[00:14] <chrisccoulson> lamalex, that's deliberate
[00:14] <chrisccoulson> so it's not loaded on the standard desktop session
[00:14] <chrisccoulson> it's in the changelog ;)
[00:17] <lamalex> chrisccoulson how does one load it?
[00:17] <chrisccoulson> i don;t know, i'm not sure if you can
[00:19] <lamalex> hmm
[14:29] <JanCBorchardt> vish, I guess less non-papercuts would be reported if the bug reporting guidelines would explain what a paper cut is and what it is not.
[14:30] <JanCBorchardt> vish, like the section ›What is a paper cut?‹ from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PaperCut – or only the first paragraph of that. That way it will be read by more people than if it is just on the project overview page
[14:30] <vish> JanCBorchardt: yeah , no matter how well we try to explain , everyone feels their bug is a papercut ;)
[14:31] <vish> JanCBorchardt: but yeah agreed, the guideline needs to be a lot more strict
[14:33] <vish> JanCBorchardt: you mean we can improve the wiki? or we paste those lines while replying?
[14:40] <JanCBorchardt> vish, no, just copy the part ›What is a paper cut?‹ to the Launchpad bug reporting guidelines in the Paper Cuts project.
[14:40] <JanCBorchardt> vish, so that everyone sees the definition before filing a bug
[14:43] <vish> JanCBorchardt: hrmm , well. we can do that , but still no one would read.. atleast, we are trying and you will be happy ;)
[14:43] <vish> JanCBorchardt: the maintainer is set to UX , so we need to wait till monday to poke someone :)
[14:45] <vish> JanCBorchardt: oh wait! no i see where you want that text!  i'v been telling that for a very long time!
[14:45] <vish> now* i
[14:45] <JanCBorchardt> vish, I know that no one reads that but maybe it’ll help a bit ;)
[14:46] <JanCBorchardt> vish, yes, the bug reporting guidelines, the last thing one has to read (scroll through) before they click ›Submit Bug Report‹
[14:46] <JanCBorchardt> vish, I thought you can edit that because you are registered as driver of the project
[14:47] <vish> JanCBorchardt: i thought that the text was already being mentioned when someone tries to report a bug! i'v told that a long time ago , i guess no one figured how to get that done :/
[14:48] <vish> JanCBorchardt: nah, i dont have access to that , only the maintainers can change that.
[15:00] <JanCBorchardt> vish, it’s pretty easy: https://bugs.launchpad.net/cardapio/+configure-bugtracker and change the text in ›Helpful guidelines for reporting a bug‹
[15:01] <JanCBorchardt> vish, for as soon as someone of the UX team comes :)
[15:03] <vish> JanCBorchardt: yeah , i guess they dint find that link... ;)  i'll mention it on monday :)
[15:03] <JanCBorchardt> vish, cool, thanks :)
[15:04] <JanCBorchardt> vish, oh and I see you worked on Humanity, I got a question about that: I combined 2 Humanity icons to make one for a project, do I need to look out for something like specific attribution? (or is it just ok when I say which ones I edited?)
[15:04] <JanCBorchardt> vish, the related icon is that of http://launchpad.net/cardapio
[15:06] <vish> JanCBorchardt: i dont know much about what the right form or attribution is.. but have a look at the Humanity authors file , we use some icons from gnome and how we have attributed it...
[15:07] <vish> JanCBorchardt: there is some clause in GPL ,that if a GPL work is redone it needs to be GPL too or something..
[15:07] <vish> JanCBorchardt: but, not to worry, we wont sue you ;p
[15:10] <JanCBorchardt> vish, Cardapio is GPL, so that will be alright I guess
[15:10] <JanCBorchardt> vish, thanks for the info :)
[15:10] <vish> np..
[15:35] <vish> JanCBorchardt: that slider bug is a  dupe ;)
[15:35] <JanCBorchardt> vish, yes, I already found that out shortly afterwards ;)
[18:18] <lucidfox> So upon reading the Ayatana mailing list, apparently it "makes sense" that there is no Qt equivalent of libappindicator, why?
[18:19] <lucidfox> What am I supposed to do if I want to port Qt applications using the notification area to indicators?
[20:20] <chrisccoulson> the recent appmenu-gtk update is crashing pretty much every application that doesn't export a menu
[20:21] <chrisccoulson> nm-applet, firefox/thunderbird dailies, gnome-keyboard-properties to name but a few
[20:21] <chrisccoulson> not sure if anyone wants to have a look at those? ;)
[20:23] <chrisccoulson> bug 625691 and bug 625951 for example
[20:23] <chrisccoulson> err, bug 625967 actually
[22:50] <Omega> Maybe we should provide more useable information at the logon/session screen, like date/time