[00:31] <mtaylor> I am getting package rejected emails and I do not know why
[00:33] <wgrant> mtaylor: What's the error message?
[00:34] <mtaylor> wgrant: dpkg-source failed for drizzle_2010.08.1717-3.2~lucid01.dsc [return: 29]
[00:35] <mtaylor> wgrant: quite possible that I've done something horribly horribly wrong ... but I hope not
[00:35] <wgrant> mtaylor: Looks like your package breaks our backported dpkg. Can you extract it locally on Lucid?
[00:35] <mtaylor> uh - lemme check
[00:36] <mtaylor> (was built on a squeeze box - perhaps I should build these on a lucid box?)
[00:36] <wgrant> Bonus points if you have a Karmic machine around on which to try it.
[00:36] <mtaylor> I do
[00:36]  * mtaylor likes working for a hosting company ... :)
[00:37] <wgrant> Since we're running roughly Karmic's dpkg backported to Hardy.
[00:37] <mtaylor> oh dear god
[00:37] <wgrant> Hm?
[00:37] <mtaylor> hardy is, um, old :)
[00:37] <wgrant> It was the latest LTS when we did the backport :)
[00:37] <mtaylor> hehe
[00:37] <wgrant> I'm not sure when the DC is going to Lucid.
[01:05] <thumper> hi mtaylor
[01:06] <spm> wgrant: it's already started
[01:06] <wgrant> spm: Yay.
[01:14] <parentel> I'm trying to access staging.launchpad.net, and it says "Code Update In Progress", and to come here if the situation persists...  any news on that?
[01:16] <mtaylor> hi thumper
[01:16] <thumper> spm: ETA on staging coming up?
[01:17] <spm> thumper: when you guess how long this piece of string is <== vaguely related answer. :-/
[01:17] <thumper> parentel: perhaps another 10 minutes
[01:17] <thumper> maybe?
[01:17] <thumper> spm: BTW, that piece of string is 26.35cm long
[01:17] <spm> maybe. I've been saying 5-15 mins for 35 mins now.
[01:18] <spm> thumper: damn! you're *good*!
[01:18] <thumper> spm: I know
[01:18]  * spm always forgets 'modest' when describing thumper
[01:20] <parentel> thanks for the information
[01:22] <spm> staging codebrowse just went down, so must be getting closer...
[01:24] <lifeless> spm: echannel :P
[01:24] <spm> I am multi-channel confused
[01:27] <lifeless> øsomething something death star?
[04:58] <d1b> hi um
[04:58] <d1b>  http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/maverick/checkbox/maverick/revision/18 doesn't work :/
[04:59] <thumper> d1b: the code browser is undergoing rapid surgery right now
[04:59] <d1b> thumper: so why can't i see a more useful error message?
[04:59] <thumper> to pull its head out of its a#$%
[04:59] <d1b> sounds great
[04:59] <thumper> what are you seeing?
[04:59] <spm> d1b: try now?
[04:59] <d1b>   Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server.
[05:00] <d1b> now it works
[05:35] <mtaylor> thumper: yay head out of ass!
[05:36] <thumper> mtaylor: :)
[05:40] <spm> mtaylor: a shower, or at least a good hair wash may be in order???
[05:43] <mneptok> thumper: http://mneptok.com/launchpad_404.jpg <---- make it so
[05:43] <thumper> mneptok: nice!
[05:44] <thumper> mneptok: I'll pass the request to spm
[05:45] <thumper> mneptok: although since I am fake-flacoste for a few weeks
[05:45] <thumper> perhaps we should just ram it in (as they say)
[05:45] <mwhudson> more appropriate for 503s, surely?
[05:45]  * spm may not be able to stop laughing long enough to actually get that image cherry picked into prod...
[05:45] <mneptok> that's "faux flacoste" monsieur ;)
[05:46] <mneptok> OK, bbiab, time for yoga.
[05:46] <mneptok> errr ... wait ... i ... uhhhh ....
[05:46] <StevenK> ... so you can do that?
[05:46] <spm> I was NOT trying to think that....
[05:46] <mneptok> StevenK: mmmrmrmmfffmrmrmrffmrmfmfrrf
[05:47] <StevenK> Oh, ew, I just saw "Rejecting telepathy-ring" on mawson
[05:47] <mneptok> spm: what you want to try to avoid thinking is seeing that picture and remembering the phrase "open Launchpad API"
[05:48] <spm> or menepolo... I still wait up screaming in the night from that one
[05:48] <mneptok> (API = Ass Phrenology Interface)
[05:48] <mneptok> spm: ooo! my friend sent another photo in that series.
[05:48] <spm> pls do share. /me rapidly puts kurt on /ignore
[05:48]  * mneptok feels the love :/
[05:49] <spm> oh dear. nearly had a keyboard+drink incident...
[05:49] <mneptok> how about something from the other end of the spectrum. this is a photo i sent to Linux Format to accompany an interview. they didn't run it. http://mneptok.com/bang.jpg
[05:50] <spm> surely they'd realise by now that all linux folks are gun nutters?
[05:51] <StevenK> We all aren't esr, thank you very much
[05:52] <mneptok> yet. but he's pretty sure it'll happen soon.
[05:52] <mwhudson> errrrrrrrrr
[05:52] <mneptok> (that's when i rotate that rifle 180 degrees)
[05:52]  * mwhudson chuckles
[06:05] <micahg> I just got a google maps APi error on edge
[06:10] <mtaylor> mneptok: bwahahaha
[06:19] <mneptok> mwhudson: http://mneptok.com/launchpad_503.jpg  <----- howzzat?
[06:20] <mwhudson> mneptok: :)
[08:58] <janimo> Are the restrictions on packages in a PPA the same as for those in the official Ubuntu archives? I saw the policy https://help.launchpad.net/PPATermsofUse but does not explicitly mention patents. So would libdvdcss2 for example be unfit?
[09:26] <noodles775> janimo: I'm not sure, but I assume the rule would be: If its published in main/universe then it's OK, if it's not published there (for legal reasons) then not.
[09:26] <noodles775> bigjools: ?
[09:26] <noodles775> 09:58 < janimo> Are the restrictions on packages in a PPA the same as for those in the official Ubuntu archives? I saw the policy  https://help.launchpad.net/PPATermsofUse but does not explicitly mention patents. So would libdvdcss2 for example be unfit?
[09:27] <bigjools> the only restriction I know of is that it's covered by a recognised open source licence
[09:28] <persia> Hrm?  So I can't release it under "Persia's License", which is a modified ISC to replace "The Copyright Holder" with "Emmet Hikory"?
[09:28]  * persia has seen *heaps* of software in PPAs that have that level of modification.
[09:28] <janimo> bigjools: besides the license the policy text says it should distributable by Canonical, but that is vagie
[09:29] <bigjools> the actual line says "released under a license permitting redistribution free of charge"
[09:29] <persia> That makes more sense.  That's Canonical refusing liability for redistribution costs.
[09:29] <bigjools> janimo: that does seem a little vague
[09:29] <wgrant> It's not actually terribly vague.
[09:29] <janimo> anyway thanks. I was wiondering if libdvdcss2 which is FOSS but patent encumbered I guess as most distros shy away from distributing it
[09:30] <persia> Indeed.  It's fairly standard language.
[09:30] <janimo> persia: yes, standard legal langues, thus vague :)
[09:30] <persia> Merely technical, much as smalltalk is not always readable to the layperson
[09:31] <bigjools> I know next to nothing about licensing/patents so I'll wait for someone who does
[09:32] <persia> Unofficially, the key bit is that the software be licensed to Canonical in a way that allows Canonical to allow arbitrary folks to download it however they like.  The rest is just preferred social engineering, and perhaps unacceptable terms.
[09:54] <dholbach> heya
[09:54] <dholbach> can somebody explain to me what's up with bug 625120? :)
[10:08] <Stefyy> can you tell me how to see videos from youtube?
[10:11] <noodles775> hi dholbach . From what I can make out on the bug, it looks like the loco APP stores the LP username. When the user updates their name in LP, and they login/logout of SSO, the signing showns the new username on SSO, but the loco app still has the old...
[10:12] <noodles775> hrm
[10:12] <janimo> Stefyy: ask in the #ubuntu channel next time (but probably you need to instal the flashplugin-installer package)
[10:13] <einstein1969> hi to all
[10:13] <noodles775> dholbach: can you check the admin interface for the loco app, and check for both usernames?
[10:14] <dholbach> noodles775, the LD updates information about the admins and owners of LP teams in a cronjob
[10:15] <noodles775> dholbach: Yep, but he's still being shown his old username once redirected back to loco isn't he?
[10:16] <dholbach> yeah, I just don't know why
[10:16] <noodles775> dholbach: Do you have access to the admin site for loco? if so, the data may reveal all :)
[10:17] <dholbach> noodles775, hang on for a sec, I need to dig it out again
[10:19] <dholbach> noodles775, just chatting with stuartm from isd, he might have some code for me to fix it
[10:19] <dholbach> thanks a lot noodles775
[10:19] <noodles775> dholbach: great.
[10:24] <dholbach> noodles775, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/loco-directory/+bug/625120/comments/9 - thanks again
[10:25] <noodles775> dholbach: great!
[10:33] <einstein1969> I am following a bug (623450) on "zenity" and "gnome system monitor". But it's' been placed in state "invalid". Now I have found a way to reproduce and I updated the bug. With this state, will ' considered?
[10:38] <noodles775> Hi einstein1969, best to check with the zenity people, but given that you've both commented that you are able to reproduce, I think it is safe to set it back to New.
[10:43] <einstein1969> noodles775: can " i " set back to new?
[10:45] <einstein1969> noodles775: where i find the zenity people or "gnome system monitor" people?
[10:48] <noodles775> einstein1969: All the relevant people are subscribed to the bug, so they will have received your update (and Muflone's).
[10:48] <noodles775> einstein1969: regarding setting it back to new, what happens when you click on 'Invalid' at the top of the bug?
[10:49] <noodles775> If nothing happens, then you can't update it (but it's not yet been a day, give them some time :) ).
[10:51] <einstein1969> thanks noodles775 :)
[10:52] <noodles775> no problem.
[11:04] <bencer> can i copy binaries from partner repository to my ppa without rebuilding
[11:05] <bigjools> bencer: why do you need to do that?
[11:06] <bencer> bigjools: on eBox Platform we use PPA as the main repository, and now we have a module for zarafa
[11:07] <bigjools> also see https://help.launchpad.net/PPATermsofUse
[11:07] <bencer> we would like to avoid people having to add two repositories more
[11:07] <bencer> and currently, launchpad is taking so many ours to build our packages ...
[11:07] <bigjools> that will improve, there was a problem with a new kernel breaking xen
[11:07] <bigjools> the builders are all back up now
[11:08] <bencer> also I ask myself if launchpad could give more building priority to native ubuntu projects
[11:08] <bencer> to other "normal" users
[11:08] <bencer> we are releasing on 1st, and with current building times, we need the final release ready 2-3 days in advance ...
[11:09] <bigjools> everyone who uses the build farm thinks their builds are more important than everyone else's :)
[11:10] <bigjools> anyway, copying partner packages to a PPA would break the terms of use
[11:10] <bencer> bigjools: i know :)
[11:10] <bencer> bigjools: we are using zarafa open source version
[11:11] <bencer> about building priority, imho its not the same building a custom package that an ubuntu native project
[11:12] <bencer> and would be very sad for us, moving away from launchpad because we can't deal with that build times
[11:12] <bencer> anyway, good to listen that's going to improve back
[11:16] <bigjools> bencer: yes, the current queue is less than an hour
[11:17] <bencer> bigjools: that's good enough, thanks :)
[11:17] <bencer> an other feature request that we have raised a couple of times before is ppa statistics
[11:18] <bencer> we know how many people download the installer, but not how many uses the ppa
[11:18] <bigjools> bencer: it's in progress - we found some problems with the script that's supposed to produce them (in that it eats all the server memory)
[11:18] <bencer> oh that's great news!
[11:18] <bigjools> talking of which, noodles775, did you file another bug about that?
[11:19] <bencer> bigjools: is there any estimated date for it ? could we help with something ?
[11:19] <noodles775> I did... looking
[11:19] <bigjools> great
[11:19] <bigjools> bencer: if you want to help code on the bug, you can!
[11:19] <noodles775> bug 622765
[11:20] <bigjools> thanks noodles775
[11:21] <bigjools> bencer: let me know if that's something you want to help fix
[11:21] <bencer> i'll send a message to all the guys here asking for a volunteer, otherwise i'll try to have a look at that myself next week
[11:22] <bencer> now all our efforts are on the release, which is next week :)
[11:23] <bencer> bigjools: noodles775 i will come to you about this bug next week, thanks dudes
[11:23] <bigjools> great
[11:43] <Laney> is it just me or did various text on edge get huge recently?
[11:45] <jpds> Laney: Ubuntu font?
[11:45] <Laney> jpds: For example changelogs and bug comments
[11:49] <Laney> http://orangesquash.org.uk/~laney/huge.png somewhat like that
[12:38] <maxb> Laney: It's not just you
[13:11] <Laney> maxb: is there a bug?
[13:11] <maxb> Not that I know of, but it has been mentioned here
[13:12] <maxb> the problem that is, not a bug
[13:32] <weather15> Hello Everyone
[13:32] <weather15> Anyone know why I can't seem to delete a recipe and a branch on edge?
[16:04] <AJenbo> Why are all bugreports i make marked as privat?
[16:07] <jpds> AJenbo: Are they apport bugs?
[16:16] <AJenbo> jpds, yeah i think so.
[16:16] <jpds> AJenbo: Those are private by default, the collected files attached can potentially contain private data.
[16:16] <AJenbo> The last one i just sendt in was done from a fresh live CD where ubiquity crashed
[16:17] <AJenbo> jpds, ok, makes sence
[16:17] <AJenbo> i'll have to take note next time i report some thing manually
[16:17] <AJenbo> jpds, is this a new setting (with in the last 6 months or so)?
[16:18] <jpds> AJenbo: I think it has always been that way.
[16:18] <AJenbo> ok, i never noticed it befor i reported on a U1 account issue
[16:19] <AJenbo> and then sudenly every thing seamed to be private
[16:19] <AJenbo> maybe just a change of habits :)
[16:21] <bsaibes> Is the Staging server up? I have been trying to use it since yesterday, it err with staging server is currently getting code  update
[16:47] <serfus> hey guys, i'm trying to add a related FAQ to a question on launchpad but seem like no matter what i do i get error "You didn't modify the linked FAQ."
[16:47] <serfus> what do i need to do in order to post that FAQ ?
[16:49] <dpm> abentley, rockstar, henninge pointed me to you guys as the experts on this. Are mirrored branches read-only? I'm wondering if a mirrored branch can be used as the source for automatic translation exports
[16:49] <nigelb> It might be protected.
[16:49] <nigelb> serfus: I think somone here would help you with that :)
[16:49] <nigelb> i.e. you can say what needs to be added
[16:49] <abentley> dpm, mirrored branches are read-only for users.  They are written to only by the mirroring process.
[16:50] <dpm> ok, thanks abentley!
[16:50] <al> yea, thanks :>
[16:54] <serfus> nigelb, i'm trying to add to this https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+question/122944 question a link from the ubuntu wiki
[16:54] <ari-tczew> I have a problem with launchpad - browser firefox. Every visited launchpad's page giving an error about API server refused. 'client parametr is not valid'.
[16:54] <ari-tczew> micahg: ^
[16:55] <serfus> ari-tczew, https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad-registry/+question/123004
[16:55] <serfus> that's a problem with google itself
[16:56] <nigelb> ari-tczew: google maps something?
[16:57] <abentley> bigjools, which ppa is breaking this? http://librarian.dogfood.launchpad.net/51750858/buildlog.txt.gz  Is it because there are no bzr-builder packages for dapper?
[16:57] <ari-tczew> nigelb: perhaps, because 'bugs' page doesn
[16:57] <ari-tczew> doesn't give an error
[16:57] <bigjools> abentley: I don;t know, the build URL is more useful
[16:57] <abentley> bigjools, https://code.dogfood.launchpad.net/~abentley/+recipe/wakeonlan-lucid/+build/286
[16:57] <bigjools> oh wait - bzr-builder-dev
[16:58] <bigjools> bzr-builder-dev is not set up for dapper
[16:59] <abentley> bigjools, okay.  Can we disable using that PPA?  This version of launchpad-buildd runs bzr-builder in the host.
[17:00] <bigjools> abentley: just upload a dummy package to dapper in that PPA
[17:01] <bigjools> or, don't build recipes on dapper ...!
[17:01] <abentley> bigjools, you say that like I should know how to create a dummy package.
[17:01] <abentley> bigjools, I'd like to be able to build recipes on dapper if the technology permits.
[17:01] <bigjools> abentley: copy something then
[17:09] <micahg> ari-tczew: I had that last night I wasn't sure if it was an LP issue or Google issue
[17:09] <micahg> ari-tczew: are you on edge.launchpad.net?
[17:09] <ari-tczew> micahg: no, normal launchpad.net
[17:10] <sinzui> I am going to remove maps from user and team pages. I think we will cherry pick this into production
[17:12] <micahg> ari-tczew: I would guess it's a google issue then
[17:13] <micahg> wait, it seems they might have added a new parameter (sensor)
[17:13] <sinzui> Google's SSL map server is broken, or more likely that data about paid clients is broken
[17:13] <micahg> sinzui: have you seen this: http://code.google.com/apis/maps/documentation/geocoding/#GeocodingRequests
[17:14] <nigelb> micahg: the sensor thing has been there for a looong time
[17:14] <nigelb> I think its from 1.3
[17:14] <micahg> nigelb: oh, ok, nm then :)
[17:14] <nigelb> err s/1.3/v#
[17:14] <nigelb> *V3
[17:14] <sinzui> I have not.
[17:14] <nigelb> Gah, typing fail
[17:43] <exarkun> 'The Google Maps API server rejected your request. The "client" parameter specified in the request is invalid.'
[17:55] <komputes> SPAM FOUND: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ntfs-3g/+bug/175503/comments/27
[17:56] <nigelb> komputes: could you open a question?
[17:56] <komputes> nigelb: sure, for which project?
[17:57] <sinzui> exarkun, see bug 624981
[17:57] <exarkun> Ah.  Thanks.
[17:58] <nigelb> komputes: LP would do :)
[17:59] <komputes> nigelb: done - https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/123016
[18:00] <nigelb> I hope one of the losas take a look soon :)
[18:31] <soren> It seems Launchpad's Google Maps API key expired or something.
[18:31] <soren> If I go to e.g. https://edge.launchpad.net/~openstack I get an error:
[18:32] <soren> Um... it's in Danish, so it'll probably not be very useful :)
[18:33] <soren> Short version: Google Maps server rejects the request saying the "client" parameter is invalid.
[18:37] <Ursinha> soren, there's a bug for it
[18:38] <Ursinha> (not sure I'm online now or if anyone else already replied you)
[18:40] <soren> Ursinha: I read you loud an clear, and no, noone responded yet.
[18:40] <soren> Ursinha: But ok, cool, if someone's on top of it, that's great.
[18:41] <beuno> soren, it's a known issue from Google
[18:41] <beuno> the bug has been reported and we're waiting on them
[18:41] <beuno> sinzui, are there any plans to cowboy a fix?
[18:42] <sinzui> beuno, I just confirmed I cannot trust the feature flag.
[18:42] <soren> beuno: Oh, wow.
[18:42] <sinzui> beuno, the issue is not just turning it of, it is being able to turn it on when google fixes its issue
[18:59] <daker> hello
[18:59] <daker> i have a problem
[20:45] <goundy> Hi
[20:45] <goundy> still no coming projects wiki support ?
[21:08] <lucidfox> How do I add a download to a Launchpad project?
[21:14] <james_w> lucidfox: you need to create a release first
[21:14] <lucidfox> james_w> How do I do that, assuming the project doesn't use bzr?
[21:14] <james_w> lucidfox: nothing to do with bzr here
[21:15] <lucidfox> Ah right
[21:16] <lucidfox> I see "Create release" no
[21:16] <lucidfox> * now
[21:27] <lucidfox> james_w> Found it, thanks, made a release. Is it possible to link different git branches to different bzr branches?
[21:27] <james_w> lucidfox: link in what way?
[21:27] <lucidfox> through the VCS import system
[21:28] <james_w> ah, I see
[21:28] <james_w> no, not yet
[21:28] <james_w> though work is in progress I think
[21:32] <lucidfox> james_w> also, it turns out that the git branch I'm trying to mirror is already linked to a different LP project
[21:35] <james_w> lucidfox: is your project more "correct" for it?
[21:36] <lucidfox> I'd assume so - the project is gtkpod, the git repository in question is gtkpod's upstream git, and the other project is gpod-sharp, which is now merged anyway
[21:36] <lucidfox> into libgpod
[21:36] <james_w> sounds about right
[21:36] <james_w> if you file a question on LP explaining that then someone should be able to move it over
[21:50] <vish> the lp fonts just switch to Ubuntu fonts?  or is that something my system is doing now?
[21:50]  * vish thought lp fonts were hard-coded
[22:00] <MichealH> The google Maps thing has broken for he
[22:01] <kklimonda> yeah
[22:01] <MichealH> Is it broken for everyone?
[22:01] <kklimonda> with a nasty error
[22:01] <Ursinha> MichealH, yes, it is
[22:01] <Ursinha> it's a known bug
[22:01] <MichealH> Ahh Okay
[22:01]  * Ursinha goes find the number
[22:02] <Ursinha> MichealH, bug 624981
[22:02] <MichealH> Okay
[22:02] <MichealH> Can I say the bug affects me?
[22:03] <Ursinha> MichealH, sure
[22:03] <MichealH> Done
[22:04] <aaronfournier> I'm having trouble posting a bug on Launchpad due to not being able to send a referer. I installed the Firefox add on that should let me send one, but it's still giving me an error :/
[22:06] <aaronfournier> Is there something I should be doing to be able to send one?
[22:12] <aaronfournier> I did look through the above links (and Google) and didn't find anything that could help. I'll search more if I have to, but I was hoping someone here could help me.
[22:22] <aaronfournier> Is there anyone who can help me with referer headers in Launchpad?
[22:31] <aaronfournier> Nevermind
[22:31] <aaronfournier> Fixed it...
[22:34] <pmatulis> i cannot view an attachment i uploaded to a (private) bug today ("file not found").  when i download it i can view it.  anyone?
[22:41] <aaronfournier> pmatulis, can you view attachments from public bugs?
[22:46] <pmatulis> aaronfournier: can you point me to one?  :)
[22:46] <pmatulis> aaronfournier: actually, yes, just found one
[22:46] <pmatulis> aaronfournier: now i'm trying to find another private one
[22:53] <aaronfournier> pmatulis: well I was looking around hoping to find a way to help you, but I'm not sure if I will be able  to, sorry :|
[23:34] <KruyKaze> hi everyone
[23:35] <KruyKaze> is there an easy way to take my lucid PPA's and use them on Maveric ?