[01:36] 01:32:17 < Psi-Jack> !ops WitBier and Hopsa == Known troll. [01:36] -server [01:37] Flannel: IT isn't that strange actually. === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang [05:14] In ubottu, maco said: !obfuscate is Obfuscated swearing is still swearing. Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly. [06:39] In #ubuntu-offtopic, rww said: !mdollar is Ubuntu is spelled "Ubuntu". Microsoft Windows is spelled "Microsoft Windows". Call things by their true names, instead of making up puns that make you and our community look petty. [06:45] !idle | kron|k [06:45] kron|k: Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only; we ask you to part when you have no further business here in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries. [09:02] !ops | kron|k again idle in the channel without being active [09:02] kron|k again idle in the channel without being active: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Tm_T, tritium, elky, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, imbrandon, PriceChild, Madpilot, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, tsimpson, gnomefreak, jussi, topyli, or nhandler! [09:02] ikonia called the ops in #ubuntu-ops (kron|k again idle in the channel without being active) [09:03] I'll look for whatever is forwarding him here and turn it to a straight ban [09:06] ikonia: I changed it to a straight ban [09:06] thank you [09:06] was there a forward that got removed ? [09:07] Can someone please remove kron|k until he is ready to be return and discuss his ban [09:07] ikonia: yes I removed the forward [09:07] cool [09:16] he is apparently idling since 16+ hours [09:17] But has only been here for ~10 hours: there was some cycle that caused the forward to redirect here. [09:19] still way too long IMHO [09:20] wow, 17 minutes since ops call... [09:20] please remove him [09:20] persia: do you see Seeker`'s point from yesterday 17 minutes since an op call [09:21] apparently no ops active, and all teh active ones aren't ops here [09:21] I'd be more convinced if we had any supplicants needing handling in the meantime. [09:21] persia: really ? [09:21] so if a user is doing [09:21] a [09:21] a [09:21] a [09:21] a [09:21] But as I said yesterday, I'm not opposed to more ops here, if there is a need for more coverage. [09:21] a [09:21] a [09:21] a [09:21] a [09:21] a [09:21] a [09:21] ikonia: you will get banned :) [09:21] a [09:21] a [09:22] a [09:22] a [09:22] a [09:22] a [09:22] a [09:22] doesn't look like it [09:22] aa [09:22] as often happens [09:22] I won't [09:22] no-one is here [09:22] 20 minutes since op call... [09:22] it's not urgent as the guy is doing no harm, however it does highlight Seeker`'s point [09:22] yep [09:23] But since we don't have any misbehaving users (except ikonia who is failing to provoke me, and on-topic with the pointless traffic, amusingly), and we don't have any business with which we'd prefer not to be interrupted, I'm just not sure how it matters. [09:23] persia: I'm not trying to provoke you [09:23] I agree that we've exposed a lack of coverage. I'm just not sure that it doesn't happen to be OK this time. [09:24] it's not an issue at this time [09:24] no, I don't see why there is no op reaction after a call, that's the point [09:24] there is no issue [09:24] urgent or not [09:24] Oh. I thought you wanted me to interrupt your [09:24] a [09:24] a [09:24] a [09:24] however I called the ops and no-one responded to it [09:24] ... [09:24] if that HAD have been an issue, it would still be going on [09:24] Agreed. [09:24] likely [09:24] 22 minutes... [09:25] I think we get the point, I'll stop the clock [09:25] there is an issue, the issue is there is a no idling policy in this channel if we let this user idle then we may as well let everybody. [09:25] can't. We all have logs of the op call. [09:25] IdleOne: +1 [09:25] IdleOne: agreed, however it's actually causing an "issue" [09:26] 23 minutes is perhaps slow, but not extremely so, given regular levels of noise in the channel. [09:26] topyli: thank you :) [09:26] thanks topyli [09:31] I've been banned on #ubuntu , but I have no idea why. I haven't even used FreeNode before today. [09:34] @login [09:34] The operation succeeded. [09:34] @btlogin [09:38] I don't see any bans, are you sure? [09:38] Mamarok: 27482 [09:38] hm [09:38] the ban seems to be a little to wide [09:39] time to remove that probably [09:39] it's quite old [09:39] apparently yes [09:39] yeah [09:39] you got it? [09:39] however there are ISP's that are used for serious issues/attacks [09:39] maybe worth checking it's not one of them [09:39] or shall I [09:39] just doing a little research first [09:39] k [09:42] I'm not sure that NuclearStr1der ever understood that the query was being investigated [09:43] ikonia: search padza in BT [09:43] also padxa [09:43] many many ban evasions [09:52] the link dilberto posted is quite offensive [09:52] persia, someone will contact him when a resolution is made [09:52] also his quit message [09:58] Ah cool. I'm glad procedure covers that. [09:59] this is the gnaa troll quit message: Haiti=Mierda [10:00] bazhang, dilberto? [10:00] elky, yes [10:01] i have it in pm, he claims he doesn't know how to set a quit message [10:01] guess we have to wait til he quits again to ban forward here [10:02] makes you wonder how he set it in the first place [10:02] he's lying [10:03] of course [10:06] Hello? [10:06] MichealH, hi [10:07] MichealH, something you needed help with? [10:09] There was something last night [10:10] I came in here [10:10] MichealH, right, -youth? [10:10] Yes [10:10] MichealH, wrong channel. try #ubuntu-irc [10:10] kay [10:11] Thanks fro the help [10:11] MichealH, welcome [10:13] * [ramnepal] (~prabinmet@151.83.186.91): prabinmetals how can he get past that ban every time? [10:14] *prabinmet*!*@* [10:21] because you're puting "prabinmet" in the wrong place? [10:23] *!*prabinmet@* and *prabinmet!* are two other examples I see in the ban list [10:26] find a staffer then I guess [10:26] well both seem to be in use, just experiment I guess === apache2logger is now known as apachelogger [13:12] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (repeated abuse from Akaruz) [13:38] sebsebseb called the ops in #ubuntu (seekalana) [13:40] * marienz isn't sure what to make of seekalana [13:41] no idea [13:41] as far as I can work out, they were silent for ages, then just went pop [14:28] hello MichealH [14:28] Hi [14:28] how can we help you ? [14:28] I am not too sure about asking in IRC personally [14:29] asking what ? [14:29] MichealH, about -youth? [14:29] here are people who were involved last night in there and I dont want them to know [14:29] *there [14:29] bazhang: Yes [14:29] am I missing something ? [14:29] MichealH, its #ubuntu-irc not here. [14:29] ikonia, he has the wrong channel [14:29] you told him that earlier though didn't you ? [14:30] MichealH, I told you this earlier. this channel has nothing to do with that [14:30] Its just there are people in there who I dont want to know [14:30] MichealH, #ubuntu-irc please, not here [14:30] Can it be done via PM in there? [14:30] MichealH, up to you. [14:30] MichealH: who do you not wish to talk to? [14:30] MichealH: talk in the channel, once an operator responds, ask them to talk in a pm [14:30] Okay Thanks [14:31] Seeker`: The people involved... I dont want them to see [14:31] Well, they are the ops of -youth? [14:31] Yes [14:31] ikonia, yes, he's been told 3 times now [14:31] I will be going now [14:31] they kinda have to be involved if you are looking towards being unbanned [14:31] Thanks anyway [14:32] how does he think he will be unbanned without the -youth ops knowing? [14:32] no idea [14:32] -irc is where things are worked out though, not here. [14:43] oooo jungli ? [14:56] ikonia, looked like it was jungli [14:56] it did to me [14:57] oh dear [14:57] where? [14:57] in #ubuntu [14:57] but not %100 [14:57] nick? [14:57] marienz: could I have a momant of your time? [14:57] oooo [14:57] wait, the guy who started -youth is now banned from it? [14:57] that doesn't make sense [14:58] jussi: sure [14:58] seems tyrannical but not our issue [14:58] I thought lhavelund started -youth... [14:58] this looks a tricky situation [14:58] jussi: acctually, you're right, [14:59] michealh isnt a bad guy, just a youngun. (12 or so last time I remember him saying) [14:59] I don't think (from what I'm reading) anyone is saying he's a bad guy, but he won't follow instruction [15:00] which no matter what his age is, if it causes a disruption to the channel will end in tears [15:01] sounds like someone from #kubuntu [15:02] cant remember the name though [15:03] don't think its our issue [15:03] no, but will contiunute with bickering until it is sorted [15:13] that's not good when an op is swearing at people [15:13] indeed not [15:14] I wonder what the average age of op in -youth is [15:15] not enough I'm guessing [15:16] could probably do with some weighting towards the right side of 12 [15:18] anyone else want to lend some thoughts in -irc? [15:19] no [15:19] Seeker`: just pondering [15:19] I don't think the banning op is in a position to be able to ban people [15:20] but clearly don't want to say that [15:20] I dont think he deserved a ban for what he did [15:20] sounds like he has been irritiating, but not actually done anything to warrant a ban [15:21] I reckon lift the ban in 48 hours, on the condition that michealH realises that he may not get assigned all of the projects he wants [15:22] seems like their issue to resolve as none of us are ops in there [15:22] bazhang: yes, it is [15:22] but they are kids, and will just go on bickering from here to eternity [15:22] we are trying to guide them in a sensible direction [15:30] if members are leaving due to this guy being in the channel, there is clearly more than meets the eye [15:34] -14:32:38- Seeker`: I haven't seen any examples of behaviour that would warrent people leaving the project [15:35] -14:32:55- zkriesse: Ok first ever meeting of the team. [15:35] -14:33:26- zkriesse: Micheal got mad as people were discussing his attitude and he starting kick banning people [15:35] he's an op ??? [15:35] he was, apparently [15:35] not for a while Ithink [15:35] any reason to post that here? [15:35] we where discussing it [15:36] so ikonia could see it, and any other op that may be interested [15:36] didn't know that -youth was a core channel [15:36] it's not, we are just discussing it [15:36] a) It isn't interrupting any ongoing discussion b) They are clearly struggling, some of us here have quite a lot of experience as ops, and want to try and help them [15:37] it's our duty to help them IMO [15:37] sure. in -irc [15:40] xzil0 wants instructions to break his machine? [15:42] buffre overflow isn't really "breaking" [15:56] Invalid target: ^^MoYzY^^ strange error when trying to remove that nick [16:19] hi Gerry__ [16:22] hi ikonia [16:22] how can we help you [16:22] i just came in to thank you guys [16:22] for what ? [16:22] for changing my life [16:23] ? [16:23] what are you talking about ? [16:23] i used to be a well known troll [16:23] but now i am a valued member of the dutch ubuntu community [16:23] yes, we know fujisan [16:23] do you need anything form us ? [16:23] you are well known [16:23] from [16:23] nope [16:23] may i leave no [16:23] w [16:23] :) [16:23] yes [16:23] and have a nice day [16:23] bu bye :) [17:30] O.... Kay... [18:05] hm, I have some difficulties to believe Gerry... [18:05] no-one does [18:06] he has been trolling as Fujisan not so long ago in the KDE channels [18:06] and apparently is ban-evading, unless somebody lifted the ban on his presence in Freenode [18:07] he was klined go knows how many times [18:07] yep [18:07] he's got a perm ban in the ubuntu channels [18:07] ditto for the KDE ones AFAIK [18:07] and he's certainly not a part of ubuntu-nl [18:07] and of course in #amarok, where he was stalking [18:36] Nece228: hi, how can we help you? [18:37] Hi i want to talk with funkyHat, but as i see he's away [18:45] jussi: I did. [18:51] !idle | Nece228 [18:51] Nece228: Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only; we ask you to part when you have no further business here in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries. [18:58] IdleOne: thats why i am here. Ill be back, now i need to make some apple juice [19:39] Hi funkyHat, can i be unbanned? [19:57] where are you banned ? [19:58] ubuntu-offtopic [19:58] I see lots of bans/kicks in the logs [19:58] why are you constantly getting banned/kicked ? [19:59] do you understand why you are getting kicked/banned all the time ? [20:01] Nece228: hello ? [20:01] yes i do [20:01] ok - so why do you keep doing it ? [20:01] i got two or three kicks in total, and one ban [20:01] you have more kicks [20:01] and it's not about the numbers - more the intent [20:01] really? [20:01] why do you keep doing it ? [20:02] i was joking [20:02] but you keep getting kicked for it and told to stop [20:02] why do you keep "joking" [20:02] but people accept my jokes as trolling [20:02] its partially true [20:02] ok - so why do you keep doing it [20:03] ah, i actually never thought that those jokes can lead to ban, i mean i thinked i wont get ban because this message wont be very bad [20:03] you've been kicked/warned enough time [20:03] did that not give you a clue you're not welcome with those "jokes" [20:04] you see, it was hard to understand all the kicks, because sometimes i even had no serious clue why i was kicked [20:04] yet you've just told me you know/understand why you get kicked [20:04] that's a direct contradiction [20:04] now i understand [20:04] in past i didnt [20:04] after what [20:05] what made you understand ? [20:06] while ubuntu-offtopic is offtopic channel, but i still need to have all the rules in my mind [20:06] this may seem a pointless discussion but I'm reading through the logs of your behaviour and I see nothing positive in it at all [20:06] I see you adding no value to the channel or discussions, just making stupid comments to try to provoke people then getting kicked [20:06] I don't see a reason to allow you to participate in that channel [20:07] yes i understand that my comments were stupid and kinda provoked a kick [20:07] and i apologise for that [20:07] I'll leave the ban to funkyhat, but I see no reason to allow you back into the channel as you have a history of these comments, and I don't see a reason to waste the channels time with more of the same [20:08] listen we all do foults until some serious problems happen, but after that lots of people are good [20:08] yes, however you do a lot of these issues [20:10] but i do regret [20:10] come on :( [20:10] you should have regretted a lot sooner [20:11] I'll leave the ban to funkyHat - if it was more straight forward or more an obvious minor issue I'd remove it, [20:11] when someone gets a ban, its definitely not a minor issue [20:11] however as you have a history of persistantly being an issue in that channel and my view of the log is that you ad no value and just troll the channel with stupid comments, I won't act while funkyHat's not here [20:12] ok [20:12] funkyhat said he might unban me in this week ending [20:12] yes, I've read the comment [20:13] you read private messages? [20:13] no, there is a note in our ban system saying the same thing [20:14] oh [20:14] funkyhat is still away :/ [20:15] yes, it looks that way [20:36] Nece228: I suggest you come back later when funkyHat is available [20:36] yeah i know [20:36] well if you know, please part [20:39] oh, so i cant be in this channel without reason? [20:40] correct [20:40] then sorry [20:40] bye [22:07] hrm. bantracker items for the sailor above is depressing reading [22:40] In #ubuntu, veryhappy said: ubottu: the problem is "init: ureadahead-other main process (1025)&(1026) terminated with status 4" whats this what can i do? [22:42] can you please help me? [22:43] im sorry [22:48] FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (flood (16)) [22:49] what are you bots talking about... [22:49] jrib: probably the m m m m m mm m m m m [22:50] yeah but he quieted and blocked unidentified users for that :/ [22:50] Just letting us know so we can look into it incase it was part of something larger I imagine [22:51] dominicdinada called the ops in #ubuntu () [22:54] Flannel: just seemed weird that the floodbot didn't just quiet the guy until he shutup