[07:16] <elky> pleia2, do you know where one can get the wordpress stuff, I'd like to knock that out of the way before UDS
[07:42] <pleia2> elky: wordpress stuff? the ubuntu theme or..?
[07:42] <elky> yeah
[07:42] <pleia2> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-website
[07:43] <pleia2> are we doing a blog this cycle?
[07:43] <czajkowski> aloha
[07:43] <pleia2> I thought we were just doing a splash page for ubuntu-women.org
[07:43] <elky> well AIUI that's on the blueprint
[07:44] <pleia2> that links to our resources
[07:44] <pleia2> I don't think we actually committed to the blog
[07:45] <pleia2> (technically what we have now is a splash page that links to resources since everything is on the wiki now, but we want something prettier :))
[07:45] <elky> hmm. where's the notes?
[07:45] <pleia2> lemme dig up my last email about it
[07:46] <pleia2> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-women/2010-June/002865.html
[07:46] <pleia2> #3 is somewhat uncertain, the default ubuntu theme is kinda boring TBH
[07:47] <elky> "theme" tends to mean it's on a CMS-y kind of thing
[07:47] <pleia2> I wasn't sure where the web team was going when I wrote that, I didn't realize it was going to be mostly an ubuntu.com clone
[07:47] <pleia2> yeah, I was using theme more generally
[07:47] <pleia2> what I meant was a "style" I guess
[07:48] <pleia2> something we can also eventually apply to the wiki and planet
[07:48] <elky> well I'm not really wanting to leave it as a strict clone, but they've audited that code, me changing the colours and stuff isn't going to break that
[07:48] <elky> that said, our logo is the same colours :(
[07:48] <pleia2> did you want to change ubuntu-women.org into a blog? or was this a separate blog.ubuntu-women.org ?
[07:49] <elky> pleia2, i'm not sure now. all i know is there's an action point against my name and I'm now confused as to what I'm supposed to be doing.
[07:49] <czajkowski> pleia2 you're up late
[07:49] <pleia2> czajkowski: yeah :( I need to get to sleep
[07:49] <rww> lies, it's not even midnight!
[07:49] <pleia2> it's been a long day, after a long week
[07:50] <pleia2> elky: I'm pretty sure at UDS we decided that action item was "splash page for ubuntu-women.org with blurb about the project, and links to stuff"
[07:50] <maco> czajkowski: no, youre up ungodly early. its still o-dark-thirty there!
[07:50] <czajkowski> pleia2 i' stoll in bed. not getting up :)
[07:51] <czajkowski> pleia2 re action item i think yer right
[07:51] <elky> pleia2, then what we have is already that. I'm not particularly wanting to do something that's going to get thrown away in 6 weeks time
[07:51] <pleia2> elky: but what we have is really old and ugly and doesn't have our logo or anything
[07:51] <pleia2> all we wanted to do is refresh it, not a huge project
[07:51] <maco> we just need some css and a <img> tag
[07:52] <elky> have you got a list of what content I need to build this around?
[07:52] <elky> as in precisely what content? Is it a ream of text, a few phrases? is it a huge stack of links or <1/2doz
[07:52] <pleia2> it's pretty much the same site as now, but prettier, links to the same things, probably needs a rewritten intro blurb
[07:53] <pleia2> (the percentages are out-dated, I'm sure more folks have ideas for wording)
[07:55] <pleia2> I'm not violently opposed to the idea of turning ubuntu-women.org into a blog-style site, it's just not what we had discussed
[07:56] <elky> pleia2, I'm mostly looking to maintainability for whatever. wordpress can do splash pages too, and lets anyone who knows how to wysiwyg deal with the text
[07:56] <pleia2> we need to consider hosting too, we currently don't have shared hosting for wordpress
[07:57] <elky> where are we currently hosted?
[07:57] <pleia2> canonical
[07:57] <pleia2> they don't offer wordpress
[07:57] <maco> i thought they were switching to wordpress?
[07:57] <maco> cuz arent the ubuntu-us things all going to it?
[07:57] <pleia2> ubuntu-us things?
[07:58] <maco> you sent out an email recently saying all *.ubuntu-us.org was going to wordpress, right?
[07:58] <valorie> afai recall, we were going to wait on their decision/timing of wordpress
[07:58] <maco> and looking for themes?
[07:58] <pleia2> no, just ubuntu-us.org
[07:58] <maco> ubuntu-us.org is canonical-hosted, i thought
[07:58] <maco> oh
[07:58] <pleia2> nope
[07:58] <pleia2> it's hosted on a donated linode for ubuntupennsylvania.org
[07:59] <pleia2> valorie: yeah, I think we were shooting for discussing it during the -N cycle
[07:59] <elky> pleia2, do we need space of our own? I mean realistically?
[07:59] <pleia2> elky: not sure what you're asking
[08:00] <elky> pleia2, i mean are we being held back from doing what we need to do?
[08:00] <pleia2> I don't think so
[08:00] <pleia2> if we decided we wanted to move forward with a wordpress blog then yes, we need to find hosting
[08:01] <pleia2> but we never decided that, all we want is a simple splash page right now
[08:01] <czajkowski> splash pagw +1 pleasw
[08:01] <elky> we should probably draw up a plan for the discussion soonish then
[08:01] <elky> for the moving forward beyond a static splash page
[08:02] <elky> since static pages are kind of why our site got to be out of date
[08:02] <pleia2> I figure the blog will just be another resource we link from the splash page
[08:02] <czajkowski> why woukd,qe nwwd a blog when we havw our planet anyway ?
[08:02] <pleia2> it's only a single page, we moved the rest of the content to the wiki so it won't  get outdated :)
[08:02] <czajkowski> sorry typing on phone
[08:03] <czajkowski> pleia2 makws good sense
[08:03] <pleia2> AlanBell actually suggested we just point ubuntu-women.org to the wiki and retheme *that*
[08:03] <valorie> right, as I remember, the only static page would be the splash
[08:03] <pleia2> valorie: *nod*
[08:03] <czajkowski> and what was agrewded at uds so no point kin changing now
[08:03] <valorie> lol
[08:03] <pleia2> czajkowski: yeah, I'm inclined to agree (except without typos)
[08:03] <valorie> awesome typing, czajkowski
[08:04] <pleia2> I need to hit the sack, I have a busy day tomorrow
[08:04] <czajkowski> i'm in with back pain
[08:04] <pleia2> elky: feel free to drop me an email with some thoughts
[08:04] <elky> i'm talking about /next/ uds. i can see more uses for the space. a calendar for instance. you want to  maintain that in a wiki then kudos to you, have fun on it
[08:04] <maco> google calendar?
[08:05] <maco> i dontt hink those can go in wiki
[08:05] <elky> maco, if you can stand their timezone funk
[08:05] <pleia2> good point, I don't think we can embed our calendar in the wiki
[08:05] <elky> pleia2, also, announcements, rather than in a collection of table rows on the main wiki page
[08:05] <pleia2> well, I figure announcements can go on a blog if we go that route
[08:06] <pleia2> but now I'm worried we're really diverging from what the team has discussed and agreed upon
[08:06] <elky> sure, and that's my point. but why tuck the blog away to a subdomain?
[08:06] <pleia2> we should just do the splash page and next cycle go with the blog, as planned
[08:06] <elky> pleia2, no, we're throwing ideas around for /future/
[08:07] <pleia2> ok, so we're going to move forward with what we planned?
[08:07] <elky> i'll pull together something static and someone can put the text in later
[08:07] <pleia2> great :)
[08:07] <elky> but it's still a bit depressing it's only going to last a short while
[08:07] <pleia2> we can start getting ideas together for our -N blueprint any time
[08:08] <pleia2> you're assuming we're going to replace it with a blog, which hasn't been decided :(
[08:08] <elky> pleia2, i'm hoping we'll move beyond a static html page and have something more substantial, yes.
[08:09] <pleia2> anyway, if you think it's "depressing" we can reassign it
[08:09] <pleia2> I don't mind working with some art people to come up with something
[08:10] <pleia2> I don't want you to feel like you have to work on something that you think isn't worth the effort
[08:10] <elky> pleia2, all i was trying to work out was /how/ the page was going to be done. as i said before, any cms can do a splash page. i wasn't aware that we were excluded from haveing a wordpress site, since other wordpress sites are appearing
[08:10] <pleia2> yeah, a lot of teams have given up on canonical hosting
[08:11] <elky> fridge is still canonical.
[08:11] <pleia2> I dunno if canonical will offer wordpress someday, but given their record I wouldn't hold my breath (or hold up project plans) waiting
[08:11] <pleia2> I don't know what the situation with fridge is, or whether that offer will be extended to other teams
[08:11] <valorie> perhaps this issue needs to be revisited in a meetin?
[08:11] <valorie> g
[08:11] <elky> pleia2, hence what I was asking before if we were being held back.
[08:11] <pleia2> we're not being held back to do what we decided to do
[08:12] <rww> someone should create Canotical Ltd., a company for providing speedy hosting to Ubuntu teams
[08:12] <valorie> lol
[08:12] <elky> pleia2, we are if we want somethign that doesn't require commit access to update.
[08:12] <pleia2> I need to go to bed :(
[08:13] <elky> g'nite.
[08:13] <valorie> hahahah, look at this URL: http://ubuntutesting.wordpress.com/2010/08/18/love-an-upstream-project-want-it-well-tested/
[08:13] <valorie> that is a Canonical team!
[08:13] <valorie> The Desktop Testing Team
[08:13] <pleia2> just let me know if you need the splash page reassigned, I really don't want to make you feel like you have to do it if it's not worth your time (I know you're busy and talents can be used elsewhere)
[08:14]  * pleia2 sleep!
[08:14] <maco> rww++
[08:14] <valorie> sweet dreams, pleia2
[08:24] <elky> is it just me or is launchpad chucking a wobbly about https and the google maps api?
[08:24] <maco> not just you
[08:24]  * maco giggles at "chucking a wobbly"
[08:24] <maco> is that aussie?
[08:24] <valorie> it's been reported
[08:24] <elky> tell someone the cert is messed up
[08:24] <elky> yup
[08:24] <maco> or just elky?
[08:24] <valorie> I went to #launchpad last night
[08:25] <valorie> and it was in the topic
[08:25] <elky> valorie, ah thanks
[08:25] <valorie> :-)
[08:25] <elky> maco, i /think/ it's an aussie slang, yeah
[08:26] <AlanBell> brit slang too then
[08:26] <elky> AlanBell, i wasn't sure, thanks
[08:51] <AlanBell> what technically are the options for rethemeing the wiki and the planet? Do we have access to the css files?
[08:55] <AlanBell> and can we add macros to the wiki? (google calendar embedding would be simple to do as a macro)
[08:56] <rww> I'm suspicious of claims that anything in Moin could ever be simple.
[08:57] <AlanBell> s/simple/within my capability/
[09:00] <elky> i'm also not a fan of google calendar's habit of messing up timezones
[09:01] <valorie> perhaps they have a calendar plugin which takes/feeds iCal?
[09:02] <elky> im not sure what the current status of planets are. i know jdub was trying to get them to ditch planetplanet and go to something that's actually maintained, like venus
[09:04] <AlanBell> I need to look at planet software and multi-lingual support
[09:04] <AlanBell> but that is a totally separate issue
[09:05] <elky> good grief I need to reinstall this laptop
[09:06] <maco> AlanBell: look at what Riddell's been doing with Planet KDE
[09:06] <elky> it really ain't healthy.
[09:07] <rww> it's KDE, of course it isn't healthy
[09:07] <AlanBell> now now
[09:07] <valorie> !
[09:08]  * valorie gets the angry look
[09:08] <valorie> lol
[09:08] <svaksha> heh
[09:08]  * elky thwaps rww over the head, gibbs style.
[09:08]  * jussi eyes rww
[09:08] <AlanBell> maco: looks nice, lots of ajaxy stuff to turn on and off, anything in particular you were referring to?
[09:08]  * maco paints rww blue to match the wallpaper
[09:08] <rww> persecution :(
[09:09]  * rww changes name to Tobias Funke
[09:09] <AlanBell> http://twitpic.com/1z1lk4
[09:09] <vish> pff KDE is sooooo awesome!
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[09:09] <maco> AlanBell: you said multilingual
[09:09] <rww> AlanBell++
[09:09] <elky> rww, yay, now you wont get rww's identica crap!
[09:09] <AlanBell> maco: yeah, not seeing that bit?
[09:09]  * maco waits for p.k.o to load over slow network
[09:09] <rww> elky: I already changed my identi.ca to robertwall to stop getting rww's crap :(
[09:10] <maco> http://planetkde.org/es/
[09:10] <AlanBell> oh cool
[09:10] <rww> AlanBell: although, I'm unsure whether that's supposed to be advocacy or wanton destruction of Kubuntu CD
[09:11] <maco> rww: i think you should maintain @rww so that if they ever want it on identi.ca you can make them give you munnies
[09:11] <AlanBell> maco: looks like that is done as a separate instance of the planet software
[09:12] <rww> maco: I registered it and dented a link to my new URL
[09:12] <rww> s/a link to//
[09:12] <maco> oh
[09:12] <rww> in the highly unlikely scenario that anyone goes looking for my identi.ca account :\
[09:13]  * valorie goes hunting for rww's identica
[09:13] <maco> AlanBell: if you click "configure" it has "spanish language blogs" and then you click that and a tick shows up next to it and then... umm... i assume then you get spanish mixed in with the english
[09:14] <rww> the most interesting thing about it is that I occasionally get bored and nuke anything older than a month off it.
[09:14] <maco> yes my assumption is right
[09:15] <maco> if i scroll far enough, i then see "Cómo Configurar KMail para gestionar cuentas de correo Gmail con IMAP y Disconnected IMAP" after ive toggled spanish to on
[09:15] <maco> oh um im looking at normal planetkde.org right now
[09:15] <AlanBell> oh yes
[09:17] <AlanBell> bet I know how that was done! I think it is two instances still, but the main one subscribes to the feed of the /es one
[09:17] <AlanBell> which is kind of clever
[09:18] <elky> ok, sshfs and bzr should not be causing this much strain on a dual core laptop with 4gb ram.
[09:47] <AlanBell> http://paste.ubuntu.com/485335/ I think that macro should do the trick for embedding a calendar (untested as I don't have a moin wiki set up right now)
[10:18] <AlanBell> what would be really sweet is if you are logged on to the wiki with your launchpad ID it could look up your timezone and display the calendar correctly for you, and do UTC if not logged in
[10:19] <valorie> indeed
[15:20] <elky> stupid browsershots. anyone got an IE or three around for testing?
[20:33] <pleia2> ok, I finished my identify pages to be redeveloped blueprint item \o/
[20:33] <pleia2> http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/WeShouldFix
[20:34] <pleia2> and it looks like blueprint notices are safely getting to the mailing list if your lp address is subscribed to the list, so yay :)
[20:48] <pleia2> I sent an email to the list, if we don't get any bites I'll change tactics and try some kind of "one link per week sent to the list" to get feedback
[20:55] <czajkowski> aloha
[20:55] <czajkowski> pleia2: get some sleep earlier on
[20:55] <pleia2> hehe
[20:56] <czajkowski> pleia2: mind having a look at something for me if you're free?
[20:57] <pleia2> sure
[20:57] <czajkowski> thanks sent to pm