| jpds | 01:32:17 < Psi-Jack> !ops WitBier and Hopsa == Known troll. | 01:36 |
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| jpds | -server | 01:36 |
| jpds | Flannel: IT isn't that strange actually. | 01:37 |
| === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang | ||
| ubottu | In ubottu, maco said: !obfuscate is <reply> Obfuscated swearing is still swearing. Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly. | 05:14 |
| ubottu | In #ubuntu-offtopic, rww said: !mdollar is <reply> Ubuntu is spelled "Ubuntu". Microsoft Windows is spelled "Microsoft Windows". Call things by their true names, instead of making up puns that make you and our community look petty. | 06:39 |
| bazhang | !idle | kron|k | 06:45 |
| ubottu | kron|k: Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only; we ask you to part when you have no further business here in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries. | 06:45 |
| ikonia | !ops | kron|k again idle in the channel without being active | 09:02 |
| ubottu | kron|k again idle in the channel without being active: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Tm_T, tritium, elky, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, imbrandon, PriceChild, Madpilot, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, tsimpson, gnomefreak, jussi, topyli, or nhandler! | 09:02 |
| ubottu | ikonia called the ops in #ubuntu-ops (kron|k again idle in the channel without being active) | 09:02 |
| ikonia | I'll look for whatever is forwarding him here and turn it to a straight ban | 09:03 |
| IdleOne | ikonia: I changed it to a straight ban | 09:06 |
| ikonia | thank you | 09:06 |
| ikonia | was there a forward that got removed ? | 09:06 |
| IdleOne | Can someone please remove kron|k until he is ready to be return and discuss his ban | 09:07 |
| IdleOne | ikonia: yes I removed the forward | 09:07 |
| ikonia | cool | 09:07 |
| Mamarok | he is apparently idling since 16+ hours | 09:16 |
| persia | But has only been here for ~10 hours: there was some cycle that caused the forward to redirect here. | 09:17 |
| Mamarok | still way too long IMHO | 09:19 |
| Mamarok | wow, 17 minutes since ops call... | 09:20 |
| ikonia | please remove him | 09:20 |
| ikonia | persia: do you see Seeker`'s point from yesterday 17 minutes since an op call | 09:20 |
| Mamarok | apparently no ops active, and all teh active ones aren't ops here | 09:21 |
| persia | I'd be more convinced if we had any supplicants needing handling in the meantime. | 09:21 |
| ikonia | persia: really ? | 09:21 |
| ikonia | so if a user is doing | 09:21 |
| ikonia | a | 09:21 |
| ikonia | a | 09:21 |
| ikonia | a | 09:21 |
| ikonia | a | 09:21 |
| persia | But as I said yesterday, I'm not opposed to more ops here, if there is a need for more coverage. | 09:21 |
| ikonia | a | 09:21 |
| ikonia | a | 09:21 |
| ikonia | a | 09:21 |
| ikonia | a | 09:21 |
| ikonia | a | 09:21 |
| ikonia | a | 09:21 |
| Mamarok | ikonia: you will get banned :) | 09:21 |
| ikonia | a | 09:21 |
| ikonia | a | 09:21 |
| ikonia | a | 09:22 |
| ikonia | a | 09:22 |
| ikonia | a | 09:22 |
| ikonia | a | 09:22 |
| ikonia | a | 09:22 |
| IdleOne | doesn't look like it | 09:22 |
| ikonia | aa | 09:22 |
| ikonia | as often happens | 09:22 |
| ikonia | I won't | 09:22 |
| ikonia | no-one is here | 09:22 |
| Mamarok | 20 minutes since op call... | 09:22 |
| ikonia | it's not urgent as the guy is doing no harm, however it does highlight Seeker`'s point | 09:22 |
| Mamarok | yep | 09:22 |
| persia | But since we don't have any misbehaving users (except ikonia who is failing to provoke me, and on-topic with the pointless traffic, amusingly), and we don't have any business with which we'd prefer not to be interrupted, I'm just not sure how it matters. | 09:23 |
| ikonia | persia: I'm not trying to provoke you | 09:23 |
| persia | I agree that we've exposed a lack of coverage. I'm just not sure that it doesn't happen to be OK this time. | 09:23 |
| ikonia | it's not an issue at this time | 09:24 |
| Mamarok | no, I don't see why there is no op reaction after a call, that's the point | 09:24 |
| ikonia | there is no issue | 09:24 |
| Mamarok | urgent or not | 09:24 |
| persia | Oh. I thought you wanted me to interrupt your | 09:24 |
| persia | a | 09:24 |
| persia | a | 09:24 |
| persia | a | 09:24 |
| ikonia | however I called the ops and no-one responded to it | 09:24 |
| persia | ... | 09:24 |
| ikonia | if that HAD have been an issue, it would still be going on | 09:24 |
| persia | Agreed. | 09:24 |
| Mamarok | likely | 09:24 |
| Mamarok | 22 minutes... | 09:24 |
| ikonia | I think we get the point, I'll stop the clock | 09:25 |
| IdleOne | there is an issue, the issue is there is a no idling policy in this channel if we let this user idle then we may as well let everybody. | 09:25 |
| persia | can't. We all have logs of the op call. | 09:25 |
| Mamarok | IdleOne: +1 | 09:25 |
| ikonia | IdleOne: agreed, however it's actually causing an "issue" | 09:25 |
| persia | 23 minutes is perhaps slow, but not extremely so, given regular levels of noise in the channel. | 09:26 |
| Mamarok | topyli: thank you :) | 09:26 |
| IdleOne | thanks topyli | 09:26 |
| NuclearStr1der | I've been banned on #ubuntu , but I have no idea why. I haven't even used FreeNode before today. | 09:31 |
| Mamarok | @login | 09:34 |
| ubottu | The operation succeeded. | 09:34 |
| Mamarok | @btlogin | 09:34 |
| Mamarok | I don't see any bans, are you sure? | 09:38 |
| IdleOne | Mamarok: 27482 | 09:38 |
| Mamarok | hm | 09:38 |
| IdleOne | the ban seems to be a little to wide | 09:38 |
| ikonia | time to remove that probably | 09:39 |
| ikonia | it's quite old | 09:39 |
| Mamarok | apparently yes | 09:39 |
| IdleOne | yeah | 09:39 |
| IdleOne | you got it? | 09:39 |
| ikonia | however there are ISP's that are used for serious issues/attacks | 09:39 |
| ikonia | maybe worth checking it's not one of them | 09:39 |
| IdleOne | or shall I | 09:39 |
| ikonia | just doing a little research first | 09:39 |
| IdleOne | k | 09:39 |
| persia | I'm not sure that NuclearStr1der ever understood that the query was being investigated | 09:42 |
| IdleOne | ikonia: search padza in BT | 09:43 |
| IdleOne | also padxa | 09:43 |
| IdleOne | many many ban evasions | 09:43 |
| bazhang | the link dilberto posted is quite offensive | 09:52 |
| elky | persia, someone will contact him when a resolution is made | 09:52 |
| bazhang | also his quit message | 09:52 |
| persia | Ah cool. I'm glad procedure covers that. | 09:58 |
| bazhang | this is the gnaa troll quit message: Haiti=Mierda | 09:59 |
| elky | bazhang, dilberto? | 10:00 |
| bazhang | elky, yes | 10:00 |
| topyli | i have it in pm, he claims he doesn't know how to set a quit message | 10:01 |
| bazhang | guess we have to wait til he quits again to ban forward here | 10:01 |
| topyli | makes you wonder how he set it in the first place | 10:02 |
| bazhang | he's lying | 10:02 |
| topyli | of course | 10:03 |
| MichealH | Hello? | 10:06 |
| bazhang | MichealH, hi | 10:06 |
| bazhang | MichealH, something you needed help with? | 10:07 |
| MichealH | There was something last night | 10:09 |
| MichealH | I came in here | 10:10 |
| bazhang | MichealH, right, -youth? | 10:10 |
| MichealH | Yes | 10:10 |
| bazhang | MichealH, wrong channel. try #ubuntu-irc | 10:10 |
| MichealH | kay | 10:10 |
| MichealH | Thanks fro the help | 10:11 |
| bazhang | MichealH, welcome | 10:11 |
| bazhang | * [ramnepal] (~prabinmet@151.83.186.91): prabinmetals how can he get past that ban every time? | 10:13 |
| bazhang | *prabinmet*!*@* | 10:14 |
| elky | because you're puting "prabinmet" in the wrong place? | 10:21 |
| bazhang | *!*prabinmet@* and *prabinmet!* are two other examples I see in the ban list | 10:23 |
| elky | find a staffer then I guess | 10:26 |
| bazhang | well both seem to be in use, just experiment I guess | 10:26 |
| === apache2logger is now known as apachelogger | ||
| ubottu | FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (repeated abuse from Akaruz) | 13:12 |
| ubottu | sebsebseb called the ops in #ubuntu (seekalana) | 13:38 |
| * marienz isn't sure what to make of seekalana | 13:40 | |
| Seeker` | no idea | 13:41 |
| Seeker` | as far as I can work out, they were silent for ages, then just went pop | 13:41 |
| ikonia | hello MichealH | 14:28 |
| MichealH | Hi | 14:28 |
| ikonia | how can we help you ? | 14:28 |
| MichealH | I am not too sure about asking in IRC personally | 14:28 |
| ikonia | asking what ? | 14:29 |
| bazhang | MichealH, about -youth? | 14:29 |
| MichealH | here are people who were involved last night in there and I dont want them to know | 14:29 |
| MichealH | *there | 14:29 |
| MichealH | bazhang: Yes | 14:29 |
| ikonia | am I missing something ? | 14:29 |
| bazhang | MichealH, its #ubuntu-irc not here. | 14:29 |
| bazhang | ikonia, he has the wrong channel | 14:29 |
| ikonia | you told him that earlier though didn't you ? | 14:29 |
| bazhang | MichealH, I told you this earlier. this channel has nothing to do with that | 14:30 |
| MichealH | Its just there are people in there who I dont want to know | 14:30 |
| bazhang | MichealH, #ubuntu-irc please, not here | 14:30 |
| MichealH | Can it be done via PM in there? | 14:30 |
| bazhang | MichealH, up to you. | 14:30 |
| Seeker` | MichealH: who do you not wish to talk to? | 14:30 |
| ikonia | MichealH: talk in the channel, once an operator responds, ask them to talk in a pm | 14:30 |
| MichealH | Okay Thanks | 14:30 |
| MichealH | Seeker`: The people involved... I dont want them to see | 14:31 |
| Seeker` | Well, they are the ops of -youth? | 14:31 |
| MichealH | Yes | 14:31 |
| bazhang | ikonia, yes, he's been told 3 times now | 14:31 |
| MichealH | I will be going now | 14:31 |
| Seeker` | they kinda have to be involved if you are looking towards being unbanned | 14:31 |
| MichealH | Thanks anyway | 14:31 |
| Seeker` | how does he think he will be unbanned without the -youth ops knowing? | 14:32 |
| bazhang | no idea | 14:32 |
| bazhang | -irc is where things are worked out though, not here. | 14:32 |
| ikonia | oooo jungli ? | 14:43 |
| bazhang | ikonia, looked like it was jungli | 14:56 |
| ikonia | it did to me | 14:56 |
| marienz | oh dear | 14:57 |
| marienz | where? | 14:57 |
| ikonia | in #ubuntu | 14:57 |
| ikonia | but not %100 | 14:57 |
| marienz | nick? | 14:57 |
| jussi | marienz: could I have a momant of your time? | 14:57 |
| ikonia | oooo | 14:57 |
| elky | wait, the guy who started -youth is now banned from it? | 14:57 |
| ikonia | that doesn't make sense | 14:57 |
| marienz | jussi: sure | 14:58 |
| bazhang | seems tyrannical but not our issue | 14:58 |
| jussi | I thought lhavelund started -youth... | 14:58 |
| ikonia | this looks a tricky situation | 14:58 |
| ikonia | jussi: acctually, you're right, | 14:58 |
| jussi | michealh isnt a bad guy, just a youngun. (12 or so last time I remember him saying) | 14:59 |
| ikonia | I don't think (from what I'm reading) anyone is saying he's a bad guy, but he won't follow instruction | 14:59 |
| ikonia | which no matter what his age is, if it causes a disruption to the channel will end in tears | 15:00 |
| Seeker` | sounds like someone from #kubuntu | 15:01 |
| Seeker` | cant remember the name though | 15:02 |
| bazhang | don't think its our issue | 15:03 |
| Seeker` | no, but will contiunute with bickering until it is sorted | 15:03 |
| ikonia | that's not good when an op is swearing at people | 15:13 |
| bazhang | indeed not | 15:13 |
| Seeker` | I wonder what the average age of op in -youth is | 15:14 |
| ikonia | not enough I'm guessing | 15:15 |
| Seeker` | could probably do with some weighting towards the right side of 12 | 15:16 |
| Seeker` | anyone else want to lend some thoughts in -irc? | 15:18 |
| bazhang | no | 15:19 |
| ikonia | Seeker`: just pondering | 15:19 |
| ikonia | I don't think the banning op is in a position to be able to ban people | 15:19 |
| ikonia | but clearly don't want to say that | 15:20 |
| Seeker` | I dont think he deserved a ban for what he did | 15:20 |
| Seeker` | sounds like he has been irritiating, but not actually done anything to warrant a ban | 15:20 |
| Seeker` | I reckon lift the ban in 48 hours, on the condition that michealH realises that he may not get assigned all of the projects he wants | 15:21 |
| bazhang | seems like their issue to resolve as none of us are ops in there | 15:22 |
| Seeker` | bazhang: yes, it is | 15:22 |
| Seeker` | but they are kids, and will just go on bickering from here to eternity | 15:22 |
| Seeker` | we are trying to guide them in a sensible direction | 15:22 |
| ikonia | if members are leaving due to this guy being in the channel, there is clearly more than meets the eye | 15:30 |
| Seeker` | -14:32:38- Seeker`: I haven't seen any examples of behaviour that would warrent people leaving the project | 15:34 |
| Seeker` | -14:32:55- zkriesse: Ok first ever meeting of the team. | 15:35 |
| Seeker` | -14:33:26- zkriesse: Micheal got mad as people were discussing his attitude and he starting kick banning people | 15:35 |
| ikonia | he's an op ??? | 15:35 |
| Seeker` | he was, apparently | 15:35 |
| Seeker` | not for a while Ithink | 15:35 |
| bazhang | any reason to post that here? | 15:35 |
| ikonia | we where discussing it | 15:35 |
| Seeker` | so ikonia could see it, and any other op that may be interested | 15:36 |
| bazhang | didn't know that -youth was a core channel | 15:36 |
| ikonia | it's not, we are just discussing it | 15:36 |
| Seeker` | a) It isn't interrupting any ongoing discussion b) They are clearly struggling, some of us here have quite a lot of experience as ops, and want to try and help them | 15:36 |
| Tm_T | it's our duty to help them IMO | 15:37 |
| bazhang | sure. in -irc | 15:37 |
| bazhang | xzil0 wants instructions to break his machine? | 15:40 |
| Seeker` | buffre overflow isn't really "breaking" | 15:42 |
| bazhang | Invalid target: ^^MoYzY^^ strange error when trying to remove that nick | 15:56 |
| ikonia | hi Gerry__ | 16:19 |
| Gerry__ | hi ikonia | 16:22 |
| ikonia | how can we help you | 16:22 |
| Gerry__ | i just came in to thank you guys | 16:22 |
| ikonia | for what ? | 16:22 |
| Gerry__ | for changing my life | 16:22 |
| bazhang | ? | 16:23 |
| ikonia | what are you talking about ? | 16:23 |
| Gerry__ | i used to be a well known troll | 16:23 |
| Gerry__ | but now i am a valued member of the dutch ubuntu community | 16:23 |
| ikonia | yes, we know fujisan | 16:23 |
| ikonia | do you need anything form us ? | 16:23 |
| ikonia | you are well known | 16:23 |
| ikonia | from | 16:23 |
| Gerry__ | nope | 16:23 |
| Gerry__ | may i leave no | 16:23 |
| Gerry__ | w | 16:23 |
| Gerry__ | :) | 16:23 |
| bazhang | yes | 16:23 |
| Gerry__ | and have a nice day | 16:23 |
| Gerry__ | bu bye :) | 16:23 |
| elky | O.... Kay... | 17:30 |
| Mamarok | hm, I have some difficulties to believe Gerry... | 18:05 |
| ikonia | no-one does | 18:05 |
| Mamarok | he has been trolling as Fujisan not so long ago in the KDE channels | 18:06 |
| Mamarok | and apparently is ban-evading, unless somebody lifted the ban on his presence in Freenode | 18:06 |
| ikonia | he was klined go knows how many times | 18:07 |
| Mamarok | yep | 18:07 |
| ikonia | he's got a perm ban in the ubuntu channels | 18:07 |
| Mamarok | ditto for the KDE ones AFAIK | 18:07 |
| ikonia | and he's certainly not a part of ubuntu-nl | 18:07 |
| Mamarok | and of course in #amarok, where he was stalking | 18:07 |
| Seeker` | Nece228: hi, how can we help you? | 18:36 |
| Nece228 | Hi i want to talk with funkyHat, but as i see he's away | 18:37 |
| lhavelund | jussi: I did. | 18:45 |
| IdleOne | !idle | Nece228 | 18:51 |
| ubottu | Nece228: Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only; we ask you to part when you have no further business here in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries. | 18:51 |
| Nece228 | IdleOne: thats why i am here. Ill be back, now i need to make some apple juice | 18:58 |
| Nece228 | Hi funkyHat, can i be unbanned? | 19:39 |
| ikonia | where are you banned ? | 19:57 |
| Nece228 | ubuntu-offtopic | 19:58 |
| ikonia | I see lots of bans/kicks in the logs | 19:58 |
| ikonia | why are you constantly getting banned/kicked ? | 19:58 |
| ikonia | do you understand why you are getting kicked/banned all the time ? | 19:59 |
| ikonia | Nece228: hello ? | 20:01 |
| Nece228 | yes i do | 20:01 |
| ikonia | ok - so why do you keep doing it ? | 20:01 |
| Nece228 | i got two or three kicks in total, and one ban | 20:01 |
| ikonia | you have more kicks | 20:01 |
| ikonia | and it's not about the numbers - more the intent | 20:01 |
| Nece228 | really? | 20:01 |
| ikonia | why do you keep doing it ? | 20:01 |
| Nece228 | i was joking | 20:02 |
| ikonia | but you keep getting kicked for it and told to stop | 20:02 |
| ikonia | why do you keep "joking" | 20:02 |
| Nece228 | but people accept my jokes as trolling | 20:02 |
| Nece228 | its partially true | 20:02 |
| ikonia | ok - so why do you keep doing it | 20:02 |
| Nece228 | ah, i actually never thought that those jokes can lead to ban, i mean i thinked i wont get ban because this message wont be very bad | 20:03 |
| ikonia | you've been kicked/warned enough time | 20:03 |
| ikonia | did that not give you a clue you're not welcome with those "jokes" | 20:03 |
| Nece228 | you see, it was hard to understand all the kicks, because sometimes i even had no serious clue why i was kicked | 20:04 |
| ikonia | yet you've just told me you know/understand why you get kicked | 20:04 |
| ikonia | that's a direct contradiction | 20:04 |
| Nece228 | now i understand | 20:04 |
| Nece228 | in past i didnt | 20:04 |
| ikonia | after what | 20:04 |
| ikonia | what made you understand ? | 20:05 |
| Nece228 | while ubuntu-offtopic is offtopic channel, but i still need to have all the rules in my mind | 20:06 |
| ikonia | this may seem a pointless discussion but I'm reading through the logs of your behaviour and I see nothing positive in it at all | 20:06 |
| ikonia | I see you adding no value to the channel or discussions, just making stupid comments to try to provoke people then getting kicked | 20:06 |
| ikonia | I don't see a reason to allow you to participate in that channel | 20:06 |
| Nece228 | yes i understand that my comments were stupid and kinda provoked a kick | 20:07 |
| Nece228 | and i apologise for that | 20:07 |
| ikonia | I'll leave the ban to funkyhat, but I see no reason to allow you back into the channel as you have a history of these comments, and I don't see a reason to waste the channels time with more of the same | 20:07 |
| Nece228 | listen we all do foults until some serious problems happen, but after that lots of people are good | 20:08 |
| ikonia | yes, however you do a lot of these issues | 20:08 |
| Nece228 | but i do regret | 20:10 |
| Nece228 | come on :( | 20:10 |
| ikonia | you should have regretted a lot sooner | 20:10 |
| ikonia | I'll leave the ban to funkyHat - if it was more straight forward or more an obvious minor issue I'd remove it, | 20:11 |
| Nece228 | when someone gets a ban, its definitely not a minor issue | 20:11 |
| ikonia | however as you have a history of persistantly being an issue in that channel and my view of the log is that you ad no value and just troll the channel with stupid comments, I won't act while funkyHat's not here | 20:11 |
| Nece228 | ok | 20:12 |
| Nece228 | funkyhat said he might unban me in this week ending | 20:12 |
| ikonia | yes, I've read the comment | 20:12 |
| Nece228 | you read private messages? | 20:13 |
| ikonia | no, there is a note in our ban system saying the same thing | 20:13 |
| Nece228 | oh | 20:14 |
| Nece228 | funkyhat is still away :/ | 20:14 |
| ikonia | yes, it looks that way | 20:15 |
| ikonia | Nece228: I suggest you come back later when funkyHat is available | 20:36 |
| Nece228 | yeah i know | 20:36 |
| IdleOne | well if you know, please part | 20:36 |
| Nece228 | oh, so i cant be in this channel without reason? | 20:39 |
| IdleOne | correct | 20:40 |
| Nece228 | then sorry | 20:40 |
| Nece228 | bye | 20:40 |
| topyli | hrm. bantracker items for the sailor above is depressing reading | 22:07 |
| ubottu | In #ubuntu, veryhappy said: ubottu: the problem is "init: ureadahead-other main process (1025)&(1026) terminated with status 4" whats this what can i do? | 22:40 |
| veryhappy | can you please help me? | 22:42 |
| veryhappy | im sorry | 22:43 |
| ubottu | FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (flood (16)) | 22:48 |
| jrib | what are you bots talking about... | 22:49 |
| Flannel | jrib: probably the m m m m m mm m m m m | 22:49 |
| jrib | yeah but he quieted and blocked unidentified users for that :/ | 22:50 |
| Flannel | Just letting us know so we can look into it incase it was part of something larger I imagine | 22:50 |
| ubottu | dominicdinada called the ops in #ubuntu () | 22:51 |
| jrib | Flannel: just seemed weird that the floodbot didn't just quiet the guy until he shutup | 22:54 |
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