[01:21] <BUGabundo> kklimonda: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHnP5zWTWqc&feature=player_embedded#at=88
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[02:03] <DanaG> [13482.860894] BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at 0000000000000030
[02:03] <DanaG> [13482.867933] IP: [<ffffffffa00b7386>] btrfs_print_leaf+0x26/0x4f0 [btrfs]
[02:08] <BUGabundo> YAY for good drivers
[02:36] <maurer_> DanaG: More likely to get useful stuff for that upsteream....
[02:36] <maurer_> *upstream
[04:45] <DanaG> ARGH... stupid ffmpeg keeps segfaulting.
[04:48] <FFForever> how can I install from a thumb drive?
[04:51] <ZykoticK9> FFForever, careful (not sure if it's still applies) but there was a bug with Maverick USB drives created in Lucid.... sorry I don't know the bug # (nor did i experience the issue - i've just seen it come up in the channel a couple of times)
[04:52] <FFForever> what is the best way to create one though from the iso?
[05:18] <FFForever> ZykoticK9, would the error happen to be something that causes a segmentation fault?
[05:18] <ZykoticK9> FFForever, sorry not sure
[05:19] <ZykoticK9> FFForever, i believe it was some sort of failed to boot / initramfs or something... but i'm REALLY not sure of the details
[05:20] <Some_Person> Is there any way to install without burning/booting to the CD/ISO?
[05:51] <Jordan_U> Some_Person: Yes, there are a few different ways. The one I prefer is setting up grub to boot the iso file from the hard drive.
[05:53] <Jordan_U> FFForever: If unetbootin isn't working for you then using grub2 to boot from an iso file may be a solution for you as well.
[05:57] <Jordan_U> DanaG: I don't think fat16 supports case sensitive label names (nor label names longer than 11 characters) so it's not really the fault of mtools. What are you doing when ffmpeg segfaults, or is it segfaulting with most operations?
[05:57] <Some_Person> Jordan_U: But I'm using GRUB legacy
[06:00] <DanaG> It's segfaulting on transcoding.
[06:00] <DanaG> Oh, and with Windows, or with gparted (upon "create partition" only), I can make a lowercase label.
[06:02] <Some_Person> Jordan_U: Is there any other way?
[06:05] <Jordan_U> !install | Some_Person
[06:05] <Some_Person> Yeah, already seen that, but unfortunately I didn't really see anything that would work for me
[06:06] <Some_Person> Maybe I should just buy some damn discs
[06:06] <Some_Person> or a new flash drive
[06:06] <Some_Person> or both
[06:06] <Jordan_U> Some_Person: You can use grub legacy to boot from an iso file, but you need to manually extract the kernel/initrd first.
[06:07] <Some_Person> Jordan_U: How does that work?
[06:09] <Jordan_U> Some_Person: You loop mount the iso file (or open it in archive manager) and copy the kernel and initrd to an area that grub can read from, then you setup your menu.lst to load the kernel and initrd passing the parameter "iso-scan/filename=/path/to/iso/file" to the kernel.
[06:09] <Some_Person> and that works?
[06:22] <Jordan_U> Some_Person: Yes.
[06:22] <Some_Person> Jordan_U: Ok, I'll try it
[06:29] <Some_Person> Well, I'll be damned. It actually worked the first time I tried it
[06:31] <Some_Person> As far as first impressions of maverick (live booted from iso on HD), compiz seems very snappy
[09:05] <valorie> question: during global jam today, a couple of us were trying to load Kubuntu 64 bit Mav
[09:05] <valorie> without success
[09:06] <valorie> I was about to give up, when another member reminded me in IRC that I have an spare HD for this laptop
[09:06] <valorie> it's about half full -- is ~71 gigs plenty of room to test with?
[09:07] <valorie> I couldn't get the virtualbox to work, but this will be a real box
[09:07] <valorie> :-0
[09:07] <valorie> if that's enough room
[09:08] <SwedeMike> ubuntu needs like 10 gigs
[09:08] <valorie> oh, that sounds good
[09:09] <valorie> I think I'll partition off the old backup
[09:09] <SwedeMike> if you don't need any files other than the OS, you're fine with 3-5 gigs
[09:09] <valorie> just in case
[09:09] <valorie> I was going to leave it, because that's lots of music
[09:09] <valorie> :-)
[09:09] <valorie> why not have fun while testing?
[09:10] <SwedeMike> put it on another partition so you can wipe whenever you need to.
[09:10] <Tweaky> hihi. having issues installing my graphics driver. http://pastebin.com/vD1Ripmz which ofc i havnt had a problem installing before 10.10 :p
[09:13] <valorie> yup, will do
[09:25] <JohnFlux> When I install a library like /usr/lib/libstreamanalyzer.so.0.7.2     what creates the symlinks to it?
[09:25] <JohnFlux> because I have no /usr/lib/libstreamanalyzer.so.0.7 symlink - but I should have, no?
[09:28] <bilalakhtar> How do I enable RGBA transparency in Maverick?
[09:36] <kklimonda> JohnFlux: no, not really
[09:36] <kklimonda> JohnFlux: symlinks are in the package
[09:38] <kklimonda> JohnFlux: or they can be created by ldconfig at the installation time
[09:40] <kklimonda> but all packages I can think about do provide symlinks
[09:40] <JohnFlux> woohoo, I wiped out my /usr/local/lib  directory and now it's all working :-)
[09:50] <om26er> bilalakhtar, follow the online instructions maybe. the official plan was postponed for N
[09:50] <bilalakhtar> om26er: Postponed for N? Again! Oh nooo!
[09:50] <bilalakhtar> om26er: I think its enabled for maverick
[09:50] <om26er> no its not
[09:52] <bilalakhtar> om26er: beep, I upgraded to maverick just for this! When was it postponed? E-mail
[09:53] <bilalakhtar> om26er: I mean, the announcement?
[09:54] <om26er> bilalakhtar, csd and argb gtk patches were causing a lot of problems and were taken out. it was meant to be again activated after alpha3 but cody russel was busy in appmenu-gtk so no time to fix bugs
[09:54] <om26er> then there was a work item for murrine engine. assigned to cimi that was also postponed
[09:56] <bilalakhtar> om26er: It was first postponed away from Lucid , now postponed from Maverick, now at Natty
[09:56] <om26er> bilalakhtar, it was also postponed for Karmic
[10:32] <Tux^> Hi, i am trying to install xubuntu 10.10 alpha 3 using a live cd (mdm check is fine). Everything goes on fine, except that i cant see the mouse pointer !
[10:32] <Tux^> What needs to be done can any one help me please
[10:57] <kulight> Evolution opens up on  the contact page and not on the mail page any one can help?
[11:00] <Tux^> Hi, i am trying to install xubuntu 10.10 alpha 3 using a live cd (mdm check is fine). Everything goes on fine, except that i cant see the mouse pointer !
[13:33] <Daekdroom> anyone else having problems with ubuntuone nautilus integration dragging nautilus performance to almost unreponsive?
[13:34] <Daekdroom> I'm thinking about uninstalling it :|
[13:37] <jpds> Daekdroom: Yep.
[13:38] <Daekdroom> The good news is, it is, indeed, ubuntuone, because uninstalling gnome integration solved it
[13:50] <duffydack> what no amd64 daily?
[14:27] <penguin42> has someone got a 32bit Maverick they can try and replicate a bug on?
[14:27] <penguin42> all mine are 64
[14:28] <ali1234> will a livecd do?
[14:28] <ali1234> (actually liveusb)
[14:28] <ali1234> and it's rather out of date
[14:28] <penguin42> no, actually it's OK - I've just noticed the original reporter tried it on 64 as well
[14:28] <penguin42> but thanks for the offer
[14:54] <dart> all applications with panel indicators crashes instantly as soon as i launch them....rhythmbox, gwibber, empathy etc.....is there a sloution for this because I can't use any application that have a panel indicator
[15:10] <knittl> why can't i search my track titles in rhythmbox with simply typing them? it's only filtering artists, which – honestly – sucks
[15:16] <Daekdroom> knittl, you can
[15:16] <knittl> Daekdroom: how?
[15:16] <Daekdroom> knittl, right beside the search box, you can select what you are looking for
[15:16] <Daekdroom> Generic-esque, title, artist or album, I think
[15:17] <knittl> Daekdroom: no, still searches artist names
[15:17] <Daekdroom> odd
[15:17] <knittl> those buttons are only for the search box
[15:18] <Daekdroom> Mouse clicks randomly stop working :|
[15:18] <Daekdroom> I hate having to restart X
[15:47] <Yaron-Heb_> Hi Guys, when is the translation deadline for Maverick?
[15:57] <disappearedng__> Hey is maverick providing better support for sony vaio laptops? (Specifically brightness + mic problems)
[16:00] <disappearedng__> how stable would you say maverick is
[16:01] <penguin42> disappearedng__: Still a bit flaky I'd say
[16:01] <disappearedng__> ah then I better not upgrade
[16:01] <disappearedng__> cause I need to get my microphone working
[16:27] <DrHalan1> is there a way to use indicator-network with networkmanager?
[17:13] <Rods_Tiger> I?ve been installing the latest available iso of maverick meerkat all afternoon and for the past few hours it hasn?t progressed beyond 79%.
[17:14] <Rods_Tiger> It still says ?retrieving file 2 of 8?
[17:14] <Rods_Tiger> best to crash it and start again, or is there a chance that it will complete somehow?
[17:14] <dan457> R  U connected to the internet with that box?
[17:15] <Rods_Tiger> wirelessly, but it hasn?t asked about login and passwords
[17:16] <Rods_Tiger> is that what it?s waiting for?
[17:16] <Rods_Tiger> it didn?t even mention connecting to the internet (or not)
[17:16] <dan457> prob connection issue.  Try again or install without connecting.
[17:17] <Rods_Tiger> as far as I?m aware, it was not going to connect
[17:17] <Rods_Tiger> but it looks like it was expecting to somehow connect without asking for login and password of my homehub
[17:17] <dan457> Try a hardwire connection then.  I know I have to for some reason on my eee pc or it gives me isssues.
[17:18] <Rods_Tiger> that?s going to be another day then if it needs wiring in
[17:18] <Rods_Tiger> cheers anyway
[17:19] <dan457> It *should* work without it, but one of my computers doesn't finish without it.
[17:20] <dan457> Prob. a minor bug.
[17:20] <dan457> This computer i'm on now installed without a connection at all.  but that was before the new installer.
[17:27] <yofel> Rods_Tiger, dan457: the new installer tells you on the first page that you should have a wired internet connection, IIRC wirelss should be fine too, but it does need a network connection for something
[17:30] <dan457> That would explain it.
[17:31] <dan457> Hope they allow non-connected installs again by release though.
[17:48] <penguin42> requiring connectivity would be nasty
[17:49] <penguin42> plenty of places you can't get it; eg some corporate networks, or when you're trying to install your gateway machine for the first time!
[17:51] <dan457> Yup
[17:51] <Daekdroom> Not to mention the whole set of modems and connections that'll require a installed system in order to be setup
[17:51] <Daekdroom> (If ubuntu doesn't support it out of the box)
[17:51] <penguin42> nod
[17:51] <dan457> Don't forget if you need to use an alternate install cd, good luck getting wireless up and running....
[17:54] <yofel> wait, we're talking about ubiquity here, the alternate disk uses debian-installer and I sure hope that won't need a network connection
[17:55] <penguin42> but wth does ubiquity need it? I can see how it might like to do some upgrades if it can - but not NEED it
[17:56] <yofel> no idea, would have to ask in #ubuntu-installer, IIRC it were language packs
[17:56] <Daekdroom> It uses connection to download security fixes and language packs in development versions, but it wasn't necessary before, why should it be now.
[17:58] <yofel> well, at least the kubuntu installer has a checkbox to install updates while installing, but it shouldn't need a connection if that isn't checked
[18:00] <penguin42> I guess I could understand it if some of the more unusual language packs weren't on the disk
[18:00] <penguin42> but if it needs the net it should give you the option and let you back out
[18:32] <BUGabundo> getting stuff out of an encrypted (high grade) volume is so painfully slowwwwwwww
[18:34] <Patrickdk> heh, must be your cpu
[18:35] <BUGabundo> ORLY?
[18:35] <BUGabundo> who would guessed
[18:36] <Patrickdk> hehe :)
[18:36] <BUGabundo> now put fslint looking for dupes on top of that :p
[18:37] <Patrickdk> hmm, strange
[18:37] <Patrickdk> just did benchmarks on mine
[18:37] <Patrickdk> I'm getting 34MB/s read speeds
[18:38] <Patrickdk> except for the one non-motherboard sata drive I have, it's getting 70MB/s
[18:38] <Patrickdk> non-motherboard sata drive can get 120MB/s, and with aes 256 + xts, sha512
[18:38] <Patrickdk> when reading raw
[18:42] <Patrickdk> interesting
[18:42] <Patrickdk> read speeds are 110MB/s for motherboard and non-motherboard sata for raw speeds
[18:42] <Patrickdk> wonder why it changes so much for encryption
[18:43] <Patrickdk> probably command queuing support
[19:07] <kroson> hi people is there a way to have xserver 1.8 in maverick, in order to  use the proprietary ati driver?
[19:09] <yofel> kroson: I don't think we have 1.8 anywhere anymore. Youll either have to use 1.9 or downgrade to 1.7 from lucid
[19:09] <gnomefreak> usin 1.7 == very bad idea
[19:10] <kroson> ok so hopefully well have 10.9 with xserver 1.9 support right?
[19:10] <kroson> lol
[19:11] <yofel> stupid xapian
[19:11] <yofel> xapian.DatabaseLockError: Unable to acquire database write lock on /var/lib/apt-xapian-index/index.1: already locked
[19:12] <BUGabundo> yofel: so that's why mine as been indexing since I installed fresh?
[19:14] <yofel> well, mine just said on update:
[19:14] <yofel> No Xapian index built yet: falling back to full rebuild
[19:14] <yofel> Rebuilding Xapian index...Traceback (most recent call last):
[19:14] <yofel> <snip trace/>
[19:14] <yofel> xapian.DatabaseLockError: Unable to acquire database write lock on /var/lib/apt-xapian-index/index.1: already locked
[19:15] <yofel> it seems to work now though
[19:15] <yofel> Rebuilding Xapian index... 22%
[19:19] <BUGabundo> mine never finished
[19:19] <BUGabundo> its been like that since the 24th
[19:19] <BUGabundo> 5 days to make an index?
[19:20] <yofel> that sounds broken
[19:21] <BUGabundo> and ofc
[19:21] <BUGabundo> once I complain
[19:21] <BUGabundo> it magicly finnish
[19:21] <BUGabundo> bah
[19:21] <gnomefreak> everything is broken at some point :)
[19:23]  * charlie-tca thinks you should complain sooner to have it finish sooner ;-)
[19:24] <BUGabundo> yep
[19:24] <BUGabundo> so let me try again
[19:24] <BUGabundo> what's the policy kit stuff that always hangs when I try to shutdown?
[19:24] <yofel> well, maverick works pretty well for me, except for this fine scent of breakage that make it fun :P
[19:24]  * BUGabundo understands that most users here NEVER reboot
[19:24] <yofel> BUGabundo: that was reported afaik
[19:27] <yofel>  bug 623819
[19:27] <BUGabundo> tjanks
[19:54] <kulight> Evolution opens on the contacts page and not the mail p[age can any 1 help?
[20:11] <maurer_> I'm having issues with my intel wireless card.
[20:12] <maurer_> I'm seeing packet drop rates of around 25% which are not registered by ifconfig.
[20:12] <maurer_> Yesterday, I managed to solve this problem by installing the latest compat-wireless, but I rebooted to receive an update (didn't check which) and it's broken again.
[20:13] <maurer_> Re-installing compat-wireless no longer fixes it
[20:19] <lapion> has anyone here tried installing ubuntu from a partition onto the same disc as the partition resides within
[21:01] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/light-themes/+bug/532309
[21:01] <DanaG> Looks really ugly.
[21:09]  * vish DanaG made my day! \o/
[21:14] <mininessie> i know clean installs are the way to go but i want to uncleanly install 10.10 from 10.04 is alpha 3 stable enough to do that and is broadcom supported in the alpha
[21:18] <maurer_> mininessie: Don't know about broadcom, but under 10.10 my intel card starts dropping packets. I'm actually in the process of downgrading right now because I couldn't find a reliable fix.
[21:18] <penguin42> mininessie: It's a bit mixed; I've still got some annoying bugs on 10.10; not got Broadcom
[21:19] <dan457> I'd wait a bit before doing an upgrade.
[21:20] <dan457> or at leaste backup first.  expect some things to break.
[21:22] <DanaG> My intel card does, as well.
[21:22] <DanaG> http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-wireless/msg54700.html
[21:23] <mininessie> have they added windicators yet?
[21:24] <maurer_> DanaG What did you do to fix it?
[21:24] <maurer_> DanaG: I got it working for a day by futzing with compat-wireless
[21:25] <maurer_> But after a reboot, it broke again, and reinstalling compat-wireless did not fix it.
[21:25] <mininessie> will 10.10 have shotwell instead of f-spot
[21:26] <penguin42> mininessie: Already does
[21:26] <mininessie> penguin42, oh i haven't seen alpha 3 only alpha 2
[21:27] <DanaG> I haven't fixed it... I just complain about it (though not in here, since it's not ubuntu's fault) instead.
[21:28] <DanaG> oh, and something else: http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11227
[21:28] <DanaG> 3 years old.
[21:28] <DanaG> All this stuff about gestures... well, I don't want gestures.... I just want my keys to work.
[21:28] <DanaG> All of them.
[21:29] <DanaG> hmm, off to try 36 kernel.
[21:54] <mininessie> is alpha 3 stable enough to distro upgrade to not a clean install an unclean install
[21:56] <BUGabundo> alpha3 is OLD
[21:56] <mininessie> 10.10 alpha 3
[21:58] <BUGabundo> its old
[21:58] <BUGabundo> get a daily
[21:59] <mininessie> well is the daily stable enough to distro upgrade rather than a fresh install
[21:59] <mininessie> cause i don't want to do a fresh install of 10.10
[21:59] <BUGabundo> then do a backup
[21:59] <BUGabundo> if anything fails, restore
[22:00] <penguin42> mininessie: It's still an alpha - *ANYTHING* might happen, and many things already will
[22:00] <BUGabundo> *if* you are not willing to do a clean install, then you probablu shouldn't be running devel version
[22:00] <BUGabundo> it can an will brake
[22:00] <BUGabundo> BAD
[22:00]  * BUGabundo wonders what he just wrote
[22:01] <penguin42> BUGabundo: Well, its about right
[22:01] <switz_> I just upgraded and all of the sudden I can start x
[22:01] <penguin42> BUGabundo: Heck, theres only one bug left that stops my machine....
[22:01] <penguin42> switz_: Nvidia/ATI/Intel ?
[22:01] <switz_> Nvidia ion
[22:01] <penguin42> were you running the closed source driver?
[22:01] <BUGabundo> penguin42: I only have two so far:
[22:02] <switz_>  I think so
[22:02] <BUGabundo> policy kit on shutdown, sound muted on boot.... on kmail crash on startup
[22:02] <BUGabundo> other then that, its ROCK SOLID
[22:02] <penguin42> switz_: OK, there's a workaround involving a small change to xorg.conf - but I'vm not an NVidia user
[22:03] <BUGabundo> bjsnider: ^^^^^^^
[22:03] <penguin42> BUGabundo: I have to add nointremap to the boot line otherwise it oopses, Radeon drivers are having problems (open source ones), bunch of less painful stuff
[22:04] <switz_> Where can I find the fix?
[22:04] <penguin42> switz_: Scroll down to 18:07 in here: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/08/12/%23ubuntu+1.txt
[22:05] <bjsnider> BUGabundo, yofel has the bug number, but nvidia just released a driver update that addresses this issue, so i imagine alberto will toss it into maverick tomorrow
[22:06] <BUGabundo> coolio
[22:06] <BUGabundo> switz_: ^^^^^^^
[22:06] <penguin42> BUGabundo: Here's my current bug list: https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-treblig/+reportedbugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-datecreated
[22:06] <yofel> bug 616023
[22:06]  * yofel begins to feel like ubottu...
[22:06] <BUGabundo> ahaha
[22:07] <BUGabundo> welcome to my world .... 2 years ago
[22:07] <bjsnider> it should have been int he channel topic, but it's irrelevant now
[22:07] <yofel> :D
[22:07] <BUGabundo> tat used to be me
[22:07] <BUGabundo> every single bug out of my head or ff awesome bar
[22:09] <penguin42> we really could do with a more dynamic way of keeping the common bugs
[22:10] <penguin42> I did add a couple to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaverickMeerkat/TechnicalOverview  - there's a Known Issues list that you can edit
[22:11] <bjsnider> problem is the bugs are kept in order by numbers and humans don't think in numbers we think in terms of words and names
[22:11] <bjsnider> which is why we need domain names instead of just ip addresses
[22:12] <penguin42> yeh
[22:12] <penguin42> although I'm sure there are people who'll remember their IPv6 address
[22:13] <BUGabundo> LOL
[22:13] <BUGabundo> yeah I used to track TO back then
[22:13] <BUGabundo> and meeting logs
[22:15] <penguin42> BUGabundo: Google found that one for me
[22:16] <switz_> When I try to edit my xorg.conf it says it is read only
[22:17] <yofel> switz_: you're edting it with sudo rights?
[22:17] <switz_> Yep
[22:18] <mininessie> is there broadcom sta support for kernel 2.6.35
[22:18] <BUGabundo> switz_: $ sudo !!
[22:18] <yofel> switz_: my xorg.conf here has -rw-r--r-- permissions as should yours
[22:20] <mininessie> is there broadcom sta support for kernel 2.6.35
[22:20] <switz_> Fixed sorry
[22:20] <mininessie> anyone here
[22:21] <yofel> mininessie: what driver is your card using?
[22:21] <mininessie> yofel, broadcom 4322
[22:23] <yofel> that card should be supported by the bcmwl-kernel-source package like in lucid, I can test if it installs, but as I don't have a broadcom card I can't actually test the driver
[22:24] <mininessie> yofel, i am wondering cause i am upgrading to 10.10 and before i was unable to get it to work
[22:24] <switz_> I am still getting the no screens found problem after editing y
[22:24] <switz_> My xorg.conf
[22:25] <yofel> switz_: did you add the ignoreABI option at the top of the file?
[22:25] <switz_> Yeah I put it in the exact same place as the example
[22:26] <yofel> and you're using nvidia current (256.44) ?
[22:26] <switz_> How can I check that?
[22:27] <yofel> switz_: apt-cache policy nvidia-current
[22:28] <switz_> Yes I have the current driver
[22:29] <yofel> hm... what does your /var/log/Xorg.0.log say?
[22:30] <switz_> Fatal server error no screens found
[22:31] <yofel> it should say something about incompatible abi before that if that's what making it fail
[22:31] <penguin42> switz_: Can you put it on a paste bin - that's the symptom not the cause
[22:31] <switz_> I also have an error: error parsing config file
[22:32] <yofel> oh nice, sarvatt uploaded 256.52 to x-updates
[22:32] <yofel> switz_: can you pastebin your xorg.conf please
[22:32] <switz_> One second
[22:35] <yofel> pastebinit might be useful
[22:35] <yofel> !pastebinit
[23:04] <switz_> I think I'll just download the alpha in a couple days and I'll do a clean install
[23:09] <BUGabundo> get a daily instead
[23:09] <BUGabundo> saves you the downloads