[00:35] <jfi> hum, the 3 orange circles of the new default wallpaper is a bug?
[00:41] <coz_> jfi,  you mean this one ?  http://dl.dropbox.com/u/132551/Warmlights.jpg
[00:42] <jfi> coz_, no, this one: http://i.imgur.com/YCn7C.jpg
[00:42] <coz_> oooo
[00:42] <coz_> I hope that is a bug :)
[00:42] <jfi> I hope too, but I don't see any report on launchpad (yet?) :-)
[00:42] <coz_> jfi,  check in /usr/share/backgrounds and just open the image in image viewer to see if those ugly oranges are gone :)
[00:43] <jfi> At least I am not the only one: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/08/ubuntu-1010-default-wallpaper.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+d0od+%28Omg!+Ubuntu!%29
[00:43] <danyR> jfi: I so want to see a bug report on the default wallpaper :D
[00:43] <coz_> jfi,  do you want the original withouth the oranges?
[00:44] <coz_> mm actually lucid one has one orange dot
[00:45] <coz_> jfi,    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/132551/warty-final-ubuntu.png
[00:45] <jfi> coz_, well, I am usualy using a solid back background, so I don't really care about the default background but.....
[00:45] <coz_> jfi,   good thinking :)
[00:49] <jfi> well the lucid one does not hurt me, but the new one sounds like if a gimp newbie has quickly tested the brush button :)
[00:53] <FFForever> Hi ya
[00:53] <FFForever> is there an easy way to separate gnome/kde menu items?
[02:32] <Smoodo> How are things with 10.10?  Coming along pretty well?
[02:32] <IdleOne> X is broken for some
[02:32] <IdleOne> I would wait for release if I was you
[02:33] <Smoodo> I've been subscribed to Webupd8 and trying backports of some of the software included in 10.10.
[02:33] <Smoodo> Didn't know the state of things on the whole 10.10 enchilada
[02:35] <Smoodo> Thanks for the heads up IdleOne.
[02:36] <IdleOne> Smoodo: I am running maverick as my main OS and really haven't had any major issues I was not able to recover from.
[02:36] <IdleOne> but
[02:37] <IdleOne> I don't recommend it
[02:39] <charlie-tca> +1 for "don't recommend it" yet
[02:41] <IdleOne> Now if you got a spare computer and you don't mind it not booting more often then not..go for it.
[04:04] <MarkDude> Is there a reason that Ubuntu One keeps repeatedly crashing?
[04:04] <MarkDude> I mean it is dying like a few times every few minutes
[04:04]  * MarkDude is not even using it
[04:04] <MarkDude> How can I shut it off?
[04:05] <MarkDude> & does it relate to PolicyKit preventing a normal shutdown
[04:49] <Bridge|> hi all just upgraded to 10.10, prob ismy cpu may have turned off before the install completed cuz when I turned it back on after assuming it finished cuz it was off, the ubuntu 10.01 loading with dots appear and there now ubuntu graphic logo its just text then i hit a command promt promting me for user name and pass i login and just have a unix like interface its just one big terminal/console no GUI
[04:49] <Bridge|> i just upgraded from 10.04 all was working fine
[05:08] <Bridge|> anyone?
[05:21] <Ian_corne> Bridge|A: what do you want us to say
[05:22] <Ian_corne> If your computer turns of during a crucial update, it will break :p
[05:26] <MarkDude> Fedora is the only Distro I have ever used that *might* be able to survive an interupt like that
[05:27] <MarkDude> Its one the reasons their package manager take *forever* to do anything
[05:28] <MarkDude> Bridge|A, rescue what you can with a liveCD, if you have enough space use it to create another partition and copy your /home in to it
[05:28] <MarkDude> If your goal is to save bookmarks etc, stuff tht you can get later
[06:04] <DanaG> !find QDialog
[06:06] <DanaG> QDialog: No such file or directory
[06:13] <DanaG> ah, never mind... the part of the thing I really cared about, worked.
[06:48] <Ian_corne> heh, an update, clearing 2gb of space :D
[06:48] <Ian_corne> removing all my old kernels at once
[06:59] <Divecks> Hey all, are there glaring bugs in the latest (update-manager -d) build of Maverick? I'm installing it on my laptop (nothing important, just got it yesterday :D) Thanks! LD
[07:02] <MarkDude> Divecks, the biggest issue I have seen is policykit stops a normal shutdown
[07:02] <MarkDude> You just have to tel it to shut down anyway
[07:03] <Ian_corne> my NM crashes sometimes
[07:03] <Ian_corne> on my laptop
[07:03] <MarkDude> The tabs render funny on Chromium if you have a few of them open
[07:03] <MarkDude> Oh, Ubuntu one crashes every few minutes, and I am nt even using it
[07:05] <Divecks> Interesting.
[07:06] <Divecks> Well I don't really use Ubuntu One (not until it's much more polished anyway), but I do like using Chromium. Perhaps that bug has been fixed in a newer build? Does update-manager -d pull the latest daily build or an alpha snapshot?
[07:07] <Divecks> I don't think drivers should be a problem, this is a System76 laptop, so I'm going to assume the hardware should work pretty nice with Linux in general.
[07:10] <MarkDude> Right on which model?
[07:11] <Divecks> MarkDude, It's the new Lemur Ultrathin (lemu2)
[07:11]  * MarkDude works for Zareason, they have some cool hardware also
[07:11] <MarkDude> That machine looks cool
[07:11] <Divecks> Ahh but Zareason does things differently.
[07:12] <MarkDude> Even tho they are competitors of ours, we like them
[07:12] <Divecks> Of ours?
[07:12] <MarkDude> Its not a duel to the finish :)
[07:12] <Divecks> Forgive me :D
[07:12] <MarkDude> I am ZA's Community Manager
[07:12] <Divecks> Ah right I totally missed your comment about that.
[07:12] <MarkDude> np
[07:13] <Divecks> Yeah, and System76 doesn't diss you either. I was talking to them on the phone before I got my laptop, and they spoke well of you guys.
[07:13] <MarkDude> Of course, we have been pondering the best way for us to have an alliance
[07:14] <Divecks> You guys should really "get out there" more. Like system76 has a bunch of ads and (I think) a bigger name in the Ubuntu world.
[07:14] <Divecks> Especially with them being part of the Ubuntu Forums mainland.
[07:14] <MarkDude> When we deal with the manufacturers, its good to be able to havea solid FOSS friendly deal
[07:14] <Divecks> Right.
[07:15]  * MarkDude totally agrees. I am relatively new, we need more visibility
[07:15] <MarkDude> We have been working on closer relationships with those nice Canonical folks
[07:16] <Divecks> Another thing I should add, is your website needs some work. Not saying that the System76 website is fantastic, far from it, and lots of it is out of date, but I almost dismissed your website as one of those "squatter-spam" sites.
[07:16] <MarkDude> lol
[07:16] <Divecks> The layout feels very generic, if you know what I mean.
[07:16] <MarkDude> I do
[07:16] <Divecks> And it's a shame though,
[07:16] <Divecks> because you have a really impressive selection of computers.
[07:16] <MarkDude> sucks is another words that could be used
[07:16] <MarkDude> imho
[07:16] <Divecks> :D
[07:17] <MarkDude> Can I use your quote to show Cathy & Earl?
[07:17] <Divecks> So who's bigger, you or System76? You've got lots more laptops then them.
[07:17] <Divecks> Not sure who they are :P
[07:17] <MarkDude> I dont know, they are much bigger as far as nationwide awareness
[07:18] <MarkDude> We are more known internationally
[07:18] <MarkDude> Plus they just offer Ubuntu, we offer quite few Distros in addition
[07:18] <Divecks> I suspected. And checking you and sys76 out on youtube, I was really shocked to find literally one video for each of you basically.
[07:19] <Divecks> Oh I didn't know that.
[07:19] <Divecks> Well that would make sense since you guys do the hardware+linux vanilla support thing.
[07:20] <MarkDude> Be prepared for some videos from us soon
[07:21] <MarkDude> Did you get the SSD for your machine or  regular hard drive?
[07:21] <Divecks> :) I'd be really interested.
[07:22] <Divecks> MarkDude, For the longest time, I really thought I was going to get the SSD.
[07:22] <Divecks> But I called them up and they said that I could upgrade it later should I choose to (and that's a major plus, SSDs are MAD expensive, and theirs are no exception). Plus, I honestly don't think i'll need the speed.
[07:23] <Divecks> I'm a 9th grader and I'll (in theory =D) mainly be using this laptop for school work and stuff.
[07:23] <dart> after a update to usbmodeswitch yesterday, my card stopped working. The data card appears as a mass storage device but for only a second and then it disappears. Everything was working fine before the update.
[07:23] <MarkDude> At 1st I had one of them, I could reboot in less than 10 seconds
[07:24] <Divecks> I've got an iMac running Ubuntu that works very well, and that's what I do most of my "stuff" on.
[07:25] <Divecks> MarkDude, yeah, so I've heard. But really, the main slowdown on that machine, I think, is the processor/graphics. Even though it's dualcore AND hyperthreaded, with that new intel HD chipset, it still has like little lagspikes which I don't know if they are Ubuntu's problem or the gfx card.
[07:25] <Divecks> But I can play Nexuiz suprisingly well, and I can stream 1080p video via my SSHFS/SaMBa cloud thingy.
[07:26] <MarkDude> Good call, unless you need to do lots of reboots, the larger and more affordable drive is the best choice
[07:27] <MarkDude> The hyperthreading can cause some weird issues depending on what is happening with you ACPI
[07:27]  * MarkDude has a small bug I have been trying to solve for one of our machines
[07:27] <Divecks> MarkDude, Right. But actually, in preparation for soon-to-be SSD, I set up a DynDNS account a bajillion servers on my iMac.. So I essentially save all my work on the laptop and stream all my media from my iMac. It's cool stuff, even though nautilus gives me 300 bugs/hr working with samba shares.
[07:28] <Divecks> MarkDude, Interesting. Any odds that Maverick will clean that up?
[07:28] <MarkDude> After doing some research , I found that 76 is having a simlar issue
[07:28] <Divecks> Hmm. What *exactly* is the issue? :P
[07:28] <MarkDude> Meerkat solve most of everything
[07:29] <Divecks> Ah that's good. The papercuts project for Meerkat is looking REALLY sharp.
[07:29] <MarkDude> The matching of C states with your system calls
[07:30] <Divecks> MarkDude, Oh it's that low level. And what would be the side-effects?
[07:31] <MarkDude> C0 C2 C3 C4 can be not fully C0 in that Intel's chips can require *two* inputs to make it step down to proper state
[07:31] <Divecks> I see.
[07:33] <MarkDude> Under some conditions, it can make the the computer think it needs more power thn it does
[07:33]  * MarkDude has not seen the power issue yet, that part is just a theory
[07:34] <Divecks> And linux has enough problems powermanaging as it is lol
[07:34] <MarkDude> Exactly, see if you can try other graphics options
[07:35] <vish> booooot you crazy iso...! dont be afraid its a VM!
[07:35] <Divecks> MarkDude, What do you mean?
[07:36] <MarkDude> what driver is your machine using?
[07:36] <Divecks> MarkDude, I really don't know to be honest. It ships with System76's custom driver pack preinstalled, and nothing shows up under hardware drivers.
[07:37] <MarkDude> Oh, I forgot they use custom drivers
[07:39] <MarkDude> sudo lspci -vnn
[07:39] <MarkDude> If you use that in terminal near the top will be the driver used
[07:42] <Divecks> Okay so it finished installing and I've rebooted it.
[07:42] <Divecks> However,
[07:42] <Divecks> It can't connect to my wireless interestingly enough
[07:42] <Divecks> though it sees the name
[07:42] <MarkDude> Do that lspci command
[07:43] <MarkDude> See what it says for your wireless driver
[07:43] <MarkDude> With your other machine google for that card & options
[07:44]  * MarkDude guesses you have Intel based wireless
[07:44] <Divecks> I think so.
[07:44] <MarkDude> and that your issues lie in its ability to not talk to your router
[07:44] <Divecks> can't see anything in lspci really.
[07:44] <Divecks> perhaps a fresh install of maverick would be better?
[07:44] <Divecks> though I'd lose the System76 driver.
[07:45] <Divecks> Not sure how much that's actually doing for me though.
[07:46] <MarkDude> Uh, without knowing if it is customized , I would not do that
[07:46] <MarkDude> try it somewhere else if you can
[07:47] <MarkDude> That is part of the reason that my bosses decided to make sure everythng we sell is upstream compatible
[07:47] <Divecks> Yup policykit DOES prevent reboot.
[07:47] <Divecks> Humph.
[07:48] <MarkDude> But, the downside to that is that 76 has their fingerprint reader working, unlike ours, they have a beta driver they did
[07:48] <MarkDude> Do they have an IRC channel?
[07:48] <Divecks> Don't think so.
[07:48] <Divecks> But they're active on facebook, twitter, and the forums.
[07:49] <Divecks> I think 10.04 is better to stick with for now.
[07:50] <Divecks> Interesting.
[07:50] <Divecks> A reboot fixed the wifi
[07:50] <MarkDude> So you have no connection issues with your machine before?
[07:50] <Divecks> None before Maverick
[07:50] <MarkDude> Check again just using lspci
[07:50] <Divecks> and apparently none now.
[07:50] <Divecks> ah i got it
[07:51] <Divecks> Intel corp Centrino Advanced-N 6200 (rev 35)
[07:51] <Divecks> that;s actually an upgrade from the base config.
[07:51] <Divecks> for like 10 bucks more, it's a much better card.
[07:51] <MarkDude> Good call
[07:52] <MarkDude> Good deal also
[07:52] <Divecks> Ubuntu REALLY needs to work with Gnome upstream on Appearance Prefs.
[07:52] <Divecks> There's some major leak or something in the Background tab
[07:52] <Divecks> takes like
[07:52] <Divecks> 10 seconds to query background.
[07:53] <Divecks> Chrome seems to render multiple tabs OK
[07:54] <Divecks> but i'm using a bleeding edge build from a PPA
[07:54] <Divecks> (which, by the way, is awesome.. nice GTK+ integration improvements)
[07:56] <MarkDude> iwlagn is your driver
[07:56] <Divecks> 1 sec, i'm switching to IRC on my laptop
[07:56] <Divecks> exit
[07:57] <Divecks> back
[07:59] <MarkDude> That iwlagn driver is weird
[08:00] <Divecks> Apparently.
[08:00] <MarkDude> I have not been happy with it
[08:00] <MarkDude> I have it on my machine also
[08:00] <Divecks> But its now working flawlessly.
[08:00] <MarkDude> Thats it , its not reproducible
[08:01] <MarkDude> I put an Atheros card in mine to see if I had any errors, NONE
[08:01] <MarkDude> Problem was the range was horrible
[08:02] <MarkDude> Would work at less then half of the range
[08:03] <MarkDude> Lenovo machines are producing a similar issue with their wireless
[08:03] <MarkDude> If it happens again save your relevant logs
[08:04] <MarkDude> Every papercut like this could turn away potential new users, I dont like that, I should get in touch with 76 next week
[08:06] <MarkDude> Im glad it works now. Try administration >> System Testing  and see what it says before you decide to go with Meerkat
[08:09] <MarkDude> And remember that the Intel graphics driver can say that you have more resolutions available than are actually usable,
[08:25] <dart> usb-modeswitch has stopped working after an update yesterday and i cant downgrade....someone else facing this problem?
[08:45] <hosoka> hello
[08:45] <hosoka> when updating the test version it gives me a message Package dependencies cannot be resolved due to libgirepository1.0-1
[08:46] <hosoka> when I upgrade that libgirepository1.0-1 it removes the whole ubuntu-desktop
[09:40] <jca1981> can you help me? im getting this when i try to install virtualbox via apt get "Depends: libc6 (>= 2.11) but 2.10.1-0ubuntu17 is to be installed"
[09:47] <yofel> jca1981: erm, which release are you using? libc6 2.10 is from karmic
[10:52] <bogdomania>  cheers guys.. no luck on the forums so i`ll ask here: after installing 10.10 and upgrade it, i don`t have the external usb drives(flash drive in vfat) auto-mounted.. it is listed with lsusb. hal is installed, but hal-device-manager is not available in repos.. any ideas?
[11:06] <vega_> i thought hal was deprecated since 10.04
[11:07] <vega_> that's why it is not in the repos..
[11:10] <vega_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Halsectomy
[11:11] <bogdomania> yeah, well i don`t know what changed in ubuntu, since i didn`t use it for a long time.. i was switching from SuSE... but still, in 10.04, the automount feature was functional..
[11:12] <vega_> well, 10.10 is not even beta
[11:13] <bogdomania> btw.. the kernel was upgraded too.. with the prior version, automount was working fine.. damn..
[11:13] <bogdomania> i just remembered :D
[12:38] <nigelb> Is there a known issue with d-i? I find that alternate Cd for lucid 10.04.1 doesn't work.
[12:38] <nigelb> it would be nice to know if it was something at my end only.
[12:44] <gnomefreak> nigelb: please see #ubuntu for your issue
[14:18] <amikrop> Hi, is there an available update for fixing this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/consolekit/+bug/544139 ?
[14:19] <amikrop> sorry, wrong channel
[14:22] <jfi> Hello, I have a compatibility issue concerning ApplicationIndicator and maverick/lucid that I reproduce with a small C code, can someone confirm it before I open a bug? It requires gcc and some dev packages
[14:22] <jfi> the C code can retrieved from: http://pastebin.com/8PxKgYTB
[14:23] <jfi> to compile it: gcc `pkg-config --cflags --libs gtk+-2.0 appindicator-0.1` main.c
[14:24] <jfi> issue is that the icon does not change when you click on the menu of application indicator, nok with mavercik, ok with lucid
[14:58] <vish> does anyone know the bug# for Ubuntu not booting in VM?
[14:59] <vish> err, Maverick* not booting
[14:59] <penguin42> vish: I have 2 mavericks booting in KVM
[15:00] <vish> penguin42: tried with the latest iso? i mean they boot if already installed , but not if we want to boot and install a fresh one
[15:01] <penguin42> oh, no I haven't tried an iso for a while
[15:03] <vish> yeah , i made the mistake of deleting the old VM before installing a new one, and i cant create a new install :(
[15:04] <penguin42> how far does it get?
[15:05] <vish> well , it sometimes goes until i hit 'install now' , and then just hangs. or sometimes it just hangs before that too
[15:05] <vish> i heard on -devel that it is a known bug, but cant seem to find it..
[15:06] <kklimonda> damn, ubuntu is getting crashy lately :/
[15:09] <gnomefreak> i have had a few crashes since breezy devel cycle but it was X and only maybe 2 times in all that time
[15:10] <gnomefreak> vish: i should have it in email but seems thunderbird cant connect to that accout or 4 others
[15:10] <gnomefreak> account
[15:11] <kklimonda> gnomefreak: well, by Ubuntu I actually mean everything - ubuntu and applications :)
[15:11] <gnomefreak> oh
[15:11] <vish> TB~!!
[15:11] <kklimonda> but I've also had a few freezes in the last week or so related to nouveau
[15:12] <gnomefreak> we should be posting tb 3.2 and 3.3 IIRC :)
[15:12] <vish> is anyone running on btrfs? especially their /home?
[15:12] <kklimonda> poke bugabundo once he's online
[15:12] <gnomefreak> kklimonda: nautilus + nouveau?
[15:12]  * vish  looking reinstall and to migrate /home to btrfs..
[15:12] <gnomefreak> is nvidia working on upgrade from Lucid?
[15:13] <gnomefreak> or is it still not being held back?
[15:13] <kklimonda> gnomefreak: I think the freeze is related to firefox
[15:13] <kklimonda> I can't, for example, browse google images at all
[15:13] <kklimonda> I can barely do ctrl+w when I open it
[15:13] <gnomefreak> kklimonda: happens but for me 4.0 freezes sometimes 3.6 not so much
[15:13] <kklimonda> and sometimes while I'm browsing  random pages I get a full freeze and nothing helps - I can only do REISUB to reboot
[15:14] <kklimonda> (sysrq+k doesn't work :/)
[15:14] <gnomefreak> thats new
[15:14] <kklimonda> yeah, I should boot with debug and report it
[15:14] <kklimonda> but the problem is it's rando
[15:14] <kklimonda> m
[15:15] <kklimonda> hmm.. what's the status of xen inclusion into mainline?
[15:15] <gnomefreak> not sure
[15:19] <yofel> vish: tried if ubuntu-vm-builder works?
[15:20] <vish> yofel: hmm , nope.. never tried that before..
[15:20]  * vish searches for instructions
[15:21] <yofel> vish: you'll get instructions with 'ubuntu-vm-builder kvm --help'
[15:22] <vish> yofel: ah.. thanks.
[15:54] <penguin42> ah great, the set gfxmode stuff has finally gone; now the only grub change I have to make is the no intremap
[15:56] <DrHalan> oh ambience beta finally made it into main...
[15:57] <penguin42> anyone else seeing ~30 second boot pause just after loading the Radeon module?
[15:58] <patdk-wk> nope
[15:58] <patdk-wk> I have no radeon's though
[15:58] <Pici> penguin42: I can check after I get home from work.
[16:51] <penguin42> anyone seen gnome-terminals not starting up with previous session position/size/instances?
[17:56] <Divecks> MarkDude, You there?
[17:57] <MarkDude> Yes, how goes it Divecks ?
[17:57]  * MarkDude is waiting in a DR office :)
[17:57] <Divecks> MarkDude, Not so good. I wake up today to find my laptop's monitor FULL of garbage
[17:57] <christian_lappy> guys, mx xserver crsashes at the first login
[17:57] <christian_lappy> secong login works
[17:57] <Divecks> MarkDude, And it's a hardware thing, because the garbage is persistant at BIOS.
[17:58] <Divecks> MarkDude, Luckily Sys76 didn't give me any hassle about it and a prepaid shipping label is on its way to me.
[17:58] <MarkDude> Wow, have you tried another live CD?
[17:58] <penguin42> christian_lappy: When it starts up OK the 2nd time if you're lucky there will be a log in v/ar/log/Xorg.0.log.old
[17:58] <MarkDude> Hm, make sure to remind them to save the logs if they can
[17:59] <Divecks> MarkDude, No it's def.  not a problem like that. 10.04, maverick, or a livecd, the problem is still there. I know it can't be a software thing because it happens before Ubuntu even loads.
[17:59] <MarkDude> On the off chance Meerkat did something to it,
[17:59] <christian_lappy> penguin42: yep, it is :)
[17:59] <Divecks> MarkDude, I think their plan is to try and replace the needed parts, not wipe it.
[17:59] <MarkDude> Was it doing it before the upgrade?
[18:00] <christian_lappy> penguin42: Backtrace:
[18:00] <christian_lappy> [    63.708] 0: /usr/bin/X (xorg_backtrace+0x3b) [0x80e83bb]
[18:00] <MarkDude> Very cool, I have heard they are pretty good about working on stuff
[18:00] <penguin42> christian_lappy: Put it in a pastebin
[18:00] <christian_lappy> penguin42: the complete log ?
[18:00] <penguin42> christian_lappy: Yeh or put it in a bug report and then point us at that
[18:01] <MarkDude> Isnt it nice to deal with a company that does not make you spend hours & hours arguing over whether yu have an issue or not:)
[18:01] <Divecks> MarkDude, So I should hope :D And I'm 99.999% sure meerkat had nothing to do with it.
[18:01] <Divecks> MarkDude, Yeah, like Apple in recent years.
[18:01] <MarkDude> Nothing against Dell, but I have heard horror stories about people having to argue with them
[18:01] <Divecks> Yeah so i've heard.
[18:02] <Divecks> I will say though, that Chrome works AMAZING under Maverick.
[18:02] <Divecks> Divecks it opens before my dock icon even starts to jump lol.
[18:02] <Divecks> But this is a daily build.
[18:02]  * MarkDude still thinks it is great Dell offers Linux, but, the customer support leaves much to be desired
[18:02] <Divecks> MarkDude, Do they? I thought their linux lineup was more  of a "showoff" type thing.
[18:03] <MarkDude> Yep, Meerkat connects via wireless real quick
[18:03] <Divecks> MarkDude, Once the beta hits, I think I'm going to upgrade my main computer. You don't think the beta will have that policy kit problem, do you?
[18:03] <MarkDude> That may be , I still think anytime Linux gets even a token effort, it helps at least with *awareness*
[18:04] <penguin42> their kit gets used a lot for server sutff
[18:04] <Divecks> Yes totally.
[18:06] <MarkDude> That policykit is just a small roadbump
[18:06] <MarkDude> Its not really an issue, unless you have something that requires it
[18:08] <christian_lappy> penguin42: #625439
[18:08] <penguin42> bug 625439
[18:08] <Divecks> MarkDude, I don't actually even really know what PolicyKit does, exactly.
[18:09] <penguin42> christian_lappy: Hmm htat backtrace is unusually sparse
[18:11] <christian_lappy> penguin42: yup
[18:12] <penguin42> christian_lappy: You mgith try installing xserver-xorg-dbgsym to get a bit more info from the debug
[18:12] <penguin42> and you're on common hardware
[18:12] <christian_lappy> yup
[18:13] <christian_lappy> laptop with intel igp
[18:13] <christian_lappy> lenove thinkpad
[18:13] <christian_lappy> worked until yesterdays updates or so
[18:13] <MarkDude> Authentication
[18:13] <christian_lappy> x61s
[18:14] <christian_lappy> btw, how can i test thre new ubuntu font ?
[18:14] <MarkDude> Divecks, but since the bug happens on shutdown, I am guessing that authentication then will not cause issues
[18:14]  * MarkDude is leaving the Dr officce
[18:14] <IdleOne> christian_lappy: it is still in beta testing, not open to public yet
[18:15]  * MarkDude will be back for commute & once I am at the shop
[18:15] <christian_lappy> IdleOne: oh..so no way to get ?
[18:15] <IdleOne> nope
[18:16] <christian_lappy> damn
[18:30] <penguin42> hmm Maverick seems to have gained a bug in the last week or two where I ahve to unlock my crypted drive twice for it to mount
[20:26] <siegie> I have think adblock in rekonq doesn't work, although it's enabled in the config menu
[20:31] <lontra> hi, i have a couple of quick questions re: maverick. 1) is the intel driver 'better' in maverick than lucid? i occassionally get screen flickering. 2) are the daily ISOs installable. 3) has maverick been relatively stable? I'm use to running debian sid so i can handle instability but prefer having some stability
[20:33] <jfi> lontra, maverick is alpha, so not stable
[20:34] <lontra> jfi: well yes i know that it's stable because it hasn't been released and is in development
[20:34] <lontra> jfi: i wonder if it'll be an improvement for me regardless because of the intel issues
[20:36] <penguin42> lontra: Still quite a few issues
[20:36] <jfi> maybe the best way to know it, is that you give it a try with a livecd, stability may depend on your hardware
[20:37] <lontra> ok i'll take a look ... i've got everything backed up, i have some time, i can always install maverick, if it doesn't pan out well i can, reinstall lucid
[20:37] <ali1234> about that warning in the topic... is it the usual binary driver problems? what hardware does it apply to?
[20:37] <jfi> ali1234, nvidia is broken (at least for me)
[20:37] <ali1234> nvidia always breaks :)
[20:38] <jfi> it works with a ABIIgnore in the xorg.conf but that's not very convenient:)
[20:43] <jfi> lontra, if you can, I think that it is better to install maverick aside lucid and not instead. It will allow you to switch to lucid if there is an update which break too much the system. In alpha stage, there is often updates which break the system and is fixed in the coming hours/days
[21:32] <Shadowww> hi there, on ubuntu 10.10 with latest drivers nvidia kernel breaks and complains about ABI revision. any way to fix this? maybe another nvidia driver?
[21:36] <Shadowww> nvm, just noticed topic.
[21:37] <ali1234> apparently it works if you put ABIIgnore in xorg.conf
[21:37] <ali1234> but this happens every time with the new xorg
[21:37] <ali1234> takes a while for the binary only drivers to catch up
[21:38] <urthmover> is there a way to dist-upgrade to maverick?  Is it smarter to do a fresh install though?
[21:39] <ali1234> urthmover: sudo update-manager -d usually does it
[21:39] <ali1234> the -d is for development version
[21:39] <urthmover> ahh  genius   thanks ali1234
[21:39] <ali1234> can't tell you which way is best i didn't try it yet
[21:40] <ali1234> they're both likely to make your computer catch fire
[21:40] <Shadowww> another question.. vmware workstation 7.1.1's vmmon doesn't builds on kernel 2.6.35-19 complaining about 'error: implicit declaration of function iommu-unmap-range'
[21:40] <Shadowww> is this known bug or it's a problem with my configuration?
[21:40] <ali1234> the vmware modules have to build against the kernel headers, they probably changed
[21:40] <ali1234> this often happens with 3rd party kernel modules
[21:41] <Shadowww> so I have to wait for patch from vmware?
[21:41] <ali1234> there's probably already a patch on vmware forums or something
[21:41] <ali1234> yeah or go in and patch it yourself, it is probably quite easy
[21:41] <ali1234> they probably just renamed some function
[21:41] <Shadowww> will try, thanks :)
[21:41] <ali1234> that's what usually happens
[21:41] <ali1234> renamed in linux that is
 hi there, on ubuntu 10.10 with latest drivers nvidia kernel breaks and complains about ABI revision. any way to fix this? maybe another nvidia driver?
[21:41] <jfi> Shadowww, add this in xorg.conf:
[21:41] <jfi> Section "ServerFlags"
[21:41] <jfi>     Option         "IgnoreABI" "True"
[21:41] <jfi> EndSection
[21:41] <ali1234> i have had this problem with virtualbox and nvidia dkms stuff when using newer kernels
[21:42] <ali1234> it was always quite easy to fix
[21:50] <burner> help... my nvidia is all b0rked and i only get X through nv!!!!
[21:50] <penguin42> heck this needs topicing
[21:51] <penguin42> burner: Read the last 10 or 20 lines - it's just explained the same problem
[21:51] <burner> lol
[21:51] <jfi> burner, you can test by adding this in xorg.conf:
 Section "ServerFlags"
     Option         "IgnoreABI" "True"
 EndSection
[21:51] <burner> rad
[21:51] <jfi> rad?
[21:51] <burner> i mean, thanks mucho
[21:52] <vish> is anyone able to notice the odd fonts in launchpad or is it just me!?
[21:52] <DanaG> fsck: Error 2 while executing fsck.btrfs for /dev/sde1
[21:52] <DanaG> fsck.btrfs: not found
[21:53] <burner> w00t, back to 3D compizy goodness, thanks again!
[21:53] <charlie-tca> vish: isn't it showing whatever is selected as fonts in the browser?
[21:54] <vish> charlie-tca: nah , actually lp fonts are hard-coded
[21:54] <vish> they had something else earlier
[21:54] <vish> there was a bug about it too.
[21:54] <charlie-tca> They are?
[21:54] <vish> yeah , they seem to have just switched to Ubuntu fonts..
[21:55]  * vish looks for bugs
[21:55] <vish> bug*
[21:55] <charlie-tca> I see UbuntuBeta on almost everything there
[21:56] <BUGabundo> me what ?
[21:56] <vish> yeah , they seem to have just switched and the comments are using HUGE fonts! :/
[21:57] <charlie-tca> BUGabundo: about the antenna - I am sorry, but I really needed it. Mine was stolen and I needed the replacement. Thanks for understanding... ;-)
[21:57]  * BUGabundo /kicks charlie-tca where it hurts
[22:00] <charlie-tca> hmm, well, at least I can read the comments now...
[22:00] <BUGabundo> what comments ?
[22:01] <sebsebseb> Hi
[22:02] <vish> charlie-tca: yay! its back to normal! :D
[22:02] <charlie-tca> oh
[22:02] <vish> looks like we caught them in the middle of testing ;p
[22:02] <charlie-tca> So I won't be able to read it easily again?
[22:03] <charlie-tca> BUGabundo: launchpad
[22:05] <BUGabundo> ahh
[22:13] <vish> charlie-tca: odd! i cant find the bug about lp fonts being hard-coded! :(  sladen was the one who had filed it, but the beta fonts project name has changed and it seems lost.. :S
[22:14] <kklimonda> hihi, the funny bug with google maps is a good example why including a 3rd party code you have no control over into your code is stupid..
[22:15] <MarkDude> penguin42, is there a pastebin of the common problem?
[22:15] <vish> lp and its blackholes! , change a project name and all the closed bugs are lost :/
[22:15] <penguin42> MarkDude: Don't know, I'm not an Nvidia user - I just lurk here
[22:15] <MarkDude> Its the X fix - correct?
[22:16]  * vish points finger a penguin42 and yells stranger danger! :p
[22:16] <vish> at
[22:16] <penguin42> eep!
[22:17]  * MarkDude is at a bug jam right now, I just wanted to share info with the folks here :)
[22:27] <ZykoticK9> am i alone in feeling the new default wallpaper is a fail?
[22:27] <charlie-tca> too early to tell.
[22:28] <MarkDude> ZykoticK9, its not really good, but the art deadlines are not yet
[22:28] <BUGabundo> which one is it ?
[22:28] <ZykoticK9> MarkDude, well I hope that it's changed then ;)
[22:28]  * MarkDude also
[22:35] <charlie-tca> BUGabundo: purple with orange dots
[22:36] <charlie-tca> Not the prettiest one I have seen, but if you like those colors ...
[22:47] <ZykoticK9> with the new Volume control have others lost the album art from Rhythmbox recently?
[22:50] <jfi> I have lost it even in rhythmbox since the upgrade to maverick
[22:51] <ZykoticK9> jfi, rhythmbox and even the ?popups have the album art - it's only missing from volume for me?  i don't see it as a bug for indicator-sound
[22:53] <jfi> popup?
[22:54] <ZykoticK9> jfi, the thing in the top right corner that appears?  sorry don't remember what they are called.
[22:54] <jfi> hum
[22:54] <jfi> I have just a panel in bottom left corner of rythmn with cover art which is always the default one for all my soungs
[22:55] <jfi> with lucid it works
[22:55] <jfi> maybe a configuration issue on my side, I have never search the reason
[23:05] <BUGabundo> what was that parameter to place on boot/installer, when screen went black ?
[23:05] <patdk-wk> after grub?
[23:06] <patdk-wk> there are two ways, depends on what did it, linux kernel option, nomodeset
[23:06] <patdk-wk> or grub command, set gfxmode=text
[23:06] <penguin42> those are separate things
[23:06] <penguin42> and the set gfxmode one has just gone away in the latest grub/kernel/something
[23:08] <BUGabundo> you know, all those users that couldn't boot the installer
[23:08] <BUGabundo> just got one, and I can't remmember how we did
[23:08] <BUGabundo> lucid was soooo long ago
[23:08] <penguin42> oh, the set gfxmode is a maverick alpha only thing
[23:08] <yofel> noapic? I can't really remember it either
[23:09] <penguin42> nomodeset as patdk-wk is always a good one; especially for Radeon HD5xxx series on Lucid
[23:09] <patdk-wk> oh, lucid, nomodeset
[23:10] <BUGabundo> no yofel, not that one
[23:10] <BUGabundo> ok,
[23:10] <BUGabundo> will try nomodeset
[23:10] <patdk-wk> it fixs the old intel video card thing
[23:10] <patdk-wk> atleast for my older servers :)
[23:24] <KruyKaze> How do i migrate my favorite PPA's from lucid to Mav?
[23:25] <jjcm> Hey bestest of friends,
[23:25] <KruyKaze> hey
[23:25] <jjcm> So just did an upgrade to 10.10a3,
[23:26] <jjcm> using nvidea drivers, which after reading online I've found that they fail if you bump up
[23:26] <KruyKaze> bump up?
[23:26] <jjcm> I take it a switch to nouveau will fix it, but we'
[23:27] <jjcm> ll see here in a sec
[23:27] <KruyKaze> I love nouveau
[23:27] <jjcm> KruyKaze: bump up to 10.10
[23:27] <ZykoticK9> jjcm, you need a 256 version kernel and to add a couple lines to xorg
[23:27] <KruyKaze> if you don't use 3D
[23:27] <ZykoticK9> jjcm, see bug 616023 for details
[23:28] <jjcm> ZykoticK9: Alreayd have it up :D
[23:28] <jjcm> Good to hear that I'm on the right track
[23:28] <jjcm> But first, lunch and I gotta figure out why my computer smells like burning plastic now
[23:29] <ZykoticK9> jjcm, sorry didn't mean "kernel" above but "driver"
[23:29] <jjcm> ZykoticK9: I figured
[23:29] <charlie-tca> hmm, last one I had smelled like burning plastic spit fire out the back to go with the smell
[23:30] <jjcm> charlie-tca: Bonus points for style.
[23:32] <KruyKaze> can any one tell me how to easily use my ppa's on a new ubuntu rellease?
[23:33] <charlie-tca> Maybe #launchpad would give more results on that?
[23:33] <KruyKaze> oh thanks
[23:49] <Shadowww> hi there. What section of xorg.conf I should add Option "IgnoreABI" "True" to? Device, ServerFlags or ServerLayout?
[23:50] <ali1234> serverflags
[23:50] <Shadowww> thanks ali1234 :)
[23:51] <jfi> Section "ServerFlags"
[23:51] <jfi>     Option         "IgnoreABI" "True"
[23:51] <jfi> EndSection
[23:51] <ali1234> too slow :)
[23:51] <jfi> ali1234, yes, but mine is complete! :-)
[23:51] <ali1234> well, he'll be back if it doesn't work :)
[23:52] <jfi> depends whether he has a text irc client:)
[23:54] <ali1234> i'm sure he can just back out the change