[00:13] Hello may I request a K-Line on a user/troll? [00:14] zkriesse: try #freenode [00:14] The channel is in the Ubuntu Namespace [00:14] zkriesse: K-Lines are a network thing, not a namespace one. [00:15] rww: True I was told to ask here though by a freenode staff member [00:15] o.O [00:15] not for a kline though [00:15] he probably meant to get a op to look around [00:15] zkriesse: why were you asking for a kline specifically? [00:16] User came into #ubuntu-youth, quit, rejoined with a different IP, quit again, rejoined and repeated the process multiple times [00:17] When asked about it he did it again, after a ban he re-joined with a different IP and complained rather rudely and then left [00:21] ? [00:21] I don't think klines aren't going to be any more effective, did you try quieting him and talk him out of it? [00:21] or ban based on ident or nick [00:22] quiets are good, sometimes trolls don't realice they are being silenced [00:23] It's a moderated channel so voice was removed and then we tried to speak to him yes [00:23] His ident and nick were both banned as well but due to him changing his IP constantly it's a pain [00:23] removing voice isn't particularly useful when you have *!*@* +V set :\ [00:24] although I guess most people wouldn't know about /msg chanserv voice [00:24] Ok then....we'll deal with it ourselves [00:24] rww: Ah +v is required for a voice command [00:25] if you need help dealing with him feel free to prod staff, but the help may not come in the form of a kline [00:25] rww: the problem with +V-ing *!*@* isn't so much the voice command as it is them /cycle-ing the channel [00:26] Ok we'll manage [00:26] zkriesse: considering that I got +v in there yes... alrighty then. [00:26] marienz: that too [00:27] that was a little odd [00:27] not a huge fan of the way #ubuntu-youth is set up, but they don't seem amenable to suggestions. [00:29] setting +m and autovoicing people basically gains you nothing and removes +m as a tool for dealing with attacks, as I understand it. [00:29] correct [00:29] it also means you cannot +q users [00:29] yeah, +m and autovoice everyone aren't nice [00:29] isn't [00:29] (removing voice isn't equivalent to +q since they can just /cycle to regain voice) [00:30] so yeah, we discourage this mode, I really don't understand why people keep doing it [00:30] about the only advantage I can think of is if your ops find removing voice easier than +q-ing and the people whose voice is removed don't just /cycle for some reason [00:30] for tease people by removing his voice :P [00:30] +q and +z is very powerfull. most kiddies dont realize that they were muted [00:31] In #ubuntu-irc, k1l said: +q and +z is very powerfull. most kiddies dont realize that they were muted [00:31] yes, k1l did indeed say that. [00:31] haha [00:31] thx to the bot :) [00:31] it thought you were making a factoid suggestion. + is ubot4's !. [00:33] Does +V imply +v? What I was about to say before zkriesse left is that I have /msg nickserv set noop turned on, and thus don't automatically get voiced, and am pretty sure I used /msg chanserv voice to voice myself in there yesterday. [00:34] though it's possible that someone else voiced me and I missed the notice from Chanserv about it, I guess. [00:35] i think it doesn't imply +v [00:38] I just tested it. Looks like it does. [00:42] (and it's not special casing for noop users, because I tried it with an unregistered user) === AndrewMC is now known as SpockVulcan === SpockVulcan is now known as AndrewMC === AndrewMC is now known as SpockVulcan === SpockVulcan is now known as AndrewMC === k1l_ is now known as k1l === IdleOne_ is now known as IdleOne [21:35] Hello, I'm a member of #ubuntu-tour. Is it possible for us to get a log bot? [21:39] Muscovy: logging for non-LoCo channels is done by ubuntulog, which is controlled by Canonical. Email rt at ubuntu dot com. [21:43] Ok, thank you. [23:07] could i ask a ubuntu GC to restore my ubuntu.member cloak part :) [23:07] https://launchpad.net/~nicolascoevoet [23:09] niko: Can I ask you to change it yourself, or do I need to find a different staffer? [23:10] a different staffer please [23:10] niko: Do you know if theres a particular one around, or do I need to go hunting for one. [23:11] let's me try :) [23:13] freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.niko, right? [23:13] yes, please [23:13] hmm, actually, see the other channel [23:14] marienz: If you need a GC to okay it: Its fine with me.