| AlanBell | hi all | 13:47 |
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| Pendulum | hi AlanBell | 13:51 |
| AlanBell | ok, so how are we doing these personas then? | 14:20 |
| Pendulum | let me look at the most up to date list and then I'll give you my ideas | 14:29 |
| Pendulum | (sorry, still waking up/doing breakfast/etc. here) | 14:29 |
| AlanBell | oh, there have been three more submissions | 14:35 |
| AlanBell | actually two sensible ones | 14:36 |
| Pendulum | \o/ | 14:45 |
| Pendulum | do you want to add them in and then e-mail at least to me? | 14:45 |
| AlanBell | once we know what we are doing I will try and grab some extra helpers | 15:12 |
| Pendulum | I think the first thing we do is just group in terms of impairment | 15:12 |
| AlanBell | ok | 15:20 |
| Pendulum | the real reason to do this today is less a matter of it will take a lot of time so needs lots of people and more that I want to make sure we're all working off the same things and have the same spreadsheet :) | 15:22 |
| AlanBell | so there are a couple of deaf users, 1, 16, 27 | 15:22 |
| AlanBell | a number of blind/vision impaired users | 15:22 |
| Pendulum | do any of them have other impairments? (multiple impairments are what will make this tricky) | 15:23 |
| AlanBell | yes | 15:23 |
| AlanBell | and I would expect the personas to have multiple impairments | 15:23 |
| Pendulum | or at least some of them | 15:24 |
| Pendulum | okay, let's do the easiest bits first | 15:24 |
| AlanBell | there are some users with mobility/strength/control issues | 15:24 |
| Pendulum | well I'm just thinking first we pull out the people who have a single impariment and group them | 15:26 |
| Pendulum | then we figure out how to group the people with multiple impairments | 15:26 |
| AlanBell | ok, I am just going to close the survey, don't want anyone else responding and wasting their time | 15:27 |
| Pendulum | ok | 15:27 |
| Pendulum | so 1 & 27 definitely go together because they're both deaf only | 15:27 |
| Pendulum | number 4 doesn't have any impairment info and doesn't seem to use accessibility software or hardware really | 15:31 |
| Pendulum | which to me means it should probably be taken out? | 15:31 |
| Pendulum | it's great that said person loves Ubuntu, but they don't really give us information useful to us | 15:32 |
| Pendulum | hiya charlie-tca | 15:35 |
| charlie-tca | Hello, Pendulum | 15:35 |
| charlie-tca | power issues today here | 15:35 |
| Pendulum | how're you? | 15:35 |
| charlie-tca | Doing great! and you? | 15:36 |
| AlanBell | yeah, I should have skipped number 4 | 15:36 |
| Pendulum | charlie-tca: i'm swimming along ;-) | 15:38 |
| charlie-tca | heh | 15:40 |
| charlie-tca | Hoping to have things running long enough this weekend to hit the wiki, too | 15:40 |
| Pendulum | :) | 15:40 |
| AlanBell | I have re-ordered my rows a bit | 15:45 |
| Pendulum | okay | 15:45 |
| Pendulum | can you list out the new order by persona #? | 15:45 |
| Pendulum | err... peron | 15:45 |
| Pendulum | *person | 15:45 |
| Pendulum | or response number | 15:46 |
| Pendulum | or whatever the heck we're calling it that my brain isn't finding the word for? | 15:46 |
| AlanBell | 3, 5, 11, 16,20,21,22,26 are all partially sighted or blind | 15:47 |
| AlanBell | however that is two totally separate things really | 15:47 |
| Pendulum | it is, but putting them together to begin with makes sense | 15:48 |
| Pendulum | we can break down further once we've got initial breakdown done :) | 15:48 |
| AlanBell | 27 and 1 are deaf, and there are some interesting aspects to that like subtitles | 15:48 |
| Pendulum | yeah | 15:48 |
| Pendulum | and visual notification | 15:48 |
| AlanBell | and video chat | 15:49 |
| Pendulum | yeah | 15:49 |
| Pendulum | too bad MichelleQ and maco aren't here :P | 15:49 |
| AlanBell | and wanting more people to understand sign language | 15:49 |
| AlanBell | the rest are broadly speaking mobility related | 15:50 |
| AlanBell | things like hand strength and control | 15:50 |
| Pendulum | yeah | 15:51 |
| Pendulum | well and we have a couple people with learning difficulties/disabilities | 15:51 |
| Pendulum | one with motor + dyspraxia & dyslexia and #2 I think was cognitive in similar sort of ways | 15:51 |
| AlanBell | yes, memory difficulties | 15:51 |
| AlanBell | oh, 2 and 18 are the same | 15:54 |
| AlanBell | do hope they didn't actually forget they had done it the first time | 15:54 |
| AlanBell | looks like a double press of the submit button or something | 15:56 |
| Pendulum | *nods* | 16:00 |
| AlanBell | are there any impairments not represented in the responses? | 16:01 |
| Pendulum | mental illness, but I suspect people with mental illness are less likely to need adaptions | 16:04 |
| Pendulum | I wish we had more learning/cognitive, but we have some | 16:05 |
| AlanBell | no mention of autism | 16:09 |
| Pendulum | yeah | 16:10 |
| AlanBell | I did describe myself as "almost neurotypical" in the test post that I deleted | 16:10 |
| Pendulum | heh | 16:10 |
| Pendulum | btw, one of the ones in the VI/blind group is actually also mobility impaired, he just barely mentions it | 16:11 |
| AlanBell | ok, so how many personas can we boil this down to? | 16:12 |
| Pendulum | I'd like to see if we can boil down to 5ish | 16:12 |
| Pendulum | but it may take 6 or 7 | 16:12 |
| AlanBell | deaf, partially sighted, blind, mobility, cognitive? | 16:12 |
| Pendulum | yeah | 16:12 |
| Pendulum | that was my initial thought | 16:12 |
| AlanBell | as principal impairments, with a bit of overlap | 16:13 |
| Pendulum | right | 16:13 |
| Pendulum | I mean, having the partially sighted also have hearing loss, would make sense as a bit of overlap | 16:13 |
| Pendulum | (for example) | 16:14 |
| AlanBell | should also have a range of ages | 16:14 |
| AlanBell | maybe one quite elderly | 16:14 |
| Pendulum | yeah | 16:15 |
| Pendulum | ranging to kids | 16:15 |
| Pendulum | or, a kid | 16:15 |
| Pendulum | rather | 16:15 |
| Pendulum | sorry, I'm doing a lot of lack of brain function today | 16:16 |
| AlanBell | one or two rather successful in what they are doing (in business, sport or something) | 16:16 |
| Pendulum | at least one who works as a programmer or sysadmin or something similar | 16:17 |
| AlanBell | they need to be awesome people that we want to help | 16:17 |
| Pendulum | yes! | 16:17 |
| AlanBell | what countries do they live in? | 16:18 |
| Pendulum | hmm... good question | 16:19 |
| Pendulum | tbh, I'm not even sure we need to answer all these questions today | 16:19 |
| Pendulum | my main goal for the personas was to get things grouped and sorted so that we had a starting point and then hopefully can get people to commit to working on one persona | 16:21 |
| Pendulum | AlanBell: what hours would be good for you for a meeting on Wednesday? | 16:23 |
| Pendulum | nigelb: ping | 16:24 |
| Pendulum | (or any other day of the week, I'm flexible other than not being able to do anything after about 19:00 on Monday and Wednesday) | 16:27 |
| AlanBell | I am pretty good all day on wednesday | 16:30 |
| Pendulum | charlie-tca: are you interested in working on the personas? | 17:00 |
| Pendulum | ooh... this is cool http://www.frostbitesystems.com/ | 17:13 |
| Pendulum | oh, nevermind, it seems they already do | 17:14 |
| Pendulum | they just don't have Ubuntu on their list | 17:14 |
| Pendulum | bah, wrong channel | 17:14 |
| Pendulum | but the frostbite systems link is for us | 17:14 |
| Pendulum | they sell systems running Linxu and optimised for people who are VI or blind | 17:15 |
| Pendulum | *Linux | 17:15 |
| Pendulum | and they do do Ubuntu installs | 17:16 |
| charlie-tca | Pendulum: I don't think I can | 18:25 |
| Pendulum | charlie-tca: no worries :) was just curious | 18:30 |
| maco | im awake now what happened? | 20:35 |
| Pendulum | maco: I can't remember. something about deafness :P | 20:35 |
| AlanBell | I am awake too | 23:50 |
| Pendulum | AlanBell: why are you awake, it's late for you :P | 23:51 |
| AlanBell | beer is keeping me awake | 23:51 |
| Pendulum | heh | 23:51 |
| Pendulum | good reason | 23:51 |
| AlanBell | just got back from the pub with theopensourcerer | 23:51 |
| Pendulum | :) | 23:52 |
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