[03:16] <micahg> drew212: poeple post lots of crazy things on forums :)
[03:16] <drew212> lol, true true
[03:17] <drew212> it looked legit, to me
[03:17] <drew212> i'm still having trouble finding packages, mainly the correct ones
[03:17] <micahg> drew212: ask :)
[03:18] <drew212> did i have the right problem though?
[03:20] <micahg> drew212: it's not true either what the poster posted...
[03:20] <micahg> there was a symlink missing but I thought that was fixed
[03:20] <micahg> s/poster/reporter
[03:20] <drew212> alright
[03:21] <micahg> also, unless the reporter enabled the partner repo, they'd have the old java plugin from karmic still
[03:22] <drew212> i noticed he didn't have any IcedTeaPlugin.so in his profile_default_pluginreg.dat.txt
[03:22] <micahg> drew212: he said explicitely he's using sun java :)
[03:23] <micahg> that was the other point :)
[03:25] <drew212> yeah, but shouldn't he be using icedtea?
[03:25] <micahg> drew212: that's up to the user
[03:26] <drew212> so what did i tell him to install? lol
[03:26] <drew212> i mean, i know what it is, but why isn't that the correct thing to install?
[03:26] <micahg> the runtime environment for java which is a dependency of the plugin
[03:27] <micahg> drew212: you said install the jre instead of the plugin
[03:29] <drew212> ok... so i'm confused as what to do now, surprise surprise =P
[03:30] <micahg> drew212: you can ask the user for his version of sun-java6-plugin
[03:30] <micahg> apt-cache policy sun-java6-plugin
[03:34] <drew212> thanks micahg, i gotta get doing some HW, i'm overloaded with classes, and i took an honors addon that requires a finished project by the end of the semester, and we have some android phones to make some apps for =)!
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[08:27] <nigelb> kermic & vish: Nice job with the cheese hook :)
[08:27] <KE1HA> Got a question all. Fresh install, did updates / upgrades via cmd line. The the upgrade manager then tells me I have Kernel update to do. I check with apt-get, nadda, reloaded update manager, same results, Kernel update needed. Is normal behavior?
[08:29] <persia> Did you have update-manager check again?
[08:30] <persia> sometimes it's cache is out of date
[08:31] <KE1HA> Yep, same thing, closed it, opened again, same results.
[08:32] <KE1HA> it's fer the 32-24 kernel, anyway, just wanted to check.
[08:33] <persia> Close/Open doesn't do it.  You have to manually press "Check" to get the cache up-to-date (or wait some random amount of time which could be a week)
[08:38] <KE1HA> persia:  sri, yes, I hit the reload (Check) on restart was the same.
[08:39] <persia> Dunno then.
[08:39] <KE1HA> In any case, it's installing, it's just odd that apt didn't pick it up.
[08:44] <vish> kermiac:  <nigelb> kermic & vish: Nice job with the cheese hook :)
[08:44] <vish> actually kermiac's 3 kids helped the most! ;)
[08:44] <kermiac> haha
[08:44] <kermiac> thanks nigelb, vish :)
[08:45] <vish> kermiac: np, thanks. its been uploaded too :)
[08:45] <kermiac> vish: awesome :)
[08:47] <kermiac> anyone else getting 'The Google Maps API server rejected your request. The "client" parameter specified in the request is invalid.' on LP?
[08:47] <vish> kermiac: o/
[08:47] <kermiac> vish: thanks mate, that means it's not just me ;)
[08:47] <vish> heh , i thought,*i* was special !
[08:48] <kermiac> haha, that's what I was thinking
[08:49] <kermiac> vish: you said the cheese hook was uploaded now, should I mark bug 573124 fix released?
[08:49] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 573124 in cheese (Ubuntu) "Make cheese debugging log attach as a .log file (affects: 1) (heat: 35)" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/573124
[08:49] <vish> kermiac: nah, the lp janitor will do it automatically, it might be waiting for the freeze to get published
[08:51] <kermiac> ok vish, I thought having lp bug number the changelog should handle it automatically... I'll leave it alone & let it take care of itself :)
[08:54] <vish> kermiac: yeah , it just got merged a half hr ago. will prolly take a bit more time :)
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[10:45] <einstein1969> Hi to all,  I am following a bug (623450) on "zenity" and "gnome system monitor". But it's' been placed in state "invalid". Now I have found a way to reproduce and I updated the bug. With this state, will ' considered?
[10:47] <persia> bug #623450
[10:47] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 623450 in zenity (Ubuntu) "file selection on /dev returns wrong filename (affects: 2) (heat: 12)" [Low,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/623450
[10:48] <persia> einstein1969, Yep.  The Ubuntu policy is that you can reset to "New" if you can reproduce.
[10:48] <persia> You want to get someone else to also do so to get from new to Confirmed
[10:48] <persia> (normally you could confirm someone else's bug, but once it's invalid, it's good to get a couple instances just to be sure)
[10:49] <persia> Ah, you and muflone can both reproduce with those steps, then yes, "Confirmed" would be correct.
[10:50] <persia> Anyone familiar with this software, and have suggestions to help einstein1969 troubleshoot deeper?
[10:53] <einstein1969> thanks persia :)
[10:57] <jfi> I don't if I miss a point, but I don't reproduce with maverick
[11:00] <einstein1969> jfi: this bug is on Lucid (LTS). It'is important to reproduce in Maverick?
[11:01] <jfi> just tested with lucid, it fails in a different manner for, the selection is not visible and it always returns /dev/zero
[11:02] <jfi> einstein1969, I guess it may help to know that it is fixed in a more recent release
[11:04] <einstein1969> thanks jfi
[11:05] <jfi> I have added a comment and my vote
[11:10] <jfi> einstein1969, as 3 guys reproduce this issue, I guess that you can turn the bug state to 'confirmed' or at least 'new'
[11:13] <einstein1969> ok jfi
[11:14] <persia> "confirmed".
[11:15] <persia> Now it needs some more investigation to understand the cause in the code.
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[12:01] <devildante> hi all :)
[12:02] <yofel> hey devildante
[12:02] <jibel> Hi devildante
[12:02] <devildante> hi yofel, jibel ;)
[13:16] <BlackZ> pedro_: for bug #624892: I reported that bug to upstream: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=628076
[13:16] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 624892 in rhythmbox (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Rhythmbox crashes on startup (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/624892
[13:16] <ubot2> Gnome bug 628076 in general "Rhythmbox crashes on startup" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]
[13:16] <pedro_> BlackZ, awesome, thank you !
[13:17] <BlackZ> pedro_: ah, first to report it to upstream I attached a backtrace with more debug symbols in the bug report in malone (and I attached the same backtrace to the bug report to upstream) :)
[13:18] <BlackZ> pedro_: thank you for looking!
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[14:09] <vish> BlackZ: hei! not fair! hggdh and myself also looked at the bug! ;p
[14:10] <BlackZ> thanks to vish and hggdh too then
[14:10] <vish> BlackZ: pedro_ just copied us! ;p
[14:10] <vish> \o/
[14:10]  * BlackZ hugs vish and hggdh 
[14:10] <vish> boo pedro_ ! ;p
[14:11] <hggdh> :-)
[14:11] <pedro_> vish boooo! that guy is always doing crazy stuff booo pedrooo
[14:11] <vish> :)
[14:12] <pedro_> how are you today guys?
[14:12] <pedro_> moin hggdh
[14:12] <hggdh> er. Anyone _unable_ to Ctrl/Alt/F1 from Gnome?
[14:12] <hggdh> moin pedro_
[14:12] <pedro_> hggdh, works fine here
[14:12] <hggdh> darn!
[14:12] <vish> hmm, wfm too
[14:13] <vish> the policykit hang a session quit is bugging me though! :s
[14:13] <hggdh> here it does not... the *only* time it did (lately) I could not get back to Gnome, and had to restart gnome
[14:13] <hggdh> vish: yes, and the policykit not ending
[14:14] <hggdh> oh
[14:14] <hggdh> more to the misery
[14:15] <hggdh> when I boot my /tmp is not cleared (upstart mounted-tmp return 124) and, as a result, ssh-agent does not work
[14:15] <devildante> is there someone with gnome-terminal pasting problems (Ctrl+shift+V)?
[14:15] <vish> yeah , it has been happening only since yesterday's daily
[14:16] <hggdh> devildante: at least *that* is working here
[14:16] <devildante> dammit, I'm alone :p
[15:12] <pedro_> arrrrrgg lp i hate you.
[15:24] <charlie-tca> poor lp; gets blamed for everything these days
[15:32] <devildante> charlie-tca: it's justified :p
[15:33] <pedro_> i'm just getting too much timeouts...
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[15:37] <devildante> hey guys, did you know there is a package called "dammit"? :p
[15:40] <jpds> devildante: There's also one called 'ohai'.
[15:41] <devildante> jpds: I lol'd :p
[15:41] <jpds> devildante: Good to know.
[15:42] <charlie-tca> yup
[15:42]  * devildante thinks that now he has tested them both, bzr is 100 times better than git
[15:42] <charlie-tca> I am willing to blame it too! between timeouts and gedit telling me it can't read the file type... :-(
[15:43] <devildante> We should start a project called "One hundred LP papercuts" :p
[15:59] <devildante> is there a ppa for daily gnome builds? (sort of like xorg-edgers)
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[16:20] <njin> pedro_: hello, mail
[16:20] <pedro_> hallo njin
[16:35] <jfi> How should I collect information for 625371? apport-collect 625371 fails, did I miss something?
[16:36] <penguin42> does it say anything when it fails?
[16:37] <jfi> it just popup a message dialog with "No additional information collected"
[16:38] <charlie-tca> bug 625371
[16:38] <ubot2> charlie-tca: Bug 625371 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/625371 is private
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[19:11] <hggdh> jfi: I would say there is no apport hook for collecting data from Application Indicators
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[19:26]  * nigelb pokes minions
[19:27] <nigelb> kermiac: something you'd be interested in mate? hook for app indicators :D
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[19:31] <elopio> hello squad.
[19:32] <elopio> a bug on the network driver should be reported to linux?
[19:34] <penguin42> yes
[19:38] <elopio> thanks penguin42
[19:41] <penguin42> np
[19:41] <lanoxx> is a lock-file considered a cache file?
[19:41] <lanoxx> xdg_spec wise
[19:47] <jfi> hggdh: thx for the response, I thought it was possible to collect data for any package
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[20:07] <hggdh> jfi: bug data collection depends on having an Apport hook for it -- now... if you are willing to write one... we will all be grateful ;-)
[20:19] <jfi> hggdh, well..... I am going to list manually the information of my system for this bug :-D Seems that this famous hook have to be written in python which is a show-stopper for me:)
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[21:48] <vish> hmm , did lp fonts just change! ???!
[21:49] <vish> looks like a few of the places Ubuntu fonts are used
[21:52] <devildante> vish:yeah, I did see them change
[21:52] <vish> phew!
[21:52] <devildante> oh, wait, is that Ubuntu fonts?
[21:52]  * devildante goes steal them
[21:52]  * vish not going crazy! for now..
[21:52] <vish> err, not yet! ;p
[21:53] <vish> devildante: odd that the fonts for the comments are larger!  HUGE!
[21:53] <vish> like the comments need even more attention ;p
[21:53] <jfi> I wonder if I can apply to https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-typeface-interest without a real reason except curiosity:)
[21:53] <devildante> vish: they should make them grow with the commenter's whining :p
[21:57] <penguin42> odd, I just went to launchpad.net and got a 'The Google Maps API server rejected your request' error
[21:58] <jfi> penguin42, I have this issue too, that's boring
[21:58] <penguin42> nod, if it doesn't fix itself I'll go and ask on launchpad
[21:59] <jfi> I have "The "client" parameter specified in the request is invalid" in addition to the first sentence
[22:02] <devildante> I got the google maps error too
[22:03] <Muscovy> I've been getting that too.
[22:03] <Muscovy> Research indicated it's something Launchpad side (like subscription).
[22:09] <vish> In #launchpad topic : "The Google Maps API server rejected your request" is a known bug and it's being worked on: bug 624981
[22:09] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 624981 in launchpad-registry "The Google Maps API server rejected your request (affects: 14) (dups: 3) (heat: 74)" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/624981
[22:09] <jibel> penguin42, jfi, Muscovy, devildante: bug 624981
[22:09] <devildante> too late, jibel :p
[22:10] <vish> devildante: the force is strong with jibel, dont make him use it  ;)
[22:10]  * devildante hides
[22:11] <jfi> jibel, thx, /me has voted :)
[22:16] <penguin42> jibel: I suspect it got noticed pretty quickly!
[22:18] <jibel> penguin42, yes it started nearly 1 day ago.
[22:19] <vish> penguin42: its actually late , its been going on since afternoon here , more than 12hrs
[22:19] <penguin42> really? Oh would have thought they would have nailed it faster
[22:20] <jibel> penguin42, google's fault apparently http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/base/thread?hl=en&tid=462f63cbd84b4464
[22:21] <penguin42> would have thought it would be easiest just to disable the map thing until it gets fixed