[00:00] <ScottK> Hopsa: Why do you think all of Ubuntu server is my personal problem?
[00:00] <ScottK> I agree it's bad, just not that I'm required to be the one that fixes it.
[00:01] <Hopsa> You tried to defend "n0a1ias" and then you started talking to me.
[00:02] <Hopsa> n0a1ias is at best a bot at worst a failed experiment to code a bot.
[00:02] <n0a1ias> what?
[00:02] <n0a1ias> no
[00:02] <n0a1ias> im not a bot
[00:02] <Hopsa> 1/3 = ?
[00:03] <n0a1ias> 1 sec
[00:03] <Hopsa> ok
[00:03] <n0a1ias> 0.3333333333
[00:03] <n0a1ias> repeating
[00:04] <n0a1ias> im sorry i was mean, but wow.
[00:04] <n0a1ias> jear
[00:04] <n0a1ias> jerk**
[00:05] <Hopsa> 3,1592 ... is ?
[00:05] <n0a1ias> pie
[00:05] <n0a1ias> waitno
[00:05] <n0a1ias> a number?
[00:05] <n0a1ias> idk the question
[00:05] <Hopsa> 3.141592653589793... ?
[00:06] <Hopsa> Its PI
[00:06] <n0a1ias> oh, the missing 4 threw me off
[00:06] <Hopsa> lol
[00:07] <n0a1ias> so yea
[00:07] <n0a1ias> not a bot
[00:08] <Hopsa> If you scroll up and explain why i could have thought you're then i can accept any outcome of this discussion :)
[00:08] <n0a1ias> yea i just did
[00:09] <n0a1ias> hah
[00:09] <Hopsa> Accepted
[00:09] <Hopsa> Where in europe do you live, what country ?
[00:10] <n0a1ias> USA....
[00:11] <Hopsa> North or south ?
[00:16] <Hopsa> So what ive learned about #ubuntu-server so far is this: ScottK thinks dhcpd is: "It's not a package I personally pay a lot of attention to". n0alias likes the shiny shiny colors (joking) and the rest of the channel is out partying ?
[00:16] <n0a1ias> south
[00:17] <Hopsa> Thanks!
[00:17] <n0a1ias> yep
[00:17] <n0a1ias> haha
[00:18] <Hopsa> n0a1ias: Is it always this quiet here ?
[00:18] <n0a1ias> yea
[00:18] <n0a1ias> unfortunitly
[00:21] <Hopsa> I feel that some shouldnt be here at all given that regard and respect it deserves. Do you require new staff ?
[00:25] <Hopsa> Its very important to care. Am i right ?
[00:58] <Hopsa> ScottK: Correct me if im wrong, but arent you a member of ubuntu and you just said that you dont give a shit about servers in ubuntu but are located in #ubuntu-server ? /What kind of "member are you" ?
[00:58] <Psi-Jack> Ahhh.. Hopsa. A known troll.
[01:00] <Hopsa> Really ? Please provide intel on this ?
[01:01] <Psi-Jack> Lets see.. moatbuilder, Dionysos, Manjula, Ballefjon, Jusfication, Melkerscrollan, even GayAnankePsi.
[01:01] <Hopsa> What ?
[01:02] <Psi-Jack> Always coming from that VERY specific IP you're on now, plus ip-*-*-179-93.dialup.ice.net
[01:02] <IdleOne> Psi-Jack: you forgot bermanrules
[01:02] <Hopsa> [Hopsa] anthony.freenode.net :Irvine, CA, USA
[01:02] <Hopsa> * [Hopsa] is connecting from *@h156n2fls32o256.telia.com 81.231.133.156
[01:02] <Psi-Jack> IdleOne: I haven't logged that one yet apparently.
[01:02] <Hopsa> ???
[01:03] <Hopsa> psi-jack: ?
[01:03] <Psi-Jack> Cut the crap, troll.
[01:04] <Hopsa> Thanks then i guess. How rude.
[01:04] <Psi-Jack> Anyway.
[01:05] <Psi-Jack> I found an issue with Ubuntu 10.04's lsb/init-functions that might should be looked into. Basically when using status_of_proc -p PIDFILE DAEMON, it passes it to pidofproc which cares nothing for DAEMON if -p PIDFILE is given so if the PIDFILE doesn't exist it returns rc=4 instead of checking the pidof DAEMON and determining if it's actually running regardless of the pidfile.
[01:06] <Psi-Jack> Kinda breaks LSB a bit by returning rc=4 when it could in fact return 0 or 3 as expected.
[01:08] <Hopsa> PIDFILE=`cat Location_Of_Pidfile` has worked the best and is the recommended aquireing of PIDS for programs
[01:08] <Psi-Jack> Hopsa: Shut it already.
[01:09] <Psi-Jack> My fix for it was to alter line 94 of lsb/init-functions to: if [ -x /bin/pidof -a -n "$1" ]; then  -- So if DAEMON is passed to it, it assumes since it's already shifted $OPTIN, that it at least has a daemon name.
[01:10] <Psi-Jack> That whole check for $specified is really kinda lame. ;)
[01:12]  * Hopsa Has nothing to say and i bet your question will go unanswered.
[01:13] <kuttan_> Have a bad package entry in my systems apt database, and the name persists despite the removal  of the package . How can I get rid of this entry
[01:16] <kuttan_> synaptic show post_install script failure ..
[01:21] <kuttan_> Have a bad package entry in my systems apt database, and the name persists despite the removal  of the package . How can I get rid of this entry
[01:21] <kuttan_> synaptic show post_install script failure ..
[01:22] <Psi-Jack> And.. Why... prey tell... Are you running synaptic on a server?
[01:23] <kuttan_> okay that was not required , but yet ..
[01:23] <Psi-Jack> synaptic means you're running X, which means you're not running a server.
[01:24] <Psi-Jack> Or, if you are, you're stupid crazy for running X on a server.
[01:24] <kuttan_> ?
[01:25] <Hopsa> psi is trolling
[01:25] <Psi-Jack> No, Hopsa, you still are.
[01:25] <kuttan_> k thanks for you kind contribution
[01:25] <Psi-Jack> kuttan_: You need #ubuntu
[01:28] <WitBier> Smoked too much again Psi-Jack ?
[01:28] <Psi-Jack> Told ya.
[01:28] <WitBier> Idiot
[01:28]  * Psi-Jack gets freenode staff.
[01:28] <WitBier> Please try to behave sir
[01:32] <Psi-Jack> !ops WitBier and Hopsa == Known troll.
[01:34] <kuttan_> k some other time , thanks all
[01:46] <Psi-Jack> heh, so anyway. I only have a couple issues left to resolve with my pacemaker + drbd + dlm + clvmd + IPaddr2 + iSCSI stuff.
[01:50] <biodegabriel> Heyall, Does anybody know of a good tutorial on setting Postfix with Ubuntu 10.04? The ones at help.ubuntu.com are way way too wordy and complicated.
[01:51] <Psi-Jack> and, what exactly are you trying to do with postfix?
[01:51] <Hopsa> http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html
[01:51] <Psi-Jack> biodegabriel: And https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix is too wordy and complicated?
[01:51] <biodegabriel> thx Hopsa!
[01:51] <Hopsa> biodegabriel: Np!
[01:52] <biodegabriel> Psi-Jack: I was using this one "https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/postfix.html" and it started explaining stuff about paying Certificate Authorities to certify you... I was like... WTF?!
[01:53] <Psi-Jack> That looks about the same thing.
[01:53] <Psi-Jack> Still.. Not very complicated, compared to past documentation basic guides. :p
[01:54] <biodegabriel> Psi-Jack: Step 2 sends you to another page where they lecture you on certiifcates.
[01:54] <Psi-Jack> Which you don't have to follow that part. :p
[01:55] <biodegabriel> Psi-Jack: Yeah, but the "note"s come after the instructions. It's totally a-linear. Not what I need in instructions/tutorials.
[01:55] <Psi-Jack> Instead, the alternative, creating a self-signed certficiate, or flat-out skipping the sections 2-4
[01:55] <biodegabriel> Psi-Jack: Want to setup my Postfix install for me?
[01:55] <Psi-Jack> Nope
[01:56] <Psi-Jack> I want you to RTFM and follow it as it's written because that guide is actually really fricken nice. :)
[01:56] <biodegabriel> Psi-Jack: Nice for people who've installed Postfix 12 times before. Not for n00bs like me.
[01:57] <Psi-Jack> Actually, it's exactly for "n00bs" like you.
[01:57] <biodegabriel> Psi-Jack: How many users pay for certified certificates?
[01:58] <Psi-Jack> biodegabriel: Millions. However you don't need to get a certified certificate, or even follow the steps 2-4, as I've said already.
[01:58] <biodegabriel> Psi-Jack: If only you were sitting beside me ten minutes ago...
[01:58] <Psi-Jack> You wouldn't want that. ;)
[01:59] <Psi-Jack> I uses a sheleighly on my students. ;)
[02:00] <Hopsa> Shenanigan ?
[02:21] <Hopsa> A very funny game i played --- Monkey Bubble --- Absolutely love it, check it out!
[02:25] <Hopsa> uvirtbot: *__GI_abort () at abort.c:92 is not aborted properly you say ? ;)
[02:26] <Hopsa> Interresting /yawn
[02:26] <Hopsa> Now thats interresting, Married with children is on! :)
[02:33] <biodegabriel> Hey all, How do i find out if I have have sendmail installed? (I'm not joking, i really don't know).
[02:34] <gtpeacock> I just installed 10.04 server.  One partition is mounted on installation as type ntfs in fstab.  Is there any reason not to use ntfs-3g?
[02:37] <pmatulis> biodegabriel: use dpkg to query what's installed or just look for the sendmail binary
[02:37] <biodegabriel> pmatulis: thx
[02:37] <pmatulis> biodegabriel: 'dpkg -l *sendmail*' or 'which sendmail'
[02:38] <pmatulis> respectively
[02:38] <biodegabriel> pmatulis: i was typing 'sendmail which'. LOL
[02:38] <pmatulis> hmmm, a sendmail witch, nasty thing
[02:50] <Hopsa> biodegabriel: ls /usr/sbin/sendmail
[02:50] <Hopsa> Install sendmail-cf if you intend to use it.
[02:51] <biodegabriel> Hopsa: cool
[02:51] <Hopsa> :)
[03:37] <WinstonSmith> hi everybody. my server 8.04 wont reboot anymore. i give it a reboot or shutdown -r now and just nothing happens... i get the message that it will reboot but nothing
[03:38] <dschuett> anyone running squid on 10.04?
[03:38] <WinstonSmith> which log should i look at?
[03:39] <progre55> hi guys! anyone knows if "setfacl" works on ubuntu?
[03:41] <Hopsa> WinstonSmith: I would urge you to upgrade because ive seen indications on that 8.04 isnt prioritized anymore. An odd decition, but nevertheless perhaps a fact.
[03:43] <Hopsa> WinstonSmith: If you run servers and they work ok, then upgrading atm isnt a good option if you rely on a dhcp server as the one in Ubuntu Lucid isnt working as far as i can tell.
[03:43] <WinstonSmith> Hopsa, thx for responding. the server belongs to a friend of mine and runs a website blog etc and he does not want to upgrade without me being there and thats 3000 km away :(
[03:43] <Hopsa> httpd is ok
[03:43] <Hopsa> in Lucid
[03:44] <WinstonSmith> yes but can you tell me anything about my question plz?
[03:44] <pmatulis> 8.04 server will receive security fixes and critical fixes until April 2013
[03:45] <WinstonSmith> cause i just upgraded the kernel and then tried a "reboot" (uptime was 100 days) and it just doesnt reboot
[03:45] <WinstonSmith> which log this kind of command would be logged to?
[03:45] <WinstonSmith> yes 8.04 is LTS thats why we chose it
[03:46] <Hopsa> WinstonSmith: I do know that one of my friends Ubuntu-8.04 Firefox stopped working. Perhaps due to an upgrade he did, but the result was he had no browser anymore. "ns_loginit()" problem, possibly due to different versions of xulrunnel.
[03:47] <Hopsa> "shutdown -h now" ?
[03:47] <WinstonSmith> Hopsa, yes but im talking about a headless server no GUI or FF
[03:47] <Hopsa> "shutdown -r now" ?
[03:47] <Hopsa> -r     Requests  that  the system be rebooted after it has been brought
[03:47] <Hopsa>               down.
[03:48] <WinstonSmith> Hopsa,  as i said above "shutdown -h now" or reboot produce the message that system is going down for reboot and then nothing happens
[03:48] <WinstonSmith> reboot just being an alias to  "shutdown -h now"
[03:48] <Hopsa> Yep
[03:49] <Hopsa> or ... -r now
[03:49] <WinstonSmith>  i have no entry in dmesg or /var/log/messages related to my reboot try
[03:49] <Hopsa> -h means shut down or (halt)
[03:49] <WinstonSmith> oh yeah typo sry
[03:49] <Hopsa> np
[03:50] <Hopsa> So, nothing happens ?
[03:50] <WinstonSmith> is there any other log that i could look at ... this behavior is really strange
[03:50] <Hopsa> also check /var/log/secure
[03:51] <WinstonSmith> the machine had a load of 3x for weeks cause we had a runaway msql and a gameserver who ate all resources ... maybe related to that?
[03:51] <EvilPhoenix> lol
[03:52] <WinstonSmith> i have no /var/log/secure
[03:52] <EvilPhoenix> is there a way to see how you're doing on disc space on VPS systems in openvz?
[03:52] <Hopsa> ls /var/log
[03:52] <WinstonSmith> yes i just moved from portugal to germany so i wasnt really on top of things ... no internet
[03:52] <Hopsa> some dists call it "security" etc
[03:52] <WinstonSmith> yes i know
[03:53] <Hopsa> reboot it and see if setjmp will work correctly then.
[03:53] <WinstonSmith> nothing with that name around
[03:54] <dschuett> does anyone run squid on ubuntu 10.04
[03:54] <Hopsa> Yep
[03:55] <biodegabriel> Hey all, What do I do when a package I'm trying to install can't be found? Do I try another source? http://pastie.org/1121778
[03:57] <Hopsa> dschuett: squid-2.7STABLE7
[03:57] <dschuett> Hopsa: does it run ok?
[03:58] <dschuett> i can't stop start or reload, i get this: reload: Unknown instance:
[03:58] <Hopsa> Yes, but watch out for the switch to Squid 3. Then you must remove acl "all" because its been built in.
[03:58] <Hopsa> For some unknown reason.
[03:59] <dschuett> ah, ok thanks for the heads up
[03:59] <Hopsa> Np. Stop it then start it... ?
[03:59] <dschuett> Hopsa: when i do a squid stop...i get: squid is already running!
[03:59] <dschuett> same with start and reload
[04:00] <Hopsa> Hmm, hmm...
[04:00] <Hopsa> killall -9 squid
[04:00] <dschuett> if i do this: /etc/init.d/squid reload stop or start i get unknown instance
[04:01] <Hopsa> it could have a lingering .lock file in /var/lock/squid.lock or so
[04:01] <Hopsa> Perhaps due to a powerfailure or so
[04:02] <dschuett> Hopsa: that killed it...i was able to start it, but on squid stop or reload it says "squid is already running!"
[04:02] <dschuett> are you on ubuntu 10.04?
[04:02] <Hopsa> Yes, i have one of those running beside me
[04:02] <WinstonSmith> anyone else an idea why shutdown -r now does not work anymore?
[04:03] <dschuett> damn, i googled the error, and a lot of people are having this issue...but no solutions
[04:03] <EvilPhoenix> you tried shutdown -h?
[04:03] <EvilPhoenix> er
[04:03] <EvilPhoenix> nevermind
[04:04] <EvilPhoenix> ah to restart
[04:04] <EvilPhoenix> one sec
[04:04] <Hopsa> dschuett: Try to start and stop squid manually and see if its the scripts that call squid the wrong way.
[04:04] <Hopsa> call = try to start
[04:04] <WinstonSmith> EvilPhoenix, i have to reboot the server is offsite ~3000km away :|
[04:05] <Hopsa> I wonder if winston could signal the init process to make a reboot somehow...
[04:06] <EvilPhoenix> shutdown -r worked for me on both my servers
[04:06] <dschuett> Hopsa: not sure how to do what you are asking
[04:06] <EvilPhoenix> not sure if its just your system
[04:06] <EvilPhoenix> WinstonSmith:  ^
[04:07] <Hopsa> Init should have a process id of "1". Does it have that winston ?
[04:07] <WinstonSmith> EvilPhoenix, the server is running fine for 2.5 years. every 2 month or so i make all the updates and reboot. never had a single problem wiith it rocksolid :)
[04:07] <WinstonSmith> hopsa 1 sec
[04:08] <WinstonSmith> yes it does
[04:08] <Hopsa> dschuett: Your scripts try to start and stop servers one way, perhaps they are not doing it correctly. Try stopping squid and then starting it manually. "squid -k start" maybe (cant remeber atm)
[04:10] <Hopsa> squid -k reconfigure | rotate | shutdown | interrupt | kill | debug | check |
[04:10] <Hopsa>        parse
[04:11] <Hopsa> squid -k shutdown && squid
[04:11] <dschuett> k, did that
[04:11] <Hopsa> squid -k shutdown && squid || echo "I have failed to stop and start squid"
[04:11] <Hopsa> Worked ok ?
[04:11] <Hopsa> then id suspect the sysinit script
[04:12] <dschuett> yeah, it killed it
[04:12] <Hopsa> and started ok ?
[04:12] <dschuett> just try squid start?
[04:12] <Hopsa> k
[04:12] <dschuett> says squid is already running
[04:13] <dschuett> any easy way to upgrade to 3.0?
[04:16] <biodegabriel> Hopsa: Do you know what I'm doing wrong here? http://pastie.org/1121802
[04:17] <Hopsa> dschuett: use the debian versions
[04:17] <Hopsa> checking
[04:17] <Hopsa> isnt itr libsasl ? ... use a "*" if unsure
[04:18] <WinstonSmith> biodegabriel, do you have all the repos enabled?
[04:18] <Hopsa> itr/it
[04:18] <Hopsa> bbiaw
[04:18] <WinstonSmith> cause my apt-cache gives me libgsasl7 - GNU SASL library
[04:19] <biodegabriel> WinstonSmith: here are my repos: http://pastie.org/1121808
[04:22] <pmatulis> biodegabriel: just what are you trying to do?
[04:22] <WinstonSmith> biodegabriel, hmmm thats really strange because the package is in the universe repos which you have enabled
[04:22] <biodegabriel> pmatulis: install mailutils. i'm following this tutorial: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto
[04:24] <pmatulis> biodegabriel: your answer doesn't correspond to what you just pastebin'd
[04:25] <pmatulis> (libgsasl)
[04:25] <biodegabriel> pmatulis: i know, but when i try and install mailutils, it installs some other packages, one of which is libgsasl, and that's the one that fails.
[04:25] <pmatulis> biodegabriel: did you provide that error output?
[04:26] <biodegabriel> pmatulis: yup http://pastie.org/1121778
[04:28] <pmatulis> biodegabriel: error shows astromirror.uchicago.edu but your system shows mirror.ne.gov
[04:28] <Hopsa> INSTALL this first: http://altruistic.lbl.gov/mirrors/ubuntu/pool/universe/g/gsasl/libgsasl7_1.4.4-1ubuntu1_amd64.deb
[04:29] <WinstonSmith> so does anybody else an idea on how to reboot a machine if reboot, shutdown -r and init 6 dont work?
[04:29] <pmatulis> WinstonSmith: try 'reboot'
[04:29] <WinstonSmith> pmatulis, please read my msg
[04:30] <pmatulis> WinstonSmith: oh
[04:30] <WinstonSmith> ;)
[04:30] <pmatulis> 'shutdown -r now' ?
[04:30] <pmatulis> biodegabriel: well?
[04:31] <WinstonSmith> pmatulis, in my msg i said : reboot, shutdown -r and init 6 dont work
[04:31] <biodegabriel> pmatulis: just a sec.
[04:31] <pmatulis> WinstonSmith: but not 'shutdown -r now'
[04:31] <WinstonSmith> yes but thats just the timer
[04:32] <pmatulis> WinstonSmith: try it then
[04:32] <WinstonSmith> i tried all that for quite some time now.... thats wjy im asking
[04:32] <WinstonSmith> why*
[04:32] <WinstonSmith> if theres any other way to reboot
[04:33] <pmatulis> WinstonSmith: any output from these commands?
[04:33] <WinstonSmith> i give it a reboot or shutdown -r now and just nothing happens... i get the message that it will reboot but nothing
[04:33] <WinstonSmith> no entry in dmesg or /var/log/messages
[04:33] <biodegabriel> sorry pmatulis, i'm doing something wrong. is this the right command? http://pastie.org/1121824
[04:33] <pmatulis> WinstonSmith: anything in the logs?
[04:33] <WinstonSmith> no entry in dmesg or /var/log/messages
[04:34] <WinstonSmith> is there any other log you could point me to?
[04:34] <pmatulis> biodegabriel: your're thrashing, please stop
[04:34] <pmatulis> WinstonSmith: type 'dmesg'
[04:34] <biodegabriel> thrashing?
[04:35] <Hopsa> WinstonSmith: "reboot -f" ?
[04:35] <Hopsa> force
[04:35] <WinstonSmith> Hopsa, ok will try that
[04:35] <pmatulis> biodegabriel: answer my question re discrepency between your sources.list file and the error output
[04:37] <biodegabriel> pmatulis: i was using another source cause i tried 4 other ones and they all said that the package couldn't be found. should i edit my sources list everytime i want to try a different source?
[04:37] <pmatulis> biodegabriel: just stop thrashing like that.  use the official mirrors
[04:37] <WinstonSmith> Hopsa, thats seems to have helped :D. i have to wait a bit now to see because it will fsck at boot and has over 2 TB so takes some time
[04:38] <biodegabriel> pmatulis: what are the official mirrors? i got my mirrors from this list https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[04:38] <WinstonSmith> Hopsa, pmatulis thank you for your time & have a nice day (or night whereever you are)
[04:38] <Hopsa> WinstonSmith: May the force be with you, always! ... Ill wait until it comes up, gotta go catch some shut eye myself :)
[04:38] <Hopsa> Np!
[04:39] <WinstonSmith> i am your father luke!!!
[04:39] <Hopsa> Haha! :)
[04:40] <WinstonSmith> Hopsa, since you ate still here... ;) do you have a clue what caused this kind of behavior?
[04:41] <WinstonSmith> are*
[04:41] <Hopsa> Maybe /dev/initctl was hosed by something. Its what i can come up with atm.
[04:42] <pmatulis> biodegabriel: use archive.ubuntu.com for now
[04:42] <pmatulis> WinstonSmith: did dmesg command show anything?
[04:42] <biodegabriel> pmatulis: OK
[04:42] <Hopsa> You can test that later by removing it and trying to reboot. Perhaps some other device file could also do it.
[04:43] <biodegabriel> pmatulis: i had stopped using it cause it was taking hours to download packages....
[04:43] <WinstonSmith> pmatulis, no thats what i found really odd. it gave the : the system will reboot now! msg and then nothing... fell into the black hole
[04:43] <pmatulis> biodegabriel: pastebin your edited file
[04:43] <pmatulis> WinstonSmith: odd, never seen that
[04:44] <WinstonSmith> pmatulis, me nether in all my linux life
[04:44] <biodegabriel> pmatulis: http://pastie.org/1121839
[04:44] <WinstonSmith> pmatulis, i thought that it was related to the heavy load the machine had in the last weeks?
[04:44] <pmatulis> biodegabriel: anything under /etc/apt/sources.list.d ?  if so, pastebin it's contents
[04:45] <biodegabriel> pmatulis: http://pastie.org/1121843
[04:46] <WinstonSmith> success : 04:45:36 up 9 min,  1 user,  load average: 0.00, 0.21, 0.19
[04:46] <Hopsa> mknod -m 622 /var/new-dist/dev/console c 5 1
[04:46] <Hopsa> mknod -m 666 /var/new-dist/dev/ptmx c 5 2
[04:46] <Hopsa> chown root:tty /var/new-dist/dev/{console,ptmx,tty}
[04:46] <WinstonSmith> thank you all for your time !
[04:46] <pmatulis> biodegabriel: ok, now 'sudo apt-get clean'
[04:46] <Hopsa> switch /var/new-dist for /dev/*
[04:46] <biodegabriel> pmatulis: done
[04:46] <pmatulis> now 'sudo apt-get update'
[04:47] <Hopsa> Laters!
[04:47] <biodegabriel> pmatulis: it fetched 24 packages
[04:47] <WinstonSmith> Hopsa, wish u a good shut-eye & cya :D
[04:47] <pmatulis> now 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[04:47] <pmatulis> biodegabriel: ^^
[04:48] <biodegabriel> pmatulis: "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 37 not upgraded."
[04:48] <pmatulis> biodegabriel: now 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[04:49] <biodegabriel> pmatulis: working......
[04:49] <biodegabriel> pmatulis: 37 upgraded
[04:49] <pmatulis> biodegabriel: now 'sudo apt-get --reinstall install mailutils'
[04:50] <biodegabriel> pmatulis: perfect! so changing my sources was messing everything up? is that what's called "thrashing"?
[04:51] <pmatulis> biodegabriel: thrashing refers to trying anything in the hopes that it will work, going berzerk really
[04:51] <biodegabriel> pmatulis: you haven't seen me thrash then... :D
[04:52] <pmatulis> biodegabriel: so you're all set?
[04:52] <biodegabriel> pmatulis: thanks for your help. i can keep on with my postfix setup now. what was i doing wrong, though, specifically?
[04:52] <biodegabriel> wrong source?
[04:53] <pmatulis> biodegabriel: i don't know  :)  maybe didn't update your package index?
[04:54] <biodegabriel> pmatulis: you mean i needed to do "apt-get update"?
[04:54] <pmatulis> biodegabriel: yes
[04:54] <pmatulis> biodegabriel: but the other commands could have played a role too
[04:55] <pmatulis> biodegabriel: (cleaning out your cache)
[04:55] <pmatulis> biodegabriel: the general package upgrade
[04:55] <pmatulis> biodegabriel: i don't see anything  :)
[04:56] <biodegabriel> pmatulis: cool, thanks again. i nearly drowned there.
[04:56] <pmatulis> biodegabriel: nice. keep on truckin' - and good night
[04:56] <biodegabriel> pmatulis: night
[05:30] <Andre_Gondim> how may I change the hostname of my server?
[05:31] <Andre_Gondim> hmm I used hostname command
[05:31] <WinstonSmith> any experiences with upgrading 8.04 to 10.04 while SSH'ing into the box?
[05:33] <WinstonSmith> because do-release-upgrade throws a big fat warning that it shouldnt be done over SSH but how do you do it if the box is offsite?
[05:42] <strax> I got that warning, did it anyway
[05:42] <strax> 9.10 to 10.04
[05:42] <strax> worked fine
[05:44] <WinstonSmith> strax, no problems at all? did you had to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[05:45] <strax> No, but again I was just doing one release to the next, not lts to lts
[05:45] <WinstonSmith> because the box is ~3000 km away a bit far to plug in a monitor and KB ;)
[05:45] <strax> heh
[05:46] <WinstonSmith> strax, ok thank you . i think i will ponder that for some more time
[05:46] <WinstonSmith> you know never change a running system etc  heheh
[05:46] <strax> Apparently a second ssh connection is opened up on another port, just in case
[05:47] <strax> Although I don't see how that helps things
[05:48] <WinstonSmith> yes it said so but still ... at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LucidUpgrades it says that you may have to edit the menu.lst etc. that would not be a problem but still if it MAY not run smoothly im done for it
[05:49] <strax> Is there a pressing reason to upgrade?
[05:56] <WinstonSmith> sry was afk. more ore less ... just to have a homogeneous environment
[05:57] <Jordan_U> WinstonSmith: Make sure you run it in screen, and be prepared to completely lose remote access to it if something goes wrong.
[05:57] <WinstonSmith> and since the new LTS is out...
[05:57] <WinstonSmith> Jordan_U, thanks for the tip will do !
[05:57] <Jordan_U> WinstonSmith: You're welcome.
[05:58] <WinstonSmith> Jordan_U, if i lose remote then does it reboot automatically at the end or do i gain remote again and reconnect to screen?
[05:59] <Jordan_U> WinstonSmith: I don't think it will reboot automatically.
[06:18] <arvind_khadri> Hi, I am unable to see the statistics of a windows client. I get a message telling that -l parameters are missing and also Socket connection is being timed out.
[07:54] <dulmandakh> hello, I need help on virtualization+bridge
[07:57] <dulmandakh> seems bridge setup working fine, because I can ping to the IP
[07:58] <dulmandakh> it's static
[07:59] <dulmandakh> libvirt bridge config is same as on official ubuntu documentation
[08:12] <dulmandakh> seems working, thanks
[08:23] <qiyong> how to upgrade from 10.04 to 10.04.1 ?
[09:19] <alex88> morning..i've a updated ubuntu install, i have to let my friend download the updates from my pc instead of archived..cause we have atm slow internet.. apt-mirror when installed downloads the full repositories right?
[09:20] <joschi> alex88: you're probably looking for something like apt-cacher or approx
[09:22] <alex88> joschi: what about just copy /var/cache/apt/archived?
[09:22] <alex88> *archives
[09:23] <joschi> alex88: you could do that
[09:23] <alex88> nice..i think is the faster way..then when synaptic tryies to update find there the packages..or i have to do some cache refresh or something similar to make it find those?
[10:35] <Nafallo> mmmm quagga
[14:56] <xmaxmex> fala marciopanto ;)
[14:56] <marciopanto> Hi Claudemir
[14:56] <Fabricio-Magalha> hello word !!!
[15:02] <RoyK> hi all. if I install a VM using virt-manager, the host is running Lucid and so is the guest - will this be setup using paravirt or hwvirt?
[15:06] <Patrickdk> you can do either
[15:08] <RoyK> Patrickdk: from virt-manager, how do I check if a VM is PV or not?
[15:09] <Patrickdk> dunno, I never use virt-manager
[15:09] <RoyK> ok, from the command line, then?
[15:09] <Patrickdk> dunno I never use the command line
[15:10] <Patrickdk> I only do xen and esx vm's
[15:10] <Patrickdk> I assume your doing kvm based
[15:10] <RoyK> it is
[15:10] <RoyK> I gave up paravirtualizing ubuntu with xen
[15:16] <Patrickdk> all of my linux xen's are paravirtual
[15:18] <RoyK> Patrickdk: xen told me the .iso file didn't contain a known linux install - I asked around and couldn't find how to do things properly....
[15:18] <Patrickdk> xen? iso files?
[15:18] <Patrickdk> not sure how you did it
[15:18] <RoyK> ubuntu-10.04 iso
[15:18] <Patrickdk> but then again, I never installed a xen guest from an iso
[15:18] <RoyK> never mind - kvm works well
[15:19] <Patrickdk> just used deb builder
[15:19] <RoyK> it's somehow quite understandable that ubuntu has and now redhat will move to kvm
[15:54] <SpamapS> RoyK: I believe maverick will be much more friendly to xen btw.
[15:55] <RoyK> SpamapS: doesn't really matter so long as kvm works well :)
[15:56] <SpamapS> RoyK: right, I agree. I think though, there is some desire to make it work better w/ xen because of some EC2 stuff.
[15:59]  * SpamapS realizes he has wandered into completely unfamiliar territory at this point.
[15:59] <Patrickdk> yep
[16:04] <RoyK> operating ubuntu is quite boring, really
[16:05] <RoyK> there's lots of more action with certain other platforms
[16:12] <JamesHarrison> Here's an interesting one: How the heck do I get the scst module into the kernel, preferably without doing the compile-from-source dance?
[16:33] <RoyK> JamesHarrison: a kernel module must be compiled for a compatible kernel - if you, say, download a redhat kernel module, it will probably use symbols not in the ubuntu kernel
[16:33] <JamesHarrison> RoyK: I found https://launchpad.net/~ast/+archive/scst which is a precompiled pae kernel with the scst module, which has worked a treat now I've actually booted into it. :)
[16:34] <RoyK> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/scst
[16:34] <RoyK> I guess you've been there already, though :)
[16:34] <JamesHarrison> yeah, that too- the fact that you reboot and ofc it doesn't boot into the new kernel confused me :)
[16:35] <JamesHarrison> Too used to gentoo, heh :)
[16:35] <RoyK> running Lucid?
[16:35] <RoyK> with grub2?
[16:35] <JamesHarrison> Updated /etc/defaults/grub.conf to have the correct default, now works fine
[16:35] <RoyK> grub2 is a PITA imho
[16:35] <RoyK> k
[16:35] <JamesHarrison> Beats grub1/lilo :D
[16:36] <RoyK> grub1 works well
[16:36]  * Patrickdk hasn't had any issues with grub2, on >20 systems
[16:36] <RoyK> lilo is something that belongs in the ninetees
[16:36] <RoyK> Patrickdk: well, it works, but I find the configuration easier in old grub1
[16:37] <Patrickdk> ya, cause the old grub didn't do much, well actually didn't do anything :)
[16:37] <Patrickdk> grub2 is a mini-os
[16:38] <RoyK> perhaps I'm just being overly conservative here :)
[16:38]  * RoyK wants to bomb Oracle
[16:38] <RoyK> closing down opensolaris was evil
[16:43] <bobnn> Hello.  I have a routing issue on server 8.04 - is this the right place?
[16:45] <bobnn> The LARTC list seems to be gone :(
[16:55] <arrrghhh> hey all.  not really an ubuntu question, more of  a networking question... netmasks confuse me, if i just want the netmask to include one ip, do i set the mask to 0?
[16:55] <arrrghhh> so 192.168.0.5/0 would just include that one IP?
[16:59] <shauno> I think /32 would
[17:00] <arrrghhh> because that's how many bits are borrowed...?
[17:00] <arrrghhh> netmasks confuse the hell out of me.
[17:00] <shauno> I'm not sure /0 is a legal operand.  if you look at an IP as binary rather than decimal, you get something like 11111111.11111111.11111111.11111111   .. the /n tells you how many bits of that aren't allowed to change
[17:01] <arrrghhh> oh i see
[17:01] <arrrghhh> so /32 would say no bits can change basically.
[17:01] <shauno> so /8 covers every IP under the first quad, /16 everything under the first and second, etc
[17:01] <shauno> yeah.  /32 would allow no bits to vary from what you gave
[17:01] <arrrghhh> i had that backwards then.
[17:01] <arrrghhh> ok
[17:02] <shauno> in theory; never tried it because that's a very odd use for netmasks :)
[17:02] <arrrghhh> so 192.168.0.100-255... would /24 work for that...?
[17:02] <arrrghhh> lol
[17:02] <arrrghhh> i'm trying to do QoS on my dd-wrt router.
[17:02] <shauno> /24 would give you 192.168.0.*
[17:03] <arrrghhh> even if i specify the mask starting at 192.168.0.100?
[17:03] <shauno> I believe so, because 24 (3*8) is the first three quads
[17:03] <arrrghhh> hrm
[17:04] <arrrghhh> i took a class that was supposed to teach me this stuff.  blargh.
[17:04] <arrrghhh> it helped me with understanding how it pieces together at a high level, but building netmasks still confuses me.
[17:05] <shauno> after that, every 1 you add halves the space, so /25 would give you xxx.xxx.xxx.0-127 and xxx.xxx.xxx.128-255
[17:05] <arrrghhh> i see.
[17:05] <shauno> /26 would be 0-65, 64-127, 128-19... something.  191?
[17:05] <arrrghhh> perhaps i should change my dhcp range to match the netmask.
[17:06] <shauno> netmasks make complete sense when you look at it as being 4 8bit binary numbers, rather than just 4 decimal numbers.  it's going between the two that confuses everyone :)
[17:06] <arrrghhh> yes!
[17:07] <arrrghhh> that's exactly the problem.  the conversion in my head gets lost somewhere.
[17:08] <shauno> I dunno if it's just me, but taking the first 4 bits off 11111111 is much easier to picture, than taking the first 4 bits off 255
[17:09] <shauno> but just halving the available addresses every time /n increments seems a pretty usable shortcut
[17:11] <arrrghhh_> well hopefully my QoS works right now.
[17:12] <arrrghhh> that's better.
[17:14] <arrrghhh> sweet!  QoS appears to be working.  hopefully the router doesn't freak out again.
[17:14] <arrrghhh> last time i set this up based on port numbers, and the router couldn't handle it.  kept resetting and freakin out, had to turn it off entirely.
[19:27] <Psi-Jack> Hmmm. By chance there any pacemaker people here that might could help me?
[19:51] <ruben23> hi guys are there programs can recover deletd files on ubuntu-server .?
[19:51] <IdleOne> !recover | ruben23
[20:47] <crunchbang> lkjkk
[21:07] <dominicdinada> keep getting problems with apache2 and fqdn and i followed this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[21:08] <dominicdinada> Invalid command 'diab', perhaps misspelled or defined by a module not included in the server configuration                                                                         [fail]
[21:21] <shauno> where does 'diab' appear in your config?  the term doesn't appear on that page
[21:22] <shauno> ah, he's already left, nm
[21:23] <jca1981> Please help me with system recovery, tried to upgrade to lucid via ssh and my connection died, now it wont boot. i can get in via install cd and run dpkg --configure -a but if fails with "could not find image (/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-24-server"
[22:31] <cloakable> jca1981: apt-get -f install
[23:58] <John> hello there.  I am looking for someone who can help me with mounting windows vista shares with cifs  (they are very slow for some reason)  I'm using jaunty server