| fta | iirc, chromium uses xdg-settings get default-web-browser | 00:05 |
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| micahg | chrisccoulson: do you think we should update firefox-3.5 in jaunty? | 00:53 |
| micahg | or did we replace that, I can never remember | 00:53 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - we didn't replace it. i've got the update ready, but just waiting for xul1.9.1 to finish building on armel | 00:53 |
| micahg | ah, ok, looks like we can keep supporting it until EOL of Jaunty (2 months \0/) | 00:54 |
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| lfaraone | micahg: would I need trademark approval from Mozilla to ship Firefox.activity in Sugar? It's just with a custom homepage (the Sugar default) and an ext to intergrete the download manager with the Journal. | 15:52 |
| lfaraone | http://wiki.laptop.org/images/b/bf/Firefox.png <--- the browser. | 15:52 |
| gnomefreak | looking at the mozilla-team blueprints i see that we are keeping instantbird but we never had it to keep | 16:24 |
| chrisccoulson | gnomefreak, what do you mean? | 16:25 |
| gnomefreak | chrisccoulson: you added to keep instantbird to the blueprint | 16:25 |
| chrisccoulson | gnomefreak, i made a note that we decided to keep it in the archive | 16:26 |
| gnomefreak | one minute | 16:26 |
| gnomefreak | + * instantbird - This is cool, so we keep | 16:26 |
| gnomefreak | it is listed under parole | 16:26 |
| gnomefreak | chrisccoulson: that would be great if it was in archive to start with | 16:27 |
| gnomefreak | its not in ubuntu archives | 16:27 |
| chrisccoulson | gnomefreak, it is in the archive | 16:27 |
| chrisccoulson | it's been there for several weeks now ;) | 16:27 |
| gnomefreak | !info instantbird | 16:27 |
| ubot2 | gnomefreak: Package instantbird does not exist in lucid | 16:27 |
| chrisccoulson | i've even been upoading fixes for it | 16:28 |
| gnomefreak | !info instantbird maverick | 16:28 |
| ubot2 | gnomefreak: Package instantbird does not exist in maverick | 16:28 |
| gnomefreak | chrisccoulson: what archive. search finds nothing as well | 16:28 |
| * gnomefreak confused | 16:28 | |
| chrisccoulson | it's definately there | 16:28 |
| gnomefreak | chrisccoulson: is the name instantbird? or something else | 16:29 |
| chrisccoulson | yep, it's instantbird | 16:29 |
| gnomefreak | i have been wanting to try it but it never was uploaded | 16:29 |
| gnomefreak | gnomefreak@Development:~$ search instantbird | 16:29 |
| gnomefreak | gnomefreak@Development:~$ | 16:29 |
| chrisccoulson | it was sync'd from debian and then we've uplaoded several ubuntu-specific build fixes for it too | 16:30 |
| chrisccoulson | https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/instantbird | 16:30 |
| chrisccoulson | rmadison -u ubuntu instantbird ;) | 16:30 |
| gnomefreak | chrisccoulson: any chance you can push to a PPA so i have access to it until i upgrade this box | 16:31 |
| chrisccoulson | gnomefreak - that's not something i've got time to do atm unfortunately | 16:32 |
| gnomefreak | thats fine | 16:32 |
| chrisccoulson | i suspect that the maverick build will just run on lucid though ;) | 16:32 |
| * gnomefreak can always rebuild it for lucid PPA | 16:32 | |
| chrisccoulson | it's built on the same gecko version | 16:32 |
| gnomefreak | tell me this didnt replace chatzilla or even runs in browser at all | 16:33 |
| * gnomefreak thinking it was a stand alone app | 16:33 | |
| chrisccoulson | gnomefreak, it's unrelated to chatzilla | 16:33 |
| chrisccoulson | but it is a standalone app | 16:34 |
| gnomefreak | but if it is depending on gecko/xul | 16:34 |
| gnomefreak | ok so its not even like chatzilla | 16:34 |
| gnomefreak | good | 16:34 |
| gnomefreak | grabbing it | 16:35 |
| gnomefreak | thanks | 16:35 |
| micahg | lfaraone: I don't know, asac or chrisccoulson might be better suited to answer | 17:11 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm not sure i'd feel comfortable with answering that question either | 17:12 |
| gnomefreak | no yelling at me. | 17:12 |
| gnomefreak | :\ | 17:12 |
| lfaraone | micahg: I see. | 17:14 |
| chrisccoulson | heh, archive rebuild test next week | 17:16 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: well, that's one problem with instantbird is that it uses its own copy of libpurple | 17:16 |
| chrisccoulson | that will mean no PPA's i guess ;) | 17:16 |
| micahg | ugh | 17:16 |
| chrisccoulson | was just following the RT meeting ;) | 17:17 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - oh, i didn't realise it was using it's own copy of libpurple. debian are usually pretty strict with that sort of thing | 17:18 |
| micahg | debian 569946 | 17:19 |
| ubot2 | Debian bug 569946 in instantbird "Blocker bug to keep instantbird out of testing until it uses the standard copy of libpurple" [Serious,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/569946 | 17:19 |
| micahg | that's why it won't be in squeeze :) | 17:19 |
| chrisccoulson | ah | 17:19 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: I assume you're waiting on xulrunner uploads on the nspr outcome | 17:19 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - yeah, i just opened the changelog entries though to save me time later | 17:20 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - we've got a freeze exception from the release team for 3.6.9 too | 17:20 |
| micahg | that's good :) | 17:20 |
| gnomefreak | micahg: that is consistant for 1 or both of my bugs? | 17:21 |
| micahg | but that doesn't mean we should use it necessarily | 17:21 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: ? | 17:21 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 asked me if i could fix the crashreporting bug before beta, and i said that there wouldn't be much point unless we uploaded 3.6.9 | 17:21 |
| gnomefreak | micahg: i filed 2 bugs one on font and one on chat rooms | 17:21 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: I saw, but bugsquad's initial response should be can you test in a maverick VM to see if it happens there :) | 17:22 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - have you been testing 3.6.9 yet? | 17:22 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: yes, seems ok | 17:22 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - yeah, and there aren't any new blockers yet since it was pushed out to the beta channel yesterday | 17:22 |
| micahg | but I don't use common sites like facebook and what not where there were regressions early in the cycle | 17:22 |
| chrisccoulson | i use facebook | 17:23 |
| * chrisccoulson hangs head in shame | 17:23 | |
| chrisccoulson | ;) | 17:23 |
| chrisccoulson | i didn't just admit to that really | 17:23 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: at least one of us can test then ;) | 17:23 |
| chrisccoulson | heh | 17:23 |
| * gnomefreak has a facebook account that i rarely use if i have ever used it | 17:24 | |
| chrisccoulson | i try to be cool sometimes ;) | 17:24 |
| chrisccoulson | i've never played farmville though | 17:24 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm happy to say ;) | 17:24 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: I'll test your instantbird issues when I upgrade to maverick next week | 17:31 |
| chrisccoulson | i know what we need for instantbird.... | 17:32 |
| chrisccoulson | ....messaging indicator support! | 17:32 |
| chrisccoulson | :) | 17:32 |
| gnomefreak | micahg: ok ikm running it on Lucid atm | 17:32 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: if we make it an extension, we can use it in both :) | 17:32 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: yes, but I won't fix it if it's not broke in maverick :) | 17:32 |
| gnomefreak | k | 17:33 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - yeah. i spoke to the guy who wrote the existing thunderbird extension this week | 17:33 |
| gnomefreak | it _should_ be the same | 17:33 |
| chrisccoulson | he's pretty keen to get it in to ubuntu | 17:33 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: only if you do a rebuild :) | 17:33 |
| chrisccoulson | i don't see any reason why we couldn't make it work for all mozilla apps that deal with messaging ;) | 17:33 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: exactly :) | 17:34 |
| gnomefreak | thats easy enough but at least it works. let me know about maverick and if i have to ill rebuild for lucid and test it | 17:34 |
| gnomefreak | and links dont work it in damn | 17:36 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: I can push a backport to my backports PPA if you like | 17:38 |
| gnomefreak | micahg: i remember why i couldnt add ingnoreabi to /xorg.conf. i am unablet o have that file i have to remove it to get any kind of UI | 17:38 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: yeah, xorg.conf is gone by default | 17:38 |
| gnomefreak | micahg: that works for me. | 17:38 |
| gnomefreak | if i add the file i get no UI and adding ingoreabi fails to help it drops me into TTY for some damn reason, but if i get everything backed up i will upgrade this box | 17:44 |
| gnomefreak | maybe next week sometime | 17:45 |
| fta | anyone using an irc bouncer here? i'm sick of my disconnections | 18:13 |
| chrisccoulson | hi fta | 18:15 |
| fta | chrisccoulson, hi | 18:15 |
| chrisccoulson | i saw in one of the other channels that there might be an archive rebuild test next week | 18:15 |
| chrisccoulson | just thought i'd let you know ;) | 18:15 |
| fta | oh my | 18:15 |
| chrisccoulson | that will mean long queues for PPA's again | 18:15 |
| fta | i'm looking for an irc bouncer/bnc/proxy, any idea? something that resends me what i missed during disconnections | 18:18 |
| fta | ~15y ago, i had one, but i don't remember what it was | 18:19 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm not sure, i don't use one | 18:19 |
| fta | !info znc | 18:20 |
| fta | uh? | 18:21 |
| ubot2 | fta: znc (source: znc): an advanced IRC bouncer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.078-1 (lucid), package size 863 kB, installed size 2292 kB | 18:21 |
| fta | !info psybnc | 18:21 |
| ubot2 | fta: Package psybnc does not exist in lucid | 18:21 |
| fta | bouhh | 18:21 |
| fta | !info miau | 18:22 |
| ubot2 | fta: Package miau does not exist in lucid | 18:22 |
| fta_ | grr | 18:26 |
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| micahg | fta: quassel has a client/server(proxy) option | 18:30 |
| fta | !info quassel | 18:30 |
| ubot2 | fta: quassel (source: quassel): KDE/Qt-based IRC client. In component main, is optional. Version 0.6.1-0ubuntu1 (lucid), package size 757 kB, installed size 2676 kB | 18:30 |
| micahg | bbiab | 18:31 |
| fta | no, i already have a client (xchat), i want a bnc that i can run (most probably over ssh) on one of my server | 18:31 |
| fta | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BNC_(software) | 18:31 |
| micahg | !info sbnc | 18:31 |
| ubot2 | micahg: sbnc (source: sbnc): an IRC proxy for multiple users. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2-17 (lucid), package size 237 kB, installed size 784 kB | 18:31 |
| micahg | bye :) | 18:31 |
| fta | !info ezbounce | 18:33 |
| ubot2 | fta: Package ezbounce does not exist in lucid | 18:33 |
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| fta | jdstrand, mdeslaur: could we rush for chromium 5.0.375.127 in lucid? i foresee another hot security update in less than a week | 21:18 |
| mdeslaur | jdstrand: ^ are we waiting for gyp to make it to -updates before we can build chromium for -proposed? | 21:23 |
| mdeslaur | jdstrand: or can we just pocket-copy chromium-browser now? | 21:23 |
| fta | i see 13 security fixes for the next one, but i seems it will be v6, hence, it will need the new ffmpeg codecs too | 21:34 |
| fta | -i+it | 21:34 |
| mdeslaur | fta: ouch | 21:36 |
| fta | mdeslaur, yeah, but i prefer to land more releases with fixes rather than live with those vulnerabilities | 21:37 |
| mdeslaur | fta: definitely | 21:40 |
| mdeslaur | fta: oh, ffmpeg has it's own chromium package...cool...I thought it was the system ffmpeg | 21:42 |
| fta | yep | 21:42 |
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| jdstrand | mdeslaur: I have gyp in the ubuntu-security-proposed | 21:55 |
| jdstrand | mdeslaur: meh | 21:57 |
| jdstrand | what is in -proposed was built with -updates | 21:58 |
| mdeslaur | d'oh | 21:59 |
| jdstrand | looking at the build log, we should be ok to copy it to -security when it is time | 21:59 |
| jdstrand | the same version is in -proposed and ubuntu-security-proposed :( | 21:59 |
| jdstrand | I think I am going to just pocket copy chromium | 21:59 |
| mdeslaur | jdstrand: how did it get built with -updates, wasn't it pocket-copied from the one in ubuntu-security-proposed? | 21:59 |
| jdstrand | I don't think so-- was it? | 22:00 |
| * jdstrand goes to see | 22:00 | |
| mdeslaur | jdstrand: oh, I thought you had did it :) | 22:00 |
| jdstrand | no | 22:00 |
| jdstrand | I think it was just uploaded | 22:00 |
| jdstrand | alright, I'll copy chromium, then rebuild gyp and copy it to -proposed to be safe | 22:01 |
| mdeslaur | jdstrand: sounds good | 22:01 |
| mdeslaur | fta: if we update any other dependencies like that in the future, we need to build them in the security PPA so we can copy it to -security, and not just -updates | 22:02 |
| fta | k | 22:02 |
| mdeslaur | fta: it's a little complicated for security updates as some people only use the -security repository for stability reasons | 22:03 |
| jdstrand | fta, mdeslaur: copied | 22:08 |
| mdeslaur | jdstrand: thanks! | 22:08 |
| jdstrand | fta, mdeslaur: uploaded ubuntu2 for gyp to ubuntu-security-proposed | 22:19 |
| [reed] | how do I figure out the status of bug 554099 making it's way to lucid? | 22:28 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 554099 in linux-backports-modules-2.6.32 (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 9 other projects) "Qualcomm Gobi 2000 3G (gobi_loader/qcserial) broken (affects: 56) (dups: 4) (heat: 341)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/554099 | 22:28 |
| chrisccoulson | i just installed appmenu-gtk, and i can't even run FF4 with it installed now! | 22:37 |
| chrisccoulson | it crashes even before the window opens | 22:37 |
| [reed] | chrisccoulson: how do I figure out the status of bug 554099 making it's way to lucid? | 22:40 |
| [reed] | :) | 22:40 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 554099 in linux-backports-modules-2.6.32 (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 9 other projects) "Qualcomm Gobi 2000 3G (gobi_loader/qcserial) broken (affects: 56) (dups: 4) (heat: 341)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/554099 | 22:40 |
| chrisccoulson | [reed] - the status of the lucid task for linux-backports-modules would suggest it's already in lucid-proposed for testing | 22:42 |
| chrisccoulson | (although i'm not particularly familiar with how the kernel team works) | 22:42 |
| [reed] | chrisccoulson: yeah, that's what I thought, too, but if I pull lucid-proposed, I don't see linux-backports-modules-wwan-lucid-generic | 22:42 |
| chrisccoulson | oh, the status has a different meaning to every other team it seems | 22:43 |
| chrisccoulson | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/554099/comments/115 | 22:43 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 554099 in linux-backports-modules-2.6.32 (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 9 other projects) "Qualcomm Gobi 2000 3G (gobi_loader/qcserial) broken (affects: 56) (dups: 4) (heat: 341)" [Undecided,Invalid] | 22:43 |
| chrisccoulson | ah, ok. it's actually sat in the queue now | 22:43 |
| chrisccoulson | it just needs approving by someone on the SRU team | 22:43 |
| [reed] | which queue | 22:43 |
| [reed] | how can I get the packages to install myself for now? | 22:44 |
| [reed] | jdstrand: aren't you on the SRU team? :p | 22:44 |
| chrisccoulson | [reed] - https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text= | 22:44 |
| chrisccoulson | although you can only access the source packages there | 22:44 |
| chrisccoulson | they don't get built until they've been approved | 22:45 |
| [reed] | ah | 22:45 |
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| chrisccoulson | micahg - it's a public holiday here on monday | 23:02 |
| chrisccoulson | so i won't be working again until tuesday next week | 23:02 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: k, I'll watch for regressions/new builds on FF3.6.9 and take appropriate action, thanks for the heads up | 23:03 |
| chrisccoulson | thanks | 23:03 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: enjoy your day off :) | 23:03 |
| chrisccoulson | i need to get someone to approve ff3.6.9 actually. i'd like to see it built and published before i get up in the morning | 23:03 |
| micahg | hopefully I'll have the xul192 nspr issue solved by tuesday | 23:03 |
| chrisccoulson | cool, thanks | 23:04 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: well, if it's not built by Sat night, I'll try to get someone to push it through | 23:04 |
| micahg | I'm about to take off as well, ttyl | 23:05 |
| chrisccoulson | ok, no problem | 23:06 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: if I get the issue solved, is it worth me trying to find someone to push up the builds for Thunderbird/xulrunner-1.9.2 or can it wait till you get back tuesday? | 23:06 |
| chrisccoulson | i'll speak to you on tuesday (although i might pop online occasionally at the weekend) | 23:06 |
| chrisccoulson | tuesday will probably be a bit late to do any more builds, so those will likely have to wait until after beta | 23:07 |
| [reed] | chrisccoulson: what holiday is Monday? | 23:07 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: even in the security PPA? | 23:07 |
| chrisccoulson | [reed] - it's just a public holiday here in the UK | 23:07 |
| chrisccoulson | it's the "summer" bank holiday, although it doesn't feel much like summer ;) | 23:07 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg, oh, yeah, we can get them in to the security PPA | 23:08 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: that's what I'm wondering, should I get one of the security people to push to the security PPA or wait till you get back tuesday | 23:08 |
| chrisccoulson | i don't mind. i suppose it can probably wait until tuesday | 23:08 |
| [reed] | ah | 23:08 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: k, thanks | 23:08 |
| fta | mdeslaur, also, for ffmpeg 0.6, we need libvpx.. NEW in lucid :0 | 23:18 |
| [reed] | GAH | 23:44 |
| [reed] | I added ppa:kernel-ppa/pre-proposed | 23:44 |
| [reed] | and apparently, those packages aren't compatible with each other | 23:44 |
| [reed] | site | 23:44 |
| [reed] | sigh | 23:44 |
| chrisccoulson | [reed] -you could try asking in #ubuntu-kernel | 23:47 |
| chrisccoulson | although, i suspect a lot of them might be sleeping now though | 23:47 |
| [reed] | yeah | 23:57 |
| [reed] | I guess I'll build my kernel the hard way :) | 23:57 |
| chrisccoulson | heh, i've not done that for a while ;) | 23:58 |
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