[00:25] <glaucous> Is there a kTorrent 4.0.2 ppa available?
[00:27] <Riddell> https://edge.launchpad.net/~blca/+archive/published seems to have it (entirely unofficial and untested by anyone, could be a virus for all I know)
[00:36] <glaucous> Riddell: Problem with all those ppas are that they include so much more updates. Is there a way to filter out some updates?
[00:42] <Riddell> glaucous: not easily
[00:43] <glaucous> Riddelll: Alright, no worries. I'll wait another week or two and see if it comes up on backports
[00:44] <Riddell> glaucous: that won't happen of it's own doing, if you want it to get into backports you should probably start the process yourself
[00:45] <glaucous> Riddelll: How would I do it?
[00:45] <glaucous> I mean there's no problem with the compiling itself
[00:45] <Riddell> glaucous: file a bug on launchpad.net/lucid-backports
[00:45] <glaucous> okay
[00:45] <Riddell> compile libktorrent and ktorrent on lucid
[00:45] <Riddell> compile the packages that is
[00:46] <Riddell> add the logs from the build on the bug report
[00:46] <Riddell> confirm that it runs without problems
[00:46] <Riddell> then poke us in #kubuntu-devel to get it into backports
[00:47] <glaucous> Riddelll: Okay great, I'll do that tomorrow
[00:47] <Riddell> thanks glaucous, ask on #k-d if you get stuck
[00:47] <glaucous> Riddell: I will, thanks
[01:54] <quietone> can't boot fresh install.  syslog shows "X server died during startup"  what can I do?
[02:10] <look> how do i install chrome on Kubuntu?
[02:11] <James147> look: chromium is in the repos under chromium-browser  (its the unbranded version)
[02:12] <look> James147, thanks man saved again
[02:37]  * quietone is sad that kubuntu won't play with me
[02:43] <Kage> I have a .ovpn config file for connecting to a OpenVPN server... how do I give KNetworkManager the info in this file so it works?
[03:02] <DT`> how does one stream with amarok? using version 1.4
[03:05] <mcurran> Is it possible to set the root/directory path for a folder in KDE3, and also maybe the view preferences for that folder only, not all.
[03:08] <DT`> ok...nvm. on my question
[03:22] <DeliriumTremens> how the hell do I get the icon back on my taskbar for switching between desktops?
[03:23] <James147> DeliriumTremens: the pager? Right click > add widgets > look for "Pager" > drag it back
[03:24] <DeliriumTremens> ah
[03:24] <DeliriumTremens> danke
[03:24] <DeliriumTremens> now my next gripe...each time i add a widget, the clock snaps to the left and i have to remove and readd it
[03:24] <DeliriumTremens> to get it on the right side
[03:26] <DT`> ok...what would i use to stream to shoutcast?
[03:26] <James147> DeliriumTremens: hmm... havent see the widgets jump around before... but them getting stuck on the left of the panel is known... best thing to move it is to move another widget to the left of it
[03:26] <DeliriumTremens> hmm
[03:27] <DeliriumTremens> yeah, i cant get the clock on the right side of the taskbar
[03:27] <DeliriumTremens> it just automatically goes back over to the left
[03:27] <James147> DeliriumTremens: move another widget tothe left of it
[03:27] <gabriela> hola hola
[03:27] <gabriela> alguien habla español?
[03:27] <DeliriumTremens> i've done that
[03:27] <DeliriumTremens> and it just sits on the right of that widget
[03:27] <DeliriumTremens> like all widgets will only go to the left
[03:28] <DT`> !es | gabriela
[03:28] <DeliriumTremens> even if i don't have it set to left orientation
[03:29] <DeliriumTremens> i can put a big spacer there...
[03:36] <dequire_> DeliriumTremens: Or you could delete the panel altogether and re-build it. I've done that in the past.
[03:43] <elslunko> Using the default Kubuntu at the moment, what do you guys use to import photos?
[03:56] <roky> So, I just wanted to say, I greatly appreciate Kubuntu and it's release. I've just recently moved to kde, and tried the supposed "kde" distro OpenSuse, and honestly, it's not as good as Kubuntu from my experience. So, thanks guys.
[04:07] <jake__> alright, here's a fun one.  For some reason when I minimize an application it disappears. it's open but it doesnt go to the task bar
[04:08] <jake__> any ideas?
[04:10] <DeliriumTremens> ah
[04:10] <DeliriumTremens> nm
[04:10] <DeliriumTremens> i got it
[04:19] <look> im trying to change the sound my computer makes when it goes into the screen saver, im in 'notifications' and i see nothing on the kde screen saver...any ideas?
[04:31] <look> How would i change the sound that plays when my screen saver activates...
[04:50] <Asinine> <3 ubuntu
[04:56] <Daskreech> !webkit
[04:56] <Daskreech> Bleah :)
[04:57] <Daskreech> Hi all. I heard there was a Webkit Kpart for 10.04 is it in the standard repos?
[05:01] <Daskreech> Also has anyone used the USB install for Kubuntu for any period of time?
[05:01] <Daskreech> I find it quite inconsistent
[05:04] <Daskreech> !find ichthux
[05:04] <Daskreech> Hmm cool
[05:14] <illunatic> is there a faster way to get to get packages for version upgrades? perhaps bittorrent?
[05:15] <Daskreech> illunatic: What do you mean/
[05:15] <Daskreech> ?
[05:20] <illunatic> Daskreech: i am upgrading to version 9.10 from 8.something and it's 4 hours to get new packages at 60-80 KB/s
[05:21] <illunatic> and i will need to do it again when it is does
[05:22] <illunatic> i'm just wondering if there is any alternative method to acquiring these packages
[05:23] <Daskreech> CD?
[05:23] <illunatic> i have another kubuntu partition on this drive that is up to date. is there a way to create a local repository (or whatever) based on that?
[05:23] <illunatic> yeah i have a Kubuntu 8.10 DVD that i installed with
[05:23] <Daskreech> The alternative CD will have your core packages that you need for that upgrade
[05:24] <illunatic> http://www.thelinuxstore.org/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=41_54&products_id=1822 is this what you mean?
[05:25] <illunatic> good deal. simple solution. i'll be sure to grab one for future installations
[05:27] <illunatic> oh never mind. that isn't what i thought it is.
[05:28] <Daskreech> illunatic: Kinda
[05:29] <illunatic> wooh hit a big 100 kB/s for a second
[05:29] <illunatic> haha
[05:30] <illunatic> anybody no of a mirror or anything I could DL packages from faster? or is that not recommended for security/quality assurance?
[05:30] <illunatic> know*
[05:32] <Daskreech> illunatic: where are you?
[05:32] <illunatic> near sanf rancisco
[05:33] <illunatic> my irc client is in florida :P
[05:33] <Daskreech> :-)
[05:36] <illunatic> as soon as this gets shipped to me, 11.x will be available >_< http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=627
[05:36] <illunatic> heh
[06:04] <Daskreech> illunatic: You can copy the .debs over from the other  partition and it won't download them again
[06:05] <thermal> hello
[06:05] <Daskreech> hi
[06:06] <nbt> halo
[06:07] <nbt> i want to change my bootsplash screen but i can't install usplash for reposity there is any solution ?
[06:08] <Daskreech> nbt: hmm? are we still using usplash?
[06:09] <nbt> usplash or ksplash any of them wont's work !!!!!
[06:10] <illunatic> Daskreech: thanks
[06:12] <nbt> Daskreech: !!!!!!!!
[06:12] <Daskreech> nbt: Hmm? Which bootsplash are you refering to?
[06:13] <nbt> Daskreech: kubuntu bootsplash
[06:13] <illunatic> i got so used to using kubuntu that i had forgotten that it was on a 10GB partition with only 1 GB free. Still running smooth on that partition too
[06:14] <Daskreech> nbt: as in starting KDE not the one when starting the kernel?
[06:14] <nbt> no before starting KDE
[06:14] <Daskreech> illunatic: you are going to need a good amount of space for the upgrade
[06:15] <illunatic> yeah this install is on 136GB partition
[06:15] <Daskreech> nbt: what version of KDE?
[06:15] <illunatic> the other was just meant to test it out, but i forgot and began using it regularly until i ran out of disk space xD
[06:16] <Daskreech> :-)
[06:17] <illunatic> do you know off hand what dir i can find the .deb files in?
[06:17] <nbt> Daskreech: 4.5
[06:18]  * illunatic googles :S
[06:18] <illunatic> heh
[06:18] <DarthFrog> illunatic:  /var/cache/apt/archives
[06:20] <Daskreech> illunatic: /var/cache/apt/archives
[06:20] <illunatic> thanks!
[06:21] <illunatic> ah great success ^_^
[06:21] <Daskreech> nbt: Open system settings and click on appearance. Splash Screen should be there
[06:22] <nbt> ok i will try
[06:24] <nbt> Daskreech: in system setting we can only change the splash screen that start with KDE , not the bootsplash
[06:25] <Daskreech> nbt: I asked if it was the one when the kernel was loading :-P
[06:25] <Daskreech> You want Plymouth that's the new bootsplash
[06:25] <nbt> Daskreech: yes that's it
[06:26] <illunatic> in case anyone is interested in creating & adding local repository to source list http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3087550.0
[06:26] <Daskreech> illunatic: You can just copy them :) that's a little faster
[06:29] <nbt> Daskreech: o.O
[06:29] <Daskreech> Hmm?
[06:30] <illunatic> o rly? thanks
[06:30] <Daskreech> illunatic: as long as they are in the /var/cache/apt/archives they should be ok
[06:31] <Daskreech> You can upgrade one computer and copy all the debs to another then upgrade that one waaaaaaay fast
[06:31] <illunatic> that is just how it should be ^_^
[06:33] <nbt> Daskreech: so , you habe any idea Brother ?
[06:36] <Daskreech> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/quick-tipplymouth-themes-in-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx.html
[06:38] <nbt> ok thanks fir the link
[06:45] <nbt> Daskreech: thats Ok Broth , Thanks :)
[08:36] <Hazamonzo> morning
[09:30] <shaky> ciao a tutti
[09:30] <shaky> per fortuna ho trovato questo chan :)  e la prima volta che entro
[09:30] <shaky> ho un problema con l aggiornamento del sistema trovo updates ma non installa nulla
[09:50] <vsr> Does anyone know the method in creating a custom live cd that I can distribute?
[10:05] <tranquilwaters> shaky: English please?
[10:06] <tranquilwaters> vsr: what do you want to customise then?
[10:06] <tranquilwaters> vsr: Is the OEM version maybe what you are looking for?
[10:43] <glaucous> How exactly should a buildlog look like (ie, how do I generate it?)? Right now I just use make | tee -i log.txt, but perhaps that's not enough?
[10:54] <illunatic> is ./kde4 system settings folder?
[10:59] <galacticaboy> can someone tell me in detail how to extract a tar.bz file
[11:03] <Torch> glaucous: a buildlog for which purpose?
[11:04] <glaucous> Torch: For the Kubuntu backports, got help at kubuntu-devel though
[12:28] <noaXess> how to get in grub2 menu before loading kubuntu? ESC won't work
[12:29] <alvin> it's shift
[12:29] <alvin> (multiple tries might be required)
[12:30] <noaXess> ok
[12:30] <noaXess> thanks... why to things change??
[12:35] <noaXess> upgraded  machine from 9.04 to 9.10 then to 10.04.1.. on 9.10 all worked fine.. on 10.04.1 no screen.. blackscrenn.. no network to login external over ssh.. :(
[12:35] <gnomefreak> try safe-mode recovery kernel
[12:36] <noaXess> gnomefreak: i do that. to get upgrades or install/fix some packages.but nothing works..
[12:37] <gnomefreak> you cant SSH from there?
[12:37] <noaXess> gnomefreak: ssh from recovery console.. yes..
[12:37] <Lazy^> Hi, which is the right place to send bug-reports about kde.4.5 ?
[12:38] <gnomefreak> i have never seen the problem you are having in kde gnome or xfce
[12:38] <gnomefreak> Lazy^: use the command ubuntu-bug packagename    replace packagename for the name of the package
[12:39] <gnomefreak> Lazy^: what is the package you are haing issues with?
[12:43] <alvin> Lazy^: File against the kubuntu-ppa project
[12:47] <Lazy^> gnomefreak: got some different kind on erros. Effects are slow (fast comp), when i lock my screen, i see only grey login screen, it accepts my pw but blind typing ect =)
[12:52] <Torch> Lazy^: packaging bugs (which are rare) go to kubuntu, software bugs (the usual case) goes to bugs.kde.org
[12:56] <noaXess> plasma-desktop missing after kubuntu upgrade to 10.04.1 ??
[13:47] <alvin> lol. If you close krita <while> saving, your picture will only be partly there. The not-yet-saved part is then invisible.
[13:48] <alvin> 'Klik hier' als ge geen HTML kunt weergeven. a) die tekst staat in HTML... b) klik?
[13:48] <alvin> wc
[13:49] <Pici> !de
[13:50] <alvin> Pici: wc = wrong chat, and that wasn't German
[13:51] <Pici> alvin: Ah, sorry.
[13:51] <alvin> np :-)
[13:51] <alvin> I should have looked first
[13:58] <dthacker> Hello!  I'm getting an error that says "Nepomuk Semantic Desktop needs the Virtuosu RDF Server to store its data"  Querying KPackagekit for "Virtuoso" returns nothing.   Ideas?
[14:05] <dthacker> sorry, had a freeze up and had to reboot.  Any reply to my earlier message?
[14:10] <glaucous> Trying to learn how to use Kdevelop 4 (used Codeblocks). How do I add a include path? Need to include <project directory>/include
[15:32] <ubuntu> hello
[15:36] <Daskreech> How is everyone?
[15:37] <Daskreech> hi gnomefreak  ;)
[15:38] <gnomefreak> hi Daskreech
[15:38] <Daskreech> How are you?
[15:39] <gnomefreak> Daskreech: fine just having issues with thunderbird. how about you?
[15:39] <ncfi1013> hi everybody. can anybody tell the simplest way possible to convert video_ts files to a .iso image in karmic?
[15:39] <Daskreech> Not too bad
[15:39] <Daskreech> Hating on the USB live image
[15:40] <Daskreech> ncfi1013: Tried k9copy?
[15:41] <ncfi1013> daskreech where can i obtain that?
[15:41] <Daskreech> !info k9copy
[15:42] <Daskreech> ncfi1013: There you go
[15:42] <Daskreech> Hmm
[15:43] <ncfi1013> kpackagekit i assume daskreech?
[15:43] <Daskreech> Kopete won't work. It starts. Says that it logs into accounts but then doesn't
[15:43] <Daskreech> ncfi1013: Sure if you'd like. Just make sure you have universe checked off
[15:44] <Daskreech> Ah never mind. Fixed Kopete
[15:44] <ncfi1013> daskreech ???
[15:44] <Daskreech> !universe
[15:45] <Daskreech> ncfi1013: Go into settings and setup your sources. There will be a checkbox that says universe. Make sure that's selected. Should about triple the number of programs you can install
[15:46] <illunatic> i replaced my /etc with one from another installation and now i can't restore the backup due to "no sudoers in /etc/sudoers"
[15:46] <DarthFrog> ncfi1013: You'll probably have better luck with k3b than k9copy.  The two will work together but k3b is for making new DVD projects.  K9copy is more for copying DVDs.
[15:47] <Daskreech> illunatic: ha ha :)
[15:47] <illunatic> user permission is 1000 should be 0
[15:47] <illunatic> lol
[15:47] <illunatic> but i can't chown (assuming that's what i need to do)
[15:47] <illunatic> due to can not sudo haha
[15:47] <Daskreech> illunatic: Sounds like a missing p
[15:47] <illunatic> p?
[15:47] <Daskreech> DarthFrog: Never thought of that
[15:48] <Daskreech> illunatic: did you copy it with a p?
[15:48] <DarthFrog> illunatic: You've shot yourself in the foot. :-)  You'll have to boot from a LiveCD and edit the sudoers file.
[15:48] <illunatic> oh ok
[15:48] <Daskreech> DarthFrog: or turn on single user mode in grub
[15:48] <DarthFrog> That too. :-)
[15:48] <Daskreech> Linux isn't that fragile
[15:48] <illunatic> well if i start from the live cd i can just restore the /etc right?
[15:48] <Daskreech> illunatic: take a look at man:/cp
[15:48] <DarthFrog> illunatic: No.
[15:48] <Daskreech> you want the p option
[15:49] <ncfi1013> daskreech you seem to be knowledgable. do you know by chance if lucid has all the bugs fixed yet regarding the plasma desktop? it is that reason that i havent upgraded to lucid yet. any info you can provide will be much appreciated.
[15:49] <Daskreech> ncfi1013: Nothing has all the bugs fixed. So safely no it does not
[15:49] <DarthFrog> ncfi1013: No significan piece of software is ever bug-free.  Ever.  Except vi. :-)
[15:49] <illunatic> ok i had used rsync via luckybackup to create backup
[15:50] <ncfi1013> i have k3b but havent quite figured out how to do what im asking
[15:50] <Daskreech> unless you have intel drivers (I understand) or some Xsetups 4.4.5 is quite stable. You can probably do a test install or upgrade if you like
[15:50] <DarthFrog> ncfi1013: This is a RTFM moment. :-)
[15:51] <Daskreech> DarthFrog: I don't know mv has been pretty bug free for me for a while
[15:51] <illunatic> actually i had errors in luckybackup that it failed to preserve ownership
[15:51] <DarthFrog> ncfi1013: In a nutshell, create a new video project, then drag 'n drop your video_ts directory on it.
[15:51] <Daskreech> a little funniness moving a soft link through a hard link but pretty much ok
[15:51] <ncfi1013> do you feel lucid is safe for the average user that doesnt worry about the ins and outs of command line interface?
[15:52] <ncfi1013> and what is an rtfm moment?
[15:52] <DarthFrog> Daskreech: As you well know, that simply means you haven't yet encountered one that affects you.
[15:52] <Daskreech> ncfi1013: Read the Friendly Manual
[15:52] <DarthFrog> !RTFM
[15:52] <DarthFrog> Hmm.  My bad.
[15:53] <ncfi1013> so you guys are being discriminating based on my inexperience? lol
[15:53] <Daskreech> ncfi1013: We are acting like it :)
[15:53] <DarthFrog> ncfi1013: K3b is actually fairly easy to use, once you've sorted it out.
[15:53] <ncfi1013> but its ok i welcome it. it is the only way i will learn.
[15:54] <Daskreech> illunatic: The errors are the problem
[15:54] <ncfi1013> i do really appreciate you help. thank you very much.
[15:54] <Daskreech> you shouldn't have continued until that was sorted out. etc more so than any other directory is sensitive to that
[15:55] <Daskreech> ncfi1013: Imagine you are burning something to a CD it works just like that. Just burn to an ISO instead
[15:55] <DarthFrog> ncfi1013: Daskreech is correct in that is one meaning of RTFM.  Let's just say that the "F" is usually ... not so friendly. :-)
[15:56] <Daskreech> DarthFrog: Here if you have uttered it and not been banned. it better be friendly
[15:57] <ncfi1013> i already know how to burn isos. i just click once and k3b opens. what i dont know is how to convert video_ts to iso. after i figure that out, im home free.
[15:58] <Belgy> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=493603
[15:58] <DarthFrog> Daskreech: I certainly prefer to keep the channel family-safe. :-)
[15:59] <DarthFrog> ncfi1013: Use keb to create a new project.
[15:59] <ncfi1013> "universe": community-maintained open source software? if that is what you were talking about, daskreech, then it is already checked.
[15:59] <Belgy> Daskreech : the link i posted should interest you. Anyway, a simple google search do the trick...
[15:59] <DarthFrog> ncfi1013: Then drag 'n drop your video_ts directory into that new project.  Then either make it into an iso or burn it to DVD.
[15:59] <Daskreech> ncfi1013: Burn a DVD instead
[16:00] <Daskreech> ncfi1013: ok great :)
[16:00] <Daskreech> Belgy: Do you mean ncfi1013 ?
[16:00] <Belgy> yup, read too quickly, sry
[16:04] <rackIT> weather plasmoid in lucid is always missing a graphic. Any way for me to fix this?
[16:05] <Daskreech> rackIT: Which graphic? maybe it's actually missing?
[16:06] <rackIT> Daskreech: how's things in sunny Jamaica?
[16:07] <rackIT> Daskreech: in hardy, it was the applet icon itself. In Lucid, it's just a question mark but when I click to look at the forecast, 6 of seven days have icons. it's appears to be random day and doesn't seem to be a specific weather condition.
[16:08] <Daskreech> rackIT: (edited for children, priests and passing parrots) hot!!!
[16:08] <DarthFrog> Parrrots?  Jamaica has parrots?  Cool!
[16:09] <Daskreech> hi sheytan
[16:09] <sheytan> Daskreech hi :)
[16:10] <Daskreech> sheytan: you should get a page of needed to be done manuals
[16:10] <sheytan> Daskreech it's on my blog :)
[16:10] <rackIT> Daskreech: Go figure! we were pretty warm up here in Wisconsin a few weks ago but it's like 16 today... nie and cool.
[16:10] <Daskreech> that way you can check them off as well as have random people turn up and see them
[16:11] <Daskreech> rackIT: opposite here we were getting buckets of rain every day and now I can take an egg out the fridge precooked
[16:11] <sheytan> The list is on my blog and one is already check. One polish guy is already working on another one :)
[16:11] <Daskreech> which is handy but what's good for the goose also gets to my gander
[16:11] <Daskreech> nixternal: Dude!!
[16:11] <rackIT> Daskreech: hardboiled or fried?
[16:11] <ikonia> guys you may find this topic better in #ubuntu-offtopic or #kubuntu-offtopic
[16:12] <Daskreech> rackIT: depends on where it was in the fridge :)
[16:12] <rackIT> ikonia: my bad... it's good to see old friends!
[16:12] <Daskreech> Has anyone had issues with the USB live image?
[16:12] <ikonia> not a problem, just a request
[16:12] <illunatic> !livecd
[16:13] <rackIT> Daskreech: I'll talk to you.
[16:14] <illunatic> Daskreech: i'm not sure how to edit /etc/sudoers from liveCD to the partition i just messed up
[16:17] <Daskreech> rackIT: grand :)
[16:18] <Daskreech> illunatic: can you mount the partition?
[16:18] <illunatic> i'll give it a shot!
[16:19] <ubuntu> how do i check smart status in Kubuntu _
[16:19] <ubuntu> ?
[16:19] <illunatic> should be able to do it from this kubuntu install yeah?
[16:19] <ubuntu> hm could only find cd check.
[16:19] <Daskreech> ubuntu: install smartmontools
[16:19] <Daskreech> doesn't ship with them
[16:19] <ubuntu> Daskreech: how do i run them?
[16:21] <ubuntu> Daskreech: how do i run it?
[16:22] <ubuntu> btw I run from a live CD so
[16:22] <Daskreech> ubuntu: open a terminal and run smartd
[16:23] <ubuntu> Daskreech: nothing happens
[16:24] <Daskreech> ubuntu: installed smartmontools?
[16:25] <ubuntu> yeah reinstalling it now...
[16:25] <Daskreech> ubuntu: type smart and press tab twice
[16:25] <Daskreech> illunatic: you should be able to open dolphin and just click on your hard drive
[16:26] <ubuntu> gets this - smartctl     smartd       smartdimmer
[16:26] <ubuntu> but smartd does nothing.
[16:27] <Daskreech> ubuntu: that's it! smartctl
[16:27] <ubuntu> Daskreech: for some reason it does not see my hdd
[16:27] <Daskreech> smartctl --help shuld give you all you need
[16:31] <ubuntu> Daskreech: helped thanx need some help reading the smart data, VALUE, WORST, THRESH,
[16:31] <ubuntu> value is what it gets, worst does what? and threshold is what is within normal range?
[16:32] <Daskreech> http://www.linuxjournal.com/node/6983/print <0----- ubuntu
[16:35] <illunatic> alright i mounted it and copied this /etc/ over to the other partition. gonna see if i can boot into it alright now
[16:36] <Daskreech> illunatic: with the right permissions?
[16:36] <Daskreech> what's the permission on /etc/shadow on your real drive?
[16:38] <illunatic> yeah i used the p :D
[16:38] <illunatic> and guess what? i'm not on the other partition that was broken \o/
[16:39] <illunatic> thanks a lot Daskreech
[16:39] <illunatic> i also accomplished copying system settings from my old install to the new one
[16:39] <amesha> hi everyone
[16:39] <Daskreech> illunatic: what's the permissions on the shadow file?
[16:39] <Daskreech> !Hi | amesha
[16:39] <illunatic> i don't know
[16:39] <amesha> earlier today i did an automatic update of bug and security fixes, and then some things stopped working
[16:40] <amesha> i rebooted, and the system was really whack
[16:40] <amesha> okular and dolphin especially weren't working, and plasma wasn't either
[16:40] <amesha> i coul dsee some windows but i couldn't switch between them and if i minimized them they were gone
[16:40] <amesha> so i reinstalled kubuntu
[16:40] <amesha> now everything seems to be mostly working (though i haven't done updates)
[16:41] <amesha> but i must have removed the plasma taskbar while i was playing around with it, and i can't figure out how to get it back
[16:41] <amesha> anyone have any idea how i can get my plasma taskbar back?
[16:42] <Daskreech> amesha: Do you have any customizations you've done on the desktop?
[16:42] <amesha> on the desktop itself, not really
[16:42] <amesha> maybe i did some things but i don't remember and don't care to keep them
[16:43] <amesha> i tried renaming the .kde folder in my home folder but that didn't work
[16:43] <amesha> .kde4
[16:43] <Daskreech> amesha: in a terminal you do: kquitapp plasma-desktop; sleep 5; mv ~/.kde/share/config/plasma* ~; plasma-desktop
[16:44] <Daskreech> hi BluesKaj
[16:45] <BluesKaj> hi Daskreech
[16:45] <amesha> then i logout, restart X and log back in?
[16:46] <Daskreech> amesha: Nope
[16:46] <Daskreech> that should be it
[16:48] <amesha> cool, thanks a lot
[16:48] <amesha> while we're at it, do you know how i can reset my keyboard configuration
[16:49] <amesha> i was playing around with some rather unique combinations and now nothing but the basic configuration works for my US keyboard (not altgr like i used to have)
[16:50] <Daskreech> I used to but not off the top of myhead any more. Did you look in system settings?
[16:51] <amesha> yes i've looked around but i couldn't see anything
[16:51] <amesha> anyway i don't want to just edit them, that i can do by right-clicking on the little keyboard-switcher flag
[16:51] <amesha> the settings i have defined in the dialog boxes are not working, and they used to
[16:52] <amesha> even in kubuntu lucid they worked for a short time, then i guess i played around with them a little and now they don't
[16:52] <Daskreech> I think that you can look in ~/.kde/share/config to find something
[16:52] <amesha> okay
[16:53] <amesha> and where should i copy that?
[16:53] <Daskreech> it's a directory just look in there for files kbd related
[16:54] <StepNjump> Hi guys I now boot up in  I am new to linux... well, I'm very green.
[16:54] <StepNjump> I am running Kubuntu 10.04 and tonight I bash. My X is not starting. Yeterday I successfully installed the driver that allows my NVIDIA card to render beautiful FX. It was working fine then I tried to install compiz fusion but realized later it was the version for gnome, not for KDE. The command was something like:sudo apt-get -y install compiz compiz-gnome compizconfig-settings-manager compiz-fusion-plugins-extra libcompizconfig-backend-
[16:54] <StepNjump> gconf
[16:54] <FloodBotK3> StepNjump: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:55] <Daskreech> StepNjump: "for gnome" doesn't really work for things like compiz  but I understand what you mean.
[16:55] <amesha> okay, Daskreech, and what do i do when i find something?
[16:56] <StepNjump> Daskreech: do you suggest I reinstall everything?
[16:56] <StepNjump> I must have messed it up a lot
[16:56] <Daskreech> StepNjump: what is happening now?
[16:57] <StepNjump> I only boot up to a login: screen
[16:57] <StepNjump> similar to bash
[16:57] <Daskreech> StepNjump: right. did you login?
[16:57] <StepNjump> yes but I am new to linux ...
[16:59] <Daskreech> StepNjump: ok great
[16:59] <Daskreech> type sudo start kdm
[16:59] <Daskreech> lets see what happens
[17:00] <StepNjump> Ok thanks daskreech
[17:04] <Daskreech> StepNjump: works now?
[17:11] <BluesKaj> StepNjump, compiz works on kde as well as gnome , if you chose the gnome version then you essentially installed the gnome desktop as well
[17:13] <BluesKaj> StepNjump a form of comiz is already installed in the kde desktop , but it's runs desktop effects
[17:38] <vincenzo> qualcuno sa come dare il comando di spegnimento per kubuntu10.04, visto che non vuole spegnersi. grazie
[17:41] <Roey> oh hello vincenzo!  Fun to hear you speaking Italian
[17:42] <Roey> why does Italian always sound like food to me :P
[17:42] <vincenzo> si
[17:45] <BluesKaj> !it | vincenzo
[17:46] <vincenzo> grazie.
[17:46] <illunatic> !kmixer
[17:47] <illunatic> !kmix
[17:47] <BluesKaj> !alsa | illunatic
[17:48] <illunatic> arg i can't recall how to make kmix show the input volume
[17:48] <illunatic> alsa.conf should be setup alright
[17:49] <BluesKaj> illunatic, click on the speaker icon in the panel
[17:49] <illunatic> yeah i mean i don't know how to get input volume to show up there
[17:49] <illunatic> i have it working on my other kubuntu installation
[17:51] <BluesKaj> illunatic, which version , seems that lucid doesn't have it in kmix
[17:53] <illunatic> 10.4
[17:54] <illunatic> 10.04 rather
[17:54] <illunatic> i had to add a couple of lines to a config file somewhere to say =true
[17:57] <asraniel> hello. i have a problem that very often kubuntu never comes to the kdm
[17:57] <asraniel> it somehow blocks there
[17:57] <asraniel> and i have to ctrl+alt+del reboot
[17:58] <mika__> hi, i've upgraded to 10.04 from 9.10, but somewhere after the packages downloads the pc shutdown (don't know where, i was out). 10.04 is recognized, but not at the boot, where instead of kubuntu it shows "ubuntu", how can i change that ?
[17:58] <illunatic> !kdm
[17:58] <illunatic> !info kdm
[17:59] <asraniel> yeah i know what kdm is ;)
[17:59] <asraniel> but sometimes it never loads
[17:59] <Daskreech> asraniel: the bootsplash loads forever?
[17:59] <asraniel> Daskreech: exactly
[18:00] <Daskreech> asraniel: take off the splash and see what's stopping it
[18:00] <asraniel> Daskreech: on my gf's computer its actually a "distrorted screen after bootsplash" forever, but i suppose thats the same (i have the bootsplash forever)
[18:00] <asraniel> Daskreech: thats the nosplash kernel option?
[18:01] <asraniel> Daskreech: and it does not happen everytime
[18:02] <James147> mika__: where during boot dose it show "ubuntu"?
[18:05] <Daskreech> asraniel: I'm having the same issue with the USB live image
[18:05] <Daskreech>  can't get it to boot straight twice in a row
[18:05] <Daskreech> I figured it was the persistence file
[18:05] <Daskreech> I have no issues from the live CD
[18:08] <Daskreech> rackIT: welcome back
[18:08] <rackIT> thanks!
[18:08] <mika__> James147: between grub and kdm... the boot splash image
[18:08] <Roey> Daskreech:  hey!
[18:09] <Roey> long time no see
[18:09] <James147> mika__: and the system boots and runs fine?
[18:09] <mika__> James147: yep, it runs everything.... it's just that that is "broken"
[18:09] <mika__> (i've another notebook where i did the same process and it went fine..... amd64 instead of x86)
[18:10] <James147> mika__: try installing "plymouth-theme-kubuntu-logo"
[18:10] <Daskreech> hi Roey  ;)
[18:10] <mika__> James147: ok, i try, thanks
[18:11] <rackIT> looking to get ktimer to open a specified ics in lucid. Hard had a storage path option but not lucid. Anyway to pass the ics to the ktimetracker command?
[18:11] <Roey> Question:  I am using Pidgin.  When a chat window pops up and I am on a different desktop, the window that I'm on loses focus(1).  When I switch to Pidgin's chat desktop (I force all Pidgin windows to open on a specific desktop), I click on the chat window and for maybe 1/10th of a second it gets focus, then reverts.  I have to click on it many times quickly for the focus to take hold(2).  How can I fix these two issues?
[18:11] <rackIT> hardy had a storage pat...
[18:11] <Daskreech> Window manager?
[18:11] <Roey> I am using KWin under KDE 4.5 btw.
[18:12]  * rackIT migrated from hardy to lucid earlier this week
[18:34] <DarthFrog> rackIT: How'd it go?  Any snags?
[18:38] <rackIT> DarthFrog: not really. I have a seperate drive for /home, did a fresh install on the old / drive (formatted) and mounted the old /home to /home. All of my settings and data remained intact. Just some differences in how to configure some things mostly.
[18:38] <DarthFrog> Ah, I see.  You didn't do an _in situ_ upgrade.
[19:06] <wilhart> do you see my text?
[19:07] <Daskreech> wilhart: not yet
[19:07] <wilhart> ok i'm loaded with kubuntu desktop.iso now i need to set grub so it boots both from windows and linux
[19:07] <wilhart> i hvae grub2
[19:07] <wilhart> grub-mkrescue ?
[19:08] <Daskreech> !grub
[19:08] <Daskreech> wilhart: Link in there for you :)
[19:09] <wilhart> witch one ?
[19:09] <Daskreech> Lost grub after installing windows
[19:11] <wilhart> ehm
[19:11] <wilhart> pretty complex
[19:14] <_JayM> Question<< Running KDE 4.4.5 that I installed on the base ubuntu install. Decided to try it as I was getting sick of gnome. When I try to add a plasmoid to my desktop, the bar pops up above the taskbar but only partially and I can't see the bottom half of it, eg; the text below the widgets. I have tried resizing the taskbar but same thing. I have tried auto hiding the task bar but then the widget bar just sits lower and is cut off by the bottom
[19:14] <_JayM> of the screen. Anyone run into this?
[19:17] <BluesKaj> _JayM, are you trying add an icon from the kmenu ? or from the widget panel?
[19:18] <_JayM> widget panel
[19:19] <_JayM> I right click on the desktop and choose add widgets. The panel pops up but not far enough to see the whole panel. The lower half of it sits behind the taskbar.
[19:21] <_JayM> It seems to behave like that 95% of the time but occasionally it will pop up all the way.
[19:22] <BluesKaj> _JayM, click on the cashew icon in right hand corner of the bottom panel , add widgets, choose one and drag it to the desktop
[19:22] <_JayM> ok
[19:22] <_JayM> works fine... still can
[19:23] <_JayM> still can't see the text below the widgets in the widgetbar.
[19:25] <BluesKaj> after clicking on the cashew icon look in the middle of the expanded panel , you'll see a hieght option with an arrow pointing up, drag it upwards to unhide
[19:26] <_JayM> That ajusts the taskbar hieght as well so it makes thigs bigger but doesn't make the widget bar sit higher above the task bar. They both ajust at the same time.
[19:27] <BluesKaj> widget bar
[19:28] <BluesKaj> dunno what yo're trying to do then, I'm confused
[19:28] <wilhart_> how did i format quick fat32 8giga usb stick?
[19:28] <wilhart_> i just need the commands
[19:29] <_JayM> When you click on the cashew OR right click on the desktop and select "Add Widget", the widget bar pops up above the taskbar.
[19:29] <BluesKaj> wilhart_, no need to format if you're just adding stuff
[19:29] <wilhart_> BluesKaj, i'm running unetbooting
[19:29] <_JayM> When I do this, the widgetbar is partially covered on the bottom by the taskbar.
[19:29] <wilhart_> BluesKaj, need to format stick first
[19:29] <_JayM> so I can't see the text under the individual widgets listed
[19:30] <_JayM> I need to make the widget bar fully expand above the taskbar instead of partially like it is now.
[19:31] <_JayM> ajusting using the height ajustment makes both bars increase or decrease in size at the same time so therefore doesn't reveal more of what is abopve the task bar.
[19:31] <wilhart_> mkfs -t vfat /dev/sda1
[19:31] <BluesKaj> _JayM, ok sorry ,now I understand ... think you might want to check your display resolution , something's amiss
[19:32] <_JayM> its set to native 1920x1200 on a 28" hanns g lcd monitor.
[19:32] <BluesKaj> wilhart_, doesn't the unetbootin site have instructions
[19:33] <_JayM> ok, well thanks for trying BluesKaj. I appreciate your time. I'll keep googling and poking around.
[19:33] <BluesKaj> 1920x1200 hmmm, should be higher
[19:35] <_JayM> Not on this monitor. It's native factory spec res is 1920x1200. It's not the apple cinema dosplay. I WISH!
[19:36] <wilhart_> where was that grub conf located in
[19:36] <wilhart_> i need to set timer for grub2
[19:36] <BluesKaj> I'm using 1920x1080 on our 46" Plasma TV , _JayM
[19:38] <wilhart_> anyone ?
[19:38] <wilhart_> where i se grub timer to 10 seconds it's 0 now
[19:38] <BluesKaj> this lil lapptop uses 1280x800
[19:59] <yofel> wilhart: grub timeouts are set in /etc/default/grub, see
[19:59] <yofel> !grub2
[20:11] <craigwdy2k> I just installed Kubuntu 10.04 on a HP Pavilion dv6z-1100.  My machine has been having issues with Hibernate: i.e. it hangs under 10.10 Alpha 3 whereas I get corrupted video upon resuming under 10.04.  My install is fully updated.  Any advice?
[20:19] <craigwdy2k> My laptop is based on AMD/ATI 780 G North Bridge & AMD/ATI SB750 South Bridge.  I found out by googling that others have been having USB issues with the Desktop version of this North Bridge.  Maybe this recent development is related.
[20:19] <craigwdy2k> 780G*
[20:20] <gorgonzola> hello! i know that this might be an old and tired question, but is there any way to enable voice and video chat in kopete?
[20:23] <user> hello
[20:23] <robb4n> gorgonzola: I dont think so, not yet...
[20:24] <gorgonzola> robb4n: do you know where i could get more info about this? the kopete homepage is outrageously outdated
[20:25] <robb4n> gorgonzola: I dont use kopete by myself.. Just did an fast google search and look it up that way, didt find anything about video support..
[20:25] <robb4n> gorgonzola: but you can use google talk to use voice chat tho i think
[20:25] <robb4n> thru kopete
[20:26] <gorgonzola> robb4n: yes, they rolled out linux support for voice and video yesterday... i was wanted to check on the status of lopete's implementation. i found a 2008 forum post saying that i wasn't built with jingle in kubuntu...
[20:26] <gorgonzola> robb4n so i wanted to check if there was a known way to get it to work in kubuntu...
[20:28] <robb4n> gorgonzola: ah okey, didt knew that they did...
[20:28] <robb4n> something more to look up for myself then =)
[20:28] <gorgonzola> robb4n: i mean  google, for use with their webpage... let me find you the url of the announcemnet...
[20:30] <robb4n> gorgonzola: are you talkin about the google talk with gmail?
[20:30] <robb4n> i did an test call yesterday, works pretty well!
[20:31] <gorgonzola> yes, that. since they released the plugin for linux, it revived my interest in voice chat from kopete...
[20:32] <craigwdy2k> Yeah: here's the URL for it: http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/chat/thread?tid=10ffe01c3a4779f5&hl=en.
[20:32] <robb4n> oki doki
[20:44] <corigo> Hi, my Krusader is totally corrupted and crashes at launch. Can anyone help me get it back and running? KDE w/o Krusader is like Windows w/o Total Commander... useless
[20:48] <corigo> Deets: Kubuntu 10.04 with KDE 4.5.0. Have deinstalled and reinstalled via Adept (with reboot inbetween) w/o effect. Still crashes on launch. Have downloaded local files already for command line if preferred, and 2.2.0 BETA source downloaded as well, if that is my only option
[20:56] <craigwdy2k> I'm attempting to upgrade my optical drive's firmware to RPC-II using WINE.  Where exactly do self extracting .EXEs unpack to in the Linux directory hierarchy?  I looked on winehq.org & they don't even mention it anywhere...
[20:57] <jaem> craigwdy2k: Probably somewhere in ~/.wine
[20:59] <craigwdy2k> Ok: this is not looking too good: I see no traces of the C:\SwSetup\sw**** folder hierarchy that HP typically uses...
[21:02] <jaem> craigwdy2k: I haven't used those sorts of tools in some time, but don't they normally allow you to override the extraction path?
[21:04] <craigwdy2k> No.  I also installed NTFS-3G through aptitude so I can access my LaCie FireWire 80 GB NTFS formatted PC backup drive.  If I could just get KDE 4 to automount it then I could copy Universal Extractor & force decompress it that way...
[21:07] <craigwdy2k> What about winetricks: I think HP's .exe is packed with MS VB or MS Visual C++?
[21:12] <q8sp> hello
[21:14] <craigwdy2k> Hmmm...: how about 7-Zip: are there any GUI front-ends that are KDE 4 compatible available in any of the Kubuntu Repos (Official or unofficial)?
[21:14] <corigo> Pretty sure Krusader will play a gui front end if backend is installed
[21:15] <jaem> craigwdy2k: Sorry, I was away momentarily.  Do you know how to mount the hard drive manually?
[21:16] <craigwdy2k> No.
[21:19] <craigwdy2k> I admit it: I've been spoiled by using NTFS-3G with MacFUSE under 10.4.11 & 10.5.8 on my Macs.  I love how it automounts a volume instantly.  It makes my life a lot easier...
[21:21] <jaem> craigwdy2k: Well, Kubuntu should be able to as well.
[21:21] <jaem> I'm not sure why it isn't, and I don't have an NTFS volume here to check, as far as I'm aware.
[21:22] <jaem> Does it not even let you mount it through Dolphin with a password?
[21:22] <jaem> Hmm... X is being stupid - hold that thought
[21:23] <craigwdy2k> No prompt appears...  It's as if it can't see it or something...  I think this may be connected to the ACPI kernel breakage I've been experiencing...
[21:31] <craigwdy2k> X: speaking of X I just installed Google Earth via the downloadable binary & I can't get it to start.  Also Dolphin keeps crashing some of the time when I attempt to drag a folder icon from Dolphin into Konsole...
[21:43] <craigwdy2k> Krusader seems to be much more reliable too.
[22:31] <look> How do i activate my restricted drivers in Kubuntu 10.04?
[22:34] <craigwdy2k> What's the hardware device in question?  If it's a nVidia GPU there's a How-To here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia.
[22:36] <DoctorPepper> hi guys!
[22:41] <craigwdy2k> Has anyone else here been having issues with new AMD 780G/AMD SB7X0 combination or is just me?  I really need a quick & dirty way to find out if my ACPI issue (Resum from Hibernate garbled graphics & the resume fails) is hardware related.  The real issue is that this PC's warranty expires on 8/30/10...
[22:42] <craigwdy2k> *Resume from Hibernate garbled graphics & the resume fails
[22:43] <look> craigwdy2k, Its a broadcom BCM412
[22:46] <lahwran> look, no it's not
[22:46] <lahwran> that was the wifi
[22:46] <lahwran> and the wifi was working fine >.>
[22:48] <TurionX-cba> kubuntu in spanish?
[22:48] <craigwdy2k> Which version & variant of Ubuntu are you using look?  According to Broadcom's site they have a driver for it: http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php.
[22:51] <craigwdy2k> Nice to see a fellow Turion owner on here...  Which laptop do you use TurionX-cba?
[22:52] <TurionX-cba> #kubuntu-es
[22:53] <craigwdy2k> Yeah but what's the version number? or at least the codename?
[22:53] <FodoX> ola novo aki
[22:54] <TurionX-cba> mi machine no is a netbook ,is a athlon dualcore 5200
[22:56] <craigwdy2k> Interesting: Yeah this PC is a Turion X2 ZM-85 based model: my main reason for trying Kubuntu in the first place was that I was hoping to get better battery life compared to Win7 x64 Home Premium.
[22:57] <DoctorPepper> can someone help me ,  i am setting up kubuntu desktops for my school and i cant get kde to behave like windows from the shortcuts standpoint . for instance  i  need the kmenu  to kick in  if the meta key  and at the same time having meta key  used as an accelerator  to have shortcut like meta+e for calling dolphin
[23:00] <craigwdy2k> Not to mention reliability too.  Anyone know of an alternate kernel that may suit this model of PC laptop better?  Or is my best bet to recompile the stock kernel?  I need to find a good How-To though.  I'm starting to seriously doubt whether or not this PC is fully supported by any AMD64 based Linux hardware wise.
[23:01] <well_laid_lawn> !kernel
[23:05] <craigwdy2k> According to this site KDE 4 is quite broken at the moment DoctorPepper & trying to fix keyboard shortcut mappings can be quite glitchy & problematic: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=489703.
[23:07] <StepNjump2> I lost my menus at the top of DOLPHIN. How could I get it back please?
[23:09] <Torch> StepNjump2: ctrl+m?
[23:09] <StepNjump2> Yeah! thanks!
[23:09] <DoctorPepper> craigwdy2k: acgj
[23:10] <DoctorPepper> craigwdy2k: actually  i manage to have the menu showup using the meta key
[23:11] <DoctorPepper> the issue is to have at the same time  shortcuts like meta+E  working
[23:12] <craigwdy2k> Weird: my WinKey never works right on this laptop...  Do you know of any good Open Source 3RVX/Quick Launch Application Keys managers?
[23:13] <DoctorPepper> no
[23:15] <craigwdy2k> I've also tried Fedora Core 13 which worked right up until recently.  Again: it makes me think I need to run some hardware diagnostics software on this PC laptop.  Even HP's ActiveX based hardware diagnostics tool is crone to ACPI related freezes/crashes...
[23:15] <craigwdy2k> prone*
[23:58] <craigwdy2k> I have to go now: I need to make sure this PC isn't distracted while I'm attempting my Kernel Re-Compile.