[00:00] <duffydack> anyway I`m off to bed.. I always get headaches when dealing with the free b43 driver.. Its utterly useless afaic
[00:00] <aguinaldo> klkl
[00:00] <hiexpo> lol
[00:00] <duffydack> never worked ever for me.. 3 different laptops with broadcom
[00:00] <sabayonuser> duffydack: that command dint work
[00:00] <CyberJesus> wentor: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-256.44-driver.html
[00:01] <sabayonuser> duffydack: ok.. thanks again..
[00:01] <bobbytek> in general, what's the difference between ctrl-v and shift-ins? or are they one in the same?
[00:01]  * froggyman would really like some help with gparted
[00:02] <DJAshnar> What ya need, Froggyman?
[00:02] <rahduke> why doesnt the ubuntu main site even mention the fact that there are virtually no viruses and no spyware in linux (ubuntu)??
[00:02] <rahduke> its a pretty big selling point dont y'all think?
[00:02] <hiexpo> !virus
[00:02] <rahduke> hiexpo: your a turd
[00:02] <CyberJesus> It's generally a good idea to search for drivers on the vendor homepage, if you don't mind using propie
[00:02] <CyberJesus> propietary drivers*
[00:02] <bobbytek> rahduke: you're
[00:02] <froggyman> DJAshnar: I'm trying to extend my linux ext4 partition by shriking my windows NTFS partition, but it doesn't let me do anything to the NTFS partition, but I know I have 135GB of free space on there
[00:03] <rahduke> im asking why its not being advertised to solicit new users
[00:03] <IdleOne> rahduke: Please be polite
[00:03] <DJAshnar> Do you have the latest Gparted?
[00:03] <sabayonuser> hiexpo any reason why it work in opensuse
[00:03] <rahduke> bobbytek: so u read my comment... any thoughts?
[00:03] <bobbytek> no, just parsed it
[00:03] <bobbytek> didn't pass the grammar check
[00:03] <hiexpo> sabayonuser,  different kernel and drivers install on it
[00:03] <froggyman> DJAshnar: no, 5.1 its the one on the 10.04 ubuntu disk
[00:04] <DJAshnar> Download the LiveCD for Gparted and try that :)
[00:04] <JuJuBee> I have larger music collection.  Want to make it available to my children via nfs mounting.  However, no good app to sync music to iPod and be player on linux so I use windows vm to sync iPod so music is currently on ntfs partition.  Suggestions?
[00:04] <rahduke> lol i dont use correct grammar for chatting in my personal life
[00:04] <DJAshnar> Works WONDERS :)  Even tho I had to boot it in absolute safe mode LOL
[00:04] <hope_> can anyone here help me get my could setup, i am new to this i think i have my Controler setup correctly and my node setup correctly
[00:04] <rahduke> im not sure why ppl would
[00:04] <samoangunner> hi is anyone having a problem with the desktop crashing all the time?
[00:04] <hiexpo> sabayonuser,  speaking of wifi light is the switch turned on   /
[00:05] <hiexpo> sabayonuser,  you have the switch off no wonder
[00:05] <rahduke> i finally did a fresh install of 10.04 for a comp i built for my buddy, boy o boy its a pleasure
[00:05] <samoangunner> My desktop crashes all the time. I have reloaded ubuntu so many time and still it crashes
[00:05] <froggyman> DJAshnar: okay, thanks. I'll give that a try
[00:06] <samoangunner> I can still move my mouse around but no programs and most directories dont work.
[00:06] <hiexpo> i should have caught that before
[00:06] <DJAshnar> yw, froggyman
[00:06] <rahduke> by ver 12.04 id say ubuntu will be the best OS hands down no argument possible
[00:06] <samoangunner> After I reboot then its ok
[00:06] <IdleOne> rahduke: please take the chatter to #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:06] <sabayonuser> hiexpo: the switch doesn't do anything
[00:06] <rahduke> ok
[00:07] <sabayonuser> i tried several times
[00:07] <hope_> can anyone here help me get my could setup, i am new to this i think i have my Controler setup correctly and my node setup correctly
[00:07] <samoangunner> an ideas anyone?
[00:07] <hiexpo> sabayonuser,  what kinda laptop
[00:07] <hiexpo> hp / compac
[00:07] <sabayonuser> hp pavillion zv6000
[00:07] <sabayonuser> 1.7
[00:07] <WinstonSmith_> hi ppl :)
[00:08] <sabayonuser> in xp, opensuse the light comes on
[00:08] <katoen> samoangunner: not really. this is a clean installation? no other software/drivers installed?
[00:08] <hiexpo> ok listen do this again  then if the end is red click it and re enter the same command ok
[00:08] <hiexpo> lspci -vnn | grep 14e4
[00:08] <sabayonuser> i think in knoppix and/or mint.. not tried lately
[00:09] <samoangunner> I had the same problem using mint9
[00:09] <samoangunner> I dont understand
[00:09] <sabayonuser> ok
[00:09] <samoangunner> I have two laptops and one desktop all running linux and they all do the same thing
[00:09] <sabayonuser> entered it twice and still red
[00:10] <|Kellan|> are extended atributes enabled in 10.4 server for ext4?
[00:10] <samoangunner> I wipe the harddrives clean and install from live usb and still they crash????
[00:10] <hiexpo> right click on the network manager and see if networking is enabled
[00:11] <hiexpo> and wireless
[00:11] <samoangunner> after install I will update in the terminal
[00:11] <katoen> samoangunner: that's odd.. so you have 3 computers, tried 2 distros on the mand they crash in the same way?
[00:11] <samoangunner> yes
[00:11] <samoangunner> the desktop is new and the laptops are about 1-2 years old
[00:12] <sabayonuser>  yes.. all 3 have check mark
[00:12] <sabayonuser> networking ,  wireless, notifications are enable
[00:12] <hiexpo> sabayonuser,  all 3 there are only 2
[00:12] <samoangunner> like right now my laptop here is frozen
[00:12] <samoangunner> I can move the mouse and nothing more
[00:12] <sabayonuser> the icon on the panel has an "!"
[00:13] <Te3-BloodyIron> can anyone here help me with a bluetooth daemon issue i'm having?
[00:13] <samoangunner> the taskbar is not there no more
[00:13] <samoangunner> I can only see the background
[00:13] <sabayonuser> hiexpo: yes.. 2 for network
[00:13] <CyberJesus> samoangunner: Do you still have the iso image you are using?
[00:13] <katoen> samoangunner: can you replicate the 'crash'? or does it happen at random?
[00:13] <samoangunner> ctrl + alt + del does not work
[00:13] <CyberJesus> Checksum it with md5 or something, it might be corrupted
[00:14] <samoangunner> random
[00:14] <katoen> did you try ctrl + alt + f1 to exit the GUI?
[00:14] <samoangunner> yes I have the iso
[00:14] <Azjo> hi, when starting up empathy, i cannot see irc main command list, how do i open that??
[00:14] <WinstonSmith_> !search boot
[00:14] <hiexpo> sabayonuser,  gonna have to sleep on this onebut i know it will work just not coming to me why
[00:14] <baba_b00ie> can someone tell me how to reset or remove the keyring password  (ubuntu 10.04 64bit)
[00:15] <samoangunner> I have downloaded the iso three times
[00:15] <Te3-BloodyIron> is there a channel i can go to get help with the bluetooth daemon?
[00:15] <jarritos> Does Evolution support composing plain text email with format=flowed?
[00:15] <JuJuBee> Anybody able to help me figure out why nfs-kernel-server wont start?  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/484232/
[00:16] <WinstonSmith_> JuJuBee, is there a log in /var/log eg nfs.log ?
[00:16] <katoen> baba_b00ie: move the files in .gnome/keyrings/ and next time it asks for entering a passphrase, leave it empty
[00:16] <sabayonuser> hiexpo: thanks a ton.. i'll check with you later.. i have to log off for a while
[00:16] <baba_b00ie> ty
[00:16] <hiexpo> sabayonuser,  ya i will research it also
[00:17] <samoangunner> when it freezes like this and I press the power button it would go to a black screen and have  * checking battery state.... and gets stuck there
[00:17] <katoen> good night ppl
[00:17] <sabayonuser> cool.. take care..
[00:17] <JuJuBee> WinstonSmith_:  no log
[00:17] <neil_d> I am trying to use rdesktop to connect to a local server, I have xrdp installed on the server, but when I try to log in I get "connecting to 127.0.0.1 5910" "error - problem connecting" :(    this looks like a VNC port number.  what is wrong?
[00:17] <wolfbiker> hey guys, how do I get my webcam to work on ubuntu?
[00:17]  * travisgriggs feels dumb and blind. Is there really no way to set the base font in gedit? I want some big ol characters...
[00:17] <samoangunner> with more errors
[00:17] <zealiod> I'd like to build a distro for myself that just runs stripped down gnome and firefox.... nothing else... can this be done?
[00:17] <Te3-BloodyIron> neil_d have you tried forcing 3389?
[00:17] <octaviano> How CAN I DO to the ubuntu found a new tv capture usb pixel view PLAY TV ULTRA?
[00:18] <Te3-BloodyIron> octaviano: that sentence does not make sense. please rephrase
[00:18] <cordobestia> esto es en ingles?
[00:18] <neil_d> Te3-BloodyIron: what do you mean?   I am using the command "rdesktop <host>" on the remote.
[00:18] <samoangunner> I have to hold the power button down to shut the computer off
[00:19] <Azjo> i have set up irc, but when is start up empathy again next time, i have no chance of finding anywhere to write commands. where on earth is it??
[00:19] <Te3-BloodyIron> neil_d: try rdestop host:3389
[00:19] <Te3-BloodyIron> to force it to use 3389
[00:19] <octaviano> I have a lot of problems with my PIXEL VIEW PLAY TV ULTRA (USB) to work with my ubuntu 10.04
[00:19] <Te3-BloodyIron> the port number rather
[00:19] <Te3-BloodyIron> octaviano: what kind of problems?
[00:20] <cordobestia> como me paso a un chat en español?
[00:20] <Fableflame> I have a question. I've noticed the three extra virtual desktops at the bottom right hand corner of my desktop, and I was running if you could run multiple Desktop Environments? Like have Gnome on one desktop, Xfce on another, and KDE on another?
[00:20] <geirha> !spanish | cordobestia
[00:20] <WinstonSmith_> JuJuBee, try dmesg | grep nfs to see if there is anything related
[00:20] <octaviano> it isnt work
[00:20] <seekwill> Fableflame: Why?
[00:20] <cordobestia> thanks geirtha
[00:21] <seekwill> Fableflame: Those are workspaces
[00:21] <cordobestia> !spanish
[00:21] <Fableflame> seekwil: oh, so you can't do that?
[00:21] <octaviano> I saw anythings about my PLAY TV USB ULTRA , but there isnt tutorials about PLAY TV ULTRA ----USB-- to ubuntu 10.04
[00:21] <seekwill> Fableflame: no
[00:21] <seekwill> Fableflame: Bigger question, why?
[00:22] <Fableflame> seekwill: i just thought it would be cool if that was possible
[00:23] <Indianos> hey anyone into penetration testing?? i need a hand...
[00:23] <Indianos> i mean a bit of help here
[00:23] <JuJuBee> WinstonSmith_: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/484236/
[00:23] <Indianos> i am talking about pure hacking of windows servers
[00:24] <Indianos> anyone?
[00:24] <WinstonSmith_> JuJuBee, can you pastebin /var/log/daemon.log plz
[00:25] <Indianos> hellooooooooooooo
[00:25] <cordobestia> where I write! Spanish to change the channel?
[00:25] <WinstonSmith_> !conduct
[00:25] <WinstonSmith_> !conduct | Indianos
[00:26] <cordobestia> where I write !Spanish to change the channel?
[00:26] <OerHeks> !es
[00:26] <WinstonSmith_> cordobestia, Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.
[00:26] <ThePCKid> Say "/JOIN #ubuntu-es"
[00:26] <cordobestia> gracias winston
[00:27] <WinstonSmith_> no problema hombre
[00:27] <cordobestia> sin comillas?
[00:27] <WinstonSmith_> yep
[00:27] <cordobestia> ah ahi lei jeje
[00:27] <ThePCKid> !es
[00:27] <JuJuBee> WinstonSmith_:very large, want me to grep for something to shrink?
[00:27]  * blet Gets ThePCKid es <%)
[00:27] <zfe> !it
[00:27]  * blet Gets zfe it <%)
[00:27] <zfe> well, the italian version is much ruder
[00:27] <WinstonSmith_> JuJuBee, try grep for nfs plz sry
[00:30] <JuJuBee> WinstonSmith_: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/484238/
[00:31] <Fableflame> Hey, I installed Xfce via Synaptic, but when I rebooted it didn't give me the option to pick Gnome or Xfce when I logged in
[00:32] <ThePCKid> Does it login into Xfce?
[00:32] <Fableflame> Nope, logs into Gnome automatically
[00:32] <ThePCKid> Oh
[00:32] <Milez> 5.1 chan audio via HDMI on a revo 1600 - anyone successful in this?
[00:33] <WinstonSmith_> JuJuBee,  do a netstat -anptu | grep 2049 plz
[00:33] <WinstonSmith_> and paste output
[00:34] <ThePCKid> @Fableflame: Does the "Session" option appear on the bottom of the screen when you're logging in?
[00:34] <JuJuBee> WinstonSmith_: nothing
[00:34] <Fableflame> ThePCKid: I didn't see it. I saw the shut down button and the Universal Access button
[00:35] <ThePCKid> @Fableflame: Try double clicking your username
[00:35] <ridin> JuJuBee: go to user and groups and edit your user
[00:35] <Fableflame> ThePCKid, alright, brb
[00:35] <WinstonSmith_> JuJuBee, nothing how exactly? no output at all??
[00:35] <ThePCKid> @Fableflame: Okay
[00:35] <JuJuBee> WinstonSmith_: nothing at all, just prompt again
[00:36] <JuJuBee> ridin : why?
[00:36] <WinstonSmith_> JuJuBee, hmmm thats really strange
[00:36] <ridin> JuJuBee: there's an option for auto-login and stuff
[00:37] <JuJuBee> ridin: think you meant Fableflame
[00:37] <WinstonSmith_> JuJuBee, cause the error you posted indicates that u already have a service running at that port hence the : nfssvc: Address already in use
[00:37] <sombra> hola alllllgien abla español?
[00:37] <WinstonSmith_> k gimme a min
[00:37] <WinstonSmith_> !spanish | sombra
[00:37] <sombra> gracias
[00:37] <WinstonSmith_> de nada
[00:38] <JuJuBee> WinstonSmith_:  got me... I don't know about that.
[00:38] <ridin> oh.
[00:38] <Fableflame> ThePCKid, that worked, but I think I like Gnome better
[00:38] <Fableflame> However, I've yet to try KDE
[00:38] <ThePCKid> @Fableflame: Your welcome. To try KDE, install the kubuntu-desktop package
[00:38] <WinstonSmith_> JuJuBee, try a sudo killall nfsd and then try to start the service again
[00:39] <ThePCKid> @Fableflame: From the Ubuntu Software Manager
[00:39] <Soraya> Hola
[00:39] <ThePCKid> !es | Soraya
[00:39] <EastDallas> I'm trying to back my home directory up to a Windows XP shared directory.  How do I mount the network share so I can use rsync?  I am unable to find anything on mounting cifs or smbfs without credentials.  Remember, this is an XP share, so it does not require a username or password.  Thanks.
[00:40] <FredFlintstone> pretty new to linux here, like it, just installed lucid , and vlc and xchat. What would be a few popular packages most people use, like 10 most installed on ubuntu or similar?
[00:40] <JuJuBee> WinstonSmith_:  no process found
[00:41] <ridin> FredFlintstone: maybe asking bestbot in #ubuntu-bots
[00:41] <JuJuBee> WinstonSmith_: /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server stop then start but it takes a while to start it...
[00:42] <FredFlintstone> thanks ridin
[00:42] <EastDallas> FredFlintstone: Docky, Gimp, Chromium, Alien Arena, Pidgin, Hulu Desktop, Amarok, Ardour
[00:42] <hiexpo> FredFlintstone,  sudo apt-get moo
[00:42] <WinstonSmith_> JuJuBee, do u still have the error in /var/log/daemon.log ?
[00:42] <FFForever> is there a simple way to remove the kde crud from gnome and vice versa?
[00:42] <rww> !puregnome
[00:42] <rww> !purekde
[00:42] <Fableflame> Empathy > Pidgin
[00:42] <Cass> anyone know if sun-java6-jdk is still anstallable from apt ?
[00:42] <JuJuBee> WinstonSmith_: nfs-kernel-server still starting...
[00:43] <Cass> having issues doing so
[00:43] <rww> Cass: add the partner repository, it moved there.
[00:43] <rww> !partner | Cass
[00:43] <WinstonSmith_> JuJuBee,  do a netstat -anptu | grep 2049 again
[00:43] <Cass> rww done that Err http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ lucid/partner sun-java6-jdk 6.20dlj-1ubuntu3
[00:43] <Cass>   Bad header line
[00:43] <Cass> rww any ideas ?
[00:43] <EastDallas> Cass: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk
[00:44] <JuJuBee> WinstonSmith_: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/484244/
[00:44] <rww> Cass: which command did you issue that gave that output?
[00:45] <Cass> http://pastebin.com/kviF495M
[00:45] <FredFlintstone> that best bot channel isnt working , so ...
[00:45] <FredFlintstone> pretty new to linux here, like it, just installed lucid , and vlc and xchat. What would be a few popular packages most people use, like 10 most installed on ubuntu or similar?
[00:45] <WinstonSmith_> JuJuBee, nfsd is running now as u can see : 2049            0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      9647/rpc.nfsd
[00:45] <JuJuBee> WinstonSmith_: BTW, nfs-kernel-server still starting
[00:45] <WinstonSmith_> JuJuBee, how do u know?
[00:45] <WinstonSmith_> did u press enter in the terminal
[00:46] <JuJuBee> waiting for the [ok] and prompt back
[00:46] <WinstonSmith_> try connecting with a client to the server now
[00:46] <EastDallas> FredFlintstone: Docky, Gimp, Chromium, Alien Arena, Pidgin, Hulu Desktop, Amarok, Ardour
[00:46] <WinstonSmith_> did u press enter in the terminal
[00:46] <JuJuBee> WinstonSmith_: yes
[00:46] <Kirill> hi! I installed a package and messed up its default config files that apt-get installed in my /etc/ dir. how do I restore those? running apt-get remote + install again had no effect.
[00:46] <JuJuBee> what command from a remote machine?
[00:47] <Cass> rww any ideas ?
[00:47] <rww> Cass: The various errors in that pastebin are generally caused by your internet connection not being reliable.
[00:47] <geirha> Kirill: purge, then install
[00:47] <Cass> rww my internet connection is fine
[00:47] <Cass> rww i can d/l other stuff no probs
[00:48] <dude> hello all, I am having major probs with my network. ISP updated me today with a new DSL modem and now one of my ubuntu boxs will not connect
[00:48] <EastDallas> I really thought this would be an easy one for one of the 1200 users in this channel...
[00:48] <EastDallas> I'm trying to back my home directory up to a Windows XP shared directory. How do I mount the network share so I can use rsync? I am unable to find anything on mounting cifs or smbfs without credentials. Remember, this is an XP share, so it does not require a username or password. Thanks.
[00:48] <rww> Cass: that's not what lines 5, 9, 17, 89, 91, 95, and 97 of the pastebin imply :\
[00:48] <Cass> rww ok .. how to prove it ?
[00:48] <Kirill> geirha: thanks =0
[00:49] <Andorin> So it appears that sometimes, when I boot my Lucid box, USB devices will not automount when plugged in... and other partitions on my HDD don't appear in the Places menu. Any reason for this?
[00:49] <WALoeIII> I'm trying to build my own custom package for a PPA, I have figured out what all of the debian/ files in the source tree do and pretty much have it working. How do I manage the top level .dsc file though? I need that before I can debbuild -S
[00:49] <dude> Also, my netmanager applet is running but I cannot find it anywhere
[00:49] <Kirill> geirha: actually that didn't work. any other ideas?
[00:49] <WinstonSmith_> JuJuBee, sudo mount yourserver:/shareddirectory /wheretomountdirectory
[00:49] <rww> Cass: I'd probably do it by downloading a large file that has a known md5sum and then checksumming it.
[00:50] <Cass> rww http://pastebin.com/BTbR73zM
[00:50] <BluesKaj> dude , type route into the terminal, your gateway IP probly changed as well as the IPs the router assigned the pcs on your network
[00:50] <JuJuBee> WinstonSmith_: mount.nfs: mount to NFS server '192.168.6.1:/home/MUSIC' failed: RPC Error: Program not registered
[00:50] <piper69> have a question folks
[00:50] <Cass> rww i could go on all night with that .. a 2k packet ping .. completly stable
[00:50] <Azjo> any idea what i can do with this problem? jonas@jonas-ubuntu:~$ xrandr --output LVDS --mode 1600x1200
[00:50] <Azjo> warning: output LVDS not found; ignoring
[00:50] <rww> Cass: ping has nothing to do with download corruptions
[00:51] <Cass> rww no but it proves i can xfer larger packets than mu mtu is set at
[00:51] <piper69> when i do 'eho' it should show me who is logged in my system. but it doesn't show me sftp connections , why is that?
 destination is wrong, it shows 192.168.1.0
[00:51] <lysander89> hi guys, I need information on sending mail from a terminal, google says use "mail" but I don't know where to specify the SMTP server to send mail via
[00:51] <^james_foo^> Azjo: why do you think you have LVDS? try 'xrandr' alone and look at the output for the name... maybe it's LVDS-0 or so
[00:51] <geirha> Kirill: Sure you're trying the right package? Maybe the config is installed by one of the package's dependancies.
 how do I change that?
[00:52] <Kirill> geirha: perhaps =) how do I see the dependencies?
[00:52] <BluesKaj> dude that's apretty standard IP address for a router
[00:52] <piper69> when i do 'who' it should show me who is logged in my system. but it doesn't show me sftp connections , why is that?
[00:52] <Azjo> i dont even know what LVDS is, the resolution guide just tells me that. what is LVDS anyway?
[00:52] <^james_foo^> Azjo: or use 'xrandr --output <TAB>' (the bash completion feature)
[00:52] <geirha> Kirill: apt-cache depends package-name
 when i do 'route' on this box, it shows a completely dif ip
[00:53] <^james_foo^> Azjo: LVDS is the name on *some* notebooks for the internal tft...
[00:53] <FredFlintstone> EastDallas, thanks, gonna check them all out
[00:53] <Azjo> aha
 they both are on the same switch and router
[00:53] <^james_foo^> Azjo: or some other digitally connected tft... but it depends on the chipset
[00:53] <JuJuBee> WinstonSmith_: "Starting NFS kernel daemon       [fail]"
[00:53] <Kirill> geirha: hurray! thanks
[00:53] <wombatguy> ok my laptop has one of those enable / disable wireless buttons and it was set to enable but still showing as the orange light signifying disabled (blue when enabled) in windows hps wireless assistant showed it as wireless off despite enabled. I tried to turn it "on" in linux using my normal known methods to no avail. The only way to switch this was through wireless assistant in win. Somehow...
[00:54] <wombatguy> ...it was turned off by something in ubuntu any clues what
[00:54] <Azjo> i tried it without LVDS (only delete those 4) and then it gave me a long list of commands as far as i understand..
[00:54] <Cass> rww http://pastebin.com/83JUSzEr
[00:54] <Cass> rww that stable enough ?
[00:54] <^james_foo^> Azjo: 01:24 < ^james_foo^> Azjo: or use 'xrandr --output <TAB>' (the bash completion feature)
[00:54] <Azjo> lets start over: it thinks my monitor can only do 1024x768. i want it to run at 1600x1200. how do i do that?
[00:55] <EastDallas> I'm trying to back my home directory up to a Windows XP shared directory. How do I mount the network share so I can use rsync? I am unable to find anything on mounting cifs or smbfs without credentials. Remember, this is an XP share, so it does not require a username or password. Thanks.
[00:55] <Azjo> nvidia x server will only allow panning when i choose that..
[00:55] <wombatguy> ifup and ifconfig didn't show wlan0
[00:55] <BluesKaj> dude , look into the router page , usually something like "mynetwork" in your browser address bar , you should find the new assigned IPs listed for your netwoked boxes
[00:55] <wombatguy> when it was off
[00:55] <FredFlintstone> what about popular audio and/or video editing packages?
[00:56] <wombatguy> i was playing with openvpn before this happened but im not sure it was the culprit as i remember the wireless working after that
[00:56] <wombatguy> audio would be audacity
[00:56] <wombatguy> for linux I use whatever works the best for the task with video
[00:56] <JuJuBee> I second that for audacity
[00:56]  * Azjo is about to shove computer out of the window
[00:57]  * ThePCKid wants to know why he's doing that
[00:57] <hiexpo> ^audacity
[00:58] <^james_foo^> Azjo: well with nvidia or ati 'drivers' in the way, there are several possibilities. still, xrandr should give you a list of outputs and modes.... find the output. if the desired mode isn't listed, you can use the cvt tool too calculate parameters to add it
[00:58] <Azjo> how do i get that list of outputs and modes?
[00:59] <JuJuBee> WinstonSmith_: this is really frustrating.  I set up a fileserver in my classroom a few days ago using nfs-kernel-server and it took like 5 minutes start to finish AND it works.
[00:59] <wombatguy> type xrandr
[00:59] <wombatguy> in terminal
[00:59] <FredFlintstone> ok audacity for sure then, thanks for the tips folks
[00:59] <wombatguy> what do you want to do with video
[01:00] <WinstonSmith_> JuJuBee, try a apt-get purge nfs-kernel-server && apt-get install nfs-kernel-server. this will DELETE all nfs related config files
[01:00] <wombatguy> the options for free open video editors can be limiting unless you just want the basics and anything above that probably has some learning curve associated
[01:00] <wombatguy> if it's even available
[01:01] <JuJuBee> WinstonSmith_: k, trying now
[01:01] <WinstonSmith_> JuJuBee, did u install portmap ?
[01:01] <hiexpo> pure_hate,  howdy mate
[01:01] <wombatguy> I'm weird though I do most my most basic work with ffmpeg and other commandline options
 so, this computer that has internet connection wil not access router through browser...however, the computer that doesn't have internet connection will access router. Like I mentioned earlier, they are both on the same switch. Any ideas?? this is driving me crazy!
[01:01] <pure_hate> hola hiexpo
[01:02] <JuJuBee> WinstonSmith_:  already installed I believe
[01:02] <kthomas_vh> way to recover rm-ed files with filenames intact?
[01:02] <melik> is there any good GUI tools to build .deb packages
[01:02] <BluesKaj> dude, same switch ?  pls explain
[01:02] <JuJuBee> WinstonSmith_: Yes, already at newest version
[01:03] <hiexpo> melik,  alien
[01:03] <JuJuBee> and nfs-kernel-server still trying to start
[01:03] <dude> switch, like router but not...just divides the signal. The network ran 100% before he installed the updated modem
 switch, like router but not...just divides the signal. The network ran 100% before he installed the updated modem
[01:05] <wombatguy> melik: Alien converts package types like rpm to deb. What are you trying to create a package/deb for
[01:06] <dooglus> guys, I just installed ubuntu on a new computer.  the mic works in sound recorder, but only there.  it doesn't show up in the sound preferences meter thing
[01:06] <WinstonSmith> JuJuBee, do u still have the error in /var/log/daemon.log ? and in dmesg?
[01:06] <melik> wombatguy: a tiny program i wrote
[01:06] <dooglus> I'm not understanding how the sound recorder program can be picking up the mic when nothing else done
[01:06] <BluesKaj> ok, dude , a router without a modem , then the modem is assigning the IPs to the b oxes , can you access the modem thru a browser?
[01:06] <Wicked> !restricted
[01:07] <JuJuBee> WinstonSmith: yes
[01:07] <WinstonSmith> jujubee try to share a different folder
[01:08] <wombatguy> dooglus: what else doesn't it work in and what shows under input?
[01:09] <JuJuBee> WinstonSmith: my exports file is currently empty and NFS still trying to start
[01:09] <wombatguy> dooglus: what else doesn't it work in and what shows under input in sound preferences?
[01:09] <dooglus> wombatguy: i wanted it to work in skype  it doesn't
[01:09] <mazda01> anyone know why ubuntu after a fresh install of 10.04 from a usb stick would have a / partition that it's installed on FULL? 23 gb full????
[01:10] <hiexpo> mazda01,  cause you installed it that way
[01:10] <mazda01> it was a fresh install ALONG SIDE WINDOWS option within installer. it left windows 60 some gb and allocated 22 to / and 1 gb to swap. what could be taking up 22?
[01:10] <mazda01> ubuntu doesn't need 22 gb!
[01:10] <dooglus> wombatguy: in the input tab of sound properties, i see 'unamplified, 100%', not muted, and an 'input level' series of bars which stays blank no matter how loud i yell.  then a choice of 1 device to choose for sound input, called 'internal audio analog stereo'
[01:11] <ZykoticK9> mazda01, could you pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l" and "df -h"?
[01:11] <doctorZeus> can anyone recommend a better system monitor program than "system monitor" that comes with ubuntu?  I'm trying to track down what's causing cpu spikes and the sys monitor is little help.  It shows me both cores are pegged but when I go to the processes tab it doesn't show me anything pegging the cpu
[01:11] <WinstonSmith> JuJuBee, try killall avahi-daemon and then try to restart the nfsd
[01:11] <djonesuk> you just installed ubuntu and the / partition is full?
[01:11] <ZykoticK9> doctorZeus, top in a terminal?
[01:12] <JuJuBee> WinstonSmith: need to wait for nfs to finish trying to restart
[01:12] <jellow> doctorZeus: htop
[01:12] <mazda01> ZykoticK9, it's a friend computer that I am trying to convert, it's not mine. i issued that stuff already with him on the phone. fdisk shows sda1, sda3, sda5, and sda6. 5 being 22 gb and 6 being swap of 1 gb
[01:12] <WinstonSmith> JuJuBee, just killall nfsd
[01:12] <mazda01> convert him to ubuntu
[01:12] <Andorin> So it appears that sometimes, when I boot my Lucid box, USB devices will not automount when plugged in... and other partitions on my HDD don't appear in the Places menu. Any reason for this?
[01:12] <kthomas_vh> quickest dumb way to establish daily backups of a large dataset?
[01:13] <ZykoticK9> mazda01, i think you had better "see" the situtation then.  Best of luck.
[01:13] <mazda01> ZykoticK9, 1 being where windows is installed and 3 being the ext partition
[01:13] <JuJuBee> WinstonSmith: nfsd: no process found
[01:13] <mazda01> im trying to, i just don't understand why / would be full?
[01:13] <mazda01> df -h shows 0% free for / and 100% full
[01:13] <JuJuBee> WinstonSmith: finished trying to start ... invoke-rc.d: initscript nfs-kernel-server, action "start" failed.
[01:13] <dooglus> wombatguy: any ideas?
[01:13] <WinstonSmith> JuJuBee, then just killall avahi-daemon and then try to restart the nfsd
[01:14] <doctorZeus> Zykotick9:  top seems to do exactly what I'm looking for.. thanks much
[01:14] <wombatguy> not past that
[01:14] <ZykoticK9> doctorZeus, glad to help
[01:14] <doctorZeus> jellow: htop needs to be installed.  Is it better than the regular top?
[01:14] <wombatguy> i don't get the unamplified 100%
[01:14] <wombatguy> maybe google that
[01:15] <JuJuBee> WinstonSmith: OK, trying to start...
[01:15] <ActionParsnip> mazda01: try removing old unused kernels, ubuntu-docs and replace openoffice with abiword if you only use writer. Saves lots of space
[01:15] <jellow> doctorZeus: yes
[01:15] <WinstonSmith> JuJuBee, did it kill the avahi-daemon?
[01:15] <the-erm> anyone know a command similar to uptime, but shows when the machine was started?
[01:15] <n0a1ias> hey\
[01:15] <ActionParsnip> mazda01: the ubuntu-docs package is 250Mb
[01:15] <mazda01> ZykoticK9, so that's it. you can't try to help or troubleshoot? he's stuck in a login loop and when he go's to tty1 and tries sudo service gdm stop, and then startx cause I know plymouth has issues, he gets errors about not having space on /tmp to write to.
[01:16] <JuJuBee> WinstonSmith: hmmm, looks like it didnt
[01:16] <the-erm> that's a pretty long page
[01:16] <ActionParsnip> the-erm: if you use the uptime, you can subract it from the current date / time and work it out easily
[01:16] <n0a1ias> !bot | n0a1ias
[01:16] <BluesKaj> dude check this out , http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/
[01:16] <ZykoticK9> mazda01, i'm sorry if you aren't actually at the computer - i don't want to help, with a IRC / phone-relay support.  Maybe someone else will.  but good luck.
[01:16] <mazda01> you're not getting it, this is a 100gb hdd and he has like 80 gb free, ubuntu lucid installer was suppose to install ubuntu along side windows and it failed in my eyes. im trying to help him fix it now
[01:16] <the-erm> ActionParsnip: ok more work than I was hoping for.
[01:16] <JuJuBee> WinstonSmith: when I kill it, it restarts by itself
[01:17] <mazda01> ZykoticK9, understood.
[01:17] <dude> BluesKaj , thanks for the link. I am trying to get ISP tech on the phone as I keep seeing more and more issues with this
[01:17] <ActionParsnip> the-erm: its not that taxing, surely
[01:17] <ThePCKid> How do you make the icons show up in the "System" menu?
[01:17] <jrib> suggestions on how to send a 2gb file from ubuntu to an os x user?
[01:17] <OerHeks> !im
[01:17] <the-erm> ActionParsnip: if it's so easy then give me 1 line of code that'll do it :)
[01:17] <WinstonSmith> JuJuBee, ok do : sudo service avahi-daemon stop
[01:17] <ActionParsnip> jrib: sshfs
[01:17] <ubuntu> HOL TENGO UN PC Y NO ME FUNCION EL UDIO TIENE EL DRIVER INSTLDO PERO NO SE ESCUCH
[01:17] <mazda01> ActionParsnip, there are no old kernels, this is a fresh install
[01:18] <maco> !es | ubuntu
[01:18] <ubuntu> SEP
[01:18] <ActionParsnip> the-erm: uptime; date      then use your brain
[01:18] <JuJuBee> WinstonSmith: ok, now it stopped
[01:18] <ThePCKid> How do you make the icons show up in the "System" menu?
[01:18] <jrib> ActionParsnip: does that require me to give ssh access to the os x user?  I'd prefer not to
[01:18] <BluesKaj> dude, what make and model of modem is it ?
[01:18] <ridin> .hammertime
[01:18] <snadge> is there a graphical program which will display ludicrous amounts of information about wifi networks?
[01:18] <ridin> oh oops.
[01:18] <ActionParsnip> mazda01: ok then remove ubuntu-docs to free up the space. You should also remove openoffice.org to free up 300Mb and install Abiword which uses 12Mb
[01:19] <mazda01> ZykoticK9, heres one if you can answer it, can he do the install ubuntu along side windows again despite him already having a foobarred install on an ext4 partition?
[01:19] <jrib> ActionParsnip: maybe I'll just install apache :/
[01:19] <WinstonSmith> snadge, try wifiradar
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> jrib: or you can run the ssh server on the mac side
[01:19] <the-erm> ActionParsnip: So you can't do it.  I'd expect at least an awk.
[01:19] <jellow> snadge: you an try iwlist , or airodump
[01:19] <ZykoticK9> mazda01, he could yes - but i'm not sure they'd want too...
[01:19] <ThePCKid> How do you make the icons show up in the "System" menu?
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> jrib: you could also use dropbox if you have space on your account
[01:19] <mazda01> ActionParsnip, ok, will try that it's just baffling me that a fresh install along side windows using the installer would create a 22 gb partition and it would be full before he even logs in
[01:19] <WinstonSmith> !conduct | the-erm
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> the-erm: you could ask in #bash    so much easier to just use your mind
[01:19] <jrib> ActionParsnip: thanks for the suggestions :)
[01:20] <snadge> cool thanks guys :)
[01:20] <ThePCKid> How do you make the icons show up in the "System" menu?
[01:20] <mazda01> ZykoticK9, i meant, would it create a large mess or would it know to overwrite the foobared 22gb partition?
[01:20] <ZykoticK9> !repeat | ThePCKid
[01:20] <ActionParsnip> mazda01: i'd check the space used with disk analyser. A stock install is around the 5Gb mark
[01:20] <kalle_> if i install php5 will that add the package php5-cli also ?
[01:20] <the-erm> ActionParsnip: how many programing languages do you know?
[01:20] <jrib> kalle_: no, don't think so
[01:20] <dude> BluesKaj it is a Clearaccess smartRG, I have absolutely 0 experience with this type
[01:21] <mazda01> ActionParsnip, he can't get in due to not being able to write to /tmp. im trying to help him from a tty1.
[01:21] <ZykoticK9> mazda01, i'm "guessing" there is something going on that isn't being communicated to you correctly - ubuntu doesn't take up 22GB!
[01:21] <ActionParsnip> the-erm: i know a little bash, a little C / C++, a little pascal and a little BBC BASIC
[01:21] <ActionParsnip> mazda01: gotcha, i'd rip out openoffice as a start, lots of free space
[01:21] <JuJuBee> WinstonSmith: nfs still trying to start... :-(
[01:21] <cbrinker> Hello, does anyone know of an ubuntu package equivalent to the "dpkg-reconfigure locales" command?
[01:21] <mazda01> ZykoticK9, i know, that's what I said. I think the partition table got messed up somehow and or size is being incorrectly identified.
[01:21] <undecim> Is there some way to make preload never preload from a  specific directory? I think that preload in combination with ecryptfs is causing problems, and making it ignore /home/ would solve that. Better yet, can I make it ignore everything in home except .ecryptfs? Maybe with a regex?
[01:21] <ZykoticK9> ThePCKid, you can use System / Preference / Main Menu to add new items to the menus
[01:21] <ActionParsnip> the-erm: why do you ask?
[01:22] <cbrinker> I just want to install all supported locales without having to calculate them on each server.
[01:22] <mazda01> it was a 100gb hdd, he told ubuntu installer to install ubuntu along side windows automagically, and this is what he got. hard to trying to convert people when this happens.
[01:22] <ActionParsnip> cbrinker: could use localepurge and select all locales
[01:22] <cbrinker> I have assembled my own package but it is colliding with the locales package as they overlap and dpkg does not like that
[01:22] <snow_usa> hi
[01:22] <ThePCKid> @ZykoticK9: I didn't say anything about adding items to menus
[01:22] <snow_usa> is there any real time editor support multiple users in ubuntu?
[01:23] <jrib> snow_usa: gobby?
[01:23] <mazda01> ZykoticK9, has gparted been known to mess up ntfs resizing and ext4 creation in any bugs?
[01:23] <kalle_> is there a command to find the latest version of any package ? like mysql-client5.1 which change often
[01:23] <cbrinker> The strange thing is that it exists in debian as "locales-all" why did we not port that package?
[01:23] <hiexpo> -v
[01:23] <kalle_> i want my install script to not fail if the package version changes
[01:23] <maco> mazda01: the installer uses partman, not gparted
[01:23] <snow_usa> jrib, gobby ?
[01:23] <Azjo> hi i have nvidia gfx. if i set it to 1600x1200 with xrandr, ill have to pan. how do i fix it to show 1600x1200 properly?
[01:23] <mazda01> maco, thanks for the clarification and not an answer to my question
[01:23] <jrib> !info gobby | snow_usa
[01:24] <Jarlaxle> Network Manager is no longer allowing me to click "Enable wireless". Does anyone know how I can resolve this?
[01:24] <hiexpo> kalle_,  package -v
[01:24] <the-erm> Just curious.  Because I know php, python, javascript, modula-2, turbo pascal, bash and a bunch more.  Surely it's not that taxing isn't a really good answer.  The question was anyone know off the top of their head a similar program to uptime that gave you the date/time the machine was started.
[01:24] <ActionParsnip> kalle_: use an apt-cache search first and use the name found, put some logic in your script :)
[01:24] <maco> mazda01: well you're asking whether there's a bug in gparted, but thatd be irrelevant if he used the thing in the installer, so what are you asking about?
[01:24] <kalle_> hm i try that , thanx hiexpo and actionparsnip
[01:24] <mazda01> anyway, thanks guys for trying to help. he's in a bad place in trying to convert him and i'll have to do the best I can to try to help over the phone. i just don't want to accidentally wipe out his windows partition.
[01:24] <undecim> nvm, this can't be the issue... mapprefix shows that it already ignores /home/...
[01:24] <maco> mazda01: the last time i know of that the installer couldnt resize ntfs properly was 2006
[01:24] <snow_usa> jrib, is it lightweight ?
[01:25] <jrib> snow_usa: I have no clue
[01:25] <mazda01> maco, i was asking if the installer has any bugs about messing up ntfs resize and ext4 creation?
[01:25] <mazda01> k, thanks to all. gotta go
[01:25] <WinstonSmith> JuJuBee, does sudo /etc/init.d/portmap restart work?
[01:25] <cbrinker> ActionParsnip, I have been able to install all Locales by copying the SUPPORTED file into locales.d. The problem is that I have 100 servers to run this on and the process takes 5+ minutes to complete.
[01:25] <ActionParsnip> the-erm: you could write a bash script for it with some grep / awking but i'm at work so dont have time to hack out code, especially when you can simply run uptime and mentally calculate it
[01:26] <andrew_708476> Is there any IT people in here
[01:26] <cbrinker> Was hoping to have a precompiled package that just cp-ies the data into the right spot
[01:26] <andrew_708476> cood with computers
[01:26] <jrib> andrew_708476: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[01:26] <ActionParsnip> cbrinker: script it, you can copy the file to each server using sshfs
[01:26] <JuJuBee> WinstonSmith: yes
[01:27] <n0a1ias> anyone know how to set xchat to auto login to nickserv
[01:27] <Bardology> after updating resolv.conf, do I need to restart anything?
[01:27] <cbrinker> ActionParsnip essentially that is what I was attempting to do with my package, but 2 packages can't install the same file :(
[01:27] <the-erm> for the record it was: cat /proc/stat | grep btime | awk '{print $2}'
[01:27] <iluminator101> i am trying to follow this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1364786 i cant find pdf2mp3.py ??? please help
[01:27] <Agu10> hello
[01:28] <Agu10> I can navigate the internet very fast with my iphone. How can I achieve the same with a pentium 3 computer? with chrome on ubuntu
[01:28] <C_Okie> I found the time and am ready to install Ubuntu and I have windows already installed. But, is there more options with mounting partitions and tricks you can do then what's stated on the help wiki: https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/switching/installing-partitioning.html? Beyond /root /home and the swap partition, is there more 'tricks' or impllementations you can do then simply having a root a home and a swap partition?
[01:28] <Agu10> can I make other tabs be not loaded, like on iphone? what else can I do?
[01:29] <C_Okie> Mounting tricks that are usefull and something to consider that is?
[01:29] <WinstonSmith> JuJuBee, i am at the end of my knowledge and google-fu ... :( sry may ask in #ubuntu-server?
[01:29] <JuJuBee> WinstonSmith: thanks for trying
[01:29] <WinstonSmith> np sry i couldnt help :|
[01:30] <Agu10> anybody?
[01:30] <n0a1ias> how do i use empathy to connect to irc?
[01:30] <ActionParsnip> C_Okie: thats pretty much all I can recommend, seperate /home partitions are great
[01:30] <WinstonSmith> n0a1ias, edit>preferences>network ?
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> n0a1ias: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y00yMrMIMtc
[01:31] <jellow> I need some packaged from lucid but im on 9.10 can i add some sources from lucid ?
[01:31] <Agu10> is there any way?
[01:31] <ZykoticK9> n0a1ias, (my real answer is don't, use a real IRC client) BUT there seems to be a bug with Empathy where you need to add another type of account BEFORE you can add IRC - good luck.
[01:31] <n0a1ias> WinstonSmith, theres no network in prefs
[01:31] <jrib> jellow: no, not supported
[01:31] <bazhang> jellow, very bad idea
[01:31] <douglas_carmicha> join #eurix
[01:32] <C_Okie> ActionParsnip:  oh someone told be to do some researching up on mounting w/ ubuntu... I figured they meant really "researching" and not just what the wiki help says
[01:32] <WinstonSmith> n0a1ias, yes there is at least in xchat-gnome
[01:32] <jellow> jrib: bazhang  what if i added it installed the few deb i need then commented it out?
[01:32] <n0a1ias> well the reason i want empathy is so i dont have to type in /msg nickserv identify <password> every time i log in
[01:32] <ActionParsnip> Agu10: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-251509.html  use those seetings in /etc/sysctl.conf     you can also install dnsmasq to use a local DNS and make the web faster, you will need to edit /etc/dnsmasq.conf to tell it to listen to 127.0.0.1 and then add 127.0.0.1 in your list of DNS servers
[01:32] <jrib> jellow: no.  Tell us what you actually want to accomplish
[01:33] <bazhang> n0a1ias, easy to accomplish with xchat
[01:33] <ZykoticK9> n0a1ias, xchat automatically does that for me
[01:33] <n0a1ias> bazhang, how? im in it now
[01:33] <WinstonSmith> n0a1ias, install xchat-gnome then u have networks in prefs goto freenode there u can define the nickserv passwd
[01:34] <n0a1ias> WinstonSmith, thanks a ton!
[01:34] <WinstonSmith> np
[01:34] <bazhang> n0a1ias, under xchat menu item, show network list ubuntu servers edit, put username:password in server password field
[01:34] <mae_tae> hello people, how do i fix forbidden 403 error + apache
[01:34] <jellow> i want to install spirit but i need libimobiledevice-dev which is only in the repo of lucid and i'm on 9.10 , What can i do?
[01:35] <bazhang> n0a1ias, you can also configure your auto join channels there: separate #channel1,#channel too with a comma
[01:36] <n0a1ias> bazhang, so i put n0a1ias : <pass> in server pass?
[01:36] <shubh> Hi!
[01:36] <Andorin> So it appears that sometimes, when I boot my Lucid box, USB devices will not automount when plugged in... and other partitions on my HDD don't appear in the Places menu. Any reason for this?
[01:36] <Italian_Plumber> I just got a message from remote desktop viewer that someone was trying to view my desktop.  It was from an unknown IP.  I have it set so that I must confirm each remote request -- I denied it.  I didn't catch the IP.  Is there a log file somewhere where that might be recorded?
[01:36] <bazhang> n0a1ias, username:password  in server password field
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> jellow: youcould find a PPA for the deb for karmic
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | jellow
[01:37] <ActionParsnip> Italian_Plumber: possibly in /var/log  I hope you arent using VNC over WAN without an SSH tunnel
[01:37] <shubh> I have a problem....
[01:37] <n0a1ias> ok I did it, thanks guys
[01:37] <hiexpo> sup ActionParsnip
[01:37] <n0a1ias> shubh, shoot
[01:38] <shubh> When I try booting off the Ubuntu Live CD, it says "Error: Reebot now?"
[01:38] <huzubu> hey, how do I kill pulseaudio without it restarting? I've disabled it under system-->preferences-->startup applications, but it still runs on startup and restarts when I kill it.
[01:38] <huzubu> alternatively, how can I remove it without removing ubuntu-desktop?
[01:39] <n0a1ias> shubh, did you do an md5 check?
[01:39] <mae_tae> Actionparsnip, are you there?
[01:39] <ShinyDarkness> Hi, all. Is there any way to configure compiz to have a different desktop background in each virtual desktop.
[01:39] <ActionParsnip> mae_tae: sup?
[01:39] <cablop> hi, huys... i need to put a folder to behave like a menu as a luncher in the bars, any idea?
[01:40] <ZykoticK9> ShinyDarkness, Yes - but see the note/warning at top!  http://sites.google.com/site/alucidfs/how-i-do/multiple-compiz-backgrounds
[01:40] <mae_tae> ActionParsnip, how do i resolve forbidden 403 in apache2 (ub
[01:40] <ShinyDarkness> ZykoticK9, ty!
[01:40] <ActionParsnip> cablop: if you right click a folder in the application menus, you can add it to the gnomebar and it will allow quicj access to that folder, if thats what you mean...
[01:40] <mae_tae> Actionparsnip, *ubuntu
[01:40] <cablop> mae_tae: check permissions
[01:40] <Italian_Plumber> I was using VNC over WAN withouit SSH... but I just disabled it.  I have no need to access the machine remotely from outside my network...
[01:40] <ActionParsnip> mae_tae: I dont know, otherwise I would have answered earlier wouldnt I?
[01:40] <mae_tae> i've already give chmod 776
[01:41] <cablop> ActionParsnip: what i want is to click the icon and a menu appears and i navigate it as any other menu, i just want to place some sutom links inside to fit my needs
[01:41] <ActionParsnip> Italian_Plumber: good, because VNC is not encrypted so is not secure
[01:41] <quentin> since HAL replaced Xconf, there is no way to configure XKBVARIANT to get dead keys activated, anymore. How to do now?
[01:41] <shubh> How do you do an MD5 check? I am new to Ubuntu....
[01:41] <mae_tae> cablop, what else?
[01:41] <n0a1ias> are you on the live cd now?
[01:42] <Italian_Plumber> ActionParsnip: Thanks... acutally the machine in question is usually offf.
[01:42] <cablop> check folder permissions, they must havwe execute permission too
[01:42] <n0a1ias> !md5 | shubh
[01:42] <shubh> No I am on my other computer...
[01:42] <huzubu> does anyone know how to stop pulseaudio from automatically restarting when it is killed? or to remove it without removing ubuntu-desktop?
[01:42] <dwon> anyone familiar with running lucid on xen?  I'm having trouble booting it; it seems to hang when the initrd runs /sbin/init  (dom0 is Debian lenny)
[01:42] <mae_tae> cablop, including others?
[01:42] <shubh> Do I have to to do this check on the CD?
[01:42] <FredFlintstone> "choose a plugin for shockwave flash", what should i choose?
[01:42] <ActionParsnip> cablop: make a folder with the launchers you require, you may be able to add that to the panel. If push comes to shove you can make a new folder in the applications menu then add that
[01:43] <cablop> mae_tae: yes, afaik
[01:43] <huzubu> is anyone here familiar with pulseaudio at all?
[01:43] <ActionParsnip> FredFlintstone: the adobe one
[01:43] <mae_tae> cablop, k
[01:43] <n0a1ias> shubh, the link is in the ubottu message, also try cleaning the disk itself, when theres an error with a love cd, its normally just dirty
[01:43] <Azjo> hi i have nvidia gfx. if i set it to 1600x1200 with xrandr, ill have to pan. how do i fix it to show 1600x1200 properly?
[01:43] <n1ckey> can somone help me with MySQL?
[01:43] <FredFlintstone> ActionParsnip, thanks
[01:43] <cablop> mae_tae, also owner must be www-data if you're using the apache from repos, if not you must use root owner, afaik, i never used an apache not-from repos in ubuntu
[01:43] <the-erm> n1ckey: #mysql might be a better room
[01:43] <n1ckey> okay
[01:44] <brandoney> Hello...  What is the best procedure for installing and running Lucid on a usb stick and make it bootable?
[01:44] <cablop> thanks ActionParsnip
[01:44] <mae_tae> cablop, ok
[01:44] <WinstonSmith> !usb
[01:44] <n0a1ias> brandoney, use unebootto
[01:44] <the-erm> you can add yourself to the www-data group, then make /var/www/ writeable to the group www-data
[01:44] <Italian_Plumber> how do I uncompress the syslog.1.gz files
[01:44] <Italian_Plumber> ?
[01:44] <n0a1ias> unbootto**
[01:44] <shubh> How to check a Ubuntu Live CD's MD5 via win 7???
[01:44] <n0a1ias> wait, how is it spelled?
[01:45] <maco> the-erm, who aer you talking to?
[01:45] <dwon> Italian_Plumber: you could view it with zless
[01:45] <Agu10> anybody?
[01:45] <the-erm> whoever wanted to know.
[01:45] <n0a1ias> md5 | shubh
[01:45] <maco> the-erm: oh wait i see
[01:45] <ActionParsnip> Italian_Plumber: gunzip syslog.1.gz   is my guess
[01:45] <Agu10> can I do what iphone OS does? downloading only the active tab ? and unloading the others
[01:45] <maco> mae_tae: if you make /var/www be group-owned by www-data, also make it sgid so that all files in it are automatically sharing that group-ownership
[01:45] <shubh> How?
[01:45] <n0a1ias> click the link
[01:45] <Italian_Plumber> gunzip doesn't work.... zless seems to have frozen my machine
[01:46] <ActionParsnip> Agu10: not heard of that, chrome precaches the DNS resolves of the links in the page while you read to make it faster
[01:46] <Agu10> anyways, this is slooow
[01:46] <mae_tae> maco, im not familiar with that, whats the exact command?
[01:46] <shubh> How?
[01:46] <Agu10> I'm already using chrome, but iphone's safari is waay faster!
[01:46] <ActionParsnip> Agu10: well your chip is slow and the packets are coming in fast, so you are most likely disgarding a lot
[01:46] <Agu10> specially when scrolling
[01:46] <the-erm> Italian_Plumber: I think that less <filename> might do it automatically.
[01:46] <maco> mae_tae: you'd want:  chmod -R 4775 /var/www
[01:47] <shubh> Anybody???
[01:47] <maco> mae_tae: thatd make it setgid and give the group write permissions
[01:47] <Agu10> ActionParsnip: I'm talking more about the rendering...
[01:47] <ZykoticK9> !patience | shubh
[01:47] <Italian_Plumber> ok zless works... it froze because my connection to my vmware server was borked
[01:47] <ActionParsnip> Agu10: the browser is optomised for the iphone hardware, try running Ubuntu on an xbox, you need a pretty light OS due to its poor specs, but the games are tailored exactly to the hardware so can run well
[01:47] <jrib> maco: are you sure it's 4 for setgid?
[01:48] <LinuxGuy2009> How would I go about manually installing and activating (if it needs activated) the nvidia driver on an offline machine? Is this possible?
[01:48] <bluezone> I'm reading an impressive guide to Linux and ubuntu in general called: Linux in easy steps by mike mcgrath, just throwing this out there if your new to linux, it's a great place to start
[01:48] <maco> jrib: no... whoops. 4 is suid. except on directories, suid and sgid behave exactly the same on linux (but not  on....solaris i think it is)
[01:48] <maco> mae_tae: sorry, 2775
[01:48] <mae_tae> maco, thanks ill try it
[01:48] <Agu10> ActionParsnip: so there's no way to improve this to work like an iphone?
[01:48] <jrib> maco: ah wasn't aware that setuid = setgid on directories, good to know
[01:49] <ActionParsnip> LinuxGuy2009: you can grab the packages from http://packages.ubuntu.com   I recommend strongly you hook it up, get the driver then detatch it. Life will be a lot easier
[01:49] <jrib> maco: wait, you said the opposite right?
[01:49] <maco> jrib: on linux the creator and owner are *always* the same at creation time
[01:49] <johngeetar> Does anyone know how to display if an apache server is running or not in conky?
[01:49] <LinuxGuy2009> ActionParsnip: Recomend I hook it up? What?
[01:49] <ActionParsnip> Agu10: you could tweak settings and ditch gnome / compiz and use LXDE + openbox. Your desktop will impact less on the system and it will be more responsive
[01:50] <maco> jrib: so if you make a dir suid, and you create a file in it, you're still the owner since you're the creator, so itll act like sgid instead
[01:50] <the-erm> Agu10: I think if you install noscript, you may get better results in firefox.  The main reason being the iphone doesn't do flash, and that may be what's slowing down your experience.
[01:50] <ActionParsnip> LinuxGuy2009: get the system online, grab the driver. Then make it be offline again
[01:50] <Italian_Plumber> what is avahi-daemon?
[01:50] <jrib> maco: hmm
[01:50] <maco> jrib: some unixes do allow the creator to give up ownership, but linux isnt one of them (you need to sudo to chown)
[01:50] <n0a1ias> dsfffffffffdadsfffffffffffaassssssssssssssssssssssssssssf
[01:50] <n0a1ias> sorry, cat on keyboard
[01:50] <ActionParsnip> n0a1ias: please dont
[01:50] <ActionParsnip> hahhaha, nm :)
[01:50] <LinuxGuy2009> Yeah thats the same answer all the other people that dont know give. Nothing new.
[01:51] <shubh> :'(
[01:51] <Agu10> the-erm: I already disabled flash, so No.
[01:51] <brandoney> What is unbootto?
[01:51] <kalle_> never set a cat to admin servers...
[01:51] <maco> brandoney: ubottu is the friendly channel bot
[01:51] <ActionParsnip> LinuxGuy2009: you can get the debs online but you will have a tonne of back and forth, getting what is needed
[01:51] <n0a1ias> brandoney, i dont remember the name exactly
[01:51] <rww> brandoney: I suspect n0a1ias meant unetbootin
[01:51] <zeleftikam_> whoops. i believe i disabled my Personal File Sharing abilities by removing some package, but I don't know what it is. When I try to turn on file sharing in the preferences, it tells me a required package is missing. Any ideas on what I should reinstall to get her working again?
[01:51] <n0a1ias> rww, yes thats it!
[01:51] <kalle_> speaking of cat how to extract words from cat and decide if they are there or not ? to use in scripting
[01:52] <ActionParsnip> zeleftikam_: sudo apt-get install samba
[01:52] <thune3> shubh: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM#MD5SUM%20on%20Windows maybe
[01:52] <brandoney> ahhhhh.
[01:52] <n1ckey> appearntly i am banned from #mysql :\
[01:52] <LinuxGuy2009> ActionParsnip: I have this machine online so thats not an issue at all. But how would I activate the driver after I install with dpkg -i?
[01:52] <the-erm> n1ckey: what was the question?
[01:52] <ZykoticK9> kalle_, grep
[01:52] <ActionParsnip> kalle_: you can grep the output of cat using pipes to filter for certain things
[01:52] <n1ckey> can anybody read and help me?
[01:52] <n1ckey> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1561875
[01:52] <kalle_> so grep if word then ? something like that ?
[01:53] <LinuxGuy2009> ActionParsnip: Will it show up in hardware drivers window after I install the package you think?
[01:53] <rww> n1ckey: to be specific, *!~root@* is banned from #mysql. If you changed your ident, you'd be able to get in there.
[01:53] <ActionParsnip> LinuxGuy2009: start with nvidia-current  you will need to then get its deps, then its deps deps if they are needed. It could get messy
[01:53] <ZykoticK9> kalle_, "cat /foofile | grep searchterm"
[01:53] <ActionParsnip> LinuxGuy2009: once you get all the packages in, you will have done the job of the hardware app, it wont be needed
[01:54] <n1ckey> no its n1ckey
[01:54] <n1ckey> wierd
[01:54] <venzil> igot some sound problems here .when i plug in my earphones on my laptop the sound is still heard on the speakers aswell as in the earphones any ideas? PM ME :)
[01:54] <ZykoticK9> kalle_, not sure how to tie it into if/then statements - perhaps you'd want to ask in #bash
[01:54] <the-erm> n1ckey:  sudo cat /etc/mysql/debian.cnf (get the password)
[01:54] <LinuxGuy2009> ActionParsnip: Ok Ill give it another go and see.
[01:54] <the-erm> mysql -u debian-sys-maint -ppasswordFromFile
[01:54] <n1ckey> anyone, anyone can help?? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1561875
[01:54] <the-erm> that should get you in if it's on.
[01:55] <ActionParsnip> LinuxGuy2009: i'd hook it up, even on a wired connection. it'll be wayy faster and wayyyy easier
[01:55] <WinstonSmith> !patience
[01:55] <rww> n1ckey: your nickname is n1ckey. Your ident is ~root, presumably because you're running your IRC client as root (which is not a good idea) or set it to give that ident.
[01:55] <brandoney> will UNetbootin let me install and run a full persistent version from USB or just the LiveCD to install from?
[01:55] <kalle_> good that should be about half the scripted line
[01:55] <LinuxGuy2009> ActionParsnip: Yeah but that wouldnt solve my question.
[01:55] <jrib> maco: setuid just seems to be ignored on directories
[01:55] <kalle_> now to make it decide if the words are there already and only add them if not
[01:55] <ceelog> Hello
[01:56] <ZykoticK9> kalle_, for scripting help i'd highly recommend #bash - they are hard core scripters there ;)
[01:56] <WinstonSmith> xchat just crashed on me :(
[01:56] <kalle_> great ill ask there ;=)
[01:56] <dwon> I'm attempting to get lucid running on a Xen domU, the initrd runs and mounts the root filesystem okay, but it seems to hang when it tries to run /sbin/init.  I tried booting with break=init, and I get a prompt, but running /root/bin/sh hangs.
[01:57] <the-erm> dwon: how about /bin/sh ?
[01:58] <maco> jrib: ah you're right
[01:58] <maco> jrib: and its apparently freebsd that makes setuid do what it sounds like
[01:58] <dwon> the-erm: /bin/sh (the initrd's busybox) works fine.  some commands like "/root/bin/echo foo" work, too
[01:59] <the-erm> I have no clue.
[01:59] <C_Okie> I have windwos xp on my computer, if I install ubuntu can I resize the partition mounted for the xp os using a program on ubuntu?
[01:59] <snadge> if your wireless router is set to mixed g/n .. and g devices connect to it.. does that mean, that no N devices can connect?
[02:00] <snadge> because i have an acer aod260, which supposedly supports wifi n.. but its only connecting to our n router, in g mode.. that blows chunks
[02:00] <WinstonSmith> C_Okie, yes during the install u can resize
[02:00] <ActionParsnip> C_Okie: yes, its part of the install. You can resize the ntfs. Make sure your backups are up to date in case of catastrophe
[02:01] <ActionParsnip> snadge: possibly get newer drivers online. Do you only access the internet with the device? Do you access network shares with the laptop?
[02:01] <wolfbiker> hey guys, how can I get my webcam to work on ubuntu?
[02:01] <ZykoticK9> wolfbiker, does it work in cheese?
[02:01] <the-erm> C_Okie: I'd recommend only resizing from a live cd.  You can do it as root if your windows drive isn't mounted, but you can't resize the linux partition if it's being used.
[02:01] <snadge> ActionParsnip: its 10.04 (lucid) .. thats not necessarily the latest or best driver for my built in wifi?
[02:01] <ActionParsnip> snadge: possibly not
[02:02] <snadge> *shakes fist at heavens*
[02:02] <kthomas_vh> kthomas_vh, :
[02:02] <kthomas_vh> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem
[02:02] <ActionParsnip> snadge: do you only access your router to get the internet or d you access nework shares on your LAN?
[02:02] <snadge> its just internet access.. i do occasionally copy a file over the lan.. its more, it should work and doesn't.. its not a show stopper or anything.. i paid for n, i want n dammit. but g will do :)
[02:02] <C_Okie> I want to use a program while running ubuntu to resize the windows partition
[02:02] <wolfbiker> ZykoticK9, what do you mean by cheese? I'm an ignorante bastard, sorry for that
[02:03] <ActionParsnip> snadge: unless your internet connection is faster than 54Mbps, youwill notice VERY little difference in web speed
[02:03] <ZykoticK9> wolfbiker, Cheese is a program you should install from Ubuntu Software Center / Synaptic / or "sudo apt-get install cheese" and see if you webcam works in it.
[02:03] <the-erm> C_Okie: you can use the live CD while resizing, however ... I'm not sure I recommend that either :)  Sure it'll work but I get scared of the idea of some other program jacking things up.
[02:04] <timh____> My volume control disappeared from my upper panel.  Looking at the list of panel applets, I can't find the one to add it back.
[02:04] <wolfbiker> ZykoticK9, haven't tried that indeed.
[02:04] <the-erm> C_Okie: You should be able to surf the web in firefox while resizing but I just don't recommend it :)
[02:04] <the-erm> I'm paranoid.
[02:04] <C_Okie> hehe
[02:05] <C_Okie> Well, f- windows
[02:05] <the-erm> Cheese does a pretty good job if you ask me.  It's worked out of the box on all my webcams.
[02:05] <the-erm> Which is more than I can say for pulse audio ....
[02:05] <the-erm> At least for recording.
[02:05] <C_Okie> there stupid xp os  doesnt have a resize capability in disk management ;(
[02:05] <cablop> ActionParsnip: hard to get that menu in a simple way :(
[02:06] <ActionParsnip> cablop: i believe you can add items to the gnome panel like file drawers etc, if you make a folder in $HOME someplace then reference it in the applet it may be able to be used
[02:06] <dougsko> has anyone ever seen a mounted drive like this? http://i.imgur.com/hsG5V.jpg
[02:06] <C_Okie> I am just scared my sizes are gonna be off and I am gonna run out of room some where with swap root and home for ubuntu and data and os for windwos
[02:06] <Aemaeth> everything i look up online is how to get the xbawx 360 controller to NOT work as a mouse, I on the other hand want it to be my mouse, and can't get it into this mode, does anyone have experience in this area?
[02:06] <cablop> ActionParsnip: what is a file drawer?
[02:07] <C_Okie> I have 100g for windows and only 40 for ubuntu totoal
[02:07] <zeleftikam_> dougsko: hmm it's russian
[02:07] <C_Okie> *total
[02:07] <zeleftikam_> dougsko: what's in it?
[02:07] <ActionParsnip> cablop: like a folder applet on the bar which displays the contents of a chosen folder. I made up the term "file drawer" dut you get the idea
[02:07] <dougsko> zeleftikam_: yeah, but it came out of no where. i did not create it and when i try and explore it in gnome, it says its an invalid mount
[02:07] <zeleftikam_> hmm
[02:07] <zeleftikam_> hax?
[02:07] <zzzed> C_Okie, 40G for ubuntu is enuf
[02:07] <dougsko> zeleftikam_: also, the mount command does not show it
[02:08] <dougsko> maybe
[02:08] <cablop> ActionParsnip: yup i found it! but i can't change the folder it is tied to
[02:08] <ActionParsnip> cablop: you can use this sort of thing, but make your own folder in the menu using alacarte: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/08/add-neat-little-wine-app-menu-to-your.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+d0od+(Omg!+Ubuntu!)&utm_content=FaceBook
[02:09] <n0a1ias> how do i get an alias of rm to be rm -i ?
[02:09] <dwon> the-erm: ok, thanks anyway.  It looks like /root/usr/bin/strace works, so I might be able to figure something out
[02:09] <ActionParsnip> cablop: right click the folder ting you made and click properties / preferences
[02:09] <the-erm> n0a1ias: alias rm='rm -i'
[02:09] <the-erm> I think
[02:09] <cablop> ActionParsnip: yes, it just have icon sizes and no more :( sadly... about alacarte i can't create th menu at the same level of top menus... this is frustrating :(
[02:10] <n0a1ias> the-erm, i just wana make shure i dont screw my system over
[02:10] <the-erm> ya that does.
[02:10] <ActionParsnip> cablop: then create it in a submenu, you can still add those, just like in the example
[02:10] <n0a1ias> the-erm, oh, thanks
[02:10] <wolfbiker> ZykoticK9, alright seems like cheese was exactly what i needed, thanks man!
[02:11] <cablop> ActionParsnip: well, i want to minimize clicks... just to avoid some pain tin the writs and arms... usability issue
[02:11] <SteelWing> This is odd. I plugged in a USB Flash drive and Ubuntu (10.04) just froze on me. Upon rebooting trash is gone I now have cd drive 0 permanently stuck in my places tab and computer,trash and most other things done with Nautilus are coming up as unsupported actions. Would anyone have any idea as to why this is happening?
[02:11] <Azjo> hi i have nvidia gfx. if i set it to 1600x1200 with xrandr, ill have to pan. how do i fix it to show 1600x1200 properly?
[02:11] <brandoney> UNetboot seems to fix every USB boot problem known to man, I wonder why it didn't come up once in all my searches.
[02:12] <ActionParsnip> Azjo: use nvidia-settings, it will setup the display just fine
[02:12] <the-erm> SteelWing: Were you using a live usb drive at the time :)
[02:12] <Azjo> ActionParsnip: then i can only choose maximum 1360x768, and it stretches that too much for my crt monitor.
[02:12] <cablop> ActionParsnip: nope, no way to drag and drop the menus from main menu
[02:12] <brandoney> Thanks yall
[02:13] <the-erm> Azjo: you may have to run that as root for the settings to stick ... I'm not sure why.
[02:13] <joobie> guys im tring to setup a dir so that if i create a directory within it (using mkdir), it inherits the uid of the parent directory.. i've tried setting the g+s bit on the parent dir, which makes the directory inherit the group, but it doesnt inherit the uid.. how can this be done? i tried also u+s which didnt work.......
[02:13] <Jordan_U> SteelWing: Nautilus might have been writing to its configuration file when you (I assume) hard reset, and now it's corrupt.
[02:13] <the-erm> Jordan_U: that sounds like a plausible theory
[02:14] <jrib> hint about getting questions answered: do not ask question and leave 2 seconds later
[02:14] <Azjo> the-erm: but i dont want to pan. it is still virtually at 1024x768
[02:14] <SteelWing> the-erm: No I was just plugging it in to grab a picture from this laptop and bring it to my desktop
[02:14] <ActionParsnip> Azjo: ok then run: sudo nvidia-xconfig; gksudo nvidia-settings     set the res to 1024x768  and click "save to x config file"  you can now run: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf    scroll to the screen section and edit the resolution line to be the desired resolution. Reboot to test.
[02:15] <SteelWing> Jordan_U Okay, how would I write a new one?
[02:15] <the-erm> Azjo: grandr is a pretty decent graphical program for setting the resolution.  There's another one that is a display applet as well.
[02:15] <Dr_Willis> !randr
[02:15] <Dr_Willis> !xrandr
[02:16] <Dr_Willis> Ive not seen the 'paning the display' work in X in quite some time. I never was able to get it working on my netbook.
[02:16] <Divecks> hey, I've got a laptop running Ubuntu with some really bad speakers, but I have a desktop with Ubuntu that has really nice speakers. Is there any way I could "send" all my laptops audio through my desktop? Thanks!
[02:16] <SteelWing> Actually nevermind I'll just try purging nautilus and reinstalling via package manager.
[02:16] <cablop> ok, a dock could be another approach
[02:16] <cablop> any good dock for ubuntu?
[02:16] <Divecks> cablop, docky. it's the best, really.
[02:16] <Jordan_U> SteelWing: That wouldn't help as it would be a config file in your home directory, which purging doesn't touch.
[02:17] <jrib> joobie: use ACLs
[02:17] <Dr_Willis> Divecks:  pulse audio has some features to let you do that.
[02:17] <Divecks> cablop, Others are more extensible and flexible, but docky is (imo) the most polished and functional.
[02:17] <SteelWing> Jordan_U: Ack, Okay delete the config and prompt it for a new one then.
[02:17] <ActionParsnip> cablop: avant-window-navigator, simdock, docky
[02:17] <the-erm> SteelWing: the problem would like in a ~/.config file.
[02:17] <Dr_Willis> Divecks:  install paprefs and pavucontrol, set auth off in paprefs, then
[02:17] <hiexpo> that will work
[02:17] <Dr_Willis> Divecks: then use the pulse gnome applet to set default pulse server to the server ip
[02:18] <jellow> how can i forse apt-get to remove a package and ignore unmet errors
[02:18] <Divecks> Dr_Willis, Wow that would be awesome. I'll give it a shot!
[02:18] <wombatguy> Divecks: why do you say that? I've heard it's the most featured but what exactly am I missing with cairodock?
[02:19] <Dr_Willis> wombatguy:  try them all. use what you like,
[02:19] <Jordan_U> SteelWing: Try running "mv ~/.gconf/apps/nautilus/ ~/.gconf/apps/nautilus_corrupt"
[02:19] <cablop> what about cairo-dock?
[02:19] <bunbunderson> i need help with the very last part of getting my wireless card to connect. running through ndiswrapper, recognizes my SSID, prompts for password, but wont connect right
[02:19] <hiexpo> howdy Dr_Willis
[02:19] <Dr_Willis> often 'features' = just more cluttered eye candy.
[02:19] <Dr_Willis> hiexpo:  Moo!
[02:19] <wombatguy> cairodock is good
[02:19] <Divecks> wombatguy, I, personally, find docky the most beautiful and I really like the way it integrates with Gnome, and the weather/sound/batrery applets. Personal preference, though. I also think that Cairodock has a bit *too* much eyecandy for me :D
[02:19] <hiexpo> ^ no sudo apt-get moo Dr_Willis
[02:20] <hiexpo> heehee
[02:20] <wombatguy> i guess i can see that
[02:20] <wombatguy> but many people say it's the most fully featured (docky)
[02:20] <SteelWing> Jordan_U: Done. I take it I reboot and watch nautlius reconfigure?
[02:20] <the-erm> ActionParsnip: I would like to make a formal apology for being a dooshbag earlier.
[02:21] <Jordan_U> SteelWing: Log out and back in again.
[02:21] <Azjo> ActionParsnip: there is no resolution line?
[02:21] <SteelWing> Jordan_U: be right back.
[02:21] <ActionParsnip> the-erm: no probs mate, we all have days :)
[02:21] <wombatguy> and i have used it briefly but didn't find any additional features that aren't part of other docks which are a bit more eyecandy
[02:22] <hiexpo> docky  < yuk
[02:22] <wombatguy> i do like a bit of eyecandy myself but not if it gets in the way of functionality and have found that it doesn't
[02:22] <SuperSam> I'm having problems getting "fn keys" working on my laptop , they are not registered as a keypress when I test them with xev. any ideas?
[02:22] <bunbunderson> i need help with the very last part of getting my netgear wireless card to connect. running through ndiswrapper, recognizes my SSID, prompts for password, but wont connect right...please!
[02:22] <Azjo> ActionParsnip: take a look here: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ZztiAAUB
[02:22] <SteelWing> Back, no dice. Still no trash etc.
[02:23] <hiexpo> rarcrack  2 days now yikes i might lose
[02:23] <bluezone>  /join #apache2
[02:24] <bluezone> -.-
[02:24] <bluezone> sorry
[02:24] <FloodBot3> bluezone: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:25] <Jordan_U> SteelWing: Can you log into the guest account and see if it has the same problem?
[02:25] <bunbunderson> anybody?
[02:25] <SteelWing> Jordan_U: Sure just a sec
[02:25] <bunbunderson> thanks!
[02:26] <Dr_Willis> bunbunderson:  ndiswrappers can be tricky. you could test by temparly disabling the encryption for the wireless connection on the router  and see if it can connect then. Thats about the only trouble shooting advice i can give.
[02:27] <SteelWing> Jordan_U: Back same problem even on guest
[02:27] <bunbunderson> okay. thanks. my card is supposedly compatible with ndis..
[02:28] <Dr_Willis> bunbunderson:  i always considered ndiswrappers a bit of a dirty hack.   I dont even see it used much these days. Not near as much as it was used a few years back.
[02:28] <wombatguy> i upgraded my kernel so i could stop using ndiswrapper
[02:28] <hiexpo> ndis is junk
[02:29] <bunbunderson> do you have any other suggestions to be able to use this card??
[02:29] <wombatguy> never had that many issues as long as i set everything perfectly
[02:29] <Smoodo> How's the stability of 10.10?
[02:29] <bunbunderson> i am super new to this whole world
[02:29] <wombatguy> bunbunderson: did you try what he said already? It's worth trying
[02:29] <hiexpo> what card
[02:29] <bunbunderson> Netgear WG511
[02:29] <ActionParsnip> !maverick | Smoodo
[02:29] <wombatguy> bunbunderson: How new are you to setting up simple home wireless networks
[02:30] <Jordan_U> SteelWing: Then it's not an issue with files in your home directory, and a purge and re-install might fix it.
[02:30] <hiexpo> is that a router
[02:30] <hiexpo> oh my bad tired
[02:30] <SteelWing> Jordan_U: I'll try that now and get back to you then
[02:30] <ActionParsnip> bunbunderson: if you run:   sudo lshw -C network   you can see the product line for the device which will identify the chip which you need to know, the make and model are moot
[02:31] <elitexray> the best thing about ubuntu is openoffice ;D
[02:31] <bunbunderson> I am working on it. My 16 month old makes it very difficult
[02:31] <adv_> i have 2 webcams on my laptop, how can i disable the 1st one so that i can use the 2nd one?
[02:31] <bunbunderson> not new to setting up simple home wireless networks
[02:32] <bunbunderson> just linux and ubuntu
[02:32] <Te3-BloodyIron> is anyone around that can help me with a bluetooth issue?
[02:32] <ActionParsnip> !ask | Te3-BloodyIron
[02:32] <Te3-BloodyIron> ActionParsnip: I asked it hours ago and nobody helped, so instead i'm trying to find someone to help me.
[02:33] <Te3-BloodyIron> i installed a patched version of the bluetooth daemon and didn't realize the fix was already in my version. as such i have pooched my bluetooth and the daemon won't start. i can't figure out how to fix this
[02:33] <Te3-BloodyIron> what should i do?
[02:34] <ilovefairuz> Te3-BloodyIron: how did you install it?
[02:34] <Te3-BloodyIron> mind if i whisper you the howto i was following?
[02:34] <ActionParsnip> Te3-BloodyIron: then ask now, hours ago there were different users on, somebody may know
[02:34] <ilovefairuz> Te3-BloodyIron: paste the link here
[02:34] <Te3-BloodyIron> http://wiki.xbmc.org/?title=HOW-TO_Setup_PS3_BD_Remote
[02:34] <Te3-BloodyIron> i followed the second method at the beginning
[02:35] <Te3-BloodyIron> i got the patched version from the ppa source
[02:35] <Te3-BloodyIron> since hten it has failed to start and i have tried to reinstall bluetooth so many times in different ways
[02:35] <Te3-BloodyIron> :/
[02:35] <elitexray> But isn't there just one way of installing a software?
[02:35] <hiexpo> bunbunderson,  type in terminal lspci -nn
[02:35] <wombatguy> no
[02:36] <Dr_Willis> Te3-BloodyIron:  You purged what you installed via ppa with the 'ppa-purge' utility ?
[02:36] <Te3-BloodyIron> kind of, I tried just removing the package, but also did the remove completely, inlcuding configurations
[02:36] <hiexpo> whats the output
[02:36] <Te3-BloodyIron> i did not do ppa-purge, i manually removed the source from sources and removed the key
[02:36] <Te3-BloodyIron> and at one step i did an apt-get purge bluetooth
[02:36] <Te3-BloodyIron> er might have been bluez
[02:36] <Te3-BloodyIron> what does that do Dr_Willis?
[02:36] <Te3-BloodyIron> the ppa-purge
[02:37] <SteelWing> Jordan_U: I'm back, purged nautilus reinstalled nautilus and packages removed via purge and still no dice.
[02:37] <ilovefairuz> Te3-BloodyIron: remove the ppa entry from /etc/apt/sources.list and then: sudo apt-get update &&  sudo  apt-get install --reinstall bluez
[02:37] <Dr_Willis> Te3-BloodyIron:  totally cleans out things you used from a specific ppa.
[02:37] <Dr_Willis> ppa-purge will reset all packages from a PPA to the standard versions released for your distribution
[02:37] <Te3-BloodyIron> ilovefairuz: the ppa entry i added earlier is not in there now
[02:38] <Te3-BloodyIron> Dr_Willis: is that just a simple command or should I use flags too?
[02:38] <Dr_Willis> http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html
[02:38] <alazyworkaholic> Can't get onto #android, so 1 quick question. Is a cellphone that comes with old android (e.g. v 1.5) usually upgradable to the most recent (v 2.2) or are you stuck with factory firmware?
[02:38] <Te3-BloodyIron> thx Dr_Willis:
[02:38] <bazhang> !ot | alazyworkaholic
[02:39] <Jordan_U> SteelWing: Does "nautilus --check" give any output other than "running nautilus_self_test_*"? If so, please pastebin the output.
[02:39] <Dr_Willis> alazyworkaholic:  most likely its 'registered nicks' required
[02:39] <Dr_Willis> alazyworkaholic:  i woudl say it totally depends on the phone. Its very likely you are stuck.
[02:39] <SteelWing> Nope.
[02:39] <Te3-BloodyIron> alazyworkaholic: that depends on who makes the phone, they work with google to make sure it works "right". some phone manufacturers do upgrade it some dont
[02:39] <SteelWing> Jordan_U: Just checked itself.
[02:39] <max_> how to remaster Ubuntu
[02:39] <SteelWing> Jordan_U: it just did checking no errors.
[02:39] <alazyworkaholic> phone specific? ok, thanks. :)
[02:39] <Dr_Willis> max_:  depends on what changes you want to do.
[02:40] <Dr_Willis> !remaster | max_
[02:40] <Andorin> So it appears that sometimes, when I boot my Lucid box, USB devices will not automount when plugged in... and other partitions on my HDD don't appear in the Places menu. Any reason for this?
[02:40] <ilovefairuz> !register < alazyworkaholic, #android works fine
[02:40] <Dr_Willis> max_:  theres also the 'reconstructor' web site that can do some tweaks
[02:40] <ilovefairuz> !register > alazyworkaholic
[02:40] <Jordan_U> SteelWing: What is the exact error nautilus gives about "unsupported actions"?
[02:40] <Dr_Willis> max_:  https://build.reconstructor.org/#
[02:40] <SteelWing> Could not display "computer:". Nautilus cannot handle "computer" locations.
[02:41] <Te3-BloodyIron> uhh Dr_Willis: i don't have ppa-purge, is it part of a utils pack?
[02:41] <max_> Does the site provide complete detail how to remaster
[02:41] <SteelWing> Jordan_U: Could not display "computer:". Nautilus cannot handle "computer" locations.
[02:42] <Dr_Willis> Te3-BloodyIron:  the urls i gave - explain that its  avail via deb/ppa.
[02:42] <Te3-BloodyIron> oh it's a script, my bad
[02:42] <Te3-BloodyIron> er package
[02:42] <Te3-BloodyIron> bah!
[02:42] <Dr_Willis> I do belive ppa-purge is going to be in 10.10
[02:42] <Dr_Willis> Te3-BloodyIron:  also ubuntu-tweak i belive has support for ppa-purge now also
[02:42] <Te3-BloodyIron> ahh nice
[02:43] <Te3-BloodyIron> hm okayu
[02:43] <SteelWing> Jordan_U: Also, when I attempt to open trash it says Error while spawning nautilus:
[02:43] <SteelWing> Operation not supported
[02:43] <ilovefairuz> Andorin: did this happen now?
[02:43] <FOCer> can't find Alfresco package in Partner repo (Lucid), was it removed?
[02:44] <Dr_Willis> SteelWing:  as a test. you could make/try a new user and see if they work for them.
[02:44] <Andorin> ilovefairuz: Ah, it happens sometimes when I boot.
[02:44] <Dr_Willis> !info alfresco
[02:44] <SteelWing2> Jordan_U: And trash says Error while spawning nautilus:
[02:44] <Dr_Willis> Does the !info even show stuff from the partner repo? ive never noticed.
[02:44] <SteelWing2> Jordan_U: Operation not supported
[02:44] <BiggFREE> is a cp can be done in from root ?
[02:45] <BiggFREE> is a cp can be done from root ?
[02:45] <FOCer> thx ubottu, Dr_Willis
[02:45] <TheVenerableZ> Does anyone know of free speech-to-text software for ubuntu?
[02:45] <SteelWing2> JordanU: Also I accidentally hit the wrong key combination and stopped the job of irssi so I'm stuck in here twice XD.
[02:45] <bluezone> BiggFREE: yes it can
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> BiggFREE:  clarify what you mean.
[02:45] <BiggFREE> bluezone: Thanks
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> BiggFREE:  'sudo cp foo bar'
[02:45] <SteelWing2> Jordan_U: Also I accidentally hit the wrong key combination and stopped the job of irssi so I'm stuck in here twice XD.
[02:46] <^james_foo^> SteelWing2: you accidentally what?
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> SteelWing2:  bash job controll, 'bg and fg' commands
[02:46] <S4ry> Guys , this is the Ubuntu main channel in English  .. any chance to have one in Arabic !
[02:46] <BiggFREE> Dr_Willis: cp /root/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> S4ry:  there is one in arabic
[02:46] <maco> !sa | S4ry
[02:46] <S4ry> Like : ubuntu-ar
[02:46] <ilovefairuz> Andorin: check if devkit-disks is running: ps aux | grep devkit-disks
[02:46] <Jordan_U> SteelWing2: Can you pastebin the output of "mount"?
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> BiggFREE:  notice how i used the 'sudo' command  befor the cp?
[02:46] <maco> S4ry: read what the bot just said. #ubuntu-arabic
[02:46] <S4ry> Dr_Willis, Yeah , thats may loco team :)
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> !sudo | BiggFREE
[02:47] <IdleOne> S4ry: why are you asking us for the arabic channel when you know full well it exists?
[02:47] <BiggFREE> Dr_Willis: thanks
[02:47] <Andorin> ilovefairuz: Yes
[02:47] <ilovefairuz> S4ry: تعال على  #ubuntu-arabic
[02:47] <S4ry> IdleOne, i didn't know #ubuntu-arabic .. Exists , so chill
[02:48] <BiggFREE> Dr_Willis: it is noted
[02:48] <maco> S4ry: i remember giving you that factoid before though...
[02:48] <IdleOne> S4ry: Have a nice day :)
[02:48] <S4ry> ilovefairuz, got it
[02:48] <S4ry> IdleOne, You too :D
[02:48] <SteelWing2> Jordan_U: Done: http://pastebin.com/MLeugPEw
[02:48] <S4ry> maco, that never happened
[02:49] <SteelWing2> nick SteelWing
[02:49] <SteelWing2> errm.
[02:49] <maco> S4ry: it was some time in the last 2 days, i believe
[02:49] <C_Okie> thanks zzzed the-erm WinstonSmith  and ActionParsnip !!
[02:49] <IdleOne> SteelWing2: /
[02:49] <SteelWing> heh.
[02:49] <ActionParsnip> C_Okie: always a pleasure
[02:49] <S4ry> maco, okay :)
[02:49] <Jordan_U> SteelWing: Ok, it appears that gvfs isn't running. What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[02:49] <bazhang> S4ry, ubuntu support question?
[02:49] <C_Okie> :)
[02:49] <SteelWing> Jordan_U: 10.04
[02:50] <S4ry> bazhang, Nah
[02:50] <bazhang> S4ry, then chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:50] <S4ry> bazhang, am i chatting here right now !
[02:51] <Te3-BloodyIron> Dr_Willis: the daemon still does not start :/
[02:51] <SteelWing> Jordan_U: Should I just go and reinstall gvfs then?
[02:52] <IdleOne> S4ry: could you please join #ubuntu-ops
[02:52] <S4ry> IdleOne, sure
[02:52] <Jordan_U> SteelWing: Maybe. Do you have anything in /usr/local/? (you shouldn't in a default install)
[02:53] <SteelWing> Jordan_U: Apparently yes. I have the base folders: bind etc games include lib man sbin share and src
[02:54] <SteelWing> Jordan_U: bin*
[02:54] <jojosiao> Hi
[02:54] <jojosiao> hello
[02:54] <Te3-BloodyIron> Dr_Willis: are you still there?
[02:55] <hajmola> anyone know how to adjust scroll speed?
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> Te3-BloodyIron:  for another 4 min. yes
[02:55] <toza> hi guys, compizconfig doesnt show me 3d windows
[02:55] <jojosiao> i have a problem with my Ubuntu 10.04.1 just installed using LiveCD it says Disabling IRQ and sometimes shows funny displays
[02:55] <toza> how do i force it
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> Te3-BloodyIron:  what deamon?   I got the attention span of a newt.
[02:55] <Te3-BloodyIron> Dr_Willis: bluetooth
[02:55] <ilovefairuz> IdleOne: pm?
[02:55] <Jordan_U> SteelWing: Could you pastebin the output of "find /usr/local/"? (it may be quite a lot if you've installed a lot of 3rd party applications)
[02:56] <jojosiao> anyone encounter this problem in 10.04.1 -- Disabling IRQ
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> Te3-BloodyIron:  cant really help. My Bluetooth has worked fine with the default stuff in 10.04 (for the first time)
[02:56] <hajmola> toza, are you sure your hardware drivers are enabled?
[02:56] <Te3-BloodyIron> yeah mine was
[02:57] <Te3-BloodyIron> until i messed up my daemon install :/
[02:57] <IdleOne> ilovefairuz: always
[02:57] <Te3-BloodyIron> and now it wont start and i can't find a log giving me an error
[02:57] <ActionParsnip> MSHughes: Azjo the same, if not try the other, in linux the keys are very different, just like the shift keys are different. In windows they are the same
[02:57] <Te3-BloodyIron> do you know where the bluetooth daemon log is?
[02:57] <SteelWing> Jordan_U: There is a problem. I may have too many packages. I've got maybe 2 programs though. Yet, it can't even finish displaying the shared folder.
[02:57] <toza> hajmola: yeah, i can do the cube and rotate it: also I love the candy that is your name
[02:57] <wombatguy> toza: check synaptic that you have everything from compiz extras
[02:58] <hajmola> toza, yeah what he said :) (I love the candy too)
[02:58] <hiexpo> simple ccsm
[02:58] <wombatguy> I'm not really sure where 3d windows is but by default some things aren't there for compiz
[02:58] <SteelWing> Jordan_U: That or thats all there is...
[02:58] <jonas_> hellos
[02:58] <jonas_> hello
[02:59] <toza> wombatguy: hajmola: installing compiz-fusion-plugins-extra now
[02:59] <SteelWing> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/NvatGdxB
[02:59] <jonas_> hello, has anybody used unetbootin?
[02:59] <wombatguy> sounds good
[02:59] <ActionParsnip> toza: also install compizconfig-settings-manager   you will get ccsm and you can enable stuff there
[02:59] <li_bai> i have flash 10 in ubuntu 10 and i'm using firefox 3. for some sites, the flash player works, for other sites, there's a blank spot where the player should be
[02:59] <li_bai> i've reinstalled flashplugin-nonfree several times. tried installing from the adobe site. made sure swfdec and gnash aren't installed
[03:00] <toza> ActionParsnip: already have it also adding the extras fixed it thanks
[03:01] <shro0ms> is it possible to mount the linux partition from windows?
[03:01] <Jordan_U> SteelWing: Ok, that's almost certainly the problem. Your locally installed glib/gvfs is breaking things. Try "sudo mv /usr/local/ /usr/local_broken".
[03:02] <mdg2> hello!  I have fluxbox version of ubuntu running from 2 gig flash drive and an unable to get past log-in screen, but can log in a console.  How can I resolve this?
[03:02] <SteelWing> Jordan_U: That would make sense.... How would I install it properly? XD
[03:02] <ActionParsnip> shro0ms: if its ext2 or ext3 then yes
[03:02] <shro0ms> ActionParsnip, yeah it is
[03:02] <shro0ms> ActionParsnip, how?
[03:02] <Jordan_U> SteelWing: I'm not sure, it depends on what "it" is that added those files.
[03:02] <ActionParsnip> shro0ms: www.fs-driver.org
[03:03] <explosivo2k2> anyone here use an evo as their daily driver (not necessarily CM)
[03:03] <ActionParsnip> mdg2: you mean you instaled ubuntu and installed fluxbox on it...
[03:03] <explosivo2k2> i have a g1, contract up soon, thinking about moving to sprint for the evo..
[03:03] <mdg2> ActionParsnip: fluxbuntu
[03:03] <bazhang> explosivo2k2, ubuntu related to that somehow?
[03:03] <SteelWing> Jordan_U: My failed attempt at installing the latest version of Glib from ftp.gnome.org
[03:03] <shubhkarman> So I installed Ubuntu via Wubi, now whenever I try to start it up I choose ubuntu then I am taken to GRUB but I can't see the Ubuntu option. Anybody knows what's going on?
[03:03] <ActionParsnip> mdg2: its not supported here
[03:03] <explosivo2k2> sorry wrong chan :)
[03:04] <mdg2> ActionParsnip: so if it is ubuntu using fluxbox - that's different?
[03:05] <ActionParsnip> mdg2: its not a canonical release so isnt supported in the official channel
[03:05] <hiexpo> mdg2,  but you can add flux to ubuntu and boot to it
[03:05] <ActionParsnip> !ultimate | mdg2
[03:05] <ActionParsnip> mdg2: those are ALL based on Ubuntu and equally not supported here, just like fluxbuntu
[03:05] <mdg2> ActionParsnip: what about fluxbox specifically?
[03:06] <ActionParsnip> mdg2: there is #fluxbuntu
[03:06] <mdg2> ActionParsnip: where do I go to ask about ubuntu running from a flash drive?
[03:06] <hiexpo> fluxbox is in repos
[03:07] <shro0ms> ActionParsnip, it doesn't work for Win 7. is there anything else?
[03:07] <APJ> Could someone explain to me why ubuntu freezes while at school
[03:07] <Ruum> hey guys
[03:07] <dcplaya_laptop> has anyone has mic problems with google's new webchat plugin?
[03:07] <ActionParsnip> shro0ms: not sure, try asking ni ##windows
[03:07] <Ruum> I made a file an executable by "chmod -x <file name.bin >
[03:07] <shro0ms> ActionParsnip, ok thanks
[03:07] <hiexpo> !fluxbox
[03:07] <mdg2> ActionParsnip: can anyone tell me what is the minimum and maximum sizes of flash drive to be used for a USB install of ubuntu?
[03:08] <OerHeks> shro0ms, fs driver can handle ext 3, not ext4
[03:08] <Ruum> and then I did this command "./file name.bin" and I am getting a "permission denied"
[03:08] <Ruum> wtf is going on?
[03:08] <hiexpo> !language | Ruum
[03:08] <ActionParsnip> mdg2: you can put the liveCD n usb for 700Mb. an installed system can range from about 2Gb upwards
[03:09] <neil_d> I am trying to use rdesktop to connect to a local server, I have xrdp installed on the server, but when I try to log in I get "connecting to 127.0.0.1 5910" "error - problem connecting" :(    this looks like a VNC port number.  what is wrong?
[03:09] <Ruum> sry
[03:09] <Ruum> but I am no idea why ubuntu is behaving weird
[03:09] <Ruum> is it my error?
[03:09] <brady> Recent versions of the kernel won't boot. I've tried to find (google) relevant information, but it appears that ubuntu's popularity has made for a high SNR. My guess it that it has to do with the X driver or the framebuffer, or both. Your thoughts?
[03:09] <mdg2> ActionParsnip: thanks :)
[03:09] <wombatguy> is anyone working on ext4 for windows
[03:10] <jrib> !permissions > Ruum
[03:10] <bazhang> wombatguy, ask in ##windows
[03:10] <wombatguy> ohh yea
[03:10] <jrib> Ruum: the command you ran does not do what you think it does
[03:10] <ActionParsnip> mdg2: if you want super tiny then install the minimal iso to the device then install fluxbox or openbox, will make a super tiny OS
[03:10] <Ruum> kk looking into that.
[03:11] <Patric3> hi there, I have a weird problem with an SRP527w.  After replacing a wrt54gl, I no longer have netbios/hostname resolution (or rather, it's patchy) on my lan
[03:11] <ActionParsnip> wombatguy: i think the fs-driver guys are, microsoft could do it but they are too ignorant or lazy
[03:12] <Patric3> windows machines have no issues -> can ping/resolve etc. netbios names from other machines.  OSX machines are fine for smb sharing, but can't ping the netbios names of other machines
[03:12] <Patric3> can ping the hostname of the srp527w no problem
[03:12] <wombatguy> yea I'm ready to abandon windows completely
[03:13] <wombatguy> i'll still keep a virtual machine but so far there's just no need for the outdated windows trash anymore
[03:13] <wombatguy> but i do have some terminal phobic friends who will always need a dual boot
[03:14] <coz_> wombatguy,  its called  "bashphobia" :)
[03:14] <bluezone> wombatguy: i wouldnt do that if your still a student though,
[03:14] <bluezone> haha
[03:14] <wombatguy> I'm not really a student
[03:14] <wombatguy> do you mean school student?
[03:14] <thune3> brady: you mean updates within an ubuntu series, like 10.04? or updates as in "i can boot 9.10 but can't boot 10.04"?
[03:14] <bluezone> i mean someone who needs windows software 100% functional
[03:15] <wombatguy> i am that but have yet to come accross something I can't do with open software
[03:15] <bluezone> for "conversion" issues
[03:15] <hiexpo> we are not here to bash windows at all  > just support linux / ubuntu :)
[03:15] <bazhang> !ot
[03:15] <Gendo> n la particion para datos envez use el  instalar estandard dedicando todo el disco de 8gb que siendo la version 4 final deberia ser mas que suficiente
[03:15] <KB1JWQ> !es | Gendo
[03:15] <bluezone> thats italian
[03:15] <Gendo> pero al bootear el bios me toma el disco sin problema pero queda como cargando
[03:15] <bluezone> i think
[03:15] <bluezone> not spanish
[03:15] <ShinyDarkness> No, it's Spanish.
[03:15] <bluezone> oh
[03:16] <hiexpo> heehee
[03:16] <Gendo> hey ou want me to speak in english would that be better
[03:16] <coz_> bluezone,  no thats not italian its eithe spanish or portuguese
[03:16] <bazhang> bluezone, hiexpo wombatguy #ubuntu-offtopic for chat please
[03:16] <jojosiao> please help me ... i dont know whats going on... i used wubi to install ubuntu 10.04.1 and it gets stucked after saying Disabling IRQ
[03:16] <bluezone> fine :(
[03:16] <Gendo> hey bluezone i was telling the rest of the guys that i tried to do a full installation on a 8gb sd card and now the card woin't boot
[03:16] <hiexpo> i am not chatting bazhang
[03:17] <brady> thune3, What I mean is that when I updated my 9.10 install to 10.4 (in-place), the only kernel that will sucessfully boot so far is 2.6.31-20-generic. All of the others boot until they reach the stage to start X or display the xubuntu message in a framebuffer (which, I'm not certain). At this point the machine hangs.
[03:17] <bluezone> GendoL im not sure if putting an os on an sd card is a good idea, but don't ask my im not a pro when it comes to ubuntu
[03:18] <jclark5093> I have a question about ubuntu vs debian - anyone with knowledge here?
[03:18] <Jordan_U> Gendo: What happens when you try to boot, has it ever booted?
[03:18] <coz_> jclark5093,  what is the question??
[03:18] <hiexpo> upgrading from one distro to another = train wreck i personally use a fresh install
[03:19] <EbanSoul> does Pscx2 work with ubuntu 10.04 ?
[03:19] <bazhang> !who | hiexpo
[03:19] <xangua> jclark5093: please don't do offtopic
[03:19] <jclark5093> coz: is there any difference between an Ubuntu minimal install and a Debian base system? If so, what?
[03:19] <jclark5093> xangua: what is the topic on this channel?
[03:19] <xangua> jojosiao: did the live version worked¿ try install ubuntu in it's own partition instead
[03:19] <Jordan_U> !topic | jclark5093
[03:19] <IdleOne> jclark5093: Ubuntu support, diffs between ubuntu and Debian are out of scope
[03:19] <bazhang> EbanSoul, the ps2 emulator?
[03:20] <EbanSoul> ty
[03:20] <SteelWing> Jordan_U: Thanks the problem is solved, Now I'm going to go research installing/updating glib properly.
[03:20] <jojosiao> xangua: i am on dual boot
[03:20] <EbanSoul> yes Ps@ emu
[03:20] <ilovefairuz> jclark5093: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:20] <sacarlson> jojosiao: is wubi your only option to install ubuntu?  seems some people with cirtain video cards have problems with wubi.  can you try a live cd boot?
[03:20] <bazhang> EbanSoul, not really no, perhaps one or two games
[03:20] <Jordan_U> SteelWing: You're welcome.
[03:20] <coz_> jclark5093,  well the minimal install...depending on what you choose is going to be either a very basic install or the complete install of ubuntu   or  edubuntu  or kubuntu   as far as debian is concerned... in my opinion  espeicially concerning applications like compiz...debian can be a bit painful  and   "old" in comparison
[03:20] <jclark5093> Ok, I'm looking for help with Ubuntu Minimal install.  The problem is that Debian doesn't seem to work on my box.  I see that as Ubuntu support - I wanted to make sure that it was not going to be the same as Debian - sorry for sounding off topic :-/
[03:21] <jojosiao> sacarlson: okay so you think livecd will work?
[03:21] <sacarlson> jojosiao: more hope than wubi
[03:21] <jojosiao> sacarlson: okay
[03:21] <bazhang> jclark5093, just install the minimal iso and build from there. quite intuitive actually
[03:21] <coz_> jclark5093,  well try the  minimal install...that is what I generally use now... at one point you will see  a list of options for installation
[03:21] <tedtedted> Hello Everyone. Just downloaded 10.04. It starts up and I enter the Wireless WEP Password, then it asks for a New Keyring. Once I type a letter  it Immediately freezes.  any known fixes
[03:21] <sacarlson> jojosiao: just do the live cd try first to see if there are other problems
[03:21] <kalle_> i have got my script to echo text to a file if it isnt there, but it also removes anything that was in the file already how to make echo append to file ?
[03:21] <coz_> jclark5093,  at that point the arrows scroll the list  and the   space bar chooses
[03:21] <jojosiao> sacarlson: if that works, how do i remove installed using wubi?
[03:22] <wombatguy> >
[03:22] <jclark5093> coz_ ncurses based?
[03:22] <ActionParsnip> jclark5093: you can make a very punchy OS with minimal rather than installing all the stuff a default ubuntu comes with
[03:22] <coz_> jclark5093,  yes
[03:22] <Jordan_U> kalle_: Use >> instead of >
[03:22] <gx110> hello net world
[03:22] <thune3> brady: so you downgraded kernel. I'm suspecting intel graphics issue (for which the downgraded kernel is probably a good idea). What is the output of "lspci | grep VGA" ?
[03:22] <kalle_> k thanx jordan
[03:22] <sacarlson> jojosiao: I guess you remove it the same as any other window program or just don't run it
[03:22] <gx110> 1ghz optiplex here
[03:23] <coz_> jclark5093,  on top of which the most current updates are installed and no updating...well... generally no updating after you boot in
[03:23] <jclark5093> Yeah, I like crunchbang (#!) but it's either 9.04 or squeeze based, so I wanted to build my own but based on debain, and deb doesnt work so Ubuntu was my next stop :-)
[03:23] <gx110> old towers...
[03:23] <bazhang> gx110, support question regarding ubuntu?
[03:23] <ilovefairuz> tedtedted: try not entering the keyring password
[03:23] <gx110> nope just running chrunchbang
[03:23] <brady> thune3, 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02)
[03:23] <gx110> it seems to work fine so far
[03:23] <gx110> testing it
[03:24] <bazhang> gx110, try #ubuntu-offtopic for chat, #crunchbang for that distro support
[03:24] <jojosiao> sacarlson: is there a difference if i install ubuntu on laptop or desktop pc/
[03:24] <brady> thune3, What is the recommended kernel for this then? Or, what is the url for such information?
[03:24] <thune3> brady: you are affected by https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Bugs/Lucidi8xxFreezes , sticking on old kernel may be the best idea if it is still working for you
[03:24] <jojosiao> sacarlson: coz, the screen is displaying out of this world
[03:24] <jclark5093> gx110: I have it on my laptop, but for my desktop I want something more stable, and I like things built by me - something to be proud of ;-)
[03:24] <sacarlson> jojosiao: there's always a little difference in every computer that has different chips sets for different devices
[03:24] <gx110> right
[03:24] <jojosiao> sacarlson: ah ok
[03:25] <gx110> I was going to try debian
[03:25] <jclark5093> So will Ubuntu base (before extra pkgs) be *any* different than Debian base (before extra pkgs)?
[03:25] <gx110> but installation as we all know is sometimes difficult
[03:25] <jojosiao> sacarlson: sometimes livecd works sometimes not
[03:25] <hiexpo> ubuntu is built on debian
[03:25] <sacarlson> jojosiao: is that a question?  if so yes sometimes it works and sometimes not
[03:26] <jojosiao> sacarlson: okay... i understand now
[03:26] <jclark5093> but what extras does ubuntu have that are missing in debian (besides FF lol)
[03:26] <tedtedted> ilovefairuz: canceled when it asks for Wireless Password and it works.. but no wireless
[03:26] <gx110> I was going to try a base install of debian then build it up
[03:27] <gx110> using aptitude
[03:27] <bazhang> !ot | gx110
[03:27] <ilovefairuz> jclark5093: different package versions/patches. it won't feel really different other than that.
[03:27] <Divecks> Hey guys, I've got pulseaudio streaming between my two ubuntu computers, but the sound gets choppy every so often. I'm assuming that's because I'm using TCP (uncompressed) as opposed to RTP (compressed). But I can't, for the life of me, figure out how to set up an RTP server? I'm using the GUI for pulseaudio (padevchooser). Thanks!
[03:28] <jclark5093> I planned on using aptitude install for building up my Ubuntu, just not sure if it's already different from basic deb (kexts? repos? of course repos, but other than that.....?)
[03:28] <coz_> Divecks,  I dont know ...it gets choppy on my one machine regardless
[03:28] <traskmind> How can I change my default file manager in GNOME from Nautilus to PCManFM?
[03:28] <ilovefairuz> tedtedted: not the wireless password, you said it also asks for a keyring password
[03:28] <Divecks> coz_, Regardless of RTP or TCP?
[03:28] <traskmind> I have it working for the Computer icon in the GNOME menu, but nothing else.
[03:28] <coz_> Divecks,  yeah it is choppy just on a single machine install
[03:29] <coz_> Divecks,  on my other machine however I compile alsa driver for my card and all is well
[03:29] <jclark5093> ilovefairuz: Really?  That's interesting... so Ubuntu is debian based in that it has it's own configured Gnome-Desktop and KDE-desktop in the repos?  Other than that its' the same?
[03:29] <jojosiao> sacarlson: then I have 2 options now since 10.04 doesnt work on my laptop, but previous versions did: 1st, get previous version; 2nd, dont put linux on my laptop...
[03:29] <Divecks> Divecks, Because I can stream 1080p video over samba/sshfs just fine.. So I don't get why pulse should be a bit choppy. I mean, it works 100% on the machine's local speakers. But over wireless.. it just is a bit laggy.
[03:30] <Ruum> hey what is the default root password for ubuntu?
[03:30] <Jordan_U> !root | Ruum
[03:30] <sacarlson> jojosiao: so you laptop won't boot the live boot cd for 10.04?  how far into boot does it get?
[03:30] <bazhang> Ruum, there is not one.
[03:30] <ilovefairuz> jclark5093: it boils down to a package-by-package finer details (for major packages anyway) but yes no "significant" changes in system overall structure and feel
[03:30] <coz_> Ruum,  all you really need to do is   sudo -i
[03:31] <jojosiao> sacarlson: livecd boots but screen is funny
[03:31] <coz_> Ruum,  then use your user password
[03:31] <Jordan_U> jojosiao: What graphics card?
[03:31] <jclark5093> ilovefairuz: Thanks!  Finally an answer!  Exactly what I needed to know (one way or the other).  Much appreciated.
[03:31] <thune3> brady: since you have exact 855GM needed for GTT patch, you might have success with that one.
[03:31] <Divecks> coz_, Yeah I'm pretty sure it's a bandwidth/compression problem. Both computers are essentially maxing their bandwidth doing just pulseaudio.. Do you think RTP would make any difference at all?
[03:31] <Ruum> kk thanks!!
[03:31] <jojosiao> sacarlson: livecd sometimes say disabling IRQ
[03:31] <wombatguy> jojosiao: nvidia?
[03:31] <sacarlson> jojosiao: funny more specific?  maybe need to change rate on video
[03:31] <jojosiao> no
[03:31] <jojosiao> just an old neo laptop
[03:32] <coz_> Divecks,  on that I dont think i could answer well...you could try the #pulseaudio  or #alsa channels:)
[03:32] <tedtedted> ilovefairuz: I entered the wireless password then it immediately asked for the keyring after that.
[03:32] <Divecks> coz_, Will do. Thanks for the help mate! :)
[03:32] <jclark5093> Thank you all for the help!  And Ruum: ubuntu has no root pw ever.  There is no root account... (although I think you can still "su" from the command line............hmmm........) Anyway, Thanks again, and TTFN!
[03:32] <Tourist> How would one go about reseting their audio device?
[03:32] <coz_> Divecks,  no problem
[03:32] <jojosiao> sacarlson: do you think i can modify config on display on grub?
[03:32] <tedtedted> but when I canceled the typing in wireless it didnt ask for keyring
[03:32] <jclark5093> And thanks coz_ too!
[03:32] <jojosiao> guys wait
[03:32] <ilovefairuz> tedtedted: ignore the keyring password
[03:32] <coz_> jclark5093,  no problem
[03:32] <brady> thune3, I am attempting presently.
[03:33] <jojosiao> after 5 - 7 minutes of screen acting very weird, the display works back to normal
[03:33] <tedtedted> i did
[03:33] <sacarlson> jojosiao: wombatguy is asking if your video chips set are nvidia.  you can check with lspci,  if you can see the display good enuf you can change video setting in System>preference>monitors
[03:33] <thune3> brady: i think you will want to boot into 2.6.32 kernel first
[03:34] <jojosiao> sacarlson: okay please wait
[03:34] <brady> thune3: In "recovery" mode?
[03:35] <jojosiao> sacarlson: i was able to come to the point where user login window shows up but it hangs
[03:35] <thune3> brady: either that or you can use the instructions in section "From an installation:" from workaround A"
[03:35] <sacarlson> jojosiao: there is also a way to force vesa  but I havn't used it in a long time by adding -vesa to the grub boot line
[03:36] <jojosiao> sacarlson: okay... hmmm just rebooted again to ubuntu
[03:36] <Lucianocaf> boa noite pessoal
[03:36] <bazhang> !br | Lucianocaf
[03:36] <sacarlson> jojosiao: well at boot in grub2 you can hold shift and get the grub menu,  not sure how you add the -vesa  value to boot
[03:37] <gimmickless> anybody else having overheating problems when playing YouTube?
[03:37] <sacarlson> jojosiao: I asume your problem is in the video driver but it could also be in sound so you can also try disable sound drivers in the bios.  the sound is much less likly then video problem.
[03:37] <jojosiao> sacarlson:hmm even before i get to grub, it says Disabling IRQ #4, IRQ # 5 , IRQ # 1, and then hangs
[03:38] <sacarlson> anyone know what irq 4 5 and 1 might do?  maybe in bios you might see what those are used for or maybe that's normal
[03:39] <jojosiao> sacarlson: i checked BIOS and i dont see IRQ there
[03:39] <chisaipete> can anyone help me with install problems?
[03:39] <bazhang> chisaipete, ask a question
[03:39] <coz_> chisaipete,  what is the problem and what are you installing?
[03:39] <sacarlson> jojosiao: not sure it's related to your problem.
[03:40] <StepNjump2> ActionParsnip: Thank you for helping me setting up my NVIDIA card. It worked! Thank you a million!
[03:40] <chisaipete> so, I burned the latest 32-bit download to a CD, and when I boot to it, it redirects me to BusyBox
[03:40] <thune3> gimmickless: what's overheating?
[03:40] <ActionParsnip> StepNjump2: np man, simple stuff
[03:40] <bazhang> md5 the iso then reburn at low speed and do the disk intregrity check chisaipete
[03:40] <jojosiao> sacarlson: hmmm i think this is a bug in 10.04 ubuntu
[03:40] <coz_> chisaipete,   try  at the busy box prompt  type    exit
[03:40] <LinuxFetus> I'm running Ubuntu 10.04 32 bit.   am following a guide... and I'm supposed to edit my ~/.bashrc file... I'm trying to make a backup.  "cp ~/.bash_profile ~/.bash_profile.bak" isn't working , though.   It tells me "cp: cannot stat `/home/jared/.bash_profile': No such file or directory"  ... what am I doing wrong?
[03:41] <StepNjump2> Yeah maybe but my desktop runs so much faster now (looks better too). Makes it much more fun to be on Linux.
[03:41] <zeleftikam> is Ubuntu Server 10.04.1 not supposed to be able to run on Atom D510 based systems? my install fails
[03:41] <sacarlson> jojosiao: so you can't even get to the grub2 menu when you hold shift at boot time?
[03:41] <jojosiao> sacarlson: yeah sometimes...
[03:41] <jojosiao> sacarlson: consider me lucky if i was able to get to the login window
[03:42] <LinuxFetus> The guide didn't tell me to back it up... but when I edit system files that I'm not familiar, I always like to make a backup.  In case something goes wrong and I compromise my system I can boot from a live CD and restore the files.
[03:42] <kasun> Hello, I'm experiencing a terrible error. I was using "password not asked on login" setting and I want to change it back to "ask" mode. I changed it from "Users Settings" dialog but it still does not ask for the password
[03:42] <sacarlson> jojosiao: well maybe you didn't hold the key at time needed,  but when you do see about adding -vesa to the boot line.  anyone know how to add to the boot line in grub2?
[03:42] <kasun> Can anyone help me on this?
[03:43] <sacarlson> jojosiao: the grub2 menu is before the login window so it must get that far.
[03:44] <jojosiao> sacarlson: yeah
[03:44] <chisaipete> so, I tried typing exit at the BusyBox, no dice-- it says "can't open /root/dev/console: Input/output error   Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!
[03:44] <Nic_> Hello?
[03:44] <bazhang> chisaipete, bad burn/corrupt iso
[03:44] <Nic_> Finally, thank goodness :\
[03:44] <Nic_> I really need help
[03:44] <jojosiao> sacarlson: most likely, i get IRQ problems before getting to grub and then the login window
[03:44] <thune3> LinuxFetus: if you are trying to back up .bashrc, why are running command to back up file  .bash_profile?
[03:44] <gimmickless> thume3, I have a Toshiba Satellite laptop that overheatts constantliy
[03:44] <chisaipete> hmm bazhang
[03:44] <Nic_> My computer won't start at all
[03:45] <Nic_> It starts, but stalls at the startup screen
[03:45] <gimmickless> looking at playing with the ACPI
[03:45] <Nic_> Can someone talk me through this, please?
[03:45] <chisaipete> are there any logs to confirm before reburning?
[03:45] <sacarlson> jojosiao: well worst case with less interupts is just less hardware is supported
[03:45] <Nic_> I am really stressed out because of this :(
[03:45] <LinuxFetus> thune3: Oh wow... that was probably the problem.
[03:46] <Nic_> Hello?
[03:46] <Nic_> Come on, somebody?
[03:46] <jojosiao> if i boot using wubi, Microsoft boot loader comes in first then grub, then sometimes, complains about IRQ
[03:46] <LinuxFetus> thune3: That was the problem... Thanks!
[03:46] <Nic_> This computer is really important, its my school :\
[03:47] <Nic_> Somebody please help me :(
[03:47] <bazhang> !helpme | Nic_
[03:47] <sacarlson> jojosiao: add -vesa to the linux line in grub2 edit mode see this for details on edit mode in grub2 http://members.iinet.net/~herman546/p20/GRUB2%20Edit%20Mode.html
[03:48] <Nic_> That sucks...
[03:48] <Nic_> Would more information help?
[03:49] <bcbc2> Nic_: yes
[03:49] <jojosiao> sacarlson: okay will try that thanks
[03:49] <coz_> Nic_,  as much info as you can give is always helpful however... dont paste more than a few lines in the actual channel go to pastebin.com for that
[03:49] <bazhang> Nic_, and keep it all on one line
[03:49] <chisaipete> where can I find the md5 hashes for the new isos?
[03:49] <coz_> chisaipete,  hold on
[03:50] <sacarlson> Nic_:  did you try a live boot cd.  all I see is you computer is stuck no details for me to help you any more without details
[03:50] <thune3> gimmickless: so your fan control isn't working correctly, the heatsink/airflow path is blocked, or fan is failing.
[03:50] <Nic_> I just updated yesterday, and restarted tonight, and now it just goes to the startup screen and doesn't go anywhere after that. I am running ubuntu studio, if that helps at all. I have tried pressing escape at boot startup and trying a different version or "recovery mode", but all of them stall at some point
[03:50] <coz_> chisaipete,    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[03:50] <traskmind> How do I start MPD at boot in 10.04?
[03:51] <chisaipete> thanks coz
[03:51] <sacarlson> Nic_:  you can try the live boot cd if that works I would try boot the older kernel with the grub2 menu options
[03:51] <thune3> gimmickless: or you have notebook that normally gets kinda hot under load
[03:51] <Nic_> Wouldn't that make me lose all information I have on my computer from before?
[03:52] <sacarlson> Nic_ no you can boot a live cd and run in try mode without damage to your original data
[03:52] <Nic_> But what would I do from there? And I don't even have a CD at the moment, except an old one for 8, I think it is
[03:52] <chisaipete> so, the md5 matched on the iso
[03:53] <bazhang> chisaipete, good. now reburn iso at low speed, and then do the disk integrity check
[03:53] <sacarlson> Nic_:  that depends on if it boots or not.  maybe your problem is hardware.  maybe you have to install another kernel.  just one step at a time.
[03:53] <chisaipete> when I burned it originally using imgBurn, it verified fine too
[03:53] <bazhang> Nic_, download a newer version
[03:53] <chisaipete> okay bazhang, i'll try it
[03:53] <bazhang> chisaipete, then try the alternate installer if all else fails
[03:53] <Nic_> That is going to take a long time, wont it?
[03:54] <Nic_> I have to be sleeping now :\
[03:54] <bazhang> Nic_, depends on your net connection
[03:54] <sacarlson> bazhang: she just upgraded that may be what caused her problem,  sometimes newer is not better
[03:54] <bazhang> sacarlson, she being whom?
[03:54] <Nic_> Let me do a pastebin of what it is like at startup
[03:54] <rpcesar> hello. I am not sure the best place to look for this, so ANY information (including redirecting me to another room) I would appreciate. My problem is that I am trying to get a copy of CIV-IV to run using Wine. I have tried the usual wine install (including the newest version (.3), as well as the latest distro version (.2)
[03:54] <sacarlson> bazhang: whom?
[03:54] <fixermark> Greetings all! I have a question regarding window managers in gnome. I've been trying to get XMonad running with gnome-session. I've got it working and am 95% happy; just trying to nail down the last 5%.
[03:54] <gimmickless> thune3, only seems to shut off when browser is on YouTube (downloaded FLV files work fine in Movie Player) or when Wesnoth is running.
[03:55] <bazhang> rpcesar, check the appdb and join #winehq
[03:55] <rpcesar> the problem is it crashes at the very launch (can tell by doing winedbg). however I am not sure how to even get windbg working with PlayonLinux (something I am trying)
[03:55] <bazhang> !appdb | rpcesar
[03:55] <rpcesar> thanks bazhang, is that on this network?
[03:55] <bazhang> rpcesar, yep
[03:55] <rpcesar> thanks so much bazhang
[03:55] <gimmickless> Have tried using CPU utility to run conservatively.
[03:55] <fixermark> Here's the issue: I used gconftool-2 to set /desktop/gnome/session/required_components/windowmanager xmonad. That worked, but it appears to have changed the setting for all my sessions.
[03:56] <bazhang> sacarlson, you said she, don't know which nick that refers to
[03:56] <fixermark> Is there a way to set the wm to xmonad for my XMonad session but not, for example, my Ubuntu Netbook Edition session?
[03:56] <arcane__> hell oall im having a heck of a time trying to install software on this it wont let me undo the unviersal etc to use .exe like flashget
[03:56] <thune3> gimmickless: so you are getting errors (crash) when cpu utilization is high. you have any fan control settings in bios?
[03:56] <arcane__> cant seem to install anything
[03:56] <bazhang> arcane__, that is a firefox plugin. install via extensions
[03:57] <gimmickless> thune3, have not looked for that, honestly. i can be back in 5 minutes and let you know
[03:57] <arcane__> i mean ican install deamon tools or anything i download with a .exe extension
[03:57] <arcane__> cant
[03:57] <bazhang> arcane__, that's not how to install software in ubuntu
[03:58] <arcane__> i need to use the synaptic package i know but i cant seem to disable the unviersal
[03:58] <thune3> gimmickless: make sure any air ports are free of dust while you are at it
[03:58] <WinstonSmith> arcane__, instead of daemontools have a look at cdemu
[03:58] <bazhang> arcane__, what is the unviersal
[03:58] <simone_> ço para instalar o media mobile converter no ubuntu
[03:58] <arcane__> no idea somthin in the sourcelist it told me to disable
[03:59] <WinstonSmith> !pt | simone_
[03:59] <bazhang> arcane__, pastebin the exact error message at paste.ubuntu.com
[03:59] <arcane__> mulitunviersal and universal im so confused lol
[03:59] <simone_> ok
[03:59] <kalle_> howto echo all output to screen and to a logfile ?
[04:00] <WinstonSmith> simone faz /join #ubuntu-pt
[04:00] <arcane__> look how do i install a download software in unbunto ? such as somthing with a .exe extension i tried the synaptic package manger it wont pull up the download file
[04:00] <Nic_> Ok, did a quick pastebin
[04:00] <Nic_> http://pastebin.com/4hCUicnk
[04:01] <arcane__> u can see it its just grayed out
[04:01] <bazhang> arcane__, that doesnt make sense. try rephrasing
[04:01] <arcane__> ok
[04:01] <arcane__> do i use the synaptic package manger to install software?
[04:01] <arcane__> start one part at a time
[04:01] <coz_> arcane__,  that is one way yes  and i prefer that if possible
[04:02] <ActionParsnip> arcane__: what are you trying to install?
[04:02] <bazhang> arcane__, you should really have a read of the ubuntu manual for such basic stuff
[04:02] <bazhang> !manual | arcane__
[04:02] <Nic_> Any idea after reading the pastebin? I hope it helped at least a little :\
[04:02] <arcane__> i understand that aspect of installing software i cant seem to get the .exe to load in the manger
[04:02] <nid> Hi
[04:02] <arcane__> its hows the file but its grayed out
[04:02] <bazhang> arcane__, no need for exe
[04:02] <sacarlson> Nic_: I think you should try a live boot cd I can also tell you that I run 2.6.32-24-generic if that is one of them try that.
[04:03] <bazhang> arcane__, please have a look at the manual first
[04:03] <Nic_> I will check real quick...
[04:03] <arcane__> i will go read it thanks for the help
[04:03] <sacarlson> Nic_: and what did you upgrade from?
[04:03] <Nic_> I dont have time to download the live.cd, it is past my bedtime :\
[04:03] <jojosiao> sacarlson: i think this link will help ... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1547921
[04:04] <sacarlson> Nic_:  not a new live cd try one you already have is better since you know that worked
[04:04] <Nic_> It was just a routine update (not upgrade), and after it was done it said it did not complete entirely...
[04:04] <chisaipete> i'm going to burn the alternate installer at low speed as soon as it finishes downloading
[04:05] <Nic_> I am going to try one of the "recovery modes"
[04:05] <jojosiao> sacarlson: this link works for me : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1547921
[04:05] <piper69> how do i know if there is sftp session still running please
[04:05] <gimmickless> thune3, no fan settings in BIOS.  Only able to set CPU to work at half-speed.
[04:05] <jojosiao> sacarlson:  thank you very much for the help!
[04:05] <Nic_> I see a lot of white text on a black screen, looks like it is moving along which is a good sign
[04:05] <gimmickless> which I have done
[04:06] <Guest18666> hi everyone
[04:06] <sacarlson> jojosiao: noapi thing is normaly just mean that the computer can't shutdown power with software you might have to power down manualy no big deal
[04:06] <Guest18666> i just installed ubuntu
[04:06] <jojosiao> sacarlson: but i was able to login without any problem
[04:07] <sacarlson> jojosiao: it might also have to do with some bios support from ubuntu I'm not sure
[04:07] <sacarlson> jojosiao:  ok fixed case closed
[04:07] <Nic_> It just stopped. It is stuck on this "ata6: SATA max UDMA/133 abar m2048@0xfed1c800 port 0xfed1cb80 irq 28"
[04:07] <Nic_> Not going anywhere...
[04:08] <sacarlson> Nic_: that's your boot cd?  make sure you setup that it boots the cd first
[04:08] <Nic_> I haven't got a CD yet, remember?
[04:08] <jojosiao> sacarlson: i still want to say that i appreciate your assistance
[04:08] <Nic_> I don't have time to download one
[04:08] <jojosiao> sacarlson: so thank you very much
[04:08] <Nic_> I tried booting from one of the "recovery mode" options on that list
[04:09] <sacarlson> jojosiao: no problem glad to have helped if I really did anything I'm not sure.
[04:09] <niglop> is blender under linux the same as windows?
[04:09] <jojosiao> sacarlson: :D
[04:09] <RandyRKelly> hello im trying to  install aosp but having issues
[04:09] <bazhang> niglop, try in #blender ?
[04:09] <Andrezao> #ubuntu-br
[04:10] <sacarlson> Nic_:  no I seemed to have missed that line about not having a cd drive,  oh you don't have the original cd you installed.  how did you install it the first time?
[04:10] <fixermark> Okay, so quick question: Does gnome-session still understand a WINDOW_MANAGER environment variable as of 2.30.0 ?
[04:11] <Andrezao> ola amigos
[04:11] <Andrezao> #ubuntubr
[04:11] <no_u0> i tried to upgrade to alsa 1.0.23. synaptic said it installed fine. it shows that version in the list, but when i check /proc/asound/version, it still says 1.0.20!? \
[04:11] <sacarlson> Nic_: do you boot of network or something?
[04:11] <Nic_> sacarlson: I used a liveCD for version 9.04
[04:11] <ubuntu_n00b> hey guys... I have a REALLY weird problem with my system... I can't see the lowercase letter "M"! how do I fix this? It's a really annoying problem, and it makes the interface really confusing.
[04:11] <Nic_> Would it make sense to use that?
[04:11] <sacarlson> Nic_: yes were is that 9.04 disk?  boot that
[04:12] <Nic_> It is in my hand right now! :P
[04:12] <Nic_> I will give it a shot
[04:12] <ubuntu_n00b> This sounds crazy, but it's totally true
[04:12] <sacarlson> Nic_: YES plug it into the computer where that round thing goes.
[04:13] <Nic_> Hehehe, mr sarcasm :P
[04:13] <ubuntu_n00b> this is kinda important to get fixed :(
[04:13] <gimmickless> ubuntu_noob, is this true for all fonts?  check your character map
[04:13] <ubuntu_n00b> gimmickless: it doesn't happen in the chat window, but only after I send the message.
[04:14] <sacarlson> ubuntu_n00b: you can't see it or you can't type it?
[04:14] <ubuntu_n00b> I didn't change any settings since I got Ubuntu, and it just started doing this today
[04:14] <Andrezao> alguem pode me ajudar??
[04:14] <ubuntu_n00b> I can type it, but I can't see it
[04:14] <ubuntu_n00b> mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[04:14] <Nic_> It isn't booting from my liveCD
[04:14] <ubuntu_n00b> I couldn't see _anything_ until I pressed enter on that line
[04:14] <gimmickless> does this problem only happen in IRC, or is this also in text documents
[04:14] <sacarlson> ubuntu_n00b: well seems the key works I see mm does everyone else?
[04:14] <WinstonSmith> !pt | Andrezao
[04:14] <ubuntu_n00b> text documents, and _all_ of the menus...
[04:15] <Andrezao> #unbuntu-br
[04:15] <sacarlson> Nic_:  with the same problem?  make sure bios is set to boot cd first
[04:15] <Andrezao> #ubuntu-br
[04:15] <Andrezao> #ubuntu-pt
[04:15] <WinstonSmith> Andrezao, faz /join ubuntu-br
[04:15] <gimmickless> Try looking at Applications > Acessories > Character Map
[04:15] <ubuntu_n00b> the "m" is there.
[04:16] <ubuntu_n00b> both of them
[04:16] <david_> hello
[04:16] <ubuntu_n00b> but when I type in the character map input box thing, I can't see the "m"s I type
[04:17] <Nic_> It is booting from the CD
[04:17] <Nic_> "Try ubuntu without any change to your computer"?
[04:17] <gimmickless> Wow.  That's.  Wow.
[04:17] <devoir> hello
[04:17] <ubuntu_n00b> I'm so confused... I don't know how I broke it...
[04:18] <sacarlson> Nic_: try mode
[04:18] <Nic_> Alright
[04:18] <Andorin> So it appears that sometimes, when I boot my Lucid box, USB devices will not automount when plugged in... and other partitions on my HDD don't appear in the Places menu. Any reason for this?
[04:18] <dwon> So, to answer my question from a few hours ago, the trick is to install linux-image-ec2 instead of linux-image-generic-pae.
[04:19] <fixermark> ubuntu_n00b: A screenshot might help.
[04:19] <sacarlson> Nic_:  ok so if this boots ok we should try mount the disk that has your normal boot partition and see if that is mountable.
[04:19] <ubuntu_n00b> ok...
[04:19] <Nic_> It looks like it is starting, but the CD is making a lot of noise
[04:19] <itsux2bu> so differences or simularities between  apt-get vs dpkg vs aptitude vs tasksel?   i have been using apt-get mostly.. dpkg some (dpkg = debian packager).. haven't used aptitude or aptitude yet..
[04:19] <Nic_> Oh, looks like it is starting now
[04:20] <itsux2bu> *so what are
[04:20] <sacarlson> Nic_:  it probly has some bad sectors and will retry till it hopfully reads it.  it's also slow to boot cd's
[04:20] <UnderSampled> I added this to my /usr/lib/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-wacom.conf: /usr/lib/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-wacom.conf
[04:20] <UnderSampled> http://www.pasteall.org/15276
[04:20] <Nic_> Sorry for being so noob, I am really tired
[04:20] <Connor1> Awesome window manager, internet will not connect, but it works fine in Gnome. Any way to get NetworkManager running in awesome?
[04:20] <Connor1> Running NetworkManager isn't fixing it.
[04:21] <UnderSampled> it doesn't seem to do anything though
[04:21] <sacarlson> Nic_:  you should come sleep with me then we can wake up and fix it in the morning when you fresh.
[04:21] <UnderSampled> how do I trouble shoot it?
[04:21] <Nic_> I have a mouse, but the screen is blank
[04:21] <Nic_> Ooh, startup noise
[04:21] <prince_jammys> Connor1: install network-manager-gnome, and try running 'nm-applet' in the background.
[04:21] <Nic_> Aaaaaand we are on ^_^
[04:21] <prince_jammys> !info network-manager-gnome
[04:21] <Connor1> nm-applet
[04:21] <Nic_> Ok, it is on now
[04:21] <Connor1> That was what it was
[04:21] <Nic_> But yeah, I should go to sleep soon
[04:21] <ubuntu_n00b> fixermark: I'll get you a couple of screenshots. coming right up!
[04:21] <Nic_> But first, lets see if this works
[04:22] <Nic_> It is running of the CD now
[04:22] <sacarlson> Nic_:  try places>comptuter and see if you can mount the disk that normaly boots
[04:22] <qiyong> what's the standard tool to configure rc.d ?
[04:22] <Nic_> So try mounting "310.9 GB Media"?
[04:22] <tonysan> I can't connect to my remote desktop with vnc, how to enable/fix it in console?
[04:22] <qiyong> rcconf isn't shipped
[04:22] <sacarlson> Nic_: was that last one a question?  yes its running off the cd now.
[04:22] <kasun> Can anyone help me on this?
[04:22] <kasun> Hello, I'm experiencing a terrible error. I was using "password not asked on login" setting and I want to change it back to "ask" mode. I changed it from "Users Settings" dialog but it still does not ask for the password
[04:23] <qiyong> what's the standard tool to configure rc.d ? rcconf isn't shipped. so what tools else?
[04:23] <Nic_> Know, I know it is now
[04:23] <Nic_> *no
[04:23] <ubuntu_n00b> http://www.filedropper.com/problem_3
[04:23] <Nic_> sacarlson: Mount "310.9 GB Media"?
[04:23] <sacarlson> Nic_: try that in fact try them all if you have more than one to be sure they are all mountable
[04:23] <ubuntu_n00b> fixermark: http://www.filedropper.com/problem_3
[04:23] <Nic_> There is that, Filesystem, Cd drive, and Usb drive
[04:23] <Nic_> So I will try 310
[04:24] <ubuntu_n00b> have you ever seen anything like that before?
[04:24] <ubuntu_n00b> I have NO IDEA how to fix this... :(
[04:24] <Nic_> I am trying to mount it now
[04:24] <sacarlson> Nic_:  oh you had a usb drive pluged in?  well try them all.  later we will unplug that usb disk if it's not needed.
[04:24] <Nic_> No USB plugged in
[04:24] <prince_jammys> itsux2bu: dpkg is lower level, used to install individual .deb files and to query packages, among other things. 'aptitude' has a text-mode interface and at one point used to be smarter about handling removing that were automatically installed. i think nowadays there are fewer differences between apt-get and aptitude. If you have both the latter installed, i recommend aptitude.\
[04:24] <Nic_> It just says that...
[04:25] <tonysan> I can't connect to my remote desktop with vnc, how to enable/fix it in console?
[04:25] <Nic_> I picked mount, but nothing is really happening, sacarlson
[04:25] <ubuntu_n00b> Almost every single lowercase M on the screen appears as a space
[04:25] <prince_jammys> *removing packages
[04:25] <sacarlson> nic_: when I say mount normaly all that is required is to double click the disk icons to get them to mount and open
[04:26] <Nic_> Alright it is mounted in that case!
[04:26] <Sunderphon> I don't have a "Network" option under places, how do I add it to that menu?
[04:26] <fixermark> ubuntu_n00b: Hunh. So specifically, it's your gnome desktop apps. Your taskbar, the various dialogs, etc. Your chat client is fine.
[04:26] <Nic_> I can see inside :)
[04:26] <PeterFA> I just installed Ubuntu and I don't have sound. I tried to remove Pulseaudio and that didn't work.
[04:26] <ubuntu_n00b> not the little box I type in...
[04:26] <Nic_> I see my normal home folder here
[04:26] <PeterFA> I mean, I did successfully remove it but it didn't fix my sound.
[04:26] <ubuntu_n00b> I can't see the lowercase ms I type
[04:26] <sacarlson> Nic_: ok you can see inside all of them?
[04:26] <Nic_> And I can see my music and stuff, etc
[04:26] <Nic_> Yep!
[04:26] <fixermark> ubuntu_n00b: My guess is that something bad happened to whatever default font your gnome session is using. I'd recommend zeroing in on that possibility.
[04:27] <fixermark> Unfortunately, my knowledge of how to diagnose / repair font issues doesn't go far past "try re-installing the font."
[04:27] <ubuntu_n00b> I didn't change any settings though... with the exception of the volume occasionally
[04:27] <sacarlson> Nic_: well seems that the disk aren't corrupted then.  must be in the kernel or something in the xserver setting then
[04:27] <Nic_> So what should I do?
[04:27] <Nic_> This is good news, though :)
[04:27] <fixermark> ubuntu_n00b: I believe you. But I'm out of other ideas. ;)
[04:27] <kasun> Hello, I was using "password not asked on login" setting and I want to change it back to "ask" mode. I changed it from "Users Settings" dialog but it still does not ask for the password. can someone help me?
[04:27] <Nic_> I am glad my stuff isn't destoyed :)
[04:28] <fixermark> The fact that the 'm' characters do show up in the chat output points the finger at a font issue.
[04:28] <Sunderphon> I don't have a "Network" option under places, how do I add it to that menu?
[04:28] <sacarlson> Nic_: well it gets to how far in the boot with the harddisk?  not even to login screen?
[04:29] <Nic_> It normally skips login since I am the only one who uses it
[04:29] <ubuntu_n00b> :( does anyone here know why I can't see the lowercase letter "M" on my screen? I have no idea how to fix this, so unless someone else tells me, It'll never get fixed :/
[04:29] <Nic_> But yeah, it only gets to the "Starting Up ..." screen, sacarlson
[04:29] <sacarlson> Nic_:  oh ok it auto logs in
[04:29] <Nic_> It just doesn't go anywhere after that
[04:29] <Nic_> Yep
[04:29] <facu__> holaa
[04:29] <facu__> alguien
[04:29] <santobob> algum brasileiro na rede
[04:29] <fixermark> ubuntu_n00b: If you're not interested in investigating the font issue, you could always move your data someplace safe and re-install from scratch.
[04:30] <facu__> ALGUIEN DE SANTA FE
[04:30] <sacarlson> Nic_:  well now we should go and look on that disk that normaly boots and look in /var/log
[04:30] <prince_jammys> !es | facu__
[04:30] <fixermark> Sorry, but disappearing 'm's is not a common problem. It's unlikely someone will be able to magically gin up a solution for this very unusual issue :(
[04:30] <Nic_> Ok, I will take a look sacarlson
[04:30] <sacarlson> Nic_: there we might find clues as to why it didn't boot so we can find a solution
[04:30] <PeterFA> I have an ICH10 sound card with ALSA. I don't have sound. What should I do?
[04:30] <ubuntu_n00b> How do I reinstall only the fonts... I don't want to bother reinstalling from scratch, it's a pain.
[04:30] <Sunderphon> I don't have a "Network" option under places, how do I add it to that menu?
[04:31] <Nic_> sacarlson: I am in var/log, now what?
[04:31] <fixermark> You'll have to figure out what the default system font is. Then you can check online to see what package it lives in and try re-installing that package.
[04:31] <ubuntu_n00b> This is a fine example of one of the things you expect to "just work"...
[04:31] <Nic_> I see a few text files and folders
[04:31] <Loshki> My 10.04 install is spending a lot time installing language packs (it never asked if I want them, and never asked if it was ok to web access). If I press "skip" will it break something? It never offered to explain exactly what would be skipped. Bad job ubuntu installer developers....
[04:31] <fixermark> I agree!
[04:31] <Sunderphon> Can someone help me add Network to the places menu?
[04:31] <ubuntu_n00b> every other letter works perfectly...
[04:31] <sacarlson> Nic_: media/xxxxxxx/var/log/syslog
[04:32] <sacarlson> Nic_: media is where it probly mounted you normal boot disk
[04:32] <fixermark> Your default font is likely "Sans", if you haven't changed it.
[04:32] <ubuntu_n00b> computers suck :( Something is _always_ broken except when it comes right out of the box
[04:32] <Nic_> I found the syslog, sacarlson
[04:32] <Nic_> It is just a big ol' text file
[04:32] <sacarlson> Nic_: xxxx is some big number or something you labled you disk with
[04:32] <fixermark> Try going to the "System" menu, pull up "Appearance", and select the "Fonts" tab. Type in the text box and see if 'm' appears.
[04:33] <Nic_> sacarlson: I am already there :)
[04:33] <PrincepsRegulus> hello all
[04:33] <itsux2bu> so does anyone know if Mark Shuttleworth ever comes in the channel?
[04:33] <Nic_> Just a textfile called syslog
[04:33] <cosmonaut> test
[04:33] <Sunderphon> Can someone help me add "Network" to the places menu?
[04:33] <PrincepsRegulus> need some noob-ey help
[04:33] <sacarlson> Nic_:  ok paistbin that and the xorg.0.log also
[04:33] <Nic_> Oh man, let me try connecting to the internet first, one sec
[04:33] <ubuntu_n00b> there is no text box under system > preferences > appearance > fonts
[04:33] <Loshki> ubuntu_n00b: your computer is probably the single most complex thing you own. Little wonder it's always broken. It's a miracle it ever works, frankly....
[04:34] <sacarlson> Nic_:  yes internet will also work if you use dhcp
[04:34] <fixermark> ubuntu_n00b: What is at the bottom, under the "Preview:" label?
[04:34] <Nic_> Ok, I am online
[04:34] <PrincepsRegulus> I'm having trouble getting ubuntu to start, could anyone help?
[04:34] <Nic_> Let me pastebin those for you
[04:34] <Sunderphon> I don't have a "Network" option under places, how do I add it to that menu?
[04:34] <TiK> PrincepsRegulus: http://catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[04:35] <PrincepsRegulus> thanks
[04:35] <ubuntu_n00b> there is no "preview". just "rendering"...
[04:35] <ubuntu_n00b> oh.. you have to click on the font... ok
[04:35] <Nic_> sacarlson: I am starting with the syslog
[04:35] <fixermark> Oh, yes, sorry. Left that step out.
[04:35] <sacarlson> Nic_:  ok
[04:35] <ubuntu_n00b> typing m in the sans font shows nothing in the box
[04:35] <fixermark> While we're on the subject though, what is selected for your Application font?
[04:35] <ubuntu_n00b> all other characters work fine
[04:36] <PrincepsRegulus> Sorry, I'll rephrase that
[04:36] <ubuntu_n00b> application font is "Sans"
[04:36] <Nic_> sacarlson: pastebin.com/vWaj4QLS
[04:36] <ubuntu_n00b> m works fine in sans bold
[04:36] <Nic_> That is the syslog
[04:36] <fixermark> Okay. Check another font as well. Non-sans.
[04:36] <ubuntu_n00b> also works fine in monospace
[04:36] <fixermark> How about Serif?
[04:36] <Milez> hi
[04:36] <sacarlson> Nic_:  in the future please add http:// stuf so I can just click it
[04:36] <ubuntu_n00b> serif works fine...
[04:37] <PrincepsRegulus> After looking around a bit for a solution, I keep getting a black screen when I try to boot. Many people have the same issue, but mine doesn't make the drum sound and doesn't respond to anything I do save turning off the computer.
[04:37] <Nic_> Oh, alright, sorry about that, I had to type it in from my laptop
[04:37] <Sunderphon> I lack a "Network" option under "places". I've searched for a while for answers on how to add this but searching "add network to places menu ubuntu" doesn't bring anything helpful. If I can't find the network places area without the places menu, how am I supposed to add it?
[04:37] <ubuntu_n00b> so far only seeing the issue on the sans font.
[04:37] <Nic_> Ok, here is the xorg
[04:37] <fixermark> Okay. So you now have a workaround; choose another font. ;)
[04:37] <PrincepsRegulus> is that less stupid?
[04:37] <Nic_> sacarlson: http://pastebin.com/gDSqeX9t
[04:37] <fixermark> And you've got the problem isolated to your Sans font. You can reinstall that at your leisure. No, I don't know what package that is. But the internet does, I"m sure.
[04:37] <Nic_> There is both of them
[04:38] <ubuntu_n00b> hmm... I guess I could live with the seriff font, but sans might be used by something even though seriff is default now... does anyone know how to reinstall just the "Sans" font?
[04:38] <PrincepsRegulus> tik?
[04:38] <unogame> i'm trying to set up an ldap server with ubuntu 10.04 and my domain contains three parts dc=cs,dc=lab,dc=com but is there any reason why cs why cause some comflicts?
[04:38] <prince_jammys> .msg
[04:38] <TiK> PrincepsRegulus: sounds like your video drivers .. dunno why you don't head drums you should hit alt control f2
[04:39] <PrincepsRegulus> Alright, thanks
[04:39] <ubuntu_n00b> ... wtf it's only the "Sans" font, at size 10.
[04:39] <Nic_> sacarlson?
[04:39] <ubuntu_n00b> size 11 works fine
[04:39] <Sunderphon> Can someone help me add Network to my places menu?
[04:39] <ubuntu_n00b> that makes no sense at all
[04:39] <sacarlson> Nic_:  what you think I am a speed reader
[04:39] <Nic_> sacarlson: Sorry :(
[04:39] <sacarlson> Nic_:  I don't see any major problems
[04:39] <TiK> PrincepsRegulus: if that works its your video drivers... there is something you can add at boot but I don't know what it is
[04:40] <prince_jammys> ubuntu_n00b: i'm guessing the package ttf-dejavu, though it'd be surprised if that's the problem.
[04:40] <Sunderphon> Can someone help me add Network to my places menu or should I go to bed and hope for a reply tomorrow
[04:40] <TiK> Sunderphon: you've beenasking the same question forever.. hold on
[04:40] <Nic_> sacarlson: You don't?
[04:40] <TiK> Sunderphon: ill check right now
[04:40] <WinstonSmith> !ask | Sunderphon
[04:40] <PeterFA> Anyone know how to fix choppy playback?
[04:40] <PeterFA> I get a bit of sound every 3/4 second.
[04:41] <Sunderphon> WinstonSmith: I *DID* ask my question, several times
[04:41] <WinstonSmith> Sunderphon, sry wrong factoid :(
[04:41] <Sunderphon> I've googled several different terms for it and nothing helpful came up
[04:41] <Sunderphon> For some reason there's never been a Network option under that menu and I've come to needing it recently
[04:42] <prince_jammys> Sunderphon: i'm guessing this has to do with editing a gconf entry.
[04:42] <Sunderphon> No, I've not touched anything
[04:42] <ubuntu_n00b> prince_jammys: it says ttf-dejavu is already installed...
[04:42] <sacarlson> Nic_: from what I see here the computer thinks it's in perfect health.  so the problem must only be in the display
[04:42] <Sunderphon> Well, I installed xubuntu-desktop and xfce
[04:42] <WinstonSmith> !ping
[04:42] <TiK> Sunderphon: i dunno man
[04:43] <Sunderphon> that may have caused it to disappear
[04:43] <Nic_> sacarlson: So what should I do?
[04:43] <TiK> PrincepsRegulus: any luck?
[04:43] <fixermark> ubuntu_n00b: You may also want to gifve your /etc/fonts/fonts.conf file a poke... See if anything in there makes no sense.
[04:43] <sacarlson> Nic_: like you said the screen goes blank.  I also see this must be an apple?
[04:43] <PrincepsRegulus> sorry, tik, alt-ctrl-f1 or alt-ctrl-f2? I want to make sure before I restart my comp, because everyone else says to try f2 and that didnt do anything
[04:43] <fixermark> ... or if you have a ~/.fonts.conf file that could be interfering.
[04:43] <PrincepsRegulus> *to try f1
[04:43] <Nic_> sacarlson: Huh, nope, this was a windows 7
[04:43] <PrincepsRegulus> sorry XD
[04:44] <MTecknology> Any ideas why I'm not able to install gnash? http://dpaste.com/234671/
[04:44] <Lucks> hello all
[04:45] <sacarlson> Nic_: I guess it has an intel graphic card from seeing i965_dri.so
[04:45] <Nic_> sacarlson: Seems that way...
[04:45] <TiK> MTecknology: no sorry but what does gnash do? Ive never heard of it
[04:45] <MTecknology> TiK: open source flash
[04:46] <sacarlson> Nic_:  we could try two things first we could try to force -vesa graphics some how  by adding line in grub2 boot or maybe by modify the xorg.conf
[04:46] <TiK> MTecknology: ooh i use flashplugin-nonfree
[04:46] <TiK> MTecknology: apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[04:46] <UnderSampled> ubuntu is stuck on 5 red dots while loading
[04:46] <MTecknology> TiK: I tried it and it doesn't suite me
[04:46] <Nic_> sacarlson: And what is the second option
[04:47] <WinstonSmith> goodby ppl cya :D
[04:47] <sacarlson> Nic_: I'm not sure but did you have the propriatary video drivers enabled?
[04:47] <UnderSampled> what do I do?
[04:47] <Nic_> I don't think so
[04:47] <Bridge|> hi all just upgraded to 10.01, prob ismy cpu may have turned off before the install completed cuz when I turned it back on after assuming it finished cuz it was off, the ubuntu 10.01 loading with dots appear and there now ubuntu graphic logo its just text then i hit a command promt promting me for user name and pass i login and just have a unix like interface its just one big terminal/console no GUI
[04:47] <TiK> MTecknology: have you tried sudo apt-get install mozilla-plugin-gnash ?
[04:47] <Bridge|> i just upgraded from 10.04 all was working fine
[04:47] <sacarlson> Nic_: the secound was the xorg.conf change
[04:47] <MTecknology> TiK: yup - and it pukes - which is why I tried the dpkg --configure
[04:47] <Nic_> sacarlson: Ohh
[04:47] <Nic_> Hmm
[04:48] <TiK> MTecknology: hm
[04:48] <WinstonSmith> !maverick | Bridge|
[04:48] <MTecknology> TiK: I just figure dpkg makes prettier output for seeking help :)
[04:48] <sacarlson> Nic_:  I haven't done this in some time so I'm not sure what things may have changed
[04:48] <Bridge|> kk
[04:48] <TiK> MTecknology: no it actually says nothing
[04:48] <johnnymozetti200> anyone having problems upgrading ubuntu 9.10 to 10.04 on striped array?
[04:48] <MTecknology> TiK: well. line 4 is the issue
[04:49] <Nic_> sacarlson: Do you want to give it a shot?
[04:49] <TiK> MTecknology: hold
[04:49] <Nic_> sacarlson: It is getting late... I am just afraid you might not be here in the morning or something
[04:49] <sacarlson> Nic_: it's your shot,  try the grub2 add -vesa to boot line
[04:49] <TiK> MTecknology: can you use www.pastebin.com it cuts off
[04:49] <Nic_> I don't know how to do that :\
[04:49] <itsux2bu> tasksel is cool..
[04:49] <TiK> http://www.pastebin.com
[04:50] <sacarlson> Nic_:  you seem to know how to get to the grub2 menu go to edit mode edit the linux line add the the end of it -vesa
[04:50] <TiK> MTecknology: brb
[04:50] <Nic_> I will try...
[04:51] <sacarlson> Nic_:  this may only effect the grub boot section I'm not sure.  if this fails then we need to boot the cd again and try modify the Xorg.conf
[04:52] <MTecknology> TiK: id doesn't cut off - it's 8 lines
[04:52] <UnderSampled> how do I get to a terminal when ubuntu hangs at the loading screen?
[04:53] <Nic_> sacarlson: I am in the boot menu, it says "press enter to boot the selected OS, 'e' to edit the commands before booting, or 'c' for a command line
[04:53] <sacarlson> Nic_:  well this is my morning so you might get someone else to help you in the moring
[04:53] <mtx_init> UnderSampled: boot into the recovery mode on your grub menu
[04:53] <sacarlson> Nic_:   select e
[04:53] <UnderSampled> mtx_init: I don't get a grub menu
[04:53] <UnderSampled> mtx_init: otherwise I would
[04:54] <sacarlson> nic_ arrow to the linux line  then not sure what to do to edit
[04:54] <Nic_> sacarlson: Alright, I pressed e, and I have a list of four options: the starting of which are 'uuid', 'kernel', 'initrd', and one just says 'quiet'
[04:54] <Bridge|> okay someone tell me how to atleast continue/resume a ubuntu upgrade from command line/terminal/console or will "sudo update-manager -d" resume it if it didnt finish?
[04:54] <mtx_init> UnderSampled: Sometimes Pressing F2 upon initial boot will put the user into the terminal.  But uive never actually seen that in Ubuntu, give it a try.
[04:54] <sacarlson> Nic_:  oh here is it the grub2 edit docs http://members.iinet.net/~herman546/p20/GRUB2%20Edit%20Mode.html
[04:55] <TiK> MTecknology: back
[04:55] <TiK> MTecknology: no 8 lines but look at the ending of those lines.. it cuts off
[04:56] <sacarlson> Nic_:  I guess it's the line with kernel then,  in this line it says linux vmlinuz should look like
[04:56] <MTecknology> TiK: you scrolled to the right?
[04:56] <Nic_> sacarlson: I don't totally follow you
[04:57] <Nic_> sacarlson: I can edit the kernel though, just add -vesa at the ending?
[04:57] <TiK> oh I wa tring to do it with my mouse.. now i feel stupid
[04:57] <sacarlson> Nic_:  add to that line that has the work vmlinux at the end -vesa  if you need info to edit look at the link above
[04:58] <Nic_> sacarlson: I dont see any that end with "vmlinux"
[04:58] <sacarlson> Nic_:  not end in vmlinux,  one that contains vmlinux... add to the end of that line -vesa
[04:59] <basncy> Excuse me,I make a C deamon Programe,and added it to /etc/rc.local  to run when the system start up,the question is that can the C deamon excute the C code like system("mv /file1 /file2")?
[04:59] <Nic_> sacarlson: I don't see 'vmlinux' anywhere...
[04:59] <TiK> MTecknology: just create the symlink yourself?
[04:59] <sacarlson> Nic_:  try the kernel line then
[04:59] <TiK> basncy: thats not C codethat is BASH sripting
[04:59] <sacarlson> nic_ did you look at the grub link above?
[05:00] <MTecknology> TiK: which would mean making that whole directory structure too
[05:00] <Nic_> sacarlson: Ok, I added -vesa, now just run that option?
[05:00] <Nic_> sacarlson: I did, I understand how to edit it though
[05:00] <sacarlson> Nic_:  seems by the link I sent you that I also have to read it says Press 'ctrl' + 'x' to boot
[05:01] <basncy> TiK, C code has the system function(man system) that can excute BASH scriping
[05:01] <UnderSampled> mtx_init: it seems to restart the load
[05:01] <Bridge|> anyone if i'm stuck in a non-gui ubuntu cuz of a ubuntu upgrade fail or to resume upgrade or atleast start it over
[05:01] <TiK> basncy: as long as it works when executed then yes
[05:01] <Nic_> sacarlson: I only had to press "b"
[05:01] <Nic_> sacarlson: But it is again stuck at the "Starting Up ..." screen
[05:01] <mtx_init> UnderSampled: Im not sure then, id just use a livecd and enable the time for grub2, so you can get into recovery.
[05:02] <sacarlson> Nic_:  maybe you run grub lagacy?
[05:02] <TiK> Nic_: take off quiet mode
[05:02] <FyreFoX> is there any benefit of turning on HT (hyper-threading) ?
[05:02] <Nic_> TiK: How do I do that? I did see "quiet" on the list
[05:02] <sacarlson> tiK nic_ good idea do that
[05:02] <UnderSampled> mtx_init: do you have any ideas why changing the xorg.conf would make ubuntu hang during boot?
[05:03] <mtx_init> FyreFoX: It depens on your hardware mostly, if you have a quadcore with HT, yeah turn it on.
[05:03] <TiK> Nic_: you have to hit e  something I forget and take out the -splash QUIET and then it will tell you where it's anging
[05:03] <TiK> hanging
[05:03] <Nic_> Just delete "quiet" from the kernel thing
[05:03] <Nic_> Ok
[05:03] <sacarlson> Nic_:  on that linux line there may be other setting including quiet take that out
[05:03] <Nic_> I am doing it now
[05:03] <basncy> Tik, thanx,and when the programe started by /etc/rc.local, does it run as root? and can do anything?
[05:03] <Nic_> Woah lotsa text, sacarlson TiK
[05:03] <TiK> basncy: yes it has superuser privlages
[05:04] <FyreFoX> mtx_init: I do, sinc HT came out and I found it was all fudge no real perf increase I've always just turned it off. Have things improved and its actually worthwhile ?
[05:04] <Jordan_U> Nic_: That's normal.
[05:04] <TiK> Nic_: yeah thats your system start..
[05:04] <basncy> TiK,ok,thanks a lot , i make a try.
[05:04] <UnderSampled> mtx_init: I gave it an invalid xorg.conf earlier and it worked fine. then I did what I thought would fix it, and now this
[05:04] <Nic_> Ok, the text stopped, it is no longer moving
[05:04] <mtx_init> FyreFoX: HT is just an enhancement in the cpu's pipeline.  Its possible dual core technology has made it irrelevant.  Im not certain.
[05:04] <TiK> Nic_: what does it say?
[05:05] <Jordan_U> Nic_: What is the last line on the screen?
[05:05] <Nic_> It says at the last entry "usb 1-6: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 3"
[05:05] <sacarlson> Nic_:  at what point is that like network?
[05:05] <TiK> Nic_: thats called a "crash" or a "hang" ;)
[05:05] <FyreFoX> mtx_init: k, thanks :)
[05:05] <Nic_> TiK: I don't like crash/hangs ;)
[05:05] <TiK> hehehe
[05:06] <sacarlson> Nic_:  what's pluged into all your usb plugs?
[05:06] <TiK> you got me man
[05:06] <Nic_> The USBs dont have anything in them
[05:06] <mtx_init> UnderSampled: Im not sure, I think the live CD is your best option.   Linux doesnt have a safemode like windows.
[05:06] <sacarlson> nic_ give it a bit more time it might time out at some point and we will see what it is
[05:07] <TiK> Nic_: you're best bet would be to post on the forums with make/model of you computer and that line
[05:07] <Nic_> :(
[05:07] <Jordan_U> UnderSampled: Hold shift during boot to get the grub menu.
[05:07] <Nic_> I really wanted to finish before I had to go to bed
[05:07] <UnderSampled> Jordan_U: ok
[05:07] <Nic_> I am really stressed out, this computer is my school and everything :\
[05:07] <TiK> Nic_: its worth the wait :O
[05:07] <Jordan_U> Nic_: What version of Ubuntu is installed?
[05:07] <TiK> o
[05:08] <Nic_> Since I can mount my Drive, would it make sense to just reinstall from the live cd or something?
[05:08] <sacarlson> Nic_:  well you have access to your work files so no big thing.  worst case move your personal file from /home/youaccount to a usb flash and reinstall you working 9.X disk
[05:09] <Nic_> My usb isn't that big :o
[05:09] <Jordan_U> Nic_: I wouldn't install 9.04 unless you absolutely have to. If you are going to re-install at least install 10.04.1
[05:09] <sacarlson> nic_ you will need to backup you /home dir before you install
[05:09] <sacarlson> Nic_:  you don't even have a usb mouse?
[05:09] <Nic_> Nope, its a laptop
[05:10] <sacarlson> nic_ so it's still stuck at that line never moved?
[05:10] <Nic_> sacarlson: yep
[05:10] <Jordan_U> Nic_: Do you think you could take a picture of the screen?
[05:11] <KE1HA> Nic what laptop make & model is it?
[05:11] <sacarlson> nic_ try the same take out quiet and add -vesa and try the oldist kernel
[05:11] <Nic_> Nope, my only camera is the one on my laptop
[05:11] <Nic_> sacarlson: I will give it a shot
[05:11] <unogame> hello I'm trying to set up an ldap server and my domain looks like this dc=cs,dc=mylab,dc=com but I get the following error after adding the frontend database ldap_add: Naming violation (64) additional info: value of single-valued naming attribute 'dc' conflicts with the value present in entry
[05:11] <Jordan_U> Nic_: What you want to add to the kernel parameters is "xforcevesa".
[05:12] <Nic_> Jordan_U: I will try
[05:12] <unogame> but whenever I don't have dc=cs I don't get any erros
[05:12] <Andrezao> Voltei
[05:12] <Andrezao> cai
[05:12] <UnderSampled> what should I do first to trouble shoot why ubuntu hangs on boot?
[05:12] <Nic_> Lotsa text again
[05:13] <Jordan_U> UnderSampled: Try booting the recovery mode entry.
[05:13] <fixermark> Found the solution to my issue. I had to unset /desktop/gnome/session/required_components/windowmanager to cause gnome-session to stop ignoring the $WINDOW_MANAGER environment variable.
[05:13] <UnderSampled> Jordan_U: I got that
[05:13] <sacarlson> Jordan_U: is this fixed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/285562
[05:13] <Nic_> Waiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit
[05:13] <UnderSampled> Jordan_U: and after that?
[05:13] <Nic_> I might be starting :o
[05:13] <Nic_> It is at the usual "Ubuntu Studio" startup screen
[05:13] <sacarlson> nic_ cool it timed out
[05:13] <Jordan_U> UnderSampled: It depends, what happened when you selected recovery mode?
[05:13] <sacarlson> nic_ you were just never patiant enuf to wait
[05:14] <UnderSampled> it worked as expected. I got the recovery list, and I selected netroot
[05:14] <Nic_> sacarlson: What?
[05:14] <Nic_> sacarlson: No, I followed Jordan_U's advice and restarted but changed the parameters a little :P
[05:14] <Nic_> It didn't time out :3
[05:14] <sacarlson> Nic_:  it could be something in fstab that will time out at some point at boot
[05:14] <sacarlson> nic_ did it boot?
[05:15] <Nic_> It is at the startup, and the computer is making noise
[05:15] <sacarlson> nic_ oh ok so the xforce works exelent
[05:15] <UnderSampled> Jordan_U: netroot seems to work fine
[05:15] <julius__> quien habla español
[05:15] <Jordan_U> Nic_: Ok, what graphics card do you have?
[05:15] <Jordan_U> !es | julius__
[05:16] <Milez> arg, can someone help me get alsa upgraded? I'm following this procedure to the letter, but cat /proc/asound/drivers still says 1.0.20 and aplay still says 1.0.20.  (  http://tinyurl.com/2u76gkl  )
[05:16] <Nic_> Jordan_U: Not sure
[05:16] <Nic_> It is still making noise, but the startup screen hasn't made any progress
[05:16] <unogame> does anybody have some sort of experience or knowledge with LDAP?
[05:16] <Nic_> It keeps making the same sound, like it is trying over and over the same thing
[05:17] <Jordan_U> UnderSampled: Remove any and all files you added to /usr/lib/X11/xorg.conf.d/ .
[05:17] <Jordan_U> Nic_: What is the output of "lspci | grep VGA"?
[05:18] <UnderSampled> Jordan_U: wouldn't a broken Xorg.conf act differently?
[05:18] <patriick> how to open up a port for transmission?
[05:18] <sacarlson> nic_: Jordan_U: I'm not sure it gets that far or maybe just not yet.  just a slow boot?
[05:18] <Jordan_U> UnderSampled: Differently than what?
[05:18] <UnderSampled> Jordan_U: than hanging on the boot screen
[05:18] <Nic_> sacarlson: Jordan_U It is still on startup
[05:18] <UnderSampled> usually (I thought) it hangs after boot
[05:18] <Nic_> It is not making any progress
[05:19] <UnderSampled> Jordan_U: or is it that I am in a virtual box, and graphics card errors act differently than on normal hardware?
[05:19] <sacarlson> nic_ next time if we have to boot the cd live.  you should capture that info on lspic and lshw for these guys
[05:19] <JohnRobert> what would be the best way to synchronise a music library between my laptop and my pc.. don't want to use a network share as often the laptop isn't in my house with the pc
[05:19] <UnderSampled> Jordan_U: also, this happened after I added an actaul /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[05:19] <Jordan_U> Nic_: Ok, reboot using the instructions ubottu is about to give you then run "lspci | grep VGA" from the LiveCD.
[05:19] <JohnRobert> I'm thinking maybe subversion.. but is there a better way?
[05:19] <Jordan_U> !sysrq | Nic_
[05:19] <mneptok> JohnRobert: rsync
[05:20] <JohnRobert> mneptok: what about if I rename directories etc..
[05:20] <JohnRobert> hmmm
[05:20] <mneptok> JohnRobert: what do you mean exactly?
[05:21] <JohnRobert> well, actually what if I delete a directory on the pc, but then run rsync on the laptop that directory will end up being put back
[05:21] <JohnRobert> and so on..
[05:21] <Jordan_U> UnderSampled: How X acts when presented with an incorrect Xorg.conf depends on how exactly it's broken. Remove the Xorg.conf entirely to get back to the default configuration.
[05:21] <JohnRobert> I basically need rsync to work like dropbox
[05:21] <mneptok> JohnRobert: no. it will then be deleted on the laptop.
[05:21] <Nic_> That worked :o
[05:21] <Nic_> Anyways I am booting from liveCD now
[05:21] <UnderSampled> Jordan_U: ok, but then I wouldn't have gotten closer to my goal of editing the .conf
[05:22] <Jordan_U> UnderSampled: What are you trying to edit specifically and why?
[05:22] <sacarlson> nic_ jordan_U: wow this looks cool you should try that r e i s u b thing.  I never seen it before
[05:22] <PeterFA> Anyone know how to get sound working with ICH10?
[05:22] <PeterFA> I had it kind of working, it was very very choppy.
[05:22] <Nic_> sacarlson: IT WORKS :O
[05:23] <TiK> PeterFA: if you post an alsa bug they usually get back to you
[05:23] <sacarlson> Nic_:  what the key sequece?
[05:23] <Nic_> Kinda freaky, but yeah, it worked instantly
[05:23] <TiK> PeterFA: quickly
[05:23] <PeterFA> TiK, well, I'm not there yet.
[05:23] <PeterFA> I need to get started troubleshooting this but I'm not good at ALSA stuff.
[05:23] <itsux2bu> is there anything in 32-bit ubuntu server that captures screen output during boot up?  i see a red dot but screen clears too quickly to see text next to it..
[05:24] <Nic_> sacarlson: Exactly what the bot said
[05:24] <sacarlson> Nic_:  so at what state is it in now grapic or console
[05:24] <TiK> PeterFA: "ubuntu-bug" ut I can try to help you out too
[05:24] <PeterFA> TiK, what's "ubuntu-bug"
[05:24] <TiK> PeterFA: in the console type aplay -l
[05:24] <TiK> PeterFA: type it in console
[05:24] <Nic_> sacarlson: It is starting from the LiveCD right now
[05:24] <tazmania> I have ubuntu-netbook installed via wubi and would like to install ncurses.  I tried sudo apt-get install ncurses but it said Package ncurses is not available... What do I need to install ncurses?
[05:24] <Nic_> Like I was told to :P
[05:25] <Nic_> Ok, I am in the liveCD, what did you guys want again?
[05:25] <Nic_> Something about "lspci | grep VGA"
[05:25] <sacarlson> nic_ oh I thought that key sequence was going to get control of something so all it does is reboot?
[05:25] <TiK> Nic_: it boots a like cd but not an installed ubuntu?
[05:25] <PeterFA> card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: STAC92xx Analog [STAC92xx Analog]; and card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 1: STAC92xx Digital [STAC92xx Digital], tik
[05:25] <Nic_> Yep, even when it is frozen
[05:25] <TiK> PeterFA: 1 sec
[05:26] <Andorin> So it appears that sometimes, when I boot my Lucid box, USB devices will not automount when plugged in... and other partitions on my HDD don't appear in the Places menu. Any reason for this?
[05:26] <Nic_> TiK: You told me to go into the live CD for some "lspci | grep VGA" thing
[05:26] <TiK> Nic_: no i didn't
[05:26] <sacarlson> nic_: yes and record that for future also.  pastbin it and bookmark it in your working system
[05:26] <Nic_> No, wait, that was Jordan_U
[05:27] <Nic_> Jordan_U: "<Jordan_U> Nic_: Ok, reboot using the instructions ubottu is about to give you then run "lspci | grep VGA" from the LiveCD."
[05:27] <patrrick> how do i open ports on xubuntu for transmission
[05:27] <Nic_> How do I run "lspci | grep VGA"
[05:27] <sacarlson> Nic_:  from a terminal
[05:27] <Jordan_U> !terminal | Nic_
[05:27] <Nic_> Ok
[05:27] <ntiy> how can I (if I can at all) get full "remote desktop" with "ssh -X" ?
[05:27] <Nic_> I know how to use the terminal :P
[05:28] <ntiy> I thought : ssh -X ==> xterm ==> startx
[05:28] <Jordan_U> ntiy: gnome-session
[05:28] <itsux2bu> is there anything in 32-bit ubuntu server that captures screen output during boot up?  i see a red dot but screen clears too quickly to see text next to it..  or does ubuntu keep any boot logs?
[05:28] <Junior49MI> hello everyone - can some one help me with.... Kodak printer driver's? Or the lack there of?
[05:28] <TiK> PeterFA: http://www.frihost.com/forums/vt-69570.html
[05:29] <sacarlson> itsux2bu: some stuf at boot is saved to /var/log/syslog file
[05:29] <thune3> tazmania: you can run "apt-cache search --names-only ncurses" and see the available package names. i'm not sure what you want exactly
[05:29] <PeterFA> TiK, do you think I have a Sigmatel?
[05:29] <ntiy> what if there is gnome session started on remote machine already? will it work?
[05:29] <TiK> PeterFA: you have the  STAC92xx audio chipset
[05:29] <tazmania> thune3: thanks I think I've got it - libncurses5-dev
[05:29] <Junior49MI> Kodak printer driver's anybody have any issues with printer drivers
[05:30] <KE1HA> tazmania:  yes, that's it, you need the -dev
[05:30] <Nic_> TiK: Jordan_U sacarlson: http://pastebin.com/k578AnVX
[05:30] <sacarlson> Nic_: I got it let me take a look
[05:31] <tazmania> I was trying to do "make menuconfig"
[05:31] <Junior49MI> nobody has any information on drivers' for Kodak printers
[05:31] <Jordan_U> Nic_: Is the text / Ubuntu logo at boot using the full resolution of your screen?
[05:31] <TiK> Nic_: doesnt help me any I don't t undestand why you can boot a livecd and not an ubutu install I don't think  it has anything to do with your video card
[05:31] <merma> until when will 9.04 be maintained?
[05:31] <KE1HA> tazmania:  just install build-essential should pull all the deps for you.
[05:31] <Nic_> On liveCd or normal?
[05:32] <Nic_> It was not using the full resolution, if I recall correctly
[05:32] <KE1HA> tazmania:  you'll nee the linunx-headers if you dont already have them installed: apt-get install linux-headers-$(unamr -r)
[05:32] <systm_> my mic doesn't seem to be working properly, i have a dv3-1075us, it have sound and everything working but it don't get mic in
[05:33] <KE1HA> $(uname -r)
[05:33] <Junior49MI> printer drivers? anybody have any info on Kodak printer drivers? I need help please
[05:33] <TiK> systm_: you will prob have to change your modem in asla-base.conf or something type aplay -l
[05:33] <Nic_> :\
[05:33] <systm_> TiK, I was hoping that was fixed
[05:34] <TiK> systm_: dunno type ubuntu-bug and the pros will help you ;)
[05:34] <Junior49MI> printer drivers? anybody have any info on Kodak printer drivers? I need help please
[05:34] <sacarlson> Nic_:  well I googled it and I don't see anyone with big problems like you
[05:34] <TiK> sacarlson: i doubt it's his video card
[05:34] <Nic_> Is it possible to mount my drive, save my home folder, install ubuntu from the live CD and keep the home folder like it was?
[05:34] <TiK> seeing as though a livecd boots
[05:35] <Junior49MI> printer drivers? anybody have any info on Kodak printer drivers? I need help please
[05:35] <TiK> Nic_: yes
[05:35] <Nic_> It is?
[05:35] <TiK> Nic_: create a patition for /home
[05:35] <sacarlson> TiK: well it was booting before it was the upgrade that killed it.
[05:35] <Nic_> I don't have any backup Cd's so that would be nice
[05:35] <kreeper> how do i start up my computer to a login shell?
[05:35] <TiK> sacarlson: what upgrade?
[05:35] <Nic_> Honestly, I want to know if it is possible to try it with linux mint?
[05:35] <TiK> sacarlson: the kernel update?
[05:35] <Nic_> My friend uses mint, and I have always wanted to give a shot anyway
[05:36] <Junior49MI> printer drivers? anybody have any info on Kodak printer drivers? I need help please
[05:36] <Nic_> Dont call me a traitor :P
[05:36] <AndrewMC> !patience | Junior49MI
[05:36] <TiK> Nic: mint is nice
[05:36] <MIH1406> Hi, I have a problem using starting Ubuntu
[05:36] <Nic_> And I can still do the partition thing?
[05:36] <TiK> Nic: and the developer ikey is a cool guy
[05:36] <bazhang> Junior49MI, linuxprinting.org check there
[05:36] <Nic_> Make a partition for my home folder and then install mint like normal?
[05:36] <sacarlson> Nic_: TiK: I'm not sure just a standard update,  not sure what was changed but she has tried the older kernels and still fails to boot.  I'm not sure what was changed.
[05:37] <TiK> Nic: yes but make sure you dont format that partition
[05:37] <Nic_> I mean, I was going to try mint sooner or later anyway
[05:37] <Nic_> How would I make that partition?
[05:37] <Junior49MI> thank you bazhang and sorry for sounding so insistent. :-)
[05:37] <Nic_> I am gonna go to bed in a second, but I need ot know that much
[05:37] <bazhang> Junior49MI, welcome
[05:37] <TiK> Nic: gparted.. resize
[05:37] <Nic_> *to
[05:37] <MIH1406> I have restarted Ubuntu and I got a message from BusyBox
[05:38] <sacarlson> Nic_:  I'm not sure what mint is but you should at least backup your /home/account  to maybe a flash drive or something before you play with patitions
[05:38] <Nic_> Does the live CD come with gparted?
[05:38] <sacarlson> Nic_:  yes it does
[05:38] <TiK> sacarlson: mint is ubuntu with codec's allready installs and it looks like windows
[05:38] <AndrewMC> TiK: Nic_ if you plan to go from ubuntu to mint you will have to format that /home or else the menus and theme get really messed up
[05:39] <TiK> AndrewMC: not if yo just keep the needed files and don't copy everything
[05:39] <Nic_> All I want to do is save my music and such
[05:39] <Nic_> I dont want to keep everything
[05:39] <sacarlson> tik: well try the mint boot disk see if it boots first then I'm all for that,  but I would hate to see you loose your /home/dir
[05:39] <systm> TiK, how to i do ubuntu_bug
[05:39] <thune3> MIH1406: do you make any changes to your system before this  behavior appeared?
[05:39] <TiK> systm: jsut type ubuntu-bug n console
[05:40] <KE1HA> systm:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug/?no-redirect
[05:40] <KE1HA> :-)
[05:40] <TiK> KE1HA: ubuntu-bug is better ;)
[05:40] <MIH1406> thune3: No I have just started Ubuntu and Restarted it. Then I got this message.
[05:40] <KE1HA> Agreed :-)
[05:40] <Guest65561> ubuntu-bug n console
[05:40] <Nic_> Should I go to bed now and mess with gparted + Mint in the morning?
[05:41] <Junior49MI> has anyone else found Kodak absolutely useless when it comes to Linux, but will gladly sell you one of there printers, that you can't use on Linux. Sigh...LOL
[05:41] <sacarlson> nic_ oh music that might be big.  maybe too big for a flash disk.  just backup you home work and repartition you music files
[05:41] <TiK> Nic_: that is up too you :P
[05:41] <Guest65561> HERE IS NOON ,I AM IN CHINA
[05:41] <sacarlson> nic_: I'm always smarter in the morning
[05:41] <TiK> Nic_: yeah if you are moving to ubuntu you don't want to take the whole home dir with you
[05:41] <MIH1406> thune3: No I got "Error were found while checking the disk for drive /"
[05:42] <MIH1406> F to fix, I to Ignore S to skip or M to manual...
[05:42] <Nic_> sacarlson: backup home work?
[05:42] <MIH1406> I will try F to Fix
[05:42] <TiK> nic: er mint
[05:42] <TiK> night
[05:42] <Nic_> I don't have a flash drive or CDs to store my stuff on as backup, so partitions seem like my only option
[05:43] <sacarlson> nic_ you custom files your writing spreadsheets data files  whatever is not replaceable
[05:43] <MIH1406> Nic: Upload them to Internet
[05:44] <MIH1406> Nic_: Try Ubuntu One or any other free file hosting.
[05:44] <kalle_> howto setup mysql database ? mysql -u root gives ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[05:44] <Nic_> Where can I upload them?
[05:44] <Nic_> Ubuntu One?
[05:44] <Nic_> How much storage does that have?
[05:44] <sacarlson> nic_ MIH1406: there you go email them to yourself if they are important
[05:45] <Nic_> All I really need are my media files, I just want to bring them with me to Linux Mint
[05:45] <MIH1406> sacarlson: you are right
[05:45] <KE1HA> Nic_:  I think Ubuntu one basic account is 2MB but need to check.
[05:45] <Nic_> I dont have any CDs or something for backup
[05:45] <sacarlson> Nic_: well my email on yahoo has about 4gig I think but I don't think you want to use that much
[05:45] <MIH1406> are they very huge files?
[05:45] <Nic_> 2MB is not enough for all my music!
[05:45] <Nic_> I have A LOT of music, all in FLAC
[05:45] <Nic_> So, yeah, big size
[05:46] <xangua> KE1HA Nic: don't you mean 2GB ¿ :S
[05:46] <Nic_> Hmmm
[05:46] <KE1HA> Nic_:  Its 2GB, not 2MB, new it was 2 somthign :-)
[05:47] <Nic_> Still, 2GB is not enough, I think
[05:47] <Nic_> Let me check how big my music and video folders are
[05:47] <KE1HA> 50GB if ya do the Upgraded package.
[05:47] <xangua> Nic_: if you don't have cd's/dvd's or a flash memory go to buy them ;)
[05:47] <MIH1406> xangua: I agree
[05:48] <sacarlson> Nic_:  it would take way to long to send 2gig up to the internet.  like maybe 2 days?  but if you have time.
[05:48] <KE1HA> Nic_:  well, fer the price of a USB key, you can get a short term UB-One upgrade, then canx when your done using it.
[05:48] <kreeper> does anyone know how to load up a login shell without gui
[05:48] <Nic_> Woah, my music is AT LEAST 21 GB
[05:48] <tyler_d> I would like to have a click-through on my site for desktop support that notifies /connects me to their machines.... don't really know where to start asking so here I am?
[05:48] <administrator_> HOW BIGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
[05:49] <sacarlson> Nic_:  and it will also require the same to get them back.
[05:49] <kalle_> can i turn off joins in xchat ?
[05:49] <MIH1406> Nic_: do not try anything untill you backup them.
[05:49] <Nic_> How am I gonna back them up?????
[05:49] <sacarlson> Nic_: well that would take you about 40 days to move onto the internet if you had a place to put it there.
[05:49] <Jordan_U> Nic_: You can re-install without losing the files in /home, but you would need to be carefull and you really shouldn't have important files that aren't backed up in any situation.
[05:49] <kreeper> also how do i load a program from a shell?
[05:50] <Nic_> Do you think Partition is the best option, or backup, or what?? :(
[05:50] <KE1HA> kreeper:  what do you men by upload a login ?
[05:50] <itsux2bu> is there a key that pauses the screen during boot up?
[05:50] <cristian> hola
[05:50] <KE1HA> mean*
[05:50] <MIH1406> Nic_: Go buy flash memory!
[05:50] <Nic_> I dont have any money right now :(
[05:51] <Nic_> At least, not enough :\
[05:51] <kreeper> startup my computer in cli without gui
[05:51] <MIH1406> Nic_: do not try Mint now!
[05:51] <Nic_> What do I do!? :(
[05:51] <KE1HA> kreeper:  which version of UB do you ahve installed?
[05:52] <kreeper> 10.04 lts
[05:52] <logan_wolf> Nic_, try online backup
[05:52] <MIH1406> Nic_: Watch YouTube or Just Sleep
[05:52] <itsux2bu> kreeper, desjtop or server?
[05:52] <kreeper> desktop
[05:52] <itsux2bu> kreeper, desktop or server?
[05:52] <animeloe[net]> I'm having issues getting  a windows 7 to authenticate to a samba PDC
[05:52] <itsux2bu> ok
[05:53] <animeloe[net]> ubuntu 10.4.1 with samba+ldap
[05:53] <animeloe[net]> general authentication works fine
[05:53] <Loshki> Nic_: if you have access to a dvd burner, 21G should take up about a half dozen dvds...
[05:53] <itsux2bu> kreeper, you ever used the linux/ubuntu command line?
[05:53] <MIH1406> thune3: Yes I have just rememberd, I disabled Bluetooth
[05:53] <Nic_> It seems like what makes the most sense is to partition my home folder, install Mint, and then take what I want and put it into mint
[05:53] <Jordan_U> Nic_: I think the best option is to back up anything really important then go to sleep and decide what to do tomorrow (honestly). But know that you can re-install without repartitioning and without losing your files, you just have to use manual partitioning in the installer and be absolutely sure that the "format partition" box is *not* checked.
[05:54] <kreeper> itsux2bu: a little, i wanna be able to start up in it so i can get more used to it, i also have a few manuals on it.
[05:54] <thune3> MIH1406: how?
[05:54] <Nic_> Seems like I could do the same with mint, right? Mint is based on ubuntu
[05:54] <MIH1406> using a button on my laptop
[05:54] <Jordan_U> Nic_: I wouldn't install mint, simply because Ubuntu has better support (e.g. this channel).
[05:54] <itsux2bu> i just went through what your trying to do..
[05:55] <MIH1406> thune3: Thank you I started my Ubuntu now
[05:55] <feodor> I find it funny that ubuntu boots about ~45 seconds faster than my minimal gentoo box
[05:55] <Nic_> I think partition makes WAY more sense than a billion DVDs or paying for 50gbs of online storage
[05:55] <thune3> MIH1406: seriously?
[05:55] <Nic_> Jordan_U: Mint has an IRC too :3
[05:55] <kreeper> how did u do it?
[05:55] <Jordan_U> Nic_: Again, you don't need to repartition.
[05:55] <administrator_> 天哪，
[05:56] <MIH1406> thune3: Yes I got a message to fix the Error or to Ignore it I checked F to fix
[05:56] <MIH1406> thune3: Everything is fine now
[05:56] <sacarlson> Nic_: I found this people sound like same problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1470871
[05:56] <Nic_> Ok, so let me get this straight: Tommorow morning, I am gonna install mint, NOT format my existing partition, and then get everything I want onto the mint part?
[05:57] <Jordan_U> Nic_: Yes, but they don't have as many people available giving support (which is why we often see mint users try to ask for support here).
[05:57] <itsux2bu> kreeper, try..     sudo nano /etc/init/gdm.conf then look for Start and add  'never and ' inside the parens.
[05:57] <Nic_> Ehhh, I don't mind much, I rarely need support (this is my first time in this chat and I have used ubuntu for a while :P)
[05:58] <Jordan_U> Nic_: I would install Ubuntu using manual partitioning, choose the existing partition for "/", make sure it's not checked to be reformatted, and then you don't need to copy any files (they'll still be there). That is if you decide to re-install.
[05:58] <dmex> !chinese | administrator_
[05:58] <ruro> hey guys I'm trying to mount an SD card
[05:58] <Nic_> But that plan that I said before makes sense?
[05:58] <ruro> I know the SD card has some relation to /dev/bus/usb/001/013
[05:58] <itsux2bu> kreeper, without the '   '  single quotes
[05:58] <Nic_> I am definatley going to reinstall
[05:59] <Nic_> I dont want to try fixing that anymore, I needed a fresh start anyways
[05:59] <sacarlson> Nic_: as far as I know even if you don't reformat you will loose your /home/account unless you move it to another partition that you don't let the mint or other install touch
[05:59] <Nic_> And I have been wanting to try mint
[05:59] <Nic_> I see...
[05:59] <KE1HA> kreeper:  if you want to permanently boot to console mode, you can remove the gnome-desktop and GDM, that's puts you in console every boot.
[05:59] <kreeper> ok brb
[06:00] <wombatguy> I tried it but I don't think it adds much but it is a simpler beginning then ubuntu
[06:00] <Nic_> So, first I have to created a new partition with all my music, movies, etc, then install mint, then make everything one partition, right?
[06:00] <wombatguy> but if you are this far on ubuntu then you don't probably need it
[06:00] <sacarlson> Nic_:  I think that link above started to move into modiry the xorg.conf file that was my secound choice.
[06:00] <Jordan_U> sacarlson: No, that's not true if you use manual partitioning and don't select that the partition should be formatted.
[06:00] <kreeper> can i load up console after that?
[06:00] <itsux2bu> hey OPs, why can't the bot messages be sent in private to the person they are ment for, instead of cluttering the channel?
[06:00] <KE1HA> kreeper:  or alternatively, install VirtualBox, and build a command line only install.
[06:00] <kreeper> brb
[06:01] <sacarlson> Jordan_U: that's assuming there is another partition on the disk to install another system or resize and create another.
[06:01] <xangua> !hi > itsux2bu
[06:01] <Jordan_U> sacarlson: No, it's not.
[06:01] <Nic_> I just want to get a plan straight before going to bed!
[06:01] <itsux2bu> KE1HA, i have one each..  desktop vbox, server vbox
[06:01] <elitexray> Is there a business idiom generator on ubuntu software center?
[06:01] <makumba> Hi
[06:01] <Nic_> So, new partition, install mint, then fix, right?
[06:01] <Nic_> Would that actually work?
[06:02] <KE1HA> itsux2bu:  I've got buch of them as well LTSP's servers, all sorts.
[06:02] <Jordan_U> Nic_: That would work, but the new partition is unnecessary.
[06:02] <sacarlson> Jordan_U: ok cool, I'll try that in virtualbox and see.  as long as the user name you create at install maybe it would work.
[06:02] <Nic_> Jordan_U: It is?
[06:02] <Nic_> So, install Mint, when it gives me a choice of partion, I pick _________________________
[06:03] <Nic_> What is the blank?
[06:03] <Jordan_U> Nic_: I don't know Mint's installer :)
[06:03] <Nic_> Mint is very much like Ubuntu, Jordan_U
[06:03] <kreeper> itsux2bu:  add 'never and' where it says start up ( filesystem ?
[06:03] <Nic_> So what would you do in ubuntu in that case, then?
[06:04] <AndrewMC> Nic_: Yes
[06:04] <KE1HA> Just a thought, but you may want to select, install the side-by-side option.
[06:04] <itsux2bu> kreeper, i think so.. let me check my file.. hold..  brb
[06:04] <Jordan_U> Nic_: I know, and insturctions for one usually apply to the other. The problem comes when they don't :)
[06:04] <KE1HA> That, in theory, should give you a dual boot from mint, with Grub2 then installed on the mint partition.
[06:05] <Nic_> So, assuming I am installing ubuntu, and it gets to the part where I pick partitions, what do I chose?
[06:05] <Nic_> I know DONT format
[06:05] <Nic_> Side by side might work...
[06:05] <sacarlson> Jordan_U: nic_: so jordan_U what she asked is what would you try in Ubuntu to try to fix this?
[06:06] <Jordan_U> sacarlson: And I already told her that :)
[06:06] <Nic_> So I should dual boot it?
[06:06] <Nic_> And then after I have got my music onto the new install, I can reformat the old one?
[06:06] <Jordan_U> Nic_: Like I said before, you choose manual partitioning, select your current root partition to have the mount point "/" make sure that "format" is unchecked.
[06:07] <Nic_> Ahhh, so it would add a whole new directory to the existing partition...
[06:07] <Nic_> I see what you mean
[06:07] <Nic_> At least, I think :3
[06:08] <itsux2bu> kreeper, yes..
[06:08] <Jordan_U> Nic_: Not quite, it overwrites all system directories (i.e. everything but /home).
[06:08] <kreeper> ok thx brb
[06:08] <Nic_> How would it know to overwrite everything BUT home?
[06:09] <i_is_broke> how well does win 7 run under vbox?
[06:09] <ntiy> how do you connect to wireless from terminal?
[06:09] <Nic_> Ugh, I am gonna go to bed now, hopefully things will make more sense in the morning :3
[06:10] <Nic_> Goodnight :)
[06:10] <ntiy> how do you connect to wireless from the terminal (sorry pressed wrong key)
[06:10] <ntiy> ?
[06:10] <elitexray> Hi, my ubuntu just crashed again
[06:11] <ntiy> hi. sorry (
[06:11] <sacarlson> nic_ nite
[06:11] <elitexray> :(
[06:11] <elitexray> I want to know why my computer would do that
[06:12] <elitexray> my computer would freeze on this chatroom
[06:12] <elitexray> and i'd end up unplugging my laptop for a retard
[06:12] <BiL> Any one know how to setup multiple system (XP, Ubuntu)
[06:12] <elitexray> restart*
[06:12] <elitexray> AS
[06:12] <elitexray> d
[06:12] <elitexray> oops.
[06:13] <[Screamo]> Anyway to get 10.04s disk utility on 9.10?
[06:13] <itsux2bu> bil, have you looked into Virtualbox?
[06:13] <BiL> Not yet
[06:13] <dmex> !dualboot | BiL
[06:13] <BiL> Yes, dmex
[06:13] <BiL> Thx, ubottu
[06:13] <itsux2bu> bil, look into Virtualbox
[06:13] <KE1HA> BiL:  loads of people do, but like itsux2bu said, Vbox is a good option. Here's DB Link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[06:14] <kreeper> itsux2bu: it worked, thx, but i have one more question. how do i load cli programs in tty mde?
[06:14] <kreeper> ^mode
[06:14] <elitexray> Is there a ctrl alt delete function to cancel out a frozen program like you can on windows ?
[06:14] <itsux2bu> kreeper, i was just abou to tell you
[06:14] <dmex> !virtualbox | BiL
[06:14] <kreeper> ok
[06:14] <[Screamo]> elitexray, add "force quit" to panel
[06:14] <itsux2bu> kreeper, wait.. what the question?
[06:15] <KE1HA> elitexray:  in a console, pkill, kill, killall
[06:15] <kreeper> how do i load a program in cli
[06:15] <elitexray> What if my computer froze the panel as well?
[06:15] <elitexray> I had terminal on my panel but i couldn't open it since everything froze.
[06:15] <BiL> How to install a IRC client in ubuntu?
[06:15] <[Screamo]> hmm
[06:15] <dmex> !irc | BiL
[06:15] <elitexray> And it all happened when isuddenly hilighted a dialogue in this chatroom
[06:16] <[Screamo]> elitexray, does it ever unfreeze?
[06:16] <KE1HA> kreeper: upload a program, what are you trying to do in the command line?
[06:16] <elitexray> nope
[06:16] <itsux2bu> usually just type it with corrent parameters.. and press enter
[06:16] <kreeper> i didnt say upload i said load
[06:16] <elitexray> it stops frozen and i can type in this dialoge except cannot enter what I've typed
[06:16] <[Screamo]> hmm
[06:16] <[Screamo]> sounds like your window manager froze
[06:16] <itsux2bu> kreeper, example?
[06:16] <elitexray> i had to unplug my laptop .. yeah seems  like it
[06:17] <[Screamo]> well
[06:17] <elitexray> how do i prevent this from happening?
[06:17] <[Screamo]> dunno
[06:17] <kreeper> itsux2bu: so if its on cd rom then is it e:\setup.exe?
[06:17] <KE1HA> kreeper:  ok, well we need more details on what your trying to accomplish before we cna give you a good answer.
[06:17] <[Screamo]> you would have to troubleshoot it
[06:17] <dmex> [Screamo] Alt+F key to switch into a console?
[06:17] <itsux2bu> kreeper, oh  install programs
[06:17] <elitexray> thanks screamo
[06:17] <kreeper> itsux2bu: yes
[06:17] <[Screamo]> dmex, idr wich one :\
[06:18] <dmex> elitexray: your desktop still frozen?
[06:18] <[Screamo]> elitexray, install an ssh server on it and next time it freezes see if you can ssh into it
[06:18] <itsux2bu> kreeper, the usual method to install programs in ubuntu is a command called   apt-get
[06:18] <elitexray> no, I had to unplug my laptop
[06:19] <itsux2bu> kreeper, something like..  sudo apt-get install thegreatestprogramever
[06:19] <theadmin> Is this a proper command to make /opt/lampp/lampp run at start? "update-rc.d /opt/lampp/lampp start 99 1 2 3 4 5 . stop 01 0 6"
[06:19] <itsux2bu> kreeper, start with learning    man..
[06:19] <kreeper> yes but i'm trying to install win 95 along side ubuntu and i have the disk, but i have to be in cli for that.
[06:19] <elitexray> this has been happening to me for a while. So im wondering if anyone have had similar issues
[06:19] <itsux2bu> kreeper, as in man sudo
[06:20] <itsux2bu> kreeper, as in man man
[06:20] <Loshki> BiL: if you have firefox, you can install the chatzilla add-on. It's an irc client and it's pretty good for casual use...
[06:20] <itsux2bu> kreeper, as in man nano
[06:20] <itsux2bu> kreeper, etc
[06:20] <itsux2bu> kreeper, oh.. another OS..
[06:20] <kreeper> itsux2bu: yes but what man page would it be to access non ubuntu programs?
[06:20] <kreeper> yes
[06:21] <kalle_> howto setup my hostname ?
[06:21] <dmex> kreeper: win95, seriously?
[06:21] <elitexray> that's good information for windows user @ Loshki
[06:21] <itsux2bu> kreeper, thats a big can of worms..
[06:21] <theadmin> kalle_: echo "new hostname" > /etc/hostname
[06:21] <DGnome> Hi! Can the MOTD (at login) be disabled in ubuntu server, or atleast the part that checks for outdated packages?
[06:21] <itsux2bu> kreeper, yea.. why 95?
[06:21] <kreeper> lol yeah i've had alot of people ask that
[06:21] <kalle_> thanx
[06:21] <KE1HA> theadmin:  try: sudo update-rc.d /opt/lampp/lampp defaults
[06:21] <kreeper> i need it for certain windows files i have
[06:21] <itsux2bu> kreeper. only legal version of windows you got?
[06:22] <Loshki> elitexray: I use it on linux :-)
[06:22] <kalle_> so i just need a name ?
[06:22] <kreeper> yes
[06:22] <theadmin> KE1HA: defaults don't start it on  runlevel 1 which is weird
[06:22] <itsux2bu> kreeper, you got programs that only work on 95?
[06:22] <theadmin> KE1HA: But is the overall format fine? Or must the script be in /etc/init.d?
[06:22] <elitexray> so you chat directly on ff browser ?
[06:22] <elitexray> @Loshki
[06:22] <dougb_freebsd> thune3: ping
[06:22] <kalle_> mysql cant seem to connect to my hostname ?
[06:22] <KE1HA> theadmin:  true, most dont want services to start on -1, but 2 thru 6 are the same on UB.
[06:22] <theadmin> kalle_: After you're done you probably would have to reboot so it takes effect
[06:23] <kreeper> they work on 95 to xp but 95 is easer to get my hands on
[06:23] <theadmin> KE1HA: I see. But still. Can the script be anywhere or must it be /etc/init.d? The manpage is confusing
[06:23] <itsux2bu> kreeper, dude you need new programs.. or are these like old programs the company you work for won't update?
[06:23] <dmex> elitexray: to switch to console hold CTRL+Alt+F1
[06:23] <kalle_> mysql_install_db
[06:23] <kalle_> Neither host 'acer' nor 'localhost' could be looked up with
[06:23] <kalle_> /usr/bin/resolveip
[06:23] <kalle_> Please configure the 'hostname' command to return a correct
[06:23] <kalle_> hostname.
[06:23] <FloodBot3> kalle_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:23] <dmex> elitexray: to switch back use Ctrl+Alt+F7
[06:24] <dmex> elitexray: in console you can kill the problem process
[06:24] <mae_tae> hello people, how do i define in our DNS server (zone file) that google apps mail?
[06:24] <kreeper> no they're newer but newer windows cost money and i'm currently unemployed
[06:24] <Loshki> elitexray: I'm using it to type this. It opens a separate window for irc chat and it knows about the most popular servers and the defaults seem really reasonable. My 2nd choice for more serious irc-ing would be xchat...
[06:24] <KE1HA> theadmin:  Yeah, just point to where the script / service is that you want I would think. I always put them in init.d
[06:24] <itsux2bu> kreeper, i'd look into Virtualbox
[06:24] <theadmin> KE1HA: Well... When I will be back home, I'll try both variations
[06:24] <kreeper> sudo apt-get install virtualbox?
[06:24] <theadmin> kreeper: it is "virtualbox-ose"
[06:25] <theadmin> KE1HA: Thanks for the help
[06:25] <itsux2bu> kreeper, no.. it allows multiple OSes to run at the same time
[06:25] <KE1HA> theadmin: roger that, you can always remove it.
[06:25] <dmex> !virtualbox | kreeper
[06:25] <Zanzabar> sorry to interupt but has anyone developed robots for torcs racing simulator on ubuntu? I tried but I failed :( Thought that I could talk with someone and figure out what I was doing wrong
[06:26] <kreeper> ok i'll check it out, i g2g though but i'll bbl
[06:26] <kreeper> see u all later
[06:26] <graphitemaster> if i wanted to join ubuntu-dev to write applications to make the OS more user friendly, do i have to use gtk+ or can I use wxWidgets
[06:26] <kreeper> peace
[06:26] <dmex> Zanzabar: try the forum ;)
[06:26] <elitexray> I had to unplug my laptop again
[06:26] <itsux2bu> kreeper, what OS does your PC boot with now?
[06:26] <elitexray> @dmex
[06:26] <kreeper> ubuntu
[06:26] <graphitemaster> like what are the ruls of ubuntu dev period, am I allowed to use C++ or does it have to be C only?
[06:26] <elitexray> I did crtl alt f1  --- that took me to a black login screen
[06:27] <elitexray> i couldn't get out of it
[06:27] <elitexray> i feel like i got played
[06:27] <dmex> ..
[06:27] <kreeper> y?
[06:27] <dmex> you could have logged in?
[06:27] <elitexray> yeah
[06:27] <elitexray> i entered my pw
[06:27] <elitexray> and it wouldn't take me out
[06:27] <KE1HA> graphitemaster:  to my knowledge, there's C, C++, GTK Python and menay others, just depends on the app I think.
[06:27] <dmex> elitexray: take you out from where?
[06:28] <elitexray> to bring me back to here
[06:28] <KE1HA> many*
[06:28] <elitexray> It was stuck in a black vortex
[06:28] <kreeper> i'll bbl
[06:28] <graphitemaster> KE1HA, I was thinking like I would like to use wxWidgets, but idk..
[06:28] <Loshki> Zanzabar: I've never seen anyone talk about this here. Have you tried their torcs-user mailing list & boards?
[06:28] <itsux2bu> kreeper, i have the opposite.. my computer boots with Vista (called Host OS) and i installed in a Virtualbox virtual machine or guest OS Ubuntu
[06:28] <elitexray> oh wait
[06:28] <elitexray> i missed ctrl alt f7
[06:29] <KE1HA> You've could browes the ubuntu-dev wiki, or launchpad, and e-mail a few of them, they can answer much better than I can.
[06:29] <MatBoy> what is the way to upgrade my testserver to the testing branche ?
[06:30] <elitexray> thanks @ dmex, now i know the useful of that command
[06:30] <KE1HA> graphitemaster:  also, check in #ubuntu-devel   there's a few folks in there at the moment.
[06:30] <elitexray> It's like a full screen terminal
[06:31] <dmex> elitexray: yes, there are a few different 'virtual desktop' sessions you can use
[06:31] <elitexray> can you also give me the kill command as well?
[06:31] <elitexray> apt-get kill ?
[06:31] <elitexray> wait nm
[06:31] <elitexray> i know how to di t
[06:32] <elitexray> thanks again, that will be very useful in the future
[06:32] <dmex> elitexray: hold up
[06:33] <kalle_> is there a good detailed mysql info someplace ? it seems very hard to get working
[06:33] <dmex> !mysql | kalle_
[06:34] <elitexray> I actually think this ctrl alt f1 feature is neat. It makes me feel like a professional :)
[06:34] <graphitemaster> elitexray, try ctrl+alt f2
[06:34] <dhruvasagar> Hi, I am facing a weird problem in my ubuntu 10.04, on startup the windows borders are missing and windows come up at the left side corner only, I can't move, close, minimise or maximise them. The only fix I have found is every startup I go to System -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Visual Effects I select Extra and then it comes back to normalcy
[06:34] <graphitemaster> and then f3
[06:34] <graphitemaster> and f4
[06:34] <graphitemaster> multitasking....
[06:34] <kalle_> i said detailed, that info is useless, i also found a few 1000 others that get the same errors i get but no solve for them
[06:34] <FloodBot3> graphitemaster: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:34] <itsux2bu> kalle_, also  try   tasksel
[06:34] <graphitemaster> f7 exists you..
[06:34] <kalle_> hm tasksel ? what does that do ?
[06:34] <elitexray> what is the difference between f1 and f2?
[06:35] <elitexray> @dmex
[06:35] <phawx> I have a jailbroken 3gs running 4.0.1 fw.  Do i need to install anything from cydia to allow syncing with Banshee?
[06:35] <MatBoy> mhh, upgrading to meerkat doesn't seem easy
[06:35] <dmex> elitexray: different sessions
[06:35] <kalle_> and install the package again ?
[06:35] <dr_terrible> they open different ttys
[06:35] <dhruvasagar> anyone ?
[06:35] <Jordan_U> dhruvasagar: For some reason your window manager isn't starting, or is crashing, at login.
[06:35] <dhruvasagar> Jordan_U: which is the window manager, how do I check it ?
[06:36] <itsux2bu> kalle_, whats your problem?
[06:36] <dr_terrible> if you think ctrl alt Fx is something, try compiz with cube desktops :)
[06:36] <dhruvasagar> Jordan_U: at startup btw the Visual Effects go to 'None' automatically
[06:36] <dmex> elitexray: use the command top to list process info
[06:36] <kalle_> getting mysql to work and create a database
[06:36] <Loshki> kalle_: All I can suggest is to google 'mysql tutorial' --m there are tons of hits. Also try #mysql (569 users)
[06:36] <Jordan_U> dhruvasagar: When you have desktop effects selected the window manager is "compiz", when you have it set to none the window manager is "metacity".
[06:36] <kalle_> hm
[06:36] <elitexray> I'm not sure what that means @ dmex
[06:36] <kalle_> ok thanx
[06:37] <dhruvasagar> Jordan_U: I have compiz installed
[06:37] <itsux2bu> kalle_, you tried using   phpmyadmin  ?
[06:37] <dhruvasagar> Jordan_U: how do I check what's wrong with compiz ?
[06:37] <graphitemaster> elitexray, try pasting this :(){ :|:& };: into your console
[06:37] <Zanzabar> is anyone interested in Torcs Racing Simulator? I was looking to develop a robot and got lost in how to go about it. Just looking for some help & I have already tried all help I could find online.
[06:37] <Jordan_U> elitexray: DO not do gthat!
[06:37] <Jordan_U> !danger
[06:37] <elitexray> why
[06:37] <elitexray> what does it do
[06:37] <dmex> elitexray: typing 'top' into console will show the processes using the most
[06:37] <Jordan_U> !ops | graphitemaster
[06:37] <kalle_> no itsu, not sure what that does
[06:38] <jellow> kalle_: fork bomb
[06:38] <kalle_> im trying tasksel and lamp install now, hope it doesnt mess up apache and php
[06:38] <graphitemaster>  :(){ :|:& };: (is a perfectly safe command)
[06:38] <dmex> elitexray: no
[06:38] <Bouchi> does anyone knows how to compile ar9721.fw at backtrack ?
[06:38] <itsux2bu> kalle_, meet me in mysql
[06:38] <elitexray> I've typed top and I get a long list. However I cannot do anything about it
[06:38] <itsux2bu> #mysql
[06:39] <graphitemaster> sorry :/
[06:39] <elitexray>  :(){ :|:& }
[06:39] <kalle_>  #mysql :Cannot send to channel lol shy people
[06:39] <elitexray> what is that supposed to do when typed in terminal?
[06:39] <dr_terrible> err, could someone explain the thing with  :(){ :|:& } ?
[06:39] <graphitemaster> you need the ; and :
[06:39] <graphitemaster>  :(){ :|:& };:
[06:39] <graphitemaster> liek that, it's a fork bomb
[06:39] <rww> !danger
[06:39] <graphitemaster> to not run it
[06:39] <FloodBot3> graphitemaster: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:39] <dhruvasagar> Jordan_U: any tips ?
[06:40] <elitexray> would that destroy my pc?
[06:40] <bazhang> elitexray, lets move on dont run it
[06:40] <elitexray> ok
[06:40] <dr_terrible> fork bomb? as in, forks infinitely or what?
[06:40] <itsux2bu> kalle_  mysql won't let you talk?
[06:40] <kalle_> what does it do ? recursive delete every file ?
[06:40] <dr_terrible> [i feel like such a noob]
[06:40] <Jordan_U> dhruvasagar: What happens if you go back to none? Do your window borders go away again?
[06:40] <Loshki> kalle_: some groups require you to register with irc before you can join/talk....
[06:40] <kalle_> yes itsu
[06:40] <Loshki> !register | kalle
[06:41] <dhruvasagar> Jordan_U: nope
[06:41] <itsux2bu> kalle_, you have to register your nick with nicksrv
[06:41] <itsux2bu> kalle_, you have to register your nick with nickserv
[06:41] <dhruvasagar> Jordan_U: I think compiz is crashing or something in the startup as you said...should I reinstall it ?
[06:41] <kalle_> mysql is not off topic, its still part of ubuntu to my knowledge
[06:41] <kalle_> cars or girls might be offtopic tho
[06:42] <kalle_> unless theyre modules of ubuntu
[06:42] <jellow> unless they run ubuntu :P
[06:42] <itsux2bu> its a database application that runs on many platforms
[06:42] <kalle_> quite a car can run ubuntu fine
[06:42] <cxj1988> qiute
[06:42] <kalle_> thats a good idea actually hm
[06:42] <IdleOne> kalle_: now you are offtopic
[06:43] <elitexray> thanks dmex, I figured out how to kill program with top infor
[06:43] <dr_terrible> dhruvasagar: If compiz crashes, you should check out the Xorg log file. That'll give you some kind of error to google.
[06:43] <Flannel> kalle_, dr_terrible: Yeah, it spawns a bunch of processes that consome all of your memory.
[06:43] <dhruvasagar> dr_terrible: cool i'll do that
[06:44] <xue> why I don't have my tty terminal
[06:44] <kalle_> oh is that all, then i can just buy more memory ;=)
[06:44] <dr_terrible> Flannel: well, that's not such a dangerous thing, i was hoping it was some smartass way to do rm -rf / or something :)
[06:45] <xue> why I don't have my tty terminal
[06:45] <kalle_> would that be a spoon bomb ? hehe
[06:45] <Flannel> dr_terrible: Please don't say that command here :)  And no, it does, however mean you have to restart.
[06:45] <Jordan_U> dhruvasagar: Could you file a bug report with "ubuntu-bug compiz"?
[06:45] <dr_terrible> Flannel: hehe, ok, i see what you mean, i'll try and watch my spells here)
[06:45] <itsux2bu> remove all files recursively?
[06:46] <elitexray> is there a way to do irc in the kind of environment like in ctrl alt f1?
[06:46] <xue> why I don't have my tty terminal,when I pree ctrl+alt_F1,it didn't display anything.
[06:46] <dhruvasagar> Jordan_U: ok i'll check that
[06:46] <elitexray> meaning, completely dark screen with only letters
[06:46] <mneptok> elitexray: irssi
[06:46] <elitexray> nice :)
[06:46] <dhruvasagar> dr_terrible: I am not seeing any specific thing inside the xorg log file that catches my eye
[06:46] <xue> elitexray, without letters
[06:46] <Bouchi> damn to TP-link TL-WN721n !!!
[06:47] <dhruvasagar> Jordan_U: wow! I didn't know filing bugs was that easy
[06:47] <dr_terrible> dhruvasagar: hmm.... So it doesn't say anything using words 'error' or 'failed' or something like that?
[06:47] <elitexray> wow so on irssi, you're basically running commands for every detailed operation
[06:47] <mneptok> elitexray: http://mneptok.com/irssi.png  <--- like that you mean?
[06:47] <jellow> elitexray: there are serveral termianlbased irc progs , for instance i use irssi + screen
[06:47] <dhruvasagar> dr_terrible: there is only 1 line on which we have an error, I can't tell how old that is, no other fail in the file
[06:48] <elitexray> honestly, irssi looks really intimidating
[06:48] <dmex> !irssi | elitexray
[06:48] <kalle_> is there  a good gui irc ?
[06:48] <jellow> elitexray: look at weechat
[06:48] <dr_terrible> dhruvasagar: what does the error say?
[06:48] <dougb_freebsd> pidgin works well for me
[06:49] <well_laid_lawn> xcaht ftw!
[06:49] <dr_terrible> kalle_: there are two fairly good - Xchat and xchat-gnome. the latter is simpler, the former is geekier)
[06:49] <elitexray> is weechat another client for irc
[06:50] <dhruvasagar> dr_terrible: there is a line mentioninig Markers for errors, that's the only occurance, there are no other lines with the error marker
[06:50] <kalle_> im running xchat but it seems to miss some settings, i cant get it to stop spouting join/quits and cant setup all colors the way i want, only the main window
[06:50] <Guest24382> l
[06:51] <Bouchi> Dose compat-wireless-2010-08-26 has " tl-wn721n " " ar9721.fw" usb driver ?
[06:52] <KE1HA> kalle_:  right click on the channel, then select hide join/part messages.
[06:52] <dr_terrible> dhruvasagar: usually the problems come up around video card drivers - long ago, I've had my share of problems with ATI drivers.
[06:52] <dhruvasagar> dr_terrible: I have nvidia
[06:52] <md-llyr> kalle_: right-click on the channel name > settings > hide join/part msgs
[06:53] <dougb_freebsd> xchat has a learning curve in that the settings are not always where you think they should be.  Try clicking/double-clicking/right-clicking on stuff at random
[06:53] <kalle_> hehe ok
[06:53] <dr_terrible> dhruvasagar: hmmm.... Try to google the most meaningful piece of this error line, other than that, I have no ideas right now)
[06:53] <dougb_freebsd> but if you just want to chat, I still recommend pidgin
[06:53] <zongo_> Hi Guys,
[06:54] <dhruvasagar> dr_terrible: what error line, there is no error line, there is just a line which describes the markers for the lines :), if there was a error it would start with (EE), which is the marker, there is a line in the beginning which mentions this fact
[06:54] <kalle_> hm after i used tasksel to install lamp i get access denied when running mysql, is that an improvement ?
[06:54] <droid|droid> umm
[06:54] <droid|droid> ?
[06:55] <kalle_> atleast now theres only one error hehe
[06:55] <zongo_> when I watch a movie with movie player, my unit does not go to sleep. When I watch TV on the internet, my unit goes to sleep. Why is that ?
[06:55] <jellow> kalle_: you have to run mysql -u root -p
[06:55] <KE1HA> kalle_:  You still need to add a user and pw to mysql I think.
[06:55] <itsux2bu> kalle_, did you give it a a password? don't repeat it here
[06:55] <droid|droid> ...
[06:55] <dr_terrible> dhruvasagar: oh, gee, my bad) just looked into my log - yeah, the markers.
[06:56] <shubbar> i cannot copy any file to my Kindle from ubuntu, it immediately disconnects it when trying to transfer a file
[06:56] <kron|k> su mount -o, rw /system rm -rf /
[06:56] <Jordan_U> !danger
[06:56] <droid|droid> zongo_: because the movie player doesnt like you
[06:56] <kalle_> i did add a user mysql
[06:56] <kalle_> do i run -u as root ?
[06:56] <droid|droid> anyways it wont work since the first word is wrong
[06:56] <droid|droid> :P
[06:57] <rww> IdleOne: you missed a *
[06:57] <logan_wolf> zongo_, because when you are watching tv on internet the video is streamed and has nothing to do with computer running
[06:57] <droid|droid> sigh
[06:57] <IdleOne> thank you rww
[06:57] <droid|droid> why op and deop yourself
[06:57] <logan_wolf> zongo_, the process identifies it as a state of idleness
[06:57] <logan_wolf> and hence go to sleep
[06:57] <zongo_> ok, thanks logan_wolf
[06:57] <itsux2bu> mysql -u <mysqlusernamehere> -p  <enter> (will ask for password?
[06:58] <itsux2bu> *)
[06:58] <logan_wolf> zongo_, you can always get these answers by just googling it
[06:58] <Jordan_U> !google | logan_wolf
[06:59] <kalle_> hm lol now i get access denied using password yes
[06:59] <logan_wolf> ubottu, k my mistake
[06:59] <logan_wolf> :P
[06:59] <logan_wolf> ubottu,
[07:00] <zongo_> logan_wolf, Google I think is only useful when you understand how linux is working. Hence the fact that you explained me the iddle state eventhough I was watching TV on the internet
[07:00] <mih1406> Hi, I have created a Folder in my Home folder and called it Projects then I changed its icon. But I cannot see the icon in the Open Dialog for applications. The I con changed only in Nautilus
[07:00] <Jordan_U> zongo_: You might want to use the "inhibit" applet (right click the pannel at the top/bottom of the screen and select "Add to panel").
[07:01] <mae_tae> hello people, how do i define in our DNS server (zone file) that google apps mail?
[07:01] <logan_wolf> zongo_, you  are always welcome at irc with your issues
[07:01] <logan_wolf> :)
[07:01] <logan_wolf> These kind of answers helped me alot to learn
[07:01] <itsux2bu> kalle_, there is a "master" user in mysql called  root ..  during install it should have asked you to assign root a password.. do you remember doing that?
[07:01] <someeeeee> i have no cd how do i instakl
[07:01] <Jordan_U> !install | someeeeee
[07:02] <dougb_freebsd> mae_tae: what do you mean "that google apps mail?"
[07:02] <dougb_freebsd> mae_tae: in other words, what are you trying to do with this dns change?
[07:02] <droid|droid> ?
[07:02] <zongo_> thanks for your answers Guys. I will do my best  to find answers on Google next time. As I do understand that it can be frustrating for you guys.
[07:02] <mae_tae> dougb_freebsd, yes
[07:02] <kalle_> hm my brain is turning to mush , i might have, it seems every user including root and superuser is denyed to mysql no matter the setting
[07:03] <mae_tae> dougb_freebsd, define that mx as part of our DNS
[07:03] <dougb_freebsd> mae_tae: so you have your own domain, and you want the MX record for your domain to be the google mail server?
[07:04] <kalle_> hm it did work for root weird
[07:04] <dougb_freebsd> mae_tae: http://www.google.com/support/a/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=33352
[07:04] <mae_tae> dougb_freebsd, yes exactly, how do i define it there, actually we had already account on google mail but when you try to send email, mailer daemon will return an error cause of DNS
[07:05] <itsux2bu> kalle_, you ever used  mysql  before?
[07:05] <mae_tae> dougb_freebsd, thanks
[07:05] <dougb_freebsd> mae_tae: I assume you already know how to edit your domain's zone file?
[07:06] <kalle_> nope
[07:07] <mae_tae> dougb_freebsd, yeah i know a little, but dont know to define those, hehee
[07:07] <itsux2bu> kalle_, every line has to end with ; before you hit enter
[07:07] <kalle_> when i logged in as mysql user and typed mysql -u root -p i didnt get error
[07:07] <tjor> I am running 10.04 on a usb drive. I want to mount another casper-rw file that I have backed up on a different usb drive so i can copy some files from it. Can someone tell me how to mount it?
[07:07] <KE1HA> kalle_:  phpmyadmin is a nice tool to learn and mess about with myqsl.
[07:07] <dhruvasagar> Jordan_U: so I have now filed a bug...
[07:07] <itsux2bu> kalle_,  and to quit..  quit;    i believe
[07:07] <dougb_freebsd> mae_tae: the web page I pasted should tell you what you need to know
[07:08] <Divecks> Hey all, are there glaring bugs in the latest (update-manager -d) build of Maverick? I'm installing it on my laptop (nothing important, just got it yesterday :D) Thanks! :D
[07:08] <mae_tae> dougb_freebsd, 'ive been to that site already, but i dont understand, it seems it is using other application to define that MX
[07:08] <rww> Divecks: Maverick discussion and support is in #ubuntu+1
[07:08] <itsux2bu> kalle_, phpmyadmin is a easy frontend to manage mysql databases with
[07:09] <Divecks> rww, Yeah I know, was just wondering if anyone here was using the build. Thanks though.
[07:09] <dougb_freebsd> mae_tae: do you have a console for your DNS administration, or do you have to edit the zone file itself?
[07:09] <bazhang> Divecks, no, as this is not the proper channel to discuss it in.
[07:09] <kalle_> hm it says its an error in php syntax, but now i get the mysql prompt that looks like the guide i was reading , maybe try some of the things there again
[07:09] <kalle_> like creating databases
[07:10] <mae_tae> dougb_freebsd, i just encode it using nano
[07:10] <dougb_freebsd> I don't understand what that means
[07:10] <mae_tae> dougb_freebsd, i just encode it from the console
[07:10] <Rikkie> Hi, anyone here know anything bout gwibber?
[07:11] <mae_tae> dougb_freebsd, yes i edit the zone file
[07:11] <jellow> ls
[07:11] <dougb_freebsd> so you are editing the zone file with a tool? Like vi or emacs?
[07:11] <jellow> ruby -v
[07:11] <jellow> ls
[07:11] <jellow> cd src
[07:11] <itsux2bu> dougb_freebsd, nano is a command line based text editor
[07:11] <jellow> cd Belgicano inode33
[07:11] <jellow> ls
[07:11] <dougb_freebsd> ah, ok, thanks itsux2bu
[07:11] <jellow> cd ..
[07:11] <jellow> ls
[07:11] <FloodBot3> jellow: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:11] <bazhang> jellow, stop that
[07:11] <jellow> ./rub
[07:11] <jellow> ./rub-v
[07:11] <jellow> ruby
[07:12] <inode33> jellow: You're doing it wrong.
[07:12] <mih1406> How can I change folder's icon?
[07:12] <dougb_freebsd> mae_tae: are you using BIND?
[07:12] <mae_tae> dougb_freebsd, yes using nano
[07:12] <mae_tae> dougb_freebsd, yes im using bind9
[07:13] <KE1HA> mih1406:  right click on the folder, selsct properties, then click the icon on the properties box.
[07:13] <itsux2bu> kalle_, you do know you use phpmyadmin thru your browser?
[07:13] <kalle_> hm command not found
[07:14] <kalle_> but the create database said query ok
[07:14] <mih1406> KE1HA, I did that but the icon changed only in Nautilus main view. It is not change in bookmarks. (The folder is added in the bookmarks)
[07:15] <mae_tae> dougb_freebsd, DNS Error: Domain name not found <--- this is the error
[07:15] <KE1HA> mih1406:  ah, ok, that's a diffrent icon :-) I'll have to hunt for the bookmark icon.
[07:15] <mih1406> KE1HA, if i am in another applications and want to browse to that folder I see only the old icon.
[07:15] <josh_> HEY FAGGOTS<
[07:15] <mih1406> KE1HA, how?
[07:15] <KE1HA> mih1406:  I dont know right off, i've not chaged that before.
[07:16] <itsux2bu> kalle_, i had to do this to set up PHPMyAdmin under Apache.  include the following line in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf.   Include /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf    use nano.. like this..  sudo nano /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[07:16] <mih1406> KE1HA, also you will get the old icon if you browse using open dialog in firefox or any other application
[07:16] <dougb_freebsd> mae_tae: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/ij0igRb9
[07:17] <itsux2bu> kalle_, than run your browser  and enter  localhost/phpmyadmin    i believe
[07:17] <KE1HA> mih1406:  ok, I still dont know how to change that one, it may be a theme icon, not sure.
[07:17] <mae_tae> dougb_freebsd, thanks, ill try it
[07:17] <kalle_> oh it runs from the web-browser hm
[07:18] <itsux2bu> kalle_, phpmyadmin?
[07:19] <mae_tae> dougb_freebsd,  i used not define any domain name as like this    domain.com MX	1 	ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM.?
[07:19] <itsux2bu> well its near 2:30 am here.. time to sleep..
[07:19] <Rikkie> who has time to take a look at my gwibber error log? I don't understand what the problem is, but i won't start : http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/hfKh452a
[07:20] <kalle_> only 8.20 here too early for bed hehe
[07:20] <Rikkie> i=it
[07:20] <dougb_freebsd> mae_tae: that's hard to answer without seeing your zone file, you can pastebin that for me if you want to
[07:20] <mae_tae> k,
[07:20] <dougb_freebsd> if you put domain.com at the beginning of the line you have to put a dot at the end of the domain name
[07:20] <Jordan_U> dhruvasagar: What's the link to the bug? It should contain usefull logs.
[07:21] <itsux2bu> kalle_, norway?
[07:21] <dougb_freebsd> so:   domain.com. MX 1 ASPMX.L.GOOGLE.COM.
[07:21] <dhruvasagar> Jordan_U: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/625112
[07:21] <mae_tae> dougb_freebsd, will that OK, if i dont specify it there?
[07:21] <dougb_freebsd> mae_tae: I can't answer that without seeing how your zone file is organized, there is more than one way to do it
[07:22] <dougb_freebsd> basically, however the NS records for your domain name look, your MX records should look the same
[07:22] <kalle_> yeah , phpmyadmin runs a website with downloads and stuff ?
[07:22] <dougb_freebsd> put the MX records right below the NS records
[07:23] <kalle_> dont see any settings to change there ?
[07:23] <flowbee__> i cant hear any audio on my dvd playback in 10.04... help?
[07:23] <CaneToad> does anybody know why the ubuntu sort command returns rows not sorted in ascii order sometimes, while the solaris sort command works fine?  for example if you sort two lines without the quotation marks "./tabs-web" and "./tabs/src/conf" on ubuntu, you get "./tabs/src/conf" first, but on solaris you get the other one first??????????????????????????
[07:24] <dougb_freebsd> CaneToad: sounds like this could be a locale issue?
[07:25] <basncy> excuse me , when I run "sudo apt-get install somesoftware",it goes wrong,dpkg: warning: 'find' not found on PATH.
[07:25] <basncy> dpkg: 1 expected program(s) not found on PATH.
[07:25] <basncy> NB: root's PATH should usually contain /usr/local/sbin, /usr/sbin and /sbin.
[07:25] <basncy> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[07:25] <basncy>  how can I solve this problem?
[07:25] <FloodBot3> basncy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:25] <CaneToad> dougb_freebsd: thanks...could you possibly elaborate a little more?
[07:25] <mae_tae> k, for a while
[07:25] <mae_tae> dougb_freebsd, here's the link http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/t3KkpuHW
[07:25] <itsux2bu> CaneToad, locale.. country settings
[07:25] <mjwalker> hello
[07:25] <dougb_freebsd> CaneToad: for example, if I do this in a shell 'echo $LC_ALL' I get this: en_US.UTF-8
[07:26] <dougb_freebsd> try doing that in a shell on both systems and compare the result
[07:26] <mjwalker> is there any mail server which can be configured in ubuntu as in like Microsoft Exchange server
[07:26] <flowbee__> help i cant play dvds on ubuntu 10.04;  i just get video and no audio
[07:26] <kalle_> what is my Database tables Prefix name: ?
[07:26] <CaneToad> dougb_freebsd: on both systems LC_ALL is undefined
[07:26] <sacarlson> basncy: maybe look in synaptic and hit broken search
[07:27] <mae_tae> dougb_freebsd, thats how i define ---> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/t3KkpuHW
[07:27] <itsux2bu> mjwalker, you desktop or server version of ubuntu?
[07:27] <KE1HA> dougb_freebsd:  interesting, what version are you running?  I have en_US and en_US.UTF8 enable,s but that cmd returned zip.
[07:28] <Coded1> flowbee, how are your speakers set up? HDMI, digital jack(coax,optical) or 3.5 mm?
[07:28] <flowbee__> help my audio track on vlc is disabled
[07:28] <basncy> sacarlson, when i reboot my system,the run "sudo apt-get install xxx",this problem appears a gain.
[07:28] <CaneToad> dougb_freebsd: ubuntu lucid and Solaris 5.10
[07:28] <basncy> sacarlson, when i reboot my system,then run "sudo apt-get install xxx",this problem appears a gain.
[07:28] <CaneToad> dougb_freebsd: both systems are in Australia
[07:28] <sacarlson> basncy: yes I got that, can you run synaptic
[07:28] <dougb_freebsd> mae_tae: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/pNXfGz5u
[07:29] <mjwalker>  itsux2bu i use Deskyop version
[07:29] <vaibhav1> am installing gstramer-plugins-bad 0.10.19, after make it gives me error that cc1: warning: /usr/local/include/liboil-0.3: No such file or directory
[07:29] <vaibhav1> resample.c:30:27: error: liboil/liboil.h: No such file or directory, but my headers are in /usr/include/liboil-0.3/ and object files are in /usr/lib/ . How I can resolve this...
[07:29] <mjwalker> shall i use Server one
[07:29] <dougb_freebsd> KE1HA: I have newly installed ubunto 10.04
[07:29] <dougb_freebsd> err
[07:29] <dougb_freebsd> ubuntu
[07:29] <dougb_freebsd> whatever you call it :)
[07:29] <KE1HA> hmm interesting.
[07:29] <brother> I have accidentaly deleted the panel, how to get it back
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> mjwalker: if you need a system with a mouse pointer and gui apps, install the desktop system
[07:30] <dougb_freebsd> oh, wait .... I actually set LC_ALL in my .bashrc file
[07:30] <mae_tae> dougb_freebsd, so there is no need to define that domain, is that so?
[07:30] <Jordan_U> !resetpanel | brother
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> !panelreset | brother
[07:30] <dougb_freebsd> KE1HA: I forgot that I restored my home directory to this system :)
[07:30] <itsux2bu> mjwalker, to be honest i have never used any mail server on ubuntu..
[07:30] <dougb_freebsd> mae_tae: no ... just load it in like I pasted it, run named-checkzone, and you should be good to go
[07:31] <Coded1> i need a hand with boot loaders, I have a 16GB Flash drive partitioned into 2 8GB drives.  One partition I loaded multiple ISO's for booting using this guide/utility http://www.pendrivelinux.com/boot-multiple-iso-from-usb-multiboot-usb/
[07:31] <KE1HA> dougb_freebsd:  Ok, that would explain it then :-)
[07:31] <ActionParsnip> mjwalker: you can install server services like mail servers on the desktop system
[07:31] <KB1JWQ> mjwalker: Yes.  Postfix + Dovecot tend to make a decent email stack.
[07:31] <AegNuddel> Is there any good vocoder software for Ubuntu/Linux?
[07:31] <mae_tae>  dougb_freebsd, thanks
[07:31] <itsux2bu> mjwalker, but i was going to say..  if your using the server version of ubuntu.. try running  tasksel  at the command line.. it should give you a mail server option
[07:31] <basncy> sacarlson, synaptic goes will,by the way,another problem,the scim inputmethod cann't started.it says:Failed to load X11 FrontEnd module.
[07:31] <Coded1> I installed ubuntu on the other but unsure how to add the ubuntu partition to the grub4dos menu on the first partition
[07:32] <mjwalker> itsux2bu : yes sure
[07:32] <ActionParsnip> Coded1: there are guides how to make grub2 boot iso files
[07:32] <sacarlson> basncy: can you select customfilter>broken  in synaptic?  if you see broken stuf reinstall it and all it's dependencys
[07:33] <itsux2bu> mjwalker, but understand most *nix "servers" are command line driven..
[07:33] <basncy> sacarlson, I think there's something wrong with the PATH,when i run $PATH as root,it says:~# $PATH
[07:33] <basncy> -bash: /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games: No such file or directory
[07:33] <mjwalker> itsux2bu : what else i can do so
[07:33] <openros> i have a harddisk which i was using in a laptop with bios password. now if i use the same harddisk as external it is not recognized. lsusb shows it though
[07:33] <mjwalker>  itsux2bu do u have any other option
[07:33] <itsux2bu> mjwalker, that goes for   LAMP servers, OpenSSH servers, Samba servers.. ftp servers.. etc..
[07:34] <sacarlson> basncy: oh you not running xserver?  your at a console.  are you running a server or desktop install?
[07:34] <mjwalker> itsux2bu , but i want email server as in like Microsoft Exchange server
[07:34] <Aemaeth> hello everybody
[07:34] <itsux2bu> mjwalker, i can't speak for desktop apps
[07:34] <basncy> sacarlson, I'm running a desktop version
[07:35] <Coded1> openros, what does 'fdisk -l' give you?
[07:35] <ActionParsnip> Coded1: here is a grub.cfg to use parts from: http://www.panticz.de/MultiBootUSB
[07:35] <sacarlson> basncy: in graphic mode?  in an xserver?
[07:35] <Coded1> ActionParsnip, ty buddy
[07:35] <openros> Coded1: its not showing in fdisk
[07:35] <ActionParsnip> Coded1: not really ideal as new kernels in Ubuntu will destroy the changes you make
[07:35] <itsux2bu> mjwalker, you might find a GUI based mail server.. but finding one that emulates MS Exchange Server exactly is very doubtful
[07:35] <openros> Coded1, dmesg shows end_request: I/O error, dev sdb, sector 4096
[07:36] <Coded1> openros, try opening it in gparted and see what it shows
[07:36] <sacarlson> basncy: do you see a pritty picture in the background?
[07:36] <openros> Coded1, I tried that, gparted is not detecting it
[07:37] <basncy> sacarlson, before such this happen,i have made a C deamon Programe ,and added it's path into /etc/rc.local,then reboot,this problem appeared.and next I remove the programe path form /etc/rc.local,the problem also exist.
[07:37] <itsux2bu> a *nix Mail Server should involve the same concepts.. but may present it on the screen differently or use different terms..
[07:37] <Coded1> openros, do a paste bin of lsusb if you can id like to check it out
[07:37] <TELL0> I wanna replace gnome-panel with AWN, but keeping the shortcuts for Run Application (Alt+F2), gnome menu and Ctrl+Alt+Del
[07:37] <Coded1> just the section that deals with the device is good enough
[07:38] <basncy> sacarlson, yes,background runs will
[07:38] <Aemaeth> is there a program for emulating webcam? streaming video to webcam dev
[07:38] <basncy> sacarlson, yes,background runs well
[07:38] <ActionParsnip> Coded1: better use this. It uses grub2 properly. http://ansi.interblc.com/2010/02/06/howto-boot-iso-images-via-grub2-with-ubuntu/
[07:38] <itsux2bu> mjwalker, MS tends to sugar coat and sppon feed its users.. *nix you tend to have to get down to lots of details..
[07:39] <ActionParsnip> Coded1: changes in ubuntu will not kill the changes in grub.cfg as grub2 will know to readd the iso options :)
[07:39] <sacarlson> basncy: so synaptic dies before you can do anything?
[07:39] <itsux2bu> *spoon
[07:39] <mae_tae> dougb_freebsd, still no luck, i still receive mailer daemon
[07:39] <jellow> i just complied ruby from source , Where do i put the files now ?
[07:39] <Coded1> ActionParsnip, when I installed 10.04 on the stick the last option before it installed in Advanced, I unchecked "install boot loader" was worried it would overwrite the existing MBR/Loader
[07:39] <dougb_freebsd> mae_tae: I'm not sure what you mean
[07:39] <ActionParsnip> jellow: wherever: make install ,puts them. I suggest you use checkinstall to make a deb
[07:40] <openros> Coded1, lsusb output http://pastebin.com/ZeDGLXMZ
[07:40] <mae_tae> dougb_freebsd, when i send an email, i still receive mailer daemon, as if the message is not received on other end
[07:40] <ActionParsnip> Coded1: no problem, you can boot to livecd (or an existing ubuntu install) and install grub to the device
[07:40] <basncy> sacarlson, not synaptic,but also the command gcc ,find,etc  goes wrong,The program 'find' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:sudo ....
[07:41] <openros> Coded1, dmesg output http://pastebin.com/iVvTGhgf
[07:41] <dougb_freebsd> mae_tae: there are a whole list of steps you have to do after you successfully load the new zone :)
[07:41] <Coded1> openros, try lsusb -vv
[07:41] <Rikkie> who has time to take a look at my gwibber error log? I don't understand what the problem is, gwibber just won't start : http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/hfKh452a
[07:41] <sacarlson> basncy: yes synaptic requires supper user.  from term to run synaptic it's  sudo synaptic  form there go to customfilter>broken and fix it
[07:41] <jellow> ActionParsnip: checkinstall?
[07:41] <jellow> ls
[07:41] <Coded1> ActionParsnip, im one step ahead of you thanks again
[07:42] <ActionParsnip> jellow: yes. It makes deb files from compiled source
[07:42] <jellow> ls
[07:42] <ActionParsnip> Coded1: glad to help :)
[07:42] <Jordan_U> !gksudo | basncy sacarlson
[07:42] <bazhang> jellow, this is not the terminal
[07:42] <ActionParsnip> Rikkie: try the gwibber in the proposed repo. I've heard it fixes things. Or use the daily build ppa
[07:42] <jellow> bazhang: yes oddly my other screen keeps outputting to this one :P
[07:43] <dougb_freebsd> mae_tae: first confirm that the zone is correctly loaded in the authoritative master server, then confirm that it was propogated to the slaves, then make sure the resolving name server that your desktop client is using has the new information
[07:43] <itsux2bu> whats the k in gksudo?
[07:43] <sacarlson> basncy: in this case both work gksudo synaptic ...
[07:43] <ActionParsnip> itsux2bu: I believe its a shortened gtk, to gk
[07:44] <sacarlson> Jordan_U: oh and your probly correct because I don't need a password that's the only reason it works for me.
[07:44] <openros> Coded1, output for that specific device http://pastebin.com/muHZe4Zm
[07:44] <Coded1> openros, its giving a medium error" in dmesg, it seems that the way the drive is formatted is proprietary, you'll notice it is assigned to sdb so it means the drive has been initialized and identified as a block device
[07:45] <Rikkie> @ActionParsnip: will do, thanks for the advice
[07:45] <openros> Coded1, so what should i do try to mount it
[07:46] <Coded1> openros, you can use something along the lines of : head /dev/sdb | strings | less and see if you can find anything intresting
[07:46] <dhruvasagar> Jordan_U: any clue ?
[07:46] <mae_tae> dougb_freebsd, hehe, its not really easy for me, aaahhhh, hehe
[07:46] <Jordan_U> dhruvasagar: No, sorry.
[07:47] <dhruvasagar> Jordan_U: np
[07:47] <dhruvasagar> Jordan_U: in your opinion, will reinstalling compiz make any difference ?
[07:47] <basncy> sacarlson, no mater sudo nor gksudo synaptic ,neither say:dpkg: warning: 'find' not found on PATH.1 expected program(s) not found on PATH.NB: root's PATH should usually contain /usr/local/sbin, /usr/sbin and /sbin.
[07:47] <elitexray> how would i ever re-add chat/email icon to panel if i removed it?
[07:47] <openros> Coded1, head give me this errror head: error reading `/dev/sdb': Input/output error
[07:48] <Jordan_U> dhruvasagar: I wouldn't expect it to, but it can't hurt to try.
[07:48] <HeTaL> elitexray: right click, add to panel, and search for it.
[07:48] <elitexray> I did. it wasnt there
[07:48] <itsux2bu> ActionParsnip, thanks
[07:48] <Coded1> openros, did you try adding sudo?
[07:48] <HeTaL> Ok, one sec
[07:49] <openros> Coded1, yes
[07:49] <sacarlson> basncy: sounds like you some how corupted you libs or bin files.
[07:49] <openros> Coded1, mounting http://pastebin.com/Sx91fxzR
[07:50] <basncy> sacarlson, what does corupt mean?
[07:50] <Coded1> openros, what was the comand that gave u the error?
[07:50] <sacarlson> basncy: what if you from a term gksudo /usr/sbin/synaptic
[07:50] <openros> Coded1, $ sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb /media/hd-ntfs -o force
[07:51] <Coded1> openros, are you sure its ntfs?
[07:51] <Mrzombiemuffinab>  8-)
[07:51] <ActionParsnip> openros: you can't mount /dev/sdb its a disk, you can only mount partitions
[07:51] <HeTaL> elitexray: how about making a custom application launcher?
[07:51] <sacarlson> basncy: corrupted means you f**ked them up some how
[07:51] <Coded1> true
[07:51] <Mrzombiemuffinab> :{D
[07:51] <elitexray> I could if thats the only way
[07:51] <rww> sacarlson: watch your language, please
[07:51] <openros> Coded1, the harddisk har windows and linux installed... so some partitions ntfs, ext3 and swap
[07:51] <bazhang> Mrzombiemuffinab, support question?
[07:52] <sacarlson> rww: wow they can read between the lines now?
[07:52] <Mrzombiemuffinab> um nope :o
[07:52] <openros> ActionParsnip, partitions are not getting identified
[07:52] <phawx> im trying to format this 250gb hdd to fat32,  but the only option i see is FAT,  is that the correct one?
[07:52] <bazhang> Mrzombiemuffinab, then please keep smileys and such to #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:52] <ActionParsnip> openros: then restore from backup, or use foremost on the raw disk
[07:52] <itsux2bu> (_o_)
[07:52] <Mrzombiemuffinab> . . .
[07:52] <elitexray> but then it wouldn't be the same,since the original had Chat/email/notification -all in one.
[07:52] <elitexray> @hetal
[07:53] <Flannel> itsux2bu: Please refrain from that.
[07:53] <openros> ActionParsnip, meaning? I dont understand
[07:53] <HeTaL> elitexray: I don't know of any other way to do it. But you can check the settings of the application. You might find something there.
[07:53] <HeTaL> Sorry.
[07:53] <HeTaL> Maybe someone else knows how.
[07:53] <Aemaeth> in soviet operating system, process kills YOU
[07:53] <elitexray> Oh, don't worry about it!
[07:53] <Coded1> openros, this disk you are trying to mount has multiple partitions and none of them are identified ?
[07:53] <elitexray> not a big deal anyways
[07:54] <elitexray> thanks though
[07:54] <Mrzombiemuffinab> Does anyone know any good bands?
[07:54] <openros> Coded1,  yes none of them is identified.
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> openros: if the drive used to have 1 partition wusing 100% of available space you can use testdisk to define the partition and then fsck
[07:54] <Coded1> openros, are you sure your usb case is working properly?
[07:54] <basncy> sacarlson, gksudo /usr/sbin/synaptic and  gksudo synaptic both runs well,but when i install some software,it says:pkg: warning: 'find' not found on PATH. The Programe cannot find the "find " programe.
[07:54] <Coded1> openros, do you have another drive you can trow in to test it ?
[07:54] <bazhang> !ot | Mrzombiemuffinab
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> openros: foremost is a data recovery app for idiots who don't have good backups
[07:54] <Mrzombiemuffinab> . . .
[07:55] <openros> Coded1, I tested it with another dirve and it works fine
[07:55] <sacarlson> basncy: I never asked you to install anything with synaptic I told you to use customfilter>broken  to find the broken application so you can fix it.
[07:56] <xshyamx> hi, I have created a .desktop file (with +x permissions) and put it in /usr/share/applications but, still when I type the command in "run application" the icon does not show up
[07:56] <Coded1> ActionParsnip, he mentioned it was likely due to bios obsfucation doesn't seem likely but it should allow a raw read from /dev/
[07:56] <ActionParsnip> openros: use it on an unmounted disk or partition to possibly recover some, all, or zero data. You will need a partition mounted writable to spit the data onto. Its pretty handy
[07:56] <xshyamx> any ideas why?
[07:56] <openros> ActionParsnip, I had backup... I missed to copy a folder alone i want to recover that
[07:56] <sacarlson> basncy: maybe I'm on the wrong path
[07:56] <Coded1> openros, you mentioned something about bios why do you think that has anything to do with it?
[07:57] <basncy> sacarlson, oh
[07:57] <ActionParsnip> xshyamx: make a bash script in $PATH somewhere to run what you wish and how, then create a launcher using alacarte to run that script
[07:57] <openros> Coded1, 1 thought the bios password has something to do with harddisk protection, I think I was wrong.
[07:57] <xshyamx> ActionParsnip: my executable is in the $PATH and I'm getting command name completion but, the icon does not show up :(
[07:58] <openros> Coded1, the only difference between the two hard disk i have is one was with the laptop protected with Bios password
[07:58] <YNH> anyone know where I can find an debian installer for ubuntu?
[07:58] <ActionParsnip> xshyamx: do you mean in the alt+f2 dialogue?
[07:58] <xshyamx> ActionParsnip: If I paste the .desktop file on the desktop the icon is displayed correctly
[07:58] <ActionParsnip> YNH: how do you mean?
[07:58] <xshyamx> ActionParsnip: yes
[07:59] <umar> how can i make skype calls in ubuntu 10? i can hear the echo voice, but cannot hear my own recording.
[07:59] <umar> i want to make a copy of my boot loader, then install windows and then recover the boot loader, how can i do it?
[07:59] <sacarlson> umar: try http://skype.com
[07:59] <well_laid_lawn> !alternate | YNH
[08:00] <ActionParsnip> xshyamx: if you specify the full path to the image does it work? I suggest you use xpm format images too
[08:00] <YNH> ActionParsip: I installed debian and am not happy as I cannot find drivers for it and all I can find is a windows installer on the main site
[08:00] <wizzle> can i make auto mounting for my partition.
[08:00] <basncy> sacarlson, there's no broken software.
[08:00] <sacarlson> basncy: cool
[08:00] <ActionParsnip> xshyamx: you can use imagemagick to convert
[08:01] <umar> sacarlson, usually ubuntu docs for configuring sound/mike are better than the software u wanna run's docs
[08:01] <ActionParsnip> YNH: debian isn't supported here. Ask in #debian
[08:01] <basncy> sacarlson, and the problem still exist
[08:01] <xshyamx> ActionParsnip: I have an xpm image already...I have given the full path in the .desktop file...should I put it in /usr/share/icons also?
[08:01] <bazhang> YNH, debian installer is the alternate cd for ubuntu
[08:01] <umar> sacarlson, i tried them before for some other thing, they dint work
[08:02] <bazhang> YNH, ncurses base install only cd
[08:02] <wizzle> can i make auto mounting for my partition?
[08:02] <ActionParsnip> xshyamx: worth a try. You can then simply specify the icon name without extension or path :)
[08:02] <Ruthgard> !fstab | wizzle
[08:02] <sacarlson> basncy: I'm looking back at what you say the problem is
[08:02] <YNH> ActionParsnip: not looking for debian help, looking to upgrade to ubuntu
[08:02] <bazhang> YNH, the alternate is what you what
[08:02] <YNH> ty
[08:02] <bazhang> !alternate | YNH
[08:03] <xshyamx> ActionParsnip: thx...will try that out
[08:03] <sacarlson> basncy: is the only problem that the program "find" is missing from /bin?
[08:03] <Coded1> openros, was/is the drive possibly mechanicaly defective?
[08:03] <wizzle> !Partition
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> YNH: then download the ubuntu iso, wipe off debian and install ubuntu. Obviously make sure your backups are sufficiently up to date
[08:04] <sacarlson> bsncy:  what do we get with this command whereis find
[08:04] <KE1HA> !home > KE1HA
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> openros: the ultimate boot cd has the testing tools from the major drive manufacturers. You can test the drive at a low level with that
[08:04] <sanjoy> can any one help me to enjoy mp3 on ubuntu i cant listen any music
[08:05] <openros> Coded1, no such issues.
[08:05] <basncy> sacarlson, before such this problem happen,i made a C deamon Programe ,and added it's path into /etc/rc.local,then reboot,next,this problem appeared!then I remove the path from /etc/rc.local,then reboot,and the problem still exist.I think there's something wrong with the root's PATH
[08:05] <bazhang> sanjoy, install ubuntu-restricted-extras package
[08:05] <ActionParsnip> sanjoy: install ubuntu-restricted-extras vlc and gnome-mplayer and you will be able to play anything
[08:05] <sanjoy> from where
[08:05] <Coded1> openros, ya ActionParsnip has a good point it has special tests depending on the brand / Seagate, Maxtor ...
[08:05] <openros> ActionParsnip, thanks, let me try to put in the laptop and try booting it
[08:05] <sanjoy> i am new
[08:05] <openros> Coded1, mine is WD
[08:05] <ActionParsnip> sanjoy: use software centre
[08:06] <sacarlson> basncy: yes but I don't know what that did, and since you removed it why would it cause this problem?  what do we get with this command whereis find
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> sanjoy: if you add the medibuntu repo, you can install w32codecs as well
[08:06] <Coded1> openros, remember that and run the WD diagnostic
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> !medibuntu | sanjoy
[08:06] <Coded1> best way is flash drive if you have one handy
[08:06] <Coded1> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/boot-multiple-iso-from-usb-multiboot-usb/
[08:06] <openros> Coded1, thanks. I will do
[08:06] <Coded1> np
[08:06] <bazhang> sanjoy, open the synaptic package manager and install from there; you should have a read of the manual as well
[08:07] <bazhang> !manual | sanjoy
[08:07] <sacarlson> basncy:  and what about echo $PATH
[08:07] <sacarlson> basncy: you should see something like this /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
[08:08] <randerzander> Does Ubuntu's software RAID 1 support NTFS formatted drives?
[08:08] <basncy> sacarlson, cy@cy-laptop:~$ sudo -i
[08:08] <basncy> -bash: groups: command not found
[08:08] <basncy> root@cy-laptop:~# $PATH
[08:08] <basncy> -bash: /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games: No such file or directory
[08:08] <basncy> cy@cy-laptop:~$ sudo -i
[08:08] <FloodBot3> basncy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:08] <basncy> -bash: groups: command not found
[08:09] <sacarlson> basncy: in the future never just change a file copy it to file.org then modify it so you always keep a copy of what you changed in you system files to reference.
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> If you make a subfolder in one of the folders in $PATH will it be accessible? Does $PATH recurse through subfolders or does it only acknowledge the folders given and NOT the folder's subfolders?
[08:09] <itsux2bu> and if i want to add a folder called   /usr/scripts to $PATH ?
[08:09] <well_laid_lawn> ActionParsnip:   it is not recursive
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> well_laid_lawn: thanks, just curious :)
[08:10] <elitexray> what update would I need to install to view images on my evolution email?
[08:10] <ActionParsnip> itsux2bu: PATH=$PATH:/usr/scripts
[08:10] <administrator_>   
[08:10] <ActionParsnip> elitexray: you just need to tell the client to always download the images in emails
[08:10] <basncy> sacarlson, run $PATH as root ,is says:-bash: /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games: No such file or directory
[08:11] <administrator_> How can I use the "root"?
[08:11] <elitexray> Actionparship - is this done in terminal?
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> itsux2bu: put it at the bottom of $HOME/.bashrc ,and it will be permanent
[08:11] <mae_tae> dougb_freebsd, i had other concern regarding thin client, whats the cause of cannot bind to ipv4, address is in use, this is tftp error
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> administrator_: can you elaborate?
[08:11] <itsux2bu> ActionParsnip, thats the end..  and  PATH=/user/scripts:$PATH  to the begining?
[08:11] <basncy> sacarlson, run $PATH as normal user,it says:bash: /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games: No such file or directory
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> elitexray: yes
[08:11] <sacarlson> basncy: you can't run $PATH you need to use echo $PATH
[08:12] <ActionParsnip> itsux2bu: i'd put it at the end so that the main folders get checked first
[08:12] <sacarlson> basncy: to veiw bash envirment values we use the command echo
[08:13] <well_laid_lawn> sacarlson:  just $PATH works here
[08:13] <itsux2bu> is  env ised to view all enviroment vars?
[08:13] <basncy> sacarlson, thanks,and run "echo $PATH" as root ,it says:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
[08:13] <wocao> how to use repo in ubunu
[08:13] <ActionParsnip> elitexray: use tab to complete nicks too. Makes it accurate and is quicker ;)
[08:13] <sacarlson> basncy: in any case I still don't see the command results from whereis find
[08:13] <wocao> how to use repo in ubuntu
[08:14] <ActionParsnip> wocao: you already are to install and upgrade your software
[08:14] <elitexray> Actionparship -- i just figured it out. I only had to go to preference , html, then enable load image for all email.
[08:14] <elitexray> :)
[08:14] <sacarlson> well_laid_lawn: what shell is that? bash?
[08:14] <well_laid_lawn> sacarlson:  yep
[08:14] <KB1JWQ> administrator_: su -
[08:14] <ActionParsnip> wocao: don't repeat that fast, the same users saw both questions so achieves nothing
[08:14] <sacarlson> well_laid_lawn:  you don't notice at the end  such file or directory?
[08:15] <administrator_> ActionParsnip:some software can not run ,it need user root to run it (I AM CHINESE,I ONLY KNOW A FEW ENGLISH)
[08:15] <ActionParsnip> elitexray: its parsnip, the root vegetable. If you use tab you can type actio then press tab
[08:15] <well_laid_lawn> sacarlson:  for the games entry there is no such dir
[08:15] <phawx> no way to convert a filesystem without formatting right
[08:15] <well_laid_lawn> sacarlson:  is that what you meant?
[08:15] <ActionParsnip> administrator_: then put the word: gksudo ,at the start of the command
[08:16] <basncy> sacarlson, this is my command results:http://paste.ubuntu.com/484361/
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> phawx: depends what you are going from-to
[08:16] <sacarlson> well_laid_lawn:  no I mean it just give you an error because it tries to run $PATH so give you the error : No such file or directory
[08:16] <wocao> how to use repo in ubuntu ,which packages i should use
[08:16] <wocao> how to use repo in ubuntu ,which packages i should be installed
[08:17] <well_laid_lawn> sacarlson:  no - it lists all the relevant dirs as it always has
[08:17] <ActionParsnip> wocao: every time you use software centre and every time you upgrade your software you ARE using the repo
[08:17] <itsux2bu> sacarlson,  try   echo $PATH
[08:17] <ActionParsnip> wocao: and uit repeating so damn much
[08:17] <well_laid_lawn> sacarlson:  I've only ever used $PATh on it's own
[08:17] <basncy> sacarlson, and the echo $PATH   http://paste.ubuntu.com/484362/
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> wocao: where do you think the updates come from??
[08:18] <sacarlson> well_laid_lawn: itsux2bu:  that's what I'm tring to tell them they should use echo $PATH or echo $VALUEOFENVIRNMENT
[08:18] <administrator_> ActionParsinp: OK,then how can I open  dir root
[08:18] <well_laid_lawn> k
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> administrator_: gksudo nautilus
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> administrator_: you don't need root in ubuntu. You can use sudo and gksudo and do anything
[08:20] <ActionParsnip> administrator_: if you forget root exists you will be a whole lot better off
[08:20] <wocao> i don't want to upgrade  the system ,just want to know apt-get install what to install repo
[08:20] <ActionParsnip> wocao: that doesn't make sense
[08:20] <sacarlson> basncy: whereis find    that will tell you the path to find the program find  I don't see it in the pastebin
[08:21] <sacarlson> basncy: it must be confusing when we are trying to find find.
[08:21] <bazhang> !repos > wocao
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> wocao: if you want software you can search in software centre. Its the same as using apt-get but uses a GUI. Both install software from the Ubuntu repos
[08:22] <sacarlson> basncy: find is a program to search for files in directorys  try man find .  that apears to be missing
[08:22] <bazhang> !manual | wocao please have a read
[08:22] <administrator_> ActionParsnip:Good idea
[08:22] <ActionParsnip> wocao: do you mean ADD a repo (or PPA)??
[08:23] <basncy> sacarlson, man find runs well
[08:23] <itsux2bu> mom's favorite *nix comand is  man bash
[08:23] <well_laid_lawn> heh
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> itsux2bu: read: man woman ,always makes me laugh
[08:23] <sacarlson> basncy: and whereis find.   whereis is a program that tells us what path it will be looking to find a program or if it will find it.
[08:23] <wocao> i want to using the repo command
[08:24] <sacarlson> basncy: man whereis
[08:24] <bazhang> wocao, what is your native language? Chinese?
[08:24] <itsux2bu> ActionParsnip, no man page for woman
[08:24] <ActionParsnip> wocao: one doesn't exist. Why not try telling us what you want to do instead of using technical terms you only kinda understand. We'll get a goal faster
[08:24] <bazhang> wocao, there is no 'repo' command
[08:25] <ActionParsnip> itsux2bu: thought it was "no manual entry for woman"
[08:25] <basncy> sacarlson, man whereis runs well
[08:25] <itsux2bu> yea
[08:25] <dougb_freebsd> I'm reading this: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Linux+FreeBSD-3.html but I can't seem to find "the script that runs swapon" in the ubuntu /etc, is that mkswap thing still necessary for a linux swap partition?
[08:25] <sacarlson> basncy: and finnaly I hope we get what we might need the result of "whereis find"
[08:25] <ActionParsnip> itsux2bu: hehe
[08:25] <timewriter> hi
[08:25] <sacarlson> basncy: the man statments are meant to be read I hope you are reading them.
[08:26] <basncy> sacarlson, whereis find 's results:   find: /usr/share/man/man1/find.1.gz
[08:26] <sacarlson> basncy: then it's missing
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> wocao: with repos you can do 3 things; add a repo, remove a repo, install software from a repo. That's it
[08:26] <dougb_freebsd> basncy: is /usr/bin in your $PATH ?
[08:26] <timewriter> i have 2 hdds formatted as NTFS on 03:00.0 SATA controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88SE6145 SATA II PCI-E controller (rev a1)
[08:26] <sacarlson> basncy: you somehow don't have a path to the command find that is just the man page
[08:26] <wocao> my native language is japanese
[08:26] <timewriter> but i am not able to mount them
[08:26] <timewriter> any help ?
[08:26] <bazhang> !jp | wocao
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> timewriter: you mount partitions not drives
[08:27] <basncy> dougb_freebsd, yes,it is
[08:27] <timewriter> yes , partition
[08:27] <dougb_freebsd> basncy: then your find binary has gone missing
[08:27] <sacarlson> basncy: you should have seen : find: /usr/bin/find /usr/share/man/man1/find.1.gz
[08:27] <dougb_freebsd> that's bad
[08:27] <timewriter> i can see the partitions on the primary sata controller
[08:27] <basncy> sacarlson, but the  PATH include it,why?
[08:27] <timewriter> but not on the secondary
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> timewriter: http://www.google.com/m/url?client=ms-android-tmobile&ei=3Wh3TPDIIZm9jAeO-5m4Ag&gl=gb&hl=en&q=http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountwindows&source=android-browser-key&ved=0CBAQFjAA&usg=AFQjCNEUbkcsl7pDO-W7vXlQXh4wUqKJxA
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> Sorry. Stupid phone browser
[08:28] <timewriter> ;:)
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> Top link
[08:28] <sacarlson> basncy: I don't know cd /usr/bin;ls find*
[08:28] <timewriter> i was asking myself why :))
[08:28] <willy_> hey
[08:28] <o2oo> hi
[08:28] <basncy> dougb_freebsd, yes,there 's no find binary in /usr/bin
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> timewriter: the psychocats link is great
[08:29] <timewriter> ActionParsnip , i believe , but can you give the url again ?
[08:29] <sacarlson> basncy: something you did must have deleted it or renamed it or???
[08:29] <dougb_freebsd> basncy: ok, time to back up your data and reinstall  :)
[08:29] <basncy> sacarlson, result:  find2perl
[08:29] <MatHatter> Hi all,
[08:29] <basncy> dougb_freebsd, only to reinstall system?
[08:29] <Jordan_U> basncy: Did you for some reason have /usr on a separate partition at one point?
[08:30] <dougb_freebsd> ... there are other alternatives, but if your find binary has gone missing it's overwhelmingly likely that you've stuffed up a bunch of other stuff too
[08:30] <sacarlson> basncy: wow you missing more stuf then I see find  find2perl  findaffix  findsmb
[08:30] <jenda> I'm still trying to figure this out, so I'll try my luck here again - anyone know how to (if possible) synchronize mail, events and tasks from thunderbird to a smartphone and/or which smartphone is well suited for the job? I need to sync tasks too, so syncing through Google calendar isn't an option.
[08:30] <wocao> repo init -u
[08:30] <basncy> Jordan_U, Three partitions,one for / ,one for /home ,and one for swap
[08:30] <timewriter> i might keep Ubuntu as the main Os
[08:30] <wocao> no body answer me
[08:30] <timewriter> i managed to install mac os on a virtual machin
[08:31] <bazhang> wocao, that's not a meaninful command
[08:31] <MatHatter> I have a recuring trouble with the system going bakc to read-only file system every once in a while (each time I copy a file).  I look on the web a lot and didn't  found an answer.  Could anyone help me?
[08:31] <basncy> sacarlson, what a bad thing.reinstall my sytem.....
[08:31] <bazhang> wocao, are you using Ubuntu?
[08:31] <bint> so anyone can give me a hint how to set-up ubuntu-server with a proper GUI (desktop enviroment)
[08:31] <sacarlson> basncy: I'm quite sure that's what you will have to do unless you have a backup
[08:32] <Milez> install server and then install the x packages
[08:32] <bazhang> bint, just install ubuntu-desktop on it or other -desktop package
[08:32] <Milez> use a "how to install x" guide
[08:32] <dougb_freebsd> basncy: someone else here may be able to give you a better answer, but chances are you are so far gone at this point that back up data, wipe disk, reinstall is going to get you a better result in less time
[08:32] <bint> bazhang so now i'm on the shell
[08:32] <bint> whats the command?
[08:32] <bint> get -desktop :D?
[08:33] <bint> i have no idea
[08:33] <sacarlson> basncy: another think you should think about in the future is experiments like what you do should be in virtualbox.  when you get it working there then move it to real world if at all posible
[08:33] <timewriter> bint , install server , then install xserver-xorg , then ubuntu-desktop
[08:33] <bint> ok
[08:33] <bazhang> bint, which one did you want? lubuntu, kubuntu ubuntu edubuntu ubuntustudio ?
[08:33] <bint> ubuntu desktop
[08:33] <well_laid_lawn> bint:  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[08:33] <bint> sweet thx
[08:33] <bint> and for what do i need xserver-org?
[08:34] <raven> truecrypt creating... ext2fs_mkdir: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read beim Erstellen des Wurzelverzeichnisses
[08:34] <raven> what to do?
[08:34] <well_laid_lawn> bint:  it should come as a dependency of the desktop
[08:34] <sacarlson> basncy: Jordan_U tells us if you don't format it will keep you /home/acconts  you should try that.
[08:34] <basncy> dougb_freebsd, sacarlson thanks all of you.i should be care when run programe as root,
[08:34] <itsux2bu> bint, might try   tasksel   at the command line
[08:34] <bazhang> bint, it'll be installed with ubuntu-desktop
[08:34] <FLASHER> hey
[08:34] <sacarlson> basncy: yes and virtualbox it if posible
[08:35] <FLASHER> anyone have an idia about Mikrotik ?
[08:35] <dougb_freebsd> basncy: yes, that  might work, but if it were me I'd definitely back up my data first just in case  :)
[08:35] <basncy> sacarlson, thans a lot ,it takes you a big time
[08:35] <bazhang> FLASHER, what is that?
[08:35] <FLASHER> ROUTER OS
[08:35] <sacarlson> basncy: hay it's all for the fun of it.  good luck
[08:35] <FLASHER> hotspot server
[08:35] <bazhang> FLASHER, something to do with Ubuntu ?
[08:35] <basncy> dougb_freebsd, thanks,i will reinstall letter.
[08:35] <dougb_freebsd> good luck :)
[08:36] <FLASHER> yes
[08:36] <th0r> FLASHER: I think mikrotik runs centos by default
[08:36] <FLASHER> i wanna know how to hack it with ubuntu
[08:36] <FLASHER> yeah
[08:36] <bazhang> FLASHER, wrong channel and network
[08:36] <basncy> sacarlson, thank you
[08:36] <FLASHER> its not hack man
[08:36] <bazhang> FLASHER, its offtopic
[08:36] <FLASHER> i just wanna admin telnet pass
[08:37] <FLASHER> i heared ubuntu can do that
[08:37] <FLASHER> i've ubuntu 10.04
[08:37] <administrator_> How to play .wma in ubuntu?
[08:37] <bazhang> FLASHER, please stop
[08:37] <FLASHER> ok sorry
[08:37] <KB1JWQ> administrator_: VLC
[08:37] <timewriter> administrator_ , rhytmbox doesnt help you ?
[08:37] <FLASHER> administrator_ : rythembox too
[08:37] <daffy> hello all
[08:38] <administrator_> In Chinese system , there isn't rhytmbox
[08:38] <bazhang> administrator_, sure there is
[08:38] <timewriter> install it
[08:38] <administrator_> The system called YLMF OS
[08:38] <ev0> hi all
[08:38] <bazhang> administrator_, that's not ubuntu
[08:39] <KB1JWQ> administrator_: And hence not supported here. :-)
[08:39] <timewriter> administrator_ , you can install vlc
[08:39] <administrator_> The web site of YLMf OS  says it is ubuntu
[08:39] <bazhang> administrator_, its not.
[08:39] <timewriter> cat /etc/rel*
[08:40] <timewriter> oops
[08:40] <bint> what exactly does "apt" mean?
[08:40] <bint> sudo is a root cmd? apt - i dont know and get is just to get files
[08:40] <timewriter> short form for aptitude i guess
[08:40] <bint> well my english's to weak.. aptitude never heard
[08:41] <bint> gooa translate it :D
[08:41] <bazhang> bint, sudo is your user password
[08:41] <ev0> right
[08:41] <dougb_freebsd> man sudo
[08:41] <dougb_freebsd> man apt-get
[08:41] <bazhang> bint, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop and then provide your user password
[08:41] <KE1HA> bint:  it's the front end for Debians dpkg package management system.
[08:41] <bint> yep
[08:41] <dougb_freebsd> very helpful :)
[08:41] <timewriter> bint , aptitude - high-level interface to the package manager
[08:41] <administrator_> bazhang: then what is it?
[08:42] <ddavids> hi all, pls i have a manual partition setup wt 6GB for root, 2Gb for swap and the rest as home but upon installing kubuntu on the exisiting gnome , i get a message that there isn't space on the device, how can i resolve that pleassseeeee?
[08:42] <bint> so "sudo" doesn't mean that i'm going for a root command?
[08:42] <bazhang> administrator_, its a derivative, made to look like windows xp, and not supported here.
[08:42] <bint> i thought everything with sudo is kinda administator thing
[08:42] <mujtaba> hello, any one alive ?!
[08:42] <mujtaba> I am having some major issues
[08:42] <bint> let us know
[08:42] <timewriter> bint , apt - Advanced Package Tool
[08:42] <KB1JWQ> mujtaba: Ask.
[08:42] <bint> ahh ok
[08:42] <bazhang> bint, it provides root privileges for your user for a limited time
[08:42] <rony_> hello i m facing a problem in virtual box
[08:42] <bint> yep
[08:42] <dougb_freebsd> bint, type this:  man sudo
[08:42] <mujtaba> Ubuntu One is giving issues
[08:43] <KE1HA> ddavids:  can you patebin df -hT and fdisk -l so we can look at your partition info.
[08:43] <bazhang> mujtaba, try #ubuntuone
[08:43] <timewriter> bint , you execute command as root , without having to log in as root or use "su"
[08:43] <bint> mujtaba meta-questions sux
[08:43] <bazhang> timewriter, that is not supported here, please dont recommend it
[08:43] <timewriter> bazhang , i am not
[08:43] <mujtaba> no one is alive there
[08:43] <timewriter> i told him what sudo does
[08:44] <mujtaba> I cant find the sync with ubunto one on any files or folder when i right click
[08:44] <bazhang> timewriter, my mistake, misread, my apologies
[08:44] <bint> nobody recommended me nothing :D
[08:44] <timewriter> its ok bazhang , my way of saying things is also wierd ;)
[08:44] <rony_> i m using windows xp pro in virtual box,but i cant attach usb drive in guest os.
[08:44] <timewriter> no need for apologies
[08:44] <bazhang> rony_, where is vbox from
[08:45] <bint> but you could.. its like that - i gonna rent a dedicated ubuntu-destkop server.. but as i'm really new on this i kinda wanna have a gui destkop and a remotedestkop-tool installed
[08:45] <bazhang> rony_, vbox-ose has no usb support
[08:45] <timewriter> rony_ , you can manage removable devices from the top window
[08:45] <bint> so i can go on the server with a graphical interface
[08:45] <rony_> oracol
[08:45] <bazhang> rony_, installed the guest additions? there is also #vbox
[08:45] <zfe> hello folks
[08:45] <timewriter> bazhang , i can use usb devices on virtualbox
[08:45] <th0r> bint: you might want to investigate X-forwarding via ssh for access to the server
[08:45] <bint> for me it works with the guest addidions
[08:45] <zfe> how can i remove that weird interface from my netbook remix
[08:45] <administrator_> bazhang:look like windows xp that is right, but the system check it is ubuntu system
[08:45] <zfe> and use a normal interface?
[08:46] <rony_> i already installed guest addition.
[08:46] <bazhang> timewriter, yes from the website, the repos -ose has no usb support
[08:46] <bint> th0r do you mind if i PM you?
[08:46] <administrator_> bazhang:where do you get  YLMF OS?
[08:46] <timewriter> rony_ , open the virtual machine , then you see a tab called Devices , on the top
[08:46] <th0r> bint: np
[08:46] <mujtaba_> pls some one help me with ubuntu one == ppl in that chan are sleeping :S
[08:46] <timewriter> youre right bazhang , i downloaded it from vbox website
[08:46] <bazhang> administrator_, not a debate. ylmf os is not supported here. so please dont ask
[08:47] <timewriter> im afk for 15 mins
[08:47] <mujtaba_> help me any one
[08:47] <bazhang> mujtaba_, ask a question
[08:49] <mujtaba> Thanks for booting me :(
[08:49] <dougb_freebsd> mujtaba, actually IRC booted you :)   mujtaba left the room (quit: Ping timeout: 255 seconds).
[08:50] <mujtaba> I just asked for help. at one time you guys are not assisting
[08:50] <dougb_freebsd> but you have 2 clients in here, you should be able to see that for yourself
[08:50] <mujtaba> weired..
[08:50] <mujtaba> anyway can any of you help me in ubuntu one ?
[08:50] <mujtaba> cuz ppl there are sleeping !!
[08:50] <bazhang> mujtaba, ask a question
[08:50] <ddavids> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/LLk0dZwv
[08:52] <kazagistar> I want to create an ftp server for annon downloads ONLY, but I have tried like 4 tutorials and nothing even remotely works
[08:52] <netbkneutrino> my track pad in 10.04 sometimes acts like i just pushed it when I move it from one window to another. is there a fix for this
[08:53] <mujtaba_>  I cant find the sync with ubuntu one in any files or folder when i right click
[08:53] <mujtaba_> well?
[08:54] <ddavids> pls someone help me look at my partition table and see if anything is wrong http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/LLk0dZwv
[08:55] <ddavids> my system is telling me no space
[08:55] <peepsalot> is there an app for graphing wifi signal strength.  i want to test out some antenna configurations, and see how the average signal changes across a graph, since there are large fluctuations.
[08:55] <x-Na> ddavids, your root partition is full
[08:55] <ddavids> x-Na:
[08:55] <ddavids> x-Na: pls what do u suggest?
[08:55] <x-Na> ddavids, free some space
[08:55] <ddavids> x-Na: how?
[08:56] <x-Na> Just by deleting the stuff you don't need, or uninstalling packages you don't need
[08:56] <well_laid_lawn> ddavids:  in terminal do   ls -lh /var/log   and look for large files
[08:57] <x-Na> ddavids, and run 'apt-get autoclean'
[08:57] <o2oo> hi, who knows ubuntu linux programming?
[08:57] <ddavids> well_laid_lawn; and when i find them?
[08:57] <well_laid_lawn> ddavids:  5.6Gb isn't really large enough these days for the os
[08:57] <x-Na> Indeed
[08:57] <crazy2k_> There's something I'm evidently not understanding. I have two processes. One is a real-time process with 99 priority using SCHED_FIFO policy (it's a while(1)). The other is a normal process. For some reason, when I run both the normal proces can print, so it's executing. Why?
[08:57] <well_laid_lawn> ddavids:  you could remove them if they're the old ones
[08:59] <ddavids> isn't there a way to increase the size?
[09:00] <bgo> hi
[09:00] <ddavids> i just did autoclean but im not sure that did any magic
[09:00] <zfe> hello
[09:00] <sacarlson> o2oo: I know ruby, perl, some C, bash. very little java,  what is it you are looking for?
[09:00] <pinPoint> im curious, can a live cd run on a computer without a hard disk?
[09:00] <zfe> can anybody tell me how to remove the interface of netbook remix
[09:00] <well_laid_lawn> ddavids:  you could try to resize it from the live cd
[09:00] <zfe> and use a normal desktop?
[09:01] <ddavids> well_laid_lawn; im using a netbook, so its live usb
[09:01] <o2oo> anybody know how to get a sorted list of files in a directory?
[09:01] <well_laid_lawn> pinPoint:  yep - just nothing you do will be saved between reboots
[09:01] <o2oo> anybody know how to get a sorted list of files in a directory? (using linux C API)
[09:01] <sacarlson> o2oo: sorted by time size....?
[09:01] <pinPoint> well_laid_lawn: but you can save a file on the desktop so you can attach it to email?
[09:01] <well_laid_lawn> ddavids:  it will have the partitioner in the menu
[09:02] <sacarlson> o2oo: try man ls
[09:02] <well_laid_lawn> pinPoint:  I would think so
[09:02] <dougb_freebsd> o2oo: also, man 2 stat
[09:02] <pinPoint> well_laid_lawn: nice
[09:03]  * dougb_freebsd waves
[09:03] <o2oo> hi, I mean using linux C programming, not shell command
[09:03] <o2oo> sacarlson, , I mean using linux C programming, not shell command
[09:03] <sacarlson> o2oo: if you want to look at recusive dirs also man find
[09:03] <sacarlson> o2oo: those programs are writen in C so you can get the source and look at them
[09:04] <dougb_freebsd> o2oo: read that man page, and do your own homework :)
[09:04] <o2oo> sacarlson, I want to know which C api could get files in sorted size or filename
[09:04] <o2oo> I want to know which C api could get files in sorted size or filename
[09:04] <sacarlson> o2oo: the ls program as stated
[09:04] <itsux2bu> i just figured how to have combine both ubuntu server and desktop on the same computer
[09:04] <bgo> guys can you recommend me how to learn sys programming
[09:05] <o2oo> "ls" is a shell command, not a C api
[09:06] <sacarlson> o2oo: ls -S for size sort ls -t for time sort  just ls for alpa sort
[09:06] <well_laid_lawn> o2oo:  they are recommending you read the source files for ls so you can learn what you want - do that or /j #programming pls
[09:06] <sacarlson> o2oo: no it's write in C
[09:06] <itsux2bu> o2oo, you can sort a file list in whatever order you want without having to write programs in C
[09:07] <mujtaba_> any one here who can help me out ?
[09:07] <sacarlson> o2oo: C programs can be ran from the shell
[09:07] <wele> what the best player for vedio?
[09:07] <o2oo> itsux2bu,  how?
[09:07] <wizzle> how to make my partition automaticly mounting in start up?
[09:07] <mujtaba_> guys?!
[09:07] <mujtaba_> alive?
[09:07] <itsux2bu> see what sacarlson said above
[09:08] <o2oo> sacarlson, I would read the source code of "ls" command later
[09:08] <well_laid_lawn> !fstab | wizzle
[09:08] <sacarlson> o2oo:  sure you can write them in ruby or java or anything else but the stadard ls program the we run is writen in C
[09:08] <itsux2bu> o2oo,  also try   man ls
[09:08] <zfe> can anybody tell me how to remove the interface of netbook remix and use a normal desktop?
[09:08] <marsfligth> is it possible to insert more than one source path using 'rsync'?
[09:09] <o2oo> hmmmmm, thanks !!
[09:09] <well_laid_lawn> zfe:  you can install ubuntu-desktop and select it at login
[09:09] <o2oo> thank all of you.
[09:09] <zfe> thanks well_laid_lawn
[09:09] <daffy> thats what im workig on, i have not found a way to do so. there use to be a settings but i cant find it
[09:10] <itsux2bu> zfe, you might want tp try running..   tasksel
[09:10] <well_laid_lawn> itsux2bu:  why do you keep suggesting that to newbies?
[09:10] <itsux2bu> zfe,  it gives you a list of what is installed and what you can install
[09:11] <abountu1> where does the PATH get set in ubuntu?
[09:11] <itsux2bu> i have used it and its eqasy to use
[09:11] <zfe> i think i'm fine
[09:11] <itsux2bu> *easy
[09:11] <zfe> with apt-get
[09:11] <zfe> thanks
[09:13] <itsux2bu> everytime i try to use apt-get i have to find the exact name of the app i want to install..  like.. apache2.. not just apache.. mysql5.. not just mysql... tasksel.. it says  LAMP and it knows the details of that..
[09:13] <wele> is there any program like frontpage to edit website and diesgn?
[09:14] <well_laid_lawn> itsux2bu:  I use   apt-cache search   for that
[09:14] <Belgicano> wele: just editing and seeing the result?
[09:14] <wele> yes
[09:15] <itsux2bu> well_laid_lawn, good point.. as a newbie i didn't know that existed.. but with tasksel i didn't need it..
[09:15] <Belgicano> wele: which languages? just html?
[09:15] <wele> yes
[09:15] <wele> html and php
[09:15] <Belgicano> do you know html or dou you want to have the program writing the code for you?
[09:16] <well_laid_lawn> itsux2bu:  there's   apt-cache policy   if you need to know about versions or if somethings installed
[09:16] <itsux2bu> wele, you heard of  LAMP  ?
[09:16] <Belgicano> wele, if you want php, you'll need a full environment, LAMP (linux-apache-mysql-php)
[09:16] <well_laid_lawn> !lamp
[09:16] <wele> i know html but if there a program help me to writing will be better
[09:17] <Belgicano> wele: for php you'll be on your own, i don't think there is any program that will write it for you...
[09:18] <wele> itsux2bu: am new in linux
[09:18] <jca1981> hi, can i get help here with some apt-get problems
[09:18] <well_laid_lawn> sure
[09:18] <wele> Belgicano: ok how about the html
[09:18] <itsux2bu> wele, i'm a little new myself..
[09:18] <thulstrup> wele: if you are looking for editors - you can consider eclipse or netbeans - there are many others of course
[09:19] <wele> editors and viewers for html
[09:19] <well_laid_lawn> firefox is good for viewing html...
[09:19] <sacarlson> wele: with openoffice writer you can export in html but it never seems to come out the same as I see it in the writer.
[09:20] <bint> so i instalelled a gui (ubuntu-desktop) on my server but i somehow what to deinstall it again
[09:20] <bint> is this possible?
[09:20] <bint> if its really complicated i could just reinstall ubuntu-server i dont really care
[09:20] <bint> but since i wanna learn new stuff.. the correct way might be good to know
[09:21] <well_laid_lawn> bint:  it is a meta package so you can't uninstall all it brings in in one go atm
[09:21] <sacarlson> wele: you can edit a document jast as you would in word for windows with pics and links and export that into html to put in your appache2 page
[09:21] <KE1HA> bint:  just do in reverse: sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[09:21] <well_laid_lawn> !info ubuntu-desktop
[09:21] <bint> ok
[09:21] <bazhang> !purekde | bint this might do it (dont install kubuntu-desktop though)
[09:22] <bint> i kinda found interesting stuff
[09:22] <bazhang> ubuntu-desktop itself is a metapackage so removing it will do nothing
[09:22] <Belgicano> wele: kompozer could suit you...
[09:22] <bint> well i'll just reinstall ubuntu-server so its proper again
[09:23] <bazhang> bint, no need, just follow that guide
[09:23] <KE1HA> bazhang:  I need to check on that one.
[09:23] <iseepackets1> hello
[09:23] <wele> kompozer ist editor and veiwer in the same time
[09:23] <thulstrup> !kompozer | wele
[09:23] <iseepackets1> anyone in computer repair?
[09:23] <bint> but let me explain what i want to do: i want to have a proper LAMP server to host some pretty primitive websites, i wanna host an FTPD and i want to be able to have a graphical interface to connect to the server (GUI)
[09:24] <bint> i foud a link for ssh x-forwarding
[09:24] <bazhang> iseepackets1, try ##hardware
[09:24] <bint> that seems to be pretty interesting for me
[09:24] <iseepackets1> k thnxx
[09:24] <KE1HA> bazhang:  if I remove the desktop, then autoremove all the packages no longer required right
[09:24] <wele> thanks guys
[09:25] <bazhang> KE1HA, just removing the -desktop package will do nothing.
[09:25] <well_laid_lawn> the -desktop package is 60kB
[09:25] <bazhang> the pschocats link has it
[09:25] <bazhang> err psychocats
[09:26] <iseepackets1> how do it registrer my name
[09:26] <iseepackets1> ?
[09:26] <KE1HA> bazhang:  yet installing ubuntu-desktop installs all the pkg's
[09:26] <bazhang> !register | iseepackets1
[09:26] <bazhang> iseepackets1, /join #freenode for assistance
[09:26] <bazhang> KE1HA, /msg ubottu metapackage
[09:27] <KE1HA> bazhang:  Im gonna go mess with that, as somehting isn't right there
[09:27] <kazz_> Does anyone know where (what package) the virtio_net kernel modules are for ubuntu 10.04 server?  They don't seem to exist for kernel >= 2.6.32-22-server.
[09:27] <ddavids> pls i have a flash drive tht is not mounting but i can see it using lsusb, how can i repair it?
[09:27] <iseepackets1> !register
[09:28] <sanjoy> thanks
[09:29] <iseepackets> hmmm its still saying i need to egister
[09:30] <well_laid_lawn> iseepackets:  they send an email as confirmation
[09:30] <vargas> hello, what's up everyone...
[09:30] <sinister-nation> hi everyone
[09:30] <sanjoy> cool
[09:30] <wele> how about visual studio compiler what program can be help
[09:30] <iseepackets> o ok thank you
[09:31] <itsux2bu> wele, i believe that is a windows program
[09:31] <wele> yes
[09:31] <sinister-nation> I have a question, I have ubuntu install well dual botting with windows 7. but i decided to use kubuntu instead. so how do i remove ubuntu from my system?
[09:31] <wele> there is no way to use it in ubuntu
[09:31] <itsux2bu> wele, you understand linux doesn't run windows programs
[09:32] <wele> yes
[09:32] <itsux2bu> wele, ubuntu is a linux opersating system..
[09:32] <wele> what can i use for c++ / c
[09:32] <CHAodzip> itsux2bu:may can use wine
[09:32] <itsux2bu> *operating
[09:32] <iseepackets> i didn't get a e-mail how can i get a resend?
[09:33] <well_laid_lawn> iseepackets:  check in the #freenode tab
[09:33] <Belgicano> Anyone familiar with ncmpcpp? I'd like all the colors to be the defaults, so I set [colors_enabled = "no"] in my .ncmpcpp/config, but the statusbar, header and progressbar (in short the 2 topmost lines and the 2 bottommost lines) keep appearing in cyan, any idea?
[09:33] <sed`> What's the official way to turn off services like sshd with Ubuntu 10.04's upstart system?
[09:33] <wizzle> how to make my partition icon disappear from desktop even when it active?
[09:33] <itsux2bu> CHAodzip, yea.. but thats mostly for advanced users.. he don't seem to be..
[09:34] <jrib> !icons | wizzle
[09:34] <sed`> wele: Eclipse (with CDT)
[09:34] <well_laid_lawn> sed`:  you can try   sudo service ssh stop
[09:34] <wizzle> jrib, thanks.
[09:35] <jrib> sed`: you mean forever?
[09:35] <sed`> jrib: yes. my solution so far was to rename /etc/init/ssh.conf to, for example, /etc/init/ssh.conf.disabled
[09:35] <wele> !Eclipse
[09:35] <sed`> i just want to start it manually when it's needed
[09:35] <sed`> which works fine the old-fashioned way, /etc/init.d/ssh {start|stop}, but only if upstart doesn't respawn it
[09:36] <iseepackets> ok im there now what lawwn :)
[09:36] <jca1981> im getting this on apt install "Depends: libc6 (>= 2.11) but 2.10.1-0ubuntu17 is to be installed"
[09:36] <sed`> wele: http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/packages/eclipse-ide-cc-developers/heliosr
[09:36] <jrib> sed`: that's one way, but then you can't use the nice "service" command and friends.  I prefer to just add "never" as a condition for the service to start.  Or, if you'll never use the service at all (i.e. you never want it to start manually), you can just uninstall itt
[09:36] <sed`> jrib: the condition is configured in /etc/init/*.conf, right? I'm not yet familiar with upstart very well.
[09:36] <well_laid_lawn> iseepackets:  one of the last messages there to you should be about the email being sent
[09:37] <jrib> sed`: right
[09:37] <sed`> thanks.
[09:37] <jrib> sed`: my gdm.conf: http://pastebin.com/f6dyjv5m
[09:37] <jrib> sed`: I haven't found anything more official than some mails on a mailing list though...
[09:38] <jrib> sinister-nation: you know you can easily install the kubuntu packages on ubuntu and then have the choice between gnome and kde at the login screen?
[09:38] <jrib> !kde | sinister-nation
[09:39] <sed`> jrib: that's good enough. what I think is not good is that Ubuntu has "rcconf" and "bum" in its repositores which don't play well with upstart at all. for example if you disable "ssh" in rcconf, it will still run.
[09:39] <jrib> sed`: keep an eye on https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/upstart/+bug/94065 I suppose
[09:39] <sinister-nation> I would do that but I don't have the room to spare on my hdd for both
[09:39] <sed`> looks good, jrib
[09:40] <jrib> sinister-nation: really?  How much room do you have, it shouldn't occupy that much...
[09:40] <sed`> upstart and classical init.d tools like “rcconf” or “bum” should block each other. maybe i'll file a bug.
[09:42] <jrib> sed`: some packages still use the old init scripts though
[09:42] <sinister-nation> windows 7 consume majority of my hdd. I need to get use to using linux before I have a pure linux computer first. So right now ubuntu is on a 3GB partition
[09:43] <jrib> !purekde | sinister-nation
[09:43] <jca1981> can you help me? im getting this when i try to install virtualbox via apt get "Depends: libc6 (>= 2.11) but 2.10.1-0ubuntu17 is to be installed"
[09:43] <sinister-nation> k thanxs ubottu
[09:43] <jrib> jca1981: apt-cache policy virtualbox
[09:44] <jrib> jca1981: (or whatever the name is for the package you are attempting to install)
[09:44] <agus> hi
[09:44] <sinister-nation> k every have a nice night or nice morning whateever the case is for you. :)
[09:45] <agus> anyone can suggest me which player I should use
[09:45] <bazhang> !players > agus
[09:45] <jca1981> jrib, Candidate: 3.2.8-64453~Ubuntu~lucid
[09:45] <p0pc0rn> where do you set your dns servers in ubuntu
[09:45] <agus> anyone can suggest me which player I should use to play hd video
[09:45] <jrib> jca1981: please paste full output in a pastebin
[09:47] <agus> is there something left with library so I cannot see my video picture is not good
[09:49] <jca1981> jrib,i think i found the problem im still running older version of ubunto and trying to use newer package :)
[09:50] <jrib> jca1981: indeed
[09:50] <jca1981> jrib, im updating me dist to newest now :) thanks hehe
[09:50] <GuitarShredder> How to set permissions? numbers 775 or so os
[09:50] <GuitarShredder> so so
[09:51] <jrib> !permissions > GuitarShredder
[09:51] <GuitarShredder> ya
[09:53] <tensorpudding> is there any way to bring back empathy's contact list after it closes itself?
[09:53] <tensorpudding> for that matter, is there any way to quit empathy if you delete all its windows?
[09:53] <Belserusk> Hi. Is it possible to customise nautilus just like dragging icons in Firefox? I notice that nautilus has a lot of wasted space.
[09:54] <Fudge> hi when you need to install grub for a dual boot windows/ubuntu, which partition do you have to isntall it to. i do the grub, find /boot/grub/stage1 which it doe
[09:54] <GuitarShredder> Setting permissions is related to internet also? I mean, can internet users see my files if permission is given? like localhost.
[09:54] <jrib> GuitarShredder: not unless you install some service to let them
[09:54] <andreiutz> hello, where can I show my output errors ? I found out rafb.net is discontinued
[09:54] <jrib> !grub > Fudge
[09:55] <GuitarShredder> thanks
[09:55] <Fudge> thankyou for grub info
[09:55] <GuitarShredder> if a beginner sets permissions randomly and unknowingly, then is my computer on internet risk?
[09:56] <KE1HA> Fudge:  unless it's a non-standard install, typically Grub should be installed to the first device /dev/sda or /dev/hda
[09:56] <jrib> GuitarShredder: not unless you install some service to let them
[09:56] <jrib> GuitarShredder: though you'll probably end up breaking your system if you mess with permissions you don't understand
[09:56] <GuitarShredder> so, those services need to be downloaded??
[09:56] <jrib> GuitarShredder: typically you would install them through a package manager...
[09:57] <GuitarShredder> ok ok. So i will read first.. thanks
[09:58] <GuitarShredder> how to check PHP version?
[09:59] <jrib> GuitarShredder: apt-cache policy php5 ?  Or you can create some php page with that php command that gives all the info about your install
[09:59] <ikonia> GuitarShredder: phpinfo as a php function, or look in synaptic at th epackage version you installed
[10:00] <GuitarShredder> not   PHP -v  ??
[10:00] <ubudekstop> read on the docs that view.yml is deprecated in favor of using helpers directly in the template...does anybody knows why?
[10:02] <andreiutz> Hi, I need to install a Canon LBP2900 printer on my Ubuntu 10.04. I have the drivers but I get this error when I try to install them. What is the problem ? http://dpaste.com/234744/
[10:02] <ubudekstop> sorry wrong room
[10:04] <Joric> i dont get how to disable X, i've disabled gdm in sysv-rc-conf but it keeps starting!
[10:04] <Trerot> where do i change the time it takes for the "computer is locked" picture comes up?
[10:05] <iflema> !nox | Joric
[10:07] <well_laid_lawn> !ping
[10:08] <itsux2bu> GuitarShredder, try this..    create a text file with     <?php phpinfo(); ?>    in it and call the file something like phpinfo.php  and put it in your /var/www folder..  load your browser and type..   localhost/phpinfo.php
[10:09] <botcity> i get "Xlib:  extension "RANDR" missing on display ":0.0".RandR extension missing" when i type xrandr in the terminal yes this is a duel monitor problem, would any of you busy guy's shed some light on the problem?
[10:09] <Trerot> figued it out
[10:09] <Trerot> nvm =P
[10:12] <Timburr> how do i connect to shared folders in a Linux virtual machine in vbox ?
[10:12] <andreiutz> Hi, I need to install a Canon LBP2900 printer on my Ubuntu 10.04. I have the drivers but I get this error when I try to install them. http://dpaste.com/234744/
[10:12] <ikonia> Timburr: exactly the same as on a physical machine
[10:13] <Timburr> my host i running Win 7
[10:13] <Timburr> is*
[10:17] <itsux2bu> i'm desktop using gedit.. i just tried to save a text file in /var/www and said i don't have permission to save file there..  is this where i would use gksudo?   how can i do that without losing the file i created?
[10:17] <rich97> Hey, does anyone know of a way I can download old messages using evolution?
[10:18] <itsux2bu> *i'm in desktop..
[10:18] <Chipped_Cpu> whoa alot of ppl
[10:18] <ikonia> rich97: are they pop3 ?
[10:18] <rich97> yeah
[10:18] <Chipped_Cpu> what up guys
[10:18] <ikonia> rich97: then they are gone off the server once they are downloaded
[10:18] <well_laid_lawn> itsux2bu:  save the file in your home dir then use   sudo mv
[10:18] <itsux2bu> Chipped_Cpu,  so your a "chipped chip" ?
[10:18] <rich97> ikonia: I selected leave messages on server though
[10:18] <ikonia> Chipped_Cpu: welcome to #ubuntu, this channel talks about ubuntu support issues only
[10:19] <ikonia> rich97: then just download them again
[10:19] <rich97> ikonia: Well, clicking send / recive does nothing does nothing.
[10:19] <arvind_khadri> Hi, which package provides check_nt ?
[10:20] <Chipped_Cpu> check this out...i got 10.04 working on a pentium 3 and 256 mb of ram
[10:20] <Chipped_Cpu> and it's still not too bad
[10:20] <Chipped_Cpu> no compiz
[10:20] <ikonia> rich97: then you need to talk to your mail host provider
[10:20] <ikonia> Chipped_Cpu: that is not suprising
[10:20] <jrib> Chipped_Cpu: buy some ram
[10:20] <itsux2bu> Chipped_Cpu, desktop?
[10:21] <Chipped_Cpu> i have 6 gigs in my desktop...i just found this laptop laying in my closet and wanted to try it
[10:21] <botcity> andreiutz: im no expert but it looks like your missing some cups files libcupsys2 have you read the read me file or the documentation on the site?
[10:21] <Chipped_Cpu> i think it belong to jesus...very old ibm thinkpad
[10:21] <arvind_khadri> check_nt is used to check the nagios clients, specifically windows
[10:22] <Chipped_Cpu> nagios is good
[10:22] <Chipped_Cpu> server monitoring
[10:22] <itsux2bu> Chipped_Cpu, is there a crank shaft sticking out the side?
[10:22] <Chipped_Cpu> yeah...how'd you know?
[10:23] <simion314> hi, i want to convert videos to 3gp, and the ffmpeg in the repos is striped of some codecs, googling i find many solutons, compiling from source, other application, what do you think is the simplest way to do it?
[10:23] <Chipped_Cpu> yeah
[10:23] <Chipped_Cpu> medibuntu?
[10:23] <andreiutz> botcity, it is installed
[10:24] <jrib> simion314: I think you just need to install the unstripped packages, no?
[10:24] <Chipped_Cpu> what's botcity?
[10:24] <botcity> it my name
[10:24] <Chipped_Cpu> oh
[10:24]  * Chipped_Cpu not paying attention
[10:24] <arvind_khadri> ikonia, you know of it? the alternative for check_nt, nagios ?
[10:24] <Chipped_Cpu> doesn't someother repo have it?
[10:25] <andreiutz> botcity, it says this: libcups2 is already the newest version
[10:25] <ikonia> arvind_khadri: what's the issue with the nagios client ?
[10:25] <Chipped_Cpu> maybe you need an older version
[10:26] <jrib> simion314: maybe now, they're called "-extra"
[10:26] <botcity> andreiutz well line 9 says  Package libcupsys2 is not installed.
[10:26] <arvind_khadri> ikonia, the server is not getting the correct information from the client. -l parameters are missing. but it is present
[10:26] <itsux2bu> Chipped_Cpu, i recently figured out how to use  tasksel  to create as combo  ubuntu  desktop / server..
[10:26] <Chipped_Cpu> well then install libcupsys2
[10:26] <Chipped_Cpu> it should be in the repo
[10:26] <Chipped_Cpu> sudo apt-get install libcupsys2
[10:27] <Chipped_Cpu> try that
[10:27] <ikonia> arvind_khadri: that's odd, not seen that
[10:28] <Chipped_Cpu> what's tasksel
[10:28] <arvind_khadri> ikonia, ohh, so do you know how do i use check-nt?
[10:28] <itsux2bu> i guess a command line utility that installs apps..
[10:29] <Chipped_Cpu> a cli to install apps.  yum/apt/pacman
[10:29] <ptptaylor> hey quick question
[10:30] <Chipped_Cpu> now tasksel
[10:30] <ptptaylor> how do i register my nick name?
[10:30] <ptptaylor> i'm lost...
[10:30] <jrib> !register | ptptaylor
[10:30] <ptptaylor> kk
[10:30] <itsux2bu> Chipped_Cpu, when i installed ubuntu server.. it showed a list of server apps to install.. without needing to know the exact name of the package..
[10:30] <Chipped_Cpu> ok
[10:30] <Chipped_Cpu> nice
[10:30] <jrib> Chipped_Cpu: except tasksel really works with apt...
[10:30] <Chipped_Cpu> gotcha
[10:31] <itsux2bu> apt-get?
[10:31] <simion314> jrib: aptitude search ffmpeg, i can't find any extra or unsuported version or plugins
[10:31] <Chipped_Cpu> that's why i love youtube and irc...i'm always learning about new linux stuff
[10:31] <itsux2bu> its a frontend to apt-get?
[10:31] <Chipped_Cpu> did you try medibuntu?????
[10:31] <Chipped_Cpu> kewl
[10:31] <itsux2bu> me? no..
[10:32] <well_laid_lawn> !who | Chipped_Cpu
[10:32] <jrib> simion314: I wouldn't expect you to... look for libavcodec for starters
[10:32] <Chipped_Cpu> no, the other guy looking for the ffmpeg plugins
[10:32] <Chipped_Cpu> thanks ubottu
[10:32] <jrib> itsux2bu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Tasksel
[10:32] <itsux2bu> i read it
[10:33] <itsux2bu> jrib
[10:33] <Chipped_Cpu> hey ubottu
[10:33] <well_laid_lawn> !bot
[10:33] <Chipped_Cpu> thought so
[10:33] <Chipped_Cpu> lol
[10:33] <well_laid_lawn> :]
[10:33] <well_laid_lawn> !lol | bugger me
[10:33] <itsux2bu> jrib, i used today to create a hybrid Ubuntu  Server / Desktop  system for myself
[10:34] <ikonia> well_laid_lawn: please control your language
[10:34] <itsux2bu> * used tasksel
[10:34] <Chipped_Cpu> keyboard yeehaa
[10:34] <well_laid_lawn> np :]
[10:35] <Chipped_Cpu> wow info bot your a nerd
[10:35] <Chipped_Cpu> no lol? seriously
[10:35] <Chipped_Cpu> l o l
[10:35] <itsux2bu> does desktop have a file manager?
[10:35] <Chipped_Cpu> ?
[10:35] <Chipped_Cpu> nautilus
[10:36] <ubuntu> hi
[10:36] <Chipped_Cpu> what up
[10:36] <ubuntu> good
[10:36] <ranjan> Hi all,
[10:36] <Chipped_Cpu> yeeha
[10:36] <ubuntu> where are you froms?
[10:36] <ranjan> does mono help spread virus as it is able to run exe files?
[10:36] <ikonia> ranjan: no
[10:36] <Chipped_Cpu> well my ip from the vpn i'm using is from minnesota
[10:36] <ikonia> ubuntu: chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic, this channel is just for support issues please.
[10:37] <ranjan> ikonia, how is it different from wine?
[10:37] <Chipped_Cpu> :)
[10:37] <ptptaylor> \join #freenod
[10:37] <sed`> Chipped_Cpu: people rarely laugh out loud when they write "lol". LQTM is often more appropriate.
[10:37] <ptptaylor> \join freenode
[10:37] <Chipped_Cpu> winetricks
[10:37] <ptptaylor> \join #freenode
[10:37] <well_laid_lawn> ptptaylor:  use the /
[10:37] <ikonia> ranjan: ask the mono guys to explain, it's not really an ubuntu issue
[10:37] <Chipped_Cpu> forward slash
[10:37] <ptptaylor> ahh for goodness sake, so used to using the backslash!
[10:37] <well_laid_lawn> heh
[10:37] <Chipped_Cpu> yeah i see that
[10:37] <ubuntu> kto polak;d?
[10:38] <ranjan> ikonia, do you know about the fire raising against mono?
[10:38] <itsux2bu> can i use the desktop to move a file?  or do i just open a terminal window and use mv?
[10:38] <sed`> itsux2bu: if you're using Gnome, just drag & drop
[10:38] <ikonia> ranjan: I have no idea what your talking about, however again, this isn't an ubuntu issue
[10:38] <erUSUL> itsux2bu: drag and drop ?
[10:38] <Chipped_Cpu> what are you talking about itsux2bu?
[10:38] <well_laid_lawn> itsux2bu:  depends on the permissions needed
[10:38] <erUSUL> itsux2bu: cut and paste also works
[10:38] <ranjan> ikonia, then just shut your mouth,.
[10:39] <well_laid_lawn> don't poke the bear :]
[10:39] <itsux2bu> well, i don't hasve permission in the destination folder
[10:39] <itsux2bu> *have
[10:39] <Chipped_Cpu> sudo nautilus is what i think you want
[10:39] <ikonia> Chipped_Cpu: gksudo nautlius
[10:39] <Chipped_Cpu> su -c "nautilus"
[10:39] <well_laid_lawn> itsux2bu:  you can do   gksu nautilus   to use the gui or   sudo mv   your choice]
[10:39] <Chipped_Cpu> will work also
[10:40] <ikonia> Chipped_Cpu: no, thats no correct, you need to use gksudo
[10:40] <Chipped_Cpu> for what?
[10:40] <ikonia> Chipped_Cpu: sudo won't setup the graphical environment for graphical apps, so they will get written as "root" you should use gksudo for graphical apps
[10:40] <zatan> /home/masteris/Downloads/xchat-purple-status_1.0/xchat_purple_status.py
[10:40] <Chipped_Cpu> i use sudo nautilus all the time...and on fedora I use su -c "nautilus"
[10:40] <itsux2bu> Chipped_Cpu, gksudo is safer than sudo when using the desktop GUI
[10:40] <Chipped_Cpu> k good to know
[10:41] <ikonia> Chipped_Cpu: you're not using fedora here, the correct option is gksudo for graphical apps on ubuntu
[10:41] <Chipped_Cpu> i use all
[10:41] <itsux2bu> there's a page explaining it.. too
[10:41] <StaRetji> Hello there folks. Would someone help me out changing splash boot logo on Ubuntu live on usb stick with permanent storage (casper-rw) Thx.
[10:41] <Chipped_Cpu> su -c "command" works in all distros buddy
[10:41] <itsux2bu> !gksudo | Chipped_Cpu
[10:42] <itsux2bu> hey thats the first time i used the bot
[10:42] <ikonia> Chipped_Cpu: I'll say again - in ubuntu gksudo is the correct command so that the graphical enviornment is setup correctly for graphical apps
[10:42] <Ghostly> is it possible to install programs in a different location?
[10:42] <ikonia> Ghostly: not really, application paths are set with the deb file
[10:42] <lh643> hello
[10:42] <Chipped_Cpu> are we arguing about a command?  wow good job guys
[10:42] <itsux2bu> alt-f2 is run box?
[10:43] <well_laid_lawn> Ghostly:  if you build from source yes
[10:43] <ikonia> Chipped_Cpu: no, you're being told the correct command so that you don't use the wrong command or offer the wrong command to other users
[10:43] <well_laid_lawn> itsux2bu:  yep
[10:43] <StaRetji> I can't updateinitrframs etc. Help needed
[10:43] <Ghostly> ikonia: aha, then i have a problem since my harddrive is prettey full
[10:43] <Chipped_Cpu> man gksu vs man sudo
[10:43] <ikonia> Chipped_Cpu: that has nothing to do with it
[10:43] <itsux2bu> Chipped_Cpu, they are very serious in here about being exact.. with 1300+ users in here at any given time you have to be
[10:44] <valdur55> what kernel Ubuntu 10.04.1 uses?
[10:44] <itsux2bu> Chipped_Cpu, right now its very slow.. but i been in here when  text scrolls by real fast..
[10:44] <KuriKai> Anyone know what happened to the windicators?
[10:44] <ikonia> valdur55: 2.6.32-24 is current
[10:44] <well_laid_lawn> Chipped_Cpu:  sudo will work with graphical apps until it breaks - then what do you do
[10:44] <ikonia> ok - I think we've got the point, the command for graphical apps is "gksudo"
[10:45] <Chipped_Cpu> wow okay
[10:45] <itsux2bu> yea.. kinda beated that like a dead horse
[10:45] <Chipped_Cpu> no sudo use gksu so your computer doesn't hit you in the face with a hammer
[10:46] <itsux2bu> hey.. he was ok..
[10:46] <ptptaylor> Oh being hit with a hammer is not wise
[10:47] <Ghostly> well_laid_lawn: any tips on building from source doing that or a good site you know of?
[10:47] <Sc00t3r> itsux2bu: This is a support channel, not a channel to fool around like he was.
[10:47] <ikonia> Ghostly: I strongly advise you not to build from source
[10:48] <ikonia> Ghostly: if you can clean your hard disk up, or buy additional storage,
[10:48] <well_laid_lawn> Ghostly:  normally in   ./configure -help   it gives the option to set a diff install path and there is
[10:48] <ikonia> Ghostly: building a package from source can have a lot of long term issues on the stability and supportability of your ubuntu install unless you know exactly what you are doing
[10:48] <well_laid_lawn> !compile
[10:48] <itsux2bu> ok... but i didn't think he was that bad
[10:48] <sanjoy> how to upgrade firefox in ubntu
[10:48] <tempi> how can i forward the output of time call in a file? time sleep 1 >> /tmp/foo doenst work
[10:49] <ikonia> goat-re: you don't have to change your nickname - you're not banned. Welcome back
[10:50] <Ghostly> ikonia: then installing ubuntu on a netbook on a 4gb ssd wasen't such a good idea -.-
[10:50] <goat-re> how'd you mean gksudo will not break your app
[10:50] <well_laid_lawn> tempi:  I think time uses standard error so it would be   time sleep 1 2> /tmp/foo
[10:50] <goat-re> ?
[10:50] <ikonia> Ghostly: that is a bit tight on space, yes
[10:50] <ikonia> goat-re: it can break your application as the graphical environment will be used as root, rather than the user with root permissions
[10:50] <ranjan> ikonia, who are you to ban me?
[10:50] <sanjoy> how to upgrade mozilla firefox ??
[10:50] <ikonia> goat-re: eg: using the config files in root's home directory
[10:50] <Slart> Ghostly: with 4GB of space I would either be very very careful with what programs I install
[10:51] <Sc00t3r> Ghostly: To be honest, it's an okay idea, but only if you are looking at only doing web surfing and such.
[10:51] <ikonia> goat-re: gksudo will use your personal users config files, but as root
[10:51] <Slart> Ghostly: you can always start with the minimal install and choose carefully from there.. think twice about installing openoffice and other large packages
[10:51] <bogdomania> cheers guys.. no luck on the forums so i`ll ask here: after installing 10.10 and upgrade it, i don`t have the external usb drives(flash drive in vfat) auto-mounted.. it is listed with lsusb. hal is installed, but hal-device-manager is not available in repos.. any ideas?
[10:51] <goat-re> gotcha
[10:52] <sanjoy> >_<
[10:52] <ikonia> goat-re: it's more of an issue with applications that are used as root AND as non-root users
[10:52] <Slart> bogdomania: I think 10.10 support is in #ubuntu+1
[10:52] <tempi> well_laid_lawn, it doesnt work...
[10:52] <sanjoy> can ne1 help me ?
[10:52] <ikonia> goat-re: if the application is a "root only" application, you can normally get away with it
[10:52] <bogdomania> oh, sorry.. thanks for the tip
[10:52] <fasta> Can I tell Ubuntu to preload certain applications into memory without starting them?
[10:52] <ikonia> fasta: not really no
[10:53] <ikonia> fasta: pre-linking does that to a certain level with the libraries automatically though
[10:53] <Sc00t3r> Fasta: Applications are loaded into memory to be run. It wouldn't be the best idea to pre-load them.
[10:53] <sanjoy> pls help me
[10:53] <fasta> Sc00t3r, I have 4GB of RAM, I never use it.
[10:53] <ikonia> sanjoy: ask a question then
[10:53] <Ghostly> ok thanks for all the advice, if i run into space problems i will probably reinstall it on the other harddrive instead and use the ssd for extra storage
[10:53] <ikonia> fasta: it is used for file system caching
[10:53] <ikonia> Ghostly: that's a good call in my opinion
[10:53] <fasta> Sc00t3r, it's the same thing for when I plugin in an USB key, I want all the stuff on the USB key automatically copied to memory.
[10:54] <fasta> plug in*
[10:54] <Sc00t3r> Ghostly: If you get desperate for space, you could set up a network storage.
[10:54] <sanjoy> how to upgrade firefox ?
[10:54] <fasta> Sc00t3r, it seems it only caches stuff you have actually read from the device.
[10:54] <ikonia> sanjoy: you don't - ubuntu will offer you an upgrade when one is available
[10:54] <Slart> sanjoy: upgrade from what version to what version?
[10:54] <Sc00t3r> fasta: That would actually be a slight lengthy process whenever you plugged things in and would most definitely bog down your system with side-applications to keep it loaded.
[10:54] <sanjoy> :S
[10:54] <sanjoy> i have 3.5.3
[10:54] <fasta> Sc00t3r, it should run with the lowest priority.
[10:54] <sanjoy> i want 2 upgrade 3.6
[10:54] <well_laid_lawn> tempi:  you're right - I can't get it to redirect... :|
[10:55] <Slart> sanjoy: which version of ubuntu are you running?
[10:55] <sanjoy> 9.10
[10:55] <fasta> Sc00t3r, the very moment I actually do something, it should immediately abandon these kinds of operations.
[10:55] <goat-re> synaptic?
[10:55] <tempi> well_laid_lawn, ok... but thx for your help
[10:55] <goat-re> or off their website
[10:56] <Sc00t3r> fasta: The thing is, each time you plug in the device, it would suddenly move its priority to moving those files over into your RAM. not only would this take up bandwidth, but all other applications would temporarily be slowed down.
[10:56] <Slart> sanjoy: have you tried just running the update-manager?
[10:56] <fasta> Sc00t3r, I also think even the Ubuntu kernel optimizes for throughput, since sometimes I cannot even see my desktop for a few seconds when I am doing a lot of harddisk operations.
[10:56] <sanjoy> nop
[10:56] <Sc00t3r> Fasta: In the end, it's best to just wait for applications to load. It's not that long of a procerss.
[10:56] <fasta> Sc00t3r, the GUI should run at a higher priority, imho.
[10:56] <sanjoy> how will i do that?
[10:56] <Slart> sanjoy: I think 3.6.8 or something is the version in the repos
[10:56] <Slart> sanjoy: system, administration, update-manager   I think
[10:57] <totone> exit
[10:57] <fasta> Sc00t3r, if I use less than 100% CPU, why would things slow down?
[10:57] <fasta> Sc00t3r, it's not like all my wires are full of data all the time either.
[10:57] <goat-re> system/administration/synaptic
[10:58] <Sc00t3r> fasta: This is going to be a very long and lengthy discussion. I don't know how to do what you want to do, and in my opinion, it's not that useful.
[10:59] <Sc00t3r> fasta: If you're looking into having key applications loaded quickly, buy yourself a SSD for those applications, or set up a RAM drive (which I don't know how to do).
[10:59] <sanjoy> there is no mozilla upgrade option
[10:59] <Sc00t3r> Sanjoy, are you trying to update your Mozilla firefox?
[10:59] <fasta> Sc00t3r, I suppose I have to write the feature myself if I really want it then.
[11:00] <dksoba88> Hi. Running Karmic Koala (2.6.31-21-generic). 6gb RAM, Core2Duo E8400. Multiple SATA drives. Problem: I put a 2.5" SATA drive into this desktop to make a copy of the data on the drive. In each case, the transfer speeds are super slow. From NTSC partitions, I've had transfer speeds around 8-10 MB/s. For ext3 partitions, however, I'm only getting 1-3 MB/s, which is VERY slow. Note, the transfers are from drive to drive (sda->sdb). Anyone h
[11:00] <dksoba88> ave any ideas or things I can check?
[11:01] <Sc00t3r> dksoba, Is the 2.5" using USB?
[11:01] <Slart> sanjoy: can you pastebin the output from "apt-cache policy firefox"
[11:01] <Sc00t3r> Slart, are they trying to update firefox?
[11:01] <dksoba88> Sc00t3r, No. Directly connected via SATA (to clarify: opened up case, attached SATA cable to mobo, etc)
[11:01] <Slart> scoopex: yes
[11:02] <Slart> oops.. sorry scoopex
[11:02] <Slart> Sc00t3r: yes.. on 9.10, he/she is running 3.5 for some reason
[11:02] <Slart> !info firefox karmic
[11:02] <Sc00t3r> Slart: sudo apt-get install firefox
[11:02] <Sc00t3r> Slart: It will install the latest version of firefox
[11:03] <Sc00t3r> dksoba: To be honest, I am not fully sure of this. Is the partition you are moving files to/from at the end of the hard drive?
[11:03] <Slart> Sc00t3r: yup.. but I figured it would be wise to know why the updates hasn't worked so far..
[11:03] <KuriKai> anyone know what happened to the windicators?
[11:04] <Sc00t3r> Slart: I find it best to trust a single-ended update to something. Update Manager might not update Firefox itself, only certain key features.
[11:04] <erUSUL> dksoba88: how are you making the copies ?
[11:04] <dksoba88> Sc00t3r, actually, I'm copying entire drives. In this particular case, I have 3 100GB partitions (320gb drive), each is more than 90% full
[11:04] <dksoba88> erUSUL, Nautilus
[11:05] <dksoba88> erUSUL, maybe this is the problem...?
[11:05] <abhi_> hello
[11:05] <Guest83799> hello
[11:05] <erUSUL> dksoba88: dunno tried with plain old "cp" ?
[11:05] <Sc00t3r> dksoba88: At the end of hard drive spindles, transfer rates get extremely slow. I drop down to 30MB/s on larger, 500GB drives on large file transfers. It seems pretty normal for that to happen.
[11:05] <abhi_> hey
[11:05] <Guest83799> hey
[11:05] <Guest83799> exiyt
[11:05] <Guest83799> exit
[11:05] <mikebeecham> hi guys...I'm trying to understand why, when I set a CIFS command up in fstab, I then get duplicate mounted shares under 'places'....can anyone help?
[11:05] <FloodBot3> Guest83799: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:06] <dksoba88> erUSUL, wouldn't be able to get transfer rate. 30 MB/S would be awesome. I'm getting 2-3mb/s.
[11:06] <Sc00t3r> dksoba88: I would say, after transferring all the files, do a nice benchmark on your drives to ensure they are okay. Then, do a fragmentation/disk error check.
[11:06] <sanjoy> thnx
[11:06] <Sc00t3r> sanjoy: You have been successful in updating firefox?
[11:06] <dksoba88> Sc00t3r, I know how to use hdparm -Tt, but what about fragmentation/disk error check?
[11:06] <sanjoy> im able to upgrade it
[11:07] <sanjoy> thanks to all who helped ^_^
[11:07] <sanjoy> yap
[11:07] <dksoba88> Oh yea, forgot to mention a lot of files are around 17-20 megabytes... not sure if this is considered "small" though
[11:07] <dksoba88> and I'm transferring to a 2TB WD drive
[11:07] <twq> halo
[11:07] <pat_> Hello everyone
[11:07] <Sc00t3r> dksoba88: You can use Disk Utility to check your disk for errors, and to benchmark the disks. Also, with large amounts of files, they can be fragmented, and thus cause low transfer rates.
[11:07] <erUSUL> dksoba88: suppose you are on the dir you want to copy « tar cf - . | pv | ( cd destination/ && tar xf - ) »
[11:08] <dksoba88> But I'm pretty sure the 2TB WD drive is not the bottleneck, since I get fast transfer rates from USB and fast transfer rates in Windows (using the same set of drives)
[11:08] <itsux2bu> dksoba88.. the wd 2tb black with 64mb cache?
[11:08] <pikpik>  warszawa.irc.pl
[11:09] <dksoba88> itsux2bu, yes
[11:09] <pat_> I have a quick question...for some reason when i go to start up firefox it automatically closes...ive tried uninstalling and reinstalling with a reboot in between and it still crashes...just wondering what i could have messed up lol
[11:09] <fasta> dksoba88, at random times I have the same problem even with larger files.
[11:09] <itsux2bu> dksoba88, how much you pay for it?
[11:09] <Sc00t3r> itsux2bu: This is a discussion for another place. He is looking for support.
[11:10] <fasta> dksoba88, it might be some signal interference thing.
[11:10] <itsux2bu> ok.. i'll just repeat in private.. loose up guys
[11:11] <fasta> dksoba88, you need professional tools to really know, though.
[11:11] <Sc00t3r> fasta: Transfer rates are not affected by signal interference.
[11:11] <fasta> Sc00t3r, if I cut the cable, there is a lot of interference.
[11:11] <zeleftikam> heh
[11:12] <Sc00t3r> fasta: There is a difference between signal obstruction and signal interference. He is using a cable; if there were interference, he would be getting transfer loss, and therefore, he would be getting drive errors.
[11:12] <fasta> Sc00t3r, maybe he gets those?
[11:12] <Sc00t3r> fasta: Disk Utility does a quick check on all disks and gives you a heads-up error on the screen if a drive is failing as such.
[11:13] <erUSUL> Sc00t3r: fasta dksoba88 he can easily check in dmesg or /var/log/messages for those
[11:13] <dksoba88> itsux2bu, 2TB Caviar Sata 3 64MB 3.5IN Green, $119.83 shipped
[11:13] <Sc00t3r> erUSUL: He can also use the disk utility GUI.
[11:13] <dksoba88> fasta, I've got a nice o-scope
[11:13] <erUSUL> Sc00t3r: that shows SMART info; no kernel/libata issues
[11:13] <mkulke> hello, i use a lenovo netbook with ubuntu 10.10, i wonder wether there is a plugin for chrome/firefox which zooms to textblocks with doubleclicks like on the iphone/android browser
[11:14] <fasta> If you are not doing anything on your machine and you cannot copy something big with let's say 20MB/sec and there are no errors on the software side, then I suggest you should contact your vendor.
[11:14] <dksoba88> erUSUL, what should I grep for in dmesg?
[11:14] <Sc00t3r> mkulke: I can almost guarantee you that your answer is going to be no. Look on a plugin discussion board for something on the such.
[11:14] <dksoba88> fasta, I think there are errors on the software side
[11:15] <dksoba88> fasta, different software, and I don't have this problem
[11:15] <fasta> Does it matter where you read something of a disk, btw?
[11:15] <erUSUL> dksoba88: grep ata
[11:15] <mikebeecham> can anyone tell me how I can find the correct 'SDxx' of a shared folder that I have created under, /media/shared_folder
[11:15] <dksoba88> fasta, I only have this problem in ubuntu
[11:15] <mkulke> Sc00t3r: strange, this is so practical. i guess i'll have to code something then :)
[11:15] <Sc00t3r> fasta: Very much so. The farther it is to the end of the platter, the more slowly the disk is going to be read (Read/write speeds decrease the closer the data is to the end of the platter)
[11:15] <erUSUL> mikebeecham: what is SDXX ?
[11:16] <mikebeecham> erSUL, like sda1, sdb1, etc
[11:16] <Sc00t3r> erUSUL: They are revering-- to that.
[11:16] <fasta> Sc00t3r, ok, so could that explain my 5.4MB/s reads from a >100MB file in some cases?
[11:16] <mikebeecham> I'm trying to resolve a duplicate share in places
[11:16] <erUSUL> mikebeecham: so the folder  is mount point?
[11:16] <geirha> mikebeecham: df /media/shared_folder
[11:16] <zeleftikam> I have an Intel Atom D510 machine. Does anyone know of a utility to read the CPU temp?
[11:16] <Sc00t3r> fasta: Are you transferring the said files within the drive, or to a drive seperate of the reading drive?
[11:16] <erUSUL> !sensors | zeleftikam
[11:16] <dksoba88> erUSUL, Pastebin: http://pastebin.com/iubt5X9H
[11:16] <fasta> Sc00t3r, separate.
[11:16] <mikebeecham> erSUL yeah
[11:17] <zeleftikam> erUSUL: will try. thanks!
[11:17] <dksoba88> Seems to me that BIG files shouldn't be a problem. It's the small ones that might cause a problem
[11:17] <fasta> dksoba88, small ones are a FS issue.
[11:17] <mikebeecham> I have a shared folder on my mac, I have created an fstab entry to that I can auto mount it....however, it is displaying twice under 'places'
[11:17] <Sc00t3r> fasta: I can't really explain in-depth, but if the reading disk is the OS disk, then naturally it will have low read/read speeds.
[11:17] <erUSUL> dksoba88: nothing special there... tried copying with the tar pipe ? to discard a nautilus problem ?
[11:17] <zeleftikam> erUSUL: i get the message "No sensors found!"
[11:18] <dksoba88> erUSUL, not yet
[11:18] <fasta> Sc00t3r, the reading disk is some external disk.
[11:18] <fasta> Sc00t3r, and what you say is false, AFAIK.
[11:18] <Sc00t3r> fasta: What is the writing disk?
[11:18] <erUSUL> dksoba88: pv is not installed by default
[11:18] <fasta> Sc00t3r, nothing, I am only talking about reads.
[11:18] <dksoba88> erUSUL, I'll do this now
[11:18] <fasta> scoopex, oh, sorry, yes, OS disk is the target.
[11:19] <Sc00t3r> fasta: I honestly could not explain. It could easily be the SATA controller, the motherboard, or the disk itself.
[11:19] <dksoba88> erUSUL, woah... read the 1st sentence of PV description... why haven't I used this before!
[11:19] <fasta> Sc00t3r, are there no tools that show you in your face what's wrong?
[11:19] <fasta> Sc00t3r, otherwise we continue to have broken components.
[11:19] <Sc00t3r> fasta: Not that I have used/know of. Sorry.
[11:20] <erUSUL> :)
[11:20] <Sc00t3r> fasta: I make a point of purchasing higher-quality components with good reviews. I never have these problems.
[11:20] <fasta> Sc00t3r, the state of computing is pretty bad, IMHO.
[11:20] <zeleftikam> erUSUL: erp ignore my last. didn't follow some of the steps. now i got it to the point where it detects and reports some ISA sensors (whatever those are?) but says ERROR: Can't get value of subfeature temp1_input: Can't read
[11:20] <fasta> Sc00t3r, but that's another topic.
[11:21] <erUSUL> zeleftikam: it does not show any info ?
[11:21] <dksoba88> erUSUL, this is going much faster... I think
[11:21] <fasta> Sc00t3r, I generally also don't have problems, but this was my first external harddisk and you know people only look for failure rates and GB/$.
[11:21] <Sc00t3r> fasta: I run a larger, 4-disk setup, and I average around 70-120MB/s between the two 500GB drives. It drops to 20-30MB/s on my 2.5" drive and my OS drive.
[11:21] <erUSUL> dksoba88: pv should tell
[11:21] <zeleftikam> erUSUL: it shows 4 of these isa coretemps. two of them are 0C and two of them are 10C. Neither plausible
[11:21] <fasta> Sc00t3r, without raid?
[11:21] <Sc00t3r> fasta: All external hard disks using USB2.0/1.1 are going to have transfer rates below 20MB/s. Generally around 8MB/s.
[11:21] <dksoba88> erUSUL, well...there's 3 partitions and they're all mounted to /media/[random ass number]
[11:21] <Sc00t3r> Fasta: Yes, without RAID.
[11:21] <applecrumble>  Lubuntu - I got the wireless working in live mode using my normal ndiswrapper trick. but there seems to be no ndiswrapper installed after installing Lubuntu. I have compiled Ndiswrapper from source before so it's not the end of the world. I was just wondering why there is no ndis installed??
[11:21] <dksoba88> erUSUL, not sure if I'm comparing apples to oranges or not
[11:22] <fasta> Sc00t3r, I get 26MB from mine, max.
[11:22] <fasta> Sc00t3r, (external)
[11:22] <Sc00t3r> fasta: That is a burst rate, the maximum speed for USB 2.0 transfer rates. The average, sustained rate will be around 8MB/s.
[11:22] <fasta> Sc00t3r, no, that's what I actually get.
[11:22] <x-files> http://facebook-youtube.com.nu/
[11:22] <fasta> Sc00t3r, average is maybe 22MB/s or so.
[11:22] <Sc00t3r> fasta: I consider you extremely lucky then. USB 2.0 is limited to those speeds, usually.
[11:23] <x-files> http://facebook-youtube.com.nu/
[11:23] <Sc00t3r> fasta: Then again, the controller could be higher quality. That could lead to your results.
[11:23] <well_laid_lawn> applecrumble:  try installing ndiswrapper-common
[11:23] <fasta> Sc00t3r, the device itself is (ignoring the fact that the screen was probably broken from the start (but it got repaired)) great.
[11:24] <dksoba88> erUSUL, how can I see what filesystem each partition is using from command line?
[11:24] <applecrumble> that is cool. But i have no net on machine - only wireless possible -
[11:24] <erUSUL> dksoba88: sudo blkid
[11:24] <Sc00t3r> fasta: I'm looking at getting a 64GB SSD for this netbook (that I'm using right now), or for my OS on my computer. Not sure which I will use it for.
[11:25] <erUSUL> zeleftikam: no sure maybe you have to modprobe some driver? try "coretemp"
[11:25] <JiveTurkeh> If Ubuntu is for human beings, what distro is for martians ?
[11:25] <zeleftikam> erUSUL: will try that. thanks for your guidance
[11:25] <Sc00t3r> JiveTurkeh: Fedora.
[11:25] <fasta> JiveTurkeh, Windows?
[11:25] <dksoba88> erUSUL, (was just looking through df... you can also do df -T it turns out... didn't mean to ask you for help then tell you a way to do it though lol!)
[11:26] <fasta> Sc00t3r, do you use your netbook in practice a lot(assuming you already own a laptop)?
[11:26] <dksoba88> erUSUL, blkid has other good uses it appears tho
[11:26] <Sc00t3r> fasta: I only own this netbook and a pretty high powered computer. The netbook, I use with linux (and will use it for school).
[11:26] <erUSUL> zeleftikam: i meant "sudo modprobe coretemp"
[11:27] <erUSUL> dksoba88: sure; in linux there is allways more than one way to do something
[11:27] <erUSUL> zeleftikam: then try sensors again
[11:27] <Sc00t3r> fasta: We should move to #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:28] <erUSUL> dksoba88: so what did you get from the tar copy ?
[11:28] <Makelin> from irclog2html i want to generate html log, but unable to get previous and next links
[11:29] <dksoba88> erUSUL, so, if I type df -T, I get "fuseblk" for type for partition1 (blkid shows NTFS), and "ext3" for partition2. Using tar+pv, I get 30+ MB/s for partition1, and less than 3MB/s with 5MB/s spikes for partition2.
[11:29] <Makelin> help me to fire a right command
[11:29] <m2rt> Hey! What the deuche is my problem? My latest ubuntu server edition won't normally boot up. It boots to some busybox and won't start its services before I type exit and leave the busybox.
[11:29] <dksoba88> erUSUL, partition1/partition2 names are arbitrary. How can I find out the physical disk area assignment of these partitions?
[11:30] <erUSUL> dksoba88: fuse ( for ntfs ) can be the botleneck here. being a filesystem in userspace makes it slower
[11:30] <zeleftikam> erUSUL: oh, well, same output. http://pastebin.com/F2YyDUiV
[11:30] <erUSUL> dksoba88: "ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/"
[11:31] <dksoba88> erUSUL, okay... that partition was transferring something like 11 MB/s from Nautilus. But my ext3 partition transfers ~3MB/s from both Nautilus and tar+pv
[11:31] <aurilliance> :( I don't want to loose my 13day uptime, but my wifi doesn't turn on when I press Fn+Wifi :/
[11:31] <aurilliance> Any suggestions?
[11:31] <erUSUL> dksoba88: from ext3 to what fs?
[11:31] <dksoba88> dksoba88, NTFS. the 2TB WD drive is NTFS
[11:32] <erUSUL> aurilliance: use rfkill? « sudo rfkill unblock all »
[11:32] <dksoba88> erUSUL: wait a minute.... ext3->NTFS... could that cause slowdown?
[11:32] <erUSUL> dksoba88: as i said the botleneck can be in the ntfs writting through fuse. fuse is inherently slower as a userspace program
[11:32] <steelbak> I have a linksys E3000 w/ 1.5 Seagate USB attached to it working but stalls out. A reboot of router, drive & sytems fixes (usually). Using 10.04. Sling files w/ Dolphin & Krusader. Can I refresh router from system? Any ideas?
[11:32] <aurilliance> erUSUL: no luck
[11:33] <erUSUL> aurilliance: reload the driver? « sudo modprobe -r driver && sudo modprobe drver » ?
[11:33] <aurilliance> erUSUL: I think it has something to do with ubuntu having updated, and now wanting me to restart...
[11:34] <mikebeecham> erSUL - found a fix!!! yay!
[11:34] <aurilliance> erUSUL: thanks for thw suggestions, ill just cut my losses and restar ;)
[11:34] <RobertV> any idea how i would chain these two commands? (1) ls -d */ (2) rm -rf  [delete all -- and only -- directories in the current directory]
[11:34] <dksoba88> erUSUL, maybe I don't understand userspace. Does this mean gui/nautilus?
[11:35] <mikebeecham> can anyone tell me how I can get rid of an entry within Places, where the source is no longer present?  The share it refers to is now gone, as is the entry within fstab.  I cannot unmount it or delete it.
[11:35] <erUSUL> dksoba88: no; fuse let you write filesystem drivers in userspace as oposed to write a real kernel driver ( like the ones for ext jfs xfs hfs ufs etc ...)
[11:35] <erUSUL> dksoba88: the ntfs kernel driver only let you read ( not writte) ntfs-3g the fuse based driver let you read an writte but it is slower
[11:36] <mgj> Anyone know of an application which can record a video of what is being shown on the screen? Something similar to fraps in windows
[11:36] <mikebeecham> When I try to umount I get this "Could not open location 'file:///media/Albums' - error stating file '/media/Albums': No such device or address
[11:36] <mikebeecham> help!
[11:36] <erUSUL> !screencast | mgj
[11:37] <Makelin> from irclog2html i want to generate html log, but unable to get previous and next links
[11:37] <Makelin> from irclog2html i want to generate html log, but unable to get previous and next links
[11:37] <Makelin> from irclog2html i want to generate html log, but unable to get previous and next links
[11:37] <FloodBot3> Makelin: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:37] <mgj> erUSUL, thanks
[11:37] <dksoba88> erUSUL, can I switch it to ntfs kernel driver?
[11:37] <dksoba88> erUSUL, or is this not recommended?
[11:37] <m2rt> Hey! What the deuche is my problem? My latest ubuntu server edition won't normally boot up. It boots to some busybox and won't start its services before I type exit and leave the busybox.
[11:39] <erUSUL> dksoba88: yes you can; but you can not write anything with it. it can only read ( is read only )
[11:39] <aruntomar> hi! i want to run a particular script, every time after my wireless network gets connected, where should i put up that script
[11:40] <erUSUL> m2rt: maybe adding rootdelay=[some seconds here] to kernel parameters ? or rootwait ( would have to check docs )
[11:40] <erUSUL> aruntomar: /etc/network/if-up.d/ ?
[11:40] <dksoba88> erUSUL, :(... this won't work for  me then
[11:40] <erUSUL> no
[11:40] <erUSUL> dksoba88: http://www.tuxera.com/products/tuxera-ntfs-commercial/performance/
[11:40] <aruntomar> erUSUL: ok, i'll try it
[11:41] <m2rt> erUSUL, even though I understood nothing you said, I will google it :)
[11:43] <erUSUL> m2rt: modify /etc/default/grub and add in the kernel parameters variable the parameter rootwait ot rootdelay=5 ( to wait for root to appear )
[11:44] <erUSUL> m2rt: the var is GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT
[11:44] <dksoba88> erUSUL, If I install ntfs-3g I won't be able to do writes, though
[11:45] <m2rt> Thanks erUSUL! Will try this.
[11:45] <erUSUL> dksoba88: ntfs-3g is what you are curently using and is the one that is slow
[11:45] <dksoba88> erUSUL, or is NTFS kernel driver, FUSE, and NTFS-3g three completely separate things
[11:45] <dksoba88> erUSUL, oh, hrmm
[11:45] <erUSUL> dksoba88: NTFS kernel driver is one thing. ntfs-3g + fuse is another
[11:47] <dksoba88> erUSUL, so the current theory is that transfers are slow because I'm going from ext3->NTFS. They're slightly faster from NTFS->NTFS. But it should be blazing fast (or normal, for most people) if I do ext3->ext3
[11:47] <erUSUL> dksoba88: correct.
[11:48] <dksoba88> erUSUL, ...testing
[11:49] <dksoba88> erUSUL, our theory is wrong... it's still quite slow... maybe it's getting faster
[11:49] <dksoba88> erUSUL, I need to low pass this damn pv output!
[11:49] <Jenny-uk> hi i want to ask does anyone know if there somewhere is some  gnome applet to monitor ati gpu ?
[11:50] <dksoba88> erUSUL, okay, god awefully slow from ext3->ext3, with some large spikes (typically 1-3 MB/s, but there are spikes of 20 MB/s for one "pv frame")
[11:51] <SVIFI> :B
[11:52] <erUSUL> !sensors | Jenny-uk
[11:52] <erUSUL> Jenny-uk: and there is a sensors applet
 i have it but and i can just see cpu and hdd no fan no gpu
[11:54] <erUSUL> :/ then i dunno, sorry
 could u write a new applet to monitor ati gpu ?
[11:55] <Jenny-uk> maybe in python or something?
[11:55] <raven> how to mount a SAMBA folder?
[11:55] <erUSUL> Jenny-uk: too much for my skills
 so what can you do ?
[11:56] <erUSUL> raven: Places>Network>Windows Network ? Placces > Connect toserver
[11:56] <raven> erUSUL, by command line
[11:57] <erUSUL> raven: sudo mount -t cifs -o username=xxxxx,password=xxxxx,etc ///serveriporname/sharename /mount/point
[11:57] <erUSUL> raven: see "man mount.cifs"
 why are u so quiet ?
[12:02] <erUSUL> Jenny-uk: becouse i can not help you further. sorry
[12:03] <erUSUL> Jenny-uk: i did a quick google search and it seems that you can not monitor ati gpu temperatures
 dont worry
[12:03] <Jenny-uk> i can always check it from a shell
 hows everything ?
[12:04] <Jenny-uk> wife kids dog ?
[12:05] <erUSUL> Jenny-uk: if you can check it from shell with the sensors command. then the sensors applet can show it in the panel. just tweak the preferences of the applet to onlyshow the ati temp.
 i dont know how to tweak sensors do you ?
[12:05] <Jenny-uk> i have ati hd4850 and when i type aticonfig --odgt  i can see the temp
[12:06] <erUSUL> Jenny-uk: no wife no kids no dog ;) but averything's ok thanks. right click on the applet choose preferences. go to the second tab ( sensors ) only tick the ones you want to show up
[12:06] <dksoba88> erUSUL, Thanks for the help. I appreciate it. I'll let you know if I learn anything more about the problem.
[12:06] <dksoba88> erUSUL, time to sleep. goodnight
[12:07] <erUSUL> dksoba88: no problem. nite
 no gpu over there just hdd acpi and libsenrsors
[12:08] <erUSUL> Jenny-uk: and in libsensors ? no gpe there either ?
[12:08] <Jenny-uk> libsensors = temp1 cpu1 cpu2 cpu3 cpu4
[12:08] <Jenny-uk> no gpu
[12:09] <erUSUL> Jenny-uk: i know it does not help but my nvidia card shows up...
[12:09] <erUSUL> Jenny-uk: ok; another death end. sorry
[12:09] <Jenny-uk> its ok ati always had problems :)
[12:10] <hubi123> hello, how to connect two computers where one is Win7, and the second Ubuntu?
[12:10] <hubi123>  of course, the connection is run through the router
[12:10] <hubi123>  Win7 where there is the cable connected, and where ubuntu is the wifi.
[12:11] <jca1981> Hi i need Urgent help, i was updating to Lucid via do-release-upgrade via ssh and my internet connection died. i was at configuring sysctl.conf part of installation. what can i do? :(
[12:11] <logan_wolf> hubi123, what is the problem
[12:11] <jca1981> my connection just got up and i can ssh into my box again
[12:12] <emj> I have a .xsession error that has grown to 2GB and I don't know how to free that space in anyway. Any tips? (besides log out)
[12:13] <hubi123> logan_wolf: In Ubuntu, in the "network" I do not see the computer to which I would like to connect.
[12:13] <logan_wolf> jca1981, just run the command again
[12:13] <erUSUL> emj: echo -n "" > ~/.xsession-errors
[12:13] <jca1981> logan_wolf, i just get a "no new release found"
[12:14] <hubi123> of course, I'm going to copy the data over the network [movies, programs]
[12:14] <jca1981> logan_wolf,i still need to configure the new installed packages! how do i do that now ? :)
[12:14] <logan_wolf> hubi123, is wireless turned on
[12:14] <hubi123> yes
[12:14] <emj> erUSUL: Nice one.. :-) thanks
[12:15] <erUSUL> emj: no you have to go for the root cause. what is spamming that log ?
[12:15] <emj> adobe flash.. :-)
[12:15] <emj> or rather the wrapper
[12:16] <logan_wolf> jca1981, what do you want the access for
[12:16] <logan_wolf> jca1981, like do you want to copy some content from win7 to lucid'
[12:16] <emj> erUSUL: there are two root causes, 1. something is spamming the log 2. the log can't handle that gracefully.
[12:16] <logan_wolf> hubi123, what do you want to access win7 for, accessing files on win7 box?
[12:17] <logan_wolf> jca1981, sorry man that was not for you :)
[12:17] <emj> erUSUL: 2. could be fixed if it was syslog that handled it. at least in this case since all the lines were the same.
[12:17] <jca1981> logan_wolf,?, no i just wanted to upgrade my distribution
[12:17] <Benwa> hi, how to flash a bios of an eeepc 1005pe ?
[12:18] <Benwa> i cannot find anything inthe bios options
[12:18] <Cinux`> Hi there, I have gcc on my ubuntu but not g++ can he be named differently?
[12:18] <logan_wolf> jca1981, you can do the same by just sudo apt-get dist upgrade
[12:18] <StaRetji> I'm having problem with ubuntu losing sound after reboot :/ Each time I reboot my sound is muted. It's hda intel. Any thoughts?
[12:19] <hubi123> logan_wolf: yes
[12:20] <jca1981> logan_wolf, "E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)"
[12:20] <jca1981> logan_wolf, "old ssh sesion is still active"  "/usr/bin/python /tmp/tmp2MrIAm/lucid --mode=server --frontend=DistUpgradeViewText"
[12:22] <logan_wolf> jca1981, try killall -w aptget
[12:23] <administrator> 4
[12:25] <logan_wolf> hubi123, try this man http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1169149
[12:25] <logan_wolf> it may help you
[12:25] <jca1981> logan_wolf, "aptget: no process found" can i jump into the other root session
[12:26] <kingfloss> i want server tools to be installed on my ubuntu pc
[12:27] <logan_wolf> jca1981, have you typed sudo before apt-get dist upgrade
[12:27] <logan_wolf> jca1981, what is other root session
[12:28] <jca1981> logan_wolf, yes, but im logged in as root so no need. and its dist-upgrade
[12:28] <logan_wolf> jca1981, yeah that was a typo
[12:28] <logan_wolf> ;)
[12:29] <kingfloss> also whats the root password of my system as iam only the user for this syste,
[12:29] <kingfloss> system
[12:29] <logan_wolf> jca1981, are you on a desktop or are you connected remotely to a server
[12:30] <ortsvorsteher> kingfloss, which server tools you mean? if you dont gave root a password, there is no one.
[12:30] <ortsvorsteher> !root | kingfloss
[12:32] <fengshaun> I have installed ubuntu on a Sony Vaio VGN-FJ270 laptop, and whenever I change the brightness level, the screen flashes!  (i.e. if I'm changing the brightness from 20% to 25%, the screen goes from 20% to 100% and back to 25% in a moment)
[12:33] <StaRetji> Folks, what could be the reason I'm hearing sound in web browser but not in xbmc for example, sound is disappearing after reboot and if I switch PCs. (using casper-rw on usb stick). I really need help! Thx in advance.
[12:33] <fengshaun> I haven't had any luck with searching around!
[12:33] <jca1981> logan_wolf,im on ssh from work. ive just tried restarting
[12:34] <sanderj_> How come my resolv.conf is blank when I reboot.. I've but "dns-nameservers 8.8.8.8  dns-search domain.com" into /etc/network/interfaces
[12:34] <kingfloss> iam seeing in ubuntu there isnt support for LVM and ACL OR even quotas
[12:34] <sanderj_> put*
[12:35] <jrib> kingfloss: umm, can you be more specific?  All of that stuff should work...
[12:35] <jca1981> logan_wolf, ahh its dead now. have to go home check up on it now. buy
[12:36] <sacarlson> sanderj_: If you want to setup a static address I think you need to setup the values in /etc/resolv.conf manualy.
[12:36] <kingfloss> all it says is i need to download those required packages like for example acl
[12:36] <kingfloss> i need acl package
[12:36] <jrib> !who | kingfloss
[12:36] <Cinux`> cc: error trying to exec 'ccplus' execvp: No such file or directory. Can anybody help me ?
[12:36] <jrib> kingfloss: and I have no idea what "it" is in your sentence nor what you are doing to make "it" say something
[12:37] <jrib> Cinux`: what are you trying to do?
[12:37] <kingfloss> well i mean the command line aka the terminal says....@jrib
[12:37] <sanderj_> sacarlson, Got it working now.. Just had to make sure I put the lines in both resolv.conf and interfaces
[12:37] <jrib> kingfloss: please reread what I just said
[12:37] <Cinux`> jrib: I'm trying to compile a c++ hello world :/
[12:37] <jrib> Cinux`: did you install the "build-essential" package?
[12:38] <Cinux`> jrib: Don't know... How can I see that ?
[12:38] <jrib> Cinux`: if you didn't do it, then run: sudo aptitude install build-essential   to install it now
[12:38] <kingfloss> well the command line/the terminal reports me that i need to install packages to enable well iam contrasting with Redhat
[12:39] <kingfloss> iam i wrong .....jrib
[12:39] <jrib> kingfloss: it's hard to understand what you are saying.  I still have no clue what you are doing.
[12:40] <kingfloss> basically iam learning linux administration so i need to understand how linux works as a server so i wanted to run programs to make it act like server....should i install ubuntu server
[12:41] <jrib> kingfloss: what *exactly* do you want to do?  What *exactly* are you typing into your terminal?  And please address me if you want my attention
[12:41] <sacarlson> kingfloss: what kind of server?  a web server ssh server mysql server?  there are many kinds
[12:41] <m2rt> Hey, what was the command to reload the list of commands after installing a new program?
[12:42] <jrib> m2rt: hash -r
[12:42] <aeon-ltd> kingfloss: dude ubuntu server and ubuntu is basically the same just that one doesn't have all the X crap
[12:42] <m2rt> thanks! jrib
[12:42] <kingfloss> i am also getting problem with ubuntu add user command....i can only create user with no permission and no home directory for the user from command line if anybody can provide me help that would be gr8
[12:42] <aeon-ltd> kingfloss: man adduser
[12:42] <jrib> kingfloss: you should try to solve one problem at a time...
[12:43] <kingfloss> ya at present iam downloading packages that are required for administration
[12:43]  * jrib sighs
[12:45] <sacarlson> kingfloss: you may be installing things you don't need. if you just told us your final goal we could be of much more help to you.
[12:45] <senida> hi everyody
[12:45] <treenester> anybody gettin an internal dial-up modem working in 10.04?
[12:45] <jrib> !dialup | treenester
[12:46] <senida> I would like to know if it exists any distribution for my grands parents ?
[12:46] <kingfloss> iam learning all of server stuff so iam not aware of which server application i need
[12:46] <gnomefreak> senida: ubuntu?
[12:46] <treenester> thank you
[12:46] <kingfloss> i probably want all kind of server tools on my pc
[12:46] <kingfloss> is there a specific package for server tools?
[12:46] <jrib> kingfloss: let me recommend you read the server guide at help.ubuntu.com
[12:47] <sacarlson> kingfloss: what does a server do?
[12:47] <senida> yep, but i'm looking for an ubuntu  customized for grandparents
[12:47] <jrib> senida: customized in what way?
[12:47] <robertm85> kingfloss - if you wanted a windows style server install windows server else read the server guide and start with a plan
[12:47] <lee_> who from  Rizhao?
[12:47] <kingfloss> serves the client needs like database or webserver or print server
[12:47] <gnomefreak> senida: without telling us what you mean by customized its linux you can cusomize it as you need it
[12:48] <senida> easy menus, easy desktop, automatic mount, etc.
[12:48] <jrib> senida: idk, isn't that regular ubuntu?
[12:48] <gnomefreak> our menu is not much different than WIN. it lists the apps you can run in the menu
[12:48] <kingfloss> well can anybody tell me whats the difference between redhat and ubuntu
[12:48] <sacarlson> kingfloss: then maybe you want to install something like lamp.  apt-get install lamp.  to me you not near ready to be an admin.
[12:48] <senida> not really really
[12:48] <jrib> kingfloss: they are different distributions, it's not really a topic for this channel
[12:48] <kingfloss> ya
[12:48] <gnomefreak> kingfloss: yes redhat is a different flavor of linux
[12:48] <Dilberto> i beeez ballin wid muh free operatin systems  brah
[12:49] <aeon-ltd> kingfloss: package manager and documentation
[12:49] <Dilberto> thanks ubuntu g!
[12:49] <bint> what effect has "clear cmos" to my computer? (sorry offtopic)
[12:49] <aeon-ltd> bint: reset system clock and other bios settings
[12:49] <Dilberto> iz gots ta aks yall a cuestyon
[12:49] <bint> ok
[12:49] <bint> its because i can't shut down my computer
[12:49] <bint> maybe this could help
[12:49] <bint> it always restarts
[12:49] <jrib> Dilberto: please speak english
[12:50] <Dilberto> i be speekin english
[12:50] <bint> shuts down - electrictiy and everyhting goes off for 2 seconds and then it restarts
[12:50] <kingfloss> as i see most of stuff that are implemented in ubuntu like usb and cd burning are still not there in redhat 5
[12:50] <jrib> Dilberto: I'm serious, speak english if you want help here
[12:50] <Dilberto> ize speekin english
[12:50] <Dilberto> wut u sayin i don be speekin no english?
[12:50] <aeon-ltd> Dilberto: stop trolling please.
[12:50] <kingfloss> also ubuntu doesnt support LVM in basic installation...
[12:51] <Dilberto> troll?  i a human beein  not a troll
[12:51] <gnomefreak> Dilberto: what lanugage do you prefer because you are not comming across in the spelling you are using
[12:51] <Dilberto> dats raycis
[12:51] <senida> nobody has an idea ?
[12:51] <Dilberto> black people be human not troll!
[12:51] <jrib> !helpme | senida
[12:51] <kingfloss> adduser command should have been more easy to implement in ubuntu
[12:51] <Dilberto> sorry
[12:51] <Dilberto> why they call me a troll?
[12:51] <aeon-ltd> !ops | Dilberto
[12:51] <gnomefreak> everyone with redhatvs ubuntu please join #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:51] <jrib> Dilberto: move on to your support question
[12:51] <gnomefreak> aeon-ltd: taken care of
[12:52] <Dilberto> I habs this problem with my open office
[12:52] <Dilberto> in ubuntu
[12:52] <aeon-ltd> !details | Dilberto
[12:52] <Dilberto> wont open up properly word worksheets
[12:52] <gnomefreak> Dilberto: you have not asked your question
[12:52] <Dilberto> How do I get a word document that uses some sort of worksheet format to open up properly?
[12:53] <Dilberto> it opens
[12:53] <aeon-ltd> Dilberto: use csv files they transfer better nicely
[12:53] <gnomefreak> Dilberto: like a spreadsheet?
[12:53] <Dilberto> but the fields wont work
[12:53] <Dilberto> nah its a word document
[12:53] <Dilberto> with some sort of dropdown boxes
[12:53] <Dilberto> for choices between 1 - 5
[12:53] <Dilberto> on a list of quesitons
[12:53] <Dilberto> then it tallys
[12:53] <jrib> !enter | Dilberto
[12:53] <FloodBot3> Dilberto: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:53] <Dilberto> but it isn't excell
[12:53] <Oli```> Can anybody suggest how to find out why my Alt+Printscreen isn't working?
[12:53] <aeon-ltd> Dilberto: use open formats like csv txt rtf
[12:54] <jrib> Oli```: does just printscreen work?
[12:54] <wastl> hi
[12:54] <Oli```> jrib: yup
[12:54] <jrib> Oli```: is alt-printscreen supposed to grab a window?
[12:54] <Oli```> jrib: yeah
[12:54] <jrib> Oli```: does the cursor change so you can select a window?
[12:54] <senida> ok no probleme bye bye
[12:55] <Oli```> jrib: it *used* to just grab the output of the current window and pop up a window like normal printscreen does
[12:55] <jrib> senida: honestly, I'd use regular ubuntu and sit down with a couple of sessions with them.  Then I'd add icons and such that would seem helpful
[12:56] <jrib> Oli```: oh, but is that a "no" to my previous question?
[12:56] <Oli```> jrib: yeah, I've never had it give me a window-select-style option - even when it worked
[12:56] <Cinux`> jrib: my g++ works now. Thank you!
[12:56] <gnomefreak> senida: might i suggest moving your topic to #ubuntu-offtopic since it is not a support question
[12:56] <Oli```> (yes, that's a no)
[12:57] <jrib> Oli```: k, try executing « gnome-panel-screenshot -w » and see if that works
[12:57] <senida> jrb: i know perfectly well ubuntu (i use debian since 2001) ands i know that will be too difficult for  them (like xp would be also)
[12:58] <gnomefreak> senida: please join #ubuntu-offtopic for non-support related topics
[12:58] <Oli```> jrib: both that and gnome-screenshot --window work fine. I say the other command because I've just had a look at my compiz gnome-compat settings and that's what it lists for the window screenshot command.
[12:58] <jrib> Cinux`: no problem
[12:58] <jrib> Oli```: I see
[12:59] <Oli```> jrib: it's like something's overriding the keypress because other compiz-set keys are working
[12:59] <jrib> Oli```: does it work if you bind it to a different key combination?
[12:59] <Oli```> jrib: yes
[12:59] <jrib> !away > pranay_09
[13:00] <TiK> !away
[13:00] <jrib> Oli```: k, well now we know the issue... Maybe try #compiz?  Did it used to work?  What changed?
[13:00] <TiK> (i wanted to read it
[13:00] <TiK> )
[13:01] <Oli```> jrib: when I try and set it back to <Alt>Print it can't "hear" the key combination. As I say, it's like something else is listening to that event and stopping anything else hear it. Is there any way to see what's responding to a keypress?
[13:01] <jrib> Oli```: not that I know of
[13:02] <Oli```> jrib: same applies to gnome's own keyboard shortcuts window (can't hear it). I'm in metacity now and the same is happening.
[13:03] <jrib> Oli```: check what programs are running
[13:04] <jrib> Oli```: you can also create a fresh new user and verify the key shortcut works there, then you would only have to login with the user for which it doesn't work and list running programs by that user
[13:04] <Oli```> jrib: good plan. I'll try the guest session
[13:06] <sztomi> hi, could someone help me with reinstalling grub2?
[13:07] <jrib> !grub2 > sztomi
[13:07] <sztomi> thanks jrib, Im aware of that
[13:08] <jrib> sztomi: then you need to ask a more specific question
[13:08] <sacarlson> sztomi: how bad is it?
[13:08] <fanqiang> 有人吗？
[13:08] <fanqiang> 说话萨
[13:08] <FloodBot3> fanqiang: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:08] <fanqiang> 怎么没有人呢？
[13:08] <sztomi> I repartitioned the harddrive and install windows on another partition
[13:08] <fanqiang> 不是阿
[13:08] <fanqiang> 杂到拉
[13:09] <LjL> !cn | fanqiang
[13:09] <fanqiang> 怎么没有人呢？
[13:09] <wastl> fanqiang: this is an english speaking channel..we don't understand you
[13:09] <sacarlson> sztomi: so you plan to install ubuntu after windows? or has windows caused a problem with a preinstaled ubuntu?
[13:09] <sztomi> the later
[13:10] <sztomi> but simple restoring the original installation is not working because I repartitioned the disk
[13:10] <sacarlson> sztomi: then boot a ubuntu live cd and install grub2 from there
[13:10] <sacarlson> sztomi: it will still work fine
[13:11] <sztomi> is there a way to autodetect installed OSes and install automatically? I'm on the live cd right now
[13:11] <sacarlson> sztomi: even if it moved from sda to sdb with grub2 it will scan find the new location of your old ubuntu and make it bootable
[13:12] <sacarlson> sztomi: yes that's what grub2 does automagic
[13:12] <relachs> hello, i want to install mysql-server via apt-get
[13:12] <relachs> but i get: E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[13:12] <relachs> E: Unable to lock the download directory
[13:12] <relachs> what should i do now?
[13:12] <Rob235> good morning
[13:12] <sztomi> sacarlson, do I grub-install or update-grub?
[13:13] <Rob235> is there a way to install ubuntu over an existing install? i know its sloppy but i really messed something up
[13:16] <sacarlson> sztomi: for more details look at this http://paste.ubuntu.com/484461/
[13:16] <sacarlson> sztomi: or !grub2
[13:16] <relachs> after restart: E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[13:16] <zzzed_> Rob235, just reinstall, but be sure and reformat your partitions
[13:17] <sztomi> thank you
[13:17] <Rob235> zzzed_, i said i didnt want to format...
[13:17] <gnomefreak> relachs: run the command sudo dpkg --configure -a
[13:17] <zzzed_> Rob235, no you didn't say that
[13:17] <bazhang> !home | Rob235
[13:17] <Rob235> i said install over an existing install, i thought that was obvious but i guess not
[13:18] <relachs> gnomefreak ok after a restart and trying again it asked me to do so and then i tried again and it seems to download it
[13:18] <bazhang> Rob235, move home to a separate partition then install
[13:18] <gnomefreak> relachs: than the problem is fixed?
[13:19] <Rob235> i still have to reinstall everything though, right?
[13:19] <relachs> gnomefreak for now i think , thanks
[13:19] <bazhang> Rob235, just the OS home wont be touched
[13:19] <Rob235> all my programs
[13:19] <Rob235> oh
[13:19] <gnomefreak> relachs: np. the error gave you the fix i just helped you see it :)
[13:19] <Rob235> thanks
[13:20] <relachs> gnomefreak but only after i restarted and tried again
[13:21] <gnomefreak> relachs: you could have ran sudo apt-get update first i would think but i didnt know the whole story
[13:22] <bint> you guys think that 60° celsius coretemp in a shuttle barebone is too high (bios in idle)? should i clean the cpu and add some new heatsink-paste?
[13:22] <logan_wolf> jca1981, bye
[13:24] <relachs> gnomefreak do you know where mysql is being installed to? because in my have to set a path to the location
[13:24] <relachs> in book the location is /usr/local/mysql
[13:24] <relachs> but i dont see it there...
[13:25] <lanceburrows_> hey [22:21] <lanceburrows> can anyone help me with this error installing 10.04 [22:21] <lanceburrows> NoneType object has no attribute Get_Info, Any help?, I cant install, im using wubi to duel boot, I have downloaded kubuntu 3 times same error
[13:25] <gnomefreak> relachs: not off hand. why /usr/local? are you installing it from repos?
[13:25] <lanceburrows_> I know it isnt ubuntu but there os no covos going on in kubuntu
[13:25] <lanceburrows_> trpos?
[13:26] <jrib> lanceburrows_: did you check the cd for defects?
[13:26] <jrib> lanceburrows_: or whatever the checksum is called nowadays
[13:26] <lanceburrows_> I tried with and without cd
[13:26] <jrib> lanceburrows_: did you check the md5sum?
[13:26] <lanceburrows_> i dont usually use cds
[13:26] <lanceburrows_> how do i check it it is there
[13:26] <relachs> gnomefreak i don't know why the book says so, the book said i should do an apt-get install mysql-server what i did
[13:26] <jrib> !verify | lanceburrows_
[13:26] <relachs> and now a "sudo gem install mysql --with-mysql-dir=/usr/local/mysql
[13:26] <relachs> "
[13:26] <gnomefreak> shoudlnt it be in /etc/ somewhere
[13:27] <jrib> relachs: things you install with APT do not go into /usr/local/
[13:28] <sacarlson> lanceburrows_: your the secound person today that fails to get ubuntu to install with wubi.  you can also try live boot with usb flash disk if you have one.
[13:28] <relachs> i don't know if that line of code belongs to the mac os x part or if i have to do it on linux too
[13:28] <kaushik> hi
[13:28] <lanceburrows_> i dont want to do it without wubi because i dont want to acidently over write windows
[13:29] <bill__> hallo, i installed ubuntu 10.04 and i have a problem . when i go to read a .txt file which is writted in greek i see some very weird letters which are definetely not greek ... please someone help me ... this is an example http://news.in.gr/files/1/2010/AEI-Hmerisia-90.TXT
[13:29] <kaushik> bill__, do you the fonts?
[13:29] <bill__> fonts=?
[13:30] <kaushik> bill__, you need to install fontsfor it in
[13:30] <kaushik> /usr/share/fonts
[13:30] <bill__> but the same happens when i download another txt file
[13:30] <cmpsalvestrini> bill__: Seems to me you have Cyrillic fonts and not Greek fonts
[13:30] <bill__> not reading it in firefox
[13:31] <kaushik> check it in that dir once
[13:31] <sacarlson> lanceburrows_: well it apears wubi is some what broken so I guess your stuck with windows then.
[13:31] <wastl> bill__: hence this is a text file it doesn't know fonts nor formatting. What it does know is encoding...
[13:31] <kaushik> bill__,??
[13:32] <lanceburrows_> hey is there any kubuntu hashs
[13:32] <cmpsalvestrini> sacarison: Not really, he could backup all the Windows documents and take the dive to an all-ubuntu install
[13:32] <LjL> !ops | MexicoLindo's quit message
[13:32] <wastl> bill__: if I set my firefox to open that textfile using ISO-8859-7 (i.e. ISO Standardencoding for Greek) it looks greek to me
[13:32] <sacarlson> lanceburrows_: oh one more solution you can run ubuntu under windows with virtualbox.
[13:32] <lanceburrows_> hashes sorry i need kubuntu hash codes
[13:33] <wastl> gna now hes gone
[13:33] <cmpsalvestrini> Guys: beware of MexicoLindo he's a troll
[13:33] <kaushik> bill__, i think that doesnt matter  even if its a txt it has to show
[13:33] <kaushik> bill__,there?
[13:34] <wastl> kaushik: he left....
[13:34] <kaushik> wastl, :)
[13:34] <lanceburrows_> im going to try copy the 9.10 wubi to the 10.04 installer
[13:35] <TiK> lanceburrows_: why 10.04 comes with wubi..
[13:36] <jrib> !sums | lanceburrows_
[13:36] <lanceburrows_> is there a way i can use the 9.10 files
[13:36] <jrib> !md5sums | lanceburrows_
[13:36] <lanceburrows_> to install 10.04
[13:36] <jrib> lanceburrows_: you could install 9.10 and upgrade if that's the route you wanted to take...
[13:36] <lanceburrows_> mine are different to them
[13:36] <lanceburrows_> i only have an hour
[13:36] <jrib> lanceburrows_: that's likely why you are having issues.  You need to redownload the iso
[13:37] <lanceburrows_> then im going on a plane
[13:37] <iria89> ola
[13:37] <lanceburrows_> i downloaded it 3 times
[13:37] <iria89> hi
[13:37] <jrib> lanceburrows_: use a different mirror?
[13:37] <lanceburrows_> yes
[13:38] <lanceburrows_> i used one from ubuntu site then from an educational mirror then another through torrent
[13:38] <iria89> sombody speak spanish??
[13:38] <ikonia> !es
[13:38] <bazhang> iria89, /join #ubuntu-es
[13:38] <sacarlson> lanceburrows_: in virtualbox you can install the iso without burning the cd.  maybe your problem is bad cd burner
[13:38] <jrib> lanceburrows_: what md5sum did you get on the iso you downloaded?  Which iso did you download?
[13:39] <lanceburrows_> kubuntu 10.04
[13:39] <lanceburrows_> 08-27 21:00 INFO   root: [13:39] <lanceburrows_> hold on i will upload the log
[13:40] <lordleemo> jrib: cant he just dl the wubi installer from http://wubi-installer.org/ rather than dl the iso maybe helps
[13:40] <sudobat> hi everybody
[13:40] <jrib> lordleemo: I don't know
[13:41] <jarek> hej
[13:41] <sacarlson> with wubi  do they create new partitions or are they running ubuntu inside windows patitions?
[13:41] <lanceburrows_> heres the link to the log
[13:41] <lanceburrows_> http://www.sendspace.com/file/en5yfq
[13:42] <lanceburrows_> scarlson the easy way is to make your own partion then install to that
[13:42] <jrib> lanceburrows_: no, please do not use annoying services like sendspace.  If you want to show us the log, use a pastebin.  But at the moment, I'm just asking for the md5sum
[13:42] <sacarlson> lanceburrows_: I have to pay money to see your logs?
[13:42] <lanceburrows_> oh ok
[13:42] <lanceburrows_> really thought it was fre
[13:49] <StaRetji> Folks, what could be the reason I'm hearing sound in web browser but not in xbmc for example, sound is disappearing after reboot and if I switch PCs. (using casper-rw on usb stick). I really need help! Thx in advance.
[13:50] <TiK> if you switch PC's they prob have different soundcards...
[13:50] <StaRetji> TiK, thx for reply, thay are identical
[13:50] <StaRetji> it's intel d945gsejt with intel hd audio
[13:51] <TiK> StaRetji: hmm
[13:51] <TiK> StaRetji: 1sec
[13:51] <StaRetji> so, when I put it back, no sound. The thing is, there is a sound in ubuntu, but xbmc no sound, weird, and it was working before reboot
[13:51] <StaRetji> ok
[13:52] <TiK> StaRetji: A shot in the dark would be to try model=auto and see if
[13:52] <TiK> that makes any difference. (add "options snd-hda-intel model=auto" to
[13:52] <ozzieburr> Hi all, I am trying to install amazonmp3.deb on ubuntu 10.4. It requires a file Dependency is not satisfiable: libboost-filesystem1.34.1 but in Synaptic it has libbost-filesystem 1.40 if someone could help me I would appreciate it
[13:52] <TiK> /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf and reboot)
[13:52] <StaRetji> TiK, will do that, thx
[13:52] <pc_> alguien sabe donde puedo encontrar la libreria mplex para el grabador de discos brasero??
[13:52] <TiK> StaRetji: ok...
[13:53] <TiK> StaRetji: let me know.. we can try different models
[13:53] <ShinyDarkness> Hello, all. I have a MacBook, an Ubuntu virtual machine and several Windows machines in a network, and I cannot get them to see each other.
[13:53] <TiK> StaRetji: aplay -l and google your codec
[13:54] <StaRetji> TiK, currently its set options snd-hda-intel model=6stack-dig probe_mask=1
[13:54] <StaRetji> but I'll put auto
[13:54] <ShinyDarkness> Actually, the Windows machines see each other perfectly.
[13:54] <TiK> ShinyDarkness: are they set to bridged?
[13:54] <TiK> StaRetji: auto reads from the bios
[13:54] <ShinyDarkness> Yes, I set the network configuration to bridged.
[13:55] <ShinyDarkness> And I installed Samba.
[13:55] <StaRetji> TiK, nope, I've setit
[13:55] <carlosgaldino> Could someone create an account for me? On X10 hosting.
[13:55] <TiK> StaRetji: doesn't work?
[13:55] <StaRetji> TiK, few minutes ago, didn't help, I will try auto now
[13:55] <TiK> StaRetji: oh ok
[13:55] <ShinyDarkness> TiK: Yes, I set the network configuration to bridged.  And I installed Samba.
[13:56] <TiK> ShinyDarkness: is samba running?
[13:56] <ShinyDarkness> I don't know. How do I test whether it is running?
[13:56] <kuu> hello
[13:56] <wastl> ShinyDarkness: do a ps aux | grep smbd on a shell?
[13:56] <TiK> ShinyDarkness: ps aux | grep samba ?
[13:57] <ShinyDarkness> Ok.
[13:57] <wastl> ShinyDarkness: if it outputs just itself there is no samba running
[13:57] <TiK> ShinyDarkness: or smbd ;
[13:57] <TiK> ShinyDarkness: I dont use it myself...
[13:57] <ShinyDarkness> TiK: According to this, samba is running.
[13:58] <ShinyDarkness> TiK, wastl: Can I use samba to get the MacBook and Ubuntu to see each other as well? Or do I have to do something else?
[13:58] <TiK> ShinyDarkness: are you sure? if there was only 1 listing then its pob you looking for it
[14:00] <StaRetji> TiK, nothing, sound works, but no sound in xbmc :/
[14:00] <TiK> StaRetji: ubuntu-bug
[14:00] <StaRetji> TiK, could it be coz I have alsa and pulseaudio
[14:00] <TiK> StaRetji: nah
[14:00] <StaRetji> TiK, why do I need pulse audio
[14:00] <abhijit> hello all!!!
[14:00] <abhijit> just connected mobile and my lovely ubuntu 'just detected and connected me!!! :)
[14:01] <alienseer23> DVD's are not mounting at all, neither data dvd's with info, nor video dvd's with movies. It was working fine a few days ago and just stopped with the last round of updates...
[14:01] <TiK> Shiney: type smbstatus
[14:01] <Regenerating> i have reboot problem :( , i can only hardreset
[14:02] <StaRetji> TiK, what is it for, I didn't have it on older ubuntu, and no sound problems. aplay plays sound just fine, could it be that xbmc uses pulseaudio and that is the problem?
[14:05] <TiK> StaRetji: pulseaudio is just the defualt.. you can try another
[14:05] <TiK> StaRetji: aplay -l just lists your codec's
[14:06] <StaRetji> aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front....something.wav plays sound
[14:07] <StaRetji> would I harm something if I uninstall pulseaudio, it confuses me that I have hda intel and pulseaudio in mixer settings
[14:07] <StaRetji> which one is relevant for what?
[14:08] <TiK> StaRetji: idk
[14:09] <_L30_> how can i remove the purple ubuntu screen during startup and just get the text startup
[14:09] <bazhang> !nox | _L30_
[14:09] <TiK> _L30_: remove quiet...
[14:09] <_L30_> ooh got it that :)
[14:09] <_L30_> got it*
[14:10] <x-ip> Hi, i downloaded the iso 32 bit  from ubuntu 10.04 and when it tries to boot i'm getting a uncompression error system halted, any ideas ? :)
[14:11] <bazhang> x-ip, md5 the iso ? burn at low speed then do the disk integrity check?
[14:11] <x-ip> bazhang, the md5 is fine, and i tryed to use it with virtual box (to discard the burns erros) and getting the same error
[14:13] <pozidux> hi every body! i have a question
[14:13] <pozidux> anybody can help me?!
[14:13] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1547521 x-ip like this?
[14:13] <Routers> just ask .. some one will help u if they are available to help
[14:13] <pozidux> i want to remaster debian... where should i begin?!
[14:14] <bazhang> pozidux, ask a question
[14:14] <jrib> pozidux: #debian :)
[14:14] <bazhang> pozidux, ask in #debian
[14:14] <Routers> #debian pls
[14:14] <pozidux> i asked before. nobody answered!
[14:14] <bazhang> pozidux, so be patient ; offtopic here
[14:15] <x-ip> bazhang, yes, the difference is that i'm not upgrading, =)
[14:15] <doktoreas> hello everybody..do you know if evolution has got an archive function for gmail?
[14:15] <pozidux> ok
[14:15] <carlosgaldino> Could someone create an account for me?
[14:15] <davidw> hi - I seem to have lost auto-mounting of usb devices - what service should I restart to see if I can get it back?
[14:15] <bazhang> carlosgaldino, what?
[14:16] <carlosgaldino> bazhang: I need to create an account for free web hosting but due to my country's IP I'm not able, so I'm here asking for help of some foreign
[14:17] <bazhang> carlosgaldino, that has nothing to do with ubuntu. please dont ask
[14:17] <carlosgaldino> bazhang: I know. I came here just to find someone to help
[14:18] <bazhang> carlosgaldino, its offtopic here. please dont
[14:18] <amikrop> Hello. Is this bug fixed with an update, yet? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/consolekit/+bug/544139
[14:18] <Axz> Guys Spotify for Ubuntu works? because i have it installed cant logon
[14:19] <Axz> anyone has same problem and how to solve it?
[14:19] <feodor> carlosgaldino, #defocus
[14:19] <GRANDx86> hi
[14:20] <carlosgaldino> feodor: oh, good. thanks. i didn't know about it. see bazhang, it's just help, i don't wanna mess with this channel.
[14:20] <GRANDx86> i have backtrack 4 and i have problem with shift key - they don't work
[14:20] <GRANDx86> how to map Windows key as Shift key
[14:20] <bazhang> GRANDx86, #backtrack-linux for support
[14:21] <GRANDx86> i try but i'm banned there...
[14:21] <GRANDx86> backtrack is on ubuntu
[14:21] <bazhang> GRANDx86, your ident is root. change it
[14:21] <bazhang> GRANDx86, no, its not. and not supported here
[14:21] <imfede> how do you know if someone is a root?
[14:22] <bazhang> imfede, check his ident. its banned in certain channels
[14:22] <cast> imfede: you can't.
[14:22] <jrib> imfede: why?
[14:22] <imfede> bazhang: what is the ident and how can i check it?
[14:23] <bazhang> imfede, you mean you as a user? or a irc ident
[14:24] <imfede> bazhang:  does exist a irc root?
[14:24] <bazhang> imfede, ident = root@IP address when they join the channel
[14:25] <hugoshi> can someone help me understand ubuntu boot up configuration, I installed openssh serverbut i don't want it to start on boot.  I looked at sysv-rc-conf and ssh isn't selected to startup in any runlevel - yet it starts up on boot anyways?
[14:25] <imfede> bazhang: when someone join i don't see ident=root@ip
[14:32] <cjxjman> Question for the masses. I get a "you don not have permission or rights to access this file or folder" when I try to open a folder on an XP machine over my network. Its a public folder on the XP box. Shared so everyone can use it.
[14:33] <yonahw|away> Hi, I am running 10.04 within a vm using vmware. In general all works well and is nice. Sometimes when I leave the vm open and running overnight the sound no longer works in the morning. Has anyone ever seen this problem. Google mainly returns results where sound never works.
[14:33] <bazhang> cjxjman, connecting from ubuntu?
[14:33] <cjxjman> yes. going to the XP box over the net
[14:33] <cjxjman> network not internet
[14:33] <theman> hello there...I have a question...
[14:34] <theman> I have a 4core laptop, and I want to install ubuntu 10.04.1
[14:34] <yonahw|away> cjxjman: check the actual permissions, sometimes it seems like its available but actually is inheriting more restrictive persmissions
[14:34] <demo> Hey I'm working with lucid lynx how do I move the close, hide and maximize window buttons to the other side of the window title bar?
[14:34] <theman> which version do you suggest 32, or 64 bits?
[14:34] <bazhang> !controls | demo
[14:34] <demo> theman: sounds like 64
[14:34] <yonahw|away> cjxjman: sorry I meant effective permissions
[14:35] <afeijo> hi guys :)
[14:35] <afeijo> anyone using virtualbox with dual monitor?
[14:35] <theman> ubuntu.org says"Not recommended for daily desktop usage"
[14:35] <cjxjman> ok will do that.
[14:35] <theman> 64 bit Not recommended for daily desktop usage
[14:35] <theman> WHY?
[14:35] <bazhang> theman, its poorly worded. its fine
[14:35] <theman> ok...thanx
[14:36] <cjxjman> I'm running the 64bit version on my Desktop and its nice and fast
[14:36] <emj> theman: yeah for me flash sucks more on 64 bit
[14:36] <yonahw> I am running 64 bit on my home machine as well and also am experiencing some flash issues. Other than that it runs nicely
[14:37] <chrometiger> is there an easy way of tranfering files between 2 pc's, one on wired connection and the other on wireless    "same router"
[14:37] <theman> emj. I have already installed the 32 bits version...and is fine...I was just wandering why ubuntu.org says "Not recommended for daily desktop usage"
[14:37] <TiK> yonahw: flashplugin-nonfree ?
[14:37] <Nwab> hi i try to make an iso for flashing my bios, i did this : 'sudo mount -o loop -t vfat DRDOS703.IMG tmp' and it worked. But i've got a problem when i try to do this : 'sudo cp AWDFASH.EXE biosupdate.file tmp'. I've got this error : 'not enough space ...' why ?
[14:37] <cast> theman: probably because of non-free software having bad 64 bit support,
[14:37] <erUSUL> both ubuntu?
[14:37] <yonahw> TiK: indeed the nonfree
[14:37] <cast> theman: it's almost like they're advocating non-free...
[14:38] <erUSUL> chrometiger: both ubuntu?
[14:38] <TiK> yonahw: works for me on 64bit
[14:38] <theman> cast, ahaaa
[14:38] <Buffalo66> How do i know what ubuntu iso to download
[14:38] <chrometiger> erUSUL: one is   one is winxp
[14:38] <chrometiger> erUSUL: wireless is ubuntu
[14:38] <wer_> Internet is not working on my dell laptop with Kubuntu 10.04. I looked over the net found that I need to install a driver for my system. I need to install build-essential first. How can install it without a net connection ?
[14:38] <TiK> Buffalo66: depends if you are running 32bit or 64bit
[14:38] <Buffalo66> i have a intel mortherboard
[14:38] <Buffalo66> 32
[14:38] <erUSUL> chrometiger: share a folder in winXP then in ubuntu use Places>Network>Windows Network
[14:38] <yonahw> TiK: for me it kind of works. Most things work but some don't. Youtube plays videos but I can't use any of the controls like full screen or close the ad
[14:38] <theman> I have matlab 64 bit version, and I wanted to try it...
[14:38] <emj> theman: yeah what cast says, if you can live commercial applications  then it's ok..
[14:38] <Buffalo66> but how do i make sure im running 32
[14:39]  * emj falls asleep
[14:39] <TiK> yonahw: yeah. thats why I switched too chrome..
[14:39] <theman> no, I can't live with comercial apps...I want free apps
[14:39] <cast> a lot of the world has been running 64bit for a long time
[14:39] <TiK> yonahw: firefox and the plugin sucks
[14:39] <yonahw> TiK: are you saying that you had the same experience in Firefox and switching to chrome firxed it?
[14:39] <wer_> Internet is not working on my dell laptop with Kubuntu 10.04. I looked over the net found that I need to install a driver for my system. I need to install build-essential first. How can install it without a net connection ? Is there a solution ?
[14:39] <yonahw> ah I see
[14:40] <erUSUL> wer_: what driver ?
[14:40] <yonahw> TiK: thanks for that tip I'll be sure to check it out.
[14:40] <chariotwinner> intrestingly vim is not installed by ubuntu
[14:40] <TiK> yonahw: :P
[14:40] <theman> 32bits apps, do run on 64 bit ubuntu?
[14:40] <wer_> erUSUL: the ethernet driver of my laptop is new for which drivers are not in kubuntu as of now
[14:40] <erUSUL> !offline
[14:41] <theman> because in windowz 7 64 bit, many apps have trouble...I can't run my usb tv app anymore...:(
[14:41] <RobertV> has this bug been fixed in the latest ubuntu: panel-autohide leaves a one-pixel line on the desktop
[14:42] <yonahw> theman: I would say that very few apps have trouble running in 64 bit windows 7 since it has the whole wow64 but there are drivers which have issues
[14:42] <RobertV> basically, when you autohide a panel, it doesn't completely autohide it -- it leaves a one-pixel border line
[14:43] <arnorhs> freckin wubi
[14:43] <yonahw> anyone ever experience ubuntu running in a vmware player vm losing sound? anyone know what I should be looking into? A restart of the host fixes it but I don't really want to go that route if it can at all be avoided?
[14:43] <arnorhs> i installed wubi 2 times yesterday night, both installations got destroyed
[14:43] <RobertV> is a vmware player different from vmware workstation?
[14:43] <theman> yonahw, maybe, but in ubuntu 32 bits there is no need for drivers, kaffeine has everything...so, If I move to 64 bit ubuntu will I face troubles? or there will be only commercial apps?
[14:44] <TiK> RobertV: yes sort of player is the shareware version
[14:44] <wer_> erUSUL: that doesn't solve the problem. Theweb link says error:
[14:44] <arnorhs> first try ubuntu didn't get added to the bootloader, second time i managed to start ubuntu but after an hour of use I tried to install xchat.. which froze the computer, and the root.disk got ruined
[14:44] <arnorhs> fun times :)
[14:44] <MicrosoftBil> yas!
[14:44] <MicrosoftBil> finally!!!
[14:44] <arnorhs> will probably try to do it the good old way instead
[14:44] <wer_> erUSUL: ApTonCD won't work as I don't have build-essential on my system as of now
[14:45] <erUSUL> wer_: and synaptic script?
[14:45] <MicrosoftBil> finally cracked and hacked the wifi!!!
[14:45] <yonahw> theman: I can't tell you what will happen on your machine but I haven't had any driver issues with 64 bit.
[14:45] <bazhang> !ot | MicrosoftBil
[14:45] <theman> ok...thanx dude
[14:45] <wer_> erUSUL: No internet connection on kubuntu so how would I get build-essential ?
[14:46] <wer_> erUSUL: There's no network connection at all on kubuntu
[14:46] <ewook> wer_: get the meta-packets on another machine.
[14:46] <MicrosoftBil> ok
[14:46] <erUSUL> wer_: you use synapti to generate the script then on another linux machine you run it. then yu copy the deb over to the offline machine
[14:46] <wer_> ewook: how ?
[14:46] <RobertV> could someone autohide their taskbar panel and see if it leaves a 1-pixel border?
[14:47] <wer_> erUSUL: and I don't have another machine except a dual boot system with win7
[14:47] <ilovefairuz> RobertV: it does
[14:47] <sdk> wer_: Get it from another computer w a connection, put it on a dvd, put it in the system, mount the CD then do dpkg -i build-essentiai(rest of teh name).deb
[14:47] <bazhang> RobertV, no border here
[14:47] <phil> clear
[14:47] <phil> exit
[14:47] <TiK> heh
[14:47] <sdk> dvd or usb drive  or whatever
[14:48] <erUSUL> wer_: maybe in windows you have a download manager that can take url's from a text file ? the script it is just a text file with lines « wget url_here »
[14:48] <TiK> sdk: how would you tell  to install onto the cd/usb
[14:48] <sdk> If you plan on doing much work on the system w/ no connection, I suggest you get the entire DVD collection and add it to your sources.list
[14:48] <MicrosoftBil> bazhang: Are you always present??
[14:49] <ilovefairuz> !ot | MicrosoftBil
[14:49] <bazhang> MicrosoftBil, stay on topic please
[14:49] <MicrosoftBil> ok ok
[14:49] <TiK> sdk: chroot?
[14:49] <sdk> TiK: you're copying the .deb to thumb and sneakernetting it to the destiination machine.  That was for wer_, sorry for confustion.
[14:50] <MicrosoftBil> if I want to talk about webdesign, which chat room should i go?
[14:50] <kaushik> hi can anybody tell me  how to make a multi os  bootable dvd ,i read somewhere that it was done for 7 different os
[14:50] <TiK> sdk: i know
[14:50] <erUSUL> !html | MicrosoftBil
[14:50] <bazhang> #web or #html MicrosoftBil
[14:50] <TiK> sdk: but doesnt -i install?
[14:50] <wer_> sdk: entire DVD ? doesn't it have language packs only as a difference ?
[14:50] <MicrosoftBil> yup
[14:50] <sdk> He's trying to install build-essential onto a system w/ no internet connection, is he not?
[14:50]  * erUSUL fail
[14:50] <TiK> sdk: yes
[14:50] <TiK> sdk: but i dont follow your logic
[14:51] <TiK> erUSUL has a better solution, dk
[14:52] <TiK> sdk: doesnt dpkg -i install. how would it put the deb onto cd?
[14:52] <sdk> then, on a system w/ connection, get the .deb from packages.ubuntu.com.  copy it to thumb, walk it to the other computer, put in the thumb drive, copy the .deb to the HD and do dpkg -i build-essential*.deb.. and automagically it will iontall.
[14:52] <sdk> s/iontall/install/
[14:52] <TiK> sdk: ooh now i see :P
[14:52] <arvind_khadri> Hi, I am unable to find check_nt used in nagios, it is in nagios-plugins-basic, but am not able to use it.
[14:52] <ewook> sdk: build-essentials is a meta-package.
[14:52] <ewook> sdk: thus, not a real .deb.
[14:53] <TiK> sdk yah that would work
[14:53] <MicrosoftBil> anyone private chat on CSS???
[14:53] <bazhang> MicrosoftBil, try ##css
[14:53] <sdk> ewook: point taken.. in that case... look at the files in build essential on packages.debian.org and copy them manually.
[14:53] <Molfar> how can I add path to open_basedir directive globaly to all virtual hosts?
[14:53] <sdk> err.. ubuntu.com
[14:53] <crazier> no,I dont do that
[14:53] <ilovefairuz> kaushik: the root filesystems for live cds are now usually created of squashfs image files, so by adding the squashfs images for all the distros you want to boot and adding entries for them in the bootloader config file (syslinux or grub) you can boot mutiple OSes off the same CD or USB pendrive
[14:54] <sdk> or like I said, get the whole DVD set and add them to your sources.list
[14:54] <MicrosoftBil> i went to #php and it is empty
[14:54] <yonahw> did something replace alsa-utils in 10.04? I am trying to manually restart my sound and get cannot find job alsa-utils?
[14:54] <wer_> sdk: erUSUL Is the option for generating script there in kpackagKit ? I don't have synaptic in kubuntu ?
[14:54] <ewook> wer_: http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/build-essential
[14:55] <Nwab> i cannot put some files in a folder to make an iso : http://paste.ubuntu-fr-secours.org/src-96023
[14:55] <sdk> ewook: Sorry, brain fart there.  :-/
[14:55] <mrDEMON> Ïðèâåò
[14:55] <itsux2bu> MicrosoftBil, try  ##php   with 2  #
[14:55] <mrDEMON> Ïîäñêàæèòå êàêóþ âåðñèþ ëóòøå ïîñòàâèòü?
[14:55] <itsux2bu> MicrosoftBil, there is 555 users in there
[14:55] <ilovefairuz> mrDEMON: what's your native language?
[14:55] <bazhang> !ru | mrDEMON
[14:55] <sdk> wer_: I've no idea.. never use synaptic.  Eterm and apt-get.
[14:55] <ewook> sdk: no, aacctually....
[14:56] <ewook> sdk:  pool/main/b/build-essential/build-essential_11.4_i386.deb
[14:56] <ewook> sdk: my bad.
[14:56] <erUSUL> wer_: i dunno; maybe in #kubuntu they know
[14:56] <MicrosoftBil> ok
[14:56] <wer_> sdk: erUSUL ok
[14:56] <mrDEMON> ñïàñèáî
[14:57] <ewook> sdk: http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/main/b/build-essential/build-essential_11.4build1_i386.deb
[14:57] <erUSUL> !ru | mrDEMON
[14:57] <mrDEMON> íî òàì íå êîãî
[14:57] <bazhang> mrDEMON, /join #ubuntu-ru
[14:57] <wer_> ewook: Are those 5 package enough to install build-essential as I think the 4 packages on which buildessential depends might have other dependencies
[14:57] <ewook> mrDEMON: hush, please.
[14:57] <ewook> wer_: http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/main/b/build-essential/build-essential_11.4build1_i386.deb
[14:57] <MicrosoftBil> in #php?
[14:57] <kaushik> ilovefairuz, is there any place where an example is set up?
[14:58] <chariotwinner> my totem doesnt play avi files which are quite some old
[14:58] <ewook> wer_: that should be enough, the meta should contain the referred packs as well
[14:58] <chariotwinner> can any 1 help
[14:58] <mrDEMON> ï
[14:58] <itsux2bu> MicrosoftBil, there's difference between  #php  and ##php
[14:58] <ewook> wer_: and I am guessing you were using 10.04 ?
[14:58] <wer_> ewook: yes
[14:58] <sdk> Kk, so now to my question... trying to get soem terms to start on workspace3 on login.  It used to be that the -D switch for Eterm would work fine, then I had to move to wmctrl, but now wmctrl is no longer working .. so.. how would I get a terminal to load on login in a paerticular workspace?
[14:58] <maritz_> Hi, I've got an ubuntu on my netbook (acer aspire one) and the battery charge is sometimes randomly registered as <1.0% (when it really isn't.) then 10-30 seconds later snaps back to the real value. this often leads to ubuntu setting my brightness to lowest and warning me of hibernating soon. is there a way to fix this? (issue is not present in windows, so it's not the battery)
[14:59] <MicrosoftBil> who is the father of UBUNTU?
[14:59] <Kitar|st> I'm hosting a Ceriatone Forum Donation Drive!!! You Can Win A Hand Wired Prinzetone Guitar Amp!!! http://ceriatoneforum.com/index.php?topic=1841.msg12851#msg12851 Check it out :)
[14:59] <Kitar|st> oops
[14:59] <Kitar|st> :|
[14:59] <Kitar|st> hh
[14:59] <FloodBot3> Kitar|st: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:59] <bazhang> Kitar|st, not here please
[14:59] <Kitar|st> sry
[15:00] <itsux2bu> MicrosoftBil, freenode has this silly rule that is the channel isn't an officially supported by the maker of that product.. then it has to have ## in instead of #..
[15:00] <Kitar|st> hehe
[15:00] <ilovefairuz> kaushik: It's pretty simple if you understand how a linux system is initially booted (a kernel +and initrd file) Look at the files comprising ubuntu livecd, especially the bootloader config
[15:00] <bazhang> itsux2bu, he's gone
[15:00] <nooby-doo> firefox doesnt play flash video anymore, i get a black box and nothing happens on youtube, is there a fix? i cant seem to find a forum either
[15:00] <itsux2bu> ok
[15:00] <wer_> ewook: just to confirm before I reboot my system to install that. The link you gave just now downloads 7.1 kb while the one on http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/build-essential also is of 7.1 KB. Any problems  ?
[15:00] <TiK> nooby-doo: what flash are you running
[15:00] <sdk> maritz_: I'd suggest that is may be your hardware connection, still.  Microsoft (I believe) only polls the battery ever couple of minutes, whereas (again I believe) Ubu is set to poll much more frequently.
[15:01] <gong> 你好
[15:01] <sdk> nooby-doo: get the plugin from adobe.
[15:01] <bazhang> !cn | gong
[15:01] <chariotwinner> totem in ubuntu 10.4 is corrupt
[15:01] <bazhang> wer_, that's a metapackage only
[15:01] <maritz_> sdk: do you know how i can change the polling frequency?
[15:01] <kaushik> ilovefairuz, thank you
[15:01] <nooby-doo> TiK:     File: libswfdecmozilla.so
[15:01] <nooby-doo>     Version:
[15:01] <nooby-doo>     Shockwave Flash 9.0 r999
[15:02] <TiK> nooby-doo: I think the latest flash is 10 something
[15:02] <sdk> maritz_: No idea, sorry man, I remember reading it in a forum somewhere.
[15:02] <wer_> bazhang: no dependencies at all then ? I need to do dpkg -i path/to/.debfile
[15:02] <wer_> ?
[15:02] <gong> #ubuntu-cn
[15:02] <ilovefairuz> gong: write: /join #ubuntu-cn
[15:02] <nooby-doo> TiK: how do i update this?
[15:02] <maritz_> sdk: i read of a few people with very similar problems but absolutely no solutions were offered. :(
[15:02] <sdk> wer_: Really, man, FTP the whole Ubuntu install.  You're goign to be MUCH b etter off that way.
[15:02] <bazhang> wer_, quite the contrary; check them at packages.ubuntu.com  (red for depends iirc)
[15:02] <wer_> bzrk: ewook Am i Right ? only dpkg -i path/to/.debfile needs to be done to install it ?
[15:02] <TiK> nooby-doo: tools/add-ons/update
[15:02] <gong> join #ubuntu-cn
[15:02] <sdk> maritz_: Hrm.. one sec.
[15:03] <wer_> sdk: how ?
[15:03] <bazhang> wer_, do you have an ubuntu machine now? ie one online?
[15:03] <ilovefairuz> gong: /join
[15:04] <wer_> bazhang: no :(. Can be on a kubuntu one in 2 minutes
[15:04] <bazhang> wer_, same thing, use aptoncd
[15:04] <bazhang> !aptoncd | wer_
[15:04] <wer_> bazhang: but that would be 32 bit machine and I need to run it on 64 bit
[15:05] <wer_> bazhang: ah but I have installed a 32 bit OS only
[15:05] <wer_> !offline
[15:08] <sdk> wer_: wow, not easy.. debian has the whole thing. Oh, there you go.. :)
[15:08] <sdk> maritz_: Still checking.
[15:08] <maritz_> :D
[15:08] <maritz_> awesome
[15:08] <itsux2bu> i'm liking this ubuntu.. after figuring out how to make, by myself mind you, a hybrid server/desktop version of ubuntu.. i now have the best of both worlds.. hey you never know i might make ubuntu my main OS..
[15:09] <julius__> quieor entrar en una sala en español
[15:09] <ilovefairuz> !es | julius__
[15:10] <sdk> maritz_: Sorry man, looks like a known bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upower/+bug/555531
[15:10] <maritz_> okay, thanks :)
[15:11] <sdk> itsux2bu: That's great.  Proud of you.  Keep plugging away.
[15:11] <sdk> I may have missed a response, so I'ma repost, sorry for spam:
[15:12] <sdk> Kk, so now to my question... trying to get soem terms to start on workspace3 on login.  It used to be that the -D switch for Eterm would work fine, then I had to move to wmctrl, but now wmctrl is no longer working .. so.. how would I get a terminal to load on login in a paerticular workspace?
[15:12] <wer_> ewook: erUSUL its blank: http://sourceforge.net/projects/aptoncd/files/
[15:12] <wer_> bazhang: http://sourceforge.net/projects/aptoncd/files/  it's blank
[15:13] <bazhang> wer_, aptoncd from the repos
[15:13] <nooby-doo> ya dude somethings seriously wrong with firefox .. now it hangs everytime theres a flash video
[15:13] <erUSUL> wer_: aptoncd wont help you if you do not have access to another ubuntu machine
[15:13] <erUSUL> wer_: with inet conection.
[15:13] <peaces> how can i change the default editor to vim in a non-interactive way (for a bash script)? sudo update-alternatives --config editor does it interactively...
[15:13] <bazhang> wer_, if you have a net connection on another ubuntu/kubuntu/etc machine you can use it
[15:13] <wer_> erUSUL: Now I have access to another kubuntu machine with an internet connection. So do I need to sudo apt-get aptoncd ?
[15:14] <bazhang> wer_, with the install
[15:14] <erUSUL> wer_: yes;
[15:14] <bazhang> wer_, sudo apt-get install aptoncd
[15:14] <wer_> h ok
[15:14] <bazhang> wer_, then install build-essential on that machine
[15:15] <bazhang> wer_, and use aptoncd to create the repo from what you have installed
[15:16] <peaces> found the answer to my question: export EDITOR=/usr/bin/myeditor http://superuser.com/questions/168702/how-do-i-change-the-default-text-editor-in-ubuntu
[15:16] <sdk> peaces: I misunderstood you.. the easiest way is from teh CLI - set -o vi
[15:17] <sdk> or if you want it permanent, set it in your .profile or /etc/profile same line set -o vi
[15:17] <sdk> Oh, sorry I ws still misunderstanding you.. ignore me.
[15:18] <imfede> i need help. when i plug in my wirless belkin card the whole ubuntu crashes and i need to restart the whole computer. with ubu 9.10 it works but when i upgrade to 10.04 it begins to crash :( help me!
[15:18] <bazhang> imfede, hotplug? while computer is turned on? usb or pcmcia
[15:19] <smallfoot-> luckily in two months there will be a 10.10
[15:19] <bazhang> smallfoot-, ?
[15:19] <smallfoot-> bazhang, if 9.10 works, 10.04 broken, then maybe 10.04 fixed again
[15:20] <imfede> bazhang:  really idk its a belkin F5D7010
[15:20] <chariotwinner> what is alternative for gdmflexiserver
[15:21] <chariotwinner> or how could i install gdmflexiserver
[15:21] <bazhang> imfede, is it an external or builtin
[15:21] <imfede> bazhang:  external...
[15:22] <qwd> Hi, I want to install Ubuntu to a laptop without a cd drive. I have a desktop with Debian Squeeze and a partition with Windows 7 (with no network). What would be the easiest way?
[15:22] <bazhang> imfede, paste.ubuntu.com with the output of lsusb and give us the url
[15:22] <bazhang> qwd, can boot from usb flash?
[15:22] <wer_> ewook: erUSUL I have synaptic on another machine(kubuntu) so generating a script from there and installing the deb on my machine would work ?
[15:22] <wer_> or would I need aptoncd only
[15:22] <erUSUL> wer_: aptoncd only should work. they are alternative methods
[15:23] <imfede> bazhang: i have the lspci output... its not an usb key
[15:23] <wer_> erUSUL: ok, well I generated the script also. it's of no use then ?
[15:23] <bazhang> imfede, its external and pci?
[15:23] <qwd> bazhang: not sure. I thought the instructions for usb install seemed a bit complicated but if that's the easiest way I guess I need to go for it.
[15:23] <erUSUL> wer_: yes; if you use aptoncd you do not need the script
[15:24] <bazhang> qwd, most recent computers can, unetbootin can do that
[15:24] <wer_> erUSUL: ah I meanI generated the script on another machine using synaptic
[15:24] <bazhang> qwd, quite straightforward actually
[15:24] <sdk> bazhang: Can't he just run the installer from within windows and choose to isntallnext to the W7 install?
[15:25] <imfede> bazhang:  i know that is external and someone has asked me a lspci output...
[15:25] <bazhang> sdk, I dont recommend wubi installs
[15:25] <gravyface> anyone running 10.04 LTS?
[15:25] <sreeju> i have downloaded google earth. but it is .bin file .. how to install?
[15:25] <sdk> bazhang: Kk, just asking, nevr done myself..
[15:25] <qwd> bazhang: Ah, thanks, I was going to try usb-creator mentioned in the wiki but that's not in the Debian repo. unetbootin is though.
[15:25] <bazhang> imfede, both then please  lsusb and lspci
[15:25] <sreeju> please help
[15:25] <bazhang> !googleearth > sreeju
[15:26] <imfede> bazhang:  wait a min i restart the pc with a live cd
[15:26] <MasterRoot> hello, is there anyway to change the buffer size for track playback in rhythmbox?
[15:27] <sreeju> yes i have downloaded . but how to install?
[15:27] <sdk> !googleearth
[15:28] <sreeju> please tell how to install from the bin file
[15:28] <sdk> sreeju: from terminal: man man, man chmod, man chown
[15:29] <sreeju> what to type in terminal
[15:29] <bazhang> sdk, thats not needed
[15:29] <bazhang> sreeju, just a moment
[15:29] <sreeju> ok
[15:30] <MasterRoot> how about the buffer/cache size that samba client uses?
[15:31] <imfede> bazhang:  http://imfede.pastebin.com/bYe2ezyd it's the lspci
[15:33] <bazhang> imfede, and lsusb please
[15:33] <acidflash> hrmm
[15:33] <acidflash> ext 3 data=writeback and ext 4 data=writeback
[15:34] <acidflash> is there an improvement in performance from 3 to 4 with this same command ?
[15:34] <sreeju> answer me
[15:34] <imfede> bazhang:  okok
[15:34] <BluesKaj> 'Morning
[15:34] <sreeju> please
[15:34] <wer_> ewook: erUSUL bazhang I tried aptoncd, but it doesn't show build-essential in package list
[15:35] <afeijo> anyone using virtualbox with dual monitor?
[15:36] <bazhang> http://www.liberiangeek.net/2010/08/install-google-earth-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx/  sreeju using the medibuntu repos
[15:36] <sreeju> how?
[15:36] <BluesKaj> wer_, enable other software sources and canonical partners in your package manager then sudo apt-get update in the terminal
[15:36] <Nic_> Hello?
[15:36] <bazhang> sreeju, see that link?
[15:36] <djshotglass> hi, i installed wicd because i wanted better wireless managment but only to find out it sucks even more than what comes with 10.03 so i removed wicd and now have nothing how to i get the default back?
[15:36] <sreeju> ok wait
[15:37] <djshotglass> 10.04*
[15:37] <Nic_> I wanted to know how to create a separate partition for my music and videos and such while reinstalling ubuntu?
[15:37] <wastl> sreeju: to run a binary file it has either to be executable for you or to be capsulated in a shellscript
[15:37] <indigo> update-manager, on my upgrade to 9.10, is stuck at "Processing triggers for menu ..." Any idea how to get it unstuck?
[15:37] <bazhang> Nic_, separate home?
[15:38] <wer_> BluesKaj: they are already selected
[15:38] <bazhang> indigo, let it run; how long has it been
[15:38] <jenda> Nic_: don't do it :) I've had that on a previous installation and it's just too inconvenient.
[15:38] <indigo> bazhang: about 90 minutes.
[15:38] <Nic_> bazhang: I suppose, I just want to use the partition as a "backup" that will be removed later
[15:38] <indigo> bazhang: also, there is no CPU or disk activity.
[15:38] <wastl> sreeju: if so you coud run it with ./binaryfile  (if executable binary) or sh binfile.sh (if a shellscript encapsulated one)
[15:38] <jenda> Nic_: sooner or later, you will need some of that HDD space for something else, or your music/videos won't fit there, and you won't be able to reassign those gigabytes.
[15:38] <bazhang> !home | nic_ check this then perhaps
[15:39] <imfede> bazhang:  http://imfede.pastebin.com/VJ5m3F5Z lsusbi
[15:39] <BluesKaj> wer_, try sudo apt-get install build-essential
[15:39] <wer_> BluesKaj: says already installed
[15:39] <jenda> Nic_: of course, if it's for backup, or if you want to have your entire /home on a separate partition (which is more than reasonable) see the link from ubottu.
[15:39] <Nic_> jenda: I dont really have any other choice. I need to reinstall, and I cant afford any other means of backup, but I want to keep my home folder
[15:39] <Nic_> Oh, I see
[15:40] <Nic_> 'Let me try
[15:40] <afeijo> my ubuntu isnt loading, how can I abort the graphic mode and load the text mode?
[15:40] <bazhang> RaLink RT2500 802.11g Cardbus/mini-PCI (rev 01)  imfede checked in hardware drivers for a driver for this?
[15:40] <BluesKaj> wer_, so what are you trying to do then ?
[15:41] <wastl> afeijo: if it automatically goes to graphical mode you have to force it into text mode
[15:41] <wer_> BluesKaj: I want to include buid-essential to my apton cd image
[15:41] <imfede> bazhang:  well in 9.10 it works without the installation of any driver... where i can check the list of drivers?
[15:41] <afeijo> wastl: yes how?
[15:41] <wastl> afeijo: you have to edit the grub settings at runtime since this can only be forced via kernel parameter
[15:41] <sdk> apt-file build-essential
[15:41] <djshotglass> hi, i installed wicd because i wanted better wireless managment but only to find out it sucks even more than what comes with 10.04 so i removed wicd and now have nothing how to i get the default back?
[15:41] <sdk> whoops, sorry.
[15:42] <afeijo> wastl: any key to make it wait for my choice?
[15:42] <bazhang> imfede, that's odd does ifconfig show wlan0 or ra0 ath0 or something similar?
[15:42] <indigo> afeijo: or maybe, depending on what you mean by "does'nt load", you can just hit ctrl-alt-f1 to get to a tty.
[15:42] <gionnico> hi
[15:42] <wastl> afeijo: however is it just X.org not working properly? Then you could just use ctrl+alt+F1 to change to tty1 to get a shell
[15:42] <wer_> sdk ?
[15:42] <gionnico> damn safely remove hardware!!
[15:42] <gionnico> you should redirect me to the right place
[15:42] <afeijo> wastl: I had no xorg.conf, I created it and rebooted
[15:42] <gionnico> i think it's gnome-2.30?
[15:42] <Nic_> jenda: It isn't giving me the choice to resize the partition
[15:42] <gionnico> or is it new udev?
[15:42] <Nic_> It is all blanked out
[15:43] <gionnico> that introduced the "safely remove hardware" for USB sticks, memory cards, cd roms?
[15:43] <BluesKaj> djshotglass, did you remove network manager when you installed wicd
[15:43] <gionnico> you have now 2 choices: safely remove or eject
[15:43] <imfede> bazhang:  ifconfig shows a lot of thing... want to pastebin even the ifconfig output?
[15:43] <wastl> afeijo: no chance except having several grub entries with several parameter configs
[15:43] <bazhang> imfede, please
[15:43] <djshotglass> BluesKaj, no
[15:43] <gionnico> that is nonsense. eject usb pen drive??! safely remove "cd rom?" "cd hard drive?!"
[15:43] <afeijo> wastl: ctrl+alt+F1 didnt work
[15:43] <imfede> bazhang:  ok
[15:43] <gionnico> i really feel bad for those regressions that always occour
[15:43] <TiK> Nic_: you cnt mount a hard drive that is inuse boot from a livecd to resize
[15:43] <bazhang> !enter | gionnico
[15:43] <BluesKaj> djshotglass, then it should be listed in apps
[15:43] <TiK> nic: sorry its early
[15:43] <Nic_> TiK: I am running from a live CD
[15:43] <SuperMiguel> which DE or WM do you guys recommend when running ubuntu on a Virtual Machine, or a 13 inch laptop?
[15:43] <Nic_> TiK: I am using Gparted
[15:43] <TiK> Nic_: make sure its not mounted...
[15:44] <Nic_> TiK: And it wont let me change anything
[15:44] <wastl> afeijo: then its obivously stuck somewhere...you may have to force it then
[15:44] <TiK> Nic_: make sure you chose the right partition
[15:44] <Nic_> Ahhm that might be it
[15:44] <Nic_> One sec
[15:44] <gionnico> BEFORE there was umount (right click). or you could click the eject icon in nautilus: it still was the SAME FKN cmmand: umount
[15:44] <afeijo> wastl: how can I force it ? :)
[15:44] <sdk> wer_: just trying to see what debws are in build esential so you can download them individuallly..
[15:44] <bazhang> gionnico, watch the language
[15:44] <gionnico> NOW right click on media (nautilus) tell you so ** many options
[15:44] <sdk> wrong termknal
[15:44] <bazhang> gionnico, file a bug then. complaining will get you nothing
[15:44] <wer_> sdk: ok, thanks
[15:44] <gionnico> bazhang: i'm asking redirect me to the right place plz
[15:44] <wastl> afeijo: get into grub menue (shoud work by pressing ESC on bootup if its not displayed by default)
[15:44] <gionnico> i dont know who to get angry with
[15:45] <bazhang> !bugs | gionnico
[15:45] <Nic_> What the heck?
[15:45] <Nic_> I can't unmount it
[15:45] <qwd> Which version should I choose in UNetbootin if I want to install ubuntu-10.04.1-alternate-i386 ? There's only 10.04_Life 10.04_HdMedia and 10.04_NetInstall. Does it matter?
[15:45] <wastl> afeijo: then higlight the entry you want to boot and press 'e' for edit
[15:45] <bazhang> gionnico, this is the wrong place. file a bug.
[15:45] <Nic_> It says "error org.freedesktop.hal.device.interfacelocked.
[15:45] <Nic_> The hal freaks me out 0_o
[15:45] <BluesKaj> wer_, you shouldn't worry about not have build-essential unless  your gonna be without internet access
[15:46] <bazhang> BluesKaj, he is
[15:46] <wastl> afeijo: then find the line including root=/somepartition
[15:46] <imfede> bazhang: it restart autmoatically!
[15:46] <bazhang> BluesKaj, trying to get build-essential
[15:46] <gionnico> bazhang: ok thanks
[15:46] <wer_> BluesKaj: I want to install build-essential on a machine that's without internet connection.
[15:46] <Nic_> I can't unmount this drive for some reason
[15:46] <wastl> afeijo: edit this line and append 'init=3' to it and then boot
[15:46] <tynot> greetings! can anyone advise how to install a gui, ala kde, onto unbuntu server 10.04.1? we've someone offsite who wants to use terminal services into our server. does kde, or a reasonable equivalent, come with the ubuntu server iso?
[15:47] <SuperMiguel> which DE or WM do you guys recommend when running ubuntu on a Virtual Machine, or a 13 inch laptop?
[15:47] <qwd> Sorry, I didn't read the install notes, it says I should use HdMedia. Shame on me.
[15:47] <Nic_> In the "details" it says "the enclosing drive for the volume is locked"
[15:47] <TiK> Nic: i think yo chose the wrong one..
[15:47] <Nic_> No, that is the main one
[15:47] <TiK> Nic_: /dev/sda ?
[15:47] <Nic_> It is where my existing stuff is
[15:48] <afeijo> ok esc helped, it offered to restore and restarted X, it worked :) thanks wastl
[15:48] <afeijo> now I need to make it use my 2 screens, I'm using a virtual ubuntu with virtualbox
[15:48] <afeijo> do I need to edit xorg.conf ?
[15:48] <Untouchab1e_> So, Ive been googling this and no one seems to have a good answer..
[15:48] <TiK> Nic_: ?
[15:48] <Nic_> I got it unmounted
[15:49] <Untouchab1e_> Why do you need both "Eject" and "Safely Remove Drive" on a USB memory stick in Ubuntu 10.04?
[15:49] <TiK> uhm ok
[15:49] <Untouchab1e_> is there any difference between them?
[15:49] <TiK> Untouchab1e_: not really
[15:49] <wastl> afeijo: Splitscreen is a setting of the graphics driver....for my Nvidia card the nvidia setup gui does that
[15:49] <Untouchab1e_> TiK: then it seems redundant to have them both
[15:49] <indigo> tynot: what do you mean by "terminal services"?
[15:49] <TiK> Untouchab1e_: w/e
[15:49] <OerHeks>  Untouchab1e_ safely remove, it checks if any files are open
[15:50] <afeijo> wastl: but to virtualbox that should not be the case... its probably manual
[15:50] <Untouchab1e_> Microsoft had them both back in the day too.. while Ubuntu didnt.. now it seems the tables have turned >_<
[15:50] <spunk> Hello! Are there any available on-line defrag tool for ext4?
[15:50] <BSaboia> hi guys
[15:50] <Untouchab1e_> OerHeks: so why use "eject" then?
[15:50] <Speiros> For fucks sake
[15:50] <mayhew> Hello!
[15:50] <bazhang> spunk, not needed
[15:50] <bazhang> Speiros, watch the language
[15:50] <spunk> bazhang, sure?
[15:50] <BSaboia> I've just installed Ubuntu server, annd I'm struggling to configure SAMBA
[15:50] <OerHeks> Ubunturific, only if you are sure there is no file/window using it.
[15:50] <tynot> indigo, advice on virtual GUI shell (ala kde) for ubuntu server. does the server install iso come with a desktop package?
[15:50] <imfede> bazhang:  http://imfede.pastebin.com/e7nN8KG6
[15:50] <BSaboia> I can create a share, but can't set permissions
[15:51] <BSaboia> at leas WRITE permissions
[15:51] <BSaboia> I can read the folder, but can't Write to it...
[15:51] <wastl> afeijo: you mean virual desktops in your X.org?
[15:51] <mayhew> if im updatinog from 9.10 to 10.04 will my setings and programs be messed with?
[15:51] <mayhew> updating
[15:51] <afeijo> wastl: no, 2 monitors, 2 screens
[15:51] <indigo> tynot: whether the iso comes with it or not, kde is downloadable and installable with whatever package management tool you like. Not sure kde is what you want, though.
[15:51] <afeijo> wastl: but I just found out that virtualbox dont support it to linux yet, only windows :(
[15:51] <wastl> kk
[15:52] <sdk> spunk: EXT4 is VERY good at avoiding disk fragmentation.  every 40 reboots or so, your system will do a check disk automagically.  Otherwise google e[3~d
[15:52] <oliver_> i installed a nvidia card in my ubuntu computer that had a ati before and i remove the ati drivers and installed the nvidia but it laggs little when i move windows and so.... heeelp
[15:52] <sdk> google fragmentation ext4
[15:52] <sdk> bbiab.
[15:52] <imfede> afeijo:  my vrtualbox run ubuntu perfectly
[15:52] <Nic_> Isn't it telling you to rm -rf here http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome ?
[15:52] <afeijo> imfede: your ubuntu is the guest or host?
[15:52] <Nic_> At the end
[15:52] <TiK> oliver: tweak your refresh rate and set vsync on....
[15:52] <afeijo> dual screen works only for windows guest, I'm runing ubuntu guest
[15:52] <tynot> indigo, we just would like a gui for someone offsite to remote into the ubuntu server. I'm sure I'm not explaining it well, bear with me, please. appreciate your assistance.
[15:53] <oliver_> TIK: how will i do that?
[15:53] <mayhew> if i'm updating from 9.10 to 10.04 will my settings and programs be messed with?
[15:53] <imfede> afeijo:  host i think
[15:53] <indigo> tynot: in that case, first i'd ask if that someone can run an X server on his machine
[15:53] <coz_> oliver_,  which nvidia card  and is compiz running?
[15:53] <afeijo> imfede: yeah, virtualbox dont support my scenario yet
[15:53] <TiK> Nic_: after you resize your partition just mv the music files onto it
[15:53] <Nic_> TiK: That is what I was thinking I would do
[15:53] <TiK> Nic_: you are not making a seperate home partition that would mess mint up
[15:54] <hate1> need help i must be a retard ... i can't past from a webpage into vi
[15:54] <indigo> tynot: if that someone is running Mac OS, Linux, BSD, or pretty much any Unix, the answer is yes. If he is running windows, the answer is yes, but maybe for a fee.
[15:54] <oliver_> coz_ nvidia gefore 240 gts 1gb zone edition
[15:54] <TiK> hate1: use pico/nano ;)
[15:54] <Nic_> Then I can install mint and move the music/media into mint, then delete that partition?
[15:54] <mayhew> if i'm updating from 9.10 to 10.04 will my settings and programs be messed with?
[15:54] <coz_> oliver_,  and is compiz running as well?
[15:54] <oliver_> coz_ yes
[15:54] <wastl> I am running an Nvidia 9500GT here with compiz on using dualhead with two displays and several compiz effects and it runs fine :)
[15:55] <coz_> oliver_,  did you choose the   "nvidia_current"  driver when you installed it?
[15:55] <hate1> never used nano or pico
[15:55] <bazhang> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/539794 imfede its a bug
[15:55] <oliver_> coz_ yes i did
[15:55] <TiK> Nic_: well you can delete the files off the partition but you will just have unused space if you delete the partition
[15:55] <tynot> indigo, as callus as it sounds, that's not my concern. I'm not terribly concerned who or how they'll access it virutally. I just need to set it up so that someone can use Xwindow.
[15:55] <coz_> oliver_,  and I assume you already rebooted the system after you installed the driver ...yes?
[15:55] <tynot> hope that made sense, indigo.
[15:55] <oliver_> coz_ yes
[15:55] <TiK> Nic_: its useful for backups though
[15:56] <Nic_> TiK: Cant I just delete that partition and resize the mint one?
[15:56] <oliver_> coz_ put compiz off and it runs very smooth... something wrong with compiz?
[15:56] <imfede> bazhang:  so no solution?
[15:56] <coz_> oliver_,  no  we probably have to tweak a few things hold on
[15:56] <bazhang> imfede, you read the link?
[15:56] <indigo> tynot: well then, just install whatever graphical programs you want, and tell "them" to install an X11 server, and you are done.
[15:56] <oliver_> coz_ alright :)
[15:56] <spunk> sdk, I recon system disks will stay unfragged easily, but with a media disk or a disk with virtual machine disk images that are frequently created and deleted will get fragmented...
[15:57] <grawity> Which package contains the "human" theme for notification-daemon?
[15:57] <barberan> Is there a sense to have the ubuntu on the desktop instead of having win-7 ?
[15:57] <guest> how do I found out why my hard drive is not mounting properly?
[15:57] <guest> on start it says "the disk drive for / is not ready yet or not present"
[15:57] <imfede> bazhang:  im reading... i find no slution... only a problem
[15:57] <BluesKaj> wer, the only thing I can suggest is to use a live cd as a source for build-essential , but I'm not sure it's even included
[15:57] <tynot> Cool. I'm a Mac user. Is there errata somewhere for me to remote gui into this server, once I've finished installing it?  Something akin to Remote Desktop (tsc) in Windoze?
[15:58] <guest> but SMART passes, and  mount -o rw,remount /dev/sda1 works
[15:58] <guest> but on start it mounts as read-only
[15:58] <bazhang> imfede,  a couple of workarounds though
[15:58] <fancybit> ?
[15:58] <TiK> Nic_: ?
[15:58] <indigo> guest: perhaps /etc/fstab is not accurate?
[15:58] <mayhew> if i'm updating from 9.10 to 10.04 will my settings and programs be messed with?
[15:58] <TiK> Nic_: i guess
[15:58] <guest> indigo, it is.. UUID=bla / ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1
[15:59] <guest> indigo, is there a way to know why it is mounting as readonly?
[15:59] <grawity> tynot: either VNC (Vino) (which is quite like RDP) or X11-over-SSH (which integrates quite closely with the client desktop)
[15:59] <guest> i.e. what is causing the error?
[15:59] <coz_> oliver_,  meet me in #compiz   maybe one of us can help there
[15:59] <tynot> indigo, and more importantly, does ubuntu server 10.04.1 come with any graphical packages?
[15:59] <hate1> ok im lost how do you paste from clipboard in nano
[15:59] <Nic_> TiK: I think that makes the most sense instead of keeping a big ol' empty space on my computer once I have mint
[15:59] <Nic_> It is making the partitions now, by the way
[15:59] <imfede> bazhang:  someone suggest to change kernel...how can i do it?
[15:59] <Nic_> It takes a looooooooooong time 0_o
[15:59] <tynot> grawity, thanks. i'll look into it.
[15:59] <WinstonSmith> hate1, try shift+insert
[15:59] <sdk_away> wer_: FTP the Debian testing images, I believe they have the full DVD set, and add them to the sources.list  You can use the ubuntu Admin -> software sources tool for that.. it's at least worth a try.
[15:59] <TiK> Nic_: yeah well I just having 2 partitions
[16:00] <oliver_> coz_ ok :)
[16:00] <sdk_away> I really have to do.. Peace.
[16:00] <TiK> Nic_: s/just/like
[16:00] <indigo> tynot: like i said, what's on the ISO is really not important, if you have internet access. The only difference between the server and not-server flavors of ubuntu is the packages they install by default. Once they are installed, they get the same package list online, and can install the same things.
[16:00] <mayhew> Need Help with upgrading Ubuntu from 9.10 to 10.04
[16:00] <wer_> sdk_away: ok
[16:00] <wer_> sdk_away: I am trying sudo apt-get remove build-essential and then again used aptoncd. it detectedit now
[16:01] <wer_> sdk_away: I am trying sudo apt-get remove build-essential and then again used aptoncd. it detected it now
[16:01] <TiK> Nic_: good luck! bbl
[16:01] <Nic_> TiK: Thanks :D
[16:01] <mayhew> if i'm updating from 9.10 to 10.04 will my settings and programs be messed with?
[16:01] <Nic_> TiK: You really have helped, thanks a bunch ^_^
[16:01] <TiK> mayhew: no one is going to help you if you keep repeating yourself try google or forums
[16:02] <tynot> indigo, can you tell I'm not a Linux god? I'd have to research how to do that from  linux's command line. I've gotten so far away from it, I've forgotten how to do most of that, although I could at one time. :)
[16:02] <indigo> mayhew: yes, they will be upgraded. You have a backup of anything important, right?
[16:02] <TiK> Nic_: i run mint on another computer and I like it
[16:02] <wer_> sdk_away: how do I use apton cd on my system wothout internet connection now
[16:02] <wer_> ?
[16:02] <mayhew> thats all ineeded to know. thanks.
[16:02] <guest> indigo, the drive also passes fsck.. this issue only occured after upgrading to lucid
[16:02] <TiK> nic: afkerz
[16:02] <imfede> bazhang:  and here it says that he can't found any network... but my problem is not the same. my pc crashes when i plug the wireless card. it reonigze the network, it tried to connect and then it freeze
[16:03] <corpsicle> hello
[16:03] <Nic_> TiK: My friend uses it, so I wanted to try it anyways :)
[16:03] <indigo> tynot: well, you didn't ask about how to do anything. Easiest way to install packages is with "apt-get install <package>". See the man page, and also apt-cache.
[16:03] <wakan> fr
[16:03] <TiK> Nic_: its just ubuntu with codec's an a windows feel.. my parents use it
[16:03] <indigo> guest: hm, i really don't have any more ideas then
[16:03] <corpsicle> im having some problems with svn and gnome-keyring, it just tells me "could not authenticate to server" ... could it be it has saved my IP somwhere and it has changed ? and thus it cant identify me
[16:04] <guest> indigo, i guess i'll just make the failsafe load it as read/write to workaroudn it :_\
[16:04] <lungan> If I _never_ have wrote a program in my life, and want to learn how to use c++ (or what ever name it is) which is the first book I may read?
[16:04] <jetsaredim> if i'm using vnc to connect to my desktop - is that enough reason for vino-server to be consuming nearly 50% cpu?
[16:05] <tynot> indigo, ha! right? one more thing... do we essentially get the same rudimentary server functionality with ubuntu enterprise cloud plus cloud operability than just a simple ubuntu server build?
[16:06] <indigo> tynot: i've no idea.
[16:07] <smarky> hello
[16:07] <WinstonSmith> !ping
[16:07] <wer_> So finally I am leaving ubuntu forever as there doesn't seem to be a solution at all
[16:07] <bazhang> wer_, to what
[16:08] <indigo> So, anyone have an idea how to get my 9.10 upgrade unstuck from "Processing triggers for menu ..." ?
[16:08] <tynot> indigo, thx anyway. all of our servers are in an existing cloud offsite, but it may be nice to have that functionality down the road, which, again, could be another package install. thx again for the syntactical refresher. peace.
[16:08] <uRock> don't be a troll
[16:08] <wer_> bazhang: may be suse. Even if I use apton cd. How do I get that image working on my instllation without Internet
[16:08] <wer_> ?
[16:08] <bazhang> uRock, what?
[16:08] <uRock> not u
[16:08] <bazhang> uRock, not needed nor appropriate here
[16:08] <GreenDotQ> Hi all
[16:08] <smarky> some one here?
[16:08] <WinstonSmith> !hi
[16:09] <BluesKaj> wer_, use the full dvd as sdk_away suggested
[16:09] <GreenDotQ> can i ask one question about ubuntu?
[16:09] <bazhang> wer_, aptoncd is quite simple to use
[16:09] <WinstonSmith> !ask GreenDotQ
[16:09] <wer_> bazhang: would require another 12 hours to do that then
[16:09] <Nef1> yes tell me
[16:09] <bazhang> wer_, well easily doable. your choice really.
[16:09] <uRock> the problem with aptoncd is the fact you need internet to install it on the machine before you can use it to install everything
[16:10] <GreenDotQ> how to made smaller icons on desktop?
[16:10] <wer_> bazhang: I wrote the image to a cd, but wondering how would I restore that on another machine without apton cd ?
[16:10] <bazhang> wer_, add it to your repos list in the other machine. simple.
[16:10] <hasanibrahim> hello i am in ubuntu-live-cd
[16:11] <wer_> bazhang: you mean the cd ?
[16:11] <uRock> hasanibrahim, and?
[16:11] <hasanibrahim> i want to reedit grup menu but when i try
[16:11] <tynot> indigo, thx!
[16:11] <hasanibrahim> to enter sudo grup command on terminal
[16:11] <wer_> bazhang: can you please tell how do I do that ?
[16:11] <bazhang> wer_, the one that aptoncd generates and you burned yes
[16:11] <GreenDotQ> People! It's real to make a small icons on desktop?
[16:11] <hasanibrahim> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo grub sudo: grub: command not found
[16:12] <wer_> bazhang: I remember something sudo nano sources.lst but what to add there ?
[16:12] <bazhang> hasanibrahim, grub? or grub2
[16:12] <hasanibrahim> grub2
[16:12] <hasanibrahim> bazhang:
[16:12] <wer_> bazhang: I never added a cd to a repo
[16:12] <bazhang> hasanibrahim, read the wiki yet?
[16:12] <hasanibrahim> i need to restore it. i have just installed windows so i lost
[16:12] <uRock> wer_, you can add a cd via the Software Sources application in the menus
[16:12] <hasanibrahim> bazhang: i read
[16:13] <hasanibrahim> also i printed it
[16:13] <wer_> uRock: ah yes
[16:13] <GreenDotQ> Who here have Ubuntu 9x?
[16:13] <bazhang> wer_, did you install build-essential on the kubuntu machine? as well as aptoncd?
[16:13] <hasanibrahim> but the first stage must be `sudo grub`
[16:13] <hasanibrahim> but its not working
[16:13] <uRock> GreenDotQ, I have it on one machine, what's up?
[16:14] <WinstonSmith> hasanibrahim, shouldnt that be grub-install?
[16:14] <zimnyx> Ubuntu server installer doesn't install Grub in last step if I got hardware raid enabled. I checked and root partition created on RAID has bootable flag set. Any ideas?
[16:14] <wer_> bazhang: build-essential was already there so I did sudo pat-get remove build-essential and then reinstalled it( don't no if it removed all dependencies also) as initially apton cd didn't show up build-essential in package list
[16:14] <wer_> *sudo apt-get
[16:15] <uRock> hasanibrahim, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[16:15] <bazhang> wer_, and created a cd with aptoncd?
[16:15] <wer_> bazhang: is there a way to remove all dependencies of build-esential also and then reinstall it
[16:15] <wer_> bazhang: yes
[16:15] <WinstonSmith> !pt
[16:15] <hasanibrahim> WinstonSmith: i have installed ubuntu; than installwindows ON ubuntu; so i lost grub
[16:16] <WinstonSmith> hasanibrahim, look the link uRock gave you please
[16:16] <WinstonSmith> !ping
[16:17] <imfede> -.-
[16:17] <CyberCr33p> I have an Ubuntu VPS and every time I reboot it the settings on /etc/network/interfaces get lost. Any idea how to fix it ?
[16:17] <bazhang> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/create-backup-of-all-installed-packages-using-aptoncd-in-ubuntu.html wer_ here is a guide with pictures etc
[16:17] <bazhang> WinstonSmith, /msg ubottu please
[16:17] <DoubleString> hey all
[16:18]  * wer_ looks
[16:18] <WinstonSmith> bazhang, with what plz?
[16:18] <bazhang> WinstonSmith, all the !ping etc
[16:19] <GuitarShredder> hi
[16:19] <WinstonSmith> ahh ok so its a PM sorry
[16:19] <WinstonSmith> wont clutter again :O
[16:19] <met_> I'd like to replace °C with "degrees" in the variable, but "$current_temp = [` echo $current_temp | sed 's/\°C/degrees/g' `]" doesn't work
[16:19] <wer_> bazhang: thanks but still the problem remains that whether remove build-essential removed all dependencies
[16:20] <wer_> ?
[16:20] <bazhang> wer_, just reinstall it then to make sure?
[16:21] <wer_> bazhang: I reinstalled it using apt-get but it installed build-esential only and not its dependencies g++ etc
[16:21] <blackdoggy> hi
[16:21] <Polysics> hello
[16:21] <uRock> hi
[16:21] <blackdoggy> can any one help setting up thundre bird
[16:21] <hasanibrahim> WinstonSmith: please check this http://paste.ubuntu.com/484536/
[16:21] <wer_> bazhang: so probably it installed that 7.1 KB only and not it's dependencies
[16:21] <hasanibrahim> which one must i mount
[16:21] <Polysics> anyone knows if wget has an option to report file size only, without download?
[16:22] <uRock> blackdoggy, what email host do you have?
[16:22] <wer_> bazhang: I mean its dependencies are still may not be in aptoncd image
[16:22] <blackdoggy> yahoo
[16:22] <newuserX> hi every
[16:22] <uRock> won't work
[16:22] <cryptide> if i have a rsync command running in a script, and it is still running, how do i tap into what it is spitting out to console?
[16:22] <Janhouse> How can I disable incoming connections (make myself passive) on some ports using iptables?
[16:23] <uRock> Yahoo blocks it unless you have a paid account, blackdoggy
[16:23] <qwd> I'm trying to install Ubuntu to a laptop with usb memory. I used UNetbootin but when I try to boot from the usb memory I get the message "Missing operating system". The usb drive uses FAT32 and has the bootable flag activated. Do I need to format it in any particular way or enable any other flags? What's wrong?
[16:23] <blackdoggy> u rock,  i  m in australia
[16:23] <hasanibrahim> uRock: please check this; i will do the directions on the URL
[16:23] <hasanibrahim> http://paste.ubuntu.com/484536/
[16:23] <hasanibrahim> but which one mut i mount
[16:23] <newuserX> is there a language converter software??
[16:23] <blackdoggy> and it should be free here
[16:23] <WinstonSmith> hasanibrahim, as / for ubuntu?
[16:23] <wer_> newuserX: for what ?
[16:24] <newuserX> like translate.google.com
[16:24] <uRock> the free version doesn't work with t-bird
[16:24] <Nic_> Is it weird that my partitions are still resizing?
[16:24] <newuserX> from Eng. to Italian
[16:24] <Nic_> It has been a while
[16:25] <WinstonSmith> nic_ it takes some time depending on the amount of data present
[16:25] <hasanibrahim> WinstonSmith: i want to have a grub which must show ubuntu and windows on the grub
[16:25] <wer_> bazhang: let me reframe my question: Is there a way to remove a package completely along with its dependencies ?
[16:25] <blackdoggy> so  is there any option?
[16:25] <wer_> newuserX: Google Translate ? not a s/w though
[16:25] <bazhang> wer_, not sure what the issue is. just try reinstalling build-essential and see what the download size is.
[16:25] <Keba> i am attempting to save a mail account using imap and evolution, after setting up this mail account in evolution, downloading the mais and clicking on each mail folder, i have lots of folders in ~/.evolution/mail/imap/$username@$mailserver/folders/ -- but these folders do not contain mails, only a 0 byte big "journal" file
[16:26] <newuserX> Software to convert language .
[16:26] <WinstonSmith> hasanibrahim, maybe join #grub for that
[16:26] <Keba> well, and there is a sqlite file (1.3 mib) entitled "folders.db", but i don't believe all mails are saved in this small db? how to save mail using imap and evolution while keeping the folder structure??
[16:26] <SCD[Eire]> Offtopic: What channel would I go to for help with a banner design?
[16:26] <Nic_> WinstonSmith: In that case I am going to go eat breakfast, hopefull it will be done by now
[16:26] <wer_> bazhang: ah 48 KBs
[16:26] <Nic_> *then
[16:26] <eLdiaBL0> newuserX , you need software?
[16:26] <WinstonSmith> nic good idea bon apetite :)
[16:27] <uRock> hasan, in the LiveCD does running the sudo update-grub work?
[16:27] <wer_> bazhang: rebooting my system for giving it a try. would be back soon :)
[16:27] <azareth> if I have a bash script
[16:28] <azareth> how can I see are there any errors during its execution
[16:28] <WinstonSmith> azareth, instead of bash in the beginning put bash -x
[16:28] <WinstonSmith> on the 1st line of the script
[16:29] <newuserX> ya. on ubuntu
[16:30] <CyberCr33p> I have an Ubuntu VPS and every time I reboot it the settings on /etc/network/interfaces get lost. Any idea how to fix it ?
[16:30] <newuserX> [##overflow] You've reached this channel because the channel you tried to enter has been configured with join throttling (+J). There may be a clonebot attack in progress there, or simply unusually heavy interest. Please leave this channel and try again. Your channel may also be "identified-only" (+r); join #please_register for more information. If you need help, message a freenode staffer or email support@freenode.net .... Thanks!
[16:30] <uRock> azareth, add 2> "filename" to the end of the commands and the error will be sent to the file
[16:30] <newuserX> what is this message?
[16:30] <eLdiaBL0> newuserX , why you wont use an online translator ?
[16:31] <azareth> uRock : thanks
[16:31] <uRock> =)
[16:32] <eLdiaBL0> newuserX , it seems that some kind of script has redirected you to an other channel
[16:32] <newuserX> ya. but why??
[16:33] <uRock> 1 out of 3 startings of xchat changes #ubuntu to #ubuntu-unregged
[16:33] <newuserX> I want to join ##php but can't.
[16:33] <eLdiaBL0> newuserX , because of a script
[16:33] <jrib> !register | newuserX
[16:34] <newuserX> so i need to register for it.
[16:34] <eLdiaBL0> newuserX , probably...
[16:34] <uRock> newuserX, they like to do that so it is easier to k-line people
[16:36] <zebul0n> is someone running a webserver on localhost ?
[16:36] <jrib> !anyone | zebul0n
[16:36] <craigbass1976> Isn't there some command to install a lamp server all in one go, rather than the individual packages (apache, php, mysql, etc)
[16:36] <jrib> !lamp | craigbass1976
[16:37] <newuserX> uff
[16:37] <wer_> nazhang: I added apton cd as a repo
[16:37] <zebul0n> u are right :) I went to salestank.com and it displays my localhost directory ! How is that possible ?
[16:37] <Te3-BloodyIron> how do you check from the CLI which groups a user is a member of?
[16:37] <wer_> bazhang: but isn't able to install build-essential from there
[16:37] <wer_> bazhang:
[16:37] <newuserX> uRock: what is k line?
[16:38] <jrib> zebul0n: check your /etc/hosts?
[16:38] <wer_> bazhang: I did sudo apt-get update and them sudo apt-get install build-essential
[16:38] <zebul0n> already checked
[16:38] <jrib> !who | zebul0n
[16:38] <PseudoPodo> Quit
[16:39] <uRock> newuserX, it is a permanent ban of the registered IP from being able to sign into freenode
[16:39] <jrib> zebul0n: well I see a parked domain here.  Maybe it's your router
[16:39] <uRock> quit?
[16:39] <newuserX> So I may be baned permanently??
[16:40] <uRock> they can if you are being bad
[16:40] <wer_> bazhang: it says: Err cdrom://[AptonCD for ubuntu lucid - i386 CD1]/packages/linux-libc-dev_2.6.32.24.41.-i386.deb File Not Found
[16:40] <zebul0n> jrib, I saw as well, that's why I asked for someone running a webserver localy to check as well
[16:40] <gionnico> !bug #625380
[16:40] <uRock> !ot
[16:40] <gionnico> !bug 625380
[16:40] <newuserX> o.  so if i register then can i enter??
[16:40] <jrib> zebul0n: what?  What is your question?
[16:40] <blue_anna> is ruby 1.9.2 getting a deb package soon?
[16:40] <gionnico> well here it is: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/625380
[16:41] <gionnico> good readin'
[16:41]  * gionnico 's weight has gone a little, now :)
[16:41] <jrib> newuserX: yes...
[16:42] <hasanibrahim> hello again i got this error when i try to rrestore grub
[16:42] <hasanibrahim> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/ /dev/sda6 /usr/sbin/grub-setup: warn: Attempting to install GRUB to a partition instead of the MBR.  This is a BAD idea..
[16:42] <newuserX> that was crazy
[16:42] <uRock> newuserX, also after registering, you can have your IP cloaked, so that it doesn't show your IP in the channels when you sign in
[16:42] <peaces> how can i install sun-java6-jre in a script - i am supposed to accept the license interactively, but that's not an option it has to be fully automated. ?
[16:42] <zebul0n> jrib, can someone running a webserver on localhost check the url salestank.com on his browser to tell me if it displays his local directory, just like it does for me ?
[16:42] <ZykoticK9_nothom> hasanibrahim, sda woule be the MBR of your first drive
[16:42] <mickster04> hasanibrahim: it means it wont get picked when the computer boots up? unless you have another bootloader that can select sda6
[16:43] <jrib> zebul0n: it does not.
[16:43] <blue_anna> peaces, check out expect
[16:43] <jrib> zebul0n: why would it...
[16:43] <ZykoticK9_nothom> peaces, others have asked the same question - i've never seen an answer
[16:43] <zebul0n> jrib, i don't know but it does for me, and I can't understand what's goin on
[16:43] <hasanibrahim> mickster04: /usr/sbin/grub-setup: error: if you really want blocklists, use --force.
[16:43] <jrib> zebul0n: what does « host salestank.com » return for you?
[16:44] <hasanibrahim> this is the other error.
[16:44] <newuserX> hay
[16:44] <uRock> is for horses
[16:44] <mickster04> hasanibrahim: just type in setup-grub, you shouldn't nned the /usr/bin/
[16:44] <newuserX>  #css :Cannot send to channel   . what is this?
[16:45] <jrib> newuserX: general channel administration questions are offtopic here, try #freenode
[16:45] <newuserX> ya
[16:45] <zebul0n> jrib: salestank.com has address 68.178.232.143
[16:45] <zebul0n> salestank.com has IPv6 address ::1
[16:45] <zebul0n> ok !!!! it must be an ipv6 problem then !
[16:45] <hasanibrahim> mickster04: i dont want to lost windows on boot. i only want to restore grub2 than i could choose windows and ubuntu
[16:46] <jrib> zebul0n: indeed, note "host" returns the same info for me
[16:46] <wer_> iit really sucks to use ubuntu without an internet connection. We should make this task rather more easy
[16:46] <wer_> uRock: How do I run the script generated by synaptic for package dwnload ?
[16:47] <outer_space> how do i configure chrome to use open source java or sun java?
[16:47] <jrib> zebul0n: that might be a configuration issue on their end?
[16:47] <newuserX> all these chat suck!
[16:47] <peaces> blue_anna: ZykoticK9_nothom: looks like expect will work, found some more info here fyi http://superuser.com/questions/116014/automatically-agree-to-license-agreement-when-using-apt-get-install-sun-java6-jr
[16:47] <zebul0n> jrib: ok, I understand, it only do that whit firefox, not chrome ! that's definitely an ipv6 problem as ::1 is localhost
[16:47] <mickster04> hasanibrahim: well you can install grub onto the normal MBR then it can boot into windows
[16:47] <mickster04> !grub2 | hasanibrahim
[16:47] <jrib> zebul0n: you can disable ipv6 in about:config if you want
[16:47] <blue_anna> peaces, god luck :)
[16:47] <blue_anna> * good
[16:47] <wer_> wer_
[16:48] <blue_anna> is ruby 1.9.2 getting a deb package soon?
[16:48] <uRock> wer_ I haven't used aptoncd in a long time and I had an internet connection
[16:48] <mickster04> NewaWrk: that doesn't make sense...
[16:48] <zebul0n> well, i won't, but you helped me figure out what was goin on, thanks a lot !
[16:48] <rotham> hey... will virtual box let me run xp inside of ubuntu?
[16:49] <wer_> uRock: ah I am niot asking for aptoncd, I wanted to know how to run the script I generated using synaptic fir build-essential
[16:49] <AndrewMC> rotham~ yes it will
[16:49] <mickster04> NewaWrk: sorry wrong guy
[16:49] <mickster04> rotham: yes
[16:49] <rotham> thanks
[16:50] <wer_> uRock: I don't the exact thing to run for downloading .deb via script
[16:50] <wer_> uRock: I have the script ready
[16:51] <zebul0n> jrib: thank you, see ya
[16:52] <uRock> wer_ I've never done that
[16:52] <guest_> is there an alternative to errors=remount-ro in fstab? to remount as rw?
[16:52] <lungan> How do I get the buttons on the window boarder on the right side instead of left?
[16:52] <mickster04> lungan: gconf
[16:52] <ZykoticK9_nothom> !controls | lungan
[16:53] <d3v0> my ubuntu password has been changed
[16:53] <d3v0> can i get some help in finding out what it was changed to
[16:53] <mickster04> d3v0: not without you chnging it it hasn't
[16:53] <mickster04> ...
[16:53] <mickster04> !password
[16:54] <Te3-BloodyIron> how do you check from the CLI which groups a user is a member of?
[16:54] <d3v0> i'm pretty sure someone has changed it
[16:54] <chrisbuntunerd> Hello Guest6669 and welcome to #ubuntu
[16:54] <outer_space> how do you make chrome use sun java or open source java if you have both?
[16:54] <wer_> So no other option but to remove kubuntu and move back to windows
[16:54] <OerHeks> d3v0, maybe caps-lock is presssed ?
[16:54] <d3v0> nope
[16:54] <chrisbuntunerd> Hello subqq and welcome to #ubuntu
[16:54] <chrisbuntunerd> Hello subqq and welcome to #ubuntu
[16:54] <d3v0> tried all that
[16:55] <chrisbuntunerd> hey! peace and welcome to #ubuntu
[16:55] <chrisbuntunerd> Hello peace and welcome to #ubuntu
[16:55] <chrisbuntunerd> Hello peace and welcome to #ubuntu
[16:55] <mickster04> chrisbuntunerd: what are you doing?
[16:55] <FloodBot3> chrisbuntunerd: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:55] <Pici> chrisbuntunerd: Please disable that.
[16:55] <wer_> Really tried hard to get it work, but no success, i can't believe it's so difficult to install a single package without internet connection'
[16:55] <chrisbuntunerd> hey! GORE-Daddy and welcome to #ubuntu
[16:55] <chrisbuntunerd> Hello GORE-Daddy and welcome to #ubuntu
[16:55] <chrisbuntunerd> Hello GORE-Daddy and welcome to #ubuntu
[16:55] <wer_> in ubuntu
[16:55] <FloodBot3> chrisbuntunerd: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:55] <chrisbuntunerd> hey! medfly and welcome to #ubuntu
[16:55] <chrisbuntunerd> Hello medfly and welcome to #ubuntu
[16:55] <chrisbuntunerd> Hello medfly and welcome to #ubuntu
[16:55] <mickster04> lol chrisbuntunerd fail
[16:55] <peace> hi ubuntu
[16:55] <medfly> how do I restart X? alt+ctrl+backspace doesn't seem to work.
[16:55] <d3v0> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNKZTVvgTjY
[16:56] <ZykoticK9_nothom> medfly, alt+sysrq+k is the new way
[16:56] <d3v0> woops
[16:56] <d3v0> disregard that
[16:56] <FloodBot3> d3v0: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:56] <mickster04> medfly: it's changed... I can't remember the bot shortcut
[16:56] <qwd> To anyone curious, I had a problem with booting a USB memory for installing Ubuntu. It was created with UNetbootin and when trying to boot from it I received the message: "Missing operating system". I changed the partition scheme on the USB memory from GUID to MBR, that seems to have done the trick. I also changed file system from FAT32 to FAT16, but I don't think that's what solved anything. Hope this helps someone else.
[16:56] <medfly> ZykoticK9_nothom: ugh -.-
[16:56] <medfly> ZykoticK9_nothom: that's really stupid.
[16:56] <medfly> ZykoticK9_nothom: are you sure that's the way?
[16:56] <ZykoticK9_nothom> medfly, it was changed for "accessibility" reasons actually
[16:57] <OerHeks> qwd use Fat32 for unetbootin.
[16:57] <chrisbuntunerd> sorry everybody about that
[16:57] <Pici> chrisbuntunerd: Thank you for disabling that.
[16:57] <jk_> Te3-BloodyIron, use "cat /etc/group|grep user" with user's name instead of user.
[16:57] <ZykoticK9_nothom> medfly, from cli you could use "sudo service gdm restart" if you prefer
[16:57] <medfly> ZykoticK9_nothom: doesn't seem more accessible to me :P
[16:57] <chrisbuntunerd> was just trying script
[16:57] <chrisbuntunerd> !flood
[16:57] <mickster04> chrisbuntunerd: that was a bad script to run on #ubuntu
[16:57] <medfly> ZykoticK9_nothom: ok, thanks
[16:57] <chrisbuntunerd> mickster04 sorry
[16:57] <Te3-BloodyIron> jk_: thx
[16:58] <chrisbuntunerd> ubuntu-offtopic we go
[16:58] <mickster04> chrisbuntunerd: :D tis ok...just be a bit more careful in future
[16:58] <qwd> medfly: go to System -> Preferences -> Keyboard -> Layouts -> Options -> Key sequence to kill X Server
[16:58] <medfly> ok so unfortunately that doesn't seem to help. I have these really random issues, and I'm sure it'd be resolved if I just reboot it'd work fine...
[16:58] <medfly> but I'm not used to needing it on linux! :P
[16:58] <qwd> OerHeks: Is there a particular reason I should reformat the usb memory and do it again? It booted up fine, I didn't start the install though since I need to backup everything on the laptop first.
[16:59] <OerHeks> qwd did you check the .iso with Md5Sum before using it ?
[16:59] <vicpeng> Te3-BloodyIron, just use groups
[16:59] <medfly> qwd: thanks
[16:59] <OerHeks> qwd, yes, unetbootin requires Fat32
[16:59] <medfly> I sure hope a reboot magically fixes this.
[17:00] <qwd> OerHeks: Nope. The problem is solved though, I just shared my solution. From a quick google there doesn't seem to be any problem with FAT16 and UNetbootin
[17:00]  * peaces > peace
[17:00] <qwd> medfly: that's not really a reboot though, only restarts the x server
[17:01] <chrisbuntunerd> hey! milan and welcome to #ubuntu
[17:01] <chrisbuntunerd> hey! Ralfi and welcome to #ubuntu
[17:01] <chrisbuntunerd> hey! Kitr88 and welcome to #ubuntu
[17:01] <mickster04> chrisbuntunerd: !!!!
[17:01] <jrib> chrisbuntunerd: ...
[17:02] <chrisbuntunerd> hey! Maletor and welcome to #ubuntu
[17:02] <sdasda>  hello I am newbie for lubuntu and have the following problems 1) I have connected my old laptop to my LCD via the s-video and the picture is jittering and almost can't see a thing 2) how do I enable remote desktop in lubuntu ?
[17:03] <eugb> hi all.  i'm having an issue with xorg in ubuntu 10.04
[17:03] <eugb> just installed a new microsoft wireless optical mouse; and it's behaving strangely and causing xorg CPU to spike
[17:03] <mickster04> sdasda: you have to enable remote desktop on your pc, though i can't remember where those settings are, not sure about the s-video problem
[17:05] <medfly> qwd: I know that, but restarting X didn't work.
[17:07] <sdasda> anyone know how to enable remote desktop in lubuntu ???
[17:08] <xzil0> hi guys im trying to install ubuntu 5.04 in vbox for testing. it wont make partitions. any1 had same problem?
[17:08] <rethus> have 10.04, how can i install php4 and php5 on my apache? I didn't found any php4-packages
[17:08] <jpds> xzil0: Ubuntu 5.04 ?
[17:08] <jpds> rethus: PHP4 is dead.
[17:08] <xzil0> jpds, yeah :)
[17:08] <rethus> thats not the question, but i need it for development of older applications
[17:08] <jpds> xzil0: I..... really don't think that's supported anymore.
[17:08] <jrib> xzil0: ubuntu 5.04 -- also dead :)
[17:09] <mickster04> sdasda: system>admin>remote...
[17:09] <xzil0> :(
[17:09] <kickingintender> hey whos talking about ubuntu 5.04
[17:09] <xzil0> tnx for respond ;)
[17:09] <xzil0> me
[17:09] <xzil0> kickingintender,  me
[17:09] <jrib> xzil0: why do you want 5.04 as opposed to 10.04?
[17:09] <mickster04> !who
[17:09] <hydra__> where is the best place to go for help on a network routing problem i am having under 10.04
[17:09] <kickingintender> is there no x server in ubuntu server
[17:10] <mickster04> sdasda: sorry opreferences not admin
[17:10] <xzil0> jrib, i want to try some buffer overflows
[17:10] <mickster04> kickingintender: no..
[17:10] <mickster04> kickingintender: its all CLI
[17:10] <jrib> kickingintender: not installed by default, correct
[17:10] <d3v0> im trying to reset my password
[17:10] <d3v0> but grub doesnt load in xubuntu
[17:10] <jpds> jrib: Thank God for that!
[17:10] <d3v0> do i have to install something else
[17:10] <fanjabi> hi everyone, i experience tearing watching video, can someone help me?
[17:11] <hydra__> fanjabi check if your video driver has a sync to vsync option or something like that
[17:11] <d3v0> i cant seem to change my password in xubuntu, when i press esc during the reset, nothing happens
[17:11] <kickingintender> how does ubuntu server contest in the world of servers versions like suse enterprise and RHEL
[17:11] <jk_> d3v0, press left shift during the boot sequence to get the grub menu
[17:11] <d3v0> ok thanks
[17:11] <kickingintender> solaris etc.....who is the winner here
[17:12] <jrib> !ot | kickingintender
[17:12] <fanjabi> hydra__: how can i do this? i can't find these settings
[17:12] <majuk_> Hey all. Trying to get a USB serial port working. When I modprobe usbserial, the one device comes up as two separate TTY's and when I screen into either, I get a stream of bits, but it's all nonsense.
[17:12] <rethus> have 10.04, how can i install php4 and php5 on my apache? I didn't found any php4-packages
[17:12] <hydra__> fanjabi what video card you using
[17:12] <mickster04> kickingintender: I use ubuntu server but like said, thats not in this channel
[17:12] <sdasda> mickster04: don't have preferences->admin
[17:13] <fanjabi> hydra__: ati mobility radeon hd 5650
[17:13] <jellow> htop shows lots of instances of mysql running , Do i need all of them or just one?
[17:13] <cryptide>  /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:13] <cryptide> shit
[17:13] <FloodBot3> cryptide: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:13] <cryptide> fuck off floodbot
[17:13] <fanjabi> rethus: you want only php?
[17:14] <rethus> fanjabi: i need php4 and php5 on same server, but i can't find php4
[17:14] <hydra__> fanjabi you should have "system -> preferences -> ati catalyst control center (administrative)"
[17:14] <rethus> for 10.04
[17:14] <jpds> rethus: Because it's dead and not supported-upstream; thus it's not in the archives.
[17:14] <rethus> where can i get it
[17:14] <jpds> rethus: You'll have to go back and grab a package from an older release.
[17:14] <mickster04> rethus: i would have thought php5 does all the stuff php4 did?
[17:15] <jpds> kickingintender: FWIW, for it's young age, Ubuntu is pretty popular on the server.
[17:15] <haylothrat246> free smarties
[17:15] <jpds> mickster04: There are some changes which break things.
[17:15] <rethus>  mickster04: no it doesn't ... it doesn't have the incompatibility to the cms-systems that i have to fix :D
[17:15] <haylothrat246> get my
[17:15] <mickster04> haylothrat246: can we help you?
[17:15] <haylothrat246> no
[17:15] <Nic_> It is still resizing!?
[17:16] <rethus> can i use older packages, or have i to compile it myself?
[17:16] <Nic_> I am trying to shrink my partition and create a new one for backup, but it has been at least an hour and it still hasn't resized :(
[17:16] <Nic_> Holycrap, it JUST finished :o
[17:17] <n0a1ias> hey, is wine the program i would use to install crisis?
[17:17] <Nic_> Ok, at least I know it is moving along now :)
[17:17] <hydra__> can anyone tell me why ping -I 10.0.0.2 google.com would send packets out eth0 when eth1 has the interface address 10.0.0.2 and eth0 is 192.168.2.10???
[17:17] <Nic_> n0a1ias: Good luck with that ;)
[17:17] <jpds> rethus: Only one way to find out if older packages work... trying them. :)
[17:17] <n0a1ias> nic, is it possible?
[17:17] <mickster04> rethus: http://www.icewalkers.com/Linux/Software/56910/PHP4.html will this help?
[17:17] <CyberCr33p> does the vncserver on ubuntu 9.x replaced by vnc4server on ubuntu 10.x ?
[17:18] <mickster04> rethus: its 4.4.9?
[17:18] <rethus> yes, thanks
[17:18] <hydra__> rethus you might be better of getting php4 as source and building it, that way you wont have library dependency problems
[17:19] <mickster04> n0a1ias: ermmm. kinda of yes, but wine is more of an emulator and as such isn't that good at games... the specs required by crisis are high on a native OS...so through wine it will be vrey slow...
[17:20] <n0a1ias> mickster04, hmm, is there any other way?
[17:20] <spunk> anyone tried e4defrag with success?
[17:20] <sdasda> anyone know how to start vnc server in lubuntu ?
[17:21] <mickster04> spunk: if you use ext4 formatting for your hd you wont need a defragger
[17:21] <mickster04> sdasda: system>preferencecs>remote...
[17:22] <spunk> mickster04, really? Will any sort of defragging take place in the background?
[17:22] <_chun> If I have a package installed on a networked machine, is it possible to install it from there rather than re-downloading it?
[17:22] <n0a1ias> what does catman do?
[17:23] <n0a1ias> wait, nm. ill use man
[17:23] <mickster04> spunk: it's a journalling file system, so it looks after the stuff itself..every so often you get a consistency check when you boot ubuntu, thats when it does it
[17:23] <mickster04> !ext4
[17:24] <spunk> mickster04, I see. So bringing a disk offline and then perform a fsck will effectively defrag an ext4 partition?
[17:25] <mickster04> spunk: well i dunno how it does it. but you should google ext4 for more understanding, ubottu doesn't know anything about ext4 and has little to say about ext3
[17:25] <n0a1ias> ok so the man page on catman is nonsense.
[17:26] <spunk> mickster04, ok, thanks.
[17:26] <mickster04> n0a1ias: what do you do with catman?
[17:27] <n0a1ias> mickster04, i'm not shure, i saw it on a tab list and im trying to lean
[17:27] <n0a1ias> learn**
[17:28] <tynot> anyone, please, the syntax to download a kde xwindow package for ubuntu server? or, at least... the command line syntax to search the local or online package directories?
[17:28] <mickster04> tynot: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop (i think)
[17:29] <mickster04> tynot: if you use the tab key it can autocomplete to things that excist
[17:29] <adalal> hey, i'm trying to get acpi information to show, but i realised that my cpus doesn't show any cpufreq details.. i've got a desktop and laptop both running on AMDs
[17:30] <jwx9j> please tell me how to manualy mount my second hard drive
[17:30] <adalal> jwx9j: from the commandline, sudo mount /dev/<drive> <location to mount>
[17:30] <mickster04> !mount
[17:31] <jwx9j> adalal,  I tried that mount /dev/sdb1 /storage but it said I need to specify a file type
[17:32] <mickster04> !mount | jwx9j:
[17:32] <adalal> jwx9j: what's the filesystem?
[17:32] <tynot> mickster04, thx, but not working. logged in as root, so sudo not necessary. have another admin acct i could use, but that's another issue. please provide syntax for package search?
[17:32] <jwx9j> EXT3
[17:33] <Jordan_U> jwx9j: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo blkid"?
[17:33] <Nic_> I need some help again :(
[17:33] <spunk> !blkid
[17:33] <jwx9j> root@jim-desktop:/# sudo blkid
[17:33] <jwx9j> /dev/sda1: UUID="f11f5b7a-4868-447a-89f4-68f4131d5356" TYPE="ext4"
[17:33] <jwx9j> /dev/sda5: UUID="cb7557f1-306b-41e6-9af1-31ed095ef035" TYPE="swap"
[17:33] <jwx9j> root@jim-desktop:/#
[17:33] <FloodBot3> jwx9j: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:33] <adalal> anyone knows why I can't get any cpufreq information on my computer? nor are the acpi utils working.. the comp is runnin on AMD
[17:33] <Nic_> I have the new partition and the old one mounted as /new and /old
[17:34] <Nic_> But I can't add or remove files from either
[17:34] <adalal> jwx9j: is the external connected?
[17:34] <jwx9j> FloodBot1, if I knew what you where talking about, I would not be heare asking questions
[17:34] <Nic_> How could I copy folders into the /new folder?
[17:34] <fanjabi> i'm experiencing tearing playing videos, can someone help me?
[17:35] <jwx9j> adalal,  yes it is now. it was working before, but i upgraded my system and now it would not mount, I have all my data on that drive
[17:35] <n0a1ias> anyone know of software that displays your temps, like cpuz?
[17:35] <null__> hello. is there a problem with msn? empathy gives "network error "when connecting to msn with a @hotmail.com account ?
[17:37] <adalal> null__: msn servers have been doing that to me as well
[17:37] <adalal> null__: but they seemed to have autocorrected for me
[17:37] <adalal> anyone knows why I can't get any cpufreq information on my computer? nor are the acpi utils working.. the comp is runnin on AMD
[17:38] <fanjabi> i'm experiencing tearing playing videos, can someone help me?
[17:39] <mcl0vin> any one here familiar with 'ed' editor
[17:40] <CyberCr33p> does the vncserver on ubuntu 9.x replaced by vnc4server on ubuntu 10.x ?
[17:40] <fanjabi> hydra__: i opened ati ccc but cant see a setting for vsync
[17:41] <mickster04> CyberCr33p: maybe whats the problem?
[17:42] <CyberCr33p> I try to find which vnc server I should install
[17:42] <mickster04> CyberCr33p: either? it doesn't matter, the mostt recent is always recomended
[17:43] <CyberCr33p> ok
[17:43] <Strife89> Hello, I got a reply on the bug tracker, but I'm not exactly sure what the writer is suggesting I do. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/382806/comments/17
[17:43] <tynot> por favor, the syntax to get kde desktop for ubuntu server?
[17:43] <jbuncher> How do I remove the evolution config files?  My setup got messed up somehow, and I want to remove everything and re-set up all of my mail accounts.  Can someone help me accomplish this?  (rm -r .evolution did not work)
[17:44] <mickster04> tynot: ask in #ubuntu-server
[17:44] <rethus> k, i see now, i didn't need php4 php from version 5.1 is old enough.
[17:44] <rethus> how can i downgrade to 5.1 on ubunt 10.04 ?
[17:44] <tynot> mickster04, thx. how does one get there from here?
[17:45] <bazhang> tynot, install kubuntu-desktop
[17:45] <mickster04> tynot: /join #ubuntu-server ?
[17:46] <itsux2bu> tynot you want kubuntu desktop on a server version of ubuntu?
[17:46] <tynot> new or very old at irc. apologies
[17:46] <bazhang> tynot, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[17:46] <mickster04> bazhang: yeah tried that, apparently it didnt work
[17:46] <itsux2bu> tynot, you could also try..   tasksel
[17:46] <tynot> bazhang, I've tried that, but it errors out
[17:46] <itsux2bu> tynot, very easy to use
[17:46] <bazhang> tynot, pastebin the errors
[17:46] <tynot> i can ping the hell out of things
[17:47] <tynot> taskel?
[17:47] <itsux2bu> tynot, tasksel.. at command line..
[17:48] <itsux2bu> gives you a menu to pick from
[17:49] <tynot> Error: "Couldn't find find package kubuntu-desktop". I know I can ping public IP's offsite.
[17:49] <tynot> Error: "Couldn't find find package kubuntu-desktop". I know I can ping public IP's offsite.
[17:49] <tynot> redundant
[17:50] <denysonique> tynot, emerge kde
[17:50] <Divecks> Hey, how can I mount an ISO as a CD?
[17:50] <Pici> denysonique: Er, thats not going to work in Ubuntu.
[17:50] <mickster04> Divecks: burn it
[17:50] <Jordan_U> !iso | Divecks
[17:50] <oCean_> Divecks: mount -o loop blah.iso /mnt
[17:50] <mickster04> Divecks: oh wait
[17:50] <Divecks> mickster04, Yeah :D That
[17:50] <mickster04> darkjoker: yeah that
[17:50] <mickster04> darkjoker: sorry wrong guy
[17:51] <Divecks> Okay thanks guys will do.
[17:51] <tynot> denysonique, que? "emerge kde"? that a command? what's the proper syntax?
[17:51] <Pici> tynot: Its not a valid command for Ubuntu.
[17:51] <Pici> tynot: What version of Ubuntu are you running? Have you run   sudo apt-get update   lately?
[17:52] <tynot> 10.04.1?
[17:52] <Nic_> I am trying to format this disc, but windows is telling me it is "write protected"
[17:52] <tynot> no, pici
[17:52] <tynot> doing it now
[17:52] <Divecks> Wow that worked impressively well. Thanks oCean_ mickster04 Jordan_U
[17:52] <mickster04> Divecks: tis ok
[17:52] <mickster04> Divecks: :P
[17:53] <tynot> think I see the issue...
[17:53] <tynot> can't resolve security.ubuntu.com
[17:53] <wx9j> I get an error trying to run fsck on a second drive, here is the output. The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2
[17:53] <wx9j> filesystem.  If the device is valid and it really contains an ext2
[17:53] <wx9j> filesystem (and not swap or ufs or something else), then the superblock
[17:53] <wx9j> is corrupt, and you might try running e2fsck with an alternate superblock:
[17:53] <wx9j>     e2fsck -b 8193 <device>
[17:53] <FloodBot3> wx9j: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:54] <VanessaE> hi all.  I finally moved my last machine to Lucid a few days ago (clean install on a freshly formatted disk) and am getting kernel panics now - can't call it "frequent" as the time between them is quite random.
[17:54] <wx9j> can anyone help me besides the hall monitor telling me what not to do ?
[17:54] <Divecks> Interesting.. but now the .exes (this is a windows disk for use with wine) aren't "+x'd", and therefore Wine can't execute them. And I can't chmod/chown the files because it's a read only FS.. Hmm.
[17:54] <tynot> I setup DNS, but it doesn't seem to be running properly. we're pulling it from our provider, at the moment.
[17:54] <bazhang> wx9j, then pastebin the errors
[17:55] <mickster04> Divecks: copy paste
[17:55] <tynot> ifconfig doesn't reveal dns settings, only IP and subnet mask
[17:55] <wx9j> bazhang, not sure what that means, I tried pasting the output before
[17:55] <Divecks> mickster04, I was afraid of that. :D But I'll do it.
[17:55] <mickster04> !paste
[17:55] <tynot> #ubuntu-server
[17:56] <mickster04> tynot: /join #ubuntu server
[17:56] <mickster04> tynot: /join #ubuntu-server
[17:56] <tynot> yup, mickster04, doing it now. thx.
[17:56] <Nic_> Hello?
[17:56] <Jordan_U> Divecks: Wine should still allow you to run "wine /path/to/exe" even if it doesn't have execute permissions.
[17:57] <Nic_> I need some help: I am trying to format a disc so I can write a live CD to it, but it is telling me that the CD is "write protected"
[17:57] <wx9j> the superblock on my second drive is not able to be read ? can I correct this without loosing all the data on the drive ?
[17:59] <itsux2bu> Nic_, is it cd-r or cd-rw?
[17:59] <Nic_> itsux2bu: I am not sure :(
[17:59] <Nic_> It came from ubuntu, though
[17:59] <Nic_> The CD
[17:59] <itsux2bu> Nic_, ou know the difference?
[18:00] <Duke_Harris> hey guys, I have a problem on ubuntu lucid. I deleted the generic linux-headers folder in /usr/src because I messed up some files in it. I thought after reinstalling linux-headers-generic the folder would appear again, but it doesn't. How do I get the generic linux headers folder back?
[18:00] <itsux2bu> Nic_, you have a ubuntu cd?
[18:00] <Nic_> itsux2bu: It is a LiveCD for an old version of ubuntu, and I am trying to format it
[18:00] <Nic_> But it is saying it is "write protected"
[18:00] <itsux2bu> Nic_, you shouldn't need to format it
[18:01] <trism> Duke_Harris: linux-headers-generic is just a meta package, you would need to reinstall the actual headers package for your current kernel
[18:01] <mickster04> Nic_: its not rewriteable
[18:01] <Nic_> itsux2bu: I want to clear it so I can add the LiveCD image for Linux Mint
[18:01] <itsux2bu> Nic_, why format it?
[18:01] <Nic_> I thought that clears it?
[18:01] <Nic_> So I need to buy a blank CD
[18:01] <mickster04> Nic_: no you can empty a cd which does the same thing
[18:01] <itsux2bu> Nic_, its most likely a cd-r
[18:01] <Duke_Harris> ah ok i'll try that @trism
[18:02] <mickster04> Nic_: yeah, cd-r is once write cd-rw is multiple writes (afte ryou clear it each time)
[18:02] <itsux2bu> Nic_, cd-r can only be written to once
[18:02] <Nic_> I don't have any CDs :(
[18:02] <mickster04> Nic_: unlucky
[18:02] <itsux2bu> cd-rw = r=read, w=write
[18:02] <trism> Duke_Harris: such as linux-headers-2.6.32-24-generic if you have an up-to-date lucid install
[18:03] <Nic_> That stinks :(
[18:03] <itsux2bu> if cd-r, read only or "write protected"..  if cd-rw, read and write
[18:03] <mickster04> trism: try running update-grub
[18:03] <Nic_> I have a USB drive, can't I use that as a LiveCD?
[18:03] <mickster04> Nic_: yes
[18:03] <mickster04> !liveusb
[18:04] <trism> mickster04: why?
[18:04] <Duke_Harris> trism, thanks, worked well
[18:05] <x-ip> 10.04.1 is the beta version from the next release ? :)
[18:06] <duffydack> I just upgraded my xorg and fglrx from the xorg ppa but I`m not sure if its using the newer fglrx.. CCC says software driver version 8.723 but the newer one, which is there  in dkms is 8.762.  how can I verify the driver loaded is the newer version..
[18:07] <trism> x-ip: no, 10.04.1 is the first maintenance update to the 10.04 lts release, I don't know why they list it on the maverick schedule
[18:09] <x-ip> thanks trism  =)
[18:09] <Nic_> That worked! :O
[18:09] <Nic_> Thanks! :)
[18:09] <x-ip> so its stable and safe to install 10.04.1 right ? :)
[18:10] <StaRetji> folks, after reboot, my sound is muted, both alsa and pulseaudio
[18:10] <StaRetji> help please
[18:11] <StaRetji> I max it, but after reboot, muted again
[18:11] <Sunderphon> is it possible to adjust volume via terminal?
[18:12] <StaRetji> yes
[18:12] <StaRetji> alsamixer
[18:13] <jellow> Just compilied latest verion of ruby on jaunty , When i run gem i get this error http://pastebin.com/YFGbEp83
[18:14] <Fredrick> hey
[18:14] <Fredrick> how do i configure this ubuntu as a proxy server?
[18:14] <jellow> !squid  | Fredrick
[18:15] <grayhane> the superblock on my second drive is corrupt, I really need that data, how can I fix this without losing everything ?
[18:15] <mickster04> is there a non-caching proxy for ubuntu?
[18:15] <kthakore> my wireless is showing disabled
[18:15] <kthakore> and the button to enable it is not working
[18:15] <Jordan_U> grayhane: Have you tried fsck? There should be back up super blocks to restore from.
[18:16] <Fredrick> no, the kind of proxy server that lets me check my email at work.
[18:16] <kthakore> lshw shows *-network DISABLED
[18:16] <grayhane> Jordan_U,  I ran fsck, it says block cannot be read,
[18:16] <mickster04> Fredrick: that doesn't make sense
[18:16] <Jordan_U> grayhane: Can you pastebin the exact error?
[18:17] <jellow> Fredrick: This is what squid enables you to do also there are ssh tunnels
[18:17] <mickster04> Fredrick: a proxy is a proxy
[18:17] <kthakore> anyone?
[18:17] <Fredrick> oh, thanks
[18:17] <jellow> Fredrick: also openvpn but this is over kill :P
[18:19] <grayhane> Jordan_U, it told me to run a command and the result was null. is there any disk utility programs that might help me ?
[18:19] <jellow> Fredrick: i recommend you look up the ubuntu documentaion and come back with any problems , Good luck ;P
[18:19] <Jordan_U> grayhane: Can you pastebin the exact error?
[18:19] <Fredrick> so i can download this, then at work go to a website and use that to check my email with out it being able to be seen?
[18:20] <blackshell> how do i automate a task in ubuntu?
[18:20] <mickster04> Fredrick: what email site are you after
[18:20] <IdleOne> !cron | blackshell
[18:20] <Fredrick> aol
[18:20] <mickster04> ...
[18:20] <jellow> Fredrick: Your network admin will be able to see what you are doing of course
[18:21] <grayhane> Jordan_U, not sure how to do that, each time I past here a hall monitor chews me out
[18:21] <mickster04> Fredrick: you could just wait until after work for emails...?
[18:21] <IdleOne> !paste | grayhane
[18:21] <sebsebseb> Hi
[18:21] <IdleOne> hello sebsebseb
[18:21] <blackshell> IdleOne:will it simulate clicking of buttons etc?
[18:21] <sebsebseb> hello IdleOne
[18:21] <mickster04> Fredrick: you don't have to set up your own there are plenty of prxy's and vpns out there
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> mickster04: does s/he want remote access to emails at home?
[18:21] <Strife89> Hello, I got a reply on the bug tracker, but I'm not exactly sure what the writer is suggesting I do. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/382806/comments/17
[18:22] <mickster04> ActionParsnip: no, aol
[18:22] <jellow> Fredrick: but yes essentialy you set up a squid server on your home computer and at connect throught it at work to see your emails/
[18:22] <IdleOne> blackshell: well if you write a script but no.
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> mickster04: ah, I see
[18:22] <blackshell> IdleOne:shell script?
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> mickster04: ssh access to aol maybe, via putty etc
[18:22] <IdleOne> blackshell: yeah
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> mickster04: maybe..
[18:22] <Fredrick> hmm, remember being in school and they would have some sites blocked? and you could use a proxy server to get around that? my work has blocked most of them and i don't want to have to find a new one every day so i want my own
[18:22] <grayhane> !paste | grayhane
[18:23] <mickster04> !vpn | Fredrick
[18:23] <blackshell> IdleOne:shell script can simulate clicks?any info on that?
[18:23] <IdleOne> blackshell: if I am correct you are looking for a macro application
[18:23] <jellow> Fredrick: i would not use a public proxy for anything private
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> Fredrick: if its aol chat you could use bitlbee to chat on aol via irssi using putty
[18:24] <blackshell> IdleOne:kind of
[18:24] <IdleOne> blackshell: take a look at g15macro it is in the repositories
[18:24] <mickster04> Fredrick: just go to an internet cafe at lunch?
[18:24] <IdleOne> blackshell: I have never used it.
[18:24] <jellow> Just compilied latest verion of ruby on jaunty , When i run gem i get this error http://pastebin.com/YFGbEp83
[18:25] <Weust`> hi, i run a ubuntu desktop at a mate's house to use mdadm, what is the config file to let the powerbutton init 0 ?
[18:25] <grayhane> I have yet to get help with a question here, just a bunch of hall momitor bots. what a waste
[18:25] <IdleOne> blackshell: that might not be what you are looking for
[18:25] <blackshell> IdleOne:doesnt seem a good solution,
[18:26] <blackshell> IdleOne:anyway of doing it in shell script?
[18:26] <IdleOne> blackshell: I wouldn't know how sorry
[18:26] <Scunizi> when running 64 bit is the default Firefox also 64 bit or is it 32 bit running on top of 64 with the appropriate libraries?
[18:26] <Carleas> Can I remote install Ubuntu desktop from one Mac to another?
[18:26] <aeon-ltd> Scunizi: depends which versio you installed :)
[18:26] <mickster04> Carleas: i dont think so
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> Scunizi: yes the browser will be 64bit. You can install 32bit browsers in 64bit ubuntu
[18:27] <Jordan_U> Scunizi: 64 bit, using nspluginwrapper for 32 bit only plugins like flash.
[18:27] <Scunizi> aeon-ltd: in Kubuntu there is a menu option to install FF but I don't know which version
[18:27] <jellow> Just compilied latest verion of ruby on jaunty , When i run gem i get this error http://pastebin.com/YFGbEp83
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> Scunizi: you can use the 64bit flash ppa and install 64bit java manually to get native 64bit plugins rather than using nspluginwrapper
[18:27] <Scunizi> ActionParsnip: Jordan_U  so the 32 bit version is available in the repos on a 64 bit machine?
[18:27] <mickster04> jellow: the lack of responce prolly means no
[18:27] <Scunizi> ActionParsnip: are they stable?
[18:28] <Carleas> So, to make a laptop run ubuntu desktop, I need either a DVD or a USB?
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> Scunizi:yes its fine. The 64bit is 10.0 flash
[18:28] <Nic_> Finally, I am a mint user :D
[18:28] <hellosugaree> anybody had display issues with netbooks
[18:28] <ashka> hey
[18:28] <hellosugaree> ?
[18:28] <Nic_> Bye Ubuntu!
[18:28] <Scunizi> ActionParsnip: and Java.. the sun-java version in the repos for 64 bit *isn't* 64 bit?
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> Scunizi: if you install ia32-libs you can run firefox 32bit. I think there's also a guide or two online for firefox32
[18:28] <mickster04> Carleas: well yeah...how else is it gonna work?
[18:29] <Oer> !anyone | hellosugaree
[18:29] <ashka> is it possible to print with awk element $3 and all the others after $3 ?
[18:29] <mickster04> Nic_: fail, mint is basede on ubuntu
[18:29] <jellow> mickster04: no harm in trying , I'd rather not re-compilie and waste another hour
[18:29] <Nic_> mickster04: I know :P
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> Scunizi: no the repo uses 32bit. 64bit can be installed using the .run file at www.java.com
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> !find firefox32
[18:29] <Carleas> mickster04: Remotely?  Ethernet?  Can I install from another mac if I connect through USB?
[18:29] <Nic_> mickster04: Still, I am no longer using ubuntu :3
[18:30] <Scunizi> ActionParsnip: ah.. ok.. that might be one of my issues with an online app I need for work..
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> Scunizi: how do you mean?
[18:30] <linuxR> hi all, I'm trying a dist-upgrade from 9.10 to 10.04, but it says i have not enough disk space. I have a 3G root partition and a 15G /home partition, this was suggested by 9.10. Will it help if I clean some data on /home in order to gain some disk space?
[18:30] <Weust`> hi, i run a ubuntu desktop at a mate's house to use mdadm, what is the config file to let the powerbutton init 0 ?
[18:31] <Scunizi> ActionParsnip: I have an online work app that uses java.. It loads and allows me to get to a certain point then crashes.
[18:31] <aeon-ltd> linuxR: no / root is the problem
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> linuxR: remove ubuntu-docs and old kernels. Can save a tonne of space
[18:31] <aafuentes> hi, when i try to install iceweasel it says "Package iceweasel is not available, but is referred to by another package" how do i install it?
[18:31] <linuxR> aeon-ltd, but on / I have no personal data...and only 450 m of 3G free :(
[18:32] <sebsebseb> aafuentes: Why are you trying to install Iceweasel? Do you know about the differences between Iceweasel and Firefox?
[18:32] <xangua> aafuentes: why not just use firefox¿
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> Scunizi: try the native 64bit. Run the app. Copy the java folder to /opt then symlink the .so file to your browsers plugins folder
[18:32] <dp> the wbar package in lucid seems to have a problem: http://pastebin.dp.cx/pastebin.php?show=294089 -- can anyone confirm?
[18:32] <aafuentes> sebsebseb, and xangua, i like to have more than one browser installed... (besides, firefox is bloated with tabs now, and i cant barely open it)
[18:32] <Scunizi> ActionParsnip: k.. I'll have to tackle that later but will give it a try.
[18:33] <sebsebseb> aafuentes: ok uhmm
[18:33] <sebsebseb> aafuentes: sounds like you don't quite understand what Iceweasel is then, so i'll explain :)
[18:33] <aafuentes> u.U
[18:33] <Fredrick> im having trouble installing squid, if extracted it to a folder in my desktop, and cd'd into that folder
[18:33] <aafuentes> its a firefox with the branded changed
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> Scunizi: it will also need to be manually updated but its no biggy, remove folder, remove link, repeat install process
[18:33] <sebsebseb> aafuentes: Ubuntu is based on Debian, but Firefox wasn't free software enough for them, since the branding and such, so they make Iceweasel
[18:33] <aafuentes> but it used different folders, cant i have both installed?
[18:34] <aafuentes> they*
[18:34] <mickster04> aafuentes: yes but it is jus as bloated
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: there's icecat now which is what iceweasel has become
[18:34] <GORE-Daddy_> Can someone advise me on the following:  The upgrade manager says that "New distribution release '10.04.01 LTS is availbable"  and "Upgrade" in the radio button.  When I start the upgrade I get the message AMD fglrx driver not supported.  You will loose desktop quality, etc.  Is this a problem and should I go ahead and upgrade?:
[18:34] <aafuentes> mickster04, firefox is not bloated for me... its only bloated with tabs right now :)
[18:34] <sebsebseb> aafuentes: the code that makes Iceweasel is the same as Firefox, and then teh difference is the branding and I guess user agent string as well.  So Iceweasel is very nearly Firefox.  99% Firefox if you like
[18:34] <sebsebseb> ActionParsnip: Iceweasel has been re named?
[18:35] <mickster04> GORE-Daddy_: yes go ahead, you can install new drivers once updated
[18:35] <Fredrick> im having trouble installing squid, if extracted it to a folder in my desktop, and cd'd into that folder
[18:35] <mickster04> Fredrick: you can sudo apt-0get squid
[18:35] <sebsebseb> aafuentes: as for FIrefox in Ubuntu uhmm yes, there can be slowness issues, Flash is a likely cause of that
[18:35] <aafuentes> u.U i cant install iceweasel anyway, can you? from the repositories?
[18:35] <mickster04> Fredrick: you can sudo apt-get squid
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> GORE-Daddy_: you will need to remove the driver. The xorg version in lucid with your video chip may not fly
[18:35] <GORE-Daddy_> Where do I get them?  Or will the system hunt them?
[18:35] <Fredrick> oh, sweet. thanks
[18:35] <mickster04> aafuentes: get chrome thats light :P
[18:35] <linuxR> how can I get a list of currently installed packages with apt/synaptic?
[18:35] <Guptan> I'd a Wubi installation of 10.4. I updated latest security patches and software updates when system prompted me to do so. After reboot I'm ended up with Grub rescue screen. What should I do to get Ubuntu and Windows running?
[18:35] <xangua> aafuentes: of you want firefox with no brand in ubuntu then install 'abrowser' ; you can also add a PPA to install icecat (the modified firefox that the FSF recomends)
[18:35] <kthakore> I disabled the wifi in asus but I cannot reenable it now. Is therea software way to enable?
[18:36] <mickster04> GORE-Daddy_: the system will after you have inished updating
[18:36] <mickster04> kthakore: bios settings
[18:36] <sebsebseb> aafuentes: Firefox is great, but it doesnt' always work as well as it should in Ubuntu for various reasons, but there are quite a few other good browsers that can be used instead.  Or you could install Firefox directly from them, and it might work a bit better.
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> sebsebseb: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_IceCat
[18:36] <aafuentes> sebsebseb, flash and not different process for each tab... when one tab crash.. (witch is quite often for me) the whole broser freezes... i beg for this to be changed for ff4
[18:36] <GORE-Daddy_> Will teh upgrade remove the driver and revert to a generic one?
[18:36] <sebsebseb> aafuentes: oh right ok that
[18:36] <aafuentes> mickster04, ive got chrome just as bloated... i need a third browser installed
[18:36] <Cinux`> Hi, I want to install OpenGL on ubuntu. What are the Package I have to install? Is there a tool which can hel me to see what king of softs are installable?
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> aafuentes: that's how chrome works :)
[18:37] <mickster04> GORE-Daddy_: yes
[18:37] <ActionParsnip> Cinux`: do you want to develop 3D models?
[18:37] <mickster04> aafuentes: chromium i meant
[18:37] <sebsebseb> aafuentes: I am on another distro, and the FIrefox I got here seems to have that feature :)  anyway on the subject of Firefox 4
[18:37] <Cinux`> ActionParsnip: Yes
[18:37] <aafuentes> mickster04, ive got both, chromium and chrome installed... but i wanted iceweasel as well
[18:37] <sebsebseb> aafuentes: well its just a browser so it will be pretty stable really,  you can get the Firefox 4  beta from Mozilla, and use that, if you want
[18:37] <GORE-Daddy_> O.K., here goes nothing!
[18:38] <GORE-Daddy_> Thanks.
[18:38] <dsfs> how to tell if bytecode interpreter is compiled into xft?
[18:38] <aafuentes> nah sebsebseb ill wait for ff4 stable ;)
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> Cinux`: blender is one solution
[18:38] <sebsebseb> aafuentes: and the feature where Firefox doesn't just mess up, when a plugin crahses, I think is already there
[18:38] <mickster04> aafuentes: well i find chromium nice indeed..better than ff but icecat wont be much better
[18:38] <aafuentes> im not in that hurry, besides, i think they didnt change the different process per tab as i want, so...
[18:38] <sebsebseb> aafuentes: as for Chromeium I  am not much of a fan, and there are other great browsers you can use instead :)
[18:38] <Cinux`> ActionParsnip: I want to try to build a tetris
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> aafuentes: you can install it from the mozilla ppa. It will be a seperate app so you can keep your current browser and have 4 as an option
[18:39] <aafuentes> u.u, i dont need a better browser
[18:39] <aafuentes> i dont really trust ppa ActionParsnip
[18:39] <aafuentes> :)
[18:39] <kthakore> mickster04: there are no bios settigns for  wifi in asus
[18:39] <sebsebseb> aafuentes: Arora uses webkit like Chromium for disaplying pages and is quite good really.   Webkit is based on KHTML what Konqueror uses, Konqueror is nice, and I think it can use Webkit now.
[18:39] <kthakore> what is the software that disables and enable?
[18:39] <aafuentes> is there a way to install iceweasel from the repositories?
[18:39] <adalal> anyone knows why I can't get any cpufreq information on my computer? nor are the acpi utils working.. the comp is runnin on AMD
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> aafuentes: your call. Its pretty handy
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> kthakore: disables and enab les WHAT?
[18:40] <mickster04> kthakore: I use and asus eeepc and yes there is
[18:40] <sebsebseb> aafuentes: and Epiphany and Galeon are quite nice as well and so on, and no I don't think Iceweasel is in the Ubuntu repo since Firefox
[18:40] <kthakore> ActionParsnip: the wireless
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> adalal: less /proc/cpuinfo ,maybe
[18:40] <mickster04> Cinux`: what do you mean build a tetris?
[18:40] <aafuentes> ActionParsnip, what assure you a ppa has not malicious code? nothing, thats what
[18:40] <kthakore> mickster04: ok Iwill try again
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> kthakore: you can rmmod and modprobe the module to turn it off and on (I believe)
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> aafuentes: I believe it is maintained by mozilla
[18:41] <Cinux`> mickster04: I'm learning programation with c++ and I want to try something like a tetris
[18:41] <adalal> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/ewGte80f
[18:41] <kthakore> mickster04: ok I am in advanaced tab
[18:41] <aafuentes> ActionParsnip, that would change things then ;)
[18:41] <kthakore> mickster04: no wireless
[18:41] <mickster04> Cinux`: try with something easier first i recon...look at code blocks for an IDE asx well
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> aafuentes: I've used it on slews of system and solved countless firefox issues on launchpad, simply by advising users add it
[18:41] <mickster04> kthakore: its under onboard devices
[18:42] <Guptan> Any help? Wubi installation got stuck at grub rescue screen after installing package grub-pc package?
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> aafuentes: you need to reduce your tinfoil hat collection dude
[18:42] <sebsebseb> Guptan: uhmm
[18:42] <Cinux`> mickster04: What is an IDE asx ?
[18:42] <sebsebseb> Guptan: did you have a working Wubi install, and then install Grub into it yourself?
[18:42] <mickster04> Cinux`: try with something easier first i recon...look at code blocks for an IDE as well
[18:42] <LibertyZero> Guptan: Sounds like you encountered this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/wubi/+bug/609815 It says, that you have to "restore your MBR by a Windows Version again." I don't know, how to do that but eventually the people in ##windows can help you with that.
[18:42] <kthakore> mickster04: I have Main Advanced Security Boot Save & Exit
[18:43] <Sardinian> HI ALL
[18:43] <vigge_sWe> hey
[18:43] <mickster04> kthakore: look in each of those for "onboard"
[18:43] <Fredrick> how do i use squid? i cant get to the prompt in terminal
[18:43] <sebsebseb> Guptan: much better in the long run to use a proper partitioned install by the way of any Desktop Linux distro, be that Ubuntu, or something else
[18:43] <Guptan> sebsebseb: Yes I'd a working wubi installation. Then software updates installed grub-pc along with it
[18:43] <adalal> anyone knows why I can't get any cpufreq information on my computer? nor are the acpi utils working.. the comp is runnin on AMD.. here's the output for /proc/cpuinfo .. http://pastebin.com/ewGte80f
[18:43] <vigge_sWe> how can I keep the content of the clipboard when closing the window I copied the text from?
[18:43] <mickster04> Fredrick: try a browser
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> aafuentes: jst because its maintained by them doesn't guaruntee its malicious code free in any way
[18:43] <sebsebseb> Guptan: so Grub got updated, and messed up?
[18:43] <Guptan> sebsebseb: yeah i think so
[18:44] <Cinux`> mickster04: Okay. But I would like to try some stuffs on open GL ... :/
[18:44] <aafuentes> ActionParsnip, is not a tinfoil hat... i just think there is no need not to playing safe
[18:44] <VCoolio> vigge_sWe: don't know, but try a clipboard manager like parcellite
[18:44] <sebsebseb> Guptan: ok why were you doing Wubi?  rather than installing from a Live CD by the way?
[18:44] <Guptan> sebsebseb: my cd writer was not working then :)
[18:44] <trism> ashka: awk '{$1=$2=""; print $0}' seems to work
[18:44] <mickster04> Cinux`: well codeblocks will help you i think
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> aafuentes: true but if you play too safe you lose out on stuff. Like latest vlc, transmission etc
[18:45] <kthakore> mickster04: nope nothing ...
[18:45] <sebsebseb> Guptan: i'll look at the bug link that LibertyZero gave
[18:45] <sebsebseb> Guptan: hold on
[18:45] <mickster04> kthakore: well what asus do you have?
[18:45] <Guptan> sebsebseb:okz
[18:45] <adalal> anyone knows why I can't get any cpufreq information on my computer? nor are the acpi utils working.. the comp is runnin on AMD.. here's the output for /proc/cpuinfo .. http://pastebin.com/ewGte80f
[18:45] <aafuentes> ActionParsnip, and it changes a little if its mantained by them... at least i know some1 from the team (some1 that the teams has trust on) has checked the checksums for the code... thats not that big tinfoil hat, is it?
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> aafuentes: maybe, depends how paranoid you are
[18:45] <ashka> it works. thanks trism
[18:45] <kthakore> mickster04: asus g51jx-a1
[18:45] <ashka> bye
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> adalal: now you know your exact cpu make / model you may find guides
[18:46] <_BEAST> B-)
[18:46] <aafuentes> ActionParsnip, there is no need to be on the edge on your main system really... plenty of things to play without doing so ;)
[18:47] <Cinux`> mickster04: I'll install it and try.. Thanks
[18:47] <sebsebseb> Guptan: ok I understand that, you probably don't quite just yet
[18:48] <sebsebseb> wow LibertyZero that bug sucks
[18:48] <Guptan> sebsebseb: any chance to get it working again?
[18:48] <sebsebseb> Guptan: Have you got a Windows CD or DVD?
[18:48] <Guptan> sebsebseb: seems like I will require windows installation CD
[18:48] <mickster04> kthakore: and the bios is up to date?
[18:48] <Guptan> sebsebseb: Nope
[18:48] <sebsebseb> Guptan: ah
[18:49] <iGO> hi, how to edit screen resolution in ubuntu 10.4?
[18:49] <Guptan> sebsebseb: any other work arounds?
[18:49] <iGO> cant find xorg.conf
[18:49] <mickster04> iGO: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[18:49] <sacarlson> iGO: you can change it in preference>monitors
[18:50] <iGO> it only gives me 1 resolution. and i cant find xorg.conf in folder X11 :s
[18:50] <sacarlson> iGO:  did you try System>administation>hardware ?
[18:50] <sebsebseb> Guptan: right lets go pm,  since I will go a bit off topic,  and then if I can't help, you can ask here again
[18:50] <mickster04> iGO: could you pastebin the output of ls when in that folder?
[18:50] <mgt_90> iGO: That's because Ubuntu doesn't have xorg.conf by default anymore. You have to create it.
[18:51] <Jordan_U> mickster04: It's normal for there to be no xorg.conf
[18:51] <iGO> igo@xk001:/etc/X11$ ls
[18:51] <iGO> app-defaults             rgb.txt             Xreset      Xsession.d
[18:51] <iGO> cursors                  X                   Xreset.d    Xsession.options
[18:51] <iGO> default-display-manager  xinit               Xresources  XvMCConfig
[18:51] <iGO> fonts                    xorg.conf.failsafe  Xsession    Xwrapper.config
[18:51] <FloodBot3> iGO: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:51] <iGO> sorry
[18:52] <axisys> I have a laptop with intel core 2 duo 2.4Ghz and 8GB ram and 750GB disk .. I like to install ubuntu 64bit w/ LVM.. anyone know of a url w/ howto ? i want to put multiple VMs on it and use as my private cloud and use hadoop .. any suggestions on how should I go by doing it? i am thinking install ubuntu desktop and then virtualbox and go that path
[18:52] <sacarlson> mgt_90: and if you create that file does it function?  I thought it was just overwriten if hardware change.  but that's just a myth
[18:52] <X-Sleepy-X> Hi! I've got a question regarding CPU scaling. I'm using Ubuntu 10.04 on my Eee PC 900 which has a Celeron processor. I've added the applet to control CPU scaling with to the panel and I've added p4-clockmod to /etc/modules. This has enabled me to select a certain frequency and use the Performance and the Powersave modes. However, I'm unable to select the Ondemand and the Conservative mode since it's only kicking back to Performan
[18:52] <X-Sleepy-X> ce mode whenever I try to do so. I've been searching Google for hours trying to find a solution but I haven't found one. Is there anyone here who knows what might be causing this or perhaps knows how to fix it?
[18:52] <seekwill> axisys: Why vbox?
[18:52] <kthakore> mickster04: I think so I just got the laptop on monday
[18:52] <kthakore> mickster04: how do I check?
[18:52] <seekwill> axisys: Just stick the DVD in, and click install :P
[18:53] <mgt_90> sacarlson: Haven't tried it myself, but it should work, albeit a bit easily.
[18:53] <Jordan_U> axisys: You need to use the alternate install CD for LVM, but it's pretty straightforward.
[18:53] <axisys> Jordan_U: ok..
[18:53] <kthakore> BIOS 204
[18:53] <mgt_90> sacarlson: *messily, not easily.
[18:53] <axisys> seekwill: i want to install multiple VMs .. vbox seems pretty easy
[18:53] <axisys> seekwill: should i rather go with kvm ?
[18:54] <sacarlson> mgt_90: I see many that would like to boot a system with not so well suported video card.  is there a way to force vesa all the way into the x11 state?
[18:54] <seekwill> axisys: KVM works a bit more efficient, if your CPU supports virtualization
[18:54] <Jordan_U> sacarlson: Add "xforcevesa" as a kernel parameter.
[18:54] <cristi> can anyone help me with my laptop webcam? the image appears reversed, so i suspect it was mounted wrong
[18:54] <axisys> seekwill: it does support virtualization
[18:54] <jenda> axisys: I don't know if it will fit your needs, but I use vbox to virtualize an XP machine for several Windows apps I need and it's perfect for that.
[18:54] <dsfs> how to tell if bytecode interpreter is compiled into xft?
[18:54] <sacarlson> mgt_90: sorry I put you on that line.  wasn't ment to point at you.
[18:54] <mgt_90> axisys: KVM is a little harder to setup, but I'm reluctant to recommend installing a full GUI on a server.
[18:54] <axisys> seekwill: but i want to run in laptop with graphics
[18:55] <underdog`> Does the snort service start in NIDS mode or Inline IPS mode by default?
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> cristi: reversed in what way?
[18:55] <majeszko> Hi I'm new with ubuntu, I've got version 10.4.1, need root password, how can I get it, begin for help because I'm on it for couple hours and there is no useful advice on ubuntu site
[18:55] <cristi> ActionParsnip: upside down
[18:55] <Jordan_U> !root | majeszko
[18:55] <sacarlson> Jordan_U: I thought we tried that and failed.  but no prof that the problem was video so can't say that's not true
[18:55] <axisys> jenda: yep, i have been using vbox for about 2 yrs.. but since i have lot more horse power with this laptop.. i fig i ask around for any thing else
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> cristi: its a modprobe option. Your webcam is installed upsidedown. Let me get the option for you
[18:56] <axisys> mgt_90: it is my laptop.. so I can vbox is simplere then
[18:56] <cristi> ActionParsnip: ok, thank you!
[18:56] <axisys> is there a channel specific to ubuntu based virtualization?
[18:56] <mickster04> kthakore: oh never mind if it's new....not sure then sorry
[18:56] <seekwill> axisys: Ok, just do it :)
[18:57] <sacarlson> any one can support that xforcevesa at kernel boot will force into X11 state vesa graphic mode?
[18:57] <axisys> seekwill: so kvm.. no one mentioned xen.. i guess not preferred ;-)
[18:57] <mgt_90> axisys: Don't get me wrong, I love Vbox, it's just I'd be reluctant to tie up a bunch of system resources with Ubuntu's bloated default GUI. Use a window manager instead if you have to.
[18:57] <Jordan_U> cristi: It's funny, hardware manufacturers often work around hardware bugs in their software driver, but it's usually not so prominent / obvious :)
[18:57] <seekwill> axisys: It all depends on what you need.
[18:58] <seekwill> axisys: Why not use Fedora? RHEL? Arch Linux? All preferences...
[18:58] <cristi> Jordan_U: :))
[18:58] <Jordan_U> !pm | majeszko
[18:58] <seekwill> axisys: They each have their pros and cons. You have to decide what fits best for you. I use vbox and love it. But I only used it because my CPU does't support virt
[18:58] <ActionParsnip> cristi: sec, web is slow when not on 3G speed.
[18:59] <ActionParsnip> cristi: http://swik.net/Ubuntu/Only+Ubuntu/How+to+fix+upside+down+webcam+image+in+ubuntu/cnw5h
[18:59] <sacarlson> how can we detect that xforcevesa will make a system at X11 state (graphic mode) be in vesa mode so I can test it?
[18:59] <axisys> seekwill: my cpu supports virt.. but kvm seems best fit for server setup.. while vbox is for gui..
[18:59] <seekwill> axisys: Ok then!
[18:59] <cristi> ActionParsnip: thanks, i was already looking over that, hope it works..
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> cristi: simply change the module name in the guide for the module YOUR cam uses. You need the vflip option at modprobe time to flip the image
[19:00] <axisys> seekwill: is it possible to install desktop + lvm + kvm ? or kvm only works with server ?
[19:00] <Jordan_U> sacarlson: You can tell from the lack of higher resolutions / acceleration. You can also look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log.
[19:00] <jel> axisys, lvm?  Logical Volume Manager?  It's unrelated to kvm
[19:01] <ActionParsnip> cristi: you can use conf files in /etc/modprobe.d to make the option permanent.
[19:01] <axisys> jel: i know
[19:01] <seekwill> axisys: That one I don't know
[19:01] <steelbak> I have a linksys E3000 w/ 1.5 Seagate USB attached to it working but stalls out. A reboot of router, drive & sytems fixes (usually). Using 10.04. Sling files w/ Dolphin & Krusader. Can I refresh router from system? Any ideas?
[19:01] <Jordan_U> sacarlson: You may also need to disable KMS in certain circumstances with "modeset=0".
[19:01] <John1412> is there a chat room for CompTIA certifications?
[19:01] <sacarlson> Jordan_U: yes I think if you look in the Xorg.0.log it will show vesa as I recall when we had a working method
[19:01] <seekwill> axisys: Yes, technically possible, but I don't know how ubuntu does it
[19:01] <Jordan_U> axisys: Yes, you can do that.
[19:01] <axisys> Jordan_U: ok
[19:02] <ActionParsnip> John1412: ask in #freenode or consult the channel list
[19:02] <axisys> so is there a irc channel for ubuntu virtualization ?
[19:02] <user01> anyone going to OLF? :)
[19:02] <user01> this is going to be my first year
[19:02] <sebsebseb> axisys: not exactly, but there's #vbox for Virtualbox
[19:02] <ActionParsnip> !ot | user01
[19:03] <user01> ActionParsnip: ok thanks
[19:03] <seekwill> axisys: You're thinking too much. Just install it.
[19:03] <seekwill> :D
[19:03] <axisys> seekwill: hehe..
[19:03] <Jordan_U> axisys: Just remember to grab the alternate install CD to install to LVM.
[19:03] <cristi> ActionParsnip: where do i find udevinfo?
[19:03] <axisys> sebsebseb: i am pretty sure there is one.. i just remember what the channel name
[19:03] <adalal> ActionParsnip: well, if were as simple as knowing exactly what CPUs they are.. and looking up on the internet, i'd have done it... :P... i dont see any documentation on it
[19:03] <John1412> ActionParsnip, thank you
[19:03] <sacarlson> I'll try the Xorg.0.log method of detection of vesa mode with xforcevesa added at grub2 boot, unless someone else wants to try it for me.
[19:03] <axisys> Jordan_U: just did.. burned in my usb drive
[19:03] <xroot> Desmantelado thank you
[19:04] <Desmantelado> xroot: huahua
[19:04] <CppIsWeird> why is the 64-bit version of the ubuntu desktop "not recommended for daily desktop usage"?
[19:04] <xroot> Desmantelado :)
[19:04] <ActionParsnip> cristi: its a terminal command. If you know the module name you can simply skip most of the guide
[19:04] <CptWInky85> I'm thinking about joining the Marines =)
[19:04] <cristi> ActionParsnip: i know it's a terminal command but i don't have it
[19:04] <sebsebseb> !ot | CptWInky85
[19:04] <ActionParsnip> CppIsWeird: 3rd parties still support 32bit more, brother and lexmark for example still only kick out 32bit drivers
[19:05] <CppIsWeird> interesting.
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> cristi: then run: dpkg -S udevinfo
[19:05] <flixil> Hello. I configured nvidia to have two different X window (one per monitor, they are in different rooms and have different resolution). But I don't understand it quite right. they are both in tty7, so I guess it's something virtual. How do you avoid when one monitor to open applications in the other monitor? How to you move the mouse from one monitor to the other? What about moving applications from one monitor to the other, is that
[19:05] <flixil>  possible? Where can I read about it in a detailed way? Thanks
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> CppIsWeird: if you have more than 3gb ram then i'd shoot for 64bit (assuming your cpu is 64bit)
[19:05] <Fanshawe> Hey all. I'm using 10.04 and I keep getting suspend errors.
[19:06] <CppIsWeird> is there a real world performance increase using 32-bit vs 64-bit assuming all the same software in their 32-bit and 64-bit versions accordingly?
[19:06] <Fanshawe> Can anyone help?
[19:06] <flixil> CppIsWeird, only for 3d design or math computing
[19:06] <ActionParsnip> flixil: you can use devilspie to manage where and how app windows open
[19:06] <CppIsWeird> interesting. thanks!
[19:07] <X-Sleepy-X> Hi! I've got a question regarding CPU scaling. I'm using Ubuntu 10.04 on my Eee PC 900 which has a Celeron processor. I've added the applet to control CPU scaling with to the panel and I've added p4-clockmod to /etc/modules. This has enabled me to select a certain frequency and use the Performance and the Powersave modes. However, I'm unable to select the Ondemand and the Conservative mode since it's only kicking back to Performan
[19:07] <X-Sleepy-X> ce mode whenever I try to do so. I've been searching Google for hours trying to find a solution but I haven't found one. Is there anyone here who knows what might be causing this or perhaps knows how to fix it?
[19:07] <ActionParsnip> CppIsWeird: there is with audio and video encoding. Otherwise not really
[19:07] <flixil> CppIsWeird, and compilations for instance, or encoding
[19:07] <flixil> ActionParsnip, thanks for the tip, I'm gonna cheack about devilspie.
[19:08] <sacarlson> CppIsWeird: I have seen graphs that show some better performance in 64bit mode . but I am always on the side of 32bit due to my lack of need for that performance.
[19:08] <Blinny> Hardy 8.04.4 - I'm getting authentication errors from an i386 NIS slave to an AMD64 NIS master. I see google posts about this occurring back in the warty/feisty days, but it's stated as fixed. Anyone have experience with this?
[19:08] <CppIsWeird> hmm, also interesting./
[19:08] <sebsebseb> !ask | Fanshawe
[19:08] <ActionParsnip> flixil: there's a python app on google code or whatever its called to help you configure it as it is a cli based config
[19:09] <sebsebseb> Fanshawe: oh ok you did, nevermind
[19:09] <ActionParsnip> flixil: its called gdevilspie (imaginitive I know). Just extract the file and run the executable file in the resulting folder
[19:09] <Fanshawe> No problem. To specify, the errors seem to occur even though the suspend works fine.
[19:10] <Fanshawe> It's more of an annoyance than a serious problem.
[19:10] <madbuntu1984> hi
[19:10] <flixil> thanks ActionParsnip
[19:10] <Azjo> Hardware: nvidia 260gtx and a EIZO crt "21 monitor > it refuses to run at 1600x1200 and i have tried to force 1600x1200 in nvidia settings: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/H045HTYz but it did not work. any suggestions?
[19:10] <aeon-ltd> sacarlson: +1 on sticking with 32bit, besides theres alternative ways to net speed gains
[19:11] <madbuntu1984> im having some issues with usb could anyone help with an error (on 10.04) "cat: /sys/kernel/debug/usbmon/0u: No such file or directory
[19:11] <madbuntu1984> "
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> madbuntu1984: is it the port or just a specific device?
[19:12] <madbuntu1984> a usb male to male lead
[19:12] <sacarlson> aeon-ltd:  I lived with 64 bit for 2 years to suffer the problems and workarounds.  I'm sure there will be a day for 64bit but I was on the side of too far forward.  now I find without 4gig ram little can be gained.
[19:12] <flixil> What about how to move the control from one monitor to the other?
[19:13] <madbuntu1984> * ActionParsnip a usb male to male lead
[19:13] <Fanshawe> I've found a record of my error but no solution. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-power-manager/+bug/89983
[19:13] <Fanshawe> How frustrating.
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> Azjo: try appending the refresh rate to the resolution. Like so: Modes "1024x768@60"
[19:13] <EdwardIII> i'm on ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS. in gnome, the bluetooth manager shows my logitech keyboard as connected, but when i try and use the keyboard it doesn't actually work?
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> Azjo: if the @ fails, try replacing it with an underscore
[19:14] <Azjo> ill give it a shot thanks :)
[19:14] <flixil> EdwardIII, don't you need to sync the keyboard with the bluetooth receiver?
[19:14] <EdwardIII> flixil, it let me go through that bit OK
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> EdwardIII: if you run xev in a terminal, does it generate events when you press stuff?
[19:15] <cristi> ActionParsnip: uhm problem, my webcam driver doesn't seem to have a vflip option
[19:15] <EdwardIII> ActionParsnip, nope
[19:15] <EdwardIII> xev shows nothing when i press keys on the bluetooth keyboard
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> cristi: so when you modprobe with the vflip option its still the same?
[19:16] <cristi> ActionParsnip: i get an error when i want to load the driver with the vflip option
[19:16] <cristi> so i don't get passed that
[19:16] <avi_> Hey, how can I set wine to use a different folder? Like instead of ~/.wine, have it be /media/external/drive/.wine
[19:16] <seekwill> Man, software-center keeps hanging :(
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> cristi: then you'll have to hunt round for the specifics of the driver used to see what option it needs to flip it
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> avi_: move the .wine folder to the location then make a symlink
[19:17] <avi_> ActionParsnip, Woah it's that simple? Hmmph. Will do!
[19:17] <Azjo> how do i know if it accepts @ or not? i have to restart and just try _ if it fails?
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> avi_: makes sense doesn't it ;)
[19:17] <justamonkey> Can anyone here tell me why a brand new lucid/ltsp install has a tftp-hpa failure? The client "can't find files". I've seen stuff all over the net about this but nothing I've seen is the way this box is set up. It's all ubuntu's doing. What might fix this? Thx
[19:18] <seekwill> In software-center, I get a "To show info... about this item, the software catalog needs updating". But I don't get the "Update Now" button.
[19:18] <seekwill> Is there a way to trigger an update?
[19:18] <avi_> ActionParsnip, Yeah much. But I thought that symlinks were like actual files that needed some brains on the program's side. Symlinks ftw! =)
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> Azjo: try both. You can always boot to root recovery mode to rename the file, reboot to desktop then re-rename the file back and try the other character
[19:18] <sacarlson> avi_: I see alot of activity on wine. what is it you guys run on wine to go throught all that trouble if you don't mind me asking?
[19:19] <Azjo> alright, thanks :)
[19:19] <jel> seekwill, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:19] <seekwill> jel: That will update the catalog, or the system? (or both??)
[19:19] <EdwardIII> any tips on where i need to look to fix a bluetooth keyboard being recognised and verified but not typing in any keys?
[19:19] <avi_> sacarlson, Not at all. I run two apps on their right now, Call of Duty 4, and Starcraft I. In the future, I plan to run Office (maybe) and Starcraft 2.
[19:19] <EdwardIII> i can change the keyboard preferences on it and everything
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> avi_: they are like shortcuts in windows but a LOT more powerful. The OS will use the .wine in home but the filesystem actually manipulated will be the one on the device in /media (I'm guessing its an external)
[19:20] <seekwill> jel: I guess it doesn't hurt to just do it hehe
[19:20] <jel> seekwill, both, in that order.  sudo apt-get update for just the updated list of software, sudo apt-get upgrade to update whatever software can easily be upgraded
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> avi_: if the device is usb the performane will not be as good as on the internal storage
[19:20] <avi_> ActionParsnip, yeah, it is external. And you're right, i'm used to Mac/Windows shortcuts, which.. suck. lol
[19:20] <jel> seekwill, or hit reload in synaptic
[19:20] <EdwardIII> maybe if i upgrade to the latest version instead of the LTS?
[19:21] <seekwill> jel: Hmm... your command works, but I still can't install the Lightning extension for THunderbird
[19:21] <jel> seekwill, to update the lists
[19:21] <gizmobay> I installed Google Talk. How do I start it?
[19:21] <avi_> ActionParsnip, Well, I stream 1080p video from it without issue so i think i'm fine. It's a USB2 drive.
[19:21] <jel> seekwill, can't?  Why?
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> avi_: symlinks are hugely powerful like that. Apps and such will just see a folder like it is now, but it has a. Secret ;)
[19:21] <seekwill> jel: It says the software catalog needs to be updated
[19:21] <sacarlson> avi_: ok sound like games except for duty 4?  is that a game,  office not a game.  ok cool.  sorry just wondering.
[19:21] <Pici> EdwardIII: The latest version of Ubuntu is an LTS
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> avi_: I'm not sure what that is but ok
[19:21] <madbuntu1984> sudo mount -t debugfs none_debugs /sys/kernel/debug
[19:21] <madbuntu1984> mount: none_debugs already mounted or /sys/kernel/debug busy
[19:21] <madbuntu1984> mount: according to mtab, none is already mounted on /sys/kernel/debug
[19:22] <madbuntu1984> but5 still getting that error
[19:22] <avi_> sacarlson, Yeah, call of duty is a modern (2007) first-person shooter. It's like the most popular FPS for PC, i think :)
[19:22] <avi_> ActionParsnip, HD video.
[19:22] <SomeDuncanGuy> Having an issue with my laptop, wondering i anybody can help. Freshly installed ubuntu, but it thinks my integrated wireless N is a bluetooth card (laptop doesn't even have a bluetooth card)
[19:22] <jel> seekwill, I can't find lightning in the repos.  Is it a PPA or something?
[19:22] <seekwill> PPA?
[19:23] <SomeDuncanGuy> im a total linux noob, dont even know where to start
[19:23] <ashton> me 2
[19:23] <seekwill> jel: I see it in the Ubuntu Software Center...
[19:23] <EdwardIII> tried removing it and adding it again, seems to work now. thanks!
[19:23] <jel> seekwill, do you get a more detailed error message?
[19:23] <sacarlson> avi_:  I guess they run faster than like on virtualbox in wine?  I know I can't run sound stuff on virtualbox it's not always realtime tolerent.
[19:23] <wgre0111> hello
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> avi_: I see.
[19:24] <avi_> sacarlson, Exactly. VirtualBox is great for lots of stuff, but anything graphically demanding really doesn't cut it.
[19:24] <seekwill> jel: Nope :(
[19:24] <kikela> hi, somebody use Lucid Lyns 64 on a Thinkpad T61 ?
[19:24] <EdwardIII> cheers all
[19:24] <jel> seekwill, OK, what's the package called?
[19:24] <sacarlson> avi_: ok and sound also ok got it thanks
[19:25] <seekwill> jel: That's a bit of a problem too. It doesn't show it like the others.
[19:25] <brightsitesconsu> how do tyou open port 8080 using ubuntu server?
[19:25] <ThinkTank> kikela: i've been using it on my t61p
[19:25] <jel> seekwill :)
[19:25] <seekwill> jel: :)
[19:25] <jel> seekwill I think it's probably not available now.  Did you install it previously from a deb file or something?
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> avi_: top selling fps is Half-life: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_games?wasRedirected=true
[19:25] <seekwill> jel: No, I want to add it :)
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> brightsitesconsu: its automatically open by default
[19:26] <brightsitesconsu> ActionParsnip:  ah ok. So it's an issue with tomcat then
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> brightsitesconsu: if you want access to it from the WWW you need to configure your router
[19:26] <ashton> see what?
[19:26] <seekwill> jel: http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/2847/screenshot2sg.png
[19:27] <kikela> ThinkTank: Ok, nice. This problem happened last week on my T61p. Ubuntu let the battery discharging too much, and after that i have a battery error.
[19:27] <brightsitesconsu> ActionParsnip:  it's a remote server. I've installed tomcat, and started it. but can't access by  ip:8080
[19:27] <avi_> ActionParsnip, No doubt. But HalfLife is like from 1998 or something.
[19:27] <seekwill> jel: http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/6430/screenshot1qn.png
[19:27] <ashton> ubuntu is good on my battey
[19:27] <ashton> battery
[19:27] <sain> Has any one tried google talk? i cant get in onboard microphone to work
[19:27] <ThinkTank> kikela: I've never had that problem..
[19:27] <jel> seekwill: 64-bit?
[19:27] <ashton> google talk works fine
[19:28] <seekwill> jel: yep
[19:28] <ThinkTank> kikela: what does acpi say ?
[19:28] <seekwill> jel: gah! Don't tell me it's because of that!
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> avi_: still sold more than any other fps
[19:28] <avi_> ActionParsnip, I just set up that symlink.. It's actually mind-bogglingly cool.. It's a portal to another universe!
[19:28] <kikela> ThinkTank: did you install extra packages for your Thinkpad or modify your acpi ?
[19:28]  * seekwill hugs his extra 32bits
[19:28] <sain> having problem with microphone. any ideas how to trouble shoot?
[19:28] <sacarlson> brightsitesconsu: tomcat is that like apache2 or is it the same?
[19:28] <ThinkTank> kikela: I just ran standard
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> avi_: indeed. Very very useful. Let's you move stuff wherever
[19:28] <ashton> mic problem:  call your manafacturer
[19:29] <jel> seekwill, I would suggest apt-get install thunderbird to update if necessary.  Download sunbird 64 bit from here: http://www.mozilla.org/projects/calendar/sunbird/download.html to your desktop, run thunderbird, install sunbird from the menu
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> avi_: some apps don't like symlinks but wine is ok with it
[19:29] <Kelyen> Hello
[19:29] <Kelyen> I have a little problem with grub
[19:29] <ThinkTank> kikela: how old is your battery ?
[19:29] <brightsitesconsu> sacarlson: it's java...runs seperately
[19:29] <ashton> kikela: how old is your battery?
[19:29] <seekwill> jel: I have thunderbird installed already...
[19:29] <oCean_> away
[19:29] <ashton> seekwill:  good work
[19:30] <sacarlson> brightsitesconsu: so it's java that runs a web server like apache2 oh it runs under apache2?
[19:30] <seekwill> ashton: I know huh!!! it was soooooo hard
[19:30] <Kelyen> I just reinstall grub2 on my hard drive but when i put the computer on, the grub is only showing a window with "grub>" and i don't know what to do :
[19:30] <Kelyen> ::
[19:30] <Kelyen> :/
[19:30] <jel> seekwill, OK if it's up to date.  Also, seems they're calling the new sunbird lightning now? If so, download this instead https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/2313/
[19:30] <ashton> seekwill:  just joking with ya dude
[19:30] <brightsitesconsu> sacarlson:  not under apache
[19:30] <seekwill> ah
[19:30] <seekwill> ashton: :P
[19:30] <sinister-nation> i have a question about kubuntu, I know this is Ubuntu channel but kubuntu channel no body talking over there
[19:30] <sinister-nation> can someone tell me with Kubuntu 10.04 i386 install, is there a way to install amd64 over the i386 without doing a dvd iso download?
[19:30] <seekwill> jel: Cool, I'll try it, thanks!
[19:31] <kikela> ThinkTank: hum,  i'm not sure that Ubuntu manage very well the battery of my T61p but i'm not sure it's not a coincidence
[19:31] <ashton> sinister-nation:  that sucks!!
[19:31] <sinister-nation> tell me about ashton
[19:31] <cablop> well, i have a netbook with a weird audio output/input plugin... it detects the kind of device connected and then it enable or disable aoutput or microphone... i wonder if this is done via driver and if ubuntu will deal with it :(
[19:31] <Take0n> Hello folks. Where can I find information about how to create applications for ubuntu? Like where the main app (.py file) have to be located, application icons, data (like preferences) etc.? Is there a manual or something that explains the structure and how it should be?
[19:31] <Kelyen> Please, could you help me ?
[19:31] <ThinkTank> kikela: ive been using ubuntu for all my laptops and have never had that problem. They have always gone to sleep way before the battery goes out
[19:31] <Kelyen> I just reinstall grub2 on my hard drive but when i put the computer on, the grub is only showing a window with "grub>" and i don't know what to do :
[19:32] <ashton> kikela:  ya, what kind of computer do you have?
[19:32] <ashton> kikela: a pre-95 junkie
[19:32] <sinister-nation> i can download the amd64 dvd iso but it will take forever with this 1 meg connection, and was wondering if i can do thru command lines
[19:32] <jel> Take0n, "linux filesystem standard" on wikipedia will explain the basics.  Some of that (preferences) depends on your target desktop (assuming gnome, in .local, but use the gnome APIs in that case)
[19:33] <Kelyen> ...
[19:33] <Kelyen> I just reinstall grub2 on my hard drive but when i put the computer on, the grub is only showing a window with "grub>" and i don't know what to do :
[19:33] <ashton> sinister-nation:  you need to get a faster connection bad, i pity you
[19:33] <jel> Take0n, best thing to do is pick a good, complete platform on top of linux, like GNOME or KDE, and target that, using its APIs and installers
[19:33] <sacarlson> Kelyen: well more than grub is needed on a system to make it work but I'm sure you just forgot to tell use what is under your grub.
[19:33] <jel> Take0n, or forget linux and treat the python standard as your platform, using egg files for installation perhaps
[19:33] <ashton> jel: yes of course?  why wouldn't you have GNOME on top of linux?!!
[19:33] <sinister-nation> i will once i get my cable bill caught up. had to downgrade the connetion speed to do that
[19:34] <Take0n> jel, I have already chosen gnome for that I just didn't know the main structure (folders etc.) differed between different desktops
[19:34] <Kelyen> Yes sacarlson, i have one hd0, and windows & ubuntu
[19:34] <ashton> sinister-nation:  ah been there
[19:34] <kikela> ThinkTank: ok thanks for these informations. Perhaps i'm not lucky but i came back with a battery error an impossible to charge it. I discharged the battery completly under linux and the battery won't charge anymore. Fortunately, after few days, i can charge it but i don't know why. Anyway...
[19:34] <basix-> how do i access my firewall settings on ubuntu?
[19:34] <jel> ashton, I dunno... because there's also KDE, Enlightenment, Maemo, OpenGL, MGR, OpenWin... ;)
[19:34] <Take0n> I will be using (already have written some code) python targeting gnome =)
[19:34] <TiK> basix-: ts in iptables or your router
[19:34] <ashton> kikela:  PROBLEM SOLVED: get new battery
[19:34] <Kelyen> sacarlson, but i forgot the first time to install linux in second time, so i had to reinstall the grub, and it shows nothing at startup except this "grub>"
[19:35] <ashton> jel:  true
[19:35] <basix-> TiK, how do i access iptables?
[19:35] <Migi32> help! I'm missing files in some of my directories on my RAID drive. Other directories have all their files overwritten with junk content. Is there any way to get my files back?
[19:35] <jel> basix-, run "iptables" :)
[19:35] <sacarlson> Kelyen: well not sure what state your in but grub2 is not rocket sience http://paste.ubuntu.com/484461/
[19:35] <basix-> k
[19:35] <TiK> basix-: iptables -L lists all firewall rules
[19:35] <ashton> sacarlson: SCIENCE
[19:35] <madbuntu1984> /sys/kernel/debug/usb/usbmon to /sys/kernel/debug/usb/usbmon :/
[19:36] <madbuntu1984> *
[19:36] <madbuntu1984> sudo ln -s /sys/kernel/debug/usb/usbmon /sys/kernel/debug/usbmon
[19:36] <madbuntu1984> ln: creating symbolic link `/sys/kernel/debug/usbmon': Operation not permitted
[19:36] <jel> basix: that was partly a joke.  Read man iptables to start with, then maybe the appropriate howto (linux firewall howto, I guess?)
[19:36] <sacarlson> ashton: see i'm not a sintist I didnt say I was sart.
[19:36] <jel> basix-, and then learn about ferm :)
[19:36] <ashton> sacarlson:  dont follow
[19:36] <Migi32> help! I'm missing files in some of my directories on my RAID drive. Other directories have all their files overwritten with junk content. Is there any way to get my files back?
[19:36] <Migi32> help! I'm missing files in some of my directories on my RAID drive. Other directories have all their files overwritten with junk content. Is there any way to get my files back?
[19:36] <Migi32> help! I'm missing files in some of my directories on my RAID drive. Other directories have all their files overwritten with junk content. Is there any way to get my files back?
[19:36] <FloodBot3> Migi32: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:36] <basix-> jel, K, learn about ferm?
[19:36] <Snowboy> ferm
[19:36] <sacarlson> ashton:  I'm telling you I'm not a good speller
[19:37] <basix-> what's ferm?
[19:37] <ashton> migi32:  ok don't copy and paste like that PLEASE
[19:37] <jel> basix-, it's a small enhancement to iptables which makes things iptables much nicer to set up
[19:37] <ashton> sacarlson:  gotcha
[19:37] <basix-> k
[19:37] <droes> does anyone know what components need to be installed for world of padman?
[19:37] <basix-> i've never set up a firewall with out a gui ;)
[19:37] <ashton> sacarlson:  no prob i still have trouble with spelling sometimes
[19:38] <jel> basix-, then read the howto :)
[19:38] <sacarlson> ashton: I still have PHD ask me questions as stupid as I am.
[19:38] <basix-> k
[19:38] <ashton> sacarlson:LOL
[19:39] <Take0n> jel, thanks for helping me pal I will google everything you said and hopefully make it work
[19:39] <ashton> sacarlson:just cause you can't spell, doesn't mean you're dumb
[19:39] <sacarlson> ashton: yes that's my point.  as long as they can understand and they get the info they need it doesn't mater.
[19:40] <jel> basix-, main things to know: iptables is split into INPUT, OUTPUT, and FORWARD chains.  You set default policies on each, usually REJECT or DROP on INPUT, ALLOW on OUTPUT, and REJECT or DROP on FORWARD, then add specific exception rules, like allowing connections for web stuff or mail.
[19:40] <ashton> sacarlson:absolutely
[19:40] <jel> Take0n, np :)
[19:40] <basix-> ok :)
[19:40] <flupke__> hi, my laptop freezes when I try to hibernate (it's an asus u35jc, core i3 with intel IGP), what could I try to fix that ?
[19:40] <ashton> jel: your wisdom is breathtaking
[19:40] <basix-> jel, thanks for your help
[19:41] <basix-> i have a real basic question now..
[19:41] <venzil> hello
[19:41] <basix-> when reading the man, when i get to the end of the manual what do i press to exit the man?
[19:41] <n0a1ias_> how can you look at all devices on your network?
[19:41] <jel> ashton, thanks :)  Been around here (actually, mostly debian) a while :)
[19:41] <basix-> i've always had this problem and never asked or looked it up
[19:41] <ashton> jel: debian?  is that pretty cool?
[19:41] <mikau> Guys, I've just got my second Graphics Card, SLI activated and all is well with the world. Now that I want to connect my second monitor, I though I might aswell make use of the DVI port on the new card since the old one only has one DVi then a VGA. However if I want to set up the monitor using the nvidia-tool, I've only got the option of setting it up as a new x-session, not TwinView, which is what I want. Is there a way around
[19:41] <mikau>  this or do I have to keep using the vga port on the first card for my second monitor?
[19:42] <ashton> jel: im currently using linux
[19:42] <jel> ashton, much the same.  ubuntu is prettier, debian is more reliable
[19:42] <egertonm20> basix :q will exit
[19:42] <basix-> thx egertonm20
[19:42] <ashton> jel:ah
[19:42] <avi_> Hey, does anyone know how to get compiz-fusion-plugins-unsupported? There's some cool effects in there, but it's not in the Ubuntu repos for Lucid.
[19:43] <jel> ashton, 99% of ubuntu is really debian.  They just made it look nice for new users mostly
[19:43] <manoj_> hi friends my sound was working fine with my sony vaio laptop. after i upgraded the patches my sound is not working anymore
[19:43] <timewriter> hi
[19:43] <ashton> jel:  oh ok
[19:43] <wweasel> What is the function of the "search ..." line in a Grub2 menu entry? What is the consequence of removing it?
[19:43] <timewriter> is there a way to reinstall ubuntu without losing the /home folder ?
[19:44] <ashton> weasel:bad stuff will occur
[19:44] <venzil> how can i make a linux machine into an arcade machine
[19:44] <wweasel> ashton: I'm pretty sure bad stuff will not occur, as I've commented it out and nothing odd happened. Do you know what in particular it does?
[19:44] <ashton> wweasel:  not really
[19:44] <jel> wweasel, I would guess that it tells grub to look for your kernel on whichever drives it can see, instead of just trying to boot the first drive in the system or something like that.  Read the man page though to be sure
[19:44] <sacarlson> venzil: install some game software?
[19:45] <Oer> avi http://wiki.compiz.org/PluginsUnsupported
[19:45] <Kelyen> sacarlson, i'm not very good at englishlol, but does a command exist in the "grub>" to launch one of my partition ?
[19:45] <n0a1ias_> so is a samba server, a secure print server?
[19:45] <jellow> venzil: fun project , you can look at variosu emulators for snes and such
[19:45] <venzil> sacarlson: make a computer boot right into the emulator. is that possible?
[19:45] <ashton> venIl:yes it is
[19:46] <soreau> avi_: Can install -unsupported and more http://forum.compiz.org/viewtopic.php?f=114&t=12012
[19:46] <sacarlson> Kelyen: no not one but I think the gui setup will allow you to change the default start
[19:46] <Kelyen> the gui setup ?
[19:46] <Kelyen> In your paste ?
[19:46] <jel> venzil, disable keyboard errors in your bios, buy/build an arcade-style games cabinet and joystick, setup X to login automatically, and to run something like XMame
[19:46] <Oer> avi_, https://launchpad.net/~compiz/+archive/ppa
[19:46] <ashton> sacarlson:it will allow you to
[19:46] <linis> manoj_: open up a terminal and hit 'alsamixer'
[19:46] <soreau> Oer: I win
[19:46] <jel> jel: and hammer the computer inside the cabinet or something :)
[19:47] <avi_> thanks a ton soreau and Oer!
[19:47] <Reddragon> Just trying to learn xchat hello every one
[19:47] <egertonm20> n0a1ias_: no it's not secure but samba enables printing to a Windows hosted printer
[19:47] <Oer> soreau, +1 :-D
[19:47] <soreau> avi_: I wrote that script, please give it a try :) It is designed to work on ubuntu
[19:47] <sacarlson> venzil: I never tried.  you mean like virtualbox?
[19:47] <linis> manoj_: and see all the options are 00 and not MM
[19:47] <sacarlson> ashton: allow me to what?
[19:47] <venzil> eah
[19:47] <Milez> im at my wits end tryin to get 5.1 audio passthrough hdmi workin on my Revo 1600 (ION/Nvidia).. all of my movies play with only the L and R channels, which usually means i cant hear anyone talking.  im running karmic, with alsa 1.0.23, nvidia 190, and xbmc 9.11.  I've gotten this working before on lucid, so i know the reciever, and TV work right.    Should i just go back to Lucid? or should i
[19:47] <Milez> try 10.04 ??  im lost. :(
[19:47] <jellow> venzil: you could install fluxbox or some very basic window manager and edit /etc/passwd to point to the emulator and not /bin/bash
[19:48] <madbuntu1984> sudo ln -s /sys/kernel/debug/usb/usbmon/0u /sys/kernel/debug/usbmon/0u
[19:48] <madbuntu1984> ln: creating symbolic link `/sys/kernel/debug/usbmon/0u': No such file or directory
[19:48] <madbuntu1984>  <--- any way to get round that?
[19:48] <venzil> oh
[19:48] <linis> manoj_: press m to change from MM to 00
[19:48] <jel> venzil, a lot of the tivo-style mediabox frontends support playing games, sometimes mame stuff.  That might be a good starting point, depending on how authentic you want it to be.
[19:48] <ashton> sacarlson:  allow to change the default start for gui
[19:48] <avi_> soreau, Oh, well in that case, I must. What are the advantages of using your script over the PPA?
[19:48] <linis> manoj_: MM means muted
[19:48] <manoj_> ok will try that out
[19:48] <sacarlson> ashton: yes I sent him a file that told him the method to setup with a gui http://paste.ubuntu.com/484461/
[19:49] <Azjo> hi, nvidia x server settings will not even accept 1024x768@60.. maybe there is something else wrong? http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/5ua46PPW
[19:49] <soreau> avi_: I do not know what ppa does what, I just know the script installs the five in -unsupported plus 15 more, if you so choose
[19:49] <sacarlson> ashton: can you fix the spelling in that and test and make sure that is correct?
[19:49] <avi_> soreau, Oh that's great then. I'll give it a shot!
[19:50] <ashton> ashton:sure
[19:50] <ashton> sacarlson:my bad sure
[19:50] <manoj_> linis my volume is at full and nothing was muted
[19:50] <sacarlson> ashton: oh was that a question?
[19:50] <ashton> sacarlson:back in a sec
[19:51] <linis> manoj_: you tried alsamixer ??
[19:51] <manoj_> when i connect my headphone i can hear a very faint volume
[19:51] <manoj_> yes i did try alsamixer the CUI
[19:51] <n0a1ias_> waht packages do i need to set up home sharring?
[19:51] <manoj_> from the terminal i run alsamixer and checked
[19:51] <trollboy> for some reason my eth0 shows unplugged even though its not, and when I reboot into a rescue/install disk, it works just fine
[19:51] <jel> manoj_, what kind of headphones?  Simple ones with a jack, or usb ones?
[19:52] <linis> manoj_: ok, now try this http://monespaceperso.org/blog-en/2009/05/09/upgrade-alsa-1020-on-ubuntu-jaunty-904/
[19:52] <trollboy> Is there a way to fix this?
[19:52] <manoj_> just with the jack
[19:52] <jel> manoj_, speakers are OK?
[19:52] <Reddragon> is any one here familiar with mail notifier for evolution in lucid lynx?
[19:52] <manoj_> nope
[19:52] <madbuntu1984> ubuntu fails
[19:52] <madbuntu1984> root@shaun-desktop:/home/shaun# mkdir /sys/kernal/debug/usbmon
[19:52] <madbuntu1984> mkdir: cannot create directory `/sys/kernal/debug/usbmon': No such file or directory
[19:52] <manoj_> yep the speakers are perfectly fine i was orking today too
[19:53] <manoj_> after the upgrade it stopped working
[19:53] <jel> manoj_, dunno, unless it's just keeping different volume levels for when the headphones are plugged in.  Sounds like you've tried adjusting the volume with the headphones plugged though.
[19:54] <avi_> Does anyone here know when compiz 0.9 will be stable/ready for normal desktop use?
[19:54] <jel> manoj_, this is the jack on your speakers, or on the PC?
[19:54] <jel> sorry, jack socket
[19:55] <jel> madbuntu1984, you spelt kernel wrong
[19:55] <manoj_> let me try the method that linus specified
[19:55] <manoj_> cause i tried the same thing last time i compiled my own alsa drivers
[19:55] <manoj_> so this might work out
[19:55] <dtSkull> question how do I exit cmus on the terminal?
[19:55] <manoj_> the jack is with my laptop
[19:55] <jel> dtSkull, try Ctrl-D
[19:55] <dtSkull> ok 1 sec
[19:56] <trollboy> anyone see my question?
[19:56] <madbuntu1984> jel im creating the dir
[19:56] <trollboy> for some reason my eth0 shows unplugged even though its not, and when I reboot into a rescue/install disk, it works just fine
[19:56] <cablop> well, i have a netbook with a weird audio output/input plugin... it detects the kind of device connected and then it enable or disable aoutput or microphone... i wonder if this is done via driver and if ubuntu will deal with it :(
[19:56] <madbuntu1984> so I should be able to spell it how ever, the point is, it wouldnt allow me to do it, "No such file or directory"
[19:56] <avi_> soreau, Dude, your script is totally awesome!
[19:57] <Jordan_U> trollboy: Does "sudo ifconfig eth0 up" change anything?
[19:57] <madbuntu1984> root@shaun-desktop:/home/shaun# sudo ln -s /sys/kernel/debug/usb/usbmon/0u /sys/kernel/debug/usbmon/
[19:57] <madbuntu1984> ln: target `/sys/kernel/debug/usbmon/' is not a directory: No such file or directory
[19:57] <madbuntu1984>  @ jel
[19:57] <jel> dtSkull, oh, I was thinking of something else.  Never used cmus, but usually q, Ctrl-Q, Ctrl-X Ctrl-X, F10, escape.  Alternatively, ctrl-alt-f2, login, run pkill cmus :D
[19:57] <trollboy> Jordan_U, nothing, just new line
[19:58] <dtskull> nop Crtl+D did not work to exit cmus
[19:58] <yeags> hi
[19:58] <jel> madbuntu1984, no, you can't spell it however, any more than you can drive on whatever side of the road you like.
[19:58] <ubuntu> sacarlson, ok i have installed startupmanager but now it says that there no grub.cfg, it's normal because i'm on live cd, but how i can make startup manager start with the grub.cfg of my other HD ?
[19:58] <madbuntu1984> root@shaun-desktop:/home/shaun# sudo ln -s /sys/kernel/debug/usb/usbmon/0u /sys/kernel/debug/usbmon
[19:58] <madbuntu1984> ln: creating symbolic link `/sys/kernel/debug/usbmon': Operation not permitted
[19:58] <Jordan_U> trollboy: It's expected that there would be no output. What program is showing the interface as not being connected?
[19:58] <FFForever> Does kubuntu use pulseaudio?
[19:58] <madbuntu1984> jel root@shaun-desktop:/home/shaun# sudo ln -s /sys/kernel/debug/usb/usbmon/0u /sys/kernel/debug/usbmon
[19:58] <madbuntu1984> ln: creating symbolic link `/sys/kernel/debug/usbmon': Operation not permitted
[19:58] <madbuntu1984>  got a way round that then?
[19:59] <yeags> I have Ubuntu 8.04.4 LTS with Samba 3.0 installed, i'd like to upgrade to Samba 3.5, is there a simple method? I tried apt-get upgrade samba and it didn't work
[19:59] <jel> FFForever, I think KDE 4.5 does, so if kubuntu is updated, it can, maybe not by default
[19:59] <trollboy> Jordan_U, the network indicator in the upper right hand corner
[19:59] <cablop> can ubuntu detect a mixed plug in a netbook? i men that king of connector that autodetects if you connected a microphone or a heaset or speakers... i don't want to damage my computer
[19:59] <sacarlson> ubuntu: wow well that proves that we can't use startupmanager from a live cd.
[19:59] <trollboy> Jordan_U, also all applications including ping show no network connection
[19:59] <cablop> and it seems nobody knows if ubuntu can... and i don't want to hurt my system
[19:59] <FFForever> jel, how do I find out what audio system I am using right now?
[19:59] <ubuntu> ok sacarlson :(
[20:00] <ubuntu> So what can i do ?
[20:00] <steelnwool> I've got a 10.4 server here, that just started going ape. In so much as SSH / https have becomevery unresponsive. I installed rng-tools , as i suspected low entropy, and its not helping.
[20:00] <steelnwool> the disks aren't thrashing
[20:00] <ubuntu> I have the "grub>" and it's still the same
[20:00] <jel> FFForever, it's been a while... go to the control panel/settings, look for Phonon.
[20:00] <steelnwool> and i have 3.6 gigs of ram fre.
[20:00] <manoj_> i have another doubt . i have a desktop running on windows 7 and i have shared folders i am able to access these folders from my laptop with windows 7 but when i try ti access it with ubuntu i am not able to access it
[20:00] <dtskull> when I hit crtl+C on CMUS it tell me to type quit, but typing does nothing while running the program on the terminal. any ideas?
[20:00] <sacarlson> ubuntu so without being able to boot from where you plan to run seems you still have to mount and manualy edit grub configs on that drive
[20:01] <jel> steelnwool, sounds like you're out of memory.  Install atop, run it, look for colored lines :)
[20:01] <avi_> soreau, Wow finished it. That was seriously the most awesome script ever. Loved the colors too :D
[20:01] <trollboy> Jordan_U?
[20:01] <dougb_freebsd> Is there a way to stop my wi-fi connected light on my laptop to stop blinking when there is traffic on the link?
[20:01] <steelnwool> jel, i have 3.6 gigs of ram free.
[20:01] <steelnwool> and not hitting swap.
[20:01] <jel> steelnwool, oh, fair enough then :)
[20:01] <Kelyen> yep sacarlson, but i can't because it says that i have no permissions to do that
[20:01] <Jordan_U> Kelyen: Can you run boot info script as explained here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1291280 and pastebin the RESULTS.txt ?
[20:01] <Kelyen> ok Jordan_U
[20:02] <sacarlson> ubuntu seems you can still run the sudo grub-install /dev/sda from the live cd and most boots will be visible in boot. so after booting where you plan to stay you can install and run startupmanager and make you home permanent
[20:03] <Jordan_U> trollboy: Does "sudo dhclient eth0" give you an ip address / allow you to ping?
[20:03] <Kelyen> yeah sacarlson i have already do that
[20:03] <Kelyen> i have already reinstall the grub
[20:03] <jel> steelnwool, entropy sounds plausible then, depending on what the system's doing.  Also check DNS, interrupts, general hardware problems.
[20:03] <majeszko> I've got ubuntu 10.4.1 In java games I can't open full screen, anyone know what problem can be?
[20:03] <Kelyen> by the way in os-prober, i see ubuntu and windows
[20:04] <manoj_> going for a restart
[20:04] <jel> steelnwool, logs would be a good start :)
[20:04] <Kelyen> Jordan_U, no such file or directory :(
[20:04] <sacarlson> Kelyen:  so boot and hold the shift key to get into manual grub control and boot the kernel/partition you want as your home
[20:04] <dougb_freebsd> Kelyen: I found this very helpful and easy to use:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[20:04] <trollboy> Jordan_U, its running DHCPDISCOVER atm against 255.255.255.255, shouldn't it be 255.255.255.0?
[20:04] <steelnwool> jel its a VM, and other vm's on same hardare are working fine, so i'm less suspect of that.  looking up some logs now.
[20:04] <Kelyen> ok i will try both, thanks sacarlson, dougb_freebsd
[20:04] <Jordan_U> trollboy: No, the broadcast address is 255.
[20:05] <cablop> can ubuntu use the netbook audio input thjing?
[20:05] <trollboy> Jordan_U, No DHCPOFFERS received.
[20:05] <cablop> or will i burn my system just using ubuntu?
[20:05] <jel> steelnwool, ahh.
[20:05] <trollboy> Jordan_U, No working leases in persistent database - sleeping
[20:05] <Jordan_U> Kelyen: Did you follow the directions exactly?
[20:07] <Jordan_U> Kelyen: Since you're using 10.04, whose download directory is ~/Downloads, you want to run the second command "sudo bash ~/Downloads/boot_info_script*.sh
[20:07] <Guest7188> feck. Does anyone have a link or some information on setting up a distrubuted system on a collection of of old xboxs with linux installed? The objective being to create an xbox "supercomputer"
[20:07] <Jordan_U> trollboy: Can you pastebin the output of "ifconfig"?
[20:07] <trollboy> Jordan_U, how would I do that?
[20:07] <Guest7188> use piping jordan
[20:08] <trollboy> lemme see if I can dump to txt, and then usb drive it over here
[20:10] <Guest7188> trollboy: ifconfig | nano
[20:10] <Guest7188> the output will be nano.save
[20:10] <jimcooncat> how do I tell (from terminal) what graphics driver is currently in use?
[20:10] <Guest7188> can anyone here help me setup a distrubuted system over some old networked xbox's?
[20:11] <Jordan_U> jimcooncat: Look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log .
[20:11] <jimcooncat> thanks Jordan_U
[20:11] <trollboy> Guest7188, had you been listening, my networking is not working, how am I to pastebin anything
[20:11] <Jordan_U> jimcooncat: You're welcome.
[20:11] <sacarlson> jimcooncat:  well modprobe -l gives you all the drivers
[20:11] <jel> Guest7188, I think blender guys built a renderfarm on xboxes
[20:11] <Guest7188> really? interesting. Do you know where I can contact them?
[20:11] <AndrewMC> #ubuntu-proxy-users
[20:12] <AndrewMC> oh im sorry
[20:12] <trollboy> Jordan_U, http://pastebin.ca/1927068
[20:12] <marcuy> !hello | compatt
[20:12] <compatt> hi everybody
[20:12] <Kelyen> ok Jordan_U, i follow the steps
[20:12] <Kelyen> but there's a little problem
[20:12] <compatt> is this the channel where i can ask for help
[20:12] <compatt> ??
[20:12] <jel> Guest7188, first thing to do is google blender xbox renderfarm and start reading
[20:12] <sebsebseb> compatt: yes
[20:12] <Kelyen> It says that i havent the permissions to read core.img correctly Jordan_U :/
[20:12] <Guest7188> ah I see. Wonderful google. Thanks Jel
[20:13] <yeags> In a respositories statement, e.g. deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy main restricted
[20:13] <deevz> why a renderfarm on xboxes?
[20:13] <avi_> does anyone know how I can get the Evolution that will be in Maverick in Lucid?
[20:13] <yeags> what does restricted mean?
[20:13] <jel> Guest7188, also google linux cluster powerpc
[20:13] <deevz> kind of silly
[20:13] <Guest7188> because we can deevsz. because we can :)
[20:13] <compatt> well I'm new with ubuntu and I've got a little problem with commands, especially mouse
[20:13] <deevz> lol
[20:13] <deevz> but wouldnt it be cheaper to use pc's?
[20:13] <madbuntu1984> anyone got a solution?? root@shaun-desktop:/home/shaun# sudo ln -s /sys/kernel/debug/usb/usbmon/0u /sys/kernel/debug/usbmon
[20:13] <sebsebseb> !google | jel
[20:13] <jel> Guest7188, oh, wait, xbox360 is ppc, xbox is p3
[20:13] <Jordan_U> Kelyen: Could you pastebin the exact error message?
[20:13] <Kelyen> ok
[20:13] <seca> Can you guys use amazon s3 as a networked drive?
[20:14] <Guest7188> I can get old xboxs cheap.. it's a p3 700 processor self contained system
[20:14] <compatt> at the begininng every is allright
[20:14] <sebsebseb> compatt: mouse commands?
[20:14] <jel> Fair enough sebsebseb :)
[20:14] <jel> Guest7188, very limited memory though, be careful it'll do what you need
[20:14] <jel> (it might)
[20:14] <sebsebseb> !details | compatt
[20:14] <Kelyen> Jordan_U, http://pastebin.com/VLM85c1N but i think it's because i can't access to the files in my /media/Linux
[20:15] <Guest7188> I wonder if I could setup a parallel xbox distributed system to circumvent the bandwidth bottleneck..
[20:16] <Guest7188> :|
[20:16] <jel> what bandwidth?
[20:16] <mreh> sounds like a compulsive programmer project
[20:16] <deevz> the google-fu?
[20:16] <Jordan_U> Kelyen: I never told you to run grub-install, I asked you to run boot info script.
[20:16] <deevz> lol
[20:16] <ashton> jel:that's the problem
[20:16] <sacarlson> Guest7188: I was trying to help someone that had xubuntu running on it wanted to get more but we found not much more he could do with ubuntu but gento sounded like it had hope.
[20:16] <Jordan_U> Kelyen: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1291280
[20:16] <Guest7188> network bandwidth
[20:17] <yeags> anyone able to help me understand how best to upgrade samba? I have 3.0 installed on 8.04 LTS, and apt-get upgrade samba isn't working
[20:17] <kedarm> Does anyone know how I can create a Keyboard shortcut for taking screenshot of a particular area? (Print does entire screen, Alt+Print does the window with focus). Mac has a nice shortcut for this (Cmd+Shift+4)
[20:17] <jimcooncat> If I wanted to keep simple graphics all the time, can I?: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.failsafe /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:17] <steelnwool> define isn't owrking. is it on teh couch all day  with popcorn? not coming in to work? screwing the bosses girlfriend ?
[20:17] <trollboy> Jordan_U, I'm going to go smoke a cigarette real quick (kinda stressed today with my main box being down) but did you see my pastebin?
[20:17] <KASH> http://www.monolite.netsons.org/2008/05/28/motore-di-ricerca-file-su-irc-xdcc/
[20:17] <jel> Guest7188, you want to use processing power of a distributed system to solve a network bandwidth problem?  Unless you're talking about some cool new compression system, that's not going to work
[20:18] <Jordan_U> trollboy: Yes.
[20:18] <trollboy> ok brb
[20:18] <Guest7188> lol I know jel
[20:18] <Guest7188> just musing out loud
[20:18] <jel> Guest7188: Hmm.   OK
[20:18] <blt23> anyone have any problems?
[20:19] <jimcooncat> blt23: sure, you want to help?
[20:19] <blt23> who likes chicken?
[20:19] <blt23> jimcooncat: sure
[20:19] <jel> Guest7188, a p2p-based distributed processing system might help :)
[20:19] <jimcooncat> blt23: If I wanted to keep simple graphics all the time, can I?: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf.failsafe /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:19] <sacarlson> jimcooncat: simple like vesa graphic safe?  I'm looking for a solution for that.
[20:19] <jel> Guest7188, ie, borrow everyone's bandwidth :)
[20:20] <blt23> jimcooncat:yes you can
[20:20] <jimcooncat> sacarlson: yes, I can only get good video if I use the failsafe graphics mode
[20:20] <xorwhy> I'm looking for a open source alternative to Mathematica?
[20:20] <blt23> jel:how would that happen?
[20:20] <Guest7188> lol
[20:21] <jimcooncat> thanks blt23. Now I'll have to help someone.
[20:21] <blt23> jimcooncat:???
[20:21] <jel> blt23, think blender rendering over boink: everyone contributes some resources long-term, because they get a lot in a hurry when they occasionally need it.
[20:21] <Guest7188> If I could use netcat to redirect their traffic.. I need some way of bottlenecking it
[20:21] <sacarlson> jimcooncat: failsafe?  how do you get into failsafe graphic mode.  I"m told that xforcevesa in grub2 boot will do that but I havn't tried it yet.
[20:21] <blt23> jel:what the...????
[20:21] <jel> Guest7188, trickle?
[20:22] <Guest7188> roflmao
[20:22] <Guest7188> excellent1
[20:22] <Guest7188> If I get caught I'm in big trouble, but that might do
[20:22] <jimcooncat> sacarlson: It's an option after you choose the recovery kernel from grub
[20:22] <sacarlson> jimcooncat: and this option is........?
[20:22] <blt23> Guest7188:if you get caught DOING WHAT???
[20:22] <larme> wow Obama is suing SeaWord
[20:23] <jel> blt23: Guest7188: I was talking about something people volunteer for, not something you steal from people :)
[20:23] <Guest7188> blt23: hijacking network bandwidth ofcourse
[20:23] <ispot> hello,how to set pppoe to support multiple adsl modemes?
[20:23] <blt23> larme:who cares?
[20:23] <sacarlson> jimcooncat:  so just recovery asks you this or if forces vesa?
[20:23] <blt23> guest7188: lol ya whatever
[20:23] <jimcooncat> sacarlson: yes, recovery prompts for several options, one of which is failsafeX
[20:23] <ratdog> first how can i recover my freenode pass?
[20:23] <trollboy> Jordan_U, I am back, any thoughts?
[20:24] <ispot> hello,who knows how to set pppoe to support multiple adsl modemes?
[20:24] <KASH> D
[20:24] <jimcooncat> btw, that copy command worked!
[20:24] <sacarlson> jimcooncat: I thought recover didn't go to graphic mode at all
[20:24] <ph8> hi all, is ubuntu.com down?
[20:24] <larme> blt: sorry didn't mean to dump my copy-paste buffer in here
[20:24] <KASH> !list
[20:24] <ph8> ubuntuforums as well
[20:24] <ph8> i'm getting timeouts
[20:24] <ThePCKid> No, it's not
[20:24] <larme> blt23: sorry didn't mean to dump my copy-paste buffer in here
[20:24] <blt23> larme: no prob
[20:24] <ThePCKid> For me
[20:24] <ph8> thx
[20:24] <larme> ok
[20:24] <blt23> larme:youre a scream
[20:24] <ratdog> ubuntu down for servicing
[20:25] <sacarlson> jimcooncat: ok I think that requires more investigation by my studens
[20:25] <ratdog> first how can i recover my freenode pass?
[20:25] <blt23> larme:youre a scream
[20:25] <Lenin_Cat> I am trying to install Ubuntu on my netbook but I dont have a flash drive avabile atm
[20:25] <Jordan_U> ratdog: Try asking in #freenode
[20:25] <blt23> ratdog:ubuntu down for servicing?
[20:25] <Guest7188> who was it looking to extract ifconfig output into a file?
[20:26] <blt23> has anyone ever cracked a network?
[20:26] <ratdog> blt23 the servers are being serviced
[20:26] <Jordan_U> trollboy: No, sorry.
[20:26] <ratdog> i read it earlyer
[20:26] <blt23> ratdog: that doesn't affect me
[20:26] <Guest7188> blt23: exactly what do you mean by crack?
[20:26] <ratdog> heh
[20:26] <ratdog> ok :)
[20:26] <Guest7188> this isn't a l33t chan
[20:26] <corpsicle> hi, i cant login to my gnome keyring anymore, what could be the problem ?
[20:26] <corpsicle> i havent set any other passwords
[20:27] <blt23> guest7188: get the key and infiltrate the network of course
[20:27] <ratdog> Guest7188 kThnx
[20:27] <corpsicle> could i uninstall/reinstall gnome keyring ?
[20:27] <sacarlson> blt23: network you mean wifi? yes my own.
[20:27] <Pici> blt23: This isn't the channel for that.
[20:27] <jimcooncat> sacarlson: I rebooted to see. It boots into a text-mode "dialog" menu, and failsafeX is there. After that, it will load X and then start asking troubleshooting questions, none of which helped on my box.
[20:27] <blt23> sacarlson: what encryption?
[20:27] <blt23> pici:for what?
[20:28] <Guest7188> you mean an encrypted network? mmm.. I've cracked the manulife netwrok
[20:28] <Guest7188> it was a joke
[20:28] <Pici> blt23: This is a support channel, but we do not condone or support cracking in any forms.
[20:28] <sacarlson> blt23: yes wep encryption
[20:28] <Guest7188> they had an active wep server
[20:28] <blt23> pici:tell that to guest7188 as well then
[20:28] <sacarlson> jimcooncat: ok thanks I will try this if not my students
[20:28] <deevz> whats manulife
[20:28] <Guest7188> I mean, who uses WEP?
[20:28] <Guest7188> wtf
[20:28] <corpsicle> ill just uninstall keyring then
[20:28] <Guest7188> an insurance company
[20:29] <blt23> guest7188 no me
[20:29] <blt23> the nail salon next door to moe's
[20:29] <Pici> Guest7188: Please mind your language here and also note that cracking is not supported here.  Additionally, this is not a discussion channel, only support.  General chatter belongs in #ubuntu-offtopic.
[20:29] <Guest7188> righto pico. Received 5 by 4
[20:29] <Guest7188> ;)
[20:30] <blt23> pici:  sorry pic i got carried away
[20:30] <Guest7188> cracking = hacking these days.. sigh
[20:30] <Guest7188> no respect
[20:30] <Guest7188> it's cool blt23.. you're not banned :)
[20:30] <jel> ispot, this might help: http://www.broadbandreports.com/forum/r20456553-MLPPP-Guide-on-Linux
[20:31] <Furtano> Why has my fresh ubuntu 10.4 installation has no boot menu entry for my windows 7, only for the ubuntu entrys?
[20:31] <xorwhy> People who use WEP, 90% of Verizon Fios users.
[20:31] <ispot> jel,thank you
[20:31] <sacarlson> Guest7188: I call it security testing
[20:31] <Furtano> Why has my fresh ubuntu 10.4 installation has no boot menu entry for my windows 7?
[20:31] <jel> ispot, np :)
[20:31] <Guest7188> true that sacarlson
[20:31] <Guest7188> :)
[20:31] <blt23> guest7188: good hey for what its worth, it's not like you used any language you just gave the letters
[20:31] <xorwhy> People who also use WEP, 90% of those on Fios would "shouldn't be"
[20:31] <Jordan_U> Furtano: What is the output of "sudo os-prober"?
[20:31] <peaces> in ubuntu, if i mv dir/* dir2/ and then rmdir dir/ ...it's not empty. i could be wrong but i thought most other distros include hidden files in *. how can i get ubuntu to include ALL files when i say mv *?
[20:31] <Furtano> Jordan_U, http://pastebin.com/sKuw3CRG
[20:32] <blt23> xorwhy:  what?
[20:32] <tew88> I'm trying to get my USB wireless adapter to work. lsusb shows it as a Ralink 3370. Can anyone help?
[20:32] <trollboy> is there a way to re-install ubuntu and just have it overwrite the system files and leave my userdir alone?
[20:32] <Furtano> Jordan_U, no result with os-prober
[20:32] <blt23> trollboy: yep ask sacarlson
[20:32] <xorwhy> I can't help but find it mildly entertaining that sudo and psuedo sound the same, it sounds like you're saying false this false that.
[20:32] <larme> trollboy: I really hope this isn't your everyday name :p
[20:32] <dougb_freebsd> peaces: hidden files should never be included in *, and I've never seen a version of Unix that did that
[20:32] <trollboy> larme, old college nickname, I'm rather large and scary
[20:33] <jimcooncat> trollboy: easy if you made a separate partition for /home
[20:33] <peaces> dougb_freebsd: ok, so how do i move the entire contents of one folder to another
[20:33] <blt23> trollboy:lol
[20:33] <Guest7188> paeces use ls -a to find those dastardly hidden files
[20:33] <Hasanibrahim> hello, is there any keyboard short to show destkop ? like on windows ( win + d )
[20:33] <peaces> mv * && mv .* ??
[20:33] <trollboy> blt23, is sacarlson a bot? if so how do I trigger this response
[20:33] <trollboy> jimcooncat, nope, 1 partition
[20:33] <dougb_freebsd> peaces: mv dir dir2 should do what you want, if I understand what you're asking correctly
[20:33] <Jordan_U> Furtano: Did you delete any ntfs partitons?
[20:33] <xorwhy> bit23 The WEP comment. Stated the fact that Verizon deploys WEP by default with its routers during installation, which users are prompted to use.
[20:33] <blt23> trollboy:  a bot i don't think so
[20:33] <Guest7188> lol!!!!!
[20:33] <Furtano> Jordan_U, yes my data ntfs partition
[20:33] <scottj> What's the command ubuntu tells you on first boot to run to print the passphrase for your encrypted home dir?
[20:34] <blt23> trollboy: sonds too inteligent
[20:34] <Guest7188> xorwhy that is f-ing hilarious
[20:34] <ilovefairuz> !ot
[20:34] <Pici> !ot | Guest7188 xorwhy
[20:34] <jel> trollboy, if you installed with LVM, best way would be to resize your root partition, make a new home partition, move your files there, then reinstall to the root partition.  You could also boot a live cd and run debootstrap on the partition; might have to delete a lot of system files before debootstrap would run, but I don't think so.
[20:34] <trollboy> so you're just messing with me or sacarlson then?
[20:34] <Guest7188> bah
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[20:34] <Jordan_U> Furtano: Unfortunately I think that was also being used as your windows "system" partition, without which windows cannot boot.
[20:34] <peaces> dougb_freebsd: what if dir2 isn't empty, and i just want to mv or cp everything in dir to dir2?
[20:34] <jel> trollboy, it's all fairly technical though, a backup would be much simpler and safer
[20:34] <jimcooncat> trollboy: if you have a way to back up your home, that would be the starting point
[20:34] <Guest7188> pici you're a real buzzkil
[20:34] <blt23> trollboy:  i'm not messing with either of you
[20:34] <ratdog> kk, why does ubuntu software center stop auterising my password after a a few weeks of using ubuntu?
[20:34] <larme> trollboy: ah
[20:34] <maco> trollboy: jel is wrong
[20:35] <dougb_freebsd> peaces: back up dir2 first, then try it ... the best way to learn is by trying :)
[20:35] <larme> trollboy: I just hope you don't use it on UseNet :P
[20:35] <Furtano> Jordan_U, oh thats ***, what can i do now ?
[20:35] <maco> trollboy: ubuntu's installer does not delete the contents of /home if you tell it to reinstall with the same partition
[20:35] <ilovefairuz> ratdog: it shouldn't
[20:35] <blt23> ratdog: what do you mean you have to type it in each time you open the software center
[20:35] <guestMS> Don't you have other things to do!!
[20:35] <jel> maco: ahh, that's good to know :)
[20:35] <maco> trollboy: just choose the manual partition option, tell it to use the same partition, and set it not to format
[20:35] <firstgearone> when doing apt-get install package is there a way to find out the version in the command console before installing it?
[20:35] <trollboy> maco ok thanks
[20:35] <Guest7188> guestMS: work.. but I'm paid either way
[20:35] <Jordan_U> Furtano: I don't know, try asking in ##windows.
[20:35] <majuk_> Can anyone school me on the process of hotplugging network devices? I see it renames the unknown device from wlan0 to wlan#. Where does this happen?
[20:35] <VCoolio> firstgearone: apt-cache policy package
[20:35] <blt23> guest7188:lol
[20:36] <firstgearone> VCoolio: thanks
[20:36] <ratdog> blt23 yes, then it just sits there an wont auth. then it crashes
[20:36] <blt23> sacarlson:  come on man
[20:36] <Furtano> Jordan_U, should format and reinstall windows and then windows solve the problem ?
[20:36] <blt23> sacarlson:  if he's a bot, maybe his battery died
[20:36] <jel> maco: just curious... will it clear out system files that should exist in a fresh install, like /etc/cron.d, say?
[20:37] <ilovefairuz> majuk_: check if it has an entry in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[20:37] <majuk_> ilovefairuz! Thanks.
[20:37] <Guest7188> Furtano: Holy f-ing christ. What windoze vers are you using?
[20:37] <Lenin_Cat> I am trying to install Ubuntu on my netbook but I dont have a flash drive avabile atm
[20:37] <maco> jel: i think it deletes everything that's not in /home
[20:37] <ilovefairuz> !language | Guest7188
[20:37] <Furtano> Guest7188, windows 7, why ?
[20:37] <turt1e> Anyone using the proprietary Nvidia drivers with compiz in ubuntu 10.04?  I've got it up and running but getting a lot of screen tearing compared to the ATI x1400 that I'm use to.  Thinkpad t61p laptop if it matters
[20:37] <blt23> ratdog:that is weird
[20:37] <Guest7188> FAQ
[20:37] <maco> jel: but ive never actually dug through to see if anything's left
[20:37] <ratdog> blt23 i have reinstalled it too
[20:37] <blt23> ratdog:backup your files and reinstalled ubuntu
[20:37] <ratdog> :(
[20:38] <blt23> ratdog:reinstall completely
[20:38] <ratdog> its happend b4
[20:38] <ratdog> after installing
[20:38] <ratdog> re
[20:38] <jel> trollboy, that's one thing to watch out for then... if you reinstall over an existing install, linux is quite file-based in its config, and might try to run things from the old setup still.
[20:38] <blt23> ratdog:  get a different version of ubuntu
[20:38] <JoeJoe123> right
[20:38] <JoeJoe123> that was very uncool
[20:38] <jel> trollboy, but at least you'd know the basic files were good, and could maybe clean it up from there
[20:38] <ratdog> i have lucid
[20:38] <blt23> ratdog:  i have unr 10.04
[20:39] <JoeJoe123> Who was the dude with the prob with windoze 7
[20:39] <trollboy> jel Yeah, I'm kinda without a lot of choices here
[20:39] <maco> jel: default files would be overwritten, i just dont know about ones you add later
[20:39] <ratdog> there got to be a fix
[20:39] <Jordan_U> Furtano: Yes, re-installing windows will work. You don't need to re-install Ubuntu (though if you want to anyway that will work). To just restore grub after windows clobbers it follow : http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide
[20:39] <jel> maco: yep
[20:39] <blt23> ya i don't know
[20:39] <frankbro> If I have pae enabled, I should be able to use more than 4gig of ram on a 32 bit right ?
[20:39] <n0a1ias> hey, my netbook came with a webcam, how do i get that to work?
[20:39] <jel> maco: I'm thinking a lot of additional packages might have files lying around, but not be officially installed any more
[20:40] <trollboy> I did a fresh wipe not long ago
[20:40] <JoeJoe123> IdleOne: you're a t Watt
[20:40] <trollboy> halfway tempted to jsut do another
[20:40] <trollboy> been having problems with X freezing tight as well
[20:40] <jel> trollboy, why are you needing to reinstall twice in a short time?
[20:40] <trollboy> been having problems with X freezing tight as well
[20:40] <maco> jel: yeah i know what ya mean
[20:40] <ilovefairuz> !pae | frankbro
[20:40] <blt23> n0alias: just get it set up with the software that came with it
[20:41] <frankbro> Yea, my grub says pae enabled
[20:41] <n0a1ias> blt23, it came with windows 7
[20:41] <Furtano> Jordan_U, ok thanks :)
[20:41] <ilovefairuz> trollboy: pastebing: lshw -C display
[20:41] <indyy> Hello. I want to install PAE. Should I uninstall my old kernel(s)?
[20:41] <Jordan_U> Furtano: You're welcome.
[20:41] <indyy> Just for space issues.
[20:41] <Colloguy> anyone know of version control software that will follow symlinks?
[20:41] <ilovefairuz> indyy: kernels are exremely small
[20:41] <blt23> n0alias:  doesn't matter just set it up with the cd that came with it
[20:42] <jel> Colloguy, follow?  Or track?
[20:42] <trollboy> ilovefairuz, no networking atm I'm not pastebinning much
[20:42] <Colloguy> jel: follow, instead of version controlling the symlink itself
[20:42] <indyy> ilovefairuz: but I could remove the package linux-foo-bar I currently have installed right
[20:42] <indyy> ?
[20:42] <indyy> (my current kernel)
[20:42] <jel> Colloguy, dunno.  Maybe some property you could set in svn or git, but I'd be looking at hardlinks for that
[20:42] <ilovefairuz> indyy: you COULD but it's not recommend
[20:43] <indyy> ilovefairuz: ok
[20:43] <indyy> thanks
[20:43] <KE1HA> maco:  I just did a quick test. If you set no format on /home and for/root (/) /home is left in tack as was, and all fies on the root partition are new.
[20:43] <frankbro> And is there any drawback to using lets say 6 gig of ram on a 32 bit pae enabled kernel compared to a 64 bit installation ?
[20:43] <ilovefairuz> Colloguy: if you have symlinks in a repo, you're probably doing it wrong
[20:43] <ilovefairuz> Colloguy: what are you trying to accomplish ?
[20:43] <ratdog> i modified authorisations
[20:43] <Colloguy> jel: darn, would prefer not using hardlinks
[20:43] <sburjan`> Colloguy : what you need it for ?
[20:43] <basix][> does anyone know where to get a good proxy for irc?
[20:44] <KE1HA> maco:  so if he wants a new install basically, format /  and no format /home
[20:44] <Colloguy> ilovefairuz: I just have files in several folders that are organized by topic, that are already symlinked to a folder of symlinks
[20:44] <Migi32> ok on my RAID drive, it appears that everywhere that files have disappeared, the "date modified" is the same, and where they are overwritten with junk they're also the same date (but different from the first). What could've caused this?
[20:44] <sburjan`> you want to create a repo locally ?
[20:44] <blt23> ratdog:  what's wrong with the camera?
[20:44] <Colloguy> I want to put that folder of symlinks into version control
[20:45] <jel> Colloguy, there's a bug in git before version 1.6.1 that lets you do it :D  Also, mount bind is another option
[20:45] <maco> KE1HA: or from the live cd, manually delete /usr, /etc, and /var, then do a non-formatting reinstall
[20:45] <ratdog> blt2 remeber software sener will not auth
[20:45] <ratdog> c
[20:45] <dgc_> have anyone had this error "quantize-pvt.c: In function ‘quantize_xrpow’:" while compiling a program from source code ? it says something else about memory not addressable.
[20:45] <jel> Colloguy, oh, and are you aware that you can have submodules?
[20:45] <maco> KE1HA: the thing is that his /home isnt a separate partition
[20:45] <blt23> ratdog, why will it not authen?
[20:45] <Colloguy> jel: that's hundreds of mount --bind's
[20:45] <blt23> dgc_ nope
[20:45] <jel> Colloguy, ahh :)
[20:45] <dgc_> google says it is a pretty common error but i didn't find any solution
[20:46] <ilovefairuz> Colloguy: put the original folder in a repo, and make a shell script that checks out and rearranges them for you
[20:46] <KE1HA> maco:  Hmmmm, well now that's an issue. I'll have to test that to see how it reacts.
[20:46] <Colloguy> jel: I'll check out submodules ... i.e. hundreds of submodules, each for a plaintext file?
[20:46] <indyy> For PAE, I just have to install linux-generic-pae and linux-headers-generic-pae? Won't this ruin my current kernel (as in the nVidia proprietary card and other stuff)?
[20:46] <cablop> do ubuntu works well with the the mixed audio connection of some netbooks?
[20:46] <jel> Colloguy, you might be able to mount some pseudo-fs on top that would make them look like normal links...
[20:47] <cablop> does ubuntu work well with the the mixed audio connection of some netbooks?
[20:47] <maco> KE1HA: non-formatting reinstall to save /home has been an option for a few years now, but i dont know if anything is left behind. when devs mention this on ubuntu-devel mailing list, they said it as "doesnt delete /home" but they didnt mention whether everything *else* is deleted... and so now thats the question
[20:47] <indyy> And generally, is the PAE kernel unstable or does it have any issues?
[20:47] <Migi32> ok on my RAID drive, it appears that everywhere that files have disappeared, the "date modified" is the same, and where they are overwritten with junk they're also the same date (but different from the first). What could've caused this?
[20:47] <jel> Colloguy, no, I was expecting that your symlinks were to link in shared code from a central directory, which submodules would do better.  You're obviously not doing that if you've hundreds of symlinks
[20:47] <blt23> ratdog why does your camera have to authen???
[20:47] <majuk_> ilovefairuz! So, I see where it has added entries for the device every time I un/replug it. So say I want every WLAN device to always get 'wlan1'. How would I accomplish this?
[20:48] <ratdog> blt23 its the software cebter
[20:48] <ratdog> center
[20:48] <blt23> ratdog what about it?
[20:48] <ilovefairuz> majuk_: delete the relevant rules and it will reset back to 1
[20:48] <jel> Migi32, overwritten files (from corruption/deletion) don't necessarily have valid metadata
[20:48] <Colloguy> jel: I'll look into that pseudo-fs thing then :P
[20:48] <KE1HA> maco:  yes, maybe that's something we should added to testing, will have a play in VM and see how things come out.
[20:48] <majuk_> ilovefairuz! Sure, but I want any device ever plugged into it to get that
[20:49] <maco> KE1HA: the lazier thing to do would be to read the installer's code
[20:49] <jel> Migi32, ie, the metadata can be corrupted too.
[20:49] <majuk_> ilovefairuz! Assuming 1 device at a time, of course.
[20:49] <Migi32> jel, yes I know this. That's why I find it so weird that they all have the same metadata (at least their "date modified")
[20:49] <qwd> Hi I'm setting up Evolution on Ubuntu 10.04 for use with a Gmail account. It has all the right settings for connecting BUT it doesn't have any encryption chosen, why is this? Shouldn't it use encryption?
[20:49] <KE1HA> maco:  Tthat hurt my head just thinking about it :-)
[20:50] <jangell> any good providers out there of newer mysql-server packages for LucidLynx ?
[20:50] <indyy> Ooh, I have searched google and found that the PAE kernel is unstable and breaks stuff, is that true?
[20:50] <jel> Migi32, depends on what overwrote them, or recovered them.  If you write a raw photo, for instance, with a huge bank of one color, that's a lot of the same data being written to disk - a pattern.  If the dates look recent, rather than crazily random, most likely some recovery tool or recent access modified the dates
[20:50] <Migi32> jel, both dates are quite reasonable dates as to when the corruption could've happened. They're also fairly close together (10 days or so).
[20:51] <mneptok> jangell: considered MariaDB?
[20:51] <Migi32> (11 to be precise)
[20:51] <jangell> mneptok: Not really.  Don't know much about it.  I'm getting pissed off with RHEL 5 because it's so old and I've been having to use custom repos for newer packages.  I decided to look at the latest Ubuntu Server hoping for newer packages.  They're newer..but not as new as I'd like
[20:51] <jel> Migi32, maybe fsck "fixed" them on boot or something like that?  Dunno.
[20:52] <mneptok> jangell: http://askmonty.org/wiki/MariaDB:Download - http://kb.askmonty.org/v/mariadb-5149-release-notes
[20:52] <trijntje> I have my /boot partition on an external usb-stick, and I want to create a clone of this stick. dd is not an option because the second stick is not the exact same size. What can I do to duplicate my /boot to another stick?
[20:52] <Migi32> jel, ok I just discovered that the dates appear to be the same, but the time isn't. They're all different, but within the same 2-hour(ish) period
[20:52] <sburjan`> jangell : why do you need newer ? If they are not in the default repo, I think they're not stable enough for production
[20:53] <jel> Migi32, yep, sounds like some tool did work to fix them and took a while.
[20:53] <jangell> sburjan`: I'd have to talk to the DBA.  But for example I need a newer spamassassin to support the latest services that Spamhaus provides
[20:54] <Migi32> jel, do these kinds of tools run in the background or are they the "checking disks" that happen occasionally at boot?
[20:54] <Migi32> jel, the latter never took longer than 2 minutes here
[20:54] <jel> trijntje, something like ghost for linux (g4l) should do it
[20:54] <sburjan`> jangell : and the default from repo isn't new enough ?
[20:54] <pr0xyda3m0n> I'm having an issue when my netbook comes out of standby it prompts saying it didn't unlock correctly or something and asks for my password. I'd like to fix it so I can login without password prompts because family uses this laptop as well
[20:55] <gerritjan> Hallo
[20:55] <n0a1ias>  it was faster do do that
[20:55] <ilovefairuz> majuk_: try this: don't delete the rule, move it to the end of the file and change the ATTR{address}=="*"  .. but that would affect both wired and wireless devices
[20:55] <jel> Migi32, no, it would (should) be fsck or something even more obvious.
[20:55] <jangell> sburjan`: actaully i'm retarded and was incorrectly reading showpkg output.  I'm not a Ubuntu expert.
[20:55] <manoj_> hey friends i need to access my windows share from ubuntu can someone give me a link or help me out to solve the issue
[20:55] <jel> Migi32, really shouldn't be doing that on you at all, so I'm thinking it must be a bad distro modification or something you've done manually without realising.
[20:55] <trijntje> jel, does that work for disks that are not the same size?
[20:55] <majuk_> ilovefairuz! Hmmm... That's not *ideal*, but it would work past the initial setup of the devices. I'll give it a shot. Thanks.
[20:55] <jel> trijntje, I believe so
[20:56] <Mr-Woof> hi all
[20:56] <leuzedev> hi
[20:56] <sburjan`> jangell : not saying that defaults from the repo are bleeding edge, but I'm sure there isnt any app that need the latest mysql. at least not the latest minor version
[20:57] <Migi32> jel, impossible. My memory isn't perfect but fsck hasn't ever taken more than 2 minutes, I am sure of that. Could it have been the upgrade of 9.04 to 9.10? That happened around that date.
[20:57] <majuk_> ilovefairuz! Can I specify it by the driver used? I'm really not grasping the context of this rules file.
[20:57] <majuk_> I'm reading about it, but it's slow going
[20:57] <sburjan`> jangell : latest from mysql.com is 5.1.50. not sure what is the ubuntu repo version, but sure it's 5 or more. so it should work
[20:57] <ilovefairuz> majuk_: you can but do they all use the same driver?
[20:57] <jangell> sburjan`: 5.1.41
[20:57] <jel> Migi32, it was upgraded after the RAID failed?
[20:57] <majuk_> ilovefairuz! Yea.
[20:57] <sburjan`> jangell: so pretty new :)
[20:57] <ratdog> oop, certificate for key storeage was not in auto star, would that be a problem for authorizing ubutu software center?
[20:57] <jel> Migi32, an upgrade could definitely update the timestamps on lots of files, yes
[20:58] <ilovefairuz> majuk_: great, then:  DRIVER=="example"
[20:58] <majuk_> ilovefairuz! I'm dealing with these little dongles that have a high failure rate, so I'm trying to cut out the step where when I replace one I have to update the configs for it.
[20:58] <kimb> i want to learn
[20:58] <majuk_> Cooool.
[20:58] <manoj_> hey friends i need to access my windows share from ubuntu can someone give me a link or help me out to solve the issue
[20:58] <ilovefairuz> majuk_: and still with a * for address
[20:58] <jangell> sburjan`: I'd really like to get away from having ot build my own packages which is what I've bene forced into on RHEL5.  RHEL's last major release was March 2007 and several things missed that date
[20:58] <majuk_> ilovefairuz! Very cool. Thanks man.
[20:59] <leuzedev> google for smb manoj
[20:59] <kimb> hello
[20:59] <Migi32> jel, yes... now that you mention it I think in 9.04 my RAID showed up as 2 disks and 9.10 correctly recognized them as RAID. But how could it be possible that I never noticed that ALL my files were corrupt/missing until now? o.O
[20:59] <manoj_> i already have samba installed in my system
[20:59] <kimb> there is someone
[20:59] <sburjan`> jangell : with Ubuntu you don't have to manually build. You get the bin
[20:59] <leuzedev> then whats the issue
[21:00] <Stormx2> Hi. An app has crashed an is now unkillable (stuck in an I/O wait). I can't unmount the fs it's trying to read, even if I force ("device is busy"). However, the mountpoint is now empty and I can't remount ("Transport endpoint is not connected"). What do?
[21:00] <manoj_> but how do i access the folder via ubuntu
[21:00] <Stormx2> I'm sick of rebooting to fix this problem.
[21:00] <manoj_> when i try to seee the system present it does not retrieve the list
[21:01] <kimb> pff
[21:01] <leuzedev> wait, you need to connect to windows, or you need windows to connect to you
[21:01] <manoj_> need to  connect to windows share
[21:01] <jel> Migi32, I wonder if you RAID was warning you that it was degraded before, but has now completely failed and left you with one drive of bad data where you had two drives making up for each other before?  Dunno.  If you can, take a good look at each disk independently, in read-only mode, or using an image of the drive.
[21:02] <leuzedev> what version of windows?
[21:02] <sburjan`> jangell : just install it with apt and it's out of the box
[21:02] <axisys> anyone know of a gui based qr code generator pkg ?
[21:02] <jel> Migi32, what is your raid setup, and what's it's current state?
[21:02] <jangell> sburjan`: sure. that's fine and dandy until all the packages in the distribution get too old for what you must support
[21:03] <Jordan_U> Stormx2: Do you basically just want to be able to use that mountpoint for a different FS? If so you can do a lazy unmount, but you may not be able to remount the filesystem after that untill a reboot.
[21:03] <Colloguy> jel: I know, I'll just place my home dir under version control, but add only the files I want to track by doing e.g. "git add $(readlink textfilesdir)"
[21:03] <sburjan`> jangell : the you will enable the repos of the next Ubuntu version, or upgrade-dist to the new version of ubuntu
[21:04] <manoj__> need to  connect to windows share
[21:04] <family> hello all
[21:05] <leuzedev> what permissions are on your windows share?
[21:05] <manoj__> read only
[21:05] <gaurav> how do i share file on two ubuntu machine using samba
[21:05] <kimb> how
[21:05] <imfede> gaurang,  why samba and not sftp?
[21:05] <jel> Colloguy, ahh, is that what you're doing?  Have you considered doing it the other way around -- keeping full files in a version controlled subdir, and linking from it to where apps expect your files to be?
[21:05] <Migi32> jel, I didn't touch any setup or settings. They're now in /dev/mapper/some_numbers_Volume01 and when I restart I have to mount them manually (using sudo)
[21:05] <ilovefairuz> gaurav: why samba? use ssh, places > connect to
[21:06] <qwd> Hi I'm setting up Evolution on Ubuntu 10.04 for use with a Gmail account. It has all the right settings for connecting BUT it doesn't have any encryption chosen, why is this? Shouldn't it use encryption?
[21:06] <imfede> gaurang, with ssh you can't share files
[21:06] <panfist> i have a share mounted from an nfs server. files that i create on this share have a umask of 644. i'd like this to be 664. how do i change this?
[21:06] <Colloguy> jel: that's what I'm doing now, but I don't like it since I use the textfiledir as an index into my filesystem
[21:06] <Jordan_U> Stormx2: What is the contents of /proc/<PID of unkillable process>/wchan ?
[21:06] <ilovefairuz> imfede: yes you can, openssh implements sftp
[21:06] <gaurav> how i use ssh
[21:06] <gaurav> plz
[21:06] <gaurav> help me
[21:07] <leuzedev> ssh --help
[21:07] <ilovefairuz> gaurav: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[21:07] <Colloguy> jel: so given a link to a text file, I can get to the folder of supporting files by doing "reveal target folder"
[21:07] <axisys> i found qrencode .. but i am looking for a gui version
[21:07] <Colloguy> or whatever the OS's mechanism for showing where a symlink points
[21:07] <family> What is the command to automatically mount a directory for example: /media/Movies ?
[21:07] <trijntje> jel, thanks for your help, looking into it now
[21:07] <gaurav> installed ssh what to do next
[21:08] <ilovefairuz> gaurav: do this on each machine and then from the Places menu select "Connect to.." , then select SSH, and add the machine hostname and username and click connect
[21:08] <jel> trijntje, np, good luck :)
[21:08] <family> can anybody help me ?
[21:08] <ilovefairuz> family: add an entry in /etc/fstab
[21:08] <jel> Colloguy, http://www.rekk.de/bloggy/2008/versioning-symlinks-with-subversion-on-linux/
[21:09] <family> can u be more specific please
[21:09] <axisys> family: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[21:10] <jel> Colloguy, oh, never mind, you're trying to commit it as a NON-link, right?
[21:10] <josanton> hola a todos
[21:11] <panfist> i have a share mounted from an nfs server. files that i create on this share have a umask of 644. i'd like this to be 664. how do i change this?
[21:11] <Colloguy> jel: yeah, the thing that the link is pointed to
[21:11] <family> yeah i was there, it will take me couple of days till i find the solution reading all that , so i figured you might give me a quicky sort of :)
[21:11] <ratdog> update
[21:11] <ratdog> s
[21:11] <Migi32> jel, is it a bad indicator if I have to sudo-mount my drive every time?
[21:11] <axisys> family: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions#Editing Ubuntu's filesystem table
[21:11] <ilovefairuz> family: ok, pastebin: sudo fdisk -l
[21:12] <family> i did that
[21:12] <family> i did mount but the /dev
[21:12] <jel> Migi32, no, mount isn't a user-level command
[21:12] <ilovefairuz> family: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[21:12] <family> i want to mount /media but i m really lost
[21:12] <EbanSoul> is there a web site that lists the ubuntu terminal commands and there uses. like a manuel ?
[21:13] <EvilPhoenix> EbanSoul:  like... what do you mean?
[21:13] <Stormx2> Jordan_U: do_exit
[21:13] <family> ok i ll do that
[21:13] <family> then ?
[21:13] <EvilPhoenix> EbanSoul:  there's no direct MANUAL for EVERY command...
[21:13] <Stormx2> Jordan_U: I want the process to die
[21:13] <KE1HA> ilovefairuz:  nice, gotta love CLI :-)
[21:13] <nakhlawi> EbanSoul: maybe you mean a reference card or a cheat sheet?
[21:13] <EbanSoul> yes that would help alot
[21:14] <jel> EbanSoul, you can search for commands using keywords with the apropos command.  Otherwise, search with aptitude, read a dos to linux introduction, or just read general linux tips.  Debian's package a day blog is useful
[21:14] <EbanSoul> thanks
[21:14] <jel> EbanSoul, also, you can browse /usr/share/doc, run info and browse the manuals there, etc.
[21:15] <jel> EbanSoul, there used to be a great local webserver package for debian... dhelp I think, which give you a website you could search for any kind of documentation.  Very handy.
[21:16] <nakhlawi> EbanSoul: http://www.cheat-sheets.org/saved-copy/shellscripcheatsheet.pdf
[21:16] <jel> EbanSoul, there's probably an online version now
[21:16] <nakhlawi> EbanSoul: try that link, it has a good cheat sheet
[21:16] <family> ilovefayrouz what is pastebinit for ?
[21:16] <EbanSoul> thanks for all the info . have alot of reading ahead of me i see
[21:17] <thewanderer1> hello, how would I go about using a bluetooth headset for voice communication in Ubuntu?
[21:17] <nakhlawi> EbanSoul: another one: http://www.cheat-sheets.org/saved-copy/bash_ref.pdf
[21:18] <tortoise7> would anyone care to recommend  a Non-HP notebook utilizing AMD chips that would be happy running ubuntu?
[21:18] <jel> EbanSoul, dhelp is in ubuntu too it seems.  That'd be a great starting point.  Here's the debian page: http://packages.debian.org/sid/dhelp
[21:18] <n0a1ias> is there a channel for vnc?
[21:18] <zerothis> I'm having a problems with _some_ OpenGL apps crashing (that did not before). I'm on xubuntu karmic (because later versions do not work), using intel 2.4 drivers (because later versions...). <http://pastebin.com/T1dd68v7>
[21:18] <thewanderer1> tortoise7: bad luck, Intel is supported best.
[21:18] <jel> EbanSoul, install the suggested packages (info2www etc.) too
[21:18] <n0a1ias> in trying to put openvnc on ubuntu and im lost
[21:19] <ilovefairuz> EbanSoul: http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz i used this back in the day, must be outdated now ..
[21:19] <Migi32> does anyone know a place where I could have some (not much) free private ftp space?
[21:19] <ilovefairuz> family: to help you mount permanently
[21:19] <panfist> where do i set the umask for files created on an nfs share?
[21:19] <tortoise7> the wanderer1: how about a source for build it yourself components?
[21:19] <ilovefairuz> !tab | family
[21:19] <family> listening
[21:20] <Migi32> I like ubuntu 1 but I believe it doesn't support ftp
[21:20] <ilovefairuz> family: where's the pastebin?
[21:20] <jel> ilovefairuz, Somehow I always thought rute was in german, and never looked at it :D
[21:20] <gartral> Migi32: what makes you belive that?
[21:20] <thewanderer1> Migi32: why FTP? it's insecure as hell and OLD. use SFTP...
[21:21] <panfist> http is old, why use it?
[21:21] <jk_> Migi32, You can install proftpd and run a server; I've been doing it for years.
[21:21] <ilovefairuz> jel: it's great
[21:21] <family> ilovefairuz , tanks for your help but i m not sure what you mean, i m gonna read some more and come back
[21:21] <thewanderer1> panfist: because there's no alternative and it works reasonably well
[21:21] <jel> Migi32, FTP essentially started on Unix.  Linux supports it much better than windows,  but it's deprecated because it's insecure and not suitable for today's internet.  That's probably why you think it's unsupported
[21:21] <Migi32> jk_, I'd like to use this for online backup, so this is kind-of not a a solution :P
[21:21] <family> thanks for your response
[21:21] <ilovefairuz> family: did you execute the command i gave you? it should give you back a URL, paste it here
[21:22] <family> it gave me nothing, just blank
[21:22] <n0a1ias> is samba cli?
[21:22] <Migi32> no jel and gartral, you misread my question. I said "ubuntu 1" as in "ubuntu one", not ubuntu in general
[21:22] <thewanderer1> n0a1ias: samba is a daemon, not CLI
[21:23] <jk_> Migi32, In that case you can use gFTP as a client, if you have a server to store your backup files at. I've done backups over FTP and they work, although they are a bit slow.
[21:23] <n0a1ias> thewanderer1, what is daemon?
[21:23] <ilovefairuz> family: sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit .. give you blank ?
[21:23] <Migi32> jk_, hence my question "does anyone know a place where I could have some (not much) free private ftp space?"
[21:23] <jel> Migi32, setting up SFTP is easy.  Just install openssh-server, install scponly, add a new user with their home directory set to where you want them to have access to and /usr/bin/scponly as their shell, check file permissions, and you're done.  Best to change the ssh port too though
[21:23] <family> a second
[21:23] <jel> and make sure the user can't access other home dirs.
[21:24] <thewanderer1> n0a1ias: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daemon_(computer_software)
[21:24] <jel> Setting up chroot for more security isn't much harder
[21:24] <thewanderer1> jel: chroot is NOT a security measure and has never been
[21:24] <ilovefairuz> thewanderer1 +
[21:24] <m3lawren> i'm having trouble with a fresh mysql server install on lucid. running 'service mysql start' as root doesn't seem to get it going, as 'ps fuax | grep mysql' turns up nothing
[21:24] <jel> thewanderer1, right :)
[21:25] <amikrop> Hello. I fresh installed Lucid on a computer with, as it seems, two sound cards. lspci gives 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)  and  01:00.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation High Definition Audio Controller (rev a1)  The result is I have no sound. Any help please?
[21:25] <jel> thewanderer1, well, security in the sense of the user not feeling insecure when they see lots of scary directories then :)
[21:25] <ilovefairuz> m3lawren: no output from at all ?
[21:25] <family> ok this gave me http://pastebin.com/JY3T6srt
[21:25] <Migi32> ok jel, sorry I will never ever split up questions into 2 lines again. But the question was "does anyone know a place where I could have some (not much) free private ftp space?" followed by "I like ubuntu 1 but I believe it doesn't support ftp" and it appears everyone reacts only to the latter
[21:26] <m3lawren> ilovefairuz: if i run 'service mysql status' it gives me 'mysql start/running', however there are no mysql processes running
[21:26] <jel> Migi32, :D
[21:26] <seekwill> Ubuntu doesn't support ftp?!?!?!
[21:26] <Migi32> nooooooo
[21:26] <thewanderer1> seekwill: the software present in Ubuntu does support FTP
[21:26] <jel> lol
[21:26] <seekwill> Who uses FTP?!!?!
[21:26] <ilovefairuz> family: ok, next which partition would you like to automount ?
[21:26] <Migi32> the memory of this IRC channel is literally 20 lines XD
[21:26] <ilovefairuz> m3lawren: did you check the logs?
[21:26] <m3lawren> ilovefairuz: http://pastebin.com/8u4qeSXz <-- the log error
[21:26] <family> ok for exmaple i want :   /media/Movies
[21:26] <nakhlawi> Migi32: I think there are some free shell providers on the net which provide you some small space.
[21:27] <m3lawren> ilovefairuz: however i can't run mysql_upgrade because the server isn't running -.-
[21:27] <sdk_away> Hrm.. it amazes me that there is no way to have a login script that will open <some applications> in <some workspace> without globally restricting <some application> permanently to <some workspace>.  I.e. there's no way to open firefox on login in workspace 2 without permanently having it open in workspace2.
[21:27] <mgraf> question, anyone know how to put a computer into standby from the cli using ubuntu 10.04 and fluxbox?
[21:27] <sdk_away> If anyone knows how to do that, please let me know.
[21:27] <thewanderer1> mgraf: standby or S3 suspend?
[21:27] <ilovefairuz> family: but which partition is it on hard disk? mount it from places menu .. and in a terminal type: mount | pastebinit
[21:28] <mgraf> standby
[21:28] <jel> sdk_away, that's because the window manager should handle that.  I think KDE's window manager does it.  Not sure.
[21:28] <thewanderer1> mgraf: "shutdown -h now"
[21:28] <mgraf> ty
[21:28] <thewanderer1> mgraf: you would usually want to use sudo with that
[21:28] <jel> sdk, the tiling window managers often do stuff like that (tags)
[21:28] <urthmover> I have a short bash script that will put my monitor into powersave.  Is ther a way to associate ctrl+alt+L so that it runs this script automatically?
[21:28] <mgraf> kk, ty for the help
[21:28] <sdk> jel: indeed.. I misspoke myself.. s/Ubuntu/Gnome/
[21:28] <ilovefairuz> m3lawren: what error does this return: mysql -u root
[21:29] <m3lawren> ilovefairuz: 'ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)'
[21:29] <family> it gave me : http://pastebin.com/hVUzL4m7
[21:29] <VCoolio> urthmover: system > preferences > keyboard shortcuts, or install and use xbindkeys
[21:29] <sdk> jel: yes, but in Gnome, its permanent, once set to workspace2, always workspace2 unless remove rule or edit rule.
[21:30] <urthmover> VCoolio: awesome thanks
[21:30] <jel> urthmover, maybe check out autokey too
[21:30] <urthmover> ok thanks jel  I'll check there as well
[21:31] <thewanderer1> guys, what do I need in order to use a bluetooth headset as a mic and audio output? I want to use it the same way I use it with my cellphone.
[21:31] <sdk> I even went so far as to try mwctrl and devilspie, neithr of which work for different reasons.  mwctrl is jsut broken and devilspie does the same thing as 'places' in ccsm.
[21:31] <jel> sdk, if you can have it as a permanent setting in gnome, you can probably change the setting with gconftool or dbus as needed
[21:31] <VCoolio> sdk: messy workaround would be to use devilspie, make a startup script that runs it, open firefox on 2, then close devilspie
[21:31] <family> i wish they made it easier to know which directory on which harddisk
[21:32] <Shadowww> hi, is there any channel specific for ubuntu 10.10 bugs/problems?
[21:32] <well_laid_lawn> !maverick
[21:32] <RichardRaseley> Hello all, I am looking to use Ubuntu server as a router connecting two VLANs that I have on my network and was wondering if anyone could point me to any resources to get that set up? It seems that most of what I have seen online relates to using Ubuntu as a gateway / router but I just want to route traffic between two LANs.
[21:33] <jel> thewanderer1, not much :)  It'll appear as a new soundcard, and you just need your software to allow you the choice (or recognise ALSA (or pulse?) settings from the environment)
[21:33] <ilovefairuz> family: gksu gedit /etc/fstab
[21:33] <jel> thewanderer1, most of the voip apps let you specify the card you want to use
[21:33] <sdk> VCoolio: Hrm.. tha's an idea.. somethign run from bashrc that loads devilspie, lets it do it's thing then unloads devilspie.. wow, kludge indeed.
[21:33] <thewanderer1> jel: new soundcard in what? ALSA? Pulseaudio? and what profiles are supported besides A2DP? this thing is not A2DP...
[21:34] <ilovefairuz> family: and add this line to the end: /dev/sda5    /media/Movies    fuseblk      rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096,default_permissions
[21:34] <jel> thewanderer1, if it doesn't work with bluez-alsa, I've no idea, sorry
[21:35] <ilovefairuz> family: save, unmount it from type desktop and then in a terminal type: sudo mount -a
[21:35] <ilovefairuz> from the *
[21:35] <thewanderer1> jel: I have no idea if it works with bluez-alsa, I can buy alternative hardware if I know something that's supported really well
[21:36] <thewanderer1> the Bluez wiki is gone now, anyway...
[21:36] <sdk> Hrm.. thinking of just going back to E17.  Funny that E17 is now not as pretty but more functional than Gnome.,.
[21:36] <kimb> i need to  verify paypal
[21:36] <sdk> brb, loading E.
[21:36] <family> ok does this mount it on boot time ?
[21:37] <m3lawren> ilovefairuz: i managed to make it work, had to do a remove --purge on mysql-common and reinstalled everything from scratch
[21:37] <mcl0vin> where ubuntu keep tty config files please
[21:37] <family> can i use these line commands if i want to mount on application launcher?
[21:37] <korben> i need to print a list of files of a folder in a text file but i want the whole pathname and without the dot at the beginning using the find command can someone help me?
[21:38] <jimcooncat> setting up this laptop for autologin -- how do I avoid the keyring prompt?
[21:38] <spunk> how do I list all connected disks?
[21:38] <ilovefairuz> m3lawren: it looks like a hard disk data corruption issue, perhaps a power cut?
[21:39] <elite> Hello guys. I have quite some problems which I will explain.
[21:39] <jel> thewanderer1, wikipedia says bluez supports all core bluetooth protocols, so you should be good if the headset is remotely normal
[21:39] <m3lawren> ilovefairuz: not sure what caused it, the machine hasn't restarted since i installed mysql (did the inital one about 1hr ago)
[21:39] <RichardRaseley> Could someone give me advice on how to configure Ubuntu Server 10.04 is a simple LAN-LAN-LAN router?
[21:39] <m3lawren> ilovefairuz: but hey, it works now, so meh :)
[21:39] <elite> I have a Qosmio the F60 series
[21:39] <ilovefairuz> family: an "application launcher" like what? these are commands for mounting a disk partition
[21:39] <korben> i need to print a list of files of a folder in a text file but i want the whole pathname and without the dot at the beginning using the find command can someone help me?
[21:39] <ilovefairuz> elite: all on one line please
[21:40] <jel> RichardRaseley, set ipv4_forward to 1 in /etc/sysctl.conf, and setup three ethernet ports, each with IPs and routes on the lans.  It should handle the rest by default.
[21:41] <thewanderer1> jel, yeah, the other thing is, does ALSA support it :P
[21:41] <jel> RichardRaseley, net.ipv4.ip_forward even, just uncomment it, and re-run sysctl -p
[21:42] <jel> RichardRaseley, though a firewall would be very advisable
[21:42] <ilovefairuz> korben: find `pwd`
[21:42] <RichardRaseley> jel: So just make that the Ubuntu box can see machines on each of the LANs and then run those commands.
[21:42] <RichardRaseley> jel: Seems pretty straight forward.
[21:42] <jel> RichardRaseley, yep :)
[21:42] <Ardin> ok, anyone got a Radeon HD 4250? (laptop card.) how hard was it to deal with on ubuntu
[21:42] <jimcooncat> setting up this laptop for autologin -- how do I avoid the keyring prompt?
[21:42] <korben> [ilovefairuz]: no, u didnt understand me
[21:42] <RichardRaseley> jel: Only one of the NICs will have a default gateway on it, will it automatically forward traffic from the other two LANs out that gateway?
[21:42] <jel> RichardRaseley, and set the machines to use that linux box as their gateway to the other lans
[21:43] <jel> RichardRaseley, ie, give them routes through the router :)
[21:43] <ilovefairuz> korben: did you try the command?
[21:43] <family> ilovefairuz: hmm i see , i get it , does the terminal recognize after saving this command : in terminal : mount /media/Movies /home/family/Desktop
[21:43] <RichardRaseley> jel: Right, so the machines in each network will point towards the NIC of the router that exists in that network as their default gateway.
[21:43] <jel> RichardRaseley, yep, it'll just take packets from the lan, see they're supposed to go somewhere, and look up the normal routing tables to see where they should be sent
[21:43] <sdk> jimcooncat: Are you using teh keyring?  If not, under preferences startupa applications, you can disable it from startup.
[21:43] <jel> Yep
[21:44] <RichardRaseley> jel: But then what will determine which nic the router uses to forward traffic out to the internet?
[21:44] <korben> [ilovefairuz]: i want to make a file where i list all the files of a folder with full pathname without the dot at the beginning
[21:44] <jimcooncat> sdk -- yes, it's storing the wireless connection password, if I understand correctly
[21:44] <ilovefairuz> korben: find `pwd` > list.txt
[21:44] <korben> [ilovefairuz]: i once did it with find command but i don't remember how
[21:44] <sdk> jimcooncat: Hrm.. lemme think.
[21:45] <sdk> jimcooncat: well, try it and see, is the most straightforward answer I can give.  If it fails, we can move from there.
[21:46] <sain_> Can some one help trouble shoot my onboard microphone please?
[21:46] <ilovefairuz> family: you won't need to do this, it will be automatically mounted next reboot, make sure that /media/Movies exists after you umount: sudo mkdir /media/Movies
[21:46] <jimcooncat> sdk I'm guessing I have to tell seahorse the password so it automatically unlocks?
[21:46] <VCoolio> sdk: did you check the new efenniht theme in e17? then you'll realize your statement about gnome having more eyecandy was a big joke :D
[21:46] <family> ilovefairuz: does the terminal execute after what i have saved in fstat; this command  in terminal : mount /media/Movies /home/family/Desktop
[21:46] <elite> Okay, I have a Qosmio F60 series. I installed Ubuntu 9.04 via side by side installation. The problem is that if I suspend/restart, if I recover the PC from a sleep, the PC freezes on a black screen and the fans runs at full speed abruptly. Whereas in a restart, Ubuntu exists successfully, but again a black screen with the fan running at full speed. Additional info, when I first placed the live CD prior to the installation of Ubuntu (the 
[21:46] <elite> , the PC enters into the Windows boot loader, and shows me the option to only boot to windows 7. I pressed escape, and the same symptoms (black screen & fan at full speed). The only way to reuse the PC is via holding the shutdown button, then powering the PC again.
[21:46] <n0a1ias> is there a channel for wine?
[21:46] <ilovefairuz> family: you don't need to run any terminal commands, reboot your computer and you'll find it mounted
[21:46] <rww> n0a1ias: #winehq
[21:47] <family> i m just asking so i could use this command in launcher if i want
[21:47] <sain_> having trouble with onboard microphone. please help
[21:47] <jel> RichardRaseley, the routes on the machine, as normal.  Two of the three will probably just have local routes for  the lans its on, whereas one will be a default route to the net.  It might work automagically if you set up the main (internet) interface first.  Otherwise, just control it from /etc/network/interfaces
[21:47] <spunk> What are the pros and cons regarding xfs vs ext4?
[21:47] <sdk> VCoolio: I did a checkout day before yesteday, but for some reaason I couldn't get efenniht to load.  E kept telling me it was not a valid theme.
[21:47] <ilovefairuz> family: assume it's already mounted, no need to add it to the launcher
[21:47] <indy_> Hello, I have a fresh install of Lucid and I have no sound. Any help please?
[21:47] <sdk> But a couple of the other folks in #e were running it.
[21:48] <indy_> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)
[21:48] <indy_> 01:00.1 Audio device: nVidia Corporation High Definition Audio Controller (rev a1)
[21:48] <RichardRaseley> jel: OK, that makes sense. So on the router I will have 3 NICs, 2 of them will only have IP & SN Mask, one will have IP, SN Mask, and Default GW. That is a good start - I appreciate your help.
[21:48] <indy_> Is given by lspci
[21:48] <elite> ilovefairuz: I posted up my problem.
[21:48] <jel> spunk: ext4 is the standard and safe, xfs is fast and scary in powercuts/sudden crashes.  IMHO, XFS is not designed for desktops that don't have redundant PSUs, RAID, etc.
[21:48] <sdk> spunk: google is an excellent research tool.
[21:49] <syslq> skeptic: coz it indexes the internet ?
[21:49] <jel> RichardRaseley, yep, that should do it :)
[21:49] <ilovefairuz> elite: sleep/resume is often problematic especially if proprietary drivers are involved, i usually avoid it
[21:49] <family> ilovefairuz : yes it is indead, thanks alot for your help, you r a prince :)
[21:49] <spunk> jel, ok, thanks
[21:49] <ilovefairuz> indy_: pastebin: lshw
[21:49] <elite> Well then what about the restart?
[21:50] <family> ilovefairuz : is your name Mahmoud ?
[21:50] <VCoolio> sdk: they changed theme setup, you did a complete e checkout or just efenniht?
[21:50] <ilovefairuz> elite: pastebin: lshw -C display
[21:50] <ilovefairuz> !paste | elite
[21:50] <indy_> ilovefairuz, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/AE9fiqtq
[21:50] <jimcooncat> sdk -- maybe pam isn't talking to seahorse
[21:50] <ilovefairuz> !ot | family, no, it's not
[21:50] <zoZo> hey I am running a customized version of ubuntu 8.10 with kde3.5, after a dirty shutdown I now have all the apps trying to start back up every time I boot up(just an annoyance really) any ideas?
[21:51] <family> ok ubottu you bad bot
[21:51] <sebsebseb> !8.10 | zoZo
[21:51] <family> thanks again :)
[21:51] <SomeOneOrNoOne> hello
[21:51] <sebsebseb> zoZo: Ubuntu 8.10 :) and KDE 3 :)
[21:51] <family> bye bye and take care all
[21:52] <zoZo> ubottu> right I am running bt4
[21:52] <kimb> i need to upgrad from ubuntu 8.10 to 10.04
[21:52] <u_me> bye family
[21:52] <sdk> VCoolio: doing another co now, lets see what breaks.. :)
[21:52] <sebsebseb> zoZo: however 8.10 is no longer supported :(, and KDE 3 is sadly on the verge of dieing :(
[21:52] <u_me> i want to use ubuntu now on
[21:52] <u_me> :)
[21:52] <u_me> em gonna try today
[21:52] <indy_> ilovefairuz, did you receive the URL?
[21:52] <SomeOneOrNoOne> can you get marked as a proxy if you seed *legal* torrents?
[21:52] <u_me> any suggestions people
[21:52] <jel> zoZo, you should have a session file somewhere that you can delete/modify, or an option to save running programs in your session in the control panel
[21:52] <sdk> jimcooncat: sorry, got distracted by my own question..one sec.
[21:52] <jimcooncat> sdk np
[21:52] <jel> zoZo, (sorry, kde 3.5 was a long time ago)
[21:52] <SomeOneOrNoOne> ...like tor?
[21:52] <n0a1ias> kim__, the grub is switched from 1 to grub 2, this will cause complications...
[21:53] <sebsebseb> zoZo: some other distros still do KDE 3 though
[21:53] <ilovefairuz> indy_: yes, looking
[21:53] <kimb> but the problem is then i would to upgrad th 9. is only what i could
[21:53] <indy_> ilovefairuz, ok
[21:53] <Ardin> zoZo: your answer lies in your .kde folder i believe, although i cant remember what file it is.
[21:53] <SomeOneOrNoOne> anyone?
 like I admitted I am running Backtrack-Linux 4 Final built from 8.10
[21:53] <elite> ilovefairuz: I am currently on Windows.
[21:54] <SomeOneOrNoOne> BT is all I use
[21:54] <zoZo> jel: thanks
[21:54] <jel> SomeOneOrNoOne, "proxies" are not a bad thing.  Do you mean an illegal file sharer?  Yes, plenty of innocent people get accused
[21:54] <ilovefairuz> indy_:  sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-alsa-lucid-generic  .... and reboot
[21:54] <sebsebseb> zoZo: oh well in that case,  well 8.10 is off topic in here now support for it,  since that release is no longer supported, but Backtrack is even more off topic.  By the way backtrack isn't really a Desktop  OS, its for security testing and such
[21:54] <ilovefairuz> elite: then we can't help you much
[21:54] <sdk> jimcooncat: You did the libpam-keyring and edited gdm thing already?
[21:54] <SomeOneOrNoOne> No, i mean legal files and being banned from IRCS, like tor relays
[21:54] <sebsebseb> zoZo: and it would be insecure by default, because of how it runs root by default
[21:55] <sebsebseb> zoZo: so that it can be used for what it was designed for, security stuff
[21:55] <elite> ilovefairuz: I will reboot into Ubuntu. Please don't leave channel. :)
[21:55] <n0a1ias> how do i make my ubuntu an anonymous proxy server, like freeproxyserver.com?
[21:55] <sebsebseb> !backtrack | zoZo
[21:55] <indy_> ilovefairuz, Hmm, since I am interested in installing the PAE kernel, should I first install it and then issue your command?
[21:55] <jimcooncat> sdk -- no. I do see that libpam-gnome-keyring isn't installed
[21:55] <SomeOneOrNoOne> I'm seeding the Ubuntu alpha 10.10, so that's why I wanted to know. :)
 yeah i know but with some modofications and sudo it runs quite well and secure
[21:56] <jel> SomeOneOrNoOne, that probably happens because tor gets abused to send spam etc., and so the IPs running them get blacklisted on abuse trackers.
[21:56] <sdk> n0a1ias: introduce them, tell them someting they hvae in common and give them both drinks.. thats an excellent way to get thing to like one another.
[21:56] <ilovefairuz> indy_: for pae kernels add -pae, so it would be linux-backports-modules-alsa-lucid-generic-pae
[21:56] <n0a1ias> skd, ....
[21:56] <n0a1ias> any real advice out there?
[21:56] <SomeOneOrNoOne> jel: right, but does that SAME thing happen with torrents?
[21:56] <indy_> ilovefairuz, thanks, I did it and I am rebooting...
[21:56] <rww> SomeOneOrNoOne: no
[21:56] <ilovefairuz> indy_: install both if you're going to switch between the two kernels
[21:57] <SomeOneOrNoOne> rww: thanks both of you!
[21:57] <sdk> jimcooncat:  try this: http://johnny.chadda.se/article/unlock-the-gnome-keyring-upon-login/
[21:57] <well_laid_lawn> n0a1ias:  if noone here knows someone in #ubuntu-server might
[21:57] <sebsebseb> zoZo: maybe so
[21:57] <n0a1ias> well_laid_lawn, thanks
[21:57] <sgs1990> # join ubuntu-nl
[21:58] <ilovefairuz> sgs1990: /join
[21:58] <jimcooncat> thanks sdk, apparently I was on the right track
[21:58] <sgs1990> thanks ilovefairuz
[21:58] <raul__> hello
[21:59] <sgs1990> got it
 not perfectly but not exposed to the internet either
[21:59] <jel> n0a1ias, install squid and junkbuster, configure junkbuster to allow anonymous access and to filter personal information.  Note that this would be quite imperfect, and very stupid.  But it'd be a start.  You'd need a better privacy filter (like tor) and some sort of access control if you intend to have paying customers using it rather than random peadophiles and russian hackers.
[21:59] <ilovefairuz> !squid | n0a1ias
[21:59] <raul__> alquien de bolivia
[21:59] <sebsebseb> zoZo: oh right well thats ok then using unsupported software, if not on The Internet with it
[22:00] <raul__> partner from bolivia
[22:00] <n0a1ias> jel, i really only ont it for school
[22:01] <jel> n0a1ias, then you probably want an authenticating socks4 or socks5 to access remotely.  But this is abuse of your school network.
[22:01] <mickster04> n0a1ias: what you doing with your server then?
[22:01] <amikrop> ilovefairuz, I installed bothe the PAE and the normal and it didn't work :S
[22:01] <n0a1ias> does anyone have any experience with squid? and jel, would i install sock4 with squid?
[22:02] <amikrop> * both
[22:02] <elite999> ilovefairuz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/484656/
[22:02] <amikrop> ilovefairuz, maybe I should just get rid of the PAE kernel altogether, because it breaks my sound system?
[22:02] <ilovefairuz> amikrop: what didn't work, you don't see it as an option in grub ?
[22:02] <jel> n0a1ias, look at the dante-server package, for instance
[22:02] <n0a1ias> mickster04, vpn, samba, but thats complicated and i want the proxi serverby school so im compromising
[22:03] <amikrop> ilovefairuz, no, I don't have sound
[22:03] <amikrop> ilovefairuz, I installed the -pae package you told me, and I am using the pae kernel, but still not sound
[22:03] <mickster04> n0a1ias: well vpn is harder than proxy imo
[22:03] <ilovefairuz> amikrop: uname -a
[22:03] <jel> n0a1ias, also socks4-server, tsocks, etc.  apt-cache search socks will help too.
[22:03] <egertonm20> n0a1ias: I use squid as an inline proxy -- very good too
[22:03] <panfist> i was in here asking about umasks for nfs shares, and i guess the general answer is that the system umask applies to local and nfs file systems
[22:03] <panfist> in general, i want an nfs share where all users on my network can collaborate, regardless of group membership
[22:03] <amikrop> ilovefairuz, Linux optiplex 2.6.32-24-generic-pae #41-Ubuntu SMP Thu Aug 19 02:43:57 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
[22:04] <n0a1ias> mickster04, yea so im starting here and moving up later
[22:04] <panfist> but, i don't want to change the umask of each system that will compromise a user's own files
[22:04] <ilovefairuz> !sound | amikrop
[22:04] <panfist> so what's the correct (or a good) practice in ubuntu for creating a shared network space where any users are free to read/write each other's files, just in that one space and not in general?
[22:04] <ilovefairuz> amikrop: are the settings in the applet fine?
[22:05] <mickster04> n0a1ias: fairynuff... i'm not sure a proxy will work depending on how your school does internet access. it's likely that they have a white list rather than a black list, that is sites they allow rather than sites they don't, meaning your proxy may not work...
[22:05] <elite> ilovefairuz: Did you read my paste bin?
[22:05] <ilovefairuz> elite: sudo lshw -C
[22:05] <amikrop> ilovefairuz, yes, but now I have two devices in Hardware, one HDMI and one Inernal, which should I choose?
[22:06] <amikrop> ilovefairuz, And there are as options in Output
[22:06] <ilovefairuz> amikrop: try both and see what works?
[22:06] <n0a1ias> mickster04, i dont think so, they used to have the ubuntufourms, then i went there alot and they blocked it
[22:06] <mickster04> is it possible (in ububntu) to take two seperate hard drives and make them appear as one? or is that a hardware level thing
[22:07] <DoubleString> hey all
[22:07] <sdk> amikrop: The HDMI is only used if you've got somethig connected via HDMI, such as a TV.
[22:07] <mickster04> n0a1ias: hmmm then using your proxy alot wlil get that blocke too
[22:07] <ilovefairuz> mickster04: look up "clusterfs"
[22:07] <mickster04> ilovefairuz: cheers
[22:07] <amikrop> ilovefairuz, neither worked :S
[22:07] <elite> ilovefairuz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/484660/
[22:07] <amikrop> sdk, ok so I will disable it, but the other one does not work either
[22:08] <atul> am using Sony VIAO with Ubunut 10.04 with wireless and found Internet is very slow than windows any idea why is it so?
[22:08] <n0a1ias> yea, but ill use it for emergencies, like my sis is at tech, so if theres a shooting, or something like that happens
[22:08] <amikrop> ilovefairuz, my system is using the nVidia or the Intel audio card?
[22:08] <amikrop> how can i find out?
[22:08] <n0a1ias> plus i wont tell anyone about it
[22:09] <lax_> hey guys does anyone know how to successfully install vmware or virtualbox on ubuntu to run itunes?
[22:09] <mickster04> atul: you can check the speed of the connection by right clicking and checking the connection onfo
[22:09] <mickster04> info*
[22:09] <mickster04> lax_: get wine and run it thru there? research playonlinux
[22:09] <lax_> mickster84 wine doesnt work well with itunes
[22:09] <ilovefairuz> amikrop: i think it should be using the intel card
[22:10] <mickster04> n0a1ias: if your sister is in trouble im sure your school will tell you
[22:10] <n0a1ias> junkbuster is a .zip, will that work
[22:10] <amikrop> ilovefairuz, maybe that's the problem?
[22:10] <mickster04> !tab | lax_:
[22:10] <mickster04> lax_: have you tried playonlinux
[22:10] <lax_> mickster04, ok
[22:10] <lax_> mickster04, no
[22:10] <n0a1ias> mickster04, prolly not, its public.
[22:10] <mickster04> lax_: it can set up wine properly for various apps
[22:11] <mickster04> n0a1ias: no they would
[22:11] <lax_> mickster04, even the latest version of iTunes?
[22:11] <ilovefairuz> mickster04: also check http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceph
[22:11] <jimcooncat> sdk - I had forgotten, had to enable wireless connection for all users. Not an obvious fix, for sure.
[22:11] <mickster04> lax_: what version of wine are you using
[22:11] <n0a1ias> maby
[22:11] <n0a1ias> jel, is it cool to pm you?
[22:11] <lax_> mickster04, im using the latest stable versio
[22:11] <mickster04> lax_: that 1.3 isnt it?
[22:11] <elite> ilovefairuz: please check my latest paste bin. I am sorry for repeating the same post, but I guess the huge load of posters may distract you.
[22:11] <n0a1ias> that way i can keep your advice straight
[22:11] <jel> n0a1ias, you can install junkbuster (sorry, it's called privoxy now) with ubuntu's package manager.  Might need to enable universe repositories
[22:11] <lax_> mickster04, yes
[22:12] <ilovefairuz> amikrop: what's selected in the output tab?
[22:12] <amikrop> ilovefairuz, http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/hb4RaNpW
[22:12] <ilovefairuz> elite: sorry, my fault, it's sudo lshw -C display
[22:12] <jel> n0a1ias, normally I wouldn't mind much, but I'm leaving now anyway.  Few things to finish up for tomorrow.
[22:12] <n0a1ias> its cool
[22:12] <amikrop> ilovefairuz, internal audio analog stereo
[22:12] <n0a1ias> good luck
[22:13] <jimcooncat> where to edit grub to reduce timeout from 9 seconds to 2?
[22:13] <n0a1ias> mickster04, what about you? you up for pm?
[22:13] <sdk> jimcooncat: congrats man..  :)
[22:13] <elite> ilovefairuz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/484662/
[22:13] <ilovefairuz> elite: it basically says your nvidia card is not used!
[22:14] <mickster04> n0a1ias: what for? i won't be much specific help for you sorry...
[22:14] <sdk> VCoolio: Why is it so viscerally pleasing to see E build without errors?  Oh, wait, I know why.. because it's so rare.  :->
[22:14] <Tourist> Muh sound won work, gimme codez.
[22:14] <n0a1ias> mickster04, o nm then hah
[22:14] <ilovefairuz> elite: sudo lshw  ... the whole thing
[22:14] <atul> mickster04, thanks, its showing 54 Mb/s
[22:14] <ilovefairuz> amikrop: and connector? try the last one
[22:15] <H1n1> $ rhythmbox -d (22:11:52) [0x99a0028] [rb_debug_init_match] rb-debug.c:213: Debugging enabled (22:11:52) [0x99a0028] [main] main.c:177: initializing Rhythmbox 0.12.8 (22:11:52) [0x99a0028] [rb_threads_init] rb-util.c:482: GMutex isn't recursive (22:11:52) [0x99a0028] [main] main.c:185: going to create DBus object (22:11:52) [0x99a0028] [main] main.c:352: THE END
[22:15] <jimcooncat> I think I found it: /etc/default/grub, GRUB_TIMEOUT=10 -- is that right?
[22:15] <mickster04> atul: then maybe it's the browser? which are you using
[22:15] <H1n1> whats wrong with rhythmbox?
[22:15] <atul> mickster04, oh is it, am using firefox
[22:15] <amikrop> ilovefairuz, i ve tried both analog speakers and analog output with no luck
[22:15] <amikrop> ilovefairuz, that's strange, I never had problems with sound in ubuntu, and that's a brand new computer
[22:16] <mickster04> atul: yeah I find chrome rather fast..but thats possibly opinion
[22:16] <jimcooncat> nope, that didn't work
[22:16] <amikrop> ilovefairuz, btw, how can I remove PAE completely? removing just the packages didn't work
[22:16] <elite> ilovefairuz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/484664/
[22:16] <Sunderphon> is it possible to take a screenshot of your screensaver?
[22:16] <jimcooncat> do I have to run some grub update program after editing /etc/defaults/grub?
[22:17] <ilovefairuz> amikrop: i don't think it's the issue but you could press shift at reboot and select a non pae kernel
[22:17] <amikrop> ilovefairuz, i ll try that
[22:17] <n0a1ias> who was the one who uses squid?
[22:18] <ilovefairuz> elite: lspci
[22:19] <jimcooncat> got my grub working, never mind
[22:19] <n0a1ias> egertonm20, are you still here?
[22:20] <elite> ilovefairuz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/484666/
[22:22] <ilovefairuz> elite: in system > administration > hardware drivers, do you see an entry for the card?
[22:22] <indy__> ilovefairuz, I am amikrop (the guy with the sound problem). pressing shift during boot did not let me choose kernel
[22:22] <elite> ilovefairuz: No
[22:22] <scottmaccal> hello all
[22:22] <indy__> ilovefairuz, I feel very frustrated, as a home system without sound is almost unusable
[22:23] <indy__> ilovefairuz, I mean, I have to fix it :/
[22:23] <ilovefairuz> indy__: you're supposed to hold down shift and wait for the menu to appear
[22:24] <TenPhil> how do I undo this: http://maketecheasier.com/unlock-gnome-panel-in-ubuntu-netbook-edition-une/2010/04/25? so I get the normal unity desktop?
[22:24] <indy__> ilovefairuz, btw, when I run audacious with an mp3, and got to sound preferences, in the Applications tab I can see audacious using the system. is that of any help?
[22:24] <indy__> s/got/go
[22:25] <lax_> mickster04, any ideas how to get itues 9.2.1 on ubuntu?
[22:25] <pyrophelia> I need some hep understanding file system clustering.  Lets say I have 4 servers all with 1 TB of storage all connected to a 1Gbps ethernet connection.  I cluster them to for a 4TB cluster.  when a client access the server will they be reading writting to all of the servers at once like a raid 0, or is only 1 active at a time?
[22:25] <ilovefairuz> indy__: does it produce sound?
[22:26] <well_laid_lawn> !itunes | lax_
[22:26] <WinstonSmith> hi ppl :) jusy installed hamachi beta 2.11 on 8.04 and it gets stuck on "logging in..."
[22:26] <lax_> well_laid_lawn, i know but i need itunes to sync my iphone and add songs etc
[22:26] <lax_> should i use virutalbox or vmware to get itunes?
[22:26] <WinstonSmith> lax_, use rythmbox
[22:26] <elite> ilovefairuz: What should I do?
[22:27] <lax_> rythmbox can add songs to my iphone?
[22:27] <WinstonSmith> lax_, yes
[22:27] <indy__> ilovefairuz, no
[22:27] <mkanyicy> lax_, yes
[22:27] <debnix> say my name please?  color check
[22:27] <well_laid_lawn> debnix:
[22:27] <Milez> where'd digg.com's video section go ?
[22:27] <indy__> ilovefairuz, let me try my non pae kernel...
[22:28] <sdk> VCoolio: You're not kidding.. efenniht is indeed gorgeous, talk about subtle.  Very dark tho.. just a shade lighter.. may hafta play around a bit.
[22:28] <ilovefairuz> elite: it's the card, there are a few forum threads and i'm trying to grok them, but i honestly despise nvidia and proprietary stuff in general
[22:30] <VCoolio> sdk: I'm into dark right now, so I don't mind; haven't checked if it works with much pics, would be easy to edit; .edc files are a pain if you ask me
[22:30] <jimcooncat> just to know, what good graphics card does not need proprietary drivers?
[22:30] <ubuntu> hello, whats thecommmand to get into the grub2 boot menu? I held down shift and it did nothing. I recompiled my kernel and it did not boot I just get a ban screen after bios.
[22:30] <TenPhil> can someone please give me a hint on how to restore the unity interface?
[22:30] <indy__> ilovefairuz, neither the nonPAE worked (no sound)
[22:30] <mickster04> !unity
[22:30] <ilovefairuz> indy__: you didn't install the -generic only package
[22:30] <ubuntu> hello, whats thecommmand to get into the grub2 boot menu? I held down shift and it did nothing. I recompiled my kernel and it did not boot I just get a blank screen after bios. :(
[22:31] <indy__> ilovefairuz, OK, I will boot from an Ubuntu CD, won't change anything and try to produce a sound
[22:31] <TiK_> !grub2
[22:31] <indy__> ilovefairuz, what's the easiest way to produce a sound? download an .ogg?
[22:31] <WinstonSmith> just installed hamachi beta 2.11 on 8.04 and it gets stuck on "logging in..."  in the log it stops on "resolving hamachi-dc.logmein-gateway.com" which is crap because i can ping that adress
[22:31] <ilovefairuz> indy__: won't likely help because you need to install the backported alsa drivers
[22:31] <indy__> ilovefairuz, the -generic only package for what?
[22:32] <ilovefairuz> indy__: sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-alsa-lucid-generic
[22:32] <sdk> VCoolio: Heh, you and I both.  I think the pinnacle of beauty was still AbsolutE-Blue in 16.  Uber clean, simple, low profile.. spartan on the outside, thermonuclear on the inside.
[22:32] <indy__> ilovefairuz, i installed the -ape too
[22:32] <janicko> is there any possible way to get webcam working on flash site?
[22:32] <lahwran> sdk, what are you talking about? I am interested if it has to do with themes
[22:32] <indy__> ilovefairuz, but since now I am on non-pae and still no sound, that wouldn't matter
[22:32] <ilovefairuz> indy__: for non pae kernels, you need the one without -pae
[22:32] <sdk> lahwran: enlightenment.org
[22:32] <TiK_> hello, whats thecommmand to get into the grub2 boot menu? I held down shift and it did nothing. I recompiled my kernel and it did not boot I just get a blank screen after bios. :(
[22:33] <indy__> ilovefairuz, I booted the non pae and still no sound, so that isn't the matter :S
[22:33] <sdk> lahwran: It's an entirely different way of approaching UIs.
[22:33] <lahwran> TiK, isn't it escape? it was in grub legacy
[22:33] <ilovefairuz> indy__: you don't have the NON-pae drivers installed
[22:33] <TiK_> lahwran: grub2
[22:33] <TiK_> :(
[22:33] <pushpop> can someone point me to a howto on how to install perl on ubuntu 64
[22:33] <indy__> ilovefairuz, but if the live CD plays sound, won't that help us get what's going on?
[22:33] <lahwran> TiK_, I figured.
[22:33] <indy__> ilovefairuz, I have both drivers installed
[22:34] <lahwran> sdk, I've used it. I had no idea how to do anything and had to ctrl+alt+backspace to logout ..
[22:34] <TiK_> pushpop: apt-cache search pearl
[22:34] <ilovefairuz> indy__: you installed both packages?
[22:34] <indy__> yes
[22:34] <ilovefairuz> indy__: together or just now?
[22:34] <indy__> ilovefairuz, right now, both are installed
[22:34] <trollboy> is it normal for the installer to hang at 5% on creating the ext4 file system?
[22:34] <lahwran> pushpop, make that apt-cache search perl
[22:34] <ilovefairuz> indy__: reboot
[22:34] <sdk> pushpop: it is installed by default, iirc.. is on mine.
[22:34] <indy__> ilovefairuz, I have done it
[22:35] <lahwran> TiK_, pearl != perl
[22:35] <indy__> ilovefairuz, with both installed, but no sound
[22:35] <trollboy> I still have disk activity light, but the onscreen progress bar is not moving
[22:35] <pushpop> sdk where is the perl root then?
[22:35] <sdk> lahwran: trick is to click on the desktop.  :)
[22:35] <trollboy> oh never mind 15% and climbing
[22:35] <lahwran> sdk, interesting ...
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> trollboy: if you open a terminal and run:
[22:35] <TenPhil> anybody got the heart to help me out?
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> trollboy: top
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> trollboy: you can see the running processes. My suggestion is to let it do its thing
[22:35] <sdk> pushpop: all I ever use perl for is one liners..
[22:36] <ilovefairuz> indy__: check alsamixer in a terminal, all maxed up and unmuted ?
[22:36] <olskolirc> what is the format for 12 hour time please?
[22:36] <Milez> that's not going to impress any ladies...
[22:36] <TiK_> lahwran: i ment perl.. the programming language
[22:36] <lahwran> TiK_, right. I figured.
[22:36] <jclark5093> so will a 10.04 alternate install (the Debian ncurses installer) be the same if I don't add any extra pkgs as a basic Debian?  i.e. **Will I have ROOT? or will it still be rootless ubuntu??***
[22:36] <sdk> lahwran: the packages are REALLY old, btw, we're talking about the CVS build.  If you want to see how E works, get an ELIVE cd.
[22:36] <TiK_> lahwran: apt-cache search perl
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> jclark5093: you won't have root, but the first user you make will have sudo rights. Ubuntu neither condones nor supports having root
[22:37] <maco> jclark5093: it'll be a normal ubuntu install
[22:37] <jimcooncat> ok, here's a strange deal. I have firefox with an url loaded as a startup application. When I close firefox then reboot, fine. But when I just reboot without closing, it opens two tabs of the url
[22:37] <maco> jclark5093: if you want debian, use debian
[22:37] <lahwran> sdk, oh. I see.
[22:37] <indy__> ilovefairuz, yes
[22:37] <sdk> lahwran: actually there's a video.. one sec..
[22:37] <scooter> New to linux is there a way to make a memory stick part of the memory with the 512 in the computer
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> scooter: you can use as swap space
[22:37] <indy__> ilovefairuz, if i boot the lucid live cd and see that I have sound, or that I don't have sound, won't we make some conclusions?
[22:37] <maco> scooter: you can make it be treated as swap, sure
[22:37] <winmutt> how do i get 3 monitors with 2 nvidia cards working?
[22:37] <lahwran> jclark5093, these guys don't like you having root, but I'll help you a bit if you want
[22:38] <edbian> scooter, O man like that silly option in windows 7?
[22:38] <ilovefairuz> indy__: aren't you running lucid?
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> winmutt: install the proprietary driver, you can use nvidia-settings to configure it as you wish
[22:38] <jpds> sdk: Most of your stuff must be really big one lines...
[22:38] <edbian> scooter, You might be able to mount it as swap space (which is the same thing)
[22:38] <indy__> ilovefairuz, yes, I mean boot a live CD?
[22:38] <jclark5093> maco: can't get netinstaller to work right, and I'm not downloading 6 DVDs :-/
[22:38]  * maco would contend that if you cant figure out how to set a root password, you probably shouldn't have one
[22:38] <ilovefairuz> indy__: i don't think it would, but you could try
[22:38] <winmutt> ive got it to where the third monitor on the second card comes up but the kde desktop does not stretch across it
[22:38] <lahwran> jclark5093, if you want a more selective install of ubuntu, download and burn the server 32bit installer. it's super minimalistic
[22:38] <scooter> how do do that in command line
[22:38] <indy__> ilovefairuz, ok
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> scooter: ram is ridiculously cheap now, why not grab some, you can get a 1Gb stick for the price of a pack of smokes
[22:39] <winmutt> ActionParsnip: whenever xinerama is turned on X will not start
[22:39] <jclark5093> lahwran: what, make a user called "root" and pretend it's a root act? (lol)
[22:39] <rww> and if you can figure out how to set a root password, you still shouldn't have one.
[22:39] <edbian> scooter, If you're talking to me please begin the line with my name like I'm doing for you.
[22:39] <maco> ActionParsnip: you smoke expensive cigs!
[22:39] <jimcooncat> So if I reboot, it kills firefox instead of closing it first?
[22:39] <edbian> scooter, mount /swap /dev/<device>
[22:39] <Cale> Hey, my new machine doesn't have a CD/DVD drive, and I don't have a USB Flash drive handy, but I do have an external USB drive. Is there an easy way to put the Ubuntu LiveCD/Installer on the external HDD and use that to install Ubuntu on the internal drive in my new machine?
[22:39] <edbian> scooter, Do you know how to give the device name?
[22:39] <lahwran> jclark5093, all linux systems have a root account, ubuntu included. ubuntu just disables the root account; it's still very much there
[22:39] <maco> jimcooncat: yep, and then your tabs get restored! yay!
[22:39] <ZykoticK9> winmutt, TwinView is nvidia's version of xinerama
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> maco: only the best but its just to highlight the cheapness
[22:39] <janicko> so is there any solution to get working webcam for flash sites? Any at all?
[22:39] <lahwran> jclark5093, beware, what I'm telling you will make it easier for you to break your system
[22:39] <winmutt> ZykoticK9: yes but i need to go across three monitors
[22:40] <jimcooncat> maco, is there a way I can load just one of the url I want at startup?
[22:40] <maco> ActionParsnip: well ive never seen $5 for 1GB of RAM
[22:40] <scooter> I think not sure though
[22:40] <winmutt> there is an optin in nvidia-settings to turn on xinerama
[22:40] <jclark5093> lahwran: I am aware of root dangers ;-) (or is this like a hack that will kill my ubuntu?)
[22:40] <maco> jclark5093: 6 DVDs?? um installing Debian takes 1 CD
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> scooter: you will need to make a partition on the device and format it to swapfs. You can then run: sudo blkid   and get its UUID. You can then add the device in /etc/fstab and the OS will use it as swap
[22:40] <lahwran> jclark5093, so do you have a ubuntu system already? no it's just simply adding a password to the root account
[22:40] <maco> jclark5093: the rest of the CDs/DVDs is just for if you want to have offline copies of the entire repositories
[22:41] <lahwran> jclark5093, actually, it is possible to make CDs of the ubuntu repositories if you want to
[22:41] <maco> jimcooncat: if you run:  firefox http://yahoo.com            <--- for example, thatd just open yahoo.com
[22:41] <d3vic3> janicko: yep, i have a solution handy, just 1 minute plz :)
[22:41] <lahwran> jclark5093, but let's stay on task, shall we? do you have a ubuntu system you want root added to?
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> maco: still pretty cheap, could probably find some on t'ebay
[22:41] <janicko> d3vic3: cool
[22:41] <jimcooncat> maco: I have firefox with an url loaded as a startup application. When I close firefox then reboot, fine. But when I just reboot without closing, it opens two tabs of the url
[22:42] <jclark5093> lahwran: yes. 10.04 32 bit (the one that came in the mail :-D)
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> jimcooncat: do you tell gnome to remember the open apps?
[22:42] <maco> jimcooncat: oh....umm lemme check firefox's command line options
[22:42] <d3vic3> janicko: go to this page and there you can choose which sites can access your cam -> http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/settings_manager06.html
[22:42] <lahwran> jclark5093, OK then, open a terminal and run 'sudo passwd'. this will let you change the root password. it's that easy.
[22:42] <ZykoticK9> lahwran, jclark5093 if you're gonna give directions on setting root password, could you move it to PM please.  See !noroot factoid.  Too late...
[22:42] <jimcooncat> ActionParsnip: No, unless it's somewhere else than I'm used to. This is a spanking new install of lucid
[22:43] <scooter> I will give it a try not that great in command line it least I know it can be done.
[22:43] <jclark5093> lahwran: then I can Ctrl+Alt+F6 and log in as root?
[22:43] <lahwran> ZykoticK9, am I not allowed to do it in here because it's unofficial for ubuntu?
[22:43] <ZykoticK9> !noroot | lahwran
[22:43] <tanknspank> Can someone tell me why my laptop freezes while compiling a rom for an android phone? I get to the part where it is syncing the tree and checking files and around there it freezes.
[22:43] <jclark5093> ZykoticK9: oops.  Sowwy :-/
[22:43] <lahwran> ZykoticK9, >.> I know that. that's why I'm helping him and you're not.
[22:44]  * lahwran takes it to a PM
[22:44] <maco> jimcooncat: dont know. i dont see a command line flag for that
[22:44] <ilovefairuz> elite: http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1470822
[22:44] <janicko> d3vic3: ok, but taht doesn't work with me either, anythink else?
[22:44] <n0a1ias> anybody ever use squid proxy?
[22:44] <rww> I liked the old phrasing of !noroot. "Don't suggest a root password unless you're going to be here 24/7 to help with problems that result."
[22:45] <ZykoticK9> rww, i guess that version wasn't "official sounding" enough - but it's pretty good i must say - i never saw it :(
[22:45] <jimcooncat> maco, me neither. maybe I have to play with profiles, or find a way to actually close firefox nicely on logout
[22:46] <d3vic3> janicko: what's your cam?
[22:46] <maco> jimcooncat: maybe something in about:config to turn off tab restore?
[22:46] <janicko> d3vic3: its technika, don't know the model
[22:46] <gogeta> whers my money
[22:47] <gogeta> lol
[22:48] <maco> jimcooncat: edit -> preferences -> when firefox starts:   is it set to "show my home page" or "show my windows and tabs from last time"?
[22:48] <maco> jimcooncat: oh thats something you could do too
[22:48] <ilovefairuz> jimcooncat: it's the session restore feature
[22:48] <jimcooncat> maco, just home page
[22:48] <ilovefairuz> jimcooncat: turn it off in edit > preferences
[22:48] <d3vic3> janicko: external i think!
[22:48] <maco> jimcooncat: just set that url as your homepage and then dont set it to automatically open a url
[22:49] <janicko> d3vic3: yes, external
[22:49] <jimcooncat> ilovefairuz: I don't see how to turn that off
[22:49] <jimcooncat> maco, I'll try that
[22:49] <d3vic3> janicko: what "lsusb" gives?
[22:50] <d3vic3> janicko: use http://paste.ubuntu.com/ to post results
[22:50] <janicko> d3vic3: http://pastebin.com/DkqNnfR7
[22:50] <snow_usa> fot
[22:51] <indy__> ilovefairuz, OK, two things: 1) I booted the live CD and tried to play an example file with Totem (without changing anything) and didn't work (then tried some things from sound preferences but still nothing). 2) I plugged the wire into my laptop (with luicd as well, upgraded from previous ubuntu version) and it worked, which means the wires of speakers and subwoofer are connected correctly
[22:51] <melik> anyone here use crunchbang?
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> melik: crunchbang is offtopic here
[22:51] <indy__> ilovefairuz, so, Lucid can't handle the hardware of my computer, or my new computer just has a broken sound system
[22:52] <ilovefairuz> jimcooncat: when you reboot without closing, firefox may think it crashed so when it starts it reopens the tabs that were open in addition to the one passed on the command line... can't find in preferences.. it's in about:config ... browser.sessionstore.resume_from_crash
[22:52] <dan_s> hi. I think I have multiple partitions of ubuntu on my system. The wrong one boots up and all my files are on the other one Help?
[22:52] <well_laid_lawn> melik:  there is #crunchbang
[22:52] <melik> yeah i know well_laid_lawn, that channel is dead :(
[22:53] <ZykoticK9> melik, sounds like a good reason to use Ubuntu over Cruchbang...
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> melik: doesn't matter, this is ubuntu support only, #ubuntu-offtopic MAY indulge you but i wouldn't hold your breath
[22:53] <n0a1ias> anybody ever use squid proxy?
[22:53] <jimcooncat> ilovefairuz, maco: thanks, set the home page and took out the url from the startup line -- now works the way I need it to.
[22:53] <TiK> ok shift got me into the grub2 menu thank god
[22:53] <d3vic3> janicko: do you get an image using cheese?
[22:53] <jimcooncat> I suppose that if I wanted the home page as something else, it would still be an issue
[22:53] <ilovefairuz> indy__: your laptop is probably has different hardware
[22:54] <janicko> d3vic3: i do, even on skype
[22:54] <ilovefairuz> indy__: i think you should tinker more with the volume applet
[22:55] <jclark5093> melik: find my pm?
[22:56] <d3vic3> janicko: when you open firefox addons manager window and go to plugins tab, what version of flash player installed if available?
[22:56] <jclark5093> How can I use a Live CD to check an hdd for bad blocks? (or other hardware failures on a new drive)
[22:56] <TiK> what is he trying to do with his cam?
[22:56] <TiK> im an expert on cams
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> jclark5093: sure, its a great way as the partitions will all be unmounted
[22:57] <TiK> jclark5093: is the hdd SMART ?
[22:57] <n0a1ias> anybody ever use squid proxy?
[22:57] <TiK> jclark5093: I use parted magic myself.. wrks great
[22:57] <TiK> jclark5093: or seatools
[22:57] <jclark5093> It's a WD Caviar Green 1TB OEM just got it, so i think it's S.M.A.R.T....
[22:58] <TiK> jclark5093: I recommend parted magic it uses openbox and loads into ram and is built for that sort of thing
[22:58] <ilovefairuz> jclark5093: check smart status is palimpsest
[22:58] <janicko>  d3vic3: shockwave flash
[22:58] <ilovefairuz> jclark5093: in *
[22:58] <LinuxGuy2009> Hey guys I figured out how to install the Nvidia 256.44 non-free driver by simply removing the xserver-xorg-video-nouveau package from the system first. I installed nvidia-settings package but it doesnt show a launcher for it in the menu. Why? Maybe I need to reset the panel or something simple like that?
[22:58] <TiK> janicko: 10something? and what are you trying to do?
[22:59] <ruiserra> ruiserra
[22:59] <d3vic3> janicko: which version?
[22:59] <janicko> d3vic3: 10.1 r 53
[23:00] <TiK> janicko: what are you trying to do with yor cam?
[23:00] <TiK> janicko: I know all
[23:00] <janicko> TiK: get webcam work on flash sites
[23:00] <ZykoticK9> LinuxGuy2009, "killall gnome-panel" will refresh the menu
[23:00] <smokie> connect irc.rizon.net
[23:00] <d3vic3> janicko: even with 10.1 r82 i get some flash crashes so i think it's better to upgrade
[23:00] <TiK> janicko: did you set the cam for always allow instead of ask in the flash settings manager?
[23:00] <LinuxGuy2009> ZykoticK9: K Ill try that.
[23:01] <janicko> TiK: yep
[23:01] <TiK> janicko: what site my cam works on stickam and tinychat
[23:01] <LinuxGuy2009> ZykoticK9: Woohoo perfect thanks.
[23:01] <outer_space> how can I remote into windows 7 home premium from ubuntu?
[23:01] <d3vic3> janicko: check this page https://www.mozilla.com/en-US/plugincheck/
[23:02] <janicko> TiK: any site
[23:02] <ZykoticK9> outer_space, rdesktop?
[23:02] <dan_s> how do I check for partitions on a windows/ubuntu system. I think I have two linux partitions and I want to only mount one...
[23:02] <TiK> janicko: I use flash 10.1.82
[23:02] <rch88873> hi dan!
[23:02] <ZykoticK9> dan_s, "sudo fdisk -l" will list all partitions
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> dan_s: sudo parted -l
[23:03] <ElectricXtn> anybody have tips on getting sound working for Realtek HD on-board audio?
[23:03] <ElectricXtn> Everything else is working great, but I still have no sound :-(
[23:04] <ZykoticK9> ActionParsnip, your parted version takes a long time on my system
[23:04] <d3vic3> janicko: i have to go, good luck and keep trying with the adobe flash manager cause it solved mine :)
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> ZykoticK9: my parted version?
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> didn't know i had one?
[23:04] <ZykoticK9> ActionParsnip, "sudo parted -l" vs "sudo fdisk -l"
[23:05] <outer_space> windows 7 premium has remote desktop disabled, I have to install something to make it work
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> ZykoticK9: ahh, i see. parted tends to show the filesystem as ext3 / ext4 etc rather than just "linux"
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> outer_space: ask in ##windows for windows support
[23:06] <kill3r3k> hi, I need help with update-grub please
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> !details | kill3r3k
[23:09] <indy__> ilovefairuz, sorry, if you said smth i didnt see it because my system hand and i rebooted
[23:09] <indy__> ilovefairuz, everything froze apart from the mou pointer
[23:09] <ilovefairuz> indy__: you should tinker more in the volume applet
[23:09] <pushpop> where is the cgi-bin folder in ubuntu
[23:09] <indy__> ilovefairuz, anyway, did you see my 2 conclusions with the laptop and the live cd? :)
[23:09] <Tom7777> Hi, how do I get the room list in empathy (irc)?
[23:09] <TiK> janicko: any luck?
[23:10] <ilovefairuz> indy__: yes and that's what i said
[23:10] <janicko> TiK: no
[23:10] <TiK> did you upgrade flash?
[23:10] <kill3r3k> ubottu: I'm running ubuntu server 10.4.1 on VirtualBox I modified /etc/default/grub, added vga=ask as parameter to kernel, it's no longer supported so my ubuntu wont start. I edited /etc/default/grub again, but now I need to update-grub but don't know how to do it. I booted up from ubuntu server cd
[23:10] <TiK> trychrome.. hats what I use
[23:10] <dan_s> Okay..I get 5 partitions and two are linux one is very small though. The problem is I've lost my main account and am stuck in some other acccount
[23:10] <TiK> thats
[23:11] <MarkusT> I'm trying to backport mavericks CouchDB to hardy. While Erlang was no problem, couchdb-bin fails to build and I have no clue why. I went through the log numerous times, but I can't figure it out. Would someone be willing to have a log at the log (tinyurl.com/buildcouch) and be able to give me a hint where to look?
[23:11] <indy__> ilovefairuz, ok, in Hardware I have HDA (HDMI) set to Profile: Off and Internal Audio to Analog Stereo Output
[23:11] <dan_s> one says Extended?
[23:11] <ZykoticK9> kill3r3k, see the !grub2 factoid for chroot directions - chroot then run the grub-update command.
[23:11] <ilovefairuz> !screenshot > indy__
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> kill3r3k: you can hold shift at boot and access recovery mode, you should be able to do it from there, or boot to livecd. chroot to the nistalled system and run it there
[23:11] <TiK> janicko: did you update flash to 82 ?
[23:12] <indy__> ilovefairuz, and in Output I have Analog Output
[23:12] <indy__> ilovefairuz, just that, I don't think theres reason for screenshot, I told you my settings :-)
[23:12] <janicko>  TiK: i did
[23:12] <indy__> ilovefairuz, but if you need, i can send you
One account has the gui and this one is only a terminal. One has all my files, this one has nada.
[23:13] <bibou> salut a tous !
[23:13] <ZykoticK9> dan_s, sorry - i have no idea...
[23:14] <Tom7777> How do I get the irc roomlist in empathy?
[23:14] <kill3r3k> ZykoticK9, I did run chroot /home/hd update-grub but i get /dev/sbin/grub-probe: error cannot find a device for /
[23:14] <barrito> can some one help me
[23:14] <ZykoticK9> kill3r3k, you need to follow the directions!  there are a 2 other mounts you need to successfully run grub-update
[23:14] <ZykoticK9> !grub2 > kill3r3k
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> Tom7777: https://bugs.launchpad.net/telepathy-idle/+bug/426795
[23:15] <Tom7777> thank you
[23:15] <barrito> can someone help me?
[23:15] <ZykoticK9> Tom7777, empathy = fail for IRC...
[23:15] <imanc> hey how can i get a flaming mouse cursor in 10.4?  And what other mad/cool effects can I get?  I have compiz wobbly windows 'n other stuff already
[23:15] <ActionParsnip> barrito: not if you don't ask
[23:15] <bibou> qui pouurait m'aidé
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> imanc: i'd ask in #compiz
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> !fr | bibou
[23:16] <ZykoticK9> !fr | bibou
[23:16] <imanc> ActionParsnip: cheers
[23:16] <kill3r3k> ActionParsnip, I cant use recovery mode because I added vga=ask to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX and it affects recovery mode as well :/
[23:16] <bibou> ok
[23:16] <barrito> well i have this problem not being able to use wifi
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> kill3r3k: then you'll need the desktop cd (or another live cd distro) to chroot to the installed OS
[23:17] <ovy> hey youtube is great and already displays my movie on its search although only an hour passed. see me using ubuntu to do a prank, seach for this prank "CON PRANK (pranking windows 7 with an ubuntu CD)" and don't laugh i know my english stinks
[23:17] <ZykoticK9> !ot | ovy
[23:17] <barrito> sooo can anyone help?
[23:17] <ZykoticK9> !ask | barrito
[23:18] <ovy> ok ZyoticK9 sry about that
[23:18] <ZykoticK9> !tab > ovy
[23:18] <kimb> how tu use line command
[23:18] <discozohan> Hey! Can anyone say, should i also create swap partition on raid, that will hold only /home directory ?
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> barrito: currently, no we cannot help. If you explain your issue then somebody MAY be able to help
[23:19] <kimb> i don't know how
[23:19] <ZykoticK9> barrito, sorry - i see you did ask (wireless) perhaps giving more details would help
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> kimb: depends what you want to achieve...
[23:19] <ovy> ZykoticK9, thanks about that tab thing, i didn't know that
[23:19] <ilovefairuz> !terminal | kimb
[23:19] <cast> discozohan: raid1 presumably?
[23:19] <ZykoticK9> ovy, glad to help :)
[23:19] <kimb> thanks
[23:19] <barrito> well i go to connect to my wireless net work and nothing shows up and i can't get it to connect what do i do
[23:20] <kimb> but i would to learn bases
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> barrito: if yuo run: sudo lshw -C network    you will see the wireless chip. You can websearch that to find guides
[23:20] <discozohan> cast: raid1 for full system, raid 10 for /home only
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> barrito: if you run: sudo iwlist scan    do you see access points?
[23:20] <barrito> yeah i did that and i can't find anything
[23:20] <ilovefairuz> barrito: in a terminal: iwlist scan... any networks shown?
[23:21] <discozohan> cast: so, i created swap for system raid, and want to know, should i also create it for second raid ;)
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> ilovefairuz: iwlist needs sudo dude
[23:21] <menzow> Hi
[23:21] <andaluz> Hello, When I start firefox, my cpu usage runs to 100% because of some scripts somehow got in an infinite loop. Is this familiar?
[23:21] <basix-> what is the difference between ubuntu desktop and ubuntu server?
[23:21] <ilovefairuz> ActionParsnip: no it doesn't... try without it
[23:21] <andaluz> I'm using karmic
[23:21] <KruyKaze> hey ubuntuers , how do I migrate my PPA's to a new release of ubuntu?
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> basix-: desktop comes with a gui, server doesnt
[23:21] <ZykoticK9> basix-, server doesn't have a GUI
[23:21] <menzow> I just installed Linux xUbunto for the first time :D , How can i install my audio card?
[23:21] <opu> ubuntu can not detect my modem even using usb-modswitch
[23:22] <n0a1ias> basix, server is cli and has stuff for servers installed
[23:22] <ilovefairuz> barrito: pastebin: lshw -C network
[23:22] <barrito> it say interface doesn't support scanning
[23:22] <ilovefairuz> !paste | barrito
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> ilovefairuz: would love to, just need my lady to power on my server....
[23:22] <basix-> so i need to be very well with the terminal before i decide to install ubuntu server?
[23:23] <cast> discozohan: nah, you don't really need swap at all, so 1 swap volume should be plenty
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> basix-: pretty much. you can install all the server stuff on the desktop system too
[23:23] <ZykoticK9> basix-, you can use Desktop as a server (you don't need the server version)
[23:23] <kill3r3k> ZykoticK9, I dont understand your instructions, thus cant follow it. What are 2 more mount I need, before chrooting?
[23:23] <opu> how to use a desktop as a server?
[23:23] <basix-> okay, well what are some key features server has opposed to desktop that i can install?
[23:23] <ZykoticK9> kill3r3k, see the link in !grub2
[23:24] <discozohan> cast: ok, i'll try it out. Question appeared cause of my unsuccessfull previous install, so i just supposed the reason was about swap
[23:24] <basix-> like sshd, httpd, ftpd, etc?
[23:24] <andaluz> basix-: it's just the software what makes a pc act as a service
[23:24] <barrito> ok so i tried the scan command and it came back saying that the interface doesn't support scanning
[23:24] <andaluz> server
[23:24] <ilovefairuz> basix-: no graphical interface and some preinstalled stuff
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> basix-: sure, they can all be installed on the desktop system
[23:24] <basix-> ok makes sense, thanks everyone
[23:25] <ZykoticK9> ilovefairuz, +PAE by default - just to muddy the waters further ;)
[23:25] <andaluz> windows is GUI, but it can act as a server with software like IIS for example.
[23:25]  * ilovefairuz loves ubuntu server 
[23:25] <cast> bleh @ PAE, just run 64bit already
[23:25] <andaluz> server has nothing to do with GUI or not, it's the type of softwsre you running.
[23:25]  * ActionParsnip misses his old gentoo fileserver
[23:26] <rww> ZykoticK9: Ubuntu Desktop installs PAE if it detects you need it now.
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> cast: not if you have a brother printer ;)
[23:26] <andaluz> but it's normal a server runs without gui.
[23:26] <ZykoticK9> rww, that's true
[23:26] <KruyKaze> can anyone tell me how to use my lucid PPAs after a frsh install of Maveric?
[23:26] <barrito> so no one has anything for me
[23:26] <menzow> How do i install my soundcard? o_o im new to linux : Running Xubuntu 9.x
[23:27] <ilovefairuz> KruyKaze: change the sources.list relevant file/line to point to maveric instead of lucid (usually the very last word)
[23:27] <barrito> is the BCM4322 net card supported?
[23:27] <menzow> How do i install my soundcard? o_o im new to linux : Running Xubuntu 9.x
[23:27] <KruyKaze> ilovefairuz, for every single ppa?
[23:28] <n0a1ias> how do i turn my ubuntu into a proxy server, like freeproxyserver.com?
[23:28] <ilovefairuz> menzow: it should be automatically installed. open a terminal and pastebin: sudo lshw
[23:28] <KruyKaze> ilovefairuz, there's no script to automate this?
[23:28] <n0a1ias> one that makes you anonymous
[23:28] <ilovefairuz> !paste | menzow
[23:28] <ilovefairuz> KruyKaze: do you have  THAT many PPAs?
[23:28] <KruyKaze> around 20
[23:29] <barrito> i really need help
[23:29] <ilovefairuz> KruyKaze: well it's not even guaranteed that the PPAs provide maverick builds for each package
[23:29] <barrito> i don't want to be tied to a cable all day
[23:29] <n0a1ias> barrito, just ask your question
[23:29] <barrito> i did
[23:30] <ilovefairuz> KruyKaze: you should do one by one manually and sudo an apt-get update after each
[23:30] <KruyKaze> ilovefairuz, that's understood
[23:30] <barrito> multiple times
[23:30] <n0a1ias> barrito, o sorry
[23:30] <kill3r3k> ZykoticK9, thank you very much it worked, but still I dont get what mount --bind does exactly
[23:30] <ilovefairuz> barrito: sudo apt-get install patebinit && sudo lshw -C network | pastebinit
[23:30] <ispirto> hey, anyone with experience at red5?
[23:30] <KruyKaze> ilovefairuz, i use very populat ppas so they will work on Mav
[23:30] <ZykoticK9> kill3r3k, sorry i couldn't explain that...  glad it worked though :)
[23:30] <ilovefairuz> barrito: type: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[23:31] <panpansh> hi all
[23:31] <coz_> barrito,  hold on  I am reading some reports on that card
[23:31] <indy__> ilovefairuz, http://imagebin.org/111684
[23:31] <panpansh> anyone can help me to redirect https://*binsh.fr/xxxxx to https://www.binsh.fr/xxxxx on apache ?
[23:31] <ratdog> Ubuntu software center willnot autorisze my password.. any ideers anyone?
[23:32] <coz_> barrito,   http://markmail.org/message/tqqvm5dazgcixkhf  seems to have a temporary workaround
[23:32] <ZykoticK9> ratdog, from a terminal can you successfully run "sudo ls"?
[23:32] <indy__> ilovefairuz, http://imagebin.org/111689
[23:32] <ilovefairuz> indy__: checking
[23:32] <ratdog> ZykoticK9 how i do that?
[23:32] <indy__> ilovefairuz, ok :)
[23:33] <ZykoticK9> ratdog, open a terminal (Application / Accessories / Terminal) and type "sudo ls" and type your password
[23:34] <ratdog> it logged into some stuff ZykoticK9
[23:34] <barrito> uh coz: that didn't work and ilovefairuz that also didn't work
[23:34] <jjlava> Hi there, need some help w/video sound in Lucid Lynx
[23:34] <coz_> barrito,  mm ok  let me do more searching
[23:34] <ntr0py> How can i mount a udf dvd iso image which contains executable files?
[23:34] <ZykoticK9> ratdog, so you password worked there?
[23:34] <ratdog> yes
[23:34] <ilovefairuz> barrito: what didn't work? the command should install a tool, then so: sudo lshw -C network | pastebinit - ... and paste address here
[23:34] <ZykoticK9> ratdog, sorry i have no idea what it would fail in Ubuntu Software Center then - it should work the same???
[23:35] <ratdog> amsn_received	     login			     Pictures
[23:35] <ratdog> Desktop		     MCity-Carved-1.0.tar.gz	     Public
[23:35] <ratdog> Documents	     MCity-MardiGrasDeux.tar.gz      Templates
[23:35] <ratdog> Downloads	     Music			     Ubuntu One
[23:35] <ratdog> examples.desktop     netscape-navigator-9.0.0.6      Videos
[23:35] <ratdog> hs_err_pid23036.log  netscape-navigator-9.0.0.6.exe  windowborderthemes
[23:35] <FloodBot3> ratdog: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:35] <cast> ntr0py: no luck with mount -o loop?
[23:35] <ratdog> all logged in
[23:35] <barrito> ilovefaiuz:sorry i typed the command wrong...what tool does it install
[23:36] <n0a1ias> does ChanServ give out op status often?
[23:36] <Prodego> only when asked
[23:36] <coz_> barrito,  also found the driver here    http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php and the link that was posted about it    I am afraid this is all I know   http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/redhat-fedora-linux-help/141432-broadcom-bcm4322-wireless-card.html
[23:37] <n0a1ias> ChanServ, will you give me op status please?
[23:37] <n0a1ias> hah
[23:37] <coz_> barrito,  ignore that third link
[23:37] <jjlava> Hi, would anyone be able to answer a question about a sound problem I am having?
[23:37] <ratdog> ph33r >:) wake U
[23:37] <ilovefairuz> barrito: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[23:37] <ratdog> UP
[23:38] <barrito> i did that fruit what does it install though
[23:38] <well_laid_lawn> !info pastebinit
[23:38] <ilovefairuz> barrito: a tool to paste the output of a command to a pastebin: next: sudo lshw -C network | pastebinit -
[23:39] <undifined> coz_, all ok now ?
[23:39] <n0a1ias> how do i turn my ubuntu into an anonymous proxy server, like freeproxyserver.com?
[23:40] <barrito> fair it said that it find the pastebinit
[23:40] <undifined> n0a1ias, you don't want to do that ... :p
[23:40] <ilovefairuz> !tab | barrito
[23:40] <ilovefairuz> barrito: says what?
[23:40] <wentor> hi
[23:40] <wentor> any1 knows where i could found a driver for my idt sound card?
[23:40] <n0a1ias> undifined, why?
[23:40] <blockhead> Need a bit of help, has anyone used Windows Programs on Ubuntu with success?
[23:40] <undifined> n0a1ias, crackers will take advantage of you
[23:41] <ilovefairuz> indy__: try setting the second one to off and enable the first one
[23:41] <n0a1ias> blockhead, try /join winehq
[23:41] <blockhead> thanks n0a1ias
[23:41] <n0a1ias> undifined, im not gonna have anything on that computer
[23:41] <ilovefairuz> wentor: pastebin: sudo lshw -C multimedia
[23:41] <n0a1ias> i just one one that i can trust
[23:41] <pseudosmart> My speakers don't work, but my headphones do in 10.04
[23:41] <pseudosmart> any suggestions?
[23:42] <ntr0py> cast: yes it mounts but the files have not executable rights and the mounted fs is read only
[23:42] <indy__> ilovefairuz, no need to reboot right?
[23:42] <ilovefairuz> indy__: no
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> pseudosmart: run: alsamixer in a terminal and make sure all levels are cranked and unmuted
[23:43] <pseudosmart> I have done that, and everything is set to 100%
[23:43] <indy__> ilovefairuz, nothing :-(
[23:43] <wentor> it is an nvidia: MCP72XE/MCP72P/MCP78U/MCP78S High Definition Audio
[23:43] <n0a1ias> undifined, still though, do you know how to do it?
[23:44] <barrito> still not working
[23:44] <ntr0py> cast: how can i mount the files in the iso with executable rights?
[23:44] <barrito> it said command not found
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> !sound | pseudosmart
[23:44] <undifined> n0a1ias, I don't want another spamming server online
[23:45] <indy__> ilovefairuz, So, what can I do? Install a different operating system? I don't know...
[23:45] <ilovefairuz> barrito: copy and paste to a pastebin
[23:45] <ilovefairuz> !paste > barrito
[23:45] <johnny_> !Time
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> pseudosmart: you could also try the alsa ppa to get the latest alsa: https://launchpad.net/~ricotz/+archive/unstable
[23:45] <ilovefairuz> barrito: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[23:45] <indy__> ilovefairuz, I bought that computer very expensive :(
[23:45] <barrito> the latest
[23:45] <nakhlawi> ntr0py: you can use the exec option in mount
[23:45] <n0a1ias> undifined, how would that spam anyone? i just want one to check my email and get on web based irc clients from school
[23:46] <ilovefairuz> barrito: what command isn't found? lshw ?
[23:46] <barrito> ilovefairuz: also pastebin? kinda a n00b soo
[23:46] <unogame> hello I'm trying to set up a centralized log-on scheme in a cs lab at my school using ldap our domain consists of dc=cs,dc=school,dc=edu, if I leave the dc=cs out then I have no problems with the setup but if I do then complains about dc naming
[23:46] <undifined> n0a1ias, then do not use an anonymous proxy server
[23:46] <undifined> n0a1ias, use proper authorised users
[23:47] <unogame> is there a reason why I have problems having cs a part of my domain?
[23:47] <johnny_> !xchat
[23:47] <ilovefairuz> barrito: yes pastebin
[23:47] <n0a1ias> undifined, my school has those blocked
[23:48] <barrito> ilovefairuz: ok the terminal window linked me now what
[23:48] <ilovefairuz> barrito: paste the link here
[23:48] <rooks> unogame, ssh to some school server, look at their ldap.conf
[23:48] <n0a1ias> undifined, are you cool with a pm?
[23:48] <rooks> unogame, i don that recently and it was win
[23:48] <undifined> yes
[23:48] <barrito> http://pastebin.com/fZ4SNQKN
[23:49] <wele> can any one help me please with the effectes, sometime they work and sometime not work
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | barrito
[23:49] <ntr0py> nakhlawi: "sudo mount /src.iso /dst -t udf -o loop,exec"  does not work
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> wele: when they don't, if you press ALT+F2 and run: compiz --replace   do they work?
[23:49] <ilovefairuz> barrito: in system > administration > hardware drivers, enable the card
[23:50] <barrito> ok thanks
[23:50] <wele> ActionParsnip: no
[23:50] <lahwran> what is a good screencap wrapper so my friend doesn't have to use the ffmpeg command line to capture video from the screen?
[23:50] <nakhlawi> ntr0py: why? what happened. when you type: mount what do you see?
[23:51] <johnny_> Does anyone know the IRC port number, and is it still needed to function XChat?
[23:51] <barrito> thank you for the help guys i'm off
[23:51] <lahwran> johnny_, 6667 is the default
[23:51] <ilovefairuz> !info recordmydesktop | lahwran
[23:51] <jb12> hi everyone
[23:51] <jb12> can anyone help here
[23:51] <jb12> getting this erro
[23:51] <ntr0py> nakhlawi: it mounts without complaining but the mounted files are not executable
[23:51] <jb12> Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/dists/lucid/Release .
[23:51] <ratdog> aha, PolicyKit Authentication Agent" in System -> Preferences -> Startup Applications was pointing to "/usr/lib/kde4/libexec/polkit-kde-authentication-agent-1" o.O
[23:51] <ratdog> I'm using ubuntu and it's very strange option. So I changed it to "/usr/lib/policykit-1-gnome/polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1" then restarted session. All works now :)
[23:52] <nakhlawi> ntr0py: it looks like you have to mount with "su" to activate executable access
[23:52] <unogame> rooks, the problem is that ubuntu 10.04 doesn't have ldap.conf anymore and the documentation for the new ldap is not helping
[23:52] <jb12> Unable to find expected entry  partner”/binary-amd64/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[23:52] <johnny_> @lahwran  Thanks!
[23:52] <ratdog> relogin time
[23:53] <rooks> unogame, i used /etc/ldap.conf from fedora maintained by my schools admin, i added it to /etc/ldap/ldap.conf i also moved directly /etc/ldap.conf so i can use nss
[23:53] <ilovefairuz> jb12: sudo apt-get update
[23:53] <ActionParsnip> wele: ok, run it in a terminal instead, the output may help. Also check in /var/log/Xorg.0.log    for why the video drivers arent loading right
[23:53] <ntr0py> nakhlawi: nope the files are "-r--r--r--"
[23:54] <hiku> !codecs : hiku
[23:54] <hiku> !codecs > hiku
[23:54] <andaluz> Does anyone know a good opensource downloader voor mp3 songs?
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> andaluz: wget
[23:54] <rooks> transmission
[23:54] <hiku> rip your cd
[23:54] <wele> ActionParsnip: what i write in the terminal
[23:55] <andaluz> ActionParsnip: wget is just a tool to download from web. I need something like bittorrent or Limewire...
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> !torrent | andaluz
[23:55] <ilovefairuz> andaluz: a downloader like what application ?
[23:55] <hiku> transmission is a linux bittorrent
[23:55] <rooks> andaluz, transmission
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> !limewire | andaluz
[23:55] <LetsGo67> How do I use my Telus Huawei E182E Mobile Internet Key in Ubuntu 10.04 please?  It doesn't show up in my network list, even after entering the network manually!
[23:56] <andaluz> mp3 for north african music called Rai
[23:56] <nakhlawi> ntr0py: is the mount point executable?
[23:56] <ntr0py> yes
[23:56] <rooks> gnutella network was full of freaks and that was like 4 years ago
[23:56] <ntr0py> nakhlawi: yes
[23:56] <wele> ActionParsnip: i get this msg, WARNING: Application calling GLX 1.3 function "glXCreatePixmap" when GLX 1.3 is not supported!  This is an application bug!
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> andaluz: torrent clients also download from the web, just using differernt protocols. If you are more specific with your question you wil get better answers
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> wele: i'd ask in #compiz . They may know a thing or 3
[23:59] <rww> ActionParsnip: Torrent clients download from the Internet. The web uses HTTP.
[23:59] <andaluz> ActionParsnip: what I want is an app where I type in artist-name and song-title and than the app search for it and download it.
[23:59] <andaluz> rww: that's what I tried to tell ActionParsnip
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> rww: exactly, the question was not precise so I went with good old wget :)