=== erichammond1 is now known as erichammond [19:15] hi all.. i have a laptop with intel core2 duo 2.4ghz, 8gb ram and 750gb hard drive.. I want to use it for my private cloud.. but first i want to install the desktop (since it is my laptop). then should I use vbox or kvm for the cloud? any other recommendation may be ? [19:52] axisys: Are you looking mostly at running virtual machines, or do you need an API to program with? [20:44] niemeyer: mostly virtual machines.. i want to have multiple cloud nodes and a way to manage them [20:45] i was looking at hadoop.. but wanted to find out if ubuntu has a default method to manage them [20:45] all should be contained w/ in my laptop [20:46] axisys: Plain kvm is easy to use.. libvirt will also be helpful if you want some additional management capabilities but stay lightweight [20:46] axisys: Hadoop is unrelated to this [20:46] axisys: Virtualbox may be helpful if you want a more graphical experience when managing your vms [20:47] niemeyer: for the vms i dont need graphics.. but i need to be able to do it all from my laptop/desktop [20:49] axisys: Look for information on libvirt and virtsh.. may provide you an interesting path to dig in [20:50] axisys: There are also graphical tools to interact with libvirt-managed machines, if the basic model work for you [20:50] works [20:56] niemeyer: thanks [20:57] axisys: No problem [20:57] niemeyer: is there a ubuntu page where I can start reading about it? [20:58] axisys: Google tells me so: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Virsh [20:58] niemeyer: thanks [20:59] axisys: Regarding standard tools to help you managing a full deployment, nothing that works out of the box, but there's on going work in a project that will enable you to do this. [21:55] fyi, new Ubuntu Images on EC2 of 10.04 , 9.10, and 8.04 [21:55] mails will appear https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-cloud/2010-August/thread.html shortly [21:56] http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/releases/hardy/release-20100827/ [21:56] http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/releases/karmic/release-20100826/ [21:57] http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/releases/lucid/release-20100827/ [21:57] good night. [22:27] How is the difference between Google's MapReduce paradigm and Microsoft's Azure framework?