=== Andre_Gondim-afk is now known as Andre_Gondim [00:16] what is the default package manager for ubuntu when using the CLI? [00:18] FalsAlarm, dpkg|apt-get|aptitude [00:19] ok, i use that apt-get since I know it [00:20] if I want to install jre on a production server, is that apt-get openjdk-6-dbg [00:21] or is it, openjdk-6-jre [00:21] FalsAlarm, apt-cache search openjdk [00:22] found this one, default-jre - Standard Java or Java compatible Runtime === Andre_Gondim is now known as Andre_Gondim-afk [00:26] i dont want no debugging version of jre === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [01:02] hi, i just installed 10.04 and i would like install asterisk on it [01:03] is better install it from ubuntu repository or from sources with maka === kentb is now known as kentb[out] [01:13] some one here ? === Andre_Gondim-afk is now known as Andre_Gondim [02:11] New bug: #624361 in openssh (main) "service ssh restart does not test the configuration file" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/624361 === Andre_Gondim is now known as Andre_Gondim-afk [02:26] for some reason I can't access my website, which is on an apache2 ubuntu server i run [02:26] i can ssh into the server and it's clear the site is there, but I can't access it from a browser [02:29] ... === Big_Brother is now known as Sand-Wookie [02:31] bcomp, /var/www ? [02:32] yes [02:35] bcomp, and what is the extension? non-standard? [02:35] ChmEarl, yes [02:36] extension? [02:36] html php shtml [02:36] html [02:38] bcomp, telnet www.xxx.yyy.zzz 80 [02:39] bcomp, if that is blocked then its FW [02:40] oh i just realized what the problem is === Andre_Gondim-afk is now known as Andre_Gondim [02:42] the router the server's hooked to [02:42] thanks for the help === Andre_Gondim is now known as Andre_Gondim-afk [03:38] zul: when i saw bug 624061 the _Description being bogus seemed plausible, but now i see the lucid package has that too [03:38] Launchpad bug 624061 in bacula "package bacula-director-mysql 5.0.1-1ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/624061 [03:38] hallyn: yeah its probably a bug with the "_Description" but I would have to check more [03:39] hallyn: or you could be on crack :) [03:39] zul: ok, on the one hand it seems nonurgent, but otoh if it's so trivial as to be s/_Description/Description/, then i wouldn't want to miss maverick freeze with that === Andre_Gondim-afk is now known as Andre_Gondim [03:39] hallyn: Ill do it first thing tomorrow [03:39] zul: thanks so much [03:40] will buy you a red bull in orlando :) [03:44] meh... === Sand-Wookie is now known as B_B`sleep [04:07] hi all.. [04:07] Could anybody help me regarding how to set up a private cloud? [04:28] scar: So you are saying that virt stuff belongs in here> [04:29] yep that's what jussi said [04:30] So I was wondering about the --location option with virt-install [04:30] twb: hi! [04:30] the problem has re-surfaced [04:30] Can we use that for a deb repo? [04:31] I would assume rpm people stick to their rpmness. [04:35] http://pastebin.com/Tib7A4nc [04:36] auth-client-config -a -plac_ldap is what i had executed [04:37] client auth was working fine [04:37] now after a few reboots it has again stopped working [04:37] rather it does auth but logs me out [04:42] http://pastebin.com/kFJYrwFU - now again the login is stable and the user is not thrown out but i fail to understand the first and last line in this post [04:42] can anyone please help me diagnose the strange ldap client auth behaviour [04:43] this is pure ssh login [04:43] no X [04:46] [09:05] http://pastebin.com/Tib7A4nc [09:06] auth-client-config -a -plac_ldap is what i had executed [09:06] client auth was working fine [09:06] now after a few reboots it has again stopped working [09:07] rather it does auth but logs me out [09:12] http://pastebin.com/kFJYrwFU - now again the login is stable and the user is not thrown out bu [04:53] 13:36 auth-client-config -a -plac_ldap is what i had executed [04:53] intelliant: that is NOT what I told you to run [04:53] i did try with what you told me to do [04:53] intelliant: you've borked your pam settings by running -a instead of -tnss [04:53] it worked with that but was not creating the home directories [04:54] and it was working yesterday absolutely fine [04:54] even now it is working [04:54] Well, I suppose it will work for most things [04:54] 10 mins back it was throwing me out [04:54] It'll bitch when you next update something that has pam integration, though. [04:55] okay for that I can create a separate profile, right [04:55] ? [04:55] the only thing i have done in between is installed a lot of applications [04:55] intelliant: re. creating home directories, you will need to enable pam_mkhomedir.so in the appropriate /etc/pam.d/common-* files, which I recommend doing indirectly via /usr/share/pam-auth and running pam-auth-update. [04:56] k [04:56] The manpages for same should be pretty clear about it [04:56] i confess i have not yet read the man pages [04:56] i will do that today [04:56] Note that if you have a client/server network, pam_mkhomedir will populate home based on /etc/skel of the host you log in on, NOT the server. [04:56] So if you're playing games with /etc/skel on the fileserver, that'll trip you up [05:00] will take care of keeping the /etc/skel on the hosts consistent [05:01] but is there anything to explain the random behaviour [05:01] within last 15 mins nothing has changed [05:01] Are you using plain ldap, or ldap/krb? [05:01] plain ldap [05:01] off centos [05:01] krb and nfs4 are very antsy when clocks get out of sync [05:01] okay [05:02] I can't think of anything else offhand [05:02] one thing i changed in the last 15 mins [05:02] i had /home nfs mounted [05:02] I'd probably be using ldap-tools and/or packet sniffing to attempt to diagnose it, in discussion with #openldap [05:02] i removed it [05:02] but even after that it threw me out once [05:02] Also, obviously, looking at log files. [05:02] i will remount /home and try [05:02] nothing in auth.log or messages [05:02] Oh, and if you're logging into a GUI, that will often hide important messages from pam -- try logging in on tty1 [05:03] no gui as of now [05:03] The logs to read will mainly be the server's [05:03] this is all sssh [05:03] gui demon is waiting to be tamed :) [05:03] Uh, so you're using LDAP for authentication of *sshd*? [05:03] openldap server, you mean? [05:03] no i am using it for ltsp-clients [05:03] Yeah, slapd. [05:05] ltsp clients auth using ssh [05:05] This is an LTSP network? You should've mentioned that up-front. [05:06] i think i mentioned it yesterday [05:06] first post [05:06] OK, I must have missed that. [05:06] or may be not [05:06] So you have a CentOS server running slapd and sshd, and thinclients that netboot an Ubuntu-based LTSP image? [05:07] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSP-Cluster [05:07] ^^ is my setup [05:07] intelliant: Error: "^" is not a valid command. [05:07] ^ is my setup [05:07] intelliant: Error: "is" is not a valid command. [05:07] Just ignore him [05:07] add to it ldap auth and nfs mounted home [05:08] ldap auth as per https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LDAPClientAuthentication#Notes%20for%207.10%20and%20later [05:08] sshd is being used from the ltsp-appservers [05:08] and not from the centos server [05:09] ? [05:09] but would ltsp make any difference in this case [05:09] Your LTSP clients are operating in the default mode, where they use ssh -X (not XDMCP)? [05:10] hmm...i am lost [05:10] should i check lts.conf? [05:10] OK, I have to do some work-work. Try talking to #ltsp [05:11] In short, I suspect you need to fix *sshd* (the sshd LTSP is pointing at, probably the appserver) to auth against slapd. [05:11] i came here from #ltsp [05:11] oh without ldap auth it was working fine [05:12] each appserver's sshd is individually authenticating against the central slapd [05:15] That's all you should need [05:16] it seems to be working for now [05:16] also one last thing [05:16] let me see when the problem resurfaces [05:16] how to persist the changes in /etc/security/groups.conf [05:17] should i chattr +i it or there is another way? [05:17] it's a conffile, so changes should be persistent automatically [05:18] If I was to set up several kvm virtual machines for testing, what arch would be the lowest impact you think? [05:18] I was thinking there might be some advantages to using something like armel... [05:19] the changes are lost :( [05:19] I am doing them again [05:19] akio: kvm can't use hardware virtualization for armel, I think [05:19] And then: Ubuntu only supports x86 and x86-64 [05:24] twb: thanks for your help [05:35] twb: FYI, did a reboot of the appserver and the problem resurfaced === Andre_Gondim is now known as Andre_Gondim-afk === Andre_Gondim-afk is now known as Andre_Gondim [05:35] Is the appserver running lucid? [05:36] Pastebin the output of "auth-client-config --show-system" on the appserver. [05:39] yes it is running lucid [05:40] http://pastebin.com/XjhE3jdb [05:40] [10:06] Aug 26 10:06:43 ltsp-appserve01 ltsp-cluster-accountmanager: Killing user "shrenik.bhura" [10:06] ^ can anyone please explain this ? [10:07] found this in syslog of the appserver in an ltsp-cluster setup [05:41] found this in syslog [05:41] it could be the ltsp-cluster components [05:41] have been asking on the ltsp forums as well [05:41] I can't explain that; ask ltsp-cluster-accountmanager people [05:42] just FYI, want to be sure that there is nothing wrong with ldap-auth [05:44] now again the user is properly logged in [05:45] so almost after 10-15 mins of a reboot [05:48] twb: so i think you find nothing wrong with the current setup except the care i need to take for /etc/skel ? I also feel that it has something to do with the ltsp-cluster-accountmanager. [05:49] It looks like a conventional lac-style pam setup. [05:49] For lucid I'd be relying on the pam-auth-update style, but either should work. [05:49] Having said that, it's often VERY hard to see when pam.d is slightly misconfigured. [05:49] what are the man pages i should be reading to understand this topic better? [05:50] I'd be zeroing in on ltsp-cluster-accountmanager [05:51] Curiously, that package is in Ubuntu, but not Debian. That makes me even more suspicious of it. [05:51] It also hasn't been updated since it first arrived, in Karmic. [05:51] may be stgraber will help [05:51] http://pastebin.com/HQ0bXdbW [05:51] anything to explain the first line [05:52] google throws up many things [06:00] twb: man page suggestions please [06:00] Sorry, I think I've spent enough time on you. [06:03] twb: okay, thanks. sorry to bother you again. [06:03] No problem. === skydrome_ is now known as Skydrome === Andre_Gondim is now known as Andre_Gondim-afk === freeflyi1g is now known as freeflying === Andre_Gondim-afk is now known as Andre_Gondim [06:44] twb: found the cause and the solution here - https://answers.launchpad.net/ltsp-cluster/+question/101648 , running pam-auth-update auto-fixed it. That is th eonly piece you forgot to tell me yesterday. :) Will be testing with the real thin-clients in about an hour now that ssh login is persistent. Thanks again. [06:44] intelliant: if you hadn't fucked up and ran -a instead of -tnss, you wouldn't hae HAD to run pam-auth-update manually === Andre_Gondim is now known as Andre_Gondim-afk === alex88[away] is now known as alex88 [07:13] Daviey: that's great ! === ivoks_away is now known as ivoks [07:46] New bug: #624461 in tomcat6 (main) "package tomcat6 6.0.24-2ubuntu1.3 failed to install/upgrade: podproces zainstalowany skrypt post-installation zwrócił kod błędu 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/624461 === ivoks is now known as ivoks_away [08:53] is there a way to display the boot messages on 10.04 server, like in good old times? :) with quiet kernel option but the rest to show up, and no ubuntu logo etc? === erichammond1 is now known as erichammond [10:26] New bug: #624522 in postfix (main) "Postfix init.d script and populate chroot in multi-instance environment [debian bug #560682]" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/624522 [10:29] I have an LTSP setup with 10.04. the clients are turned off a lot, without shutdown and I have a bunch of nbd-servers lying around [10:29] is there a timeout or something I can do to kill those? [11:05] cemc: nbd ? === erichammond1 is now known as erichammond [11:08] SpamapS: yeah, nbd-server (network block device) exports the image file for clients (instead of NFS) [11:10] Oh I didn't know LTSP worked that way. Interesting. [11:12] cemc: according to 'man nbd-server' the '-a' parameter sets a timeout [11:13] SpamapS: hm, I don't see any mention of -a in this man page... [11:15] cemc: heh, I was looking at an nbd-server man page from some other OS I guess.. [11:15] http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man5/nbd-server.5.html [11:16] lookup "timeout" .. "Corresponds to the -a option on the command line" [11:16] weird, but this one doesn't mention it [11:16] http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man1/nbd-server.1.html [11:17] yeah, it doesn't know about it. # nbd-server -a [11:17] nbd-server: invalid option -- 'a' [11:32] hello [11:40] i have installed freeradius and messed all the config, how can i remove and then install and have the default config again? [11:48] Maybe "purge" it? aptitude purge . Then reinstall. [11:55] yes :D [11:55] thanks [12:31] Yesterday, I installed 10.04 on a system with 2x disks (sda,sdb) and wanted RAID. I made 3 MD RAID-1 devices md0 (/boot), md1 (/) and md2 (for a PV). On reboot, the system has come up degraded and seems to have created partitionable MD devices i.e. [12:31] md0 has 1x md2p1, md1 has 1x md2p5. Both md0,md1 degraded. [12:31] md2 has sdb[1] sda[0] and is OK. [12:31] I might have messed something up, but am generally used to doing this sort of thing (usually Debian). There seem to be others reporting oddities installing 10.04 on RAID as well. [12:31] I think I'll have to try a reinstall tonight. Maybe I pressed the wrong button ... [12:34] hey [12:35] is it possible to limit bandwidth on a dedicated server? [12:36] sure [12:36] use tc [12:38] Can someone link me to how to setup Ubuntu 10.04 that have qlogic HBA attached to a SAN. Has anyone done this before? [12:39] sherr: Some of these might have more information. bug 27037, bug 599135, bug 469574 or bug 532960 auto-assemble doesn't always work on Lucid, although I have not seen these problems on md devices that contain root [12:39] Launchpad bug 27037 in linux "mdadm cannot assemble array as cannot open drive with O_EXCL" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27037 [12:39] Launchpad bug 599135 in mdadm "mdadm cannot assemble array" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/599135 [12:39] Launchpad bug 469574 in mdadm "[->UUIDudev] new array not assembled correctly after reboot" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/469574 [12:39] Launchpad bug 532960 in mdadm "[->UUIDudev] mdadm.conf without ARRAY definition breaks reboot of new arrays" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/532960 [12:41] alvin: Thanks. Yes, I saw some of that, but have not read through all of it. This is all via the installer (server). No manual creation at all, so a bit surprising. [12:42] I also used the installer to create an array that always breaks at reboot [12:42] Great :-( [12:43] I have a server at work running 10.04 but using h/w RAID (Dell R410). So I didn't see this problem. If I had, I would hav freaked out :-O [12:44] It's possible to reassemble the array (even RAID 0) without data loss, but yes, it's a bit scary. [12:44] patdk-wk, whats tc? [12:44] I might just make a normal install (1 disk) and convert to RAID-1 after. [12:45] found it http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/jaunty/man8/tc.8.html [12:45] patdk-wk, what happens when they extend the set limit? [12:47] hello everybody [12:47] someone could help me with my lan?:D [12:50] blucreator: ask away [13:03] "ask", not "go" [13:09] <_ruben> i guess he only read the "away" part... [13:10] Any good command line tools to find duplicate files , by comparing there md5 sums .. [13:12] kuttan_: fdupes === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [13:35] thesheff17: you asked about ubuntu server and san...there's really not much to it, it just works like any other disk AFAIK [13:57] New bug: #374067 in clamav (main) "9.04 boot process hangs when using clamav-freshclam with pam_mount" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/374067 === kentb[out] is now known as kentb [14:03] what's the best way to keep certain config files synchronised across multiple machines? e.g. hosts.deny and firehol.conf [14:04] kirkland: heh, all well and good to file a bug against casper, but has 70, count 'em, 70, new bugs :) that poor bugger needs a maintainer :) [14:05] hallyn: :-( [14:05] hallyn: well, make sure it's triaged, importance set, and give 'er an owner [14:06] cjwatson you think? [14:06] maybe i'll make it myself [14:15] disposable: have you looked at etckeeper? [14:29] hallyn: ouch! casper definitely needs some triage love. :-P [14:34] hggdh, woohoo (regarding --use-loader) [14:35] I'm doing a migration from VMware Server to KVM and have a problem with one virtual machine. Starting up there's only a process '/usr/lib/libvirt/virt-aa-helper -c -u libvirt-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx' hanging, no kvm process started. Virsh commands jam, also virt-manager. Any suggestions? === alex88 is now known as alex88[away] [14:39] virt-aa-helper takes 100% cpu constantly [14:41] mkortela: How did you create the problem VM? [14:42] it is an old VMware .vmdk file - I have started up several of those successfully, but this one fails [14:48] hmmm... qemu-img convert gives a segfault when converting the image to raw format [14:55] SpamapS: yeah. i'm getting to know the code a bit so i may take it upon myself, once some other stuff clears off my plate [14:55] but right now, every time i think i'll get some time to work on what i NEED to be working on, kirkland and ttx assign new bugs to me :) [14:55] [14:56] !info vim maverick [14:56] vim (source: vim): Vi IMproved - enhanced vi editor. In component main, is optional. Version 2:7.2.330-1ubuntu3 (maverick), package size 844 kB, installed size 1672 kB [14:57] hallyn: sorry about that :-/ [14:57] hallyn: I just triaged 6 of the 70 .. ;) [14:57] hallyn: a few intrepid bugs.. vague reports.. === ivoks_away is now known as ivoks [15:00] SpamapS: you rock [15:14] hallyn: yep, today is my big HIGH/MED release management bug review ! [15:14] hallyn: for the record, if the bug is not targeted to a specific milestone, it's a "good to have" that doesn't take precedence on spec work. === mathiaz_ is now known as mathiaz [15:31] is there a util in ubuntu that can chkdsk a fat32 / ntfs drive? [15:31] or do a sector by sector analysis? [15:31] ttx: o/ [15:31] ttx: reviewing my WIs for different blueprint [15:32] ttx: what's the next milestone if I wanna postpone some WI? [15:32] mathiaz: o/ [15:32] ttx: ubuntu-10.10/ [15:32] ttx: ? [15:32] yep [15:32] ttx: is there a milestone for rc/ [15:32] ttx: ? [15:32] no there isn't [15:32] as rc is supposed to be ~final. [15:32] ttx: ok === kentb is now known as kentb_dell [15:33] ttx: for server-maverick-uds-seed-review [15:33] ttx: Investigate printer drivers usage of desktop and update corresponding packages on the -server iso [15:33] ttx: what does that mean? [15:34] mathiaz: on a call, brb [15:34] ttx: ok [15:35] ttx: ok, thx. yeah i've been trying to get things out the door before today [15:39] smoser: hy-ho [15:39] hey [15:40] what can I do for you? === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [15:49] hallyn: in fact having bugs nominated to Maverick actually allows you to submit fixes post betafreeze, so you're doing it right :) [15:56] mathiaz: back for 2 min [15:56] ttx: for server-maverick-uds-seed-review [15:56] ttx: Investigate printer drivers usage of desktop and update corresponding packages on the -server iso [15:57] ttx: what does this actually mean^^? [15:57] mathiaz: I think this can be considered done with the unseeding of hplip [15:57] ttx: ok [15:57] Did I write that ? [15:57] ttx: that = ? [15:58] Investigate printer drivers usage... [15:58] ttx: I don't know - it came out of the UDS session... [15:59] ttx: I've marked the WI as done and assigned it to you [15:59] mathiaz: cool, thx [15:59] ttx: and "Review ubiquity-frontend-debconf" ? [15:59] ttx: what's that about? [15:59] o0 [16:00] mathiaz: no clue. [16:00] ttx: ok thanks [16:00] is that in the server seed ? [16:02] ttx: it's on the iso: /pool/main/u/ubiquity/ubiquity-frontend-debconf_2.3.7_all.deb [16:03] mathiaz: I think that's what it is about then. Answer the why [16:04] ttx: probably because of oem-config-debconf [16:05] hmm.. its fairly difficult to see a list of things I have waiting on sponsorship... [16:37] hallyn: down to 60! [16:39] hallyn: I feel a bit silly commenting on / triaging 2+ year old bug reports. ;) === Andre_Gondim-afk is now known as Andre_Gondim [16:46] What is the default syslog in ubuntu server 10.04 LTS? [16:46] SpamapS: sigh - might be worth adopting that package. at the very least i'll subscribe to all bugs for it [16:47] raubvogel: looks like it's rsyslogd [16:48] hallyn: seems like a cool package. I'm surprised at how many bug reports have been allowed to just sit and rot :-P [16:50] !info rsyslog [16:50] rsyslog (source: rsyslog): enhanced multi-threaded syslogd. In component main, is important. Version 4.2.0-2ubuntu8 (lucid), package size 271 kB, installed size 712 kB [16:56] hallyn: well, about 60 minutes of triaging got it down to 58. Throw an hour at it every week and it'll be triaged completely by UDS-N [17:04] SpamapS: the problem is, that's only one package :) I'm wondering how many more there are like that [17:11] New bug: #624739 in tomcat6 (main) "/etc/tomcat6 is created with the wrong permissions" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/624739 [17:13] Is there a way to have a directory where any file that's created in that directory assumes the group of that directory? For example, if I have a dir with a group of "users", and someone creates a file in that group, there file is owned and grouped by that user, so other users cannot overwrite that file. [17:27] Im running VSFTPD and when you FTP in by typing the ftp address in firefox rather than keeping the user jailed, they can .. all the way up to the root. How do I prevent this? === luis__lopez is now known as luis_lopez [17:30] savid: g+s (see : man chmod) === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [17:49] hello, with the ubuntu server 10.04.1, if i ping www.google.com, it says ping: unknown host www.google.com, but if i ping an ip, it works. i need to make it ping names, since apt-get won't work this way. can anyone help? [17:49] another thing is that i cannot start bind9 server, it says failed. could it be a connection between the 2 problems? [17:51] constantin_mike: what does /etc/resolve.conf look like? (maybe put it in paste.ubuntu.com) [17:51] constantin_mike: set your dns /etc/resolve.conf [17:51] SpamapS: search gazduire4you.ro [17:51] constantin_mike: if resolve.conf is pointed at the local server, then the ping problem is caused by bind9 not starting, most likely [17:52] constantin_mike: thats it? [17:52] SpamapS, i guessed that, but what can i do? it is not my server ... i am helping out someone else [17:52] constantin_mike: is the server using DHCP? [17:52] i followed a guide for installing/reconfiguring bind9 (http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-server-ubuntu-9.10-karmic-koala-ispconfig-2-p4) but it did not work [17:53] i don't think so ... how could i check it? [17:53] almost surely it isn't dhcp, but still, how do i check? [17:53] constantin_mike: cat /etc/network/interfaces [17:53] constantin_mike: /etc/resolv.conf should contain the DNS servers you get from your ISP. [17:54] constantin_mike: if it says 'iface eth0 inet dhcp' .. then the DNS server is set by the DHCP server. Otherwise, you can edit /etc/resolve.conf directly... [17:54] nope, it isn't dhcp (iface eth0 inet static) [17:54] constantin_mike: ok, then try adding 'nameserver 8.8.8.8' to /etc/resolve.conf (warning: that is google's nameserver, they may track you ;) [17:55] lol [17:55] i know ... but i don't care about that right now [17:55] constantin_mike: why do you want bind9 ? [17:55] i edited it, now do i have to restart a service or it will simply work? [17:56] SpamapS ... it was installed already, i don't want it right now. i would be happy to simply have apache2 and mysql, and apt-get [17:56] but apt-get won't work since ... it only works with ips [17:56] yeeeey it just worked [17:56] silly me [17:56] thanks. the ping problem was not from bind9 but from resolv.conf [17:56] now, how could i fix bind9? i couldn't find the log files in /var/log [17:57] SpamapS, could you tell me where they are? [17:57] mc === unreal_ is now known as unreal [17:58] constantin_mike: you may want to ask your ISP what their DNS servers are, as google's may not be fast in your area (though in my experience, they're faster than most ISPs'). As far as BIND9, well, you need to have a *reason* to run a DNS server. ;) [17:58] well, the reason is that the owner of the server wants to host some websites under a domain name [17:59] i may not understand what bind9 does exactly ;)) [17:59] that isn't much of a reason [17:59] constantin_mike: I just let godaddy take care of DNS and just do hostname -> IP...an then you don't need local bind. [17:59] using local bind to serve dns info isn't a good idea [17:59] if the webserver goes down, website is down [18:00] okay, i understand that. but what does bind9 do exactly? [18:00] but if you do dns on it to, and only on it, then it will be down much much longer, even when it comes back up [18:00] converts names to numbers :) [18:00] okay, so bind9 is a nameserver? [18:00] yep [18:00] oookay, he probably does not need it right now [18:00] i'll stop it [18:00] now, you might want to install it anyways, depending on what the server does [18:01] like if it does lots of dns lookups, converting ip's to names, or checking rbl's [18:01] thanks for all the help. it was really useful. [18:01] constantin_mike: bind9 is a DNS server. You'll need *at least* 2 to have any kind of sanity. You're much better off just using DNS from a free/cheap provider (most of the time your registrar will do DNS for you for free) [18:01] just to cache the results, but not really serve requests [18:01] dnsmasq or dnscache are better for pure caching though [18:02] okay guys, i understand. if i'll really need it, i will come back :)) [18:02] using bind9 as a purely caching nameserver is like getting groceries in your M1A1 Abrahms tank. [18:02] I ran my normal load through pdns-recursor, and it works great for me [18:02] * ScottK likes unbound. [18:03] Been a while since I cared. Will have to check out unbound [18:05] mrf. [18:06] * yann2 lights a candle in memories to #ubuntu-virt === Andre_Gondim is now known as Andre_Gondim-afk === Andre_Gondim-afk is now known as Andre_Gondim [18:22] hello. i came back with another problem ... [18:22] if i do sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start [18:23] (this is on my local computer), it says /etc/default/rcS: 1: [Desktop: not found [18:23] i have never seen anything like this ... [18:34] the thing is that i cannot do anything with apache2 right now. start/stop/status wont work, will result in the same error, that i cannot understand where it comes from. Just a few hours ago, it worked perfectly [18:35] constantin_mike, what release is this ? [18:35] it's not ubuntu, but it's sidux (still debian) [18:35] i thought that maybe it's not something ubuntu-specific, but debian-specific [18:36] constantin_mike, you might benefit from 'sudo sh -x /etc/init.d/apache2 start' [18:36] and debugging from there. [18:37] it ends up here: + [Desktop Entry] [18:37] and then it says : /etc/default/rcS: 1: [Desktop: not found [18:42] well, wht is going on before that ? [18:44] smoser: http://pastebin.com/sf9XxNx6 [18:44] this is all the output [18:50] constantin_mike, it would appear to me that your /etc/default/rcS is hosed [18:52] aaah ... i have no idea about it. how can i fix it? i have never met this problem before [18:53] well, what is in that file ? [18:54] http://paste.ubuntu.com/484069/ is what mine looks like [18:54] i might try: apt-get install --reinstall --purge initscripts --dry-run [18:55] (and then remove the dry-run) [18:56]