[00:00] Hopsa: Why do you think all of Ubuntu server is my personal problem? [00:00] I agree it's bad, just not that I'm required to be the one that fixes it. [00:01] You tried to defend "n0a1ias" and then you started talking to me. [00:02] n0a1ias is at best a bot at worst a failed experiment to code a bot. [00:02] what? [00:02] no [00:02] im not a bot [00:02] 1/3 = ? [00:03] 1 sec [00:03] ok [00:03] 0.3333333333 [00:03] repeating [00:04] im sorry i was mean, but wow. [00:04] jear [00:04] jerk** [00:05] 3,1592 ... is ? [00:05] pie [00:05] waitno [00:05] a number? [00:05] idk the question [00:05] 3.141592653589793... ? [00:06] Its PI [00:06] oh, the missing 4 threw me off [00:06] lol [00:07] so yea [00:07] not a bot [00:08] If you scroll up and explain why i could have thought you're then i can accept any outcome of this discussion :) [00:08] yea i just did [00:09] hah [00:09] Accepted [00:09] Where in europe do you live, what country ? [00:10] USA.... [00:11] North or south ? [00:16] So what ive learned about #ubuntu-server so far is this: ScottK thinks dhcpd is: "It's not a package I personally pay a lot of attention to". n0alias likes the shiny shiny colors (joking) and the rest of the channel is out partying ? [00:16] south [00:17] Thanks! [00:17] yep [00:17] haha [00:18] n0a1ias: Is it always this quiet here ? [00:18] yea [00:18] unfortunitly [00:21] I feel that some shouldnt be here at all given that regard and respect it deserves. Do you require new staff ? [00:25] Its very important to care. Am i right ? === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [00:58] ScottK: Correct me if im wrong, but arent you a member of ubuntu and you just said that you dont give a shit about servers in ubuntu but are located in #ubuntu-server ? /What kind of "member are you" ? [00:58] Ahhh.. Hopsa. A known troll. [01:00] Really ? Please provide intel on this ? [01:01] Lets see.. moatbuilder, Dionysos, Manjula, Ballefjon, Jusfication, Melkerscrollan, even GayAnankePsi. [01:01] What ? [01:02] Always coming from that VERY specific IP you're on now, plus ip-*-*-179-93.dialup.ice.net [01:02] Psi-Jack: you forgot bermanrules [01:02] [Hopsa] anthony.freenode.net :Irvine, CA, USA [01:02] * [Hopsa] is connecting from *@h156n2fls32o256.telia.com 81.231.133.156 [01:02] IdleOne: I haven't logged that one yet apparently. [01:02] ??? [01:03] psi-jack: ? [01:03] Cut the crap, troll. [01:04] Thanks then i guess. How rude. [01:04] Anyway. [01:05] I found an issue with Ubuntu 10.04's lsb/init-functions that might should be looked into. Basically when using status_of_proc -p PIDFILE DAEMON, it passes it to pidofproc which cares nothing for DAEMON if -p PIDFILE is given so if the PIDFILE doesn't exist it returns rc=4 instead of checking the pidof DAEMON and determining if it's actually running regardless of the pidfile. [01:06] Kinda breaks LSB a bit by returning rc=4 when it could in fact return 0 or 3 as expected. [01:08] PIDFILE=`cat Location_Of_Pidfile` has worked the best and is the recommended aquireing of PIDS for programs [01:08] Hopsa: Shut it already. [01:09] My fix for it was to alter line 94 of lsb/init-functions to: if [ -x /bin/pidof -a -n "$1" ]; then -- So if DAEMON is passed to it, it assumes since it's already shifted $OPTIN, that it at least has a daemon name. [01:10] That whole check for $specified is really kinda lame. ;) [01:12] * Hopsa Has nothing to say and i bet your question will go unanswered. [01:13] Have a bad package entry in my systems apt database, and the name persists despite the removal of the package . How can I get rid of this entry [01:16] synaptic show post_install script failure .. [01:21] Have a bad package entry in my systems apt database, and the name persists despite the removal of the package . How can I get rid of this entry [01:21] synaptic show post_install script failure .. [01:22] And.. Why... prey tell... Are you running synaptic on a server? [01:23] okay that was not required , but yet .. [01:23] synaptic means you're running X, which means you're not running a server. [01:24] Or, if you are, you're stupid crazy for running X on a server. [01:24] ? [01:25] psi is trolling [01:25] No, Hopsa, you still are. [01:25] k thanks for you kind contribution [01:25] kuttan_: You need #ubuntu [01:28] Smoked too much again Psi-Jack ? [01:28] Told ya. [01:28] Idiot [01:28] * Psi-Jack gets freenode staff. [01:28] Please try to behave sir [01:32] !ops WitBier and Hopsa == Known troll. [01:32] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [01:34] k some other time , thanks all [01:46] heh, so anyway. I only have a couple issues left to resolve with my pacemaker + drbd + dlm + clvmd + IPaddr2 + iSCSI stuff. [01:50] Heyall, Does anybody know of a good tutorial on setting Postfix with Ubuntu 10.04? The ones at help.ubuntu.com are way way too wordy and complicated. [01:51] and, what exactly are you trying to do with postfix? [01:51] http://www.postfix.org/BASIC_CONFIGURATION_README.html [01:51] biodegabriel: And https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix is too wordy and complicated? [01:51] thx Hopsa! [01:51] biodegabriel: Np! [01:52] Psi-Jack: I was using this one "https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/postfix.html" and it started explaining stuff about paying Certificate Authorities to certify you... I was like... WTF?! [01:53] That looks about the same thing. [01:53] Still.. Not very complicated, compared to past documentation basic guides. :p [01:54] Psi-Jack: Step 2 sends you to another page where they lecture you on certiifcates. [01:54] Which you don't have to follow that part. :p [01:55] Psi-Jack: Yeah, but the "note"s come after the instructions. It's totally a-linear. Not what I need in instructions/tutorials. [01:55] Instead, the alternative, creating a self-signed certficiate, or flat-out skipping the sections 2-4 [01:55] Psi-Jack: Want to setup my Postfix install for me? [01:55] Nope [01:56] I want you to RTFM and follow it as it's written because that guide is actually really fricken nice. :) [01:56] Psi-Jack: Nice for people who've installed Postfix 12 times before. Not for n00bs like me. [01:57] Actually, it's exactly for "n00bs" like you. [01:57] Psi-Jack: How many users pay for certified certificates? [01:58] biodegabriel: Millions. However you don't need to get a certified certificate, or even follow the steps 2-4, as I've said already. [01:58] Psi-Jack: If only you were sitting beside me ten minutes ago... [01:58] You wouldn't want that. ;) [01:59] I uses a sheleighly on my students. ;) [02:00] Shenanigan ? === luis__lopez is now known as luis_lopez [02:21] New bug: #623144 in chkrootkit (main) "chkutmp assert failure: *** stack smashing detected ***: ./chkutmp terminated" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/623144 [02:21] A very funny game i played --- Monkey Bubble --- Absolutely love it, check it out! [02:25] uvirtbot: *__GI_abort () at abort.c:92 is not aborted properly you say ? ;) [02:25] Hopsa: Error: "*__GI_abort" is not a valid command. [02:26] Interresting /yawn [02:26] Now thats interresting, Married with children is on! :) [02:33] Hey all, How do i find out if I have have sendmail installed? (I'm not joking, i really don't know). [02:34] I just installed 10.04 server. One partition is mounted on installation as type ntfs in fstab. Is there any reason not to use ntfs-3g? [02:37] biodegabriel: use dpkg to query what's installed or just look for the sendmail binary [02:37] pmatulis: thx [02:37] biodegabriel: 'dpkg -l *sendmail*' or 'which sendmail' [02:38] respectively [02:38] pmatulis: i was typing 'sendmail which'. LOL [02:38] hmmm, a sendmail witch, nasty thing [02:50] biodegabriel: ls /usr/sbin/sendmail [02:50] Install sendmail-cf if you intend to use it. [02:51] Hopsa: cool [02:51] :) [03:37] hi everybody. my server 8.04 wont reboot anymore. i give it a reboot or shutdown -r now and just nothing happens... i get the message that it will reboot but nothing [03:38] anyone running squid on 10.04? [03:38] which log should i look at? [03:39] hi guys! anyone knows if "setfacl" works on ubuntu? [03:41] WinstonSmith: I would urge you to upgrade because ive seen indications on that 8.04 isnt prioritized anymore. An odd decition, but nevertheless perhaps a fact. [03:43] WinstonSmith: If you run servers and they work ok, then upgrading atm isnt a good option if you rely on a dhcp server as the one in Ubuntu Lucid isnt working as far as i can tell. [03:43] Hopsa, thx for responding. the server belongs to a friend of mine and runs a website blog etc and he does not want to upgrade without me being there and thats 3000 km away :( [03:43] httpd is ok [03:43] in Lucid [03:44] yes but can you tell me anything about my question plz? [03:44] 8.04 server will receive security fixes and critical fixes until April 2013 [03:45] cause i just upgraded the kernel and then tried a "reboot" (uptime was 100 days) and it just doesnt reboot [03:45] which log this kind of command would be logged to? [03:45] yes 8.04 is LTS thats why we chose it [03:46] WinstonSmith: I do know that one of my friends Ubuntu-8.04 Firefox stopped working. Perhaps due to an upgrade he did, but the result was he had no browser anymore. "ns_loginit()" problem, possibly due to different versions of xulrunnel. [03:47] "shutdown -h now" ? [03:47] Hopsa, yes but im talking about a headless server no GUI or FF [03:47] "shutdown -r now" ? [03:47] -r Requests that the system be rebooted after it has been brought [03:47] down. [03:48] Hopsa, as i said above "shutdown -h now" or reboot produce the message that system is going down for reboot and then nothing happens [03:48] reboot just being an alias to "shutdown -h now" [03:48] Yep [03:49] or ... -r now [03:49] i have no entry in dmesg or /var/log/messages related to my reboot try [03:49] -h means shut down or (halt) [03:49] oh yeah typo sry [03:49] np [03:50] So, nothing happens ? [03:50] is there any other log that i could look at ... this behavior is really strange [03:50] also check /var/log/secure [03:51] the machine had a load of 3x for weeks cause we had a runaway msql and a gameserver who ate all resources ... maybe related to that? [03:51] lol [03:52] i have no /var/log/secure [03:52] is there a way to see how you're doing on disc space on VPS systems in openvz? [03:52] ls /var/log [03:52] yes i just moved from portugal to germany so i wasnt really on top of things ... no internet [03:52] some dists call it "security" etc [03:52] yes i know [03:53] reboot it and see if setjmp will work correctly then. [03:53] nothing with that name around [03:54] does anyone run squid on ubuntu 10.04 [03:54] Yep [03:55] Hey all, What do I do when a package I'm trying to install can't be found? Do I try another source? http://pastie.org/1121778 [03:57] dschuett: squid-2.7STABLE7 [03:57] Hopsa: does it run ok? [03:58] i can't stop start or reload, i get this: reload: Unknown instance: [03:58] Yes, but watch out for the switch to Squid 3. Then you must remove acl "all" because its been built in. [03:58] For some unknown reason. [03:59] ah, ok thanks for the heads up [03:59] Np. Stop it then start it... ? [03:59] Hopsa: when i do a squid stop...i get: squid is already running! [03:59] same with start and reload [04:00] Hmm, hmm... [04:00] killall -9 squid [04:00] if i do this: /etc/init.d/squid reload stop or start i get unknown instance [04:01] it could have a lingering .lock file in /var/lock/squid.lock or so [04:01] Perhaps due to a powerfailure or so [04:02] Hopsa: that killed it...i was able to start it, but on squid stop or reload it says "squid is already running!" [04:02] are you on ubuntu 10.04? [04:02] Yes, i have one of those running beside me [04:02] anyone else an idea why shutdown -r now does not work anymore? [04:03] damn, i googled the error, and a lot of people are having this issue...but no solutions [04:03] you tried shutdown -h? [04:03] er [04:03] nevermind [04:04] ah to restart [04:04] one sec [04:04] dschuett: Try to start and stop squid manually and see if its the scripts that call squid the wrong way. [04:04] call = try to start [04:04] EvilPhoenix, i have to reboot the server is offsite ~3000km away :| [04:05] I wonder if winston could signal the init process to make a reboot somehow... [04:06] shutdown -r worked for me on both my servers [04:06] Hopsa: not sure how to do what you are asking [04:06] not sure if its just your system [04:06] WinstonSmith: ^ [04:07] Init should have a process id of "1". Does it have that winston ? [04:07] EvilPhoenix, the server is running fine for 2.5 years. every 2 month or so i make all the updates and reboot. never had a single problem wiith it rocksolid :) [04:07] hopsa 1 sec [04:08] yes it does [04:08] dschuett: Your scripts try to start and stop servers one way, perhaps they are not doing it correctly. Try stopping squid and then starting it manually. "squid -k start" maybe (cant remeber atm) [04:10] squid -k reconfigure | rotate | shutdown | interrupt | kill | debug | check | [04:10] parse [04:11] squid -k shutdown && squid [04:11] k, did that [04:11] squid -k shutdown && squid || echo "I have failed to stop and start squid" [04:11] Worked ok ? [04:11] then id suspect the sysinit script [04:12] yeah, it killed it [04:12] and started ok ? [04:12] just try squid start? [04:12] k [04:12] says squid is already running [04:13] any easy way to upgrade to 3.0? [04:16] Hopsa: Do you know what I'm doing wrong here? http://pastie.org/1121802 [04:17] dschuett: use the debian versions [04:17] checking [04:17] isnt itr libsasl ? ... use a "*" if unsure [04:18] biodegabriel, do you have all the repos enabled? [04:18] itr/it [04:18] bbiaw [04:18] cause my apt-cache gives me libgsasl7 - GNU SASL library [04:19] WinstonSmith: here are my repos: http://pastie.org/1121808 [04:22] biodegabriel: just what are you trying to do? [04:22] biodegabriel, hmmm thats really strange because the package is in the universe repos which you have enabled [04:22] pmatulis: install mailutils. i'm following this tutorial: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [04:24] biodegabriel: your answer doesn't correspond to what you just pastebin'd [04:25] (libgsasl) [04:25] pmatulis: i know, but when i try and install mailutils, it installs some other packages, one of which is libgsasl, and that's the one that fails. [04:25] biodegabriel: did you provide that error output? [04:26] pmatulis: yup http://pastie.org/1121778 [04:28] biodegabriel: error shows astromirror.uchicago.edu but your system shows mirror.ne.gov [04:28] INSTALL this first: http://altruistic.lbl.gov/mirrors/ubuntu/pool/universe/g/gsasl/libgsasl7_1.4.4-1ubuntu1_amd64.deb [04:29] so does anybody else an idea on how to reboot a machine if reboot, shutdown -r and init 6 dont work? [04:29] WinstonSmith: try 'reboot' [04:29] pmatulis, please read my msg [04:30] WinstonSmith: oh [04:30] ;) [04:30] 'shutdown -r now' ? [04:30] biodegabriel: well? [04:31] pmatulis, in my msg i said : reboot, shutdown -r and init 6 dont work [04:31] pmatulis: just a sec. [04:31] WinstonSmith: but not 'shutdown -r now' [04:31] yes but thats just the timer [04:32] WinstonSmith: try it then [04:32] i tried all that for quite some time now.... thats wjy im asking [04:32] why* [04:32] if theres any other way to reboot [04:33] WinstonSmith: any output from these commands? [04:33] i give it a reboot or shutdown -r now and just nothing happens... i get the message that it will reboot but nothing [04:33] no entry in dmesg or /var/log/messages [04:33] sorry pmatulis, i'm doing something wrong. is this the right command? http://pastie.org/1121824 [04:33] WinstonSmith: anything in the logs? [04:33] no entry in dmesg or /var/log/messages [04:34] is there any other log you could point me to? [04:34] biodegabriel: your're thrashing, please stop [04:34] WinstonSmith: type 'dmesg' [04:34] thrashing? [04:35] WinstonSmith: "reboot -f" ? [04:35] force [04:35] Hopsa, ok will try that [04:35] biodegabriel: answer my question re discrepency between your sources.list file and the error output [04:37] pmatulis: i was using another source cause i tried 4 other ones and they all said that the package couldn't be found. should i edit my sources list everytime i want to try a different source? [04:37] biodegabriel: just stop thrashing like that. use the official mirrors [04:37] Hopsa, thats seems to have helped :D. i have to wait a bit now to see because it will fsck at boot and has over 2 TB so takes some time [04:38] pmatulis: what are the official mirrors? i got my mirrors from this list https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors [04:38] Hopsa, pmatulis thank you for your time & have a nice day (or night whereever you are) [04:38] WinstonSmith: May the force be with you, always! ... Ill wait until it comes up, gotta go catch some shut eye myself :) [04:38] Np! [04:39] i am your father luke!!! [04:39] Haha! :) [04:40] Hopsa, since you ate still here... ;) do you have a clue what caused this kind of behavior? [04:41] are* [04:41] Maybe /dev/initctl was hosed by something. Its what i can come up with atm. [04:42] biodegabriel: use archive.ubuntu.com for now [04:42] New bug: #625651 in krb5 (main) "package libkadm5clnt6 1.7dfsg~beta3-1ubuntu0.6 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/625651 [04:42] WinstonSmith: did dmesg command show anything? [04:42] pmatulis: OK [04:42] You can test that later by removing it and trying to reboot. Perhaps some other device file could also do it. [04:43] pmatulis: i had stopped using it cause it was taking hours to download packages.... [04:43] pmatulis, no thats what i found really odd. it gave the : the system will reboot now! msg and then nothing... fell into the black hole [04:43] biodegabriel: pastebin your edited file [04:43] WinstonSmith: odd, never seen that [04:44] pmatulis, me nether in all my linux life [04:44] pmatulis: http://pastie.org/1121839 [04:44] pmatulis, i thought that it was related to the heavy load the machine had in the last weeks? [04:44] biodegabriel: anything under /etc/apt/sources.list.d ? if so, pastebin it's contents [04:45] pmatulis: http://pastie.org/1121843 [04:46] success : 04:45:36 up 9 min, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.21, 0.19 [04:46] mknod -m 622 /var/new-dist/dev/console c 5 1 [04:46] mknod -m 666 /var/new-dist/dev/ptmx c 5 2 [04:46] chown root:tty /var/new-dist/dev/{console,ptmx,tty} [04:46] thank you all for your time ! [04:46] biodegabriel: ok, now 'sudo apt-get clean' [04:46] switch /var/new-dist for /dev/* [04:46] pmatulis: done [04:46] now 'sudo apt-get update' [04:47] Laters! [04:47] pmatulis: it fetched 24 packages [04:47] Hopsa, wish u a good shut-eye & cya :D [04:47] now 'sudo apt-get -f install' [04:47] biodegabriel: ^^ [04:48] pmatulis: "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 37 not upgraded." [04:48] biodegabriel: now 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' [04:49] pmatulis: working...... [04:49] pmatulis: 37 upgraded [04:49] biodegabriel: now 'sudo apt-get --reinstall install mailutils' [04:50] pmatulis: perfect! so changing my sources was messing everything up? is that what's called "thrashing"? [04:51] biodegabriel: thrashing refers to trying anything in the hopes that it will work, going berzerk really [04:51] pmatulis: you haven't seen me thrash then... :D [04:52] biodegabriel: so you're all set? [04:52] pmatulis: thanks for your help. i can keep on with my postfix setup now. what was i doing wrong, though, specifically? [04:52] wrong source? [04:53] biodegabriel: i don't know :) maybe didn't update your package index? [04:54] pmatulis: you mean i needed to do "apt-get update"? [04:54] biodegabriel: yes [04:54] biodegabriel: but the other commands could have played a role too [04:55] biodegabriel: (cleaning out your cache) [04:55] biodegabriel: the general package upgrade [04:55] biodegabriel: i don't see anything :) [04:56] pmatulis: cool, thanks again. i nearly drowned there. [04:56] biodegabriel: nice. keep on truckin' - and good night [04:56] pmatulis: night [05:01] New bug: #625656 in mysql-dfsg-5.1 (main) "package libmysqlclient16 (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/libmysqlclient.so.16.0.0', which is also in package mysql-cluster-client-5.1 0:7.0.9-1ubuntu7" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/625656 [05:30] how may I change the hostname of my server? [05:31] hmm I used hostname command [05:31] any experiences with upgrading 8.04 to 10.04 while SSH'ing into the box? [05:33] because do-release-upgrade throws a big fat warning that it shouldnt be done over SSH but how do you do it if the box is offsite? [05:42] I got that warning, did it anyway [05:42] 9.10 to 10.04 [05:42] worked fine [05:44] strax, no problems at all? did you had to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst ? [05:45] No, but again I was just doing one release to the next, not lts to lts [05:45] because the box is ~3000 km away a bit far to plug in a monitor and KB ;) [05:45] heh [05:46] strax, ok thank you . i think i will ponder that for some more time [05:46] you know never change a running system etc heheh [05:46] Apparently a second ssh connection is opened up on another port, just in case [05:47] Although I don't see how that helps things [05:48] yes it said so but still ... at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LucidUpgrades it says that you may have to edit the menu.lst etc. that would not be a problem but still if it MAY not run smoothly im done for it [05:49] Is there a pressing reason to upgrade? [05:56] sry was afk. more ore less ... just to have a homogeneous environment [05:57] WinstonSmith: Make sure you run it in screen, and be prepared to completely lose remote access to it if something goes wrong. [05:57] and since the new LTS is out... [05:57] Jordan_U, thanks for the tip will do ! [05:57] WinstonSmith: You're welcome. [05:58] Jordan_U, if i lose remote then does it reboot automatically at the end or do i gain remote again and reconnect to screen? [05:59] WinstonSmith: I don't think it will reboot automatically. === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [06:18] Hi, I am unable to see the statistics of a windows client. I get a message telling that -l parameters are missing and also Socket connection is being timed out. === rmk_ is now known as rmk === Guest67660 is now known as crazygir [07:54] hello, I need help on virtualization+bridge [07:57] seems bridge setup working fine, because I can ping to the IP [07:58] it's static [07:59] libvirt bridge config is same as on official ubuntu documentation [08:12] seems working, thanks [08:23] how to upgrade from 10.04 to 10.04.1 ? [09:19] morning..i've a updated ubuntu install, i have to let my friend download the updates from my pc instead of archived..cause we have atm slow internet.. apt-mirror when installed downloads the full repositories right? [09:20] alex88: you're probably looking for something like apt-cacher or approx [09:22] joschi: what about just copy /var/cache/apt/archived? [09:22] *archives [09:23] alex88: you could do that [09:23] nice..i think is the faster way..then when synaptic tryies to update find there the packages..or i have to do some cache refresh or something similar to make it find those? === rmk_ is now known as rmk [10:31] New bug: #625740 in quagga (main) "Sync quagga 0.99.17-1 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/625740 [10:35] mmmm quagga === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk === Cyber_Rock1 is now known as Cyber_Rock [13:51] New bug: #625798 in tickcount "Don't use int constants with a long data type." [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/625798 [14:08] New bug: #624802 in authbind (main) "authbind port usage incorrect" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/624802 [14:56] fala marciopanto ;) [14:56] New bug: #625812 in quagga (main) "Install needs to turn off Reverse Path Filtering" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/625812 [14:56] Hi Claudemir [14:56] hello word !!! [15:02] hi all. if I install a VM using virt-manager, the host is running Lucid and so is the guest - will this be setup using paravirt or hwvirt? [15:06] you can do either [15:08] Patrickdk: from virt-manager, how do I check if a VM is PV or not? [15:09] dunno, I never use virt-manager [15:09] ok, from the command line, then? [15:09] dunno I never use the command line [15:10] I only do xen and esx vm's [15:10] I assume your doing kvm based [15:10] it is [15:10] I gave up paravirtualizing ubuntu with xen [15:16] all of my linux xen's are paravirtual [15:18] Patrickdk: xen told me the .iso file didn't contain a known linux install - I asked around and couldn't find how to do things properly.... [15:18] xen? iso files? [15:18] not sure how you did it [15:18] ubuntu-10.04 iso [15:18] but then again, I never installed a xen guest from an iso [15:18] never mind - kvm works well [15:19] just used deb builder === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [15:19] it's somehow quite understandable that ubuntu has and now redhat will move to kvm [15:54] RoyK: I believe maverick will be much more friendly to xen btw. [15:55] SpamapS: doesn't really matter so long as kvm works well :) [15:56] RoyK: right, I agree. I think though, there is some desire to make it work better w/ xen because of some EC2 stuff. [15:59] * SpamapS realizes he has wandered into completely unfamiliar territory at this point. [15:59] yep [16:04] operating ubuntu is quite boring, really [16:05]