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jibelara, Hi, while reading the testcase wiki I've found  no testcase that cover the upgrade from an iso to the current -updates ?09:26
jibelara what do you think about adding these cases ?09:27
arajibel, can you explain the use case, please? I don't think I got it09:27
arajibel, et.... bonjour :)09:28
jibelara, the rationale is that we test every single package that goes to -updates with the SRU process09:28
arajibel, yes09:28
jibelbut we never test that a fresh installation from an iso is upgradeable to the version -updates09:28
arajibel, ah, ok, like installing the 10.04 and then update09:28
jibelyes, that's it09:29
jibele.g I use a livecd with 10.04.109:29
jibeland the run a dist-upgrade to the latest version in -updates09:29
jibelwe could add such test case for the latest release and latest LTS and run it maybe once a month09:30
arajibel, sounds good, I like it09:31
arajibel, maybe we can automate that as well09:31
jibelara, give me 1mn to find an issue that could have been avoided.09:31
jibelara, bug 557023 and bug 591207, cjwatson fixed in maverick and will be fixed in 10.04.209:33
ubot4Launchpad bug 557023 in usb-creator (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "update-initramfs: deferring update (trigger activated) / cp: cannot stat `/vmlinuz': No such file or directory (affects: 95) (dups: 47) (heat: 471)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/55702309:34
ubot4Launchpad bug 591207 in casper (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 1 other project) "Casper's USB update-initramfs shim should look for initrd.img in /boot (affects: 3) (dups: 2) (heat: 72)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/59120709:34
jibelara, and yes that could be automated. Maybe the auto-upgrade-tester already covers it.09:35
arajibel, auto-upgrade-tester?09:35
jibelara, that's a tool developed by mvo as part of update-manager to test release upgrades09:37
arajibel, OK, the one used to create mvo's report?09:37
jibelara, maybe. Can you point me to that report. the package is ... auto-upgrade-tester09:38
arahttp://people.canonical.com/~mvo/automatic-upgrade-testing09:38
araI didn't know that mvo's tool was packaged, thanks for sharing09:41
jibelara, yes that what he used.09:41
jibelara, I didn't know you didn't knew :)09:41
jibelara, the source package is update-manager09:42
arajibel, cool, then we could add that test to cover that, and maybe we can ask mvo to add it to his run09:42
jibelmvo, ^^^09:44
jibelara, I can draft the test cases if you wish.09:45
arajibel, that would be great, thanks09:45
mvowhat needs to be added? sorry, missed part of the context here. but I can certainly add it09:49
mvoI think :)09:49
mvoso automatic 10.04 (stock) upgrades to 10.04-updates ?09:51
persiaWell, and 10.04.x (stock) upgrades to 10.04-updates09:51
arahey persia, mvo: nice to see you around09:55
jibelmvo,  yes. These cases are currently not covered. I pointed ara to bug 557023 and bug 591207 which could have been avoided09:56
ubot4Launchpad bug 557023 in usb-creator (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "update-initramfs: deferring update (trigger activated) / cp: cannot stat `/vmlinuz': No such file or directory (affects: 95) (dups: 47) (heat: 471)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/55702309:56
ubot4Launchpad bug 591207 in casper (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 1 other project) "Casper's USB update-initramfs shim should look for initrd.img in /boot (affects: 3) (dups: 2) (heat: 72)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/59120709:56
jibelWe'd like to run them automatically on a monthly basis for the latest stable release and the latest LTS09:56
jibelmvo, and I was wondering if auto-upgrade-tester could do that09:57
mvojibel: I think it can, let me add a test profile for this09:58
mvojibel: I can run it as part of the normal rotine (daily)09:58
mvojibel: what profiles do you need? just ubuntu-desktop? I guess ideally all  ,) ?09:59
jibelmvo, not sure that daily is useful, there is 1 large batch of packages pushed to -updates once a week. So weekly would be enough.10:00
mvook10:00
jibelmvo, all of course!10:01
jibelmvo, are you able to test different arch too ?10:02
mvohaha, I excepted nothing else ;)10:02
mvoin theory yes, but not easily, it requires a kvm/qemu that is capable of running the arch. so I guess for arm we should be ok, I have no idea how fast/slow it is10:03
persiapowerpc should work as well.10:03
jibelamd64 ?10:03
persiaBoth are very slow, and both occasionally break when certain operations are performed.10:03
mvopommerac is amd64 so kvm should be able to do 64 as well10:03
mvothanks persia I have no experience with how well they work. if its stable enough for a release upgrade we can add them too (the machine has resources left)10:04
jibelgreat, that covers nearly everything. Only the liveusb with persistent storage will need to be run manually then.10:05
persiaFor lucid, I used them both a lot: armel worked OK, and powerpc not so well.  For maverick, I've had occasional crashes with both of them attempting to install metapackages.10:05
persialiveusb with persistent storage can be modelled in qemu/kvm.10:06
jibelpersia, with 1 virtual devices to simulate to boot device and another named casper-rw for the storage  ?10:08
persiaWith one virtual USB device with 2 partitions (losetup/kpartx) to simulate everything.10:09
jibelpersia, oh okay. Never tried that.10:11
mvojibel: what about testing upgrades to -proposed instead (or in addition)?11:07
jibelmvo, not instead. security updates are not in proposed. if a version in -proposed superseded a version in -security we would skip the current version in -security/-updates11:11
jibelmvo, furthermore some packages are broken in -proposed for weeks (like the current version of gallery2 for example)11:12
mvojibel: ok11:12
jibelmvo, so we would report them everyday and that's not relevant because the current release is fine.11:12
jibelmvo, I don't think it's worth spending cpu cycle on it.11:12
jibelmvo,  even cycle/s/11:13
jibelmvo, and oh, not all of updates are in -proposed since the packages are deleted.11:15
mvojibel: thanks, that makes sense, I let a test run over lunch and if its good push to pommerac soon(ish)11:15
jibelmvo, great. You *rock* ;)11:16
* mvo blushes11:17
njinHello to all uby64 20100827, ubiquity bug 62525813:19
ubot4Launchpad bug 625258 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ubiquity crashed with UnboundLocalError in part_ask_option_changed() (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/62525813:19
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