[00:00] ok knome [00:00] cheers [00:00] contributing to ubuntu is possible, but as thorwil said, canonical is putting a lot of money in design, so they'll probably want to use what they pay for ;) [00:00] of course, there are open positions now and then... [00:02] sure, I guess if they're pouring money into it then they will want to get thier money's worth === ian_brasil__ is now known as ian_brasil [14:14] hey, can circle of friends in logo be in any way modified? for example adding a national flag into it? [14:19] kklimonda: if its not meant for 'Ubuntu' , but rather for a LoCo , yes.. [14:24] vish: hmm.. how to distinct one from the other? [14:25] vish: by LoCo you mean all sites that are related to our local community and by Ubuntu... sites not related to the community? ;) [14:26] vish: so for http://www.dell.com/ubuntu you can't modify logo in any way but in the LoCo case you can.. add some local flavour? :) [14:26] vish: do the rest of guidelines are still in effect? [14:28] kklimonda: well , does the symbol refer to the Ubuntu OS , then guidelines apply , if not.. we can go crazy as we please ;) [14:29] kklimonda: yeah , like the dell example they have to use the Ubuntu logo as prescribed :) === ian_brasil_ is now known as ian_brasil [17:20] was thinking about incorporating Ubuntu somehow into my artpiece: http://img683.imageshack.us/f/lostw.png/ [17:20] vish: thorwil: how does the tip of a paint brush (just the bristles/small part of the handle showing) blending through like, maybe 2 or 3 different colors of paint splatters sound for a new gimp app watermark? in color for the toolbox, greyscale (so its recolorable) in the image windows. instead of googley eyes that have shit to do with image editing/composition [17:23] hrm! [17:23] * vish tries to comprehend that^ [17:25] * darkmatter is working on a gimp theme (icons and gtkrc) along with some new defaults, mainly for personal use, but thought I'd drop it off in a few suggestion boxes for kicks [17:27] gonna keep the utility windows separate but de-wharf them (they are huge by default after all). turn the toolbox into an actual toolbox (have only the most essential tools shown by default) blah blah [17:28] something more beginner friendly and polished feeling [17:28] darkmatter: how about first changing the name? :) [17:28] I've seen users (mostly clients) almost shit a brick the first time they crack the beast open [17:28] vish: that too :P [17:30] fun name or elegant name? we could just rebrand it as Pixel Pusher :P [17:30] hehe! [17:31] fork/branch it in a non retarded way with gimp proper and be nice and friendly and sharing with the gimp devs. you know. since it takes them 10+ years to implement interface bugs and the like :D [17:32] still compatible way* [17:37] vish: I actual kinda think Pixel Pusher _would_ be fitting (reasoning(s) are obvious enough). but anything is more fitting than The GIMP [17:38] yeah , the Double P ! [17:45] it think it should be renamed into something less plurivalent. like Rubbersuit or Limp :) [17:46] darkmatter: you could as well dance to describe music. gotta see that [17:54] thorwil: bah. [17:58] how about a branch/fork name "Inosukliekdad" then? :P [17:59] thorwil: How goes it thor? Greets to the rest of the droogs. [18:00] troy_s: heh, excellent timing, as i'm gone for dinner now :) [18:02] thorwil: It's YOUR timezone [18:03] thorwil: NOT MINE [18:03] thorwil: Got it pal? [18:48] vish: the actual root of my reasoning is thus. I have some design ideas for a graphics editor and would actually like to test them out (as many as I can at least, some will have to remain conceptual for the time being). the easiest way to do that in a reasonable fashion is to reconfigure an existing app, and the only one flexible enough in terms of ui setting we have is the gimp. that can be either a bane or a boon, depending on how y [18:49] I mean. I _could_ just do some .ui files, but you can't actually interact with those [19:49] troy_s: actually no [19:51] thorwil: Lol. [19:51] thorwil: How are things? [19:52] troy_s: fine. payed project running well, will have some time during the weekend to take on other stuff. and you? [19:58] nice to have online translation: http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fubuntulife.wordpress.com%2F2010%2F08%2F02%2Fnuevo-logo-para-full-circle%2F&sl=es&tl=en [20:37] thorwil: That's one of the reasons I use Chrome. It integrates into translate. [20:37] thorwil: I wish cm would get solved. [20:38] cm? [20:38] thorwil: Color management [20:38] thorwil: Sadly lacking in it currently (in Linux and suffers with various pipeline design mistakes on other platforms) [20:39] thorwil: What face is that full circle? [20:39] (5/6) [20:40] your creation? [20:41] troy_s: custom, yes. i had to see once again how geometric constructions tend to end up somewhat brutal :) [20:43] the new Full Circle logo will be based on the middle one on http://thorwil.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/full_circle_magazine_set_03.png [20:43] ready, but under wraps until then [20:44] thorwil: Brutal is probably an execution thing. The first e in your samples for example, isn't necessarily brutal or otherwise. [20:44] thorwil: Which leads me to the idea that it is probably the collection as a whole and less the individual parts. Might have gotten somewhere just focusing on the type... [20:45] thorwil: The 'safe' choice isn't really an awful one anyways. [20:45] thorwil: Although that tagline is more of a bookline. [20:46] i shortened it later on, but don't know if the magazine will follow there [20:47] thorwil: There is likely a better phrasing that turns it into a proper tag. Two lines is hardly a tagline. [20:59] thorwil: Have you seen the new alternate wallpaper selections (contest driven rubbish aside - another topic worth looking at)? [21:00] troy_s: yes. i also saw and still try to forget the new default (hoping it's temporary) [21:02] thorwil: Oh it's just a 'test' I'm sure ;) [21:02] thorwil: I'm very impressed with the selection. Whoever did it deserves kudos. [21:03] troy_s: yes, at least 2 steps up from last time [21:03] thorwil: It is the most cohesive set I have seen yet in Ubuntu proper. Solid photography and a very well planned mixture of tone / subject. [21:03] thorwil: Very impressed. [21:04] though this one would drive me insane on my desktop: http://lh4.ggpht.com/_FJH0hYZmVtc/THbTNrSvERI/AAAAAAAAJaY/4x3nHIE4fTk/s1600-h/Blue_box_number_2_by_orb9220%5B3%5D.jpg [21:05] http://lh3.ggpht.com/_FJH0hYZmVtc/THbTdUGPaFI/AAAAAAAAJbk/5veZoNIyrl4/s1600-h/Primer_Amanecer_2010_by_letoloke%5B3%5D.jpg makes me wonder if the bend shouldn't be in the other direction or be eliminated to have a flat line [21:07] thorwil: Maybe. I find the second rather... meh, but it has a pretty solid purpose in the set. [21:08] thorwil: I tend to view those as a mise-en-scene - a contextual set. [21:08] thorwil: And in that light, it has a pretty darn compelling reason to be there. It is a variant on subject _and_ fills a tonal need (to break up the monotony) [21:08] thorwil: I suppose there is a question 'how to improve the set' which is a cool question to ask. [21:09] thorwil: Because it isn't an easy answer. Do you try to hint at an overarching thematic (and yeah, the vast bulk of the contribution would be probably hammer-over-head heavy)? Or is there something more clever to play with there? [21:09] well, one could add race stripes and a spoiler to http://lh6.ggpht.com/_FJH0hYZmVtc/THbTMCUzGGI/AAAAAAAAJaQ/ROgmSmbAzsQ/s1600-h/Aeg_by_Tauno_Erik%5B2%5D.jpg [21:09] thorwil: It would be a lovely thing to actually _discuss_ with a group of clever minds really. [21:09] LOL [21:09] thorwil: He's cute enough without racing stripes. [21:10] thorwil: It's a great set. I applaud whoever issued the selections. [21:10] thorwil: No complaints there. The default wallpaper on the other hand... [21:10] i have to make such a comment right before you mention "to actually discuss" and "group of clever minds"! [21:11] thorwil: Nothing short of a monumental misstep and ridiculous design context. I can't exactly fault someone for sad execution as there isn't anything being executed. Well... maybe the person that uttered the mandate to deliver that piece of work. [21:11] lol [21:14] good night! :)