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| glickster | hey can i use debian packages in ubuntu? | 06:59 |
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| lucidfox | vish, regarding the wallpaper: you aren't making the distribution for art critics, you're making it for a diverse community of mostly-casual users | 07:05 |
| lucidfox | Critics might appreciate your delightful combination of orange and purple, praising you for the bold and unorthodox artistic choices. | 07:06 |
| maco | glickster: source packages, yes. binary ones...no guarantees | 07:07 |
| lucidfox | As it stands, the users' gut reaction is "ew", and asking them to go any more elaborate than that would be like asking a non-technical user to write kernel patches. | 07:07 |
| glickster | maco, libapache2-mod-wsgi? | 07:08 |
| * maco is not a dictionary | 07:08 | |
| persia | glickster, `apt-cache showsrc libapache2-mod-wsgi` | 07:09 |
| micahg | glickster: if 3.3 has something we need, you should request a sync and provide a reason why it should get into maverick | 07:09 |
| micahg | glickster: to answer your original question, since it's sync'd in maverick, it'll probably work, but no guarantees | 07:11 |
| glickster | because 2.8 is full of bugs? | 07:12 |
| micahg | glickster: maverick has 3.2 | 07:12 |
| * micahg isn't sure what the backport policy is for apache modules | 07:14 | |
| micahg | glickster: you can try requesting a backport from maverick | 07:15 |
| glickster | i just downloaded it from debian sid, it appears to be working | 07:15 |
| vish | lucidfox: seriously, what is the bug about? ;) | 07:43 |
| vish | anyway , *i* dint make the wallpaper , so just saying it looks ugly is not a bug | 07:43 |
| vish | ugliness lies in the eye of the beholder ;) | 07:43 |
| micahg | if a package has the i386 binary in main, is it ok to request the amd64 be promoted as well? | 08:41 |
| lifeless | they should both be shouldn't they ? | 08:46 |
| micahg | lifeless: I would think so, just wanted to be sure :) | 08:46 |
| micahg | lifeless: so I should file an AA bug? | 08:49 |
| micahg | seems like an oversight will file new bug and reference MIT | 08:50 |
| micahg | *MIR | 08:50 |
| persia | micahg, Most of the time, you can get a binary promotion with an archive-admin request here, assuming the source is in main. | 09:24 |
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| penguin42 | Hi yofel | 12:40 |
| yofel | hey | 12:40 |
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| Yaron-Heb_ | Hey Guys, does anyone know when is the translation deadline for Maverick? | 15:53 |
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| c_korn | Yaron-Heb_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaverickReleaseSchedule | 16:00 |
| Yaron-Heb_ | c_korn: thanks, you're awesome! | 16:00 |
| micahg | persia: k, I filed the bug anyway, if there's no response by tomorrow morning my time, I'll ask in here | 16:16 |
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| Gujs | hello guys | 18:06 |
| Gujs | i would like to rebuild lucid kernel in my ppa | 18:06 |
| Gujs | but it always fails | 18:06 |
| Gujs | i just downloaded source with apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r) | 18:06 |
| Gujs | and the patch it with one usb hid patch | 18:07 |
| Gujs | and change changelog | 18:07 |
| Gujs | and debuild -S | 18:07 |
| Gujs | and upload it | 18:07 |
| Gujs | is this ok | 18:07 |
| Gujs | because it fails to build | 18:08 |
| penguin42 | what error does it give? | 18:09 |
| Gujs | here is my ppa https://launchpad.net/~gregor-fuis/+archive/xbmc-pvr/+packages | 18:10 |
| penguin42 | Gujs: Well that is failing in usb/core/hcd.c so it looks like the change is broke | 18:11 |
| Gujs | strange is that it is not the same for i386 and amd64 builds | 18:12 |
| Gujs | strange | 18:13 |
| penguin42 | yeh that is weird | 18:13 |
| Gujs | becasu I patch just these files hid-ids.h and hid-topseed.c | 18:14 |
| Gujs | because | 18:14 |
| Gujs | :D | 18:14 |
| Gujs | I would just like to add a path for BTC Remote | 18:15 |
| Gujs | the one at the bottom https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/95481/ | 18:15 |
| penguin42 | Gujs: You'll have to find the line its actually giving the error about | 18:17 |
| Gujs | "/build/buildd/linux-2.6.32-24.41/kernel/power/snapshot.c:1546: error: expected expression before ';' token" | 18:20 |
| Gujs | this is strange | 18:20 |
| penguin42 | Gujs: Some of that code is ifdef'd (I've not got 2.6.32 in front of me) - in 2.6.35 CONFIG_ARCH_HIBERNATION_HEADER is set for x86_64 but not 32 | 18:22 |
| Gujs | debian build files in ubuntu kernel are to much for me for now, I just wanted to be sure if the I am doing it the right way | 18:27 |
| Gujs | maybe I should try it with latest git 2.6.32 | 18:27 |
| penguin42 | Gujs: I'd try building it locally rather than ppaing it | 18:28 |
| Gujs | I would like to ppa it because I have atom based net top which is running ubuntu i386 and I my desktop on which I am building it is running ubuntu amd64 | 18:30 |
| Gujs | can I build i368 on amd64? | 18:31 |
| penguin42 | I'm not sure | 18:34 |
| penguin42 | I'm fairly you can do it for a kernel build, not sure how to do it for packages | 18:34 |
| geser | can the archive admin, who rejected my uploaded rebuilds (haskell-{haskore,hjscript}) tell my why they got rejected? | 18:50 |
| Gujs | running debuild on local computer gives me the same error | 18:52 |
| Gujs | now I am building it with AUTOBUILD=1 fakeroot debian/rules binary-debs | 18:52 |
| Laney | geser: presumably because I uploaded those ones too ;) | 18:53 |
| penguin42 | Gujs: That makes it a lot easier to debug | 18:53 |
| Gujs | I know | 18:54 |
| Gujs | but it is strange that it gives build error, because it is source from ubuntu repo | 18:54 |
| penguin42 | Gujs: Maybe built using older tools or a different config | 18:56 |
| Gujs | I use all default tools and configs from 10.04, but I will keep trying this until I succeed | 19:00 |
| Gujs | AUTOBUILD=1 fakeroot debian/rules binary-debs gives me the same error | 19:02 |
| Gujs | I will try to get git now | 19:03 |
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| * penguin42 is confused - how does Pulse get perms to open the sound card? the pulse user is a member of audio, but I'm not and the perms on /dev/snd/* are root:audio rw by user and group but not other; pa isn't setuid or setgid | 19:58 | |
| * penguin42 suspects some consolekit/policykit magic ? | 19:58 | |
| crimsun_ | it's via consolekit. | 20:02 |
| crimsun_ | the active seat is automatically granted @audio permission | 20:02 |
| geser | penguin42: getfacl /dev/snd/* | 20:03 |
| crimsun_ | see ck-list-sessions and getfacl /dev/snd/* | 20:03 |
| penguin42 | ooh, yes I see the user:dg:rw- | 20:04 |
| crimsun_ | also, being a member of @audio is /bad/ as of 9.10 | 20:04 |
| crimsun_ | [for Ubuntu, that is] | 20:04 |
| crimsun_ | it's bad for Kubuntu as of 10.10 | 20:04 |
| * penguin42 had tried lsattr which gave an error and didn't know getfacl | 20:05 | |
| penguin42 | crimsun_: SO why is the pulse user a member of audio ? | 20:06 |
| crimsun_ | hysterical raisins | 20:06 |
| crimsun_ | someone should probably remove that at some point, but it's more cosmetic than anything | 20:07 |
| penguin42 | ok, that makes more sense | 20:07 |
| penguin42 | crimsun_: I found this out trying to help someone who wasn't running gnome; but console-kit should still give them perms on those files shouldn't it? Would that only happen from gdm or would a non-X login also set that up? | 20:08 |
| crimsun_ | penguin42: assuming "nome running GNOME" also implies "did not have PA installed", then said user isn't relying on ConsoleKit for @audio permissions | 20:09 |
| crimsun_ | s/nome/not/ | 20:09 |
| penguin42 | crimsun_: Are PA and the use of consolekit related? i.e. if they aren't using PA should consolekit still add the user perms on it so that non-PA stuff works? | 20:10 |
| crimsun_ | penguin42: in Ubuntu, PA requires ConsoleKit, yes. | 20:10 |
| penguin42 | crimsun_: But what about the opposite? i.e. to use a non-gnome system without PA will CK still set perms up? | 20:11 |
| crimsun_ | penguin42: not that I'm aware | 20:11 |
| penguin42 | hmm actually thinking about it, his case was weirder than that - he had PA but PA couldn't open /dev/snd/* but he could do stuff as root, I wonder if his CK stuff was borked | 20:12 |
| crimsun_ | that's a probable starting point. There is also a possible regression in lucid-updates' linux 2.6.32-24.* that doesn't seem restricted to audio. | 20:14 |
| crimsun_ | David H (diwic) is chasing that one. | 20:15 |
| penguin42 | ah ok | 20:16 |
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