| zkriesse | Hello may I request a K-Line on a user/troll? | 00:13 |
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| rww | zkriesse: try #freenode | 00:14 |
| zkriesse | The channel is in the Ubuntu Namespace | 00:14 |
| rww | zkriesse: K-Lines are a network thing, not a namespace one. | 00:14 |
| zkriesse | rww: True I was told to ask here though by a freenode staff member | 00:15 |
| rww | o.O | 00:15 |
| marienz | not for a kline though | 00:15 |
| m4v | he probably meant to get a op to look around | 00:15 |
| marienz | zkriesse: why were you asking for a kline specifically? | 00:15 |
| zkriesse | User came into #ubuntu-youth, quit, rejoined with a different IP, quit again, rejoined and repeated the process multiple times | 00:16 |
| zkriesse | When asked about it he did it again, after a ban he re-joined with a different IP and complained rather rudely and then left | 00:17 |
| zkriesse | ? | 00:21 |
| m4v | I don't think klines aren't going to be any more effective, did you try quieting him and talk him out of it? | 00:21 |
| rww | or ban based on ident or nick | 00:21 |
| m4v | quiets are good, sometimes trolls don't realice they are being silenced | 00:22 |
| zkriesse | It's a moderated channel so voice was removed and then we tried to speak to him yes | 00:23 |
| zkriesse | His ident and nick were both banned as well but due to him changing his IP constantly it's a pain | 00:23 |
| rww | removing voice isn't particularly useful when you have *!*@* +V set :\ | 00:23 |
| rww | although I guess most people wouldn't know about /msg chanserv voice | 00:24 |
| zkriesse | Ok then....we'll deal with it ourselves | 00:24 |
| zkriesse | rww: Ah +v is required for a voice command | 00:24 |
| marienz | if you need help dealing with him feel free to prod staff, but the help may not come in the form of a kline | 00:25 |
| marienz | rww: the problem with +V-ing *!*@* isn't so much the voice command as it is them /cycle-ing the channel | 00:25 |
| zkriesse | Ok we'll manage | 00:26 |
| rww | zkriesse: considering that I got +v in there yes... alrighty then. | 00:26 |
| rww | marienz: that too | 00:26 |
| marienz | that was a little odd | 00:27 |
| rww | not a huge fan of the way #ubuntu-youth is set up, but they don't seem amenable to suggestions. | 00:27 |
| rww | setting +m and autovoicing people basically gains you nothing and removes +m as a tool for dealing with attacks, as I understand it. | 00:29 |
| marienz | correct | 00:29 |
| marienz | it also means you cannot +q users | 00:29 |
| m4v | yeah, +m and autovoice everyone aren't nice | 00:29 |
| m4v | isn't | 00:29 |
| marienz | (removing voice isn't equivalent to +q since they can just /cycle to regain voice) | 00:29 |
| marienz | so yeah, we discourage this mode, I really don't understand why people keep doing it | 00:30 |
| marienz | about the only advantage I can think of is if your ops find removing voice easier than +q-ing and the people whose voice is removed don't just /cycle for some reason | 00:30 |
| m4v | for tease people by removing his voice :P | 00:30 |
| k1l | +q and +z is very powerfull. most kiddies dont realize that they were muted | 00:30 |
| ubot4 | In #ubuntu-irc, k1l said: +q and +z is very powerfull. most kiddies dont realize that they were muted | 00:31 |
| marienz | yes, k1l did indeed say that. | 00:31 |
| m4v | haha | 00:31 |
| k1l | thx to the bot :) | 00:31 |
| rww | it thought you were making a factoid suggestion. + is ubot4's !. | 00:31 |
| rww | Does +V imply +v? What I was about to say before zkriesse left is that I have /msg nickserv set noop turned on, and thus don't automatically get voiced, and am pretty sure I used /msg chanserv voice to voice myself in there yesterday. | 00:33 |
| rww | though it's possible that someone else voiced me and I missed the notice from Chanserv about it, I guess. | 00:34 |
| m4v | i think it doesn't imply +v | 00:35 |
| rww | I just tested it. Looks like it does. | 00:38 |
| rww | (and it's not special casing for noop users, because I tried it with an unregistered user) | 00:42 |
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| Muscovy | Hello, I'm a member of #ubuntu-tour. Is it possible for us to get a log bot? | 21:35 |
| rww | Muscovy: logging for non-LoCo channels is done by ubuntulog, which is controlled by Canonical. Email rt at ubuntu dot com. | 21:39 |
| Muscovy | Ok, thank you. | 21:43 |
| niko | could i ask a ubuntu GC to restore my ubuntu.member cloak part :) | 23:07 |
| niko | https://launchpad.net/~nicolascoevoet | 23:07 |
| Pici | niko: Can I ask you to change it yourself, or do I need to find a different staffer? | 23:09 |
| niko | a different staffer please | 23:10 |
| Pici | niko: Do you know if theres a particular one around, or do I need to go hunting for one. | 23:10 |
| niko | let's me try :) | 23:11 |
| marienz | freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.niko, right? | 23:13 |
| niko | yes, please | 23:13 |
| marienz | hmm, actually, see the other channel | 23:13 |
| Pici | marienz: If you need a GC to okay it: Its fine with me. | 23:14 |
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