/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/08/29/#ubuntu+1.txt

BUGabundokklimonda: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHnP5zWTWqc&feature=player_embedded#at=8801:21
penguin42<bed>01:24
DanaG[13482.860894] BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at 000000000000003002:03
DanaG[13482.867933] IP: [<ffffffffa00b7386>] btrfs_print_leaf+0x26/0x4f0 [btrfs]02:03
BUGabundoYAY for good drivers02:08
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maurer_DanaG: More likely to get useful stuff for that upsteream....02:36
maurer_*upstream02:36
DanaGARGH... stupid ffmpeg keeps segfaulting.04:45
FFForeverhow can I install from a thumb drive?04:48
ZykoticK9FFForever, careful (not sure if it's still applies) but there was a bug with Maverick USB drives created in Lucid.... sorry I don't know the bug # (nor did i experience the issue - i've just seen it come up in the channel a couple of times)04:51
FFForeverwhat is the best way to create one though from the iso?04:52
FFForeverZykoticK9, would the error happen to be something that causes a segmentation fault?05:18
ZykoticK9FFForever, sorry not sure05:18
ZykoticK9FFForever, i believe it was some sort of failed to boot / initramfs or something... but i'm REALLY not sure of the details05:19
Some_PersonIs there any way to install without burning/booting to the CD/ISO?05:20
Jordan_USome_Person: Yes, there are a few different ways. The one I prefer is setting up grub to boot the iso file from the hard drive.05:51
Jordan_UFFForever: If unetbootin isn't working for you then using grub2 to boot from an iso file may be a solution for you as well.05:53
Jordan_UDanaG: I don't think fat16 supports case sensitive label names (nor label names longer than 11 characters) so it's not really the fault of mtools. What are you doing when ffmpeg segfaults, or is it segfaulting with most operations?05:57
Some_PersonJordan_U: But I'm using GRUB legacy05:57
DanaGIt's segfaulting on transcoding.06:00
DanaGOh, and with Windows, or with gparted (upon "create partition" only), I can make a lowercase label.06:00
Some_PersonJordan_U: Is there any other way?06:02
Jordan_U!install | Some_Person06:05
ubottuSome_Person: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate06:05
Some_PersonYeah, already seen that, but unfortunately I didn't really see anything that would work for me06:05
Some_PersonMaybe I should just buy some damn discs06:06
Some_Personor a new flash drive06:06
Some_Personor both06:06
Jordan_USome_Person: You can use grub legacy to boot from an iso file, but you need to manually extract the kernel/initrd first.06:06
Some_PersonJordan_U: How does that work?06:07
Jordan_USome_Person: You loop mount the iso file (or open it in archive manager) and copy the kernel and initrd to an area that grub can read from, then you setup your menu.lst to load the kernel and initrd passing the parameter "iso-scan/filename=/path/to/iso/file" to the kernel.06:09
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Some_Personand that works?06:09
Jordan_USome_Person: Yes.06:22
Some_PersonJordan_U: Ok, I'll try it06:22
Some_PersonWell, I'll be damned. It actually worked the first time I tried it06:29
Some_PersonAs far as first impressions of maverick (live booted from iso on HD), compiz seems very snappy06:31
valoriequestion: during global jam today, a couple of us were trying to load Kubuntu 64 bit Mav09:05
valoriewithout success09:05
valorieI was about to give up, when another member reminded me in IRC that I have an spare HD for this laptop09:06
valorieit's about half full -- is ~71 gigs plenty of room to test with?09:06
valorieI couldn't get the virtualbox to work, but this will be a real box09:07
valorie:-009:07
valorieif that's enough room09:07
SwedeMikeubuntu needs like 10 gigs09:08
valorieoh, that sounds good09:08
valorieI think I'll partition off the old backup09:09
SwedeMikeif you don't need any files other than the OS, you're fine with 3-5 gigs09:09
valoriejust in case09:09
valorieI was going to leave it, because that's lots of music09:09
valorie:-)09:09
valoriewhy not have fun while testing?09:09
SwedeMikeput it on another partition so you can wipe whenever you need to.09:10
Tweakyhihi. having issues installing my graphics driver. http://pastebin.com/vD1Ripmz which ofc i havnt had a problem installing before 10.10 :p09:10
valorieyup, will do09:13
JohnFluxWhen I install a library like /usr/lib/libstreamanalyzer.so.0.7.2     what creates the symlinks to it?09:25
JohnFluxbecause I have no /usr/lib/libstreamanalyzer.so.0.7 symlink - but I should have, no?09:25
bilalakhtarHow do I enable RGBA transparency in Maverick?09:28
kklimondaJohnFlux: no, not really09:36
kklimondaJohnFlux: symlinks are in the package09:36
kklimondaJohnFlux: or they can be created by ldconfig at the installation time09:38
kklimondabut all packages I can think about do provide symlinks09:40
JohnFluxwoohoo, I wiped out my /usr/local/lib  directory and now it's all working :-)09:40
om26erbilalakhtar, follow the online instructions maybe. the official plan was postponed for N09:50
bilalakhtarom26er: Postponed for N? Again! Oh nooo!09:50
bilalakhtarom26er: I think its enabled for maverick09:50
om26erno its not09:50
bilalakhtarom26er: beep, I upgraded to maverick just for this! When was it postponed? E-mail09:52
bilalakhtarom26er: I mean, the announcement?09:53
om26erbilalakhtar, csd and argb gtk patches were causing a lot of problems and were taken out. it was meant to be again activated after alpha3 but cody russel was busy in appmenu-gtk so no time to fix bugs09:54
om26erthen there was a work item for murrine engine. assigned to cimi that was also postponed09:54
bilalakhtarom26er: It was first postponed away from Lucid , now postponed from Maverick, now at Natty09:56
om26erbilalakhtar, it was also postponed for Karmic09:56
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Tux^Hi, i am trying to install xubuntu 10.10 alpha 3 using a live cd (mdm check is fine). Everything goes on fine, except that i cant see the mouse pointer !10:32
Tux^What needs to be done can any one help me please10:32
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kulightEvolution opens up on  the contact page and not on the mail page any one can help?10:57
Tux^Hi, i am trying to install xubuntu 10.10 alpha 3 using a live cd (mdm check is fine). Everything goes on fine, except that i cant see the mouse pointer !11:00
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Daekdroomanyone else having problems with ubuntuone nautilus integration dragging nautilus performance to almost unreponsive?13:33
DaekdroomI'm thinking about uninstalling it :|13:34
jpdsDaekdroom: Yep.13:37
DaekdroomThe good news is, it is, indeed, ubuntuone, because uninstalling gnome integration solved it13:38
duffydackwhat no amd64 daily?13:50
penguin42has someone got a 32bit Maverick they can try and replicate a bug on?14:27
penguin42all mine are 6414:27
ali1234will a livecd do?14:28
ali1234(actually liveusb)14:28
ali1234and it's rather out of date14:28
penguin42no, actually it's OK - I've just noticed the original reporter tried it on 64 as well14:28
penguin42but thanks for the offer14:28
dartall applications with panel indicators crashes instantly as soon as i launch them....rhythmbox, gwibber, empathy etc.....is there a sloution for this because I can't use any application that have a panel indicator14:54
knittlwhy can't i search my track titles in rhythmbox with simply typing them? it's only filtering artists, which – honestly – sucks15:10
Daekdroomknittl, you can15:16
knittlDaekdroom: how?15:16
Daekdroomknittl, right beside the search box, you can select what you are looking for15:16
DaekdroomGeneric-esque, title, artist or album, I think15:16
knittlDaekdroom: no, still searches artist names15:17
Daekdroomodd15:17
knittlthose buttons are only for the search box15:17
DaekdroomMouse clicks randomly stop working :|15:18
DaekdroomI hate having to restart X15:18
Yaron-Heb_Hi Guys, when is the translation deadline for Maverick?15:47
disappearedng__Hey is maverick providing better support for sony vaio laptops? (Specifically brightness + mic problems)15:57
disappearedng__how stable would you say maverick is16:00
penguin42disappearedng__: Still a bit flaky I'd say16:01
disappearedng__ah then I better not upgrade16:01
disappearedng__cause I need to get my microphone working16:01
DrHalan1is there a way to use indicator-network with networkmanager?16:27
Rods_TigerI?ve been installing the latest available iso of maverick meerkat all afternoon and for the past few hours it hasn?t progressed beyond 79%.17:13
Rods_TigerIt still says ?retrieving file 2 of 8?17:14
Rods_Tigerbest to crash it and start again, or is there a chance that it will complete somehow?17:14
dan457R  U connected to the internet with that box?17:14
Rods_Tigerwirelessly, but it hasn?t asked about login and passwords17:15
Rods_Tigeris that what it?s waiting for?17:16
Rods_Tigerit didn?t even mention connecting to the internet (or not)17:16
dan457prob connection issue.  Try again or install without connecting.17:16
Rods_Tigeras far as I?m aware, it was not going to connect17:17
Rods_Tigerbut it looks like it was expecting to somehow connect without asking for login and password of my homehub17:17
dan457Try a hardwire connection then.  I know I have to for some reason on my eee pc or it gives me isssues.17:17
Rods_Tigerthat?s going to be another day then if it needs wiring in17:18
Rods_Tigercheers anyway17:18
dan457It *should* work without it, but one of my computers doesn't finish without it.17:19
dan457Prob. a minor bug.17:20
dan457This computer i'm on now installed without a connection at all.  but that was before the new installer.17:20
yofelRods_Tiger, dan457: the new installer tells you on the first page that you should have a wired internet connection, IIRC wirelss should be fine too, but it does need a network connection for something17:27
dan457That would explain it.17:30
dan457Hope they allow non-connected installs again by release though.17:31
penguin42requiring connectivity would be nasty17:48
penguin42plenty of places you can't get it; eg some corporate networks, or when you're trying to install your gateway machine for the first time!17:49
dan457Yup17:51
DaekdroomNot to mention the whole set of modems and connections that'll require a installed system in order to be setup17:51
Daekdroom(If ubuntu doesn't support it out of the box)17:51
penguin42nod17:51
dan457Don't forget if you need to use an alternate install cd, good luck getting wireless up and running....17:51
yofelwait, we're talking about ubiquity here, the alternate disk uses debian-installer and I sure hope that won't need a network connection17:54
penguin42but wth does ubiquity need it? I can see how it might like to do some upgrades if it can - but not NEED it17:55
yofelno idea, would have to ask in #ubuntu-installer, IIRC it were language packs17:56
DaekdroomIt uses connection to download security fixes and language packs in development versions, but it wasn't necessary before, why should it be now.17:56
yofelwell, at least the kubuntu installer has a checkbox to install updates while installing, but it shouldn't need a connection if that isn't checked17:58
penguin42I guess I could understand it if some of the more unusual language packs weren't on the disk18:00
penguin42but if it needs the net it should give you the option and let you back out18:00
BUGabundogetting stuff out of an encrypted (high grade) volume is so painfully slowwwwwwww18:32
Patrickdkheh, must be your cpu18:34
BUGabundoORLY?18:35
BUGabundowho would guessed18:35
Patrickdkhehe :)18:36
BUGabundonow put fslint looking for dupes on top of that :p18:36
Patrickdkhmm, strange18:37
Patrickdkjust did benchmarks on mine18:37
PatrickdkI'm getting 34MB/s read speeds18:37
Patrickdkexcept for the one non-motherboard sata drive I have, it's getting 70MB/s18:38
Patrickdknon-motherboard sata drive can get 120MB/s, and with aes 256 + xts, sha51218:38
Patrickdkwhen reading raw18:38
Patrickdkinteresting18:42
Patrickdkread speeds are 110MB/s for motherboard and non-motherboard sata for raw speeds18:42
Patrickdkwonder why it changes so much for encryption18:42
Patrickdkprobably command queuing support18:43
krosonhi people is there a way to have xserver 1.8 in maverick, in order to  use the proprietary ati driver?19:07
yofelkroson: I don't think we have 1.8 anywhere anymore. Youll either have to use 1.9 or downgrade to 1.7 from lucid19:09
gnomefreakusin 1.7 == very bad idea19:09
krosonok so hopefully well have 10.9 with xserver 1.9 support right?19:10
krosonlol19:10
yofelstupid xapian19:11
yofelxapian.DatabaseLockError: Unable to acquire database write lock on /var/lib/apt-xapian-index/index.1: already locked19:11
BUGabundoyofel: so that's why mine as been indexing since I installed fresh?19:12
yofelwell, mine just said on update:19:14
yofelNo Xapian index built yet: falling back to full rebuild19:14
yofelRebuilding Xapian index...Traceback (most recent call last):19:14
yofel<snip trace/>19:14
yofelxapian.DatabaseLockError: Unable to acquire database write lock on /var/lib/apt-xapian-index/index.1: already locked19:14
yofelit seems to work now though19:15
yofelRebuilding Xapian index... 22%19:15
BUGabundomine never finished19:19
BUGabundoits been like that since the 24th19:19
BUGabundo5 days to make an index?19:19
yofelthat sounds broken19:20
BUGabundoand ofc19:21
BUGabundoonce I complain19:21
BUGabundoit magicly finnish19:21
BUGabundobah19:21
gnomefreakeverything is broken at some point :)19:21
* charlie-tca thinks you should complain sooner to have it finish sooner ;-)19:23
BUGabundoyep19:24
BUGabundoso let me try again19:24
BUGabundowhat's the policy kit stuff that always hangs when I try to shutdown?19:24
yofelwell, maverick works pretty well for me, except for this fine scent of breakage that make it fun :P19:24
* BUGabundo understands that most users here NEVER reboot19:24
yofelBUGabundo: that was reported afaik19:24
yofel bug 62381919:27
ubottuLaunchpad bug 623819 in policykit-1-gnome (Ubuntu) "[Maverick] policykit is not responding" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/62381919:27
BUGabundotjanks19:27
kulightEvolution opens on the contacts page and not the mail p[age can any 1 help?19:54
maurer_I'm having issues with my intel wireless card.20:11
maurer_I'm seeing packet drop rates of around 25% which are not registered by ifconfig.20:12
maurer_Yesterday, I managed to solve this problem by installing the latest compat-wireless, but I rebooted to receive an update (didn't check which) and it's broken again.20:12
maurer_Re-installing compat-wireless no longer fixes it20:13
lapionhas anyone here tried installing ubuntu from a partition onto the same disc as the partition resides within20:19
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DanaGhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/light-themes/+bug/53230921:01
ubottuLaunchpad bug 532309 in light-themes (Ubuntu) "Light-themes: panel-background isn't scaling" [Low,Confirmed]21:01
DanaGLooks really ugly.21:01
* vish DanaG made my day! \o/21:09
mininessiei know clean installs are the way to go but i want to uncleanly install 10.10 from 10.04 is alpha 3 stable enough to do that and is broadcom supported in the alpha21:14
maurer_mininessie: Don't know about broadcom, but under 10.10 my intel card starts dropping packets. I'm actually in the process of downgrading right now because I couldn't find a reliable fix.21:18
penguin42mininessie: It's a bit mixed; I've still got some annoying bugs on 10.10; not got Broadcom21:18
dan457I'd wait a bit before doing an upgrade.21:19
dan457or at leaste backup first.  expect some things to break.21:20
DanaGMy intel card does, as well.21:22
DanaGhttp://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-wireless/msg54700.html21:22
mininessiehave they added windicators yet?21:23
maurer_DanaG What did you do to fix it?21:24
maurer_DanaG: I got it working for a day by futzing with compat-wireless21:24
maurer_But after a reboot, it broke again, and reinstalling compat-wireless did not fix it.21:25
mininessiewill 10.10 have shotwell instead of f-spot21:25
penguin42mininessie: Already does21:26
mininessiepenguin42, oh i haven't seen alpha 3 only alpha 221:26
DanaGI haven't fixed it... I just complain about it (though not in here, since it's not ubuntu's fault) instead.21:27
DanaGoh, and something else: http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1122721:28
ubottuFreedesktop bug 11227 in Input/Core "Allow > 255 keycodes" [Enhancement,New]21:28
DanaG3 years old.21:28
DanaGAll this stuff about gestures... well, I don't want gestures.... I just want my keys to work.21:28
DanaGAll of them.21:28
DanaGhmm, off to try 36 kernel.21:29
mininessieis alpha 3 stable enough to distro upgrade to not a clean install an unclean install21:54
BUGabundoalpha3 is OLD21:56
mininessie10.10 alpha 321:56
BUGabundoits old21:58
BUGabundoget a daily21:58
mininessiewell is the daily stable enough to distro upgrade rather than a fresh install21:59
mininessiecause i don't want to do a fresh install of 10.1021:59
BUGabundothen do a backup21:59
BUGabundoif anything fails, restore21:59
penguin42mininessie: It's still an alpha - *ANYTHING* might happen, and many things already will22:00
BUGabundo*if* you are not willing to do a clean install, then you probablu shouldn't be running devel version22:00
BUGabundoit can an will brake22:00
BUGabundoBAD22:00
* BUGabundo wonders what he just wrote22:00
penguin42BUGabundo: Well, its about right22:01
switz_I just upgraded and all of the sudden I can start x22:01
penguin42BUGabundo: Heck, theres only one bug left that stops my machine....22:01
penguin42switz_: Nvidia/ATI/Intel ?22:01
switz_Nvidia ion22:01
penguin42were you running the closed source driver?22:01
BUGabundopenguin42: I only have two so far:22:01
switz_ I think so22:02
BUGabundopolicy kit on shutdown, sound muted on boot.... on kmail crash on startup22:02
BUGabundoother then that, its ROCK SOLID22:02
penguin42switz_: OK, there's a workaround involving a small change to xorg.conf - but I'vm not an NVidia user22:02
BUGabundobjsnider: ^^^^^^^22:03
penguin42BUGabundo: I have to add nointremap to the boot line otherwise it oopses, Radeon drivers are having problems (open source ones), bunch of less painful stuff22:03
switz_Where can I find the fix?22:04
penguin42switz_: Scroll down to 18:07 in here: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/08/12/%23ubuntu+1.txt22:04
bjsniderBUGabundo, yofel has the bug number, but nvidia just released a driver update that addresses this issue, so i imagine alberto will toss it into maverick tomorrow22:05
BUGabundocoolio22:06
BUGabundoswitz_: ^^^^^^^22:06
penguin42BUGabundo: Here's my current bug list: https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-treblig/+reportedbugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-datecreated22:06
yofelbug 61602322:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 616023 in nvidia-graphics-drivers (Ubuntu Maverick) "nVidia card : X won't start since 1.9 update, no screens found" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/61602322:06
* yofel begins to feel like ubottu...22:06
BUGabundoahaha22:06
BUGabundowelcome to my world .... 2 years ago22:07
bjsniderit should have been int he channel topic, but it's irrelevant now22:07
yofel:D22:07
BUGabundotat used to be me22:07
BUGabundoevery single bug out of my head or ff awesome bar22:07
penguin42we really could do with a more dynamic way of keeping the common bugs22:09
penguin42I did add a couple to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaverickMeerkat/TechnicalOverview  - there's a Known Issues list that you can edit22:10
bjsniderproblem is the bugs are kept in order by numbers and humans don't think in numbers we think in terms of words and names22:11
bjsniderwhich is why we need domain names instead of just ip addresses22:11
penguin42yeh22:12
penguin42although I'm sure there are people who'll remember their IPv6 address22:12
BUGabundoLOL22:13
BUGabundoyeah I used to track TO back then22:13
BUGabundoand meeting logs22:13
penguin42BUGabundo: Google found that one for me22:15
switz_When I try to edit my xorg.conf it says it is read only22:16
yofelswitz_: you're edting it with sudo rights?22:17
switz_Yep22:17
mininessieis there broadcom sta support for kernel 2.6.3522:18
BUGabundoswitz_: $ sudo !!22:18
yofelswitz_: my xorg.conf here has -rw-r--r-- permissions as should yours22:18
mininessieis there broadcom sta support for kernel 2.6.3522:20
switz_Fixed sorry22:20
mininessieanyone here22:20
yofelmininessie: what driver is your card using?22:21
mininessieyofel, broadcom 432222:21
yofelthat card should be supported by the bcmwl-kernel-source package like in lucid, I can test if it installs, but as I don't have a broadcom card I can't actually test the driver22:23
mininessieyofel, i am wondering cause i am upgrading to 10.10 and before i was unable to get it to work22:24
switz_I am still getting the no screens found problem after editing y22:24
switz_My xorg.conf22:24
yofelswitz_: did you add the ignoreABI option at the top of the file?22:25
switz_Yeah I put it in the exact same place as the example22:25
yofeland you're using nvidia current (256.44) ?22:26
switz_How can I check that?22:26
yofelswitz_: apt-cache policy nvidia-current22:27
switz_Yes I have the current driver22:28
yofelhm... what does your /var/log/Xorg.0.log say?22:29
switz_Fatal server error no screens found22:30
yofelit should say something about incompatible abi before that if that's what making it fail22:31
penguin42switz_: Can you put it on a paste bin - that's the symptom not the cause22:31
switz_I also have an error: error parsing config file22:31
yofeloh nice, sarvatt uploaded 256.52 to x-updates22:32
yofelswitz_: can you pastebin your xorg.conf please22:32
switz_One second22:32
yofelpastebinit might be useful22:35
yofel!pastebinit22:35
ubottupastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com22:35
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switz_I think I'll just download the alpha in a couple days and I'll do a clean install23:04
BUGabundoget a daily instead23:09
BUGabundosaves you the downloads23:09

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