[00:01] <holstein> prep: that PPA didnt do it?
[00:03] <holstein> prep: do you have those 2 lines added?
[00:03] <holstein> you should run
[00:04] <holstein> sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 051D8B58
[00:04] <holstein> then sudo apt-get update
[00:04] <holstein> then sudo apt-get install buzztard
[00:04] <holstein> ASSUMING
[00:05] <holstein> you added both ...
[00:05] <holstein> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/gstreamer-developers/ppa/ubuntu lucid main
[00:05] <holstein> deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/gstreamer-developers/ppa/ubuntu lucid main
[00:05] <holstein> to your sources
[00:11] <holstein> looks like a good how-to here though
[00:11] <holstein> http://www.buzztard.org/index.php/Building#Ubuntu
[00:11] <holstein> if for some reason that doesnt work out
[00:11]  * holstein gotta run again...
[02:43] <prep> I did that, it added the key, then nothing.
[02:45] <prep> says it's still locked.
[03:54] <holstein> prep: hmmm
[03:54] <holstein> can you pastebin me the error sometime?
[14:39] <prep> Holstein, you on?
[17:59] <Davidmp> Hey what gdm is this? http://ubuntustudio.org/files/US3.png
[17:59] <holstein> hey Davidmp
[17:59]  * holstein looking
[18:00] <holstein> AFAIK
[18:00] <holstein> thats just the ubuntu studio themeing
[18:00] <holstein> applied to the gnome login
[18:00] <Davidmp> ok
[18:00] <Davidmp> do i need to run a terminal command to get it?
[18:01] <holstein> i think there is a newer one now
[18:01] <holstein> with plymouth??
[18:01] <holstein> whatever the recent changes were
[18:01] <Davidmp> oh
[18:01] <Davidmp> newer :/
[18:01] <Davidmp> looked better lol
[18:01] <holstein> Davidmp: there are 2 splash screen packages for ubuntustudio
[18:02] <holstein> in the repos
[18:02] <holstein> and one of them doesnt work anymore
[18:02] <holstein> and i think thats the one
[18:02] <Davidmp> ah ok
[18:02] <holstein> im sure there is a way though
[18:02] <Davidmp> i can dig out another ubuntu studio gdm i guess
[18:02] <holstein> you could downgrade a bunch of stuff
[18:02] <holstein> but i wouldnt do that
[18:03] <Davidmp> yeah
[18:03] <holstein> Davidmp: the themeing is really nice :)
[18:03] <holstein> and yeah, that was slick
[18:03] <Davidmp> yeah i love ubuntu studio one of the best distros
[18:03] <Davidmp> softwares is the best
[18:04] <Davidmp> i have one more question why does my mouse keep moving on its own?
[18:04] <holstein> hmmm
[18:04] <holstein> that aint good
[18:05] <holstein> i got a friend with an old thinkpad
[18:05] <holstein> and the little stick in the middle of the keyboard is dying
[18:05] <holstein> so he has to disable the hardware in the bios
[18:05] <holstein> and use an external mouse
[18:05] <holstein> Davidmp: sounds like hardware
[18:05] <Davidmp> mm odd
[18:05] <holstein> is it a touchpad?
[18:05] <Davidmp> yes
[18:06] <Davidmp> i have a external mouse to
[18:06] <holstein> Davidmp: are you dual booting anything?
[18:06] <Davidmp> i use it for zooming etc.
[18:06] <Davidmp> yes windows and ubuntu studio
[18:06] <holstein> is it funky in windows?
[18:06] <Davidmp> no
[18:06] <holstein> hmmm
[18:06] <holstein> Davidmp: i would try and isolate the problem
[18:06] <holstein> to either the touchpad
[18:06] <holstein> or the external mouse
[18:06] <holstein> and start poking around about the drivers
[18:07] <holstein> cause that aint right
[18:07] <Davidmp> it seems to go to links which is really annoying
[18:07] <holstein> you get more options
[18:07] <holstein> like 2 and 3 finger taps
[18:07] <holstein> and the middle mouse
[18:07] <holstein> button
[18:07] <Davidmp> yeah
[18:07] <holstein> usually takes some tweaking
[18:08] <holstein> or time to get used to it
[18:08] <Davidmp> how do i disable the thinkpad? O.o
[18:08] <holstein> i miss all that now
[18:08] <Davidmp> o
[18:08] <holstein> when im in front of windows or OSX
[18:08] <holstein> anyways
[18:08] <holstein> Davidmp: so you unpluf the external mouse
[18:08] <holstein> and it still does it?
[18:08] <Davidmp> yes
[18:09] <holstein> well, thats enough then
[18:09] <holstein> i would run lspci
[18:09] <Davidmp> thinkpad's shot?
[18:09] <holstein> i would think if the pad was bad
[18:09] <holstein> it would do that in windows too
[18:09] <Davidmp> hm
[18:10] <Davidmp> do you think it might have something to do with compiz?
[18:10] <holstein> could
[18:10] <holstein> you can turn that off easy enough
[18:10] <holstein> and tesxt
[18:10] <holstein> test*
[18:10] <holstein> but i bet you need to blacklist a module or enable a backport
[18:10] <holstein> or both
[18:10] <holstein> thats one of those fiddly things
[18:11] <holstein> i got the same kind of thing going on
[18:11] <holstein> i got an older desktop
[18:11] <Davidmp> yeahh it still does it..
[18:11] <Davidmp> :/
[18:11] <holstein> im making a media center PC out of it
[18:11] <Davidmp> lol nice
[18:11] <holstein> and the sound card is not recognized
[18:11] <holstein> im going to spend about 20 minutes on it
[18:12] <Davidmp> :p
[18:12] <holstein> then im just going to disable it in the bios and get another card from my stack of spard parts :)
[18:12] <Davidmp> :p
[18:12] <Davidmp> sounds fun
[18:12] <Davidmp> lol
[18:12] <holstein> thats the thing with linux
[18:12] <holstein> you can do anything with it you want
[18:13] <Davidmp> yep
[18:13] <holstein> but figuring out how to do it can be challenging
[18:13] <Davidmp> its worth it
[18:14] <holstein> if i was installing windows on it
[18:14] <holstein> i bet i could find all the drivers i need
[18:14] <holstein> maybe
[18:14] <holstein> but they totally wouldnt be 'in the kernel'
[18:14] <holstein> i mean, *usually* these days, everything is out-of-the-box
[18:15] <holstein> i just got some funky old hardware
[18:15] <Davidmp> yea
[18:17] <Davidmp> so hard to choose usplash -.-
[18:17] <holstein> just remember how long you actually spend looking at it ;)
[18:18] <Davidmp> lol
[18:27] <holstein> hey
[18:27] <holstein> that was easy
[18:28] <holstein> for some reason the mute button was on after install :)
[18:28] <holstein> too easy
[22:31] <maheanuu> Iaorana Ia Oe,  paradise is a frame of mind
[22:32] <maheanuu> As usual, this noobs got a question
[22:35] <holstein> maheanuu: whats up?
[22:36] <maheanuu> I would very much like to be able to run "Studio" and have wifi enabled as my ethernet run is next to impossible to do, and I would also like to disable it if I am working in Sound.
[22:36] <maheanuu> Hi mike, and thanks for the last help you provided I really appreciate your taking the time with me
[22:37] <holstein> :)
[22:37] <holstein> maheanuu: i wouldnt worry about it
[22:37] <holstein> if you got a prettty serious box
[22:37] <holstein> the network manager will probably be cool running along with JACK
[22:37] <holstein> especially if you have the network disabled while your tracking
[22:38] <maheanuu> I believe in thanking those who help
[22:38] <holstein> maheanuu: did you install the gnome network applet?
[22:38] <maheanuu> I cannot find network manager
[22:38] <holstein> to get your wireless working?
[22:38] <holstein> maheanuu: well, you should know
[22:38] <holstein> there is a reason why its not included
[22:38] <holstein> but you can install it easy enough
[22:38] <holstein> if your online
[22:38] <maheanuu> No I think that I am TSTO these days
[22:39] <holstein> youcan search for nm-applet ??
[22:39]  * holstein checking on that
[22:39] <maheanuu> Yes and is saw that it interferes with the sound studio, but I want to disable that if I am using sound
[22:41] <holstein> i think you'll find all the packages you need in network-manager-gnome
[22:42] <holstein> maheanuu: its rather unlikely that it will interfere
[22:42] <holstein> on a modern box
[22:42] <holstein> whats wrong with your current set-up maheanuu ?
[22:42] <holstein> if your able to get online and all
[22:43] <maheanuu> it tells me that it is already running
[22:43] <holstein> nm-applet?
[22:43] <holstein> maheanuu: its probably up there near the time
[22:43] <maheanuu> yes
[22:43] <holstein> maheanuu: was this an upgrade?
[22:43] <holstein> from vanilla?
[22:44] <holstein> or maybe you added that package
[22:44] <holstein> either way
[22:44] <maheanuu> only thing there is the pulse audio applett
[22:44] <holstein> i wouldnt worry about it
[22:44] <holstein> hmmm
[22:44] <holstein> maheanuu: what disc did you use to install?
[22:44] <maheanuu> Yes, I was running 10.04 and changed to Studio 10.04
[22:45] <maheanuu> The 64 bit one
[22:45] <holstein> well, i dont know where your applet went
[22:45] <maheanuu> heh
[22:45] <maheanuu> me either
[22:45] <holstein> i think its attached to some other stuff now
[22:45] <holstein> in lucid
[22:46] <maheanuu> I am a rather old and in the way user, but trying like the devil to gain some knowledge and pass it on to people on this island so that they get a little further into the stream
[22:47] <holstein> right on
[22:47] <holstein> did you install all the themeing too?
[22:47] <maheanuu> I have a half dozen professors from the Lycee here who are very interested in forming a lug and teaching the kids/adults linux  including themselves...  we are just getting ready for our first meeting
[22:47] <holstein> that applet is running somewhere
[22:47] <holstein> if you running nm-applet
[22:47] <holstein> and its says its running
[22:47] <holstein> its somewhere
[22:48] <holstein> maheanuu: NICE
[22:48] <holstein> i just sent an email out to my local LUG list :)
[22:48] <maheanuu> is there any way to find out where it is running
[22:48] <maheanuu> where are you mike
[22:48] <maheanuu> I think i asked you the other day but apparently forgot
[22:49] <holstein> ashveille north carolina US
[22:49] <holstein> maheanuu: some panel should be displaying it
[22:49] <maheanuu> I saw some of your posts in the forums...   Thats rite...   I cant remember my name thiese days
[22:50] <maheanuu> Is there a command to see where it might be running or to see what it is associated with?
[22:51] <holstein> well, its associated with network manager
[22:51] <holstein> and its just always been there :/
[22:53] <holstein> maheanuu: laptop right?
[22:53] <holstein> is the batter icon up there?
[22:54] <holstein> battery*
[22:54] <maheanuu> Ok, I will look in networking and networks and see if I can find it in there...  If it is running, then it should be able to see my wifi router shouldn't it?
[22:54] <maheanuu> No, there is no battery icon anywhere
[22:56] <holstein> maheanuu: OK
[22:56] <holstein> right click on the panel
[22:56] <holstein> and select 'add to panel'
[22:56] <holstein> find 'notification area'
[22:56] <holstein> and add it
[22:58] <maheanuu> I click on add and nothing is happening or at least it isn't accepting the "add"
[22:59] <holstein> try adding something else and make sure
[22:59] <holstein> its probably up there
[22:59] <holstein> you might want to log out and back in
[22:59] <holstein> i see a bug report about it
[22:59] <holstein> and several different soloutiongs
[22:59] <holstein> solotions*
[23:00] <holstein> based on other variables
[23:00] <maheanuu> Log out of Ubuntu then back in?
[23:01] <holstein> yup
[23:01] <maheanuu> I tried to select several others and nothing happens
[23:01] <maheanuu> Ok bbiab
[23:01] <holstein> maheanuu:
[23:01] <holstein> hey
[23:01] <maheanuu> Yes
[23:01] <holstein> did you do something funky to your panels?
[23:01] <holstein> gnome is expecting a panel
[23:01] <holstein> to put those in
[23:01] <maheanuu> No not to my knowledge, but that doesn't mean much
[23:02] <holstein> hmmm
[23:02] <holstein> maheanuu: well, try that logout
[23:02] <maheanuu> 'K
[23:18] <holstein> hmmm
[23:18] <holstein> that aint good :/