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zkriesseHello may I request a K-Line on a user/troll?00:13
rwwzkriesse: try #freenode00:14
zkriesseThe channel is in the Ubuntu Namespace00:14
rwwzkriesse: K-Lines are a network thing, not a namespace one.00:14
zkriesserww: True I was told to ask here though by a freenode staff member00:15
rwwo.O00:15
marienznot for a kline though00:15
m4vhe probably meant to get a op to look around00:15
marienzzkriesse: why were you asking for a kline specifically?00:15
zkriesseUser came into #ubuntu-youth, quit, rejoined with a different IP, quit again, rejoined and repeated the process multiple times00:16
zkriesseWhen asked about it he did it again, after a ban he re-joined with a different IP and complained rather rudely and then left00:17
zkriesse?00:21
m4vI don't think klines aren't going to be any more effective, did you try quieting him and talk him out of it?00:21
rwwor ban based on ident or nick00:21
m4vquiets are good, sometimes trolls don't realice they are being silenced00:22
zkriesseIt's a moderated channel so voice was removed and then we tried to speak to him yes00:23
zkriesseHis ident and nick were both banned as well but due to him changing his IP constantly it's a pain00:23
rwwremoving voice isn't particularly useful when you have *!*@* +V set :\00:23
rwwalthough I guess most people wouldn't know about /msg chanserv voice00:24
zkriesseOk then....we'll deal with it ourselves00:24
zkriesserww: Ah +v is required for a voice command00:24
marienzif you need help dealing with him feel free to prod staff, but the help may not come in the form of a kline00:25
marienzrww: the problem with +V-ing *!*@* isn't so much the voice command as it is them /cycle-ing the channel00:25
zkriesseOk we'll manage00:26
rwwzkriesse: considering that I got +v in there yes... alrighty then.00:26
rwwmarienz: that too00:26
marienzthat was a little odd00:27
rwwnot a huge fan of the way #ubuntu-youth is set up, but they don't seem amenable to suggestions.00:27
rwwsetting +m and autovoicing people basically gains you nothing and removes +m as a tool for dealing with attacks, as I understand it.00:29
marienzcorrect00:29
marienzit also means you cannot +q users00:29
m4vyeah, +m and autovoice everyone aren't nice00:29
m4visn't00:29
marienz(removing voice isn't equivalent to +q since they can just /cycle to regain voice)00:29
marienzso yeah, we discourage this mode, I really don't understand why people keep doing it00:30
marienzabout the only advantage I can think of is if your ops find removing voice easier than +q-ing and the people whose voice is removed don't just /cycle for some reason00:30
m4vfor tease people by removing his voice :P00:30
k1l+q and +z is very powerfull. most kiddies dont realize that they were muted00:30
ubot4In #ubuntu-irc, k1l said: +q and +z is very powerfull. most kiddies dont realize that they were muted00:31
marienzyes, k1l did indeed say that.00:31
m4vhaha00:31
k1lthx to the bot :)00:31
rwwit thought you were making a factoid suggestion. + is ubot4's !.00:31
rwwDoes +V imply +v? What I was about to say before zkriesse left is that I have /msg nickserv set noop turned on, and thus don't automatically get voiced, and am pretty sure I used /msg chanserv voice to voice myself in there yesterday.00:33
rwwthough it's possible that someone else voiced me and I missed the notice from Chanserv about it, I guess.00:34
m4vi think it doesn't imply +v00:35
rwwI just tested it. Looks like it does.00:38
rww(and it's not special casing for noop users, because I tried it with an unregistered user)00:42
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MuscovyHello, I'm a member of #ubuntu-tour. Is it possible for us to get a log bot?21:35
rwwMuscovy: logging for non-LoCo channels is done by ubuntulog, which is controlled by Canonical. Email rt at ubuntu dot com.21:39
MuscovyOk, thank you.21:43
nikocould i ask a ubuntu GC to restore my ubuntu.member cloak part :)23:07
nikohttps://launchpad.net/~nicolascoevoet23:07
Piciniko: Can I ask you to change it yourself, or do I need to find a different staffer?23:09
nikoa different staffer please23:10
Piciniko: Do you know if theres a particular one around, or do I need to go hunting for one.23:10
nikolet's me try :)23:11
marienzfreenode/staff/ubuntu.member.niko, right?23:13
nikoyes, please23:13
marienzhmm, actually, see the other channel23:13
Picimarienz: If you need a GC to okay it: Its fine with me.23:14

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