[00:00] <hiku> andaluz: you mean something like itunes?
[00:00] <ActionParsnip> andaluz: make sure the songs are legal to download via torrents etc
[00:00] <LetsGo67> How do I use my Telus Huawei E182E Mobile Internet Key in Ubuntu 10.04 please?  It doesn't show up in my network list, even after entering the network manually!
[00:01] <andaluz> hiku: I never used it, but something like that. On windows I used Limewire, but that's on big spyware dumping garbage on my disk.
[00:01] <andaluz> ActionParsnip: I bought CD's but they are either scratched or lost somehow.
[00:02] <ilovefairuz> andaluz: most p2p networks are just garbage now
[00:02] <ilovefairuz> andaluz: use a bittorent search engine like isohunt
[00:02] <LetsGo67> Oh I want my Telus stick monkeys fishes hippopotamus to work please pretty please!
[00:02] <hiku> andaluz: oh ok so you don't want to pay for the music.., hmm transmission is a good place to start, and use any torrent site like hehe piratebay or something
[00:02] <andaluz> ilovefairuz: thnx
[00:02] <jb12> how do i install java in ubuntu
[00:03] <rww> ubottu: java | jb12
[00:03] <andaluz> hiku: I already payed it...
[00:03] <ActionParsnip> andaluz: i'd check the legality, lost CDs don't mean you can download stuff for free
[00:03] <jb12> Package sun-java6-jre has no installation candidate
[00:03] <rww> ubottu: partner | jb12
[00:04] <andaluz> ActionParsnip: leave the legality, it's my responsible for that.
[00:04] <nakhlawi> ntr0py: did you try to remount?
[00:04] <ActionParsnip> andaluz: just covering the channel rules
[00:04] <nakhlawi> ntr0py: with the correct flags that is.
[00:05] <andaluz> ActionParsnip: keep on-topic
[00:05] <mneptok> !piracy | andaluz
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> !legal | andaluz
[00:06] <hiku> andaluz: I believe he is.
[00:06] <LetsGo67> * Telus Telus Telus Telus Telus Telus Telus Telus * How do I get my Telus stick to work? * Telus Telus Telus Telus Telus Telus Telus Telus Telus Telus *
[00:06] <mneptok> LetsGo67: stop that please
[00:06] <Daekdroom> LetsGo67, No need to repeat like that
[00:06] <LetsGo67> :(
[00:07] <ntr0py> nakhlawi: i tried "sudo mount /dst -o exec,loop,remount" without any difference the files still are "-r--r--r--"
[00:07] <nakhlawi> ntr0py: then I think those are the creation flags, you cannot change them.
[00:08] <nakhlawi> ntr0py: If the file was created having the executable flag, then you will see it executable
[00:08] <nakhlawi> ntr0py: if you have a re-writable CD, then you can chmod those files. (I think).
[00:08] <ntr0py> nakhlawi: you think the permissions are set inside the iso?
[00:09] <LetsGo67> What about Huawei E182E how do I use that in Ubuntu?  It makes me sad because I can't find it in the Novell Network Internet Manager and so I don't know where it hid.  It must be small like a mouse and so I can't find it anywhere that I look because it is so small and hidden.
[00:09] <andaluz> ubottu: please read my first question before blaming of piracy...what a bunch of fools
[00:09] <aes> halo
[00:09] <andaluz> aaah that explains everything
[00:09] <nakhlawi> ntr0py: Yes. That is why you can change permissions on a hard disk, but not on an ISO. It is read only.
[00:10] <nakhlawi> ntr0py: you cannot even change the contents of those files once you burn it.
[00:10] <jgornick> hey guys, is there a way that i can pass my audio from line-in out to my speakers?  using ubuntu 10.04
[00:11] <ntr0py> nakhlawi: thats very uncomfortable, i really miss an mount option to overwrite those... guess then ill have to cpy them in a local folder...
[00:11] <nakhlawi> ntr0py: Yes, do that and try.
[00:12] <nakhlawi> ntr0py: ISO filesystems usually are not writeable once you burn the CD.
[00:12] <MeXTuX> I wanna install Ubuntu on Core 2 Duo T8400. Do I need a 32 bit Ubuntu or is it a 64 bit processor?? :)
[00:12] <barrito> ilovefairuz: ok i installed the drivers restarted my computer....now it tries to access the network...i type the password and it just tries to connect
[00:12] <ntr0py> nakhlawi: thx for helping me and explaining the details...
[00:12] <ilovefairuz> barrito: but it doesn't succeed? is the password correct?
[00:12] <|eagle1967|> MeXTuX: i have a core 2 duo 6600 and installed the 64bit
[00:12] <nakhlawi> ntr0py: no problem.
[00:13] <barrito> ilovefairuz:yes it is but the wifi indicater just goes up and down as if it were trying to connect the even minute or so it asks for the password again
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> barrito: you may have more luck with wicd
[00:13] <hiku> MeXTuX: you can install 64bit. Do you have more than 2GB of ram?
[00:14] <barrito> ActionParsnip: wicd?
[00:14] <MeXTuX> I have 2 GB of RAM
[00:14] <cast> install 64bit anyway
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> barrito: its an alternative to network-manager
[00:14] <barrito> oh ok
[00:15] <tarutaru> question ~ is there a better way to edit the ~/.ssh/known_hosts (in case of remote host key change) other then pico/vi blindly?
[00:15] <kill3r3k> hi, I'm using ubuntu 10.04 server, when I try to run it with vga=775, 793, 794, 795 I get garbage on the screen
[00:15] <ilovefairuz> barrito: i think you should make sure the password is correct, did you try it with another machine?
[00:15] <hiku> tarutaru: rm ~/.ssh/known_hosts =)
[00:15] <Tourist> kill3r3k: Then clean it off
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> MeXTuX: 32bit is still more supported by 3rd party sources but you can use either. If you have less than 3Gb ram and only need "normal" desktop stuff then I'd shoot for 32bit
[00:15] <barrito> ilovefairuz: yes the password is correct it hasen't changed in 3 years
[00:16] <kill3r3k> Tourist, nobody likes smartass
[00:16] <Tourist>  /wrists
[00:16] <cast> 32bit has among other things, have the number of available registers and no NX bit support
[00:16] <Swistaczek> Hello
[00:16] <cast> half the number*
[00:16] <ActionParsnip> kill3r3k: use the commands here, you can use the framebuffer driver: http://idyllictux.wordpress.com/2010/04/26/lucidubuntu-10-04-high-resolution-plymouth-virtual-terminal-for-atinvidia-cards-with-proprietaryrestricted-driver/   stop at the embedded video
[00:17] <ilovefairuz> barrito: what encryption type does the router use? wep or wpa?
[00:17] <RichardRaseley> Hello all, I have an Ubuntu (10.04) server running under Hyper-V. I am going to be using it as a router to handle traffic between 3 subnets on my network. During the setup, it detected the first network card without issues and once I logged in I was able to edit /etc/network/interfaces to configure the static IP address. However, when trying to mirror the settings and configure the other nics (Just by adding sections for eth1 and eth2) in
[00:17] <barrito> wep
[00:17] <slidinghorn> having trouble having ekiga send sound to my headset (logitech "premium notebook") on 10.04 UNE.
[00:17] <Swistaczek> Which file is loaded when system start up? I would like add custom script while system loading
[00:17] <ilovefairuz> barrito: try changing it
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> cast: if the user owns a brother printer and wants to print from ubuntu s/he will NEED to use 32bit as brother only make 32bit driver debs
[00:17] <mneptok> !away > eternalswd_work
[00:17] <jk_> kill3r3k, Apparently the 10.04 packages do that with "vga=" if you have nvidia drivers. The cure is to not use the vga= option any more. Use "GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=1024x768" or whatever resolution you want, in /etc/default/grub, instead.
[00:18] <nakhlawi> Swistaczek: you need to check the run level scripts
[00:18] <cast> ActionParsnip: given ubuntu is marketed as a free operating system, i don't see why we should make concessions to non-free garbage.
[00:18] <Swistaczek> nakhlawi: not exactly, I want run my ruby script when all systems goes up, when user get logged
[00:18] <Swistaczek> nakhlawi: I have automatic login enabled
[00:18] <mneptok> ActionParsnip: i have a Brother printer and use 64-bit. there are FLOSS PPD files for most Brother printers included by default.
[00:19] <wentor> hi
[00:19] <kill3r3k> jk_, thx will try it! but I dont have nvidia card
[00:19] <cast> i find the best way to deal with crap hardware is to not own any
[00:19] <nakhlawi> Swistaczek: if the login is using bash, then you can use the bash configuration files.
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> cast: its a constraint of the poor support, yes but if thats what the user has bught into then they must play the game
[00:19] <Swistaczek> nakhlawi: for example .bashrc in profile?
[00:19] <sebsebseb> cast: indeed its a good idea to buy Linux compatible hardware, if going to run it
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> cast: either way telling users to always install 64bit OS just because they have a 64bit cpu is impractical
[00:20] <Swistaczek> nakhlawi: How I can run system command via bash ?
[00:20] <nakhlawi> Swistaczek: Your users are logging in through which means? CLI or GUI?
[00:20] <Swistaczek> nakhlawi: in `` ?
[00:20] <Swistaczek> nakhlawi: GUI
[00:20] <cast> ActionParsnip: why is it impractical when using free software?
[00:21] <wentor> i want to install the nvidia drivers but i need to reboot without X, how i do that?
[00:21] <nakhlawi> Swistaczek: then you need to check the login scripts of the GUI itself, bash scripts won't help you.
[00:21] <jk_> kill3r3k, It works for me with an old ATI card; be sure to run update-grub after making the change though. It won't have any effect until you do.
[00:21] <Swistaczek> nakhlawi: http://embraceubuntu.com/2005/09/07/adding-a-startup-script-to-be-run-at-bootup/ thanks ;)
[00:21] <kill3r3k> jk_, I will run update-grub ;-)
[00:21] <sebsebseb> cast: I haven't been following the whole convo, but sometimes 32bit works better than 64bit,  maybe thats the point ActionParsnip is trying to make
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> cast: its not, but you don't know 100% of the situation so making a solid decision on partial data is immature, if you present the user with the details then they can see what they have etc and make a choice that way
[00:21] <nakhlawi> Swistaczek: Sure.
[00:22] <cast> ActionParsnip: just going off the front page "Ubuntu is, and always will be, absolutely free."
[00:22] <Swistaczek> nakhlawi: but I dont want write init.d for this ;p
[00:22] <Swistaczek> nakhlawi: I would ordinary do `screen -dm ruby asa.script`
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> cast: sure, but parts of the OS a user needs or wants may not be
[00:22] <eternalswd_work> anyone ever configure vsftpd to authenticate via active directory?  I know it uses pam.  ssh and smb logins work fine, but ftp fails to log in.  Local accounts do work.  I'm on lucid server edition.
[00:23] <sebsebseb> cast: sometimes a propritary driver will be needed for example, for full graphics card support
[00:23] <wele> hello,  i have problem with every restart icons changing position
[00:23] <cast> this sounds like 'absolutely free' is a load of BS?
[00:23] <RichardRaseley> Would anyone be able to assist me with an Ubuntu routing issue? I don't want to SPAM the channel with my long winded description. =X
[00:23] <ActionParsnip> cast: in some cases, yes, in others no
[00:23] <nakhlawi> Swistaczek: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=53308
[00:23] <sebsebseb> cast: if you want a distro that makes it a bit harder to install propritary codecs and such, there are quite a few out there
[00:24] <cast> hmm, so has anyone filled a bug report to fix the front page of ubuntu.com?
[00:24] <hiku> cast: ? why
[00:24] <sebsebseb> !freedom | cast
[00:25] <hiku> oooo keywords = "which means mostly"
[00:25] <RichardRaseley> No software is free, unless your time is worthless. =P
[00:25] <hiku> RichardRaseley: =) totally
[00:25] <cast> you see the problem, the front page says absolutely
[00:25] <hiku> cast:  have you submitted the ticket?
[00:25] <scottj> on my second drive I made it encrypted with disk utility, how do I have it automount? I have to go into disk utility, unlock it and then mount it each boot
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> cast: the default install is, its only when users add stuff it becomes not
 No software is free, unless your time is worthless. =P < there is free
[00:26] <nakhlawi> Swistaczek: actually, that is a bit outdated. It is "startup applications"
[00:26] <RichardRaseley> I have an Ubuntu (10.04) server running under Hyper-V. I am going to be using it as a router to handle traffic between 3 subnets on my network. During the setup, it detected the first network card without issues and once I logged in I was able to edit /etc/network/interfaces to configure the static IP address. However, when trying to mirror the settings and configure the other nics (Just by adding sections for eth1 and eth2) in the interf
[00:26] <LetsGo67> How do I get my Dell Inspiron Mini with the right graphics drivers?
[00:26] <Swistaczek> i see
[00:26] <cast> hiku: no
[00:26] <Swistaczek> thanks
[00:26] <hiku> cast: then why ask someone to do it when clearly you can type.
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> hiku: nice
[00:27] <hiku> cast: being this is a support channel,who are you supporting? your own thoughts and ideas about the word "free" when it comes to linux/ubuntu/fedora or are you here to troll?
[00:27] <hiku> ActionParsnip: ty bro
[00:27] <jk_> RichardRaseley, Does your VM have three network adapters installed? I could do that with VirtualBox but I don't know anything about Hyper-V.
[00:27] <LetsGo67> How do I get my Dell Inspiron Mini with BETTER video drivers?  So I can watch movies and use external screens?  Right now video is choppy.
[00:27] <paddy_melon> hiku, stop feeding the troll, ignore it
[00:27] <cast> i'm addressing the 64 bit vs 32 bit issue
[00:28] <RichardRaseley> jk_: Yes it does, they are connected to 3 different VLANs via 802.1Q
[00:28] <LetsGo67> 32 BITS WON!
[00:28] <ActionParsnip> LetsGo67: run: lspci | grep -i vga    websearch for the output
[00:28] <LetsGo67> In 2032 all computers stop working!
[00:28] <hiku> cast: #ubuntu-offtopic might be a better place for your opinions on that. they really aren't needed in this channel.
[00:28] <LetsGo67> ActionParsnip: Thanks for the advice.  Let me see
[00:29] <RichardRaseley> jk_: So eth0 works fine after I configured its properties in /etc/networking/interfaces
[00:29] <RichardRaseley> jk_: That is the one NIC that has a default GW.
[00:29] <hiku> paddy_melon: I'm done. you know when you have a thought, you just have to get it out. =)
[00:29] <paddy_melon> hiku, I understand
[00:29] <kill3r3k> jk_, GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=1280x1024 and it works as a charm, thanks!!!
[00:29] <jk_> RichardRaseley, Then /etc/network/interfaces should work provided each adapter comes up with the same "eth" number every time. You can create udev rules to force this; I use that on my own router box.
[00:30] <eternalswd_work> RichardRaseley:  I can't tell completely your issue, but make sure ifconfig -a shows all of the devices, and you may want to look at /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[00:30] <RichardRaseley> jk_: The other two didn't get picked up (or at least no settings created by default) during the install. So I just created the settings in the interfaces file.
[00:30] <lahwran> how do I install java on ubuntu? I want the official sun version
[00:30] <jrib> !java > lahwran
[00:30] <RichardRaseley> eternalswd_work: Thank you, ifconfig -a does show all devices
[00:30] <Rewire> !java
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> lahwran: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-install-sun-java-runtime-environment-jre-in-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx.html
[00:30] <eternalswd_work> RichardRaseley:  what if you do sudo ifup eth1
[00:31] <RichardRaseley> eternalswd_work: It says that interface eht1 already configured.
[00:31] <lahwran> is there a oneliner on the command line to enable a repository?
[00:31] <jk_> RichardRaseley, check the udev rules file that eternalswd_work mentioned. You may have to do some digging to get the MAC addresses for the other adapters, though.
[00:31] <RichardRaseley> eth1*
[00:31] <jrib> lahwran: yes, the one you were just told about...
[00:31] <edbian> lahwran, To add repos you edit the file /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:31] <lahwran> edbian, I know. I would prefer a oneliner >.>
[00:32] <sro> hello errbody
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> !hi | sro
[00:32] <edbian> lahwran, echo 'new repo' > /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:33] <sro> i have a question. i installed couple of programs from ubuntu software centre i but i dont see them
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> edbian: will need sudo, users dont have write access to sources.list
[00:33] <lahwran> I mean ... yeah nevermind. I know there is a way to do it and I just need to write a sed -i to do it
[00:33] <RichardRaseley> jk_, eternalswd_work: I am looking at the file now, it looks somewhat like gibberish to me, but I can see each of the 3 "PCI" devices and their names - eth0, eth1, and eth2
[00:33] <edbian> sro, Type their names at the cli.
[00:33] <edbian> sro, What programs were they?  Not all programs show up in the system menu.  Not all of them even have a gui.
[00:33] <edbian> ActionParsnip, True
[00:33] <eternalswd_work> RichardRaseley:  are they the same mac address, or different?
[00:33] <edbian> lahwran, That command as root.
[00:33] <jpds> edbian: sudo add-apt-repository 'deb ....'
[00:33] <jrib> lahwran: no, that's not the way... (you can, but there's an easier way).  Both ActionParsnip's link and the info ubottu gave you, tell you how to do it.  Read what people take the time to send you please
[00:34] <RichardRaseley> jk_, eternalswd_work: They all have their respective (different) MAC addresses there.
[00:34] <edbian> lahwran, See what jpds said?
[00:34] <Raiin> yo how do you check how much ram you have
[00:34] <sro> one waqs antivirus scanning for nautilus
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> sro: if you press ALT+F2 and start typing the name, does it suggest the apps you installed?
[00:34] <jrib> lahwran: don't run what edbian said as it will destroy your sources.list :)
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> Raiin: free -m
[00:34] <lahwran> edbian, yes. now I feel bad for being lazy.
[00:34] <edbian> Raiin, free -m
[00:34] <Raiin> thank u
[00:34] <lahwran> jrib, I figured.
[00:34] <edbian> ActionParsnip, You beat me to it! :(
[00:34] <edbian> jrib, It
[00:34] <edbian> jrib, It won't append?
[00:34] <jpds> edbian: That's >>
[00:34] <edbian> jpds, Oh!  That was at typo! :P  Whoops
[00:35] <edbian> lahwran, Sorry about that I'll be more careful next time.
[00:35] <jk_> RichardRaseley, what the file does is to force the eth names during the boot process, so that if the numbers change from one boot to the next -- which they can and often do -- they will remain corrected. It's strange at first and takes some getting used to, but I find it great in practice, since I can swap eth0 and eth2 just by editing the file and re-booting.
[00:35] <hiexpo> lahwran, or go to system < admin < software sources on your bar
[00:35] <lahwran> hiexpo, this is for a kde luser friend of mine.
[00:35] <edbian> hiexpo, He wanted a "one-liner" on the cli.
[00:35] <eternalswd_work> RichardRaseley: so you can't ping the ip address you set from within /etc/network/interfaces for eth1 or eth2?  maybe try uninstalling network-manager if it's installed
[00:35] <lahwran> apparently, kubuntu doesn't come with software sources.
[00:35] <RichardRaseley> jk_: Makes sense, thanks for the info. In this case I can see the MAC addresses and match them up to what I think they should be based on the Hyper-V manager.
[00:36] <hiexpo> edbian,  lahwran  oh ok sorry
[00:36] <RichardRaseley> eternalswd_work: I can ping the IP address that is assigned to the adapter from the Ubuntu box itself.
[00:36] <RichardRaseley> But nothing else on that network
[00:37] <geohacker> I have an issue with creating a wiki page at wiki.ubuntu.com. It says "Unknown timezone error". what is the way out?
[00:37] <hiexpo> sure it does
[00:37] <jk_> RichardRaseley, can you ping the box in question from any other place on each network?
[00:37] <LetsGo67> Will Ubuntu crash in 2032?  How do I stop that?
[00:38] <sro> thanks fellas i figured it out
[00:38] <sro> one more question... whats a good software to repair a hard drive
[00:38] <RichardRaseley> jk_: I can ping the box on the IP address associated with the NIC that I configured first (during setup).
[00:38] <hiexpo> LetsGo67, let us know when it occurs in 2032
[00:38] <RichardRaseley> jk_: But not from any of the other networks.
[00:38] <edbian> LetsGo67, It's 2038 btw
[00:38] <edbian> LetsGo67, I have a feeling the problem will be fixed by then.
[00:38] <ActionParsnip>  geohacker https://wiki.ubuntu.com/geohacker      then click edit page ;)
[00:39] <RichardRaseley> jk_: SO I have 3 NICs, one on the 192.168.1.0 / 24 network, one on the 192.168.2.0 /24 network, and one on the 192.168.3.0 / 24 network
[00:39] <hiexpo> LetsGo67, let us know when it occurs in 2032
[00:39] <jk_> RichardRaseley, Network Manager is supposed to ignore any interfaces that are defined in /etc/network/interfaces and in my experience, it does. You can add a couple of files in /etc/default to totally disable Network Manager, though. I can tell you how if you want to do so; both are one-liners.
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> geohacker: or whatever page you wish
[00:39] <hiexpo> oops
[00:39] <geohacker> ActionParsnip: but this is where I'm stuck. I need to login, during the login process it displays Unknown TImeZone Error
[00:40] <RichardRaseley> jk_: The one on the 1.0 network was configured on install as DHCP, then I went and set it to a static IP, it is the only one with a default gateway
[00:40] <RichardRaseley> jk_: Sure, it might be worth a try... I appreciate your time & help.
[00:40] <LetsGo67> How do I block the Internet from going over a certain amount of MegaBytes bandwidth in Ubuntu?
[00:40] <sro> i need a software to repair bad sectors.. any suggestions?
[00:40] <hiexpo> might as well fix it now 28 years early
[00:40] <geohacker> ActionParsnip: UnknownTimeZoneError'Asia/Kolkata'
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> geohacker: hmm
[00:40] <hiku> LetsGo67: usually you would use your router/gateway QoS for that purpose.
[00:41] <eternalswd_work> RichardRaseley: so 192.168.1.0 / 24 works but the others don't?
[00:41] <infid> how can i mount an iso image?
[00:41] <geohacker> ActionParsnip: no what? :(
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> geohacker: could try in #ubuntu-meeting maybe
[00:41] <RichardRaseley> eternalswd_work: Yes. Only things of note are that it was the first interface configured during setup and the only interface that has a default gateway defined.
[00:41] <geohacker> ActionParsnip: #ubuntu-meeting ?
[00:41] <hiku> LetsGo67: you can also check out - http://www.ubuntugeek.com/use-bandwidth-shapers-wondershaper-or-trickle-to-limit-internet-connection-speed.html
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> infid: sudo mkdir /media/iso; sudo mount -o loop /path/to/file.iso /media/iso
[00:41] <jk_> RichardRaseley, The file names are Network-Manager and Network-Manager-Dispatcher and each contains the single word exit. I used this initially on 8.04 but it seems to work on 10.04 also.
[00:42] <infid> ActionParsnip: thanks
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> geohacker: it's where I got my cloak when i became a member :D
[00:42] <RichardRaseley> jk_: Forgive me lack of familiarity with Ubuntu - but what are you suggesting I do with those two files?
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> infid: also http://www.ubuntugeek.com/mount-isos-easely-in-gnome-nautilus.html   can be used in nautilus :D
[00:42] <LetsGo67> hiku: But it is a 3G modem stick.
[00:42] <infid> ActionParsnip: nice
[00:42] <LetsGo67> For Wi-Fi I would use OpenDNS.
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> infid: the command line is pretty simple though
[00:43] <jk_> RichardRaseley, The command I used was "sudo echo "exit" >/etc/default/Default-Manager" and the same thing with different filename for the other. Takes effect at the next re-boot.
[00:44] <geohacker> ActionParsnip: No response from the channel
[00:44] <hiku> LetsGo67: ah, no idea...
[00:44] <edbian> geohacker, They don't know what you're talking about.  Not everybody in there is in here reading this too.
[00:44] <LetsGo67> Hiku: This is wonderful for slowing down the Internet, if need be.  However, how do I count my megabytes?  Is there a widget?
[00:44] <edbian> geohacker, In fact I'm probably the only person that is.
[00:44] <eternalswd_work> RichardRaseley: are you sure the other two NICs are bridged properly in Hyper-V?  Make sure they are External and not Internal or Private
[00:44] <iceroot> jk_: sudo echo is not working correctly imo, you have to use tee
[00:44] <RichardRaseley> jk_: So do that for both Network-Manager and Network-Manager-Dispatcher
[00:45] <hiku> LetsGo67: screenlets or conky have ways to sum up and watch your network traffic
[00:45] <RichardRaseley> eternalswd_work: Yes, I am sure they are connected to the proper external network with the proper 802.1Q tag associated with them.
[00:45] <jk_> RichardRaseley, yep; I didn't use sudo to put them into 10.04, just copied from my 8.04 installation.
[00:45] <hiku> LetsGo67: or better yet, install iftop..
[00:46] <RichardRaseley> jk_ Hmm.. it says permission denied when I run: sudo ech "exit">/etc/default/Network-Manager
[00:46] <jk_> eternalswd_work, RichardRaseley : very good point!
[00:46] <RichardRaseley> echo*
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> geohacker: could try #freenode , not very freenode related but they may be able to point you someplace nice
[00:46] <miniuser> yaeh : )
[00:46] <LetsGo67> Hiku: Can I add it to the menu bar, just like the time?
[00:46] <LetsGo67> The clock?
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> RichardRaseley: sudo doesn't traverse the > character
[00:46] <eternalswd_work> RichardRaseley: have you tried running /etc/init.d/networking restart or restarting the server?
[00:46] <hiku> LetsGo67: not iftop
[00:47] <RichardRaseley> eternalswd_work: I have tried restarting network, but not a full server reboot
[00:47] <hiexpo> ^ 3g card
[00:47] <edbian> hiexpo, hi btw
[00:47] <hiexpo> hey edbian
[00:47] <Habstinat> Hey, probably easy problem to fix here, but none of the images sent in emails are showing up for me in Empathy. I just recently set Empathy up, and they all show in Gmail, but images in Empathy just show up as that little red circle with a cross on a photo background.
[00:47] <hiku> LetsGo67: iftop runs in a terminal. conky is a widget, an screenlets has a bunch of widgets that just float around on your desktop whereever you place them
[00:48] <edbian> LetsGo67, To install any one of them you run "sudo apt-get <theirName>"
[00:48] <RichardRaseley> ActionParsnip: So how should I try to run that command?
[00:48] <eternalswd_work> RichardRaseley, jk_ you can always "sudo -s" to get a root shell, run the one command without sudo, then exit the root shell.
[00:48] <RichardRaseley> eternalswd_work: OK, will try that.
[00:48] <LetsGo67> hiku and edbian, let's see...
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> RichardRaseley: echo something | sudo tee /path/to/file
[00:49] <edbian> LetsGo67, conky is hard to set up.  You need to manually write an exhaustive config file.  Many people copy / paste someone elses.
[00:49] <edbian> LetsGo67, screenlets is probably the easiest.  The entire setup is gui driven.
[00:49] <RichardRaseley> ActionParsnip: Thank you for the info.
[00:49] <LetsGo67> Edbian: thanks.  Conky scared me!
[00:49] <edbian> LetsGo67, What was the third choice?
[00:49] <RichardRaseley> eternalswd_work, jk_ : OK, so I did that - now I will try to restart the server
[00:49] <edbian> LetsGo67, Conky is powerful.  Just not easy to set up.
[00:50] <LetsGo67> iftop but terminal.
[00:50] <hiku> LetsGo67: yeah conky is a bit nuts.
[00:50] <hiexpo> i love conky
[00:50] <edbian> LetsGo67, Oh yes.  iftop.  Iftop is entirely cli.  It's kinda nice though
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> LetsGo67: edbian pretty good conky file here: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/conky-a-light-weight-system-monitor-for-ubuntu-linux-systems.html
[00:51] <hiku> ActionParsnip: that url paste you just did is broken... 2 lines
[00:51] <edbian> ActionParsnip, That one is pretty on 8.04
[00:51] <RichardRaseley> eternalswd_work, jk_ : Well, after a server reboot I have the same symptoms.
[00:51] <edbian> hiku, It worked for me.
[00:51] <wele> hello,  i have problem with every restart icons changing position how i fix that
[00:51] <hiku> edbian: hmm, let me try agian =)
[00:52] <hiku> edbian: doh! my weechat window wasn't open large enough... odd
[00:52] <hiexpo> wele,  right click on them than lock to panel
[00:52] <edbian> hiku, That's a bug!
[00:52] <ActionParsnip> hiku: http://pastie.org/1121547   is the file on its own
[00:52] <wele> bluetooth and wireless icon and langauge bar
[00:52] <LetsGo67> edbian: I'm confused.  Screenlet won't actually track, even after changing to wlan0.
[00:52] <jk_> RichardRaseley, you did make the change to /etc/sysctl as described earlier today, didn't you? If not that might have something to do with this...
[00:53] <edbian> LetsGo67, I'm not sure.  I didn't write that software nor am I using it.
[00:53] <RichardRaseley> jk_: I don't recall those changes mentioned, sorry about that...
[00:53] <wele> how i change position
[00:53] <hiku> ActionParsnip: nice bro... thank you. Mine looks very close to that... but I like the one you sent better
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> hiku: its ubuntugeek s/he's usually on the money
[00:53] <RichardRaseley> jk_: It appears that /etc/sysctl doesn't exist...?
[00:54] <ilovefairuz> !away > zz_slidinghorn
[00:54] <LetsGo67> Edbian: Thanks.
[00:54] <edbian> LetsGo67, Good luck with it!
[00:54] <LetsGo67> Edbian: Thank you for the info.  :)  Not too sure about luck.  ;)
[00:55] <LetsGo67> Edbian: But I will use XP less, now that the Huawei stick works in Ubuntu.  :)
[00:55] <jk_> RichardRaseley, It was to enable ipv4 forwarding; the line in /etc/sysctl is "net.ipv4.ip_forward=1" and it's originally commented out. Remove the comment, then run "sudo sysctl -p" to reload and enable forwarding between the different interfaces.
[00:55] <edbian> LetsGo67, Glad to hear it.  Linux is great!
[00:55] <hiexpo> wele, i have always noticed that the volume and network manager are not stable they flip but try right click and move than lock to panel
[00:56] <jk_> RichardRaseley, sorry, that's /etc/sysctl.conf -- my bad!
[00:56] <RichardRaseley> jk_: Oh, I recall now - from a while ago.
[00:56] <RichardRaseley> OK - thanks
[00:56] <LetsGo67> Edbian and Hiku: Thanks, and see you next time in #ubuntu!
[00:57] <fcuk112> trying to install guest additions in virtualbox (kubuntu) - anyone know where it mounts the iso?  it's not in /media/ or /mnt/
[00:58] <RichardRaseley> jk_: Completed that - same symptoms.
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> fcuk112: i recommend you power off the guest, set the iso to be mounted at boot in the VM config and power on
[00:58] <RichardRaseley> jk_: I appreciate your help, but I might have to pick this up tomorrow / Monday.
[00:58] <RichardRaseley> jk_: Thanks again
[00:59] <RichardRaseley> eternalswd_work: I appreciate your help as well! Thanks a bunch to both.
[00:59] <fcuk112> ActionParsnip, thanks will give that a try.
[00:59] <bluLDG12345> can i upgrade a previous ubuntu version to become the latest 10.4 just via the synaptics?
[01:00] <jk_> RichardRaseley, understood! I had to fiddle with the settings for almost a week before I got my router box set up to do what I wanted -- and then had to reformat and do it all over again. I do have gateways set up for each interface in the route table, btw. That might make a difference.
[01:00] <bluLDG12345> no CDs involve..
[01:00] <edbian> bluLDG12345, Yep!  That's the point of the package manager!
[01:00] <edbian> bluLDG12345, Provided you're on the internet.
[01:00] <iwobbles> Trying to run KLinkStatus but have forgotten the command from terminal, I tried serching for it on the hard drive but can't seem to locate it, software center tells me it is installed, I just don't know where or how to start it
[01:01] <bluLDG12345> so there's not that much breakage and such?
[01:01] <edbian> bluLDG12345, Very very little if any.
[01:01] <edbian> bluLDG12345, Would you like to know how?
[01:01] <bluLDG12345> yes
[01:01] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | bluLDG12345
[01:02] <edbian> bluLDG12345, The system is designed to be upgraded from version to version.
[01:02] <duongthaiha> HI there I have a .sh file and i used it so many time.  At the moment, everytime i want to run it at some directory i have to copy it over. Is that possible to make it available everywhere and how? thanks  a lot
[01:02] <matrix__> hey guys! my ubuntu all of the sudden stopped unraring
[01:02] <matrix__> hey guys! my ubuntu all of the sudden stopped unraring
[01:02] <Bo|Su> Can a PCI raid controller be used in conjunction (unison) with a motherboard native raid capabilities to create a larger stack? (without a total assembly write)
[01:02] <matrix__> how can i make it unrar again
[01:02] <edbian> bluLDG12345, System -> Admin -> software sources.  Switch the releases from LTS to normal. Close that and open System -> admin -> update manager
[01:03] <edbian> bluLDG12345, It should appear at the top their.
[01:03] <ActionParsnip> Bo|Su: sure, fakeraid can handle those nicely (afaik)
[01:03] <CHaodzip> how to use lzm2dir in ubuntu?
[01:03] <edbian> duongthaiha, Yeah.  As root put it in /usr/local/bin
[01:03] <edbian> duongthaiha, Then you can use it anywhere.
[01:03] <Bo|Su> ty
[01:04] <duongthaiha> edbian: cheers thanks  a lot for that :D
[01:04] <edbian> duongthaiha, Yep!  :)
[01:05] <Mathuin> One of the indicators on my top panel has disappeared -- the user-switch/power one.  How do I get it back?
[01:05] <Habstinat> So can anyone help me out? In case you didn't see my problem earlier: "Hey, probably easy problem to fix here, but none of the images sent in emails are showing up for me in Empathy. I just recently set Empathy up, and they all show in Gmail, but images in Empathy just show up as that little red circle with a cross on a photo background."
[01:05] <HPL> Hi, I have a question regarding using kernels with PAE
[01:06] <edbian> !pae
[01:06] <CHaodzip> I have a .lzm file how to use it?
[01:07] <coz_> CHaodzip,  what is this file for?
[01:08] <CHaodzip> coz_:spoonwpa.lzm
[01:08] <hiku> ActionParsnip: hiexpo, have a good one... =)
[01:08] <coz_> CHaodzip,  and what do you want to do with it?
[01:08] <CHaodzip> coz_:for wlan crack
[01:08] <cobelloy> if I do a distribution upgrade with the update manager will I still have the option to boot the dist I have now in grub, like when you do a kernel update?
[01:08] <jrib> CHaodzip: I assume you would use lzma...
[01:08] <coz_> CHaodzip,  oh not sure but  I did find a few links for dealing with that file format
[01:09] <coz_> CHaodzip,    http://mytechoos.blogspot.com/2009/10/lzm-files-in-ubuntu.html
[01:09] <Mathuin> I checked the forums re: lost power button, but I don't see the one I lost -- it had log out, user switch, restart, all together.
[01:10] <coz_> CHaodzip,  if you want more links ...in goole.....   ubuntu .lzm
[01:10] <HPL> my question regarding using PAE kernels is a little more advanced. I have a Thinkpad X201 and there was an intel driver bug which was patched in a 2.6.32- custom kernel provided by a kernel team member. The problem is that this kernel doesn't have PAE. As of 2.6.35-2 maverick (via mainline kernel ppa), the problem is fixed. Is it possible to have 2.6.35-2-maverick with PAE or would I need to compile the kernel myself?
[01:11] <JNGodbout> Hi guys - How can add a Korean Dictionary source to the Ubuntu Dictionary program?
[01:11] <will> I want to make a LiveCD that doesn't automatically eject the CD when I shut down.  Is there a simple command I can add so some file on the CD?
[01:11] <edbian> HPL, Does the thinkpad have that much ram?
[01:11] <bastid_raZor> cobelloy: no, you will have the newly updated distro only.
[01:11] <bivo> Are there drivers for a Motorolla W175G? In windows it asks for W180 Mobile and LOCOSTO drivers.
[01:11] <HPL> yes, I just added another 2GB. 4GB total so i'd like to use PAE instead of 64bit
[01:11] <rg-tom> evening
[01:12] <rg-tom> does anyone here have any experience of auto mounting smb shares using fstab where the smb share is on a windows domain, thus needing windows domain auth?
[01:12] <CHaodzip> coz_:I TRY ,AND GET A FILE NAMED LZM2DIR I DON'T HOW TO USE IT
[01:12] <jk_> Mathuin, The "tool tip" on my button calls it "Quit" so you might search for that. I'm using xubuntu but with the Gnome icon theme, and it's included in the list of plug-ins for the panel.
[01:13] <GORE-Daddy> I have just upgraded to Lucid Lynx and my wxt terminal in gnuplot has disappeared after the upgrade.  Can someone tell me how to get the old white window terminal going again.
[01:13] <coz_> CHaodzip,   you go me on this one   not sure either
[01:13] <jrib> CHaodzip: stop with the caps, why don't you just use lzma like I suggested?
[01:14] <cobelloy> bastid_raZor, is there a way to keep both in case the new doesnt work right?
[01:14] <will> I want to make a LiveCD that doesn't automatically eject the CD when I shut down. Is there a simple command I can add so some file on the CD?
[01:14] <cobelloy> or should I just keep 9.10 if its working well?
[01:14] <xangua> HPL: there is a kernel ppa https://launchpad.net/~kernel-ppa/%2Barchive/ppa and there is also another that i use for kernel and better performance https://launchpad.net/~guido-iodice/+archive/best-intel . PD. use PPA's under your own risk, you can easily remove them with ppa-purge (if you don't have it or you don't know what it is google it  ;) )
[01:14] <cast> will: could use liveusb too :)
[01:14] <bastid_raZor> cobelloy: not by doing a dist-upgrade no. you would need to do a fresh install on a new partition.
[01:15] <will> Thanks, but I really need to do it on a CD
[01:15] <Bo|Su> How does one access their home router for means of flashing? I understand the process but do not know how folks work from terminal with it.
[01:15] <JNGodbout> Is there any way to add a Korean source to the Ubuntu Dictionary?
[01:15] <jrib> Bo|Su: not really an ubuntu question
[01:16] <xiong> I'd like to discuss nonstandard metadata. Is anyone up for this? I have a few specific questions, such as: Is there any accepted method for storing/using arbitrary (user-defined) metadata for files and folders? Of course, I'm always willing to be told where else I might go.
[01:16] <Bo|Su> it the only place to ask it. its in regards to open source software...
[01:16] <bastid_raZor> Bo|Su: possibly ask in ##networking
[01:16] <ActionParsnip> will: you can use the remaster cd docs but I am not sure where the option resides
[01:16] <Bo|Su> k
[01:16] <mint> hi all
[01:16] <coz_> xiong,   off hand I dont know  but  if no one else knows you could try the ##linux channel
[01:17] <mint> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling%20from%20LiveCD ... trying to do this after a grub error 15
[01:17] <jrib> xiong: http://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/category/gvfs/
[01:17] <xiong> coz_, Gonna talk there, too. I find the guys here on #ubuntu are very sharp and helpful.
[01:17] <coz_> xiong,  oh cool
[01:17] <_NGS_> hello all
[01:17] <jrib> xiong: more specifically, http://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/2009/06/24/data-about-data/ But I'd try a gvfs channel on gnome's network
[01:18] <HPL> xangua, thank you, I will try that PPA (yes i am familiar with using them). Will this allow for PAE? I understand PAE has changed in 10.04 (linux-headers-pae, etc are required now?)
[01:18] <jrib> xiong: and of course, I'd go read official gvfs docs at this point as that blog post is dated, but I remembered reading it :)
[01:18] <xiong> I spent literally months working on a Perl project, discussing it with Perlers. I came to #ubuntu and learned in a minute that what I'd imagined was called an "orthogonal file manager". That's extra cool.
[01:18] <jrib> !away > zz_slidinghorn
[01:19] <bivo> Are there linux drivers for the Motorolla W175G? In windows it asks for W180 Mobile and LOCOSTO drivers.
[01:19] <Himythu> is there someone here that can help me with a little wireless network problem?
[01:19]  * xiong reads, jrib
[01:19] <xangua> HPL: no idea, i don't use pae
[01:19] <psycho_oreos> Himythu, ask and you may receive
[01:19] <CHaodzip> jrib:installing
[01:19] <HPL> xangua, thank you for your assistance. i should be able to manage from here
[01:20] <Himythu> well, now this suddenly my stationary computer wont find my wireless network, still it find all my neighbours :S
[01:20] <psycho_oreos> try running iwlist <dev> scan
[01:20] <ActionParsnip> Himythu: restart the router
[01:21] <_NGS_> i have problem which build kernel module. Build successfully, but where i run 'inmod code_1.ko' i see: WARNING: "init_mm" [/home/ngs/test/module/code_1.ko] undefined!
[01:21] <_NGS_> uname -r > 2.6.32-24-generic
[01:21] <Himythu> itried to restart the router several times, plus i am using this wireless connection thru my netbook using a linux distro
[01:21] <_NGS_> anyone knows what could be the problem?
[01:22] <jolson> Hi! I have an ISO-image of a CD containing both audio and data tracks. How do I extract the audio tracks from this image file?
[01:22] <kuttan_>  Have a bad package entry in my systems apt database, and the name persists despite the removal  of the package . How can I get rid of this entry
[01:22] <kuttan_>  synaptic show post_install script failure
[01:24] <xiong> Interesting, jrib. Not sure exactly where this fits into my needs but yes, interesting.
[01:24] <jrib> xiong: you mean in the sense that gvfs isn't really standard outside of a gnome-ish environment?
[01:25] <Himythu> iwlist wlan0 scan did not work either.. :(
[01:25] <xiong> Oh, I use GNOME; I'm not looking for anything that goes beyond it (although that sort of thing is always nice).
[01:25] <Himythu> it just finds what i already see
[01:25] <JNGodbout> 안
[01:25] <shazz-ubuntu> I'm trying to get my network printer to work, but when I try to connect it hangs on searching for drivers
[01:26] <shazz-ubuntu> but I double-check and the drivers are installed
[01:26] <shazz-ubuntu> any ideas
[01:26] <_NGS_> nobody? =(
[01:26] <shazz-ubuntu> ?
[01:26] <_NGS_> i have problem which build kernel module. Build successfully, but where i run 'inmod code_1.ko' i see: WARNING: "init_mm" [/home/ngs/test/module/code_1.ko] undefined!
[01:26] <xiong> jrib, Let me try a small, concrete example. I'd like to be able to tag files and folders with one or several short words and use the tags, say, to find files later, instead of searching by some filename shell glob.
[01:29] <Himythu> someone have any idea to my problem?
[01:29] <randomusr> why doesn't cat display .odf files properly?
[01:29] <jrib> xiong: well I think tracker implements its own thing as far as tagging files goes.  I don't think there's a single standard way
[01:29] <Guest56978> Correction - why doesn't cat display .odt files properly?
[01:30] <infid> because they're not ascci text
[01:30] <infid> ascii
[01:30] <infid> they're binary
[01:30] <xiong> jrib, I won't worry about 'standard'. I'll look at Tracker more closely.
[01:30] <jrib> xiong: are you looking to create your own program?  Or find a solution as a user?
[01:30] <edbian> Guest56978, It does.  There is a lot of markup in a .odt file.  The markup makes the text this font of that point left aligned blah blah.
[01:30] <Himythu> anyone? =)
[01:30] <edbian> Guest56978, cat shows the raw file.  open office shows the text hiding the markup.
[01:31] <jolson> Hello! What program is recommended for ripping audio tracks from an ISO-image of a CD?
[01:31] <Guest56978> edbian, is it possible to display only the text portion of an odt file at the command line?
[01:31] <xiong> Preferably, jrib, solution as user. I have enough on my plate. I'm not afraid to stick in my fork, though; but yes, call me lazy. I'd rather grab a burger than grow my own cow.
[01:31] <Guest56978> or would the file need to be ascii?
[01:32] <edbian> Guest56978, You view only the text using open office.
[01:32] <jrib> xiong: I think tracker is the way to go.  That's the only system I know of anyway
[01:32]  * xiong reads
[01:32] <th0r> jolson: mount the iso file to a folder (mount point) and then use grip or whatever as though it was a CD
[01:32] <will> How do I use the Ubuntu forum search to look for ALL my search terms?  I tried "+auto+eject" but the result includes posts that only have one of the words.
[01:32] <edbian> Guest56978, You cannot view a .odt file without open office.
[01:32] <th0r> edbian: abiword?
[01:33] <will> How do I use the Ubuntu forum search to look for ALL my search terms?  I tried "+auto+eject" but the result includes posts that only have one of the words.
[01:33] <edbian> Guest56978, abiword probably could view it.
[01:34] <bazhang_> will, try #ubuntuforums
[01:34] <will> sorry.  thanks.
[01:34] <jolson> th0r: If I mount it, isn't it then only the files I get access to, rather than the audio tracks?
[01:34] <lubun2> u
[01:35] <Guest56978> edbian, thanks. I'll keep it easy. Was just messing around with some commands against useless files
[01:35] <edbian> Guest56978, Having fun I hope!!! :D
[01:35] <Guest56978> edbian, not till I start using wireshark, and yes having great fun
[01:36] <Guest56978> hehehe
[01:36] <monotoko> hiya guys...was wondering if anyone knows how i stop a certain remote user on my machine using "su"
[01:36] <th0r> jolson: I think if you mount it you will see whatever was on the original cd
[01:37] <Guest56978> btw, does anyone know where/how to install non free fonts?
[01:41] <Merritt> Having a strange problem. Just got a new KVM, it is hooked up to a Ubuntu machine, and a Xubuntu machine. Manual states switching hotkey is Scroll Lock + Scroll Lock, but this does not work - googling reveals this to be a common problem with Unixes and this KVM, however many say Num Lock + Num Lock works, it works to switch from Ubuntu TO Xubuntu, however nothing so far will work to switch the other way. Any one have any insight?
[01:41] <Merritt> sorry - Having a strange problem. Just got a new KVM, it is hooked up to a Ubuntu machine, and a Xubuntu machine. Manual states switching hotkey is Scroll Lock + Scroll Lock, but this does not work - googling reveals this to be a common problem with Unixes and this KVM, however many say Num Lock + Num Lock works, it works to switch from Ubuntu TO Xubuntu, however nothing so far will work to switch the other way. Any one have any insight?
[01:41] <jolson> th0r: I'm afraid there is no place for audio tracks in the filesystem, so mounting it doesn't help. (I even played around with it just now.) Thanks anyway.
[01:41] <Himythu> pthis suddenly my stationary computer wont find my wireless network, still it find all my neighbours :S
[01:44] <crazy2k_> Does someone want to give me a hand wit this? It's a question SCHED_FIFO's behaviour. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3588842/is-it-possible-to-hang-a-linux-box-with-a-sched-fifo-process
[01:45] <i|Nova> Ok, guys, I managed to screw up ubuntu once again. :(
[01:45] <i|Nova> Gnome won't run after installing a few themes which worked fine before restart
[01:45] <i|Nova> it just shows me the console
[01:45] <i|Nova> and that's it
[01:45] <bazhang_> i|Nova, then remove them
[01:46] <i|Nova> question is, how?
[01:46] <i|Nova> gnome won't start..
[01:46] <bivo> Are there linux drivers for the Motorolla W175G? In windows it asks for W180 Mobile and LOCOSTO drivers.
[01:46] <monotoko> i|Nova, have you tried to run startx?
[01:47] <i|Nova> I'm kind of *nix illiterate, elaborate?
[01:47] <LucidGuy> Hows the linux world syncing music to their iphone?  Anyways of doing it so that the native ipod app sees them?
[01:48] <aeon-ltd> i|Nova: startx in tty1 (the terminal you log into)
[01:48] <monotoko> i|Nova, log into the console and type startx
[01:48] <garme> is someone UCP?
[01:48] <i|Nova> oh, no. i just sighed and booted up the live cd after restarting twice
[01:48] <i|Nova> right, but i'll have to restart to do so
[01:48] <i|Nova> what does startx do anyways?
[01:49] <papna_> It starts x.
[01:49] <ThePCKid> Starts the X server
[01:49] <monotoko> thats not gonna help you here...you need some commands...startx will start your graphical environment
[01:49] <aeon-ltd> i|Nova: it starts x
[01:49] <aeon-ltd> lawl
[01:49] <kawfish> I can't connect to a hidden network (that I know is working). Any suggestions?
[01:49] <ThePCKid> LOL
[01:49] <ThePCKid> 2 people ninja'd
[01:49] <ThePCKid> By me
[01:49] <i|Nova> I'm gonna restart then
[01:49] <i|Nova> captain oblivious, away!
[01:49] <a> TTTTTTTTTTHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEEEEPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKIIIIDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
[01:49] <monotoko> guys....you cant say it starts x...when he probably has no idea what 'x' is XD
[01:50] <aeon-ltd> ThePCKid: you have my respect, sir
[01:50] <a> ThePCKid: TTTTTTTTTTHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEEEEPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKIIIIDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
[01:50] <raposa> exit
[01:50] <ThePCKid> GNOME is a desktop environment for X11. So are KDE, LXDE, and Xfce
[01:50] <a> ThePCKid: TTTTTTTTTTHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEEEEPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKIIIIDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
[01:50] <aeon-ltd> i|Nova: it starts Xorg (X) the foundation of graphical environments
[01:50] <ThePCKid> @a: What.
[01:51] <This_Guy> I'm probably in the wrong area, but can someone assist me in putting my videos into the Matroska video container?
[01:51] <a> IIIIIII LLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOVVVVVVVVVVVVVEEEEEEEE YYYYYYYYYYOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUU
[01:51] <ThePCKid> @a: O_e
[01:51] <monotoko> ThePCKid, you have a fan o.o
[01:51] <a> MMMMAEAAAAAAARRRRRYYYYYYYYYY MMMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
[01:51] <papna_> What's the best way to do encrypted backups?
[01:52] <ThePCKid> @monotoko: ...and (s)he is taking it too far :P
[01:52] <This_Guy> Wish I coul help you papna? :s
[01:52] <monotoko> papna_, i suspect the best way would to be to tar it unencrypted....then encrypt the tar file?
[01:53] <cached1> i think my printer un-added me as an allowed user. how would i re-add myself?
[01:53] <ThePCKid> @a: STOP SPAMMING MEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:53] <kawfish> papna_: I try to avoid that. There is nothing worse than backups you can't read. My recommend is truecrypt + rsync or other backup util
[01:53] <monotoko> ThePCKid, hes gone
[01:53] <monotoko> he aint in this room anyways
[01:53] <ThePCKid> @monotoko: YAY
[01:53] <This_Guy> Tried crypt keeper, but I was afraid when I could delete the mounts w/o a password :|
[01:54] <cached1> anyone know what the command for the printing dialog is?
[01:54] <CHaodzip> cached1: I agree with you
[01:54] <cached1> CHaodzip: ?
[01:54] <ThePCKid> gnome-print? Probably not...
[01:54] <monotoko> does anyone know how to stop a user using "su"?
[01:55] <i|Nova> welp
[01:55] <monotoko> wb i|Nova
[01:55] <i|Nova> that didnt work
[01:55] <Flannel> monotoko: What do you mean?
[01:55] <CHaodzip> cached1:sorry, It for ThePCKid
[01:55] <monotoko> Flannel, i have an SSH user...i dont want it to be able to use su into another account
[01:55] <papna_> monotoko: Not sanely.
[01:55] <i|Nova> startx brought me to a bluish screen with something in the middle, had a hard drive icon only , nothing else
[01:55] <i|Nova> didnt do anything
[01:55] <i|Nova> so i clicked on it and it brought me to a black screen
[01:55] <i|Nova> with the mouse
[01:56] <i|Nova> which also did nothing
[01:56] <monotoko> i|Nova, sounds...fun?
[01:56] <i|Nova> sounds bad
[01:56] <i|Nova> :(
[01:56] <FloodBot3> i|Nova: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:56] <ThePCKid> *starts VBox*
[01:56] <i|Nova> Any ideas?
[01:57] <monotoko> i|Nova, what was the last thing you did?
[01:57] <Flannel> monotoko: The easiest way to do that would be to make sure that user doesn't know the other accounts passwords.
[01:58] <monotoko> Flannel, i did...the user in question was bruteforcing
[01:58] <i|Nova> installed pidgin, installed 2 themes, applied one theme, removed cairo-dock (friend did this), added docky
[01:58] <i|Nova> that's it really
[01:58] <monotoko> i|Nova, do you remember the name of the theme you applied?
[01:59] <mbroeker> monotoko, edit /etc/pam.d/su and uncomment the pam_wheel.so line. users needs to be in group wheel to use su
[01:59] <ThePCKid> How do you kill the X server without restarting it on Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS?
[01:59] <queuetip> my problems usually lie between the keyboard and the chair : D
[01:59] <queuetip> ThePCKid - there's a shortcut for it, it's usually ctrl + alt + backspace i think
[01:59] <i|Nova> http://art.gnome.org/themes/gtk2 Cillop-midnite and clearlooks-darkorange
[01:59] <queuetip> lemme check
[01:59] <This_Guy> LOL queuetip :D
[02:00] <monotoko> queuetip, that restarts it
[02:00] <ThePCKid> @queuetip: Disabled on Ubuntu by default
[02:00] <i|Nova> mono, does cairo have anything to do with gnome?
[02:00] <ThePCKid> @queuetip: Enabling it just restarts the X server
[02:00] <chavo> try service gdm stop
[02:00] <ThePCKid> Okay
[02:00] <zzzed> ThePCKid, you might try 'telinit 2'
[02:00] <monotoko> i|Nova, i shoudlnt think so...try disabling the theme first
[02:00] <queuetip> ThePCKid - try sudo killall dgm
[02:00] <queuetip> gdm*
[02:01] <i|Nova> how do i disable it without getting into gnome
[02:01] <cast> queuetip: /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[02:01] <cast> erm, sorry, ThePCKid
[02:01] <ThePCKid> All of them didn't work
[02:02] <ThePCKid> And I did su root
[02:02] <ThePCKid> I mean sudo
[02:02] <monotoko> from the command line: login then type "cd ./.themes" then "rm -R <theme>"
[02:02] <queuetip> THePCKid: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=48780
[02:02] <monotoko> replace: <theme> with whatever the theme is called
[02:02] <chavo> running init scripts gives an error now to use the service comand
[02:02] <i|Nova> another question
[02:02] <i|Nova> how do i connect to a wifi network using the terminal
[02:02] <monotoko> if you cant remember, use "ls -a" to see the themes that are in there
[02:02] <monotoko> i|Nova, simple answer...you dont, complex answer...you spend hours
[02:03] <i|Nova> haha ok
[02:03] <ThePCKid> Trying that...
[02:03] <garme> Guys, are there some UCP here?
[02:03] <i|Nova> i'll try removing the themes
[02:03] <monotoko> dont remove em all
[02:03] <monotoko> just the one you applied
[02:03] <monotoko> "ls -a" will show you which ones are there
[02:04] <monotoko> login -> "cd ./.themes" -> "ls -a" -> "rm -R <theme>"
[02:04] <hiexpo> ls -a sows all software
[02:04] <hiexpo> ^shows
[02:04] <ThePCKid> mv: cannot stat `/etc/rc2.d/S13gdm': No such file or directory
[02:05] <monotoko> hiexpo, all files and folders
[02:05] <i|Nova> alright
[02:05] <i|Nova> brb
[02:05] <hiexpo> yup
[02:07] <hiexpo> why don't hejust right click on desktop and change sesktop theme and remove it that way
[02:07] <monotoko> hiexpo, because he cant get to the desktop
[02:07] <hiexpo> oh
[02:07] <chavo> i think the themes is crashing gnome
[02:07] <hiexpo> whattheme is it
[02:08] <monotoko> no idea...but hopefully he doesnt misfire the rm command >.>
[02:08] <hiexpo> ya rm   oops
[02:09] <hiexpo> how did he install the theme
[02:09] <monotoko> especially with that -R option...i hate telling people to use it
[02:09] <hiexpo> dangerous
[02:09] <monotoko> indeed...but he aint root...so it should be okay
[02:10] <hiexpo> but he will have to be root to rm -r
[02:10] <jellow> at worse he could only lose all hist personal data ;P
[02:10] <monotoko> hiexpo, nahh..not if its his data
[02:10] <monotoko> which the themes are
[02:10] <monotoko> jellow, aye -.-"
[02:10] <hiexpo> oh ok
[02:11] <monotoko> jellow...at least itl solve the theme problem? :D
[02:11] <hiexpo> how did he install the theme and what distro 9 or 10
[02:11] <monotoko> hiexpo, not sure
[02:11] <jellow> monotoko: yes hopefuly
[02:12] <hiexpo> usually if a theme is notcompatable it won'tlet you install it
[02:12] <i|Nova> nada.
[02:12] <i|Nova> :(
[02:12] <monotoko> i|Nova, what happened?
[02:12] <i|Nova> nothing changed
[02:13] <i|Nova> i removed the themes
[02:13] <monotoko> did you reboot it afterwards?
[02:13] <i|Nova> yeah
[02:13] <monotoko> hmmm
[02:13] <i|Nova> tried startx, but for some reason startx doesnt work now
[02:13] <rohithwiz> I need help removing Ubuntu, windows does not reconize the ext4 partion
[02:14] <linux> together ?? radeon 4550 ' on crossfire board
[02:14] <monotoko> i|Nova, time for a graphics reinstall then
[02:14] <monotoko> can you plug the computer into an ethernet socket?
[02:14] <i|Nova> no :(
[02:15] <i|Nova> hence why i asked about wifi
[02:15] <rohithwiz> I need help removing Ubuntu, windows does not reconize the ext4 partion
[02:15] <i|Nova> rohi no need to repeat..
[02:15] <monotoko> rohithwiz, google it...if you just delete the partition you wwont be able to boot anything
[02:15] <ThePCKid> @rohithwiz: Uninstall Ubuntu from the add/remove window if you used Wubi
[02:15] <monotoko> i|Nova, have you got any removable media?
[02:16] <i|Nova> using an USB stick right now
[02:16] <i|Nova> with live cd
[02:16] <rohithwiz> monotoko: Then what i do because when boot from the CD it says no drives avaliable
[02:16] <monotoko> right...one sec while i refresh my memory i|Nova
[02:16] <TiK> question: my bios shows 4 gigs.. memtest shows 4 gigs but free -m -g shos 3 gigs???????????????????????
[02:16] <i|Nova> monotoko: try running gparted from the ubuntu live cd
[02:17] <monotoko> i|Nova, i think you meant rohithwiz ? :P
[02:17] <CkhiKuzad> I can't get UNetbootin running for some reason. i've tried downloading the ISOs with the program itself, nothing. tried to boot a 10.04 ISO, nothing yet again. also no matter what i do, i make a 40_custom entry for it, and then i update it, then it freaking says menuentry: command not found. I really need some help with this crap.
[02:17] <i|Nova> oh
[02:17] <i|Nova> yeah
[02:17] <i|Nova> sorry
[02:18] <TiK> CkhiKuzad: I hve unetbootin
[02:18] <i|Nova> me too.
[02:18] <monotoko> i|Nova, what version of ubuntu ye running?
[02:18] <CkhiKuzad> alright, cah you two help me?
[02:18] <i|Nova> lucid lynx 10.4
[02:18] <i|Nova> 10.04*
[02:18] <ThePCKid> ...or 10.04.1?
[02:18] <TiK> CkhiKuzad: sudo apt0get install unetbootin
[02:18] <CkhiKuzad> -.-
[02:18] <i|Nova> 10.04.20.04034.93492034924.93
[02:19] <TiK> apt-get
[02:19] <i|Nova> heh
[02:19] <CkhiKuzad> i have the program, the problems of using it wouldnt arise unless i had it installed.
[02:19] <TiK> so whats the problem?
[02:19] <i|Nova> ckhi, you trying to do this to usb or cd/dvd?
[02:19] <CkhiKuzad> my hard drive.
[02:19] <i|Nova> oh
[02:20] <rohithwiz> i|Nova:  Where do i find the gparted
[02:20] <i|Nova> I've only used unetbootin to make a bootable usb stick, i'm using one right now as my gnome is screwed
[02:20] <monotoko> i|Nova, you have two choices....you can attempt to install ubuntu-desktop again, or you can backup your user and reinstall Ubuntu
[02:20] <CkhiKuzad> because canonical's happy birthday gift to me in october? 9.04 is going to be unsupported, so if i cant install freaking 10.04 i am screwed.
[02:20] <i|Nova> monotoko, could i install packages onto my ubuntu installation from this live cd?
[02:21] <TiK> CkhiKuzad: why do you need unetbootin?
[02:21] <monotoko> i|Nova, you could have a go...but its beyond my knowledge im afraid
[02:21] <monotoko> you would need to chroot into your local environment
[02:22] <CkhiKuzad> i dont have a burner, no USB boot, nothing that can boot because the first damn computer from the 80's has a more up to date BIOS than mine
[02:22] <monotoko> i|Nova, iv just had an idea
[02:22] <TiK> why does ubuntu only see 3gigs of ram when I have 4? the bios shows 4 and th memtest shows 4
[02:22] <i|Nova> Listening :P
[02:23] <TiK> CkhiKuzad: that sucks
[02:23]  * CkhiKuzad hopes to god this channel is on a netsplit, and when he reconnects someone can help him.
[02:23] <LibertyZero> TiK: What does the -g switch in free do? Its neither listed in man nor in --help
[02:24] <TiK> LibertyZero: uhm it shows the moutput in gigs
[02:24] <TiK> output*
[02:24] <rooks> TiK, some sort of 3gig lock due to some sort of construction of pc in i686 mode
[02:24] <monotoko> i|Nova, i have a script you could use to get into your current installation from your liveCD
[02:24] <i|Nova> :D
[02:24] <TiK> rooks: 3gig lock?
[02:24] <TiK> rooks: wtf?
[02:24] <monotoko> i|Nova,  can you pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l"?
[02:25] <rooks> yes, its derivative of some sort of construcion of virtual mem in i686
[02:25] <TiK> rook: so I am stuck with 3gigs?
[02:25] <monotoko> (it will tell me where Ubuntu is located)
[02:25] <LibertyZero> TiK: free -m shows 3963 MB Ram on my PC , -g shows 3
[02:25] <i|Nova> are you wondering where my linux partition is?
[02:25] <rooks> TiK, if in 686 then i think yes, tho better ask around to be sure
[02:25] <monotoko> i|Nova, indeed, i need to know its name to the system
[02:25] <i|Nova> it's /dev/sda1 as far as i know
[02:25] <i|Nova> :P
[02:25] <TiK> rooks: its a dual core with 4 gg 64 bit
[02:25] <monotoko> ahhhh awesome
[02:25] <TiK> gigs
[02:25] <i|Nova> had to get that info to reinstall grub, i'm dual booting ubuntu and w7
[02:26] <zzzed> TiK, if your hardware supports PAE, the with a PAE enabled kernel you can access 4G
[02:26] <rooks> TiK, hmm.. then somethings wrong.. do ou run it in 64bit?
[02:26] <TiK> rooks: yes and I have recompiled my kernel to the latest one.. just booted up in generic and noticed this
[02:26] <monotoko> i|Nova, i warn ye now...this script aint pretty and will probably hurt your eyes to look at
[02:26] <TiK> because it was the same for the one I compiledI hought i did something wrong
[02:26] <rooks> TiK, what zzzed said
[02:27] <i|Nova> heh
[02:27] <TiK> zzzed: how do I enable PAE?
[02:27] <monotoko> http://pastebin.com/iN6pHhxv
[02:27] <monotoko> @ i|Nova
[02:27] <xangua> TiK: have you installed it¿
[02:27] <TiK> yes
[02:27] <zzzed> Tik, i think it must be in kernel config
[02:27] <TiK> hmm
[02:28] <LibertyZero> TiK: PAE is only for 32bit kernels
[02:28] <monotoko> grab that script...stick it in a document using gedit and save it as "script.sh" in your home directory
[02:28] <i|Nova> alright
[02:28] <TiK> so if I use 64bit im stuck at 3gigs?
[02:28] <monotoko> tell me when you've done that i|Nova
[02:28] <LibertyZero> TiK: what does free -m show?
[02:28] <i|Nova> done
[02:28] <i|Nova> :)
[02:28] <monotoko> nice...now open a terminal, it gets fun from here
[02:29] <monotoko> first command: "chmod +x ./script.sh"
[02:29] <i|Nova> yeah, i have one open
[02:29] <TiK> LibertyZero: shows your fre mmory in megabytes
[02:29] <i|Nova> done
[02:29] <CkhiKuzad> do you know what the script does?
[02:29] <TiK>  -b,-k,-m,-g show output in bytes, KB, MB, or GB
[02:29] <monotoko> CkhiKuzad, me? I made the script...source i know what it does
[02:29] <LibertyZero> TiK: I mean, how much Ram shows that on your PC?
[02:29] <CkhiKuzad> you might want to figure it out before running it i|Nova
[02:30] <i|Nova> I read through it, ckhi.
[02:30] <CkhiKuzad> alright.
[02:30] <TiK> oh 3 gigs
[02:30] <CkhiKuzad> ^^
[02:30] <TiK> 3837
[02:30] <CkhiKuzad> just making sure you dont accidentally get an SH that's programmed to screw up your system.
[02:30] <i|Nova> heh
[02:31] <i|Nova> i'm a programmer, i always check the code before i run it :P
[02:31] <monotoko> CkhiKuzad, nahh...this ones a simple hack to allow a chroot from a live environment :P
[02:31] <i|Nova> anyways, chmodded it to allow execution
[02:31] <monotoko> i|Nova, pray to the chipmonk lords that it works then type: "./script.sh"
[02:31] <i|Nova> heh
[02:31] <LibertyZero> TiK: 3837 MB are almost 4 Gig :-)
[02:32] <i|Nova> a lot of permission denieds and only root can do that-s
[02:32] <i|Nova> hold on
[02:32]  * monotoko forgot sudo
[02:32] <i|Nova> sudo: unable to resolve host ubuntu
[02:32] <i|Nova> after localuser:root being added to access contro list
[02:32] <i|Nova> lol
[02:32] <i|Nova> control*
[02:32] <monotoko> damnit
[02:32] <monotoko> one sec
[02:32] <TiK> LibertyZero: it shold be 3096 or something
[02:32] <TiK> er
[02:33] <TiK> 4096
[02:33] <monotoko> i|Nova, "sudo mkdir /mnt/maverick"
[02:34] <i|Nova> sudo: unable to resolve host ubuntu
[02:34] <monotoko> ahha...tyoe "exit"
[02:34] <monotoko> *type
[02:35] <i|Nova> and then re-do it?
[02:35] <i|Nova> or should i just re execute script
[02:35] <monotoko> re-do the command
[02:35] <monotoko> then execute the script again
[02:35] <hellosugaree> can someone please help me with sft
[02:35] <hellosugaree> sftp*
[02:35] <hellosugaree> in the terminal
[02:35] <i|Nova> mono it exists already
[02:36] <LibertyZero> TiK: My PC shows 3963 MB Ram, while -g shows 3 GB. Maybe it's a bug in free...
[02:36] <monotoko> i|Nova, interesting...my script is missing something
[02:36] <hellosugaree> Nobody familiar with using sftp from the terminal?
[02:36] <mtx_init> its not a bug, free has never done decimals
[02:37] <nsar> hello
[02:37] <LibertyZero> mtx_init: ok, thanks :-)
[02:37] <nsar> hello
[02:37] <monotoko> guys...anyone here good with bash? Tell me what iv missed: http://pastebin.com/iN6pHhxv
[02:38] <i|Nova> mono try #bash
[02:38] <mtx_init> LibertyZero: the reason is for sig figs, just like from chemistry class.  if you want the nitty gritty details do it by byte.
[02:38] <sacarlson> hellosugaree: as a client of sftp?  I think it works about the same as ftp.
[02:38] <nsar> i have a strange problem with nm-applet when i connect as non-root user the mobile broadband connections that i define doesn't not appear on the connection applet some help please?
[02:39] <sacarlson> Monotoko: yes I've been looking at it I see no errors,  maybe the {} parts confused me a bit
[02:39] <BKTech86> hi, I'm trying to mount my ISO img of my MAC DVD in ubuntu, but it won't work
[02:40] <mtx_init> BKTech86: mount -0 loop image.iso /media/loopdevice
[02:40] <mtx_init> BKTech86: mount -o loop image.iso /media/loopdevice
[02:41] <sacarlson> BKTech86: try double click it in nautilus (the file manager) and select archive manager if you have a choice
[02:42] <Monotoko> i|Nova, seems no-one is there
[02:42] <sacarlson> BKTech86: oh ya that won't mount it I see
[02:42] <i|Nova> damn
[02:42] <xiong> Okay, guys, I've been talking on ##linux and guys have pointed me to "extended attributes" and user_xattr. All my partitions are ext3. Is it safe to set user_xattr on my partitions in fstab and reboot? Dangerous? Foolish? Somewhere in between?
[02:42] <sacarlson> i|Nova: it looks like you must be close
[02:43] <xiong> Um, and what about the "kernel option" CONFIG_EXT3_FS_XATTR?
[02:43] <i|Nova> I guess? :/
[02:43] <Monotoko> right...sudo seems to be complaining about it somewhere....first place to check would be the sudoers file
[02:45] <i|Nova> hmm?
[02:45] <Monotoko> i|Nova, try this: "sudo gedit /mnt/maverick/etc/sudoers"
[02:46] <xiong> Or should I just backup and reformat as ext4?
[02:46] <i|Nova> yeah..?
[02:46] <i|Nova> @monotoko
[02:46] <nsar> how can i fix the problem of the nm-applet that doesn't show the mobile broadband connections?
[02:46] <Monotoko> i|Nova, has it come up with something?
[02:46] <i|Nova> yeah, i see the file
[02:47] <Shadowww> hi there. With default graphic drivers (nouveau?) I have high-resolution console (1680x1050), but with nvidia-current it stays at 640x480. Is there any solution/workaround for this problem?
[02:48] <nsar> thanks i see
[02:49] <sacarlson> xiong: I know of no danger in changing user in fstab, I'm not sure about your ext3 thing,  I think it will have to match the format of the partition or it may complain
[02:50] <Jordan_U> !hostname | i|Nova
[02:50] <i|Nova> huh...
[02:51] <xiong> sacarlson, Thanks for responding but I don't really understand. I want to enable extended attributes; particularly, I want to be able to edit and use user attributes.
[02:51] <sacarlson> Shadowww:  you can't get better than that in System>preferences>montors ?  you should also try System>adminitration>Hardware drivers.
[02:51] <LibertyZero> Shadowww: No. The binary nvidia driver simply does not support kernel mode setting.
[02:52] <Shadowww> LibertyZero, there's no possibility to use vga= parameter either?
[02:52] <sacarlson> xiong: change after boot?  I think fstab will only change something at the point of time of mount.
[02:53] <xiong> sacarlson, I'm sure you're right.
[02:53] <sacarlson> xiong: so you can unmount and remount to activate your new fstab settings.
[02:54] <sacarlson> xiong: but you wouldn't want to do that to your root partition that you are currently running.  for that you would have to chroot or reboot
[02:55] <xiong> Thanks, sacarlson. Ah, I gotta go eat.
[02:56] <LibertyZero> Shadowww: As far as I know it's not possible...
[02:56] <Saudi> hello
[02:59] <epic720> Is there a way to split up your workspaces across monitors. IE: I have two monitors and I would like to have at least 2 workspaces per monitor.
[03:00] <LucidGuy> Any recommendations for an alternate music/media player then the ipod app?  Something in Cydia?
[03:00] <i|Nova> dTunes
[03:01] <sacarlson> LibertyZero: : does that vga= and  or xforcevesa in grub2 boot options only work in the pre xserver state?   I'm looking for an option to force vesa all the way into X11 stat from boot.
[03:01] <JackStoner> !crunchbang
[03:01] <brandom> Does anyone know whether or not there is a fix for the Atheros AR9285 yet? I couldn't only find bug reports and complaints on the forums, no solutions.. I can't even update 10.04 because it downloads at 1000 bytes/sec and then completely drops out.
[03:02] <xangua> LucidGuy: rhythmbox, banshee
[03:02] <kad__> hey! anyone has used ntop ?
[03:03] <LucidGuy> xangua, ever find alternate app for the ipod app on the device?  Maybe something in Cydia?
[03:03] <ubuntu> Can anyone tell me how to write a floppy disk image in ubuntu?
[03:03] <xomp> hi all, using ubuntu netbook remix here and wonder if I can snag the music off my jailbroken ipod touch with it?
[03:03] <xangua> LucidGuy: no idea, try offtopic
[03:03] <maurer_> I'm getting 25% packet loss on multiple different wireless networks. Any approaches to figure out what's going on with my machine?
[03:03] <i|Nova> Lucidguy: dTunes
[03:03] <logankoester> a floppy disk image?
[03:04] <logankoester> what year is this?
[03:04] <sacarlson> brandom:  is that the eeepc chip set?
[03:04] <LucidGuy> i|Nova, thank you ..
[03:04] <Sc00t3r> logankoester: A floppy disk image can be used to make a USB drive bootable.
[03:04] <brandom> maurer_: What wireless card are you using.
[03:04] <i|Nova> LucidGuy:  I use it all the time :D
[03:04] <maurer_> Intel 5300
[03:05] <LucidGuy> i|Nova, installing ..
[03:05] <maurer_> brandom: Full disclosure--using Maverick, but #ubuntu+1 seems dead
[03:05] <brandom> sacarlson: It's an AR9285 on a Sony VAIO.
[03:05] <Sc00t3r> maurer: Packet loss can be caused by signal interference, caused by wireless devices using the same frequency as the wireless router/devices (for example, a wireless phone). It could also just be the distance of the devices to the router.
[03:05] <ubuntu> Ive an image for a windows boot disk and im trying to figure out how to write it to floppy. right now im on 10.04 live cd
[03:06] <ayam_bakar> hallo everybody
[03:06] <marcuy> !hello | ayam_bakar
[03:06] <maurer_> Sc00t3r: This is what I thought as well when I encountered this. I am now on a different router, different hardware, etc.
[03:06] <maurer_> Still failing.
[03:06] <ayam_bakar> i ask some question
[03:06] <brandom> maurer_: Oh, okay.. thought you might have the same problem as me! My AR9285 drops packets like crazy.
[03:06] <maurer_> I'll try turning off my phone, if that's the issue, I'll be really annoyed.
[03:06] <ayam_bakar> about ubuntu 10.04
[03:06] <sacarlson> brandom: oh ok because my eeepc has some kind of an athoes device and it works very well very sensitive but I installed the easypeasy dirivitive that had the drivers inside.
[03:07] <Sc00t3r> maurer_: Phones, if they are using the same frequency as the router, can cause a lot of interference. I mean a wireless phone, not a cell phone.
[03:07] <ayam_bakar> my ubuntu 10.04 can't detect media after install ubuntu 10.04
[03:07] <maurer_> Sc00t3r: It's a cell phone, but it uses WiMAX which might be too near?
[03:07] <epic720> Does anyone know how to have separate workspaces in a multimonitor setup?
[03:07] <brandom> sacarlson: You don't know what version your atheros card is? I suppose I could try this..
[03:08] <maurer_> Nope, phone off, still same issue.
[03:08] <sacarlson> brandom no sorry I don't it's not here now.  maybe I could look it up it's the old on 901 I think
[03:08] <Sc00t3r> maurer_: I couldn't really tell you then. It seems extremely odd that you'd get up to 20% packet loss.
[03:08] <csmith1994> guys
[03:08] <ayam_bakar> before install ubuntu 10.04 CD LIVE, my media detected
[03:08] <csmith1994> just bought a new ipad and i have ubuntu
[03:08] <csmith1994> how do i set it up
[03:08] <maurer_> Sc00t3r: Testing via pinging a remote server results in between 20-30% every time.
[03:08] <Sc00t3r> csmith1994: You can't.
[03:09] <ubuntu> does anyone know how to write an image to floppy?
[03:09] <csmith1994> Sc00t3r are you kidding?
[03:09] <maurer_> I suppose I'll just wait for #ubuntu+1 to perk back up again. It's probably something from the new kernel.
[03:09] <Sc00t3r> ssmith1994: Check on Google. If you really think Ubuntu supports a tablet along with the hardware on an iPad, you're nuts.
[03:09] <maurer_> csmith1994: Unless you want to break some crypto, no, you can't do it.
[03:10] <xx8xx> irc.stmikbg.com
[03:10] <thune3> maurer_: there are iwconfig tunables sometimes, retry and frag. sometimes a lower mtu with ifconfig is the ticket
[03:10] <ayam_bakar> please help my ubuntu
[03:10] <csmith1994> Sc00t3r it supports the ipad i just have to set it up on a different system
[03:10] <maurer_> Sc00t3r: You misunderstood him--the damn thing won't turn on until you plug it into iTunes
[03:10] <csmith1994> yeah thats what i mean
[03:10] <sacarlson> brandom: seems like we got someone to work with athose here before,  give me your lspci and I'll take a quick look
[03:10] <Sc00t3r> csmith: One, an iPad doesn't have CD/DVD/USB functionality. 2, you can't take the hard drive out of it without tearing the whole thing apart, and even then, I'm not sure how you would install it to that hard drive.
[03:10] <csmith1994> sc00t3r im not trying to put itunes on it
[03:10] <Sc00t3r> csmith1994: OH. I am so sorry. I thought you meant install ubuntu to iPad.
[03:11] <csmith1994> linux*
[03:11] <csmith1994> nah
[03:11] <csmith1994> i just bought an ipad
[03:11] <FloodBot3> csmith1994: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:11] <Sc00t3r> csmith1994: You have to sync all 'i' devices with Windows to have them prepared, then use them (usually) with Rhythmbox. That's the only option I know of.
[03:11] <csmith1994> it doesnt turn on until you plug it in to itunes, i needd to know how to do that on a ubuntu computer
[03:12] <csmith1994> are you serious i dont have a windows computer at my disposal
[03:12] <maurer_> csmith1994: Sorry man. Try virtualbox?
[03:12] <maurer_> Sometimes it works.
[03:12] <csmith1994> so i'm stuck with this. i used to like linux but lately it's been workaround this workaround that.
[03:12] <maurer_> Sc00t3r: That's old. You cannot use iPhones/iPod touches with linux, they changed their database so it's a signed format.
[03:12] <Sc00t3r> csmith1994: I am very serious. I don't think you can do it straight from Linux unless you install iTunes on Linux.
[03:12] <csmith1994> and i cant get virtualbox to run on my computer
[03:12] <TiK> virtualbox does not run itunes you need vmware
[03:12] <Sc00t3r> maurer_, I can still use my iPod Touch v3 with Linux.
[03:13] <Sc00t3r> TiK, All Virtual machines can run windows.
[03:13] <TiK> yes windows
[03:13] <sacarlson> csmith1994: I wiped out my friends Ipod with ubuntu 9.04 (not sure the version) I had to reset his ipod to factory specs loosing all his music and play lists
[03:13] <ayam_bakar> i don't like windows
[03:13] <xomp> I managed to just connect my iPod Touch to my ubuntu machine and am now easily copying files from the iPod onto my computer :0
[03:13] <maurer_> Sc00t3r: Really? Back when I still had my iPhone 3GS, the crypto dataformat prevented me from loading songs that could be played by iTunes.
[03:13] <TiK> but there is a problem with virtualbox and itunes
[03:13] <fixl> hello guys. a friend of mine cannot log into ubuntu ( 10.04 ) he says he enters username/passord, then the screen gets black and the login screen is there again. and i havent found a solution for that on google as of now
[03:13] <TiK> you need vmware player
[03:13] <maurer_> Sc00t3r: I had to root it and load a separate app on it.
[03:13] <Sc00t3r> maurer_, I feel sorry for you then. I've been able to use Rhythmbox to use my iPod Touch.
[03:13] <fcuk112> strange, i can see browse machines on my network using nautilus but i can't ping them.  how do i fix that?
[03:14] <maurer_> Sc00t3r: Fine now. Sold it and got an Evo. 4G is really nice.
[03:14] <TiK> fcuk112: firewalls....
[03:14] <maurer_> Sc00t3r: And post rooting, free tethering.
[03:14] <fcuk112> no it was working before
[03:14] <ayam_bakar> i cannot detect my harddisk
[03:14] <brandom> sacarlson: I will have to boot into ubuntu and then back to win7, the card is completely useless and disconnects frequently..
[03:14] <ayam_bakar> only detect system and floopy
[03:14] <ayam_bakar> after install ubuntu
[03:15] <ayam_bakar> i have 2 hard disk
[03:15] <ayam_bakar> 40 GB and 40 GB
[03:15] <sacarlson> brandom:  you don't have an lspci captured to look at?
[03:15] <ilmenite> someone help me with this, when i boot ubuntu, at login manager it says running in low graphics, then if i click on go to console, ans then su jude, and do a startx, it all startts perfectly.
[03:15] <ilmenite> any ideas anyone?
[03:16] <Sc00t3r> ayam_bakar: Please stop using 10 posts for a single sentence. First, check your Disk Utility to see if your hard drives are there. If they are, try mounting them in order to access them.
[03:16] <brandom> sacarlson: No, I figured the make of the card would be enough to check on solutions since I found so many bug reports on the forums for the AR9285..
[03:16] <ayam_bakar> access denied
[03:16] <ayam_bakar> i cannot access
[03:16] <Shadowww> !mintsupport
[03:17] <fcuk112> i can browse machines on my network using nautilus but have suddenly stopped being able to ping them.
[03:17] <epic720> Does anyone know how to have different workspaces across 2 different monitors?
[03:17] <Sc00t3r> ayam_bakar: Are you the ubuntu's administrator?
[03:17] <sacarlson> brandom: athose makes many different parts some work out of the box others don't.  they even have different version of the same parts.
[03:17] <ayam_bakar> not
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[03:17] <ayam_bakar> custom user
[03:17] <maco> salax: stop that please
[03:17] <maco> salax: not you
[03:17] <dschuett> why can't i stop start or reload squid in ubuntu 10.04?
[03:17] <bousselham> hey friends
[03:17] <Delvien> tab complete fail :P
[03:18] <brandom> sacarlson: Alright, I'll obtain it. BRB..
[03:18] <dschuett> i get this error: reload: Unknown instance:
[03:18] <sacarlson> brandom: you should put a copy on pastebin and book mark it in windows 7 so if you don't solve it now you can keep looking posting searching till a solutions shows up.
[03:18] <bousselham> i find that they change "emesene"?!!
[03:18] <bousselham> what happend to the old
[03:18] <Sc00t3r> ayam_bakar: Unless the user has permission to mount disks, you can't access them.
[03:19] <ayam_bakar> my cdrom can't detect
[03:19] <ayam_bakar> flashdisk can't detect
[03:19] <ayam_bakar> after install ubuntu 10.04
[03:19] <ayam_bakar> clean install ubuntu 10.04
[03:19] <fcuk112> humm i can ping using ip but not using dns name
[03:19] <ayam_bakar> :(
[03:19] <Sc00t3r> ayam_bakar: Have you used Ubuntu before? or Linux?
[03:20] <Delvien> fcuk112: Are you trying to ping windows machines?
[03:20] <ayam_bakar> i'm first use
[03:20] <fcuk112> Delvien: no other linux machines
[03:20] <Sc00t3r> ayam_bakar: You have to be the adminstrator or have permission to access disks to get to them. Check your user groups and make sure your user has permission to mount file systems and disks.
[03:20] <Delvien> fcuk112: huh, weird
[03:21] <julian_> hello i have a cuestion
[03:21] <Delvien> julian_: ask away
[03:22] <Sc00t3r> fcuk112: Are you using a password to access the machines? If the machines require a username/password to access, or are not set up to receive/send files over a network, you can't yet access them.
[03:22] <julian_> como busco el centro de software en linux lubuntu
[03:22] <Delvien> !es | julian_
[03:22] <xangua> applicaciones...................................................centro de software
[03:22] <dschuett> is anyone running squid on ubuntu 10.04?
[03:22] <xangua> ooh wrong channel :S
[03:22] <fcuk112> Sc00t3r: it was working previously, it just has suddenly stopped working.
[03:23] <fcuk112> Sc00t3r: would it help to reset my router?
[03:23] <Sc00t3r> fcuk112: Weird. I couldn't tell you then unless you changed something with the connection. Perhaps the IPs changed, dunno.
[03:23] <sacarlson> fcuk112: ping local network ubuntu machines?  what names would you use to do that?
[03:24] <fcuk112> sacarlson: the names of the machines?
[03:24] <fcuk112> sacarlson: also if i try to ssh, it won't find it using the name.
[03:25] <sacarlson> fcuk112: for me I just setup my ubuntu machines with static address and have there names in /etc/hosts  but that is probly the old way of doing things.
[03:25] <Maletor> If I want to mount my /home directory as a separate filesystem, and given that the /home is in a software RAID 5 created from disk utility, other than adding /dev/md0 to my fstab what else do I need to do?
[03:25] <amzertech> try pinging your loopback to eliminate the possibility of a nic problem
[03:25] <cast> Maletor: presuming md0 is detected on boot nothing
[03:25] <dschuett> Does anyone run squid on ubuntu 10.04?
[03:25] <Maletor> My boot drive and root is located on a separate drive cast
[03:26] <Maletor> cast: will md0 be detected on boot?
[03:26] <sacarlson> fcuk112: did you do something custom with bind9 to enable you to ping your local names?
[03:27] <sacarlson> fcuk112: I should have asked if you can still ping google.com.
[03:27] <cast> Maletor: do you have the mdadm tools installed?
[03:27] <progre55> hi guys, does "setfacl" work on ubuntu?
[03:27] <guest> would someone be willing to help me with a dual boot question?
[03:27] <Maletor> cast: yes
[03:28] <progre55> guest ! ask
[03:28] <progre55> guest | ask
[03:28] <progre55> guest: well, just ask =)
[03:28] <rww> progre55: !ask | guest
[03:29] <guest> ok I've installed Ubuntu on a hard drive berfore and it always five you the option to dual install, but its not coming up now
[03:29] <progre55> rww: yeah thanks =)
[03:29] <guest> the only option is to completley wipe windows and make the entire disk an ubuntu partition
[03:29] <progre55> !ask | guest
[03:29] <progre55> guest: damn, sorry for spamming you ))
[03:30] <progre55> guest: are you saying you installed windows after ubuntu?
[03:30] <Jordan_U> progre55: You can play with the bots in #ubuntu-bots to get used to them.
[03:30] <guest> No windows was installed before hand.
[03:30] <guest> Im creating a new ubuntu partition
[03:31] <progre55> Jordan_U: well, no time for them for now =) it's actually 4.30am in here and I'm still up..
[03:31] <TiK> how do I change the defualt boot kernel in grub2? anyone got a website or something?
[03:31] <progre55> guest: well so then ubuntu, after you install it next to your windows, will have it's boot manager to handle everything..
[03:31] <Jordan_U> guest: Can you see your windows files in Places > Computer ?
[03:31] <progre55> guest: and you are supposed to see both, ubuntu and windows
[03:31] <hellosugaree> exit
[03:32] <Neeon> Anyone know how i can add someting  to "session startup"? I cant find it in the system menu.. I'm on an acer aspire 0751h and i have some issues with the video card and battery liftetime
[03:32] <progre55> oh now I got his question.
[03:32] <guest> when I run the live CD, there is no option to create an ubuntu partition out of the windows free space.
[03:32] <progre55> guest: first off, defragment your windows partition, from under windows
[03:32] <progre55> guest: and also, how much free space do you have?
[03:33] <Maletor> cast: and?
[03:33] <guest> out of a 300 gb theres 260GB of free space
[03:33] <sacarlson> Neeon: I think i see it in System>preferences>startup applications
[03:34] <progre55> Jordan_U: he hasnt installed ubuntu yet, but about to install, and he doesnt have an option to make a new partition for his ubuntu, right guest? )
[03:34] <guest> so I need to defragment the drive in windows?
[03:34] <dschuett> anyone running squid on ubuntu 10.04?
[03:34] <MWesten> Hello, I have a netbook, I'm having problems with the wifi, it is working extremely slow, its the: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g, I read on the internet that a lot of people seem to have issues with this Broadcom, can you help me please? Thank you.
[03:34] <progre55> guest: no matter what, it is highly recommended to defragment your hard drive before you install dual boot
[03:34] <Jordan_U> TiK: GRUB_DEFAULT in /etc/default/grub, you can either use a number or use the full menu entry title (so it doesn't change when a new kernel is installed). For instance: GRUB_DEFAULT='Ubuntu GNU/Linux, with Linux 2.6.32-24-generic (recovery mode)'
[03:35] <guest> ok Ill try defragmenting the drive and come back if that doesnt work.
[03:35] <Jordan_U> progre55: That's actually not needed any more (if it ever was).
[03:35] <TiK> Jordan_U: I just compiled .35 and its not the default..
[03:35] <progre55> so, anybody knows if "setfacl" works on ubuntu?
[03:35] <brandom> sacarlson: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/VvySbJ8B
[03:35] <sacarlson> brandom: ok
[03:35] <progre55> Jordan_U: you mean, defragmenting? why not??
[03:36] <TiK> Jordan_U: thanks.. where do I get the list to choose a number from?
[03:36] <dschuett> progre55: i don't know...but what i do know is that squid doesn't work in ubuntu 10.04 :P
[03:36] <dschuett> ubuntu is almost pissing me off
[03:36] <progre55> dschuett: no idea what squid is )
[03:36] <dschuett> it is a caching proxy
[03:36] <ayam_bakar> i'm look ubuntu is easy
[03:37] <progre55> oh
[03:37] <TiK> Jordan_U: ?
[03:37] <xangua> ayam_bakar: is english your native language¿
[03:37] <progre55> I think I should better join #ubuntu-server
[03:38] <sacarlson> brandom:  did you look at this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1359492
[03:38] <Jordan_U> progre55: ntfsresize works fine on fragmented filesystems, the myth that you need to defrag first is so common that they put "Defragmentation is NOT required prior to  resizing  because  the program can  relocate  any  data  if  needed,  without  risking  data integrity." in bold in the ntfsresize man page.
[03:39] <Jordan_U> TiK: sudo grep menuentry /boot/grub/grub.cfg | grep -o '".*"'
[03:39] <ayam_bakar> xangua : nope
[03:39] <progre55> Jordan_U: well, never saw what =) but all the manuals I've ever read tell me to defragment =) and actually it never hurts.. it even helps up your windows =)
[03:40] <WinstonSmith> Jordan_U, but i experienced it to be quicker if i dfragged 1st
[03:40] <xangua> if it's not, then why don't you try a channel for your language ; at least I don't understand what do you want
[03:40] <TiK> Jordan_U: heh that only shows memtest
[03:40] <KE1HA> MWesten:  This week, I installed UB-Desktop on a netbook with a BCM4312 WiFI NIC. After initial install, I selected the STA driver, loaded, rebooted and added my WPA, and it wored out fo the Box, however, the BC43XX does not. You amy want to try the STA driver.
[03:40] <julian_> how search the center of software in lubuntu 10.04???
[03:40] <ayam_bakar> xangua : i'm sorry
[03:40] <Jordan_U> WinstonSmith: It likely would be, as long as you don't count the time to defrag.
[03:40] <hacksing> hi
[03:41] <WinstonSmith> Jordan_U, u got me there :)
[03:41] <hacksing> ^^
[03:41] <julian_> helppp
[03:41] <julian_> plis
[03:41] <wedwo> The new partition is going to be allocated free space - unallocated blocks - and then start allocating them to the new file system. No amount of defragmenting will change the way the blocks are allocated
[03:41] <WinstonSmith> hi everybody. my server 8.04 wont reboot anymore. i give it a reboot or shutdown -r now and just nothing happens... i get the message that it will reboot but nothing
[03:41] <hacksing> what u need julian?
[03:41] <ayam_bakar> xangua : i'm from indonesia
[03:41] <TiK> Jordan_U: thanks for the file though
[03:41] <xangua> !indonesia | ayam_bakar
[03:41] <julian_> tank you hacksing
[03:41] <julian_> how search the center of software in lubuntu 10.04???
[03:41] <MWesten> KE1HA: Thanks, yeah I have it, in fact, its working, the problem is that I have a very slow connection, can you please help me to check if there's something wrong?
[03:42] <brandom> sacarlson: Well, that's for 9.10, but I'll give it a try. I think I read somewhere that after installing the backports in 10.04 that they only work until shutdown for some odd reason and then need to be reinstalled..
[03:42] <julian_> Idont know look
[03:42] <ayam_bakar> nobody people at ubuntu indo
[03:42] <Jordan_U> TiK: You're welcome, I guess I need to work on my grep foo :)
[03:42] <ayam_bakar> only 2 people
[03:42] <ayam_bakar> :(
[03:42] <hacksing> julian: wait...
[03:42] <julian_> Gracias
[03:42] <julian_> tanks
[03:42] <julian_> i not speak good english
[03:43] <xangua> !es | julian_
[03:43] <sacarlson> brandom: reinstalled?  the packages?
[03:43] <hacksing> julian: me too
[03:43] <ayam_bakar> me too
[03:43] <julian_> yes
[03:43] <KE1HA> MWesten:  How to increase the speed I do no know. If you have good signal strength from your box to the wifi router, then the problem may be on the inet connection side.
[03:44] <Tibman> has anyone been able to install vlc 1.1.4?
[03:44] <MWesten> KE1HA is there some command to put in the terminal just to check if the driver is installed ok or if there's some issue?
[03:45] <sacarlson> brandom:  I also found this and also see that it is the same exact chip as my eeepc http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/ath9k
[03:45] <ol_dude67> anyone know of a tutorial for a belkin usb wireless adapter install?
[03:46] <KE1HA> MWesten:  if it's connecting and you getting an IP address the driver is working, else you would not get that far. You may try to ping the router (your gateway IP) then ping google or yahoo and compare the diffrences.
[03:46] <sacarlson> brandom:  it speaks that the kernels must be at least as new as 2.6.32
[03:47] <julian_> gracias por su ayuda hacksing
[03:47] <Tibman> anyone using vlc 1.1.4 in here? <------------------------------------
[03:47] <edbian> Is there an easy way to write an app that won't allow the screensaver to go on?
[03:47] <julian_> tanks for your help me
[03:47] <julian_> hacksing
[03:47] <Cl1FF> can any1 give me ideas on how to disable the gnome panels and leaving just cairo dock at startup? Right now im choosin between a command to kill the panels or hiding them all the time. any other option??
[03:47] <sacarlson> brandom: I see I am now running 2.6.32-24-generic but not sure I upgraded.
[03:48] <eightball> hi help with dvd play back thanks
[03:48] <MWesten> KE1HA thanks! :D
[03:48] <amzertech> anyone knows of a good lightweight email client for gnome?
[03:48] <edbian> Cl1FF, You could drop the other foot.  If you don't use the gnome panels you don't use a large part of gnome.  Why not get rid of it completely?  Try some other window manager.
[03:48] <eightball> i have lot of player still not working
[03:48] <hacksing> Julian_: I dont use Gnome I use Openbox but... I search how explain you
[03:49] <KE1HA> amzertech:  have a look at Sylpheed.
[03:50] <Cl1FF> edbian, thanx for the idea, can u recommend any good ones u may know?
[03:50] <KE1HA> amzertech:  http://sylpheed.sraoss.jp/en/
[03:50] <Mqueue> i'm having problems booting into Xsession with 10LTS can anyone help me please now booting with live CD
[03:50] <julian_> 10.04 in normal ubuntu there is a separate software center and I can download software to the console but it has desktop lubuntu ldxe just can not find synaptic package manager
[03:51] <edbian> Cl1FF, You should probably run compiz stand-alone (just google that term).  Since you'll need compositing for cairo-dock to look good and that's the only one that composits
[03:51] <edbian> julian_, open a terminal.  Type "gksudo synaptic"
[03:51] <Cl1FF> edbian, thanx ill look it up
[03:51] <edbian> julian_, Who cares where it is in the gui?  Create your own launcher.
[03:51] <thune3> Cl1FF: does deleting the panels work?
[03:51] <edbian> thune3, He was thinking about doing that.
[03:52] <edbian> thune3, he left
[03:52] <brandom> sacarlson: Yeah, that's what I was reading. I'll give it a shot. Do you like easypeasy?
[03:52] <thune3> edbian: ah, ok. i don't see joins/parts
[03:52] <dougb_freebsd> thune3: ping
[03:52] <edbian> thune3, mmm  yep he's gone
[03:52] <hacksing> Julian_: you used LXDE ?
[03:53] <sacarlson> brandom: I like that everything worked out of the box.  it is designed for the eeepc and it's small screen.
[03:53] <dougb_freebsd> I have a question about compiling things, what package(s) do I need to install?
[03:53] <julian_> Yes
[03:53] <julian_> to I can create my own launcher? at the time did not know he only commands sudo apt get instal
[03:53] <edbian> julian_, yeah.  gksudo synaptic
[03:54] <edbian> julian_, gksudo synaptic and sudo apt-get are both package managers.
[03:54] <edbian> julian_, gksudo and sudo just make you root or course.
[03:54] <brandom> sacarlson: Ah. Do you know if there is any way to track down those packages to download before I boot into ubuntu? I don't have access an ethernet connection and, like I said, the wireless is useless.
[03:54] <julian_> a good
[03:54] <hacksing> ^^
[03:54] <julian_> Tanks
[03:55] <hacksing> tanks edbian
[03:55] <edbian> hacksing, sure?  Did I help you? :)
[03:55] <julian_> me this helpme
[03:55] <hacksing> I to I can create my own launcher? at the time did not know he only commands sudo apt get instal
[03:56] <Tibman> can anyone recommend a good media program for 10.04?
[03:56] <julian_> Tanks edbian
[03:56] <sacarlson> brandom: just look for backport in synaptic you will see the newer ones that should work
[03:56] <edbian> You can are confusing.  I'm glad I helped!
[03:56] <edbian> Tibman, banshee.
[03:56] <edbian> Tibman, elisa
[03:56] <Tibman> thank you
[03:56] <eightball> i use kmplayer
[03:56] <edbian> Tibman, Rhythmbox and Totem aren't doing it for ya?
[03:57] <edbian> Tibman, This is of course the almighty Amaroke but that's KDE
[03:57] <eightball> how to get totem to work ?
[03:57] <WinstonSmith> Tibman, vlc rocks. no codec hell
[03:57] <Tibman> i keep getting missing plug in errors with those
[03:57] <eightball> same here
[03:57] <edbian> Tibman, Just install the codecs from the repos?
[03:57] <edbian> Tibman, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[03:57] <hacksing> edbian, no tanks
[03:57] <eightball> i did that
[03:57] <WinstonSmith> Tibman, VLC has nearly all plugins already builtin
[03:57] <Tibman> wubstibsmith: do you know how to install vlc 1.1.4>
[03:58] <KE1HA> dougb_freebsd:  for a good start, apt-get install build-essential
[03:58] <eightball> vlc does not work for me what am i doing wrong?
[03:58] <brandom> sacarlson: I have practically no useable internet in ubuntu as of now. I found it. Hopefully this will at least work well enough to allow me to download updates! Thanks!
[03:58] <edbian> hacksing, You're not making sense :(
[03:58] <smw> eightball, the only thing I know vlc is missing is dvd decryption
[03:59] <smw> eightball, (of course, that is another package)
[03:59] <eightball> ok
[03:59] <sacarlson> brandom: can't you just wire in cat5 untill you get wifi working?
[03:59] <smw> eightball, what happened?
[03:59] <eightball> how to get dvd decrtption?
[03:59] <nyu> so... all my panels are gone and i cant figure out how to get them back
[03:59] <brandom> sacarlson: No, that's what I was saying. I don't have access to ethernet..
[03:59] <eightball> does not play
[03:59] <smw> eightball, is that the problem you had?
[03:59] <edbian> nyu, alt + F2
[03:59] <edbian> nyu, in that box type "gnome-panel&"
[03:59] <eightball> yes
[03:59] <eightball> with dvd
[04:00] <sacarlson> brandom: you can't aford a $1 ethernet cable?
[04:00] <brandom> sacarlson: No internet at home right now.
[04:00] <nyu> it says no such file or directory
[04:00] <edbian> sacarlson, Are you selling $1 ethernet cables?  HOw long are they?!?
[04:00] <smw> eightball, I forget what it was called. Something like libdvdcss
[04:00] <eightball> what do i need to do to get it to work?
[04:00] <edbian> nyu, What does?  (Please begin your statements with my name like I'm doing for you)
[04:00] <smw> eightball, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[04:01] <sacarlson> edbian: I make them I have the tools cost about $1 if shorter than 1 meter
[04:01] <nyu> edbain: im running xfce if that matters
[04:01] <smw> eightball, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs#Installing libdvdcss
[04:01] <edbian> sacarlson, Ahhh but you can't buy $1 worth.
[04:01] <edbian> nyu, That does!  Tremendously! :D
[04:01] <brandom> sacarlson: I'm at a coffee shop. I refuse to pay AT&T for slow dsl what I used to pay verizon fios for 15mbps! I didn't do my research before I moved into this apartment and my building is the only one with a contract with AT&T rather than Verizon.
[04:01] <KE1HA> eightball:  sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[04:02] <sacarlson> edbian: connector 10 baht need 2 so that's 20 baht,  cable is 10 baht per meter  30baht total that's less that $1
[04:02] <nyu> edbain: i figured as much
[04:02] <eightball> Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[04:02] <hacksing> edbian, Not that I just tried to help but I am happy that you have helped my
[04:02] <hacksing> English is poor and still have much to learn =)
[04:02] <dougb_freebsd> KE1HA: thanks, that's going now
[04:02] <seekwill> edbian: http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10208&cs_id=1020804&p_id=2132&seq=1&format=2
[04:02] <edbian> nyu, They're not gnome-panels!  try "lxpanel" in the alt+F2 box
[04:02] <smw> eightball, 1. is it as root? 2. Is apt (or something) running?
[04:02] <KE1HA> eightball:  close the package manager or any other installs you have going on.
[04:03] <nyu> edbain: is there an xfce equivilent to the gnome panel command?
[04:03] <xangua> xfce4-panel nyu
[04:03] <sacarlson> edbian:  oh and that stuf is more expensive here than in USA.
[04:03] <edbian> sacarlson, I'm impressed
[04:03] <edbian> nyu, I'm looking it up.
[04:03] <seekwill> sacarlson: This is about 15 baht :)
[04:03] <nyu> woohoo
[04:03] <KE1HA> dougb_freebsd:  if you open he package manger, (when that's finished of course), you can select that package, and it will chow you the tools it installed.
[04:03] <brandom> sacarlson: So I just go to the coffee shop to use the internet and *sometimes* borrow from my neighbor. I feel guilty about that though, so I just drink a lot of coffee..
[04:03] <nyu> edbain: xangua got it
[04:03] <KE1HA> show*
[04:03] <nyu> thanks
[04:04] <edbian> nyu, xfce4-panel
[04:04] <edbian> xangua, What is it?
[04:04] <edbian> xangua, Oh I see. Thanks
[04:04] <eightball> all ready have it installed now what?
[04:04] <smw> eightball, restart and try to play the dvd
[04:05] <KE1HA> dougb_freebsd:  allot of apps also call for kernel hears, which are installed most of the time, but you can ensure by doing: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[04:05] <nyu> wonder why that happened...
[04:05] <nyu> oh well
[04:05] <nyu> thanks guys
[04:05] <eightball> restart the computer?
[04:05] <smw> eightball, "Rebooting may be necessary"
[04:05] <eightball> ok
[04:05] <smw> eightball, that is from the page I sent you
[04:06] <eightball> ok restatr will be back to let you know
[04:06] <eightball> re start
[04:06] <sinurge> what does partial upgrade do
[04:06] <smw> eightball, wait
[04:06] <jijutm> how do capture webservices message transport from my ubuntu to another server
[04:06] <smw> oh well, lol
[04:07] <jijutm> id dont have source of the webservice client
[04:08] <jijutm> will tcpdump do
[04:08] <KE1HA> sinurge:  more often than not, it means apt was stopped mis-stream or did not reset properly, and you need to kill it to restart another iupgrade or install session.
[04:08] <jijutm> or can i get someone to configure a proxy server
[04:08] <brandom> sacarlson: Thanks for your help! I am going to boot into ubuntu and install..
[04:08] <KE1HA> mid-stream*
[04:09] <Ruum_> hey guys do you know any good repos for sun-java6-jdk?
[04:09] <sacarlson> brandom: ok good luck give me the good or bad news
[04:09] <sacarlson> Ruum_: might want to go to sun I guess.
[04:10] <xangua> !Java | Ruum_
[04:10] <dougb_freebsd> KE1HA: I'm trying to build a pidgin plugin, so I need headers for (to start with) glib and libpurple .... is there an easy way to say "install the headers for libs that are already installed?
[04:10] <mihalis> can anyone send me a private msg ...anything.I am just trying to learn wee-chat
[04:10] <eightball> hi
[04:10] <undecim> how can I, from the command line, mount or unmount a drive in the same way as if I had clicked it in nautilus?
[04:11] <KE1HA> dougb_freebsd:  glbc shuold be in the build-essential, not used libpurple :-) need to look that one up.
[04:11] <Callum_Laptop> undecim: sudo umount <folder>
[04:11] <eightball> VLC cannot set the DVD's title. It possibly cannot decrypt the entire disc. help?
[04:11] <Callum_Laptop> eightball: do you have libdvdcss installed?
[04:11] <dougb_freebsd> glib, not glibc
[04:11] <eightball> yes
[04:12] <dougb_freebsd> as in, glib the gtk component
[04:12] <sacarlson> xangua: cool I didn't have that partner checked.  I just added it to my repos
[04:12] <WinstonSmith> Callum_Laptop, VLC has libdvdcss built in
[04:12] <KE1HA> dougb_freebsd:  try libpurple-dev
[04:12] <undecim> Callum_Laptop: I suppose that would work for unmounting. I was hoping to do it without root privs, just like nautilus does. How do I mount it though, with the automatic label detection and mount in /media?
[04:12] <dougb_freebsd> KE1HA: oooohhh, clever!
[04:12] <Callum_Laptop> WinstonSmith: isn't it dynamically linked...?
[04:13] <dougb_freebsd> that pulled in glib for sure, let me check if that's enough to do what I need
[04:13] <phil> #linuxoutlaws
[04:13] <WinstonSmith> Callum_Laptop, not with VLC thats why i love it so. DVD and nearly all codecs right out of the box
[04:13] <Callum_Laptop> WinstonSmith: well, why isn't everything else statically linked, like libdvdnav...
[04:14] <KE1HA> dougb_freebsd:  then the otherone I think is libgtk2.0-dev
[04:14] <Callum_Laptop> undecim: you can't do that, the X server actually runs under root, thats how its able to do some root-only things without permission
[04:14] <eightball> what do i need to do ?
[04:14] <yo> cual el el server de ubuntu en español?
[04:14] <WinstonSmith> Callum_Laptop, libdvdnav?
[04:15] <xangua> !es | yo
[04:15] <dougb_freebsd> KE1HA: ok, the purple-dev got me a lot further, but the gtk stuff was missing, so you read my mind :)
[04:15] <Callum_Laptop> WinstonSmith: yeah
[04:15] <iuyiyiyu> i have a question, Is there a way to set your ping for a minimum  time?
[04:15] <perlsyntax> Anyone get a soundbaster card to workin ubuntu?
[04:15] <rpcesar> hello. I am using the latest version of ubuntu and trying to create a seperate wine prefix without using playonlinux
[04:16] <eightball> how to use wine ?
[04:16] <undecim> Callum_Laptop: Really? I thought that it dropped a lot of root privs with KMS. And I didn't think it was a function of root, but rather devicekit or in older versions hal. There used to be a command (devkit-disks --unmount, I think) in older versions for this, but that doesn't seem to be available in 10.04
[04:16] <eightball> how to get dvd to play?
[04:16] <rpcesar> if i type wineprefixcreate, it tells me that i need to install 1.2, I currently have 1.3.1 build from them
[04:16] <undecim> Callum_Laptop: s/function of root/function of X/
[04:16] <rpcesar> if i do an apt get of 1.2 it will revert me, however, the command then still fails
[04:17] <sacarlson> perlsyntax: it didn't work out of the box?  maybe try the backport alsa package I see in synaptic
[04:17] <thune3> rpcesar: you don't need wineprefix create anymore, you just export WINEPREFIX="whatever" and any following wine command will create the internals if they don't exist.
[04:17] <perlsyntax> what you mean?
[04:17] <perlsyntax> blackport?
[04:17] <dougb_freebsd> KE1HA: thanks, that got me a lot farther along, but now i'm running into pkg-config errors (although I don't rule out that this is a problem of the sources I'm trying to compile)
[04:17] <rpcesar> hmmm, but I kinda tried that and it and it bailed stating that it didnt have the windows directory
[04:18] <Callum_Laptop> undecim: yeah, but the actual mounting/unmounting is a function that can only be performed by root, and the X server actually running as root (with the GUI account not being root) being why it can mount/umount things without permission
[04:18] <dapenguin> hello, can anyone answer any questions on ati cards?
[04:18] <perlsyntax> sacarlson,What you mean backports?
[04:18] <sacarlson> perlsyntax:  run synaptic and do a search for backport  you will see some with alsa the sound one
[04:18] <Black_Phantom> Mac OS X is actually stable as Linux ?
[04:18] <perlsyntax> i see
[04:18] <KE1HA> dougb_freebsd:  have you installed pkg-config ?
[04:19] <Callum_Laptop> Black_Phantom: A system is only as stable as its hardware and software =P
[04:19] <sacarlson> perlsyntax: backports are upgrades that have been added to older kernels.
[04:19] <dapenguin> does anyone have an ati hd 5000 card and run Ubuntu 10.04 or 10.10?
[04:19] <rpcesar> i created the directory for the wine prefix i wanted in my home directory, and then went and set it as my wine prefix doing "env WINEPREFIX=~/myprefix winedbg pathtomyinstaller"
[04:19] <dougb_freebsd> KE1HA: yes, that seems to have come in with the build-essential package, but it can't find the pidgin.pc file
[04:19] <rpcesar> it bailed in that stating i did not have a windows directory, so it was not a valid wine prefix
[04:19] <Callum_Laptop> Black_Phantom: how can we tell whether Mac OS X is as stable as Linux when a good portion of it is closed source...
[04:19] <eightball> how to get dvd to play?
[04:19] <r1pp3rm4ya> hello all
[04:20] <rpcesar> eightball: insert a dvd into your cd tray
[04:20] <perlsyntax> sacarlson,So that will help me but i need thesame kernel number?
[04:20] <eightball> ok
[04:20] <undecim> Callum_Laptop: Are you sure? Because I've done this before in the past, it just doesn't work with this version of Ubuntu. From what I understand, X should no longer have to run as root (even though it still does) because the graphics card was the last hurdle, and KMS keeps X from dealing with that. So it this going to be a problem too before someone writes something to replace devicekit, which replaced hal?
[04:20] <perlsyntax> sacarlson,Plan to use ubuntu 10.04.1
[04:20] <KE1HA> dougb_freebsd:  apt-get install pidgin-dev
[04:20] <dougb_freebsd> ah
[04:20] <sacarlson> perlsyntax: if you go for the meta package it will auto select the needed kernel version you need
[04:20] <dapenguin> can anyone answer me if you have a hd 5000 card?
[04:21] <undecim> Callum_Laptop: Do you maybe have a link with information on this? I couldn't find anything in the Ubuntu release notes about dropping devicekit or the mounting of external media
[04:21] <perlsyntax> that sould help then?
[04:21] <dougb_freebsd> KE1HA: w00t!
[04:21] <rpcesar> another thing. i want to have a wine prefix without calling an installer (I want to copy the files straight from windows for a CS4 integration)
[04:21] <Callum_Laptop> hmmm, I need to research that more, undecim...
[04:21] <xangua> !anyone | undecim
[04:21] <eightball> hav op dvd with
[04:21] <eightball> what program ?
[04:21] <eightball> i try al not working
[04:21] <dougb_freebsd> KE1HA: thanks, you rock :)  I am going to go install this now, bbias
[04:21] <dapenguin> eightball, u having problems playing dvds?
[04:21] <KE1HA> dougb_freebsd:  Gud Luck :-)
[04:22] <dapenguin> use vlc or mplayer
[04:22] <eightball> yes
[04:22] <rpcesar> I use mplayer
[04:22] <eightball> i have vlc not working
[04:22] <sacarlson> eightball: this might help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[04:22] <dapenguin> eightball: what happens then?  exactly... do you get a msg?
[04:22] <Callum_Laptop> undecim: last I checked DeviceKit or HAL can't actually mount filesystems =P
[04:23] <dapenguin> does anyone own or use ati cards in their ubuntu system?
[04:23]  * Callum_Laptop waves at dapenguin
[04:23] <amzertech> HAL?!   there's no more HAL
[04:23] <undecim> Callum_Laptop: Then what exactly does Devicekit do? And how was I able to use devicekit-disks --mount in the past?
[04:23] <dapenguin> Callum__Laptop:  which one, if you don't mind me asking?
[04:23] <Callum_Laptop> dapenguin: X300s and X600s
[04:23] <eightball> ok
[04:23] <dapenguin> oh!
[04:23] <eightball> now what?
[04:24] <dapenguin> how is the X300?
[04:24] <Callum_Laptop> undecim: DeviceKit sends signals to programs about hardware being inserted/removed =P
[04:24] <dapenguin> eightball:  what happened?
[04:24] <r1pp3rm4ya> hello all
[04:25] <undecim> Callum_Laptop: So how can I get the same functionality as I had in the past with devicekit-disks?
[04:25] <eightball> vlc not playing but load?
[04:25] <eightball> kmplayer same
[04:25] <grodii3k> apt-get install phpmyadmin -> doesn't let me browse /phpmyadmin in my browser - is there an association that I need to fix? I have already restarted my server...
[04:25] <dapenguin> you need the 'restricted codecs' repo ... and have the required codecs packages installed, eightball
[04:25] <undecim> Callum_Laptop: Installing the package of the same name gives me "No candidate version found for devicekit-disks"
[04:25] <eightball> not sure how to do that ?
[04:26] <Callum_Laptop> wasn't devicekit-disks renamed to udisks?
[04:26] <dapenguin> eightball:  did you check the link sacarlson gave you?
[04:26] <sacarlson> grodii3k: are you local on your phpmyadmin?
[04:26] <KE1HA> eightball:  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[04:26] <undecim> Callum_Laptop: That's it! udisks --mount
[04:26] <undecim> Callum_Laptop: tyvm
[04:26] <eightball> sorry close that to early
[04:27] <Callum_Laptop> undecim: uhh, what did I do? lol
[04:27] <phil> Hey, I'm looking for some help
[04:27] <dapenguin> eightball:  check this:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[04:27] <grodii3k> sacarlson: no, SSH'd
[04:27] <dougb_freebsd> KE1HA: thanks again, it's working :)
[04:27] <eightball> ke1ha got that
[04:27] <dapenguin> eightball:  do you know how to check your sources.lst?
[04:27] <undecim> Callum_Laptop: devicekit-disks was renamed to udisks
[04:27] <Callum_Laptop> yeah
[04:27] <sacarlson> grodii3k: I think by default the security will only allow you access from the local machine
[04:27] <eightball> no
[04:27] <KE1HA> dougb_freebsd:  well done :-)
[04:28] <bastid_raZor> eightball: install 'ubuntu-restricted-extras' package.
[04:28] <eightball> still a bit new at ubuntu
[04:28] <grodii3k> sacarlson: I know theres a way to re-associate, but i can't remember what it is :s
[04:28] <bastid_raZor> eightball: or are you using kubunut?
[04:28] <eightball> ubuntu-restricted-extras is already the newest version
[04:28] <eightball> ubuntu
[04:28] <eightball> 10.4
[04:28] <perlsyntax> where can i download the ubuntu dvd
[04:29] <Jordan_U> Callum_Laptop: For future reference, the ability to mount filesystems is not because X is running as root but because policykit is.
[04:29] <sacarlson> grodii3k: I guess you could vnc into it and open up the restricted access.  I'm only used to access over my browser
[04:29] <bastid_raZor> !medibuntu | eightball
[04:29] <perlsyntax> i found it
[04:29] <Callum_Laptop> Jordan_U: well, yeah, I kinda meant that but I forgot the name of the system that actually did that
[04:29] <p_res> perlsyntax: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/lucid/release/
[04:30] <dapenguin> eightball:  yeah, you will want the medibuntu repo
[04:30]  * Callum_Laptop drills PolicyKit into his head
[04:30] <dougb_freebsd> is ubuntu-restricted-extras a package that adds new "Software Sources" to the software center app?
[04:30] <dapenguin> does anyone use an ati hd 5000 card, here?
[04:30] <bastid_raZor> dougb_freebsd: no.
[04:31] <perlsyntax> i thought there was one on ubuntu 10.04.1?
[04:31] <eightball> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu copy the command section ?
[04:31] <p_res> perlsyntax: google it and see.
[04:31] <phil> Hey
[04:31] <phil> Dapenguin
[04:31] <phil> is that an older card or newer card?
[04:31] <p_res> perlsyntax: there's cd images for 10.04.1.
[04:31] <dapenguin> phil: it's a newer card
[04:32] <dapenguin> code name of the series is evergreen... like hd 5770
[04:32] <phil> Because ATI has only made linux drivers (to use the card and support it) for the last 5 years
[04:32] <perlsyntax> i need  dvd
[04:32] <grodii3k> scarlson - I'm using SSH in my remote server. in that, i did an apt-get install phpmyadmin, then tried xx.com/phpmyadmin - this didn't work.  I am trying to access via browser, remotly
[04:32] <phil> They could give you proprietary drivers from the web site
[04:32] <dougb_freebsd> ah, ok, I have the url now
[04:32] <dapenguin> phil: but, apparently, they are not working well for some people
[04:32] <amzertech> everyone who's using chromium would you go to google.com and search for "maps"  and see if that crashes that tab?   thank you
[04:33] <dapenguin> phil: so, I hoped to find some people here who have one in their machine
[04:33] <phil> Oh, I see
[04:33] <dapenguin> phil:  I want to upgrade my current card although it's a nvidia
[04:33] <amzertech> this started happening to my browser last couple days
[04:33] <dapenguin> phil: I prefer an ati linux friendly card but the support is iffy?
[04:33] <phil> Well, i wouldn't know about newer gen cards
[04:34] <phil> I have an old, not supported graphics *chip* from ATI
[04:34] <p_res> perlsyntax: there doesn't seem to be a dvd release for the .1 inclusion. Just d/load the 10.04 release and update to latest.
[04:34] <perlsyntax> ok
[04:34] <phil> but i've heard
[04:34] <phil> that all of their newer cards have been very well supported
[04:34] <eightball> ok test dvd again
[04:34] <phil> and even on my friend's machine, he got it running really well on 10.04
[04:34] <dapenguin> phil: oh, i do too...but, it's not in a computer right now... lol ...ati x300se
[04:35] <cozziemoto> phil,  yes I believe most of the newer cards are supported
[04:35] <eightball> VLC cannot set the DVD's title. It possibly cannot decrypt the entire disc.
[04:35] <phil> Wow, i have a Rage 128 pro
[04:35] <phil> from windows 95 era :)
[04:35] <p_res> amzertech: working here with Chromium and Google Maps.
[04:35] <dapenguin> oh, that's old :)
[04:35] <eightball> but screen went lager on vlc do i need to restart?
[04:35] <perlsyntax> sacarlson,If i do the backports my soundbaster should work then?
[04:36] <phil> Why yes, it IS quite old
[04:36] <phil> i can't even enable compiz o_o
[04:36] <KE1HA> perlsyntax:  I dont think there's a Lucid 10.04.1 DVD, or at least I can't find one in releases.
[04:37] <dougb_freebsd> the iso for the cd I burned said 10.4, but when I boot it says 10.4.1 everywhere
[04:37] <eightball> http://releases.ubuntu.com/lucid/
[04:37] <KE1HA> dougb_freebsd:  tiz true, 10.04.1 is the point release.
[04:38] <dougb_freebsd> ... which reminds me, I need to d/l the amd64 version
[04:38] <phil> I think you would be fine to go with an ATI card,
[04:38] <p_res> perlsyntax: there's a thread on the forums and some mirrors have .1 DVD release. See here... http://bit.ly/bJQ9Lj
[04:38] <phil> especially if it is the very newest
[04:38] <jijutm> where do i get the 32 bit eclipse
[04:38] <KE1HA> dougb_freebsd:  use zsync does MD5 check for you.
[04:39] <dapenguin> phil: well, I am scared to buy one ... cuz I am a videophile :)
[04:40] <greezmunkey> Here's a good mirror of ubuntu releases: http://www.google.com/advanced_search?hl=en&output=linux&restrict=linux
[04:40] <KE1HA> p_res:  those are 10.04.0 not the point release, but would be close.
[04:40] <phil> No need, from my experience, ATI has taken their newest cards very seriously
[04:41] <phil> and any bugs that were there at launch have all been ironed out
[04:41] <p_res> KE1HA: sorry, I didn't check any of them. UbuntuForums.org members were posting the links.
[04:41] <eightball> hi back got the dvd to work in movie player hw to get to wotk in clv?
[04:41] <eightball> vlc?
[04:42] <p_res> perlsyntax: just do as suggested. Download .04 release and just aptitude full-upgrade.
[04:42] <KE1HA> p_res:  most of those are the Apr-2010 releases, lots fo changes between there and the point releases.
[04:42] <eightball> and thanks all for the help
[04:42] <p_res> KE1HA: Like I said, I never checked any links or dates.
[04:42] <NBrepresent> Hi, I just installed ubuntu and as part of the installation process, the installer said that it could transfer files from my windows partition
[04:43] <phil> Now, do you have a 64 bit system ?
[04:43] <p_res> NBrepresent: yeah... and...
[04:43] <phil> Or do you use 32 bit?
[04:43] <NBrepresent> The documents and pictures etc. are not in my home folder, where should i look for them?
[04:43] <dapenguin> phil:  who?  me?
[04:43] <greezmunkey> Sorry, I just realized I posted the wrong link! This one is correct: http://mirrors.cat.pdx.edu/ubuntu-releases/
[04:43] <phil> yes,
[04:43] <phil> you ;D
[04:44] <dapenguin> I'm going to re-install ubuntu... I'm using an older ver. but I am doing a new compu. build so ... :)
[04:44] <eightball> ok where to get help on mounting sims 3 and installing it on wine?
[04:44] <eightball> ok pay on linux?
[04:44] <dapenguin> phil:  probably 64-bit since I have 4GB of RAM :)
[04:44] <p_res> NBrepresent: dunno. I don't use Windows or that function of the installer. I just know about it.
[04:44] <KE1HA> NBrepresent:  have a read of this, may help you some: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwitchingToUbuntu/FromWindows/TransferringFilesAndSettings
[04:45] <phil> dapenguin: yeah, that only makes sense XD Well, all driver support for 64 bit products is shaky
[04:45] <elitexray> Does anyone know how to bring back the email/chat/tweet icon onto the panel?
[04:45] <dapenguin> eightball: I think you should read on the restricted formats... the codecs are a sticky thing... :)  but, then sometimes video drivers are an issue :)
[04:45] <NBrepresent> KE1HA: yeah, i saw that, but that's for manually transferring things over
[04:45] <p_res> NBrepresent: did you actually transfer the files?
[04:46] <dapenguin> phil:  but, I'll also use Virtualbox so I'll have 32-bit guests although I might have a partition of a real 32-bit install too... so, i can test and compare :)
[04:46] <NBrepresent> p_res: I thought the installer was going to transfer the directories from my windows partition... that's what it said it was going to do.
[04:46] <dapenguin> phil:  yeah, the flash thing with 64-bit among other things... i thought that had progressed but not sure what the current state is
[04:46] <NBrepresent> But since I don't see them in my home dir, maybe it didn't.
[04:46] <eightball> ok
[04:47] <p_res> NBrepresent: yeah but don't you have to tick the checkbox for it to do so?
[04:47] <KE1HA> NBrepresent:  Which ISO are you using for the installation ?
[04:47] <dapenguin> I guess I'm asking support questions before I run into trouble lol
[04:47] <maco> dapenguin: there was a flash 10 64bit beta. adobe killed it
[04:47] <phil> dapengun: I'm really surprised, actually, because 64 bit has been around for years; but then again, so has linux...
[04:47] <dapenguin> maco: really?!?
[04:47] <NBrepresent> I did tick the checkbox for documents and pictures.
[04:47] <maco> dapenguin: yes
[04:47] <NBrepresent> KE1HA: How can I tell you which ISO i used to install?
[04:47] <dapenguin> maco:  so, does it not work or it's just stuck at the beta state before it was killed?
[04:47] <p_res> dapenguin: just use 32bit flash, there's absolutely no problems with it. Probably why Adobe killed off the 64bit project.
[04:48] <NBrepresent> it would be whatever is most current and the default download at ubuntu.com
[04:48] <phil> dapenguin: Flash has actually dropped linux support with 64 bit
[04:48] <NBrepresent> i just downloaded it yesterday
[04:48] <phil> dapenguin: Adobe doesn't like us
[04:48] <dapenguin> p_res:  32-bit flash which can run on 64-bit os, correct?
[04:48] <maco> dapenguin: it works, but a major security fix was released a few weeks after they killed it off, and of course the 64bit version doesnt have that security fix
[04:48] <KE1HA> NBrepresent:  Ok, TNX
[04:48] <p_res> dapenguin: yep.
[04:48] <dapenguin> i see
[04:48] <eightball> ok got the dvd to work in vlc thanks all for the help
[04:48] <dapenguin> may I inquire that adobe is in mikeysoft's pocket?
[04:48] <p_res> dapenguin: No dramas with it here on both Firefox and Chromium.
[04:49] <eightball> ok where to get help on mounting sims 3 and installing it on wine?
[04:49] <smil3y> im not aware of flash 64 bit even for windows, is there?
[04:49] <dapenguin> p_res:  I use firefox most of the time but i run chrome from time to time
[04:49] <phil> smil3y: my Dad has windows 7 64bit and he has 64 bit flash
[04:49] <phil> smil3y: it IS there for windows
[04:49] <eightball> firefox main chrome opera apple
[04:50] <dapenguin> it's weird ... 64-bit processors but flash doesn't want to pursue 64-bit flash?
[04:50] <smil3y> phil>  ah, ok i thought they were in the same boat
[04:50] <dapenguin> yeah, apple and mikeysoft... that's where adobe likes to sit?
[04:50] <p_res> dapenguin: then you'll have no dramas with either of them.
[04:50] <phil> dapenguin: 1) Adobe and Apple are sworn rivals ;) 2) 64 bit flash is available for windows
[04:50] <CHaodzip> how to open desktop in full console
[04:51] <phil> Opera is my main browser; has been since opera 9 ;)
[04:51] <eightball> how to auto load a hadr drive on to the desk top like when you go to places it loads?
[04:51] <eightball> hard
[04:51] <dapenguin> phil:  well, adobe like mikeysoft more than linux, we know that ;)
[04:52] <ipv5> howdy
[04:52] <dapenguin> anyway, i have used 64-bit linux usually and haven't had flash problems too often... i know there's a need for the 32-bit libs and all that ;)
[04:52] <phil> dapenguin: Of course, because mikeysoft still caters to the wishes of Adobe ;) Apple said "screw you"
[04:52] <wick94> guys wts the official ubuntu 10.10 channel?
[04:52] <Jordan_U> wick94: #ubuntu+1
[04:52] <wick94> thnx
[04:53] <phil> I'm not quite in that boat yet
[04:53] <Jordan_U> wick94: You're welcome.
[04:53] <phil> XD I don't need 64 bit for 512mb of pc133 RAM :P
[04:53] <dapenguin> phil:  ah... i hear ya... :)
[04:53] <IdleOne> Microsoft, you both mean Microsoft. spelling it wrong does not display your leetness
[04:53] <dapenguin> well, the laptop I'm on has 2gb but only a centrino m cpu
[04:54] <maco> dapenguin: um, centrino isnt a cpu
[04:54] <dapenguin> IdleOne:  it doesn't?
[04:54] <phil> Oh,
[04:54] <phil> well
[04:54] <dapenguin> but, I had other clever names, too... :-/
[04:54] <dapenguin> :)
[04:54] <phil> My dad has dual core and lords it over me
[04:54] <phil> ;D
[04:54] <maco> dapenguin: centrino means "intel's current cpu, gpu, and chipset", whatever that happens to be at the time (i think its those 3... i know its a set of 3 things, only 1 of which is the cpu)
[04:54] <p_res> exit
[04:55] <dapenguin> phil: always good to have at least 1 dual core machine at your disposal :)
[04:55] <dapenguin> maco: oh... well, it's for a thinkpad t41
[04:55] <Cale> Is there a better way than uninstalling PulseAudio to control the volume of my headphones separately from my speakers? (Also, my mic isn't working)
[04:55] <phil> Of course; because he does things that (although would require half the resources on linux..) take up all his resources
[04:56] <maco> dapenguin: cat /proc/cpuinfo   <-- thats how you find out what your cpu is
[04:56] <PeterFA> Is using Ubuntu greater than 10.04 recommended?
[04:56] <maco> dapenguin: i have a 4 year old "centrino" machine, which means it has a core duo
[04:56] <dapenguin> maco: or i could google? :)
[04:56] <dapenguin> I'm on xp right now... actually...
[04:56] <phil> PeterFA: No, anything higher than 10.04 is highly unstable.
[04:57] <eightball> had windows 7 but hard drive is going bad ubuntu work fine n it
[04:57] <phil> PeterFA: They are just tests and stuff to show what the next one will be like
[04:57] <PeterFA> phil, ok. I'm trying to solve my sound problem. I believe people with my sound card cannot get sound with Ubuntu.
[04:57] <dapenguin> oh, yeah, i meant pentium m cpu... oops
[04:57] <Cale> ah, whatever, I'll just remove PA yet again
[04:58] <dapenguin> I hope 10.10 and ati evergreen cards play nice... i don't know if i should get such a card or stay with nvidia
[04:58] <KE1HA> dapenguin:  centrino is intel's mobile technology, wifi and wimax. the cpu is probabbly a Pentium-m.
[04:58] <phil> dapenguin: Wow, that's old... my mom's (and dad's old) laptop (Dell Latitude D600) Uses those
[04:58] <dapenguin> KE1HA:  yeah, you're right
[04:58] <dapenguin> phil:  I know :)
[04:58] <osiris> any ekiga users here ?
[04:58] <dapenguin> phil:  but, my p45 machine will be built soon... i just need to get my q6600 cpu back :)
[04:59] <eightball> what work is easy and work better in linux nvidia or amd/ati?
[04:59] <phil> dapenguin: wow :o I want a powerfull machine myself ;)
[04:59] <dapenguin> eightball:  don't ask me... trying to get perspective on this but the group is quiet :)
[04:59] <phil> nvidia is always easier to use in linux
[04:59] <eightball> ok
[04:59] <phil> Nvidia has always been supported out of the box
[04:59] <phil> (as far as i can remember)
[05:00] <dapenguin> i want to go with the linux friendly side but the support is usually lacking for ati
[05:00] <valbaca> eightball, intel is good for non-gaming boxes, just my $.02
[05:00] <phil> But not for most of the Newer ATI cards
[05:00] <wenguang> hello
[05:00] <wenguang> i came from china
[05:00] <dapenguin> phil:  true but you have to usually install manually... it's a major task to install the latest nvidia driver, usually
[05:00] <dapenguin> however, I've done it more than a few times ;-)
[05:00] <KE1HA> valbaca:  my Intel QX9770 would disagree with that :-)
[05:01] <vishwajeet> hi
[05:01] <vishwajeet> can you tell me how to connect my computer with ubuntu with the internet
[05:01] <valbaca> KE1HA, sorry to hear that
[05:01] <dapenguin> phil: my machine won't be powerful compared to the new machines out nowadays but it's good enough for me once i get it built ;)
[05:01] <valbaca> vishwajeet, dsl, dial-up, wireless, cable?
[05:02] <eightball> can you help he pick out an nvidia card that can be use a PVR =personal Video recorder ? and can play games like star craft 2?
[05:02] <sinurge> vishwajeet, which isp do u have
[05:02] <phil> dapenguin: Yeah, but honestly, most of these machines are unnecessary horsepower :) Like, who needs 16 gb ram and 8 1gb dedicated graphics cards o_e
[05:02] <KE1HA> valbaca:  no need to be, it smokes all my AMD-9X cpus' :-)
[05:03] <valbaca> KE1HA, oh I was talking graphics cards, i ONLY use intel (sry, offtopic)
[05:03] <dapenguin> phil:  right... and I can only afford 1 1gb graphics card ...lol
[05:03] <vishwajeet> I guess it is dsl
[05:03] <dougb_freebsd> is there any way to stop my "wi-fi connected" light on my laptop from blinking whenever I get traffic on that link?
[05:03] <vishwajeet> but I have connected it with the cable
[05:04] <KE1HA> valbaca:  :-) Yeah, we;ll get busted if we don't get back On-topics.
[05:04] <phil> I gtg, ppl]
[05:04] <phil> I'll  see you all later :P
[05:04] <phil> bye :)
[05:04] <phil> FOSS4EVER XD
[05:04] <vishwajeet> valbaca it is dsl
[05:05] <blockhead> Hey, anyone know the code after I installed Wine for using ConvertXToDVD
[05:05] <blockhead> I haven't installed ConvertXToDVD as it seems it won't
[05:05] <sinurge> vishwajeet, ask ur provider am sure he has a install manual or link to help u connect to the internet
[05:05] <valbaca> vishwajeet, if it doesn't "just work" try going to 192.168.0.1
[05:05] <valbaca> this is usually the settings for your dsl box
[05:06] <vishwajeet> It is comcast service provider in this location, I just got this server today and am trying
[05:06] <vishwajeet> but I do not know much about it
[05:06] <vishwajeet> ok
[05:07] <smil3y> vishwajeet>  should be pretty straightforward.  connect ethernet cable to rear of dsl modem, connect other end of ethernet cable to your ethernet port on computer.  restart computer and modem, done.
[05:07] <blockhead> #winehq
[05:07] <SnakDoc> what do i need to look up in order to manage multi users on multi machines? looking for something simular to active directory.
[05:07] <vishwajeet> I am trying
[05:08] <valbaca> vishwajeet, one thing that worked with talking to my ISP to get my dsl initially setup was telling phone support that I was using a Mac (they didn't know what Linux was) and they walked me out
[05:08] <ipv5> hey guys, quick question: does the ubuntu installer work well with fakeraid? specifically the intel matrix storage manager in an x58/ich10r board like the asus rampage III gene?
[05:08] <valbaca> walked me through it*
[05:09] <ipv5> i'm considering getting a couple of ssd to put in raid 0...
[05:09] <vishwajeet> Thanks
[05:09] <smil3y> vishwajeet>  give the following commands in a terminal, ifconfig eth0 down
[05:09] <smil3y> vishwajeet> ifconfig eth0 up
[05:10] <smil3y> vishwajeet>  post output here
[05:10] <valbaca> dsl
[05:10] <valbaca> woops, nvm that
[05:10] <valbaca> !dsl | vishwajeet
[05:11] <SgtSly> New to Ubuntu and I have kind of a stupid basic navigation related question, but couldn't find out the answer through the support page.
[05:11] <maco> SgtSly: ask it
[05:11] <zosky> hey yall
[05:11] <smil3y> valbaca>  thats not what he has, its straight dsl, no login
[05:12] <SgtSly> I installed the desktop version on a net book
[05:12] <KE1HA> ipv5:  Trim is not well supported yet for SSD's, they work, don't think you'll be seeing full benefit of SSD fer a while.
[05:12] <SgtSly> Now I am having problems seeing a whole window on the small screen.
[05:12] <rww> SgtSly: hold down the Alt key, drag the window
[05:12] <maco> SgtSly: alt+click&drag can move a window
[05:12] <SgtSly> There yo0u go thanks.
[05:12] <valbaca> smil3y, sorry, I didn't see where vishwajeet said that.
[05:13] <KE1HA> ipv5:  You'd probably be better off with a couple of Raptors or similar high speed SATA's, at least fer the time being.
[05:13] <zosky> how to get my camera files via CL ? can get them from dolphin with the URL 'camera:/USB PTP Class Camera@usb:/' but i need to get to them from a bash script
[05:13] <valbaca> linux 2.6.33 has full trim support for ssd -> maverick will have it
[05:14] <eightball> ok
[05:14] <KE1HA> valbaca:  trim is not fully supported in the Kernel. Didn't say SSD's were not supported at all.
[05:15] <smil3y> vishwajeet>  did any of that work?
[05:15] <eightball> what about usb 3.0  ??
[05:16] <ipv5> KE1HA: valbaca: so as of 10.10 will I get trim (and i guess more to the point good performance overall) out of an SSD raid 0 on an intel matrix fakeraid?
[05:16] <Jordan_U> ipv5: Unless you have to dual boot with windows I'd avoid fakeraid.
[05:16] <ipv5> Jordan_U: yeah, ordinarily i would do software raid, but a lot of the point of the fancy ssds is for gaming under (ugh) windows
[05:17] <KE1HA> eightball:  don't quote me on this, but I thought USB-3 was supported in something like 2.6.30.31
[05:17] <eightball> ok
[05:17] <KE1HA> 30 / 31
[05:17] <valbaca> ipv5, yes. trim support started in 2.6.28; FULL trim support was completed in 2.6.33. I'm using lucid with my ssd and it's screaming fast
[05:18] <eightball> what size of ssd do you have or need  for ubuntu?
[05:18] <ipv5> valbaca: sweet. maybe this is a silly question, but is trim unaffected by raid striping?
[05:19] <brandon420> heyy
[05:19] <ipv5> eightball: i was considering getting a pair of 64GB ssds for a raid0
[05:19] <camjack> Im having some trouble with my ubuntu installation. Usually when you run the install menu from the live cd, it give you the choice to create a ubuntu partition from the free space of your windows partition, the result being the ability to dual boot both windows and ubuntu. However as of right now the live CD's installation menu only gives me the option to erase the entire windows partition and replace it with Ubuntu. Any thoughts?
[05:19] <scott---> ah, /list ubuntu wasn't the brighest idea I've ever had
[05:19] <brandon420> anyone here know how to run a shoutcast type thing?   how to dj to a server, and then have it streamed to others
[05:19] <valbaca> ipv5, (no dumb questions) I would think it would HELP with trimming
[05:19] <Jordan_U> camjack: Could you post a screenshot?
[05:19] <Jordan_U> !screenshot | camjack
[05:19] <KE1HA> valbaca:  and that's a patched kernel right?
[05:20] <ipv5> eightball: but i was only going to use maybe 20GB for the ubuntu side
[05:20] <madf0x> camjack manual partition then?
[05:20] <eightball> ok
[05:20] <brandon420> anyone know how to stream music to a shoutcast server?
[05:20] <IdleOne> is it possible to create a shortcut to a dir? what I want to do is be able to cd Desktop/some-dir with the command "cd desk-dir "
[05:21] <camjack> madF0x, you mean like use EASEUS or equivalent to create another partition to install ubuntu on?
[05:21] <valbaca> KE1HA, I'm using the stock kernel. i haven't noticed any decrease in speed and I figure my laptop will die before i wear out the ssd
[05:21] <ipv5> valbaca: that's interesting. i guess i had envisioned its understanding of the physical layout being hampered by having contingent-appearing blocks on separate devices. glad to hear it's not an issue
[05:21] <zambz> hey guys, what's the best irc client for ubuntu? similar to mIRC on Windows?
[05:21] <valbaca> eightball, I'm using a 50GB and I'm only using 21% of it (I keep music on my external hd)
[05:21] <eightball> ipv5 i might invest in ssd be need an idea what size and the cost is a isue
[05:21] <zambz> i'm using xchat atm, anything better
[05:21] <KE1HA> valbaca:  fare enough. mute point if you happy with it.
[05:21] <zambz> ?
[05:21] <eightball> isue
[05:22] <eightball> chatzilla firefox add on
[05:22] <zosky> so i take it no1 has a clue what to do with my camera ATM ?
[05:22] <dapenguin> zambz:  XChat?
[05:22] <dapenguin> I'm on mIRC now
[05:22] <ipv5> chatzilla here
[05:22] <camjack> ubottu, I cant upload a screen shot right now because I booted back to windows after the partition tool failed
[05:22] <brandon420> xchat herr
[05:22] <zambz> thanks, will try chatzilla too
[05:22] <eightball> chatzilla here
[05:22] <Jordan_U> IdleOne: Does it have to be cd or would you be OK creating a new "cd_desk_dir" command?
[05:22] <zambz> cool :) is there a way to save favourite channels in xchat?
[05:22] <zambz> like mirc?
[05:23] <IdleOne> Jordan_U: that is fine, actually probably better
[05:23] <brandon420> yeah
[05:23] <nocturnus> i can't install ubuntu with unetbootin on a 150G usb drive, help me
[05:23] <brandon420> you can use scripts
[05:23] <dapenguin> what does chatzilla need?
[05:23] <madf0x> well it probably helps that I doubt 150 usb drives exist
[05:23] <IdleOne> Jordan_U: I just have no idea where I would put this "new command"
[05:23] <IdleOne> rather define it
[05:23] <eightball> i use it with firefox not sure how to use it by it self
[05:24] <valbaca> nocturnus, I think unetbootin needs FAT32 and FAT32's max hd size is 32GB
[05:24] <xangua> dapenguin: firefox¿
[05:24] <nocturnus> valbaca: the partition was 10G though
[05:24] <nocturnus> valbaca: are you telling me there's no way to install linux on a 150G drive with unetbootin?
[05:24] <lingmoult> i just installed freenx via this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX - however the guide says unknown job freenx-server when i try and start it via `service freenx-server start` or `start freenx-server` (it's an upstart job) - any ideas?
[05:25] <camjack> Im having some trouble with my ubuntu installation. Usually when you run the install menu from the live cd, it give you the choice to create a ubuntu partition from the free space of your windows partition, the result being the ability to dual boot both windows and ubuntu. However as of right now the live CD's installation menu only gives me the option to erase the entire windows partition and replace it with Ubuntu. Any thoughts?
[05:25] <Jordan_U> IdleOne: In ~/.bashrc you would add something like: alias cd_desk_dir="cd ~/Desktop/desk-dir"
[05:25] <zambz> camjack, did you download the DVD or CD?
[05:25] <valbaca> nocturnus, no, just figuring things out. have you checked the checksum of the iso unetbootin is using?
[05:25] <IdleOne> Jordan_U: Thank you :)
[05:25] <Jordan_U> IdleOne: You
[05:25] <zambz> the DVD doesn't have an install option to install "inside" windows
[05:25] <eightball> ok SeaMonkey
[05:25] <Jordan_U> IdleOne: ... You're welcome :)
[05:25] <zambz> you need the CD version mate, the 650 MB one
[05:26] <zambz> e.g. ubuntu-10.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso
[05:26] <nocturnus> valbaca: no?
[05:26] <nocturnus> valbaca: its not even being recognized as a boto device
[05:26] <nocturnus> does it need a boot flag from the partition manager
[05:27] <valbaca> nocturnus, yes
[05:27] <ipv5> camjack: is your partition full and/or fragmented?
[05:27] <lingmoult> note that service --status-all does list freenx-server
[05:28] <eightball> going to bed thanks all for the dvd play back help
[05:28] <nocturnus> valbaca: are you sure unetbootin requires fat32
[05:28] <camjack>  I just defragmented the drive, at another suggestion. didnt accomplish anything
[05:28] <camjack> the drive isnt near full,
[05:28] <vishwajeet> any one could tell me how to write the http proxy information
[05:28] <sacarlson> camjack: I guess you are forced to repartition resize manually.  gparted can do this but anytime you do this type of operation there can be danger in loses so make sure you backup your personal files first.
[05:29] <ipv5> camjack: if the installer won't give you the dual-boot option you could try using gparted manually to resize the partition and add in the new ones you want
[05:29] <ipv5> ha, yeah i'm too slow; what sacarlson said ;-)O
[05:29] <valbaca> nocturnus, I'm mostly sure. looking right now
[05:30] <camjack> ipv5, Im gonna try that now and if doesnt work I'll be back.
[05:30] <sacarlson> camjack:  partitionmagic is another option that can be run from the windows side.  again it can still be a danger of losses
[05:30] <camjack> thanks again to everyone for all the help.
[05:31] <wick94> camjack thts wt the community is for ;)
[05:31] <valbaca> nocturnus, found it: http://tinyurl.com/unetbootin-fat32
[05:32] <IdleOne> Jordan_U: thanks for the reminder. I added my alias and also noticed I had already created a few other aliases. :)
[05:32] <nocturnus> valbaca: where does it say fat32 won't work on drives larger than 150G for unetbootin purposes
[05:33] <valbaca> nocturnus, it shouldn't. that's stumping me too.
[05:33] <nocturnus> ?
[05:33] <nocturnus> it doesn't say anywhere, so what do you mean 'it shouldn't
[05:33] <happysam> hey everyone, i'm having trouble with the trackpad on my dell1525. It seems there is a slight delay in the actual click after tapping it. Any fixes?
[05:34] <valbaca> nocturnus, sorry, i meant to say: it shouldn't not work (it should work! lol)
[05:34] <WinstonSmith> nocturnus, isnt 150 G enough for your purpose?
[05:36] <nocturnus> WinstonSmith: that's not the problem
[05:36] <nocturnus> WinstonSmith: please pay attention
[05:36] <grayatrox> Hithere, I'm trying to install Ubuntu for the first time, but the installer doesn't seem to detect my Windows Install. How do do I set up the partitions properly?
[05:37] <melon> @graytrox: try using Wubi
[05:37] <shcherbak> does win using whole hd?
[05:37] <madf0x> grayatrox specify partitions manually, cause it should still see the partition anyways
[05:37] <grayatrox> Wubi tries to download the ISO again, but I do not have broadband
[05:37] <WinstonSmith> nocturnus, sry didnt read that :(
[05:38] <madf0x> I can walk ya through it
[05:38] <nocturnus> WinstonSmith: unetbootin is supposed to not work with >32G partitions because it requires fat32
[05:38] <grayatrox> madf0x, That's what I'm asking, last time I tried, It installed, but it didn't boot
[05:38] <nocturnus> someone in #archlinux tells me it doesn't require that, and he says it works on ext2
[05:38] <melon> make sure the iso and wubi are in the same folder and they are the same versions (wubi 10.4 should have ubuntu 10.4)
[05:38] <vishwajeet> Can you tell how to write http proxy information?
[05:38] <WinstonSmith> nocturnus, Fat32 can do much bigger partitions then 32 gigs
[05:39] <greezmunkey> happysam: you could look in gconf-editor, desktop/gnome/accessibility/mouse (or some such) see if that gives you something useful.
[05:39] <grayatrox> I had the ubuntu disk sent in the mail. Will I have to make an iso of that disk?
[05:39] <KE1HA> nocturnus:  8TB if I remember correctly, been a while though.
[05:39] <melon> you can via IMGBURN (freeware) on windows
[05:39] <WinstonSmith> nocturnus, 2-16 TB
[05:39] <WinstonSmith> depends on cluster size
[05:39] <yowshi> anyone able to help me suss out an audio issue?
[05:40] <yowshi> the issue being it dont want to work
[05:40] <greezmunkey> happysam: you are responsible for any damage to your system, check what the widgets do first. You have been warned.
[05:40] <greezmunkey> !pm > happysam
[05:40] <madf0x> yowshi did you download the codecs? What part of "audio" wont work?
[05:41] <grayatrox> Ok, thanks madf0x
[05:42] <yowshi> madf0x: i am pretty sure i have the codecs installed but nothing can seem to make any sound
[05:42] <melon> Anyway, could someone tell me that when I try to run "screenlets-manger" in the terminal it gives me a "import pygtk not found" error when pygtk is installed?
[05:43] <melon> why*
[05:43] <Mathuin> melon: have you tried reinstalling python-gtk2 ?
[05:44] <mintux> I have two wired connection but one of them connected automatically that I don't want . how can I set default wired connection to connect ?
[05:44] <nocturnus> does fat32 have the 'boot' boot flag ?
[05:45] <Mathuin> The applet that switches users and shuts down has disappeared, and I can't see which applet it was to bring it back.
[05:45] <KE1HA> nocturnus:  if you set it in your partition program it will. All you want to know, and more about FAT32: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_Allocation_Table
[05:45] <melon> Mathuin: Yes via Synaptic Package Manger and still same error
[05:46] <Mathuin> melon: huh.  It went away when I deinstalled, rebooted, and reinstalled.
[05:46] <melon> Mathuin: hmm I will try that process in that order
[05:46] <Mathuin> deinstall screenlets first.
[05:47] <nocturnus> KE1HA:  .. yeah?
[05:47] <dougb_freebsd> hmmm, that reminds me of a question ... has anyone here ever used gparted to create a large (100GB or so) fat32 primary partition, then installed windows XP into it?
[05:48] <madf0x> No but if youre comfortable with partitioning then you can't harm much by trying
[05:48] <neurodamage> I have a completely messed up system is there a way to just trim the thing down as far as packages  go, ie. delete everyting save what it's initial installation of ubuntu-server was
[05:48] <greezmunkey> dougb_freebsd: sounds like a recipe for disaster, or at least a reconfig!
[05:48] <dougb_freebsd> why disaster?
[05:48] <dougb_freebsd> (I'm going to start with a clean disk, btw)
[05:49] <greezmunkey> dougb_freebsd: why not use ntfs?
[05:49] <madf0x> ESPECIALLY try it if you got a clean disk! then you really cant harm anything :)
[05:49] <sacarlson> dougb_freebsd: my memory is not too good but I think fat32 can only work up to about 32gig  with max 4gig file size
[05:49] <melon> Mathuin: noted
[05:49] <greezmunkey> sacarlson: ;)
[05:49] <WinstonSmith> dougb_freebsd, i have installed XP on 80 GB drives w/ Fat32
[05:50] <KE1HA> nocturnus:  when you use fdisk, gparted or whatever disk partitioner, you can set the boot flag on any given partition. You usually see the little "*" by it if it's set to boot.
[05:50] <WinstonSmith> but not formatted with parted
[05:50] <dougb_freebsd> greezmunkey: I need a large fat32 partition to hold data that I share b/t windows and unices ... right now I have a windows primary partition, 2 freebsds, an extended partition with ubuntu and my fat32 data disk
[05:50] <Divecks> !botsnack
[05:50] <dougb_freebsd> I'd like to combine the windows and data partitions
[05:50] <Mathuin> Oooh, solved my own issue.  'indicator-me' was gone somehow.
[05:50] <dougb_freebsd> WinstonSmith: ah, excellent, how did you create it to start?
[05:50] <blockhead> Hey, anyone know the code after I installed Wine for using ConvertXToDVD. I haven't installed ConvertXToDVD as it seems it won't
[05:51] <WinstonSmith> dougb_freebsd, 2 secs gonna look it up
[05:51] <Divecks> !ping
[05:51] <Divecks> !test
[05:51] <dougb_freebsd> sacarlson: scandolous tripe, perpetrated by microsoft who wants you to switch to ntfs so no other OS can read your data :)
[05:52] <dougb_freebsd> I already have created the large fat 32 partitions for years, what I haven't even done is installed winxp into them
[05:52] <madf0x> I can read ntfs data no problem o.O
[05:52] <dougb_freebsd> madf0x: yeah, there are tools to do that now, but 7 years ago when they introduced ntfs, there were not
[05:52] <WinstonSmith> dougb_freebsd, i used this : ftp://ftp.heise.de/pub/ct/ctsi/h2format.zip its a windows CLI tool though
[05:52] <dougb_freebsd> however, microsoft has stuck with the party line of "fat 32 only for small disks"
[05:53] <dougb_freebsd> ok, thanks WinstonSmith, I'll give that a look
[05:53] <WinstonSmith> dougb_freebsd, this tools has been around more or less 6 years
[05:53] <jennifer2> if I want to migrate some wifi passwords (gnome network manager) to another computer - which dot folders/files do i need?
[05:53] <WinstonSmith> its from c't a really good german IT magazine
[05:54] <dougb_freebsd> yeah, I'm familiar with it
[05:54] <dougb_freebsd> madf0x: if they can access your physical hardware you're already 0wn3d :)
[05:55] <melon> Mathuin: how come now all that loads when I boot up is a white terminal? all I did is remove "python-gtk2" and screenlets
[05:56] <Mathuin> melon: I don't know.  Now reload python-gtk2 and screenlets, and reboot again.
[05:56] <Mathuin> That's how I fixed it.
[05:56] <melon> how do I reload python-gtk2? "sudo apt-get python-gtk2?
[05:56] <sacarlson> dougb_freebsd: well this document from microsoft seem to support my statement but they call it max volume. You cannot format a volume larger than 32 gigabytes (GB) in size using  the FAT32 file system during the Windows XP installation process.  http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314463  maybe you can have multi volumes that add up to bigger than 32gig
[05:57] <madf0x> ^^^ during the XP install process :D
[05:57] <sacarlson> madf0x: yes so maybe after install you can make it bigger.
[05:58] <dougb_freebsd> sacarlson: key words being, "under the windows installation process" :)
[05:58] <Mathuin> melon: "sudo apt-get install screenlets" should drag in python-gtk2 as well.
[05:58] <dougb_freebsd> you have to create and format the partition using other tools
[05:58] <elitexray> does Shutterworth uses his own OS?
[05:58] <melon> Mathuin: ah thx will try now
[05:59] <yowshi> grrrr
[05:59] <sacarlson> dougb_freebsd: so maybe that is only supported by 3rd party software that microsoft didn't support.
[05:59] <rww> elitexray: no, he uses OS/2
[06:00] <elitexray> is there another form of ubuntu unix?
[06:00] <nocturnus> elitexray: kubunut and others
[06:00] <nocturnus> kubuntu*
[06:01] <nocturnus> backtrack linux is ubuntu based now, so yo can easily use it to hack networks and make a profit
[06:01] <dougb_freebsd> the fat32 spec goes up much higher than that, you can go up to 8 terabytes with the right clusters, or up to 2 terabytes on a standard mbr-compatible disk
[06:01] <iluminator101> How do i enable private home partition to automount on startup
[06:02] <bikcmp> Hi, how would I add the partner's repo?
[06:02] <WinstonSmith> sacarlson, that 32GB limit its just an artificial barrier imposed by M$
[06:02] <greezmunkey> dougb_freebsd: have you looked at fuse?
[06:02] <bikcmp> Actually... maybe I should back up... I'm trying to install sun-java6*
[06:02] <sacarlson> dougb_freebsd: I'll stick to ext3 and above myself.  you can read that from windows also.  some frown on this but I've done it with no problem.
[06:02] <bikcmp> i installed it fine
[06:02] <bikcmp> but javac: command not found
[06:02] <bikcmp> :(
[06:02] <WinstonSmith> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_Allocation_Table
[06:03] <dougb_freebsd> greezmunkey: I have, and unfortunately fuse in freebsd is very very scary and/or outright bad for your data
[06:03] <dougb_freebsd> sacarlson: how would you mount an ext3 volume in windows?
[06:03] <madf0x> I wonder if anyone can get windows to run under an ext3/4 o.O
[06:03] <madf0x> probably not
[06:03] <dougb_freebsd> I actually need to learn more about ext*, that's one reason I'm installing ubuntu in the first place
[06:03] <sacarlson> dougb_freebsd: I use a 3rd party software to enable that.
[06:04] <WinstonSmith> sacarlson, what do you use to read ext3 under windows? i used some older driver but that supported only ext2 if i recall correctly..
[06:04] <dougb_freebsd> care to share the name/url? :)
[06:04] <sacarlson> http://www.soluvas.com/read-browse-explore-open-ext2-ext3-ext4-partition-filesystem-from-windows-7/
[06:04] <lincoln6echo> bikcmp: inubuntu click system > administration > software sources >   authenticate  > select the 'others' tab and then select the 2 choices there
[06:05] <bikcmp> lincoln6echo: I enabled it; i'm using ubuntu via ssh though
[06:05] <WinstonSmith> sacarlson, thx
[06:05] <bikcmp> lincoln6echo: back to my question though... I installed sun-java6* and javac is not found.
[06:05] <WinstonSmith> ahh thats the one i used but new version
[06:06] <lincoln6echo> bikcmp: then that's a great question because I have never done that before....ssh style   :|
[06:06] <dougb_freebsd> sacarlson: thank you, I'll give that a trye
[06:06] <greezmunkey> dougb_freebsd: search on ext3fsd.
[06:06] <bikcmp> lincoln6echo: yah
[06:06] <bikcmp> any ideas on my javac problem?
[06:07] <WinstonSmith> sacarlson, does this mount the partition under a drive letter or can you only browse etc?
[06:08] <madf0x> If youre browsing it, then its mounted :)
[06:08] <lincoln6echo> bikcmp: unfortunately not... I would manually download and install it.  but you probably know more about it than me....i'm still somewhat of a newb
[06:08] <WinstonSmith> madf0x, nope
[06:08] <greezmunkey> dougb_freebsd: yikes, I fat fingered that, check here: http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2007/03/mount-ext2-or-ext3-partition-in-windows.html
[06:08] <dougb_freebsd> sacarlson: does this soluvas run on winxp?
[06:08] <WinstonSmith> madf0x, i have an explorer-type windows proggie which does that... just explores
[06:09] <bikcmp> lincoln6echo: heh
[06:09] <bikcmp> at least you admit it ;)
[06:09] <dougb_freebsd> greezmunkey: thanks, I'll look at that too
[06:09] <lincoln6echo> bikcmp    :)
[06:10] <sacarlson> dougb_freebsd: they have versions that do run on winxp,  that's what I was using.  I just gave you the link since it was newer
[06:10] <dougb_freebsd> ok, thanks
[06:11] <dougb_freebsd> I would love to have a unix file system to share data with, fat32 works but it has limitations
[06:11] <elitexray> Which linux is better Ubuntu vs Kubuntu
[06:11] <madf0x> Ubuntu=GNOME desktop+ GNOME tools
[06:12] <madf0x> Kubuntu=KDE desktop+KDE tools
[06:12] <madf0x> So....do you like KDE or GNOME?
[06:12] <elitexray> I
[06:12] <elitexray> ive never experienced with KDE
[06:13] <dougb_freebsd> boot the live cd and give it a test drive :)
[06:13] <elitexray> Yeah I just might
[06:14] <elitexray> KDE has similarities to Windows 7's interface
[06:14] <madf0x> Just a note, ive had serious issues with the latest kubuntu across multiple re-installations that only a fresh ubuntu install "fixed"
[06:14] <madf0x> That and there are more gnome programs with significant less bugs..
[06:15] <elitexray> So gnome is preferred above kde
[06:16] <madf0x> Depending on who you talk to
[06:16] <madf0x> I USED to love KDE but I've converted. Just an opinion though
[06:16] <greezmunkey> kate is a pretty nice editor though...
[06:17] <Ruum_> kk well I hopefully should be fine now... ttyl guys!
[06:17] <yowshi> grrr it plays but i aint getting any sound out of the damned speakersa
[06:17] <elitexray> I only just heard about kde since you mentioned Shutterworth operates on KDe
[06:17] <dougb_freebsd> kde and gnome both have plusses and minuses, it sort of depends on what feels right to you
[06:18] <maco> elitexray: O_o if mark uses kde, i'm surprised, seeing as kubuntu was an afterthought suggested by the community
[06:18] <Guest11259> hello
[06:18] <dougb_freebsd> and both are highly configurable, so what you install is just a starting point
[06:18] <arvind_khadri> Hi, I am unable to see the statistics of a windows client. I get a message telling that -l parameters are missing and also Socket connection is being timed out.
[06:20] <Guest11259> hehe
[06:21] <yowshi> thats just bizzare. it required an alsa reload while something was playing
[06:21] <yowshi> i tell ya ubuntu pushes my critical thinking anmd investigation skills
[06:22] <bikcmp> Hi everyone, i'm tyring to install sun-java6-jdk, but when I do javac, it says javac: command not found.
[06:22] <bikcmp> it's the jdk IS installed though...
[06:22] <Guest11259> you can install javac first
[06:23] <bikcmp> E: Couldn't find package javac
[06:23]  * bikcmp shrugs
[06:23] <bikcmp> Guest11259: how would I do that/
[06:24] <Guest11259> are you chinese?
[06:25] <bikcmp> no...
[06:25] <bikcmp> lol
[06:25] <greezmunkey> like it or not we're all Chinese.
[06:26] <rww> I, for one, am Atlantean.
[06:26] <sweetpi> bikcmp: maybe its not in your PATH, javac is in /usr/lib/jvm/<version>/bin/javac
[06:26] <lincoln6echo> greezmunkey::  ?   i think your right...
[06:26] <bikcmp> I know java5 worked fine
[06:26] <greezmunkey> rww: I think China holds the mortgage on Atlantis as well...
[06:26] <bikcmp> sweetpi: that was it
[06:26]  * bikcmp hugs sweetpi 
[06:27] <lincoln6echo> bikcmp:   :)
[06:27] <sacarlson> bikcmp: I just tested my install and at the command javac works for me on ubuntu 10.04,
[06:27] <bikcmp> sacarlson: i'm on 8.04 compiling stuff
[06:28] <sacarlson> bikcmp: I just upgraded to 10.04 about 1 month ago and was running 8.04 with javac ok there also
[06:28] <bikcmp> hrm
[06:28] <bikcmp> i donno
[06:28] <bikcmp> only 5 hours until this is done compiling, what fun
[06:28] <bikcmp> :)
[06:29] <sacarlson> bikcmp: I have the restriced extra package installed.  I know that installs part of my java
[06:29] <arvind_khadri> Its javacc
[06:30] <lincoln6echo> goodnight all
[06:30] <sacarlson> bikcmp: I see this javac 1.6.0_18  when I run javac -version
[06:31] <bikcmp> whoa
[06:31] <bikcmp> 100 erros
[06:31] <madf0x> smooth
[06:32] <meditator> hello.. i was working with rsync using ssh .. i have added the script to cron. when i run it, it works, but when it runs at thr specified time, it gives errors.. could anyone help please?
[06:33] <sacarlson> meditator: it would help a bit if you told us the errors you had.
[06:34] <meditator> sacarlson, opening connection using: ssh -i /home/meditator/.ssh/XXXXX 192.168.100.12 rsync --server -vvvlogDtprze.iLsf --delete . /media/Data [sender] _exit_cleanup(code=12, file=io.c, line=601): about to call exit(12)
[06:34] <meditator> thats the error
[06:34] <meditator> in the log file specified
[06:36] <sacarlson> meditator: I see no error in that
[06:36] <meditator> sacarlson,  my script is:   rsync -azpt --delete --stats -e "ssh -i /home/meditator/.ssh/XXXXX" /media/Data2/Data/ 192.168.100.12:/media/Data > /home/meditator/rsync_logs/$(date).log
[06:36] <meditator> sacarlson,  but it doesnt work.. the backup doesnt happen..
[06:36] <dougb_freebsd> can you set up rsyncd on 192.168.100.12?
[06:36] <meditator> i can..
[06:37] <meditator> would it make a difference?
[06:37] <dougb_freebsd> maybe,  :)
[06:37] <meditator> :)
[06:37] <dougb_freebsd> sacarlson is right though, we need to know the error
[06:38] <dougb_freebsd> try adding -v to the ssh command line, and/or look in the system logs
[06:38] <meditator> how do i find out the error?
[06:38] <meditator> ok.. let me try again
[06:40] <sacarlson> meditator: you might find an error in /var/log/auth.log
[06:40] <adahendra> ask : can i make own jacket using Ubuntu Logo? Where i can contact Ubuntu for  license permission.
[06:42] <Guest17243> hello
[06:43] <mtx_init> adahendra: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Official
[06:43] <adahendra> mtx_init: Thank You
[06:44] <meditator> sacarlson, Mycomp CRON[5220]: pam_unix(cron:session): session opened for user meditator by (uid=0)
[06:44] <meditator> thats the error
[06:44] <meditator> in the /var/log/auth.log
[06:45] <meditator> but does it look lik an error? it just looks like a log of access?
[06:47] <dougb_freebsd> use ssh -v
[06:47] <dougb_freebsd> I should say, add -v to the command line
[06:52] <meditator> dougb_freebsd, i added -vvv to the command line and also changed the "ssh -i" to  "ssh -i -v"
[06:53] <meditator> still the output is no different..
[06:53] <dougb_freebsd> from cron, or on the command line?
[06:54] <meditator> on the command line.. i have saved a .sh file .. and am running the file from cron..
[06:54] <dougb_freebsd> try running the commands that are in the .sh file on the command line itself
[06:54] <ActionParsnip> meditator: you don't need the file extension. They don't mean much in linux. You could change the extension to .jpg and it'd still run
[06:55] <meditator> ok.. let me try again..
[06:55] <dougb_freebsd> ActionParsnip: true, but nautilus could get confused :)
[06:56] <ActionParsnip> dougb_freebsd: nautilus is dumb and should use file rather than silly extensions like windows does, its soooo 1993
[06:56] <dougb_freebsd> it did evil things yesterday when there was a png file that was named .jpg
[06:56] <dougb_freebsd> yes, agree on that completely
[06:56] <cccasket> I'm looking for a software multiplexing solution - send same keystrokes to multiple X windows on same display. Any suggestions for existing projects that do that?
[06:56] <cccasket> Example HotKeyNet under Windows does this
[06:57] <meditator> dougb_freebsd,  should it run as x application or just "default behaviour" ?
[06:57] <dougb_freebsd> meditator: when I say "command line" what do you think I mean? :)
[06:58] <dougb_freebsd> hint: open up a terminal window
[06:58] <jubei> anybody know how I can refer to the windows start button in metacity?
[06:58] <jubei> (and the left arrow for that matter)
[06:59] <greezmunkey> jubei: super
[06:59] <jubei> greezmunkey, ?
[06:59] <meditator> oh ok.. from the command line it works alright..
[06:59] <ActionParsnip> jubei: in linux the "windows key" is called Super
[07:00] <greezmunkey> jubei: on you keyboard, right?
[07:00] <jubei> greezmunkey, oh i got it. thanks^^ And the left arrow?^^
[07:00] <intok> installation of 10.4.1 32-bit stuck at 83%(importing documents and settings) for the last 20 mins, i this normal?
[07:00] <greezmunkey> jubei: uh..."left" arrow ?!? :)
[07:00] <dougb_freebsd> meditator: ok, so the next step is to try running the script on the command line and see if you get errors
[07:00] <jubei> lol
[07:01] <carlo> ciao
[07:05] <ELREY> anyone knows how can i quickly format a recently added HD with ext3?
[07:05] <Muelli> ELREY: mkfs.ext3
[07:06] <iflema> ELREY sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/[whatever]
[07:06] <ELREY> ty!
[07:06] <ActionParsnip> ELREY: it will need to have a partition too, if it is unpartitioned (rare) you will need to use fdisk to make a FAT
[07:06] <Muelli> but tools like palimpset or gparted should support that, too
[07:07] <ELREY> actually i working from a vm
[07:07] <ELREY> and i added an unpartitioned HD
[07:07] <Muelli> ELREY: don't listen to ActionParsnip. You don't need a FAT for your ext3. And you don't need fdisk. it's hostile. parted is way nicer.
[07:08] <Adam12131> how can i fix my flash drive - it won't unmount and when i set ubuntu not to mount it and try fix format the entire thing it fails "Error creating partition table: helper exited with exit code 1: Error calling fsync(2) on /dev/sdb: Input/output error"
[07:08] <ActionParsnip> Muelli: both will make the partition table if one is needed
[07:09] <Gobgrot> Hi all, Im new to linux and was wodering if anyone can suggest a few good websites for new people to learn?
[07:09] <ActionParsnip> Muelli: how is fdisk "hostile"
[07:09] <iflema> ELREY OR to partition in cli     sudo cfdisk /dev/[whatever] without the numbers i.e. sda
[07:09] <Guest80936> After Installing Ubuntu, I have found that It reformatted my drive instead of installing to a partition like I had originally directed it to, How do I get my data back?
[07:09] <rww> ActionParsnip: "file allocation table" and "partition table" aren't synonyms.
[07:09] <ActionParsnip> rww: d'oh
[07:09] <Adrian__> Hahaha
[07:10] <Muelli> ActionParsnip: it's UI is 30 years old. And you feel it once you've started it.
[07:10] <Adam1213> how can i force linux to format a flash drive
[07:10] <ActionParsnip> Muelli: still works and does what it says on the tin. The UI to the man pages is equally old....
[07:10] <Muelli> i.e. selecting a partitions type is so... 70s...
[07:10] <ActionParsnip> Guest80936: restore from backups, simple
[07:10] <ELREY> how can i check which disk is each one? sda1 sda2, etc? is there any way to retrieve disk info?
[07:11] <greezmunkey> I just checked, and Muelli is right! fdisk hates me.
[07:11] <Muelli> ELREY: blkinfo
[07:11] <ActionParsnip> ELREY: sudo fdisk -l    will list the disks and their partitions
[07:11] <Muelli> ELREY: blkid, sorry
[07:11] <cccasket> ELREY: df -h      as well
[07:11] <Muelli> cccasket: nope. only for mounted partitions
[07:12] <ActionParsnip> Muelli: it might be mounted
[07:12] <Muelli> ActionParsnip: it might be not. *shrug*
[07:12] <Guest80936> I am new to Ubuntu, how do I resize my partitions?, It has given me a 21 GB swap instead of the 8 GB that I formatted it as
[07:13] <Muelli> Guest80936: uh. you might want to try gparted. but you might shred your data.
[07:13] <ActionParsnip> Guest80936: boot to live CD. You can manipulate partitions there
[07:13] <manipulate> o`_`o
[07:14] <cccasket> Any suggestions for a software multiplexer for me to use? I just need to send keystrokes to multiple X windows at the same time. Can't find anything like that
[07:14] <dougb_freebsd> cccasket: interesting idea, what are you trying to accomplish with that?
[07:15] <ActionParsnip> cccasket: you could wrote a script to take an input and spit it to each. Not sure how though but makes sense to me
[07:16] <cccasket> multi-boxing world of warcraft on wine. I've seen at least one person with a custom python script to multiplex. Was thinking of picking that script up and starting from there if there are no existing mature projects
[07:16] <seekwill> lol
[07:17] <Guest72128> hello
[07:17] <cccasket> there are windows apps: AutoHotKey, HotKeyNet which do what I am interested in. however they are quite flakey in Wine. I'll ask in #wine too, but a Linux native solution would be ideal
[07:17] <ActionParsnip> !shortcut
[07:17] <Guest72128> can somebody help me please
[07:18] <octaviano> someone could help-me to use a pixel view play tv ´´ÚSB´´'ULTRA with UBUNTU 10.04?
[07:18] <ActionParsnip> octaviano: run: lsusb   one line will identify the device, websearch for the 8 character hex ID to find guides
[07:19] <octaviano> when I do it appear prolink model , only it
[07:19] <ActionParsnip> Guest72128: no as yuo haven't asked a question. Try asking your quesion  and we may be able to help
[07:19] <ELREY> i see "Linux" as my partition type.. is it ext2 or ext3?
[07:20] <Guest72128> my linux cannot read kanji ( japanese letter ) any advices ?
[07:20] <ActionParsnip> ELREY: sudo parted -l    will tell you, takes longer but gives more info
[07:21] <slipperychicken> any idear on how to output file access in a file system ?  ie : gedit is reading this, apache wrote that...
[07:21] <slipperychicken> in a debug sort of way ?
[07:21] <KB1JWQ> Guest72128: Edit your locale setting to support UTF8?
[07:21] <meditator> dougb_freebsd, sorry.. was away.. somebody called me for some help.. yes .. i tried running the script from command .. it works alright.. it didnt ask me for any password
[07:21] <slipperychicken> dump_block didn't seem to give file names.
[07:21] <cccasket> slipperychicken: lsof | grep `pidof gedit`
[07:22] <slipperychicken> cccasket, what if you don't know where it's coming from ?
[07:22] <dougb_freebsd> meditator: that sounds to me like you're using ssh-agent, is that right?
[07:22] <cccasket> slipperychicken: you can find out by cross referencing the process ids in output of lsof
[07:22] <dougb_freebsd> slipperychicken: lsof | more
[07:22] <slipperychicken> noted.  i shall take a look.
[07:22] <meditator> DoubleString,  thats right..
[07:23] <meditator> dougb_freebsd, thats right
[07:23] <Guest72128> how to edit local setting ,,from where,,?
[07:23] <dougb_freebsd> meditator: so what does that suggest to you as a possible source of  your error when your script is run from cron?
[07:24] <intok> what driver for an nvidia geforce 6150 se? there is the 173, the 96 and the version current
[07:25] <cccasket> intok, i had good luck with the 173 driver on an 8800gt
[07:25] <meditator> dougb_freebsd,  i have tried to run it through cron as root as well as myself.. but either ways it doesnt work.. so i'm not sure it it is an authentication problem...
[07:26] <rhea-ja> ai..
[07:26] <dougb_freebsd> meditator: when you ssh to the host as yourself ssh-agent is providing the authentication credentials to the remote host
[07:26] <cccasket> intok, that being said, try current first, others if your application isn't performing well
[07:26] <dougb_freebsd> cron != meditator
[07:26] <intok> cccasket well this is an old igp, hasn't it been dropped to legacy status?
[07:27] <cccasket> intok, i would still try current first
[07:27] <slipperychicken> dougb_freebsd, is there a "tcpdump" for file systems ?
[07:27] <meditator> !cron
[07:27] <slipperychicken> dougb_freebsd, lsof is helping... but i can't catch it when it comes in.
[07:28] <dougb_freebsd> slipperychicken: I installed ubuntu 10.04 and it has tcpdump, yes
[07:28] <slipperychicken> dougb_freebsd, to watch file system access.
[07:28] <meditator> dougb_freebsd,  so doesnt ssh-agent provide the credentials when cron is run as myself?
[07:28] <cccasket> slipperychicken, if you grep for the file name you should be able to grab the pid
[07:28] <dougb_freebsd> meditator: because ssh-agent is tied to a login session
[07:29] <brandonban6> evening all, weird issue.... I have a storage drive that sits mounted along side my main drive. If I format/re-label/change my storage drive in any way, then my system will not reboot. Gives a error message that note bootable partition.
[07:29] <slipperychicken> cccasket, but i have no idea where or what this access is coming from.  for all i know it could be a root kit.
[07:29] <Guest72128> my VLC can play AVI,MPEG,well,,but when i am playing MKV file,,there is no sound,,please help
[07:29] <pickel> ?
[07:30] <cccasket> slipperychicken, what access?
[07:30] <greezmunkey> lo
[07:30] <dougb_freebsd> meditator: you need to learn about setting up access for an unattended process ... the usual way to do that is with a restricted account on the target system and a passwordless ssh key
[07:30] <osamorn> i try to run vmware7.1 on my ubuntu 10.04
[07:30] <dougb_freebsd> slipperychicken: take a step back, what problem are you seeing that you would like to solve?
[07:30] <ELREY> i can't get parted -l to work.. is there any other way to get partition type?
[07:30] <cccasket> what dougb said.
[07:30] <osamorn> but i can't stop virtual service , please help about this problem if you can
[07:31] <meditator> oh ok..
[07:31] <Guest72128> my VLC can play AVI,MPEG,well,,but when i am playing MKV file,,there is no sound,,any ideas guys,,?
[07:31] <slipperychicken> cccasket, dougb_freebsd , i'm trying to figure out what is writing to these hard drives.
[07:31] <rhea-ja> 56
[07:31] <well_laid_lawn> 42
[07:32] <dougb_freebsd> meditator: it's not hard to do, you should be able to find docs on it if you search, I vaguely recall a how-to on how to do it with rsync in fact, but it's been years since I've looked at it
[07:32] <meditator> thanks dougb_freebsd , let me try it out.. i had read on forums though.. that public key authentication works.. with rsync..
[07:32] <pickel> is this channel strictly for ubuntu?
[07:32] <dougb_freebsd> slipperychicken: describe that in more detail, what are you seeing that is making you think there is a problem?
[07:32] <meditator> dougb_freebsd, for example http://troy.jdmz.net/rsync/index.html
[07:33] <dougb_freebsd> meditator: for rsync ssh is just the transport layer, a way to establish the connection between systems so that the bits can flow
[07:33] <well_laid_lawn> pickel:  ubuntu or the supported derivatives like kubuntu
[07:33] <dougb_freebsd> that's why in some ways rsyncd is easier, it handles some of that drama for you
[07:33] <slipperychicken> dougb_freebsd, floods of hard disc activity every so often.  i'm sitting at init 1 on the server, swap deactivated, no cron, no syslog.
[07:33] <dougb_freebsd> meditator: yes, that looks like the right stuff
[07:34] <pickel> i know this is newbish of me but i need some good resources as i am completely new to linux
[07:34] <well_laid_lawn> !manual > pickel
[07:34] <cccasket> slipperychicken, have you tried just watching top and checking to see what spikes cpu?
[07:34] <dougb_freebsd> slipperychicken: can you do 'ps ax' at that time to see what processes are active?
[07:34] <meditator> dougb_freebsd, thanks.. let me have a good read into it.. thanks for ur help..
[07:34] <dougb_freebsd> yeah, or top
[07:35] <dougb_freebsd> meditator: no worries, just walk through all the steps and you should be fine
[07:35] <slipperychicken> DoubleString, cccasket i've tried both of those.
[07:35] <slipperychicken> it comes in, does it's thing, and stops.
[07:35] <dougb_freebsd> how long is it going on for?
[07:35] <cccasket> slipperychicken: it sounds like you are talking about a webserver?  have you disconnected it from the network already?
[07:36] <slipperychicken> 5 to 10 secs
[07:36] <slipperychicken> yup
[07:36] <slipperychicken> init 1, no network
[07:36] <cccasket> slipperychicken: physically disconnected as well?
[07:36] <slipperychicken> it's like someone put a script on and it's doing something.
[07:36] <cccasket> slipperychicken: rootkits will lie to you
[07:36] <slipperychicken> cccasket, yes.
[07:37] <slipperychicken> cccasket, no ethernet cable.
[07:37] <X32> Hello, running ubuntu 10.04 and have my laptop vga output connected to a 17" hp lcd monitor, it wants 1280x1024 and I set that in monitors, but all I see is my desktop background and then some magenta colored bars at the bottoms alot larger than my panels and my panels are missing + I don't see whats happening like irc or what im doing just a static desktop... any ideas?
[07:37] <arvind_khadri> Hi, how do i open a port ??
[07:37] <Flannel> arvind_khadri: You don't need to.  Just run whatever program will be listening on that port
[07:37] <dougb_freebsd> ok, in that situation I'd try tripwire .... run it once to get a baseline, then run it again after you see this disk activity to see what's up  .... better yet if you can take the physical disk out of the troubled system and access it on another isolated system
[07:38] <cccasket> slipperychicken, you can't trust the output of any of the utilities we've mentioned if you think you were rooted. and yes, tripwire is great for this kind of thing
[07:38] <slipperychicken> i'll take a look.
[07:38] <cccasket> slipperychicken, md5sum on the utilities/other executables /system files and compare to a known good one - run md5sum from a live cd or another known good system
[07:38] <arvind_khadri> Flannel, this is regarding nagios, I am running it, but connections are being timed out
[07:38] <cccasket> as dougb said
[07:39] <cccasket> but tripwire is for automating that process really
[07:39] <cccasket> good evening and good luck.
[07:39] <slipperychicken> thanks mate.
[07:40] <X32> arvind_khadri, sudo iptables -A INPUT -i eth1 -p tcp --dport 5001 -s 10.10.10.5 -j
[07:40] <Jordan_U> slipperychicken: It might be somthing as benign as syslog getting a lot of messages for whatever reason and needing to write to disk. Have you noticed /var/log/ growing? Do you see any repeated messages from "dmesg"?
[07:41] <slipperychicken> thats an IDS, eh ?
[07:41] <X32> put ACCEPT after -j sorry.
[07:41] <arvind_khadri> X32, thanks
[07:41] <slipperychicken> Jordan_U, i've stopped syslog.
[07:41]  * Oxwivi is a noob.
[07:41] <brandonban6> evening all, weird issue.... I have a storage drive that sits mounted along side my main drive. If I format/re-label/change my storage drive in any way, then my system will not reboot. Gives a error message that note bootable partition.
[07:42] <Jordan_U> slipperychicken: Try keeping iotop open.
[07:43] <X32> Hello, running ubuntu 10.04 and have my laptop vga output connected to a 17" hp lcd monitor, it wants 1280x1024 and I set that in monitors, but all I see is my desktop background and then some magenta colored bars at the bottoms alot larger than my panels and my panels are missing + I don't see whats happening like irc or what im doing just a static desktop... any ideas?
[07:44] <well_laid_lawn> !xrandr | X32
[07:44] <slipperychicken> Jordan_U, i've got top and iotop running at 0.2 secs.
[07:45] <slipperychicken> might be something here
[07:46] <X32> well_laid_lawn, ok, but doing it manually gets me the same result when using..xrandr --output VGA1 --mode 1280x1024 --rate 60
[07:47] <well_laid_lawn> X32:  I've never bothered with dual screens just know the botlink sorry
[07:48] <X32> ya I dont get this..
[07:48] <dougb_freebsd> X32: what video card do you have?
[07:48] <X32> its an hp laptop with some intel based thing
[07:48] <dougb_freebsd> ah, ok
[07:49] <arvind_khadri> X32, -s is the source right??
[07:49] <dougb_freebsd> if it was nvidia I was going to suggest their utility for doing what you are trying to do
[07:49] <X32> arvind_khadri, yea
[07:49] <X32> nope just plain old intel, shows my desktop and magenta bars but not the correct screen...
[07:49] <X32> and I know the monitor works.
[07:49] <dougb_freebsd> X32: are you able to get this configuration working in another OS?
[07:50] <X32> on this machine?
[07:50] <dougb_freebsd> it may be too much excitement for your video card
[07:50] <dougb_freebsd> right
[07:50] <X32> hrm,.... idk if I open display it shows on the monitor
[07:50] <X32> im thing config issue..
[07:50] <X32> thinking
[07:50] <X32> I dont have any other os to try..
[07:51] <slipperychicken> well i'm too tired now, i'll shut it down and look at it in the AM.
[07:51] <slipperychicken> thanks chaps
[07:51] <slipperychicken> and good night
[07:51] <dougb_freebsd> slipperychicken: gl
[07:52] <dougb_freebsd> X32: have you tried doing the Fn-F8 trick?
[07:52] <dougb_freebsd> does your laptop have a blue Fn key somewhere?
[07:52] <X32> its not blue but yea i have fn
[07:52] <X32> that would turn my brightness up
[07:52] <dougb_freebsd> ok, try holding that down, and pressing F8, or perhaps another key that is labeled something similar to CRT/LCD
[07:52] <X32> dougb_freebsd, its an hp pavillion dv6835nr if it helps
[07:53] <dougb_freebsd> it doesn't, sorry, I'm a dell guy :)
[07:53] <DJLuigie> hi
[07:53] <dougb_freebsd> but the concept is similar across pc manufacturers
[07:53] <X32> dougb_freebsd, thanks it worked.
[07:53] <dougb_freebsd> excellent!
[07:53] <X32> dougb_freebsd, its a tiny monitor icon.
[07:54] <DJLuigie> anyone know about streaming using VCL
[07:54] <dougb_freebsd> ok
[07:54] <DJLuigie> i mean VLC
[07:54] <X32> dougb_freebsd, hrm, I had not figured on that since it displayed something.. I feel a little dumb but not too much, thanks for the help
[07:54] <arvind_khadri> could not connect to <ip>:5667 100061 , no connection could be made. i get this error on the client X32
[07:54] <madfox> Ive had a lil exp with VLC
[07:55] <madfox> >lil<
[07:55] <DJLuigie> do you know how to stream out
[07:55] <madfox> nope
[07:55] <dougb_freebsd> X32: glad it worked out :)
[07:55] <X32> arvind_khadri, thats the command that works for me just put in the correct IP, interface where eth1 is, port. and you should be good, check your router too.....
[07:57] <arvind_khadri> X32, -s should be the ip of the client right, from which I want to accept ?
[07:58] <X32> arvind_khadri, yes I use that to make my computer talk to my PS3 which is 10.10.10.5 that is a direct wire connection however so make sure if a router is involved you forward the ports....
[07:59] <X32> arvind_khadri, also you might need to do the same command and replace tcp with udp to open both types of data.
[08:00] <arvind_khadri> X32, i want this kind of setup tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:5666            0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN
[08:01] <X32> arvind_khadri, that is not a real ip?
[08:02] <arvind_khadri> X32, no, but I found this on my current machine with netstat, but I cant find the same on the other one'
[08:04] <Guest32127> anyone know how to have the nautilus script folder called something other than "Script" ???
[08:07] <cccasket> postnote: After a lot more searching, I found xlax http://hea-www.harvard.edu/~fine/Tech/xlax.html for software multiplexing in X
[08:08] <remoteCTRL2> hi guys! can somebody help me install torbutton for firefox pls? i always get some errors that the polipo proxy isnt running properly...?
[08:09] <arvind_khadri> X32, any idea?
[08:09] <madfox> Get the torbutton via add-on as for any config problems check their site
[08:09] <madfox> 95% of all tor problems can be solved by going back and following the installation guide carefully
[08:09] <X32>  arvind_khadri no sorry...
[08:10] <p0pc0rn> how do you boot an encrypted disk from the "boot:" prompt?
[08:10] <p0pc0rn> FDE
[08:11] <p0pc0rn> hello?
[08:12] <sacarlson> p0pc0rn: encrypted disk?  the entire system is encypted not just the /home/users?
[08:13] <p0pc0rn> i created a usb boot image with unetbootin on my FDE encrypted hard drive and now every time i go to boot up it is the boot screen for the .iso, not my hdd ubuntu install
[08:13] <nisstyre65> p0pc0rn: take out the CD?
[08:13] <p0pc0rn> there's no cd
[08:13] <nisstyre65> :[
[08:14] <p0pc0rn> im at the "boot:" prompt but i have full disk encryption. what do i do?
[08:15] <intok> I can see my old Mac network shares, can open pics and PDFs but larger files like MP3s and videos refuse to play, ideas?
[08:15] <sacarlson> FDE?  I would just install a standard ubuntu on your usb flash with unetbootin and add a user that has encrypted /home/user account.
[08:16] <p0pc0rn> sacarlson, i have an install already
[08:16] <sacarlson> p0pc0rn: keep on account unencrypted for repair maintain
[08:16] <p0pc0rn> sacarlson, i have an install already
[08:16] <sacarlson> p0pc0rn: from the sound of it.  it isn't booting.  install takes 10 min
[08:17] <p0pc0rn> sacarlson, i have important data on it
[08:17] <sacarlson> p0pc0rn: did it ever boot?
[08:17] <p0pc0rn> yes
[08:17] <sacarlson> p0pc0rn: well how did you boot it before?
[08:18] <sacarlson> p0pc0rn: do you have the keys?
[08:18] <p0pc0rn> yes i have the key
[08:18] <p0pc0rn> i think
[08:18] <p0pc0rn> but how do i enter it
[08:19] <sacarlson> p0pc0rn: pull your encrypted personal data and make a new boot disk with my method above.
[08:19] <p0pc0rn> oh there's a rescue mode option
[08:21] <sacarlson> intok: did you install restricted extra package?
[08:22] <intok> sacarlson no, but I have all the Gstreamer plugins as well as VLC
[08:23] <qiyong> how to upgrade from 10.04 to 10.04.1 ?
[08:24] <sacarlson> intok: this will give you more codec's and other stuf https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[08:25] <ectospasm> anyone have problems with UbuntuOne consuming massive amounts of I/O?  Is there any way to schedule it so it only runs when I'm not using the machine?
[08:26] <sacarlson> ectospasm: massive I/O?  what type?  from what?
[08:26] <remoteCTRL2> can somebody help me install torbutton for firefox pls? i always get some errors that the polipo proxy isnt running properly...?
[08:26] <ectospasm> sacarlson: Disk I/O
[08:26] <ectospasm> sacarlson: from UbuntuOne
[08:26] <sacarlson> ectospasm: what process?
[08:26] <ectospasm> The sync daemon
[08:27] <ectospasm> It seems to run periodically, consuming I/O (leaving the CPU in a large amount of iowait % according to top and iostat)
[08:27] <ectospasm> like 40-50%
[08:28] <ectospasm> Also, when it happens, input seems to block if it requires disk access.
[08:28] <sacarlson> ectospasm: my command  iotop shows sync_supers at almost zero
[08:28] <Fudge> how can you get the network applet on your bootom panel?
[08:28] <ectospasm> iotop is broken here
[08:28] <Fudge> oh found it yay
[08:29] <ectospasm> sacarlson: iotop consistently complains of CONFIG_TASK_DELAY_ACCT not being configured for this kernel
[08:29] <sacarlson> ectospasm: must me some process you started
[08:29] <p0pc0rn> is there anyone who could help me save my system in rescue mode
[08:29] <sacarlson> ectospasm: what version of ubuntu is this?
[08:29] <ectospasm> sacarlson: iotop does report that the sync daemon is running when my HDD light goes solid on
[08:29] <ectospasm> 10.04
[08:29] <SliMM> I'll start by saying that I like the new Ubuntu.
[08:29] <well_laid_lawn> p0pc0rn:  depends on the issue.. :]
[08:29] <nsar> hello
[08:30] <ectospasm> sacarlson: it's taken me a while to track it down, and the only positive ID on the process has been sync daemon for Ubuntu One
[08:30] <p0pc0rn> well_laid_lawn, i have no idea what the issue is
[08:30] <sacarlson> ectospasm: Ubuntu One what is that a user?
[08:30] <well_laid_lawn> p0pc0rn:  k - you are in rescue mode - why?
[08:30] <SliMM> But I still have some trouble with my video card drivers (ATI, who would've guessed).
[08:30] <ectospasm> sacarlson: Ubuntu One is the cloud storage service provided to Ubuntu users.
[08:31] <ectospasm> 2GB storage for free
[08:31] <ectospasm> 50GB for a "low" fee
[08:31] <sacarlson> ectospasm: oh ok so it's some kind of rsync service.
[08:31] <SliMM> When I try to run Catalyst, I get the following error: No ATI graphics driver is installed, or the ATI driver is not functioning properly.
[08:31] <nsar> i start to get familiar with ubuntu but i am forced to use it as root cause the nm-applet doesn't show my mobile broadband connection when i enter as a normal user what should i do?
[08:31] <p0pc0rn> well_laid_lawn, i have no idea. when i rebooted my computer i was presented with a text based installer. it looks like the mini installer. i chose rescue mode because it is the closes i can get at this point to booting my current install.
[08:31] <SliMM> However, I have installed the drivers and they should be enabled
[08:31] <ectospasm> sacarlson: sorta, it runs on Python
[08:31] <sacarlson> ectospasm: I don't use it,  maybe you can cron it so it runns later
[08:32] <SliMM> any thoughts?
[08:32] <p0pc0rn> closest*
[08:32] <ectospasm> sacarlson: it's a daemon, I don't know about running it in cron
[08:32] <ectospasm> it's not like a script that runs and exits.
[08:32] <well_laid_lawn> p0pc0rn:  so reading between the lines you couldn't boot so put in a live cd?
[08:32] <ectospasm> !one
[08:32] <p0pc0rn> well_laid_lawn, No.
[08:33] <sacarlson> ectospasm: well if it can start and stop create two scripts the do each and setup 2 crontab events when your not using the system and it's still powered up.
[08:33] <well_laid_lawn> p0pc0rn:  where does the installer come into it pls?
[08:33] <p0pc0rn> well_laid_lawn, when i start my system
[08:33] <nsar> should i upgrade the network manager and the applet to solve this problem?
[08:34] <ectospasm> sacarlson: I don't think it works that way
[08:34] <kickingintender> can i run two x server session on single pc
[08:34] <kickingintender> like gdmflexiserver --xnest
[08:34] <well_laid_lawn> p0pc0rn:  I think that is the grub boot menu then
[08:34] <sacarlson> ectospasm: you mean doesn't or cant?
[08:34] <kickingintender> but that one doesnt work
[08:34] <intok> sacarlson What exactly does the Restricted Extras even get me aside from redundant media players? The same files play fine locally, they just wont play when loaded via FTP
[08:34] <ectospasm> sacarlson: I don't know if it _can't_, but it doesn't, and there's no way to control it from the GUI applet used to configure it
[08:35] <p0pc0rn> well_laid_lawn, No. It has install options.
[08:35] <ectospasm> kickingintender: try X nesting
[08:35] <riaz> Hi, how can i install, ubuntu with urdu language support !! i read from the interent, but some menus changed, but not the all pc.
[08:36] <well_laid_lawn> p0pc0rn: so you are not running a live cd but have the option to install, is that right?
[08:36] <sacarlson> intok: what codec does your ftp download need to use?
[08:36] <riaz> i am using lucid.
[08:36] <p0pc0rn> well_laid_lawn, yes #3
[08:37] <sacarlson> intok: if it's the same file it should play then maybe it gets corrupted.  check the md5sum and see if the file is really the same value.
[08:37] <well_laid_lawn> p0pc0rn:  running of a usb stick ?
[08:37] <p0pc0rn> No.
[08:37] <well_laid_lawn> k
[08:37] <stevecam> In Ubuntu we trust.
[08:37] <stevecam> lol
[08:37] <intok> sacarlson various mp4 and wmv files that I know play on this Ubuntu install as a few where originally downloaded from here and moved there.
[08:38] <kickingintender> how x nesting....any command///////////////@ectospasm
[08:38] <nsar> i see how much you trust
[08:38] <well_laid_lawn> p0pc0rn:  I don't know how you got that on the boot menu then - might be quicker to reinstall - unless someone else has a clue
[08:38] <ectospasm> kickingintender: I think you had it with --xnest
[08:38] <sacarlson> intok: well compare the files with md5sum and rerun them both again
[08:38] <ectospasm> you need to do it within the first X session.
[08:38] <nsar> stevecam, what did you mean with that?
[08:39] <stevecam> nsar, nothing
[08:39] <sacarlson> intok: and rerun I mean play them both again the local and ftped file.
[08:39] <kickingintender> ya that really doesnt work and reports a warning message that still not implemented
[08:39] <well_laid_lawn> p0pc0rn:  open the cd player just to check pls
[08:39] <p0pc0rn> I DID
[08:39] <well_laid_lawn> k
[08:40] <kickingintender> hi abhinav
[08:41] <kickingintender> any body wants 2 share remote desktop with me
[08:41] <kickingintender> right now
[08:41] <intok>  sacarlson Well they are playing back fine on the old mac in VLC, it's got a GBit nic but only USB 1.1...
[08:42] <riaz> Hi, how can i install, ubuntu with urdu language support !! i read from the interent, but some menus changed, but not the all pc. using lucid !!
[08:42] <thune3> ectospasm: how long and how often are these i/o stalls resulting from ubuntu one?
[08:42] <kickingintender> riaz there is support for urdu for sure
[08:42] <sacarlson> intok: I don't support mac.  you should md5sum the files on the ubuntu side and verify the play on the ubuntu side
[08:43] <ectospasm> thune3: I don't really know.  Could be a few minutes when I'm heavily using my machine, could be several hours.
[08:43] <ectospasm> thune3: it seemed to be random, until I finally got a positive ID that the sync daemon was eating up I/O as shown in iotop
[08:44] <ectospasm> thune3: that just happened tonight
[08:44] <ectospasm> thune3: I'd been trying to track it down to *something*
[08:44] <riaz> kickingintender, i read this, but this is not working on lucid, some file that tutorial asking to make some changes in, that are not exist.
[08:44] <riaz> http://ur.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B9%D8%A7%D9%88%D9%86%D8%AA:Ubuntu_Linux_Localization
[08:44] <ectospasm> thune3: and I just noticed that the sync daemon could be the culprit
[08:45] <ectospasm> thune3: What I may do is disable Ubuntu One altogether, and see if the problems cease.
[08:46] <SliMM> wtf
[08:46] <SliMM> How do I add a new machine to my Ubuntu One account?
[08:46] <Fudge> not sure if this went  through. is there a way to tell gdm or X to use vt12 as first X server instead of vt7
[08:47] <well_laid_lawn> !wtf | SliMM
[08:47] <thune3> ectospasm: it seems to do an object rescan when it starts, but i don't know about periodically. you might look at the logs ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syndaemon.log and other files in that dir.
[08:47] <SliMM> well_laid_lawn: My bad, sorry.
[08:48] <well_laid_lawn> k
[08:48] <anthon1999> mmsh support ubuntu?
[08:48] <SliMM> Still, I am not able to figure out how to add a machine to my Ubuntu One account...
[08:50] <trijntje> Hi all. I have a bootable usb-drive that I want to clone, but the new drive is not the exact same size, so dd is not an option. I already tried copying all files but it will not boot. What can I do to make this work?
[08:50] <SliMM> trijntje: Is it smaller?
[08:50] <ectospasm> trijntje: you have to write to the boot record of the new drive
[08:51] <trijntje> SliMM, the new drive is smaller, but the old drive has free space
[08:52] <p0pc0rn> I have an external harddrive that was on a system that crashed so I never had a chance to unmount it. Now I'm trying to mount it in a new system and it's saying "Not Authorized". Could anyone please tell me how to mount it?
[08:52] <sacarlson> trijntje: is it at least 2 gig.  or maybe just 1 gig for none persistant is big enuf?
[08:52] <SliMM> trijntje: I guess you have to follow ectospasm's advice or shrink the partition to match the size of the smaller stick and dd
[08:53] <ectospasm> trijntje: http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Booting_from_USB
[08:53] <trijntje> ectospasm, what will that do to the partition and data on the new drive. Do I need to format it first and then write mbr?
[08:53] <trijntje> sacarlson, its 4 GB
[08:54] <ectospasm> trijntje: follow the guide, then transfer your files over
[08:54] <SliMM> I must say, this channel has become a lot more quiet since I last used Ubuntu
[08:54] <ectospasm> SliMM: you have to register now, that keeps the riff raff out
[08:55] <trijntje> ectospasm, i'm reading the link now, thanks
[08:55] <SliMM> ectospasm: Ah, yes
[08:55] <rww> ectospasm: no you don't, #ubuntu isn't +r right now
[08:55] <ectospasm> rww: so they solved the spammer problem?
[08:55] <rww> ectospasm: in that the spammers are not currently causing problems, yes
[08:56] <ectospasm> maybe the traffic hasn't been able to pick back up, since before IIRC a lot more people joined.
[08:56] <muneeb> hi
[08:57] <muneeb> which is best wysiwyg html php editor for ubuntu
[08:57] <muneeb> ?
[08:57] <well_laid_lawn> komposer?
[08:57] <ectospasm> muneeb: html/php WYSWYG?  Is there such a thing?
[08:57] <well_laid_lawn> !info komposer
[08:58] <muneeb> i dont know ectospasm but i'm editing such file that's why asked
[08:58] <ectospasm> muneeb: eclipse may do what you want, maybe
[08:58] <ectospasm> OK, I'm off to bed.
[08:59] <muneeb> well i'm using komposer and quanta+ right now
[08:59] <Akaruz> Hello everyone. I just today installed ubuntu ultimate edition 10.4  :) can someone help me ... How to Find any file and get it search or install.. i need that command for terminal.
[08:59] <KB1JWQ> Akaruz: Say what?
[08:59] <muneeb> Akaruz, try apt-cache search <pkg-name>
[08:59] <sacarlson> trijntje: there is the build in program in ubuntu 10.04 that makes a bootable install disk but I never got it to work for persistance.  that one can be run from System>Administration>Startup disk creator.  for persistance it seems to be broken.
[08:59] <forrestGimp> !info kompozer
[09:00] <riaz> http://ur.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%85%D8%B9%D8%A7%D9%88%D9%86%D8%AA:Ubuntu_Linux_Localization
[09:00] <riaz> kickingintender, i read this, but this is not working on lucid, some file that tutorial asking to make some changes in, that are not exist.
[09:00] <rww> ubottu: derivatives | Akaruz
[09:00] <muneeb> thanx ubottu
[09:00] <Akaruz> muneeb thanks.  and to instal i need  apt-get install <pkg name> ??
[09:00] <trijntje> Akaruz, there is no ultimate for ubuntu, where did you get it?
[09:00] <muneeb> yes Akaruz
[09:00] <KB1JWQ> Akaruz: Ultimate Edition isn't supported here.
[09:00] <Akaruz> lol :D this also on original ubuntu 10.04
[09:00] <Akaruz> :)
[09:01] <Akaruz> 10.4
[09:01] <muneeb> its just Ultimate Edition 2.7 KB1JWQ
[09:01] <Akaruz> Core is 10.4 :) ubuntu
[09:01] <trijntje> sacarlson, I have a slightly weird setup, i'm now gonna try to install grub to the new usb from within the system
[09:01] <muneeb> KB1JWQ, search for it u'll get it
[09:01] <KB1JWQ> muneeb: Right, but Ubuntu derivatives aren't supported here.
[09:01] <IdleOne> Ultimate Edition is NOT supported in this channel.
[09:01] <Akaruz> :) i just asked commands for terminal
[09:01] <rww> Akaruz: and Ubuntu's core is Debian. Doesn't mean we go ask questions in #debian.
[09:02] <KB1JWQ> !mint
[09:02] <Akaruz> i prefer this channel :)
[09:02] <Akaruz> becouse i were here  and like this channel.
[09:02] <killersteak> rawr, derivatives be evol
[09:02] <trijntje> Akaruz, there are good tutorials online for working with the command line. Or type 'man apt-get' in the terminal
[09:02] <KB1JWQ> Or man aptitude
[09:02] <sacarlson> trijntje: is it persistant?  If you find easy persistance builder on the linux side (I have now windows) let me know.
[09:02] <Akaruz> thanks :)
[09:03] <sacarlson> trijntje: I have no windows
[09:03] <muneeb> anybody used Aptana for web developement on ubuntu?
[09:04] <sacarlson> muneeb: no but I did find a cool web developer call kompozer that I like.
[09:05] <muneeb> sacarlson, i'm using kompozer right now but was thinking of trying Atana
[09:06] <trijntje> sacarlson, no, its not persistent
[09:06] <sacarlson> trijntje: so why would it be wierd then?
[09:07] <cike> sensors applet temp1 temp2 temp3 what it mean?
[09:07] <trijntje> sacarlson, I have full disk encryption with /boot on an external usb drive
[09:07] <sacarlson> trijntje: what's the advantage of full encryption?  I guess so no one can modify the code you plan to run?
[09:08] <ordicollege> je m'en fou grave
[09:08] <ordicollege> okai
[09:09] <ikonia> #ubuntu -b *!*@c-71-204-84-104.hsd1.ga.comcast.net
[09:09] <ikonia> oops
[09:09] <ordicollege> je veux la wifi !!!!
[09:09] <trijntje> sacarlson, first of all its cool ;) Secondly it prevents someone modifying /boot to steal my key when i'm not around my laptop
[09:09] <trijntje> !fr
[09:09] <IdleOne> !fr | ordicollege
[09:09] <ikonia> !fr | ordicollege
[09:09] <ordicollege> ouai ouai c'est sa
[09:10] <trijntje> not that the French like people who shout ;)
[09:11] <Dilberto> New Digg sucks!
[09:11] <ikonia> Dilberto: that's nothing to do with ubuntu
[09:12] <maco> Dilberto: not relevant
[09:12] <ikonia> Dilberto: this channel is for ubuntu support discussion only
[09:13] <Dilberto> sorry I just took it to offtopic
[09:13] <Dilberto> :)
[09:13] <pie_time> I just made many long over due ubuntu updates and restarted my system. I have a Full Disk Encryption LUKS encrypted disk that wouldn't boot upon restart and instead brought me to some basic install/rescue screen. There were 2 other drives, one flash usb and one large external usb drive, attached to the computer when I restarted it that also wouldn't mount when I tried to plug them into another ubuntu system. The error message they gave wh
[09:13] <pie_time> en my system tryed to auto mount them was, eg, "Unable to mount 2.0 GB Filesystem", "Unauthorized". Could anyone please help save my system?
[09:16] <Hermanon> Hello,how to use my ubuntu server as a SOCKS5 proxy on my windows pc without Putty?
[09:17] <nogo> tor = socks5
[09:17] <Hermanon> you mean to use my server as a single tor node?
[09:18] <ikonia> Hermanon: you need to install a socks server on your ubuntu machine
[09:18] <nogo> there is a free socks implement, iirc
[09:18] <Hermanon> ikonia: can you recommend me one please
[09:18] <ikonia> the only one I really know works is quite old and it's actually called "socks5"
[09:18] <nogo> dxxxxxx, i forgot
[09:19] <alex88> morning..i've a updated ubuntu install, i have to let my friend download the updates from my pc instead of archived..cause we have atm slow internet.. apt-mirror when installed downloads the full repositories right?
[09:19] <nogo> it's name
[09:19] <Hermanon> no problem,I'll google it thanks
[09:19] <obscure^> im trying to boot ubuntu 64bit off a usb drive, but ending up in grub rescue. I booted off the live cd, mounted and saw that it works. ls /boot gives me a list of files, but from grub rescue ls (hd0,1)/boot says that the dir is empty.. wtf? (i.e. any suggestions?)
[09:19] <ikonia> obscure^: please control your language
[09:19] <ikonia> last obscure^
[09:20] <pie_time> can anyone help please
[09:20] <obscure^> ikonia: k
[09:20] <Saudi> hi
[09:20] <Kira> I'm thinking of buying a new laptop, but most of these vendors can't tell me if their models have BIOS or UEFI 2.x. Is it possible to check using rEFIt? (I have never used rEFIt and there is no mention of UEFI version checking in the documentation.)
[09:20] <bullgard4> FUSE == filesystems in userspace. What prominent Ubuntu applications do use FUSE?
[09:21] <ikonia> bullgard4: you can tell any application to use it, it's just a mount point
[09:21] <nogo> ubuntu use fuse to write your ntfs
[09:21] <SnowmanX11> Quick question: if I want to join to my ubunutu desktop from the ubuntu laptop to access the shared folders (by Samba), what should be the domain field?
[09:21] <nogo> s/use/uses
[09:21] <pie_time> anyone?
[09:21] <bullgard4> ikonia, nogo Thank you very much for your help.
[09:22] <nogo> eh?
[09:22] <Saudi> hi
[09:22] <kaushik> Saudi, hi
[09:22] <Saudi> hw are u
[09:23] <Hermanon> Is it possible to setup a socks5 proxy with ssh+iptables (on remote server)
[09:23] <madfox> Sure
[09:24] <sacarlson>  trijntje: sorry power failure on my side so I lost contact, what's the advantage of full encryption?  I guess so no one can modify the code you plan to run?
[09:24] <Hermanon> madfox: how should I configure iptables then,I'm not an iptables expert :D
[09:24] <kaushik> sacarlson, are you speaking about dizital signature
[09:24] <trijntje> sacarlson, yes, it prevents people from putting something in /boot when your not watching your laptop
[09:25] <madfox> Neither am I, I just got a book on it xD
[09:25] <sacarlson> trijntje: makes sence
[09:25] <madfox> I just know its possible
[09:25] <wentor> hi
[09:25] <pie_time> I just made many long over due ubuntu updates and restarted my system. I have a Full Disk Encryption LUKS encrypted disk that wouldn't boot upon restart and instead brought me to some basic install/rescue screen. There were 2 other drives, one flash usb and one large external usb drive, attached to the computer when I restarted it that also wouldn't mount when I tried to plug them into another ubuntu system. The error message they gave wh
[09:25] <pie_time> en my system tryed to auto mount them was, eg, "Unable to mount 2.0 GB Filesystem", "Unauthorized". Could anyone please help save my system?
[09:25] <sacarlson> Hermanon: I know some iptables
[09:26] <trijntje> sacarlson, and it is cool to have such a setup ;)
[09:26] <sacarlson> trijntje: to me it's trouble waiting to hapen
[09:26] <cast> pie_time: could help you retrieve your data, but nfi how to fix that fubar situation
[09:26] <trijntje> pie_time, what problem do you want to solve?
[09:27] <sacarlson> trijntje: I would just worry about my personal data getting stolen.  there are other tools to verify if things have been changed
[09:27] <perlsyntax> How do i get my soundbaster to work with ubuntu?
[09:27] <Hermanon> sacarlson: I want to route all traffic port say 12345 on remote server to a socks proxy running on port 1234 on same server
[09:27] <cast> pie_time: i'm just going to throw it out there, that he probably wants his system to work [boot] again
[09:27] <wentor> did anyone installed the nvidia driver?, it asked me to restart without X
[09:27] <trijntje> sacarlson, thats true, i've not done that on my main system, just my laptop
[09:28] <pie_time> cast, the brightest crayon in the box!
[09:28] <trijntje> sacarlson, so its no big disaster when things break
[09:28] <perlsyntax> ?
[09:28] <trijntje> pie_time, did you upgrade to a newer version of ubuntu?
[09:29] <sometux> Is it possible to disable udev to make my ubuntu laptop boot faster?
[09:29] <cast> sometux: i'd leave udev alone
[09:29] <pie_time> trijntje, not unless a new one just came out
[09:29] <sacarlson> Hermanon: weird like forward all trafic in port 12345 to out port 1234.  I might have to think about this one.
[09:29] <Baram> I just updated some packages (included a new kernel) on 9.10, now network connection won't work
[09:29] <perlsyntax> Anyone know how to get sound baster to work in ubuntu?
[09:30] <Kira> How do I check whether a computer uses BIOS or UEFI 2.x? (I have never encountered a PC that uses UEFI 2.x)
[09:30] <Baram> I can get it back manually with dhclient, but even that doesn't stay stable
[09:30] <mickster04> perlsyntax: what doesn't work
[09:30] <perlsyntax> my soundbaster sound card someon told me to use backports.
[09:31] <Humle91> hey, anybody here that has experienc with nx machine ? im getting a weird error, it worked fine last time i used it
[09:31] <Hermanon> sacarlson: simply put, I'll use myserver:12345 on firefox on my windows machine as a socks5 proxy,and iptables will route it to the 1234 socks5 proxy
[09:31] <mickster04> perlsyntax: no sound at all?
[09:31] <perlsyntax> right
[09:31] <mickster04> perlsyntax: just checking... more detail is better...
[09:32] <perlsyntax> that all i know
[09:32] <trijntje> pie_time, ok, so it has got nothing to do with grub/grub2
[09:32] <trijntje> pie_time, are there no directions on the tutorial/site you used to create your setup?
[09:33] <sometux> cast, Is there a chance I can't boot  if i disable it
[09:34] <cast> sometux: just don't.
[09:34] <sometux> cast I did that on slackware and everything went well
[09:34] <sometux> cast, I did that on slackware and everything went well
[09:34] <vigge_sWe> How can I fix the clipboard to not erase when I close an application?
[09:35] <sometux> cast,  I did that on slackware and everything went well
[09:35] <cast> sometux: more power to you. i don't care. do what you want.
[09:35] <perlsyntax> i install the backport do i need to reboot?
[09:36] <cast> perlsyntax: unless it's a kernel no
[09:36] <perlsyntax> not sure how to get it to work now.
[09:36] <sometux> cast, I just want to experiment how faster can I make my boot time ?
[09:36] <perlsyntax> Backported drivers for alsa-driver snapshot
[09:36] <Baram> l
[09:37] <cast> sometux: then do what you want.
[09:38] <Humle91> anyone here that has some experinece with nx machine ?
[09:38] <zamba> Humle91: a bit
[09:38] <Humle91> can i pm you ?
[09:39] <Baram> anyone that can help me with networking issues?  Can only get (unstable) connection via dhclient eth0, network-manager no longer functions.  9.10 64b, recently updated with kernel 2.6.32-24 (from ubuntu repos)
[09:39] <Vbitz> whien i was trying to update to 10.10 using "update-manager -d" it said that i needed to download 6006mb
[09:39] <Vbitz> any reason for that
[09:39] <cast> zamba: lol.
[09:39] <perlsyntax> anyone know about the alsa drivers?
[09:39] <sometux> Do anyone recommend disabling udev for faster boot time?
[09:39] <zamba> cast: huh?
[09:40] <mickster04> Vbitz: yeah cos its a whole new operating system? most of the packages will be updated
[09:40] <cast> zamba: nx is a bit
[09:40] <razz1> since I went back to nvidia 185 driver, I am having issues restarting the system. I used to use 256 (or something in 200s) driver. any one know what is the best way to troubleshoot
[09:40] <Vbitz> mickster04 why are the images 700mb on size
[09:40] <perlsyntax> ?
[09:41] <mickster04> Vbitz: well if you download an iso you will get a cd sized image...
[09:41] <Vbitz> yeah, it said it needed to update 3000 packages
[09:42] <Vbitz> can i do it using apt rather then update manager
[09:42] <madfox> update manager USES apt-get
[09:42] <perlsyntax> mickster04,You know what i need to do?
[09:42] <Vbitz> i know that, but does it not switch the software sources
[09:43] <mickster04> perlsyntax: no
[09:43] <mickster04> Vbitz: thats one and the same
[09:43] <mickster04> Vbitz: update manager uses apt-get (or aptitude, im not sure which if they are different)
[09:43] <perlsyntax> does anyone?
[09:43] <Baram> anyone that can help me with networking issues?  Can only get (unstable) connection via dhclient eth0, network-manager (wired) no longer functions.  9.10 64b, recently updated with kernel 2.6.32-24 (from ubuntu repos)
[09:44] <Vbitz> so i can just use apt-get dist-update
[09:44] <vigge_sWe> anyone? I tried parcellite but it doesn't work and glipper doesn't work either (I can't find how to start it)
[09:46] <Baram> anyone that can help me with networking issues?  Can only get (unstable) connection via dhclient eth0, network-manager (wired) no longer functions.  9.10 64b, recently updated with kernel 2.6.32-24 (from ubuntu repos)
[09:46] <madfox> running kubuntu?
[09:47] <sidad> Check your card speed and duplex settings
[09:47] <madfox> or rather what does network-manager say?
[09:47] <Baram> me, running strait ubuntu
[09:47] <pie_time> can anyone tell me how to mount a drive that was unmounted improperly?
[09:47] <Baram> network-manager just fails to connect, it sees eth0 as being there
[09:48] <Baram> but dhclient finds it fine, though earlier it was unstable (so far it's been good though)
[09:48] <vigge_sWe> also, why do I have to login twice?
[09:51] <mne> Hi. I upgraded from Ubuntu Jaunty to Lucid yesterday. Among other problems I could fix by now, suspend to ram no longer works: The screen is just locked, but the machine doesn't go down. Yet I found out that it is working if I induce suspend to ram by issuing the "pm-suspend" command as root. Can you help ?
[09:52] <Baram> /etc/network/interfaces says auth eth0 (NOT commented out), and then #iface eth0 inet dhcp... is that correct?
[09:52] <Gnea> Baram: why are you using /etc/network/interfaces?
[09:53] <Baram> gnea I shouldn't be, but running out of ideas so looking for something that would conflict with network-manager
[09:53] <Gnea> Baram: why?
[09:53] <Baram> Gnea: I thought everything in there should be commented out or blank
[09:53] <Baram> Gnea: Can only get (unstable) connection via dhclient eth0, network-manager (wired) no longer functions.  9.10 64b, recently updated with kernel 2.6.32-24 (from ubuntu repos)
[09:54] <Gnea> Baram: you'll need to delete the lines, not comment them
[09:54] <Gnea> Baram: and I recommend you install wicd
[09:54] <Gnea> !info wicd
[09:54] <Baram> Gnea: Odd, I didn't put them in there in the first place
[09:54] <Baram> Gnea wicd requires removing network-manager, doesn't it?
[09:54] <Gnea> Baram: this is my interfaces file:
[09:54] <Gnea> auto lo
[09:54] <Gnea> iface lo inet loopback
[09:55] <Gnea> and a blank line below the last one
[09:55] <Baram> ok, deleted them, let me restart networking and see what happens... brb
[09:55] <Gnea> that's all there needs to be
[09:55] <Gnea> Baram: of course it does
[09:55] <Gnea> wicd is a drop-in replacement for NM
[09:55] <smn_> what do you guys use as torrent program?
[09:56] <Baram> Gnea: That didn't do it...
[09:56] <Baram> Gnea I'll try wicd... odd that I've never had an issue with network-manager
[09:56] <bazhang> !torrent | smn_
[09:57] <sacarlson> Baram: what do you want static or just a simple dhcp client?  I had wicd working for a bit on wifi but later I had problems with it when I was trying to go static.
[09:57] <pptfu> # Appears as HUGH
[09:57] <Baram> sacarlson: I use dhcp, wired
[09:57] <Baram> sacarlson: just suddenly started having problems
[09:57] <bazhang> pptfu, what?
[09:58] <sacarlson> Baram: ya I had similar problems so I disabled network-manager and now I'm at least stable.  maybe just make a script to start.
[09:59] <sacarlson> Baram: or just use it to try to verify that your problem is caused by network-manager
[10:00] <Baram> hmm...
[10:02] <Baram> sacarlson: 99% sure it's network-manager, seeing as dhclient gets me online
[10:02] <sacarlson> Baram: sudo service network-manager stop; sudo dhclient eth0  might be something to try.
[10:02] <Baram> Gnea: Ok... installed wicd
[10:02] <Gnea> Baram: ok, should be able to access it from the top panel bar, or like this: wicd-client -n
[10:02] <Baram> sacarlson: Already did that, which is how I'm online, was trying to figure out how to fix network-manager
[10:03] <perlsyntax> How do i get my sound back on the computer
[10:03] <Baram> Gnea: I have it open and it seems to work... now how do I get it to show a tray icon?
[10:03] <perlsyntax> i mean the sound button
[10:03] <Gnea> it should be there already
[10:03] <Gnea> if not, try logging out/logging in
[10:03] <sacarlson> Baram: well gnea's idea might be the next move with wicd.  I only had luck with wifi with that.
[10:03] <Baram> Gnea: Will do, brb
[10:04] <ramnepal> what is the animation software in ubuntu(like flash)?
[10:04] <Gnea> sacarlson, Baram: I've had great success with wired and wifi with wicd. the thing that sucks is that wicd is in Ubuntu is still 1.x, while the 2.0 is in development mode right now, 2.0 is going to have a lot more functionality and features. Looking forward to its release.
[10:05] <Baram> Gnea: That seems to have worked
[10:05] <Gnea> awesome
[10:05] <Gnea> yeah, I had to give it a kick-over on my netbook when I went wicd on there, it's worked just fine ever since
[10:05] <Baram> Gnea: Thanks
[10:05] <Gnea> Baram: cheers
[10:05] <Gnea> Baram: I've had great success with wired and wifi with wicd. the thing that sucks is that wicd is in Ubuntu is still 1.x, while the 2.0 is in development mode right now, 2.0 is going to have a lot more functionality and features. Looking forward to its release.
[10:06] <rnsahoo> hi
[10:07] <mne> Hi. After an upgrade to ubuntu lucid suspend-to-ram no longer works. Can you help ?
[10:07] <sacarlson> gnea: I think my problem is I try to manualy setup things in scripts or at the command line and network-manger conflics with those actions.
[10:07] <Galeon> Hi. I need help: The resolution of my screen is now 800x600 when I installed nvidia drivers manually (71.24.x).
[10:07] <wele> hello, am try to play avi file vedio,any one can help?
[10:08] <ramnepal> is there FLASH for UBUNTU?
[10:08] <ramnepal> wele: use video player
[10:08] <vigge_sWe> I guess it sin't possible to remove these password dialogs and requirements? It's annoying that I have to type my password to login to start empathy, login to connect to the internet, login twice to change proxy settings etc
[10:08] <wele> dosent work
[10:08] <rnsahoo> hello can anyone tell me that how can I able to convert .flv to .3gp video files
[10:08] <sacarlson> mne: do you have a big enuf swap partition for the ram that you have.  I never us suspend mode so I'm not sure
[10:08] <kleo> please can you help me
[10:08] <bazhang> !flash > ramnepal
[10:08] <vigge_sWe> I'm not retarded to run everything if that's why it's there
[10:08] <Gnea> sacarlson: yeah, I got used to that with slackware and debian back in the day.... took awhile to get used to the way some of these programs that Ubuntu utilizes works, but when they work, they work well and I can just forget about them and get some real work done
[10:09] <wele> avi file cant play need packeg
[10:09] <kleo> i somehow deleted the bottom panel and i dont know how to get it back
[10:09] <bazhang> !resetpanels | kleo
[10:09] <ramnepal> bazhang: Animation software for UBUNTU
[10:09] <bazhang> ramnepal, does not exist
[10:09] <perlsyntax> i got a creative CA0110-1BG i still have no sound and it off mute
[10:09] <Galeon> xchat crashes when I'm in #ubuntu
[10:09] <Gnea> ramnepal: blender
[10:09] <perlsyntax> any idea?
[10:09] <Gnea> !info blender
[10:09] <bazhang> ramnepal, if you mean like shockwave flash
[10:09] <ramnepal> bazhang: so I need windows again?
[10:10] <kleo> thank you so much
[10:10] <perlsyntax> ?
[10:10] <ramnepal> Gnea: Blender is animator??
[10:10] <Galeon> Hi. I need help: The resolution of my screen is now 800x600 when I installed nvidia drivers manually (71.24.x).
[10:10] <kleo> man i love how you all are glad to help
[10:10] <sacarlson> Gnea: I'm sure wicd would be the way to go on my laptop with wifi and moving from one net to anouther, but my desktop is just fixed static, no real need for a network manager.
[10:10] <Gnea> ramnepal: it's a 3D modeller, it will output some animation, you might be able to get it to convert to flash using avidemux or just upload it to youtube
[10:11] <ramnepal> Ok
[10:11] <mne> sacarlson, yes I have. But I'm not using hibernate (which writes all ram to the swap partition), but instead I'm using suspend-to-ram which just keeps ram powered up so that its contents are not lost. This worked very well on ubuntu jaunty and indeed it still works if I enter suspend as root by calling "pm-suspend". Yet it *no longer* works from gnome
[10:11] <wele> is there any packeg can make avi file work?
[10:11] <Gnea> ramnepal: it's a very technical program though, and requires that you follow tutorials in order to get to know how to use it
[10:11] <bazhang> wele, installed ubuntu-restricted-extras yet?
[10:11] <perlsyntax> anyone?
[10:11] <perlsyntax> ?
[10:11] <bazhang> !players | wele
[10:12] <sacarlson> mne: maybe theres a box in user group you have to check to use it as a user.
[10:12] <wele> bazhang: no
[10:12] <ramnepal> wele: get a video converter
[10:12] <bazhang> wele, then install them
[10:13] <bazhang> ramnepal, not needed
[10:13] <Gnea> sacarlson: I moved recently and now everything is straight-up wifi, so I had to buy a usb adapter for my desktop. Ubuntu doesn't even have the driver, so I had to find the source off of ralink's site, hack it to accept the USB id, compile and install it, and it works like a charm now. Full 802.11n
[10:13] <wele> bazhang: ok
[10:13] <perlsyntax> i give up
[10:13] <ramnepal> wele: get plugins for the video player
[10:13] <sirius> hi every one,who can tell me how to update KDE3.5 to KDE 4.5
[10:13] <Galeon> Hi. I need help: The resolution of my screen is now 800x600 when I installed nvidia drivers manually (71.24.x).
[10:13] <bazhang> ramnepal, that package has that.
[10:13] <ramnepal> bazhang: ok
[10:13] <DoubleString> hey all
[10:13] <ramnepal> doublestring: hey
[10:14] <wele> is there any diffrent btween kubuntu and ubuntu?
[10:14] <mne> sacarlson, I don't think so. On ubuntu suspend to ram works by sending a message to the dbus. And the UPower deamon is supposed to suspend the machine. It's all explained on the ubunu wiki here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingGNOMEPowerManager
[10:14] <DoubleString> hey ramnepal
[10:14] <ramnepal> doublestring: i play 7 string
[10:14] <DoubleString> wele, kde and gnome
[10:14] <DoubleString> ramnepal, nice, been a while since I last saw one ;)
[10:15] <sirius> add-apt-repository: command not found//i get a problem ,how to solve?
[10:15] <mne> sacarlson, I already tried to debug the situation by the tips given in the wiki. Yet so far no errors show up in the logs but the machine still doesn't go down
[10:15] <bazhang> wele, just some of the applications and the DE, same software repositories though
[10:15] <wele> DoubleString: what do u mean bt that?
[10:15] <sacarlson> Gnea: I have a ralink wifi rt73 chip wifi,  I used to have to compile each time I changed kernel but now works out of the box in U10.04
[10:15] <DoubleString> different desktop environments
[10:15] <Gnea> bazhang: ? 7 string is a type of guitar, you know...
[10:15] <DoubleString> so different programs are made for them
[10:16] <Gnea> wele: avidemux
[10:16] <DoubleString> why did bazhang ban ramnepal?
[10:16] <bazhang> wele, no need for a video converter. just install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[10:16] <wele> bazhang: ok ill try and give u a answer
[10:17] <Gnea> sacarlson: this linksys AE1000 is pretty nice once it works... the driver's got a bunch of options that I haven't tried yet (like switching between 2.4ghz and 5ghz)
[10:17] <sacarlson> mne: try check every user group priv in System>administration>User groups>Advanced settings>User privliges>   check every one of them for the user your play with.
[10:17] <wele> bazhang: after install need restart?
[10:17] <DoubleString> sirius, did you write sudo before it?
[10:17] <bazhang> wele, no.
[10:17] <sacarlson> mne: if that doesn't work then I guess you will have to make a new group
[10:18] <Gnea> I even tried to make a .deb of the driver for Ubuntu, but so far it only makes a .deb of the copyright and changelog files, so something isn't right
[10:18] <wele> bazhang: woha its work, tanks alot
[10:18] <bazhang> wele, welcome
[10:18] <sacarlson> Gnea: ya the new ralink driver has cool injections and other cool monitoring mods
[10:18] <wele> bazhang: one more thing of u dont main
[10:18] <mne> sacarlson, hmm, I'll try it
[10:18] <bazhang> wele, ask
[10:19] <wele> bazhang: every restart i got icon change postion is there any way to fix it or need to re install ubuntu
[10:19] <bazhang> wele, icon for what
[10:19] <arvind_khadri> Hi I needed help with nagios, when I run the check_nt script, its not able to connect to the other machine
[10:19] <Gnea> sacarlson: I've been so busy that I've just had time to get it up and running. have had a separate issue with it losing ipv6 connectivity, think I zeroed in on the problem and figured out what to do to fix it. got my fingers crossed right now.
[10:20] <wele> bluetooth,wireless,language bar
[10:20] <bazhang> wele, on the desktop? on the top panel? where?
[10:20] <wele> top panel
[10:20] <bazhang> wele, right click lock to panel?
[10:20] <pie_time> can anyone tell me how to mount a drive that wasn't properly unmounted?
[10:20] <wele> i already did
[10:21] <Gnea> pie_time: you can't mount what's already mounted
[10:21] <wele> and they stuck now on the middle
[10:21] <wele> how i make them back to right side
[10:21] <mne> sacarlson, the situation has not changed, the machine still doesn't go to sleep
[10:21] <sacarlson> Gnea: my ISP doesn't support ipv6,  does yours?  when I played with ipv6 it seemed slow since it forced going through a tunel to another slow service.
[10:21] <bazhang> wele, then unlock and put where you want, then relock
[10:21] <pie_time> Gnea, its mounted on another system that wont boot
[10:21] <wele> cant move them
[10:21] <Gnea> sacarlson: my school does, yes. when I use wicd, I get an ipv4 and ipv6 address assignments
[10:22] <muneeb> if I use apt-get source then wil I get latest source? Or should I use svn?
[10:22] <Gnea> pie_time: and it's refusing to umount?
[10:22] <wele> for bluetooth and wireless there is no move option
[10:22] <pie_time> Gnea, what's umount?
[10:22] <sacarlson> gnea: I created a total ipv6 local network that just translated all address to ipv4 that worked for ubuntu but I couldn't get window 7 to support it. so my customers didn't like it.
[10:22] <Gnea> pie_time: the commandline program to unmount something
[10:23] <Gnea> sacarlson: cisco wifi routers ftw
[10:23] <wele> ist kind of bug?
[10:23] <pie_time> Gnea, i dont know the name of the device to umount it, but i can see it in nautilus.
[10:23] <muneeb> which is better apt-get source or svn?
[10:23] <sacarlson> gnea: ftw?
[10:23] <DoubleString> wele
[10:23] <wele> yes
[10:23] <DoubleString> it's the indication app
[10:23] <Gnea> sacarlson: for the win
[10:23] <DoubleString> so it's connected
[10:23] <DoubleString> w/ clock
[10:24] <Gnea> pie_time: can you open a terminal?
[10:24] <pie_time> Gnea, yes
[10:24]  * ph_ help please i am writting a bash script but the cd command doesnt changethe dir 
[10:24] <Gnea> pie_time: okay, now type this:  df -Th
[10:24] <sacarlson> gnea: windows it seems forces the users to go through a tunnel instead of going direct.  I could figure it out and gave up on it.
[10:24] <DoubleString> ph_, can you paste the line where you write the cd command?
[10:24] <Gnea> ph_: can you pastebin the script?
[10:24] <Gnea> !pastebin
[10:25] <wele> DoubleString: how i fix that then
[10:25] <DoubleString> why do you need to fix it?
[10:25] <pie_time> Gnea, it's not listed there
[10:25] <DoubleString> they're near each other
[10:25] <Gnea> pie_time: then it's not even mounted
[10:25] <sacarlson> gnea: I also had problems getting windows to not have an ipv4 as a dns server.  it windows needs dual stack ipv4 and ipv6.  I wanted total ipv6.
[10:25] <DoubleString> or do they not functionate?
[10:25] <wele> DoubleString: every restart the icon postion change place
[10:25] <wele> now they are not
[10:26] <pie_time> Gnea, like i mentioned, it never unmounted from the previous system so it will not mount in this system
[10:26] <DoubleString> I don't know, this might be a bug
[10:26] <Gnea> sacarlson: I'm not sure that windows is ready to let go of ipv4
[10:26] <helkaluin> Hi all. Is there a way of moving/resizing btrfs partitions with parted-related tools? Or do I need to dump the entire partition with btrfs-image and then restore?
[10:26] <wele> bluetooth and wireless and language bar alone in meddile
[10:26] <Gnea> pie_time: oh, I didn't understand that. I thought you were typing it on that system.
[10:27] <ph_> #!/bin/bash
[10:27] <ph_> echo   ""
[10:27] <ph_> echo '[10:27] <ph_> echo     ' moving to scripting directory'
[10:27] <ph_> echo            'By Ph0n7r1c'
[10:27] <FloodBot3> ph_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:27] <ph_> echo      'Version : 0.0.0.1 (Beta)'
[10:27] <sacarlson> gnea: not as far as I know.  but I read that ipv4 address numbers would run out by 2012 so I thought I would prepare now.
[10:27] <lunavorax> Hello everyone !
[10:27] <eltew> hey lunavorax
[10:27] <wele> bazhang: are u there?
[10:27] <bazhang> wele, yes
[10:27] <pie_time> Gnea, let me post my original problem for you.
[10:27] <ph_> and also tred sourceing it but no luck
[10:27] <Gnea> pie_time: okay
[10:27] <sacarlson> gnea: so linux is ahead of windows on the ipv6 front or at least it better documented.
[10:27] <lunavorax> My mouse is broken, so i was wondering if there was a was to control the mouse with the keyboard ?
[10:28] <wele> bazhang: so what can i do for fix it
[10:28] <muneeb> can any body help me?
[10:28] <DoubleString> ph_, could you use pastebin/
[10:28] <pie_time> I just made many long over due ubuntu updates and restarted my system. I have a Full Disk Encryption LUKS encrypted disk that wouldn't boot upon restart and instead brought me to some basic install/rescue screen. There were 2 other drives, one flash usb and one large external usb drive, attached to the computer when I restarted it that also wouldn't mount when I tried to plug them into another ubuntu system. The error message they gave wh
[10:28] <pie_time> en my system tryed to auto mount them was, eg, "Unable to mount 2.0 GB Filesystem", "Unauthorized". Could anyone please help save my system?
[10:28] <eltew> lunavorax, of course there is..
[10:28] <lunavorax> eltew, I don't know it yet,  that's why I'm here :D
[10:28] <ph_> DoubleString, can we do a private chat
[10:28] <ph_> please
[10:28] <DoubleString> sure
[10:29] <Gnea> sacarlson: ipv4 and ipv6 were developed using unix/linux, initially. microsoft came along and just interpretted the RFC's and available source code. Apple didn't have to do a thing, since BSD took care of it all for them.
[10:29] <eltew> lunavorax, what version are you using?
[10:29] <lunavorax> eltew, 10.04
[10:30] <sacarlson> pie_time told you guys don't bother with FDE just encrypt one users /home/account.  you guys create problems for yourself.
[10:30] <cast> encrypting just /home/account is not enough.
[10:30] <FastReading> What's more realiable: free or htop?
[10:31] <Gnea> FastReading: free
[10:31] <cast> neither should be wrong
[10:31] <FullFlannelJacke> sacarlson: There's nothing wrong with FDE.
[10:31] <pie_time> Gnea, are you able to help?
[10:31] <FastReading> Gnea: thanks, I had read the opposite
[10:31] <eltew> lunavorax, do the following: System → Preferences → Keyboard
[10:31] <eltew> then select the Mouse Keys tab
[10:31] <eltew> that will allow you to use your mouse with your keyboard.
[10:31] <sacarlson> FullFlannelJacke: well fix pie_time problem then if nothing is wrong with it.
[10:32] <eltew> lunavorax, http://www.giannistsakiris.com/index.php/2008/05/10/ubuntu-arrow-keys-make-mouse-pointer-to-move-around/
[10:32] <Kwpolska> lunavorax: you can also try ctrl+shift+numlock
[10:32] <Kwpolska> faster way to enable/disable this
[10:32] <Kwpolska> 5 is left mouse button, shift or ctrl makes it right
[10:32] <lunavorax> -o- that was that simple, sorry i didn't find it without your help eltew
[10:32] <sacarlson> pie_time you can use tripwire if your paranoid about someone corupting your system files
[10:33] <lunavorax> Thanks for the shortcut Kwpolska, very handy
[10:33] <eltew> lunavorax, no problem.  i didnt even know about the shortcut.
[10:33] <gogeta> sacarlson: most linux have a secure delete bilt in called shred
[10:34] <Gnea> pie_time: are you saying that the flash drive and other external hard drive were also formatted with encryption?
[10:34] <pie_time> Gnea, no
[10:34] <pie_time> Gnea, im saying they also had mount problems
[10:34] <sacarlson> gogeta: so what is pie_time or me going to do with this secure bit?
[10:34] <Gnea> pie_time: so unplug them from the bricked system, and plug them into a system you know works correctly.
[10:35] <pie_time> Gnea, i have one of the drives plugged into my working system right now
[10:35] <pie_time> and it says "Unauthorized"
[10:35] <Gnea> pie_time: flash or hdd?
[10:35] <FastReading> sacarlson: shred's usage is somewhat a hassle, you can install secure-delete
[10:35] <pie_time> flash
[10:35] <gogeta> sacarlson: i bet the program you said is just a frontend for shred
[10:35] <Gnea> pie_time: okay, unplug it.
[10:35] <pie_time> ok
[10:35] <Gnea> now plug it in
[10:35] <pie_time> yeah same message
[10:35] <Gnea> do you get an icon on the desktop?
[10:35] <pie_time> no
[10:36] <Gnea> hrm
[10:36] <sacarlson> gogeta no tripwire is a detection program that auto checks for md5sum changes in system files to make sure no one or thing has changed any programs or config files in you system.
[10:36] <Gnea> pie_time: could you please pastebin the full output of the dmesg command?  you can use a program called pastebinit (just sudo apt-get install pastebinit && dmesg | pastebinit) to make the process seamless.
[10:36] <DexterLB> hello
[10:36] <DexterLB> I added a script of mine to the nautilus open with menu of images. Now opening them with my script from nautilus works
[10:36] <DexterLB> but for some reason it won't go into f-spot's open with menu, how do I add apps to that?
[10:37] <gogeta> sacarlson: ah
[10:37] <sacarlson> gogeta: the data it uses to check with is fully encrypted to make sure no one can change it
[10:38] <pie_time> Gnea, is there another way?
[10:38] <SAngeli> Hi, I wish to migrate from having ubunto installed on a local PC to a VM on VMware ESXi. What should I install: ubuntu or ubunto server? Also, from my Windows 7 PC when I wish to connect to this VM what do I have to use to be able to see my ubuntu disto in GUI as if I would be in front of my ubuntu PC?
[10:38] <Hamled> I'm currently attempting to upgrade my server distro install from 9.04 to 9.10 using update manager, and the installation appears to have stalled. This is the most recent output: http://pastebin.com/UG5vKiY4 Would it be safe to kill the process and restart it? How can I see more information about what's going on? From ps it appears to be a python script
[10:38] <pie_time> Gnea, can we take this to pm please
[10:38] <gogeta> sacarlson: i think i cought the party abought destrying files and that was all thought he was asking for a secure delete
[10:39] <cast> sacarlson: encryption doesn't provided protection against modification ;)
[10:39] <cast> sacarlson: you'll probably find it's signed
[10:39] <kaushik> hi all where can i find the code for the 'ls' command
[10:39] <sacarlson> cast: no in this case it only adds detection
[10:40] <Gnea> pie_time: no, pm won't work, dmesg is too large.
[10:40] <pie_time> Gnea, thats ok
[10:40] <cast> sacarlson: encryption doesn't provide that
[10:40] <gogeta> kaushik: in the ekrnel source
[10:40] <gogeta> kernel
[10:40] <Gnea> !pastebinit
[10:40] <pie_time> Gnea, i would like to take our conversation to pm, not the pastebin
[10:40] <gogeta> kaushik: its a intregrated command
[10:40] <gcleric> SAngeli, Check out - http://www.vladan.fr/how-to-p2v-linux-into-vmware-esx-server/
[10:40] <psycho_oreos> !info aircrack-ng
[10:40] <Gnea> pie_time: okay, go for it
[10:40] <sacarlson> cast: no tripwire does the detection trip wire uses encryption to make sure the detection isn't corupted.
[10:41] <cast> sacarlson: presumably you mean the digest database, when you say 'the detection isn't corrupted'
[10:41] <HeTaL> Dooes anyone know how to force fans to stay on? Right now they only come on for 2-3 seconds, and then shut off, and then back on, then back off.
[10:42] <sacarlson> cast: http://www.tripwire.com/  that is correct the digest is encyrpted
[10:42] <gogeta> kaushik: its in the coreutls
[10:42] <gogeta> kaushik: so get that source ls is there
[10:43] <cast> sacarlson: which provides no assurance of integrity
[10:43] <sacarlson> if I was a total paranoid or a bank that's the system I would use instead of a fully encrypted disk.
[10:43] <SAngeli> gcleric, actually I want to start from scratch with install. Mostly I need to understand two concepts otherwhise I will not be able to plan. 1) once I installed ubunto on my server how do I access it from my window PC? What software will I use to use it?
[10:44] <cast> sacarlson: instead? they're two very different things, neither replaces the other
[10:44] <psycho_oreos> any of you guys played with unfs3? I'm trying to get my machines to mount nfs share but no matter how I edit /etc/hosts.{allow,deny} along with restarting networking it fails to mount because of denied permission
[10:44] <gogeta> SAngeli: thers lots of ways ftp ssh vnc
[10:44] <gogeta> SAngeli: samba nfs etc etc
[10:45] <cast> psycho_oreos: did you mean unfs3?
[10:45] <psycho_oreos> cast, yes
[10:45] <sometux> I wonder why my dell notebook touchpad isn't as responsive as in Windows, and if there a way to optimize it in ubuntu?
[10:46] <gogeta> SAngeli: if you whant command lince acess putty for windows if you whant gui acees tightvnc or real vnc
[10:46] <cast> psycho_oreos: ahh. dunno. i've only used nfs [in kernel space]
[10:46] <goldfish> Bonjour
[10:46] <psycho_oreos> cast, in theory it shouldn't be any different shouldn't it? I mean apart from the way both of which are called, I think its an issue with portmapper, I've got it working with sshd but just not with unfs3
[10:46] <SAngeli> gogeta, I did not properly explain. Here anothe way: what is the exact equivalent of what I do when I install ubuntu on a PC, I turn it on and have my ubuntu running with GNOME GUI interface and do all my stuff through GUI not command line?
[10:46] <bazhang> !fr | goldfish
[10:47] <goldfish> ok
[10:47] <qwd> I installed Ubuntu with a usb memory and grub was installed on the usb memory, not the hard drive, so now I need to have the usb drive plugged in in order to start the laptop. How do I put grub on the hard drive? I'm guessing it should be in the unencrypted /boot partition (doing full disk encryption here)?
[10:47] <gogeta> SAngeli: then you will whant a vnc client for windows to acess the gui
[10:47] <gogeta> SAngeli: i listed 2
[10:47] <SAngeli> gogeta, when I installed ubuntu (which I do not know if server or desktop version) what do I need to acchieve the same things from my Windows PC?
[10:47] <sacarlson> cast: well with my very limited ability and skills It would be much easier for me to maintain a secure system with tripwire system combined with an encrypted /home/useraccount over a fully encrypted disk method.
[10:47] <yfk> I am able to compile my kernel with nvidia graphic driver ver 173 but not 180 and up. Why is that?
[10:47] <SAngeli> gogeta, can I use RDP, from windows?
[10:48] <cast> sacarlson: what are you protecting about?
[10:48] <cast> sacarlson: what are you protecting against?
[10:48] <gogeta> SAngeli: vnc is the same as rdp
[10:48] <cast> sacarlson: first one was a typo :(
[10:48] <sacarlson> cast: that's another good point nothing.
[10:48] <oliver_> I have big problems right now, I buy a nvidia 240gts yesterday and had now put it in the computer and it's works great before i installed the propitary drivers. when i had compiz on and move a windows it's lagg little and when i tried to start the computer before it give me a error that the drives had problems and i need to reboot, now it's works but the window problems is still her, when i buy a nvidia card i think it would better then m
[10:48] <oliver_> y ati but i had wrong, heeeeeelp
[10:48] <gcleric> SAngel, when you install Ubuntu enable VNC and install a VNC client on your... windowz box... =)
[10:49] <gogeta> ye i said that
[10:49] <Hamled> I'm currently attempting to upgrade my server distro install from 9.04 to 9.10 using update manager, and the installation appears to have stalled. This is the most recent output: http://pastebin.com/UG5vKiY4 Would it be safe to kill the process and restart it? How can I see more information about what's going on? From ps it appears to be a python script
[10:49] <SAngeli> gogeta, ok. Great. Now, is it better to install the server version of ubuntu or just the standard ubunto desktop edition?
[10:49] <Newa> SAngeli: or applications / internet / remote desktop viewer
[10:49] <cast> sacarlson: the problem with encrypting just /home/user is that user's data will leak into /tmp and /var [/var/tmp, also updatedb and many other things],
[10:49] <gogeta> SAngeli: being you whant the gui desktop
[10:49] <djo__> dreaman
[10:49] <gcleric> gogeta, but did you say windowz"
[10:50] <Dreaman> djo__ кажи
[10:50] <cast> sacarlson: /etc often also contains confidential information, like VPN passwords, the users password hashes, passwords in plaintext for the likes of ppp
[10:50] <Dreaman> :)
[10:50] <bazhang> !ru | Dreaman
[10:50] <djo__> :)
[10:50] <Dreaman> bazhang bulgarian :)
[10:50] <djo__> ae 4eki 4e nemoa da opraq taq programa
[10:50] <djo__> pak gledam v drugiq 4at v saita si horutuate za neq
[10:50] <SAngeli> gogeta, I did not get your answer. Desktop or Server edition?
[10:50] <sacarlson> cast: I can't argue that those are all valid weaknesses
[10:50] <bazhang> !bg | djo__  Dreaman
[10:51] <gogeta> SAngeli: ubuntu desktop
[10:51] <SAngeli> thanks.
[10:51] <djo__> ooo ok ty :)
[10:54] <obscure^> .quit
[10:54] <gogeta> we should start suggesting google translate lol
[10:55] <sometux> How I can make gnome terminal remember its last position and size when i open it?
[10:55] <mne> sacarlson, I think I found out why it isn't working: The system doesn't go down to sleep with pm-suspend either. I had a look at /var/log/pm-suspend.log and found out that pm-suspend tries to call a script that no longer exists: "/usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d/95ups-monitor suspend suspend:invoke-rc.d: unknown initscript, /etc/init.d/ups-monitor not found." So why does it try to call a script that no longer exsts anywhere ?
[10:56] <sacarlson> mne: I thought you said it worked in root.
[10:57]  * france1159 says hello to everyone
[10:57] <sacarlson> mne: ups-monitor is for uninteruptable powersupply monitor why do you need that for suspend?
[10:57] <mne> sacarlson, yes it did yesterday ;) But then I removed ups-monitor and now it still tries to call the init script that is no longer there
[10:57] <sometux> Is there a way to make gnome terminal remember it's last size and position?
[10:58] <sacarlson> mne: so what do you need a dummy ups-monitor script just to make it run?
[10:58] <mne> sacarlson, the script existed in /etc/pm/sleep.d as my old UPS used the serial port for communication which did not work correctly after waking up from suspend. The script solved the problem by restarting the ups-monitor
[10:59] <erUSUL> sacarlson: pass the --geometry option ?
[10:59] <sacarlson> erUSUL: I'm not sure I know what a --geometry option is?
[10:59] <mne> sacarlson, I suppose that would work. But I'm still puzzled why pm-suspend tries to call a script that no longer exists. I also did a 'grep -Rin "ups-monitor" /etc/*" but found nothing
[11:00] <qwd> sometux: let me know if you find out how
[11:00] <sometux> qwd, are you kidding?
[11:00] <erUSUL> sacarlson: --geometry 300x150+0+0  ( the +0 +0 ptions are the ones that place the window they start counting from the up left corner )
[11:00] <qwd> sometux: why would I be kidding?
[11:01] <sacarlson> erUSUL: oh you talking to sometux: --geometry ?
[11:01] <cast> sometux: e16 does that, i'd have thought any decent window manager could ;)
[11:01] <GrimReaper> hello everyone
[11:01] <sometux> cast, I guess you face the same problem, right?
[11:01] <Hamled> I'm currently attempting to upgrade my server distro install from 9.04 to 9.10 using update-manager, and the installation appears to have stalled. This is the most recent output: http://pastebin.com/UG5vKiY4 Would it be safe to kill the process and restart it? How can I see more information about what's going on? From ps it appears to be a python script.
[11:01] <sappel> question: I'm configuring my /etc/network/interfaces via cmd the first time, eth0 is properly configured from the install, now I added a second adapter. is "auto eth1" + address line + netmask enough? or do I have to set a gw?
[11:02] <erUSUL> sacarlson: ooops sorry
[11:02] <cast> sometux: nah, i use e16, i just right click and go remember position+size
[11:02] <erUSUL> sometux: --geometry 300x150+0+0  ( the +0 +0 ptions are the ones that place the window they start counting from the up left corner )
[11:02] <sacarlson> sometux: did you get that what erUSUL sent that's what you want.
[11:02] <sometux> cast, even icewm that I used in the past did
[11:02] <cast> sappel: depends on your network setup, if its just one switch you won't need the gateway entry
[11:03] <cast> sappel: if it's going to be routing to say the internet you will though
[11:03] <sappel> then it should be fine, thanks
[11:03] <sappel> no, the second is a intranet lan, the eth0 is the internet (with gw set)
[11:03] <cast> sappel: if you don't have the gateway entry it just means you can't escape your subnet
[11:03] <GrimReaper> what do I need to compile and install an app from the source files?
[11:03] <sometux> erUSUL, I need to make it remember the last size and position
[11:03] <cast> GrimReaper: stow, build-essentials, presuming it's a typical app
[11:04] <GrimReaper> it s called mdk3
[11:04] <elitexray> would a KDE anti virus scanner work on Gnome?
[11:04] <qwd> elitexray: yes
[11:05] <madfox> elitexray:potentially, but good luck
[11:05] <erUSUL> sometux: then you will have to find if your window manager supports that
[11:05] <qwd> madfox: why would there be any problem with that?!
[11:05] <erUSUL> !compile | GrimReaper
[11:05] <Akaruz> guys anyone can tell me support channel of wine?
[11:05] <qwd> Akaruz: #winehq
[11:05] <erUSUL> Akaruz: #winehq
[11:05] <Akaruz> thanks
[11:05] <Swistaczek> How can I run screen thats give me option of later detaching screen, I also would like to name my screen
[11:05] <madfox> qwd: because it may have dependencies on libraries only native to KDE
[11:06] <sacarlson> elitexray: you mean on ubuntu yes,  ubuntu can run both gnome and kde at the same time
[11:06] <GrimReaper> thank you, I ll take a look! I already did but there is none available
[11:06] <qwd> madfox: so? that's what we have apt for, he doesn't need to care about dependencies.
[11:06] <elitexray> is it recommended to install anti virus on ubuntu?
[11:06] <qwd> elitexray: probably not.
[11:06] <elitexray> how come?
[11:07] <sacarlson> elitexray: it's not needed unless you serve files to window systems.
[11:07] <madfox> qwd: doesn't always mean it will work fine and dandy.
[11:07] <oliver_> my nvidia card laggs with compiz, heeeelp
[11:07] <erUSUL> Hamled: maybe in #ubuntu-server you get more help... apparmor is not my forte
[11:07] <cilli_p> hi all!
[11:07] <sometux> erUSUL, gnome, metacity
[11:07] <cast> elitexray: heh, hell no.
[11:07] <madfox> elitexray: cause if you are in a circumstance where a virus can run, you have bigger problems
[11:07] <ortsvorsteher> 5c5cfa33
[11:07] <elitexray> So am I secure without anti virus?
[11:07] <madfox> elitexray: linux pretty much doesnt have viruses :)
[11:07] <madfox> elitexray: Yes and no
[11:08] <madfox> elitexray: security is a much bigger field then just viruses
[11:08] <psycho_oreos> cast, I've dropped unfs3 in favour of nfs-kernel-server and with very little configuration I got it working :) thanks.. it was a good riddance of stupid unfs3
[11:08] <madfox> elitexray: but day to day stuff? should be fine
[11:08] <cast> psycho_oreos: :) it is rather easy
[11:09] <elitexray> Should I be worried about hackers?
[11:09] <madfox> elitexray: depends
[11:09] <cast> elitexray: who are you
[11:09] <psycho_oreos> cast, heck, I was at my wits trying to get unfs3 to work with a virtualised environment, no more now
[11:09] <elitexray> im a noob
[11:09] <well_laid_lawn> the only time I would worry about a virus is if I shared files with windows comps
[11:09] <erUSUL> !devilspie
[11:09] <madfox> elitexray: are you running just a desktop, a networks, or wha?
[11:10] <erUSUL> sometux: ^
[11:10] <cast> elitexray: so you're not elite?!
[11:10] <elitexray> I'm just running ubuntu on my laptop for casual use
[11:10] <sacarlson> elitexray: you can still be easily fooled by an email that diverts you to a website that you think is your bank or other service.
[11:10] <cast> psycho_oreos: i think it's always bene the case that the kernel implementation has been better
[11:10] <madfox> elitexray: if you are using ubuntu just for your own daily use then you are PROBABLY fine
[11:10] <madfox> elitexray: though not safe ;) few people are
[11:11] <Fudge> anyone know how to tell links you want to type ito an edit field?
[11:11] <madfox> elitexray: but I wouldn't worry about it for you, unless you become interested in the field
[11:11] <cilli_p> How to save the size of columns (right-left) of Nautilus on Ubuntu 10.04 (updated) ? I mean the "Name" column is  very small but "Type" column is very big. But the "Name" column is important than "Type". I always make the "type" column smaller but after i re-open Nautilus the size options are reseting :( . Can someone please help me ?
[11:11] <sometux> erUSUL, cast, anyway, thanks!
[11:11] <zatan> a
[11:12] <Rosbuntu> display get black with vertical white lighting bars ! only way to be back in mint is restarting
[11:12] <Rosbuntu> whats the solution
[11:12] <kaushik> gogeta, can you please tell me the exact path :( i dint get it
[11:12] <hixo> Ubuntu keeps switching to VGA output as soon as I plug the cable in, which is a nice feature if it had actually worked. Instead I get two black screens, and need to do a hard reboot in order to restore functionality on the laptop screen. Any ideas on how to disable this automatic "feature"?
[11:13] <jca1981> please somone help me im getting "kernel panic unable to mount root" after an failed upgrade to lucid. i can get into the console via the boot cd what can i do now to fix my system??
[11:13] <sometux> jca1981, chroot <your root mount>
[11:13] <kaushik> hi can anybody help me in building a .deb package
[11:14] <stikonas> does anybody know if crypsetup/LUKS has any IRC channel? I can't mount a partition...
[11:14] <kamol> how to change default port of vsftpd on latest Ubuntu?
[11:14] <jrib> kaushik: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[11:14] <bazhang> !checkinstall > kaushik
[11:14] <cilli_p> How to save the size of columns (right-left) of Nautilus on Ubuntu 10.04 (updated) ? I mean the "Name" column is  very small but "Type" column is very big. But the "Name" column is important than "Type". I always make the "type" column smaller but after i re-open Nautilus the size options are reseting :( . Can someone please help me ?
[11:14] <jca1981> sometux, ok, and then?
[11:15] <sometux> jca1981, resume your upgrade process
[11:15] <kaushik> ubottu,thanks
[11:16] <qwd> Possibly a GRUB problem. I installed Ubuntu with a USB memory and now I need to have the USB memory plugged in during startup or the laptop won't boot. I have GRUB in /boot and the USB memory still has the installation files so GRUB wasn't installed on the USB memory as I first thought. What could the problem be?
[11:16] <elitexray> Is it normal to be using ubuntu only for casual use?
[11:17] <qwd> elitexray: yes
[11:17] <sometux> qwd, reinstall grub to your hard drive (ex, /dev/sda)
[11:17] <elitexray> I mean, i don't do anything big , like programming or engineering stuff
[11:17] <GrimReaper> ^^ ubuntu is for everyone
[11:17] <mne> sacarlson, I got it working ! The thing is that the power management scripts are *not* stored in /etc/pm/sleep.d but instead they are in /usr/lib/pm/sleep.d. In the latter directory I still had a script for ups-monitor which is the reason why pm-suspend tried to call an init script that no longer exists. I removed the script and now it it working ;) thanks dude
[11:17] <qwd> elitexray: still yes
[11:17] <hixo> Ubuntu keeps switching to VGA output as soon as I plug the cable in, which is a nice feature if it had actually worked. Instead I get two black screens, and need to do a hard reboot in order to restore functionality on the laptop screen. Any ideas on how to disable this automatic "feature"?
[11:17] <GrimReaper> even for kids who only want to play games
[11:17] <kamol> how to change default port(21) of vsftpd on latest Ubuntu?
[11:18] <erUSUL> elitexray: well if you've been sdoing engeeniring stuff you will be forced out of linux. the big programs do not work in linux
[11:18] <GrimReaper> can two wifi cards be used with ubuntu?
[11:18] <GrimReaper> (one intern and one usb)
[11:18] <elitexray> I thought engineers use linux
[11:18] <sometux> GrimReaper, why not?
[11:18] <bazhang> !ot | elitexray
[11:18] <GrimReaper> linux is to general
[11:19] <madfox> erUSUL: depends on what
[11:19] <madfox> erUSUL: big ones you refer to
[11:19] <jrib> kamol: is it not in vsftpd.conf?
[11:19] <GrimReaper> @sometux: how can I asign them to apps?
[11:19] <kamol> jrib: cannot find listen_port in vsftpd.conf :(
[11:19] <jrib> kamol: did you try adding it?
[11:20] <kamol> jrib: hahaha, let me try :D
[11:20] <cilli_p> How to save the size of columns (right-left) of Nautilus on Ubuntu 10.04 (updated) ? I mean the "Name" column is  very small but "Type" column is very big. But the "Name" column is important than "Type". I always make the "type" column smaller but after i re-open Nautilus the size options are reseting :( . Can someone please help me ?
[11:20] <erUSUL> madfox: integrated CAD/CAM ? Pro/ENGINEER ?
[11:21] <sometux> GrimReaper, by ip address
[11:22] <kamol> jrib: tq :) it works with just adding this configuration
[11:23] <jca1981> sometux, ok looks like its working :)
[11:23] <cilli_p> How to save the size of columns (right-left) of Nautilus on Ubuntu 10.04 (updated) ? I mean the "Name" column is  very small but "Type" column is very big. But the "Name" column is important than "Type". I always make the "type" column smaller but after i re-open Nautilus the size options are reseting :( . Can someone please help me ?
[11:23] <jca1981> sometux, thanks
[11:24] <sacarlson> GrimReaper: yes you can,  only way I can think of to use one on an aplication would be to use virtualbox but there is probly other ways.
[11:24] <sometux> jca1981, welcome!
[11:24] <jca1981> is there somplace where you can pay for ubuntu support?
[11:24] <jrib> !repeat | cilli_p
[11:24] <madfox> jca1981: why do that o.o?
[11:24] <jca1981> i want to give somthing baack
[11:24] <jrib> !support | jca1981
[11:25] <jrib> jca1981: donate to a linux project you like... or buy some ubuntu merchandise
[11:26] <sacarlson> jca1981:  yes send me some money I could use it.  but I would probly just buy more beer with it.
[11:27] <jca1981> sacarlson,LOL
[11:29] <jca1981> when i boot my system now all i get is a Grub Prompt, what do i type to boot
[11:30] <sometux> jca1981, chroot again to restore your grub
[11:32] <Akaruz> how to add references to my repository ?
[11:32] <Akaruz> where i can find this repository?
[11:32] <jca1981> first i have to set root in grub, right, i only have one disk in my laptop with default server install.
[11:33] <erUSUL> Akaruz: what is "your repository" ? you meant your repository list?
[11:33] <bazhang> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources Akaruz
[11:33] <LycanDragonis> Hi all
[11:33] <erUSUL> Akaruz: System>Preferences>Software Sources
[11:33] <Akaruz> Thanks
[11:34] <erUSUL> Akaruz: sorry --> System>Admin...>Software Sources
[11:34] <Akaruz> ok Thanks :)
[11:35] <sometux> jca1981, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2#Recover%20Grub%202%20via%20LiveCD
[11:35] <thune3> jca1981: for trying to boot from grub> line you can use ls command to see partition options and look at "Express Boot to the Most Recent Kernel" section of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[11:36] <sacarlson> jca1981:  from what I saw above sounds like you might have a corupted root partition.  did you try fschk /dev/sdX  X being the disk you boot from
[11:36] <sacarlson> jca1981: from a live cd boot
[11:37] <neeon> Hi! I'm new to linux and i just installed 10.04 on my acer one. There seems to be a problem with video playback (both in default player and VLC) I get sound but no video..
[11:37] <neeon> I've followed the guide on how to update the gm500 videocard
[11:37] <jca1981> if i type root (hd0,1) grub complaing about "filesystem is unknown" !!
[11:37] <sometux> neeon, why type of media files you'er trying to play?
[11:38] <neeon> both divx and xvid
[11:38] <qwd> sometux: thanks, reinstalling grub solved the problem.
[11:38] <sacarlson> jca1981: you should boot a live boot cd and at least try to mount and view your normal root partition to see if it's ok
[11:38] <sometux> neeon, what*
[11:39] <neeon> sometux: Divx files and xvid (mpeg4 i think??)
[11:39] <sometux> neeon, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[11:39] <evgeny> hi everybody!
[11:40] <muneeb> hi evgeny
[11:40] <brutus> hiiihii
[11:40] <sometux> neeon,  try to install this package first
[11:40] <|ntegra|> I for the life of me can't get the burn effect working, can you help please?
[11:40] <neeon> sometux: Got an error.. it's in norwegian
[11:41] <neeon> Could't find the package ubuntu-restricted-extra
[11:41] <jrib> neeon: add an 's' on the end
[11:41] <sometux> neeon, ubuntu-restricted-extras
[11:42] <neeon> do i need to reboot after?
[11:42] <sometux> neeon, no
[11:42] <neeon> sweet :D
[11:43] <brutus> hii, i would like to know if there is a way to get screenshots throufh compiz, .... (PS: i uninstalled gnome-desktop-utils)
[11:44] <jrib> brutus: probably dozens... is 'scrot' enough for you?
[11:44] <|ntegra|> brutus: can you tell me how to get the burn effects?
[11:44] <brutus> i saw the screenshots plugin
[11:44] <brutus> in compiz
[11:44] <brutus> burn ? :O
[11:44] <brutus> i dont know about that
[11:44] <hsr> Hello
[11:45] <sometux> hsr, \0
[11:45] <hsr> Is it possible to disable plasma widgets for Desktop 1 and let it enabled for desktop 2?
[11:45] <brutus> i had to uninstall gnome-desktop utils because the dictionary thing cant be uninstalled just alone :(
[11:45] <hsr> Is it possible to disable plasma widgets for Desktop 1 and let it enabled for desktop 2 for the same user?
[11:46] <hsr> et tu brute
[11:46] <brutus> ?
[11:46] <oliver> my nvidia 240 gts don't works great with compiz, heeelp
[11:46] <evgeny> русские есть?
[11:47] <hsr> no private messages please
[11:47] <erUSUL> hsr: join #kubuntu
[11:47] <bazhang> !ru | evgeny
[11:47] <sometux> oliver, what driver you use?
[11:48] <oliver> sometux: the propitary, 195.36.24
[11:48] <neeon> sometux: Still no video playback :/
[11:49] <Stormx2> Hi. Firefox won't die. firefox-bin is Uninteruptable and is stuck on request_wait_answer plugin-container is Zombie and stuck on do_exit. What should I do
[11:49] <sometux> neeon, what is you media player?
[11:49] <neeon> the default one and VLC
[11:49] <jrib> Stormx2: reboot?
[11:49] <erUSUL> Stormx2: zombie processes can be killed ( they are already death )
[11:49] <barberan> hi, I am gonna install ubuntu-server. What are the main differences between 10.04 and the server edition ???
[11:50] <Stormx2> ah man. What causes this? it seems to happen the whole time nowadays
[11:50] <jrib> barberan: no X, server kernel
[11:50] <Hamled> Hi, I'm currently upgrading from 9.10 to 10.04 on the server version, and the installation stalled when upgrading libc6. It is checking init scripts that may need to be restarted, which ends up using 'status <script' and each time status is called returns: status: Name "com.ubuntu.Upstart" does not exist
[11:50] <erUSUL> Stormx2: sometimes killing the parent can get rid of them; if it is not possible then reboot
[11:50] <sometux> neeon, try to use mplayer
[11:50] <sometux> neeon, sudo apt-get install smplayer
[11:50] <barberan> jrib: So, after the system starts, all I will see - command promt ?
[11:50] <jrib> barberan: yes
[11:51] <smn_> !torrent
[11:51] <barberan> jrib: ok. and can you imagine, would it understand my usb-wirelses rtl adaptor as 10.04 does ?
[11:52] <jrib> barberan: did it "just work" on 10.04?
[11:52] <neeon> sometux: no video there either :(
[11:52] <austinium> hi everyone, i was wondering how Live CDs allow people to install packages...i've read up on union mounting, but iam not clear on how the read-only live file system and the RAM disk work together when it comes to installing packages into the live file system
[11:52] <barberan> jrib: the 10.04 recognized it automatically, without dancing around my computer
[11:53] <jrib> barberan: should probably "just work" on the server edition, try and see :)
[11:53] <jrib> barberan: you'll still have to setup your connection of course, and you won't have the network manager applet
[11:53] <Akaruz> how to extract an tarball file ?
[11:54] <sometux> neeon, run mplayer from command line and use --verbose switch
[11:54] <jrib> Akaruz: double click or right click -> extract
[11:54] <austinium> tar -zxvf filename.tzr.gz
[11:54] <erUSUL> Akaruz: double click on it
[11:54] <Akaruz> thanks
[11:54]  * jrib waits for "how to compile" question
[11:54] <sometux> neeon, so you can see if the encoding recognized or not
[11:55] <manipulate> or "why can't I run this source.c?"
[11:55] <Akaruz> Please tell me an tutorial link for working with directories.
[11:55] <ikonia> manipulate: it's not a binary
[11:55] <jrib> Akaruz: what is your final goal?/
[11:55] <neeon> got an error while opening smplayer
[11:55] <ikonia> manipulate: it's a "c" programming language file
[11:55] <Akaruz> jrib what u mena?
[11:55] <erUSUL> !cli > Akaruz
[11:55] <Akaruz> mean?*
[11:55] <manipulate> -.-
[11:55] <Akaruz> ok
[11:55] <jrib> Akaruz: what do you want to do/install?
[11:55] <manipulate> I was going along with sometux
[11:55] <manipulate> err, jrib*
[11:56] <Zol> After I've added some lisp code to my .emacs, how do I get emacs to boot with the changes?
[11:56] <barberan> jrib: instead of network manager I will configure some files)
[11:56] <Akaruz> jrib just wan't install Polytro program for wine.
[11:56] <neeon> Mplayer has finished unexpectedly: Exit code 1
[11:56] <jrib> barberan: k
[11:56]  * jrib has no idea what Polytro is
[11:57] <ph_> where is the .bashrc located in Ubuntu
[11:57] <ikonia> ph_: your home directory
[11:58] <kuttan_> Yawwwwn..
[11:58] <ph_> it say  there is not such dir
[11:58] <jrib> ph_: what are you trying to accomplish?
[11:58] <ph_> put an alias in it
[11:58] <kuttan_> ph_ yes there is no such directory & should not have such directory
[11:59] <jrib> ph_: type: gedit ~/.bashrc
[11:59] <ph_> so have to create it then
[11:59] <jrib> ph_: you should have one by default
[11:59] <jrib> a .bashrc FILE
[12:01] <ph_> home dir meaning home/ or home meaning home/username
[12:02] <ph_> ok found it
[12:02] <ph_> thank you ]
[12:06] <frojnd> A friend of mine is trying to install openssh-server (clean 10.4 install) but instead he get: openssh-server Branje seznama paketov... Narejeno Gradnja drevesa odvisnosti  Reading state information... Narejeno Paket openssh-server nima navedene različice, vendar se nek drug paket nanaša nanj. To ponavadi pomeni, da paket manjka, je zastaran ali pa je na voljo samo iz drugega vira. E: Paket openssh-server nima kandidata za namestitev
[12:06] <Akaruz> i still can't understand how to go to some directory.... for example i need to go  to Download Directory.... (
[12:07] <craigbass1976> Trying to get a sound card working, but I can't even figure out which one of these http://pastebin.com/p60jrRuU  is my card.
[12:07] <nailora> is there a program that accepts a png-file on stdin and displays it?
[12:07] <frojnd> Package is missing, or is obsolete, or is available from other source....
[12:07] <jrib> Akaruz: in nautilus?  just click folders until you get there
[12:07] <frojnd> package openssh-server doesn't have a candidate for installation
[12:07] <frojnd> what's going on?
[12:07] <Akaruz> jrib i wan't with terminal...
[12:07] <jrib> frojnd: run sudo apt-get update.  If there's still an issue, pastebin your sources.list*
[12:07] <Akaruz> jrib how can i go to downloads directory from terminal
[12:08] <nailora> so that i can do:
[12:08] <nailora> qrencode -o - "some text" | $SOMEPROGRAM
[12:08] <nailora> to generate and view a qrcode
[12:08] <jrib> Akaruz: linux is case sensitive.  Does that help you?
[12:08] <frojnd> jrib: ok will do that
[12:08] <Akaruz> jrib ah :D i need the command...
[12:09] <jrib> Akaruz: what are you trying...?
[12:09] <Akaruz> jrib im trying to go to downloads directory and extract downloaded tarball file
[12:09] <jrib> !cli | Akaruz
[12:09] <Hamled> if the init scripts in /etc/init.d end up using upstart rather than the old Sys-V scripts, is there a way to force them to use the old scripts?
[12:10] <jrib> Hamled: well there's always a way but you probably don't want to
[12:11] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[12:11] <silv3r_m00n> firefox not starting and giving this error >> [metrics-module] exception: Error opening input stream (invalid filename?), stack: undefined
[12:11] <jrib> silv3r_m00n: firefox -safe-mode    work?
[12:12] <silv3r_m00n> ya works
[12:12] <jrib> silv3r_m00n: disable your extensions
[12:13] <silv3r_m00n> this happened after I installed a language from synaptic
[12:13] <silv3r_m00n> and after disabling that language  firefox is working normally
[12:13] <jana_> hi all
[12:17] <jrib> !away > C210|away
[12:21] <kulight> evolution keep start up on the contacts page instead of the mail page any one can help?
[12:24] <Hamled> jrib, my problem is that I'm in the middle of upgrading from 9.10 to 10.04 and upgrading libc6 did not work. It was attemping to check the init scripts, but all upstart commands give the error status: Name "com.ubuntu.Upstart" does not exist
[12:25] <Esat> why cant  i open my .mo files in /use/share directory?
[12:27] <Esat> test
[12:27] <Esat> anybody can see this message?
[12:27] <jrib> Esat: yes...
[12:27] <Esat> jrib: thanks
[12:27] <Esat> why cant  i open my .mo files in /use/share directory?
[12:27] <xiaotao> hi
[12:28] <Esat> xiaotao, hi
[12:28] <jrib> Hamled: how did you upgrade?  What repositories other than the official ones were you using?  Exactly what upstart commands fail?  Did they work before the upgrade?
[12:28] <jrib> Esat: how are you trying?  Why do you want to?
[12:28] <Esat> jrib: i want to translate this files to my language
[12:29] <jrib> Esat: I believe you work with .po files
[12:30] <erUSUL> Esat: correct you need the *.po file. maybe it will be easier for you tu use the web based translation tools of ubuntu ?
[12:30] <jrib> erUSUL: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Rosetta and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations will probably be helpful
[12:30] <jrib> oops
[12:30] <Hamled> jrib, I upgraded with update-manager. I was at first on 8.10, and I upgraded to 9.04 and then from 9.04 to 9.10. Both of those succeeded with minor hiccups (first time I tried to 3-way merge smb.conf and that failed, but reconfiguring with a different option worked, the second time bind9 failed because it hung trying to get a socket on startup, again the reconfiguration worked). Since libc6 was updated both of those times and it used th
[12:30] <jrib> Esat: those links were for you.  Also, if there's a translation team setup for your language, get in touch with them
[12:31] <jrib> Hamled: your message was truncated at "it used th"
[12:31] <Hamled> it used the same start/status/restart commands (all of which give the same error), I must assume they worked before
[12:31] <Hamled> I did not restart my machine between those upgrades, as I am not currently at the machine and was kind of (probably stupidly) hoping that it wouldn't be a problem if I only restarted after the final upgrade
[12:32] <erUSUL> Hamled: have you tried restarting dbus ?
[12:32] <Hamled> yes
[12:32] <Hamled> I killed the dbus-daemon and reran dbus-daemon --system
[12:32] <Hamled> (I did it taht way because the init scripts aren't working)
[12:33] <erUSUL> Hamled: "sudo restart dbus"
[12:33] <ATMMachine> yo
[12:33] <laeg> i've used nautilus to search for documents of a certain name, can i somehow search the text contained in each of the many found items for a certain string of text?
[12:34] <jrib> Hamled: apt-cache policy dbus  (what version is installed?)
[12:34] <Hamled> that just stalls, as with the other commands. Now that I think of it, the Name not found error was probably due to me attempting to run it with user privileges, so my bad on that. But when I run any of those commands with sudo they just wait infinitely
[12:35] <sacarlson> laeg: I don't know how to do that in nautilus but from the command line you can use the grep function to search for strings inside files
[12:36] <Hamled> 1.2.16-0ubuntu9 is installed and 1.2.16-2ubuntu4 is the candidate
[12:36] <vlitos> #ubuntu
[12:36] <sacarlson> laeg: example grep "thisstring" *.txt   will search for "thisstring" in all *.txt files
[12:36] <laeg> sacarlson: there are over a hundred files of the same name, scattered in different places, can i use to to search all documents name PowerAuras.lua for the string rupture?
[12:36] <laeg> ok
[12:36] <laeg> so grep "rupture" PowerAuras.lua?
[12:37] <laeg> sacarlson:
[12:37] <jrib> Hamled: so the issue now is that with sudo, the stop start and status commands just hang?  I assume the same is true of 'sudo service WHATEVER start'?
[12:38] <Hamled> yes, it seems that way
[12:38] <jrib> Hamled: what service are you using to test?
[12:38] <Akaruz> why i got this message while updating,.......
[12:38] <Akaruz> /home/akaruz/Downloads/magentsetup.exe
[12:38] <sacarlson> laeg: same file name different places then you will have to use recursive mode from top of file structure to search  grep -r "rapture" PowerAruras.lua
[12:38] <Akaruz> W: A error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used.GPG error: http://downloadue.info lucid Release: The following signatures were invalid: NODATA 1 NODATA 2
[12:38] <Akaruz> W: Failed to fetch http://downloadue.info/repo/dists/lucid/Release
[12:38] <Akaruz> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/team-xbmc/karmic-ppa/ubuntu/dists/karmic/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404  Not Found
[12:38] <Akaruz> W: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[12:38] <FloodBot3> Akaruz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:39] <laeg> sacarlson: rupture, but sounds good ty :)
[12:39] <laeg> the rapture doesn't much concern me :D
[12:39] <Hamled> dbus and atd
[12:39] <Hamled> actually sudo service ssh status worked
[12:39] <laeg> sacarlson: laeg@skyrocket:~$ grep -r "rupture" PowerAuras.lua
[12:40] <laeg> sacarlson: grep: PowerAuras.lua: No such file or directory
[12:40] <sacarlson> laeg: did you start from a dir tree that has that file in it?   you can use find -name "PowerA*"   see what comes out
[12:41] <Akaruz> W: A error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used.GPG error: http://downloadue.info lucid Release: The following signatures were invalid: NODATA 1 NODATA 2
[12:41] <Akaruz> W: Failed to fetch http://downloadue.info/repo/dists/lucid/Release
[12:41] <Akaruz> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/team-xbmc/karmic-ppa/ubuntu/dists/karmic/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404  Not Found
[12:41] <Akaruz> W: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[12:41] <FloodBot3> Akaruz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:41] <laeg> sacarlson: i'm in my home dir "laeg"
[12:41] <irvken> anyone know how to get images off my samsung android phone onto my ubuntu laptop by usb
[12:41] <erUSUL> Akaruz: :/
[12:41] <jrib> Hamled: can you pastebin what happened when apt failed?  Maybe add "set -x" to the relevant .preinst and .postinst
[12:42] <jrib> Akaruz: this channel is not a pastebin
[12:42] <psyt7> does anyone here know how to make suggested powertop changes permanent? are there any guide for this? (in order to save some battery)
[12:42] <compatt> hi everybody I need some help about my notebook ACER TravelMate 7720 ubuntu 10.04 64 bit, I have problems with the mouse's arro
[12:42] <compatt> w
[12:42] <Esat> irvken,
[12:43] <compatt> it goes everywhere and it clicks everything it finds
[12:43] <laeg> sacarlson: the find command found many PowerAura.lua, maybe because it is a .lua file grep doesn't know it can search it as a text file?
[12:43] <compatt> the arrow gets crazy, i tried to change mouse
[12:43] <Hamled> well, the original output of running do-release-upgrades is lost now unfortunately, and running dpkg --configure -a provides this output: http://pastebin.com/Zt5biY6z
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> laeg:  grep dosent care.
[12:43] <compatt> but i've got the same problem
[12:43] <laeg> Dr_Willis: well it cares about something in this case
[12:43] <sacarlson> laeg: no it should search any file even bin files
[12:43] <compatt> can someone help me??
[12:43] <ATMMachine> what you guys talking about i got lost?
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> laeg:  it is actuall y a text file right  with just the .lua extension - you can edit it in a text editor
[12:44] <jrib> Hamled: how long is it stuck there?
[12:44] <Hamled> would it be safe to try re-running do-release-upgrades?
[12:44] <Hamled> at least 20 minutes
[12:44] <erUSUL> Dr_Willis: probably lua is a script lang like python or perl
[12:44] <laeg> sacarlson, Dr_Willis: find -name "PowerA*"
[12:45] <Hamled> ps shows it's trying to run status atd
[12:45] <jrib> Hamled: I would hope it would start by running dpkg --configure -a, but you can try.  In either case add "set -x" near the top of /var/lib/dpkg/info/libc6.*inst
[12:45] <yeah_> hi
[12:45] <yeah_> http://dpaste.com/235174/ this is my dmesg
[12:45] <jrib> Hamled: oh
[12:45] <laeg> Dr_Willis, sacarlson: returned many hits but grep -r "rupture" PowerAuras.lua returns no such file or directory?
[12:45] <intok>  will clamav for ubuntu find windows viruses on a windows install?
[12:45] <yeah_> i cant connect anywireless access
[12:45] <Hamled> I could try to remove such a check from the script, but I don't know where the unpacked files are
[12:45] <erUSUL> laeg: find dir_where_lua_files_are/ -name 'Powera*' -exec grep "string" '{}' /dev/null +
[12:46] <yeah_> 02:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. Device 8172 (rev 10) 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller (rev 02)
[12:46] <yeah_> lspci
[12:46] <jrib> Hamled: they're where I told you to add "set -x" but I wouldn't remove the check just yet
[12:46] <kuttan_> if anybody bored , can pm me
[12:46] <laeg> erUSUL: lua files are scattered in different places, but all within my home dir somewhere?
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> laeg:  try it without quotes
[12:46] <sacarlson> laeg: as far as I know it should have worked.
[12:46] <Hamled> k
[12:46] <laeg> Dr_Willis: no dice
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> laeg:  and grep would be searching the file in the current directory.
[12:46] <laeg> Dr_Willis: they are in different directories
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> laeg:  grep dosent care.  ine wrongly
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> grr..
[12:47] <laeg> Dr_Willis: "ine wrongly"?
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> laeg:  you are using the grep command line wrongly
[12:47] <kamil> WTF?
[12:47] <laeg> erUSUL: can i stick a -r for recursive in there somewhere?
[12:47] <erUSUL> laeg: find is recursive by definition
[12:47] <sebsebseb> !language | kamil
[12:47] <jrib> !pm | kuttan_
[12:47] <sebsebseb> to late they left
[12:47] <erUSUL> laeg: find $HOME -name 'Powera*' -exec grep "string" '{}' /dev/null +
[12:47] <sacarlson> laeg: Dr_Willis: but with the grep -r  we should be searching recursivly down the tree of dirs from where you started.
[12:48] <CruelCoke> ...
[12:48] <laeg> erUSUL: i replace string with the word rupture, right?
[12:48] <Hamled> jrib, my thinking is that because I upgraded and did not reboot before upgrading again some of the applications that might be depending on a newer kernel version are not working... could I possibly move to the old version of libc6 and then attempt to restart with the new kernel?
[12:48] <erUSUL> laeg: if that's what you are looking for; yes
[12:48] <sacarlson> erUSUL: laeg: that might work
[12:48] <erUSUL> laeg: is case sensitive.
[12:48] <yeah_> is there anyone who can help me
[12:48] <yeah_> it s about wireless driver
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> sacarlson:  you sure its -r or is it -R   heres a grep tutorial i saw the other day -> http://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/317617:getting-a-grip-on-gnu-grep
[12:48] <sebsebseb> !details | yeah_
[12:49] <irvken> Esat,
[12:49] <sudobat> yeah_ , explain
[12:49] <Esat> irvken,
[12:49] <laeg> erUSUL: returns >> find: missing argument to `-exec'
[12:49] <jrib> Hamled: worth a try. I think that's a good hypothesis.  Worst case scenario, you'll have to boot from a live cd
[12:49] <yeah_> i cant detect any wireless access
[12:49] <sacarlson> Dr_Willis: my man page says -r or -R did they change something?
[12:49] <irvken> Esat, are you able to help
[12:49] <Esat> you replied so late, yes
[12:49] <yeah_> i can only detect when i start the pc
[12:49] <yeah_> netbook
[12:49] <Esat> go to top menu on desktop
[12:49] <laeg> erUSUL: find $HOME -name 'PowerA*' -exec grep "rupture" '{}' /dev/null +
[12:49] <linxeh> depends on the version of grep
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> sacarlson:  no idea. i normally pipe things to grep.
[12:49] <sudobat> what?
[12:49] <irvken> oc or phone
[12:49] <irvken> pc
[12:49] <yeah_> but afrer a minute it s all disappear
[12:49] <Hamled> all because the the pack formats for my bzr repos were incompatible! ;_________________;
[12:49] <Esat> pc
[12:50] <irvken> ok
[12:50] <jrib> laeg: the /dev/null is silly, no?
[12:50] <Esat> can you see mobile's name there?
[12:50] <irvken> no
[12:50] <sudobat> which wireless card you got?
[12:50] <erUSUL> laeg: change + to \;
[12:50] <yeah_> 02:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. Device 8172 (rev 10) 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller (rev 02)
[12:50] <Esat> are you sure that all of them's conneciton are on?
[12:50] <laeg> erUSUL: gave me a > prompt
[12:51] <irvken> Esat
[12:51] <Esat> Bluetooth?
[12:51] <laeg> jrib: i'm a novice following instruction
[12:51] <Hamled> how would I go back to the old libc6? since it never got past the initial check of init scripts, I don't think it actually installed any files (unless the unpack step is when the files are replaced?)
[12:51] <irvken> no bluetooth on laptop
[12:51] <Esat> irvken, yes
[12:51] <irvken> using usb
[12:51] <sudobat> and when you boot you can connect for a minute
[12:51] <sudobat> and then it dies?
[12:51] <Esat> hmmm, i see irv
[12:51] <yeah_> yeah
[12:51] <irvken> messages shows usb connetion
[12:52] <Esat> when you attact it to pc, it shall find your mobile
[12:52] <sacarlson> Dr_Willis: I just verified seems recursion in grep isn't working for me also.  seems it worked before.
[12:52] <erUSUL> laeg: find $HOME -name 'Powera*' -exec grep "string" /dev/null '{}' +
[12:52] <yeah_> my dmesg http://dpaste.com/235174/
[12:52] <irvken> it doesn't
[12:52] <Esat> so
[12:52] <Esat> power off and on again
[12:52] <jrib> erUSUL: why /dev/null there?
[12:52] <erUSUL> jrib: to force grep to print the filename
[12:52] <sebsebseb> Esat: No no, this isn't The IT Crowd :D
[12:53] <erUSUL> jrib: in case it only pass a single file
[12:53] <jrib> erUSUL: -H  :P
[12:53] <sudobat> yeah_ , I don't know but it seems some driver problem
[12:53] <yeah_> thankyou sudobat
[12:53] <jpds> sebsebseb: But we are a crowd involved in IT.
[12:53] <irvken> i did that before
[12:53] <irvken> rebootin now
[12:53] <yeah_> ifound some bug reports about that driver
[12:53] <sebsebseb> jpds: yep, but they say in that show a lot, to power off and on again, hence jokeing about it :)
[12:53] <yeah_> but there is no fix
[12:53] <erUSUL> jrib: tst tst.... my version works in a solarix box with 1989 era find and grep XXDD
[12:54] <jrib> erUSUL: :)
[12:54] <Esat> you dont need rebooting
[12:54]  * erUSUL messes his grey beard
[12:54] <erUSUL> kids today have it easy
[12:54] <sudobat> yeah_ , maybe you could install windows drivers using ndiswrapper
[12:54] <yeah_> i can do that
[12:55] <sudobat> but I recommend you to do it as a last resource
[12:55] <erUSUL> jrib: thnaks for the heads up btw ;P
[12:55] <irvken> Esat, do you have an android phone
[12:55] <danonino> hi all
[12:55] <laeg> erUSUL: searching, ty
[12:55] <yeah_> but how can i remove linux driver
[12:55] <laeg> erUSUL: writing that one down.
[12:55] <yeah_> or overwrite
[12:55] <laeg> sacarlson, Dr_Willis, jrib: ty all.
[12:55] <sudobat> mmm
[12:55] <irvken> what is MTP application?
[12:56] <sudobat> I think you have to remove a kernel module or something like that
[12:56] <plitter> Hello , I have a problem with the forced check on my ubuntu stationary, it takes forever... but i've been trying to fix the resolution on my tty1-6 so i cant see anything... how do i cancel the disk check?
[12:56] <yeah_> hımm ok
[12:56] <sudobat> rmmod
[12:56] <discozohan> Can anyone say, is this intallation of 2 software raids correct: raid1 with 2 active drives, on each drive 2 partitions - one for swap, another for system with lvm; raid10 with 4 active devices, each has only 1 partition with lvm
[12:56] <irvken> when I plug usb cable from phone to pc phone says MTP application
[12:56] <discozohan> whats wrong here ?
[12:56] <discozohan> System can't load raid 10
[12:56] <discozohan> without it - everything ok
[12:57] <discozohan> and why ubuntu installation my default has 2 active drives for raid 10 ? I think it should be 4
[12:57] <discozohan> by*
[12:58] <erUSUL> discozohan: sawp on a raid 1 makes little sense
[12:58] <cast> erUSUL: why is that?
[12:58] <discozohan> erUSUL: what do you mean ?
[12:58] <burgua> hi all!
[12:58] <sebsebseb> Hi cast
[12:58] <erUSUL> cast: you do not need swap to be reliable
[12:58] <cast> discozohan: perhaps its split into two layers?
[12:58] <cast> erUSUL: yes you do
[12:58] <frojnd> I'm total newbie with ubuntu. According to http://linux-wless.passys.nl/query_part.php?brandname=TP-Link my card is TP-WN722N there is no way to install drives even windows's to make this usb wifi card work? How do I install windows wifi drivers under ubuntu? Please help
[12:58] <plitter> Hello , I have a problem with the forced disk check on my ubuntu stationary, it takes forever... but i've been trying to fix the resolution on my tty1-6 so i cant see anything and thus i cant see how to cancel it... how do i cancel the disk check?
[12:59] <cast> erUSUL: if a chunk of your virtual memory space disappears what do you think is going to happen to the processes using that memory?
[12:59] <sacarlson> I found my error in grep -r  "string"  *.txt   with this search it will only continue search if the directory matches *.txt  I've always just used *  so it works fine for that.
[12:59] <burgua> how to switch gnome to kde in Ubuntu? By default it was ubuntu, installed kde-minimal
[12:59] <erUSUL> cast: the data you store in swap is throw away. you loose it on averyboot. why protect against disk faliure ?
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> burgua:  the GDM/KDM login screen has a menu item to select
[13:00] <burgua> Dr_Willis: yup, but bydefault is ever GNOME
[13:00] <cast> erUSUL: RAID1 is used to increase availability, can you see how if you didn't mirror swap and you lost a disk, it would result in a loss of services?
[13:00] <jrib> sacarlson: grep 'string' **/*.txt    because find is evil and stuff
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> sacarlson:  the ting with '*' in bash is to rember its the SHELL parseing the * and passing the matched  files/dirs to the command. Not the command.
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> burgua:  i select KDE here on my GDM login windos and it uses KDE for me..
[13:00] <discozohan> cast: what layers are you talking about ? ;) I am unable to find tutorial for installation of software raid 10. So i just took 4 drives, on each of them created 1 partition, made raid 10 with 4 active devices and 0 spare, installed lvm and used all this for /home directory.
[13:01] <discozohan> but ubuntu can't load /home directory
[13:01] <Dr_Willis> burgua:  are you saying your selection dosent work? or you cant select KDE?
[13:01] <erUSUL> cast: ok fair enough
[13:01] <xzil0> burgua, i think you will first need to install kubuntu-desktop package
[13:01] <cast> discozohan: can you pastebin /proc/mdstat :)
[13:01] <burgua> Dr_Willis: selection works. But Every boot I must to select KDE
[13:01] <Dr_Willis> burgua:  check your .dmrc file
[13:02] <burgua> Dr_Willis: Session=kde
[13:02] <cast> erUSUL: fairly common mistake, though a serious one if you're running important apps
[13:02] <zzzed_> burgua, on the login screen, when you select KDE you can make it default for future logins
[13:02] <sometux> discozohan, what is your fstab home entry?
[13:02] <nagnatron> any way to get the new beta radiance theme in lucid?
[13:02] <Dr_Willis> burgua:  since you did a minimal kde install .. its possible thats the issue
[13:02] <frojnd> Can someone point me to the wiki or somewehere where can I install (even windows drivers would be OK) drivers for wifi card please? card is: TL-WN722N
[13:02] <sacarlson> you never stop learning .... unless your me you just keep getting dumber.
[13:03] <burgua> Dr_Willis: ok, thx
[13:03] <sometux> nagnatron, try to look for ppa
[13:03] <oskarkv> I tried to install new Nvidia drivers, and I managed to uninstall something (window manager?), the result is that my windows don't have those quit, maximize and minimize buttons, and sometimes can't be moved by dragging. What have I done and how can I fix it? :P
[13:03] <Dr_Willis> oskarkv:  try alt-f2 and run 'metacity --replace' see if they come back
[13:03] <oskarkv> ok
[13:03] <undifined> sacarlson, the more you learn the more you reallize you are dumb :-)
[13:04] <LinuxNewbie> I am looking for help with the Empathy IM client.
[13:04] <discozohan> sometux: it looks like "/dev/mapper/home_vg-home /home ext4 defaults 0 2". So, system loads, but without this raid10
[13:04] <LinuxNewbie> It records all of my conversations. There appears to be no way to stop it from doing this.
[13:05] <oskarkv> Yes they did, thanks Dr_Willis
[13:05] <Dr_Willis> oskarkv:  you removed/broke the nvidia drivers so compiz is failing to start - thats my bet.
[13:05] <sometux> discozohan, demsg | less and look for any reference to you raid10
[13:05] <frojnd> Can someone point me to the wiki or somewehere where can I install (even windows drivers would be OK) drivers for wifi card please? card is: TL-WN722N soeone just please give me a wiki
[13:06] <Zol> In bash, what've done wrong with this alias: alias ggg="g++ $1 -o $2;./$2"?
[13:06] <Dr_Willis> frojnd:  you did check the forums ?
[13:06] <Dr_Willis> Zol:  perhaps you need single quotes.
[13:06] <Akaruz> ah ( I got error while updating... and i can't update anything.... somebody help me
[13:06] <sometux> frojnd, look for native linux drivers, your best bet
[13:06] <Zol> Dr_Willis: Will try!
[13:07] <LinuxNewbie> How can I permanently disable the logging of messages in empathy?
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> Zol:  the use of $1  - could be getting parsed when you enter the alias. not when you run the actual alias.. *perhaps*
[13:07] <Akaruz> how can i fix this Err http://ppa.launchpad.net karmic/main Packages
[13:07] <Akaruz>   404  Not Found
[13:07] <Akaruz> Get:4 http://downloadue.info lucid Release
[13:07] <Akaruz> Err http://downloadue.info lucid Release
[13:07] <Akaruz>   
[13:07] <FloodBot3> Akaruz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:07] <Akaruz> Fetched 10.1kB in 7s (1,383B/s)
[13:07] <discozohan> cast: cat /proc/mdstat http://pastebin.com/sMaxMePF
[13:08] <LinuxNewbie> First time on an IRC channel. :-O
[13:08] <sebsebseb> LinuxNewbie: In Empathys settings
[13:09] <nmvictor> anyone with ideas on how i could convet ESN to IMEI, my modem has no IMEI code.
[13:09] <frojnd> Dr_Willis: yes I ddid and All I found was: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9551308 I don't know how to install it from here: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/ath9k_htc#ath9k_htc
[13:09] <cast> LinuxNewbie: hello
[13:09] <frojnd> any help would be appreciated
[13:09] <LinuxNewbie> Hello.
[13:10] <sebsebseb> LinuxNewbie: Hello
[13:10] <oskarkv> Hm, when I press arrow up in my terminal, I want to go through previously entered commands, but only those that start with the letters I have already typed, how can I enable this behaviour?
[13:10] <rabbit_kan> hello
[13:10] <tew88> I'm experiencing quite choppy Flash playback in Ubuntu 10.04. Is there anything I can do to resolve this? I've installed ubuntu-restricted-extras.
[13:10] <sebsebseb> hello  (anyway lets's not flood the channel with to many of these)
[13:10] <kad_> heys!! need help i have sendmail, where i can get Pop3 ?
[13:11] <sebsebseb> tew88: try another browser I guess
[13:11] <sebsebseb> tew88: I mean Firefox is great, but Flash won't always work properly in it in Ubuntu
[13:12] <tew88> sebsebseb: I've tried with FF and Chrome. Same problem. This leads me to believe it's more fundamental.
[13:12] <Akaruz> Someone please help me.....
[13:12] <Akaruz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/484935/
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> 'Flash won't always work properly'   :) is a more accurate statment i think. :)
[13:12] <Akaruz> got this
[13:12] <Akaruz> while updating.
[13:12] <sebsebseb> tew88: Was that Chrome or Chromeium?
[13:12] <tew88> Chromeium.
[13:12] <rabbit_kan> I wanna know that why every time when I make some settings, i always need to reboot my system, I heard that linux doesn't need to restart,is that true?
[13:13] <LinuxNewbie> "In Empathys settings"... how? I have looked and found nothing that allows me to delete or better, disable logging of conversations.
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> rabbit_kan:  what settings? Ive rarely needed to reboot for any settings that i can think of.
[13:13] <sebsebseb> twmi: Now I don't like Chrome much, but  if you get the closed source one from Google yep Chrome they have Flash built in.  However first I would recommend trying browsers such as,  Arora, Epiphany, Galeon, and Konqueror.
[13:14] <sometux> kad_, sendmail is MTA which handles sending and receiving email only, for pop3 you need another software
[13:14] <kad_> sometux, aha thx, can you tell me any known pop3 daemon  on ubuntu
[13:14] <discozohan> sometux: i looked into dmesg and saw interesting rows: "raid1: md1 is not clean -- starting background reconstruction", raid10: md2 is not clean -- starting background reconstruction", and last rows are "md2: resync done"
[13:14] <LinuxNewbie> how are you all directing replies @ each other? What's all this:
[13:14] <LinuxNewbie> username: "post body" business?
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> !mailserver
[13:14] <sebsebseb> tew88: see above, I high lighted wrong person
[13:15] <Dr_Willis> !tab | LinuxNewbie
[13:15] <discozohan> sometux: so, md1 = system raid1, md2 = home raid 10; i can't get, why it's resyncing ?
[13:16] <discozohan> sometux: does it mean, that i've done incorrect installation somewhere ?
[13:16] <rabbit_kan> Dr_willis:some software,for example fcitx,is there anyway to replace the restart way to let my setting be useful right away?
[13:16] <thune3> tew88: you can play with gpu detection override, for my underpowered graphics system the results were mixed. http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/06/fixing-fullscreen-flash-in-ubuntu-1004.html
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> rabbit_kan:  services can be restarted via the 'sudo service SERVICENAME restart' command
[13:16] <sometux> kad_, postfix
[13:17] <Dr_Willis> rabbit_kan:  no idea what fcitx is.
[13:17] <LinuxNewbie> ubottu: I see what you mean. I assumed highlighting the nickname in right side panel would direct the typed messages at the highlighted person. Thanks.
[13:17] <sebsebseb> LinuxNewbie: :)
[13:17] <sebsebseb> LinuxNewbie: uhmm
[13:17] <discozohan> sometux: and now last rows are : "md1: resync done". So, it showed that both raids successfully resynced
[13:17] <Dr_Willis> Thats alwyas funny.
[13:17] <kad_> sometux, thx
[13:17] <sebsebseb> LinuxNewbie: quite a lot of new users do that, message the bot, its a computer program, not a person
[13:17] <sebsebseb> Dr_Willis: When they message the bot you mean?
[13:17] <Dr_Willis> sebsebseb:  yep :)
[13:18] <sebsebseb> ubottu is also female apparently
[13:18] <sebsebseb> !gender
[13:18] <tew88> sebsebseb, thune3: Thank you.
[13:18] <Dr_Willis> a 'FemBot'
[13:18] <rabbit_kan> Dr_willis: is any software have a service name?
[13:18] <LinuxNewbie> sebsebseb: That was funny. You know your noob when you send a message in response to a programmed message. :-!
[13:19] <Dr_Willis> rabbit_kan:  Services are services... not sure what you mean. see whats in /etc/init or /etc/init.d/ to determine what services you have installed.
[13:19] <albech_> I am experiencing strange colors on video playback in 10.04 with both Movie Player and VLC. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4669371/strange-color.png
[13:19] <sometux> kad_,  sorry postfix is another mta, try dovecot
[13:19] <LinuxNewbie> sebsebseb: Do you have or are using Empathy? I would very much like to disable the logging of everything I view and type in this program.
[13:19] <sebsebseb> LinuxNewbie: I have been using Empathy a bit recently, for Facebook chat
[13:19] <Dr_Willis> LinuxNewbie:  if you are using empathy for just irc.. you may want to get a differnt/better irc client.
[13:20] <sebsebseb> LinuxNewbie: normally I would do that in Pidgin, but I had a little issue with that on my current non Ubuntu distro
[13:20] <sebsebseb> LinuxNewbie: logs can be useful, and most people will have a personal log of them being on IRC
[13:20] <kad_> sometux, thx =)
[13:20] <sebsebseb> LinuxNewbie: there are even logs of this channel public logs
[13:20] <sebsebseb> !logs | LinuxNewbie
[13:21] <Dr_Willis> !logs
[13:21] <Dr_Willis> :)
[13:21] <Dr_Willis> We can grep the logs and get a top 10 asked question summary.
[13:21] <sebsebseb> LinuxNewbie: Why do you want to disable logs?
[13:21] <Dr_Willis> That would be an interesting bit of codeing for a program to automate that.
[13:21] <discozohan> i have raid 10, that "was not ready" while booting. Now i see in dmesg row "md2: resync done", so how can i load it manually ?
[13:22] <LinuxNewbie> sebsebseb: There's so little digital privacy, if any, in developed countries that I don't need my own computer to be logging everything I do.
[13:22] <sebsebseb> LinuxNewbie: ok
[13:22] <sebsebseb> LinuxNewbie: What are you using Empathy for?
[13:22] <LinuxNewbie> sebsebseb: Replacement of Bill Gates chat IM.
[13:22] <sebsebseb> LinuxNewbie: oh for MSN uhmm
[13:23] <sometux> discozohan, I'm not sure but i think you have to use /dev/md2 in your fstab
[13:23] <sebsebseb> LinuxNewbie: Empathy will be alright for that, but there are better programs for that sucky chat network as well
[13:23] <sebsebseb> LinuxNewbie: Such as Emesene,  AMSN, and Kmess
[13:24] <LinuxNewbie> sebsebseb: I would drop my MSN account altogether but that would mean phoning around everyone telling them I have a new account. Empathy is pre-installed so I thought I would try that first.
[13:24] <LinuxNewbie> sebsebseb: Guess I will use something called "Pidgin". Hope that doesn't log everything as well?
[13:25] <sebsebseb> LinuxNewbie: uhmm
[13:25] <discozohan> sometux: ok, but i have last question: why ubuntu can't make normal installation ? Why have they included raid10, if it can't normally load ? I am confused
[13:25] <sebsebseb> LinuxNewbie: just looked at Empathy and I can't seem to find the thing for logs
[13:25] <sebsebseb> LinuxNewbie: Pidgin is nice, and it does log, but you can turn that off easilley
[13:25] <sebsebseb> LinuxNewbie: maybe there isn't something in Empathy to turn off logs hrm
[13:26] <LinuxNewbie> sebsebseb: It raises the question. Why log everything the user does and not warn them or let them turn it off? Not a good move on part of the developers.
[13:26] <FastReading> LinuxNewbie: if you don't want the logs and cannot find the option to disable them, you can do the following: wipe the directory the program creates in your /home folder. It's normally the application's name preceded by a dot
[13:26] <shirtless> Is there any gnome integration available for easy stroke? Like an applet?
[13:26] <FastReading> LinuxNewbie: definitely a bad move, the same happens with skype and msn if I am not mistaken
[13:26] <shirtless> (I am thinking about writing it, want to make sure it doesn't exist)
[13:27] <dmex01> FastReading: you can disable logging in msn
[13:27] <dmex01> LinuxNewbie: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=952864
[13:27] <LinuxNewbie> sebsebseb: You can turn off the logging in MSN, surprisingly.
[13:27] <FastReading> dmex01: I know, I was answering to LinuxNewbie, who said that having logs enabled by default was a bad move
[13:28] <sebsebseb> LinuxNewbie: you can with Empathy some how as well I expect, and the other programs that were just mentioned, you can there quite easilely
[13:28] <sometux> discozohan, try and tell me what you get
[13:28] <trueflu> Hello all just got a quick general uninstal. After I have uninstalled Ubuntu "don't worry I'll be installing it on VMware aftewards" will the partition on my harddrive restore it's self or do I need to do this manually?
[13:28] <FastReading> LinuxNewbie: nonetheless, with msn , even when logging is disabled, contact list info is logged to the directory
[13:28] <Dr_Willis> trueflu:  how are you 'uninstalling' ubuntu ?
[13:29] <FastReading> LinuxNewbie: at least with linux's msn clone --> aMSN
[13:29] <sebsebseb> LinuxNewbie: see my pm, I told you something about Pidgin
[13:29] <trueflu> Putting it on "VWware" as a virtual machine
[13:29] <Dr_Willis> trueflu:  if you just delete the parittion, you will need to remake/reformat it for whatever fileysstem you want on it.
[13:29] <Dr_Willis> trueflu:  that made no sence to me.. 'putting it on vmware....'
[13:29] <LinuxNewbie> sebsebseb: PM?
[13:29] <frojnd> I'm trxing to untar the file tar xvfj compat-wireless.tar.bz2  but instead I get error: bzip2: (stdin) is not a bzip2 file.
[13:29] <frojnd> tar: Child returned status 2
[13:30] <frojnd> tar: Exiting with failure status due to previous errors
[13:30] <sebsebseb> LinuxNewbie: private message
[13:30] <discozohan> sometux: there is a little problem - i don't really know how can i use md2 in fstab. Should l just replace "/dev/mapper/home_vg-home" with "/dev/md2" ?
[13:30] <cast> frojnd: f should be the last option
[13:31] <Dr_Willis> frojnd:  im lazy and always use 'unp' these days
[13:31] <LinuxNewbie> sebsebseb: Thanks for the help. Basically Empathy doesn't let the user disable the logging so I have to either periodically wipe the log storage directory or use "Pidgin".
[13:31] <Joeyx> hi
[13:31] <cast> frojnd: but if for some reason your tar cant do bz2, bzcat compat-wireless.tar.bz2|tar xv  will work too
[13:31] <Joeyx> how do I start an app using the terminal?
[13:31] <seekalana> Connection reset by peer
[13:31] <trueflu> Thanks Dr. Willis. Will this mean that if I wish to restore the storage space from the old partition to the larger partition I'd have to reformat both partitions?
[13:31] <seekalana> SSL_write:: bad write retry
[13:31] <cast> Joeyx: you type its name and push enter.
[13:31] <sometux> discozohan, exactly
[13:31] <Joeyx> thats all?
[13:32] <frojnd> Dr_Willis: cast thanx
[13:32] <sebsebseb> LinuxNewbie: Pidgin is good, but, well see the pm for the but,  altough I could have realy said it in here, but I don't want loads of people to think Pidgin is a bad programs as a result, because its not.
[13:32] <Joeyx> ok thanks
[13:32] <FastReading> LinuxNewbie: is the log storage limited to /home temp directories or is there also at /tmp as well?
[13:32] <cast> Joeyx: yeah. try typing "firefox" etc...
[13:32] <Hamled> jribas, thanks for all of the help! I was able to downgrade libc-bin and libc6 and after restarting the upgrade worked fine
[13:32] <shirtless> frojnd: I am not sure why tar would try to read from standard input unless you tried to pipe into it or had a stray '-' in your command line
[13:34] <LinuxNewbie> FastReading: I don't know, I don't understand the linux file structuring system.
[13:34] <LinuxNewbie> FastReading: (yet)
[13:34] <sebsebseb> LinuxNewbie: Empathy is a new program, it does more than Pidgin and what not, but  I guess its not as user friendly
[13:35] <sebsebseb> LinuxNewbie: in the home folder are hidden .folders with program user data, for  Linux distros, and thats what FastReading is on about
[13:35] <sebsebseb> LinuxNewbie: well  .empathy   or for pidign  .purple
[13:35] <LinuxNewbie> sebsebseb: Understatement, it doesn't let me stop logging of my conversations.
[13:35] <LinuxNewbie> sebsebseb: Also, can you elaborate when you mentioned something about storing passwords in an insecure way?
[13:35] <sebsebseb> LinuxNewbie: ok you did see that then :)
[13:36] <LinuxNewbie> It was under the logged stuff.
[13:36] <cast> hi sebsebseb
[13:36] <slawas> Could You tell me how to install Cowpatty?
[13:36] <seekalana> FUCK OFF
[13:37] <seekalana> FUCK OFF JSUT FUCK OFF
[13:37] <FloodBot3> seekalana: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:37] <om26er> !language | seekalana
[13:37] <discozohan> sometux: so now it's the same, but i don't see any messages in dmesg about "resyncing". There are rows "raid10: raid set md2 active with 4 out of 4 devices", "md2: detected capacity change from 0 to 1000213446656", " md2: p1". Thats all
[13:38] <seekalana> FUCK YOU
[13:38] <seekalana> JUST FUCK OFF PLEASE
[13:38] <sebsebseb> !ops | seekalana
[13:38] <FastReading> sebsebseb: in order to know exactly where empathy stores all the data, it would probably be good to trace its system calls. The application can be run with "strace" and the system calls stored to a file, then the file can be filtered piping its output with "grep", so that only lines with "O_WR", "RDWR", "mkdir", "rename",etc. are listed, that would probably give the most accurate information about all the places it is storing data
[13:38] <seekalana> PLZ
[13:38] <seekalana> OMFG
[13:38] <om26er> bye
[13:38] <discozohan> sometux: so, as i think there was a resyncing before cause of first load of the system, it seems it is default behaviour
[13:38] <LinuxNewbie> sebsebseb: Has someone filed a bug report to the developers, so they can fix it in the next release?
[13:39] <sebsebseb> LinuxNewbie: you mean the password thing?
[13:39] <LinuxNewbie> sebsebseb: Yes
[13:39] <kuttan_> seekalana whats up dude ..!
[13:39] <sometux> discozohan, lets try to mount the raid manually
[13:39] <sebsebseb> LinuxNewbie: someone I know online,  if I remember correctly made a fix, but  was never excepted by them in that case, or maybe he didn't even submit it
[13:39] <slawas> Is Cowpatty avaliable in APT repository?
[13:40] <sometux> discozohan, use this commadn: sudo mount /dev/md2 -t ext4  <mount point>
[13:40] <sebsebseb> LinuxNewbie: well you can still use the program, without saving your password, if your concerned about that
[13:40] <LinuxNewbie> sebsebseb: Do you use "Evolution" email client?
[13:40] <sebsebseb> LinuxNewbie: no
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[13:41] <FloodBot3> root___: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:42] <root___> ~~
[13:42] <Seeker`> root___: what are you trying to do?
[13:42] <Baram2> Ok, I'm still having issues with WIRED network connection.  Ubuntu 9.10, 64b, problems happened after installing updates from repos (I remember a new kernel, 2.6.32-24).  Tried removing network-manager and using wicd, seemed to work but connection lost 1.5 hours later an unable to recover.
[13:42] <LinuxNewbie> sebsebseb: I don't understand any of the setup requirements. It asks for all manner of technical details such as "POP" and "IMAP" servers etc.
[13:42] <LinuxNewbie> sebsebseb: I am sure I have set it up incorrectly. I want to receive the emails sent to my hotmail account and display them in the client instead of through the web browser at "http://www.login.live.com".
[13:42] <iflema> root___: /part or /close
[13:42] <FloodBot3> LinuxNewbie: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:42] <Baram2> Add, other machines connected to that router are still working fine, problem computer cannot even ping the router/gateway
[13:42] <sebsebseb> LinuxNewbie: oh hotmail, uhmm  I would suggest using gmail.com
[13:43] <Nyasar> wew
[13:43] <sebsebseb> LinuxNewbie: also email clients, personally I don't bother,  plus I don't really get that much email anyway that I need to see, but even if I did,  I would probably prefer web mail
[13:44] <discozohan> sometux: fail ;< Dmesg shows "EXT4-fs (md2): VFS: Can't find ext4 filesystem. How do you think, was it correct to define 4 active devices and 0 spare devices for raid10 ? May be problem about it ?
[13:44] <sebsebseb> LinuxNewbie: email clients, in my eyes are old fashioned technology,  that older people tend to want to use,  and business people of course
[13:44] <Nyasar> yg ol bnyak kali ea pada g traweh ea
[13:44] <slawas> Could You tell me what ATP is? I installed it from APT repos.
[13:44] <sebsebseb> LinuxNewbie: web mail can really nice, like for example what Google Mail has
[13:44] <axhynic> linuxNewbie: http://lifehacker.com/5169684/hotmail-finally-enables-pop3-worldwide
[13:44] <discozohan> sometux: or may be i should reinstall and simply use raid10 with 6 drives for whole system? -.-
[13:45] <sebsebseb> LinuxNewbie: and if I was to use an email client, yeah maybe evolution,  but I quite like Mozilla stuff, so Thunderbird
[13:45] <dmex> LinuxNewbie: also for evolution and hotmail: http://pricklytech.wordpress.com/2010/05/01/ubuntu-10-4-lucid-configuring-evolution-to-connect-to-hotmail-windows-live-mail/
[13:45] <sometux> discozohan, raid10 min=4
[13:45] <kuttan_> see what have I got .. :D xen-docs-4.0_4.0.1-0ubuntu1_all.deb  xen-hypervisor-4.0_4.0.1-0uxen-utils-4.0_4.0.1libxen4-dev_4.0.1-0ubuntu1_i386.deb , libxen4_4.0.1-0ubuntu1_i386.deb python-xen-4.0_4.0.1-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[13:46] <discozohan> sometux: yeah, i know. The question was about: may be it would be correct to use 2 active and 2 spare devices = 4 devices, but not 4 active and 0 spare -.- It's just suppose
[13:46] <sebsebseb> LinuxNewbie: and if you have an email client set up in Ubuntu, and then later want to re  install or even distro change for that matter,  even with a seperate /home which is pretty useful,  it  may not pick up on all the email settings
[13:46] <sometux> discozohan, have you created a filesystem (formatted) the new raid10
[13:46] <iflema> !apt slawas
[13:46] <iflema> !apt | slawas
[13:47] <sometux> discozohan, raid10 min=4 active
[13:47] <Baram2> Ok, I'm still having issues with WIRED network connection.  Ubuntu 9.10, 64b, problems happened after installing updates from repos (I remember a new kernel, 2.6.32-24).  Tried removing network-manager and using wicd, seemed to work but connection lost 1.5 hours later an unable to recover (including manually via dhclient).  All other machines on this router are working fine, problem computer cannot even get an ip now
[13:47] <LinuxNewbie> sebsebseb: Since I got ubuntu it seems all I have done is configure this, alter that. Now that everything looks how I want it and it's configured (more or less) how I like it, how can I backup those changes. I mean hard drives can and do die:'(
[13:48] <slawas> "apt-get install atp" What ATP is? :-)
[13:48] <sometux> discozohan,  to format try sudo mkfs -t ext4 /dev/md2
[13:49] <kuttan_> sometux what does this command do ? , I justed executed it on my system
[13:49] <kuttan_>  sudo mkfs -t ext4 /dev/md2
[13:49] <sebsebseb> LinuxNewbie: as far as I know backup isn't that easy with Ubuntu, compared to certain other Linux distros.   However your user settings will be in  /home  which you can move to a seperate partition.  I have never done that myself after doing an install,  I would set one up before I install a Linux distro.  However doing it afterwoulds with Ubuntu probably isn't that difficult.
[13:49] <Ha4poon>  
[13:49] <sebsebseb> !home | LinuxNewbie
[13:49] <kuttan_> and its taking some time ..
[13:49] <discozohan> sometux: oh, i got it, thanks. Raid was created this way: created partitions on all 4 drives, installed raid10, then installed lvm, created volume group and one volume label called "home". Then defined mount point to "/home" and filesystem as "ext4". This way was created raid1, that works correctly ( except on raid1 were also swap partitions )
[13:50] <sebsebseb> !backup | LinuxNewbie
[13:50] <Baram2> Ok, I'm still having issues with WIRED network connection.  Ubuntu 9.10, 64b, problems happened after installing updates from repos (I remember a new kernel, 2.6.32-24).  Tried removing network-manager and using wicd, seemed to work but connection lost 1.5 hours later an unable to recover (including manually via dhclient).  All other machines on this router are working fine, problem computer cannot even get an ip now
[13:51] <kuttan_> why cannot I see files in my directory after runnung that command
[13:51] <slawas> Do you know what is the best assembler compiler for Ubuntu 10.04? (already with linkers, debbugers)
[13:52] <discozohan> sometux: again shit ;( So, after mkfs rows appeared "mountall: mount ext4 [1366] terminated with status 32", "mountall: Filesystem could not be mounted: ext4", "mountall: Skipping mounting ext4 since Plymouth is not available".
[13:53] <discozohan> sometux: some, i am going to reinstall system without lvm at first, to check it out
[13:54] <Baram2> Ok, I'm still having issues with WIRED network connection.  Ubuntu 9.10, 64b, problems happened after installing updates from repos (I remember a new kernel, 2.6.32-24).  Tried removing network-manager and using wicd, seemed to work but connection lost 1.5 hours later an unable to recover (including manually via dhclient).  All other machines on this router are working fine, problem computer cannot even get an ip now
[13:54] <perlsyntax> Does anyone know how to get a soundbaster sound card CA0110IBG to work?
[13:55] <firstgearone> if a hard disk is placed on another ide cable will ubuntu be able to automatically adjust settings for the new cable ide?
[13:55] <cast> sladen: as aka gas, part of GCC
[13:55] <perlsyntax> ?
[13:55] <discozohan> sometux: thanks, anyway ;)
[13:56] <perlsyntax> anyone
[13:56] <TiK> gm
[13:56] <zzzed_> perlsyntax, it should just work, what error are u getting?
[13:56] <VeasMKII> how do i change the scroll speed for the mouse?
[13:57] <perlsyntax> i taken it off mute and it pick the sound card up but no sound.
[13:57] <perlsyntax> odd
[13:57] <perlsyntax> zzzed, any ideas?
[13:57] <alp> hi guys. I'm new to ubuntu. I am trying to install maven bison yacc guile. however it does not exist in my repos. I have a clean 10.4
[13:57] <alp> please recomend me a few repos
[13:58] <razer> hi
[13:58] <zzzed_> perlsyntax, r u sure you are plugged in to the correct output jack?
[13:58] <perlsyntax> yes i sure becuase it work in windows.
[13:58] <TiK> alp: did you google for a ppa?
[13:58] <razer> i cant mount a cd while a wine setup is running
[13:58] <alp> TiK: I do not know what is ppa
[13:58] <zzzed_> perlsyntax, do you have more than 1 sound card, including any built-in
[13:58] <TiK> alp: PPAs are like repos...
[13:58] <razer> mount does not throw any errors but the device is empty and ls says input/output error
[13:58] <sebsebseb> !ppa | alp
[13:58] <perlsyntax> just soundbaster
[13:59] <perlsyntax> zzzed,I try the backport with no luck.
[13:59] <alp> I have installed ubuntu before when it was 7.x
[13:59] <alp> and it had those package
[13:59] <alp> now they split them to ppas eh?
[14:00] <sebsebseb> alp: 7.10?
[14:00] <thune3> firstgearone: if grub and fstab are set to recognize the drive by UUID and it is not the drive set to boot from bios, it's port location won't matter
[14:00] <sebsebseb> alp: ppa's are reasonably new I think
[14:00] <perlsyntax> ?
[14:00] <sebsebseb> alp: or not
[14:00] <alp> sebsebseb: most probably. but 10.04 do not have those repos
[14:00] <sebsebseb> alp: however its more recently that they are becoming rather popualr
[14:00] <thune3> firstgearone: recognize the partitions, i mean
[14:00] <alp> launchpad has a list of latest-active ppa's but not the gratest ones maybe.
[14:00] <sebsebseb> alp: a ppa repo, you would add yourself
[14:00] <alp> which ones do you use?
[14:01] <firstgearone> thune3: thanks
[14:01] <perlsyntax> zzzed?
[14:01] <sebsebseb> alp: personalley I never was a fan of this whole ppa thing, that Ubuntu does
[14:01] <sebsebseb> alp: in fact I think ppa's are a bit of a joke
[14:02] <alp> sebsebseb: where is the greatest ubuntu repo that I can trust?
[14:02] <sebsebseb> alp: plus like the bot warning said, you need to be careful with them, because they can mess stuff up sometimes
[14:02] <zzzed_> perlsyntax, do lspci and paste output
[14:02] <sebsebseb> alp: there probably isn't really one, but medibuntu can be trusted for example
[14:02] <TiK> sebsebseb: ppas kick ass
[14:02] <alp> sebsebseb: I think flex bison are core packages. where can I find them?
[14:03] <perlsyntax> where do i paste it?
[14:03] <alp> they were in default repos a few yrs ago
[14:03] <alp> I remember that.
[14:03] <zzzed_> perlsyntax, paste.ubuntu.com
[14:03] <alp> but I can not understand where they have gone these days
[14:03] <sebsebseb> TiK: not really,  for various reasons, but thats off topic
[14:04] <mfraz74> hello sebsebseb
[14:04] <sebsebseb> mfraz74: hi
[14:04] <perlsyntax> http://paste.ubuntu.com/484950/
[14:04] <perlsyntax> there it is
[14:05] <mfraz74> sebsebseb: recognise your nick from Jono's weekly video stream
[14:05] <sebsebseb> mfraz74: oh
[14:05] <TiK> sebsebseb: thats like the "don't compile the kernel: policy
[14:05] <TiK> "
[14:06] <DoubleString> hey lal
[14:06] <noob_> Hello, does anybody know of any good video editors?
[14:06] <perlsyntax> zzzed, any idea?
[14:06] <sebsebseb> TiK: heh heh @ people who seem to think everything Ubuntu is so great
[14:06] <mfraz74> noob_: there are a few, pitivi, kino, kdenlive, openshot for example
[14:06] <perlsyntax> zzzed,How do i get the alasa drivers?
[14:07] <sebsebseb> TiK: if they provided actasul  updates, that weren't just security,  no need for ppa's, but no that's not how they do it useualley
[14:07] <rastmust> linux... sooo many questions
[14:07] <zzzed_> perlsyntax, ok do cat /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf and paste
[14:07] <hemza> is there a way  to speed up my internet connection
[14:07] <perlsyntax> ok
[14:07] <rastmust> yes, pay the providing company more
[14:07] <TiK> 2.6.35.4-tik :P
[14:08] <hemza> rastmust: i mean which the best configuration of firefox to get the best result
[14:08] <perlsyntax> http://paste.ubuntu.com/484953/ here it is
[14:08] <alp> guys I have a clean 10.04 installation and my mouse cursor sometimes do not move immediately when I try to move it
[14:09] <sometux> hemza, you can use caching
[14:09] <alp> it stays in place and after some while it starts to move
[14:09] <alp> is that a known issue?
[14:09] <alp> sebsebseb: btw medibuntu has 7.x packages. its very old.
[14:09] <perlsyntax> zzzed,i hope i can get it to work.
[14:09] <hemza> sometux: how
[14:09] <albech_> I am experiencing problems with video play back in both Movie Player and VLC. The colors show up all wierd. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4669371/strange-color.png
[14:10] <rastmust> what is the mayor issue with you connection?
[14:10] <alp> anyone issued such a mouse issue?
[14:10] <sometux> hemza, if you have a proxy server, you configure the cache on it
[14:10] <rastmust> hows the mous issue?
[14:10] <imanc> can flash be improved / fixed on ubuntu?
[14:10] <perlsyntax> zzzed,Do i have to download the alasa driver?
[14:11] <alp> which IRC client do you suggest for ubuntu?
[14:11] <imanc> alp - smuxi is decent
[14:11] <albech_> alp, XChat
[14:11] <rastmust> Drive it thru WMware
[14:11] <sebsebseb> alp: Xchat is very popular, but personally I much prefer Konversation :)
[14:11] <zzzed_> perlsyntax, alsa should be installed as part of base install
[14:11] <rastmust> ill had no issues
[14:11] <sometux> hemza, so already visited content will be served form the cache, if requested again
[14:11] <fruitbag`> Guys, what does it mean when a RAID0 cannot be mounted?
[14:11] <perlsyntax> ok
[14:12] <bugaloo> Hi all! Please, how can I turn off that sound after I login on ubuntu 10.04?
[14:12] <alp> sebsebseb: won't installing kde programs on ubuntu slow down??
[14:12] <slawas> Could you tell me why I can't send a massage in ##c++ channel. I write something and I get an answer "Cannot send to channel".
[14:12] <ikonia> slawas: ask in #freenode
[14:12] <ikonia> !register > slawas
[14:13] <zzzed_> perlsyntax, dpkg -l alsa-base will tell you if you have alsa installed
[14:13] <perlsyntax> this is odd
[14:13] <sebsebseb> alp: nope
[14:13] <alp> sebsebseb: personally I have used Pardus distro before. it has kde and many good kde programs. such as yakuake. but I hesitate installing kde programs...
[14:13] <alp> sebsebseb: hmm
[14:13] <sebsebseb> alp: your first  KDE program that you install, will want to put on quite a bit of other KDE stuff, but I think it would only take up about 500MB actsaully
[14:14] <perlsyntax> it is install
[14:14]  * sebsebseb mixing Gnome with some KDE apps since 2004/5
[14:14] <alp> sebsebseb: I know. but I have a different question btw. my mouse does not start to move immediately. it stays in its place for a while (half sec) and moves later. is that normal?
[14:14] <Akaruz> Please somebody help me with update problem........ http://paste.ubuntu.com/484955/
[14:15] <hemza> sometux: thn
[14:15] <zzzed_> perlsyntax, r u sure you dont have an onboard sound device?
[14:15] <fruitbag`> Guys, I have connected a RAID0 configuration. Ubuntu recognises everything but says that it cannot be mounted. Why?
[14:15] <Akaruz> what i should do ?? http://paste.ubuntu.com/484955/
[14:15] <fruitbag`> Anything that I could do?
[14:15] <perlsyntax> i check the bios and didn't see a sound card
[14:15] <ikonia> Akaruz: first of all you have a lot of external repo's in there,
[14:15] <sebsebseb> alp:  A lap top or?
[14:15] <zzzed_> perlsyntax,  ok
[14:16] <perlsyntax> zzzed,How can i tell if i do.
[14:16] <Akaruz> ikonia so what should i do ?
[14:16] <alp> sebsebseb: laptop, using touchpad
[14:16] <sebsebseb> !tochpad | alp
[14:16] <ikonia> Akaruz: the repos that are failing are all external one
[14:16] <sebsebseb> !touchpad | alp
[14:16] <ikonia> Akaruz: stop using external/untrusted repos
[14:16] <Zol> how can I disable weechat to resize the terminal when I start it?
[14:16] <alp> thanks
[14:16] <ikonia> Akaruz: or contact them to resolve the issues with their repos
[14:17] <Akaruz> ikonia how to stop ?
[14:17] <simonlaptop> hi,all,does anyone has a new driver for the wifi on Epc?
[14:17] <sebsebseb> alp: Can't really help much with the mouse.  As for Gnome and KDE really neither is anywhere near perfect, so its good to pick apps from them, and use what you want to use,  in either desktop environment.
[14:17] <ikonia> Akaruz: remove them from your software sources, but depending on what they have updated, that may now be impossible
[14:18] <zzzed_> perlsyntax, 1st off, check if you have any jacks from the motherboard, 2nd check bios for audio devices
[14:18] <Akaruz> ikonia im now in Software Sources.. which one i must delete ?
[14:18] <ikonia> Akaruz: the external ones which are failing
[14:18] <perlsyntax> i check that and be back
[14:19] <alp> sebsebseb: solved. most probably "stop touchpad while typing" was enabled. so you say it is not a big deal to install kde programs and it wont slow down much.
[14:19] <zzzed_> !away
[14:19] <simonlaptop> my epc always goes too slow by wifi.... I thought it might be a problem with the driver of the Ubuntu10.04
[14:19] <Akaruz> ikonia im now in Other Softwares section and there i didn't find failed links....
[14:19] <sebsebseb> alp: How much RAM you got?  How big is your partition?
[14:19] <alp> it is hard to have minimize-close buttons on the left. can we move them to the right?
[14:19] <sebsebseb> alp: and yeah useually mixing apps, go fine
[14:19] <sebsebseb> goes fine
[14:19] <ikonia> Akaruz: the failing repos are the ones erroring in your paste and the ones that are not official ubuntu repos
[14:19] <rastmust> i just did a line of oxycontin, no issues anymore
[14:20] <bazhang> !controls | alp
[14:20] <alp> sebsebseb: 3gb+700mb swap, 15gp partition
 thanks, do you know any good software for converting between video formats?
[14:20] <Akaruz> ikonia so u have any idea how to delete that links..
[14:20] <sebsebseb> alp: well things will go rather fine indeed then
[14:20] <bazhang> !ot > rastmust
[14:20] <ikonia> Akaruz: I've told you how to delete them
[14:20] <rastmust> im preparating a new one
[14:20] <Akaruz> ikonia im in Software Sources.... so what should i do there?
[14:20] <Zeus__> When is the big update coming?
[14:21] <mfraz74> noob_: depends what formats you need to convert, but there's handbrake and winff
[14:21] <sebsebseb> alp: Want some quick app suggestions?
[14:21] <ikonia> Akaruz: remove/uncheck the non-official repos that are failing
[14:21] <rastmust> that made me happy
[14:21] <Akaruz> ikonia how can i notice that they're official or not?
[14:21] <fruitbag`> Guys, are any of you familiar with RAID configurations under Linux?
[14:21] <bazhang> rastmust, stop that
[14:22] <fruitbag`> My RAID configuration is recognised and everything, but when trying to access it, I am told that it cannot be mounted. Why?
[14:22] <ikonia> Akaruz: you added them - the ones which are not the official ubuntu repos
[14:22] <alp> sebsebseb: yes please
[14:22] <ikonia> fruitbag`: hardware/software/fake raid, which one
[14:22] <cast> fruitbag`: so mount /dev/md0 /mnt/tmp/ fails with what error?
[14:22] <Akaruz> ikonia i didn't add anything.. relly
[14:22] <ikonia> you did
[14:22] <ikonia> Akaruz: you added PPA's and external repos
[14:23] <fruitbag`> cast: the RAID shows up
[14:23] <sebsebseb> alp: Log in screen:  KDM   IRC  Konversation   DVD burning  and you could do CD's as well with that.  K3B
[14:23] <fruitbag`> When double clicking on it, I am prompted by: "File cannot be mounted."
[14:23] <fruitbag`> Or something along the same lines.
[14:23] <Akaruz> ikonia sec ill show u screenshot
[14:23] <alp> sebsebseb: used another linux distros before. but it seems ubuntu has changed a little bit.
[14:23] <ikonia> Akaruz: I don't need a screenshot
[14:23] <sebsebseb> alp: and if you want to try an alternative to the nautilus file manager, give Konqueror which is also a nice browser,  and Dolphin a try
[14:23] <alp> I know k3b it is a KDE program eh?
[14:23] <sebsebseb> alp: yes those are KDE programs
[14:23] <alp> I know Dolphin too.
[14:23] <blackdoggy> hey everybody
[14:23] <sebsebseb> alp: all of them
[14:23] <Akaruz> ikonia i just show u software sources.. u can notice there which one is not official
[14:24] <ikonia> Akaruz: I don't need a screen shot
[14:24] <alp> sebsebseb: nautilius is better IMHO.
[14:24] <fruitbag`> Any thoughts, guys?
[14:24] <ikonia> Akaruz: the ones in your pastebin that are FAILING, are unofficial
[14:24] <alp> is there a yakuake alternative for ubuntu?
[14:24] <Akaruz> ikonia yes i understand that exactly but that links aren't in Software Sources.....
[14:24] <sebsebseb> alp: and programs I would personally use, every now and again,  when doing Gnome,  in fact Konversation is one of my most used apps.
[14:24] <blackdoggy> how can i create ISO image of DVD in ubuntu?
[14:24] <ikonia> Akaruz: then remove them from /etc/apt
[14:25] <sebsebseb> alp: and I recommend KDM intead of GDM, since that looks nicer with Ubuntu
[14:25] <fruitbag`> Any thoughts here on my RAID0 configuration?
[14:25] <Akaruz> ikonia sec ill try it now
[14:25] <fruitbag`> Why am I unable to mount it?
[14:25] <alp> sebsebseb: what is gdm
[14:25] <ikonia> fruitbag`: is it software/hardware or fakeraid
[14:25] <sebsebseb> alp: Gnome Display Manager the log in screen
[14:25] <fruitbag`> I'm not certain
[14:25] <ikonia> fruitbag`: what controller does it sit on
[14:25] <alp> sebsebseb: I do not care login screen too much. I just enter my password.
[14:26] <fruitbag`> Since no controller is being used, it's software
[14:26] <sebsebseb> alp: ok :)
[14:26] <fruitbag`> Two SATA hard drives
[14:26] <ikonia> fruitbag`: did you configure the raid using a "bios"
[14:26] <fruitbag`> No
[14:26] <zzzed_> !away > zzzed
[14:26] <fruitbag`> I just connected them
[14:26] <zzzed_> !away > zzzed_
[14:26] <ikonia> fruitbag`: how did you create the array
[14:26] <Akaruz> ikonia sources.list? delete from there?
[14:26] <ikonia> Akaruz: yes
[14:26] <blackdoggy> can some one help  me create iso image  of  DVD
[14:26] <fruitbag`> Ubuntu automatically recognised the array
[14:26] <ikonia> fruitbag`: no - how did you create the array
[14:26] <bazhang> blackdoggy, k9copy or handbrake
[14:27] <fruitbag`> ikonia: I do not know how to reply to that question
[14:27] <blackdoggy> cheers bazhang
[14:27] <adz21c> Hi, I am trying to get my metamodes for twinview set up correctly but I am not having much luck. I have a GTX 470 and plugged into it I have a 17" sony (DFP-0), 22" LG (CRT) and my TV which it is actually plugged in via my Denon AVR1610 av-receiver (DFP-1). What I generally want to do is have DFP-0+CRT as desktop systems but when when I am watching a DVD etc flick over to just DFP-1. I also want CRT to work by itself some times for the
[14:27] <adz21c>  odd game I might play. The closest meta mode configuration I got to is in this xorg.conf with the xrandr output below it http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/3XqNR18K . As you can see it has the desktop systems fine but seems to have no knowledge of my av-receiver. Any ideas?
[14:27] <ikonia> fruitbag`: "what did you do to create the array in the first place"
[14:27] <fruitbag`> I didn't create the array myself.
[14:27] <arvind_khadri> hi, is it possible, that I can have a fixed ip for my eth card from a router which has DHCP.
[14:27] <ikonia> fruitbag`: who did
[14:28] <fruitbag`> I cannot say
[14:28] <adz21c> arvind_khadri: yes
[14:28] <ikonia> fruitbag`: why ?
[14:28] <fruitbag`> Because I don't know
[14:28] <arvind_khadri> adz21c, how do I achieve it?
[14:28] <ikonia> fruitbag`: ok - was it created in windows or linux ?
[14:28] <ikonia> fruitbag`: does it contain a windows or linux file system
[14:28] <blackdoggy> how will i enable system sound in ubuntu 10.04?
[14:28] <blackdoggy> its not like previous version
[14:28] <fruitbag`> ikonia: apparently, it is the Linux file system
[14:28] <perlsyntax> zzzed,I back
[14:29] <adz21c> arvind_khadri: it depends on your router. However for mine I go into its DHCP settings and it has an option to reserve IPs for certain card MAC addresses
[14:29] <arvind_khadri> adz21c, am using a belkin
[14:29] <fruitbag`> "Partition type: Linux RAID autodetect
[14:29] <fruitbag`> (0xfd)"
[14:29] <adz21c> arvind_khadri: got a model?
[14:29] <fruitbag`> They are both recognised as healthy partitions in the disk utility
[14:29] <perlsyntax> ???
[14:30] <blackdoggy> can anyone help to enable system sound in ubuntu 10.04?
[14:30] <Akaruz> ikonia Thank u big ;) i did it
[14:30] <fruitbag`> Any thoughts?
[14:31] <arvind_khadri> adz21c, no :(
[14:31] <adz21c> arvind_khadri: hmm, well they'll have more than one model but i see if i can find a manual and hope it is similar :-) gimmie a mo
[14:31] <fruitbag`> So, why is it that the RAID array cannot be mounted/
[14:32] <nikolam> hmm, can vnc transmit Clipboard?
[14:32] <fruitbag`> I am told that there are "not enough components" to start the RAID array
[14:33] <fruitbag`> What components would I need?
[14:33] <helper> sometux, sorry, but can you tell me a webmail install for my mail server ?
[14:33] <Akaruz> ikonia i have deleted and updating now aswell but now i can't find packages  im doing apt-cache search wine-doors and it can't find.. (((
[14:34] <ikonia> Akaruz: because you have deleted the repos with it in
[14:34] <Akaruz> ikonia mm so what should i do now? :(
[14:35] <Akaruz> ikonia can i download new package info?
[14:35] <ikonia> Akaruz: re-add the repo with it in
[14:36] <Akaruz> repo wine ?
[14:36] <Akaruz> ikonia wine's repo?
[14:36] <xzil0> Hey guys. Is there any way to mount floppy image which will be used in virtual box like floppy drive?
[14:36] <ikonia> no, the repo that you had in before that contained wine-doors
[14:36] <adz21c> arvind_khadri: does this look like yours? http://www.belkin.com/support/article/?lid=en&pid=f5d7230-4&aid=5999&scid=0
[14:37] <BluesKaj> howdy
[14:37] <Riqoshea> Apologies as I am new to IRC and an Ubuntu newbie.  I installed a new video card, the machine boots and displays the BIOS bootscreen and the start of the Ubuntu boot but then the video disappears with a message from my monitor saying there is now video out.  How can I force the machine to boot to a command line and not boot X?
[14:38] <Akaruz> ikonia how to add it ? sorry im new on linux .....
[14:38] <fruitbag`> So, guys, I am told that there are not enough components to start the RAID array
[14:38] <xzil0> Is there any way to mount floppy image which will be used in virtual box like floppy drive?
[14:38] <fruitbag`> Which components would these be?
[14:38] <ikonia> Akaruz: you had already added it - the repo was down so you just removed it
[14:38] <boo_> hello
[14:38] <boonet> Hi!
[14:38] <cast> xzil0: sure. losetup
[14:38] <boo_> quiet you
[14:39] <xzil0> cast, tnx man
[14:39] <Akaruz> ikonia so now how can install wine-doors?
[14:39] <boo_> why doesn't sudo work with on girl friend 0.1?
[14:40] <boo_> :D
[14:40] <ikonia> boo_: please stop messing around
[14:40] <ikonia> Akaruz: think it through
[14:40] <ikonia> Akaruz: you had the repo that contains wine door - it's not working, you removed it it
[14:40] <Akaruz> ikonia yes so can i find new repo ? workable
[14:41] <ikonia> Akaruz: that's up to you to look for
[14:41] <fruitbag`> Any thoughts, guys?
[14:41] <BluesKaj> Riqoshea, even if it boots to X , ctrl+alt+ F1 , will give the tty prompt , ctrl+alt+F7 will return you to X.
[14:41] <fruitbag`> What components do I need to access the RAID array?
[14:42] <Guest22962> how can I confirm if I have 32 or 64 bit?
[14:42] <ikonia> Guest22962: uname -a
[14:42] <ikonia> Guest22962: please paste the output
[14:43] <Guest22962> if it's i686 does that mean 32 bit?
[14:43] <ikonia> Guest22962: correct
[14:43] <Guest22962> thanks
[14:43] <Akaruz> guys where i can find a fresh and official repositories?
[14:43] <hemza> is virtualbox good for ubuntu
[14:43] <ikonia> Akaruz: you already have the official repos
[14:43] <jrib> Guest22962: that means your install is 32bit, not that your processor isn't capable of 64bit
[14:44] <Akaruz> ikonia i mean for wine...
[14:44] <Guest22962> jrib, I caught that much
[14:44] <Akaruz> ikonia becouse i can't find it :(
[14:44] <jrib> Guest22962: k
[14:44] <ikonia> Akaruz: there isn't an official repo for winedoors
[14:44] <pago> ciao
[14:44] <pago> !list
[14:44] <Akaruz> ikonia so u have any normal repo for wine-doors?
[14:45] <alp> guys do we have something alternative to Yakuake?=,
[14:45] <Guest22962> anyone know if I can pull the latest and greatest open office from a repo? or do I need the .deb?
[14:45] <BluesKaj> Riqoshea,do the commands after booting into X
[14:45] <jrib> alp: tilda
[14:45] <bazhang> alp, guake
[14:45] <Akaruz> ikonia or only 1 repo for winedoors?
[14:45] <mfraz74> Guest22962: which version of ubuntu are you running?
[14:46] <bazhang> Akaruz, try #winehq
[14:46] <perlsyntax> the alasa is not pick up my sound card what do i  do?
[14:46] <Akaruz> bazhan ah mate i tried 100 times but nobody answering... everybody sleeping there....
[14:46] <Guest22962> mfraz74, not sure, but how to check?
[14:46] <Akaruz> bazhang ah mate i tried 100 times but nobody answering... everybody sleeping there....
[14:46] <perlsyntax> ?
[14:46] <bazhang> Akaruz, then be patient. wine-doors is handled there
[14:46] <alp> guys how can I change my name?
[14:46] <alp> not username, I mean the name next to the calendar
[14:47] <wizzle> do anybody know about music/audio editor?
[14:47] <Akaruz> bazhang sure im waiting....
[14:47] <Guest22962> alp, you'd have to create a new user
[14:47] <erUSUL> alp: System>Preferences<About me
[14:47] <Guest22962> or that
[14:47] <bazhang> wizzle, audacity
[14:47] <perlsyntax> My sound baster are not being pick up what do i do?
[14:47] <mfraz74> Guest22962: you could open terminal window and type uname -a
[14:47] <Riqoshea> BluesKaj thank you I will give this a try. At what point in the boot up sequence do I use these commands?
[14:47] <alp> erUSUL: there is no name option there
[14:47] <fruitbag`> Any thoughts, guys?
[14:48] <Guest22962> mfraz74, it doesn't tell me the version of ubuntu though, only the kernel
[14:48] <jrib> alp: it's probably easier for you to just create a new account
[14:48] <whysoserious> Like a siren in my head that always threatens to repeat
[14:48] <Akaruz> alp where u from ?
[14:48] <perlsyntax> hello
[14:48] <fruitbag`> Guys, I have a RAID array here and I am told that I need certain components to access it
[14:48] <fruitbag`> What could I do?
[14:48] <BluesKaj> Riqoshea, read my post above
[14:48] <alp> jrib: I do not mean the username (/home/xxx) just the full name.
[14:48] <Guest22962> whysoserious, he's from switzerland duh
[14:48] <mfraz74> Guest22962: what kernel version?
[14:48] <perlsyntax> ?
[14:48] <bazhang> Guest22962, lsb_release -a
[14:48] <Guest22962> or who ever asked
[14:48] <jrib> alp: oh, check your admin menu for "users and groups"
[14:48] <bazhang> !ot > whysoserious
[14:48] <erUSUL> alp: oops. use « chfn  » in comand line then
[14:48] <Riqoshea> Thank you and sorry I missed you earlier post, amazed at how quick and helpful this is.
[14:49] <KrunchyMonk> list irc.coldfront.net
[14:49] <fruitbag`> Guys, what could I do here?
[14:49] <perlsyntax> My sound card not being pick up why is that?
[14:49] <Guest22962> mfraz74, bazhang, I'm running 9.10
[14:49] <whysoserious> You mean: Do not be off-topic
[14:49] <bazhang> whysoserious, correct.
[14:49] <perlsyntax> hello anyone alive.
[14:49] <Angel_Devil> ciao
[14:49] <whysoserious> Allright
[14:49] <Angel_Devil> ,
[14:49] <zzzed_> perlsyntax, you dont have internal right? and is your SoundBlaster pci or usb?
[14:49] <Guest22962> mfraz74, does that mean I can download the latest and greatest OOo?
[14:50] <Angel_Devil> ho usato scanmodem
[14:50] <perlsyntax> i think pic not sure
[14:50] <perlsyntax> zzzed,Not sure why not being pick up for.
[14:50] <perlsyntax> it off muted.
[14:51] <ibrahim-kasem> facebook is blocked by my isp, is there that i can to open instead of searching for proxies ?
[14:51] <zzzed_> perlsyntax, do 'cat /etc/group | grep audio' and see if you are in the audio group
[14:51] <jrib> ibrahim-kasem: get a different isp
[14:51] <Guest22962> perlsyntax, do you have a laptop or desktop?
[14:51] <perlsyntax> desktop
[14:51] <ibrahim-kasem> jrib I can't dude
[14:51] <mfraz74> Guest22962: i don't think so, what version of openoffice do you currently have?
[14:52] <perlsyntax> audio:x:29:pulse,perlsyntax
[14:52] <imanc> i hate flash in ubuntu :(
[14:52] <Guest22962> mfraz74, OOo 2.4 but I want 3.2
[14:52] <perlsyntax> zzzed,look like i am in the group.
[14:53] <jrib> Guest22962: use lucid then
[14:53] <zzzed_> perlsyntax, what pgm u using to test sound?
[14:53] <jrib> Guest22962: or... https://edge.launchpad.net/~openoffice-pkgs/+archive/ppa but you're better off just upgrading to lucid
[14:53] <perlsyntax> what you mean
[14:53] <karthee> Hi .. I ve used vim .. I wanted to start with emacs .. when I type emacs filename it opens in GUI .. How do I open it in CLI ?
[14:53] <mfraz74> Guest22962: https://launchpad.net/~openoffice-pkgs/+archive/ppa
[14:54] <zzzed_> perlsyntax, what are you executing that produces no sound
[14:54] <erUSUL> karthee: emacs -nw filename
[14:54] <Guest22962> jrib, in all reality, shouldn't one be able to use the version of OOo without having to upgrade/re-install the OS?
[14:54] <Guest22962> mfraz74, is that a repo?
[14:54] <BluesKaj> !proxy | ibrahim-kasem
[14:54] <jrib> Guest22962: of course you can.  But it's sub-optimal as its not in the official repositories
[14:54] <perlsyntax> youtube
[14:54] <mfraz74> Guest22962: it's a PPA - personal package archive
[14:55] <karthee> erUSUL: okay thanks
[14:55] <Guest22962> jrib, define "sub-optimal"?
[14:55] <jrib> Guest22962: "not in the official repositories"
[14:55] <ibrahim-kasem> BluesKaj, the bot is having a nap ZzZzzZZzzZz
[14:55] <ibrahim-kasem> !proxy
[14:55] <Guest22962> mfraz74, does the ppa cover dependancies?
[14:55] <fruitbag`> eAny thoughts, guys?
[14:55] <mfraz74> Guest22962: if you want it in the official repos you'll have to upgrade to 10.04
[14:55] <BluesKaj> !info proxy
[14:55] <mfraz74> Guest22962: it should do
[14:56] <zzzed_> perlsyntax, try System->Preferences->Sound and pick a different sound and see if you hear anything
[14:56] <fruitbag`> Is anyone here good with RAID configurations?
[14:56] <perlsyntax> i go to sound  pref and it see no sound card in there.
[14:56] <BluesKaj> !tor | ibrahim-kasem
[14:56] <Guest22962> jrib, that doesn't say much. like, would functionality be missing would there be a problem with dependancies etc?
[14:56] <discozohan> will be any difference, if i'll make raid1 ( for system ) and raid10 with 4hdd ( for /home ) or only raid 10 with 6hdd for everyting ?
[14:56] <jrib> fruitbag`: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[14:56] <Guest22962> mfraz74, thank you
[14:56] <alp> guys how can I make guake to open at startup
[14:56] <alp> I mean initialize at startup?
[14:56] <Angel_Devil> mi aiutate
[14:56] <Angel_Devil> ?
[14:56] <perlsyntax> no sound
[14:56] <cast> discozohan: how would you do raid 10 with 6hdd?
[14:57] <Angel_Devil> ikonia mi aiuti?
[14:57] <erUSUL> alp: Sytem>Preferences>intial apps/starup apps
[14:57] <ikonia> Angel_Devil: what ?
[14:57] <bazhang> !it | Angel_Devil
[14:57] <discozohan> cast: oh, forgot to mention, software raid
[14:57] <perlsyntax> i wish it would work.
[14:57] <Angel_Devil> ah sorry :(
[14:57] <fruitbag`> jrib: well, I've connected a SATA RAID array to my Ubuntu machine. I am told that there are not enough components.
[14:57] <discozohan> case: the problem is i am unable to do raid 1 + raid 10 ( raid 10 can't load ), so i am going to do 1 raid 10
[14:57] <fruitbag`> I cannot mount the drive.
[14:57] <fruitbag`> What could I do
[14:57] <fruitbag`> I want to access the RAID
[14:58] <jrib> fruitbag`: ask the channel, not me
[14:58] <FloodBot3> fruitbag`: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:58] <corpsicle> ugh, uninstalled gnome-keyring yesterday ( which solved my svn problems ), and now when i boot up i have no wifi stuffs in the menus >_<
[14:58] <cast> discozohan: hmm, 3 RAID1s in RAID0....well, you don't happen to have a hot spare do you
[14:59] <jrib> Guest22962: it does say much... for one, if a package is in official repositories (as opposed to a ppa) it's likely to be better quality, get more exposure, and more likely to be supported in bug reports
[14:59] <fruitbag`> Any thoughts here?
[14:59] <perlsyntax> maybe time to find a differnt linux
[14:59] <discozohan> case: not, i don't ;) its home server. So i want to know, what is so bad in raid 10 with 6 hdd for whole system
[14:59] <zzzed_> perlsyntax,  do 'lsmod | grep snd" and paste
[14:59] <jrib> Guest22962: if something exists in official repositories, I would never use a ppa
[14:59] <bazhang> !helpme | fruitbag`
[15:00] <corpsicle> hmm, my "networking" menu item is gone from administration
[15:00] <corpsicle> what gives ?
[15:00] <Guest22962> jrib, that doesn't tell me why.... is there a situation appropriate to use a ppa?
[15:01] <jrib> Guest22962: yes, when something is not in the official repositories and you have a good reason to trust the author
[15:01] <BluesKaj> !anon-proxy | ibrahim-kasem , dunno if this is what you need
[15:01] <oCean_> corpsicle: you can add/remove menu items by right-click on the menu > edit menus
[15:01] <corpsicle> oCean_: yes but why did it go away ?
[15:01] <oCean_> corpsicle: have no clue
[15:01] <fruitbag`> Alright
[15:02] <BluesKaj> ibrahim-kasem, anyway it's in synaptic
[15:02] <Guest22962> On that note, how do I upgrade from 9.10 to 10.04?
[15:02] <jrib> !upgrade > Guest22962
[15:03] <TofuAttack> WHATS UP HOMEBOYS
[15:04] <TofuAttack> what is ubuntu
[15:04] <jrib> !ubuntu | TofuAttack
[15:04] <corpsicle> hmm
[15:04] <corpsicle> looks like gnome-network-admin was removed
[15:05] <jrib> Guest22962: practically, you're probably fine with the ppa if you really don't want to upgrade.  But eventually you're going to upgrade anyway and it's better to use official repositories for the reasons above, so I would just upgrade to 10.04 and be done with it
[15:06] <BluesKaj> TofuAttack, did you understand the answer to your question ?
[15:07] <eanousse> upgraded to lucid and now I am missing boot logo. I only got text "ubuntu 10.04" and the orange dots. How do I replace the text with the logo?
[15:08] <om26er> eanousse, do you have the nvidia driver installed?
[15:08] <qwd> eanousse: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2#Theming
[15:08] <eanousse> om26er: yes
[15:08] <om26er> eanousse, from Harware Drivers?
[15:08] <eanousse> om26er: yeps
[15:09] <coz_> eanousse,  I have just the text also ...although I installed edubuntu... is it off center and large or centered and normal looking?
[15:09] <om26er> eanousse, follow this tutorial. it will work fine. http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Fix-the-Big-and-Ugly-Plymouth-Logo-in-Ubuntu-10-04-140810.shtml
[15:09] <eanousse> coz_: centered and normal
[15:09] <eanousse> om26er: thanks
[15:16] <fellipe_brasil> Hi friends, I have vbox in ubuntu 10.04 and a windows xp sp3 inside the vbox. I shared some dir in ubuntu with samba and I access it in windows, however, if I am not conected to internet or to a router, I don't have an ip address, so I can't access this share in windows because there is no IP address to point it to... any idea?
[15:17] <karlo> any suggestions for a program in you can see processor temperature ?
[15:17] <bazhang> karlo, conky with sensors
[15:17] <Muelli> !lm-sensor | karlo
[15:17] <Muelli> !lm-sensors | karlo
[15:17] <bazhang> !sensors > karlo
[15:18] <imran23> Hey
[15:18] <fellipe_brasil> ?
[15:18] <imran23> Does anyone here use Lucid Lynx on mac??
[15:18] <imran23> I need some help with it :P
[15:18] <jrib> imran23: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[15:20] <imran23> How do i get the appropriate macbook pro drivers for lucid lynx. I tried downloading from System>>Administration>>hardware drivers. But it did not work. I still cannot adjust brightness and sound does not work
[15:20] <jrib> imran23: have you checked the mactel documentation on help.ubuntu.com?
[15:21] <imran23> no, but I will now. Thank you :)
[15:21] <ibrahim-kasem> sliman, hey
[15:22] <zulax> the windows share is mounted and i can see in the desktop, but how do i get into it from the terminal
[15:22] <ibrahim-kasem> imran23, dude what do you mean by it did not work >
[15:22] <ibrahim-kasem> ?
[15:23] <zulax> the windows share is not mounted in /media as well
[15:23]  * ironcore is frustrated by Adium's IRC
[15:23] <zulax> using terminal, how can i get into the windows share(its already mounted and i see it in the desktop)
[15:24] <lq> fellipe_brasil, maybe you can using NAT at xp's network,then visit \\10.0.2.2 to access the Host smb share.
[15:24] <alp> zulax mount it then
[15:24] <zzzed_> zulax, is your windows partition /dev/sda1 ?
[15:25] <fellipe_brasil> lq: this is what I am thinking,
[15:25] <alp> where can I configure number of desktops?
[15:25] <zulax> zzzed_, its a remote windows server
[15:25] <fellipe_brasil> lq: and I am going to test it right now...
[15:25] <zulax> i am on ubuntu
[15:25] <fellipe_brasil> :)
[15:25] <happosade> Sshhhi.
[15:25] <bazhang> alp, bottom panel desktop-switcher right click
[15:25] <lq> fellipe_brasil, it works on my computer well
[15:25] <zulax> and from desktop i can navigate the windows share
[15:25] <zzzed_> zulax, oh
[15:25] <happosade> (Sorry, falsepost)
[15:25] <fellipe_brasil> lq: really? even if you are not connected ?
[15:26] <lq> fellipe_brasil, yes
[15:26] <fellipe_brasil> or, even if you don't have ip address on external interface?
[15:27] <lq> fellipe_brasil, just have a try,you will get the answer,good luck!
[15:27] <fellipe_brasil> thanks!
[15:27] <alexreyes> list
[15:27] <alexreyes> !list
[15:27] <bazhang> !it | alexreyes
[15:30] <cpf_> Hi, have grub issue, only have windows and '/' partitions, '/' is ext4, but grub cannot boot it... Any way how to fix? I'm currently in chroot on the system.
[15:31] <misiek> `join #ubuntu-pl
[15:31] <Guest54711> Hello, I would like to install grub on a partition where it was not. How can I do that (from a live CD) ?
[15:32] <administrator> fv
[15:33] <cpf_> Guest54711, You should be able to do this with a live cd, execute 'grub-install <device>', <device> can be anything like /dev/sda or /dev/sda1.
[15:33] <Guest54711> cpf_: thank you, I'll try
[15:34] <xzil0> Any1 learned about buffer overflows from this tut http://insecure.org/stf/mudge_buffer_overflow_tutorial.html ?  i tried to follow this tut on ubuntu 10.04 but i'm not getting "Segmentation fault" and gdb is not working like in tutorial. should i get some older linux distro or it can be done in ubuntu 10.04? I tried ubuntu 5.04 and i'm not getting "Segmentation fault". pls help :(
[15:35] <cpf_> Can anyone help me with my grub ext4 boot issue?
[15:36] <qwd> cpf_: not unless you explain what the problem is.
[15:37] <cpf_> qwd, Already, but here it is again: I have a laptop with windows and ubuntu, but it was not dual boot, so I did grub-install /dev/sda, but now it doesn't boot into ubuntu anymore. I suspect because '/' (the only partition) is ext4
[15:38] <alp> guys ubuntu makes my CPU fan to run too much. obviously much more than Windows7.
[15:38] <xzil0> cpf_, is the /dev/sda1 your ext4 partition. if its not whats the number
[15:38] <alp> my cpu is about 3-5% on '>top'
[15:38] <cpf_> xzil0, True, /dev/sda1 is linux ext5.
[15:39] <xzil0> cpf_,  then try grub-install /dev/sda1
[15:39] <xzil0> Any1 learned about buffer overflows from this tut http://insecure.org/stf/mudge_buffer_overflow_tutorial.html ?  i tried to follow this tut on ubuntu 10.04 but i'm not getting "Segmentation fault" and gdb is not working like in tutorial. should i get some older linux distro or it can be done in ubuntu 10.04? I tried ubuntu 5.04 and i'm not getting "Segmentation fault". pls help :(
[15:40] <cpf_> xzil0, Because gcc (i think) optimizes the overflow out
[15:40] <cpf_> xzil0, Try with damn vulnerable linux
[15:40] <xzil0> ok tnx
[15:41] <imran23> Hi, I triple booted my macbook pro using the desktop edition of ubuntu, now brightness and sound is not working. Was I supposed to use the netbook edition?? Also, I have a dell laptop, should I use desktop or netbook edition. And what is live CD???
[15:41] <TiK> xzil0: look t the data on that stuff
[15:41] <TiK> at
[15:41] <xzil0> buffer is 4028 when i changed the 4028 to 40280 in for loop i got segmentation fault.
[15:41] <TiK> 95
[15:42] <lq> xzil0, add a line "buffer[2048]='\0'" after the FOR circle.
[15:42] <alp> guys ubuntu makes my CPU fan to run too much. obviously much more than Windows7.
[15:43] <alp> any ideas?
[15:43] <xzil0> i tryed a lot of things like that, but gcc is making the bigger buffer like a counter measure
[15:43] <acidflash> i have seen this before with backtrack-linux
[15:43] <alp> + my vim creates prints chars when I use arrow keys in INSERT MODE.
[15:43] <alp> thats interesting and unexpected behavior.
[15:43] <jneves> alp: try installing and running powertop that will help you identify the causes
[15:44] <cpf_> Grub says error 22: No such partition
[15:44] <alp> jneves: thanks.
[15:45] <alp> guys in which repo can I find virtualbox? my apt-get install vir..<tab><tab> autocompletes many virtualbox packages but it can't install any.
[15:45] <TiK> question: I have a dual core.. is there any way to hshut off 1 core when not doing anything or does it do it automaticlly ?
[15:45] <imran23> Hi, I triple booted my macbook pro using the desktop edition of ubuntu, now brightness and sound is not working. Was I supposed to use the netbook edition?? Also, I have a dell laptop, should I use desktop or netbook edition. And what is live CD???
[15:45] <jrib> alp: can't install any?  virtualbox-ose is the one in the official repositories
[15:45] <TiK> jrib: go to their website and get 3.2
[15:45] <sacarlson> cpf_: you didn't change your bios setting to boot something other /dev/sda did you (hd,0,1)?
[15:45] <Gotiniens> fujisan in the house?
[15:46] <mamed_> hi
[15:46] <jrib> imran23: was the mactel documentation not helpful?
[15:46] <jneves> alp: did you try to install virtualbox-ose?
[15:46] <cpf_> sacarlson, No, it's default hd(0) boot...
[15:46] <imran23> I did not get what they meant by "liveCD" and also, should i use netbook edition on laptops?/
[15:47] <sacarlson> cpf_:  is this a new install and what ubuntu version is this?
[15:47] <alp> jneves: thanks. btw I have applied suggestions of powertop however my wakeups-from-idle/sec line is still red.
[15:48] <cpf_> sacarlson, New install, version 10.04
[15:48] <jrib> imran23: if you want it use it, you don't have to though
[15:48] <mamed_> i tried installing ubuntu 0604 on my computer but first i got error saying that Grub wasnt installed and now i get "Input/output error during read on /dev/hda"
[15:48] <jrib> imran23: what macbook pro do you have?
[15:48] <alp> jneves: top cause is iwl3495
[15:48] <imran23> the unibody, early 2010. Not sure which version..
[15:49] <^^MoYzY^^> hey i have  BCM4322 what should i do for packet injection .. etc? ;[
[15:49] <jrib> mamed_: there's no such thing as ubuntu 0604.  Can you be more specific?
[15:49] <jrib> imran23: the documentatio tells you how to find the version
[15:49] <mamed_> drappe drake
[15:49] <sacarlson> cpf_: well time to boot the live boot cd then.  what partition are you booting.  oh and you did install ubuntu after window didn't you?
[15:49] <jrib> imran23: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro
[15:49] <bazhang> ^^MoYzY^^, what are you trying to accomplish
[15:49] <jrib> mamed_: that's too old, get a more recent version (like 10.04 lucid)
[15:49] <jneves> alp: if you're using the wireless that's normal
[15:50] <TiK> moyzy wants to crack WEP
[15:50] <jneves> alp: that's the wireless driver
[15:50] <mamed_> ya i have that here as well but it freezes during the install
[15:50] <^^MoYzY^^> wpa :)
[15:50] <TiK> good luck
[15:50] <bazhang> ^^MoYzY^^, wrong channel
[15:50] <jneves> alp: are you using swap?
[15:50] <jrib> mamed_: did you checksum your download? and burn?
[15:50] <alp> jneves: hmm you're right. thanks a lot
[15:50] <mamed_> ya its a cd
[15:50] <jrib> !who | mamed_
[15:50] <alp> jneves: I have setup 700mb for swap upon installation. hope it is still enabled.
[15:51] <Going> dddd
[15:51] <cpf_> im just going to reinstall
[15:51] <jrib> mamed_: what does "ya its a cd" mean in relation to my two questions?
[15:51] <sacarlson> cpf_: did you use wubi?
[15:51] <jneves> alp: install sysstat and check with iostat if the disk is constantly being used
[15:51] <^^MoYzY^^> so you cant just give me the info
[15:52] <alp> jneves: okay
[15:52] <jneves> alp: if you have flash install, also install a flash blocker, or that will be a drain
[15:52] <bazhang> ^^MoYzY^^, no. dont ask as cracking wifi is offtopic
[15:52] <alp> jneves: you mean adobe flash?
[15:52] <jneves> alp: yeah
[15:52] <cpf_> Aynhow, we're going to do a reinstall.
[15:52] <^^MoYzY^^> sry bazhang im new to this ;)
[15:52] <cpf_> Thanks for the help all!
[15:53] <TiK> ^^MoYzY^^: oay for your internet access
[15:53] <jneves> alp: let's just say that the linux version is less optimized than it should be
[15:53] <jrib> !md5sums | mamed_
[15:53] <alp> jneves: hmm I have flash plugin in my firefox but no flash is running now.
[15:53] <alp> jneves: how can I interpret results of iostat
[15:53] <mamed_> ok
[15:53] <jneves> alp: if you don't have a flash blocker, install it now - you'll notice the difference
[15:54] <^^MoYzY^^> yeah yay if u people know something about this nothing stops u to tell me in private ;)
[15:54] <^^MoYzY^^> but ur cruel :D
[15:54] <^^MoYzY^^> yay for me
[15:54] <jneves> alp: iostat should be going to 0 regularly
[15:54] <alp> jneves: is that flash blocker a firefox plugin (btw here is the result: http://paste.ubuntu.com/484991/)
[15:54] <jneves> alp: if not, the disk is being constantly used - which is a heating source
[15:55] <alp> jneves: which data here shows the disk reads? http://paste.ubuntu.com/484991/
[15:55] <jneves> alp: apt-get install xul-ext-flashblock
[15:56] <jneves> alp: run it with something like: iostat 5
[15:56] <jneves> alp: and check the differences
[15:56] <discozohan> if i want to create another raid, for "/home", for example, should i choose "primary" or "logical" partitions type ?
[15:57] <cast> primary
[15:57] <alp> jneves: Blk_read is 0 but Blk_wrt/s always >40. there is a Blk_wrtn (I do not know what is that) tps is relatively small about 1
[15:57] <discozohan> ok, and another question ;) bootable flag = off, yes ?
[15:57] <discozohan> bootable only for partitions, that has /boot ?
[15:58] <cast> bootable doesn't matter
[15:58] <jneves> alp: that means something is writing a lot - run free and paste the result
[15:59] <alp> jneves: http://paste.ubuntu.com/484995/ thats too much. It was its 1/3 on another distro with KDE I've used
[15:59] <alp> jneves: free -m 's +- cache used 1140, it was about 400 on another heavy desktop distro
[16:00] <jneves> alp: if you want to know what's using the memory run top and press 'm' to order per memory usage
[16:00] <jneves> alp: but it's not swap doing the writing, so you must have some application constantly writing to disk at the moment - try to find out which
[16:01] <smacfarl> I noticed that ATI released the 10.8 drivers this week. I have whatever 10.4 has installed for me. Should I download and upgrade the package?
[16:01] <alp> jneves: RES SHR VIRT <- which one shows the real usage?
[16:01] <zerothis> so, I fix all my opengl problems by running the latest meekrat kernel. no I can't see my X cursor. any game or app with its own cursor works. I currently have neko chasing my invisible cursor. this is not very accurate however.
[16:01] <alp> jneves: it seems like it is firefox but it has no writes  now imho
[16:01] <jneves> alp: RES+SHR, with SHR being reused by several applications
[16:01] <bazhang> zerothis, #ubuntu+1 for meerkat
[16:02] <weson> hi,all~today i edited /var/lib/locales/supported.d/local,add zh_CN.GB18030 GB18030,and ran locale-gen,after restart,locale is become zh_CN.GB18030,but that's some problem,now i want to rollback,but i find i can't do it ~
[16:02] <zerothis> bazhang: sorry, I should mention I'm running karmic
[16:02] <jneves> alp: try closing firefox and running iostat - firefox is contantly writing stuff to disk - and some addons make it even worst
[16:02] <smacfarl> will the ati drivers handle the upgrade or do I have to uninstall and reinstall?
[16:02] <weson> anyone can help ??
[16:03] <jneves> alp: also check dropbox, bittorrent clients and things like that
[16:04] <alp> jneves: I have no one of them. thanks for help. running CPU fan at high frequencies was a problem on my older distro.
[16:04] <stercor> I can get ssh to work but not scp.
[16:05] <alp> jneves: here it is:  50.0% (  inf)   [kernel scheduler] Load balancing tick
[16:05] <alp> top cause for wakeuop
[16:06] <kellawe> I'm missing some packets after upgrade to lucid (e.g. indicator-applications, indicator-sound, indicator-me and who knows what else). Any way to ensure that all default packages are installed?
[16:06] <sacarlson> stercor: I'm not sure what the diff is but you can use nautilus with ssh to move files Places>Conect to server>ssh
[16:06] <jneves> alp: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1390055 - check this thread and links
[16:06] <stercor> Nautilus, eh?
[16:07] <sacarlson> stercor: yup
[16:07] <sacarlson> stercor: that's the file browser
[16:07] <drsnake> hi
[16:07] <stercor> Are you familiar with the scp command line?
[16:07] <sacarlson> stercor: yes
[16:08] <EbanSoul> when I try to install games through Playonlinux Ubuntu is telling me the dir is full when it has more then 149 gig free space. Any ideals why that would be happening ?
[16:08] <stercor> sacarlson: That's what I wanted to see!
[16:09] <stercor> sacarlson: ``scp ted@71.76.205.227:kara.asc'' and I get the usage message.
[16:10] <blink> is there a way to determine if someone in Empathy is online or not using Conky?
[16:10] <biomass> I just installed u10.4 and activated the restricted nvidia drivers. When X starts I now have what looks like a horizontal grill across my whole screen, every other line is slightly darker/lighter. can I get rid of the stripes somehow ?
[16:10] <sacarlson> stercor: you have no destination see http://www.hypexr.org/linux_scp_help.php  for examples
[16:11] <stercor> sacarlson: Um, duh...I'll try it.
[16:11] <kellawe> biomass: only on boot or all the time?
[16:11] <sacarlson> stercor: it's the same as copy cp /thispath/thisfile.txt /desitnation_path/destpath.txt
[16:11] <stercor> sacarlson: Guess what?
[16:12] <alp> jneves: yeah already checked it but it seems there is no solution.
[16:12] <alp> some people opened bug tickets on launchpad.
[16:12] <stercor> sacarlson: Thanks!
[16:12] <biomass> kellawe: I only see it in X and it wasn't like this before I activated the restricted drivers. I've got a 120hz tft screen which was detected as 60hz with open drivers, now after turning the restricted drivers on it correctly detects the 120hz.
[16:12] <jneves> alp: check those - I didn't check the details on the bug reports
[16:13] <kellawe> biomass: it might be this bug: http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Fix-the-Big-and-Ugly-Plymouth-Logo-in-Ubuntu-10-04-140810.shtml
[16:13] <stercor> sacarlson: I misinterpreted the file1 ... file2 syntax.
[16:14] <sacarlson> stercor: nautilus is easier
[16:14] <biomass> kellawe: I did see a larger logo so you might be on to something =)
[16:15] <mobal> hi all'
[16:16] <alp> jneves: nothing resolved on bug tickets. :(
[16:18] <jneves> alp: the only thing I can think of is trying to disable hyperthreading to see if it makes a difference
[16:18] <jneves> alp: other than that, I'm lost - sorry
[16:19] <alp> jneves: how can we do that?
[16:19] <alp> wait a sec. I will restart firefox
[16:19] <biomass> kellawe: looking at the page I can't see any indication that it would change the behaviour of X
[16:20] <jjmartin> which vi makes no sense to me
[16:20] <jneves> alp: do you now how to edit a grub line?
[16:20] <jjmartin> why is vi mapped in such a strange way
[16:20] <kellawe> biomass: with X you mean exactly what?
[16:21] <delinquentme> Does anyone have an idea of how to get the Mod key ( WINDOWS key ) to work when using commands on an ubuntu system?
[16:21] <biomass> kellawe: I mean what displayed from the login screen and forward
[16:21] <delinquentme> ive got it set to mod + 1,2,3 to switch between desktops ... and its not working
[16:21] <jjmartin> delinquentme, <Mod4>
[16:22] <jjmartin> for my laptops
[16:22] <kellawe> biomass: ok. well that page actually affects only what comes before the login. so it probably doesn't help you.
[16:22] <jrib> delinquentme: set /where/?
[16:22] <alp> jneves: well obviously we cant solve that :) but I have a question. look at the output from powertop: http://paste.ubuntu.com/485009/ do you have such a 97.4% on you computer?
[16:22] <delinquentme> im in system > pref > keyboard shortcuts
[16:23] <kellawe> biomass: so you have those orange stripes on the screen all the time?
[16:23] <delinquentme> yeah ti says Mod4+1
[16:23] <delinquentme> its LABELEd in the shortcuts ... but doesnt work
[16:24] <jneves> alp: more - that's normal - means that the cpu is most of the time on the lowest frequency - that's a good thing
[16:24] <biomass> kellawe: its not orange, every other horizontal pixel line has a lighter/darker tone
[16:24] <delinquentme> ...HMmmm but mapping them switcher with alt+1,2,3 works just fine....
[16:24] <delinquentme> jrib, jjmartin have you guys tried mapping anything w the mod4 key??
[16:25] <alp> jneves: does not it mean my Core1 is running on a high freq (false positive)
[16:26] <jjmartin> delinquentme, i use <Mod4>t to start gnome-terminal by setting the command short cut key in gconf-editor
[16:26] <jneves> alp: that would be if the 1.84MHz had the higher %
[16:26] <jneves> alp: not the 1MHz one
[16:26] <kellawe> biomass: i wonder where i got that orange :) Well, unfortunately i dont have any more ideas as what might be causing your problem. sorry
[16:27] <biomass> kellawe: thanks for trying
[16:27] <jrib> delinquentme: I have not, I just use xbindkeys.  But what you did should work.  Check system -> preferences -> keyboard for some conflicting options.  Also, is anything bound just to the windows key by itself?
[16:27] <biomass> kellawe: http://wwww.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1556192 - this person is having the same problem
[16:29] <twig_> i have a vista (ick, not mine) laptop that i was transfering some files (35 gig)to that i had stored on  2nd hdd on my ubuntu10.04 machine,  when i moved the files the first time no issues, set it up to send them back and went to bed, got up and only half of the files went through and my clock was an hour and 15 minutes behind, all the threads ive found have been at least a year old and i saw no explantions, ne body have ne links or thought
[16:29] <twig_> s?
[16:29] <delinquentme> jrib, sooo mod4 + w for the window picker works haha .. *shrug* ima just use alt .. THANKS :D
[16:30] <BluesKaj> biomass, which driver do you have installed.
[16:30] <kellawe> biomass: well, cant say anything but that I'm using the same drivers (geforce go 7300) and it's working fine
[16:31] <biomass> kellawe: it might be the combination with the screen
[16:32] <{g}> Hey People! Whats the right way to add users in ubuntu? "useradd joe"? will that create a homedir and everything that is needed so joe can use X and everything?
[16:32] <lunavorax> Hello everyone !
[16:32] <kellawe> biomass: I suppose you have tried different settings in System->Administration->NVIDIA X Server Settings?
[16:33] <voxyn> hello is there a channel for questions about wine?
[16:33] <lunavorax> I have a problem with my CD drive, ubuntu constantly says that the device or resource is busy so whatever disk I put in the drive it won't read it or whatever
[16:33] <[ThePCKid]> @voxyn: #wine
[16:33] <biomass> kellawe: yes, I've changed resolution and refresh rate, doesn't seem to matter which I use the problem is still the same
[16:33] <[ThePCKid]> Oops
[16:33] <Scrumps> Hello, I was wondering, how I can get RealVNC to automatically start on restart of the system. And, what files I would need to edit to allow it to do so.
[16:33] <[ThePCKid]> #winehq
[16:33] <lunavorax> Sure a reboot will fix that problem but how can I fix that without rebooting
[16:33] <zzzed_> {g}, man adduser
[16:34] <polaroid> question: is it possible to determine which user terminated my process on a Ubuntu-based server?
[16:34] <jneves> lunavorax: do you have some kind of VM?
[16:34] <{g}> zzzed_: ok
[16:34] <zzzed_> {g}, or System->Adminstration->Users and Groups
[16:35] <{g}> zzzed_: i dont use a gui. i type in a shell.
[16:35] <lunavorax> jneves, running ? No
[16:35] <zzzed_> {g}, ok
[16:35] <jneves> lunavorax: if that's not it, use lsof to find which program is using
[16:35] <jneves> lunavorax: running? you don't need it to be running to take over a CD - which VM?
[16:36] <lunavorax> VirtualBox jneves
[16:36] <biomass> kellawe: scanlines does not change in size when I change resolution
[16:36] <jneves> lunavorax: check the lsof result
[16:36] <lunavorax> jneves, lsof gives me way too much information how can I sort this out ?
[16:37] <intranut> use grep
[16:37] <jneves> lunavorax: lsof | grep -i sr0
[16:37] <lunavorax> thank you jneves & intranut
[16:37] <jneves> lunavorax: or paste the full result and let's us do that for you ;)
[16:37] <lunavorax> haha jneves :P
[16:38] <lunavorax> jneves, nothing is using sr0 apparently
[16:38] <jneves> lunavorax: it might be the most reasonable thing to do in that case
[16:38] <lunavorax> jneves, to give you all of lsof result ?
[16:38] <nikkitonUS> Привет
[16:39] <jneves> lunavorax: yeah - paste it on pastie.ubuntu.com
[16:39] <nikkitonUS> HELLO
[16:39] <lunavorax> Ain't I'm giving you a lot of sensitive infortion then :/
[16:39] <lunavorax> But anyway, ok
[16:39] <BluesKaj> !ru | nikkitonUS
[16:40] <nm> hi, i have a quick question. just installed lucid lynx yesterday, other users can access the contents of my home folder. anything changed since 9.10?
[16:40] <jrib> nm: no?
[16:41] <nm> yeah, its strange
[16:41] <jrib> nm: what's strange?
[16:41] <BluesKaj> nm, check permissions
[16:41] <nm> that other desktop users can access the contents of my home folder. it wasnt the case in 9.10
[16:41] <jrib> nm: it's always been like that
[16:41] <nm> k could you help me out with that BluesKaj .. i'm kinda inexperienced
[16:42] <jrib> nm: I can't say with 100% certainty that it was like that in 9.10, but it's been like that as long as I can remember
[16:42] <lunavorax> jneves, here you go http://paste.ubuntu.com/485021/
[16:42] <jrib> !permissions > nm
[16:42] <jjmartin>  #wine
[16:42] <nm> sure, lemme check
[16:42] <jjmartin> hmm too late
[16:42] <jneves> lunavorax: can you repeat with sudo lsof?
[16:42] <BluesKaj> nm home folder/file/properties
[16:43] <lunavorax> I'm doing it right now
[16:43] <nm> ok lemme read that page ubottu ..
[16:44] <lunavorax> jneves, however it doesn't give much information about sr0 with sudo
[16:44] <faizaff> Hi
[16:44] <jneves> lunavorax: it might be using another name - that why I asked for the full list
[16:45] <faizaff> Well I could not find a search in the application menu to search for a specific application
[16:45] <rpk_> j ubuntu-ie
[16:45] <lunavorax> jneves http://www.mediafire.com/?t0v63yho330jfc3
[16:46] <lunavorax> The log was too heavy for paste.ubuntu
[16:46] <Scrumps> How can I get vnc4server to automatically start on system power up?
[16:46] <mamed_> jrib: hey dude i downloaded did the checksum and burned it on a cd did the cd test got 0 errors and then tryied installing and it freezes again
[16:46] <faizaff> I just installed chat zilla but could not find in list how could I search for it
[16:46] <LinuxNewbie> Can a ubuntu remote desktop to a windows system?
[16:46] <jrib> LinuxNewbie: yes
[16:46] <jrib> !alternate | mamed_
[16:46] <jrib> mamed_: use that
[16:47] <Kevin__> hello i cant get my wireless internet to work on ubuntu
[16:47] <faizaff> Search Bar Menu!!
[16:48] <Muelli> !details | Kevin__
[16:48] <mxe5> How do find out where an application opens from - which directory or folder ? ?
[16:49] <flixil> Hello. I got two different X window using nvidia on two different monitors with different resolutions. Opening a window from one monitor opens it in the current monitor, but dialogs and for instance the gsudo dialog go always to the first monitor. How can this behaviour be changed? Thanks
[16:49] <jrib> mxe5: do you know the name of its binary?
[16:49] <dan_s> I lost my ubuntu account --not the password but the entire account disappeared??? Cansomeone help?
[16:49] <Kevin__> i have a problem with connecting with the internet i think i may need a driver but when i click network manager it says next to wireless (device not ready)
[16:49] <bsmith093> will dd work to sanitize a drive and if so what is the command
[16:49] <jrib> dan_s: define "disappeared"
[16:50] <nm> brb
[16:50] <flixil> dan_s, is your user account directory still in /home?
[16:50] <jrib> !wireless > Kevin__
[16:50] <Muelli> bsmith093: use shred, it's much simpler to use :-)
[16:50] <bsmith093> Muelli: shred specifically says not to use it with journalled file systems such as et3 and ext 4 is still journalled
[16:50] <flixil> bsmith093, dd if=/dev/urandom of=/yourunit
[16:51] <bsmith093> how long will that take for an 80gb drive
[16:51] <hellboy316> hi guys ... I am a new ubuntu 10.4 user and i must say .. It is the best os i have ever used .... everything worked out of the box .. so no issues ..
[16:51] <Muelli> bsmith093: I thought you want to wipe the whole drive? If so, then you can go for shred /dev/sda1 or whatever
[16:51] <dan_s> I was working on ubuntu for a month the server version on a windows vista/ubuntu dual boot. I tried to boot into windows...Now that account and contents seem to be gone
[16:51] <jneves> lunavorax: either a) a program is constantly trying to access the cdrom, or b) you need to disable virtualbox services - try b) first
[16:51] <flixil> bsmith093, this destructs the file system completly, so it's the same as shred in this case
[16:51] <Kevin__> what is a private message?
[16:51] <bsmith093> yes but how fast hours days?
[16:51] <Scrumps> Your query window
[16:52] <Kevin__> i am using ubuntu 10.4
[16:52] <mxe5> jrib: The app I want to use is Sonata
[16:52] <Muelli> bsmith093: well. depends on your interface. I'd expect ~20MByte/s.
[16:52] <flixil> bsmith093, depends on size, ram memory, sip speed of the disks, apps opened as well as other things, just try
[16:52] <sudoer> maayong gabie everyone...
[16:52] <Kevin__> what is a queary window do you mean the "freenode" tab?
[16:52] <bsmith093> ok but im using one of those sata to usb things will that slow it down?
[16:52] <jrib> mxe5: so I guess that's a "no" to my question?  If you know the package name ("sonata" in this case), you can do: dpkg -L sonata | grep bin
[16:53] <Muelli> Kevin__: definitely.
[16:53] <dan_s> Rebooting now takes me to a command line instead of the --gui which I installed. And wants a different login. When I login, none of my files apache, mysql or anything I installed exists
[16:53] <Kevin__> thank you
[16:53] <hellboy316> hey guys how do i get those fancy effects from compiz ... like the cube and all
[16:53] <jrib> !effects | hellboy316
[16:53] <hellboy316> okies thanks bro
[16:53] <Tanvir> how can i download skype completely with command line
[16:53] <mxe5> jrib: Yes - did not understand question - sorry
[16:53] <lunavorax> jneves, vbox isn't running at all
[16:54] <flixil> Tanvir aptitude install package_name
[16:54] <ectospasm> hellboy316: install the compizconfig-settings-manager
[16:54] <nm> ok, got it to work, thanks a lot :-)
[16:54] <Kevin__> i have a problem getting my wireless internet to work in ubuntu 10.4 it says device not ready when i try to connect to a wireless network
[16:54] <Tanvir> flixil: full command please
[16:54] <Guest8505> anyone have a simpler method for aggregating history, or should I just use python.
[16:55] <Tanvir> flixil: like sudo ...
[16:55] <flixil> Tanvir, I believe you competent enought to replace package_name for skype
[16:55] <jneves> lunavorax: the services are always running - try /etc/init.d/virtualbox-ose stop (if that's the version you're using)
[16:55] <Guest8505> the GNU history is overly complicated.
[16:55] <Kevin__> do i need a driver?
[16:55] <Tanvir> flixil: no i am not... sorry
[16:56] <hellboy316>  compizconfig-settings-manager : is already installed ... compiz is a theme or window manager .. sorry for my ignorance .. i am new to this
[16:56] <sudoer> lunavorax: dont forget to use sudo
[16:56] <flixil> Tanvir, don't be sorry. You learned that you need root permissions to install a package
[16:56] <Tanvir> flixil: yes
[16:56] <Tanvir> i knew that,
[16:57] <lunavorax> Ok gotcha, wodim is running in zombie mode I just can't kill it
[16:57] <Scrumps> Can anyone help me figure out how to have RealVNC/vnc4server automatically start at boot by adding a file to init.d?
[16:57] <Tanvir> flixil: and i know i need to use sudo when i execute a root command
[16:57] <lunavorax> sudo kill -9 have no effec
[16:57] <lunavorax> +t
[16:57] <bsmith093> lunavorax: reboot?
[16:57] <Kevin__> so can anyone help?
[16:57] <jneves> lunavorax: pstree -p | less - check if the process has children
[16:57] <bsmith093> or logout login?
[16:57] <lunavorax> bsmith093, that's exactly what i want to avoid but anyway
[16:57] <s1id3r0> did you put the process ID behind it.
[16:58] <flixil> Scrumps, can you use update-rc.d instad of doing it manually
[16:58] <Kevin__> ok guess i'll come back later thanks for trying though
[16:58] <KFC> How come grub takes so long to load on my machine
[16:58] <jk_> Lunav
[16:58] <jrib> Kevin__: start by reading link ubottu gave you
[16:58] <bsmith093> ubuntu is easily the fastest booting os i have ever used 40 secs shutdown reboot
[16:58] <Tanvir> flixil: its working
[16:59] <Kevin__> what link i don't see a link
[16:59] <Scrumps> flixil, not sure how to do that. I had to manually compile the software from RealVNC's site, since if you try to do an automatic installation, it gives you an error complaining about a lib package.
[16:59] <Kevin__> i'm sorry
[16:59] <hellboy316> bsmith093: yup it boots faster than win 7 on my box
[16:59] <jk_> lunavorax, the only way I've managed to kill zombie processes is to kill their parent. not good if the parent is "init" or some other critical process!
[16:59] <flixil> Scrumps, is RealVNC installed? then it's the same as if you used a ubuntu package to put it as automatic startup
[17:00] <lunavorax> jneves excellent ! i was able to localize it
[17:00] <lunavorax> I killed the father of wodim, now it's gone
[17:00] <flixil> Scrumps, you can do man update-rc.d because I don't remember the syntax and otherwise I have to read the man for you
[17:00] <jneves> lunavorax: can you read the cd?
[17:00] <s1id3r0> you could always restart X , just " ps -AF |grep Xorg " kill it should bring you back to the login screen
[17:00] <Malgorath> Is there a way to disable power down from inactivity from a terminal?
[17:00] <Tanvir> flixil: thanks
[17:00] <lunavorax> jneves, no
[17:00] <Kevin__> ubottu what link did you give me?
[17:00] <Scrumps> It is installed, but, I don't see where the startup script is. Nothing mentions vnc in any of the folders that are for startup scripts. Or, none of the ones I have checked.
[17:01] <flixil> to restart X you can do Control + alt + backspace or /etc/init.d/gdm or kdm or xdm restart
[17:01] <zzzed_> !wireless | Kevin__
[17:01] <dan_s> It's like the ubuntu account never existed. Anybody have anything I can try to recover my files or recover the account?
[17:01] <s1id3r0> yeah malgorath, use HAL
[17:01] <Kevin__> oh !wireless is the link
[17:01] <hellboy316> hey guys how do i get the room list on an irc server in empathy
[17:01] <flixil> Scrumps, the startup script should be by default in /etc/init.d
[17:02] <Kevin__> thank you
[17:02] <BluesKaj> flixil, Ctrl+ alt + backspace ?
[17:02] <KFC> How can I speed up grub, it so slow
[17:02] <s1id3r0> start with "" lshal" and go from there " man -k hal "  will probably interest you as well
[17:02] <Scrumps> flixil, in there right now. there are no files that start with vnc or real.
[17:02] <hellboy316> how do i get the room list on an irc server in empathy
[17:02] <s1id3r0> " /ist"
[17:02] <Scrumps> Unless it is named something else.
[17:02] <s1id3r0> "/list" *
[17:03] <flixil> Scrumps, make ls and paste it (not here)
[17:03] <lunavorax> hum i give up, i'll just reboot
[17:03] <KFC> Hey guys, I have a problem, grub doesn't react to my keys very well, and it's slow to boot? what do
[17:03] <flixil> Hello. I got two different X window using nvidia on two different monitors with different resolutions. Opening a window from one monitor opens it in the current monitor, but dialogs and for instance the gsudo dialog go always to the first monitor. How can this behaviour be changed? Thanks
[17:03] <KFC> arrow keys*
[17:04] <hellboy316> "/list" doesnt work
[17:04] <flixil> KFC, do you wanna make grub wait less seconds?
[17:04] <s1id3r0> go in a terminal scrumps and type " locate vnc"
[17:04] <KFC> No, it's just slow to load the grub "interface"
[17:04] <KFC> also the arrow keys react slowly in grub
[17:04] <s1id3r0> you can you grep to thin out the list. this is a good time to learn "REGULAR EXPRESSIONS"
[17:04] <jrib> flixil: the DISPLAY variable should influence where an app starts, but what do you want the behavior to change to?
[17:05] <s1id3r0> then you can start using cat and less to replace and write new scripts on the fly
[17:05] <hellboy316> hey slid3ro the room list option is blocked in empathy .. any body else using it ...
[17:05] <flixil> jrib the thing is dialogs created from applications as when you try to get superuser permisions get always to the first screen. I would like all the sons of applications to be created in the same screen as the father
[17:06] <Scrumps> flixil, http://pastebin.ca/1927776
[17:06] <Scrumps> Will do s1id3r0
[17:06] <flixil> KFC, maybe you have another OS loading or trying to load before? check the bios for that
[17:06] <s1id3r0> didn't know that hellboy316, that is strange
[17:06] <johnzorn> is there a way to change the temporary download directory used when doing a distribution upgrade?
[17:06] <hellboy316> ohh okies ... i will install pidgin then ... thanks again
[17:07] <KFC> flixil, What would I put first for grub to load faster, as in cd, hard drive etc
[17:07] <mcgrizzly> clear
[17:07] <Scrumps> s1id3r0, http://pastebin.ca/1927779
[17:07] <flixil> Scrumps, yes it doesn't seem to be ther
[17:07] <Scrumps> That is the output of both the ls of /init.d/ and locate vnc
[17:07] <flixil> KFC, just to start loading the hdisk directly, not cd or other devices
[17:08] <flixil> and not to load the typical fast operative system that now is shipped with
[17:08] <KFC> Well
[17:08] <Scrumps> So, how would I go about adding it to the /init.d/?
[17:08] <KFC> I had windows 7 before I installed ubuntu (self installed) would that be a problem?
[17:08] <flixil> johnzorn, check /etc/apt/sources.list
[17:08] <flixil> KFC, no
[17:09] <KFC> Alright flixil how would I make it react to my arrow keys better?
[17:09] <KFC> there's a huge lag inbetween me clicking the arrows keys and it moving on the screen
[17:09] <flixil> Scrumps, are you sure that you installed it or just compiled it?
[17:10] <rical> How do I remove samba from autostarting?
[17:10] <atul> hi, When am trying to upgrade my ubuntu machine its throwing this error ?ureadahead will be reprofiled on next reboot
[17:10] <atul> Errors were encountered while processing:
[17:10] <atul>  /var/cache/apt/archives/python-xdg_0.18-1ubuntu2_all.deb
[17:10] <atul>  /var/cache/apt/archives/python-protobuf_2.2.0a-0.1ubuntu1_all.deb
[17:10] <FloodBot3> atul: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:10] <rical> (no gui)
[17:10] <flixil> KFC, try with a non usb keyboard or one not wireless. I don't have any other tip
[17:10] <Scrumps> It's installed, I have run the configuration tool, I am using it right now to type and connect to the machine.
[17:10] <s1id3r0> Try this Scrumps , post the output if it doesn't fix the problem ::  locate vnc |grep "*scripts*" && ls -AFRl ~/ |grep vnc && sudo apt-get install wajig && sudo wajig installrs vnc
[17:10] <KFC> I use the one built in :S
[17:11] <Scrumps> Alright, give me a second s1id3r0.
[17:11] <jrib> flixil: how does it behave if you set DISPLAY?  Like:  DISPLAY=:0.0 gedit
[17:11] <KFC> the keyboard that is
[17:11] <flixil> jrib correctly, it creates the application in the first monitor, I can change display to create it on the second monitor. That's not the problem
[17:11] <rical> anyone? what startup deamon starts samba? how do I remove ut from autostart? (no gui)
[17:11] <Scrumps> s1id3r0, No errors were outputted.]
[17:11] <flixil> The problem is with the special windows, like dialogs
[17:12] <flixil> rical, use man update-rc.d
[17:12] <blink> how can i install .rpm files?
[17:12] <flixil> blink use alien (not recomended)
[17:12] <jrib> flixil: so it's NOT specific to administration applications?
[17:13] <flixil> you can convert .rpm to .deb with alien
[17:13] <jrib> blink: you don't.  What do you want to install?
[17:13] <rical> flixil: thanks
[17:13] <blink> nmap
[17:13] <jrib> !apt | blink
[17:13] <Maletor> How can I enable HDMI sound through my NVIDIA GTX 460? It is not in system=>prefs=>sound. Refer http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1560288&highlight=hdmi+sound+gtx+460
[17:13] <jrib> blink: that's how you should install everything, including nmap :)
[17:13] <aaron11> hi
[17:13] <flixil> jrib now that you say it... It may be... I just realised the problem with the input password application. I think you are right with that guess
[17:13] <s1id3r0> OK Scrumps , strange ,your probably missing a dependency , you can also run : "" sudo apt-get install -f  && sudo apt-get build-dep " build-dep may fix any missing libs.
[17:13] <aaron11> hi
[17:14] <jrib> flixil: because I'm pretty sure that by default, a command you run through sudo will not inherit DISPLAY
[17:14] <Scrumps> s1id3r0, It ouputted this error message:
[17:14] <Scrumps> E: Must specify at least one package to check builddeps for
[17:15] <flixil> jrib how can I change this behaviour? I don't know very well the details of getting superuser powers
[17:15] <aaron11> I want to use my internet that im reciving from my usb modem and transfer it via ethernet to my router. that is one end goes into my computer and other end goes to the router, how can i do this. Please walk me through. Im using ubuntu `10.04
[17:15] <Scrumps> Was I supposed to put vnc4server in after build-dep?
[17:15] <Paragon> does anyone know where i could find a better build of samba or something equivalent? samba seems to be refusing connections even when i set it to share mode or whatever.
[17:15] <s1id3r0> right , put vnc there, you can do it with " history" if you know it
[17:16] <flixil> aaron check on the internet for "internet forwarding linux" or check the graphic application firestarter
[17:16] <Scrumps> Alright... well it is downloading several packages.
[17:16] <s1id3r0> just after the -f flag .  you can do a similar check with dpkg if you wish , you may need to reinstall it if it installed anything
[17:16] <flixil> Paragon, how do you know that the build is wrong and not the configuration?
[17:16] <apow> Paragon: please confirm that the smbd daemon is listening on the correct ports, try sudo netstat -anp | grep smbd
[17:16] <jrib> flixil: I just tested, seems sudo preserves DISPLAY actually
[17:16] <Paragon> that's the problem
[17:17] <Paragon> smbd doesn't even exist?
[17:17] <s1id3r0> right, it is gathering the build dependencies , you may just have a missing lib somewhere , -f doesn
[17:17] <aaron11> I want to use my internet that im reciving from my usb modem and transfer it via ethernet to my router. that is one end goes into my computer and other end goes to the router, how can i do this. Please walk me through. Im using ubuntu `10.04
[17:17] <s1id3r0> won't always fix it.
[17:17] <apow> I don't have samba installed here, but I'll need it, let me try to walk this thru with you
[17:17] <aaron11> flixil: next time use tab
[17:17] <aaron11> !tab
[17:17] <rical> how do I check what run mode I'm in?
[17:18] <Scrumps> Alright, well, it gathered and installed everything. Without any errors I believe.
[17:18] <jrib> flixil: ok well, let's try a different approach.  Do you know why the administration apps open up on the other monitor?
[17:18] <Paragon> whenever i start up samba, it gives errors like Ignoring unknown parameter "domain master"
[17:18] <Paragon> and that's using the samba command
[17:18] <aaron11> the router is supposed to connect to my backtrack machine
[17:18] <arrrghhh> Paragon, we'd need to see your smb.conf
[17:19] <aaron11> i mean the other way around
[17:19] <jrib> Paragon: why aren't you using "service"?
[17:19] <flixil> jrib mmm... I don't know why. Because it's the primary monitor I guess, but I don't wanna be changing which monitor is the primary as that involves changing xorg.conf every time
[17:19] <apow> Paragon: how are you trying to setup samba? standalone server that shares stuff, domain master or what?
[17:19] <Paragon> service smbd start doesn't do anything
[17:19] <jrib> flixil: ok, so why do the regular apps not start there?
[17:19] <Paragon> i'm trying to set samba to just accept files from a share
[17:19] <Paragon> and be the share?
[17:19] <jrib> Paragon: smb should start automatically anyway
[17:19] <apow> Paragon: ook so let me see your conf file
[17:20] <apow> use a pastebin and give me the link
[17:20] <Paragon> okay
[17:20] <Paragon> give me a min
[17:20] <aaron11> I want to use my internet that im reciving from my usb modem and transfer it via ethernet to my router. that is one end goes into my computer and other end goes to the router, how can i do this. Please walk me through. Im using ubuntu `10.04
[17:20] <Scrumps> s1id3r0, everything finished fine.
[17:20] <matthatesspam> Um, I'm not sure if this is the proper place, but I have a question about wireless networks on the netbook remix.
[17:20] <flixil> jrib it's another Xserver if I understood correctly the concept of "different X screens", so this means that they inherit a different DISPLAY value when created
[17:20] <dan_s> I'm booted up in livecd. I want to search for files on another account that has disappeared. Is that possible. I have the pass/login
[17:21] <jrib> flixil: so they start there because you start them from the menu there?
[17:21] <apow> dan_s: since you'll mount the harddisk as root, you should be able to find whatever you need.
[17:21] <flixil> jrib yes, or from a console form here, or so on
[17:21] <apow> don't even need a password
[17:21] <arrrghhh> aaron11, ok this is doable, but it'll take some work.  i'm assuming the internet on the 10.04 box works thru the usb modem?
[17:21] <aaron11> can anyone help me
[17:21] <s1id3r0> good times " sudo reboot 'now' and see if it works, I have somethings to attend to but you can get me on "google buzz" or back here if you have a problem , just google " sliderzero" and you should find me.
[17:21] <savy33> Heya, I need to kill the xserver from terminal, how to ?
[17:21] <jrib> flixil: I see now, though I'm not sure why dialogs would ignore DISPLAY
[17:21] <s1id3r0> cheers and good luck
[17:21] <Scrumps> thank you
[17:21] <flixil> aaron check firestarter to do it easily and graphically
[17:21] <airtonix> savy33, service gdm stop
[17:21] <aaron11> arrrghhh: umm yeah
[17:22] <matthatesspam> Would anyone happen to know how to manually add a network?
[17:22] <aaron11> arrrghhh: currently im on usb modem
[17:22] <apow> aaron11: what's the name of the device that has the public ip and the name of the device with the local ip
[17:22] <alp> how can I change order of boot list on ubuntu?
[17:22] <arrrghhh> aaron11, ok, next step you need to plug the WAN port on your router into the ethernet port on your 10.04 box.
[17:22] <airtonix> savy33, (without you specifying, it's assumed you are using : latest ubuntu (10,04), and gnome)
[17:22] <matthatesspam> My wireless card will pick up my neighbor's network, but not my ow.
[17:22] <Scrumps> sudo reboot 'now'
[17:22] <aaron11> apow: I dont understand you
[17:22] <Scrumps> Haha
[17:22] <Scrumps> woops
[17:22] <Scrumps> Wrong window.
[17:22] <FloodBot3> Scrumps: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:22] <airtonix> !enter
[17:22]  * jrib is tempted to kick Scrumps
[17:22] <bjv> Who is in charge of archive mounter?
[17:22] <aaron11> arrrghhh: 1 sec
[17:22] <bjv> or is it just useless
[17:22] <apow> aaron11: type ifconfig -a into your terminal and paste it to me
[17:23] <aaron11> arrrghhh: lemmy pull out my router
[17:23] <jrib> bjv: do you have an actual support question?
[17:23] <apow> on a private message.
[17:23] <savy33> airtonix: thnx
[17:23] <matthatesspam> Can anyone help me?
[17:23] <bjv> jrib: is there a way to use archive mounter to mount the archive loopback?
[17:23] <apow> Paragon: so, did you put your conf somewhere?
[17:23] <flixil> jrib do you think that gdevilspie can help here?
[17:23] <airtonix> savy33, that command i gave you can be applied to pretty much any service assuming it has 'upstart' sripts. it also assumes you'll be prefixing it with sudo
[17:23] <mcgrizzly> does it still work?
[17:24] <bjv> jrib: because for now ive just put an script next to my .iso to run gksudo 'losetup -f *etc.'
[17:24] <dan_s> How would I find something that I am missing. It seems like all my files are gone. For instance I had one called wikiha in var/www locate wikiha produces nothing
[17:24] <apow> matthatesspam: your card is working for sure, did you put your ap in hidden mode?
[17:24] <jrib> flixil: I didn't know devilspie could send things to other X servers, but even if it can, it would be hard to write a rule that says: open dialogs where the parent window is
[17:24] <apow> dan_s: find / -name '*wikiha*'
[17:24] <mcgrizzly> clear
[17:24] <mcgrizzly> does it work?
[17:24] <savy33> airtonix: yh, it worked fine, im just used to using cntrl alt bckspce
[17:25] <perojok> hi, my linux could not send bigsize data to internet, for example files, images, what can i do?
[17:25] <jrib> bjv: I think there exists a nautilus script to do that, but I don't know about "archive mounter"
[17:25] <phil___> how do i add a custom service to start when going to runlevel 0 with the event based upstart?
[17:25] <apow> perojok: are you connected via pppoe?
[17:25] <airtonix> savy33, ah right, for that to work you need to modify the keyboard profile settings.
[17:25] <jrib> !upstart | phil___
[17:25] <apow> perojok: adsl connection?
[17:25] <jrib> phil___: they also have an irc channel
[17:25] <airtonix> savy33, you'll find a tickbox in there that will enable that behaviour
[17:26] <perojok> apow: not adls
[17:26] <phil___> thanks jrib
[17:26] <apow> perojok: but pppoe?
[17:26] <perojok> apow: yes
[17:27] <flixil> jrib yes, It cannot send things to other Xservers, checked :(
[17:27] <apow> perojok: paste the output of ifconfig -a to me in a private window
[17:28] <stev3> hello, could anyone tell me how i can mount the whole share from my windows pc, rather than just a folder? thanks
[17:28] <lightbricko> I have a pdf file with black "overstriking" hiding most words. If I simply select the words so they get blue, the words are visible (so they are not truly hidden). Is the a tool that simply can remove the black overstrikings so I can read the document easily?
[17:29] <lightbricko> the/there
[17:29] <TiK> lightbricko: copy and pase the whole document?
[17:29] <TiK> paste
[17:29] <flixil> jrib any idea about where to ask, what can make the problem or even how to make a google search, because I've not been able to find anything interesting
[17:30] <dan_s> nothing on the search ... I did sudo su and then the command you sent
[17:30] <laura_> i need some help in uninstalling something I found on my system that I dont want there. I was reading through the Ubuntu User Days Trusted Software presentation and they mentioned chkrootkit. I ran that and it says I have an infected one called bindshell. How do I get rid of it?
[17:30] <flixil> stev3 I don't understand your question
[17:30] <Ralovet> 谁知道中文的IRC是那个
[17:30] <apow> laura_: safest way is to format.
[17:31] <jrib> flixil: your best bet is to find someone that also has your setup :P  I would try here later, some other linux channels (##linux maybe), forums too.  My google searches have also been less than fruitful
[17:31] <Semitones> hey everyone -- I'm having sudden unexpected trouble reading CDs. when I click on it in gnome, it says "mount: special device /dev/hda does not exist"
[17:31] <apow> laura_: if you think you have been rooted, you can't possibly know what your attacker has done to your system.
[17:31] <laura_> arrrgh... reformatting, that means reinstalling everything i use again *sigh*
[17:31] <aaron11_> arrrghhh: sorry
[17:31] <apow> laura_: sorry :(
[17:31] <magicianlord> apow: she needs a specific solution
[17:31] <aaron11_> arrrghhh: i dissconnected
[17:31]  * magicianlord twirls
[17:31] <flixil> laura_, you cannot trust the system otherwise
[17:32] <apow> I'm saying there isn't one.
[17:32] <Maletor> How can I enable HDMI sound through my NVIDIA GTX 460? It is not in system=>prefs=>sound. Refer http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1560288&highlight=hdmi+sound+gtx+460
[17:32] <laura_> great.. ok.. well, i guess i needed the practice anyway.
[17:32] <magicianlord> laura_: how did this happen
[17:32] <Semitones> Is /dev/hda even where the cdrom drive lives?
[17:32] <apow> laura_: everyone does at some point :P
[17:32] <usr_> hello, I have an n computing x300 kit. Its a desktop virtualization pci card that can support up to 3 terminals but I do not know how to make it work in ubuntu. Any suggestions, ideas?
[17:33] <laura_> i'm not sure, i'm confused about it since I cant recall ever installing anything except from the Ubuntu Software Center
[17:33] <apow> laura_: does anyone else has access to this server?
[17:33] <nogo> Maletor: do you have a monitor with hdmi?
[17:33] <Scrumps> Hm, so that didn't work, and now I get a grey background when connecting using that.
[17:33] <jrib> flixil: well gl, I'm off for a bit
[17:33] <Scrumps> Does anyone else have any ideas?
[17:34] <Semitones> I can't find where my cdrom drive lives in /dev/
[17:34] <laura_> it's just a personal laptop but yes I have one friend that comes over to use it sometimes. I thought I could trust her but maybe she inadvertantly installed something ... i dunno. i'll make a separate account for her that cant install stuff next time
[17:34] <rockhopper> Semitones, doesn't it auto mount?
[17:34] <Maletor> nogo: Yes, it's going to a receiver which has HDMI out to my monitor.
[17:34] <laura_> what is bindshell ? what does it do?
[17:34] <met_> laura_: a good starting point would be getting the information about this PCI device by typing lspci in a terminal, so you could search for contrete information about support of it in the kernel
[17:34] <Maletor> nogo: should i try to bypass the receiver?
[17:35] <apow> laura_: that's good practice. Also make sure that you have your iptables rules up and running to avoid exploits on network daemons.
[17:35] <nogo> Maletor: no clue
[17:35] <Semitones> rockhopper, no it used to work but it isn't anymore
[17:35] <laura_> iptables... that is sometime I have no idea about. i'm just learning all this
[17:35] <Semitones> clicking on the cdrom drive in GNOME says "mount: special device /dev/hda does not exist"
[17:35] <apow> laura_: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-security/2003-March/000050.html
[17:35] <dan_s> I need to get my files off this damaged system. Can I do that from the livecd. Or did that search show that the file headers no longer exist. Or. am I in the wrong partition?
[17:35] <laura_> i'm very new at linux
[17:36] <rockhopper> Semitones, if its recognised, and you insert a cd, it shud auto mount, and be visible in /dev/
[17:36] <apow> well, someone more versed in the ubuntu ways can probably give you an easy way to setup iptables for home use
[17:36] <Semitones> rockhopper, it used to be recognized, but if it isn't any more -- what do I do?
[17:36] <apow> I'd give you a bunch of commands to type :P
[17:36] <Sixer> Hi. How do I update my kernel on Hardy ?
[17:37] <laura_> just read that msg on the website link you posted.. what is a rootkit?
[17:37] <Sixer> Without custom compiling it
[17:37] <met_> laura_: Applications > Accessoires > Terminal. A window opens. Type "lspci" without quotations, followed by a press on the enter key. You'll get a list of the installed PCI devices.
[17:38] <salted> hey guys, I need some help installing ubuntu, I have windows on one drive, and I want to install ubunto on a different drive, and I only want to use half the drive. I've tried installed several times now, but each time it fails and I get a grub rescue prompt. I don't konw what I'm doing wrong
[17:38] <laura_> met_: okay i did that and got a long list of stuff. what is it i'm looking for in there?
[17:38] <Semitones> rockhopper: I'm thinking maybe it's wrong in fstab, and it doesn't really live at /dev/hda
[17:39] <apow> laura_: something you install on a server to make sure you can access it remotely with administrative priviledges any time you want, without anyone knowing about it.
[17:39] <apow> privileges*
[17:39] <rockhopper> Semitones, is cdrom mounted in fstab file?
[17:39] <met_> laura_: this is the list of all PCI devices, search for the one(s) the device being in question
[17:39] <Semitones> rockhopper, yes: /dev/hda /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0
[17:39] <bnv> hello
[17:39] <apow> met_ I think you confused questions :)
[17:40] <met_> apow: I assume the support of the card in Linux is questionable
[17:40] <rockhopper> Semitones, Ok, then the hardware's not working.
[17:40] <apow> met_: what card?
[17:40] <apow> she has a rootkit/firewall problem
[17:40] <Semitones> rockhopper, nah, it works in windows
[17:40] <apow> not a hardware issue.
[17:40] <met_> sorry laura_ , I meant usr_  :)
[17:41] <laura_> btw, i really appreciate your help.  i dont see bindshell or port 6667 showing in there anywhere
[17:41] <apow> haha :)
[17:41] <met_> usr_: what I said was for you :>
[17:41] <rockhopper> Semitones, Oh.
[17:41] <apow> laura_: as I said, this is too much for someone who's starting
[17:41] <Atomix77> can I ask a question?
[17:41] <met_> don't ask to ask, ask
[17:41] <Atomix77> What is the ultimate question of life?
[17:41] <apow> just format and install nothing before you configure your firewall
[17:41] <laura_> ok, i'll just format and start over again.. it's good practice anyway :)
[17:41] <met_> this questions deals not with ubuntu
[17:42] <Semitones> The problem is I don't know WHY the cd rom is not mounting. If I knew how to troubleshoot it would be easier.
[17:42] <rockhopper> Semitones, try mounting it manually
[17:42] <Atomix77> Well,  it does.
[17:42] <rockhopper> it lives at /dev/cdrom
[17:42] <laura_> ok.. there is my next question.. how do i configure the firewall? arrgh i hate when i'm still an idiot learning something new. i'll be glad when i know this stuff and dont feel so stupid
[17:42] <flixil> Jaume Colon?
[17:42] <Semitones> rockhopper, I tried "sudo mount /media/cdrom0" but I got the same message, so I think that's what gnome is trying too
[17:42] <Atomix77> If you get it right, you might as well solve every problem there is in life, including ubuntu
[17:42] <zatoo> Heeelp
[17:42] <zatoo> OOO Impress very slow running fglrx
[17:42] <laura_> is there a how to somewhere on net that i can refer to?
[17:43] <flixil> laura_, you can use firestarter as a graphic firewall
[17:43] <apow> laura_: sure there is, just google for ubuntu home firewall setup
[17:43] <apow> oh see
[17:43] <Semitones> so maybe the cdrom lives somewhere else besides /dev/hda, but how would I find out
[17:43] <apow> what flixil said :)
[17:43] <rockhopper> Semitones, you didnt mention what shud you mount
[17:43] <apow> I'm not a gui person
[17:43] <laura_> ok i'll try that.. thank you both so much for all your help
[17:43] <apow> :D
[17:43] <flixil> what apow said :)
[17:43] <rockhopper> it should be something like this sudo mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom0
[17:43] <Semitones> rockhopper, if it's in fstab, you don't have to
[17:43] <hemza> is it really that i need an anti virus when i run ubuntu
[17:43] <Maletor> How can I enable HDMI sound through my NVIDIA GTX 460? It is not in system=>prefs=>sound. Refer http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1560288&highlight=hdmi+sound+gtx+460
[17:43] <met_> Atomix77: in theory this might be true, but you could find it our by yourself by studying a bit of philosophy
[17:43] <Semitones> rockhopper, I don't know where in /dev/ it exists
[17:44] <rockhopper> it shud exist in /dev/cdrom
[17:44] <hiku> Maletor: try - http://www.mandladventures.com/2008/11/03/ubuntu-810-hdmi-sound-configuration/
[17:45] <zatoo> :(
[17:45] <flixil> Hello. I got two different X window using nvidia on two different monitors with different resolutions. Opening a window from one monitor opens it in the current monitor, but dialogs and for instance the gsudo dialog go always to the first monitor. How can this behaviour be changed? Thanks
[17:45] <rockhopper> Semitones, see if this helps you http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/wine/36100-cant-find-cdrom.html
[17:45] <gnat_xx> i just upgraded someone's ubuntu install from hardy to lucid. in the process i seem to have lost the gnome sound applet for the taskbar. is it no longer in the "gnome-applets" package?
[17:45] <boliclis> I upgraded to lucid and now have text "ubuntu 10.04" instead of boot logo (dots are there though). I tried the usual ati/nvidia plymouth logo fix, but that only made the text show slightly longer. Any thoughts?
[17:46] <Maletor> hiku: My System=>Preferences=>Sound does not have an option to choose HDMI
[17:46] <hiku> gnat_xx: try the indicator applet
[17:46] <Maletor> hiku: Plus, this is a NVIDIA Card
[17:46] <bnv> I joined to the Ubuntu Font Family Interest Group, but my instance is pending approval yet. Can you help me? I would like to test this font, but i can't download it.
[17:46] <ubuntu> hi i have quite a big problem here :i tryed installing ubuntu on my desktop but when it came to resize the partition, it gave me only 3.7gb avaible for ubuntu (when i had 50gb free in windows). so foolish of me i tryed to repartion only the windows one (380gb total) to 10gb with ext4 and mount point /home. i applyed and then i thought "its a bad idea" so i quit the installation and now i...
[17:46] <ubuntu> ...can't boot windows. any ways to at least get back my files from windows? Thanks
[17:46] <boliclis> gnat_xx: do you have any sound icon in the panel?
[17:46] <hiku> Maletor: what type of sound card?
[17:46] <gnat_xx> hiku: that looks right.
[17:46] <apow> ubuntu: first you should boot your livecd then try to mount your windows partition.
[17:47] <Maletor> hiku: NVIDIA GTX 460
[17:47] <gnat_xx> boliclis: i do now that i used the indicator applet
[17:48] <gnat_xx> thanks for the help!!
[17:48] <hiku> Maletor: maybe this? - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=967023
[17:49] <ubuntu> apow: how do i mount it? im already in ubuntu running from my usb stick right
[17:49] <alp> guys how much swap size is recommended???
[17:49] <hiku> alp: 2x your ram
[17:49] <hiku> alp: now adays equal to your ram is fine
[17:50] <alp> hiku: hmm I have 3gb of ram but 500 mb of swap
[17:50] <hiku> alp: did you do a default partition layout?
[17:50] <alp> so I'm doing it wrong
[17:50] <bnv> mindjart jovok, reboot
[17:50] <hiku> alp: usually the default is fine when you choose "use entire disk"
[17:50] <alp> hiku: what's default partition layout?
[17:50] <alp> I've ubuntu on sda6, swap on sda7
[17:51] <hiku> alp: you could always resize your partitions with gparted...
[17:51] <incandenza> it's fine unless you're actually running out of swap
[17:51] <fruitbag`> Hey, guys...
[17:52] <BigC> What effect does file system journaling have on a ssd?
[17:52] <hiku> alp: yea, like incandenza said, it really shouldn't be to big an issue.
[17:52] <fruitbag`> I have a Toshiba Satellite Pro 430CDT laptop circa 1996 with 24 MB of RAM. What Linux distro would you guys recommend for it?
[17:52] <Maletor> hiku: does not come up in aplay -l
[17:52] <alp> I see 854 on +-swap's free on $free -m
[17:53] <alp> hiku: in this case, is it a big deal?
[17:53] <alp> but 500mb of swap
[17:53] <hiku> Maletor: oh ok. Hmm, not sure ... I'll keep pokin around
[17:53] <BigC> fruitbag`: probably DSL linux or puppy linux
[17:53] <fruitbag`> Alright
[17:53] <ELREY> puppy linux?
[17:53] <hiku> alp: no..
[17:53] <fruitbag`> BigC, what I really wanted to do was to have internet access via the parallel port using SSH.
[17:54] <fruitbag`> Will either DSL or Puppy Linux allow for such facilities?
[17:54] <Scrumps_> Is there any reason why I cannot connect to Windows Shares over the network? Every time I try, I keep getting an eror message regarding the master server list cannot be accessed.
[17:55] <Scrumps_> Or, just can't access them at all.
[17:55] <BigC> I'm not sure, but if all you are going to be using SSH, then you could go with a distro that is command line only like arch, or gentoo, or something like that
[17:56] <fruitbag`> Well, not just SSH, BigC . I want to use an internet browser too
[17:56] <fruitbag`> You see, I was enquiring in another channel about the possibility of accessing the internet using my 14 year old laptop via the parallel port connected to an internet-ready computer.
[17:57] <systest> what's the new mechanism for configuring hardware for X now that HAL has been deprecated?
[17:57] <BigC> I will still stick with my 2 recommendations, but if you need more help with that, please go to there irc channels
[17:57] <hiku> fruitbag`: doesn't your old laptop have an ethernet port?
[17:57] <fruitbag`> I was told that the only option would be to install a Linux distro and do so by SSH
[17:57] <fruitbag`> hiku, no
[17:57] <ximal> Hey guys ... I'm having trouble getting any driver but the ATI/AMD driver working for my video card . The Menu / System / Hardware drivers / program is not showing anything else install to try and use as my video driver . How would I manually force the radeonhd driver to be used ?
[17:57] <hiku> fruitbag`: how about a pcmcia slot?
[17:57] <fruitbag`> Yes, two
[17:57] <fruitbag`> But I don't have an Ethernet PCMCIA adaptor
[17:57] <hiku> fruitbag`: I'd pick up a ethernet card for cheap and use that instead
[17:58] <fruitbag`> I think I've tried that before, anyway
[17:58] <fruitbag`> There seems to be an issue with the PCMCIA slots
[17:58] <arrrghhh> internet via a parallel port?  even if that did work, it'd be sooooo slow!
[17:58] <fruitbag`> arrrghhh, how about the serial port?
[17:59] <Maletor> hiku: You know what it might be? ALSA is out of date and doesn't have support for the GTX 460
[17:59] <hiku> fruitbag`: internet via parallel/serial port via ssh? hmm, yeah I doubt that will work
[17:59] <arrrghhh> fruitbag`, you're asking about very unorthodox ports being used for internet connectivity...
[17:59] <hiku> Maletor: ah, good catch. update?
[17:59] <Kaolc> Hey, can anyone help me set up gnome? apt-get install gnome won't work for some reason.
[17:59] <arrrghhh> fruitbag`, they may work, but you'll need an additional piece of hardware.
[17:59] <fruitbag`> I know, arrrghhh. The are the only means of live connectivity that the laptop has.
[17:59] <hiku> Kaolc: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[17:59] <Kaolc> didn't work either
[17:59] <Kaolc> oh
[17:59] <Kaolc> sec
[18:00] <arrrghhh> Kaolc, use aptitude if you want to be able to remove it later...
[18:00] <Kaolc> I don't..
[18:00] <Kaolc> I'm setting up a VPS for a friend
[18:00] <Kaolc> he wants a GUI
[18:00] <ximal> Is there a way to force my computer to use a driver instead of automatically picking what it sees as the best driver ?
[18:00] <dsfaedf> arrrghhh: bad internet
[18:00] <apow> fruitbag`: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/PLIP.html
[18:00] <arrrghhh> Kaolc, hrm.  you installed ubuntu-server edition or what?  just give him webmin.
[18:01] <Kaolc> Naw, he needs an actual gui because he wants to run mirc and stuff from it
[18:01] <ikonia> arrrghhh: webmin is not supported
[18:01] <Kaolc> downloading ubuntu-desktop or whatever you told me to now, 30 secs remaining
[18:01] <arrrghhh> ikonia, yea yea i know.  but ebox sucks.
[18:01] <hiku> Kaolc: =0
[18:01] <hiku> Kaolc: cool.
[18:01] <ximal> Is there a way to force my computer to use a driver instead of automatically picking what it sees as the best driver ?
[18:01] <Kaolc> okay it's done, lol. 1,3gb :P
[18:01] <arrrghhh> Kaolc, oh... you should've probably just installed ubuntu-desktop in the first place then :P
[18:02] <hiku> Kaolc: yeah =)
[18:02] <arrrghhh> ximal, modprobe... what are you trying to do?
[18:02] <Yarrgh> I wish i had internet that fast
[18:02] <Kaolc> Why did apt-get install gnome not work tho? And yeah, I should have done desktop in the first place I guess
[18:02] <Kaolc> gnome said missing dependencies, then when I installed them it would just keep saying it
[18:02] <ikonia> Kaolc: nome is not the desktop package,
[18:03] <ikonia> Kaolc: ubuntu-desktop is the desktop package
[18:03] <Kaolc> ah
[18:03] <arrrghhh> Kaolc, there's ways to just install gnome... i think it's gnome-core?
[18:03] <hiku> Kaolc: if you do apt-cache search gnome, you will see a ton of packages with the name gnome in them.
[18:03] <Kaolc> ah
[18:03] <Kaolc> Makes sense then
[18:03] <Kaolc> unpacking.. Zzzz
[18:03] <arrrghhh> ubuntu-desktop gives you EVERYTHING.  including gnome.
[18:03] <arrrghhh> and open office
[18:03] <Kaolc> Ah, sweet
[18:03] <arrrghhh> etc
[18:03] <Kaolc> then how exactly would my friend connect to the VPS when he wants to?
[18:04] <Kaolc> VNC or something?
[18:04] <hiku> Kaolc: yeah..
[18:04] <Semitones> rockhopper: that didn't help. I'm looking in dmesg for my cd rom but there are problems
[18:04] <ikonia> Kaolc: that works
[18:04] <Kaolc> Sorry for sounding a bit dumb probably, but what's the easiest way to get that set up?
[18:04] <arrrghhh> Kaolc, ubuntu has one called 'vino', built-in.
[18:04] <salted> I'm having a problem installing ubuntu. I have two drives, one with windows and one with ubuntu, after I install ubuntu I get a grub rescue prompt.I followed the installer and choose to install ubuntu on sdb using the entire drive. I have windows on sda. Any help?
[18:05] <coz_> salted,  these 2 drives... both are  sata    ata   scsi  ??
[18:05] <hiku> arrrghhh: I have a default 10.04 install and vino isn't installed by default
[18:05] <arrrghhh> Kaolc, is the vps a separate box?
[18:05] <salted> sata
[18:05] <salted> coz_: sata
[18:05] <Kaolc> I have no idea.. I think it is
[18:05] <arrrghhh> hiku, i thought it was... did they take it out?
[18:05] <Kaolc> So I just launch vino?
[18:06] <hiku> arrrghhh: yea I think so...
[18:06] <Kaolc> Well, how do I even connect to it
[18:06] <Kaolc> lol
[18:06] <arrrghhh> Kaolc, i thought you set this up for your buddy...
[18:06] <coz_> salted,  and does the live cd recognize both as individual drives in the parition manager?
[18:06] <Kaolc> I am
[18:06] <Kaolc> I'm sorta clueless too tho
[18:06] <Kaolc> so is he
[18:06] <FloodBot3> Kaolc: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:06] <hiku> Kaolc: sudo apt-get install vino
[18:06] <arrrghhh> so you should know how it was setup...?
[18:06] <salted> coz_: I think so, I get a choice to to install on either drive
[18:06] <Kaolc> Why should I know how it was set up?
[18:06] <arrrghhh> you setup a hypervisor vps system and you don't know how to connect to it...?
[18:06] <arrrghhh> Kaolc, i was under the impression you setup the vps...
[18:06] <Kaolc> No, I didn't set it up
[18:06] <coz_> salted,   and does it want to install grub on the windows drive ...yes?
[18:07] <Kaolc> He bought it, I'm "setting it up" (= installing ubuntu-desktop)
[18:07] <arrrghhh> Kaolc, ok, who did?  is it a hosted solution?
[18:07] <Kaolc> It's a hosted one yeah
[18:07] <Kaolc> sorry for the misunderstanding there
[18:07] <acu> I want to convert an avi video file to 3gp or mpeg-4 .mp4 to play it in Android G1 - what encoder is available ?
[18:07] <salted> coz_: on the final step when I look at the advanced settings, it shows bootloader to be installed on /sda
[18:07] <arrrghhh> Kaolc, what is he doing with it?  installing ubuntu-desktop may be way overkill.
[18:07] <Maletor> hiku: what's the plan of action? just wait until alsa supports this? i far as I can tell they do not but I can't find a list anywhere
[18:07] <coz_> salted,  right that would be the windows drive correct?
[18:07] <Semitones> [ 1515.471263] sr0: CDROM (ioctl) error, command: Start/Stop Unit 1b 00 00 00 03 00
[18:07] <Kaolc> He's a total retard, can't run anything from commandline. He just needs mirc installed, that's really all
[18:08] <Semitones> I think I'll just restart and see if that fixes it
[18:08] <salted> coz_: right
[18:08] <ikonia> Kaolc: please don't talk about people like that
[18:08] <Kaolc> Why not?
[18:08] <arrrghhh> Kaolc, he's purchased a VPS to run mirc...?
[18:08] <hiku> Maletor: yeah that might be your only option. Unless you pick up a card a bit older with support
[18:08] <coz_> salted,  ok that part is correct
[18:08] <arrrghhh> Kaolc, insults are not taken lightly here....
[18:08] <Kaolc> Yes.. He's running a botting system with it. It's a long story, but right now his pc is on 2/7
[18:08] <Kaolc> 24/7 *
[18:08] <ikonia> Kaolc: it's not nice, we are here to support not slate people
[18:08] <Maletor> hiku: well i can still do spdif
[18:08] <Kaolc> He's sitting besides me, he doesn't mind.
[18:08] <ikonia> Kaolc: I do
[18:08] <coz_> salted,  so as far as you know ubuntu installed
[18:08] <ikonia> Kaolc: please stop
[18:08] <Kaolc> Well you sure get offended easily
[18:09] <Kaolc> how do you manage to survive in this world?
[18:09] <coz_> salted,  onto the second drive  yes?
[18:09] <arrrghhh> Kaolc, insults are not taken lightly here, just give it a rest.
[18:09] <hiku> Maletor: true...
[18:09] <Maletor> hiku: i will just have to wait for hdmi out which will include bitstreaming. you think it would be easy to pass unmolested audio through a card to a receiver.
[18:09] <Kaolc> kk.
[18:09] <Kaolc> Sorry then.
[18:09] <ikonia> Kaolc: I'll only mention this one more time - it stops now. No more on it
[18:09] <Kaolc> Sorry, I've stopped. Will keep my language clean then.
[18:09] <salted> coz_: yeah, it takes about 5 minutes installing and then it wants to reboot. That's right, it doesn't hurt the windows install
[18:09] <Maletor> hiku: i can barely find anything on this online
[18:09] <hiku> Maletor: good question. I've never tried that before but I would think it should be fine
[18:09] <Kaolc> Well my point was just that he's inexperienced and needs to run mirc and doesn't know how to do commandline
[18:09] <hiexpo> hola all
[18:09] <fruitbag`> Is it possible to IRC using the SSH protocol?
[18:10] <coz_> salted,   ok go here  http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide   read  here on resintalling grub2   ...read it carefully  and follow through with it to see if it then fixes the issue
[18:10] <ikonia> Kaolc: he would be better using xchat on ubuntu then mirc in wine
[18:10] <Kaolc> Nah, the script he's using is for MIRC
[18:10] <hiku> fruitbag`: you mean tunnel irc ports through ssh?
[18:10] <alp> guys what is the default tool for burning ISOs into CDS
[18:10] <mcl0vin> is there a VMware for ubuntu or what is equivalent
[18:10] <arrrghhh> Kaolc, so if it's just a botnet... hrm.  i guess you can install ubuntu-desktop.  seems wacky, but hey if you want to pay for a hosted solution to do it for you more power to you.  so the host - they let you install anything on it?  did they give you any options for connectivity?
[18:10] <Kaolc> It's not a botnet by the way
[18:10] <coz_> mcl0vin,  yes there is
[18:10] <hiku> alp: basaro?
[18:10] <arrrghhh> mcl0vin, well... not really.  virtualbox is awesome tho.
[18:10] <Kaolc> It's a MIRC script running via bitlbee as a MSN bot to chat with people.
[18:11] <dagon666> mcl0vin: there is vmware player but it is awfully slow (at least was for me)
[18:11] <hiku> !vbox | mcl0vin
[18:11] <mcl0vin> so virtual box it is
[18:11] <mcl0vin> :)
[18:11] <coz_> mcl0vin,  hold on let me bet link
[18:11] <arrrghhh> Kaolc, do i even want to know...?
[18:11] <ikonia> mcl0vin: also look at kvm
[18:11] <hiexpo> oracle vmvirtualbox
[18:11] <Kaolc> Apparently you don't.. Just don't assume it's a botnet right away :)
[18:11] <arrrghhh> Kaolc, it just doesn't make any sense to me.  why someone would pay for that...
[18:11] <ikonia> Kaolc: ok - so back on topic, is there any additional ubuntu support you need at this time ?
[18:11] <coz_> mcl0vin,    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware
[18:12] <Ichat> after a google search i fund that with older (pre 8.04 - etc) people had often problems with  via rhine II  network cards..  -   ive got a mobo with one intergraded and  10.4  lists in lspci  that is a  VIA VT6102
[18:12] <arrrghhh> Kaolc, but he is right, that's off-topic.  you just need help connecting to it remotely, and i asked what the vps solution provides.
[18:12] <salted> coz_: thanks, I'll give that a shot
[18:12] <Kaolc> Arrggh, because he's banking 100$/day from it, but needs to leave his computer on all the time. He'd rather pay 10$/month to not leave it on.
[18:12] <Kaolc> I'll shut up for now and let you know if there's more
[18:12] <coz_> salted,  if you have issues  go to the #grub  channel ... I am sure they can help with this
[18:12] <arrrghhh> Kaolc, i don't want to know what horrible things he's doing to make money off irc bots.
[18:12] <salted> oh ok
[18:12] <salted> cool
[18:12] <salted> thanks
[18:13] <Ichat> but i dont get any network -  even worse when i try to run Network-manager the system LOCKS up  (freezes )
[18:13] <Kaolc> okay.
[18:13] <Quantum_Ion> Did you play that game Yo Frankie yet ?
[18:13] <coz_> salted,   no problem
[18:13] <alex88> hi, i've a nvidia gt 220, after installed on boot it says" "low graphics mode", but i can start gdm just from the console and it works..so it seems that's because something start before the load of the drivers?? can it be?
[18:13] <ikonia> Quantum_Ion: who are you talking to ?
[18:13] <Kaolc> Okay, so I've got Vino.. How do I run it inside wine and connect from my windows box?
[18:13] <Quantum_Ion> ikonia, to you ?
[18:14] <ikonia> Quantum_Ion: ok so this channel is for ubuntu support only, we are not interested in gaming chat
[18:14] <ikonia> Kaolc: I'd suggest connecting to ubuntu nativly with tools such as vmware
[18:14] <Quantum_Ion> ikonia, Yo Frankie is a Ubuntu Linux game
[18:14] <ikonia> Kaolc: sorry vnc
[18:14] <ikonia> Quantum_Ion: yes, this is a support channel, we are not interested in gaming chat
[18:15] <Kaolc> Okay, how would I set up a VNC client then?
[18:15] <ikonia> Kaolc: there are plenty, just install a vnc client on your workstation and connect to the server
[18:15] <ikonia> !vnc | Kaolc
[18:16] <Kaolc> So I don't have to set up anything on the server?
[18:16] <ikonia> Kaolc: just install a vnc server on the ubuntu machine, thats it
[18:16] <Kaolc> Yeah, I'm asking how to do that exactly?
[18:16] <arrrghhh> Kaolc, FreeNX is great if you have a slow cxn.  just more difficult to setup.
[18:17] <ikonia> Kaolc: open the package manager, search for "vnc" click "install
[18:17] <arrrghhh> Kaolc, read the link...
[18:17] <Kaolc> I have a super fast connection
[18:17] <Kaolc> arrgghh, I'd rather go the easy way
[18:17] <arrrghhh> Kaolc, the link walks you thru installing and configuring a vnc server.
[18:17] <arrrghhh> then use vnc, it's easier.
[18:17] <Kaolc> okay, thanks.
[18:17] <Kaolc> Will read it now
[18:17] <kimb> hi everyone
[18:17] <arrrghhh> !hi | kimb
[18:17] <mcl0vin> how do i turn the remix menu on the desktop
[18:17] <flixil> Hello. I got two different X window using nvidia on two different monitors with different resolutions. Opening a window from one monitor opens it in the current monitor, but dialogs and for instance the gsudo dialog go always to the first monitor. How can this behaviour be changed? Thanks
[18:18] <Ichat> but i dont get any network -  even worse when i try to run Network-manager the system LOCKS up  (freezes )  -
[18:19] <ubono> hi
[18:19] <Ichat> the nick is  via Rhine (II)  -  VT 6102
[18:20] <ubono> im trying to duplicate an audio cd 1:1
[18:20] <ubono> im using brasero but it want to install cdda2wa and cue2toc
[18:20] <ubono> it tries to install with some "kde-ish" stuff and doesn't manage to
[18:21] <flixil> ubono, if the question is about using a non-graphic one, use wodim or cdrecord
[18:21] <mcl0vin> how do i turn the remix menu on the desktop
[18:21] <ubono> flixil, no graphic better but doesnt work
[18:21] <ubono> i have gnome
[18:21] <WinstonSmith> flixil, do you have CCSM installed?
[18:21] <hiku> Ichat: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=522260 at the bottom of this thred is a suggestion.
[18:22] <flixil> WinstonSmith, no, but I can install it in a fly
[18:22] <Ichat> tnx for the link - im reading...
[18:22] <Kaolc> I'm still confused. Can someone post a simple command I can use from the ubuntu server to run a VNC server and then connect to it with TightVNC from my other computer?
[18:22] <hiku> Kaolc: vncserver :1
[18:22] <flixil> WinstonSmith, do you mean simple-ccsm?
[18:22] <arrrghhh> Kaolc, do you have the vnc server installed on the ubuntu box?
[18:22] <ubono> flixil, how to make a 1:1 copy with wodim?
[18:23] <Kaolc> I don't think so. I don't even know which vnc server to use
[18:23] <ubono> i dont want to save iso in hard disk before
[18:23] <ubono> just copy 1:1
[18:23] <WinstonSmith> flixil, ok because under placw windows>fixed window placement you can configure rules where windows appear
[18:23] <WinstonSmith> no the full one
[18:23] <arrrghhh> Kaolc, you obvioulsy didn't read the link.
[18:23] <kimb> what's a kernel panic -not sysncing
[18:23] <hiku> Kaolc: sudo apt-get install tightvncserver
[18:23] <Kaolc> thank you hiku
[18:23] <Kaolc> arrgghh, I skimmed it
[18:24] <hiku> Kaolc: no problem
[18:24] <hiku> Kaolc: reading in full does wonders.
[18:24] <arrrghhh> Kaolc, it tells you EXACTLY how to install & setup a secure vnc connection.
[18:24] <hiku> Kaolc: linux+new users=alot of reading =)
[18:25] <arrrghhh> yes.  lots of reading.  i still do a lot of reading.
[18:25] <Kaolc> true, but it's so tempting to just ask experienced people sometimes
[18:25] <Stavros> hello
[18:25] <Stavros> what is the correct --prefix to use when compiling programs from source?
[18:25] <hiku> Kaolc: more like the lazy way =)
[18:25] <arrrghhh> Kaolc, but you'll get differing answers, and then you won't know what you did - you won't learn.
[18:25] <hiku> Stavros: --prefix is the base path for libs, binary's etc etc.
[18:25] <flixil> WinstonSmith, i don't find any other package looking for ccsm but simple-ccsm creates a ccsm binary, maybe this is it
[18:25] <arrrghhh> Stavros, depends on what you're compilling... some don't need switches, it just depends on how you want it setup.
[18:25] <Stavros> hiku: is it standard in ubuntu, or is it per-program?
[18:25] <Stavros> ah
[18:26] <Stavros> hmm, thanks
[18:26] <Kaolc> I believe I'm pretty good at remembering what I did.. Anyway
[18:26] <Kaolc> the website says to use x11vnc -safer -localhost -nopw -once -display :0
[18:26] <Kaolc> is that right?
[18:26] <hiku> Stavros: --prefix is whatever you want the path to be
[18:26] <WinstonSmith> flixil, have a look here : http://imagebin.org/111780 and the package is : compizconfig-settings-manager
[18:26] <arrrghhh> Kaolc, that's for testing.  did you read the page?
[18:26] <Stavros> i'm getting this when i'm trying to compile/checkinstall nginx: dpkg: warning: nginx: conffile 'etc/nginx' is not a plain file or symlink (= '/etc/nginx')
[18:26] <Thqrmt> hi all trying to xfer a file from windows virtual box to my laptop (which is running ubuntu). I have WinSCP on the virtual machine. How exactly do I connect to my laptop? I have used ifconfig to optain IP but what usernam/pw
[18:26] <hiku> Stavros: so, ./configure --prefix=/usr/local/mydir will place all the files in that dir
[18:26] <arrrghhh> Kaolc, there's fantastic examples at the bottom if you want to 'skip' to it...
[18:26] <Kaolc> I skimmed it. Could I have the exact command?
[18:26] <Kaolc> okay, thanks
[18:26] <arrrghhh> Kaolc, read it.  if you have issues, ask us.
[18:26] <Scrumps_> Is it possible to make a symbolic folder to a samba share so I can trick a program into thinking that it is a folder and not a network share?
[18:26] <Stavros> hiku: hmm, i don't know where nginx is supposed to go, though
[18:26] <flixil> WinstonSmith, yes, this package is a dependency of simple-ccsm
[18:27] <hiku> Stavros: what's nginx?
[18:27] <Stavros> hiku: web server
[18:27] <hiku> Stavros: does it have a configure script in the main source dir?
[18:27] <WinstonSmith> flixil, yes but it is the full settings manager
[18:27] <hiku> Stavros: or just a make file?
[18:27] <Stavros> hiku: i did configure it, using various switches, including --conf-path=/etc/nginx/nginx.conf
[18:28] <Stavros> that file exists
[18:28] <Stavros> so base conf path is set to /etc/nginx/
[18:28] <Stavros> i have no idea why it's looking for a file there
[18:28] <ximal> Is there a way to force my computer to use a driver instead of automatically picking what it sees as the best driver ?
[18:28] <Kaolc> you said the command is for testing, and to read the bottom for examples. The command is FROM the examples.
[18:28] <arrrghhh> ximal, i said modprobe, but i asked what you're trying to do?
[18:28] <Ichat> hiku - dont blame me for asking a stupid question but:    how do i  even 'add such'    aspci=noirq
[18:28] <ximal> arrrghhh: I'm trying to force my computer to use the High Definition driver available instead of using an ATI driver
[18:29] <hiku> Stavros: so if you set the conf path, then you need to make sure the .conf is there and configured before starting the webserver if thats where it's looking for it based on your configuration options
[18:29] <Stavros> hiku: it is there and working
[18:29] <appi_uppi> hi, I am trying to login to #python channel but receiving "you need to be identified with the servise". How to fix this issue?
[18:29] <Stavros> the previous version works fine
[18:29] <Stavros> but, for some reason, dpkg expects the config prefix to be a file
[18:29] <arrrghhh> ximal, i forget how it exactly works, but you can blacklist drivers if you don't ever want them being used....
[18:29] <hiku> Stavros: hmm
[18:29] <ximal> explain to me how modprobe works again ?
[18:29] <arrrghhh> Kaolc, what is the issue...?  you're not making any sense, and you don't seem to want to help yourself.
[18:29] <ximal> !modprobe
[18:30] <Guest97349> just upgraded to 10.04 and noticed two things, Performance has dropped and I got some weird Package manager authentication error a few times
[18:30] <hiku> Stavros: wait, if you installed via source, why would dpkg have anything to do with it?
[18:30] <Stavros> hiku: it's as if it expects the config dir but then takes it to mean config file
[18:30] <arrrghhh> ximal, sorry i didn't really.  1 sec.
[18:30] <flixil> WinstonSmith, ok, fixed window placement found I'm gonna take a look
[18:30] <Stavros> hiku: i installed the package, and i want to upgrade from source
[18:30] <Guest97349> anyone else have the same after upgrading?
[18:30] <Kaolc> I'm still confused even after reading it. Could someone please just tell me what command to use on my remote computer to run the VNC server and have it all ready to connect from my other PC?
[18:30] <WinstonSmith> flixil, have a look here : http://imagebin.org/111780
[18:31] <WinstonSmith> flixil, ther you can configure the desktop monitor etc where windows should be placed
[18:31] <arrrghhh> ximal, http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/avoid-linux-kernel-module-driver-autoloading.html - gives a quick overview of blacklisting drivers...
[18:31] <hiku> Stavros: oh, so you installed the first package from the repos, and now you want to upgrade it via source.... hmm, you'd need to know the default config options the package folks used in the repo *.deb file for that app, or un-install the old dkpg version and just install and use the new source
[18:31] <arrrghhh> Kaolc, where are you getitng stuck...?
[18:31] <arrrghhh> getting
[18:31] <Kaolc> I don't know what command to use to start the VNC server
[18:31] <Stavros> hiku: hmm, let me try purging
[18:32] <hiku> Kaolc: dude, at a shell.... try typing vncserver -h
[18:32] <flixil> WinstonSmith, I don't think this is what I need. The thing is for instance, clicking on the sound applet of the toolbar and then on sound preferences (this opens gnome-sound-preferences) it always opens it in the first screen. Doing it from a console from a second screen opens it in the second screen. I wanna know why this DISPLAY variable is not kept
[18:32] <rockhopper> Semitones, did you deal with the problem?
[18:32] <arrrghhh> Kaolc, read the "accessing a family pc over the internet" - bascially what you're doing.
[18:32] <hiku> ok later all, food's here =)
[18:32] <abhinav_singh> how to change mouse pointer ....i dnt like circle mouse pointer which appear all the time
[18:32] <flixil> I don't wanna have all the system configuration applications in the second monitor now, I want them where I open them
[18:32] <perojok> guys, i can't upload anything to internet, no files, no imgs, what could it be? from no one browser
[18:32] <arrrghhh> Kaolc, this page stresses security.  so it's piping the vnc connection over ssh so it's encrypted.
[18:32] <WinstonSmith> flixil, so you want to open them always on the 1st monitor for example?
[18:33] <Guest97349> anyone had poor performance after upgrading to 10.04?
[18:33] <Ichat>     how do i  even 'add such'    aspci=noirq    thing to my boot ???
[18:33] <WinstonSmith> flixil, ok cant help you there
[18:33] <arrrghhh> Guest97349, nope.  if anything, 10.04 has been better performance-wise.
[18:33] <flixil> no, I want to open them in the active output device, but it doesn't seem to work for applications that are of system configuration or the dialogs that ask for a password. Thanks anyway :)
[18:33] <Semitones> rockhopper, no, but I read dmesg and it looks like the cd drive isn't being detected
[18:33] <WinstonSmith> np
[18:34] <Kaolc> XOpenDisplay Failed (:0)
[18:34] <Semitones> so I'm going to restart in a minute to see if it fixes it
[18:34] <rockhopper> Semitones, ok
[18:34] <arrrghhh> Kaolc, do you have a vnc server installed?  i can't believe i'm going over this again.
[18:35] <Kaolc> I did apt-get install tightvncserver
[18:35] <Kaolc> and apt-get install x11something
[18:35] <Kaolc> x11vnc *
[18:35] <arrrghhh> Kaolc, please pick one.
[18:35] <Kaolc> tightvncserver it is then
[18:35] <arrrghhh> Kaolc, so long as they're not both running at the same time, you should be fine.
[18:35] <perojok> hey!
[18:36] <Scrumps_> Where are Samba shares mounted in Ubuntu?
[18:36] <arrrghhh> Kaolc, straight from the page we sent you "tightvncserver -nolisten tcp :1" to start tightvncserver.
[18:36] <arrrghhh> Scrumps_, where ever you tell them to mount... mine is at / cuz i'm crazy.
[18:36] <WinstonSmith> flixil, you could play around with place windows>general>placement mode or multi output mode. you have a mode there : use output device with pointer
[18:37] <Scrumps_> Well, then apparently I didn't mount them correctly.
[18:37] <arrrghhh> Scrumps_, perhaps i didn't get a full explanation... samba server or client?
[18:37] <Scrumps_> samba client.
[18:37] <mcl0vin> how do i turn the remix menu on the desktop
[18:37] <Kaolc> great
[18:37] <Kaolc> Finally I got it started, I think
[18:37] <arrrghhh> Scrumps_, i apologize.  still where you tell them to mount.
[18:37] <Scrumps_> Well, what if I didn't?
[18:37] <flixil> WinstonSmith, yes, I'm playing with that right now. Thanks
[18:37] <arrrghhh> Kaolc, impressive.  if you had read the page, maybe you could've learned it on your own...
[18:37] <Scrumps_> I just used the Connect to share and from there, it connected.
[18:37] <Scrumps_> Didn't give it a mounting folder.
[18:37] <arrrghhh> Scrumps_, not sure what you mean.  you can just browse samba shares - that way they aren't mounted anywhere.
[18:37] <ximal> how bout this then ... How do I get the Hardware Drivers GUI to show more than just the fkn poster boy driver it chooses for me ?
[18:38] <Scrumps_> That is probably what I did then. How do I mount it somewhere then?
[18:38] <ximal> The hardware drivers gui used to show more than 1 choice to be the driver .. and it's making me fkn sick to try and figure it out ...
[18:38] <arrrghhh> ximal, that only displayed "restricted" or non-free drivers.
[18:38] <arrrghhh> Scrumps_, you want to mount it at boot?   via fstab?
[18:38] <ximal> i get that arrghh but i have more than 1 driver installed and it's only showing 1
[18:38] <Scrumps_> Yeah, that would be nice.
[18:38] <guest0001> hello again
[18:38] <ximal> wtf is up with that ? how do i point it to ALL downloaded drivers
[18:38] <arrrghhh> ximal, more than one driver for what?
[18:39] <arrrghhh> ximal, all the drivers are in the kernel (for the most part)
[18:39] <arrrghhh> Scrumps_, 1 sec.  are these two ubuntu machines, or is the server a windows box?
[18:39] <ximal> I am trying to get the radeonhd driver to be the one in use
[18:39] <mcl0vin> !md5sum
[18:39] <k-rad> i'm wondering if i can get some feedback.  what is more optimized for videos watching an ati rv620 or a nvidia quadro nv290 (supposed to be like 8500gt or so)
[18:39] <ximal> not the fkn ati ..
[18:39] <ximal> not the fkn amd
[18:39] <Scrumps_> One is a windows server, one is a ubuntu box.
[18:39] <ximal> not the fkn anything else but hd
[18:39] <FloodBot3> ximal: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:39] <arrrghhh> Scrumps_, i see.  check out this page - http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/configure-a-system-to-automount-a-samba-share-with-etcfstab/
[18:39] <guest0001> i tried the wifidocs wireless troubleshooting documentation and to no avail
[18:40] <guest0001> i am having a problem with wireless networking on ubuntu 10.4
[18:40] <arrrghhh> !ati | ximal
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> !details | guest0001
[18:40] <arrrghhh> what does a parsnip in action look like?
[18:40] <flixil> WinstonSmith, doesn't work. it may be a real bug
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> arrrghhh: damn fine ;)
[18:41] <arrrghhh> i guess i depends on what kind of action we're takling about... hrm, i'll stop there.  sorry.
[18:41] <guest0001> i am not able to connect to the internet in ubuntu 10.4
[18:41] <arrrghhh> lol
[18:41] <kemmotar> hi
[18:41] <guest0001> what does "!details" mean?
[18:41] <arrrghhh> guest0001, yes but we need more info.  did it work from the livecd?
[18:41] <guest0001> no
[18:41] <guest0001> it didn't
[18:41] <arrrghhh> guest0001, well that should've been a good indicator that you'll have to do some work - and it may not work...
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> guest0001: does your wireless network show when you left click network managr
[18:41] <guest0001> no
[18:42] <guest0001> it doesn't
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> guest0001: if you run: sudo lshw -C network ,you will see your network devices. The product line for your wireless will help you find guides
[18:43] <Scrumps_> arrrghhh, and after I am done adding that to fstab, how do I check to see if it has applied correctly?
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> guest0001: if it says: Broadcom 43xx then if you get your system on a wired connection, you will be offered the driver
[18:43] <arrrghhh> Scrumps_, well, reboot or just do a "mount -a"
[18:43] <arrrghhh> i think you have to do that with sudo...
[18:43] <kemmotar> i need some videoeditor, byt it must be like Windows Movie Maker, and it must make video from photo and music
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> Scrumps_: unmount the device then run: sudo mount -a
[18:44] <guest0001> but i have no way of getting on a wired connection
[18:44] <guest0001> it is broadcom
[18:44] <arrrghhh> kemmotar, if you need windows movie maker, then perhaps you should just use the windows movie maker.
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> guest0001: then you will have a tough time. Wired connections help LOTS
[18:44] <flixil> WinstonSmith, Thanks anyway
[18:44] <Kaolc> unable to connect, connection refused. Looks like I messed up...
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | guest0001
[18:44] <guest0001> thank you so much
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> guest0001: that facoid shows a way you can use the livecd to install too
[18:45] <flixil> I thought the driver is called b43 now and not bcm43xx
[18:45] <arrrghhh> Kaolc, now we get into ports... do you have the ports open?  if you pipe it thru ssh it'll be much easier - i'm assuming the vps gives you port 22/ssh....
[18:45] <Scrumps_> arrrghhh, ActionParsnip, mount: mount point /mnt/samba does not exist
[18:45] <Kaolc> Yeah, 22 is open. How do I pipe them through 22?
[18:45] <Scrumps_> Do I need to make a folder? I assumed that it would create the folder automatically.
[18:45] <arrrghhh> Scrumps_, you have to create the folder where you're mounting.
[18:45] <kemmotar> arrrghhh, i need it analog in ubuntu
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> Scrumps_: sudo mkdir /mnt/samba
[18:45] <arrrghhh> nope
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> Scrumps_: the mount point MUST exist. It is not mounts job to make mount points
[18:46] <arrrghhh> Scrumps_, it's a security thing.
[18:46] <arrrghhh> kemmotar, not sure what you mean by that.  is english your first language?  no offense, sometimes it's just easier to communicate in your native language.
[18:46] <Scrumps_> Alright... well, after making the mount point, this popped up: http://pastebin.ca/1927849
[18:47] <Kaolc> arrrghhh, how do I pipe it through 22?
[18:47] <arrrghhh> Kaolc, lol it's all on that page dude!
[18:47] <sachael> anyone running zathura on 10.04?
[18:47] <Kaolc> can you link it again then please?
[18:48] <arrrghhh> Scrumps_, can you paste your fstab?  you need smbfs after the mount point...
[18:48] <arrrghhh> !vnc | Kaolc
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> Scrumps_: I strongly suggest you remove the space in the share name of the folder. It'll make life a lot easier
[18:48] <arrrghhh> Scrumps_, you don't _have_ to.  but it does make things easier.
[18:48] <arrrghhh> i figured out how to do it, you have to put a \40 in for the space...
[18:48] <Scrumps_> http://pastebin.ca/1927851
[18:49] <Scrumps_> Oh... I thought it was %20, alright... hold on.
[18:49] <n0a1ias> is there anything apt-get cant do? iv never needed to compile from source!
[18:49] <Kaolc> I don't see anything about piping nor tunneling on that page.
[18:49] <ActionParsnip> n0a1ias: depends on you ppas and repos
[18:49] <arrrghhh> Scrumps_, yea... kinda odd, i know.
[18:50] <blackstar> any know how to make calls on ubuntu using magic jack
[18:50] <Scrumps_> Well, arrrghhh replacing it with \40 didn't work.
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> n0a1ias: if you have a driver which needs compiling with no ppa, you may need to compile. Otherwise its incrdibly rare
[18:50] <Semitones> I think my cd rom is /dev/sr0 but I'm not sure
[18:50] <arrrghhh> Scrumps_, i thought that was it.  you removed the space entirely right?
[18:50] <Scrumps_> Yeah, there aren't any spaces.
[18:50] <n0a1ias> ActionParsnip, yea, i was giving it a compliment saying that, stock even, it kicks ass
[18:50] <ActionParsnip> Semitones: you can check with: sudo lshw -C drive
[18:50] <Scrumps_> I guess I can remove the space from the share though, it isn't that big of a deal.
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> n0a1ias: does what it says on the tin :)
[18:51] <Semitones> ActionParsnip, for some reason fstab things /dev/hda is my cdrom but it's not, can I delete it from fstab?
[18:51] <arrrghhh> Scrumps_, that would be easier... i thought it was \40.  maybe /40...?  1 sec.
[18:51] <brad_> ActionParsnip: wanted to say, that sudo apt-get update and sudo-apt-get upgrade fixed the problem with update manager and software center not running
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> Semitones: you should use UUIDs. They are less likely to cause mount problems
[18:51] <Kaolc> arrgghhh, I still don't get it. Nothing on how to pipe through 22 on that page.
[18:51] <Semitones> ActionParsnip, sudo lshw -C /dev/sr0 returned PCI
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> brad_: nice, glad you got the gold
[18:52] <Kaolc> also how would I pipe through 22 when it's in use?
[18:52] <arrrghhh> Scrumps_, sorry it's \040
[18:52] <xibalba> hello everyone
[18:52] <Scrumps_> Even removing the space it still brings up that error.
[18:52] <xibalba> i had some questions regarding hard drives and the device names
[18:52] <Semitones> ActionParsnip, but mount says: /dev/sr0 on /media/CDROM_ type iso9660 (ro,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks,uid=1001,gid=1001,iocharset=utf8,mode=0400,dmode=0500)
[18:52] <arrrghhh> Scrumps_, did you change the mount?
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> Semitones: no. The command is: sudo lshw -C drive ,not sudo lshw -C /dev/sr0
[18:52] <xibalba> does the device name tell me anything about the channel and position the hard drive is on ?
[18:52] <xibalba> like /dev/sda
[18:52] <xibalba> is this IDE channel 1 ?
[18:53] <ActionParsnip> xibalba: pata ;)
[18:53] <xibalba> if it's /dev/sda1 is it IDE channel 1 position 2 ?
[18:53] <xibalba> xibalba : yeh pata
[18:53] <Scrumps_> What do you mean? Everything is the same, I have been changing the Torrent Downloads to modify the \040 and to try to remove the space, that is it.
[18:53] <Semitones> ActionParsnip, I tried it with drive but it did the same thing
[18:53] <arrrghhh> Kaolc, i'll give you a hint... it's related to the ssh -L command.
[18:53] <Kaolc> hooray, hints.
[18:53] <xibalba> ActionParsnip : do you know where i can find some docs on this
[18:53] <arrrghhh> Scrumps_, well you have to modify the share on the windows box.
[18:53] <ActionParsnip> xibalba: its a pata drive, hda are parallel, sda are sata/scsi
[18:53] <Semitones> ActionParsnip, it says PCI (sysfs) and then that disappears
[18:53] <arrrghhh> Kaolc, you're determined NOT to learn aren't you.
[18:53] <Scrumps_> Yeah, I modified the share on the Windows Box too.
[18:53] <WinstonSmith> Scrumps_, do you have the package : smbfs installed?
[18:53] <blackstar> hello, any know how to make calls on ubuntu using magic jack
[18:53] <blackstar> ?
[18:53] <xibalba> ActionParsnip : sorry i ment hda then
[18:53] <kemmotar> arrrghhh, no, English isn't my first language, so i'm so sorry, but i don't know anyone who can help me... i asking for analog of windows movie maker in ubuntu, because i need make a video from several pictures
[18:54] <xibalba> ActionParsnip : know where i can find some info on how to identify which drive is whh ?
[18:54] <ActionParsnip> Semitones: try disk instead of drive then
[18:54] <arrrghhh> Scrumps_, hrm.... so there's NO spaces in the share at all?  on fstab or the windows box?
[18:54] <Scrumps_> Doing locate smbfs, shows 5 entries.
[18:54] <Scrumps_> Correct arrrghhh
[18:54] <ActionParsnip> xibalba: sudo fdisk -l; sudo blkid ,should help
[18:54] <arrrghhh> kemmotar, honestly video editing isn't so great in linux...
[18:54] <arrrghhh> Scrumps_, and you get the same error...?
[18:54] <Kaolc> You know, the one thing that makes me not want to start using ubuntu every day is that when I have a problem, I'm always directed to some page and have to waste hours trying to get shit working. I'm sure that's discouraged a lot of new people. People always just say lrn2google.. Anyways, I'm out I guess, I give up
[18:54] <mcl0vin> does virtualbox have Infrastructure web access like VMware
[18:54] <Kaolc> arrgghhh, encyclopediadramatica.com/offended
[18:54] <xibalba> ActionParsnip : what do those commands do ?
[18:54] <WinstonSmith> Scrumps_, did this come up  : /sbin/mount.smbfs?
[18:54] <Semitones> ActionParsnip, that works -- it shows the cdrom
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> arrrghhh: depends on the app (or apps used)
[18:55] <arrrghhh> ActionParsnip, well recommend some to kemmotar !
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> xibalba: show partitions and the UUIDs of the partitions
[18:55] <xibalba> so how would i figure out which drive is which in the system based off of that ?
[18:55] <xibalba> i need to remove 1 pata hdd
[18:55] <xibalba> and trying to identify the right drive, there are 4 in the system
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> arrrghhh: I don't know any but if you use a few you can get where you want
[18:55] <Semitones> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/485063/
[18:56] <Scrumps_> WinstonSmith, no.
[18:56] <Scrumps_> I am using Samba4 if that makes any difference.
[18:56] <WinstonSmith> Scrumps_, then do a sudo apt-get install smbfs please
[18:56] <arrrghhh> Scrumps_, that may make things more difficult... any reason you're not using 3?  also, have you tried putting in the server's IP instead of the hostname?
[18:56] <Semitones> it has lots of logical names
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> Semitones: those /dev names are the IDs for the optical drive. It doesn't list /dev/hda for the optical drive at all
[18:57] <WinstonSmith> arrrghhh, smbfs is not part of samba its an extra package
[18:57] <Semitones> ActionParsnip, so should I modify my fstab?
[18:57] <magicianlord> Semitones: yes
[18:57] <arrrghhh> WinstonSmith, i did not know that... i guess i don't remember dealing with it.
[18:58] <Scrumps_> Alright, installed smbfs. arrrghhh no, I just downloaded that latest one.
[18:58] <Scrumps_> mount error(110): Connection timed out
[18:58] <Scrumps_> Refer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g. man mount.cifs)
[18:58] <Scrumps_> However, I can still access the share through nautilus.
[18:58] <arrrghhh> Scrumps_, replace the server hostname with the IP.
[18:58] <WinstonSmith> arrrghhh, i had this problem before ... the superblock error msg ... apt-get install smbfs fixed that
[18:58] <Semitones> magicianlord, should I just delete the cdrom entry or change it to /dev/sr0
[18:58] <xibalba> hey
[18:58] <xibalba> how are SCSI drives labeled?
[18:58] <xibalba> anyone know the naming convention ?
[18:58] <WinstonSmith> Scrumps_, then do a sudo apt-get install smbfs please
[18:58] <xibalba> like PATA /dev/hda is the 1st ide controller master
[18:59] <xibalba> how is SCSI setup ?
[18:59] <Scrumps_> WinstonSmith, already did. :)
[18:59] <xibalba> anyone ?
[18:59] <WinstonSmith> Scrumps_, sry was typing
[18:59] <Scrumps_> But, replacing it with the IP solved the timeout.
[18:59] <WinstonSmith> Scrumps_, but now yiu have got an other error?
[19:00] <Scrumps_> No, it mounted, I don't know how well it will do with anything else though. I am about twenty minutes late for work.
[19:00] <Scrumps_> Haha.
[19:00] <Scrumps_> Thank you for the help, I will be back later.
[19:01] <WinstonSmith> cya
[19:01] <arrrghhh> seemed like a combination of both.
[19:01] <arrrghhh> Scrumps_, to solve the IP issue you have to modify the hosts file on the client.
[19:01] <dri245> May 24 of YR12  	 Waffen SS (7:8) invaded Commanding his eyes (6:31) and captured 871 acres of land.
[19:01] <WinstonSmith> arrrghhh, well spaces in file names never helped anybody :O
[19:01] <dri245> wrong window, sorry
[19:02] <arrrghhh> WinstonSmith, not in linux, that's for sure.... the \040 worked for me in fstab tho.
[19:02] <WinstonSmith> arrrghhh, yes there a ways around it... but its so much easier to use a underscore or dot i think
[19:03] <arrrghhh> WinstonSmith, i guess... i had folders that could not change - other clients were already using them, so to keep from changing all the clients, i just modified this client with that \040 trick...
[19:04] <n0a1ias> anybody know how to use PuTTy?
[19:04] <arrrghhh> as usual in linux, there's 30 ways to do one thing.  none of them are necessairly 'wrong', just a different way of doing things.
[19:04] <scotts59> ol in my system tray and it does not seem to be in the add-to-tray items.  How do I get it back?
[19:04] <arrrghhh> n0a1ias, yes, but this is an ubuntu support channel.  we can help you connect to an ubuntu box perhaps?
[19:04] <WinstonSmith> arrrghhh, right on the spot ... 1 of the reasons why i just love it ... infinite possibilities lol
[19:04] <scotts59> I lost the volume control
[19:05] <dmex> !putty | n0a1ias
[19:05] <arrrghhh> WinstonSmith, just like programming!  i know that's why i love it as well.  as a newbie, it's overwhelming tho.  i guess that's why linux will never take over as 'the' desktop platform.
[19:05] <n0a1ias> arrrghhh, im on ubuntu, connecting to ubuntu, and i keep getting connection refused errors, with default settings, and shh
[19:05] <n0a1ias> ssh**
[19:05] <arrrghhh> n0a1ias, putty is a windows application, and windows only.  ssh is built-in to linux...
[19:06] <WinstonSmith> arrrghhh, yes its getting better though. but me i just love tinkering & fiddling with something :D
[19:06] <n0a1ias> arrrghhh, i just di a sudo apt-get install putty
[19:06] <arrrghhh> n0a1ias, now for network questions.  are both ubuntu boxes (server & client) on the same LAN?
[19:06] <scotts59>  (Repeat, but not chopped-up this time) I lost the volume control  in my system tray and it does not seem to be in the add-to-tray items.  How do I get it back?
[19:06] <WinstonSmith> n0a1ias, which username do you use?
[19:06] <n0a1ias> well one is on lan and the other is on wifi, to the same router
[19:07] <arrrghhh> ok so same LAN.
[19:07] <arrrghhh> and i guess there is a putty package for linux... but you don't need it.
[19:07] <n0a1ias> wait! it worked that time. sweet
[19:07] <arrrghhh> n0a1ias, do you have openssh installed on the server?
[19:07] <n0a1ias> thanks for the help though
[19:07] <harmandeep> hi guys , i m on Ubuntu 10.04.1 x64 , i was trying to alter mine /etc/resolv.conf   using .... $ sudo `echo "nameserver 192.168.32.254"` > /etc/resolv.conf     and the error is            bash: /etc/resolv.conf: Permission denied             .....   however when i execute same command as ROOT , it works ,   why so ?
[19:07] <n0a1ias> haha
[19:08] <arrrghhh> lol ok
[19:08] <dr3af> harmandeep: use sudo su first
[19:08] <arrrghhh> harmandeep, why don't you just edit the file and paste it in?  but the issue is permissons.
[19:10] <harmandeep> dr3af:   if i running the command as SUDO , isn't the same as running the command as   SUDO SU   ???
[19:10] <WinstonSmith> harmandeep, why do you have the backticks?
[19:10] <harmandeep> sorry , backsticks are TYPO ...
[19:10] <WinstonSmith> kk :)
[19:11] <harmandeep> backticks
[19:11] <DoubleString> Hey guys
[19:11] <DoubleString> is it possible to modificate
[19:11] <DoubleString> indication applet
[19:12] <DoubleString> so that instead of Evolution mail client
[19:12] <harmandeep> dr3af:  please answer ???
[19:12] <DoubleString> I could get gmail in default browser?
[19:12] <Pici> harmandeep: sudo does not pass IO redirection operators.  The proper command should be: echo "some text" | sudo tee /path/to/file     (use tee -a to append to file)
[19:12] <xangua> DoubleString: http://lifehacker.com/392287/set-firefox-3-to-launch-gmail-for-mailto-links
[19:13] <DoubleString> xangua, no no no
[19:13] <DoubleString> it goes for links
[19:13] <DoubleString> not for the indicator applet
[19:13] <dr3af> harmandeep: with sudo u get SOME permitions,but not all the power of root.
[19:13] <arrrghhh> DoubleString, you could use a ff extension like webmail notifier?
[19:13] <harmandeep> Pici: is that due to the reason that REDIRECTION Operators execute first ( and their Security Context is without SUDO in mine case ) ???
[19:13] <DoubleString> sec
[19:14] <xangua> or you could just sync gmail with evolution DoubleString
[19:14] <DoubleString> you mean use gmail via evolution?
[19:14] <Pici> harmandeep: its basically that the left side of the operator executes with sudo privs, but the other side does not.
[19:14] <vipinb> hi all
[19:15] <DoubleString> gmail has pretty much the best handling client for me
[19:15] <guest0001> ok i have a wired connection and i need help getting my wireless internet connected using ubuntu 10.4 i can't connect to the internet with my wireless modem
[19:15] <Newb1e> !info
[19:15] <DoubleString> with grouping emails from the same sender
[19:16] <guest0001> i was told earlier if i have a wired connection someone could fix it
[19:16] <ActionParsnip> guest0001: get fully updated with: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:16] <Semitones> Is there a program to monitor the strength of local wireless networks?
[19:16] <Muelli> Semitones: yes
[19:16] <guest0001> thank you
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> Semitones: sudo iwlist scan ,will show the networks. You can grep for the signal strength bits as you need. Network manager et al will also show the signal strength graphically
[19:17] <vipinb> how can I compile Totem from source code
[19:17] <harmandeep> and what would the cmd precisely with TWO Sudo's ( one for ECHO , other for Redirection ) for sudo `echo "nameserver 192.168.32.254"` > /etc/resolv.conf  ????
[19:17] <vipinb> Can anyone help me
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> guest0001: once updated, reboot and you should use the hardware driver app in system -> administration to install the driver
[19:17] <Muelli> vipinb: use jhbuild
[19:18] <DoubleString> xangua, arrrghhh to replace the indication applet
[19:18] <DoubleString> http://a.imageshack.us/img843/8125/screenshotgw.png
[19:18] <Muelli> vipinb: or apt-get source totem
[19:18] <guest0001> thanks you very much
[19:18] <arrrghhh> Semitones, may want to check out kismet.
[19:18] <xibalba> hey guys
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> harmandeep: the sudo doesn't traverse the > character you need to use the tee command
[19:18] <xibalba> i ahve a linux server right now
[19:18] <arrrghhh> DoubleString, why can't you setup evolution to check your gmail?  then that icon would be for your gmal...
[19:18] <ximal> Whenever I try to use " sudo aticonfig --initial " i get " Found fglrx primary device section
[19:18] <ximal>  Unable to find any supported Screen sections " Any ideas please ?
[19:18] <xibalba> with a /dev/sdc and /dev/sdd
[19:18] <xibalba> how do i tell which scsi device they match up to ?
[19:18] <vipinb> Muelli> can you help me how to use that
[19:18] <xibalba> like
[19:18] <xibalba> are they /dev/sg2 or /dev/sg3 ?
[19:18] <DoubleString> arrrghhh, because evolution is not comfy for e-mails
[19:19] <DoubleString> esp google-groups ones
[19:19] <ximal> arrrghhh: did you see what i put in ?
[19:19] <vipinb> Because I have changed some code in totem-youtube.c file
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> ximal: sudo lshw -C disk ,may help. As well as: sudo fdisk -l
[19:19] <arrrghhh> DoubleString, ok... so use a firefox addon or something.  i use one called webmail notifier.
[19:19] <Muelli> vipinb: yes. but google does a way better job than I do :-
[19:19] <Muelli> )
[19:19] <DoubleString> uhm
[19:19] <ximal> ActionParsnip: what do I do with the info from the lshw ?
[19:20] <xibalba> fdisk -l shows only /dev/sdd
[19:20] <DoubleString> I simply used a bash command for default e-mail
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> xibalba: if you are running server, the ati card won't need configuring as it uses a text based interface.
[19:20] <DoubleString> to forward to gmail
[19:20] <Semitones> Muelli, awesome! what's it called
[19:20] <ActionParsnip> ximal: read it..
[19:20] <arrrghhh> DoubleString, you check your email with a bash command...?
[19:20] <DoubleString> sec
[19:20] <arrrghhh> you're not making any sense.
[19:20] <ximal> I did but it's only showing me the hard disk info
[19:20] <DoubleString> I check my e-mail when I open g-mail
[19:20] <xibalba> ActionParsnip : http://pastebin.com/jNUW87jX
[19:20] <luis__> some body can help me
[19:20] <xibalba> check that out
[19:20] <Muelli> Semitones: iwlist or NetworkManager :-)
[19:20] <xibalba> it doesn't tell me which /dev/sg device it is using
[19:20] <xangua> !away | micke-away
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> ximal: it should show any partitions and disks visible to the kernel
[19:21] <luis__> i need install a canon 1800
[19:21] <xibalba> ActionParsnip : can you check out that link
[19:21] <ximal> I am trying to get VIDEO not DISKS or PARTITIONS working
[19:21] <luis__> printer
[19:21] <ximal> sudo aticonfig --initial
[19:21] <ximal> Found fglrx primary device section
[19:21] <ximal>  Unable to find any supported Screen sections
[19:21] <DoubleString> arrrghhh, every time
[19:21] <WinstonSmith> !ask | luis_
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> luis__: checked the canon site
[19:21] <ximal> see ?
[19:21] <DoubleString> I get a e-mail prompt
[19:21] <harmandeep> OK got it Guys , thanks ActionParsnip \ Pici \ dr3af
[19:21] <arrrghhh> ActionParsnip, i think you mixed him up with xibalba
[19:21] <DoubleString> firefox https://mail.google.com/mail?view=cm&tf=0&to=`echo $1 | sed ’s/mailto://’`
[19:22] <DoubleString> is prompt
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> ximal: sorry mixing nicks
[19:22] <harmandeep> FGFGFGF
[19:22] <DoubleString> and goes to gmail
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> arrrghhh: yeah, just reviewed
[19:22] <luis__> #ubuntu-es log
[19:22] <ximal> yeah and i could really use some help with this .. i am getting sick from trying to make this work
[19:22] <arrrghhh> ActionParsnip, lol this room moves fast.
[19:22] <harmandeep>  L
[19:22] <WinstonSmith> !es | luis_
[19:22] <arrrghhh> DoubleString, so you want a link on your top bar that kicks off that command basically?
[19:22] <ActionParsnip> ximal: you could form an xorg.conf in root recovery mode and tweak from there
[19:23] <ximal> i wish I knew how to turn off join and quit notifications on pidgin ..
[19:23] <ximal> huh ? tweak ?
[19:23] <DoubleString> ahh
[19:23] <DoubleString> arrrghhh,
[19:23] <ubuntu_> hi , how can i find what driver am i using for my wireless card?
[19:23] <xibalba> hey i really need some assistance
[19:23] <harmandeep> %c4 ;
[19:23] <xibalba> it's probably an easy thing too
[19:23] <DoubleString> I pasted the screenshot
[19:23] <luis__> #ubuntu-es
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> ximal: its a plugin which comes with a default pidgin
[19:23] <harmandeep>  f
[19:23] <xibalba> i'mj ust trying to figure out what scsi device /dev/sdc matches to
[19:23] <arrrghhh> xibalba, sudo fdisk -l
[19:23] <WinstonSmith> !es | luis_
[19:23] <DoubleString> http://a.imageshack.us/img843/8125/screenshotgw.png
[19:23] <arrrghhh> DoubleString, so what, i'm looking at that now.
[19:23] <DoubleString> this is the default indication applet
[19:23] <xibalba> arrrghhh : did that, thanks but it does not show me
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> ximal: main pidgin window press ALT+U and enable the join/part plugin
[19:23] <WinstonSmith> luis_ Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.
[19:23] <xibalba> which raw scsi device
[19:23] <xibalba> it is attached to
[19:24] <DoubleString> when you install ubuntu
[19:24] <Jordan_U> ubuntu_: lspci -k
[19:24] <arrrghhh> xibalba, uhm i'm not sure what you're asking.  ls -lah /dev/disk/by-uuid?
[19:24] <xibalba> arrrghhh : i'm trying to see if /dev/sdc matches /dev/sg3
[19:24] <arrrghhh> i don't think that's what you want tho.
[19:24] <xangua> ximal: try 'irc helper' and 'irc more' plugins, if they are not by default install pidgin-plugin-pack and restart pidgin
[19:24] <DoubleString> yet uses only evolution as e-mail browser, but not the default browser
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> xibalba: could try: dmesg | less ,and read
[19:24] <ximal> xangua: got it already thanks
[19:25] <arrrghhh> DoubleString, yes, that's a link for evolution.  you can add a shortcut link to that bar, but you won't be able to use that icon.
[19:25] <ubuntu_> Jordan_U thanks
[19:25] <spiky> ok if I use trl+Alt+F1 etc I get a black screen,if I type a command Blindly the command works. Any idea why text is not visible?
[19:25] <SoulDewMan> hello
[19:25] <Jordan_U> xibalba: ls -l /dev/disk/by-path/
[19:25] <SoulDewMan> I have a problem with ubuntu server
[19:25] <DoubleString> you know what? nvm
[19:25] <eriksson25> Anyone could help me updating from 8.10 giving me An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade error
[19:25] <xibalba> Jordan_U : thanks
[19:25] <xibalba> trying that now
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> !details | SoulDewMan
[19:26] <Jordan_U> xibalba: To determine what drive (i.e. serial number) "ls -l /dev/disk/by-id/"
[19:26] <xibalba> i'm just trying to find out
[19:26] <arrrghhh> DoubleString, just make a shortcut for that command and put it in the top bar.
[19:26] <xibalba> which sdd and sdc matches which scsi drive
[19:26] <xibalba> so i know to pull out the right drive
[19:26] <xibalba> int his vmware server
[19:26] <FloodBot3> xibalba: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:26] <ActionParsnip> eriksson25: intrepid isn't supported anymore
[19:26] <Jordan_U> xibalba: You're welcome.
[19:26] <DoubleString> arrrghhh, it doesn't make sense
[19:26] <SoulDewMan> my version is 10.04, and my problem is that the screen is shifted to the right
[19:26] <xibalba> by-path only shows sdd and sdc too
[19:26] <DoubleString> it'ls like putting all the program shortcuts
[19:26] <glamvian> hallo
[19:26] <DoubleString> when you have them in menu
[19:26] <xibalba> Jordan_U
[19:26] <stinger05> hi, is there a battery check utility for Ubuntu which would tell me if my laptop battery is defected or not ?
[19:26] <xibalba> would you mind checking out a paste bni ?
[19:27] <arrrghhh> DoubleString, what doesn't make sense...?  it's an indicator icon.
[19:27] <arrrghhh> !enter | xibalba
[19:27] <crucialhoax> Im using the faenza icon theme and the most recent update of it uses the ugly gnome foot as the menu icon, can I change it?
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> SoulDewMan: try using the framebuffer in you boot. Or set the vga option etc. The text may centralise
[19:27] <BigC> is there any advantages of installing ubuntu using the alternate installer over the normal installer?
[19:27] <xangua> stinger05: normally if it is, you will see a notification that says it
[19:27] <eriksson25> Actionparsnip: How can I upgrade from 8.10 to 10.04 ?
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> crucialhoax: could find the image in the theme pack and change it
[19:27] <xangua> something like 'your battery old old bla bla bla' stinger05
[19:27] <arrrghhh> BigC, if you have issues with the main installer - like an old machine.
[19:28] <xibalba> Jordan_U : can you check out the following link -- http://pastebin.com/NTFct3nw
[19:28] <crucialhoax> ActionParsnip: I tried but I just screwed it up.
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> !eol| eriksson25
[19:28] <arrrghhh> BigC, and you won't get any live functionalities, so if you don't care about that...
[19:28] <xibalba> ActionParsnip : can you check out this link ----  http://pastebin.com/NTFct3nw
[19:28] <sachael> anyone built Zathura pdf reader on ubuntu 10.04? or got a deb?
[19:28] <xibalba> xibalba : it's pretty simple , i9 just want to know if /dev/sdc matches /dev/sg2
[19:28] <xangua> crucialhoax: see the instructions inside the theme to customoze it
[19:28] <xibalba> and so forth
[19:28] <eriksson25> thx, will look
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> eriksson25: you will need to upgrade through all the releases up to 10.04 . It'll be faster to clean install
[19:28] <BigC> yeah its not an old computer or anything, but i was just wondering if there were any advantages
[19:29] <crucialhoax> xangua: There arent any instructions for that particular theme :/
[19:29] <xibalba> Jordan_U : any thoughts?
[19:29] <arrrghhh> BigC, i think it may install a little quicker... but i don't think it's significant.  unless the hardware is ancient.
[19:29] <eriksson25> Well, not a good option since its my server runing everything. Will update a step at a time.
[19:30] <jamescarr> ループとかリストとか積極!?
[19:30] <xibalba> too much flows through this channel
[19:30] <xibalba> hard to get help
[19:30] <xibalba> ;/
[19:30] <imanc> how do you get a flaming animated cursor in ubuntu?
[19:30] <jamescarr> ユーザーって何かまとまりあるイメージ。グループとかリス... トとか積極的に作ってるよね。
[19:30] <SoulDewMan> no Japanese, please
[19:30] <arrrghhh> eriksson25, good luck.
[19:30] <BigC> ok arrrghhh but my laptop is brand new, so i was just wondering
[19:30] <arrrghhh> BigC, ok... it's a text-based installer...
[19:30] <marlene> ciao
[19:30] <marlene> !list
[19:30] <jamescarr> SoulDewMan, イメージ?
[19:30] <arrrghhh> xibalba, you need to look at the output of those commands and figure it out... what do you need?   you should have all the output.
[19:30] <IdleOne> !jp | jamescarr
[19:31] <xangua> crucialhoax: there is a readme......have you read it¿
[19:31] <BigC> I can use a text based installer, I did that with Debian once, and it was pretty easy, so I'll just go and test it out now in virtual box
[19:31] <arrrghhh> ok
[19:31] <crucialhoax> xangua: Is it /usr/share/icons/Faenza?
[19:31] <xibalba> arrrghhh : the onyl thing i cannot see in the output is if the /dev/sdd device matches the RAW SCSI device /dev/sg3 -- it might just be a common understanding a matches 0 , b matches 1, so on and so forth. i'mj ust trying to find a way to verify this.
[19:31] <xibalba> arrrghhh : i hope that makes sense
[19:32] <arrrghhh> xibalba, what are you trying to achieve?   what are you doing exactly?  i've heard you want to verify this or that, but what is it you're really trying to do?
[19:32] <xangua> crucialhoax: ¿¿ no idea, I just downloaded it fromdeviantart
[19:32] <xibalba> arrrghhh : remove the right SCSI drive out of this vmware server
[19:32] <ActionParsnip> xibalba: means very little to me dude, sorry
[19:32] <crucialhoax> xangua: Ohhh okay. I am using the ppa so Ill check it out thanks
[19:32] <ximal> hey guys
[19:33] <arrrghhh> xibalba, you'll have to compare that output to the output of "mount"
[19:33] <TylerSmith> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 10.04 from a partition with the ubuntu installer on it.  I added a GRUB entry (http://pastie.org/1122812) for it and it starts booting (I've got it fairly far I think), but it dies.  Any idea what I'm messing up?
[19:33] <ActionParsnip> TylerSmith: if you are using an ISO on a partition, did you md5 test it?
[19:34] <xibalba> arrrghhh : yeah that only shows it in the form of sda/sdb/etc...
[19:34] <spiky> ok if I use trl+Alt+F1 etc I get a black screen,if I type a command Blindly the command works. Any idea why text is not visible?
[19:34] <TylerSmith> ActionParsnip: I md5'd my ISO, then mounted it and copied it to the new partition
[19:34] <arrrghhh> xibalba, you have to compare them.
[19:34] <arrrghhh> spiky, off the screen perhaps?
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> TylerSmith: copied what?
[19:35] <TylerSmith> The files from the mounted image
[19:35] <ActionParsnip> TylerSmith: that won't work. The iso has special boot data which will be lost
[19:35] <ActionParsnip> TylerSmith: grub2 can boot iso files as they stand so you can do it that way
[19:36] <TylerSmith> ActionParsnip: I thought so, but I thought beginning to boot was a sign it worked.
[19:36] <TylerSmith> So if I just put the ISO on it I can boot from it?
[19:36] <Semitones> Is there a program similar to iStumbler or netstumbler for linux? I want to be able to watch the strength of area WLANs over time
[19:37] <spiky> arrrghhh, is  there a way to adjust that?
[19:37] <ActionParsnip> TylerSmith: yes, just the iso and reference it in grub
[19:37] <arrrghhh> spiky, i would suggest checking your monitor first.  most new lcd's have an 'autofit' or 'autoadjust' feature.
[19:37] <xibalba> how do you start/stop services in ubuntu ?
[19:37] <xibalba> i know in fedora you have the "servicE" command
[19:38] <WinstonSmith> Semitones, you could try wifi radar. not sure if ti does what uou want though
[19:38] <dmex> Semitones: kismet
[19:38] <arrrghhh> xibalba, service <service> stop/start
[19:38] <xibalba> i dont have service installed
[19:38] <arrrghhh> Semitones, i already suggested kismet
[19:38] <arrrghhh> xibalba, are you on 10.04?
[19:38] <Jordan_U> xibalba: It seems that the scsi device matches the device name from the /dev/disk/by-path/ output, i.e. sda is the first, sdb the second, and sdc the third.
[19:38] <xibalba> feisty fawn
[19:38] <Semitones> alright I'll try it :)
[19:38] <TylerSmith> ActionParsnip: Awesome man thanks.  I'll be back soon with results (hopefully).
[19:38] <xibalba> Jordan_U : so SDA matches the raw scsi device /dev/sg0 ?
[19:38] <spiky> arrrghhh, when grub loads all is ok with that its just when I switch from desktop to prompt
[19:39] <WinstonSmith> xibalba, /etc/init.d/<service> start/stop
[19:39] <arrrghhh> xibalba, it's /etc/init.d/<service> start/stop/etc - but that's an unsupported distro...
[19:39] <xibalba> thanks guys
[19:39] <arrrghhh> spiky, i know, i have the same problem.
[19:39] <xibalba> yeah it's an old box
[19:39] <xibalba> got thrown into it, helping a friend remotely via ssh
[19:39] <xibalba> he's a windows guy and got thrown into a linux situation
[19:39] <Jordan_U> xibalba: Is /dev/sdg0 an actual physical device?
[19:39] <arrrghhh> ack!  we supported an unsupported distro!
[19:39] <xibalba> Jordan_U : /dev/sg* are the physical devices
[19:39] <WinstonSmith> hehehe
[19:39] <xibalba>  - /dev/sg0-3
[19:40] <Jordan_U> xibalba: Then I don't think you can tell for sure within the guest, you'd have to look at how vmware is mapping them and I'm not familiar with that.
[19:41] <wizzle> how to cut/delete some timeline in audacity (audio editor)?
[19:41] <Jordan_U> xibalba: You could I guess run "sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdg0" and confirm that it matches /dev/sda in the guest (and that it doesn't match anything else).
[19:42] <trism> wizzle: just select the region with your mouse and press delete
[19:43] <wizzle> ok trism
[19:43] <trism> wizzle: or ctrl+x for cut
[19:43] <eagleseye> any good video converter????
[19:43] <nogo> mencoder?
[19:43] <arrrghhh> eagleseye, avidemux is alright..
[19:43] <xibalba> Jordan_U : i'm in the phtysical host operating system
[19:43] <xibalba> not a vmware guest
[19:43] <Simple_Girl> Hello, I am having a slight problem with my netbook. I set it to hibernate, and since then it does not wake up. :$
[19:44] <dri245> maybe he's tired...
[19:44] <arrrghhh> Simple_Girl, hibernate is like shutting the computer off... hit the power button to turn it on.
[19:44] <Simple_Girl> I did, but it does not come back
[19:44] <wizzle> trism, do yoou have other method? i have do that. but nothing happens.
[19:44] <eagleseye> arrrghhh:thanks dude
[19:44] <Jordan_U> xibalba: And you can't run "sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda" in the guest?
[19:44] <Simple_Girl> I removed the battery and reattached in 15 minutes and nothing happened
[19:45] <Simple_Girl> I did all the tricks, it does not want to come back
[19:45] <trism> wizzle: it seems the default is ctrl+k, I may have messed with my shortcuts to make delete work
[19:45] <Simple_Girl> the fan blows though when I switch it on
[19:45] <xibalba> Jordan_U : i'm not in a guest OS,
[19:45] <Jordan_U> xibalba: If not, then you'll have to check your VMware settings. Try ##vmware for that.
[19:45] <xibalba> Jordan_U : just working on a server with Vmware server
[19:45] <xibalba> this doesn't have anything to do with vmware
[19:45] <arrrghhh> Simple_Girl, so you switch it on, fan blows, nothing on the screen?  is it a laptop?
[19:45] <xibalba> i just mentioned it was running vmware-server
[19:45] <wizzle> trism, it's ok. i'll trying.
[19:45] <Sonja> is the battery dead?
[19:45] <xibalba> i was just trying to find a way to correspond the disk device with the raw scsi device
[19:45] <Simple_Girl> arrrghhh, yes, netbook
[19:46] <xibalba> because i know device /dev/sg0 is the first scsi disk
[19:46] <trism> wizzle: all those functions are in the edit menu if the shortcuts aren't working
[19:46] <xibalba> but does /dev/sda match up to /dev/sg0
[19:46] <xibalba> that seems to be the questino of the day
[19:46] <arrrghhh> Simple_Girl, ok... does the backlight on the screen turn on, or is the screen just dark?
[19:46] <xibalba> and it is apparently very confusing
[19:46] <Simple_Girl> sonja, the battery is full.. and it is actually charging now
[19:46] <Simple_Girl> arrrghhh, the screen is just dark
[19:47] <Jordan_U> xibalba: Sorry, I don't know then.
[19:48] <Simple_Girl> arrrghhh, it's an Acer Aspire One 8.9" Netbook, with Linupus based, but I changed it to Ubuntu 10.04 a couple of months ago..
[19:48] <arrrghhh> Simple_Girl, any external screens you can try?  are there any indicator lights on the laptop?
[19:48] <eriksson25> Still same Could not calculate the upgrade
[19:48] <eriksson25> An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade:
[19:48] <eriksson25> Can not mark 'ubuntu-desktop' for upgrade
[19:48] <Simple_Girl> arrrghhh, when I switch it on, the indicators blink for a second and then no lights are on, except the power button - Green
[19:49] <eriksson25> Anyone have any idee about that error
[19:49] <wizzle> trism, thanks for helping.
[19:49] <Simple_Girl> arrrghhh, The fan blows in a weird frequency, slow for 2-3 seconds, and then fast for another 2-3 seconds, repeatedly..  the HDD is not on, it does not show that any processes are going on,
[19:50] <arrrghhh> eriksson25, you say it's your server... but it's running ubuntu-desktop...?
[19:51] <BigC> which would be more useful for downloading and testing the latest ubuntu iso's. Using Zsync or Jigdo?
[19:51] <xibalba> n/p/part
[19:51] <eriksson25> Well, its a old setup. dont use the desktop. But havent reinstalld it since I first started with ubuntu and then I pced desktop as a beginier
[19:52] <mamed> "dev/disk/by-uuid/332003e4-6488-4a38-ba11-da2ce713d2d4 dosent exist." dose anyone know what i can do?
[19:52] <eriksson25> But its runing nice, but wanted to hock up a disk that was ext4 and thats not posible since its 8.10
[19:53] <king> xubuntu problem??
[19:54] <Guest65205> xubuntu boot up problem
[19:54] <n0a1ias> how can i change the computer name
[19:54] <LibertyZero> n0a1ias: /etc/hostname
[19:54] <eriksson25> But it seems that this error is evident in latest releses aswell.
[19:54] <Guest65205> automute problem
[19:55] <Guest65205> any help??
[19:55] <twoten> Hi, I had to hotplug my cdrom drive, and it won't mount - error msg is Special device /dev/scd0 does not exist
[19:55] <arrrghhh> eriksson25, why didn't you upgrade it ever...?
[19:55] <twoten> what do I do?
[19:55] <Guest65205> When i start xubuntu the audio auto mute
[19:55] <Guest65205> help please
[19:56] <n0a1ias> how do i use /etc/?
[19:56] <eriksson25> Well, was afraid. Since it was runing without problems and had like 1year uptime. But I figuer now that it was stupid.
[19:56] <eriksson25> Shuldent play withsomething that is working.
[19:56] <eriksson25> To mutch windows in me still I guess
[19:57] <twoten> how can I mount my hot plugged cdrom drive without rebooting?
[19:57] <Guest65205> can someone help
[19:57] <Guest65205> me
[19:57] <Guest65205> please
[19:57] <n0a1ias> LibertyZero, how do i use /etc/
[19:58] <Jordan_U> twoten: Is it hot pluggable? Most CDROM drives aren't.
[19:58] <twoten> the power connector was off, I plugged it back in, the IDE cable was always on
[19:58] <LibertyZero> n0a1ias: /etc/hostname is a file, which contains the name of the computer. simply edit it with your text editor of choice
[19:59] <Oer> twoten if the bios did not recognized it at boot, no chance
[19:59] <n0a1ias> LibertyZero, thanks
[19:59] <qwe__> hi. I'm using the latest ubuntu remix on my 7 inch EEE. Is there any way to increase the resolution (even with to virtual one)?
[19:59] <nakhlawi> Guest65205: what is the problem?
[19:59] <twoten> bummer, I'll have to redo my DVD image - ahhh!
[19:59] <qwe__> (my current max. res. is 800x480)
[19:59] <GaToR__> Hi, I was wondering if someone could help me with something...
[20:00] <seidos> !ask | GaToR__
[20:00] <Jordan_U> twoten: If it's not hot pluggable you shouldn't try to hot plug it. Just reboot and hope there's no hardware damage.
[20:00] <IdleOne> Jordan_U: may I message you ?
[20:01] <Jordan_U> IdleOne: Yes.
[20:01] <twoten> it'll be okay, the door moves in and out, I'm sure it's fine
[20:02] <eriksson25> seems that uninstalling genome.desktop did the thing.
[20:02] <Oer> twoten no, that is just the cp player modus, the ide is not recognized so all it can do is play music now.
[20:02] <GaToR__> Alright then, sorry. I recently got a Dell Studio 15 laptop with Windows 7, and I today installed Ubuntu 10.04.1. The installation went fine, and it booted fine as well. I dualbooted Ubuntu with Windows 7. I booted Windows 7, and later shut down. I restarted the computer and the GRUB bootloaded didn't appear, and all I got was _ as if it was waiting for a CD to load(but none was in). And no, it's not trying to find a CD, it's just doing the
[20:04] <ximal> My hd tv screen is working now but the screen is not proper . The top panel and bottom panel are off screen and I can't resize it because it's hdmi output on the tv menu won't allow it .. How do I fix the over hang ?
[20:04] <ximal> cause if I can't fix this .. I'm going back to winblows
[20:04] <Jordan_U> GaToR__: Your message was cut off at "it's just doing the".
[20:04] <GaToR__> Sorry, it's just doing the blinking as if it's searching to boot from a CD.
[20:05] <nakhlawi> /part #ubuntu
[20:05] <GaToR__> The _ blinking thing :3
[20:06] <samba_> hello ubuntu folks I've a problem with the config of my sound card. Sound dont works, but using the live cd of maverik it works! what can I try ?
[20:06] <Jordan_U> GaToR__: Try holding shift at boot, if you see "GRUB" before the blinking cursor then you're probably running into http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/ucgi/~cjwatson/blosxom/2010/08/28#2010-08-28-windows-applications-making-grub2-unbootable
[20:06] <wizzle> how to save the project from audacity into mp3 mode
[20:07] <GaToR__> Alright, I'll try.
[20:07] <IdleOne> !sound > samba_
[20:07] <GaToR__> Thanks
[20:07] <IdleOne> samba_: also if you are running maverick please join #ubuntu+1 for support/discussion
[20:08] <ximal>  quick question guys .. Does canonical have a telephone support line .. i know it would charge by issue or severity .. but i'm trying to fix something and no replies on the forum no matter how I put it and no serious help in this channel .. Just the normal text book support quotes ...  and I'm sick of those ... I am willing to pay for the support I get as long as at the end my fookn computer is running right
[20:08] <adi11> hi all. is there any lighter browser than FF in ubuntu? i have 460Mb ram on this old desktop. i know epiphany webkit but it does not have minimal required (gmail noscript downthemall). so is there any less ram hungry version of FF or any other browser i can try under 10.04?
[20:08] <adi11> thanks
[20:08] <IdleOne> ximal: www.canonical.com has that #
[20:08] <Jordan_U> GaToR__: You're welcome, if you do decide to get the information he asks for using dd make sure that you copy down the command carefully. dd can be dangerous if you make a mistake.
[20:08] <samba_> no,  IdleOne I play jaunty but has a bad configuration
[20:08] <erUSUL> !support > ximal
[20:08] <Semitones> ximal, http://www.ubuntu.com/support/services
[20:09] <ximal> thanks IdleOne
[20:09] <samba_> IdleOne,  anyway I've tryed every single howto , so I try to ask if someone could help me
[20:09] <`IcE-MaN> facing some troubles getting connected to wifi on laptop. using latest distro. under the top menu bar wireless link, it says "device not ready". any tips?
[20:09] <GaToR__> Jordan_U: I take it there is no way I could just not use Ubuntu on this PC and just use Windows? Or since I already did this, I'm forced to do this?
[20:10] <Jordan_U> GaToR__: You can put a microsoft style mbr back from an Ubuntu liveCD if you want. That will allow you to boot windows without issues but you'll no longer be able to boot into Ubuntu.
[20:11] <Jordan_U> GaToR__: Would you like me to walk you through doing that?
[20:11] <GaToR__> Yes, that would be great.
[20:11] <GaToR__> Thanks :D
[20:11] <Jordan_U> GaToR__: Are you booted into a liveCD on that machine right now?
[20:11] <GaToR__> I am, yes.
[20:12] <dlp> Hi.. does anyone know how to control the options that FUSE gives to encfs when trying to mount an encrypted filesystem?
[20:12] <Jordan_U> GaToR__: Ok, run "sudo apt-get install mbr" then "sudo install-mbr /dev/sda".
[20:12] <dlp> As it seems that encfs is complaining that allow_root and allow_other are mutually exclusive.
[20:13] <dlp> I need to drop one of the options.
[20:13] <dlp> So I can mount manually, but FUSE won't. :-(
[20:13] <GaToR__> Alright, done.
[20:14] <GaToR__> Jordan_U: Is that, all, or more? Nothing is ever that easy :P
[20:15] <Jordan_U> GaToR__: That should do it :)
[20:15] <nogo> to hack somebody?
[20:16] <GaToR__> Jordan_U: Alright, I'll let you know what happens. :D
[20:16] <nogo> lol
[20:16] <mamed> if iam in the failsafe mode and it says i should choose what i want as a root and is giving me alternative dev/sda1,2,5,6,7 and non what should i use?
[20:16] <adi11> hi guys. i need a less ram hungry browser than FF
[20:16] <adi11> any sugestion ?
[20:16] <corpsicle> if you somehow bork your password for gnome-keyring, how can you solve it ?
[20:16] <tihamer> chromium?
[20:16] <nogo> midori?
[20:17] <tihamer> that's too lightweight
[20:17] <adi11> does it have gmail addons
[20:17] <adi11> ?
[20:17] <tihamer> chromium and google chrome has only extensions
[20:17] <adi11> is opera lighter than FF in 10.04
[20:18] <adi11> or google chrome vs FF?
[20:18] <vipinb> Hi all
[20:18] <adi11> who il less ram hungry?
[20:18] <vipinb>  when i compile totem source i'm stuck with this error. can anyone help me "checking for GST... configure: error: Package requirements (gstreamer-0.10 >= 0.10.26 gstreamer-base-0.10 >= 0.10.26 gstreamer-plugins-base-0.10 >= 0.10.26 gstreamer-tag-0.10 >= 0.10.26 gconf-2.0)"
[20:19] <xangua> vipinb: why do you need to compile totem¿
[20:19] <WinstonSmith> vipinb, make sure you have all those packages installed
[20:20] <vipinb> xangua : I have done some modification in the source. So need to compile...
[20:21] <vipinb> I'm not able to find these package in repository. Can you help me
[20:22] <xangua> vipinb: i suppose you will also need to compile the latest version of gstreamer
[20:22] <WinstonSmith> vipinb, where did you get the source for totem? from the repos?
[20:22] <Kyoaku_Tatsu> uhm hi i looked up on the internet that i can get help with ubuntu here, i  cant seem to log onto any websites or save anything for that matter.
 yes you can get it in ubuntu packages
[20:23] <vipinb> xangua: Can you help me what command or what I need to download for this
[20:23] <perlsyntax> i got a sound baster soubd card how do i get it off of mute?
[20:23] <il_capitano> ciao
[20:23] <perlsyntax> ?
[20:24] <derpl> can I prevent sound from stopping when I switch user?
[20:24] <perlsyntax> is there a program that will unmute my sound card?
[20:24] <WinstonSmith> vipinb, no i mean if you have the source from the repos all necessary dependencies should be there too but if you use source from their website for example it may have other dependencies like xangua said eg a new version of gstreamer
[20:24] <Kyoaku_Tatsu> when i try to log onto a website my laptop tells me this An error occurred during a connection to www.deviantart.com.
[20:24] <Kyoaku_Tatsu> Can't connect securely because the SSL protocol has been disabled.
[20:24] <Kyoaku_Tatsu> (Error code: ssl_error_ssl_disabled)
[20:24] <il_capitano> ho problemi con una memoria sd
[20:24] <FloodBot3> Kyoaku_Tatsu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:24] <Kyoaku_Tatsu> sorry
[20:24] <il_capitano> c'è qualcuno che può aiutarmi?
[20:24] <il_capitano> grazie
[20:24] <WinstonSmith> !it ! il_capitano
[20:25] <xangua> !it > il_capitano
[20:25] <Ichat> perlsyntax:  -  gnome mixer applet
[20:25] <perlsyntax> thanks
[20:25] <vipinb> I have downloaded source from http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/totem
[20:26] <Thqrmt> how do I use winscp to xfer from Virtual PC to the real laptop?
[20:26] <Thqrmt> I used ifconfig to get the ipaddress but what's username/pw?
[20:26] <traskmind> I ran PowerTOP to check my power usage and hopefully decrease it, and it suggested I enable USB autosuspend. I'm finding it's a bigger pain than the decreased power usage, but how do I disable it? Running ubuntu 10.04.
[20:26] <vipinb> winstonSmith:I have downloaded source from http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/totem
[20:27] <WinstonSmith> vipinb, then try to install the sources to the packages mentioned in the error msg eg the -dev packages
[20:27] <harry4> So is there a way to get a desktop environment running in Server 10.04?
[20:27] <GaToR__> Jordan_U: Hi, Well, after this GRUB still loaded, and I selected Windows just to see what would happen, and I got a new error. I got Info: Boot selection not available
[20:27] <GaToR__> :s
[20:27] <perlsyntax> i still hear no sound
[20:27] <IdleOne> harry4: install ubuntu-desktop
[20:27] <xirtaminU> alle opfer haben gelitten
[20:28] <IdleOne> !german
[20:28] <dlp> No worries, fixed!
[20:28] <harry4> IdleOne how do I start it?
[20:29] <dlp> Needed to change /etc/security/pam_encfs.conf in actual fact.
[20:29] <IdleOne> harry4: when you reboot the server it will load a GUI, login and you will have the default Ubuntu desktop
[20:29] <xirtaminU> alle opfer haben gelitten
[20:29] <derpl> I'm running a virtualbox vm, but sound stops when I switch from the user running virtualbox, how do I prevent that?
[20:29] <WinstonSmith> vipinb, and if it says you need gstreamer-0.10 >= 0.10.26 you dont look for gstreamer-0.10 . you install just the newest gstreamer you can find
[20:29] <IdleOne> harry4: actually you might be able to just do startx
[20:30] <LibertyZero> vipinb: normally you download the source with "apt-get source totem" and get all build dependencies with "apt-get build-dep totem"
[20:30] <rockhopper> hi, can i install gparted and resize a partition, which i've mounted for /home?
[20:30] <IdleOne> xirtaminU: /join #ubuntu-de
[20:30] <xirtaminU> alle opfers haben gelitten
[20:31] <WinstonSmith> rockhopper, not if its mounted . download partedmagic end do it from there
[20:31] <ximal> does anyone here know about the xrandr command ?
[20:31] <traskmind> How do I edit my grub menu in 10.04?
[20:31] <vipinb> LibertyZero : Let me try that also. If I do like that can i modify the source code
[20:31] <harry4> IdleOne really, I don't *need* server, but I want to boot to CLI every time and only start gdm when I want... Can I configure the Desktop version to not start X/gdm on bootup?
[20:31] <traskmind> (Permanently, and for a single boot)
[20:32] <ximal> harry4 yes
[20:32] <IdleOne> !nox | harry4
[20:32] <arrrghhh> traskmind, as I recall, it's not a good idea to directly edit grub.  what do you need to do?
[20:32] <rockhopper> WinstonSmith, is it available in ubuntu repository?
[20:32] <traskmind> arrrghhh, take usbcore.autosuspend off. And I'd like to edit it on boot next time to profile my boot.
[20:32] <IdleOne> rockhopper: gprated is
[20:32] <IdleOne> gparted*
[20:33] <arrrghhh> traskmind, ok, so you edit /etc/default/grub
[20:33] <WinstonSmith> rockhopper, http://partedmagic.com/download.html it is a live cd where you boot from and then resize your partitions. be sure to backup all your sensitive data first!
[20:33] <ximal> IdleOne: please tell me you have a few moments sir ? I'm trying to adjust the axis of 708mm x 398mm to a lower setting so my screen isn't larger than my tv actual viewing screen
[20:33] <arrrghhh> traskmind, you may want to check out this page - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[20:34] <traskmind> arrrghhh, no, I need to edit the menu. The kernel line specifically. I used to know where it is in Grub1 but Grub2 has completely different configuration options..
[20:34] <Thqrmt> how do I get files from my virtual machine onto the normal ubuntu file system?
[20:34] <arrrghhh> traskmind, i told you where to edit the menu.  read that doc, there's a grub.cfg file but it s NOT to be edited.
[20:34] <edju> Where does Songbird file its playlists?  I need to import them into Amarok14.
[20:35] <perlsyntax> odd i still hear no sound.
[20:35] <Ichat> IdleOne:  -  i would say that gparted from anything other than  partedmagic should be depreciated
[20:35] <arrrghhh> traskmind, you may want to skip to the 'configuring grub 2' section.
[20:35] <ximal> does anyone know how to change the axis for hd tv's ?
[20:35] <WinstonSmith> traskmind, /etc/default/grub
[20:35] <jk_> traskmind, hit left shift to get the menu on screen, then arrow to the selection you want to edit and press "e" to go into edit mode. When ready to boot, press ctrl-x.
[20:35] <harry4> Hmm, so I can have a grub option for vanila ubuntu and one for CLI - awesome :-D
[20:36] <WinstonSmith> traskmind, look for GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT
[20:36] <WinstonSmith> traskmind, be sure to run update-grub after that
[20:37] <arrrghhh> WinstonSmith, is there any difference between that and the update-grub2 command...?
[20:37] <jk_> traskmind, what I sent you was for a one-time edit.
[20:37] <traskmind> jk_, thank you that's what I was looking for because I've noticed "e" doesn't work anymore. How do I do a permanent edit?
[20:37] <rkvirani> Hi All I have a problem apt is broken
[20:37] <rkvirani> error message is:
[20:38] <arrrghhh> traskmind, you edit grub in /etc/default/grub as we've been asying.
[20:38] <arrrghhh> saying
[20:38] <WinstonSmith> arrrghhh, not sure i just used update-grub all the time
[20:38] <arrrghhh> !enter | rkvirani
[20:38] <rkvirani> Reading package lists... Error!
[20:38] <rkvirani> E: Malformed Status line, no 3rd word
[20:38] <rkvirani> E: Error occurred while processing libntfs10 (UsePackage2)
[20:38] <rkvirani> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/dpkg/status
[20:38] <rkvirani> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[20:38] <FloodBot3> rkvirani: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:38] <jk_> traskmind, modify /etc/default/grub as WinstonSmith  told you
[20:38] <rkvirani> ok let me go put it on pastebin.
[20:38] <WinstonSmith> traskmind, look for GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT
[20:38] <traskmind> arrrghhh, WinstonSmith, jk_, okay, I see it now, everything looks different from what I remember >_<
[20:38] <arrrghhh> WinstonSmith, it always freaked me out there were two, and i've always used the 2 version of the update-grub command..
[20:38] <rkvirani> http://pastebin.ca/1927908
[20:38] <arrrghhh> traskmind, yes... it's very different from what is now called grub 'legacy'
[20:39] <ximal> im outta here.. yall hae fun.. peace
[20:39] <WinstonSmith> arrrghhh, i have to say that editing grub used to be waaaaay easier ;(
[20:39] <rkvirani> The problem I have having with apt is here: http://pastebin.ca/1927908
[20:39] <WinstonSmith> with grub 1
[20:39] <arrrghhh> WinstonSmith, yes... yes it did.
[20:39] <discozohan> can anyone say, is it hard to create lvm after ubuntu install ? So i have 4 drives, after install i want to make them in raid 10 + lvm. Will it be difficult ?
[20:39] <rkvirani> WinstonSmith: it got even more convoluted?
[20:39] <rkvirani> damn
[20:39] <arrrghhh> WinstonSmith, but, with grub2 i haven't really had to edit it.
[20:40] <sign_> ?
[20:40] <rkvirani> Any ideas on the apt- thing
[20:40] <rkvirani> the error message doesnt tell me alot
[20:40] <WinstonSmith> arrrghhh, now its kind of .... well confusing.... before it was a matter of editing menu.lst and you are done
[20:40] <rkvirani> should I delete /var/lib/dpkg/status?
[20:40] <arrrghhh> rkvirani, what are you running?  what command?  could you paste your sources.list?
[20:40] <crunchbang> how to fix the ubicode letters in conky??
[20:40] <jk_> arrrghhh, I've edited the 40_custom file in /etc/grub.d to get my color back into the menu. Not difficult, just VERY different from grub legacy.
[20:40] <arrrghhh> WinstonSmith, oh i know.  it is odd, but like i said i haven't had to edit anything since grub2.  i just remove old stuff from /boot when i test that the new stuff is good, then update-grub2 and i'm done.
[20:41] <crunchbang> jk_: new style eases automatic configurationn
[20:41] <arrrghhh> jk_, yes... very different indeed.  but now you can have pretty backgrounds on grub lol
[20:41] <harry4> one more thing - if I append 'text' (and 'nosplash') to the kernel in the grub menu, firstly, will it be permanent or is it each time I boot, and secondly, if I boot to text, can I start gdm manually? or is it like rescue mode?
[20:41] <b_> eeeeeeeeee
[20:41] <WinstonSmith> arrrghhh, yes me too i really dont understand why it got MORE complicated???
[20:42] <crunchbang> how to fix the ubicode letters in conky??
[20:42] <nogo> what's conky?
[20:42] <arrrghhh> WinstonSmith, it seems everything has.  the new systemV scripts for startup or whatever seem way more confusing than /etc/init.d... but ubuntu always did funky things with startup scripts.
[20:42] <harry4> text overlay on desktop for system monitoring
[20:42] <harry4> text overlay on desktop for system monitoring nogo
[20:42] <arrrghhh> nogo, goolge is your friend.  it's for system monitoring.
[20:42] <jk_> harry4, if you append them in /etc/default/grub it will be permanent. If you do it using "e" at the grub menu it will be one time only.
[20:42] <arrrghhh> lol google mayhaps.
[20:43] <WinstonSmith> arrrghhh, well all systems have this tendency to get more and more complicated :(
[20:43] <nogo> i happened to know it but i just go away because i know it's a chinese project
[20:43] <harry4> jk_ thanks - what's the file called?  (I know it was just discussed, but I wasn't paying attention to that.... :-/ oops)
[20:43] <ax> so i enabled the restricted video drivers and now my display doesn't work on boot
[20:43] <arrrghhh> WinstonSmith, more code... more complication.  in the end they're trying to make things easier to administer, we just have to learn the new ways.  some decisions like putting landscape on a server make no damned sense, but that's off-topic.
[20:43] <ax> even in 'recovery mode'
[20:43] <WinstonSmith> harry4, and yes you can start gdm manually
[20:43] <mamed> i have now been trying to install ubuntu i 11h 40m without success, thouht it would be easyier than windows
[20:43] <mamed> :/
[20:43] <rkvirani> arrrghhh: http://pastebin.ca/1927909
[20:44] <b_> thepckid
[20:44] <arrrghhh> rkvirani, you never mentioned what command you're running that causes the first error...
[20:44] <arrrghhh> sources.list is fine.
[20:45] <crunchbang> so i cannot believe noone use it and hasn't utf locale what can be reason?
[20:45] <harry4> WinstonSmith thanks - sounds like a plan :-) (now if only I could get my laptop's wifi to auto connect on wakeup/open)
[20:45] <arrrghhh> crunchbang, you may have better luck in #ubuntu-server...
[20:45] <ax> i'm guessing i could boot with an ubuntu install cd and edid the config on my harddrive.. any idea where the setting is stored to use the proprietary graphics driver?
[20:45] <jk_> harry4, the file to make it permanent is /etc/default/grub and you need root permission to edit it. after saving your changes run "sudo update-grub" to make them take effect.
[20:45] <WinstonSmith> harry4, np your welcome :) does your wifi connect?
[20:46] <b_> hi
[20:46] <harry4> WinstonSmith, it connects, but only manually (my ssid is not broadcast and I have WPA2)
[20:47] <rkvirani> arrrghhh: apt-get update
[20:47] <harry4> jk_ the file itslef is 'grub'
[20:47] <harry4> jk_ in that dir?  easy - thanks again!
[20:47] <jk_> harry4, yep, that's it and it really is that easy. you're quite welcome.
[20:48] <arrrghhh> rkvirani, looks like a permissons thing.... does it persist after reboot?
[20:48] <WinstonSmith> harry4, 1st not broadcasting does not give you more security. 2nd if you click on the wifi symbol>wireless is your network there? if you edit it does it have the connect automatically ticked?
[20:48] <Thqrmt> can someone help me with file sharing on a network?
[20:49] <WinstonSmith> !ask | Thqrmt
[20:49] <rkvirani> fixed it
[20:49] <rkvirani> arrrghhh: I deleted the package libntfs10
[20:49] <Thqrmt> I know, I did and it was ignored 2x but I will now
[20:49] <ax> shouldn't 'recovery mode' not enable the restricted drivers, or even try to start gdm?
[20:49] <crunchbang> Thqrmt: just askk
[20:49] <Thqrmt> I'm trying to xfer files from virtual windows to the ubuntu section of my drive
[20:49] <Thqrmt> just not sure how
[20:49] <Thqrmt> I have winscp on the virtual machine
[20:50] <crunchbang> Thqrmt: ftp
[20:50] <rkvirani> arrrghhh: gah it will update but I cant install anything
[20:50] <WinstonSmith> Thqrmt, install the guest additions in the VM then you can use shared folders
[20:50] <Thqrmt> yeah I have the guest additions installed
[20:50] <Thqrmt> how do I access that from ubuntu? I get errors
[20:50] <arrrghhh> rkvirani, now why would you go and do a thing like that?  haha!  i think apt-get install -f command or something that repairs...
[20:50] <Thqrmt> cannot retrieve list form server/couldn't mount whatever
[20:50] <WinstonSmith> Thqrmt, ok then click on the folder symbol at the bottom of the VM window and configure a shared folder
[20:51] <crunchbang> Thqrmt: you share folder onn  linux host
[20:51] <crunchbang> Thqrmt: and access fero m win guest
[20:51] <jk_> Thqrmt, Set up a shared folder between the VM and the host, then in the VM open a network connection to that shared folder. You can then open the host folder in Windows, and drag-and-drop files across the barrier.
[20:51] <WinstonSmith> Thqrmt, they appear in windows networking > virtualbod shared folders
[20:51] <arrrghhh> lol
[20:51] <rkvirani> arrrghhh: there was corruption in the status file
[20:51] <harry4> WinstonSmith I was getting pinged every 30-90 secs (by a neighbor, I'm guessing) and when I turned off bssid it stopped (then I put a 14 char alphanumeric with symbols just to be sure lol) And yes, it shows up, I don't have to re-enter pw or anything, it remembers the network, and it's on autoconnect, but it doesn't.  (Crunchbang has no problem with it, but that's not 10.04... Koala worked fine btw)
[20:51] <rkvirani> a bunch of @ signs
[20:51] <arrrghhh> gang troubleshooting.
[20:51] <KittyBoots> Hello, I am trying to install either Lightening or Sunbird.  I can't get Lightening to work because it is not compatible with the version of Thunderbird I am using, I am not able to figure out how to change to a compatible version so I decided to install Sunbird.  I downloaded sunbird-1.0b1.tar.bz2 but I do not understand how to install it.
[20:52] <rkvirani> arrrghhh: just reinstalling ntfsprogs now to get the entry back
[20:52] <WinstonSmith> harry4,  if you use WPA2 with a strong (20 chars or so )
[20:52] <WinstonSmith> paswd you are quite safe
[20:52] <WinstonSmith> harry4, did you try enable broadcasting to see if it helps?
[20:53] <arrrghhh> rkvirani, you seem to have all sorts of weird issues... don't be mucking in things you don't understand!  i've broken the hell out of my system before because of newbie permission adjustments (it was several years ago :P)
[20:53] <harry4> I did not, but I will do that... (it's in my dropdown menu, though... and when I click it, it connects....)
[20:53] <Thqrmt> WinstonSmith when I try to add a shared folder it won't let me "OK" is greyed out. there already are 2 folders "Machine Folders and Transient Folders"
[20:53] <arrrghhh> harry4, i think you can configure an entry in /etc/network/interfaces for the wifi.  kinda tricky, but it should force it.
[20:53] <intok> anyone use avast! AV? I just installed it and tried updating the sigs, it crashed half way in and now when I try to open it, it says "an error occurred in avast! engine: invalid argument" then just exits out.
[20:54] <arrrghhh> intok, you're in an ubuntu chat room...
[20:54] <discozohan> what for "bootable flag" option in partition manager ? If i create partition for /boot, so only it should have this flag ?
[20:54] <harry4> arrrghhh that's probably what I need to do.... I've heard that other people have had this problem too, though (I've since moved to #! for now, but maybe 10.4.1 fixed this? idk
[20:54] <WinstonSmith> Thqrmt, did you click on the folder icon with the + sign?
[20:54] <jk_> Thqrmt, Double-click on Machine Folders and then select Others and browse.
[20:54] <maco> discozohan: if you have windows, your windows partition should have it.  linux doesnt care
[20:55]  * rkvirani is installing skype
[20:55] <rkvirani> Hey any good docs on installing git?
[20:55] <arrrghhh> rkvirani, isn't there a deb for that?
[20:55] <arrrghhh> git and skype
[20:55] <rkvirani> arrrghhh: .dev yeah but the apt is telling me there is a more updated version in my repos
[20:55] <ax> ahh, the 'nomodeset' option gets me a non blank screen, sweet
[20:55] <ax> in grub
[20:55] <arrrghhh> rkvirani, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Git
[20:55] <Thqrmt> jk_ double clicking doesn't do anything
[20:55] <rkvirani> there is probably a deb for it Im sure but I want to learn how to use the silly thing D
[20:56] <intok> arrrghhh yes, Avast! has a free linux version for you to be able to scan for viruses from linux
[20:56] <Thqrmt> WinstonSmith the only folder I see has no plus sign
[20:56] <discozohan> maco: oh, ok, but in official ubuntu tutorial about raid installation there is a row about making bootable flag on, hmm :/
[20:56] <harry4> Discozohan from my experience that is where you set the boot flag.  Recently I'm getting lazy and just using one / partition so that's where my boot flag is, but you can always change it if you screw up with something like partedmagic or trinity rescue linux
[20:56] <jk_> Thqrmt, try highlighting Machine Folders and hitting the + button to add.
[20:56] <arrrghhh> intok, the only antivirus software that runs in linux that i've heard is worth anything is clamav - and that's only for scanning for windows viruses like if the linux box is a file, mail or ftp server....
[20:57] <Thqrmt> jk_ machine folders cannot be highlighted
[20:57] <WinstonSmith> Thqrmt, you are sure you installed guest additions? and the icon i mean is on the right side if the shared folders window
[20:57] <intok> arrrghhh which is allot more effective then trying to scan from within windows or from some outdated boot cd
[20:57] <maco> discozohan: oh i dont know if its different for RAID, i just know that on a boring install, you can have none of them marked bootable, and GRUB will still do the right thing
[20:57] <Thqrmt> WinstonSmith fairly sure. It had me reboot but didn't appear to do anything after that. Should I reinstall?
[20:57] <arrrghhh> intok, really?  is that your professional opinion?
[20:57] <discozohan> maco: ok, thanks
[20:57] <maco> arrrghhh: intok is right. windows viruses can hide while windows is running. they cant hide while its off and linux is running
[20:57] <intok> arrrghhh well I've had lots of luck with avast in the past, I usually use both clam and avast, just to be through
[20:58] <harry4> Thanks for the help, jk_ WinstonSmith ximal IdleOne much appreciated!
[20:58] <WinstonSmith> Thqrmt, in your VM near the clock do you have an virtualbox icon?
[20:58] <harry4> Peace - Outside!!!
[20:58] <maco> arrrghhh: one of the ubuntu core-devs is maintaining clam-av in ubuntu to ensure that the latest sigs are quickly available in the repo
[20:58] <WinstonSmith> harry4, np
[20:58] <Thqrmt> yes WinstonSmith
[20:59] <arrrghhh> maco, true... but if you're running windows, nothing will replace something that actively watches like nod32.
[20:59] <arrrghhh> maco, i recommended clamav as well...
[20:59] <yowshi> i need a little help amarok wont run due to some undefined symbol in libGL.so.1
[21:00] <maco> arrrghhh: i dont think ive ever had anything that actively watched... symantec and mcafee just do a daily scan, dont they?
[21:00] <Pierrot_lefou> exit
[21:00] <perlsyntax> How do i get all the files for emacs23 so i can build from sourcecode?
[21:01] <perlsyntax> ?
[21:01] <arrrghhh> maco, really?  depends on the version/type, but most of the better ones have some sort of active hooks into the OS.  symantec corporate does, nod32 does, i haven't used any norton product since 2004 but they did back then... i've never used mcafee
[21:01] <jk_> Thqrmt, Machine Folders won't get the highlight bar but it will get a "focus box" around it. When you have that, click the topmost of the three buttons on the RH side of the dialog, and you should get another dialog to select and add the folder. Be sure to check it as permanent but not as read-only, if you want to write into it.
[21:01] <WinstonSmith> Thqrmt, look here : http://imagebin.org/111799
[21:01] <WinstonSmith> Thqrmt, you dont have that button?
[21:01] <stwobe> what is the best partition type fpr lubuntu. will ext2 be OK. I have just used Gparted to format drive.
[21:01] <perlsyntax> hello does anyone know how to download alll the files so i can download emacs23 from sourcecode.
[21:01] <WinstonSmith> jk_, you dont even need to focus just clicking add suffices
[21:01] <maco> arrrghhh: *shrug* ive never had an AV alert me "something is trying to get in" (for that i'd use an IDS like Snort) just "something is already in"
[21:01] <arrrghhh> stwobe, ext3 or 4.  i wouldn't use 2.
[21:02] <stwobe> ah
[21:02] <Thqrmt> WinstonSmith after pressing it I get a dialog to add a folder and select a path and all that. No matter what I do, the "OK" button is unclickable
[21:02] <perlsyntax> hello!
[21:02] <disappearedng__> Hey how do I uninstall my nividia sound card
[21:02] <maco> stwobe: 2 cant recover from a bad shutdown
[21:02] <yowshi> i need a little help amarok wont run due to some undefined symbol in libGL.so.1 anyone know how to fix this?
[21:02] <stwobe> shall icarry on with install. what would happen with ext2 arrrghhh?
[21:02] <maco> discozohan: unplug it?
[21:02] <stwobe> ok
[21:02] <WinstonSmith> Thqrmt, what folder are you choosing? inside your home folder?
[21:02] <arrrghhh> maco, it's more for like scanning a file before it's finished officially downloading, that type of thing.  like i said, there's proactive hooks in the system.
[21:02] <stwobe> thanks. this channel rocks
[21:02] <arrrghhh> stwobe, nothing bad necessairly, it's just an older, non-journaled FS.
[21:02] <klappi> stwobe: you can upgrade from ext2 to ext3 later
[21:03] <stwobe> ok
[21:03] <discozohan> maco: unplug what? -.-
[21:03] <Thqrmt> WinstonSmith yes
[21:03] <maco> discozohan: the card
[21:03] <WinstonSmith> Thqrmt, hmmm gimme a minute
[21:03] <maco> discozohan: to uninstall a PCI or USB card... you yank it out
[21:04] <magicianlord> maco: you're supposed to remove the drivers first, in windows
[21:04] <discozohan> maco: hmm, i think you wanted to write it to another person, not me ;)
[21:04] <arrrghhh> magicianlord, not really... and we're not talking about windows in here ;)
[21:05] <jca1981> Please help me with system recovery, tried to upgrade to lucid via ssh and my connection died, now it wont boot. i can get in via install cd and run dpkg --configure -a but if fails with "could not find image (/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-24-server"
[21:05] <magicianlord> arrrghhh: yes
[21:05] <WinstonSmith> Thqrmt, do you have any spaces in those folders or in the name you gave the shared folder?
[21:05] <disappearedng__> I have 2 modules of sound card, one intel and the other nvidia, and both of them are listed as snd_hda_intel under cat /proc/asound/module. How do I uninstall the nividia sound module ?
[21:05] <jamescarr> Ricky Thomas, 43, a SWAT team police officer from Chesapeake Beach, Md., brought his 10-year old son Chase to the Beck rally. "I wanted my son to see democracy in action," Thomas said.
[21:06] <arrrghhh> magicianlord, i've never removed a driver when i removed a piece of hardware... then i'd have to reinstall that driver when the hardware was reinstalled.  anyhoo, outside the scope of #ubuntu.
[21:06] <maco> discozohan: oops
[21:06] <Thqrmt> WInstonSmith no but I put it in \true\downloads and it worked.
[21:06] <maco> disappearedng__: you dont
[21:06] <arrrghhh> jamescarr, what does THAT have to do with #ubuntu?
[21:06] <maco> disappearedng__: its part of the kernel
[21:06] <IdleOne> !ot | jamescarr
[21:06] <maco> disappearedng__: if you dont want the card to be used at all, you could just remove it
[21:06] <Thqrmt> WinstonSmith however I cannot access the folder I created windows side
[21:06] <disappearedng_> how do I do that
[21:06] <maco> disappearedng_: if you dont want th ecard to be used at all, just remove it from the machine
[21:06] <disappearedng_> maco: my mic isn't working and I suspect the nvidia crap is affecting it
[21:07] <WinstonSmith> !blacklist ! disappearedng_
[21:07] <disappearedng_> why are you blacklisting me
[21:07] <WinstonSmith> !blacklist | disappearedng_
[21:07] <maco> disappearedng_: WinstonSmith is trying to tell you hwo to blacklist a module
[21:07] <disappearedng_> oh I thought you want to blacklist me from ubuntu sory
[21:07] <stwobe> I am trying to install Lubuntu. I keep getting same error "The attempt to mount a file system with ext4 in SCSI1(0,0), partition #1 (sda) at / failed". Help?
[21:07] <WinstonSmith> Thqrmt, explain better
[21:07] <WinstonSmith> disappearedng_chill dude :D
[21:07] <maco> disappearedng_: except if you blacklist snd_hda_intel both would stop working since theyre both azalea chips
[21:08] <disappearedng_> maco: yeah so how do I get around that
[21:08] <maco> disappearedng_: i'd just install pavucontrol and use it to control which sound card's mic is in use at a given time
[21:08] <WinstonSmith> maco ups yes thats right (me embarrased)
[21:08] <jk_> Thqrmt, In Windows, go to Add Network Places and look for VirtualBox Server in the networks list. Drill down there and you will find the host-side folder. I create a shortcut on the desktop for mine to make it easy to access.
[21:08] <stwobe> ok. thanks. will go back to gparted and do ext4
[21:09] <Thqrmt> WinstonSmith I got to the point where I'm putting the files into the shared folder. I access it from PLaces > Network on ubuntu ja?
[21:10] <jk_> Thqrmt, no, in Ubuntu it's just another directory in your home directory.
[21:10] <magicianlord> ubuntu is based on debian
[21:10] <disappearedng_> maco: under volume control I keep seeing HDMI and Internal Audio analog. Is HDMI something fancy nvidia added on top? If I am not getting my mic working should I disable everything and start from the basic?
[21:10] <jca1981> Please help me with system recovery, tried to upgrade to lucid via ssh and my connection died, now it wont boot. i can get in via install cd and run dpkg --configure -a but if fails with "could not find image (/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-24-server"
[21:10] <Thqrmt> got it thanks jk_ and WinstonSmith
[21:10] <WinstonSmith> Thqrmt, no you place the files in the folder in ubuntu and then you open an explorer in windows goto my network places > entire network > virtualbox shared folders
[21:11] <maco> disappearedng_: hdmi is high-def A/V for like if you want to play something on a high-def TV
[21:11] <disappearedng_> maco: I don't need that yet
[21:11] <disappearedng_> how do I disable it
[21:11] <WinstonSmith> jca1981, try #ubuntu-server for that
[21:11] <maco> disappearedng_: your graphics card has it built in
[21:11] <disappearedng_> oh ok
[21:11] <GaToR__> Jordan_U: Sorry to bother again. The two commands you gave me to let me boot into Windows, is there an equivalent that would allow me to boot linux?
[21:11] <disappearedng_> then if my mic is not working, it shouldn't have a role in that I guess
[21:12] <maco> disappearedng_: probably not, since hdmi is for output
[21:12] <disappearedng_> maco: so how would you go about testing for mic no input ?
[21:12] <disappearedng_> I have been googling for so long
[21:12] <disappearedng_> never really substantial
[21:12] <duffydack> Jordan_U, GaToR__ what win versions does that mbr support?  I know it dont support win7..
[21:13] <GaToR__> Ah
[21:13] <GaToR__> No wonder why it didn't work for me
[21:13] <GaToR__> :P
[21:13] <Jordan_U> duffydack: All windows versions, it's the PBR code that's version specific.
[21:13] <maco> disappearedng_: id double check with pavucontrol that the right device is set for input and then try to use the mic. if the little bars in pavucontrol that show how much input its getting arent moving and you have mic and micboost at 100%, file a bug on the linux package.
[21:13] <allenlulu369> hi to all
[21:13] <kenthree> hey guys, just upgraded 9.4 -> 10.4 but the router and other machines don't see it's hostname anymore- minor annoyance but any suggestion?
[21:13] <Jordan_U> GaToR__: Do you have more than one hard drive?
[21:13] <disappearedng_> ok will do thx
[21:13] <GaToR__> Jordan_U: It didn't work for me, as far as I know. But as asked before, is there a way for me to boot back into Windows with another terminal command?
[21:14] <MrBingo> He there, someone tell me plz bout my problem. When im talking on skype, peoples hearing all sounds on my pc(video\music), im using headphones. (UBUNTU 10.04).
[21:14] <astrojp> Is there a program available that can convert sheet music to tablature?
[21:14] <magicianlord> kenthree: can you change it
[21:15] <kenthree> by editing the 2 files? the old name is still there
[21:16] <duffydack> Jordan_U, PBR?  What do I need to make it work on win7?  It did not, just now.
[21:16] <airtonix> MrBingo, i think you need to explore the sound options in the notification tray
[21:16] <Jordan_U> duffydack: It didn't work for you, or are you just referring to GaToR__'s problem?
[21:16] <duffydack> Jordan_U, not for me.
[21:17] <Jordan_U> GaToR__: duffydack: Could you run boot info script as explained here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1291280 and pastebin the RESULTS.txt?
[21:17] <duffydack> Jordan_U, I just tried it on a win7/ubuntu.
[21:17] <Jordan_U> duffydack: What did happen?
[21:17] <duffydack> Jordan_U, got the windows screen saying a problem booting, and to details on how to fix it...
[21:18] <duffydack> Jordan_U, this was just a guest vm, I was curious about it.
[21:19] <Jordan_U> duffydack: Interesting.
[21:20] <GaToR__> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/Y11ZVd2G
[21:22] <n0a1ias> hey when i try to rename my computer it says i dont have write permissions, how do i get them?
[21:22] <Jordan_U> GaToR__: And when you boot you get a grub menu? That is verry odd (according to that output you don't have grub installed anywhere).
[21:23] <GaToR__> Jordan_U: I just redid the commands you gave me before I did the output
[21:23] <GaToR__> It could have worked this time
[21:23] <duffydack> n0a1ias,  sudo
[21:23] <Jordan_U> GaToR__: Try again and see what happens.
[21:23] <GaToR__> Jordan_U: Before I do, is there some way to boot into ubuntu?
[21:23] <kimb> hi
[21:23] <n0a1ias> duffydack, so i do it thrue terminal?
[21:24] <n0a1ias> whats the coad?
[21:24] <kimb> how to use aprsd
[21:24] <GaToR__> I don't mind going into a live cd whenever I need to boot, just is there a command to do so
[21:24] <spartan07> got a signal over range when I try to install ubutnu 10.04. Anyone had this issue?
[21:24] <H4kB0x> im updating to 10.04 LTS, should i install GRUB?
[21:25] <cached> does /tmp clear automatically every (unit of time)?
[21:25] <n0a1ias> H4kB0x, use grub if you want multiple os', and if so, install ubuntu last
[21:25] <n0a1ias> duffydack, so i do it thrue terminal? whats the imput?
[21:25] <H4kB0x> n0alias: thanks
[21:26] <H4kB0x> multiple OS from within or in general?
[21:26] <H4kB0x> i mean within as virtually
[21:26] <n0a1ias> H4kB0x, in general
[21:26] <H4kB0x> ok
[21:27] <Jordan_U> GaToR__: You would need to re-install grub, but whatever windows program clobbered grub before will likely do it again each time you boot windows.
[21:27] <GaToR__> Jordan_U: How would I reinstall grub? Live CD sudo apt-get install grub?
[21:27] <duffydack> n0a1ias,  sudo hostname yourhostname
[21:27] <n0a1ias> thanks
[21:27] <H4kB0x> it would not let me continue installing unless i selected "continue without installing GRUB"
[21:27] <duffydack> n0a1ias,   or gksu gedit /etc/hostname and change it
[21:28] <Jordan_U> !grub2 | GaToR__
[21:29] <failure> Have anyone experiance problem with reiserfs after upgrading to Maverick from Karmic ? i had to run a --rebuild-tree with reiserfsck...
[21:29] <n0a1ias> duffydack, it says unable to resolve host
[21:31] <Jordan_U> GaToR__: Tomorrow would you be willing to work with me to get the information required to work around whatever idiotic windows application is overwriting grub?
[21:31] <JoeX> can someone remind me how I have to proceed for account registration?
[21:31] <GaToR__> Jordan_U: Yeah, tomorow is great.
[21:32] <Paragon> i forgot who was helping me with my samba :(
[21:32] <WinstonSmith> !register | joex
[21:32] <n0a1ias> duffydack, it says unable to resolve host
[21:33] <astrojp> trying to install java on ubuntu, will this command do it? 'sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre sun-java6-plugin sun-java6-fonts'
[21:33] <amr> anyone got any recommendations for an irc client?
[21:33] <amr> using smuxi currently, it's a bit shit
[21:33] <WinstonSmith> !java | astroip
[21:33] <amr> xchat is awful too
[21:33] <Jordan_U> GaToR__: If you have an extra blank CD I would recommend burning Super GRUB2 Disk, that way you'll be able to boot both Windows and Ubuntu no matter what happens.
[21:33] <failure> amr: irssi
[21:33] <amr> failure: i use that too :p
[21:34] <kikela> amr: empathy for all
[21:34] <WinstonSmith> amr xchat-gnome?
[21:34] <amr> ill give empathy a go
[21:34] <amr> wasnt a fan of that, WinstonSmith
[21:34] <duffydack> n0a1ias, what are you doing
[21:34] <kimb> does anyone know how to use Aprsd? i found it in synaptic package manager / amateur radio
[21:34] <WinstonSmith> amr well they mentioned a couple of alternatives already
[21:34] <amr> oh, when i add an msn account to empathy (i assume thats what it is in the top right in the menu bar?) how do i pull up a contact list?
[21:34] <n0a1ias> trying to change my computer name duffydack
[21:34] <duffydack> amr,  forget xchat-gnome, use regular xchat
[21:34] <amr> WinstonSmith: indeed they did, i also mentioned i didnt like xchat
 amr: irssi
[21:35] <WinstonSmith> kikela> amr: empathy for all
[21:35] <duffydack> n0a1ias, what was the command you typed.
[21:35] <amr> WinstonSmith: did you miss my response?
[21:35] <n0a1ias> sudo homename n0a1ias-netbook
[21:35]  * WinstonSmith is ashamed for not looking
[21:35] <duffydack> n0a1ias, sudo hostname
[21:35] <failure> n0a1ias: edit /etc/hosts also and have a FQDN
[21:36] <n0a1ias> FQDN?
[21:36] <yowshi> i need a little help amarok wont run due to some undefined symbol in libGL.so.1 anyone know how to fix this?
[21:36] <failure> n0a1ias: and some applications might need to be restarted
[21:36] <amr> any ideas how id pull up a contact list when i put in my details to empathy?
[21:36] <failure> n0a1ias: edit /etc/hostname aswell
[21:36] <Centurion210> n0a1ias: Full Qualified Domain Name
[21:36] <WinstonSmith> n0a1ias, fully qualified domain name
[21:36] <failure> n0a1ias: like this, mogen.banan.se isa a FQDN
[21:37] <yowshi> i hate empathy wont use it
[21:37] <duffydack> n0a1ias, I guess you changed the name and are having trouble connecting to it now..or something.
[21:37] <n0a1ias> no tha name wont change
[21:38] <duffydack> n0a1ias,  sudo hostname n0alias-netbook should work.
[21:38] <duffydack> n0a1ias, just set it in /etc/hostname
[21:38] <Paragon> Can anyone help me figure out why my samba and ushare aren't active and are refusing connections?
[21:38] <n0a1ias> i'll try again
[21:38] <n0a1ias> oh wait
[21:38] <GaToR__1> Jordan_U: hmm, is there a link to this Super GRUB2 Disk?
[21:38] <n0a1ias> some apps need to be restarted?
[21:38] <Muelli> Paragon: I have no idea about samba, but I'd check /var/log/daemon.log or the like.
[21:38] <n0a1ias> does that include terminal?
[21:38] <n0a1ias> yep
[21:38] <n0a1ias> haha
[21:39] <failure> :P
[21:39] <Centurion210> lol
[21:39] <n0a1ias> i was waiting for the prompt to change
[21:39] <WinstonSmith> Paragon, did you do a : testparm?
[21:39] <lap_dragon> ok I have a problem
[21:39] <SqRt7744> a
[21:39] <n0a1ias> thanks
[21:39] <failure> n0a1ias: its sets while you start it in .bashrc
[21:39] <Centurion210> lap_dragon: me too.. i need 1 gazillion dollars
[21:39] <lap_dragon> when I select sound preferences, it says "Waiting for sound to respond"
[21:39] <intok> Anyone use avast! Linux? I just installed it and tried updating the sigs, it crashed half way in and now when I try to open it, it says "an error occurred in avast! engine: invalid argument" then just exits out.
[21:39] <Paragon> WinstonSmith, it's not saying anyhing bad other than one thing's name is too long
[21:39] <failure> n0a1ias: if you type 'hostname' you will see it
[21:40] <WinstonSmith> Paragon, what the output ot testparm?
[21:40] <WinstonSmith> of*
[21:40] <Paragon> what was the otion to output it to a text file?
[21:40] <corpsicle> i cant run network-manager-gnome without gnome-keyring ?
[21:40] <WinstonSmith> Paragon, testparm > somefile.txt
[21:40] <guntbert> !av | intok
[21:41] <Crankygeek> Hello room
[21:41] <n0a1ias> ok i got it now
[21:41] <n0a1ias> thanks
[21:41] <lap_dragon> ok I have a problem
[21:41] <lap_dragon> when I select sound preferences, it says "Waiting for sound to respond"
[21:41] <berefeira> hellos
[21:41] <ac> exit
[21:41] <lap_dragon> "Waiting for sound system to respond"
[21:41] <ac> quit
[21:41] <ac> quit
[21:41] <crucialhoax> I installed the faenza icons from deviant art and now my main menu icon wont load :/
[21:41] <Crankygeek> I have some questions on configuring VNC Server if anyone can help..?
[21:42] <guntbert> !ask | Crankygeek
[21:42] <lap_dragon> May I please get some help?
[21:42] <guntbert> !patience | lap_dragon
[21:43] <gabox> hi, i have mysql, and i don't want the service to start every time  i boot. The service doesn't appear in startup services, is the other place where i can disable it?
[21:43] <Paragon> WinstonSmith, http://pastebin.com/mYCCnjwL
[21:43] <stwobe> My installation of Lubuntu keeps failing at the 5% stage. It says "The attempt to mount a file system with type ext4 in SCSI1 (0,0,0), partition #1 (sda) at / failed". How do I fix it etc??
[21:43] <johzephine> I am a ubuntu newb, i have no idea how to install dwarf fortress.   i need dwarf fortress!
[21:44] <WinstonSmith> gabox, install boot up manager
[21:44] <Paragon> johzephine, you might have to compile it from the source
[21:44] <Crankygeek> I have installed VNC Server on Ubuntu 10 LTS, I am able to connect to it....the problem is I don't see the desktop, I am only getting a terminal window, How do I get it to remote control the desktop?
[21:44] <johzephine> Paragon,  I don't know what that means.
[21:44] <Paragon> oh alright
[21:44] <johzephine> haha
[21:44] <Paragon> uhm
[21:44] <Paragon> haha
[21:44] <gabox> ok
[21:44] <Paragon> extract the .tar.bz2 file
[21:44] <johzephine> yeah
[21:44] <Paragon> and navigate to the directory
[21:44] <abhinav> gabox: http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/114107 has the details
[21:44] <Paragon> and do ./configure && make install
[21:44] <Paragon> i think that's it
[21:45] <WinstonSmith> Paragon, why do you have the force user : nobody?
[21:45] <maco> Paragon: you missed one
[21:45] <stwobe> Cannot install Lubuntu 10.04. My installation of Lubuntu keeps failing at the 5% stage. It says "The attempt to mount a file system with type ext4 in SCSI1 (0,0,0), partition #1 (sda) at / failed". How do I fix it etc??
[21:45] <Paragon> WinstonSmith, i just want it to admit all thhings that are trying to connect to it locally so that i don't have to worry about it
[21:45] <maco> johzephine: *if* the source has a configure script, then "./configure && make && sudo make install"  but it could use something other than autotools, so if there isnt one, say so
[21:45] <gabox> thanks abhinav will read it now.
[21:45] <crucialhoax> I installed the faenza icons from deviant art and now my main menu icon wont load :/
[21:46] <ssn> hi guys
[21:46] <bloodweiserdk> chat
[21:46] <Crankygeek> I have installed VNC Server on Ubuntu 10 LTS, I am able to connect to it....the problem is I don't see the desktop, I am only getting a terminal window, How do I get it to remote control the desktop?
[21:46] <WinstonSmith> paragon then or enable guest or create a user and use that user. im not sure nobody has any rights to access anyhting
[21:46] <abhinav> gabox: basically you need to remove the S*mysql* link from runlevel 5 (/etc/rc5.d)
[21:46] <ssn> i dont know why, but my ubuntu installation does not boot without the usb stick i installed it from. WHY?????
[21:46] <WinstonSmith> Paragon, what error especially do you get while connecting
[21:47] <Paragon> the share doesn't even show up
[21:47] <gabox> bootupmager worked WinstonSmith, thanks
[21:47] <WinstonSmith> gabox, np
[21:47] <dr3af> when i try to run a game via wine i get this http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/NZEz6zNp
[21:47] <duffydack> ssn, you installed the boot loader onto the usb?
[21:47] <dr3af> can u help please?
[21:48] <WinstonSmith> Paragon, none of the shares?
[21:48] <Paragon> None of them.
[21:48] <Paragon> Ushare does the same thing.
[21:48] <Crankygeek>  I have installed VNC Server on Ubuntu 10 LTS, I am able to connect to it....the problem is I don't see the desktop, I am only getting a terminal window, How do I get it to remote control the desktop?
[21:49] <n0a1ias> is there a vnc software that i can download with apt-get?
[21:49] <kimb> does anyone know how to use Aprsd? i found it in synaptic package manager / amateur radio
[21:49] <jrib> !vnc | n0a1ias
[21:49] <Paragon> n0a1ias, yeah there is
[21:49] <ssn> i dont know why, but my ubuntu installation does not boot without the usb stick i installed it from. please help me...
[21:49] <jrib> kimb: does it not have documentation?
[21:49] <n0a1ias> ssn, are there any oter os'
[21:49] <ssn> no
[21:50] <Habstinat> Hi, I'm having some trouble installing Java on my 10.04 Ubuntu/Windows 7 dual boot with Wubi on my IBM Lenovo Thinkpad W700ds Laptop.
[21:50] <ssn> fresh ubuntu install from a unetbootin prepared ubuntu netinstall stick
[21:50] <jrib> !java > Habstinat
[21:50] <ssn> perhaps the bootloader ended up on the stick or something, this never happend to me
[21:50] <n0a1ias> ssn, try booting it up, then removing all grub files from the base file system
[21:50] <WinstonSmith> Paragon, try to add a browseable = yes
[21:50] <dr3af> when i try to run a game via wine i get this http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/NZEz6zNp
[21:50] <dr3af> any help?
[21:51] <ssn> n0a1ias: dont understand what you mean. without the stick, it does not boot. with stick, the system (installed on the harddisk) works well
[21:51] <madfox> dr3af for what?
[21:51] <dr3af> when i try to run a game via wine i get this http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/NZEz6zNp
[21:51] <WinstonSmith> Paragon, how did you configure the shares? by hand or with a tool?
[21:51] <ssn> what files on the installation should i delete?
[21:51] <Paragon> WinstonSmith, all by hand
[21:51] <n0a1ias> ssn, boot it up, with the stick, then remove all grub files in the hd
[21:51] <Paragon> the tutorial i read might be a little old
[21:51] <frameRelay> sup yall?
[21:52] <dr3af> anyone??? :(
[21:52] <frameRelay> is a high level of memory usage normal in modern releases of ubuntu server? 85-90% RAM use with 1GB RAM installed
[21:52] <WinstonSmith> Paragon, is that a server or do you have GUI?
[21:52] <WinstonSmith> frameRelay, yes
[21:52] <n0a1ias> what is the name of the vnc thats in the repositories?
[21:52] <ssn> this is so frustrating
[21:52] <Paragon> i'm terminal right now
[21:53] <WinstonSmith> Paragon, ok gimme a min
[21:53] <frameRelay> light activities, no heavy processing, no web page serving or database though, WinstonSmith?
[21:53] <WinstonSmith> frameRelay, linux will always use all available RAM
[21:53] <frameRelay> alright, thanks
[21:53] <johzephine> okay I don't know what "do" ./configure && make install means
[21:54] <abhinav> dr3af: wine may not support all windows apps. try the #winehq channel
[21:54] <ssn> n0a1ias: .
[21:54] <n0a1ias> ssn, yea it is, but you need to do it
[21:54] <dr3af> im actualy trying to play world of warcraft,same message,and world of warcraft plays 100% ok on my other pcs
[21:54] <ssn> what?
[21:55] <n0a1ias> try just moving all your datato another partition in the hd, then reinstalling the os
[21:55] <ssn> you did not really speak english.
[21:55] <maco> johzephine: in a terminal, go to the directory where you unpacked the source, and run "./configure && make && sudo make install"
[21:55] <n0a1ias> yea i did..
[21:55] <WinstonSmith> Paragon, try changing security = SHARE to security = user
[21:55] <maco> johzephine: Paragon missed the "make" step in there
[21:55] <abhinav> dr3af: is the wine version same on all pcs ?
[21:55] <ssn> where is "in the hd"
[21:55] <n0a1ias> abhinav, try #winehq
[21:55] <dr3af> yes.
[21:56] <dr3af> abhinav: yes.
[21:56] <veryhappy> hi got a problem ubuntu 10.04.1 Livecd hangs on boot because of speech-dispatcher
[21:56] <n0a1ias> hd means hard drive
[21:56] <maco> johzephine: leave off the quotes when you copy and paste it
[21:56] <veryhappy> what to do
[21:56] <veryhappy> thanks for any help
[21:56] <Paragon> WinstonSmith, now when i check services status samba4 is [?]
[21:57] <ssn> n0a1ias: exactly, so where "in the hard drive" might be the files you mean. should i delete /etc/default/grub, /boot/grub, /etc/grub.d, /usr/lib/grub, /usr/share/grub ?
[21:57] <johzephine> to go to a directory i would just type it in and hit enter right?  then it says bash: the directory?
[21:57] <SailorReality> weird how an operating system that claims to be better than windows (lol) has its official support channel flooded with 800+ people 24/7 asking simple questions that would be completely self apparent in windows
[21:57] <jrib> johzephine: no
[21:57] <SailorReality> maybe its broken?
[21:57] <WinstonSmith> paragon to see if theres anything wrong with the samba config file do the testparm again
[21:58] <dr3af> SailorReality: which one of those questions are simple questions?
[21:58] <guntbert> !ot | SailorReality
[21:58] <madfox> SailorReality: Thats because half the people coming here are coming from windows. Just because it's different doesnt mean it's hard
[21:58] <WinstonSmith> !attitude | SailorReality
[21:58] <johzephine> If I were new to windows I'd be lost too. :P
[21:58] <n0a1ias> ssn, actually try moving you home folder to another partion then reinstalling ubuntu. and dont click "yes, install grub"\
[21:58] <wizzle> can i specify downlaods place from its files?
[21:59] <ssn> n0a1ias: are you serious? ...
[21:59] <jrib> wizzle: what?
[21:59] <SailorReality> well why are there tons of ppl new to windows in #windows and its not nearly as flooded
[21:59] <Habstinat> jrib, apparently sun-java6-jre package, the one that the article you sent me told me I had to install, doesn't exist (and yes, I have added the universe repository) and the closest one to it, "Sun Java 6.0 Plugin", is not available on my 64-bit machine.
[21:59] <johzephine> jrib, what do I do to go to a directory then?
[21:59] <jrib> Habstinat: it's not in the universe repository, read more closely :)
[21:59] <n0a1ias> ssn. yes
[21:59] <hiexpo> hey is there a plugin to play wma files in audacity
[22:00] <Paragon> johzephine, cd
[22:00] <WinstonSmith> Habstinat, java and 64 have some problems AFAIK
[22:00] <johzephine> cd?
[22:00] <madfox> SailorReality > /dev/null
[22:00] <Paragon> you type cd and then /directory/
[22:00] <WinstonSmith> madfox, lol
[22:00] <Paragon> you have to be in terminal
[22:00] <johzephine> okay thanks
[22:00] <ssn> n0a1ias: then please keep future advice to yourself...
[22:00] <Ichat> help plz:   i got a newly installed xubuntu 10.4  - the installerd went just fine,  BUT now it installed,  i get 'random?"   complete  freeze of my pc:  well some times them mouse seams to work (but no click not even ctrl+alt+del (or backspace)  works  ....  hw:  amd athlon xp 2200+ / 1gb ddr  oem mbo (via chipset),
[22:00] <dr3af> SailorReality: /usr/bin/drunk
[22:00] <jrib> johzephine: note df doesn't require any compilation...
[22:00] <Ichat> question -  there is a WHOOOOOOLE lot of log files,  where am i to start
[22:01] <n0a1ias> ssn, if you move the home folder, then all your data will move to...
[22:01] <madfox> Ichat: Sounds like your install messed up or you have hardware issues
[22:01] <johzephine> jrib, ?
[22:01] <jrib> johzephine: what?
[22:01] <johzephine> jrib, I don't know what that means?
[22:01] <jrib> Habstinat: I don't know if it's hard to find the info in the link, but just read what ubottu said
[22:02] <jrib> johzephine: it means you don't have to do the ./configure, make, make install dance
[22:02] <Ichat> madfox:  -  reinstalled 3 times (diferent CDroms...  -      cd checks... ok   memtest OK .(2 runs).    -
[22:02] <n0a1ias> what is the name of the vnc thats in the repositories?
[22:02] <ssn> n0a1ias: my question here is about solving a problem that might even be a bug in the ubuntu netinstall. i will not move my encrypted homefolder nor will i reinstall.
[22:02] <johzephine> jrib, okay.  What do I do to run it then?
[22:02] <Habstinat> jrib, oh, thanks, I was looking in the article.
[22:02] <madfox> Ichat well then likely to be a hardware problem then
[22:02] <madfox> Ichat or you keep using a bad iso
[22:02] <veryhappy> what can i do that speech dispatcher not hangs boot of ubuntu 10.04.1 livecd? help is appreciated
[22:02] <jrib> Habstinat: if the article contradicts that and you have a spare minute, would be great if you added a note :)
[22:02] <jrib> johzephine: you still need to « cd » to the directory you extracted, have you done that?
[22:02] <n0a1ias> ssn, the home folder stays in your hd...and the bug is not in ubuntu, its in the grub, the same thing happened to me.
[22:03] <johzephine> jrib, yes
[22:03] <ssn> btw. grub-install /dev/sda did the trick
[22:03] <maco> johzephine: is there a "configure" file or not?
[22:03] <jrib> johzephine: type « ./df » and hit enter.  As long as you have the libraries mentioned in the readme, it should work
[22:03] <bruenig> hmm
[22:03] <Ichat> madfox:  - i know that THIS doesn't exclude ALL possible hardware failure the problem is that i hope to find more info in the logs,  just my prob is undoable if you dont realy know them,
[22:03] <greezmunkey> *Q* In my notification area, universal access is running and I can't seem to find where I started it, it gives no option to remove it either. Where do I look to remove this?
[22:03] <maco> johzephine: oh nevermind. jrib has it
[22:03] <Arthur___> what is my audio device, like my video would be /dev/video0 would the audio be /dev/audio0 ?
[22:03] <bruenig> /dev/dsp usually
[22:04] <johzephine> says ./libs/Dwarf_Fortress: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL_image-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[22:04] <maco> Arthur___: and /dev/snd/*
[22:04] <maco> Arthur___: and umm...oh there's a lot of devices that are all part of one hardware sound device
[22:04] <bruenig> johzephine: probably have a different version of the library or do not have libsdl installed at all
[22:04] <guntbert> n0a1ias: are you asking for server or client(viewer) ?
[22:04] <n0a1ias> what is the name of the vnc thats in the repositories?
[22:04] <n0a1ias> oh, sorry
[22:04] <jrib> johzephine: open README.linux and look for the libraries it talks about in Synaptic or your favorite APT frontend
[22:04] <Ichat> madfox:  -  3 cdroms is  3 downloaded iso 's   ... i dont just reburn ;) did that once LOL
[22:04] <n0a1ias> and both
[22:04] <wizzle> jrib, i trying to store downloaded file depend on file type
[22:04] <Habstinat> jrib, when I try to reload my package information after adding the lucid partner, I get this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/485137/
[22:04] <johzephine> okay thanks
[22:04] <madfox> Ichat most of the logs are in /var/logs I believe and insmod and dmesg can be your friend, though you have to learn those well
[22:05] <trism> greezmunkey: System/Preferences/Keyboard Accessibility tab, uncheck "Accessibility features can be toggled without keyboard shortcuts"
[22:05] <wizzle> jrib, is it possible?
[22:05] <Arthur___> in vlc i want to record video and audio i know the cam is /dev/video0
[22:05] <greezmunkey> trism: cool, checking that now :)
[22:05] <bruenig> madfox: any chat client you use as a regular user will not have its clients any /var/log
[22:05] <wizzle> jrib, do you know how?
[22:05] <Ichat> madfox:  - i can understand but its a big problem to read logs if you dont really know what they are supposed to look like ;)
[22:05] <bruenig> madfox: they will probably be in ~/.appname or ~/.config/appname
[22:05] <jrib> wizzle: ah, well I've always been meaning to write a script that uses inotify to do that.  I don't know of any tools that do it currently, but I imagine they exist
[22:06] <bruenig> madfox: will not have its logs in /var/log I meant to say
[22:06] <madfox> brunig but he is having hardware and system issues
[22:06] <madfox> bruenig *but he is having hardware and system issues
[22:06] <madfox> bruenig THOSE logs would be in /var/logs
[22:06] <jrib> Habstinat: you used add-apt-repository?
[22:06] <greezmunkey> trism: nice! thanks. That's been bothering me for some time.
[22:06] <Arthur___> VLC is unable to open the MRL 'alsa:///dev/snd'. Check the log for details. hum
[22:06] <bruenig> I didn't realize Ichat was the name of a user
[22:06] <bruenig> thought it was a program
[22:06] <guntbert> n0a1ias: the vnc server I use is vinagre, and as client I use xvnc4viewer
[22:07] <veryhappy> howto avoid error or rather hang up of boot because of speech dispatcher???
[22:07] <n0a1ias> thanks guntbert
[22:07] <Arthur___> VLC is unable to open the MRL 'alsa:///dev/snd/audio0'. Check the log for details.
[22:07] <guntbert> n0a1ias: you're welcome :-)
[22:07] <Habstinat> jrib, I did it with the Synaptic GUI in Settings > Repositories > Other Software.
[22:07] <Paragon> are the ubuntu servers down?
[22:07] <Ichat> bruenig:  - i registered this nic  (on other chatnetworks - way before  aple inc even had ichat i think ... or at least way before i had known of the 'apple inc program called ichat'
[22:08] <jrib> Habstinat: hmm, not sure if that adds the gpg key, but I guess not
[22:08] <Paragon> i can't seem to get any updates from apt
[22:08] <WinstonSmith> Paragon, the german ones are up
[22:08] <rob0917> what app would I use to read a txt.asc file?
[22:08] <Paragon> how do i change to those
[22:08] <greezmunkey> Here's an alternate mirror, if you need it: http://mirrors.cat.pdx.edu/ubuntu-releases
[22:08] <madfox> Ichat you could try running knoppix, on startup it goes through hardware checks and displays them on screen. Good for someone who wouldn't know what to look for otherwise
[22:08] <Habstinat> jrib, I'll try using add-apt-repository now.
[22:08] <jrib> Habstinat: (you need to add the gpg key yourself)
[22:09] <WinstonSmith> Paragon, gui or cli? or just edit sources.lst
[22:09] <madfox> Ichat though I'ts crap as a perm install, but could help your diagnostic search :)
[22:09] <Habstinat> jrib, what is the gpg key and how would I go about adding it?
[22:09] <crow_> hello. trying to play avi video file..won't do it. any ideas?
[22:09] <bruenig> Arthur___: might try /dev/mixer
[22:09] <Ichat> madfox:  -  ty,  -  ill download it tonight ...
[22:09] <flan_suse> Yay.
[22:09] <Filipek> crow_, no codecs installed?
[22:09] <bruenig> !codecs | crow_
[22:10] <discozohan> Can anyone say me, what is going on. I took 2 drives and installed ubuntu. So, i created 2 partitions on each drive, one for swap and another for root. Installed raid, so md0 and md1 appeared. After installation i cant boot ... Errors like "mounting /dev on /root/dev failed: No such file or directory"
[22:10] <discozohan> why ??
[22:10] <discozohan> raid 1
[22:10] <crow_> Filipek: I am new to this..will try
[22:10] <discozohan> I followed official tutorial on 100%
[22:10] <WinstonSmith> Habstinat, look here really handy for ppa's
[22:10] <WinstonSmith> http://popey.com/blog/2009/06/05/Easy_Script_To_Get_And_Install_PPA_GPG_Keys/
[22:10] <Arthur___> what is the path to the audio in ubuntu, my video is /dev/video0
[22:10] <greezmunkey> discozohan: what about a boot partition?
[22:10] <bruenig> Arthur___: did you try /dev/mixer
[22:11] <Arthur___> i want to record sound with my video
[22:11] <veryhappy> SPEECH DISPATCHER PROBLEMS: please help me speech dispatcher hangs on boot of ubuntu 10.04.1
[22:11] <Filipek> crow_, gimme a direct message if you run into problems...
[22:11] <madfox> veryhappy it helps if we know the exact error being tossed at you
[22:11] <flan_suse> Just wondering if it's normal for a RAID5 array (mdadm) to build at a speed of 4 MB/s. The total build time is estimated at 4,000 hours (2.7 days.)
[22:11] <Arthur___> VLC is unable to open the MRL 'alsa:///dev/mixer'. Check the log for details.
[22:11] <n0a1ias> ssn, even though you dont like my advice you can still ask for help here
[22:11] <discozohan> greezmunkey: hm, should i create also boot, with swap and root ?
[22:12] <bruenig> Arthur___: is your sound working?
[22:12] <Paragon> i can't connect to anything apparently
[22:12] <Arthur___> you sound recorder works
[22:12] <mcl0vin> am trying to run debian inside a virtualbox, when i go to full mode the screen is not center and i will have to scroll left and right just to get around ...this is on a hp mini notebook
[22:12] <Arthur___> i can make a mp3 oog...
[22:12] <bruenig> Arthur___: can you play it?
[22:12] <jrib> Habstinat: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#Authentication Tab is the closest I can get, but basically just use apt-key
[22:12] <Arthur___> yup
[22:12] <madfox> mcl0vin sounds like a resolution issue, but idk not intimate with virtualbox
[22:12] <greezmunkey> discozohan: you need a boot partition, but I wouldn't recommend it to be on your raid setup. Keep it outside of the raid partitions.
[22:13] <bruenig> Arthur___: what do you use to play it?
[22:13] <Habstinat> jrib, Ok, I'll try that.
[22:13] <Arthur___> i can record audio in sound recorder and play back yes
[22:13] <flan_suse> discozohan: RAID5?
[22:13] <Arthur___> mostly for audo i use rythmbox
[22:13] <discozohan> flan_suse: raid1 with 2 drives
[22:13] <bruenig> Arthur___: open ryhthmbox and then run lsof | grep rhythmbox
[22:13] <bruenig> if you do not have lsof installed, install it
[22:14] <greezmunkey> discozohan: I'm surprised that you could even partition your drives without one, unless you purposely deleted it...
[22:14] <plea> How do I delete words from my predictive text on ubuntu?
[22:14] <yowshi> how does one fix an "max number of connections for UID" error
[22:15] <yowshi> err UID 0
[22:15] <discozohan> greezmunkey: why ? I created partition and mounted in to "/". I followed this tutorial https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/advanced-installation.html#lvm
[22:15] <discozohan> greezmunkey: i can't get, its really hard to make advanced "user-friendly ubuntu" installation
[22:15] <discozohan> a lot of shit appeared
[22:16] <guntbert> mcl0vin: virtualbox support in #vbox
[22:16] <WinstonSmith> mcl0vin did you install the guest additions?
[22:16] <plea> How do I delete words from my predictive text on ubuntu?
[22:16] <guntbert> !language | discozohan
[22:16] <H4kB0x> disconnect
[22:16] <jca1981> Please help me with system recovery, tried to upgrade to lucid via ssh and my connection died, now it wont boot. i can get in via install cd and run dpkg --configure -a but if fails with "could not find image (/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-24-server"
[22:16] <Arthur___> lsof | grep rhythmbox then what?
[22:16] <mcl0vin> WinstonSmith: no
[22:16] <bruenig> Arthur___: pastebin the output
[22:16] <Arthur___> ok
[22:16] <greezmunkey> discozohan: It doesn't hurt to partition drives. Bang on it until you get it.
[22:17] <madfox> jca1981 thats easy, you dont have a kernel on said box o.O
[22:17] <WinstonSmith> mcl0vin, then do so it helps a lot with the resolutions
[22:17] <mcl0vin> WinstonSmith: how would i do that please
[22:17] <madfox> jca1981 search for that file from your install disc, and copy it over to the box in the proper spot
[22:17] <jrib> plea: "predictive text"?
[22:18] <jca1981> madfox, ahh thanks
[22:18] <WinstonSmith> mcl0vin, in the window of the VM click devices>install guest additions then follow instructions
[22:18] <plea> jrib: yes you know like if you type the letter "g" for example in a box it will show all of the words you have searched starting with that letter.
[22:18] <jrib> plea: in what context?  firefox?
[22:18] <guntbert> mcl0vin: you find virtual box support in #vbox
[22:18] <plea> jrib:yes
[22:18] <rob0917> how can I open a .asc file?
[22:19] <bruenig> rob0917: type "file foo.asc" and paste the output
[22:19] <madfox> plea then go to a FF channel >.> its not the OS's fault
[22:19] <WinstonSmith> mcl0vin, and follow guntbert's advice
[22:19] <erUSUL> rob0917: with gpg ?
[22:19] <Arthur___> lsof | grep rhythmbox == http://pastebin.com/UPYDRfEf
[22:19] <discozohan> greezmunkey: i have been banging for 2 days already. There is no fresh tutorial about it. I can make an installtion with lvm, but can't without. A lot of unpredictable behaviours :/
[22:20] <pie_time> I just made many long over due ubuntu updates and restarted my system. I have a Full Disk Encryption LUKS encrypted disk that wouldn't boot upon restart and instead brought me to some basic install/rescue screen. There were 2 other drives as well, neither one encrypted, one flash usb and one large external usb drive, attached to the computer when I restarted it that also wouldn't mount when I tried to plug them into another ubuntu system.
[22:20] <pie_time>  The error message they gave when my system tryed to auto mount them was, eg, "Unable to mount 2.0 GB Filesystem", "Unauthorized". I've been able to mount them using fsck but still have the problem with the LUKS install.
[22:21] <mcl0vin> WinstonSmith: guntbert thank you
[22:21] <bruenig> Arthur___: heh, that didn't help because rhythmbox uses libraries to actually access the sound device woops
[22:21] <WinstonSmith> mcl0vin, welcome
[22:21] <mcl0vin> i also have another question...running ubuntu remix, how can i make it look like regular ubuntu
[22:21] <mcl0vin> turn off the menu that is on the left forexample on the desktop
[22:21] <rob0917> erUSUL, i'm trying to sign ubuntu code of conduct
[22:22] <pjz> anyone know how to debug virtualbox-ose crashing my computer when I tryand boot up a vm off of a CD?
[22:22] <Habstinat> jrib, so basically I should import the key file of the ubuntu lucid partner? And where does apt-key come in to play? :S
[22:22] <yowshi> how does one fix an "max number of connections for UID 0" error?
[22:22] <madfox> mcl0vin disable or uninstall the clutter desktop app
[22:22] <jrib> Habstinat: it's in the link I gave you
[22:22] <jrib> Habstinat: that adds the key to the keys apt should trust
[22:22] <Paragon> what's the abbreviation for the german servers?
[22:22] <Arthur___> should be a command from terminal to tell what the audio device is? like /dev/?
[22:22] <guntbert> pjz: ask in #vbox please
[22:23] <flan_suse> Is it normal for a RAID5 array (mdadm) to build at a speed of 4 MB/s? The total build time is estimated at 4,000 hours (2.7 days) for a 2 TB RAID5 array (3 TB disks).
[22:23] <erUSUL> rob0917: what is the asc file? the CoC signed with your key ? or akey you try to import?
[22:23] <guntbert> Paragon: abbreviation?
[22:23] <Paragon> like
[22:23] <pjz> guntbert: thx, will do
[22:23] <Paragon> us.archive.ubuntu.org
[22:23] <Paragon> or
[22:23] <Paragon> instead of us
[22:23] <Paragon> what would i put
[22:23] <Paragon> de is down
[22:23] <mcl0vin> madfox: how can i do that please
[22:23] <madfox> flan_suse I think you have bigger problems if you believe 4K hours = 2.7 days :)
[22:24] <flan_suse> madfox: I meant 4,000 minutes, lol.
[22:24] <madfox> mcl0vin >system> startup apps
[22:24] <hoowoo> quit
[22:24] <hoowoo> exit
[22:24] <guntbert> Paragon: are you in the GUI? then look at system/administration/softwaresources
[22:24] <Paragon> i'm in the termina
[22:24] <Paragon> l
[22:24] <guntbert> !who | Paragon
[22:25] <Habstinat> jrib, Thank you, I was able to add the repository, I think. The packages are showing up now.
[22:25] <WinstonSmith> paragon de is NOT down.
[22:25] <Arthur___> i tried /dev/audio audio1 audio0 audio3 sound sound0 sound1 snd snd0 ... ect
[22:25] <Paragon> WinstonSmith, it wouldn't connect for me
[22:25] <Paragon> :(
[22:25] <Paragon> i can ping google and the like
[22:26] <WinstonSmith> Paragon, the problem seems to be your machine or connection. here all is fine :)
[22:26] <skered> How do get the original panel in Gnome that has Apps, Places, System, Network, Time, Logino/out from the default install?
[22:26] <madfox> skered remix or desktop?
[22:26] <skered> desktop?
[22:26] <erUSUL> !resetpanels | skered
[22:26] <guntbert> Paragon: try ubuntu.intergenia.de or ubuntu.mirror.tudos.de or ubuntu.inode.at (in austria)
[22:26] <skered> I don't know the difference
[22:27] <^james_foo^> madfox: well at this point, on NBE i have the similar problem. what now?
[22:27] <Arthur___> anyone know what my audio device is in ubuntu 10.04 my video is /dev/video0
[22:27] <erUSUL> Arthur___: /dev/snd/*
[22:27] <veryhappy> ok i found another error "init: ureadahead-other main process (1025)&(1026) terminated with status 4
[22:27] <madfox> ^james_foo^ problem with what?
[22:28] <^james_foo^> madfox: how to get the panel and the 'apps/places/...' thing on my netbook
[22:28] <Arthur___> VLC is unable to open the MRL 'alsa:///dev/snd/*'. Check the log for details.
[22:28] <nn3> hi
[22:28] <veryhappy> perhaps anybody is INTERESTED in my problem???
[22:29] <madfox> !resetpanels | ^james_foo^
[22:29] <SocialNicheGuru> hi. i need to reconfigure mysql which is installed. is there a command line command which I can execute?
[22:29] <dominicdinada> Why are connections still active when I blocked with iptables ?
[22:30] <guntbert> veryhappy: interest and the ability to help are very different things - so please be patient
[22:30] <madfox> dominicdinada: what kind of connections?
[22:30] <mcl0vin> madfox: i did and reboot but it still shows
[22:30] <veryhappy> ok
[22:30] <WinstonSmith> ^james_foo^,  maybe you should install this :https://launchpad.net/desktop-switcher
[22:30] <dominicdinada> madfox:  a remote udp connection
[22:30] <johnzorn> how do I get gnomes application bar back, its now gone
[22:30] <justyb_> SocialNicheGuru, If you need to configure something about the server itself you can edit your config file.
[22:31] <madfox> dominicdinada: I'd double check your rule table
[22:31] <intok> Anyone use avast! Linux? I just installed it and tried updating the sigs, it crashed half way in and now when I try to open it, it says "an error occurred in avast! engine: invalid argument" then just exits out.
[22:31] <madfox> mcl0vin: ya sure? Double check it
[22:32] <Pilot> Enter text here...hi
[22:32] <^james_foo^> madfox: don't work. maybe because NBE doesn't have those menus.... and i can't add anything to any panel i think
[22:32] <guntbert> veryhappy: what is a "speech dispatcher"?
[22:32] <dominicdinada> madfox: i added this rule....... iptables -A INPUT -s 75.29.24.***  -j DROP where *** is the last part of ip
[22:32] <Guest14778> hola
[22:32] <WinstonSmith> ^james_foo^,  maybe you should install this :https://launchpad.net/desktop-switcher
[22:32] <^james_foo^> WinstonSmith: yeah, from the page that seems to be the thing
[22:32] <^james_foo^> WinstonSmith: only, how to install?
[22:32] <yowshi> grrr software center wopnt load
[22:33] <Guest14778> d
[22:33] <veryhappy> ask ubuntu ;) no the problem is now "init: ureadahead-other main process (1025)&(1026) terminated with status 4"
[22:33] <^james_foo^> WinstonSmith: btw, some weeks ago when i had seriously damaged the previous install, the classic desktop came up by itself one time... not later though :/
[22:33] <dominicdinada> madfox: then i added the outbound rule.... iptables -A OUTPUT -p tcp -d 75.29.24.*** -j DROP   (then added it for udp...) when i run iptarf i still See udp packets flooding my computer
[22:33] <veryhappy> and then the boot hangs
[22:33] <madfox> dominicdinada: well im not an expert on iptables, but its possible iptables only drops incoming connections, not established ones
[22:34] <madfox> dominicdinada: though nvm cause UDP should just be stopped .-.
[22:34] <madfox> dominicdinada: hunt down an iptables channel?
[22:34] <WinstonSmith> ^james_foo^,  when you login cant you just choose gnome as session?
[22:34] <flubacake> its fast!
[22:34] <dominicdinada> madfox: the machine in question is shut down atm.
[22:34] <^james_foo^> WinstonSmith: and, isn't the switcher only for 9? it says NBR. i think, in 10 it's called NBE, so this don't seem up to date
[22:35] <madfox> dominicdinada: the one youre blocking?
[22:35] <^james_foo^> WinstonSmith: hm, should check that. only, i do not log in manually, so dunno
[22:35] <dominicdinada> madfox: no the one taking all of those packets till i track the problem they would have to make it through. Routers, 2 firewalls and nothing caught those connections hmmm
[22:35] <WinstonSmith> ^james_foo^,  so logout and look or have a look here : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1550277
[22:36] <madfox> dominicdinada: Well, id start out by blocking everything, and then loosenup till I see them pouring through
[22:37] <greezmunkey> dominicdinada: are you using nmap or wireshark to see this activity?
[22:37] <dominicdinada> madfox: maybe so but thanks for the help but since you don't know. IPtables well enough I am looking for advanced users not guesstimates
[22:37] <dominicdinada> greezmunkey: IPTraf
[22:37] <greezmunkey> dominicdinada: dude.
[22:38] <Paragon> what's the best way to check what's going on with the ubuntu servers
[22:38] <Paragon> apparently i'm a bad
[22:38] <dominicdinada> greezmunkey:  ?
[22:38] <madfox> dominicdinada: the last advice wasn't a guess >.> its the proper way to figure out why your tool isn't blocking what you believe it should
[22:39] <guntbert> !who | veryhappy (I didn't see your reply before)
[22:39] <greezmunkey> dominicdinada: madfox was just trying to help, no need to flame him.
[22:39] <WinstonSmith> Paragon, can you ping de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu ?
[22:39] <veryhappy> ubottu: ok i will
[22:39] <WinstonSmith> Paragon, sry de.archive.ubuntu.com
[22:39] <dominicdinada> madfox: greezmunkey I said thankyou. I said SINCE he doesn't know IPTABLES well as he even said I am asking for other help. Not a flame the facts.
[22:39] <Paragon> WinstonSmith, unknown host
[22:40] <evan_> Hi, guys.
[22:40] <^james_foo^> WinstonSmith: interesting idea, but logout/in did the job it seems :) only now i don't have all windows in fullscreen and the title bar takes extra space... hm. can't have everything?
[22:40] <veryhappy> ubottu: the problem is "init: ureadahead-other main process (1025)&(1026) terminated with status 4" whats this what can i do?
[22:40] <dominicdinada> greezmunkey: not my fault the rules are in my iptables but the thing isnt doing its job
[22:40] <madfox> dominicdinada: hence why I suggested finding an iptables channel is a better idea :) that or some sort of firewall channel if none can be found
[22:40] <guntbert> veryhappy: how do you know that your problem has something to do with that speech dispatcher?
[22:41] <WinstonSmith> ^james_foo^,  thats why its called NBE caus its optimized for small screen
[22:41] <greezmunkey> dominicdinada: have you been able to determine what the udp packets contain? Like maybe something on your system is _requesting_ them?
[22:41] <WinstonSmith> Paragon, there is something wrong with your connection or DNS
[22:41] <veryhappy> guntbert: because after that comes only 1 line and then the system hangs
[22:42] <dominicdinada> greezmunkey: no actually I didnt go that far as i looked for a commandline packet capture and i know wireshark is gui i searched and didnt see the cli
[22:42] <^james_foo^> WinstonSmith: yeah, only the normal NBE launcher just doesn't work after i install the graphics driver. rubbish bitmaps and so on... so i had to deinstall it, only no menus then
[22:43] <rob_p> dominicdinada: tcpdump is nice
[22:43] <sro> hello fellas
[22:43] <veryhappy> hello sro
[22:43] <greezmunkey> dominicdinada: try tcpdump.
[22:43] <veryhappy> sro: whats your problem :)
[22:43] <sro> very happy.. i got a couple
[22:43] <WinstonSmith> Paragon, try a :  nslookup de.archive.ubuntu.com 208.67.222.222
[22:43] <[thor]> derr...
[22:43] <^james_foo^> WinstonSmith: (and btw i try to get rid of the title bar of maximized windows on lager screen as well. just useless)
[22:43] <dominicdinada> rob_p: greezmunkey i will grab it later and resume troubleshooting as the machine is down
[22:43] <[thor]> how to execute a .bin ( with proper chmod applied already) from CLI?
[22:43] <sro> how do i repair bad sector on my hard drive
[22:44] <WinstonSmith> [thor], ./some.bin
[22:44] <erUSUL> [thor]: ./file.bin
[22:44] <mcl0vin> madfox: i got it
[22:44] <veryhappy> i guess you cannot repair it
[22:44] <guntbert> !md5sum | veryhappy did you check?
[22:44]  * [thor] facepalms
[22:44] <madfox> mcl0vin nice
[22:44] <erUSUL> sro: there is an option to fsck to mark them
[22:44] <^james_foo^> WinstonSmith: so, anyone knows where this title-bar-to-panel featur comes from?
[22:45] <sro> lol..im not very familiar with linux
[22:45] <kermit> how do i turn off mdns lookups?  everytime a reverse lookup fails, an app hangs for 5 seconds waiting for mdns.
[22:45] <^james_foo^> sro: better replace the drive. anything else is not a good option
[22:45] <madfox> sro bad sector is physical damage :/ read how to use fsck to get your OS to avoid them
[22:45] <WinstonSmith> ^james_foo^, im nit really familiar with NBE
[22:45] <WinstonSmith> *not
[22:45] <mcl0vin> madfox: one final question: when i open any app for example Virtualbox in this case i don't get the [-][[]][x] on the top right corner ...you have an idea why is that
[22:45] <jeeves_Moss> how can I see a tailed stream output from gpsd to verify I have the GPS connected properly?
[22:46] <^james_foo^> WinstonSmith: who is ... :) thanks anyway
[22:46] <sro> thanks for the advice guys..
[22:46] <WinstonSmith> ^james_foo^, my pleasure
[22:46] <greezmunkey> jeeves_Moss: is it serial, or usb, or ethernet?
[22:46] <veryhappy> ubottu: i will check that
[22:46] <WinstonSmith> Paragon, try a :  nslookup de.archive.ubuntu.com 208.67.222.222 ==> did you try this?
[22:46] <madfox> mcl0vin ahh I remember something about that, check your windows settings under system I believe
[22:47] <jeeves_Moss> greezmunkey, it's a dumb M4 streets and trips GPS.  it's a serial to USB adaptor conntected to /dev/ttyUSB0
[22:47] <Paragon> WinstonSmith, apparently anything that goes to ubuntu.com is denying me
[22:47] <erUSUL> sro: from a livecd run « sudo e2fsck -ck /dev/sdxx » sdxx has to be replaced eith the actual partition you want to check ( the one holding ubuntu probably )
[22:47] <madfox> Paragon check your host file?
[22:47] <greezmunkey> jeeves_Moss: You can verify the gps by using a terminal emulator, connect to the com port your gps is using.
[22:47] <WinstonSmith> Paragon, so the command did not resolve the hostname to ip?
[22:47] <geraD100> l
[22:47] <geraD100> l
[22:47] <geraD100> l
[22:47] <FloodBot3> geraD100: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:48] <mcl0vin> madfox: not there
[22:48] <geraD100> m
[22:48] <geraD100> m
[22:48] <geraD100> m
[22:48] <geraD100> m
[22:48] <geraD100> m
[22:48] <geraD100> mm
[22:48] <geraD100> m
[22:48] <geraD100> m
[22:48] <geraD100> mm
[22:48] <geraD100> m
[22:48] <geraD100> m
[22:48] <geraD100> m
[22:48] <geraD100> m
[22:48] <geraD100> m
[22:48] <greezmunkey> jeeves_Moss: minicom works for me.
[22:48] <jrib> erm
[22:48] <veryhappy> ubottu: hey can i simply update existing ubuntu with ubuntu on the live cd?
[22:49] <jeeves_Moss> greezmunkey, can't I just telnet to "telnet localhost 2947"?
[22:49] <Gnea> veryhappy: update or upgrade?
[22:49] <veryhappy> upgrade i think
[22:49] <imanc> ubotto: you suck, bro
[22:49] <Gnea> !upgrade
[22:49] <greezmunkey> jeeves_Moss: I don't know your exect config, but what happens when you try that?
[22:50] <greezmunkey> s/exect/exact
[22:50] <bindi> joose@joose-info:~$ sudo mount -o remount,rw /
[22:50] <bindi> mount: block device /dev/hda1 is write-protected, mounting read-only
[22:50] <Gnea> veryhappy: I'm pretty sure you can make a CD with the latest packages on it, then pop it into a system and upgrade it that way... or did you mean a full version upgrade?
[22:50] <bindi> what's causing this? :f
[22:50] <jeeves_Moss> greezmunkey, "{"class":"VERSION","release":"2.92","rev":"svn","proto_major":3,"proto_minor":1}"
[22:50] <pie_time> I just made many long over due ubuntu updates and restarted my system. I have a Full Disk Encryption LUKS encrypted disk that wouldn't boot upon restart and instead brought me to some basic install/rescue screen. There were 2 other drives as well, neither one encrypted, one flash usb and one large external usb drive, attached to the computer when I restarted it that also wouldn't mount when I tried to plug them into another ubuntu system.
[22:50] <pie_time>  The error message they gave when my system tryed to auto mount them was, eg, "Unable to mount 2.0 GB Filesystem", "Unauthorized". I've been able to mount them using fsck but still have the problem with the LUKS install.
[22:50] <Gnea> bindi: it probably needs to be fscked
[22:50] <geraD100> aa
[22:50] <geraD100> aa
[22:50] <geraD100> a
[22:50] <geraD100> a
[22:50] <Greyscale> How do I set a servers hostname?
[22:50] <geraD100> aaa
[22:50] <madfox> mcl0vin crap sorry but Idr
[22:50] <jrib> !hostname | Greyscale
[22:50] <Greyscale> echo "name" > /etc/hostname and reboot?
[22:50] <geraD100> a
[22:51] <d-eee> can Tor function from the command line or does it need firefox?
[22:51] <jeeves_Moss> can someone muzzle GeraD100 please?
[22:51] <dominicdinada> !op |
[22:51] <greezmunkey> jeeves_Moss: yeah, try minicom instead. Set it for your com port, baud rate, tec
[22:51] <dominicdinada> !op
[22:51] <veryhappy> Gnea: i have here a 10.04.1 cd that is recognized by ubuntu 9.04 on my harddisk
[22:51] <Greyscale> jrib, thing is< I've done that.
[22:51] <mcl0vin> madfox: ?
[22:51] <jeeves_Moss> greezmunkey, thanks.  I've got to run and pick up my fiance.
[22:51] <Greyscale> And it didn't work.
[22:51] <veryhappy> Gnea: can i upgrade it with the livecd ?
[22:51] <jeeves_Moss> greezmunkey, thanks again
[22:51] <Greyscale> It worked on 2 servers, but not the third
[22:51] <d-eee> they booted geraD10000
[22:51] <jrib> Greyscale: be more specific and provide more details...
[22:51] <greezmunkey> JEEB: np :)
[22:51] <Gnea> veryhappy: you can't go direct like that anyway, you'd have to upgrade to 9.10 first, then to 10.04
[22:51] <madfox> mcl0vin I dont remember how to fix that one xD sorry, gl
[22:51] <greezmunkey> heh
[22:51] <guntbert> Greyscale: the link from ubottu contained two steps, you need them both
[22:52] <Greyscale> jrib, did "echo 'liberty' > /etc/hostname; reboot"
[22:52] <WinstonSmith> geraD100, = /bin/verydumb
[22:52] <veryhappy> important would be for me that i get ubuntu 10.04.1 running
[22:52] <jrib> Greyscale: cat /etc/hostname
[22:52] <veryhappy> thats my actually problem
[22:52] <Gnea> enough about the spammer, please
[22:52] <greezmunkey> WinstonSmith: he's probably sleping at his keyboard.
[22:52] <mcl0vin> madfox: you know what its called so i can search for it :D
[22:52] <greezmunkey> sleeping
[22:52] <dominicdinada> WinstonSmith: hes banned :P
[22:52] <Greyscale> jrib, as soon as the machine is back I will
[22:52] <bindi> Gnea: /dev/hda1: recovering journal
[22:53] <bindi> what does this mean?
[22:53] <WinstonSmith> dominicdinada, well i DO hope he stays that :@
[22:53] <d-eee> persona non-gratta
[22:53] <madfox> mcl0vin nope, I just remember dealing with it once playing around with different settings, but I cant seem to find where i did that
[22:53] <Gnea> bindi: it means just that: it's recovering the journal portion of the filesystem from a bad reboot
[22:53] <d-eee> but he is welcome to loco-kingston
[22:53] <d-eee> ya don no
[22:53] <LjL> d-eee: grata*
[22:53] <Joose> Gnea: well, the machine has 350d uptime
[22:53] <dominicdinada> WinstonSmith: Me as well
[22:53] <Joose> Gnea: so i doubt it's a bad reboot
[22:53] <cyborgsmurf> Hi everyone! First of all I want to thank you all for creating this community :) Love it!
[22:54] <d-eee> LjL:  true. thanks ;)
[22:54] <pie_time> I've got a problem with some external drives. I have to manually mount them using sudo every time i connect them and then use sudo when I do any operations. It used to mount manually and not require sudo for operations like copying files or renaming.
[22:54] <Joose> Gnea: Error reading block 7557549 (Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read) while reading directory block.  Ignore error<y>?
[22:54] <WinstonSmith> dominicdinada, i always wished for the ability to punch somebody over tcp/ip
[22:54] <HeadshotDaniel> Hi
[22:54] <jrib> Greyscale: ok.  And don't forget ubottu's note about /etc/hosts
[22:54] <HeadshotDaniel> I use Ubuntu on my PC. :P Isn't that legal?
[22:54] <Gnea> Joose, bindi: with 350 days, anything could go wrong with the hardware. it needs to be booted with a livecd, then fscked without being mounted to fix the errors, then booted normally once those errors have all been properly addressed.
[22:54] <d-eee> Tor, does it have to be used via Firefox?
[22:54] <Greyscale> jrib, just updated the other two
[22:55] <Greyscale> one didn't have it, the other did
[22:55] <dominicdinada> WinstonSmith: can always use other means :) but me as well
[22:55] <jrib> Greyscale: you are being vague
[22:55] <veryhappy> Gnea: can i make a md5sum of my whole ubuntu cd to check the difference?
[22:55] <Gnea> Joose, bindi: run it like this:  sudo fsck -y /dev/hda1
[22:55] <madfox> d-eee the proggy tor? nope
[22:55] <d-eee> madfox: yes
[22:55] <Gnea> veryhappy: what would be the point of that?
[22:55] <hashim> hi ubunters !!
[22:55] <Greyscale> jrib, "liberty" won't take the change, "donau" didn't have a line in /etc/hosts and "bretonia" worked as described
[22:55] <madfox> d-eee you can tor other apps on the command line by just running tor proggy
[22:55] <Gnea> Joose: I should probably ask, is it ext3 or ext4?
[22:56] <HeadshotDaniel> Hello?
[22:56] <pie_time> I've got a problem with some external drives. I have to manually mount them using sudo every time i connect them and then use sudo when I do any operations. It used to mount manually and not require sudo for operations like copying files or renaming.
[22:56] <HeadshotDaniel> Whatever, so this is legal then.
[22:56] <Greyscale> jrib, liberty & dona are 10.04, bretonia is jaunty
[22:56] <Joose> Gnea: ext3 :(
[22:56] <madfox> d-eee like say nmap, but it only works on full connections
[22:56] <HeadshotDaniel> ...
[22:56] <jrib> Greyscale: what are troubleshooting now?
[22:56] <d-eee> madfox: ok, command line. thankx
[22:56] <Gnea> !hello | HeadshotDaniel
[22:56] <HeadshotDaniel> umm, what?
[22:56] <hashim> i want to know something
[22:56] <cyborgsmurf> I use ubuntu 9.10... I used 10.04 LTS before but switched back due to USB error etc. I wonder how safe it is to switch to 10.04 again?
[22:56] <greezmunkey> pie_time: check your fstab file.
[22:56] <IdleOne> HeadshotDaniel: Do you have a ubuntu support question?
[22:56] <Gnea> HeadshotDaniel: why wouldn't it be legal?
[22:56] <veryhappy> Gnea: if the md5sum of the cd is not same with the iso
[22:56] <VCoolio> pie_time: is it in fstab? do you have write permissions to the folder you mount it to? what mount options do you give it?
[22:56] <HeadshotDaniel> Yes I do.
[22:56] <veryhappy> the cd is damaged
[22:56] <HeadshotDaniel> Legal question, too.
[22:56] <IdleOne> HeadshotDaniel: Please ask it.
[22:57] <HeadshotDaniel> Is it legal to install Ubuntu/Linux on any platform?
[22:57] <Joose> "Is running Linux legal?"
[22:57] <Joose> w
[22:57] <Joose> what
[22:57] <madfox> Headshot I studied my share of law :) go for it
[22:57] <hashim> is it possible to play urban terror with bots ( single mode ) ?
[22:57] <HeadshotDaniel> PC, Mac, Portable/handheld etc?
[22:57] <madfox> Headshot lol ones you own or have permission to do so yeah...
[22:57] <greezmunkey> HeadshotDaniel: if you own the hardware it is.
[22:57] <jrib> legal questions should be asked of lawyers...
[22:57] <erUSUL> HeadshotDaniel: any plataform is too broad. we do not know what will Apple do next ;P
[22:57] <Gnea> veryhappy: uhm, the cd itself should have a self-verification process. yes, the md5sum of the cd itself is going to be different from the iso anyway, so no, that would not be a good measurement method.
[22:57] <Greyscale> HeadshotDaniel, yes. Ubuntu & Linux in general are licenced freely
[22:57] <Greyscale> you can do most anything you want as a private citizen as you can possibly imagine
[22:58] <HeadshotDaniel> I installed PC on Mac and Ubuntu on PC and Linux on Xbox.
[22:58] <Greyscale> gets a bit more interesting once you try selling things
[22:58] <HeadshotDaniel> lol :P
[22:58] <HeadshotDaniel> Ok, ok greyscale
[22:58] <pie_time> greezmunkey, VCoolio  its not in fstab i have write permissions in the folder i want to mnt i on and i dont give it any mount options
[22:58] <Gnea> HeadshotDaniel: it's legal as long as the device in question isn't owned by someone else that specifically forbids the replacing of the OS in writing.
[22:58] <HeadshotDaniel> I also heard Nintendo DS runs on linux
[22:58] <IdleOne> HeadshotDaniel: This topic is better suited for #ubuntu-offtopic.
[22:58] <HeadshotDaniel> ok
[22:58] <madfox> Headshot PC=anything that runs on the x86 architecture
[22:58] <HeadshotDaniel> What?
[22:58] <HeadshotDaniel> what madfox?
[22:58] <greezmunkey> Gnea: exactly ;)
[22:58] <Gnea> :)
[22:58] <HeadshotDaniel> I didnt quite get it?
[22:58] <HeadshotDaniel> I know what x86 is though
[22:59] <madfox> HeadshotDaniel Windows ISNT PC windows is windows
[22:59] <VCoolio> pie_time: mount -o user,rw  or to have it mounted automatically once you click it in the file manager put it in /etc/fstab
[22:59] <c|oneman> Whats the deal with doing './program' what does that mean? run program in current directory?
[22:59] <Gnea> madfox: sparcs also run linux legally
[22:59] <cyborgsmurf> Im afraid to do the upgrade from 9.10 to 10.04... has it become more stable yet?
[22:59] <Gnea> cyborgsmurf: yes, it has.
[22:59] <Joose> Gnea: /dev/hda1: ***** FILE SYSTEM WAS MODIFIED ***** /dev/hda1: ***** REBOOT LINUX ***** /dev/hda1: 32998/2510032 files (1.9% non-contiguous), 505723/10036600 blocks
[22:59] <madfox> HeadshotDaniel Modern macs use the x86 intel too and thereby are PCs
[22:59] <Gnea> Joose: good job.
[22:59] <Gnea> madfox: your statement is flawed.
[22:59] <HeadshotDaniel> Oh, so Macs ARE PC's still...
[22:59] <cyborgsmurf> Gnea: what about the USB-stick probs it had?
[23:00] <HeadshotDaniel> sudo rm -rf /
[23:00] <greezmunkey> op!
[23:00] <madfox> Gnea keyword modern macs the old ones run on PowerPC
[23:00] <veryhappy> i just dont know why my notebook always hangs after init: ureadahead-other main process (1025)&(1026) terminated with status 4
[23:00] <Gnea> madfox: but it's not illegal to run linux on a powerpc
[23:00] <madfox> Gnea I never said it wasn't
[23:00] <greezmunkey> IdleOne: you could see that coming a mile away!
[23:00] <zzzed_> c|oneman, if you just type 'program' your PATH will be searched and if your current directory is not in the path, the p
[23:01] <zzzed_> c
[23:01] <erUSUL> HeadshotDaniel: no they do not have any legacy stuff pc's still carry. they jumped to EFI and left BIOS behind
[23:01] <cyborgsmurf> Gnea: what about flash issues?
[23:01] <zzzed_> c|oneman, program will not be found. ./program says run program IN current directory
[23:01] <Gnea> madfox: okay, I just re-read what you said earlier that I missed, sorry
[23:01] <madfox> Gnea np :)
[23:01] <Gnea> :)
[23:01] <c|oneman> zzzed_: okay, thanks. Glad you found your pipe, too.
[23:02] <Gnea> cyborgsmurf: usb stick? flash? ?
[23:02] <jeffrey_> i have a file full of .rar's with ebooks in em and i only wanny keep the .pdf's not .txt out of the rars can i do that in a terminal?
[23:02] <jrib> jeffrey_: yes
[23:02] <Gnea> jeffrey_: yup
[23:03] <madfox> jeffrey_: yeah but good luck :) that takes a bit of know-how with specific terminal progs
[23:03] <Gnea> !pm | jeffrey_
[23:03] <erUSUL> jeffrey_: without decompressing them ? or what you really asking? with file you meant folder right?
[23:04] <pie_time> VCoolio, can i ask you another question, related?
[23:04] <madfox> well I gtg Ill help out again later peeps!
[23:04] <VCoolio> pie_time: sure; but address the whole channel, more chance of being lucky
[23:04] <WinstonSmith> madfox, cya
[23:04] <pie_time> I just made many long over due ubuntu updates and restarted my system. I have a Full Disk Encryption LUKS encrypted disk that wouldn't boot upon restart and instead brought me to some basic install/rescue screen. There were 2 other drives as well, neither one encrypted, one flash usb and one large external usb drive, attached to the computer when I restarted it that also wouldn't mount when I tried to plug them into another ubuntu system.
[23:04] <pie_time>  The error message they gave when my system tryed to auto mount them was, eg, "Unable to mount 2.0 GB Filesystem", "Unauthorized". I've been able to mount them using fsck but still have the problem with the LUKS install.
[23:05] <veryhappy> Gnea: what about the problem that i have that could have to do with the message sensors will be loaded?
[23:05] <veryhappy> Gnea: always after i got the message the system is hanging
[23:06] <pie_time> hello!
[23:06] <VCoolio> pie_time: I don't know about encryption and stuff; but to be authorized to mount the disk needs to be in /etc/fstab and the user must be able to mount (you set that in the fstab line)
[23:07] <_b_> hi
[23:07] <greezmunkey> pie_time: paste your /etc/fstab file http://paste.ubuntu.com
[23:07] <pie_time> VCoolio, is the fstab in the mbr? because i cant access it unless its outside the encrypted system
[23:07] <Tom-B> Hello, I am attempting to install postfix via terminal with "sudo apt-get install postfix" I am stuck on the first blue screen where I select mail server config it gives me some options and an <Ok> below
[23:08] <Tom-B> What do I press/type to continue?
[23:08] <Tom-B> I'm stuck on the screen
[23:08] <_b_> hi
[23:08] <zykes-> is there 389 directory server for ubuntu ?
[23:08] <jrib> Tom-B: navigate with tab, select with space (or enter?)
[23:09] <zykes-> can't see any "newer" packages for it
[23:09] <jrib> Tom-B: and the arrows too
[23:09] <pie_time> VCoolio, is the fstab in the mbr? because i cant access it unless its outside the encrypted system
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> Tom-B: use tab and enter
[23:09] <VCoolio> pie_time: don't know what mbr is; you need /etc/fstab
[23:10] <_b_>  
[23:10] <Tom-B> thanks all
[23:10] <pie_time> VCoolio, i cant access that. it's inside the encrypted LUKS install
[23:11] <_b_> hi
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> !hi | _b_
[23:12] <pie_time> VCoolio, are you there?
[23:12] <pie_time> I just made many long over due ubuntu updates and restarted my system. I have a Full Disk Encryption LUKS encrypted disk that wouldn't boot upon restart and instead brought me to some basic install/rescue screen. There were 2 other drives as well, neither one encrypted, one flash usb and one large external usb drive, attached to the computer when I restarted it that also wouldn't mount when I tried to plug them into another ubuntu system.
[23:12] <pie_time>  The error message they gave when my system tryed to auto mount them was, eg, "Unable to mount 2.0 GB Filesystem", "Unauthorized". I've been able to mount them using fsck but still have the problem with the LUKS install.
[23:12] <VCoolio> pie_time: yes, but as I said, encryption and LUKS is beyond me; can't help you I'm afraid
[23:12] <_b_>  spam
[23:12] <_b_> spam
[23:12] <_b_> spam
[23:12] <_b_>  
[23:12] <FloodBot3> _b_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:13] <crucialhoax> I installed the Faenza icons and the install script fails.
[23:14] <SupraMKIII> Hey guys, I need a hand. Just installed Ubuntu on my laptop and all is well, however when I installed the hardware drivers and rebooted, all I get is a black screen.
[23:14] <SupraMKIII> It's an nVidia 310m GPU.
[23:15] <greezmunkey> SupraMKIII: does your laptop have a video out port on it?
[23:15] <pie_time> hello!
[23:15] <SupraMKIII> Yes, VGA and HDMI.
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> SupraMKIII: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-ubuntu-10-04-lts-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup.html
[23:16] <tripelb> hi all (can I install ubuntu on a hard drive from a USB liveCD?)
[23:16] <cast> tripelb: yes.
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> tripelb: absolutely
[23:16] <greezmunkey> SupraMKIII: Is it booted up now? If so try alt+F2 - see if you get a console screen.
[23:16] <SupraMKIII> Someone had told me to try Ctrl+alt+F2, which did nothing. I'll start the laptop now and try just Alt+F2 though.
[23:17] <tripelb> hi ActionParsnip, that would get around my CD-drive problem. (I can install Windows XP form the CD drive but Ubuntu fails, 10.04 and 9.04)
[23:17] <IdleOne> greezmunkey: alt-F2 bring up a run application box
[23:17] <greezmunkey> SupraMKIII: my bad, it is ctrl+alt+f2, sorry!
[23:17] <tripelb> hi all 2nd question, can I boot a MAC from an Ubuntu liveCD?
[23:17] <SupraMKIII> Ahh. Yeah, that didn't do anything whatsoever.
[23:17] <greezmunkey> SupraMKIII: check the link ActionParsnip gave you.
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> tripelb: if you are using windows now you can use this: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/downloads/Universal-USB-Installer/Universal-USB-Installer-1.7.9.0.exe
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> tripelb: if you are using ubuntu then run: usb-creator-gtk
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> greezmunkey: i probably account for 50% of the traffic there, get LOADS of users with the "black screen at boot"
[23:19] <mcl0vin> can someone please help me .... i lost my min, max, close buttons any suggestions please
[23:19] <tripelb> ActionParsnip I copied what you said about question 1. Will try it.
[23:19] <WinstonSmith> ActionParsnip, that and the "my sound doesnt work"
[23:19] <greezmunkey> ActionParsnip: yeah, I had a similar problem back with 9.04. It was that X server was pointed to the video output port.
[23:20] <tripelb> I have a friend with an older Mac and it won't boot. Can I make an Ubuntu liveCd and boot it from that, like I can for a Windows system?
[23:20] <pie_time> I just made many long over due ubuntu updates and restarted my system. I have a Full Disk Encryption LUKS encrypted disk that wouldn't boot upon restart and instead brought me to some basic install/rescue screen. There were 2 other drives as well, neither one encrypted, one flash usb and one large external usb drive, attached to the computer when I restarted it that also wouldn't mount when I tried to plug them into another ubuntu system.
[23:20] <pie_time>  The error message they gave when my system tryed to auto mount them was, eg, "Unable to mount 2.0 GB Filesystem", "Unauthorized". I've been able to mount them using fsck but still have the problem with the LUKS install.
[23:20] <IdleOne> !controls | mcl0vin
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> WinstonSmith: true but thats usually people whom chose creative soundcards ;)
[23:20] <crucialhoax> I installed the Faenza icons and the install script fails: my main menu no longer has an icon :/
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> tripelb: sure, if its a G3 mac or similar (non-intel) grab the PPC ISO, you can create a bootable USB usng that instead of the i386 / 64bit one
[23:22] <IdleOne> ActionParsnip: on PPC holding down the C key will boot from CD (protip)
[23:22] <veryhappy> AT ALL: i think i found the problem: * Setting sensors limits [ OK ]
[23:22] <veryhappy> and then the system hangs!
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> IdleOne: good to know, although I avoid apple products like paris hilton avoids talent
[23:22] <WinstonSmith> ActionParsnip, lololololo
[23:22] <pie_time> :(
[23:23] <IdleOne> ha. I first ran ubuntu on PPC so I learned that little trick
[23:23] <mcl0vin> what is Open CCSM.
[23:23] <mcl0vin> !CCSM
[23:23] <WinstonSmith> ActionParsnip, i also dont like this kind of closed system
[23:23] <MrJones> hi
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> mcl0vin: its the app to configure compiz stuffs, the command is: ccsm
[23:23] <pie_time> !hi > MrJones
[23:23] <MrJones> I'm on 8.04 lts and installed python-openssl and python-pyopenssl and still 'python -c "import ssl"' gives me ImportError: No module named ssl - what am I doing wrong?
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> WinstonSmith: its not that, its just double priced hardware too, and ipods with very little functionality. I fail to see the appeal except its shiny...
[23:24] <WinstonSmith> MrJones, maybe  python-pyopenssl-dev and python-openssl-dev?
[23:24] <nicoulaj> Anyone knows how to request package publication to Ubuntu offical repos ? (everything is ready in a PPA)
[23:24] <pie_time> why can no one help me?
[23:24] <MrJones> WinstonSmith: there are no such packages to be found here
[23:24] <crucialhoax> This script does not install the icon theme http://pastebin.com/YtPBuTkj
[23:25] <erUSUL> nicoulaj: ask in #ubuntu-motu or #ubuntu-packaging
[23:25] <buntunub> MrJones it sounds like your trying to import a file named ssl
[23:25] <veryhappy> howto deactivate * setting sensors limits? on live cd boot???
[23:25] <crucialhoax> Any suggestions?
[23:25] <MrJones> buntunub: I am trying to import the ssl namespace, as usually done in python
[23:25] <nicoulaj> erUSUL: Thank you !
[23:25] <WinstonSmith> ActionParsnip, i have a really old ipod (3g) and i have to admit the hardware is high quality - but i dont like the apple way - there is only their way, really expensive
[23:25] <erUSUL> nicoulaj: no problem
[23:25] <mcl0vin> but my remix doesn't have ccsm
[23:25] <buntunub> MrJones: try using the filename to import
[23:25] <MrJones> buntunub: filename?
[23:26] <MrJones> I want to access the system's installed openssl python binding
[23:26] <buntunub> mrq
[23:26] <erUSUL> WinstonSmith: free it with rockbox
[23:26] <erUSUL> !ipod | WinstonSmith
[23:26] <greezmunkey> pie_time: patience my friend, there is just no one here that has delt with this. You may be best served to hang out a while, or re-post your question later.
[23:26] <WinstonSmith> ActionParsnip, but you can install linux on that ipod :P
[23:26] <MrJones> therefore I'm using "import ssl" to import the library's namesapce
[23:26] <buntunub> MrJones: ike import.ssl
[23:26] <erUSUL> !rockbox | WinstonSmith
[23:26] <MrJones> buntunub: are you sure that's valid python?
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> WinstonSmith: i would, gives it a whole slew of extra umf :)
[23:26] <buntunub> MrJones: no its just an example
[23:26] <MrJones> buntunub: whatever you're aiming for, it gives an invalid syntax
[23:26] <MrJones> example for what?
[23:26] <buntunub> MrJones: yea
[23:27] <MrJones> my problem is, openssl for python is installed, yet "import ssl" fails
[23:27] <WinstonSmith> erUSUL,  thats what i said
[23:27] <MrJones> so what's wrong? :(
[23:27] <SupraMKIII> ActionParsnip: Solution 3 didn't work, and I don't think Solutions one or two apply to my problem.
[23:27] <MrJones> normally this should work if the system python had ssl installed
[23:27] <buntunub> MrJones: its seeing nothing but ssl as the filename so its giving the error
[23:27] <MrJones> you noticed the -c, did you
[23:27] <MrJones> which executes commands on the python command line
[23:27] <sebsebseb> Hi
[23:28] <WinstonSmith> ActionParsnip, erUSUL i had that when it came out... was really buggy that time mp3 support barely realtime... but also was about  5 years ago
[23:28] <Zirts> Can anyone suggest a good C++ compiler for lucid lynx?
[23:28] <MrJones> buntunub: python -c "print 'hello world'"
[23:28] <erUSUL> Zirts: g++
[23:28] <Zirts> thank you
[23:28] <erUSUL> Zirts: install build-essential
[23:28] <buntunub> MrJones: yea not sure its complaining at me too when i do that
[23:28] <ActionParsnip> Zirts: install build-essential  and you will get an ANSI standard C++ and C compiler
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> !ide | Zirts
[23:29] <Zirts> okay
[23:29] <Zirts> thanks all
[23:30] <acerimmer> ActionParsnip: LEAVE PARIS ALONE!  *sniff*
[23:31] <rhebi> is there a fix to get gnome to install on 10.4 lts?
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> acerimmer: hahahaha
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> rhebi: install the desktop iso and you will get gnome
[23:31] <tripelb> I have a friend with an older Mac and it won't boot. Can I make an Ubuntu liveCd and boot it from that, like I can for a Windows system?
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> tripelb: yes
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> tripelb: use the same usb creation method but use the ppc ISO
[23:32] <rhebi> ActionParsnip, so the desktop iso has the swfdec/epiphany dependancy fixed?
[23:32] <acerimmer> tripelb: depends how old the mac is - PPC or not
[23:32] <tripelb> ah, good. Can I do it from a USB drive?
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> rhebi: no idea, i use neither
[23:32] <rhebi> ActionParsnip, is there  a way I can just grab a few fixed packages?
[23:32] <extraclassic> I was having trouble with my desktop icons not being aligned even though I set it to do so....has anyone experienced that and heard of a patch or something
[23:32] <rhebi> ActionParsnip, gnome is uninstallable in 10.4 due to dependancy probs
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> tripelb: should be able to, you'll have to check for the device
[23:32] <extraclassic> here's a screenshot - http://content.screencast.com/users/j_barnett/folders/Default/media/eb672b79-1028-49bb-ac4b-476684d92cd5/gnome.png
[23:33] <tripelb> OK acerimmer. ActionParsnip I will find out his mac version first.  Thanks. I didnt want to blow smoke at him.
[23:33] <kaiser> hi, guys!
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> rhebi: its the default desktop in ubuntu
[23:33] <tripelb> and promise the moon.
[23:33] <rhebi> ActionParsnip, but it doesn't install on upgrade
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> rhebi: so its very installable
[23:33] <Guest65925> anyone participating to a google global jam, right now?
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> rhebi: how do you mean?
[23:33] <Guest65925> sorry, ubuntu global jam
[23:33] <imanc> is there another linux distro that is comparable to ubuntu as a desktop/laptop oriented distro?
[23:34] <ActionParsnip> imanc: suse, mandriva, fedora
[23:34] <rhebi> ActionParsnip,  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/meta-gnome2/+bug/542404
[23:34] <SupraMKIII> Cna anyone help me out with this blank book screen?
[23:34] <nakhlawi> imanc: I think gentoo qualifies for that
[23:34] <ActionParsnip> imanc: check the distrowatch site, lots of distros there
[23:34] <imanc> nakhlawi: i thought gentoo was pretty sparse and needed loasd of config
[23:34] <imanc> ActionParsnip: cheers - looking now.
[23:35] <nakhlawi> imanc: I am not sure about that, I use ubuntu
[23:35] <Guest65925> hey, guys
[23:35] <Guest65925> i made a plugin for gedit
[23:35] <imanc> Guest65925: good work
[23:35] <Guest65925> i want to share it with you
[23:35] <Guest65925> i've just learned how to create a debian package
[23:36] <ActionParsnip> rhebi: never seen that as I install the dektop iso which comes with gnome, or for minimal I install ubuntu-minimal then install lxde :)
[23:36] <rhebi> lxde?
[23:38] <SupraMKIII> Is there any way that I can disable my hardware drivers from a liveCD?
[23:38] <aliskul> hyeee
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> SupraMKIII: do you mean modify an installed system?
[23:38] <Tempus_Fugit> Hey does ubuntu have any type of system cleaner that goes thru and cleans out junk files and maybe a defrag or does the OS work completely different
[23:38] <SupraMKIII> yessir
[23:39] <Tempus_Fugit> I realize that may be a dumb ? but hey we all gotta learn somehow
[23:39] <zkriesse> Tempus_Fugit: System cleanup
[23:39] <zkriesse> !system clean
[23:40] <kimb> where can find a capi driver
[23:40] <extraclassic> Tempus_Fugit: Ailurus
[23:40] <bastid_raZor> Tempus_Fugit: System > Administration > Computer Janitor
[23:40] <ActionParsnip> SupraMKIII: you can either chroot and remove the driver, or modify the files in etc/modprobe.d to blacklist the module
[23:40] <Tempus_Fugit> zkriesse: is that an apt-get type thing or already installed in the default package??
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> SupraMKIII: you can mount the internal partitions from the live CD and do both
[23:41] <zkriesse> Tempus_Fugit: Ah should be under System -> Admistration -> System Cleanup
[23:42] <lagunabatata> capi
[23:42] <SupraMKIII> ActionParsnip: How would I go about doing the first of the two?
[23:42] <lagunabatata> i don't know what is it
[23:42] <Tempus_Fugit> zkriesse: hmm not installed on my system
[23:42] <zkriesse> Grr
[23:42] <zkriesse> It should be there
[23:43] <lagunabatata> does anyone can help me
[23:43] <bastid_raZor> Tempus_Fugit: are you ignoring my suggestion?
[23:43] <irule> I upgraded a morons defora 4, you read that right, ancient with ubuntu server, and his php software is for php4 and mysql4, what are my alternatives to let him have that on a modern ubuntu? thanks
[23:43] <extraclassic> Tempus_Fugit: System -> Administration -> Computer Janitor or just get Ailurus
[23:44] <veryhappy> UBUNTU 10.04.1 is also still very buggy!
[23:44] <k-rad> i have an apple keyboard that is wired and i have to toggle a awkward "fn" key combined with a function key up top, by default the function keys control multimedia and display, i was wanting to set it the other way around
[23:44] <irule> that is fedora 4 to ubuntu server squeeze/sid
[23:44] <Tempus_Fugit> bastid_raZor: not ignoring it ...didnt see it ...I was looking to see if it was installed sorry
[23:44] <SupraMKIII> Oh wow... I go in /etc/modprobe.d, and there's an nvidia-graphics-drivers.conf link that says it doesn't exist.
[23:44] <bastid_raZor> Tempus_Fugit: it is by default on Ubuntu 10.04.
[23:46] <Tempus_Fugit> bastid_raZor: well computer janitor is in my system but that just gets rid of old packages and such doesnt say anything bout cleaning up cache files or invalid registry items
[23:47] <bastid_raZor> Tempus_Fugit: are you confusing Ubuntu with Windows?   what cached files or registry items?
[23:47] <nakhlawi> Tempus_Fugit: I suggest you search for the oldest files in our computer and delete them.
[23:47] <extraclassic> Tempus_Fugit: download 10.07 deb file here - http://code.google.com/p/ailurus/downloads/list
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> !chroot | SupraMKIII
[23:47] <Tempus_Fugit> ok looking
[23:47] <Tempus_Fugit> ty
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> SupraMKIII: if you want to blacklist then you can make a .conf file in the folder (easier than chrooting). You can mount from places menu then run: gksudo nautilus /media    to get write access
[23:48] <cast> a chroot isn't very good at stopping programs accessing files outside of the chroot
[23:49] <SupraMKIII> okay so what do I put in the .conf?
[23:49] <WinstonSmith> ActionParsnip, erUSUL well rockbox DEFINITELY has advanced since then ! thx for reminding me . goodby apple ( wink wink )
[23:50] <Magnetro> Could someone offer me some assistance with my hardy unbuntu(linux)
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> SupraMKIII: something like:   blacklist nvidia    save the file then the module will NOT be loaded as the file blocks it
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> WinstonSmith: try it, you can always roll it out
[23:50] <Paolone> Hello
[23:50] <DasEi> Magnetro: next to the question why still hardy, yes
[23:50] <WinstonSmith> !ask | magnet
[23:50] <Magnetro> I'm so inticed by this OS; but to ensure I'll never go back to windows
[23:50] <WinstonSmith> !ask | magneto
[23:50] <Magnetro> I need to figure out how to do only a simple things; PM please.
[23:50] <SupraMKIII> so just make a text file, put "blacklist nvidia" then save it as "blacklist-nvidia.conf"?
[23:50] <magnet> !tabcompletion ! WinstonSmith
[23:51] <WinstonSmith> magnet i know typo :(
[23:51] <magnet> :)
[23:51] <Paolone> i've many files.... from 0001.htm to 1700.html
[23:51] <DasEi> Magnetro: what's the issue ?
[23:51] <Paolone> I'd like to copy the text into a txt file
[23:52] <Magnetro> unzipping actually.
[23:52] <DasEi> !who | magnetro
[23:52] <DasEi>  magnetro : kinda file ?
[23:52] <Magnetro> DasEi: ;p;.
[23:52] <Paolone> can you help me?
[23:52] <Magnetro> Can I explain in PM?
[23:53] <DasEi> Magnwtro: stay here
[23:53] <Tempus_Fugit> I also found a cleaner in the Ubuntu Tweak tool
[23:53] <Magnetro> okay, give me a second to type it DesEi:
[23:54] <extraclassic> Tempus_Fugit: i think they're both similar, Ailurus works on other distros too though
[23:54] <DasEi> Tempus_Fugit: looking for a system-cleaner ?
[23:54] <John> hello there.  I am looking for someone who can help me with mounting windows vista shares with cifs  (they are very slow for some reason)
[23:54] <frxstrem> is there a program I can use in command line to ignore data from STDIN until it reaches a double newline, and then pass the rest through STDOUT to another program?
[23:55] <frxstrem> the reason for this is that I need to remove the headers from a HTTP response from netcat
[23:55] <Magnetro> Okay for instance, I downloaded  Utra Nes from the easy made gnome add/remove programs; and when I download the games (that are already compressed) I just drag and drop it into the ROM Filename
[23:55] <John> Paolone: a re you trying to put all the files in to one big file?
[23:55] <John> Paolone: are*
[23:56] <DasEi> Magnetro : what endings do the file have ? deb, rar, tar..
[23:57] <^james_foo^> frxstrem: you could use 'awk' with an invocation i won't work out at the moment
[23:57] <Phr3ak_> hi
[23:57] <frxstrem> ^james_foo^: well, I figured I could use `wget` instead of netcat for HTTP requests :S stupid me
[23:57] <utekov> hola
[23:57] <Magnetro> I'm trying to install mame; xmame-0.103.tar.bz2
[23:57] <Phr3ak_> any one in to wordpress ?
[23:58] <nakhlawi> Phr3ak_: Ask
[23:58] <Phr3ak_> well, iam busy with wordpress and bbpress ..
[23:58] <Phr3ak_> tweaked a bbpress theme a bit, so it suits the ubuntu colors
[23:58] <aliskul> hyeee
[23:58] <DasEi> Magnetro : xmame is in the repos, so you want to compile software, see :
[23:58] <aliskul> iam new here
[23:58] <DasEi> !compile
[23:59] <DasEi> Magnetro:is there a certain reason for you still using hardy ?
[23:59] <nakhlawi> Phr3ak_: I thought you meant wordpress.com. I can't help you with bbpress, sorry.
[23:59] <Phr3ak_> no, not wordpress.com
[23:59] <Magnetro> When I attempted to download it from repos these is what came up DasEi ()
[23:59] <Magnetro> and yes there is