[00:05] iirc, chromium uses xdg-settings get default-web-browser [00:53] chrisccoulson: do you think we should update firefox-3.5 in jaunty? [00:53] or did we replace that, I can never remember [00:53] micahg - we didn't replace it. i've got the update ready, but just waiting for xul1.9.1 to finish building on armel [00:54] ah, ok, looks like we can keep supporting it until EOL of Jaunty (2 months \0/) === yofel_ is now known as yofel [15:52] micahg: would I need trademark approval from Mozilla to ship Firefox.activity in Sugar? It's just with a custom homepage (the Sugar default) and an ext to intergrete the download manager with the Journal. [15:52] http://wiki.laptop.org/images/b/bf/Firefox.png <--- the browser. [16:24] looking at the mozilla-team blueprints i see that we are keeping instantbird but we never had it to keep [16:25] gnomefreak, what do you mean? [16:25] chrisccoulson: you added to keep instantbird to the blueprint [16:26] gnomefreak, i made a note that we decided to keep it in the archive [16:26] one minute [16:26] + * instantbird - This is cool, so we keep [16:26] it is listed under parole [16:27] chrisccoulson: that would be great if it was in archive to start with [16:27] its not in ubuntu archives [16:27] gnomefreak, it is in the archive [16:27] it's been there for several weeks now ;) [16:27] !info instantbird [16:27] gnomefreak: Package instantbird does not exist in lucid [16:28] i've even been upoading fixes for it [16:28] !info instantbird maverick [16:28] gnomefreak: Package instantbird does not exist in maverick [16:28] chrisccoulson: what archive. search finds nothing as well [16:28] * gnomefreak confused [16:28] it's definately there [16:29] chrisccoulson: is the name instantbird? or something else [16:29] yep, it's instantbird [16:29] i have been wanting to try it but it never was uploaded [16:29] gnomefreak@Development:~$ search instantbird [16:29] gnomefreak@Development:~$ [16:30] it was sync'd from debian and then we've uplaoded several ubuntu-specific build fixes for it too [16:30] https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/instantbird [16:30] rmadison -u ubuntu instantbird ;) [16:31] chrisccoulson: any chance you can push to a PPA so i have access to it until i upgrade this box [16:32] gnomefreak - that's not something i've got time to do atm unfortunately [16:32] thats fine [16:32] i suspect that the maverick build will just run on lucid though ;) [16:32] * gnomefreak can always rebuild it for lucid PPA [16:32] it's built on the same gecko version [16:33] tell me this didnt replace chatzilla or even runs in browser at all [16:33] * gnomefreak thinking it was a stand alone app [16:33] gnomefreak, it's unrelated to chatzilla [16:34] but it is a standalone app [16:34] but if it is depending on gecko/xul [16:34] ok so its not even like chatzilla [16:34] good [16:35] grabbing it [16:35] thanks [17:11] lfaraone: I don't know, asac or chrisccoulson might be better suited to answer [17:12] i'm not sure i'd feel comfortable with answering that question either [17:12] no yelling at me. [17:12] :\ [17:14] micahg: I see. [17:16] heh, archive rebuild test next week [17:16] gnomefreak: well, that's one problem with instantbird is that it uses its own copy of libpurple [17:16] that will mean no PPA's i guess ;) [17:16] ugh [17:17] was just following the RT meeting ;) [17:18] micahg - oh, i didn't realise it was using it's own copy of libpurple. debian are usually pretty strict with that sort of thing [17:19] debian 569946 [17:19] Debian bug 569946 in instantbird "Blocker bug to keep instantbird out of testing until it uses the standard copy of libpurple" [Serious,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/569946 [17:19] that's why it won't be in squeeze :) [17:19] ah [17:19] chrisccoulson: I assume you're waiting on xulrunner uploads on the nspr outcome [17:20] micahg - yeah, i just opened the changelog entries though to save me time later [17:20] micahg - we've got a freeze exception from the release team for 3.6.9 too [17:20] that's good :) [17:21] micahg: that is consistant for 1 or both of my bugs? [17:21] but that doesn't mean we should use it necessarily [17:21] gnomefreak: ? [17:21] seb128 asked me if i could fix the crashreporting bug before beta, and i said that there wouldn't be much point unless we uploaded 3.6.9 [17:21] micahg: i filed 2 bugs one on font and one on chat rooms [17:22] gnomefreak: I saw, but bugsquad's initial response should be can you test in a maverick VM to see if it happens there :) [17:22] micahg - have you been testing 3.6.9 yet? [17:22] chrisccoulson: yes, seems ok [17:22] micahg - yeah, and there aren't any new blockers yet since it was pushed out to the beta channel yesterday [17:22] but I don't use common sites like facebook and what not where there were regressions early in the cycle [17:23] i use facebook [17:23] * chrisccoulson hangs head in shame [17:23] ;) [17:23] i didn't just admit to that really [17:23] chrisccoulson: at least one of us can test then ;) [17:23] heh [17:24] * gnomefreak has a facebook account that i rarely use if i have ever used it [17:24] i try to be cool sometimes ;) [17:24] i've never played farmville though [17:24] i'm happy to say ;) [17:31] gnomefreak: I'll test your instantbird issues when I upgrade to maverick next week [17:32] i know what we need for instantbird.... [17:32] ....messaging indicator support! [17:32] :) [17:32] micahg: ok ikm running it on Lucid atm [17:32] chrisccoulson: if we make it an extension, we can use it in both :) [17:32] gnomefreak: yes, but I won't fix it if it's not broke in maverick :) [17:33] k [17:33] micahg - yeah. i spoke to the guy who wrote the existing thunderbird extension this week [17:33] it _should_ be the same [17:33] he's pretty keen to get it in to ubuntu [17:33] gnomefreak: only if you do a rebuild :) [17:33] i don't see any reason why we couldn't make it work for all mozilla apps that deal with messaging ;) [17:34] chrisccoulson: exactly :) [17:34] thats easy enough but at least it works. let me know about maverick and if i have to ill rebuild for lucid and test it [17:36] and links dont work it in damn [17:38] gnomefreak: I can push a backport to my backports PPA if you like [17:38] micahg: i remember why i couldnt add ingnoreabi to /xorg.conf. i am unablet o have that file i have to remove it to get any kind of UI [17:38] gnomefreak: yeah, xorg.conf is gone by default [17:38] micahg: that works for me. [17:44] if i add the file i get no UI and adding ingoreabi fails to help it drops me into TTY for some damn reason, but if i get everything backed up i will upgrade this box [17:45] maybe next week sometime [18:13] anyone using an irc bouncer here? i'm sick of my disconnections [18:15] hi fta [18:15] chrisccoulson, hi [18:15] i saw in one of the other channels that there might be an archive rebuild test next week [18:15] just thought i'd let you know ;) [18:15] oh my [18:15] that will mean long queues for PPA's again [18:18] i'm looking for an irc bouncer/bnc/proxy, any idea? something that resends me what i missed during disconnections [18:19] ~15y ago, i had one, but i don't remember what it was [18:19] i'm not sure, i don't use one [18:20] !info znc [18:21] uh? [18:21] fta: znc (source: znc): an advanced IRC bouncer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.078-1 (lucid), package size 863 kB, installed size 2292 kB [18:21] !info psybnc [18:21] fta: Package psybnc does not exist in lucid [18:21] bouhh [18:22] !info miau [18:22] fta: Package miau does not exist in lucid [18:26] grr === fta_ is now known as fta [18:30] fta: quassel has a client/server(proxy) option [18:30] !info quassel [18:30] fta: quassel (source: quassel): KDE/Qt-based IRC client. In component main, is optional. Version 0.6.1-0ubuntu1 (lucid), package size 757 kB, installed size 2676 kB [18:31] bbiab [18:31] no, i already have a client (xchat), i want a bnc that i can run (most probably over ssh) on one of my server [18:31] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BNC_(software) [18:31] !info sbnc [18:31] micahg: sbnc (source: sbnc): an IRC proxy for multiple users. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2-17 (lucid), package size 237 kB, installed size 784 kB [18:31] bye :) [18:33] !info ezbounce [18:33] fta: Package ezbounce does not exist in lucid === fta_ is now known as fta === fta_ is now known as fta === fta_ is now known as fta [21:18] jdstrand, mdeslaur: could we rush for chromium 5.0.375.127 in lucid? i foresee another hot security update in less than a week [21:23] jdstrand: ^ are we waiting for gyp to make it to -updates before we can build chromium for -proposed? [21:23] jdstrand: or can we just pocket-copy chromium-browser now? [21:34] i see 13 security fixes for the next one, but i seems it will be v6, hence, it will need the new ffmpeg codecs too [21:34] -i+it [21:36] fta: ouch [21:37] mdeslaur, yeah, but i prefer to land more releases with fixes rather than live with those vulnerabilities [21:40] fta: definitely [21:42] fta: oh, ffmpeg has it's own chromium package...cool...I thought it was the system ffmpeg [21:42] yep === fta_ is now known as fta [21:55] mdeslaur: I have gyp in the ubuntu-security-proposed [21:57] mdeslaur: meh [21:58] what is in -proposed was built with -updates [21:59] d'oh [21:59] looking at the build log, we should be ok to copy it to -security when it is time [21:59] the same version is in -proposed and ubuntu-security-proposed :( [21:59] I think I am going to just pocket copy chromium [21:59] jdstrand: how did it get built with -updates, wasn't it pocket-copied from the one in ubuntu-security-proposed? [22:00] I don't think so-- was it? [22:00] * jdstrand goes to see [22:00] jdstrand: oh, I thought you had did it :) [22:00] no [22:00] I think it was just uploaded [22:01] alright, I'll copy chromium, then rebuild gyp and copy it to -proposed to be safe [22:01] jdstrand: sounds good [22:02] fta: if we update any other dependencies like that in the future, we need to build them in the security PPA so we can copy it to -security, and not just -updates [22:02] k [22:03] fta: it's a little complicated for security updates as some people only use the -security repository for stability reasons [22:08] fta, mdeslaur: copied [22:08] jdstrand: thanks! [22:19] fta, mdeslaur: uploaded ubuntu2 for gyp to ubuntu-security-proposed [22:28] <[reed]> how do I figure out the status of bug 554099 making it's way to lucid? [22:28] Launchpad bug 554099 in linux-backports-modules-2.6.32 (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 9 other projects) "Qualcomm Gobi 2000 3G (gobi_loader/qcserial) broken (affects: 56) (dups: 4) (heat: 341)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/554099 [22:37] i just installed appmenu-gtk, and i can't even run FF4 with it installed now! [22:37] it crashes even before the window opens [22:40] <[reed]> chrisccoulson: how do I figure out the status of bug 554099 making it's way to lucid? [22:40] <[reed]> :) [22:40] Launchpad bug 554099 in linux-backports-modules-2.6.32 (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 9 other projects) "Qualcomm Gobi 2000 3G (gobi_loader/qcserial) broken (affects: 56) (dups: 4) (heat: 341)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/554099 [22:42] [reed] - the status of the lucid task for linux-backports-modules would suggest it's already in lucid-proposed for testing [22:42] (although i'm not particularly familiar with how the kernel team works) [22:42] <[reed]> chrisccoulson: yeah, that's what I thought, too, but if I pull lucid-proposed, I don't see linux-backports-modules-wwan-lucid-generic [22:43] oh, the status has a different meaning to every other team it seems [22:43] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/554099/comments/115 [22:43] Launchpad bug 554099 in linux-backports-modules-2.6.32 (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 9 other projects) "Qualcomm Gobi 2000 3G (gobi_loader/qcserial) broken (affects: 56) (dups: 4) (heat: 341)" [Undecided,Invalid] [22:43] ah, ok. it's actually sat in the queue now [22:43] it just needs approving by someone on the SRU team [22:43] <[reed]> which queue [22:44] <[reed]> how can I get the packages to install myself for now? [22:44] <[reed]> jdstrand: aren't you on the SRU team? :p [22:44] [reed] - https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text= [22:44] although you can only access the source packages there [22:45] they don't get built until they've been approved [22:45] <[reed]> ah === fta_ is now known as fta [23:02] micahg - it's a public holiday here on monday [23:02] so i won't be working again until tuesday next week [23:03] chrisccoulson: k, I'll watch for regressions/new builds on FF3.6.9 and take appropriate action, thanks for the heads up [23:03] thanks [23:03] chrisccoulson: enjoy your day off :) [23:03] i need to get someone to approve ff3.6.9 actually. i'd like to see it built and published before i get up in the morning [23:03] hopefully I'll have the xul192 nspr issue solved by tuesday [23:04] cool, thanks [23:04] chrisccoulson: well, if it's not built by Sat night, I'll try to get someone to push it through [23:05] I'm about to take off as well, ttyl [23:06] ok, no problem [23:06] chrisccoulson: if I get the issue solved, is it worth me trying to find someone to push up the builds for Thunderbird/xulrunner-1.9.2 or can it wait till you get back tuesday? [23:06] i'll speak to you on tuesday (although i might pop online occasionally at the weekend) [23:07] tuesday will probably be a bit late to do any more builds, so those will likely have to wait until after beta [23:07] <[reed]> chrisccoulson: what holiday is Monday? [23:07] chrisccoulson: even in the security PPA? [23:07] [reed] - it's just a public holiday here in the UK [23:07] it's the "summer" bank holiday, although it doesn't feel much like summer ;) [23:08] micahg, oh, yeah, we can get them in to the security PPA [23:08] chrisccoulson: that's what I'm wondering, should I get one of the security people to push to the security PPA or wait till you get back tuesday [23:08] i don't mind. i suppose it can probably wait until tuesday [23:08] <[reed]> ah [23:08] chrisccoulson: k, thanks [23:18] mdeslaur, also, for ffmpeg 0.6, we need libvpx.. NEW in lucid :0 [23:44] <[reed]> GAH [23:44] <[reed]> I added ppa:kernel-ppa/pre-proposed [23:44] <[reed]> and apparently, those packages aren't compatible with each other [23:44] <[reed]> site [23:44] <[reed]> sigh [23:47] [reed] -you could try asking in #ubuntu-kernel [23:47] although, i suspect a lot of them might be sleeping now though [23:57] <[reed]> yeah [23:57] <[reed]> I guess I'll build my kernel the hard way :) [23:58] heh, i've not done that for a while ;)