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[00:53] <kedarm> paultag: We might have to get https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/625518 fixed after all!
[00:53] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 625518 in gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "Add a keyboard shortcut by default for take screenshot of a selection" (affects: 2) (heat: 12)" [Wishlist,Confirmed]
[00:54] <kedarm> It seems that adding "custom keyboard shortcut" does not work when "Command" is something like "gnome-screenshot -a" :((
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[01:55] <Brackenn_> hello?
[01:56] <Brackenn_> Is anyone here that can help me?
[03:53] <eightball> dvd play back help?
[04:54] <pseudosmart> I was wondering if someone could just post the contents of their xorg.conf file, mine is blank, and I'd like to rebuild it
[04:55] <stlsaint> pseudosmart: your system should build one for you
[04:56] <pseudosmart> that's what I thought, but when I go to gedit xorg.conf, the file is blank
[04:56] <stlsaint> every xorg will be different with different resolution settings and what not
[04:56] <stlsaint> pseudosmart: that probably means that ubuntu is not using it...what release are you using?
[04:56] <pseudosmart> 10.04
[04:57] <pseudosmart> my screen is cut off on the bottom and right, no matter what resolution I try, and I can't figure it out
[04:57] <pseudosmart> I'm using a Sony Vaio VPCF115FM, if that makes a difference
[04:57] <pseudosmart> I'm not sure what graphics card I have, but I guess whatever it is, that's the problem
[04:58] <pseudosmart> but I just can't figure it out
[04:58] <pseudosmart> I thought maybe if I could at least have an xorg.conf file to start out with, I could play with it, and maybe figure it out.
[04:59] <pseudosmart> whatever the default NVIDIA drivers are that come with Ubuntu, they obviously don't work on my machine
[05:01] <stlsaint> pseudosmart: run in terminal: lspci | grep VGA
[05:01] <pseudosmart> this is the output from that
[05:01] <pseudosmart> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Device 0a29 (rev a2)
[05:02] <stlsaint> pseudosmart: you have nvidia card
[05:02] <pseudosmart> yep
[05:03] <pseudosmart> a 330M I think, but I'm not sure
[05:04] <stlsaint> pseudosmart: here is mine for reference since you asked: http://pastebin.com/HpAiRPX8
[05:55] <brackenn_> hello?
[05:56] <brackenn_> is anybody here?
[05:56] <aveilleux> !ask |bracken_
[05:56] <ubot2> bracken_: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[05:56] <aveilleux> brackenn_*
[05:56] <brackenn_> Okay.
[05:59] <aveilleux> Well, brackenn_? What's up?
[06:01] <brackenn_> I tried to change my password, and ended up making my .ICEauthority file get lost, and now I cant log into my profile. if I reboot in recovery mode, drop to root shell prompt,log in as my user, and do a 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop' will that over rite and or screw up any of my files and programs?
[06:03] <aveilleux> brackenn_: It shouldn't; that should only install the programs that are missing (which there aren't any).
[06:03] <aveilleux> brackenn_: What you want to do is sudo dpkg --reconfigure -a
[06:04] <brackenn_> what will sudo dpkg --reconfigure -a do?
[06:04] <aveilleux> brackenn_: It'll go through all of your installed packages and reconfigure them. Re-installing ubuntu-desktop won't solve your problem; reconfiguring it (hopefully) will
[06:09] <aveilleux> brackenn_: Apparently simply deleting the .ICEauthority file should solve most problems
[06:09] <brackenn_> the other users on my system are not having a problem, just my profile is messed up. I've tried to 'chown user:user /home/user/.ICEauthority' as sugested by some folks on the forums, but that comes back with file does not exist. will what you're sudgesting not affect the other user profiles?
[06:11] <aveilleux> brackenn_: It will not affect the other accounts, since it's just /your/ .ICEauthority file
[06:13] <brackenn_> Okay. Just try to delete it eh? what does that command look like?
[06:13] <aveilleux> brackenn_: Also, an easier way to write your home dir is just the tilde (~)
[06:13] <aveilleux> brackenn_: rm ~/.ICEauthority
[06:14] <brackenn_> Can that be done from the root directory?
[06:15] <aveilleux> brackenn_: Oh, right. Root login. Instead of the tilde, put /home/username
[06:17] <brackenn_> so...rm /home/william/.ICEauthority ?
[06:18] <aveilleux> brackenn_: Yes, that command looks correct
[06:18] <brackenn_> Trying it now.
[06:19] <brackenn_> come back with rm:cannot remove ...no such file.
[06:21] <aveilleux> brackenn_: Can you pastebin the output of ls -a /home/william/ for me please? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/
[06:22] <brackenn_> I don't know how to do that from root.
[06:22] <aveilleux> Um, let's see...
[06:23] <aveilleux> Can you SSH into the target system from your current one?
[06:23] <brackenn_> How bout I just type it in here? it is just about 4 files.
[06:24] <aveilleux> brackenn_: Only four files? New install?
[06:25] <brackenn_> No, a couple of years old. I took a pix with my phone. I can e-mail it to ya?
[06:26] <aveilleux> brackenn_: Can you upload it to an imagehost?
[06:28] <brackenn_> there is .   .private  .ecryptfs   README.txt   ..     .cache   Access-Your-Private-Data.desktop
[06:29] <aveilleux> brackenn_: ...You're missing quite a few files there. What distro is this?
[06:29] <brackenn_> 9.10
[06:30] <aveilleux> brackenn_: Is this running as a CLI system?
[06:31] <brackenn_> I don't know what that is.
[06:31] <aveilleux> brackenn_: Command-line
[06:32] <brackenn_> But I did a list of one of the other users, and i see what you mean.
[06:32] <aveilleux> brackenn_: What were you doing when this happened?
[06:32] <brackenn_> No. Up untill i tried to change my password, it was a mormal desktop gui.
[06:33] <brackenn_> changing my password.
[06:33] <brackenn_> I administered users, (me) and reset my password.
[06:33] <aveilleux> brackenn_: As in, the GUI interface? Hm...
[06:34] <brackenn_> Yes.
[06:34] <brackenn_> And then the next time I tried to log in.... this.
[06:35] <[V13]Axel> Quick question guys. Besides adding a period to the beginning of the folder, what is a way to hide a folder? I cannot rename these folders to anything, or I'll have to manually edit a WHOLE LOT of configuration options. Is there not a simple "Hide" option? Or a chmod option?
[06:35] <aveilleux> Who put that button there
[06:36] <aveilleux> [V13]Axel: No.
[06:36] <[V13]Axel> ... Seriously?
[06:36] <aveilleux> [V13]Axel: You can make the file nonreadable by other users, but you cannot hide it without adding a period to the front. Yes, seriously.
[06:37] <aveilleux> brackenn_: try resetting the account password with the Terminal command passwd william
[06:38] <brackenn_> ca n i do it in root? where I am now?
[06:38] <[V13]Axel> Well, it's as simple as this. I have a folder where all of the customizations I installed on a friends computer for him are. Some of the files in those folders are relied upon by many of the tweaks used. In order to rename the folders to .tweaks, I'd have to go back and re-configure all of the tweaks. ;_;
[06:38] <aveilleux> [V13]Axel: Tell him not to screw with it? The best defense against user error is user education
[06:39] <[V13]Axel> Well, he isn't the only one who uses the computer.
[06:39] <aveilleux> [V13]Axel: Then tell *them* not to mess with it
[06:39] <[V13]Axel> I'll just add an emblem to the folders' icons that conveys, "DO NOT OPEN," with an image.
[06:40] <aveilleux> [V13]Axel: A better idea would be to hide it... What tweaks require a folder in the home dir?
[06:41] <[V13]Axel> It's not in the home dir. It's in Downloads. -_-;;
[06:41] <[V13]Axel> If I had known there wasn't a way to hide it *easily*, I would have put them somewhere.
[06:42] <[V13]Axel> I'll figure something out. Thanks, aveilleux.
[06:42] <aveilleux> [V13]Axel: In any case. What kind of tweaks even require that kind of thing?
[06:42] <aveilleux> [V13]Axel: Most if not all tweaks I can think of are simple edits to a text file somewhere
[06:43] <[V13]Axel> It's more like... GUI, GUI, GUI. I don't feel like going back through and changing all those options again. I have it set up to look a lot like Windows 7, so the users will be a little more used to the interface. There are background images, etc, that will be broken if I rename the folders.
[06:45] <aveilleux> [V13]Axel: That doesn't make any sense. Background images should be dropped into /usr/share/....... nevermind he left.
[06:46] <hobgoblin> happens a lot :)
[06:46] <hobgoblin> morning aveilleux
[06:46] <aveilleux> For the record, the way [V13]Axel was talking about GUI tweaks is the wrong way of going about it. Background images should be dropped into /user/share/backgrounds/, and all Metacity themes are installed through the System > Preferences > Appearance applet. The theme gets installed, and you can delete the original .theme file
[06:46] <brackenn_> Hey, changing the password made no change
[06:47] <aveilleux> brackenn_: Hm... One last question. Is deleting the user and re-creating it out of the question?
[06:47] <aveilleux> Morning hobgoblin
[06:48] <brackenn_> no, but I'd like to try as much as i can to recover it. I got a lot of stuff in there.
[06:48] <aveilleux> brackenn_: The ls -a showed that most of the stuff you want to recover is gone.
[06:49] <brackenn_> what happened?
[06:51] <brackenn_> how could changinf the password do so much damage?
[06:52] <aveilleux> brackenn_: I honestly don't know. Best you can do is file a bug with gnome-system-tools ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-system-tools ) and re-create the user dir.
[06:52] <hobgoblin> what happened?
[06:54] <brackenn_> I changed my password and it blew away my profile. aparently.
[06:54] <aveilleux> hobgoblin: After using users-admin, his .ICEauthority file got removed. We also dicovered that his files were trashed as well.
[06:54] <brackenn_> how do i list all users from root?
[06:55] <aveilleux> brackenn_: cat /etc/passwd |grep /home
[06:55] <hobgoblin> files got trashed? how odd
[06:56] <aveilleux> hobgoblin: I know... I really don't know what users-admin could have done to do that
[06:56] <brackenn_> Okay, what am I looking at?
[06:58] <aveilleux> brackenn_: You should be looking at all of the users who have home dirs in /home (ie. real users, not system users). It'll output a bunch of information. The one you care about is the very first field, which is the username
[06:58] <brackenn_> okay.
[06:59] <aveilleux> brackenn_: Something else you can try is cat /etc/passwd | grep /home | cut -f1 -d':'
[07:00]  * aveilleux writes that command down for future reference
[07:00] <brackenn_> syslog, saned,william,margaret,antonia,ect...ect.
[07:04] <brackenn_> what does that do?
[07:08] <brackenn_> l
[07:09] <hobgoblin> were the files you are after in an encrypted drive?
[07:11] <brackenn_> I think somehow, yes. because it was asking over a nd over for the encryption passphraise.
[07:11] <brackenn_> I don't reme ber encrypting anything.
[07:13] <brackenn_> I remeber something in the forums about encryption being tangled up with shis.
[07:15] <hobgoblin> suggests you are "there is .   .private  .ecryptfs   README.txt   ..     .cache   Access-Your-Private-Data.desktop"
[07:16] <hobgoblin> might be all tangled up in there
[07:17] <hobgoblin> not ever used encrypted drive to know what would normally be visible and what would not be - if nothing is normally visible then I would assume that ls -al would not see the data
[07:17] <brackenn_> a forum post pointed to===>https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory#How
[07:19] <aveilleux> brackenn_: Sorry for not responding. The command cat /etc/passwd | grep /home | cut -f1 -d':' should output just the usernames of all the users
[07:20] <brackenn_> if i follow the instructions there under recovering your data manualy, or How to Remove an Encrypted Private Directory Setup...
[07:20] <hobgoblin> brackenn_: if that is the case - boot with a livecd - use the "Recovering Your Data Manually" bit - also http://www.kaijanmaki.net/2009/10/26/recovering-files-from-ecryptfs-encrypted-home/
[07:20] <hobgoblin> you can but try - but as I said - I do not know if encrypting home hides 'everything'
[07:28] <brackenn_> jeeze.
[07:58] <Mohan_chml> Guest79237: Ohai Compiledkernel
[08:02] <Mohan_chml> heya hobgoblin =]
[08:02] <hobgoblin> hi Mohan_chml
[08:03] <Mohan_chml> sup hobgoblin?
[08:03] <hobgoblin> yep - tea ;)
[08:03] <Mohan_chml> hobgoblin: I need a cup of tea
[08:05] <hobgoblin> I ALWAYS need tea :)
[08:06] <Mohan_chml> you woke up early today? I think its 9 AM there
[08:07] <hobgoblin> almost - 8am
[08:07] <Mohan_chml> hmmm Too Early in my day :D
[08:08] <hobgoblin> lol - I had a lie-in I was not up till 6:45 today
[08:08] <Mohan_chml> omg.. Any work you did?
[08:09] <hobgoblin> Mohan_chml: I wake early usually ...
[08:10] <Mohan_chml> I also always wake up early at 10 AM xD
[08:11] <hobgoblin> I'm ready for lunch then
[08:13] <Mohan_chml> eh..! lol
[08:40] <p0pc0rn> hi
[08:41] <p0pc0rn> I started FDE  system and it is giving me some strange install menu
[09:16] <pie_time> I just made many long over due ubuntu updates and restarted my system. I have a Full Disk Encryption LUKS encrypted disk that wouldn't boot upon restart and instead brought me to some basic install/rescue screen. There were 2 other drives, one flash usb and one large external usb drive, attached to the computer when I restarted it that also wouldn't mount when I tried to plug them into another ubuntu system. The error message th
[09:16] <pie_time> ey gave when my system tryed to auto mount them was, eg, "Unable to mount 2.0 GB Filesystem", "Unauthorized". Could anyone please help save my system?
[09:19] <swoody> pie_time: that sounds like you may have just entered the encryption password incorrectly. Try removing those external devices, reboot, and make sure to enter your password correctly
[09:19] <pie_time> swoody, nope
[09:21] <swoody> that error actually sounds like an automount error. Have you tried restarting without the devices connected?
[09:21] <tenach> Perhaps the second computer is seeing them as having been umounted in a not clean way.
[09:22] <pie_time> swoody, yes i have
[09:22] <pie_time> tenach, that makes sense
[09:24] <pie_time> tenach, can you help
[09:26] <tenach> pie_time, are the external drives NTFS format?
[09:26] <pie_time> no
[09:26] <tenach> what format are they?
[09:28] <tenach> pie_time, ^
[09:28] <pie_time> ext4
[09:28] <pie_time> and ext3
[14:14] <Silver_Fox_> Morning
[14:21] <duanedesign> Silver_Fox_: hello!
[14:22] <duanedesign> Silver_Fox_: I was just thinking about you this morning
[14:22] <Silver_Fox_> In a nice way duanedesign ?
[14:22] <lukjad> Silver_Fox_ !
[14:22] <duanedesign> Silver_Fox_: yep yep. I was reading my blogs I have bookmarked and came across yours
[14:22] <lukjad> Silver_Fox_ Care to see a panoramic I made?
[14:23] <Silver_Fox_> Hello lukjad
[14:23] <duanedesign> Silver_Fox_: i thought 'I havent seen SF in a couple days'
[14:23] <duanedesign> :)
[14:23] <duanedesign> and 'poof' your here. Careful what you wish for ;)
[14:23] <Silver_Fox_> Heeh, nobody usually notices when I come and go,  very kind of you to think about me
[14:23] <Silver_Fox_> Well i am still alive
[14:24] <duanedesign> that is good
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[14:24] <Silver_Fox_> I have been a little pushed at work
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[14:25] <Silver_Fox_> I have also got myself a new hard disk drive
[14:25] <Silver_Fox_> Which seems to be going belly up
[14:25] <duanedesign> Silver_Fox_: oh no
[14:25] <duanedesign> Silver_Fox_: I am thinking I might need a new HD. Mine has been running warm mlately
[14:25] <Silver_Fox_> Its an external TB
[14:25] <duanedesign> lately*
[14:25] <duanedesign> Silver_Fox_: that would be nice
[14:26] <Silver_Fox_> Literally opened about 5 minutes ago
[14:26] <lukjad> Silver_Fox_ Nice
[14:26] <Silver_Fox_> I think it needs a good formatting
[14:26] <Silver_Fox_> I can see a bunch of what appears to be windows files
[14:27] <duanedesign> hmm
[14:27] <duanedesign> I dislike when storage medium come with stuff on them
[14:27] <duanedesign> like thumb drives that have apps on them
[14:27] <Silver_Fox_> And when I try to write to the drive i get the message: Error - No space
[14:27] <lukjad> Silver_Fox_ What do you think: http://lukjad007.deviantart.com/art/MUHC-Panoramic-2010-06-22-8AM-177121026
[14:27] <Silver_Fox_> left on drive
[14:29] <duanedesign> had a fellow LoCo member who just got a 1TB drive. The computer is only seeing 300MB of it.
[14:29] <duanedesign> s/had/have
[14:29] <Silver_Fox_> I was planning to backup my system and do a complete reinstall
[14:35] <Silver_Fox_> Ahah,  no file system duanedesign
[14:49] <Silver_Fox_> Well that was fun.   :)
[14:57] <Silver_Fox_> Installing a video game I purchased today on my mac. :)  Never Winter Nights 2
[14:57] <Silver_Fox_> I wonder if it will be as good as the original
[14:59] <lukjad> Silver_Fox_ So, did you get a chance to see my image? :D
[15:01] <Silver_Fox_> Yes lukjad ,  looks good
[15:01] <Silver_Fox_> I like the railway
[15:01] <lukjad> Thanks :D
[15:01] <lukjad> Silver_Fox_ Would you happen to want the higher res version?
[15:01] <lukjad> Of that panorama
[15:02] <Silver_Fox_> I am kind of hopping machines lukjad ,  I have 3 on the go at the moment. Littke busy
[15:02] <Silver_Fox_> Perhaps later?
[15:02] <lukjad> Sure
[15:02] <Silver_Fox_> Okay,  thank you and sorry
[15:03] <lukjad> No worries. Want the link to the file or just PM me later
[15:06] <Silver_Fox_> Link now would be useful.
[15:06] <Silver_Fox_> I will download and have a "proper good look" when i can :)
[17:33] <matthatesspam> Hi, um... I have a question about wireless networks in the netbook remix.
[17:33] <matthatesspam> Well, more of a problem.
[17:34] <matthatesspam> It seems that it can't find my wireless router, yet it can locate my neighbors.
[17:34] <matthatesspam> Does anyone know why this is?
[17:35] <geirha> ... didn't give much time to respond.
[17:39] <geirha> Anyway, if he comes back, suggest changing the channel of his wireless network.
[17:49] <kosaidpo> hello guys ive upgraded to maverick and i get this error when i do update
[17:49] <kosaidpo> http://pastebin.com/1A235mWH
[17:58] <salted> hey guys
[17:58] <salted> I'm having a problem installing ubuntu
[17:59] <salted> I have two drives, one with windows and one with ubuntu, after I install ubuntu I get a grub resue prompt
[18:00] <salted> I've tried installing several times but I don't know what I'm doing
[18:01] <salted> I know when I'm at the last step I check to make sure that the checkbox for install bootloader is checked
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[19:44] <abhijeet> im using ubuntu 10.10 alpha 3 the synaptic manager packages index is not updated after selecting the reload button
[19:48] <abhijeet> the error scrrenshot is here http://imagebin.org/111793
[19:56] <geirha> Sure you didn't mean sudo apt-get upgrade  ?
[19:57] <abhijeet> yes
[19:58] <geirha> Well, there's no upgrade packagein maverick's repositories, so that error message is not surprising.
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[22:52] <pie_time> I just made many long over due ubuntu updates and restarted my system. I have a Full Disk Encryption LUKS encrypted disk that wouldn't boot upon restart and instead brought me to some basic install/rescue screen. There were 2 other drives as well, neither one encrypted, one flash usb and one large external usb drive, attached to the computer when I restarted it that also wouldn't mount when I tried to plug them into another ubun
[22:52] <pie_time> tu system. The error message they gave when my system tryed to auto mount them was, eg, "Unable to mount 2.0 GB Filesystem", "Unauthorized". I've been able to mount them using fsck but still have the problem with the LUKS install.
[22:52] <pie_time> I also have the problem that  I keep having to manually mount the drives that DO work and use sudo for any operations.
[23:27] <sebsebseb> Hi
[23:27] <aveilleux> Hello sebsebseb
[23:28] <aveilleux> !ask |sebsebseb
[23:28] <ubot2> sebsebseb: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[23:29] <sebsebseb> aveilleux: uh yeah, but
[23:29] <sebsebseb> aveilleux: I am no newbie and so on, so !ask isn't really a factoid for me
[23:29] <aveilleux> sebsebseb: #ubuntu-beginners-team is the offtopic channel
[23:30] <sebsebseb> aveilleux: sure, but saying hi in here, is hardly off topic
[23:30] <aveilleux> sebsebseb: This channel gets logged at irclogs.ubuntu.com, extraneous conversation clogs up the logs
[23:31]  * pedro3005 beeps
[23:31] <sebsebseb> aveilleux: I can name at least one Ubuntu channel, where probably still quite a lot of off topic,  still gets logged,  so whatever to that
[23:32] <sebsebseb> aveilleux: oh wait at  least two since #ubuntu
[23:33] <aveilleux> sebsebseb: One example doesn't set the rule. I periodically search through the logs, looking for solutions that were mentioned in the channel so I can refer to them if someone has a duplicate problem. Offtopic conversation hinders that process.
[23:34] <sebsebseb> aveilleux: well your actsually being off topic by saying this stuff to me
[23:34] <sebsebseb> in here
[23:34] <aveilleux> sebsebseb: You're assuming I don't want to log this conversation for future reference ;-)
[23:35] <sebsebseb> aveilleux: I used to be like you, and care a lot about logs, not so much now
[23:35] <aveilleux> sebsebseb: Have fun
[23:37] <sebsebseb> aveilleux: also useually the most interesting logs to go back to, turn out to be ones where interesting off topic was done, in my experience.  Half joking, but maybe when your more experienced with Ubuntu, and they are wanting new ops, you should apply :D.  Anyway have fun with Ubuntu.
[23:37] <aveilleux> sebsebseb: That's what personal logs are for
[23:38] <sebsebseb> !ot | aveilleux sebsebseb
[23:38] <ubot2> aveilleux sebsebseb: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[23:38] <sebsebseb> uhmm that factoid needs changing for this channel really
[23:38] <aveilleux> sebsebseb: In any case, it still applies.
[23:38] <zkriesse> Hehe
[23:39] <zkriesse> Waz up
[23:39] <sebsebseb> zkriesse: I am enjoying this kind of,  you know me on here, how I have used Ubuntu channels quite a lot,   since 2008.   Anyway so I just re join here, and this aveilleux starts saying I am off topic since I put Hi in here
[23:40] <zkriesse> He
[23:40] <zkriesse> sebsebseb: Haven't seen ya around in a while
[23:41] <sebsebseb> zkriesse: could be, because I am not as active as I used to be in Ubuntu channels by a long way, since no longer having pshycial installs of the distro, only development vm trying now for me,  I'll still help newbies out sometimes with it though.
[23:41] <sebsebseb> so yep re joined here
[23:42] <aveilleux> sebsebseb: Not because you said "hi"; Lots of people come in with "Hello?" and etc. so I assumed you were in need of support. Hence the !ask.
[23:42] <zkriesse> Nice
[23:42] <inspectorg> I am having a problem autostarting XBMC and then being able to use the remote controller. Anyone familiar with that probelm?
[23:42] <sebsebseb> zkriesse: oh yeah and i'll have to try Unity from a Live CD to try it
[23:42] <zkriesse> Make sure ya say hi to paultag sebsebseb
[23:42] <sebsebseb> Who's that?
[23:42] <inspectorg> Hi Paul.
[23:43] <pedro3005> the single most awesome person in the channel, that is!
[23:43] <pedro3005> :P
[23:43] <sebsebseb> aveilleux: eh well nevermind, I think we both got a sort of laugh, out of the whole thing :D
[23:43] <zkriesse> pedro3005: Next to bodhi
[23:43] <inspectorg> I added XBMC to the startup applications. But when I use the remote nothing happens.
[23:43] <sebsebseb> I don't see someone called paultag in the nick list
[23:43] <inspectorg> Let me describe what I have done and what happens.
[23:44] <pedro3005> then you need glasses
[23:44] <sebsebseb> oh I do
[23:44] <sebsebseb> yeah hes towards the top
[23:44] <sebsebseb> since voiced
[23:44] <zkriesse> Lol
[23:45] <sebsebseb> zkriesse: anyway you did acstauly see me around quite recently, when we talked in that fan boy channel,  you know the one I mean :D
[23:45] <inspectorg> If I do not auto start xbmc and run "service lirc restart" then when I start XBM manually  the remote works.
[23:46] <sebsebseb> zkriesse: well the blog itself is more of a fan boy thing, than the IRC channel by a long way, but yeah
[23:46] <pedro3005> inspectorg, you could set it up to automatically run that, though that's sort of a workaround
[23:47] <inspectorg> So I put a command "sleep 15" and "service lirc start" in /etc/rc.local, but then when XBMC auto starts the remote still doesn't work.
[23:47] <inspectorg> But when I manually start xbmc the remote works.
[23:48] <inspectorg> When I put both commands in /etc/rc.local  xbmc does not start.
[23:49] <pedro3005> I don't think you need sleep
[23:50] <inspectorg> I tried just "xbmc", "exec xbmc", xbmc-standalone, exec xbmc-standalone, none of them start xbmc.
[23:50] <inspectorg> I might not need the sleep, but I wouldn't think it would hurt or do you.
[23:51] <pedro3005> probably not
[23:52] <inspectorg> So to recap, how can I get xbmc to auto start in /etc/rc.local, or is there a better place?
[23:52] <pedro3005> inspectorg, did you remember to set it as executable?
[23:52] <sebsebseb> Hi pedro3005
[23:52] <inspectorg> I don't know what that means.
[23:53] <pedro3005> inspectorg, sudo chmod +x /etc/rc.local
[23:54] <inspectorg> Well I would think that /etc/rc.local is executable since the "service lirc start" seems to work.
[23:55] <inspectorg> But the xbmc command does not.
[23:55] <pedro3005> inspectorg, doesn't it already start automatically?
[23:55] <pedro3005> you could try changing that to restart
[23:55] <pedro3005> hi sebsebseb
[23:57] <inspectorg> When xbmc was starting automaticly, the lirc was not.
[23:57] <inspectorg> I don't understand why I have to start lirc anyway, since I would think that it would start automaticly.
[23:58] <inspectorg> I tried put the service lirc start command in the startup applications but it did nothing.
[23:58] <inspectorg> I can auto start one or the other but not both.
[23:59] <inspectorg> Is it a matter of timing or run levels, I don't know.