[00:12] "digiKam 1.4.0 released..." late update anyone? [00:12] why oh why does Qt not support jfif images :O [00:13] apachelogger: maybe, like me, Qt has never heard of jfif [00:13] jfif is like cheap jpg [00:13] >cheap jpg [00:14] Why bother using it then? [00:14] actually I think the problem Qt has with the particular jfif thing I am trying to render is that it apparently is headerless [00:14] Png is superior in every aspect [00:14] Quintasan_Droid: cuase ubuntu one deploys captachas as jfif [00:14] What!? [00:14] BLASPHEMY [00:15] ubuntu-sso-client is a butterfly [00:16] a butterfly that uses gobjects for no reason at all [00:16] a butterfly that instanicfies a gui from the backend [00:16] instanicfies??? [00:16] instantiates? [00:17] jesus [00:17] time for bed [00:17] maco: yes [00:17] * apachelogger doesnt get the words no more from tiredness [00:17] sweet dreams of butterflys apachelogger [00:18] sleep well, apachelogger [00:28] anyone seen https://edge.launchpad.net/~blca/+archive/published ? loads of KDE bits, might be worth asking him to get into more official packaging [00:46] dantti: packagekit finally uploaded, growl at autoconf [00:46] kpackagekit and debconf-kde too [00:47] Riddelll: nice :D hopefully I'll change it to cmake [01:03] Riddell: should I mention bringing a guardian with me in the Further information field? [01:04] Quintasan: if you would have someone with you I guess you need to say that, including whether he/she needs a bed and would be paying for it [01:05] okay [01:06] hi [01:06] Riddell: sent [01:06] patcito: hello [01:06] when I try to compile choqok I get that: http://pastie.org/1116520.txt?key=kskih4mhf4ufcxphbf5yhw [01:06] any idea why? [01:06] Quintasan: groovy [01:06] http://pastie.org/1116520.txt?key=kskih4mhf4ufcxphbf5yhw [01:06] brr [01:07] I expect package 'kwebkitpart' not found is the problem [01:07] patcito: you lack development headers for kwebkitpart [01:08] libkwebkit-dev is already the newest version. [01:08] CMake Error at /usr/share/kde4/apps/cmake/modules/FindPhonon.cmake:19 (file): [01:08] that can also be a problem [01:09] I do have libqt4-phonon-dev installed, and every package with phonon and dev in it [01:09] patcito: try apt-get build-dep choqok ? [01:09] already did that [01:09] Riddell: well, I hope for approval, the queue is getting more and more boring over the years [01:09] Time for bed I guess [01:09] Good night [01:10] patcito: install libphonon-dev [01:10] Quintasan: night [01:10] libphonon-dev is already the newest version. [02:51] grr, I'm always getting the kmix and networkmanagement icons mixed up :/ [02:51] me too [02:52] almost identical except for alignment [02:52] well, I guess both speakers and wifi radio emit waves :P [02:54] they used to be different colors, didn't they? [02:54] now all bleached out too [02:54] agreed [02:54] but I'm still fighting with kmix daily anyway [02:55] *every day* I have to reset it from 50% volume to 100% [02:58] I sorta liked the vertical bars from kde3-knetworkmanager and the gnome networkmanager gui [03:00] valorie: Why not just open a terminal and run "alsamixer" and max out everything? wouldn't that help? [03:00] I used to do that every day [03:01] kmix is just as easy, and it's right there [03:01] neither one will stick [03:01] it's a lucid thing for me, I guess [03:01] hoping Mav cures it [03:01] I haven't found anyone else complaining about it [03:04] valorie: all. well, for me, once set in alsamixer it tends to stick. hope you get it worked out. [03:04] never had the problem before lucid [03:05] upgrading to Mav on Sat. -- global jam [03:05] so we'll see then [03:06] I'm running both 4.5 on both pc an dlaptop atm. one is lucid, one MM alpha. no problems on either regarding sound. [03:06] must be a hardware thing [03:07] not up to 4.5 yet [03:07] I assume that will happen on Sat. also [03:09] is that global jam the one that Nightrose was talking about that takes place here on IRC? [03:09] if so, I plan to attend also :) [03:09] one can do it via IRC, yes [03:09] we're meeting locally [03:10] and hoping to see more of the state in IRC [03:14] i was at camp kde and getting pretty involved. but, as so often happens, life interfered for a while. hoping to get back in now. [03:15] * valorie is just getting more deeply involved [03:15] right now, writing the handbook for amarok [03:15] speaking of which [03:15] back to work [03:16] good luck :) [03:44] Riddell, NCommander: kdeedu FTBFS. Usual alignment type stuff: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/54413165/buildlog_ubuntu-maverick-armel.kdeedu_4:4.5.0b-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz [03:46] ScottK: bindings built? [04:06] um, where is the LP branch for kubuntu docs? [04:06] * valorie 's ears perk up [04:07] i don't know of such a thing [04:07] * nigelb found [04:07] https://launchpad.net/kubuntu-docs [04:07] the Amarok HB etc. are in userbase.kde.org [04:08] iiiinteresting [04:08] but my hands are full right now [04:09] did you hard disk finish copying to backup/ [04:09] oh, no [04:09] I did reformat [04:10] and supposedly partitioned [04:10] although -- doesn't look like it [04:10] gosh dang it, I meant to call my son about that [04:10] I got partitionmanager === patcito_ is now known as patcito [04:11] and it said it created a partition, but it doesn't look like my lappy HD [04:11] in the little image [04:11] so [04:11] mystified [04:11] if it had to be mounted to be partitioned, you would think it would ask me to do that right? [04:11] yeah [04:12] but it shouldn't be mounted for partition btw [04:12] k [04:12] I'll probably start it backing up before I go to bed tonight [04:12] so it can work while I sleep [04:12] :) [04:12] will take awhile [04:13] and I need to work now [05:13] NCommander: It did. kdeedu, not so much. [05:15] ScottK: ../../../rocs/src/Core/node.cpp:210: error: prototype for 'void Node::setWidth(qreal)' does not match any in class 'Node' [05:15] ../../../rocs/src/Core/node.h:88: error: candidate is: void Node::setWidth(double) [05:15] ScottK: it doesn't seem that hard to fix [05:15] NCommander: For you. === _LibertyZero is now known as LibertyZero === freeflyi1g is now known as freeflying [08:57] good morning kubuntu [08:58] good morning harald [09:06] Good morning [09:16] http://aplg.kollide.net/images/osiris/001.png <--- [09:16] ha! [09:16] ha!!!! [09:17] LOL [09:19] you must be doing something really nasty to ubuntu-sso [09:43] Riddell, apachelogger: from overnight backscroll, I'm apparently enabling images for kubuntu-mobile. This doesn't happen to be something I'm authorised to do :) Would one of you mind merging/uploading https://code.launchpad.net/~persia/livecd-rootfs/kubuntu-mobile? [09:44] * apachelogger is hacking [09:44] Riddell: btw, that gnome theming issue with kolourpaint4 does not have nothing to do with kolourpaint [09:44] I am getting this every 5 minute or so [09:45] No rush :) I just didn't want anyone blocking waiting on me for something I can't do. [09:45] running quassel, creator, chrome, konsole, qdbusviewer [09:45] apachelogger: I expected so [09:45] persia: let me look [09:46] Riddell, Thanks. I'm told this was the only non-cdimage bit undone (and have cdimage people prepared to act once this is done) [09:46] persia: you're not a core-dev? [09:47] I'm not. I'll likely apply sometime soonish, but I need to actually do a healthy chunk of work in main first (probably target some of the relatively orphaned merges for natty) [09:48] I'm sure editing livecd-rootfs counts towards your application :) [09:49] Certainly, and I've been hitting it most cycles since Jaunty, but I have fairly high criteria before I'd approve a core-dev, and don't currently meet them. [09:52] persia: merged [09:52] * Riddell tries to remember how that gets synced to the server [09:53] It's not synchronised with the UDD stuff. You merge lp:livecd-rootfs, and upload, and it auto-updates lp:ubuntu/livecd-rootfs (or at least the branches weren't compatible yesterday, when I checked [09:54] And thanks! [09:55] but somehow it must get onto the CD builders [09:55] maybe that just happens by magic [09:55] Oh, yeah, there's a cronjob that pulls it daily. [09:55] And lamont kicks it when it breaks. [09:56] lamont == magic [09:56] * persia forgets what time [09:56] Oh, right. magic then :) [09:58] persia: so who are the magical cdimage people who are not prepared to act? [09:58] not? [09:59] s/not/now/ [09:59] I believe NCommander has a branch ready that enables some images, but he's busy at the moment digging through some FTBFS. If that doesn't change by timezone switch, I'm planning to pass the patch to ogra. [10:00] Riddell: persia: I'll make the changes to cdimage itself, but I can't roll livecd-rootfs changes as I'm not a core-dev [10:00] NCommander, Riddell just merged/uploaded that. [10:02] persia: Riddell: Ah. then we need to wait for the livecd-rootfs crontab updates livecd-rootfs in the image builders chroot [10:02] Precisely. [10:06] I'll just have to be patient then :) [10:07] Well, if you're bored and want to do it in advance, that works too, but I think too many people will get error notifications. [10:08] apachelogger: cannot you reproduce kolourpaint4-gnome issue? I saw your message ~30 minutes ago [10:09] apachelogger: he says he can [10:09] ari-tczew: rather [10:12] Riddell: so, yes or not? (my english is not always perfect) [10:12] ari-tczew: he can reproduce it yes [10:12] Riddell: aaaa nice! [10:12] NCommander: I had a shot at the kdeedu build failure, put it into PPA, not sure I got it right though [10:18] Riddell: does it build? [10:19] bah [10:19] good morning [10:21] persia: have a spare minute [10:21] ? [10:23] Quintasan, I'll dig one up :) What's up? [10:25] persia: well i wanted to order something from yahoo.jp but that dude wont ship anywhere outside Japan [10:26] So you want me to beat Hunter over the head with a stick, or receive it on your behalf? [10:27] persia: well, first i wanted to know the postal fee to Poland [10:27] No idea. I know shipping to Germany is pricey, but acceptable. I presume Poland it a bit more (just because there's less traffic) [10:28] the cd is 1000 yen, is shipping to germany more expensive than 2000 yen [10:28] ? [10:29] Dunno off hand. The local CD shipping expert ought be around within a couple hours, and I'll get a range for some shipments to Europe. Rough guess would be in the 1-2 thousand range. [10:36] NCommander: on i386 yes but I don't have arm to test on [10:36] Riddell: where's the package, I'll copy it into an ARM PPA for a testbuild. [10:37] NCommander: I already uploaded it to the ARM PPA [10:38] Riddell: ah. If it builds, ship it ;-) [10:39] * NCommander ducks [10:46] the seven drunken nights [10:46] * apachelogger sings === yofel_ is now known as yofel [10:48] Riddell: I'm extremely bandwidth strapped. I think your best bet is to upload if it doesn't regress on x86. If you post your diff, I'll review [10:48] apachelogger: its not night yet mate... [10:49] I need to generate a build log for kTorrent 4.0.2, I'm not exactly sure what it should look like, or how I generate it. I guess it's not just the output of cmake and make? [10:49] For backports, that is. [10:55] ghostcube: you're on lucid? [10:55] not ghostcube [10:55] glaucous: you're on lucid? [10:55] Riddell: Yes [10:55] apachelogger, JontheEchidna: y'know when we replaced update-notifier-kde? did we remember to replace the devel dist upgrade option? [10:56] glaucous: do you know how to download the karmic package? [10:57] Riddell: I've not heard of it, so no. Might add that I'm using KDE 4.5. [10:57] glaucous: http://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libktorrent [10:58] click on maverick version to get to https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libktorrent/1.0.2-1 [10:58] under downloads, grab those three files into a new directory [10:58] in that directory run dpkg-source -x *dsc to extract it [10:58] cd libktorrent- [10:58] debuild [10:58] you'll need to apt-get install devscripts first I expeect [11:00] Ah, thanks. Just need to uninstall the current one I built [11:08] Hey guys :) [11:09] can someone tell me what kubuntu devs are using for developing stuff? I already know kdevelop, plasmate, qtcreator. Anything else? :) [11:09] emacs, kate [11:11] * persia knows of a nano user in kubuntu-devel, and suspects some vim folk [11:11] ok, thank you :) [11:19] Riddell: Hm, well the debuild failed after a while. (Had to install libboost-dev and doxygen) Are there any other packages I might need for debuild? [11:20] glaucous: pastebin the error message [11:20] Aye [11:20] Riddell: http://pastebin.org/775306 [11:21] glaucous: hmm, symbols stuff [11:21] glaucous: try rm debian/libktorrent2.symbols [11:21] debuild -nc [11:23] Right, building [11:24] Riddell: Error, something about secret key. http://pastebin.org/775343 [11:29] jussi: oh, my you bun too was so dark I thought it was night [11:29] apachelogger: :D [11:29] Riddell: that is in do-dist-upgrade or whatever that script is called [11:30] glaucous: good that means its completed [11:31] glaucous: now dpkg --install the .deb files it made [11:31] glaucous: and do the same thing for ktorrent itself [11:33] I propose that ubuntu-sso-client-kde should advertise ktouch [11:34] like that http://aplg.kollide.net/images/osiris/002.png [11:35] Riddell: Alright [11:36] Riddell: Should I use debuild -ns directly this time? Or debuild, then bebuild -ns if needed? [11:40] glaucous: debuild to build the whole thing [11:40] debuild -nc continues a build without having to do the whole thing, use it if you get a build failure which you then fix [11:40] Riddell: Ah I see [11:41] I'm just curious how this whole thing works. Maverick is things which are in active development, so what I'm doing with those files is just testing to see if they work correctly on Kubuntu? [11:44] apachelogger: I see you're ahead of me with bug 611760 [11:44] Launchpad bug 611760 in packagekit (Ubuntu Lucid) "invalid values for distro upgrades" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/611760 [11:46] Riddell: I very much think the metarelease patch should be added to update-manager since it moves pre-release upgrade testing a lot closer to what it will look like after release [11:52] Riddell: Build and install was successful, however it seems like all plugins (which were available when I built 4.0.2 from their site) are missing. The program is downloading and working though. [11:54] glaucous: quit ktorrent, run kbuildsycoca and run ktorrent again, see if that helps plugins [11:56] Riddell: Hm, what did that do? It fixed it [11:56] apachelogger: best talk to mvo about that? [11:56] Riddell: Okay well it's working perfectly, now exactly what files should I upload when sending bug report? [11:56] Riddell: yeah, but I am hacking :P [12:06] http://aplg.kollide.net/images/osiris/003.png [12:08] glaucous: the .build files need attached [12:08] glaucous: and say that the .symbols file isn't valid for lucid so that needs fixed or removed for the backport [12:09] Riddell: Aye. What would be a appropriate title for this? Better follow a valid pattern from the beginning :) [12:10] glaucous: build log for on lucid [12:10] Riddell: Would you like libktorrent and ktorrent on different reports? [12:10] glaucous: yes I think there's already two separate bugs for them [12:10] Would make sense [12:10] (mention the libktorrent bug number in the ktorrent bug) [12:12] Riddell: Already? Should I write in an existing bug report, or add a new one? [12:15] glaucous: didn't you file one already? [12:15] Riddell: Not yet [12:16] glaucous: oh go ahead and do so then [12:16] launchpad.net/lucid-backports [12:16] Riddell: Yup thanks [12:24] Riddell: There.. both up [12:24] glaucous: bug numbers? [12:24] Riddell: #624588 and #624590 [12:25] bug 624588 and bug 624590 [12:25] Launchpad bug 624588 in lucid-backports "build log for libktorrent 1.0.2 on lucid" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/624588 [12:25] Launchpad bug 624590 in lucid-backports "build log for ktorrent 4.0.2 on lucid" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/624590 [12:25] say it like that for ubottu happyness :) [12:25] Riddell: Oh okay [12:29] Riddell: Great, now I (hopefully) know how to submit more reports to backports if any other software comes to mind [12:31] glaucous: nothing to stop you now :) [12:31] Riddell: Yah! Thanks for the help :) [12:36] waa http://muse.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/lucid-to-maveric-dist-upgrade-error.text [12:44] * apachelogger is not sure that a kassistantdialog is suited for ubuntu-sso-client :S [12:44] Riddell: with a lanugage with proper type system this would not have happened :P [12:45] apachelogger: fallen out of love with ruby have we? :) [12:46] Riddell: ruby has a proper type system [12:46] just different [12:46] in ruby you act upon available functions, not particular type [12:47] which in itelf makes much more sense since I do not care if I have a QString or a KString as long as both have a isEmpty() function I will use in my method foobar(str) [12:48] the problem is that those rails users do not know about that and even if they did they would not use it, so ruby is practically rendered as incapable as python thanks to the rails people :P [12:50] ohhhh [12:50] * apachelogger did not know that kpagedialog supports subpages [12:51] why did no one tell me? [12:51] * apachelogger blames jussi [12:51] * apachelogger likes this way better [12:51] It wasnt me! I swear... I blame... Riddell [12:53] and there is a bug! [12:53] * apachelogger blames Quintasan for bugs [12:58] who broke the kubuntu-desktop package?! [12:58] * apachelogger pointes at ScottK [13:01] * apachelogger whines about his broken next button [13:03] so [13:03] I need a GUI that allows both registration with Ubuntu One *as well as* login [13:03] option a) tabs: http://aplg.kollide.net/images/osiris/004.png [13:03] option b) list: http://aplg.kollide.net/images/osiris/005.png [13:04] option c) tree list: http://aplg.kollide.net/images/osiris/006.png [13:04] option d) widget with button somewhere saying "Already have an account - let me login": http://aplg.kollide.net/images/osiris/002.png [13:04] the GTK UI uses option d [13:04] I do not like c and d [13:05] and quite frankly I do not find a or b very compelling either ... hence option e) have the first page of the dialog show to large buttons one for login and one for register, with nice icon and such [13:05] opionions anyone? [13:05] pretty plz [13:06] * apachelogger pokes jussi and Riddell and Nightrose and Mamarok and people :) [13:06] * persia likes 004.png [13:07] with a vs. b I would also go for a (that is the one with the bug I was whining about though ;)) [13:07] Right :( [13:10] 004 [13:10] Suddenly that becomes an important bug :) [13:11] * Nightrose vanishes again for some house cleaning [13:11] * apachelogger sneezes [13:11] quite dusty :P [13:12] persia: should not be terribly difficult to fix, seems some model query is bogus with regards to subpages [13:14] Oh, good. [13:19] apachelogger: I like d... [13:19] apachelogger: failing d, then b [13:20] with icons btw: http://aplg.kollide.net/images/osiris/007.png http://aplg.kollide.net/images/osiris/008.png [13:21] definately the first one [13:21] jussi, Why d) over a)? To me the tab implies that the user will have to fill out a separate set of details, whereas a button doesn't. [13:24] persia: people are very used to clicking an "already have an account" - it exists in many applications. [13:25] Fair. I think it's bad in all of them, but consistency has value. [13:25] I think its fairly normal, "web" approch, clicking a link takes you to a new page. [13:26] If you do it similar to skype for instance, its just a little link. [13:26] rather than a button [13:28] persia, jussi: the fact that other apps do it does not mean that it makes sense and implementing something that does not make sense for the sake of fitting in with broken apps is simply wrong [13:28] IMHO [13:28] apachelogger: jes, but I still think it makes sense, click a button/link takes you to the next/new thing [13:30] jussi: in the web, on the desktop clicking a link opens a browser [13:34] Hey guys [13:34] apachelogger: I prefer d) because it means a more "wizard-like" sequential use [13:34] apachelogger: the other ones look too similar to configuration dialogs imho [13:34] i recorded some screencast on maveric using recordmydesktop, but on lucid they look broken [13:34] i heard that on lucid there's a problem with recordmydesktop [13:35] +1 for d), same reasons as agateau [13:35] is there a way to fix it? [13:36] agateau: it is not really sequential, registration and login are equal paths towards login state [13:36] apachelogger: oh I see [13:37] apachelogger: this dialog is only shown at setup time, right? [13:37] yep [13:38] and since the paths are equal I was more thinking towards having a selection dialog, asking the user if he already has an Ubuntu One account or not and then proceed to the actual page [13:38] apachelogger: I would do something similar to what web sites do: prompt for connect info first, with a button to create the account [13:38] I am afraid going right away to the registration seems a bit out of context [13:39] agateau: that could work [13:39] apachelogger: this is what skype does iirc [13:40] true [13:40] also the login page would be rather empty otherwise anyway [13:40] * apachelogger tries that [13:45] Sime: waa, marble.so has suddenly decided to install to /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/PyKDE4/ instead of dist-packages, why would it do that? [13:47] hey guys, what do you want the filename of the Kubuntu Mobile live images to be. it will come out mavierck-desktop-arch right now, but I can change that if need be [13:48] * persia would think maverick-mobile-arch for lives [13:48] yes [14:05] What would you guys think of making a dpkg trigger on files being installed in /usr/share/applications/kde4/ and /usr/share/kde4/services/, so that it would trigger a kbuildsycoca4 run? Perhaps make the trigger + postinst file for the libkdecore5 package [14:06] Otherwise new apps wont' show up until after a logout/login for most users [14:06] wha? [14:07] for one triggers would run as root which would not help with the problem you described [14:07] gah, same problem as langpacks in that regard :/ [14:07] and for another the argument is wrong sicne kbuildsycoca4 gets triggered automatically [14:07] if the auto trigger is not working then something is broken and that should be fixed [14:07] doesn't in my experience [14:07] delay between app installation and appearing in the sycoca should be no more than 1 minute [14:11] hmm, the menu updated by kbuildsycoca never ran [14:11] kbuildsycoca4 can be unreliable in that regard as glaucous found earlier [14:12] might be inotify issues [14:12] JontheEchidna: thre options come to mind with triggers: a) kbuildsycoca has already the ability to create a global sycoca but AFAIK that only gets *cloned* for new users, if that were to be changed to an on-the-fly fallback it could be updated using a trigger and help with the delay b) sycoca could be hooked up with the various gnome/fdo cache thingies that support global caches and actually have triggers already 3) come up with a system [14:12] (dbus call?) to all running kdeds to trigger a refresh [14:12] of which ought to be upstreamable i suppose [14:12] *all of which [14:14] Sime: well overridden with -DPYTHON_SITE_PACKAGES_INSTALL_DIR:PATH=/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages [14:15] Hey guys [14:15] where can i fing the new logo in svg? [14:15] KubuntuArtwork on wiki [14:15] brrr [14:15] gnome is silly [14:15] Thanks :) [14:15] my rhythmbox died like half an hour ago [14:15] I cannot force quit it [14:16] with kwin you get that "do you wanna kill it dead" qustion if a window does not react in gnome you get nothing [14:16] also it does not just kill it or anything [14:16] maybe the window manager is going down with rhytmbox *shrug* [14:17] I think metacity has that but maybe compiz doesn't [14:17] very odd I must say [14:17] Riddell: is metacity default on ubuntu? [14:17] if so then the capability seems broken [14:17] * apachelogger issues a killall [14:23] apachelogger: no compiz is I believe [14:23] ok [14:25] metacity is the default fallback if the user selects no desktop effects, or the system detects insufficient GL acceleration. === rdieter_ is now known as rdieter === rdieter is now known as rdieter_ === rdieter_ is now known as rdieter [14:32] persia, agateau, jussi: http://aplg.kollide.net/images/osiris/009.png [14:32] like skype inspired that is ;) [14:33] hehe :) [14:33] apachelogger: I like it. [14:34] apachelogger: if the window is always shown this large, then maybe you can use classic labels instead of click texts? [14:34] * persia doesn't generally assume underlined bits in non-browsers are clickable links, but isn't an expert at what those who haven't spent their lives in front of computers do with them. [14:35] agateau: yeah, I need to play a bit with that, in fact it is only that big because later on it will embed a pretty wide picture [14:35] apachelogger: ah ok, so click texts probably makes sense [14:35] persia: I think blue text with underline is pretty much the regular definition of a link ^^ [14:36] not sure I would put "Don't have an account yet?" between the fields... perhaps below them, in front of "Forgot your password?" [14:36] apachelogger, For browsers, yeah :) [14:39] persia: GNOME is breaking up the desktop and makes it a browser anyway, so in the long run that means the same ;) [14:39] And you think that's a good example to follow? [14:39] I did not say that :P [14:40] superfly: I am afraid that makes it look very "blockish" [14:41] apachelogger: perhaps... I just feel that the link is in the wrong place, it distracts the user from typing in their password [14:43] superfly: hm, that is true, then again with apachelogger strings you better watch that you enter the right data or you will start crying because the application shouts at you :P [14:43] * apachelogger adds a todo item to reconsider placement [14:43] I'm running in to bug 606302 daily :( [14:43] Launchpad bug 606302 in libdbusmenu-qt (Ubuntu) "Global menu related crash in Kate after closing documents" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/606302 [14:43] haha, is that so? [14:44] either that or the app get suicidal [14:44] ubuntone-kde's statusnotifier went suicidal [14:44] poor thing [14:44] never really died though [14:44] sometimes it ate a lot though ;) [14:45] folks.. I need some material for Saturday [14:45] what is on saturday? [14:45] :O [14:46] if there are any area of bugs that need some care, or somethin that need packaging.. just tell me [14:46] apachelogger: Global Jam [14:46] oh [14:46] kdepim :P [14:46] I have already noted iso testing [14:46] txwikinger: that's a good idea [14:46]