/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2010/08/29/#ubuntu-accessibility.txt

charlie-tcaDo we know the date of the next meeting?18:00
Pendulumthe next full team meeting is September 15th18:10
Pendulum(I actually remembered to put it in the topic for once!)18:10
charlie-tcaheh, Everything happens given time...18:16
charlie-tcaYou mean I should have read it?18:19
Pendulumhaha18:19
charlie-tcachange the date here to update the meeting times on the wiki now18:19
charlie-tcahttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Accessibility/Header18:19
Pendulumnah, I don't really expect people to read the topic if they've been around for a while18:19
Pendulum*nods*18:19
Pendulumcharlie-tca: btw, since I'm sure you wouldn't have notcied the topic, we have logs now :P18:20
charlie-tcaYou are right! Thanks18:20
Pendulumthey're on irclogs.ubuntu.com18:21
webczatHey.19:37
webczatWhy I can't access synaptic from ubuntu-10? I mean i can't use it with orca.19:37
Pendulumwebczat: what exactly are you trying to do? could you potentially add the package you're looking for from the command line instead?19:48
Pendulum(Sorry, I have no real experience with Orca so can't tell you exactly what the problem is)19:48
webczatPendulum: i can use command line but things like update manager use synaptics i think19:49
Pendulumah, okay19:49
Pendulumyou can also update by doing "sudo apt-get update" (without the quotation marks)19:50
webczatit's upgrade i think. i meant upgrading the system19:51
webczatit's update manager. or upgrade manager.19:51
Pendulumwhat are you trying to upgrade to?19:51
webczatnot trying to upgrade to. it's just an example of a program using synaptics19:52
Pendulumah, okay19:52
webczatalso, language support when installing packages. i just can't see anything/any progress bar or whatever19:52
Pendulum*nods*19:52
webczatupdate manager also does the same but it just returns after updating. the language manager first notifies (when in root) that it installed the package and requires me to press close while nothing talks to me.19:53
PendulumI'm really sorry, I wish I could help, but I really know nothing about Orca. Have you tried asking either on the mailing list, forums, or filing a bug?19:53
AlanBelloh, I know this one19:53
AlanBellI saw a bug about it today19:54
AlanBellit is because you run synaptic with sudo access19:54
webczatno, irc is faster if someone is on it19:54
AlanBelland the root user you switch to does not have at-spi (or orca or it is disconnected from your session or something)19:54
Pendulumoh dear, that's a rather major bug19:55
AlanBellit was a blueprint I saw, not a bug https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/sudo-admin-atspi19:56
Pendulumthat's really old, though19:57
AlanBellthat is a 2006 blueprint, might be done by now19:57
Pendulumthe whiteboard says it was done and submitted for Feisty19:57
Pendulumwebczat: what version of Ubuntu are you using?19:58
webczatPendulum: lucid.19:58
Pendulumhmm... this is a year old, but I wonder if the same fix would work http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com/msg03527.html19:59
Pendulumwebczat: have you tried running synaptic from the command line as "sudo synaptic"?19:59
AlanBelljust trying it with orca on my laptop, it doesn't read synaptic after the gksudo prompt20:00
Pendulumyeah, that seems to be the issue20:01
AlanBelland sudo gedit from the command prompt doesn't read gedit20:01
Pendulumthere's a question from this month on the Orca list, I think, but no one has answered20:01
Pendulumwebczat: you're not the Milton who posted a question to orca-list about this issue last week, right?20:03
webczatno20:07
webczatwhat about making orbit enable ipv4 and disable unix? can someone try to enable it for both root and user?20:07
AlanBellthat would make sense20:08
AlanBellI was trying to run orca with sudo but it doesn't want to start20:08
webczatAlanBell: Try it. Can you? If you'll enable this thing in orbit and relogin, it should probably use user's at-spi20:09
webczatI don't have the ubuntu laptop yet.20:10
webczatlike, i have it but i currently can't use it20:10
webczatbut i want to have it accessible at wednesday. also, i was required to manually set accessibility to true and as mandatory in gconf editor to be able to set accessible login in gdm20:11
webczats/at/on20:11
webczati mean i can set it but it doesn't really enable at-spi even if restarted20:11
webczatalso, i can do sudo-u gdm <gconftoolusagehere) to enable accessibility in gdm, it doesn't do that itself. but it's cool that i can, for example, run orca preferences in gdm20:13
charlie-tcasome work done on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Accessibility ; review in progress20:14
AlanBellnot sure how to get it to use IP sockets, all the documentation I see is about the move to dbus20:19
AlanBelljust wondering if this has been addressed in vinux20:19
webczatAlanBell: wait, i'll give you the config20:29
webczatfile is .orbitrc in homedir20:30
webczathttp://equal.cluenet.org/~webczat/orbitconf do you get it?20:31
webczatAlanBell: try to put it in /root, if doesn't work, then also in your homedir and relogin then20:35
AlanBellok, put that in /root/.orbitrc and /home/alan/.orbitrc and now rebooting20:41
AlanBelldoesn't seem to help20:44
AlanBelljust going to try booting into Maverick20:45
AlanBellbroken in Maverick too20:48
webczatWait for a while, i'm now trying to set up the workflow for bugs in trac repo. or i will try20:50
webczatHmm, or not. anyway, going off.20:53
AlanBellok, I will mention it to themuso if I see him online later webczat 20:54
webczatre21:40

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