[00:17] <Ichat> hi,  is there any information on when  or iff  thunar 1.1 will be add to  xubuntu 10.4 updates (or proposed) ...
[00:18] <charlie-tca> thunar 1.1 is not stable, it is still in development. It isn't even in maverick yet
[00:19] <charlie-tca> When it gets into the latest version, we can look at backporting it.
[00:23] <Ichat> well i thought  10.4 being an LTS and all i figured at least a mayor upgrade to the file manager  would have some priority?    so when said that it would be backported it is something that i dont understand..  i mean like a major (remote file system added to thunar) is a bigg deal. and 10.4 a big release.   not that i wouldn't  do the work of installing it from a dev ppa (or whatever way i...
[00:23] <Ichat> ...can get my hands on).   i just wondered thats all
[00:24] <Ichat> for now i installed it today after a really helpfull tip :P ubuntu rocks for getting tips.....   i dont have any problems (finaly :D)
[01:16] <Merritt> Having a strange problem. Just got a new KVM, it is hooked up to a Ubuntu machine, and a Xubuntu machine. Manual states switching hotkey is Scroll Lock + Scroll Lock, but this does not work - googling reveals this to be a common problem with Unixes and this KVM, however many say Num Lock + Num Lock works, it works to switch from Ubuntu TO Xubuntu, however nothing so far will work to switch the other way. Any one have any insight?
[01:58] <ds928> Hello, I have a quick question, how do you change the login screen for 10.04 ?
[01:58] <ds928> lucid lynx
[01:59] <ds928> i want to customize the login screen
[02:06] <monttyle> New xubuntu install.  After some updates, the broadcom-sta driver at least loaded.  But now, wifi-radar just shows "aquiring ip address" forever, and iwconfig doesn't even say it's associated.
[02:07] <ds928> why are you using sta?
[02:07] <ds928> what network card do you have?
[02:08] <monttyle> I'm using STA because I've got a broadcom card, and the open-source drivers have never worked for any hardware I've ever owned, at all, ever.  It's a BCM4322.
[02:09] <ds928> really, i'm using B43, i've had the reverse experience with sta
[02:09] <ds928> sta has never worked or worked really badly
[02:09] <ds928> i've found B43 to work really well
[02:10] <ds928> i'm using an inspiron E1505 (DELL)
[02:10] <psycho_oreos> monttyle, the open drivers aren't available for that chipset because broadcom is an ignorant company
[02:10] <ds928> ya, uses fwcutter
[02:10] <monttyle> I'm no friend of theirs, believe me, but the broadcom driver in my experience *has* *worked*.
[02:11] <ds928> some laptops will actually have a function key or switch to turn off your wireless card
[02:11] <ds928> are you sure the wireless card is on?
[02:11] <monttyle> and the only cards supported by b43 pretty much aren't manufactured any more, I think.  Yep, it does, and it's not.
[02:12] <monttyle> What makes me scratch my head is why wifi radar is trying to get DHCP when it's not even associated.
[02:12] <psycho_oreos> umm no, b43 supports bcm4315 which is still manufactured
[02:12] <monttyle> I stand corrected then.
[02:12] <ds928> b43 supports bcm43xx
[02:12] <psycho_oreos> that's untrue
[02:12] <monttyle> nope.
[02:13] <monttyle> none of the N chipsets are supported.
[02:13] <monttyle> I'm not here to argue the technicalities though.  I'm just here to get wifi working.
[02:13] <psycho_oreos> b43 only supports a little more than a handful of broadcom chipsets, it doesn't support broadcom usb (rndis_wlan handles that) more information can be acquired here: http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43
[02:14] <psycho_oreos> you should probably email broadcom for support :) afterall you're using their proprietary driver
[02:16] <ds928> man, you really can't change the login screen in 10.04 ?
[02:16] <ds928> i see it logged as an idea, why'd they remove that?
[02:16] <ds928> slim and gdm themes doesn't work.
[02:18] <monttyle> okay, so 'iwscan list' even returns invalid argument.  When that happens broadcom's usually been broken by a kernel upgrade...
[02:22] <monttyle> ...okay, what the hell.  xubuntu can't even turn the machine off.
[02:45] <KE1HA> Just FYI, I had the same issue, BCM4312 in my HP-2133 netbook. Tried the B43XX, no joy, selected STA, which specifically called out the 4312 Card, fired right up, added my WPA info, and it connected.STA
[02:55] <psycho_oreos> you meant bcm4315 (bcm4312 lp-phy) and you need b43 (which comes as per standard in linux kernel as of 2.6.26). For it to work you need the proprietary firmware to be extracted into the right place and be using at the very least 10.04 (use linux-backports would be beneficial as well).. and possibly you need some kernel hacks such as enabling PIO mode
[02:59] <psycho_oreos> alas this isn't the fault of b43 its the broadcom's fault.. had they decided to play nice with the linux community, none of you broadcrap owners have to suffer but no they decided to be blatantly ignorant despite the various projects which were targeting against them. What made it worse was users's stubborn-ness.. once you have broadcrap chipset which is unsupported under linux most of you wouldn't even bother switching/selling so instead you're support
[02:59] <psycho_oreos> ing broadcom and its ignorant decisions in hindsight
[12:32] <kangarooo> whats the name of xubuntu login promt window?
[12:34] <kangarooo> i hav bug in it
[12:34] <Sysi> gdm?
[12:34] <kangarooo> xfce
[12:35] <kangarooo> for xubuntu whitch comes asking witvch user i want to log in
[12:35] <kangarooo> its called gdm ? so i ubuntu-bug gdm?
[12:35] <Sysi> login window used in xubuntu is gdm
[12:35] <Sysi> !gdm
[12:36] <kangarooo> aah ok then im reporting bug for gdm
[12:36] <Sysi> ubottu, you sometimes just suck
[12:36] <kangarooo> ah is bug 235 info ubotu posting working again>?
[12:36] <kangarooo> good
[14:54] <drbatman> hola
[14:55] <drbatman> hay españoles en el canal?
[14:55] <Sysi> !es
[16:01] <zerothis> so, I fix all my opengl problems by running the latest meekrat kernel. no I can't see my X cursor. any game or app with its own cursor works. I currently have neko chasing my invisible cursor. this is not very accurate however.
[16:02] <zerothis> I'm running karmic
[16:03] <bazhang> zerothis, thats not supported
[16:04] <Sysi> karmic EOL isn't yet afaik?
[16:04] <charlie-tca> no
[16:04] <charlie-tca> Karmic is eol 11.04
[16:04] <bazhang> meerkat and karmic is not supported like that
[16:05] <bazhang> 10.10 kernel in karmic
[16:05] <charlie-tca> 9.10 with the merkat kernel is probably an issue by itself
[16:05] <charlie-tca> bazhang is correct.
[16:05] <zerothis> charlie: it was one of the suggestions to fix opengl problems when using an intel 855G card
[16:06] <zerothis> its in the ubuntu documentation
[16:06] <bazhang> got a link?
[16:07] <charlie-tca> Have you tried changing the themes or cursor?
[16:07] <charlie-tca> Sometimes the theme makes a difference.
[16:08] <zerothis> changed themes, changed cursors, individually installed and tried every karmic package that does anything to cursors. I can only assume they work and the different cursors are all invisible
[16:09] <zerothis> its there because xeyes and oneko and such all follow it
[16:10] <Sysi> have you thought updating to 10.04?
[16:16] <zerothis> sysi: yes, I've considered it. if I can't get a reasonable cursor I'll image my drive and install meekrat, gut the daily iso all ready to burn
[16:16] <Sysi> (*meerkat)
[16:18] <zerothis> sysi: yes, I'm trying not to trigger bots to scold me about #ubuntu+1
[16:18] <bazhang> we're not bots.
[16:19] <bazhang> I only noticed because you crossposted.
[16:19] <Sysi> i have 2.6.35 kernel working nicely on two lucid machines
[16:27] <zerothis> sysi: oh, update to _10.04_, no. 10.04 won't install or boot, because of my 855 card it seems.
[16:28] <Sysi> oh, "great"
[16:28] <Sysi> IMO keeping 2.6.32 kernel is a bit stupid
[16:32] <zerothis> stranger still, through VNC I can see my cursor, including the fancy theme cursors
[16:35] <zerothis> sysi: what's wrong with .32 ?
[16:36] <Sysi> intel drivers :D
[16:36] <zerothis> ah, well in that case I'll have to agree with you
[17:20] <twig> is any one familiar with large samba file transfers having issues?