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extraclassici have a problem with gnome not aligning my icons even though I've made the auto align selection...http://content.screencast.com/users/j_barnett/folders/Default/media/eb672b79-1028-49bb-ac4b-476684d92cd5/gnome.png04:08
devildantebye all :)04:10
^arky^hi06:49
micahghi06:49
^arky^good to see you micahg, still busy even on weekend06:51
micahg^arky^: well, relaxing but available :)06:51
^arky^thanks, I might trouble you when I get stuck with bug cleaning up06:52
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* vish sighs at people who hit-n-run bugs, commenting without subscribing to the bug11:00
vishgah! if you comment and spam someone they atleast need to subscribe!! :/11:01
nisshhvish: you ranting again?11:02
vishyeah! well humphrey rants and he draws all the silly OMG folks to lp! :/11:02
vishnow! i'm not gonna leave them ;p11:03
vishi'm subscribe them all to the bug ;p11:03
nisshhhaha11:04
nisshhvish: we should make a website, just for your rants "www.mega-vish-rants.com11:04
nisshh"11:04
vishheh11:04
vishnisshh: half my voes would end if they close commenting on OMG, somehow it draws the crazzies , its like full moon to them ;p11:06
nisshhhaha11:07
vishnisshh: seriously, some of the comment there hurt upstream sentiments :(  it saddens me how11:07
vishrude they can get..11:07
nisshhon OMG, you mean vish?11:07
vishyeah, upstreams do read it and the comments, they do take offense..11:08
vishnisshh: if people spent half the time they spend arguing on the comments, they can be useful! :p11:09
nisshhvish: yea, some of them do seem pretty...11:10
* nisshh tries to think of the right word11:10
nisshhharsh11:10
nisshhvish: i prefer the "i hate it but if they did x it would be great!"11:11
nisshhcomments11:11
vishyeah , no constructive comments..11:13
jfisoftware is like football, everybody has an opinion on everything, and nobody has the same11:13
nisshhjfi: and everyone disagrees with everyone11:14
nisshh:)11:14
gorillanisshh: No we don't!11:14
nisshhgorilla: oh, the irony!...11:14
vishopinions are *good*, but its just "I hate it, hate it so much, and this much more. they are *** " and nothing useful ..11:14
gorillanisshh: :-)11:15
nisshhyea11:15
nisshhwow, chromium is buggy atm11:15
nisshhmy mouse laggs, the page scrolling laggs11:16
nisshhgeez11:16
nisshhlagg is everywhere!11:16
jfivish: well, that's because not every opinion are objective, that's like when you look a picture, you like or you don't like, there is not always formal argument, more about feeling11:16
vishnot about the latest rant , but every rant in there ;)11:17
jfiwhich one? the one about the wallpaper?:)11:17
nisshhyea11:17
leighmanfound anyone who likes that wallpaper tho? :P11:21
vishmeh , its just a wallpaper! if you dont like it you have other choices ;p11:21
vishif they took the time to write a huge lengthy rant in the comments and dont want to subscribe, it shows how much committed they actually are to make a change..11:22
jfia dev should always consider that a bad comment, is a comment, the guy has taken the time to write something, it means that he pays attention on the software11:22
nisshhstill, its pretty crappy, for a redo11:22
jfiif people write bad comments on the wallpaper that's because they use ubuntu, that's positive11:22
nisshhhmmm, true11:22
vishbut as i said , it they dont want to subscribe , it really shows how much they are really interested11:23
leighmanI think a lot of people maybe assume that commenting will subscribe them11:23
jfiI have use lp one or two months without seeing the subcribe option....11:23
leighmantrue many are just not interested in following up11:23
jfiI thought that I will be notified automaticly11:24
vishits just people want to speak their minds! and do you think that half those people really use the default wallpaper?11:24
jfivish, and about the wallpaper, I thing that it is very very very important, that's the first thing that new people see11:24
nisshhprobably not11:24
jfivish, and first impression is very important11:24
leighmanI use the Lucid default, I certainly won't be using the Maverick default :P11:25
nisshhjfi: well, for noobs it is, geeks would change it i about 10 minutes11:25
leighmanit's like Windows default wallpaper being one of those joke 'broken Vista' ones11:26
jfinisshh, of course everybody is changing the default wallpaper, even lambda users... but that's the first visual impression!11:26
vishsome people go to lengths to make up stories, that their co-worker go a migraine from using the wallpaper! Maverick isnt even released ! , which company uses pre-release software in their production environment!11:26
nisshhjfi: yea, i guess11:26
leighmanI just think the design team have done some amazing work the last year but that is not one of them!11:26
leighmanthat was quite amusing, but not to say he couldn't have used the walpaper11:27
nisshhwell, we dont even know if that wallpaper is genuine11:27
nisshhthe new maverick theme is better than lucids though11:27
nisshhthats one good thing at least11:27
vishyea11:27
jfisomebody to confirm #625371 ? I am ready to help compiling the small programm to reproduce the issue:)11:51
gorillabug 62537111:52
ubot2Launchpad bug 625371 in indicator-application "app_indicator_set_status does not change the application indicator icon (affects: 1) (heat: 24)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/62537111:52
gorillajfi: that description isn't good.11:52
jfigorilla, ha.. why? I am ready to improve it!11:53
gorillajfi: I was going to object to the underscores but it's correct.11:54
jfigorilla, yes, that's the name of the C function in the lib, you can see it in /usr/include/libappindicator-0.1/libappindicator/app-indicator.h11:55
jfiI have double checked, it is correct11:56
gorillaYep... just looks odd.11:56
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penguin42can anyone suggest what to do with bug 62516912:50
ubot2Launchpad bug 625169 in ubuntu "ubuntu server 10.04amd64 fails to boot after installation on lvm+raid5 (affects: 1) (heat: 3142)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/62516912:50
penguin42it's a pretty nasty failure , but the reporter is saying he thinks the culmination of 3 other bugs12:50
penguin42it doesn't seem right to dupe it to any one of them12:51
simarmicahg: hi14:20
devildanteam I the only one who has too much timeout problems with lp? :p14:21
simarmicahg: i hope you can see this .. i have queries there.14:21
simarhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/62585314:21
ubot2Launchpad bug 625853 in firefox (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "The Google Maps API server rejected you request. The "Client" parameter specified in the request is invalid (dup-of: 624981)" [Low,Invalid]14:21
ubot2Launchpad bug 624981 in launchpad-registry "The Google Maps API server rejected your request (affects: 26) (dups: 5) (heat: 134)" [Critical,Fix committed]14:21
simardevildante: i hope you are also affected with the bug.. is it same14:22
simardevildante: see link14:22
devildantesimar: yes, this is bugging me too14:22
simardevildante: what else you get?14:23
devildantesimar: everyone is affected14:23
simardevildante: ya14:23
devildantesimar: apart from that, only the usual timeout errors :p14:23
simardevildante: no i'm sure i dinnt get any timeout errors ...14:24
simardevildante: launchpad seems to turn old now :P14:25
devildantesimar: not always14:25
devildantesimar: but it's annoying when you get it14:25
simarsense: hey r u there ..14:25
devildantesimar: even more annoying on the edge server14:25
sensehello simar14:25
yofelwell, I get a lot of timeouts, but I'm using edge14:25
yofelnote: edge has a shorter timeout limit than production14:26
simardevildante: ya .. atleast i have got a taste of it sometimes before ;-)14:26
penguin42it seems OK for me at the moment14:26
simarsense: heya ... how were u?14:26
devildanteyofel: yeah I know ;)14:26
simarsense: how were you holidays ..14:27
sensesimar: They were great, thanks for askin. How have you been? Busy with bug fixing?14:27
simarsense: ya, but now a days i got more busy with actual life in university..14:28
sensesimar: Ah, real life is calling.14:29
simarsense: ya sure :P14:29
simarsense: sense: i'm trying to see something in security team.. some testing as of now.14:29
senseok14:29
senseWide interests. :)14:29
simarsense: ya ..14:29
simarsense: i have got one of my mentees in touchpad area..14:30
sense:)14:30
simarsense: so you can expect some good support there ;-))14:30
senseGood!14:32
simarsense: though i'm now in bug control but i still get some issues in triaging sometimes ..14:32
simarsense: here is one https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/62585314:32
ubot2Launchpad bug 625853 in firefox (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "The Google Maps API server rejected you request. The "Client" parameter specified in the request is invalid (dup-of: 624981)" [Low,Invalid]14:32
ubot2Launchpad bug 624981 in launchpad-registry "The Google Maps API server rejected your request (affects: 26) (dups: 5) (heat: 134)" [Critical,Fix committed]14:32
simarsense: i hope you are still there for my querries :P14:33
sensesimar: Of course, let me take a look.14:33
simarsense: :--)))14:33
sensesimar: I'll answer your questions here.14:34
simarsense: ok14:34
sensesimar: The Launchpad Registry is a separate project on Launchpad. Therefore you cannot report bugs against it using Apport, which only reports bugs for the Ubuntu project.14:35
senseAlso, you cannot change the affected package to another project, because that is a different thing.14:35
senseYou can only change to a package in the distribution.14:35
yofelthere was a bug open about that as that *should* be made possible :/ (it is possible for questions)14:36
simarsense: ok .. do you mean i try to change package from firefox to launchpad-registry it will fail??14:37
senseyofel: Yeah14:37
sensesimar: Yes, because 'launchpad-registry' is not a source package inside the Ubuntu distribution project, but a separate project.14:37
simarok i'm more clear now ..14:38
yofelsimar: there is a 'File a bug' button on the main page of every project launchpad.net/<project> - it's just that the ubuntu one redirects to the wiki page for normal users14:39
simarsense: so this can justify when we see different projects like xserver-xorg-input-udev in Lucid and xserver-xorg-input-udev in Karmic  when it affects both or one of them ..14:39
simaryofel ok.14:40
sensesimar: That are not projects, but source packages. Distribution projects like Ubuntu differ from regular projects like Launchpad Registry in that they have source packages. Regular projects don't.14:40
simarsense: ok14:41
simarsense: Thanks .. :-))14:43
senseYou're welcome.14:43
simarsense: :)14:45
drew2121micahg: even though bug 18995 needs to be handled upstream, can i still try developing a fix for it? and just post the patch upstream?14:53
ubot2Launchpad bug 18995 in mozilla-thunderbird (Ubuntu) (and 5 other projects) "[MASTER] "Open With" dialog not user-friendly (affects: 48) (dups: 17) (heat: 373)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1899514:53
devildanteCan someone triage bug 503041?14:54
ubot2Launchpad bug 503041 in xserver-xorg-input-evdev (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Mouse lags while moving it and clicking any keys (affects: 3) (heat: 18)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/50304114:54
* drew2121 looking14:55
drew2121it looks like its being handled upstream14:57
devildantedrew2121: it's me who reported the bug upstream14:58
penguin42drew2121: There is nothing that stops you looking at and fixing a bug in upstream; of course you'll have to persuade the upstream guys to take it14:58
devildantebut is this related to this bug being triaged? :p15:01
drew2121devildante: no...15:01
drew2121devildante: if its reported upstream and linked to the upstream tracker its "triaged"15:02
devildanteso can someone mark it as Triaged?15:02
ari-tczew!weekend | devildante15:03
ubot2devildante: It's a weekend. Often on weekends the paid developers and a lot of the community may not be around to answer your question. Please be patient, wait longer than you normally would or try again during the working week.15:03
devildanteari-tczew, I know :)15:04
ari-tczewextra15:04
drew2121devildante: you cant mark upstream tasks as triaged15:07
devildantedrew2121: I'm talking about the ubuntu package15:08
drew2121devildante: OH! I'm not familiar with xorg, I'll wait for one of the more familiar Xorg bugcontrol members to judge wether  its triaged or not.15:11
devildantedrew2121: okay :)15:12
drew2121devildante: sorry, i worded that terribly =P. And i was under the assumption that you wanted me to mark the upstream task triaged =P15:13
devildantedrew2121: nah, I'm no beginner15:14
drew2121lol, i still am, I'm really only familiar with firefox bugs, even then i still feel like there is tons to learn =)15:14
drew2121devildante: why haven't you applied to bugcontrol yet if you're so experienced?15:15
devildantedrew2121: but I'm also no expert :p15:15
devildantemaybe later15:15
drew2121devildante: you dont need to be an expert =P, its whenever you feel comfortable marking bugs triaged =)15:16
* drew2121 <----- Prime example15:16
devildantehmm...15:16
* yofel was a bugsquad member for half a year until hggdh bugged him to finally apply to BC :P15:16
drew2121haha =P15:16
devildanteif you bug me enough, I'll apply ;)15:17
yofelyou really just need some experience and have to understand the general policy15:17
* vish too similar to yofel, dint apply until someone said 'stop bothering me with status' you know it already! ;p15:17
devildantemeh15:18
drew2121i've been triaging bugs on and off since October in 200915:18
yofelvish: yeah I remember that, we did apply at the same time iirc :D15:18
devildanteokay, I'll apply15:18
devildantetoday or tomorrow :)15:19
vishyofel: hehe, yeah.. i think it was hggdh who pushed me to apply too! , i think he just got fed up with us :D15:19
drew2121lol15:19
* penguin42 should do the bugsquad thing at some point rather than just doing flyby triaging15:19
devildantepenguin42, yes, you should15:20
vishdrew2121: hey, are you considering mentoring?  there are a few members who have applied they are in the same time slot as yours, but since ddecator is MIA , there is no one to take care ;)15:21
drew2121vish: I'm actually on my way out, we can talk later about my availability, because my times has changed a little bit, i need to update my wiki page.15:22
penguin42devildante: Maybe next time I have a week off to spend some proper time on it15:23
vishkermiac: i tried ^ :D ... so stlsaint might have to wait for drew2121's reply .. ;)15:23
vishdrew2121: np.. ;)15:23
* devildante finally finished closing bugs in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/2010070815:33
devildantevish, thanks for triaging ;)15:36
vishyw..15:36
penguin42does anyone know where the source for the daily kernel builds comes from - is it in a git/bzr somewhere?15:39
yofelwe have daily build kernels?15:41
penguin42yofel: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/daily/15:42
yofelhm, not sure, maybe they're on http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git somewhere15:43
penguin42ah, yeh, it looks like that comes from one of those repos15:47
* hggdh considers vish absolutelty correct -- apply for BC, and bother us on something really important (not just to change status)15:48
hggdh:-)15:48
vishyofel: see^ :D15:49
yofelright :)15:49
micahgsimar: I duped your bug and the fix has been committed, what more is there?16:15
micahgdrew2121: well, you can try, but it's not a papercut16:15
simarmicahg: nothing .. i cleared all remaining issues here  ..thanks though16:19
micahgsimar: so, to answer your questions, launchpad-registry is not part of Ubuntu, hence you can't use ubuntu-bug, and that should answer question 2 as well since there's a bug open for malone (launchpad bugs) about moving tasks16:19
micahgsimar: bug 80902 is why I had to add another task16:23
ubot2Launchpad bug 80902 in malone "Can't refile bug report from project to distribution, or vice versa (affects: 5) (dups: 4) (heat: 15)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/8090216:23
* devildante will be afk for a while16:41
devildanteaye, someone marked bug 1 as Invalid! fortunately, Bilal was fast enough :)18:20
ubot2Launchpad bug 1 in tilix (and 18 other projects) "Microsoft has a majority market share (affects: 557) (heat: 2856)" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/118:20
penguin42haha18:23
drew2121vish: Alright, i'm back and i have updated my availablities to my current class/work schedule19:26
drew2121micahg: i know, i wanted to do it as a school project for my honors class... i would spend some serious time on it =), as it would have to be a completed working implementation, requires at least 4 hours a week of work...19:27
micahgdrew2121: have you tested ff4.0 to see if it's in there?19:27
drew2121micahg: no...19:28
drew2121let me boot my VM19:28
drew2121bah my VM is way outdated... how do i specify newer versions from the ubuntu repos?19:29
micahgdrew2121: use testdrive?19:32
drew2121micahg: i already have my VM set up though, can i use test drive to just install the FF4.0 packages19:34
micahgdrew2121: no19:34
micahgdrew2121: why not just upgrade?19:34
micahgdrew2121: what do you mean specify new versions?19:34
drew2121i want to know how to test firefox 4.0, do i need to install it from source?19:35
micahgdrew2121: ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa19:35
drew2121thanks19:35
ari-tczewdevildante: Bilal is very young, motivated and promising developer.19:41
devildanteari-tczew: yeah, he's a really cool guy :)19:42
devildanteand he's probably younger than us all19:42
ari-tczewdevildante: he needs gain a little more expierence with packaging and I'd see him in MOTU crew.19:43
devildantealthough I'm ~17 years old, so I'm not that far :p19:43
devildanteari-tczew: yeah!19:44
drew2121devildante: dont let youth make you afraid to achieve greatness... physics is a good example, Einstein made all his great findings before he was 25 =).19:45
drew2121i shouldn't say all, most...19:45
devildantedrew2121: I'll just try my best :)19:45
drew2121devildante: thats all thats required =)19:45
drew2121hopefully i'm not the only one with a bug with the maps in LP... anyone else getting a "client" parameter error?19:46
micahgdrew2121: bug 62498119:46
ubot2Launchpad bug 624981 in launchpad-registry "The Google Maps API server rejected your request (affects: 30) (dups: 6) (heat: 154)" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/62498119:46
drew2121micahg: thanks19:46
devildantedrew2121: that's plaguing us all19:47
drew2121devildante: i figured it was19:48
devildantedammit, google :p19:48
* penguin42 would have thought someone would have just quickly commented out the map thing19:48
drew2121penguin42: i don't think it affects everyone, but they have added a checkbox you can use to remove it =)19:50
charlie-tcaYou have to uncheck the box everytime you access the page, though19:50
drew2121=X19:53
drew2121firefox 4.0 is called minefield?20:24
charlie-tcahmmm, does the name fit the appliction?20:25
micahgdrew2121: that's the trunk codename20:27
drew2121micahg: ok... weird =P20:27
vishdrew2121: hey, yeah, you can add yourself to the list : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/Mentors with the time you are available20:32
drew2121Lol, its different every day, but mostly nights =)20:32
vishdrew2121: heh, well, its the same way you did with ddecator ;) .. no one is available everyday..20:33
drew2121holy cow, is there a graphical editor? it looks like a mess when i try to edit it =X20:34
micahgdrew2121: for what?20:34
drew2121the bugsquad mentors list =P20:34
drew2121micahg: i figured it out... Lol I'm just lazy =D20:36
trinikronohey guys if a person attaches a patch to a buig report that fixes a problem20:36
trinikronowhat should we do with it20:36
trinikronoask them to send it upstream?20:37
drew2121trinikrono: bug #?20:37
trinikronohey drew2121 bug 23604620:38
ubot2Launchpad bug 236046 in checkgmail (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "checkgmail tray background colour cannot be changed (affects: 27) (heat: 144)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/23604620:38
drew2121You can send it upstream for them since there is an upstream task, but I would refer credit to Corona. I'm not sure really if it applies though, i'm not familiar with the checkgmail package...20:41
trinikronoyou can install it :D20:41
drew2121trinikrono: haha, maybe later =D20:41
trinikronoits just to tell you when you get a new gmail20:41
trinikronowithout logging in all the time20:42
drew2121i use thunderbird =), and i check it often20:42
trinikronodrew2121: lemme ask you something20:42
trinikronoyou ever had to try to track a memory leak?20:42
micahgtrinikrono: you should try to make sure to use dep-3: http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep3/20:42
trinikronousing valgrind20:42
drew2121trinikrono: nope =X20:42
trinikronomicahg: O.o20:43
drew2121vish: I added myself to the list20:43
trinikrono micahg so we should send the patch to the debian package?20:44
drew2121why is my name drew2121?!20:45
micahgtrinikrono: you can check if Debian has a similar bug filed, if so, then yes, otherwise, just send straight upstrea,20:46
micahg*upstream20:46
trinikronooo i go in the debian bug tracker then20:46
=== drew2121 is now known as drew212
trinikronomicahg: well its not in the debian bug tracker20:52
drew212thanks micahg for hooking trinikrono up =)20:52
vishdrew212: You've Got Mail! ;)20:56
drew212vish: sweet =)20:56
micahgdrew212: np20:57
drew212micahg: my professor approved my honors project: fixing bug 18995 =)20:58
ubot2Launchpad bug 18995 in mozilla-thunderbird (Ubuntu) (and 5 other projects) "[MASTER] "Open With" dialog not user-friendly (affects: 48) (dups: 17) (heat: 387)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1899520:58
drew212hopefully this will get my good experience in the triaging/bugfixing process and put me in a position to fix more FF bugs =)20:59
trinikronowhen a bug title has failed to update/upgrade returned exit status 221:55
trinikronoshould the bug be filed against the package or update manager21:55
lifelessusually the package21:56
stlsaintvish: :D22:38
* penguin42 looks at a backtrace and wonders wth to report it against; it's an abort in an X library while running Synergy, but the assert is very odd22:53
=== JanC_ is now known as JanC
* stlsaint patiently awaits the contact from drew212 ;)23:35

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