=== steve|m1 is now known as steve|m [06:59] hey can i use debian packages in ubuntu? [07:05] vish, regarding the wallpaper: you aren't making the distribution for art critics, you're making it for a diverse community of mostly-casual users [07:06] Critics might appreciate your delightful combination of orange and purple, praising you for the bold and unorthodox artistic choices. [07:07] glickster: source packages, yes. binary ones...no guarantees [07:07] As it stands, the users' gut reaction is "ew", and asking them to go any more elaborate than that would be like asking a non-technical user to write kernel patches. [07:08] maco, libapache2-mod-wsgi? [07:08] * maco is not a dictionary [07:09] glickster, `apt-cache showsrc libapache2-mod-wsgi` [07:09] glickster: if 3.3 has something we need, you should request a sync and provide a reason why it should get into maverick [07:11] glickster: to answer your original question, since it's sync'd in maverick, it'll probably work, but no guarantees [07:12] because 2.8 is full of bugs? [07:12] glickster: maverick has 3.2 [07:14] * micahg isn't sure what the backport policy is for apache modules [07:15] glickster: you can try requesting a backport from maverick [07:15] i just downloaded it from debian sid, it appears to be working [07:43] lucidfox: seriously, what is the bug about? ;) [07:43] anyway , *i* dint make the wallpaper , so just saying it looks ugly is not a bug [07:43] ugliness lies in the eye of the beholder ;) [08:41] if a package has the i386 binary in main, is it ok to request the amd64 be promoted as well? [08:46] they should both be shouldn't they ? [08:46] lifeless: I would think so, just wanted to be sure :) [08:49] lifeless: so I should file an AA bug? [08:50] seems like an oversight will file new bug and reference MIT [08:50] *MIR [09:24] micahg, Most of the time, you can get a binary promotion with an archive-admin request here, assuming the source is in main. === bilalakhtar_ is now known as bilalakhtar === bilalakhtar_ is now known as bilalakhtar === yofel_ is now known as yofel [12:40] Hi yofel [12:40] hey === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [15:53] Hey Guys, does anyone know when is the translation deadline for Maverick? === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [16:00] Yaron-Heb_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaverickReleaseSchedule [16:00] c_korn: thanks, you're awesome! [16:16] persia: k, I filed the bug anyway, if there's no response by tomorrow morning my time, I'll ask in here === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [18:06] hello guys [18:06] i would like to rebuild lucid kernel in my ppa [18:06] but it always fails [18:06] i just downloaded source with apt-get source linux-image-$(uname -r) [18:07] and the patch it with one usb hid patch [18:07] and change changelog [18:07] and debuild -S [18:07] and upload it [18:07] is this ok [18:08] because it fails to build [18:09] what error does it give? [18:10] here is my ppa https://launchpad.net/~gregor-fuis/+archive/xbmc-pvr/+packages [18:11] Gujs: Well that is failing in usb/core/hcd.c so it looks like the change is broke [18:12] strange is that it is not the same for i386 and amd64 builds [18:13] strange [18:13] yeh that is weird [18:14] becasu I patch just these files hid-ids.h and hid-topseed.c [18:14] because [18:14] :D [18:15] I would just like to add a path for BTC Remote [18:15] the one at the bottom https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/95481/ [18:17] Gujs: You'll have to find the line its actually giving the error about [18:20] "/build/buildd/linux-2.6.32-24.41/kernel/power/snapshot.c:1546: error: expected expression before ';' token" [18:20] this is strange [18:22] Gujs: Some of that code is ifdef'd (I've not got 2.6.32 in front of me) - in 2.6.35 CONFIG_ARCH_HIBERNATION_HEADER is set for x86_64 but not 32 [18:27] debian build files in ubuntu kernel are to much for me for now, I just wanted to be sure if the I am doing it the right way [18:27] maybe I should try it with latest git 2.6.32 [18:28] Gujs: I'd try building it locally rather than ppaing it [18:30] I would like to ppa it because I have atom based net top which is running ubuntu i386 and I my desktop on which I am building it is running ubuntu amd64 [18:31] can I build i368 on amd64? [18:34] I'm not sure [18:34] I'm fairly you can do it for a kernel build, not sure how to do it for packages [18:50] can the archive admin, who rejected my uploaded rebuilds (haskell-{haskore,hjscript}) tell my why they got rejected? [18:52] running debuild on local computer gives me the same error [18:52] now I am building it with AUTOBUILD=1 fakeroot debian/rules binary-debs [18:53] geser: presumably because I uploaded those ones too ;) [18:53] Gujs: That makes it a lot easier to debug [18:54] I know [18:54] but it is strange that it gives build error, because it is source from ubuntu repo [18:56] Gujs: Maybe built using older tools or a different config [19:00] I use all default tools and configs from 10.04, but I will keep trying this until I succeed [19:02] AUTOBUILD=1 fakeroot debian/rules binary-debs gives me the same error [19:03] I will try to get git now === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [19:58] * penguin42 is confused - how does Pulse get perms to open the sound card? the pulse user is a member of audio, but I'm not and the perms on /dev/snd/* are root:audio rw by user and group but not other; pa isn't setuid or setgid [19:58] * penguin42 suspects some consolekit/policykit magic ? [20:02] it's via consolekit. [20:02] the active seat is automatically granted @audio permission [20:03] penguin42: getfacl /dev/snd/* [20:03] see ck-list-sessions and getfacl /dev/snd/* [20:04] ooh, yes I see the user:dg:rw- [20:04] also, being a member of @audio is /bad/ as of 9.10 [20:04] [for Ubuntu, that is] [20:04] it's bad for Kubuntu as of 10.10 [20:05] * penguin42 had tried lsattr which gave an error and didn't know getfacl [20:06] crimsun_: SO why is the pulse user a member of audio ? [20:06] hysterical raisins [20:07] someone should probably remove that at some point, but it's more cosmetic than anything [20:07] ok, that makes more sense [20:08] crimsun_: I found this out trying to help someone who wasn't running gnome; but console-kit should still give them perms on those files shouldn't it? Would that only happen from gdm or would a non-X login also set that up? [20:09] penguin42: assuming "nome running GNOME" also implies "did not have PA installed", then said user isn't relying on ConsoleKit for @audio permissions [20:09] s/nome/not/ [20:10] crimsun_: Are PA and the use of consolekit related? i.e. if they aren't using PA should consolekit still add the user perms on it so that non-PA stuff works? [20:10] penguin42: in Ubuntu, PA requires ConsoleKit, yes. [20:11] crimsun_: But what about the opposite? i.e. to use a non-gnome system without PA will CK still set perms up? [20:11] penguin42: not that I'm aware [20:12] hmm actually thinking about it, his case was weirder than that - he had PA but PA couldn't open /dev/snd/* but he could do stuff as root, I wonder if his CK stuff was borked [20:14] that's a probable starting point. There is also a possible regression in lucid-updates' linux 2.6.32-24.* that doesn't seem restricted to audio. [20:15] David H (diwic) is chasing that one. 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