[00:00] <Magnetro> I bought this everex laptop from craigslist
[00:00] <Magnetro> for $125.00 with the intentions of using it for school, and I have no knowledge of unbuntu so lol..
[00:01] <DasEi> Magnetro: you think you got a recent hardware ? we'll check later, so what comes up when trying via synaptic or apt ?
[00:01] <Magnetro> brb/ posting
[00:01] <DasEi> !paste
[00:02] <DasEi> :)
[00:02] <Magnetro> W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdelibs/kdelibs4c2a_3.5.9-0ubuntu7.1_i386.deb
[00:02] <Magnetro>   404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.37 80]
[00:03] <Magnetro> That's what it tells me..
[00:03] <DasEi> Magnetro: that looks like a repo not being up, see :
[00:03] <DasEi> !eol
[00:04] <DasEi> Magnetro: hardy was 8.04,  current is 10.04, but let's have a look at the specs of that thing
[00:04] <DasEi> Magnetro: sudo apt-get install hwinfo pastebinit
[00:04] <Magnetro> ok
[00:04] <Magnetro> in the command line right?
[00:05] <DasEi> Magnetro : yes
[00:05] <ocmtheory> lol
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> DasEi: Hardy isn't eol yet ;)
[00:06] <Magnetro> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
[00:06] <Magnetro>   libarts1c2a libartsc0 liblualib50 xmame-common libavahi-qt3-1 kamefu-data
[00:06] <Magnetro>   libqt3-mt-sqlite libqt3-mt liblua50 xmame-sdl
[00:06] <Magnetro> Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
[00:06] <Magnetro> The following extra packages will be installed:
[00:06] <FloodBot3> Magnetro: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:06] <Magnetro>   libhd13
[00:06] <Magnetro> sorry.
[00:07] <ocmtheory> lol we all had to start somewhere
[00:07] <Magnetro> Didn't mean to flood >.<
[00:07] <ocmtheory> magnetro: how long u been using linux?
[00:07] <DasEi> ActionParsnip: all mirros stilll fine ? april 2011 website says
[00:07] <Magnetro> some weeks lol..
[00:07] <Guest67010> هيلو
[00:08] <ocmtheory> i remember when i first learned about linux
[00:08] <Guest67010> السلام عليكم
[00:08] <ocmtheory> like 5 years ago i think
[00:08] <ocmtheory> it blew my mind
[00:08] <nakhlawi> Guest67010: go to ubuntu-arabic channel
[00:08] <Magnetro> Whatever you had me input is functioning..
[00:08] <DasEi> Magnetro : for now I suggest first set up repos, gather some more infos and then consider an distro-upgrade
[00:08] <ocmtheory> 5 years later, it still blows my mind
[00:09] <Magnetro> distro-upgrade?
[00:09] <DasEi> Magnetro: have the two packages been installed ?
[00:09] <DrDuck> Hello. If I'd like to try to gain some experience in helping with ubuntu's development, what would I need to do?
[00:09] <DasEi> !distro | magnetro
[00:09] <Magnetro> Dasei yes.
[00:09] <DrDuck> Coming from a complete beginner's perspective.
[00:09] <DasEi> Magnetro : wrong factoid above, sry
[00:09] <ActionParsnip> DasEi: should be
[00:10] <IdleOne> !contribute | DrDuck
[00:10] <DasEi> !hardy > magnetron, is a distro of ubuntu
[00:10] <DasEi> !lucid | magnetron is current one
[00:11] <Magnetro> i'm confused?
[00:11] <Magnetro> I'm 10.4?
[00:11] <DasEi> Magnetron: I hope not to
[00:11] <Magnetro> Isn't that upgraded?
[00:11] <DasEi> Magnetron: lsb_release -a
[00:11] <DasEi> ^ tells your distro
[00:12] <Magnetro> put that in the command line?
[00:12] <DasEi> yess
[00:12] <DasEi> !release
[00:13] <Magnetro> bison@gbook3:~$ lsb_release -a
[00:13] <Magnetro> No LSB modules are available.
[00:13] <Magnetro> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[00:13] <Magnetro> Description:	Ubuntu 8.04.1
[00:13] <Magnetro> Release:	8.04
[00:13] <Magnetro> Codename:	hardy
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> Magnetro: you can run:   sudo apt-get install pastebinit; lsb_release -a | pastebinit          it will output a URL. What is it?
[00:13] <DasEi> Magnetro : don't flood, so you're using hardy
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> that works too, Magnetro try to use pastebins so you dont scroll the channel
[00:14] <Magnetro> Yes i'm using hardy
[00:14] <stuckey> Hi, I'm trying to copy stuff to a usb stick but I get Permission Denied. I also can't chown or grp on the directory that it is mounted to.
[00:14] <DasEi> Magnetro : so let's try to get that hardy up one time, then gather some system information
[00:14] <stuckey> Anyone have an idea as to why that might be?
[00:15] <Magnetro> I don't understand what you're asking me to do DasEi
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> +
[00:15] <DasEi> Magnetro : I assume you use the 32 bit , in which country ?
[00:15] <nakhlawi> stuckey: that means you don't have permission to write to that directory
[00:15] <Magnetro> USA
[00:16] <DasEi> Magnetro : give me a minute to assemble a sources.list
[00:16] <ActionParsnip> stuckey: you can run: gksudo nautilus    and get write / read access. You should be able to do it as your user
[00:16] <DasEi> !repo
[00:16] <stuckey> ActionParsnip: You don't understand. That doesn't work. I can't change the permissions as root.
[00:16] <ActionParsnip> stuckey: you should tweak your system so it mounts writable for users
[00:16] <stuckey> chown: changing ownership of `usb/': Operation not permitted
[00:16] <stuckey> That's as root.
[00:17] <fodder70> reformat it
[00:17] <stuckey> fodder70: I just did.
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> stuckey: you dont need to change permissions as root, you can simply write the data. The underlying gvfs will need manipulation to act properly though
[00:17] <fodder70> oh
[00:17] <stuckey> ActionParsnip: No I can't write the data as root.
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> stuckey: ok, what is the output of:
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> stuckey: ls -la /mount/point   ?
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> stuckey: obv change /mount/point to the actual point
[00:18] <stuckey> drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jan  1  1970 .
[00:18] <stuckey> drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4096 Aug 29 00:52 ..
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> stuckey: when you last removed the device from a system, how did you do it?
[00:18] <DasEi> Magnetro : http://pastebin.com/ADb3nA2D
[00:18] <stuckey> ActionParsnip: It was on win7 and I shut down the system.
[00:18] <DasEi> Magnetro : click on it, call it in browser
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> stuckey: so you shutdown the system, then removed?
[00:18] <Magnetro> did.
[00:19] <stuckey> ActionParsnip: No I removed it after clicking eject in win7.
[00:19] <ChesterX> how to I link an app to the menu?
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> stuckey: good, most people don't use eject. its one cause of broken data
[00:19] <DasEi> magnetro : back to terminal :
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> stuckey: if you boot to livecd can you access it ok. Or log on as another user
[00:20] <Magnetro> ok
[00:20] <DasEi> magnetro : gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:20] <DasEi> is gedit installed ?
[00:20] <Magnetro> one sec
[00:20] <ThomasB2k> gedit is the default text editor magnetro, just so you know
[00:20] <ChesterX> hello everyone
[00:20] <test34> jedit should be the default
[00:21] <iRy> hello does somebody know what GUI Kuki Linux use??
[00:21] <ChesterX> does anyone know how to link the sh file of an app to the main menu (games in this case)?
[00:22] <Magnetro> DasEi: a list came up now what?
[00:22] <ThomasB2k> iRy, I think it's GNOME
[00:22] <ThomasB2k> nevermind
[00:22] <ThomasB2k> it's xfce
[00:22] <iRy> ThomasB2k: could also be Xface??
[00:22] <DasEi> Magnetro:  right click somewhere in that list > choose all
[00:22] <iRy> sorry Xfce
[00:23] <Magnetro> okay, and?
[00:23] <DasEi> Magnetro:  hit delete
[00:23] <Magnetro> okay..
[00:23] <DasEi> Magnetro:  go to the browser...
[00:23] <DasEi> Magnetro:  right click somewhere in that list > choose all, copy
[00:23] <Magnetro> ok..
[00:23] <DasEi> Magnetro:  paste in now empty file
[00:24] <DasEi> Magnetro:  click save in gedit's menu
[00:24] <DasEi> Magnetro:  click the very right item in gedit's menu, opens a new empty file
[00:25] <Magnetro> wait..
[00:25] <DasEi> sure, ask if unclear
[00:25] <Magnetro> gedit's meun?
[00:25] <Magnetro> don't youmean save as?
[00:25] <DasEi> gedit draw a window with icons in it's top
[00:26] <DasEi> Magnetro: one says save, one says new
[00:26] <Magnetro> okay, this is where i'm at
[00:26] <Magnetro> I cleared the text box; paste from online
[00:27] <Magnetro> now click what to save this?
[00:27] <DasEi> Magnetro: right, then click save
[00:27] <DasEi> Magnetro: can also choose it from the dropdown menu
[00:27] <mkanyicy> ChesterX, did you finally figure it out?
[00:27] <Magnetro> just normal save right?
[00:27] <Magnetro> not save as
[00:27] <DasEi> yes
[00:27] <Magnetro> okay.
[00:27] <Magnetro> done
[00:28] <DasEi> Magnetro: open a new empty file
[00:28] <Magnetro> from?
[00:28] <DasEi> Magnetro: either icon or menu > new
[00:29] <Magnetro> file > new same thing right?
[00:29] <DasEi> just open a new blank file
[00:29] <Magnetro> ok.
[00:29] <DasEi> http://pastebin.com/fhzdCeNB  , paste in
[00:30] <jamie_> can anyone help me with conky?
[00:30] <DasEi> Magnetro: save as : Desktop/keys.sh
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> jamie_: sup?
[00:31] <ChesterX> @mkanyicy: not quite, I am still looking...
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> DasEi: the first line will fail, you missed the first g
[00:31] <DasEi> Magnetro: filename is keys.sh ,  store it on your Desktop
[00:31] <MysticSmeg> New user here, been searching for hours trying to find out how to change the icon size in the drop down menus; applications, places and system.
[00:31] <ChesterX>  @mkanyicy: not quite, I am still looking...
[00:31] <DasEi> ActionParsnip: pastie ?
[00:31] <jamie_> ActionParsnip I have it installed, and the base confrc file (or whatever it's called) seems to show the info fine... but it flashes constantly (every update) and when I click on the desktop it disappears for good.....
[00:31] <DasEi> yupp
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> DasEi: look at line 1 in your pastebin, first word
[00:32] <DasEi> got it
[00:32] <ChesterX> mkanyicy: not quite, I am still looking...
[00:32] <c|oneman> oh god I just creamed myself - drag and drop win7/ubuntu works in vmware
[00:32] <DasEi> Magnetro : managed so far ?
[00:32] <jamie_> c|oneman haha openbox too ;-)
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> jamie_: some suggestions here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=864821
[00:32] <carl_fr> does anyone else have problems  with jamin  not starting
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> jamie_: openbox is da BOM
[00:33] <DasEi> c|oneman: nice addionts, nor ?
[00:33] <Magnetro> yup
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> jamie_: the file is read occasionally (hence the flashing) but it should be smooth (so you dont have to restart the app)
[00:33] <Magnetro> fiance helped me, I almost place it in the wrong location
[00:33] <Magnetro> so the name is keys.sh on my desktop
[00:34] <jamie_> ActionParsnip: agreed about openbox, though I'm doing this on gnome right now... (if that makes a difference...)
[00:34] <DasEi> Magnetro : first line in keys sh is missing a "g"( w/o quotes) so first word reads gpg
[00:34] <jamie_> but why does it disappear when I click the desktop?
[00:34] <DasEi> Magnetro : correct and save again
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> jamie_: shouldn't. Try the extra options
[00:34] <Magnetro> 1.
[00:34] <Magnetro>       pg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv 4E5E17B5 && gpg -
[00:35] <Magnetro> ??
[00:35] <g_> hi all, i have an ip set in my /etc/hosts, but the domain is still not resolving to the ip - what could be the reasons?
[00:35] <mkanyicy> ChesterX, cd /usr/share/menu
[00:35] <DasEi> gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv 4E5E17B5 && gpg -     ....            ,magnetro
[00:35] <Magnetro> ok!
[00:36] <Magnetro> save or save as?
[00:36] <DasEi> Magnetro: save again. close gedit, back to terminal
[00:36] <mkanyicy> ChesterX, then look inside some file that is there and make yours to be like that and place it there
[00:36] <jamie_> ActionParsnip what are 'extra options' and how do I access them?  (I'm migrating from #! and I needs me conky ;-)
[00:36] <DasEi> Magnetro: save again under Desktop as keys.sh
[00:36] <ChesterX> ok i ll give it a try
[00:36] <Magnetro> done.
[00:36] <ActionParsnip> jamie_: edit the conkyrc file and add the toptions in the link I gave
[00:36] <pie_time> how do you find out what your internal ip is
[00:36] <Magnetro> i'm in the commandline now.
[00:36] <DasEi> Magnetro: close gedit , back to terminal
[00:37] <Magnetro> there.
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> g_: if you dig the hostname, does it return the IP and the nameserver as 127.0.0.1
[00:37] <DasEi> Magnetro: pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:37] <mkanyicy> ChesterX, the 'section' keyword should be set to Games in your case
[00:37] <DasEi> Magnetro: last command should benn giving an url, give that here
[00:37] <DasEi> been*
[00:38] <g_> ActionParsnip: no
[00:38] <jamie_> ActionParsnip where is conkyrc?
[00:38] <ChesterX> where do I configure that?
[00:38] <DasEi> ActionParsnip: want a conky repo ?
[00:38] <ActionParsnip> jamie_: by default it will use the file in $HOME
[00:38] <ActionParsnip> DasEi: no thanks man, not used it in years
[00:38] <Magnetro> http//:pastebin.com/ is what it's given me.
[00:38] <jamie_> there is no rc or conky related file in ~
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> g_: i'd check your layout in /etc/hosts then
[00:39] <octaviano> could someone help me about THE PIXEL VIEW PLAY TV ((((USB))) to work in UBUNTU?
[00:39] <Oer> jamie in $HOME and it is called /.conkyrc ( hidden)
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> octaviano: run: lsusb   one line will identify the device, websearch for the 8 character hex ID
[00:40] <jamie_> 0er dur... ls -a lol
[00:40] <octaviano> I ve done it , but it doesnt´ work , i ve tried
[00:40] <g_> ActionParsnip: 127.0.0.1 domain ?
[00:40] <Magnetro> DasEi : http://pastebin.com/  was the result of pastebinit etc/apt/sources.list
[00:40] <jamie_> 0er nope not there :-/
[00:40] <Oer> jamie_, if there is none, start a new one :-)
[00:40] <jaws> #-/join #ubuntu-se
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> g_: no, you will need to add a line to make it resolve using the hosts file, use the same layout as the 127.0.0.1 line but use the remote IP and the name you want to use (can be anything)
[00:41] <jamie_> 0er what is it called? .conky.rc or .conkyrc?
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> jamie_: thats the standard conky file, if you kill off conky, then run it from terminal, it may tell you where the file used is held
[00:41] <carl_fr> does jamin work for anyone?
[00:42] <octaviano> I need a new help about how to work the PIXEL VIEW PLAY (((USB)) ULTRA in ubuntu
[00:42] <g_> ActionParsnip: yeah, that's what i have
[00:42] <DasEi> magnetro :  pastebinit -b http://pastebin.ca /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:42] <jamie_> And even if the buffer is doubled, that shouldn't prevent conky from disappearing when I click the desktop....
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> jamie_: the file is : ~/.conkyrc or /home/$USER/.conkyrc or $HOME/.conkyrc
[00:42] <DasEi> magnetro :  hasn't been repaired since
[00:42] <Oer> jamie .conkyrc , look at these 15 beautifull samples   >  http://www.junauza.com/2010/08/15-more-awesome-conky-configurations.html
[00:42] <imanc> !backup
[00:43] <jaws> #ubuntu
[00:43] <jamie_> ActionParsnip then where is conky getting it's info from now? When I run conky from terminal it has information in it... (host, processing, free ram, free disk space, etc, etc)
[00:43] <imanc> is there a prefferred bcak up system, or are they all decent?
[00:43] <DasEi> Magnetro: last command should benn giving an url, give that here
[00:44] <Magnetro> http://pastebin.com/
[00:44] <DasEi> magnetro :  pastebinit -b http://pastebin.ca /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:44] <DasEi> use this command
[00:44] <DasEi> the old paster is broken
[00:45] <Magnetro> okay brb
[00:45] <J_Dubyew> Yello guys not a Ubuntu question but wasn't sure where else to go
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> jamie_: read the whole output, it should say
[00:45] <JanCBorchardt> hey everyone :)
[00:45] <J_Dubyew> I'm on WIndows 7 64-bit and every few hours it crashes for no reason
[00:46] <J_Dubyew> I have no viruses and everything is plugged in correctly, what's wrong?
[00:46] <imanc> J_Dubyew: no wonder. its' windows
[00:46] <jamie_> ActionParsnip output from what?
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> J_Dubyew: ask in ##windows for windows support
[00:46] <J_Dubyew> OKay thanks
[00:46] <imanc> what do computers and air con have in common?  They both stop working when you open windows.
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> jamie_: the conkey command, i thought that was kinda obvious
[00:46] <Magnetro> DasEi : shown you the result?
[00:46] <DasEi> J_Dubyew: gimme a free copy and I'll check;;  #windows is there
[00:46] <Magnetro> show you*
[00:46] <Magnetro> File "/usr/bin/pastebinit", line 204, in <module>
[00:46] <Magnetro>     if filename == "" and list[0]:
[00:46] <Magnetro> IndexError: list index out of range
[00:47] <DasEi> magnetro : hmm, ok, I rely on it for now, let's proceed
[00:47] <J_Dubyew> How do I register my username on the windows section?
[00:47] <Magnetro> okay, so now what?
[00:47] <DasEi> !register > J_Dubyew
[00:47] <J_Dubyew> And nah I like WIndows more due to way more software support BUT Ubuntu just works which is why I have dual boot
[00:47] <J_Dubyew> thanks guys
[00:48] <carl_fr> does the mastering program jamin work for anyone
[00:48] <DasEi> Magnetro: sudo chmod +x ~/$USER/Desktop/keys.sh
[00:48] <jamie_> ActionParsnip oh, I didn't think of that because there is no relative output.... just says 'desktop window is a subwindow of root window', 'window type - desktop', 'drawing to created window', 'drawing to single buffer'.
[00:48] <JDubyew> Registered still not working
[00:49] <DasEi> JDubyew: #freenode for general irc-help
[00:49] <JanCBorchardt> so, I have these function keys on my laptop for volume etc. One of them is for switching off some LED backlights. Is there a way to automatically invoke that every startup? I guess it is some XF86* command but I neither know which nor how to execute it.
[00:49] <Magnetro> replace "user" with the profile name?
[00:49] <g_> ActionParsnip: what's really annoying is that is was redirecting correctly, then just stopped when trying to setup wildcard sub domains!
[00:49] <JanCBorchardt> oh and with the mute fuction it would be a great way to automute on startup
[00:50] <Magnetro> DasEi
[00:50] <DasEi> Magnetro: also works , sudo chmod +x /home/UserName/Desktop/key.sh
[00:50] <DasEi> Magnetro: changing your username to magnetro or whatever you took
[00:50] <DasEi> keys.sh
[00:51] <Magnetro> sudo: chmod+x: command not found
[00:51] <Magnetro> oh space it.
[00:51] <DasEi> y
[00:51] <Magnetro> brb 1 second
[00:52] <Magnetro> chmod: cannot access `/home/Bison/Desktop/keys.sh': No such file or directory
[00:53] <DasEi> magnetro : so where was it stored ? anyway : gedit   /home/Bison/Desktop/keys.sh
[00:53] <jamie_> ActionParsnip I'll return to google for a while, and see how much progress I can make there - thanks for your help thus far!
[00:53] <DasEi> Magnetro: http://pastebin.com/kxHg5JmX
[00:54] <DasEi> Magnetro: get that in, SAVE the file, close gedit
[00:54] <Magnetro> ok
[00:54] <Dr0nE> Hello.
[00:55] <DasEi> Magnetro: also works , sudo chmod +x /home/Bison/Desktop/keys.sh
[00:55] <DasEi> Magnetro: /.keys.sh
[00:55] <DasEi> should fetch some keys now
[00:55] <Dr0nE> I am in need of some help. I still cannot get NVIDIA drivers to work properly after installing grub-pc and removing.
[00:55] <Magnetro> Unexpected error: File not found
[00:56] <Magnetro> Could not save the file /home/Bison/Desktop/keys.sh.
[00:56] <Magnetro> My heads is hurting, i'm sorry.
[00:56] <DasEi> Dr0nE: which card?
[00:56] <Dr0nE> GeForce 8800 GT (Rev a2) per lspci
[00:56] <EvaLuaTe> hello world
[00:57] <klappi> EvaLuaTe: foo!
[00:57] <JanCBorchardt> How can I get an XF86* keyboard command (like XF86AudioMute) to run on startup?
[00:57] <DasEi> Magnetro : have a break ? try a little out to create a file on desktop called keys.sh with that pastie in ?
[00:58] <DasEi> Dr0nE: installed recommended driver ?
[00:58] <EvaLuaTe> is there any possibility to configure the scroll speed of the mouse wheel in ubuntu? I searched for hours and couldn't find anything useful (beside ridiculous suggestions like booting into windows and adjusting the settings there because that might work...). Any suggestions?
[00:58] <Dr0nE> I have tried 3 different drivers from nvidia
[00:58] <DasEi> Dr0nE: that might be the problem..
[00:59] <ZykoticK9> Dr0nE, "from nvidia" do you mean you downloaded the drivers?
[00:59] <Dr0nE> 1.0-8178 (the one the site chose based on video card name)
[00:59] <Magnetro> DasEi : ** (gedit:29271): WARNING **: Hit unhandled case 1 (File not found) in gedit_unrecoverable_saving_error_message_area_new.
[00:59] <ZykoticK9> Dr0nE, i have the same card and successfully use "nvidia-current" from System / Admin / Hardware Drivers
[00:59] <DasEi> Dr0nE: will have to clean it all up and then re-do the correct one
[01:00] <Dr0nE> That one didnt change anything. After removing and loading 256.44 it created the "version conflict" message. So I loaded the version the kernel was asking for
[01:00] <zcat[1]> is the scroll speed configurable in windows?!
[01:00] <carl_fr> can someone install jamin n see if it will start for them
[01:00] <Dr0nE> Hardware Drivers shows nothing.
[01:00] <Magnetro> Dasei: wouldn't it just be easier to upgrade my system?
[01:00] <coz_> zcat[1],  mm  I have never heard that one before.... are they slow at this point?
[01:00] <n0a1ias> i changed my computer name, but then i restarted and it went back to how it was. why?
[01:01] <ZykoticK9> Dr0nE, if you've installed the driver from the site, hopefully DasEi knows how to remove it....  Good luck man.
[01:01] <pie_time> what application installs .deb files?
[01:01] <DasEi> Magnetro:  well, the basics are similar, so you got to get by with it anyway
[01:01] <Dr0nE> The current version is 71.86.04 (the version the kernel was looking for)
[01:01] <ZykoticK9> pie_time, dpkg for one
[01:01] <zcat[1]> pie_time:  gdebi, dpkg
[01:01] <switch10_> pie_time: dpkg
[01:01] <WinstonSmith> pie_time, dpkg
[01:01] <retfar> [    5.686600] usb 4-1: config 1 has an invalid interface number: 1 but max is 0
[01:01] <retfar> [    5.686606] usb 4-1: config 1 has no interface number 0
[01:01] <coz_> n0a1ias,  did you look here   http://www.liberiangeek.net/2010/06/how-to-quickly-change-computer-name-in-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx/
[01:01] <WinstonSmith> lol clobbered with answers
[01:01] <DasEi> Dr0nE: ?? which distro ?
[01:01] <tripelb> where is torrent ubuntu? To make a live-USB drive I need to download the CD iso. I am looking for a torrent source. I want the 386i (vanilla) 10.04 -- thank you.
[01:01] <n0a1ias> no, thanks
[01:01] <Magnetro> Dasei: how?
[01:01] <zcat[1]> pie_time:  gdebi is a nice gui frontend, pdkg is the program that does the actual work
[01:01] <zcat[1]> *dpkg
[01:02] <EvaLuaTe> zcat[1], as far as I can remember, yes. You could set something like "1 line", "3 lines", "5 lines", etc...
[01:02] <Dr0nE> Ubuntu hardy, Linux ubuntu 2.6.24-28-generic #1 SMP Wed Aug 25 15:25:41 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux
[01:02] <EvaLuaTe> zcat[1], isn't it in linux?
[01:02] <tripelb> where is torrent ubuntu? To make a live-USB drive I need to download the CD iso. I am looking for a torrent source. I want the 386i (vanilla) 10.04 -- thank you. (I am using XP now.. in case that matters.)
[01:02] <hiexpo> check softpedia tripelb
[01:02] <ZykoticK9> !torrents | tripelb
[01:02] <Lama_Chok> Just restored my grub 2 using live cd but now my XP option is gone... help
[01:02] <DasEi> Magnetro:  gedit /home/Bison/Desktop/keys.sh       (mind it's case sensitive for username !) turns out an error ?
[01:02] <pie_time> thanks all
[01:03] <retfar> tripelb i am on a usb  now using uni
[01:03] <DasEi> !who | Dr0nE
[01:03] <tripelb> retfar cool
[01:03] <zcat[1]> EvaLuaTe:  not in the expected place (mouse properties) .. might be possible to configure it in xorg.conf or gconf-editor or something..
[01:03] <GaToR__> Hi, earlier I installed Ubuntu and came into numerous problems which I fixed, but a new problem occured since one of my previous fixes failed. I got the windows screen saying a problem booting, and to details on how to fix it...
[01:03] <DasEi> Dr0nE: on a 32 or 64 bit ?
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> tripelb: torrents will help you get a good image as there is extra checking in the torrent protocol
[01:04] <Magnetro> DasEi, that gedit command just brought up the actually file.
[01:04] <GaToR__> Jordan_U: Are you still there, and I think you told me how to fix it earlier, but I shutdown before I could see it..
[01:04] <Dr0nE> DasEi: 32bit linux on 64bit board (64 should not be enabled).
[01:04] <dlublink> I want to add some commands to an upstart script, where can I add the code ? Thanks
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> GaToR__: whats the message?
[01:04] <ActionParsnip> !boot | dlublink
[01:04] <DasEi> Dr0nE: how much ram (not the g-card, system)?
[01:04] <zcat[1]> EvaLuaTe:  if it ever was configurable I'd sure the gnome developers would consider it one more unnecessary bit of configurability that has to be taken out....
[01:04] <GaToR__> ActionParsnip: Something like "A file is missing"
[01:05] <GaToR__> I installed something, let me get the command I ran that did this..
[01:05] <Rewire> where can i find a list of "officially supported laptops" that will work flawlessly without having to worry about installing cams and wifi drivers?
[01:05] <EvaLuaTe> zcat[1], as far as I could see 'xorg.conf' isn't used in the latest version of ubuntu anymore. Do you have more precise information or even a link with info on how I could do this?
[01:05] <ZykoticK9> dlublink, i've never messed use Upstart scripts - but have a look in /etc/init/
[01:05] <DasEi> Magnetro:  so file is there and filled with that pgp stuff ?
[01:05] <ActionParsnip> GaToR__: if yu can reboot and get the exact errior (paper and pen at the ready) we can advise
[01:05] <n0a1ias> coz_, I just did that and restarted terminal, and its still says the old name
[01:05] <Dr0nE> DesEi: 3GB, 2GB swap
[01:05] <retfar> tripelb usb 2 gig no biger format fat16
[01:05] <ZykoticK9> EvaLuaTe, if you create an xorg.conf it will be used
[01:05] <GaToR__> ActionParsnip: Sure, one second. It also has numbers like 0x0000, should I copy that down as well?
[01:05] <Magnetro> DasEi it's blank -__-
[01:06] <Lama_Chok>  Just restored my grub 2 using live cd but now my XP option is gone... help
[01:06] <DasEi> Dr0nE: about max. border you can run on 32, before we start, upgrade to lucid /w 64 bit or least pae ?
[01:06] <coz_> n0a1ias,   ooo thats a bit odd
[01:06] <DasEi> Magnetro: http://pastebin.com/kxHg5JmX
[01:06] <GaToR__> ActionParsnip: And just to let you know, I ran sudo apt-get install mbr and sudo install-mbr /dev/sda to make this happen.
[01:06] <iRy> does somebody has experience with kubuntu on a Acer Aspire One 150??
[01:06] <GaToR__> Let me get the stuff, one sec.
[01:06] <coz_> n0a1ias,   check those two files again  then if the new name is there   reboot the system
[01:06] <zcat[1]> EvaLuaTe:  I'm just speculating. I really have no idea if it's configurable or not.. it never occured to me that it might be configurable in windows either, one click of the wheel is one click of the wheel and I've never felt the need to have it slower or faster.
[01:06] <shirtless> I have ubuntu on an acer aspire x1300
[01:06] <DasEi> Magnetro: get that in, SAVE the file, close gedit
[01:06] <shirtless> is that close enough?
[01:06] <EvaLuaTe> ZykoticK9, ok, but any idea what I should write in there to edit the scroll speed?
[01:06] <shirtless> let me guess, you have hardware compatibility issues.
[01:06] <RxDx> is there any way to stop docky grouping my same windows?
[01:06] <Dr0nE> DasEi: I have no plans to goto 64bit. my intention was to keep it 32bit to keep it stable with my other systems.
[01:07] <coz_> Rewire,  try here  http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06355/747665-56.stm
[01:07] <n0a1ias> rebooting, its not this computer so i wint have to leav
[01:07] <iRy> shirtless: do you have an 3g qualcomm modem??
[01:07] <basso> 64 bit is tha future :3
[01:07] <ZykoticK9> EvaLuaTe, a couple of months ago i was searching for the same thing (scroll speed) but never found an answer/solution.  Hope you have better luck.
[01:07] <shirtless> iRy: aspire is a USFF desktop, so I don't
[01:07] <coz_> Rewire,  also in google   "ubuntu laptops compatibility"  as the search string
[01:07] <shirtless> iRy: the x1300 that is.
[01:07] <shirtless> not the netbook/laptop type
[01:07] <Dr0nE> basso: I use 386's. 64bit systems don't work.
[01:07] <iRy> oh ok
[01:07] <DasEi> Dr0nE: see 4 gb is max a default 32 os handles, including graphics memory, interopability with 32 oses ain't an issue
[01:07] <shirtless> but I have had numerous linux issues with it, so I wondered if any were universal to many acers.
[01:07] <EvaLuaTe> zcat[1], well, scrolling is fine for me too, but I have a logitech mouse with a tilt wheel that lets me "side scroll". but that one is pretty slow and pretty useless like that, that's why I would like to adjust it...
[01:07] <iRy> sorry
[01:08] <basso> Dr0nE: what do you use those for? :O
[01:08] <shirtless> on my acer aspire x1300 if I plug usb headphones in it causes the system to hang.
[01:08] <n0a1ias> alright rebooting fixed it, thanks coz_
[01:08] <iRy> i tried now several ubuntu version on my AAO but none of them couldn't manage my mdoem
[01:08] <DasEi> Dr0nE: we can do it, though I'm more used to recent current distros
[01:08] <tripelb> ubuntu.com/simple/lucid/desktop/ubuntu-10.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent -- this page does not exist. Well obviously this page exists but it exists to tell you that the page you are looking for does not exist. (ubuntu, charming as always)  retfar ActionParsnip ZykoticK9
[01:08] <DasEi> !lucid | Dr0nE:
[01:08] <shirtless> Other linux works fine with the usb headphones, on other boxes
[01:08] <Dr0nE> DasEi: I know the normal limit. This system has been running flawlessly for a few years until I loaded grub-pc and removed since it would not boot properly.
[01:08] <shirtless> s/Other//
[01:08] <iRy> hmm
[01:08] <shirtless> but the USB is flaky as hell
[01:09] <shirtless> sometimes the usb ports just outright stop working
[01:09] <shirtless> and they fail to enumerate
[01:09] <shirtless> Windows handles it fine
[01:09] <iRy> do you use 10.4??
[01:09] <Dr0nE> basso: I have a couple spare computers that I like running EMC on and crude servers
[01:09] <DasEi> Dr0nE: so let's go ahead
[01:09] <shirtless> it's a problem with the linux kernel, not the ubuntu distribution.
[01:09] <DasEi> Dr0nE: open a terminal
[01:09] <hiexpo> EvaLuaTe, good luck with that mouse i tryed for 3 months and gave up on it and went and bought a basic usb logitech mouse
[01:09] <shirtless> I've been using linux for like 10 years
[01:09] <ActionParsnip> tripelb: http://releases.ubuntu.com/lucid/ubuntu-10.04.1-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[01:09] <Magnetro> Dasei after I close gedit, then what?
[01:09] <shirtless> my guess is that windows implements a hardware-workaround in software
[01:09] <ZykoticK9> The !torrents factoid is flawed, how does one suggest corrections for factoids?  tripelb sorry about that.
[01:09] <retfar> tripelb connect with bitturrent
[01:09] <iRy> i know 10.4 uses 2.6.32 kernel, isn't it?
[01:09] <shirtless> and that linux doens't know about that
[01:10] <zcat[1]> EvaLuaTe:  found it. xorg.conf, Option "VertScrollDelta" "6"
[01:10] <EvaLuaTe> hiexpo, hmm, that's bad.
[01:10] <ActionParsnip> ZykoticK9: /msg ubottu !something is details
[01:10] <Dr0nE> DasEi: Ok?
[01:10] <shirtless> iRy: yeah, version doesn't matter. not many people have acer aspires so there will probably not be interest in fixing the bugs amongst the kernel devs
[01:10] <shirtless> iRy: the list of stuff to fix is very long
[01:10] <ActionParsnip> ZykoticK9: change somthing and details in the command
[01:10] <DasEi> Magnetro:  sudo chmod +x /home/Bison/Desktop/keys.sh && ./keys.sh
[01:10] <shirtless> best to just not buy crap hardware and cut your losses
[01:10] <shirtless> right now it works ok
[01:10] <DasEi> Magnetro:  sudo chmod +x /home/Bison/Desktop/keys.sh && /.keys.sh  , see above
[01:10] <hiexpo> EvaLuaTe, yup to many buttons on it like 7 in it plus whell
[01:10] <shirtless> I'm using it right now.
[01:10] <EvaLuaTe> zcat[1], ok, let me have a look at this. Do I have to restart X to reload the conf file or is there an easier way?
[01:11] <retfar> tripelb set bittorrent up
[01:11] <iRy> what do you use right now?
[01:11] <EvaLuaTe> hiexpo, mine's just a basic one (3 buttons + 4-way wheel)
[01:11] <ActionParsnip> ZykoticK9: e.g.   !apple is Don't buy Apple products, they suck
[01:11] <shirtless> I'm using the acer aspire x1300
[01:11] <DasEi> Dr0nE: sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia*  --dry-run
[01:11] <shirtless> I just don't plug my usb headphones in and I hope the usb ports don't die on me.
[01:11] <basso> Dr0nE: dang, we have P4 boxes as spares, and you have 386s xD
[01:11] <DasEi> Dr0nE: does it attempt to remove other than nvidia-stuff ?
[01:11] <iRy> well good luck
[01:11] <hiexpo> EvaLuaTe, might be easier than
[01:11] <iRy> ;)
[01:11] <shirtless> plus I am only using one usb port because of my KVM switch multiplexing mouse and keyboard over one port
[01:11] <shirtless> so I think it's less risky ;)
[01:11] <shirtless> less ports to die on me.
[01:12] <zcat[1]> EvaLuaTe:  yes, you have to restart X .. also by default there's no xorg.conf so you have to create one with X --createconfig (or whatever the option is) then add the new option in to the mouse section..
[01:12] <ZykoticK9> ActionParsnip, i'm not following - this is the directions to submit "bugs" with factoids?  Your suggestion just seems like "message the bot" to retrieve factoids...
[01:12] <Dr0nE> DasEi: cannot find package nvidia
[01:12] <zcat[1]> EvaLuaTe:  also the very next comment after the one about MouseScrollDelta is that it doesn't work...
[01:12] <ActionParsnip> ZykoticK9: no, if you use that syntax it will add the factoid for review
[01:12] <iRy> maybe i should buy a book about c programming and start to compile my on kernel for this crapy stuff
[01:12] <shirtless> I'd like to be able to fix bugs in the kernel, but by the time I learn how linux will probably have been destroyed by a global nuclear war
[01:12] <zcat[1]> EvaLuaTe:  ymmv...
[01:12] <Magnetro> DasEi: ugh, it keeps saying no such file or directory..
[01:13] <iRy> lol
[01:13] <EvaLuaTe> zcat[1], lol.
[01:13] <ActionParsnip> !kernel | iRy
[01:13] <shirtless> iRy: compiling the kernel doesn't require knowing C, but it's a nice skill to have.
[01:13] <iRy> but linux will survive
[01:13] <DasEi> Magnetro : check for typos..
[01:13] <tripelb> retfar, I'm using microtorrent atm
[01:13] <shirtless> iRy: I learned C the day I installed linux, 10ish years ago
[01:13] <ActionParsnip> iRy: you don't need to know C to compile a kernel, there are menus for it in Linux
[01:13] <shirtless> iRy: as soon as I found out it came with a compiler I was pretty thrilled.
[01:13] <DasEi> Dr0nE: so little hard to say what you installed
[01:13] <iRy> thx for the tip
[01:13] <zcat[1]> !b-e
[01:13] <retfar> tripelb open .t?? file with bittorrent
[01:14] <shirtless> iRy: ubuntu forums has a good thread on different programming languages if you want to start
[01:14] <Magnetro> bison@gbook3:~$ sudo chmod +x /home/Bison/Desktop/keys.sh && /.keys.sh
[01:14] <Magnetro> [sudo] password for bison:
[01:14] <Magnetro> chmod: cannot access `/home/Bison/Desktop/keys.sh': No such file or directory
[01:14] <Magnetro> bison@gbook3:~$
[01:14] <DasEi> Dr0nE: we try another approach :
[01:14] <zcat[1]> shirtless:  you found that package already? it gives you most of the stuff you need for compiling things
[01:14] <iRy> which do you think is the best??
[01:14] <ZykoticK9> ActionParsnip, and it's just "/msg ubottu !torrents both links are non-functional"?  I get a bot error - "Don't think i'm intelligent"
[01:14] <jellow> shirtless: You don't have t be a kernel dev to complie kernel  :P
[01:14] <Dr0nE> DasEi: from dmesg [   32.718212] NVRM: loading NVIDIA Linux x86 Kernel Module  71.86.04  Mon Jan 21 11:22:18 PST 2008
[01:14] <enero> ciao
[01:14] <shirtless> jellow: scroll up, I said that.
[01:15] <zcat[1]> I think when you msg the bot you don't have to use !
[01:15] <shirtless> zcat[1]: ???
[01:15] <shirtless> !bot
[01:15] <DasEi> Dr0nE: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf  /etc/X11/xorg.conf_whatnot
[01:15] <Dr0nE> DasEi: followed by: [   43.802345] NVRM: rm_init_adapter(0) failed
[01:15] <enero> qualcuno parla italiano?
[01:15] <retfar> tripelb thats good to i use bittorent genericly
[01:15] <wea0> I recently upgraded from kubuntu karmic to lucid. Since that upgrade my system performance has decreased severely. Doing basically anything in Dolphin can make it hang for ~10s and I can't even run Half-Life at a stable 60fps anymore. Any ideas?
[01:15] <zcat[1]> !b-e > shirtless
[01:15] <shirtless> zcat[1]: I didn't actually need any help, but thank you ;)
[01:15] <Dr0nE> DasEi: It has been backed up.
[01:15] <DasEi> Dr0nE: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:16] <iRy> shirtless, what language is normally a kernel compiled??
[01:16] <hiexpo> works fine
[01:16] <DasEi> Dr0nE: log out and back in
[01:16] <shirtless> iRy: linux is written in C and asm but the compiler is scripted by configure(bash)/autoconf and GNU make.
[01:16] <zcat[1]> shirtless:  yeah, ok.. I was compiling kernels in slackware more than ten years ago.. I'm over it now ;)
[01:16] <shirtless> zcat[1]: me too
[01:16] <Dr0nE> DasEi: log out before or after running reconfig?
[01:16] <shirtless> zcat[1]: I compile it only if I must.. I hate it
[01:16] <DasEi> Dr0nE: after
[01:16] <ActionParsnip> ZykoticK9: http://pastie.org/1123281
[01:17] <shirtless> zcat[1]: I wish I could be a kernel dev, but I imagine by the time I had the skills linux will be destroyed by global nuclear war, along with earth
[01:17] <ActionParsnip> shirtless: super easy in gentoo ;)
[01:17] <hiexpo> ZykoticK9, /msg ubottu !torrents
[01:17] <shirtless> ActionParsnip: yeah, I had my gentoo days too.
[01:17] <shirtless> ActionParsnip: I installed when stage 1 was still supported.
[01:17] <shirtless> it took about 3 days.
[01:17] <shirtless> on my slow ass box
[01:17] <iRy> shirtless, linux will survive this war, you don't think?
[01:17] <ZykoticK9> hiexpo, that just retrieves/messages the replay for !torrents
[01:17] <ActionParsnip> shirtless: not done a stage1 but its still fun, took about the same time
[01:17] <shirtless> iRy: there is probably at least one linux nut with a bomb shelter, so yeah
[01:18] <Dr0nE> DasEi: brb...
[01:18] <shirtless> iRy: but not many people will be around to share his fortune
[01:18] <ActionParsnip> shirtless: i only have slow ass boxes
[01:18] <DasEi> Magnetro: if you really can't figure it now, you can also run the pastie line by line in terminal
[01:18] <DasEi> Magnetro: http://pastebin.com/kxHg5JmX
[01:18] <shirtless> ActionParsnip: I still have a p4, but my fastest is an amd dual core
[01:18] <zcat[1]> I don't think I've ever compiled more than a module in the last five years or more... usually trying to get winmodems working. and I had to compile the nvidia glue a little while back in debian. But a whole kernel? Not for a long time
[01:18] <shirtless> ActionParsnip: i couldn't compile perl6 on the p4, i was disappoint.
[01:18] <retfar> tripelb http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[01:18] <hiexpo> ZykoticK9, what did you want ?
[01:18] <ActionParsnip> shirtless: fastest here is 1 6 semp am2
[01:19] <ZykoticK9> ActionParsnip, thanks the "is" is the important part ;)
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> ZykoticK9: yeah, though i'd said. Gld its clear now :)
[01:20] <GaToR__> ActionParsnip:I get: Windows failed to start. A recent hardware or software change may have caused this. Status: 0x000000e. Info: The boot selection failed because a required device is inaccessible
[01:20] <shirtless> zcat[1]: you still use 56k? or are they DSL? where do you live that you need those?
[01:20] <shirtless> I got a winmodem working once, and got linux to dial into AOL
[01:20] <Dr0nE> DasEi: ok, resolution increased now
[01:21] <shirtless> The raw end of the story is that it was for some girl and she was feigning interest in linux because she liked me
[01:21] <shirtless> but I wasn't into it
[01:21] <DasEi> Dr0nE: sudo jockey-gtk
[01:21] <zcat[1]> shirtless:  People that live out of town, or on a very low income and can't afford DSL
[01:21] <imanc> 56k modem - who still uses those?
[01:21] <shirtless> zcat[1]: damn, that sucks for them
[01:21] <Cl1FF> Can some1 help me? If I connect my laptop to an external mouse, X restarts and I end up in the login screen with another x configuration. this also happens when the computer starts up with the mouse plugged in. Is there a fix for this?
[01:21] <GaToR__> :3
[01:21] <DasEi> Dr0nE: will take some time to load
[01:21] <iRy> hey guys im on internet with gprs
[01:21] <iRy> that s*****
[01:22] <GaToR__> meh.
[01:22] <Dr0nE> DasEi: quickly loaded Hardware Drivers window
[01:22] <shirtless> zcat[1]: I think sooner or later everyone will have high speed internet  and it will be at the same cost as 56k or free
[01:22] <iRy> average speed 16 kB/s
[01:22] <GaToR__> I ran a command to get GRUB to work(as Windows kept breaking it), and now when I boot Windows I get: Windows failed to start. A recent hardware or software change may have caused this. Status: 0x000000e. Info: The boot selection failed because a required device is inaccessible.
[01:22] <DasEi> Dr0nE: recommends a driver ?
[01:22] <imanc> gprs - it gets worse
[01:22] <n0a1ias> does x11vnc work on windows aswell?
[01:22] <shirtless> zcat[1]: like, torrentfreak bought that rural town in russia, did you hear about that? they're renaming it to torrent freak and obviously everyone is going to have internets.
[01:22] <Dr0nE> DasEi: recommends? no, but there is one listed "NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver (latest cards)"
[01:23] <shirtless> n0a1ias: you will be able to connect to it from windows, but you can't run x11vnc ON windows
[01:23] <shirtless> you should probably use tightvnc
[01:23] <usiul> leave
[01:23] <ActionParsnip> GaToR__: doesn't sound good. i'd grab the ultimate boot cd and check the drive health
[01:24] <iRy> what's a good network manager for XFce??
[01:24] <tripelb> http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2010/08/pain-ray-rejected-by-the-military-ready-to-blast-l-a-prisoners/  HOw soon till others have it too? Pain ray gun. LAPD getting it.
[01:24] <tripelb> sorry wrong place
[01:24] <WinstonSmith> ActionParsnip, could it be that he changed the bootable flag?
[01:24] <DasEi> Dr0nE: is it activated ? noo.. choose it, would be interesting if it's a gs or gt
[01:25] <GaToR__> ActionParsnip: Ugh. I'm using the GRUB2 boot cd.. I haven't fully checked it out..Is there something on there that could check the health?
[01:25] <DasEi> .. we'll see soon, hehe
[01:25] <n0a1ias> ok well i need a vnc that can do both windows, and ubuntu, diff versions is ok but i need to be able to install one with the same name on a windows compute, any ideas?
[01:25] <Dr0nE> DasEi: no it is not enabled and status shows Not in use. enable it?
[01:25] <DasEi> yes, please
[01:25] <ActionParsnip> WinstonSmith: maybe, GaToR__ i'd check what WinstonSmith says too
[01:25] <ActionParsnip> GaToR__: you could fsck it
[01:25] <shirtless> n0a1ias: use tightvnc
[01:25] <WinstonSmith> ActionParsnip, fsck ntfs?
[01:26] <Dr0nE> DasEi: it loaded nvidia-glx-new_169.12
[01:26] <n0a1ias> thanks for the help shirtless
[01:26] <shirtless> n0a1ias: np
[01:26] <GaToR__> how would I do that with an ntfs :S
[01:26] <GaToR__> is that even possible
[01:26] <GaToR__> or wait
[01:26] <ActionParsnip> WinstonSmith: oh its ntfs? There is fsck.ntfs in ntfstools but you'd be better with a windows OS checking it
[01:26] <Dr0nE> DasEi: and of course, asking to restart even though it says its "In use" now.
[01:26] <DasEi> Dr0nE: I **think the 18../19.. line would be most improved, but as it's hardy, I'm not sur e no more
[01:26] <shirtless> chkdsk
[01:27] <ActionParsnip> GaToR__: i'd get the UBCD and check it that way too
[01:27] <Jammet> Is there a way to manually install the commercial ATI drivers? The "Hardware drivers" GUI refuses to present me with the option to install any drivers, even though the card is a radeon 9800 pro.
[01:27] <DasEi> Dr0nE: wait with restart
[01:27] <dvnet> Hello people
[01:27] <Dr0nE> DasEi: ok
[01:27] <WinstonSmith> GaToR__, ActionParsnip' s advice is good
[01:27] <DasEi> Dr0nE: sudo nvidia-xconfig
[01:27] <basso> Jammet: ATI dont support legacy hardware
[01:27] <shirtless> Jammet: if their driver is anything like nvidia's you can probably download the package from ati's website and then run it as root.
[01:27] <allan_mills> dvnet: hello
[01:27] <shirtless> or not.
[01:27] <hiexpo> Jammet,  > ati
[01:27] <basso> Jammet: my X1950 didnt have drivers
[01:27] <dvnet> How are you doing?
[01:28] <GaToR__> Darn. I was trying to get away from burning more CDs(as I have none at the moment.) all of this happened 'cause I ran a command..fff. Thanks.
[01:28] <Jammet> basso: The card isn't really that old. Really.
[01:28] <dvnet> I am super bored and super high.
[01:28] <Dr0nE> DasEi: done
[01:28] <realubot> I cannot get Minitube to start playing videos. I have installed Minituve 1.1 from getdeb repository. Why isn't Minitube working?
[01:28] <basso> Jammet: 9800pro should have full support on the open source driver
[01:28] <ilovefairuz> !of | dvnet
[01:28] <allan_mills> dvnet: I'm not high, but watching and learning from people here.  Did you get high using sudo?
[01:28] <Jammet> shirtless: I think it's more difficult than with NVidia's installation. Requires some tinkering, I was told. :/
[01:28] <ilovefairuz> !ot | dvnet
[01:29] <undifined> basso, do you have your x1950 working ?
[01:29] <dvnet> Hahahha. using sudo? I am more of a su then password kinda person.
[01:29] <hiexpo> everything has a driver
[01:29] <EvaLuaTe> any idea why I get this error http://pastebin.com/yYFDstmn when running 'X -configure' or what I can do to avoid it?
[01:29] <basso> undifined: yes, i used the open source driver, quite crappy, but it worked.
[01:29] <Jammet> basso: No 3D here. It works only at a crawls speed. Besides - I did have full 3D support with this very same card on Linux before. With the commercial package. It's just that in the current Ubuntu I am not presented with the choice to use them any longer.
[01:29] <undifined> basso, mine is in conflict with my onboard ati rv100
[01:30] <shirtless> EvaLuaTe: did you turn X off?
[01:30] <basso> Jammet: that is because the commercial packet is withdrawn from ATI :(
[01:30] <ZykoticK9> EvaLuaTe, you need to stop GDM first - see my steps at http://sites.google.com/site/alucidfs/how-i-do/create-an-xorg-conf-file
[01:30] <DasEi> Dr0nE: keep the comands sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg / sudo nvidia-xconfig handy, case getting a gibberish desktop, crtl-alt-F1 will you bring you to cmd-line if needed; now sudo rebott
[01:30] <shirtless> EvaLuaTe: sudo service gdm stop or killall X
[01:30] <DasEi> reboot
[01:30] <WinstonSmith> Jammet, the 9800 pro only works with the open source driver
[01:30] <Jammet> Oh crap.
[01:30] <dvnet> gnome-open
[01:30] <dvnet> its better.
[01:30] <WinstonSmith> Jammet, ati dropped support for x.org > 7.4
[01:30] <basso> ATI is just awsome :)
[01:30] <Dr0nE> DasEi: ok, I'll reboot and see how it goes.
[01:30] <EvaLuaTe> ohh, ok. thanks guys
[01:30] <ilovefairuz> EvaLuaTe: switch to a virtual terminal (alt + f2) then sudo service gdm stop, then Xorg -configure, sudo service gdm start, alt + f7
[01:30] <dvnet> or ps aux
[01:30] <DasEi> Magnetro: gave up ?
[01:31] <ZykoticK9> basso, now that's funny
[01:31] <dvnet> Thats to get a list of services..
[01:31] <Jammet> basso, WinstonSmith: You mean it was dropped? A perfectly good, working driver was just.... dropped? What the hell?
[01:31] <dvnet> ps aux
[01:31] <WinstonSmith> Jammet, im running the open source driver here and its fine
[01:31] <realubot> Anyone else having problem getting minitube 1.1 to work using Ubuntu 10.04? Maybe the video URL is not working since when I copy the video URL using right click menu in Minitube the URL I get doesn't even play in Firefox either.
[01:31] <pie_time> can transmission work while you're logged out?
[01:31] <WinstonSmith> Jammet, look here : http://support.amd.com/de/gpudownload/linux/Legacy/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.12&lang=English
[01:31] <Jammet> WinstonSmith: I am using it as well, but the 3D accleration is basically non existant.
[01:31] <ilovefairuz> pie_time: it has to be started somewhere, perhaps /etc//rc.local
[01:32] <hiexpo> pie_time, i don't think so
[01:32] <WinstonSmith> Jammet, i play q3a and other games fine ... and the video playback quality is MUCH better then the binary blob
[01:32] <dvnet> i dont think that transmission can work while you are logged out..
[01:32] <pie_time> ilovefairuz, but then you can log out?
[01:32] <dvnet> only way to find out is by trying it out.
[01:32] <Jammet> WinstonSmith: Whenever I attempt to run anything 3D, I get Xerror messages. :(
[01:32] <ilovefairuz> pie_time: this script gets run at boot time, before any user logs in
[01:32] <Jophish_n900> howdy all
[01:32] <ZykoticK9> pie_time, you could use screen + a cli torrent client while you are logged out.
[01:33] <shirtless> pie_time: yes it works logged out, you need to install transmission-daemon et al and read the docs
[01:33] <pie_time> ZykoticK9, does it have to be screen?
[01:33] <Jammet> WinstonSmith: It's a damn shame about the commercial drivers anyway. But please, could you help me figure out what my 3D support isn't working?
[01:33] <WinstonSmith> Jammet, what does glxgears give you? how many fps?
[01:33] <DasEi> Dr0nE: so ?
[01:33] <shirtless> pie_time: you will have to run it as a daemon, that's all.
[01:33] <ZykoticK9> pie_time, if you want to log out - then yes
[01:33] <Dr0nE> DasEi: no go, I'm back to 640x480 and it initially failed to load X
[01:33] <Jammet> WinstonSmith: glxgears gives me a Segfault. I am not kidding.
[01:33] <ZykoticK9> Jammet, that's common with ATI right now
[01:34] <DasEi> Dr0nE: sudo nvida-settings
[01:34] <WinstonSmith> shirtless, i concur .. transmission FTW
[01:34] <shirtless> pie_time: sudo apt-get install transmission-daemon transmission-cli -- that should be all you need, then check the docs
[01:34] <ZykoticK9> DasEi, Dr0nE use "gksu" for GUI applications - see !gksudo
[01:34] <DasEi> Dr0nE: gui comes up ?
[01:34] <Jammet> ZykoticK9: I've had this since 2 ubuntu upgrades ... basically since the commercial package dropped support.
[01:34] <Dr0nE> DasEi: NV-CONTROL ext. not found on display but gui loads
[01:35] <ZykoticK9> Jammet, i have no details - i avoid ATI at all costs - but i've seen the segfault issue many times in this channel
[01:35] <endhiran> can i play 1080 pixel video in ubuntu 10.04.by which player
[01:35] <WinstonSmith> Jammet, do : dmesg | grep radeon . does somthing come up?
[01:35] <ilovefairuz> endhiran: try vlc
[01:35] <Dr0nE> DasEi: Note: dmesg is back to "API mismatch 169.12 but kernel module has version 71.86.04"
[01:35] <WinstonSmith> something*
[01:35] <Magnetro> DasEi: I just tried everything, obviously it's me but yeah..
[01:35] <Jammet> ZykoticK9: It basically happens with anything whatsoever that uses 3D in the slightest. And it's the reason why most flash videos also run at a crawls pace. And only if they're windowed.
[01:35] <ZykoticK9> endhiran, if you have Nvidia proprietary driver i'd check out the mplayer "vdpau" output option
[01:36] <DasEi> Dr0nE: you know if it's a 8800 gs or gt ?
[01:36] <Dr0nE> DasEi: (the reason I loaded the 71.86.04 was because it stated the kernel was expecting it.)
[01:36] <DasEi> Magnetro: if you really can't figure it now, you can also run the pastie line by line in terminal
[01:36] <ZykoticK9> Jammet, i'm sorry what you are describing is, in my opinion, expected with ATI
[01:36] <DasEi> Magnetro: http://pastebin.com/kxHg5JmX
[01:36] <Jammet> WinstonSmith: Yeah. "fb1: radeondrmfb frame buffer device" followed by "[drm] Initialized radeon 2.0.0 20080528 for 0000:01:00.0 on minor 0"
[01:36] <Dr0nE> DasEi: confirmed 8800 GT per serial on card
[01:37] <Jammet> ZykoticK9: Makes me wish I had a better card. And I was so proud of it. :(
[01:37] <DasEi> Dr0nE: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:37] <WinstonSmith> jammet yes but ""frame buffer device" not good its not using the right driver
[01:37] <Jophish_n900> is there anywhere I can find a list of laptops with good linux support? Or can anyone suggest a nice laptop with an i5 or better?
[01:37] <Magnetro> okay, but honestly; I'm trying to find a way to update my system
[01:37] <mete> hello
[01:37] <Dr0nE> DasEi: I just scrolled back up and saw the other message module license "NVIDIA" taints kernel
[01:37] <mete> has anyone a tutorial, how I can install ubuntu 10.04 on a HP elitebook 8440P ?
[01:38] <Jammet> WinstonSmith: I must admit I cannot make heads or tails of this. The Framebuffer was not X related, or was it?
[01:38] <Jophish_n900> back, did anyone happen to reply to me?
[01:38] <WinstonSmith> jammet gimme a sec doing google-fu
[01:38] <Jammet> WinstonSmith: Thank you :).
[01:38] <ilovefairuz> mete: just follow the usual installation procedure
[01:38] <Dr0nE> DasEi: both those seemed to not update anything.
[01:39] <retfar> tripelb i crashed :(
[01:39] <mete> ilovefairuz: problem is, after I select "install ubutnu", the screen is black ^^
[01:39] <WinstonSmith> jammet can you pastebin glxinfo plz
[01:39] <mete> it's a driver problem I think
[01:39] <wea0> I recently upgraded from kubuntu karmic to lucid. Since that upgrade my system performance has decreased severely. Doing basically anything in Dolphin can make it hang for ~10s and I can't even run Half-Life at a stable 60fps anymore. Any ideas?
[01:39] <ZykoticK9> mete, "install ubuntu" from the destkop icon (of LiveCD)?
[01:39] <DasEi> Dr0nE: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current  --dry-run,  what does it suggest ?
[01:39] <Jammet> WinstonSmith: Sure.
[01:39] <xangua> !manual | mete
[01:39] <xangua> you just normaly burn the cd, put it in your pc, configure it to boot from cd/dvd and follow the instructions
[01:40] <mete> ZykoticK9: no, from the installer. I can't boot the live cd... same problem --> black screen
[01:40] <n0a1ias> wassssup
[01:40] <ZykoticK9> mete, ya figured.  Good luck man.
[01:40] <Dr0nE> DasEi: Any chance this could be caused by an argument passed to kernel at boot since this all started when grub-pc altered the menu.lst file?
[01:40] <Jammet> WinstonSmith: Although, I do not need pastebin for what it says. "name of display: :0.0" "Segmentation fault"
[01:40] <ilovefairuz> mete: http://blog.triumphovermadness.com/2010/05/ubuntu-1004-lts-on-hp-elitebook-8440p.html
[01:40] <WinstonSmith> jammet ok do : sudo apt-get install --reinstall libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri xserver-xorg-video-radeon xserver-xorg-core then reboot
[01:40] <Jammet> WinstonSmith: And that is all it does.
[01:40] <n0a1ias> Im white
[01:41] <Dr0nE> DasEi: That returns "package not found: nvidia-current"
[01:41] <WinstonSmith> jammet ok do : sudo apt-get install --reinstall libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri xserver-xorg-video-radeon xserver-xorg-core then reboot
[01:41] <DasEi> Dr0nE: hmm, not really, if you just changed grub, there will be no plymouth
[01:41] <Jammet> WinstonSmith: Doing that. I'll reconnect after it's finished.
[01:41] <WinstonSmith> Jammet, kkk
[01:41] <Magnetro> DasEi: I ran them line by line,and i'm assuming it's a success
[01:41] <n0a1ias> i think i
[01:42] <n0a1ias> it's a success
[01:42] <mete> ilovefairuz: I will try, thanls
[01:42] <n0a1ias> sure
[01:42] <Dr0nE> DasEi: The reason I was asking was because before grub-pc nvidia driver was working fine. Also, I am not sure if this has something todo with it but I see an error on the screen at X attempts to load and falls back to console login relating to "init"
[01:42] <DasEi> Magnetro: sweet, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[01:43] <n0a1ias> whats up remoteCtrl3?
[01:43] <bazhang> !ot | n0a1ias
[01:43] <Magnetro> DONE
[01:44] <n0a1ias> kkk
[01:44] <DasEi> Dr0nE: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit -b http://pastebin.ca /etc/X11/Xorg.0.log
[01:44] <DasEi> ^ no link , one command
[01:44] <n0a1ias> what is ubuntu
[01:44] <DasEi> !ubuntu
[01:44] <bazhang> n0a1ias, please stay on topic.
[01:45] <n0a1ias> o i have linux
[01:45] <n0a1ias> sry
[01:45] <n0a1ias> Im ADD as all
[01:45] <bazhang> n0a1ias, this is Ubuntu support only. chitchat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:45] <Dr0nE> DasEi: /etc/X11/Xorg.0.log cannot be read, did you mean /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[01:46] <DasEi> yes, sorry, Dr0nE
[01:46] <Gwar> Hi everyone. Is anyone able to tell me or direct me to a guide to get Pidgin working with Tor so I can connect to Freenode? Using 10.04
[01:46] <Jammet> WinstonSmith: I'm back. Quickly ran glxinfo. Sadly, no change. Still the Segfault.
[01:46] <tripelb> .
[01:46] <Dr0nE> DasEi: http://pastebin.ca/1928069
[01:46] <WXZ1> anyway I can have a drop down menu for my music folder
[01:46] <DasEi> Gwar: ask #freenode about that
[01:47] <n0a1ias> hey
[01:47] <WXZ1> a drawer is a bad solution
[01:47] <Dr0nE> DasEi: The only error I see is that glx extension failed
[01:47] <n0a1ias> sorry, my lil' bro was on
[01:47] <n0a1ias> i apologies for him
[01:48] <WinstonSmith> Jammet, do a : dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg plz
[01:48] <Jammet> WinstonSmith: But there is more info if I grep dmesg for radeon, now: http://pastebin.ca/1928070
[01:48] <DasEi> Dr0nE: it's vesa
[01:48] <WinstonSmith> Jammet, ok will look
[01:48] <cast> freenode has ssl support, and you can have your host masked from other users with a cloak,
[01:48] <Dr0nE> DasEi: oh?
[01:48] <cast> Gwar: ^
[01:48] <Jammet> WinstonSmith: Thanks. Should I do the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg regardless?
[01:48] <Gwar> Yes but that's not as good as tor xD
[01:48] <DasEi> Dr0nE: so before we go in binary or package-guessing, I suggest trying envy
[01:49] <WinstonSmith> Jammet, yes. at least now its not in framebuffer mode anymore
[01:49] <Magnetro> DasEi, is this command updating my entire system?
[01:49] <Dr0nE> DasEi: so vesa is messing with it?
[01:49] <jellow> can some one help me set up a compose key for the symbol ">" , I'm using .XCompose
[01:49] <og01> hi how can i prevent linux-image from ever being installed (it is not currently installed)
[01:49] <Magnetro> it's bee downloading for a while now.
[01:49] <ilovefairuz> og01: why would you want to do that?
[01:50] <ActionParsnip> og01: you can use apt to pin versions of packages
[01:50] <Jammet> WinstonSmith: I've issued the command. What will it do? No output.
[01:50] <mcw> Lo!!!
[01:50] <ActionParsnip> og01: it will then be ignored in updates
[01:50] <DasEi> Dr0nE: should be least nv, ifnot nvidia-glx, idk whats going on there, sudo apt-get install envyng-gtk
[01:50] <xangua> why would you want to do that og01¿
[01:50] <og01> ilovefairuz: i have a custom install of ubuntu with a custom kernel, installing linux-image breaks things
[01:50] <og01> xangua: ^^
[01:50] <WinstonSmith> ActionParsnip, how do you restart the xserver without ctrl-alt-backspace in lucid plz?
[01:50] <DasEi> Magnetro: so system is now updated ? no further errors ?
[01:51] <WinstonSmith> Jammet, 1 sec
[01:51] <ilovefairuz> og01: call the custom package linux-image and pin it
[01:51] <og01> xangua: ilovefairuz: i am with ovh i did not make this custom ubuntu install
[01:51] <Jammet> Okay.
[01:51] <DasEi> WinstonSmith: sudo service gdm restart
[01:51] <ilovefairuz> og01: it will get pulled because virtual packages depend on it
[01:51] <WinstonSmith> dasei with x loaded ?
[01:52] <DasEi> WinstonSmith: yes, but will log you off temparly
[01:52] <WinstonSmith> dasei danke
[01:52] <Magnetro> DasEi, it's still in the process but so  good so far.
[01:52] <ZykoticK9> WinstonSmith, FYI it's alt+sysrq+k in Lucid to restart X (by default)
[01:52] <DasEi> Magnetro: good sign, call my nick when ready
[01:52] <WinstonSmith> Jammet, do : sudo service gdm restart
[01:52] <gpled> after upgrading to 10.04, i lost my svido. still have vga. any idea how to get svideo back?
[01:52] <WinstonSmith> ZykoticK9, thx
[01:53] <Magnetro> ok
[01:53] <Jammet> WinstonSmith: Okay.
[01:53] <DasEi> Dr0nE: ?
[01:53] <ActionParsnip> WinstonSmith: i think its right alt + k + print screen     but you can re-enable CAB in the keyboard options
[01:53] <Dr0nE> DasEi: sorry, I did a quick search on google about nvidia/vesa. seems there is a kernel command "-vesa" ?
[01:54] <DasEi> Dr0nE: vesa is a generic driver
[01:54] <ZykoticK9> ActionParsnip, actually any ALT will do ;)
[01:54] <WinstonSmith> ActionParsnip, yes i have that just did not want to walk through that with Jammet :| thx
[01:54] <Dr0nE> DasEi: I believe that might be the reason it crashed after grub altered the menu.lst. It probably removed that tag from the first time fighting to get nvidia working
[01:55] <DasEi> Dr0nE: I doubt it's your menu list, it's your xserver
[01:55] <ActionParsnip> ZykoticK9: oh, thought it was right specific. I always re-enable CAB because its worked for so long and it's weird its been changed
[01:55] <Dr0nE> DasEi: let me to a quick reboot and write down the init message I see.
[01:55] <DasEi> Dr0nE: noo.. no need
[01:56] <DasEi> Dr0nE: dmesg | tail   or  gedit /var/log/syslog
[01:56] <Jammet> WinstonSmith: Done, and I'm back.
[01:56] <lordleemo> /clhttp://pastebin.ca/1928069
[01:56] <Dr0nE> DasEi: that doesn't show up there for some odd reason.
[01:56] <DasEi> Dr0nE: rather try envy one time, else try a 185 for it, check initramfs, update grub again
[01:57] <Doodah> Any help out there for a total newibie to Ubuntu and Linux in general?
[01:57] <WinstonSmith> jammet what about glxgears now?
[01:57] <woeijo> can someone explain to me why the indicator applet is taking roughly 8 icons' worth of space in the task bar?
[01:57] <Jammet> WinstonSmith: No change I'm afraid.
[01:57] <sebsebseb> Doodah: What do you want help with?
[01:57] <coz_> Doodah,  whats the problem
[01:57] <DasEi> Dr0nE: installed envy-gtk ?
[01:57] <Dr0nE> DasEi: i never completely loaded grub-pc as it detected grub was already loaded on mbr. The woe was that it didnt backup menu.lst before writing it's version as it dropped my windows boot
[01:58] <Doodah> I easily downloaded and installed the O/S but cannot get online no matter what I try
[01:58] <Dr0nE> DasEi: not found
[01:58] <sebsebseb> Doodah: ok wireless problem?
[01:58] <Doodah> Yes
[01:58] <Jammet> WinstonSmith: I can see there's probably no point to this. 3D support seems to be broken entirely for me. Why it's like that for some, and not for all users of this card, I don't know. But thank you for trying to help.
[01:58] <rlankfo> Doodah: tons. a good place to start would be the ubuntu documentation https://help.ubuntu.com/
[01:58] <sebsebseb> !wireless | Doodah
[01:58] <DasEi> Dr0nE: envyng-gtk
[01:58] <WinstonSmith> Jammet, no you some messed up config
[01:58] <Dr0nE> DasEi: looked up. its installed now
[01:59] <DasEi> Dr0nE: sudo envyng-gtk
[01:59] <Doodah> I'll have a look.  Thanks.
[01:59] <WinstonSmith> Jammet, if you google around you see a lot of ppl who «have it working
[01:59] <Jammet> WinstonSmith: I have never modified anything about system related files.
[01:59] <WinstonSmith> Jammet, i believe you
[01:59] <wea0> I recently upgraded from kubuntu karmic to lucid. Since that upgrade my system performance has decreased severely. Doing basically anything in Dolphin can make it hang for ~10s and I can't even run Half-Life at a stable 60fps anymore. Any ideas?
[01:59] <Dr0nE> DasEi: several warnings but gui loaded
[01:59] <Jammet> WinstonSmith: Maybe it's because I never did a fresh install and always "upgraded" the system instead.
[01:59] <WXZ1> anyone know how to use the file browser applet?
[01:59] <DasEi> Dr0nE: if it offers any removals, do that first
[02:00] <DasEi> Dr0nE: which warnings ?
[02:00] <WinstonSmith> jammet pastebin your xorg.conf pls
[02:00] <Dr0nE> DasEi: ok, it dumped glx-new and loaded nvidia-mesa driver
[02:00] <Jammet> Sure, but it basically only consists of defaults, and it's tiny. Hold on.
[02:00] <Dr0nE> DasEi: several libglade-WARNING **: could not find a parent that handles internal children for `vbox'
[02:01] <Dr0nE> DasEi: after nvidia removal, it asks to reboot.
[02:01] <OrnateHybrid> Hello
[02:01] <sebsebseb> Doodah: so you can some how try to get it working natively, or possibly use a Windows driver with  Ndiswrapper
[02:01] <DasEi> Dr0nE: old distros are so nice.. hardy had no dkms in default, umm, yes
[02:01] <OrnateHybrid> So
[02:01] <Jammet> WinstonSmith: http://pastebin.ca/1928075
[02:01] <DasEi> Dr0nE: reboot
[02:01] <OrnateHybrid> I've been able to get my Ubuntu 10.04 to recognize and mount my iPod Touch
[02:02] <Dr0nE> DasEi: ok, back in a minute
[02:02] <OrnateHybrid> and I can play music from the iPod Touch through Rhythm Box
[02:02] <OrnateHybrid> but I can't sync to my iPod
[02:02] <OrnateHybrid> I get this funky error
[02:02] <OrnateHybrid> Error while getting peer-to-peer dbus connection: The name :1.60 was not provided by any .service files
[02:02] <OrnateHybrid> Anyone know anything about this? :S
[02:02] <WinstonSmith> jammet do a sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old && sudo service gdm restart
[02:04] <OrnateHybrid> Anyone?
[02:04] <Dr0nE> DasEi: ok, back to full res again.
[02:04] <DasEi> ;-)
[02:04] <Dr0nE> DasEi: and the error never showed (it was a kinit failed to recover message)
[02:05] <Jammet> WinstonSmith: Done.
[02:05] <HungrymaN> I looked around on google before, and supposedly ipod touch syncing was impossible because Apple makes it so that the ipod touch is recognized by computers as a "digital camera"
[02:05] <HungrymaN> *on ubuntu
[02:05] <TiK> w
[02:05] <Dr0nE> DasEi: nvidia driver isn't loaded though (never ran the install in envy)
[02:06] <WinstonSmith> Jammet, does your xorg now looks diffeernt?
[02:06] <DasEi> Dr0nE: one last word, the x-system recently , next to the init has changed in so many ways, I feel hard to go back, and espically that nvidia is flawless through newer distros.. upgrade system , can go directly 8.04 > 10.04
[02:06] <Jammet> WinstonSmith: Now xorg.conf is gone. It's not been re-created automatically, but X works and nothing seems to have been affected about it.
[02:07] <Dr0nE> DasEi: so basicly, you don't think 3d drivers will work effectively now?
[02:07] <DasEi> Dr0nE: if you want to stay with hardy, I#d recommend you to use the propitary driver, least the 185, ifnot 195
[02:07] <Dr0nE> DasEi: ok
[02:07] <DasEi> Dr0nE: but from remote one can easy mess up
[02:08] <WinstonSmith> Jammet, do a : dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg again to see if it recreates it
[02:08] <MaMoUs> i have a problem with America's Army game, i try to login in the game but it say my internet connection is down
[02:09] <Jammet> WinstonSmith: It doesn't recreate that.
[02:09] <User-007> Guys, i have installed libimobiledevices with Squeeze, and i have a 2.30 rhytmbox, but i don't know why, rhytmbox don't recognize my ipod touch 8GB
[02:09] <Jammet> WinstonSmith: Could it be that the current X doesn't need xorg.conf anymore? I read that it was heading that way.
[02:09] <Dr0nE> DasEi: i'll see how it goes. thank's for the help
[02:09] <HungrymaN> you cant use anything other than itunes for an ipod touch. Apple has made it this way
[02:09] <User-007> did one of you ubuntu guys know what must be wrong, since 10.04 works well?
[02:09] <OrnateHybrid> User-007: What version of iOS is your iPod Touch on?
[02:10] <WinstonSmith> Jammet, it doesnt but i thought it would recreate it
[02:10] <DasEi> Dr0nE: but you will have to go the installer way, with sources/headers , build-essential in front and nvidia-xconfig afterwards for best results-- and no idea for hardy noo more
[02:10] <HungrymaN> as of now I do not know of any way to sync an ipod touch through linux
[02:10] <WinstonSmith> Jammet, but still segfault with glxgears?
[02:10] <Jammet> WinstonSmith: Yes.
[02:10] <Dr0nE> DasEi: ok
[02:10] <User-007> OrnateHybrid, 4.0 with Jailbreak
[02:10] <OrnateHybrid> Ok
[02:10] <OrnateHybrid> You're in the same situation as I was I think then
[02:11] <OrnateHybrid> Mine is a 3rd gen 32 GB 4.0 with JB
[02:11] <OrnateHybrid> I'll go grab a link for you
[02:11] <OrnateHybrid> 1 minute
[02:11] <User-007> ty
[02:11] <DasEi> Dr0nE: nvidia released newer drivers, that won't work with that recent xorg-system, but the older ones like 185 should still do
[02:11] <WinstonSmith> jammet im sry but i am at the end of my knowledge ... maybe you should try #xorg or #radeon to expose your problem or ask someone here with more wisdom then me :|
[02:11] <ActionParsnip> HungrymaN: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/03/sync-iphone-and-ipod-touch-in-ubuntu.html
[02:12] <OrnateHybrid> User-007: Try following these instructions: http://maketecheasier.com/sync-rhythmbox-with-ios4-0/2010/08/11
[02:12] <WinstonSmith> Jammet, cause im sure were just missing something .. its not your card
[02:12] <Jammet> WinstonSmith: You tried your best and I'm glad I asked. So no worries. :)
[02:12] <Aimee> hey there, i was in here the other day because i was having problems with my dvd drive not mounting in ubuntu 10.04 64-bit
[02:12] <HungrymaN> wow, things change fast...
[02:12] <Aimee> now, i've found a different issue associated with it
[02:12] <Jammet> WinstonSmith: Possibly, but with the packages required installed - what could there be that's missing? All it takes is X and the driver. That should be it.
[02:13] <WinstonSmith> Jammet, cause at the beginning you had it in framebuffer mode. which definitly will give you no 3D whatsoever
[02:13] <ActionParsnip> Jammet: you can use an xorg.conf but by default ubuntu uses udev. if one exists it will be obeyed
[02:13] <MaMoUs> i have a problem with America's Army game, i try to login in the game but it say my internet connection is down
[02:13] <Jammet> ActionParsnip: Thanks for the info.
[02:13] <ActionParsnip> MaMoUs: have you configured a firewal on the system?
[02:13] <WinstonSmith> ActionParsnip, any ideas about Jammets problem?
[02:14] <Jammet> WinstonSmith: I believe I had the same output at the beginning, but everything except the last 2 lines were already gone from demsg. It's been running for weeks.
[02:14] <MaMoUs> ActionParsnip: no i did not, and i check if it is enable or no it was off
[02:14] <OrnateHybrid> User-007: Also, do you have a passcode lock set on your iPod Touch?
[02:14] <ActionParsnip> WinstonSmith: not sure
[02:14] <MaMoUs> ActionParsnip: do u know how i could fix it ?
[02:15] <ActionParsnip> MaMoUs: can you ping the server ip / name?
[02:15] <Aimee> The computer refused to suspend because there was a cd in the dvd drive
[02:15] <WinstonSmith> ActionParsnip, cause at the bginning he had it in FB mode .... but now the driver loads but still :(
[02:15] <traskmind> Whenever conky first starts up (at login) it is placed above all other windows. If I kill it and start it again it goes below everything just fine, how can I fix this? I have tried "sleep"ing before it loads, but it doesn't work. My conkyrc: http://pastebin.com/3bbMUZFJ
[02:15] <Jammet> WinstonSmith: I've had another problem that I was going to ask about, which was video (xv overlay) related.
[02:15] <Jammet> WinstonSmith: Maybe that one is easier to solve.
[02:15] <WinstonSmith> Jammet, not my field im afraid
[02:16] <Jammet> WinstonSmith: Ah, alright. Maybe I'll ask the 'room' then:
[02:16] <WinstonSmith> Jammet, good luck :D
[02:16] <extraclassic> when I try to enable the explode window animation in compiz settings manager it isn't listed....does anyone know what package it would be in
[02:16] <Jammet> When I watch videos, often I see a large strange triangle shaped video distortion in the top right corner.
[02:17] <Jammet> Has anyone else ever seen that and knows the cause?
[02:17] <OrnateHybrid> Jammet: Are you in the Bermuda Triangle?
[02:17] <Jammet> OrnateHybrid: Nope.
[02:17] <WinstonSmith> extraclassic, compiz-fusion-plugins-extra
[02:17] <OrnateHybrid> Then I have no idea
[02:17] <User-007> OrnateHybrid, humm i think there is no libimobiledevice1
[02:18] <OrnateHybrid> What?
[02:18] <OrnateHybrid> Did you add the repository?
[02:18] <OrnateHybrid> Like the guide said?
[02:18] <Jammet> It looks like the video has a small delay, but only for a portion of the screen, which happens to be the shape of a triangle. It's a really strange looking effect but happens many times.
[02:18] <OrnateHybrid> User-007: If you don't add the repository like the guide says and type the commands just like they say
[02:18] <OrnateHybrid> it won't work
[02:19] <th0r> traskmind: I think that has to do with the sequence things are started at logon. You might try adding conky to .profile or .login or .bashrc (I forget which one(s) ubuntu uses. BTW...there has been a good series on configuring conky at linuxtoday.com
[02:19] <Aimee> Jammet: no solution from me, but question
[02:19] <ariqs> when was 10.04 released?
[02:19] <User-007> hummm
[02:19] <Jammet> Aimee: Yes?
[02:19] <Aimee> Does the triangle inhibit your ability to see that section of video
[02:19] <User-007> ariqs april
[02:19] <ariqs> User-007: thanks, I'm still running hardy.
[02:19] <Aimee> ariqus: The version number is the release date
[02:19] <ariqs> if I want to install 10.04, should I just format the hardy partition first?
[02:20] <Aimee> ariqs: Did you try dist-upgrade?
[02:20] <Daekdroom> ariqs, you can try a direct upgrade from 8.04 to 10.04 as well
[02:20] <Jammet> Aimee: I can still see it, but it appears to be ... ... it's like a really strong vsync problem that's triangle shaped. Hard to explain with words. You can see the part of the video but it lags.
[02:20] <OrnateHybrid> Jammet: If you can't explain it with words, why not take a screenshot?
[02:21] <Jammet> OrnateHybrid: I cannot take a screenshot of an xv'd video? Or can I?
[02:21] <OrnateHybrid> Not sure
[02:21] <Jammet> It'd be just black.
[02:21] <ariqs> I think I've messed with my hardy too much. I was compiling all sorts of things on my own because it was so outdated
[02:21] <OrnateHybrid> The only way to find out is to try? :D
[02:21] <Magnetro> hey DasEi
[02:21] <DasEi> Magnetro : apt is through ?
[02:22] <Magnetro> no..
[02:22] <Magnetro> but what is the update this is?
[02:22] <greezmunkey> Daekdroom: I thought that "upgrading" Ubuntu required that you upgrade to each major release prior to getting to the one you want. Is that wrong?
[02:22] <Jammet> OrnateHybrid: When I press screenshot function keys on mplayer, totem or whatever, it'll not take an actual screenshot with that flaw visible. Doesn't work that way.
[02:22] <Magnetro> I keep seeing flashes of 8.3
[02:22] <OrnateHybrid> Jammet: Got a digital camera? xD
[02:22] <Magnetro> or whatever, shouldn't it be 10. something?
[02:23] <Jammet> OrnateHybrid: Nope. At least none that can take a high quality image to explain it. I could do a mock-up.
[02:23] <OrnateHybrid> TuxPaint? Lol
[02:23] <DasEi> Magnetro: no, you keep hardy, but least with latest patches
[02:23] <SchzawLuke209> how do I download from here?
[02:23] <DasEi> !updates
[02:23] <OrnateHybrid> !fail
[02:23] <Magnetro> oh, ok
[02:23] <jrib> SchzawLuke209: what?
[02:23] <DasEi> !update > Magnetro
[02:24] <SchzawLuke209> how do I find channels to download music and movies?
[02:24] <DIL> lol
[02:24] <WinstonSmith> lol
[02:24] <Magnetro> this place is so useful..
[02:24] <ariqs> anyway, is that how I should go about it? Just simply format the entire ubuntu partition, or is there a more reserved way that gurantees a clean install?
[02:24] <jrib> SchzawLuke209: this channel is for ubuntu support... piracy is *not* on-topic here
[02:24] <Magnetro> I've never go back to windows ever -.-''
[02:24] <OrnateHybrid> SchzawLuke209: If you're looking for pirated music/videos, go to your local police station and askt hem
[02:24] <Licuadora> I cant turn on my PC
[02:25] <DasEi> SchzawLuke209: ubuntu isos ? else change the server
[02:25] <Licuadora> its dead
[02:25] <SchzawLuke209> yea I got that with the whole ubuntu chat channel
[02:25] <hiexpo> we revoke crime here
[02:25] <dominicdinada> OrnateHybrid: that is not a police issue that is more federal level. As Copyright infringement is a federal offense
[02:25] <bastid_raZor> hiexpo: rebuke
[02:25] <Licuadora> Magnetro: until it crashes
[02:25] <OrnateHybrid> True
[02:26] <OrnateHybrid> But not everyone has a local FBI station
[02:26] <Magnetro> lol.
[02:26] <OrnateHybrid> So most likely you'd have to report it to the police
[02:26] <Licuadora> not in México
[02:26] <OrnateHybrid> who would refer it to the FBI
[02:26] <WinstonSmith> Not everyone lives in the U of SA
[02:26] <SchzawLuke209> glad to see theres still a bunch of faggots in the internet thanx for nothing
[02:26]  * WinstonSmith hands SchzawLuke209 a cookie
[02:26] <DIL> you never know there might be one in here
[02:26] <SchzawLuke209> this channel loads by default too its not like I came here on purpose
[02:26] <bastid_raZor> SchzawLuke209: we're not IN the internet.
[02:26] <DasEi> 1,2..
[02:27] <SchzawLuke209> moron
[02:27] <Licuadora> SchzawLuke209: are you talking to the mirror again?
[02:27] <DIL> oh my!
[02:27] <Magnetro> DasEi: it's done
[02:27] <OrnateHybrid> SchzawLuke209: Why don't leave then
[02:27] <OrnateHybrid> Clearly you have no real reason for being here
[02:27] <KB1JWQ> Let us be civil.
[02:27] <Magnetro> It's asking I restart the system.
[02:27] <DrManhattan>  bukkake
[02:27]  * WinstonSmith SchzawLuke209 go play with your toys
[02:27] <Licuadora> YEAH!!
[02:27] <OrnateHybrid> !language DrManhattan
[02:27] <DasEi> Magnetro : sudo apt-get autoremove
[02:28] <DIL> thats what she said
[02:28] <dominicdinada> OrnateHybrid: I am saying that local police cant do anything about it. :/ still wrong but it is on a federal level. That is why VHS Beta DVDs all display the federal warnings :P anyhow were off topic
[02:28] <Magnetro> what does that mean?
[02:28] <DasEi> Magnetro : remove obsolete packages
[02:28] <Magnetro> how come i'm not restarting the computer?
[02:29] <OrnateHybrid> Hmm
[02:29] <Magnetro> ok
[02:29] <Licuadora> IMHO i hate computers.
[02:29] <OrnateHybrid> Maybe
[02:29] <DasEi> Magnetro :it's linux
[02:29] <OrnateHybrid> if I restart my computer
[02:29] <ActionParsnip> Magnetro: sounds like you just got a new kernel, you need to reboot to use the new one
[02:29] <Licuadora> My PC is dead, for some reason it wont start
[02:29] <ActionParsnip> Magnetro: you dont HAVE to reboot though
[02:29] <greezmunkey> Licuadora: These days that's like saying "I hate the wheel".
[02:29] <OrnateHybrid> Licuadora: You should give it a proper funeral
[02:29] <OrnateHybrid> Office Space style
[02:30] <Licuadora> NO!!... My only toy!!!
[02:30] <Magnetro> it says command not found
[02:30] <DasEi> !ot
[02:30] <Jammet> OrnateHybrid: http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/5227/housemdu.jpg    < Here. A mock-up of the effect.
[02:30] <Taev> I accidently deleted a file off my Windows 7 partition called wedalou or something like that, now grub refuses to boot windows 7
[02:30] <Licuadora> Now i have to wite in my wife's pink netbook
[02:30] <Taev> says the file is missing error 15
[02:30] <Licuadora> write]
[02:31] <DasEi> Magnetro : sudo apt-get autoremove       was the last command
[02:31] <extraclassic> in compiz settings manager, I can see extra animations listed under Animations Add-On, but they aren't available under Animations so I don't know how to enable the extras
[02:31] <Magnetro> now what
[02:31] <Jammet> http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/5227/housemdu.jpg  <--- This looks about the same as the distortion I get during video playback. Annoying. Anyone else have that?
[02:31] <PeskyJ> I have a 5-in-1 card reader built into my laptop, but when I put in an xD card from digital camera it doesn't appear, but an old SD card does work - is this xD not supported, or do I need to do something to make it work?
[02:32] <WXZ> I'm trying to run nautilus as root
[02:32] <WXZ> it's stalled 10 times in a row
[02:32] <extraclassic> nevermind....some button i clicked must've worked
[02:32] <DasEi> Magnetro : sudo hwinfo > /home/Bison/Desktop/hwinfo.txt && pastebinit -b http://pastebin.ca /home/Bison/Desktop/hwinfo.txt
[02:32] <Taev> so how do I get grub working again?
[02:32] <WXZ> I feel like punching babies, someone help
[02:33] <Taev> it boots my windows xp partition fine, it just happened after i deleted that file
[02:33] <realcoolguy> I have very slow performance when I move a window around on a netbook, an acer One (somewhat earlier) I know the video ram is quite weak on it.  Is there a trick to get a lot better performance out of it (all effects are already off).
[02:33] <DasEi> Magnetro : give url so I can tell something about your box
[02:33] <Magnetro> what do you mean?
[02:33] <DasEi> Taev: which file ?
[02:34] <Taev> c:\wedalou.txt
[02:34] <Taev> or something like that
[02:34] <JanCBorchardt> I am trying to run the lkl keylogger but it does not accept any keymap file, I always get: unable to find UPPER case keymap file, check it!
[02:34] <Taev> when i select Windows 7 under grub to boot i get "error 15 wedalou file missing"
[02:34] <JanCBorchardt> does anyone know another keylogger? I need it to find out which command a function key issues
[02:34] <PeskyJ> i saw a project called Alauda - which says it has made xD card work, but is this in ubuntu?
[02:35] <greezmunkey> realcoolguy: About all you can do there is add ram, or swap the HDD for a faster one.
[02:35] <bastid_raZor> JanCBorchardt: use 'xev' ..it will detect keypresses
[02:35] <Magnetro> DasEi: ehh, it says no such file or directory..
[02:36] <DasEi> PeskyJ: least no such package
[02:36] <realcoolguy> greezmunkey, I appreciate the sentiment, but Ram is good, it actually has a lot since it came with vista pre-installed.  However it almost feels like I don't have the graphical drivers going.  I think they are intel drivers.  Ram and CPU are not my bottlenecks.
[02:36] <DasEi> Magnetro : sudo apt-get install hwinfo
[02:36] <Daekdroom> realcoolguy, greezmunkey, you can try using a system theme with faster rendering
[02:36] <OrnateHybrid> Jammet: That is really weird lol
[02:36] <DasEi> Magnetro : sudo hwinfo > /home/Bison/Desktop/hwinfo.txt && pastebinit -b http://pastebin.ca /home/Bison/Desktop/hwinfo.txt
[02:36] <OrnateHybrid> It took me awhile to find the triangle, but I found it
[02:36] <DasEi> ^ one long cmd
[02:36] <ActionParsnip> realcoolguy: what is the output of: lspci | grep -i vga
[02:36] <PeskyJ> DasEi: is that the only project that makes xD work?
[02:36] <OrnateHybrid> Are there any triangles like that in any of your other programs/windows? O.o
[02:37] <ActionParsnip> DasEi: you can just run:   sudo hwinfo | pastebinit
[02:37] <JanCBorchardt> bastid_raZor, oh, thanks – that’s what I needed but it does not log this specific function key (it does log volume up / down etc. though)
[02:37] <ActionParsnip> DasEi: or to be really flashy:   sudo hwinfo | pastebinit | xclip     ;)
[02:37] <Jammet> OrnateHybrid: Believe me, once you see it in motion it becomes annoying real quick.
[02:37] <DasEi> ActionParsnip: it's the hardy paster, that complains over two many lines in pipe
[02:37] <greezmunkey> realcoolguy: That was the best I could do with the info you provided. If you think the drivers a borked, fix them!
[02:37] <ActionParsnip> DasEi: ahhhh i see
[02:37] <PeskyJ> maybe it is not even the right thing because I think it is for external card reader, this is internal TI chipset 5-ib-1 reader
[02:38] <DasEi> ActionParsnip: pastebin.caaaaah
[02:38] <famicube64> Kind of stumped here. I just installed VMWare Player and after a reboot the launcher was no longer in the Applications menu. I look at the System section in the menu editor and it's not there either. Anyone know what's going on?
[02:38] <JanCBorchardt> bastid_raZor, it is a function to switch off the backlight LED of the power button. Do you know anything that could help?
[02:38] <wea0> JanCBorchardt: Try acpi_listen to check whether that key generates an acpi event.
[02:38] <ActionParsnip> DasEi: if you pipe the url to xclip it will be ready to paste :)
[02:38] <Magnetro> bash: /home/Bison/Desktop/hwinfo.txt: No such file or directory
[02:38] <DasEi> ActionParsnip: you make magn.. try ;-) ??
[02:38] <Jammet> OrnateHybrid: No, this effect is unique to Linux video playback ...
[02:38] <realcoolguy> ActionParsnip: I know the video ram is really low for this intel model, and my lspci lists an intel compatible VGA controller.  However I remember once upon a time hearing about some trick in gnome to really free up something that helps a lot in my situation.  I guess not bookmarking never pays off.
[02:39] <ActionParsnip> DasEi: my smileys are noseless freaks
[02:39] <bastid_raZor> JanCBorchardt: i do not.
[02:39] <DasEi> Magnetro: you know how to manually paste ?
[02:39] <DasEi> !paste
[02:39] <ActionParsnip> realcoolguy: the command will tell you exactly what it is, can you give the exact output please, can you also give the make and model netbook
[02:39] <OrnateHybrid> ActionParsnip: Someone "got their nose" as a baby and never gave it back
[02:39] <Magnetro> manually paste?
[02:40] <Magnetro> I've been keying what you tell me to put into the CL
[02:40] <ActionParsnip> realcoolguy: the model of acer one will be on the bottom
[02:40] <DasEi> Magnetro: call http://paste.ubuntu.com in browser
[02:40] <ActionParsnip> OrnateHybrid: exactly
[02:40] <WinstonSmith> famicube64, look at system>prefernces>main menu and disable & reenable the entry
[02:40] <DasEi> Magnetro: enter sudo hwinfo in terminal
[02:40] <JanCBorchardt> wea0, acpi_listen does not print anything for both simple character keys and function keys. Am I missing something?
[02:40] <DasEi> Magnetro: copy the terminal output to browser
[02:41] <famicube64> I tired that, VMWare isn't there anymore
[02:41] <Magnetro> my internet browser is gone
[02:41] <Magnetro> o.o
[02:41] <DasEi> Magnetro: firefox in terminal
[02:41] <Magnetro> err..how?
[02:41] <wea0> JanCBorchardt: It works only for special keys that generate acpi events. If your key doesn't do that, then it won't show up in acpi_listen.
[02:41] <DasEi> Magnetro: enter firefox
[02:41] <Magnetro> sudo apt-get firefox
[02:41] <Magnetro> ohh
[02:41] <extraclassic> anyone in here using GnoMenu with 10.04
[02:42] <DasEi> sudo apt-get install firefox , there by default, magnetro
[02:42] <JanCBorchardt> wea0, ok, do you know any other option?
[02:42] <wea0> no
[02:43] <cxmatias> hey
[02:43] <cxmatias> hey
[02:43] <JanCBorchardt> wea0, bastid_raZor: Thanks anyway :)
[02:43] <Magnetro> it says it downloaded firefox, yet I don't see it..
[02:43] <DasEi> Magnetro: copy the info from hwinfo to http://paste.ubuntu.com, add your name, press post, give url from browser here
[02:43] <cxmatias> someone already fix the problem with mobile media converter on linux mint, if you did it please helme how to
[02:43] <cxmatias> ???
[02:44] <bastid_raZor> !mintsupport | cxmatias
[02:44] <cxmatias> ok thanks
[02:44] <bastid_raZor> cxmatias: good luck.
[02:44] <ActionParsnip> Magnetro: sudo apt-get install --reinstall install firefox; firefox &
[02:44] <greezmunkey> realcoolguy: Does this jog your memory any? :http://www.linux-netbook.com/video/how-to-improve-kde-plasma-netbook-performance
[02:45] <cxmatias> hoo, ther is nole myself in that chanel
[02:45] <cxmatias> i am the only ane in that chanel
[02:46] <Magnetro> DasEi: i'm waiting for the reinstallation of firefix
[02:46] <realcoolguy> ActionParsnip:  You're too helpful lol
[02:46] <DasEi> y
[02:46] <enhu> :D
[02:46] <ActionParsnip> greezmunkey: big difference there dude
[02:47] <Maletor> ActionParsnip is the man
[02:47] <ActionParsnip> realcoolguy: number 2 in launchpad contributors ;)
[02:47] <Magnetro> Because it was missing.
[02:47] <ActionParsnip> Maletor: thanks dude :)
[02:47] <Magnetro> got it back tho
[02:47] <Maletor> ActionParsnip: no problem, enjoy your Saturday night :)
[02:48] <Magnetro> Ubunru 8.04..?
[02:48] <ActionParsnip> Maletor: working hard til 7am dude. 5 hours to go
[02:48] <Magnetro> I thoughtI upgraded it to a higher version...
[02:48] <Magnetro> I think I actually downgraded..
[02:48] <Magnetro> -.- ugh..
[02:49] <dug_> test
[02:49] <ActionParsnip> !test | dug
[02:49] <DasEi> !hi | dug_
[02:49] <DasEi> hehe
[02:49] <enhu> which fedora spin will work on a cpu with 512RAM?
[02:49] <pie_time> I cant seem to get my samba shares to show up on my computer
[02:49] <enhu> :D
[02:50] <bastidrazor> enhu: xubuntu will do well.
[02:50] <Magnetro> DasEi: How can I just update my program?
[02:50] <enhu> bastidrazor thanks
[02:50] <DasEi> enhu: it's ubuntu here, yes xubu or a suited system
[02:50] <Magnetro> to like 10. w/e
[02:50] <pie_time> both of my computers are named ubuntu
[02:50] <pie_time> what do i do
[02:50] <DasEi> !dist-upgrade | magnetro
[02:51] <DasEi> !upgrade
[02:51] <Magnetro> !upgrade
[02:51] <Magnetro> ?
[02:51] <undifined> enhu, my eeepc runs xubuntu with 512 mb and it is fast for normal desktop use
[02:51] <famicube64> Fixed the VMware issue. If you manually create the launcher in the menu is stays after a reboot. Thanks for trying to help.
[02:51] <DasEi> magnetro: you call the upgrade-manager, but what about your hardware ?
[02:52] <pie_time> both of my computers are named "ubuntu" and and I cant get either computer to show up on the other's network!
[02:52] <Magnetro> what do you mean Dasei?
[02:52] <dug_> pie_time: gksudo gedit /etc/hostname
[02:52] <DasEi> pie_time: sudo hostname OtherHostname
[02:52] <bastidrazor> !hostname
[02:52] <extraclassic> pie_time: the computers should have their own name and be in the same workgroup
[02:53] <dug_> !irc
[02:53] <DasEi> magnetro: the paste of hwinfo ?
[02:53] <jk_> !nfs
[02:53] <jk_> !nfs | pie_time
[02:53] <Magnetro> I don't even know what that is..
[02:53] <bastidrazor> pie_time: or you could install openssh-server on both boxes then go to Places > Connect to Server > Method SSH and use the internal IP, also create a bookmark and the files on the other box will be viewable/mounted when clicking on the bookmark
[02:54] <DasEi> pie_time: and in the same network-segment of course
[02:56] <Blackweb> I was just wondering if anyone could help me out, I have GnomeBaker, & Brasero burning software, & everytime i use either of them sometimes they work, but most often then not Brasero will get to the point of creating the checksum image then crash/close unexpectedly, & GnomeBaker does the same thing, but crashes just after i click burn
[02:57] <pie_time> bastidrazor, now im getting some error saying "sudo: unable to resolve host ubuntupc"
[02:57] <Blackweb> I thought I remember seeing something on the Internet about modifying a a system file with the permissions or something, would anyone know how to fix or get it to work
[02:57] <bastidrazor> pie_time: you did not follow the ubottu instructions.
[02:57] <bastidrazor> !hostname | pie_time
[02:58] <extraclassic> pie_time: you should mount the share...it'd be easier than using the network browser
[02:58] <DigitalDeviant> I am currently running ubuntu server 10.4 as a lamp server. It is behind a firewall, but i am looking for something software wise that will allow me to configure any attempts to access the SSH port or ftp port and ban the ip address after a few attempts. Is there one out there that can do that for me?
[02:58] <pie_time> bastidrazor, is my system screwed now?
[02:58] <Magnetro> DasEi: what happens if I restart my computer?
[02:59] <bastidrazor> DigitalDeviant: fail2ban can do this.
[02:59] <wea0> I recently upgraded from kubuntu karmic to lucid. Since that upgrade my system performance has decreased severely. Doing basically anything in Dolphin can make it hang for ~10s and I can't even run Half-Life at a stable 60fps anymore. Any ideas?
[02:59] <DigitalDeviant> is fail2ban apart of apt-get ?
[02:59] <DasEi> magnetro: you will possibly reboot in a newer kernel, though won't "see" any difference
[02:59] <bastidrazor> DigitalDeviant: yes.
[02:59] <pie_time> bastidrazor, is my system screwed now?
[02:59] <gh0st> whot
[02:59] <DigitalDeviant> pretty easy to setup as well?
[02:59] <Magnetro> BAd?
[02:59] <Magnetro> *Bad?
[02:59] <gh0st> where is the security apps ircs?
[03:00] <DasEi> DigitalDeviant: it's a soft-packe with safe defaults
[03:00] <DasEi> package
[03:00] <ActionParsnip> DigitalDeviant: http://www.directadmin.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-16589.html
[03:00] <realcoolguy> wea0 sounds like you need to get your graphics drivers going again.  run glxgears from a terminal and tell me if they are running smoothly.  (Nvidia or ATI install if they aren't running right)
[03:00] <DigitalDeviant> Thanks ActionParsnip
[03:00] <DasEi> magnetro: no, can do it
[03:01] <bastidrazor> pie_time: no, you need to have /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts match for your hostname.. you may need to boot to command prompt to fix since sudo is broken.
[03:01] <Magnetro> won't lose anything either right, lol.
[03:01] <SupraMKIII> Hey guys. Seems like a weird request but I need help uninstalling GRUB and making Windows' MBR fix itself.
[03:01] <gh0st> guys where are the IRCs for hacking and stuff?
[03:01] <wea0> realcoolguy: Driver is working; 60000f/5s
[03:01] <pie_time> bastidrazor, there's nothing in /etc/hostname.conf that has anything to do with hosts
[03:01] <TWEP191> Is anyone able to help me with ibus?
[03:01] <DasEi> gh0st: google knows
[03:02] <TWEP191> ive searched on google and the forums
[03:02] <TWEP191> and tried everything but it still doesnt work for me
[03:02] <gh0st> yea I knew it
[03:02] <realcoolguy> wea0: Well THAT is interesting now isn't it? :)
[03:02] <bastidrazor> pie_time: i did not say /etc/hostname.conf but i did say "/etc/hostname"
[03:02] <extraclassic> SupraMKIII: Windows overrides grub, so you could install linux first, then windows and it'd be the main bootloader.....don't know how other than that
[03:02] <gh0st> well
[03:02] <gh0st> does someone here know about security ?
[03:03] <bastidrazor> DigitalDeviant: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fail2ban
[03:03] <SupraMKIII> extraclassic: Here's the scenario. I had installed both Windows and Ubuntu, then got rid of the partition Ubuntu was on. Now Grub won't load anything correctly and I just want Windows back.
[03:04] <jk_> pie_time, in a terminal, type "hostname" and see what it returns. Then type "cat /etc/hosts" and see what name it shows for address 127.0.1.1. These should both be the same for sudo to work. If they are not, reboot into recovery mode and edit one or the other. In recovery mode you will be "root" so won't need sudo to do the edits.
[03:04] <DasEi> gh0st: hacking ? there is #bash, security in which matter ?
[03:04] <dug_> apparently the smuxi irc client grabs your real name and automatically connects you to irc channels the first time you start it, geez
[03:04] <DigitalDeviant> thanks for your help guys, i really appreciate it
[03:04] <extraclassic> SupraMKIII: so you only have windows now but grub is still in the MBR?
[03:05] <DasEi> SupraMKIII: either keep using grub or use a tool as fixmbr
[03:05] <SupraMKIII> extraclassic: Yes
[03:05] <SupraMKIII> DasEi: I'm trying fixmbr now, hopefully it'll work.
[03:05] <CoconutCrab> hello everyone, has anyone met this problem of mine? I copy a file using the terminal from location A to B, then after that I can see it using ls, check it content using cat but can't open it using vi/nano/emacs/gedit/whatever
[03:05] <WXZ> is there a way to move all the files
[03:05] <CoconutCrab> they all say 'new file'
[03:05] <WXZ> from one folder to another using terminal?
[03:05] <WXZ> not one by one
[03:05] <CoconutCrab> but ed works :-/
[03:06] <DasEi> WXZ: yes, -r option
[03:06] <SupraMKIII> DasEi: Thanks a ton, fixmbr seems to have worked!
[03:06] <DasEi> WXZ: man rsync
[03:06] <extraclassic> SupraMKIII: can you access that partition in windows, or is it just sitting there
[03:06] <WXZ> ok
[03:06] <realcoolguy> CoconutCrab: what are the permissions for the file?  You could try a sudo vi on the file for fun.
[03:06] <ActionParsnip> CoconutCrab: is it writable by your username
[03:07] <CoconutCrab> realcoolguy and ActionParsnip: Yes, its permission is 644
[03:07] <CoconutCrab> so I can write to it
[03:10] <Crankygeek> I am trying to upload files to Apache on Ubuntu but it keeps telling me the permissions are wrong, any ideas on how to change parms?
[03:10] <ActionParsnip> CoconutCrab: what is output in terminal when you open it in nano (except the file opening ./ not opening)
[03:10] <KB1JWQ> Crankygeek: That'd be chmod, Bob.
[03:10] <CoconutCrab> this is the second time I meet this problem, the last time it went away when I restart the computer
[03:10] <CoconutCrab> ActionParsnip: it says 'New file'
[03:11] <CoconutCrab> while I can see it using ls or its content via cat
[03:11] <carl_fr> does jamin work for anyone on lucid
[03:11] <extraclassic> SupraMKIII: you're gonna have a useless partition sitting there that windows won't be able to see...you might be able to use gparted or something and reformat it to FAT32 or NTFS so you could store files there and all that
[03:12] <danielsavage> hello. I have 3 weird partitions that show up on livecd file browser, but with names like 1lk352j.  What got screwed up and what utility can I use to set these volumes straight again?
[03:12] <ActionParsnip> CoconutCrab: all I can suggest is log a bug
[03:12] <ActionParsnip> danielsavage: the name is quite transient. Is the data on them ok
[03:12] <Hopsa> Crankygeek: Be careful to get this right, but to change owener and group recursively on a directory structure you can do this: chown -R /Some/Path/Here/And/Make/Sure/Its/Not / or /home or something stupid.
[03:12] <ActionParsnip> !label | danielsavage
[03:12] <danielsavage> one is ubuntu, the other is a corrupted ubuntu and the last is vista
[03:12] <Crankygeek> I am not sure what I should change the permissions to, to be able to upload to Apache, I would just like to add my username, so that the site stays secure
[03:12] <CoconutCrab> ActionParsnip: yes, maybe I should do so
[03:12] <danielsavage> data is okay
[03:13]  * CoconutCrab is wondering if this has anything to do with the fact that he encrypt his home
[03:13] <Hopsa> Crankygeek: Be careful to get this right, but to change owner and group recursively on a directory structure you can do this: chown -R Username:Groupname /Some/Path/Here/And/Make/Sure/Its/Not / or /home or something stupid.
[03:13] <Hopsa> Sorry
[03:13] <forge_> trying to remove ubuntu and grub and rewrite a windows mbr on a dual booted laptop so I can give it back to my dad
[03:13] <TWEP191> can anyone help me with ibus? I have searched on google and tried all the methods and it still doesnt work for me
[03:13] <forge_> does anyone know how to do this
[03:14] <danielsavage> ubottu: this is one internal drive with 3 partitions
[03:14] <extraclassic> forge_: just reinstall windows and repartition everything
[03:14] <forge_> I don't have a windows install disk
[03:14] <forge_> or a recovery disk
[03:14] <Hopsa> forge_: Boot a dos disk and format c:
[03:14] <DasEi> forge: or delete ubu from windows and run fixmbr
[03:14] <Roasted> Is there any way within Ubuntu to run a command and perhaps see who's connected to my apache/ubuntu web server?
[03:15] <forge_> can I do something from a live cd of ubuntu
[03:15] <DasEi> Roasted: who
[03:15] <Hopsa> Huu, horrid thought. DOS :P
[03:15] <danielsavage> gparted shows that the whole volume dev/sda is unallocated
[03:15] <DasEi> forge_: yes, can give it back empty
[03:15] <Hopsa> Yeah, gparted is the way to go
[03:15] <forge_> I would love to use something like ms-sys
[03:16] <forge_> but I tried it and I still have problems
[03:16] <bastidrazor> Roasted: look at the access logs of apache?
[03:16] <forge_> I got ride of the partition and tried to write a new mbr to the partition with ms-sys
[03:17] <forge_> and tried to reboot then grub still showed up I think I must have done it wrong
[03:18] <forge_> well anyways the computer hangs at grub start up
[03:18] <Roasted> bastidrazor, do you know offhand where theyre located?
[03:18] <forge_> DasEi, I can not give it back empty
[03:18] <bastidrazor> Roasted: /var/log/apache2/
[03:18] <TWEP191> can anyone help me with ibus? I have searched on google and tried all the methods and it still doesnt work for me
[03:18] <Hopsa> forge_: Cant you just install windoz on it and itll wipe averything irregardless of users choise ? :)
[03:19] <Hopsa> everything
[03:19] <forge_> Hopsa, if I had a windows disk
[03:19] <Poison> I'm having a problem I've never run into on apache2+php5. http://localhost/index.php loads fine, but just http://localhost/ downloads the script itself, rather than parsing through php as it should...
[03:19] <DasEi> forge_: if you just removee grub, win won't boot, else need a win recovery-cd , ask in #windows
[03:19] <Hopsa> forge_: Use gparted, its a very nice media handling tool.
[03:19] <forge_> Hopsa, i know
[03:20] <Hopsa> forge_: Or perhaps help your father with Linux ?
[03:20] <Rob235> hey
[03:20] <forge_> Hopsa, but I don't think it will write a windows mbr
[03:20] <forge_> Hopsa, and that is a lost cause
[03:20] <Rob235> is there a way to save a list of installed programs in synaptic package manager for when i reinstall ubuntu?
[03:21] <Hopsa> forge_: It will write vfat etc, np.
[03:21] <TWEP191> write them down on paper?
[03:21] <IdleOne> !clone > Rob235
[03:21] <th0r> Rob235: look at aptoncd
[03:21] <forge_> Hopsa, write a new one so I would lose the partition
[03:21] <DasEi> !clone | Rob235
[03:22] <Rob235> thanks
[03:22] <DasEi> sry, not seen, IdleOne
[03:22] <IdleOne> DasEi: no worries
[03:22] <Rob235> after i reinstall everything should i copy over my home folder?
[03:22] <Hopsa> forge_: Yes, how else do you think you could put windoz on the partition. Maybe if you had Linux running on vfat, but noone would want that slow FS.
[03:22] <Rob235> or could that have bad results
[03:23] <th0r> Rob235: you might consider, if you had a separate /home you could reinstall / and leave /home intact
[03:23] <th0r> Rob235: so you might want to set it up that way for the reinstall...just in case
[03:23] <DasEi> Rob235: backing up/ copying home folder is no problem, as there are no configs for usual, seperate /home eases it, can then keep it at next re-install
[03:23] <IdleOne> !separatehome | Rob235
[03:23] <danielsavage> The gparted will not let me relabel these
[03:23] <Rob235> thanks for the help
[03:24] <a1fa> is there a console tool to check the validity of a disk via smart or whatever?
[03:24] <Rob235> i hope i have enough space to backup my home dir, i think i do
[03:24] <forge_> Hopsa, well I was hoping I could use the existing windows partition
[03:24] <DasEi> a1fa: smartmontools
[03:24] <a1fa> thanks
[03:24] <Rob235> can i use dd to write my home dir into an iso file to make it easier?
[03:24] <Rob235> i dont know how dd works that well
[03:25] <a1fa> dmesg is not reporting any issues.. i cant use cfdisk to edit the drive
[03:25] <Hopsa> forge_: Maybe if you get it to become the primary partition, or is it that already ?
[03:25] <a1fa> dmesg reports all partitions as normal
[03:25] <Hopsa> forge_: You could edit the partition table, but its a bit tricky as its in HEX code mostlyyyyyyyyyyyy.
[03:25] <DasEi> Rob235: could, but I'd rather use rsync, unless want to clone a parttion, faster and can be resumed/progress easier watched
[03:26] <owen1_> i don't want graphical login. the problem i have is when i upgrade it shows up again. what is the best way to get rid of it forever?
[03:26] <forge_> Hopsa, well I just need to rewrite the mbr really
[03:26] <Hopsa> Stupid cola soaked keyboard... sorry for the extra y:s
[03:26] <extraclassic> forge_: you could try fixmbr to get the windows bootloader then use gparted to format the linux partition to NTFS
[03:26] <shazz-ubuntu> Hi there, does anyone know the best way to resize their, currently mounted, main partition?
[03:26] <DasEi> owen1_: headless ?
[03:26] <forge_> extraclassic, if I had a windows recovery disk to use fixmbr
[03:26] <shazz-ubuntu> I accidently made it too small
[03:26] <forge_> extraclassic, so i need something to do that in a live cd
[03:26] <Hopsa> forge_: Naah, because then your new mbr will be crated without knowledge of the partitions.
[03:26] <owen1_> DasEi: but i use lubunu/xubuntu
[03:27] <Hopsa> crated/created
[03:27] <extraclassic> forge_: i don't know about it really but you might be able to find a download and put it on a floppy
[03:27] <ilovefairuz> forge_: http://robert.penz.name/221/mini-howto-restore-windows-mbrbootloader-with-linux/
[03:27] <DasEi> owen1_: you want no desktop or just no login ?
[03:27] <owen1_> DasEi: what is the replacement for .xinitrc when using a graphical login?
[03:27] <shazz-ubuntu> I remember there being a tiny linux distro that just allowed you to resize partitions
[03:27] <Hopsa> forge_: Do you have another linux computer with space to hold this computers /home ?
[03:27] <owen1_> DasEi: no graphical login
[03:27] <shazz-ubuntu> and you can stick it on a usb drive or something
[03:28] <shazz-ubuntu> anyone know what I'm talking about?
[03:28] <ilovefairuz> shazz-ubuntu: "parted magic"
[03:28] <DasEi> owen1_: you can have automatic login, so it boots directly to desktop
[03:28] <nesbitt> please help:  my computer is connected to my router vie ethernet, and until today everything was fine. today i can connect to the router, but not the internet. (through browser or pinging google) i have tried restarting the computer and the router
[03:28] <shazz-ubuntu> ilovefairuz: I think that's it, thanks!
[03:28] <owen1_> DasEi: i am ok with typing the login info. i just don't want graphical one.
[03:29] <th0r> nesbitt: sounds like you might have an isp problem
[03:29] <ilovefairuz> nesbitt: sudo killall dhclient && sudo dhclient eth0
[03:29] <greezmunkey> nesbitt: ping 4.2.2.2 - do you get a reply?
[03:29] <Crankygeek> Hello, I just installed Apache, I am trying to ftp some files over to the /var/www but the owner is root. how can I add my user to this folder to allow uploading to it. I am on Ubuntu 10.4 LTS....is there a graphical utility that I can use to change permissions, I am not sure on the whole chmod command
[03:29] <DasEi> owen1_: either you start gdm (or xdm or kdm..)  or you just boot to a tty, either with or without login
[03:29] <ilovefairuz> nesbitt: pastebin the output
[03:30] <ilovefairuz> !paste | nesbitt
[03:30] <nesbitt> greezmunkey: yes, i do
[03:30] <extraclassic> does anyone know how to fix gnome to align my icons properly...i have auto-align selected already - http://content.screencast.com/users/j_barnett/folders/Default/media/eb672b79-1028-49bb-ac4b-476684d92cd5/gnome.png
[03:30] <greezmunkey> nesbitt: your DNS is failing you then. Try what ilovefairuz mentioned to refresh your connection.
[03:30] <owen1_> DasEi: do u know how to run apps on startup? i used .xinitrc whenever i had text-based login.
[03:30] <forge_> Hopsa, i don't care about what is on the drive i just need windows working it could be blank for all I care I just don't have a copy of windows to install so i need to use the existing one
[03:31] <bastidrazor> Crankygeek: just change the www folder to your user and group .. sudo chmod -R $USER:www-data /var/www      you can leave the $USER there. it will rename it to your
[03:31] <nesbitt> ilovefairuz: greezmunkey: "dhclient: no process found"
[03:31] <ilovefairuz> nesbitt: ok just: sudo dhclient eth0
[03:31] <greezmunkey> nesbitt: do this then: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[03:31] <DasEi> owen1_: either create a script in /etc/init  or call by rc.local, cron is another option
[03:31] <forge_> ilovefairuz, I have seen this guide before and have tried both methods on the correct partition but something else is wrong
[03:32] <spartan> hola
[03:32] <Hopsa> forge_: A DOS floppy then or a bootable linux cd or so ? All you need to do is remove all partitions on it and format it.
[03:32] <ilovefairuz> !es | spartan
[03:32] <nesbitt> ilovefairuz: it appears i don't have dhclient installed, greezmunkey: "sudo: /etc/init.d/network: command not found" :S
[03:32] <owen1_> DasEi: got it
[03:32] <ilovefairuz> nesbitt: sudo service networking restart
[03:32] <forge_> Hopsa, but that would leave me with a lack of a working windows partition
[03:33] <greezmunkey> nesbitt: do this then: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[03:33] <DasEi> owen1_: if you take a look at the files in /etc/init , get the idea
[03:34] <extraclassic> forge_: you could try something in Ultimate Boot CD
[03:34] <DasEi> !init > owen1_
[03:34] <forge_> extraclassic, what to be exact?
[03:35] <extraclassic> forge_: it comes with a bunch of freeware tools, so it has several for boot management...you could read about them and maybe find one that does what you need
[03:35] <nesbitt> ilovefairuz, greezmunkey: http://paste.ubuntu.com/485236/
[03:36] <forge_> extraclassic, I will look into this right now
[03:36] <ilovefairuz> nesbitt: does it work now?
[03:37] <greezmunkey> nesbitt: wierd, you could try : sudo service networking restart as ilovefairuz suggested. Otherwise I would restart it.
[03:37] <nesbitt> ilovefairuz: no :( "ping: unknown host www.google.com"
[03:38] <ilovefairuz> nesbitt: sudo service network-manager restart
[03:38] <nesbitt> ilovefairuz, greezmunkey: from "sudo service networking restart" i get "restart: Unkown instance:"
[03:38] <skumara> hi. is there any way i can group recently used program shortcut in the menu for easy access like in mswin?
[03:38] <ilovefairuz> nesbitt: try the network-manager one
[03:39] <test34> join #css
[03:39] <nesbitt> ilovefairuz: network-manager start/running, process 5064, but still no internet
[03:39] <forge_> extraclassic, I guess I could try a supergrub disk
[03:39] <DasEi> nesbitt: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[03:39] <ilovefairuz> nesbitt: pastebin: traceroute 8.8.8.8
[03:39] <greezmunkey> nesbitt: restart it, without knowing your system there is no telling how much stuff is hung, or crashed.
[03:39] <Hopsa> forge_: You say that the data on your HD is null and void and the whole disk can be formatted. Yet you feel consearned about your partitions ?. You refuse to backup the windows partitions data and format the whole HD. I call troll.
[03:40] <pranay_09> i am not able to start any applet in firefox, I am using firefox 3.6.3 and in it's plugin folder in /usr/lib/firefox-3.6.3/plugins i even have added the libjavaplugin_oji.son file still not working.
[03:40] <extraclassic> forge_: i haven't used any of those tools, i just knew it existed.....you'll have to experiment and hopefully at least get windows to boot
[03:40] <Jordan_U> Hopsa: I disagree strongly, he has an almost bootable windows system and no windows install CD, not wanting to lose everything is perfectly reasonable.
[03:41] <bastidrazor> Crankygeek: paste the exact command you used.
[03:41] <nesbitt> DasEi: http://paste.ubuntu.com/485236/, ilovefairuz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/485239/
[03:41] <Jordan_U> forge_: Could you run boot info script as explained here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1291280 and pastebin the RESULTS.txt ?
[03:41] <greezmunkey> nesbitt: traceroute6 ??
[03:42] <ilovefairuz> nesbitt: why did you add "6" ?
[03:42] <Hopsa> Jordan_U: But he must get rid of the linux partition and for some reason formatting it to fat or some other windows partition table via gparted wont be enough ?
[03:42] <nesbitt> greezmunkey: i don't have traceroute installed, and autocomplete gave me traceroute6 :S
[03:42] <Crankygeek> bastidrazor: I just copied and pasted the command you sent me......chmod -R $USER:www-data /var/www
[03:42] <ilovefairuz> nesbitt: what ubuntu version are you using?
[03:42] <greezmunkey> nesbitt: you could have restarted it by now, and known for sure it wasn't just that...
[03:42] <Jordan_U> Hopsa: He nees windows bootable without grub before he removes the filesytem grub's files are on.
[03:42] <bastidrazor> Crankygeek: did you prepend it with sudo?
[03:43] <forge_> Hopsa, the thing is I need to do it today and i don't have any of the windows disk and I had a working windows partition an hour ago and I just need to get rid of windows and grub because my dad wants this laptop and he does not want ubuntu
[03:43] <Crankygeek> Yes
[03:43] <nesbitt> ilovefairuz, 10.04 greezmunkey: going down for restart
[03:43] <bastidrazor> Crankygeek: what was the exact error?
[03:43] <DasEi> nesbitt: no inet but pastebin works ? pastebinit /etc/network/interfaces  , route -n | pastebinit
[03:43] <MFen> is there *any* nice, GUI- or browser-based way to add an apt repository to someone's system?
[03:43] <forge_> Hopsa, and I could have just made my Ubuntu partitions smaller but i though it would be easy to remove them
[03:43] <nesbitt> DasEi: my laptop has internet, desktop doesn't
[03:43] <sacarlson> what can I use to zoom in on any application to make it bigger for me to see.  I saw ezoom in google but don't see it in repository.  is there something like that?
[03:44] <MFen> i want to push an internal apt repo to my internal ubuntu users, for whom i am a pseudo-admin
[03:44] <DasEi> nesbitt: ic
[03:44] <Crankygeek> chmod: cannot access 'matt:www-data': Noo such file exsists
[03:44] <DasEi> MFen: synaptic
[03:44] <Jordan_U> MFen: The intructions on every ppa page use the GUI.
[03:44] <skumara> sacarlson press and hold superkey and use ur mouse wheele to zoom.
[03:44] <bastidrazor> Crankygeek: my bad.. i gave you chmod when you should be using chown
[03:44] <bruenig> Crankygeek: switch -R and $USER:www-data in that command
[03:44] <bruenig> oh and that
[03:44] <forge_> Jordan_U, give me a second
[03:44] <bruenig> heh
[03:45] <nesbitt> greezmunkey: restarted, symptoms persist...
[03:45] <sacarlson> skumara: superkey?  is that on the mouse?
[03:45] <extraclassic> forge_: if you can manage to boot into windows you can probably edit boot.ini to allow you to boot into a recovery console and use fixmbr
[03:45] <Hopsa> forge_: accepted.
[03:46] <skumara> superkey is the key in keyboard with windows sign in it. usually beside fn key in laptop.
[03:46] <jamie_> 'sudo service module-init-tools start' not working - getting 'stop/waiting' and I still show 0C in my conky for cpu/gpu/hdd temps...
[03:46] <MFen> while we're at it, are there any good centralized administration toolkits for ubuntu?
[03:46] <jamie_> skumara you mean the one between the Ctrl and Alt that should have a penguin on it? ;-)
[03:47] <sacarlson> skumara: ok that didn't seem to work so do I need compiz running for that to be operational?
[03:47] <Jordan_U> sacarlson: It's the key with the superhero cape on it that many mistake for a windows logo :)
[03:47] <forge_> extraclassic, I just stuck at grub loading
[03:47] <Hopsa> forge_: If it had been windows 95 or 98 you could have run: sys c: from a dos floppy i guess, but to change to a new bootloader (windows nt) and still keep the partition... naah..
[03:47] <forge_> extraclassic, which is why I though I could use supergrub to fix grub and just leave grub running and get into windows and not have any linux partitions
[03:48] <extraclassic> forge_: can you get to a shell and run sudo update-grub
[03:48] <jamie_> Trying to instert kernel modules for temp sensors on my MB, and I got them detected, but can't get them started - anyone have a clue?
[03:48] <skumara> sacarlson, yes. compiz required. jamie_ do u actually have a keyboard with tux sitting on the superkey...
[03:48] <sacarlson> Jordan_U: I tried all those near my alt key at the bottom of my keyboard that I never used none seem to do it.
[03:48] <jamie_> skumara well, a sticker is all it takes :-P
[03:48] <nesbitt> DasEi: pastebinit not installed, but: http://paste.ubuntu.com/485242/
[03:49] <forge_> extraclassic, maybe it goes into the grub recovery shell
[03:49] <Crankygeek> bastidrazor:  That command went through now, but now I cannot even browse the /var/www folder......I was able to FTP a file though
[03:49] <jamie_> skumara one with a pipe in his mouth (church of bob? old school slack, etc)
[03:49] <ZykoticK9> jamie_, if you type "sensors" in a terminal are the values zeros?
[03:49] <sacarlson> skumara: ok so now I will have to install my nvidia drivers and install compiz to give that a try.  I just needed something in compiz that was needed before I tried it.
[03:50] <bastidrazor> Crankygeek: if your user owns the directory, you shold be able to do anything you wish to it.
[03:50] <jamie_> ZykoticK9 no, they show up.... didn't try that lol - but my conky is wonky :-/
[03:50] <ZykoticK9> jamie_, i use the sensors command in my conky, an example for my CPU line looks like "CPU: ${goto 868}${execi 4 sensors | grep -A 0 'CPU Temperature' | cut -c21-24} ºC"
[03:51] <skumara> sacarlson, just use kmag... it will magnify the part of the screen around your mouse pointer. the super key stuff was just cool anyway..
[03:51] <foureight84> is there away to add a search bar to the ubuntu netbook menu?
[03:51] <jamie_> ZykoticK9 also it doesn't show my ATI card (an HD4650) when i do 'sensors' in xterm...
[03:51] <DasEi> nesbitt: 169.254.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.0.0 U 1000 0 0 eth0  is  a sign for a failed dhcp, is where the route interrupts
[03:51] <ZykoticK9> jamie_, no i doubt it would - sorry i'm no help with ATI stuff - good luck
[03:52] <foureight84> so that you can just type in an app and it shows up on the right hand side
[03:52] <nesbitt> ilovefairuz, greezmunkey, DasEi: thanks for your help.  any other ideas?
[03:52] <extraclassic> forge_: i found this - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[03:52] <jamie_> ZykoticK9 Thanks for the code bit - that looks like it should help much :-)
[03:52] <forge_> Jordan_U, here is the pastie of the script output  http://pastie.org/1123450
[03:52] <bastidrazor> Crankygeek: add your user to the www-data group.  sudo adduser matt www-data   :assuming your username is matt
[03:53] <jamie_> skumara - check diff distro's for swag shops and get some stickers, and put a tux one on your mod+4 key (super, apple, command, whatever you have haha and "have a lot of fun!")
[03:53] <jamie_> Thanks all!
[03:53] <nesbitt> DasEi: i see... i had changed that file to make my computer static ip, but it's been working for ages, then mysteriously stopped. i was using vpnc yesterday, but that couldn't hurt could it?
[03:53] <Jordan_U> forge_: Is that really windows 95 that's installed?
[03:53] <forge_> Jordan_U, no xp
[03:53] <ilovefairuz> nesbitt: you can't have trouceroute6 without traceroute!
[03:54] <sacarlson> skumara: I was watching some video on youtube that they zoom in on stuf so you can read it.  that must be compiz superkey thing.  too late my nvidia drivers downloading and installing as we speek.
[03:54] <Crankygeek> bastidrazor: Thank you very much for your help, I am the owner of it, I had to go to permissions and give myself CREATE AND DELETE permissions
[03:54] <bastidrazor> Crankygeek: you're welcome. best of luck.
[03:54] <DasEi> nesbitt: the address of eth0 seems right, connection to the router also, so it might be an mac/arp issue with the router then, restart router if it works on another line
[03:54] <ilovefairuz> nesbitt:  traceroute is installed by default
[03:54] <pranay_09> how do i change the default java install in  ubuntu 10.04?
[03:54] <Jordan_U> forge_: sudo apt-get install mbr; sudo install-mbr /dev/sda
[03:54] <nesbitt> ilovefairuz: The program 'troceroute' can be found in the following packages: * traceroute * traceroute-nanog etc...
[03:55] <foureight84> is there away to add a search bar to the ubuntu netbook menu? so that you can type in an app name and it appears on the right handside?
[03:55] <forge_> Jordan_U, ok not /dev/sda2
[03:55] <nesbitt> DasEi: i have restarted the router, but problem is still there :(
[03:55] <foureight84> and sort of mod of this menu?
[03:55] <forge_> Jordan_U, that was the xp partition
[03:55] <nesbitt> DasEi: trying again now, stand by
[03:55] <DasEi> nesbitt: and another pc on the same is working ?
[03:55] <nesbitt> DasEi, yep, on my laptop with same router now
[03:55] <Jordan_U> forge_: Definitely not /dev/sda2. Installing anything from ms-sys or install-mbr to the windows partition will break things.
[03:55] <pranay_09> i am unable to run any applet  in firefox-3.6.3, and i java -version returns java version "1.6.0_18" OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.8) (6b18-1.8-0ubuntu1)OpenJDK Client VM (build 14.0-b16, mixed mode, sharing) , i need to change default to sun java
[03:56] <johnzorn> I had an error two upgrades ago and I'm still getting a msg about it every time I use synaptic, how do I get rid of or reset the flag thats causing this to pop up?
[03:56] <skumara> sacarlson, i think using the superkey is cool because u cant get that in mswin. the guys in my office who still using mswin got shocked to see the things i do in my laptop and ubuntu. hahaha... it was fun teasing them
[03:56] <nesbitt> DasEi: actually i won't restart the router unless you think it's worth trying it again (save disconnecting from irc)
[03:56] <extraclassic> foureight84: i use gnome-do for searching and it's not bad....isn't exactly what you describe though
[03:56] <forge_> Jordan_U, ah man I did that before I came to ask on irc
[03:56] <ZykoticK9> pranay_09, add the partner repository then install sun's version then...
[03:56] <forge_> Jordan_U, well let me try the correct way
[03:57] <DasEi> nesbitt: if you tried already, next would be firewall / hosts.deny (external isp router ??)
[03:57] <ilovefairuz> nesbitt: mtr 8.8.8.8
[03:57] <ndxtg> is "^/192\./" a correct regular expression for 192.* ?
[03:57] <nesbitt> DasEi, sorry, i don't really understand what you mean. my other computers are accessing the internet fine, and this one was until today. what should i try in regards to that?
[03:57] <Jordan_U> forge_: You may need to follow this guide as well then: http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/bootinfoscript/index.php?title=Boot_Problems:Boot_Sector
[03:58] <Crankygeek> bastidrazor: I hate to be a PITA, but I can see everything now, but when I load up the website, I now get a "Forbidden
[03:58] <Crankygeek> You don't have permission to access /index.htm on this server."
[03:58] <nesbitt> ilovefairuz: um, something's happening, i have a list of 14hosts
[03:58] <DasEi> nesbitt: pastebinit /etc/hosts.deny  , is there a firewall installed ?
[03:59] <DasEi> nesbitt: pastebinit /etc/resolv.conf
[03:59] <forge_> Jordan_U, should I get anything after the command or do i need to turn on a verbose option
[03:59] <foureight84> extraclassic: yea, i'm using gnome-do also
[03:59] <Jordan_U> forge_: If there is no output then it completed without error.
[03:59] <foureight84> extraclassic: that's cool too
[03:59] <ListedasWanted> hi i have a creative Supreme FX X-Fi sound card and would like to know if i can get drivers for linux distro? I tried their website but the card isnt listed there anymore
[03:59] <extraclassic> foureight84: there'
[04:00] <extraclassic> foureight84: there's a way to index all your stuff and search with beagle
[04:00] <ilovefairuz> nesbitt: dig google.com
[04:00] <forge_> Jordan_U, so that is good ok
[04:00] <foureight84> extraclassic: can you add beagle to the ubuntu netbook menu though?
[04:00] <pranay_09> ZykoticK9, how to add the partner repository and what is it?
[04:00] <nesbitt> http://paste.ubuntu.com/485245/
[04:00] <forge_> Jordan_U, let me see what happens when I reboot I am on another laptop for irc
[04:01] <ZykoticK9> !partner | pranay_09
[04:01] <nesbitt> DasEi: http://paste.ubuntu.com/485245/
[04:01] <ZykoticK9> pranay_09, it includes Sun's java for one (and some other stuff)
[04:01] <extraclassic> foureight84: when i saw it the search bar just popped up when you hit ctrl + space, so it wasn't always there
[04:01] <nesbitt> DasEi: cat /etc/resolve.conf: "Generated by NetworkManager" and that's it
[04:01] <owen1_> DasEi: i created /etc/init.d/local and linked it with init. now i can add inside anything i want, right?
[04:01] <bastidrazor> Crankygeek: what are the permissions of /var/www
[04:01] <ZykoticK9> pranay_09, for alternative GUI steps see the Blue note at http://sites.google.com/site/alucidfs/how-i-do/java
[04:02] <foureight84> interesting, thanks extraclassic i'll look into this
[04:02] <Dr0nE> DasEi: I managed to find a resolution... Ultimately I needed to get the latest driver 256.44. Just thought I would update you if you see this sort of thing again.
[04:02] <extraclassic> foureight84: you can have a search applet in awn that you can click on
[04:02] <bastidrazor> Crankygeek: in terminal type : ls -hal /var/www
[04:02] <forge_> Jordan_U, well that what different now I got to lines when I boot mbr, mbr 123FA
[04:02] <nesbitt> ilovefairuz: timed out: http://paste.ubuntu.com/485246/
[04:02] <ilovefairuz> nesbitt: dig google.com @8.8.8.8
[04:02] <DasEi> Dr0nE: nice to hear that, wouldN#t have thought it works with hardy still
[04:03] <pranay_09> ZykoticK9, thank you
[04:03] <Jordan_U> forge_: Try following http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/bootinfoscript/index.php?title=Boot_Problems:Boot_Sector
[04:03] <forge_> Jordan_U, yeah I am going to
[04:03] <ZykoticK9> pranay_09, glad to help :)
[04:03] <Dr0nE> DasEi: I wasn't sure but thru a little digging suggested it since it supported this card. Good luck with everyone else's problems! :D
[04:03] <forge_> Jordan_U, thanks for all the help you and the other people that have helped me so far
[04:03] <KE1HA> owen1_:  for the most part, yes you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RcLocalHowto
[04:03] <nesbitt> ilovefairuz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/485247/
[04:04] <Jordan_U> forge_: You're welcome.
[04:04] <ilovefairuz> nesbitt: your default dns server that the router communicates to is busted
[04:04] <nesbitt> ilovefairuz: is that something my router does? or my computer? or isp?
[04:04] <nesbitt> ilovefairuz: excuse my ignorance :P
[04:05] <ilovefairuz> nesbitt: most likely your isp, because the router delegates requests to it, anyhow, is it a desktop machine with graphical interface?
[04:05] <forge_> Jordan_U, I will get back to you on how testdisk worked in a bit it takes a bit for the laptop to boot up the live cd
[04:05] <kisuke> anyone know how to set VLC at the default media player?
[04:06] <nesbitt> ilovefairuz: yes it is, but the machine i'm using now is on the same router, if it's an isp problem, shouldn't it affect everything in the house?
[04:06] <ilovefairuz> nesbitt: cat /etc/resolv.conf  .. on both machines
[04:06] <DasEi> nesbitt: nameserver 192.168.1.1       << put this in /etc/resolv.conf, this is no server nedding a domain ?
[04:07] <ZykoticK9> kisuke, open Nautilus, Edit menu, Preferences - Media tab - for some stuff...
[04:07] <sacarlson> I tried to install my nvidia drivers with System>administration>hardware drivers  and I get installArchives() failed    is that just the website not giving me the file?
[04:07] <ilovefairuz> DasEi: nesbitt: wait until we see the pastebins, and it will probably get overwritten by network manager
[04:07] <ZykoticK9> kisuke, Open With for any files not covered by above
[04:08] <DasEi> ilovefairuz: /etc/interfaces will overide nm-manager
[04:08] <ZykoticK9> sacarlson, i'd try a "sudo apt-get update" then try again?
[04:08] <sacarlson> ZykoticK9: ok
[04:08] <nesbitt> ilovefairuz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/485251/
[04:10] <twig_> im trying to connect my lg phone using bitpim in lucid, it seems i need to create /dev/ttyACM0 and link it to usb::001::019::1, im not having ne luck on the forums, i think because i dont know the proper phrasing for the search, does ne one have a suggestion?
[04:10] <ZykoticK9> nesbitt, it appears you "broken" machine doesn't have any DNS servers for some reason
[04:10] <ZykoticK9> s/you/your
[04:10] <ilovefairuz> nesbitt: echo "nameserver 192.168.1.1" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf
[04:11] <nesbitt> ZykoticK9: i did change my /etc/network/interfaces file to get a static ip, but that was a while ago and it's worked fine for ages
[04:11] <kisuke> ZykoticK9, thanks
[04:11] <ZykoticK9> nesbitt, follow ilovefairuz's suggestion above
[04:11] <ZykoticK9> kisuke, glad to help
[04:12] <ilovefairuz> nesbitt: did you configure a static ip in /etc/network/interfaces by hand? you forgot the DNS server
[04:12] <DasEi> nesbitt: :)
[04:13] <nesbitt> ilovefairuz: it works! excellent! thank you!
[04:13] <nesbitt> ilovefairuz: i did do it by hand (is this unwise?) but it was a long time ago, is it possible for it to work for a while without that being put in then suddenly stop?
[04:14] <ilovefairuz> nesbitt: not unwise, just incomplete
[04:14] <sacarlson> same problem after apt-get update System>administration>hardware drivers  and I get installArchives() failed  for my [GeForce 6100 nForce 405] (rev a2)
[04:15] <DasEi> fur usual the gateway shall fill it, not so in a vpn
[04:15] <ilovefairuz> nesbitt: it was probably left working from the last network-manager but somehow it got erased
[04:15] <sacarlson> I'm going to try direct from nvidia
[04:15] <nesbitt> ilovefairuz: ok
[04:15] <extraclassic> does anyone know how long avidemux should take to load files....when I try loading a 30mb video it goes gray and I waited 5 minutes
[04:16] <SusanCalvin> hi!
[04:16] <nesbitt> ilovefairuz, DasEi, greezmunkey, ZykoticK9: thanks so much for your help!
[04:16] <DasEi> nesbitt: we never help each other out, hehe, nvm
[04:17] <cxmatias> hey, i have this problem: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/485253/
[04:18] <ZykoticK9> !mint | cxmatias
[04:18]  * blet Gets ZykoticK9 mint | cxmatias <%)
[04:19] <hellboy316> #help
[04:19] <hellboy316> hi all
[04:20] <DasEi> cxmatias: pm you ?
[04:20] <sacarlson> I just got my new nvidia driver from them NVIDIA-Linux-x86-256.44-pkg1.run  so as they stated I'm going to try as root, sh  ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-256.44-pkg1.run .  last chance to stop me.
[04:21] <DasEi> sacarlson: kernel sources /build-essential in ?
[04:21] <ZykoticK9> sacarlson, it's "up to you" but understand that you are venturing into "non-supported" land
[04:21] <hiku> sacarlson: do you have your kernel source/headers?
[04:21] <bastidrazor> sacarlson: you need to have X stopped before doing that.
[04:21] <hellboy316> Does any body else have a problem with ubuntu 10.4 installation .. installer fails when usb mouse is attached
[04:21] <tadeo> mexico
[04:21] <tadeo> is very good
[04:21] <bastidrazor> tadeo: and New Mexico?
[04:22] <tadeo> mmmm...
[04:22] <tadeo> great
[04:22] <tadeo> :D
[04:22] <ilovefairuz> !ot | tadeo, bastidrazor
[04:22] <tadeo> you inglish?
[04:22] <sacarlson> DasEi: yup got that,  hiku if that build-essential added them then yes.   bastudrazor  wow glad you told me that.  I'll exit xserver then.
[04:22] <lynx7os5> how do you customize your keyboard buttons? say like (turn the "H" button into the "return" or "escape" button), is this possible?
[04:23] <tadeo> i am mexican
[04:23] <DasEi> !headers | sacarlson
[04:23] <tadeo> Help me
[04:23] <tadeo> ubuntu .......
[04:23] <ZykoticK9> tadeo, are you looking for Spanish support?
[04:23] <hellboy316> hey ubottu .. are you a bot
[04:23] <DasEi> tadeo: ubuntu-support question ?
[04:24] <ZykoticK9> hellboy316, yes
[04:24] <tadeo> no :(
[04:24] <KE1HA> lynx7os5:  try System >> Preferences >> Keyboard, the use the Layout TAB.
[04:24] <ZykoticK9> !bot | hellboy316
[04:24] <KE1HA> then*
[04:24] <tadeo> PC ubuntu LOW
[04:24] <ilovefairuz> tadeo: what's your question ?
[04:24] <DasEi> tadeo: no general chatter here, see above
[04:24] <tadeo> mmm..
[04:24] <hellboy316> okies
[04:24] <tadeo> is my pc
[04:24] <tadeo> Xubuntu linx low
[04:24] <Ardin> ok, i'm still googing and stuff, but does anyone have any idea why none of the touchpad config programs can see my touchpad to configure it? is theres some small line of voodoo i'm not doing?
[04:25] <ZykoticK9> tadeo, ask your question all on one line (stop using Enter key so much)
[04:25] <tadeo> mmm..memoria Ram is the 159 :S
[04:25] <lynx7os5> KE1HA: ok i'll check, thanks
[04:25] <tadeo> no speak spanish???
[04:25] <DasEi> Ardin: synaptics already tried I assume ?
[04:25] <ilovefairuz> tadeo: do you mean low on resources (memory/ram)? yes, but try Lubuntu if you want something with lower requirements
[04:25] <KE1HA> lynx7os5:  Lots of things you can do there.
[04:25] <ZykoticK9> !es | tadeo
[04:25] <DasEi> !es | tadeo
[04:25] <kisuke>  Ardin: what brand is your touchpad?
[04:25] <tadeo> Thanks
[04:26] <tadeo> ok
[04:26] <tadeo> sabes español
[04:26] <Ardin> DasEi: is that an app? kisuke seems to be a synaptic but i'm doubting that. got a way to find out? lspci?
[04:26] <hopkins> alguien de mexico
[04:26] <sacarlson> DasEi: I just did you header load and got some strange stuf back Building initial module for 2.6.33-29-realtime-pae
[04:26] <sacarlson> Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 2.6.33-29-realtime-pae (i686),  but I'm not even running that kernel now, does it just bring all of what I have installed in?
[04:26] <hopkins> ????
[04:26] <ilovefairuz> hopkins: tadeo: escribe: /join #ubuntu-es
[04:26] <DasEi> sacarlson: that's fine, just initramfs
[04:27] <DasEi> sacarlson: the later, errm
[04:27] <kisuke> Ardin, lspci will show it i beleve, have you checked for any restricted drivers? and are there any events from ps0-mouse (or something like that  in dmesg?
[04:27] <DasEi> sacarlson: running 32 bit ?
[04:27] <hopkins> mexixo
[04:27] <sacarlson> DasEi: I'm still in xserver when I instaled that.  initramfs?   like sudo initramfs ?  what's that going to do.  yes I run 32 bit
[04:28] <DasEi> sacarlson: if you install addtional modules, your intramfs gets updated which is fine, errors are not. how much sstem ram ?
[04:28] <DasEi> y*
[04:29] <lynx7os5> KE1HA: i was originally thinking more like a config fiile or something but yep, i think this will do just fine.. thanks for the quick reply, very accurate too :)
[04:29] <kisuke> ardin, any luck?
[04:29] <sacarlson> DasEi: I have 2gig ram
[04:29] <Ardin> oh wtf. nothing in lshw, nothing in lspci,  and this in dmesg [   14.458773] input: ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse as /devices/platform/i8042/serio1/input/input9
[04:29] <DasEi> sacarlson: and the g-card has ?
[04:30] <kisuke> Ardin, so your mouse doesnot work at all?
[04:30] <sacarlson> DasEi: I'm not sure, is that in the lspic some where?
[04:30] <DasEi> sacarlson: sudo hwinfo will tell
[04:30] <sacarlson> DasEi: I was running 64bit and I don't notice any change in performance
[04:30] <Ardin> kisuke: no it works, right and left click works fine. but the side scrolling area can be used once before it stops working.
[04:31] <forge_> Jordan_U, the irony of this all is that testdisk had a thing that rewrites a windows mbr and it is really easy to use and I could not have made that mistake
[04:31] <DasEi> sacarlson: 32 default is limited to 4 gb ram, including both, ram n g-card
[04:31] <Ardin> and i'm just trying to turn on the 2 finger scrolling (gestures work in win7)
[04:31] <kisuke> Ardin, there are no restricted drivers?
[04:31] <sacarlson> DasEi: sudo: hwinfo: command not found
[04:31] <DasEi> sacarlson: sudo apt-get install hwinfo
[04:31] <kisuke> Ardin, also try synaptics webpage
[04:31] <Ardin> kisuke: there were drivers for my wireless and my ati card that were installed, but no other drivers
[04:32] <kisuke> Ardin, from restricted right?
[04:32] <Ardin> kisuke: si sinor.
[04:32] <Ardin> i'm letting it check again while i keep searching for things
[04:33] <Ardin> nope, nothing.
[04:33] <kisuke> Ardin, any thing from the synaptic webpage?
[04:33] <Ardin> kisuke: cant work that fast. gimmie a sec, i'm checking my manufacturers website to make sure its a synaptic
[04:33] <DasEi> Ardin: sudo apt-get install gnome-device-manager hwinfo,   for finer grained info
[04:34] <johnzorn> I cant get firefox to open anymore, it tells me theres one already running and I've tried deleting the .parentlock file
[04:34] <johnzorn> what other locks does firefox use?
[04:35] <DasEi> johnzorn: lsof could tell you, but to get out : sudo killall firefox-bin
[04:35] <Ardin> kisuke: seems like it says on acers site that its an "ALPS" touchpad. i've never heard of that
[04:35] <Ardin> oh, nevermind
[04:35] <Ardin> it has both
[04:35] <johnzorn> DasEi, I´ve rebooted due to an upgrade so its not running
[04:36] <DasEi> johnzorn: lookup top or htop for it
[04:36] <DasEi> johnzorn: and it can, if it was open at rbeoot
[04:37] <sacarlson> DasEi: well I install that hwinfo but the output was so long couldnt find nvidia in it.
[04:37] <DasEi> Ardin: try tpconfig
[04:37] <extraclassic> does anyone know where to go to edit the applications that appear when you select Open With... after right-clicking a link
[04:38] <DasEi> sacarlson: pipe it to a file : sudo hwinfo > hwinfo.txt
[04:38] <viback> me chung may
[04:38] <viback> dien a
[04:38] <viback> anh nhau ko
[04:38] <DasEi> sacarlson: then sweearch by grep or editor
[04:38] <viback> yeu anh ko cac em
[04:38] <kisuke> Ardin, so was tehre any linux drivers there or not?
[04:38] <johnzorn> DasEi, there just isnt a firefox process running
[04:38] <viback> con me chung may
[04:39] <ZykoticK9> extraclassic, in nautilus right click the file, properties, open with tab
[04:39] <DasEi> extraclassic: right-click, properties
[04:39] <brandon420> anyone know of a program so i can run a shoutcast from my computer?
[04:39] <Ardin> kisuke: on acers site? theres 2 drivers for windows7, both alps and synaptic. arg.
[04:40] <ubuntu> can anyone tell me how to turn off the low battery notification in lubuntu
[04:40] <DasEi> brandon420: send or receive ?
[04:40] <sacarlson> DasEi: well even with that I still don't know what I'm looking for in here
[04:40] <kisuke> brandon, i beleve winamp has a linux version, and VLC might be able to, (not sure as i have never need to)
[04:40] <brandon420> DasEi,  send
[04:40] <GaToR__> After installing ubuntu and running sudo install-mbr /dev/sda, I got the status error 0xc000000e at windows boot screen..Any ideas?
[04:41] <hellboy316> "telnet towel.blinkenlights.nl "  ... check this out ... i m not a big starwars fan but this is cool
[04:41] <GaToR__> (I dualbooted with windows 7_
[04:41] <kisuke> GaToR__, which version of windows?
[04:41] <GaToR__> 7
[04:41] <ilovefairuz> GaToR__: using wubi ?
[04:41] <brandon420> ubuntu it will be in the power settings
[04:41] <GaToR__> ilovefairuz: No, not wubi. I burned a live cd.
[04:41] <Sir_Leto> hellboy316,  that's really old
[04:41] <ZykoticK9> !ot > hellboy316
[04:41] <DasEi> brandon420: ezstream and icecast-server are there, both I have no experience on my own from
[04:41] <ilovefairuz> !grub2 | GaToR__
[04:41] <kisuke> !win7 | GaToR__
[04:41] <extraclassic> this is what i'm trying to fix: http://content.screencast.com/users/j_barnett/folders/Default/media/d48c74f8-39bd-4c42-9e5b-5bcfb44bbadb/openwith.png - it happened when I tried installing iTunes in wine
[04:41] <ilovefairuz> GaToR__: reinstall grub
[04:41] <Sir_Leto> !ot
[04:41] <ubuntu> brandon420: do you know which menu that is under, I can't find it?
[04:42] <Sir_Leto> !win7
[04:42] <hellboy316> posted it for newbies like me ...
[04:42] <hanasaki> what is a good program for downloading and managing podcasts?
[04:42] <Ardin> kisuke: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/linux/+bug/550625 <- that explains my problem apparently. its a known bug.
[04:42] <GaToR__> ilovefairuz: Are you sure that would do the trick? Also, how would I do that?
[04:43] <Schnitzel> so, why does ubuntu boot so fast?
[04:43] <GaToR__> I've tried maybe 10 things already, and it just doesn't seem like it could be THAT simple.
[04:43] <ilovefairuz> GaToR__: it's in the link, check the table of connects
[04:43] <kisuke> ardin sorry, if theres a solution there take it, but i gotta go, good luck
[04:43] <ilovefairuz> GaToR__: contents *
[04:43] <GaToR__> ilovefairuz: If you say so
[04:43] <KE1HA> GaToR__:  sudo apt-get install grub-pc /dev/sda  but verify that with the Ubuntu Dual-Boot-Windows How-Too.
[04:43] <sacarlson> DasEi: but to make you happy here is hwinfo.txt http://pastebin.com/WSid2LRF
[04:43] <ZykoticK9> Schnitzel, you might want to ask in #ubuntu-offtopic as that isn't a "support" question
[04:44] <GaToR__> grub-pc is already the newest version.
[04:44] <GaToR__> grub-pc set to manually installed.
[04:44] <GaToR__> E: Couldn't find package
[04:44] <Schnitzel> mkay :)
[04:44] <hellboy316> hey guys i had a question about grub 2 .. can i boot from usb using grub
[04:45] <brandon420> ubuntu , should be in system>pref>power management
[04:45] <shirtless> hellboy316: why do you need grub for that?
[04:45] <ilovefairuz> GaToR__: sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[04:45] <shirtless> hellboy316: can your BIOS not do it?
[04:45] <KE1HA> GaToR__:  try updating grub then: sudo grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[04:45] <hellboy316> it has the option to boot but it doesnt work
[04:46] <hellboy316> i tried using plop boot manager
[04:46] <DasEi> sacarlson: you run a 6100 nvidia onboard ?
[04:46] <hellboy316> it works with that
[04:46] <shirtless> that's odd. did you select the proper boot priority etc
[04:46] <sacarlson> DasEi: yup
[04:46] <GaToR__> I'll be right back to see if what I did worked.
[04:46] <GaToR__> Well, what you told me worked*
[04:47] <DasEi> sacarlson: as the only card ? well, that shares from system ram then, so no probs with 32 bit/pae
[04:47] <hellboy316> after POST ... SMBUS CONTROLLER SHOWS NA ... is that why i cant boot from usb
[04:47] <sacarlson> DasEi: cool
[04:48] <pie_time> where is .conkyrc?
[04:48] <ilovefairuz> pie_time: in home, ~
[04:48] <hiku> pie_time: in /etc/conky or $HOME/.conkyrc
[04:49] <extraclassic> pie_time: i had to create mine in the home directory...copy the one from /etc/conky over
[04:49] <hellboy316> why arent there any games on this channel
[04:49] <Routers> Im downloading ubuntu-10.04.1-dekstop-amd64
[04:49] <shirtless> hellboy316: I don't know about grub2 booting from USB. It's certainly possible to boot from USB from software, but what I might look into is flashing your BIOS.
[04:50] <Routers> is it ok with that ?
[04:50] <DasEi> sacarlson: sudo apt-get --purge remove xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
[04:50] <GaToR__> Hi.
[04:50] <hiku> hellboy316: this is a support channel
[04:50] <shirtless> hellboy316: you'll probably need windows or DOS to flash it.
[04:50] <sacarlson> I'm going to remove this pae kernel that flags me errors,  can I just remove that.  oh ok I'll do that also
[04:50] <hellboy316> yup i tried 3 diffrenet versions
[04:50] <shirtless> Well, that sucks.
[04:50] <GaToR__> GRUB loads fine, and so does Ubuntu. But when I try Windows, I get 0xc000000e and doesn't boot. Does it make a difference that I installed mbr?
[04:50] <shirtless> try different USB ports too?
[04:51] <hellboy316> with plop boot manager i can boot from the same drive
[04:51] <hellboy316> okies i will check with different ports
[04:51] <GaToR__> :3;;
[04:52] <sacarlson> DasEi: can I delete that after I install or do I need to do that before the nvidia install,   oh if I do that will the original nvidia install method work?
[04:52] <shirtless> hellboy316: this looks relevant, and came up from searching 'grub boot from usb' on google: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootFromUSB
[04:52] <ZykoticK9> GaToR__, have you tried asking if anyone knows in ##windows?
[04:52] <DasEi> sacarlson: as you already mentioned, can bork things there, and on the 6100 improvements won't be greatt anyway , BEFORE!
[04:52] <GaToR__> I have not, I assumed this was caused by Ubuntu, as I did the mbr to get the bootloader to work
[04:52] <GaToR__> But I'll try
[04:52] <pranay_09> ZykoticK9, i enabled the repo and downloaded jre-6u21-linux-i586.bin and extracted it , now next what?
[04:53] <nooby-doo> i need help fixing firefox .. it doesnt play flash video anymore .. just shows a black box on youtube and nothing happens ... has anyone faced a similar issue and how did ya fix it ?
[04:53] <sacarlson> DasEi: ya well if I can get the normal way to work that's I would prefer
[04:53] <KE1HA> GaToR__:  sudo apt-get install pastebinit && sudo cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg | pastebinit
[04:53] <pranay_09> *executed it
[04:53] <ZykoticK9> pranay_09, LOL - you don't need to download anything, just enable the repository then "sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin"
[04:53] <DasEi> sacarlson: system > admin...> hardwaredrivers
[04:54] <pranay_09> ok
[04:54] <sacarlson> DasEi: ya that's what I tried with all three posible versions and all failed.  but I'll try that remove above that might make it work
[04:55] <GaToR__> KE1HA: http://pastebin.com/X8dnBQXE is what I get
[04:55] <KE1HA> GaToR__:  we;ll also need: [ sudo df -hT | pastebinit ] and [ sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit \ then give us the links pastebinit spits out each time.
[04:55] <GaToR__> oic
[04:55] <DasEi> sacarlson: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-common
[04:55] <hellboy316> hey thanks shirtless i will check it out
[04:56] <GaToR__> KE1HA: First one: http://pastebin.com/ZzBt80BX
[04:57] <nooby-doo> i need help fixing firefox .. it doesnt play flash video anymore .. just shows a black box on youtube and nothing happens ... has anyone faced a similar issue and how did ya fix it ?
[04:57] <GaToR__> KE1HA: First one: http://pastebin.com/ZzBt80BX Second one: http://pastebin.com/1vKyHUcV
[04:58] <blockhead> How do I find out system preferances in Ubuntu like Windows?
[04:58] <hellboy316> ya i have tried the way mentioned on that page ... doesnt work .. i have to load the plop.bin image first ... only then it is possible to boot usb
[04:58] <blockhead> preferences
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> blockhead:  what system preferance are you refering to?
[04:58] <sacarlson> DasEi: It's not in my list in synaptic what repo I need to activate for that?
[04:58] <blockhead> GHZ, Ram, GB
[04:59] <blockhead> Dr_Willis,  Ghz, Ram and GB
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> !info hardinfo
[04:59] <ZykoticK9> blockhead, cat /proc/cpuinfo will give some details
[04:59]  * blet Gets Dr_Willis info hardinfo <%)
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> blockhead:  theres numerous cli and gui tools for that info
[04:59] <blockhead> No idea, I'm switching to Windows if I have enough Ram
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> blockhead:  hardinfo is one, theres cat /proc/cpuinfo and other /proc things also
[04:59] <blockhead> switching back
[04:59] <forge_> blockhead, gnome system monitor is one
[04:59] <KE1HA> GaToR__:  Ok, tnx, where did you do this install-mbr too ?
[04:59] <blockhead> how would I get there? lol
[04:59] <GaToR__> KE1HA: /dev/sda
[05:00] <forge_> blockhead, so is byobu
[05:00] <blockhead> I'm very noob to ubuntu
[05:00] <forge_> blockhead, let me look
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> blockhead:  the 'free' command shows memory avail/used also
[05:00] <bastidrazor> blet is a bot
[05:00] <woodyjlw> I how do I run gpsd ? cant find it in menu after install
[05:00] <blockhead> free
[05:00] <forge_> blockhead, the terminal is one way
[05:00] <blockhead> !free
[05:00] <forge_> blockhead, just type it in
[05:00] <sacarlson> DasEi: I have ubuntu-restricted-extras installed but even if I just search for restricted I see nothing like common in it
[05:00] <DasEi> sacarlson: yes, right, not in the standrad repo, try an apt-cache search linux-restricted-modules
[05:00] <blockhead> type what in?
[05:00] <blockhead> lol
[05:00] <ActionParsnip> blockhead: free -m   shows the ram in (m)egabytes (more readable)
[05:01] <maco> blockhead: open a terminal, and type "free -m" into it, then hit enter
[05:01] <hellboy316> #exit
[05:01] <KE1HA> GaToR__:  Ok, I think you need to recover your Windows MBR first, then re-install Grub2 and grub-mkconfig again, as your configs look correct for dual booting.
[05:01] <blockhead> ok
[05:01] <blockhead> I see it
[05:01] <blockhead> what about Ghz and Ram
[05:01] <blockhead> that's on the system
[05:01] <forge_> blockhead, I always get to it though docky or alt+F2
[05:01] <sacarlson> DasEi: nothing returned from your search
[05:01] <GaToR__> KE1HA: Is there a way to do that that you know of, or should I ask ##Windows or something?
[05:01] <blockhead> Oh i need to be more specific
[05:02] <blockhead> I'm looking for ram that's on the computer that's being used up and what's naturally on the computer
[05:02] <forge_> blockhead, alt+f2 then type in  gnome-system-monitor
[05:02] <colk> GaToR__,  XP or Vista/7?
[05:02] <woodyjlw> anyone know how to run gpsd after installing?  ubuntu 10.04  and cant find it in menu after installing
[05:02] <forge_> blockhead, the far right tab has the information
[05:02] <blockhead> ah
[05:02] <blockhead> thank you Forairan
[05:02] <GaToR__> colk: 7
[05:02] <blockhead> forge_,
[05:02] <baba> how do I get a server running?
[05:02] <blockhead> thank you
[05:02] <FloodBot3> blockhead: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:03] <blockhead> ok
[05:03] <KE1HA> GaToR__:  With thse Rescue utility partitions it can be tricky, but If you have a Rescue CD, try that first.
[05:03] <forge_> blockhead, yeah
[05:03] <colk> GaToR__, if you do start up recovery after booting from the 7 CD it should help
[05:03] <seidos> baba, download ubuntu server and install it on a computer
[05:03] <baba> is there something in the suppository?
[05:03] <blockhead> Thanks forge_  Is 2.9GB enough to run Windows 7 correctly?
[05:03] <sacarlson> DasEi: I got it to install the normal way.   I had to fully remove that pae kernel that flaged errors.  seems it tries to install the driver in all kernels you have even if not running.
[05:03] <blockhead> of ram
[05:03] <melfy> need some help installing guest addons in virtualbox on ubuntu10 server, it's not showing cdrom anywhere :/
[05:03] <seidos> baba, what kind of server do you want to run?
[05:03] <GaToR__> KE1HA: I have no CDs so..
[05:04] <KE1HA> GaToR__:  Do you have a CD-Rom attached to the box ?
[05:04] <GaToR__> Hm?
[05:04] <Sengkuang> who can help me, why to use TP-link  WN322g in lucyd Bus 002 Device 005: ID 0cf3:1006 Atheros Communications, Inc.
[05:04] <forge_> blockhead, 32 bit can only use 4 G so yes if it is 64 bit you can use more than 4 G so it is nice to have it but you should be able to fine
[05:04] <sacarlson> so now for what I went through all this trouble for the magnifiers,  oh I still need to activate compiz
[05:04] <DasEi> sacarlson: sudo ldconfig
[05:04] <forge_> blockhead, *32 bit can only use less than 4 G
[05:05] <DasEi> sacarlson: sudo nvidia-xconfig
[05:05] <ZykoticK9> forge_, 3.2 actually - see !pae
[05:05] <blockhead> ah, thanks forge_
[05:05] <baba> seidos whatever covers the most categories of hosting needs
[05:05] <xangua> !pae | blockhead forge_
[05:05] <forge_> ZykoticK9, 3.2 is that just windows or any 32 bit system
[05:05] <DasEi> sacarlson: close apps, pray, sudo reboot
[05:05] <KE1HA> GaToR__:  Some of these netbooks and such, don't have CD-Rom drives, so was makign sure the machine has a CD-Rom drive first.
[05:06] <GaToR__> KE1HA: Ah, yes, I have a CD ROM Drive
[05:06] <ZykoticK9> forge_, any 32bit system i believe
[05:06] <blockhead> forge_, 1 quick question, though before I go, "Does WINE work? There shouldn't be any problems using it on ubuntu correct?"
[05:06] <sacarlson> DasEi: I got error in sudo nvidia-xconfig VALIDATION ERROR: Data incomplete in file /etc/X11/xorg.conf.
[05:06] <sacarlson>                   Undefined Device "(null)" referenced by Screen "Default
[05:06] <sacarlson>                   Screen".
[05:06] <sacarlson> opps
[05:06] <FloodBot3> sacarlson: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:06] <KE1HA> Ok, hold let me go Find a Win7 rescue CD DL somewhere.
[05:06] <nooby-doo> ActionParsnip: would you know a fix for flash on firefox?
[05:06] <forge_> ubottu, oh yeah for sever
[05:06] <baba> seidos?
[05:06] <forge_> ubottu, *oh yeah for severs
[05:06] <colk> I have seen as little as 2.9 GB for a 32bit OS
[05:06] <ActionParsnip> nooby-doo: whats the issue?
[05:06] <DasEi> sacarlson: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg && nvidia-xconfig
[05:06] <colk> it also depends on the video card memory
[05:06] <ZykoticK9> sacarlson, i'd move your current xorg.conf to a safe location then run "sudo nvidia-xconfig" to generate a new xorg.conf
[05:07] <DasEi> sacarlson: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg && sudo nvidia-xconfig    *
[05:07] <seidos> baba, if you mean web hosting, you can install apache from the repositories
[05:07] <baba> seidos what about an icrd?
[05:07] <baba> ircd
[05:07] <nooby-doo> ActionParsnip: it wont play flash, just shows a black box and no controls and no video, about:plugings shows i have flash installed .
[05:07] <seidos> baba, not sure, someone else might know about ircd
[05:07] <sacarlson> ZykoticK9: I thought that xorg.conf was empty  but I"ll check and be sure to copy it anyway
[05:08] <forge_> blockhead, yeah wine works fine in ubuntu though if it works with a specific windows program i have no clue check winehq
[05:08] <ZykoticK9> sacarlson, proprietary nvidia requires an xorg.conf...
[05:08] <blockhead> what do you mean as an example of "Specific windows program" forge_
[05:08] <ActionParsnip> nooby-doo: can you use http://pastie.org    to give the output of: lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | grep flash; dpkg -l | grep gnash; dpkg -l | grep swf     thanks
[05:08] <GaToR__> I'll try to fix in the morning
[05:08] <GaToR__> Good night all
[05:08] <forge_> blockhead, like if neverwinter night 2 runs or not I have no clue
[05:09] <nooby-doo> ActionParsnip: sure, gimme a moment please
[05:09] <blockhead> ah
[05:09] <KE1HA> Bunner, just got the Win7 file he needed ...
[05:09] <blockhead> well, thanks forge_ and everoyne for their help
[05:09] <blockhead> been a great help.
[05:09] <forge_> blockhead, no problem
[05:09] <sacarlson> ZykoticK9: I backed it up and it looks good I see the nvida driver in it now.  I'm going to reboot and see what happens
[05:10] <sacarlson> if it don't work I'll try DasEi suggestion
[05:10] <Rob235> hey
[05:10] <Rob235> if i delete all but my latest snapshot of virtualbox then my snapshots folder will be tiny cause theres no changes from the current state of the virtual machine correct?
[05:11] <ActionParsnip> Rob235: i'd ask in virtualbox
[05:11] <ZykoticK9> Rob235, you might want to reask in #vbox to be sure
[05:11] <Rob235> thanks
[05:11] <ActionParsnip> #vbox sorry
[05:11] <sacarlson> I'm out for a bit,  any last things to tell me before reboot?
[05:11] <ZykoticK9> sacarlson, good luck ;)
[05:12] <sacarlson> ZykoticK9: thanks,  over
[05:12] <Dr_Willis> !find dos2unix
[05:13] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. What is the command now to convert a annoying windoes text file that has the wrong line endings to linux nice formating.
[05:13] <ActionParsnip> nooby-doo: it's just one command, run it then copy all the output in one
[05:13] <ZykoticK9> !info | tofrodos
[05:13] <ZykoticK9> !info tofrodos
[05:14] <Sengkuang> how to use Bus 002 Device 005: ID 0cf3:1006
[05:14] <nooby-doo> ActionParsnip: http://pastie.org/1123528
[05:14] <Maletor> Can someobdy tell me how to do this for real? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Raid Every time I follow the 'super simple md' recipe I cannot reboot sucessfully. What do I do for real?
[05:15] <ActionParsnip> nooby-doo: ok well you have too many flash plugins so they conflict and you get nothing. I'll give you one big command to clear you up
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> thanks ZykoticK9  - 'tofrodos' sounds like somthing i would order at tocco bell :)
[05:16] <nooby-doo> ActionParsnip: that would be awesome
[05:16] <ActionParsnip> nooby-doo: can you also use pastie to give the output of: lsb_release -a    thanks
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> This silly script i grabbed from a pastebin site had weird line endings. :)
[05:17] <DasEi> maletor: I'm tired now, but mdadm is simple, don't use a tut for breezy !! assemble it is for lucid :-D
[05:17] <DasEi> !mdadm
[05:18] <DasEi> !raid
[05:18] <Maletor> DasEi: it is simple but it goes wrong a lot of the time
[05:18] <Maletor> DasEi: I have a RAID array, all I want to do is have fstab mount it.
[05:19] <nooby-doo> ActionParsnip: http://pastie.org/1123541
[05:19] <ActionParsnip> nooby-doo: http://pastie.org/1123536
[05:19] <Maletor> DasEi: which should be simple too, but it's not. When I reboot and try to mount /dev/md0 it says it doesn't exist, so I try to do mdadm --assemble --scan which fails
[05:19] <ActionParsnip> nooby-doo: sweet, ok copy that whole command, paste it into a terminal and let it rip. After, you will ONLY have adobe's flash and it will work
[05:20] <Maletor> So how do I tell disk utility to mount /media/Home to /home is what I'm trying to say in Ubuntu language.
[05:20] <Maletor> Preferebly the Lucid dialect.
[05:21] <DasEi> Maletor: whole story, you want an install or a raid under a running system ?
[05:21] <Maletor> I have root in a separate drive and I want 4 drives to run my /home
[05:21] <ActionParsnip> Maletor: you could symlink /home to /media/home   (not sure about lost+found  etc though
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> Maletor:  you would normally define such a mount in /etc/fstab   a link may work also Like ActionParsnip  said.
[05:22] <Some_Person> Is there any way to install without burning/booting to the CD/ISO?
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> !install | Some_Person
[05:22] <Maletor> ActionParsnip: neither am i, but why would symlink be appropiate here? why not just set it up correctly in the first place?
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> Some_Person:  yes.
[05:22] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: bit hacky but would work
[05:22] <baba> ok, i have no idea what i'm doing, can someone pelase help me?
[05:22] <ActionParsnip> Maletor: yeah i'd shoot for fstab too
[05:22] <ActionParsnip> !details | baba
[05:22] <Dr_Willis> Ive used the /home/USERNAME --> /media/SpareHome/username  link trick to get specific users their own HD's :)
[05:23] <Maletor> ActionParsnip: I did have that fstab line from the breezy tut (except it was ext4)
[05:23] <Some_Person> Dr_Willis: Ok, no floppy, no CDs I can burn to, no USB drive, and I don't want to do a spare partition. Any other options?
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> Some_Person:  read the url and see what applies to use.
[05:24] <baba> ActionParsnip, I would like to know if I successfully downloaded Apache and Dancer-IRCD from the repository
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> Some_Person:  clarify what you mean  by 'do a spare parittiion'
[05:25] <Dr_Willis> baba:  you did a 'sudo apt-get install apache2' or how did you install apache exactly?
[05:25] <Some_Person> Dr_Willis: I don't want to create a new partition on my HD just to install
[05:25] <ratdog> where can i report bugs?
[05:25] <Maletor> Can I be assured the RAID arary will start on boot and if I symlink /home to /media/home it will not be null?
[05:25] <Dr_Willis> !bugs | ratdog
[05:25] <ZykoticK9> ratdog, what program/package has the bug?
[05:25] <ActionParsnip> baba: apache is certainly on the repo
[05:26] <ActionParsnip> baba: looks like dancer is too: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Dancer-IRCD
[05:26] <Hover> which app can i use for autocad in ubuntu?
[05:26] <DasEi> Maletor: I'm really tired for raid 5 , better links : http://tinyurl.com/5rjdwz http://tinyurl.com/3yzgtd6
[05:26] <Hover> mm3d?
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> Hover:  theres several cad apps avail for linux. I doubt if any of them are as 'big' as autocad. but it depends on your needs
[05:26] <sadiqpk> best to your qcad
[05:26] <Dr_Willis> !info qcad
[05:26] <ActionParsnip> baba: have you seen that article i posted?
[05:26] <ratdog> ZykoticK9 i dont know what is it, just some erro that pops up i want to report
[05:26] <Some_Person> Dr_Willis: So is there any other way to install?
[05:26] <KE1HA> ratdog:  in a terminal, type: ubuntu-bug
[05:27] <ActionParsnip> !cad
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> Some_Person:  theres always the old netboot install, or the debootstrap trick
[05:27] <ratdog> doesnt really affect my machine
[05:27] <Nikie> Hello guys !!! Can anyone walk me through the process to enable network. I'm using Linux Ubuntu 10.0.
[05:27] <ZykoticK9> ratdog, ubuntu bugs require you to specify what package is producing the error - what is the error message?
[05:27] <ActionParsnip> Nikie: what sort, wired or wireless?
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> Nikie:  i just plug in my cable.. and done..
[05:27] <Hover> qcad.. so is it similar to autocad of Microsoft? because they teach autocad in the college.. :(
[05:27] <Nikie> yeh
[05:28] <Nikie> that was a prompt response
[05:28] <ActionParsnip> Nikie: WHICH?
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> Hover:  qcad is qcad.. its not by microsoft.. autocad is not by MS either. (last i checked)
[05:28] <KE1HA> ratdog:  and if you know the <packagename>: ubuntu-bug <package-name>
[05:28] <Nikie> yea it's wireless
[05:28] <Dr_Willis> Hover:  it is differnt then autocad. but similer.
[05:28] <cast> autocad isn't from microsoft
[05:28] <sadiqpk> never, qcad has very less option relative to auto....
[05:28] <ratdog> Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "pk-gtk-module": libpk-gtk-module.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:28] <ratdog> i dont have window borders, lol
[05:28] <nooby-doo> ActionParsnip: worked like a charm bro, thanks a ton
[05:28] <ActionParsnip> Nikie: ok then run:  sudo lshw -C network       one line will tell you your wireless chip. What does it say?
[05:28] <Hover> hmm sorry not autocad.. they teach from SolidH
[05:28] <ActionParsnip> nooby-doo: flash is easy dude, just keep to ONE plugin and you will be problem free
[05:29] <braddean> how do I get the email notifier back on systray
[05:29] <Nikie> hold on i'll tell you
[05:29] <ActionParsnip> Hover: seem really hit and miss in wine: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=86
[05:29] <ZykoticK9> ratdog, "metacity --replace" will probably give you windows boarders back.  What graphics card are you using.
[05:30] <sadiqpk> It's so hard to read the posts here, I'm using a mobile phone
[05:30] <Hover> ActionParsnip, ok.. tks. I will check.
[05:30] <Nikie> It's prompting me to enter the password
[05:30] <ratdog> ATi 3600+ series hs ZykoticK9
[05:30] <Some_Person> Dr_Willis: Yeah, I tried netboot a while back to install something, and I never had much luck with it. Never tried debootstrap, but it looks fairly complicated, and not something I really want to undertake just for this
[05:30] <ratdog> hd
[05:30] <ZykoticK9> ratdog, ummm, sorry i can't help with ATI - good luck.
[05:30] <Nikie> ntwork DISABLED
[05:30] <ActionParsnip> Nikie: use your logon password, it wont give visual feedback, just type your pass and hit enter
[05:30] <Hover> And anyone has idea of how to use data-sim or normal sim to use internet in ubuntu? i bought a sim card reader. It has no driver for linux.
[05:30] <ratdog> ZykoticK9 i want to use GTK border engine
[05:31] <Nikie> yeah...hold on
[05:31] <ActionParsnip> Nikie: we need only the product line of the wireless
[05:31] <ZykoticK9> ratdog, sorry i can't help with ATI - good luck.
[05:31] <ActionParsnip> Nikie: does it say Broadcom 43xx
[05:31] <nooby-doo> ActionParsnip: ill remember that, hey could also help me fix another issue im having issues getting around since i cant find suitable forum for it either, i have bluetooth headphones and i paired it, it paired as headset anyway how do i send sound to bluetooth headphones?
[05:32] <sadiqpk> !info
[05:32] <sadiqpk> !who
[05:32] <ActionParsnip> nooby-doo: i dont use bluetooth dude
[05:33] <Nikie> after entering the password it's going back to the terminal
[05:34] <nooby-doo> ActionParsnip: no problem bro i think i need to research this more as my girlfriend is about to kick me outta the room hehehe
[05:34] <sadiqpk> Why everybody  in a single room? i couldn't breath well
[05:34] <ActionParsnip> Nikie: type the command exactly, the case is especially important:   sudo lshw -C network         (lshw spoken would be ell-ess-aych-doubleyou)
[05:35] <Nikie> yeah. I typed the same. it's sudo lshw -C network
[05:35] <Nikie> it's taken me back to the terminal
[05:35] <Guest94490> I'm unable to startup GUI environment after the update from 9.04 to 9.10..only able to start the gdm from command interface can anyone help me with this :)
[05:36] <baba> ActionParsnip, i sudo got them
[05:36] <baba> ActionParsnip, i'm just not sure if it installed
[05:36] <baba> ActionParsnip, better question: i'm not sure how to get to them
[05:37] <barin> hi
[05:37] <baba> hola
[05:37] <ActionParsnip> baba: the guuide I gave shows how to setup the dance thing
[05:37] <q_a_z_steve> hello
[05:37] <pie_time> hi
[05:37] <KE1HA> Guest94490:  sudo update-rc.d gdm dafaults  then do a restart
[05:38] <pie_time> could anyone tell me why i cant play music on a computer using ssh?
[05:38] <q_a_z_steve> Really fast, can someone tell me if there is a log of what is installed on my system, either something kept by aptitude or apt-get ?
[05:38] <maco> q_a_z_steve: dpkg --get selections
[05:38] <maco> q_a_z_steve: dpkg --get selections | grep " install"
[05:39] <Guest94490> k let me try that and i'll come back thanks :)
[05:39] <maco> q_a_z_steve: the first lists all installs and deinstalls. the second just shows the installs
[05:39] <maco> q_a_z_steve: oh dang, put a - in there. --get-selections, not a space
[05:39] <sadiqpk> Is here any channel to learn shell scripting ?
[05:39] <maco> #basg
[05:40] <maco> i cant type
[05:40] <maco> #bash
[05:40] <sadiqpk> what's happening here?
[05:40] <q_a_z_steve> maco Sorry maybe I need to clarify, what about something which shows them according to date installed?
[05:40] <sadiqpk> This is not shell
[05:40] <Guest94490> KE1HA >> showing up some error / warning..can i share with u ??
[05:40] <pie_time> maco im using ssh to connect to a networked pc but cant play my media
[05:40] <maco> q_a_z_steve: OH.... no
[05:41] <q_a_z_steve> sadiqpk try ##linux-coders
[05:41] <ActionParsnip> pie_time: via ssh the sound will come out of the system you are connected TO
[05:41] <maco> q_a_z_steve: you can view /var/log/apt/term.log but it only goes so far back
[05:41] <KE1HA> Guest94490:  sure, what's the error
[05:41] <ActionParsnip> pie_time: so if you run sound based stuff you will need to turn on the speakers of the server
[05:41] <maco> q_a_z_steve: and it includes things like updates
[05:41] <q_a_z_steve> maco how do I set that to maybe back up prior to overwriting?
[05:41] <sadiqpk> this is too much, my phone s about to hang, I'll be back l8r
[05:41] <ActionParsnip> sadiqpk: you can ask in here as well as in #bash
[05:42] <Guest94490> KE1HA >> http://pastebin.com/4mtw9QvD
[05:42] <Nikie> ActionParsnip : "product: PRO/Wireless 5100 AGN [Shiloh] Network Connection"
[05:42] <lewench> Hello, I have a small issue, I was playing World Of Warcraft, and my Ubuntu froze up had to turn off the power. For some reason when it rebooted the xorg.conf file (I assume) got messed up. I can only use a resolution os 640x480. I am using an Nvidia 8800GTS with the recommended drivers. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
[05:42] <pie_time> ActionParsnip, how do i use sshfs to play media on the computer im using?
[05:42] <Nikie> Does this help you in walking me through further ?
[05:42] <maco> q_a_z_steve: logrotate renames the old one as term.log.1 and then term.log.2.gz but after 7 or so (i think?) it just offs it, so maybe change logrotate to never delete apt logs
[05:43] <q_a_z_steve> that sadiqpk had IRC on his PHONE?
[05:43] <logankoester> lewench: an easy fix might be to just delete your xorg.conf and then restart
[05:43] <maco> q_a_z_steve: ive never played with logrotate's configs, but it at least gives you somewhere to look
[05:43] <Nikie> product: NetLink BCM5784M Gigabit Ethernet PCIe
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> pie_time: you can setup a stream using smoe app like mplayer or vlc via ssh then connect to the steam on the local pc
[05:43] <logankoester> lewench: it will be regenerated
[05:43] <KE1HA> Guest94490:  Ahh, it's already there, try starting it: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[05:43] <maco> q_a_z_steve: sure you can install irssi on an android phone and irc from the terminal...
[05:43] <q_a_z_steve> maco is that an apt command or a stand alone command?
[05:44] <pie_time> ActionParsnip, what if i want videos and music on demand from the file server
[05:44] <maco> q_a_z_steve: logrotate is its own thing. it handles all the stuff in /var/log/*
[05:44] <lewench> logankoester, I tried that. I removed it, and did sudo nvidia-xconfig, still nothing...
[05:44] <ActionParsnip> Nikie: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1045143    looks like you need a firmware file
[05:44] <Guest94490> KE1HA >> http://pastebin.com/jbNEsw8G
[05:44] <ActionParsnip> pie_time: same thing afaik
[05:44] <q_a_z_steve> maco okay, sweet thanks.
[05:44] <pie_time> ActionParsnip, what do you mean stream?
[05:45] <q_a_z_steve> maco ircII is only good for nights like this, if we were any busier I'd be hosed!
[05:45] <ratdog> fixed >:)
[05:45] <Nikie> ActionParship : FIXED !!! :-)...I just right clicked on the Wireless Icon located in the system tray and selected "Enable Network".
[05:45] <pie_time> ActionParsnip, can you view thumbnails in ubuntu in ssh?
[05:46] <Nikie> It's enabled and i could access the net :-)...Thanks a bunch for the quick turn around !!! Cheers !!!
[05:46] <ActionParsnip> pie_time: well you will start a stream playing on the server and connect to it. a MUCH easier way is to share a folder of your media on the server using samba and simply access the files that way as you want them
[05:46] <pie_time> god damnit
[05:46] <pie_time> sorry
[05:47] <KE1HA> Guest94490:  Seem PM
[05:47] <KE1HA> See PM
[05:48] <champion9660> I'm currently experiencing problems getting windows vista to boot. I used my handy Ubuntu Live CD and can't seem to find my main HD. My external HD's are showing up just fine, but the main HD, where my Windows installation is installed, is nowhere to be found. Can someone help me locate it?
[05:48] <lewench> logankoester, it seems my sound isn't working either... Can this be another symptom besides the xorg?
[05:48] <pie_time> ActionParsnip, i cant get samba to work
[05:48] <sacarlson> well that nvidia install killed me.  I guess I should have backup the /etc/X11/xorg.conf  sooner.  I can't even get it to boot in vesa from recover mode.  says can't find nvidea driver then when I try vesa I get can't use the monitor settings or something.
[05:48] <maco> champion9660: my initial response is "uh oh, your drive is screwed"
[05:49] <ActionParsnip> pie_time: i can give you my smb.conf if you want. It shows shares defined and you can tweak it to your needs
[05:49] <sadiqpkp> you may try deleting the xorg.conf file and restart
[05:49] <sacarlson> I think I need to make some new custom xorg.conf to get me back to first nuvo driver or whatever default is for nvidia
[05:49] <Guest94490> KE1HA >> i'm already in my desktop..however i have to go thru the recovery and get into it..just wana fix it
[05:49] <sadiqpkp> and reconfigure graphics
[05:49] <pie_time> ok
[05:49] <champion9660> maco: The Ubuntu Live CD "check hard disk for errors" came back fine.
[05:50] <pie_time> ActionParsnip, ok that sounds good
[05:50] <maco> champion9660: the live cd offers to check *the cd* for erros
[05:50] <maco> *errors
[05:50] <champion9660> Oh.
[05:50] <champion9660> maco: So, why wouldn't the drive show up at all under "Computer"?
[05:50] <maco> champion9660:  does "sudo fdisk -l"  show the drive?
[05:51] <sadiqpkp>  
[05:51] <sacarlson> sadiqpkp: ya reconfigure from the command line,  I think I will have to write that down
[05:51] <KE1HA> Guest94490:  I sent you the Bug Information that relates to this issue in 9.10.
[05:51] <champion9660> maco: Yes actually. Woohoo.
[05:51] <johzephine> someone come install dwarf fortress for me
[05:52] <maco> champion9660: ok so then install smartmontools
[05:52] <ratdog> anyone have a problem with Firefox 4 insisting on staying ontop no matter what?
[05:52] <champion9660> maco: Actually I think I am incorrect. I might be getting my external HD confused. Let me unplug it.
[05:52] <ActionParsnip> pie_time: http://pastebin.com/SSMSSJum
[05:53] <presly> elo
[05:53] <presly> helo
[05:53] <Guest94490> KE1HA >> yea i just got to that point as well ..lol...do you think upgrading it will help to 10.0 ?
[05:53] <ActionParsnip> pie_time: the bottom bits are what you need to modify. I have samba users setup to manage access
[05:53] <Guest94490> KE1HA >> k got it....i should burn and install or just upgrade ? it's a fresh system anyway..no data on it
[05:54] <ActionParsnip> pie_time: you could edit those out and test. If you are sharing in the home directory you may need them and you will need to run:  sudo smbpasswd -a name   (replace name with your username/s)
[05:54] <champion9660> maco: I just unplugged my external HD and my USB flash drive, and "sudo fdisk -l" is returning nothing.
[05:54] <maco> champion9660: then i hope you had a backup
[05:55] <champion9660> maco: LOL, dare I ask why?
[05:55] <johzephine> i can't find synaptics package manager
[05:55] <KE1HA> Guest94490:  Yes, If you have no need for 9.10 specifically, I would use 10.04.1.
[05:55] <maco> champion9660: dead
[05:55] <ratdog> FF4 insists on staying optop, even when i move FF to the next desktop.
[05:55] <maco> champion9660: if you are lucky, you can find an identical drive, unscrew the circuit board from the dead one, put the good one's circuit board on, and it might work. often the circuit board fails before the mechanics.
[05:56] <maco> champion9660: if you heard any noise from the disk before, then its the mechanics that are bad... sometimes putting it in the freezer shifts things into place long enough to hurriedly copy data off if you didnt have a backup
[05:56] <Guest94490> KE1HA >> one more question i was going to burn the new image but i can't see my other data drives in in GUI how do i get to them to get the image
[05:56] <champion9660> maco: I see. The data that's on it is not important. I kept all my media on the external.
[05:56] <champion9660> maco: So, the HD is now a fancy and expensive paperweight?
[05:56] <maco> champion9660: yep
[05:57] <maco> champion9660: check your warranty if its < 5 yr old
[05:57] <champion9660> maco: Lovely. Thank you for your help and prompt response!
[05:57] <ActionParsnip> johzephine: use software centre instead
[05:57] <maco> champion9660: sorry it couldnt be better news
[05:57] <champion9660> maco: Well my Linux skills were a little rusty, couldn't even remember how fstab worked.
[05:57] <johzephine> ActionParsnip, Thanks.  I need to install libraries to install dwarf fortress, but I can't find them using software centre.
[05:58] <KE1HA> Guest94490:  you probably need to mount the drives. pastebin: df -hT and sudo fdisk -l
[05:58] <champion9660> maco: And that's OK. I bought this computer from a friend of mine; he built it from scratch. Hopefully it'll still be under warranty.
[05:58] <champion9660> maco: The HD*
[05:58] <ActionParsnip> johzephine: theres getlibs (i believe its called that)
[05:58] <maco> champion9660: warranties are often 3 or 5 years so... i think seagate standard is 5
[05:59] <shamez> anyone give me a link to ubuntu offtopic...
[06:00] <maco> shamez: #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:00] <melfy> is there a  scp type app that I can login and run a script instead of upload file
[06:00] <shamez> maco, cool :-)
[06:00] <Guest94490> KE1HA >> k thanks i think i got the idea ;)
[06:00] <Scrumps_> Hey, I am having a hard time understanding this.... http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=17511
[06:00] <Scrumps_> What does it mean by put it in your user path?
[06:00] <Scrumps_> /home/me/here
[06:00] <KE1HA> Guest94490:  Ok, let us know if you need more help.
[06:01] <Scrumps_> Oh, what I am talking about is about halfway down the page regarding how to associate .torrent files with utorrent.
[06:01] <foureight84> does this tutorial for calling yahoo messenger users using ekiga still valid? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=414121
[06:01] <Guest94490> KE1HA >> k thanks bud u been great help :)
[06:01] <KE1HA> Welsome
[06:02] <KE1HA> Now if I could only type, life would be good :-)
[06:02] <ActionParsnip> Scrumps_: why not just use a native torrent client?
[06:03] <Scrumps_> Because, I don't particularly like transmission, and many of the other torrent clients on Linux.
[06:03] <Scrumps_> I have tried a lot of them.
[06:03] <johzephine> ActionParsnip, can't find getlibs :/
[06:03] <sacarlson> good call whoever told me.  I deleted /etc/X11/xorg.conf  rebooted then it came up ok,  I then tried nvidia 173 driver and reboot and it seems to be working.
[06:03] <ActionParsnip> Scrumps_: it means that the code given is a script, and you should put it in one of the folders in $PATH
[06:03] <sadiqpkp> thanx, I said
[06:03] <ActionParsnip> Scrumps_: wine will chew a lot of resources compared to the native clients
[06:03] <Scrumps_> Okay, but, what is $path
[06:04] <ActionParsnip> Scrumps_: in termianl run: echo $PATH     choose a folder and put the script in
[06:05] <ActionParsnip> Scrumps_: you'll need to mark the script as executable, then tell nautilus and whatver apps to open torrent files with the script
[06:05] <ActionParsnip> Scrumps_: PATH are the folders where binarys reside and you can call them without having to absolutely define them
[06:05] <gnuplanet> Scrumps_: What torrent client do you like ?
[06:06] <sacarlson> ok so now how do I activate compiz?   I see boxes in it that are checked but I still can't get the zoom to work with the supperkey
[06:06] <sadiqpkp> Type export in shell to see your PATH
[06:06] <ActionParsnip> sacarlson: do you have 3d acelleration setup?
[06:06] <sacarlson> ActionParsnip: probly not
[06:06] <Scrumps_> gnuplanet, I like utorrent. Not much else. I tried transmission, I had azuerues a while ago, tried rtorrent, tried deluge (not sure if that was any better since I tried it), can't use ktorrent unless I install KDE, which I don't want to do.
[06:07] <sacarlson> ActionParsnip: but all I want is the magnifier
[06:07] <ActionParsnip> sacarlson: ok then run: lspci | grep -i vga    websearch for the result to find guides
[06:07] <ZykoticK9> sadiqpkp, "echo $PATH" is an easier/less cluttered why to see your path
[06:07] <ActionParsnip> sacarlson: theres xmag if you just want a magnifier
[06:07] <sacarlson> ActionParsnip: compatible controller: nVidia Corporation C61 [GeForce 6100 nForce 405] (rev a2)
[06:08] <ActionParsnip> !nvidia | sacarlson
[06:08] <sadiqpkp> for beginners simple commands are welcome, that's why
[06:10] <cystic> yo
[06:11] <ActionParsnip> sacarlson: http://pastie.org/1123595   should do it
[06:11] <gnuplanet> Scrumps_: I think nonsense install utorrent, there are many native torrent clients, but that's my opinion ... The good news is that the version of utorrent for linux is already in development but not free software: s
[06:12] <sacarlson> ActionParsnip: I'm reading it
[06:12] <sacarlson> ActionParsnip: the first you sent me that is
[06:12] <brandon420> anyonw know how to access mounted hdd's from wine?
[06:12] <Scrumps_> By free, do you mean as in open source, or having to actually pay to use the software?
[06:12] <sadiqpkp> Just open cmd in wine and change drive
[06:13] <sacarlson> ActionParsnip: I already installed the drivers with System>admin>hardware  I thought that did all this stuf
[06:14] <sadiqpkp> free doesn't mean free as in 'FREE', but free to use, modify, distribute, that's all
[06:14] <ActionParsnip> sacarlson: you may need an xorg.conf to define refresh rates if your monitor isnt reporting them correctly
[06:14] <sacarlson> ActionParsnip: do I still need to do your pastebin instrucitons if I already have the driver isntalled?  I looked and see I have no xorg.conf after the install
[06:15] <gnuplanet> Scrumps_: No need to pay. But free software and open source are distinct things
[06:15] <sacarlson> ActionParsnip: ya my monitor has caused me problems in the past not being on some list or not being able to be read
[06:16] <brandon420> sadiqpkp, how do i do that? lol, im a noob with wine, i just installed it today
[06:16] <sacarlson> ActionParsnip: how can I tell what driver is really running on my video?
[06:16] <ActionParsnip> sacarlson: if they aren't needed the system will tell you ;)
[06:16] <sadiqpkp> K, sorry
[06:16] <ActionParsnip> sacarlson: if you run: sudo lshw -C display   you will see the drivername the system is using
[06:16] <sacarlson> lsmod I see nouveau
[06:16] <sadiqpkp> But
[06:16] <abhinav> Scrumps_: A lot of people have used utorrent under wine without any issues
[06:16] <champion9660> maco: You still there buddy?
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> I use utorrent under wine all the time. - Been using Deluge lately however.
[06:16] <maco> champion9660: yep
[06:17] <ActionParsnip> abhinav: its a bit weird though, considering the amount of native clients
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> With torrent clients - it seems its always the little things that  differ. :)
[06:17] <champion9660> maco: "Install Ubuntu" sees that I have a HD. fdisk doesn't. What gives?
[06:17]  * ActionParsnip uses transmission headlessly
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> I like how utorrent does some things. Deluge is a little awkward in some ways.
[06:17] <maco> champion9660: is it seeing the external again?
[06:17] <maco> champion9660: ls /dev/sd*
[06:17] <sacarlson> ActionParsnip: yup from your method I get configuration: driver=nouveau latency=0
[06:17] <champion9660> maco: No sir.
[06:17] <sadiqpkp> !info torrent
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> Seen other clients with features i wish were in utorrent and deluge.
[06:18]  * maco not a knight
[06:18] <champion9660> maco: "SCSI1 (0,0,0) (sda) - 150.0 GB ATA WDC WD1500AHFD-0
[06:18] <champion9660> maco: Begging your pardon.
[06:18] <abhinav> ActionParsnip: Agreed. I don't know why, but transmission gives me a lot of issues (stops downloading randomly, etc). Vuze (which is very heavy) is what I am using right now, along with deluge sometimes.
[06:18] <ActionParsnip> sacarlson: thats the open driver for nvidia's. You can use the 180 driver if you want: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-180 dkms
[06:18] <champion9660> maco: Although it DOES say "This computer has no operating systems on it." Which is a bold-faced lie.
 Scrumps_: A lot of people have used utorrent under wine without any issues - Well, I was just told that I wasn't going to be able to do use it how I wanted, as it wasn't possible.
[06:19] <sacarlson> ActionParsnip: I have the 173 installed just need to create a xorg.conf to start running it
[06:19] <maco> champion9660: unless the partition table is corrupted...
[06:19] <maco> champion9660: ok see now thats just weird. install smartmontools and follow this thingy https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Smartmontools
[06:19] <Scrumps_> Then was recommended doing the script to get the files to open using Wine...
[06:19] <Scrumps_> Which, still doesn't work apparently.
[06:19] <maco> champion9660: SMART is for hard drive diagnostics
[06:19] <champion9660> maco: Will do. Thanks again.
[06:19] <sacarlson> ActionParsnip: seems the current that must be 180 caused my kernel to crash.
[06:19] <ActionParsnip> sacarlson: cool: sudo nvidia-xconfig
[06:19] <gnuplanet> In my opinion, use utorrent with wine, is like being inside a Mercedes being towed
[06:19] <sacarlson> ActionParsnip:  ok that's what I must need thanks
[06:20] <champion9660> maco: Wait, can I install packages in Live mode?
[06:20] <maco> champion9660: yep
[06:21] <Scrumps_> Well, it works, I was just hoping that if I were to download a .torrent file, that it would be able to open up within utorrent, and it can't do that.
[06:21] <Scrumps_> Say from Nautilus or Firefox.
[06:21] <Scrumps_> I have to manually add the torrents.
[06:21] <abhinav> Scrumps_: ok, just read back on your earlier messages. There should be a way to open the downloaded files.. I do it with some other apps. Let me see and get back in a while
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> Scrumps_:  you can set it up whjere it CAN do that.
[06:22] <sacarlson> ActionParsnip: ok that created a new /etc/X11/xorg.conf  so time to see if it works.  reboot time
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> Scrumps_:  or you can make utorrent autoload torrents from some saved directory locatiion
[06:22] <Scrumps_> Dr_Willis, I can set it up, yes, but it doesn't work.
[06:22] <ActionParsnip> Scrumps_: set teh default app by right clicking and associating torrent files with the script you made
[06:23] <sadiqpkp> !info deluge-torrent
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> Scrumps_:  it works here.    so i guess you dident set it up riught. :)  I made a script that does the actual work and launches utorrent with the proper options/path to the .torrent file
[06:23] <gnuplanet> Scrumps_: So, it works, not only works well :s
[06:23] <foureight84> are there any solutions for ubuntu that supports video chat with yahoo messenger users?
[06:23] <ActionParsnip> sadiqpkp: 68Kb installed is pretty sweeet
[06:23] <champion9660> maco: OK. The page you linked tells me to "smarctl -i /dev/sda" -- I get: Smartctl open device: /dev/sda failed: Permission denied
[06:23] <foureight84> i've tried ekiga but it doesn't seem to be working
[06:23] <ratdog> k, serous prob here, no matter what i do Firefoa 4, (minefield) insists on staying ontop being the top window.
[06:23] <maco> champion9660: sudo
[06:24] <ratdog> firefox
[06:24] <Scrumps_> Dr_Willis, I tried doing the script from Wine's website, but, it didn't work for me.
[06:24] <Scrumps_> And, no one is responding within #winehq to help me out with that script either.
[06:24] <sadiqpkp> use sudo
[06:24] <champion9660> maco: Short INQUIRY response, skip product id \\ A mandatory SMART command failed: exiting. To continue, add one or more '-T permissive' options.
[06:25] <maco> champion9660: uhhh...O_o
[06:25] <ActionParsnip> Scrumps_: lots easier to use the native clients....
[06:26] <foureight84> are there any solutions for ubuntu that supports video chat with yahoo messenger users?
[06:26] <sadiqpkp> !info ktorrent
[06:26] <ActionParsnip> foureight84: you could install the none-open virtualbox, shell out for xp and use the windows yahoo client
[06:26] <maco> champion9660: i guess put "-T permissive" in the command then...
[06:27] <sadiqpkp> !info empathy
[06:27] <champion9660> maco: Worked, but I just get the: Short INQUIRY response, skip product id
[06:28]  * maco takes this as a bad sign
[06:28] <lewis1711> what are those CPU profiles called? The ones that decide what frequency your CPU operates on depending on loads?
[06:28] <champion9660> maco: Well, since at the worst the HD is dead and at the best Windows won't even boot, I'm going to try to Install Linux and see what happens.
[06:29] <maco> champion9660: good luck
[06:29] <champion9660> maco: Heh, the partition manager isn't showing any partitions.
[06:30] <maco> champion9660: ok so at the very least, the partition table was corrupted...and corruption is a Bad Thing
[06:30] <champion9660> maco: Gotcha.
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> heres my 'startutorrent.sh' script i use to get torrents in FF. to start up in utorrent.exe ---> http://pastebin.com/QHfits7N
[06:32] <DsDude> hey guys
[06:32] <champion9660> maco: Getting an IO error. Ha.
[06:32] <foureight84> ActionParsnip: hmm well that's a bit difficult since my laptop is slow and virtualbox can't share my laptop's webcam
[06:32] <ActionParsnip> foureight84: the closed source one may
[06:33] <DsDude> Does anyone here use backtrac
[06:33] <Scrumps_> Dr_Willis, I will try that, where di you put it?
[06:33] <ActionParsnip> DsDude: backtrack is offtopic here
[06:33] <brandon420> can anyone tell me how to access a mounted hdd in wine?
[06:33] <foureight84> ActionParsnip: hmm let me look for that then
[06:33] <foureight84> thanks for the tip
[06:33] <DsDude> oh okay
[06:33] <DsDude> sorry
[06:34] <ActionParsnip> DsDude: try #backtrack-linux
[06:34] <DsDude> mk
[06:34] <ActionParsnip> brandon420: add the mount point to the folders in the vbox config
[06:34] <brandon420> how do i find the mount point?
[06:34] <brandon420> lol
[06:35] <diva> need some help please
[06:35] <diva> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9779470#post9779470
[06:35] <ActionParsnip> brandon420: run: mount
[06:35] <lewis1711> damn it, it must be my graphics card that overheats and shuts the laptop down. It never used to do it in arch linux, maybe the catalyst I'm using is an older version
[06:36] <brandon420> ActionParsnip, wow, ill try and figure out what is what, lol
[06:36] <ActionParsnip> diva: you need a partition to be / and format it ext4
[06:36] <Marucha> hello
[06:36] <diva> ?
[06:36] <ActionParsnip> brandon420: i'd ask in #vbox
[06:36] <diva> i think i did
[06:36] <ActionParsnip> diva: you need a partition defined for /  make it at least 6gb to be comfortable
[06:37] <diva> ???
[06:37] <brandon420> ActionParsnip,  your a god! thanks man!
[06:37] <ActionParsnip> diva: set sda5 as mounted as '/'
[06:37] <ActionParsnip> brandon420: always a pleasuer
[06:37] <brandon420> ActionParsnip,  i have been asking the google god for answers for like a hour, lol
[06:37] <diva> done
[06:37] <diva> it works thank
[06:38] <baba> ActionParsnip, can you please tell me how to check?
[06:38] <diva> but is 4gb for swap area enough
[06:38] <ActionParsnip> diva: and mark it for formatting so its all clear and ready to go. The installer wil now see that a root partition is defined and allow the install to run
[06:38] <diva> since i only have 4gb of ram
[06:38] <ActionParsnip> baba: check what?
[06:38] <ActionParsnip> diva: you have defined a 40Gb swap...
[06:38] <diva> what
[06:39] <baba> ActionParsnip, how do I run apache once I download it?
[06:39] <ActionParsnip> diva: look at the image, you have setup a 40Gb swap
[06:39] <baba> from the repository
[06:39] <diva> how big should a swap area be?
[06:39] <baba> i did aptitude, does that install as well?
[06:39] <ActionParsnip> baba: it sets itself to autorun at boot and runs itself after install too
[06:39] <ActionParsnip> diva: 4Gb
[06:39] <ActionParsnip> diva: not 40Gb
[06:39] <baba> ActionParsnip, so how do I find the console for it?
[06:39] <diva> how do u set it as 4gb
[06:40] <diva> not 40gb
[06:40] <ActionParsnip> diva: unless you have 40Gb ram and REALLY need suspend...
[06:40] <diva> so 40gb is 400? in the formatting?
[06:40] <ActionParsnip> diva: delete the swap partition and the ext4 partition and reset them up. have a 4gb swap space then set the rest of the space for / and formatted ext4
[06:41] <DeliriumTremens> Alright, I am pretty new to linux...I had ssh working two days ago...now i have a new install and ssh wont work; i cant figure out why
[06:41] <ActionParsnip> DeliriumTremens: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[06:41] <DeliriumTremens> ActionParsnip: did that, i configured it the same way as I had it before
[06:41] <DeliriumTremens> but its refusing connections
[06:42] <DeliriumTremens> the right port has been forwarded on the router
[06:42] <diva> so 4gb=?mb?
[06:42] <diva> need some help
[06:42] <baba> ActionParsnip?
[06:42] <DsDude> diva, 4 gb = 4,000 mb
[06:42] <DeliriumTremens> putty tells me "software has caused connection abort"
[06:42] <diva> 4096?
[06:42] <ActionParsnip> diva 4Gb == 4 x 1024 == 4096
[06:43] <DsDude> oh sorry yeah
[06:43] <DsDude> 4096
[06:43] <ActionParsnip> DeliriumTremens: do you have any firewall rules configured
[06:43] <DeliriumTremens> no
[06:43] <diva> is okay
[06:43] <DeliriumTremens> this worked two days ago on pretty much the exact same configuration
[06:43] <DeliriumTremens> on this new install it wont jive
[06:43] <diva> looking forward to install ubuntu in my alienware m11x
[06:43] <baba> can someone tell me how to get to the Apache console?
[06:44] <baba> or is it completely CL
[06:44] <ActionParsnip> DeliriumTremens: check the listening apps in : netstat -a
[06:44] <DeliriumTremens> when i do: ssh -v localhost i get a failure message
[06:45] <diva> is there a online converter that will convert mb into gb?
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> diva:  X*1024   is to hard?
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> then ya got the MiB and GiB stuff :)
[06:45] <DeliriumTremens> that port is listening..
[06:45] <maco> Dr_Willis: heck, not even X*1024. just X*1000.  MiB & GiB are 1024
[06:46] <DeliriumTremens> *:PORT
[06:46] <maco> Dr_Willis: though *cough* it's divide
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> maco:  is that they decided? I missed the memo
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> MarketingMb MarketingGB
[06:47] <maco> Dr_Willis: yep, MiB = mega binary byte, so it uses the 1024 numbering
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> Vs. ComputerProgramerMB  ComputerProgramerGB :)
[06:47] <fred2040> Hello, I have a little question... Can I upgrade gnome then nautilus in karmic to 3?
[06:47] <ActionParsnip> DeliriumTremens: check the IP too
[06:47] <DeliriumTremens> the IP is the same as the previous install
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> maco:  seems backwards  to do it that way.. but thats how marketing works
[06:48] <maco> Dr_Willis: well and thats how SI works ;-)
[06:48] <ActionParsnip> DeliriumTremens: also check the port used in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[06:48] <diva> installing ubuntu on alienware m11x so happy
[06:48] <Jordan_U> maco: Dr_Willis: *mibibyte
[06:48] <diva> hope that it works
[06:48] <DeliriumTremens> i manually set the port to the port I am forwarding to this IP
[06:48] <Jordan_U> s/mibi/mebi/
[06:48] <diva> installing time to quit
[06:48] <maco> Jordan_U: yes but mebibyte is an abbreviation of mega binary byte. just like bit is an abbreviation of bidgit
[06:48] <diva> c-u guys
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> I look up at my wall. and see a Timex Sinclare 1000 with a Huge 4K of memory.. is that 4KiB now? :)
[06:48] <DeliriumTremens> when i try to connect to myself on this box i get a 'connection reset by peer'
[06:48] <diva> thank for the help!
[06:48] <Jordan_U> maco: Ahh, should have known that :)
[06:49] <bullgard4> fred2040: I do not know for sure if you can. I would think, yes, but with considerable effort. I recommend to wait for Maverick.
[06:49] <DeliriumTremens> i tried removing openssh then reinstalling, that didnt do it
[06:49] <ezrafree> any ideas on a gui video converter that can convert avi to wmv?
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> DeliriumTremens:  'ssh localhost' on the local machine works or not?
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> ezrafree:  winff,  avidemux or other guis to ffmpeg and mencoder
[06:50] <DeliriumTremens> Dr_Willis: no, 'connection reset by peer'
[06:50]  * maco totally needs to use the word "bigit" more often
[06:50] <fred2040> regards bullgard4, ty, is the best option!
[06:50] <ezrafree> i have winff and avidemux and it seems neither work
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> ezrafree:  its more about the 'codec' then the file extension.
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> ezrafree:  theres dozens of different codecs you can be using for avi and wmv.
[06:50]  * Jordan_U needs to use the word "nibble" more often.
[06:50] <Name141> Is there any specific reason to run Dell's ISO over the Cronical ?
[06:50] <sadiqpkp> You may try to use vlc
[06:51] <sadiqpkp> vlc is a video player as well as converter
[06:51] <bullgard4> Jordan_U: Please stay to topic and tell that in #ubuntu-offtopic.
[06:51] <ezrafree> i am able to convert to wmv from an avi file using mencoder on the command line okay
[06:51] <Jordan_U> bullgard4: Sorry.
[06:51] <ezrafree> i just want to do it in a gui so it'll be less of a pain
[06:52] <sadiqpkp> vlc  player has gui
[06:52] <Name141> Or can you get the same things from cronical (or whatever) iso just like if you downloaded the dell DVD?
[06:52] <Jordan_U> Name141: I believe that Dell's iso contains Dell specific drivers and has a repository from Dell for driver updates setup by default, along with restricted codecs installed by default.
[06:52] <Name141> Jordan_U: So it 'might' be better for me to get it since I have a dell PC?
[06:53] <sadiqpkp> Click file and select convert in vlc player
[06:53] <Jordan_U> Name141: Only if you have a Dell that came with Ubuntu.
[06:53] <Name141> Jordan_U: no, it came with XP
[06:53] <Name141> by my choice
[06:53] <ezrafree> can vlc player convert?
[06:53] <Name141> I didn't want anything to do with Vista
[06:54] <Name141> (but never mind that0
[06:54] <sadiqpkp> yes vlc player has a menu to convert
[06:54] <sadiqpkp> !info vlc
[06:54] <KE1HA> Name141:  good plan, i'd try with 10.04.1 to start and go from there.
[06:54] <Jordan_U> ezrafree: Yes, but it's not particularly good as a transcoder.
[06:54] <Name141> KE1HA: I think I'll just go ahead and download the ISO.  Can I run Dell's "wubied" ?
[06:54] <sadiqpkp> yeah , sure, not best quality conversion
[06:55] <Name141> KE1HA: Or does it have that option like the original ?
[06:55] <Name141> also, is there a dell specific channel?
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> ezrafree:  ffmpeg -i foo.avi  foo.wmv    seems to work just fine for me.
[06:56] <KE1HA> Name141:  I've no Idea about Dell ISO's.
[06:56] <ratdog> "In a world without walls and fences who needs Windows and Gates?"
[06:56] <DeliriumTremens> does ubuntu block any ports by default?
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> DeliriumTremens:  No it does not
[06:56] <ActionParsnip> ratdog: microsoft gives you windows, linux gives you the whole house
[06:56] <ratdog> heh
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> DeliriumTremens:  use 'sudo iptables --list' to see if any rules exist
[06:57] <ActionParsnip> ratdog: those things are older than your grandma dude
[06:57] <DeliriumTremens> ugh
[06:57] <ratdog> some HAVENT herd them ActionParsnip, >:)
[06:58] <DeliriumTremens> ok
[06:58] <Name141> KE1HA: Ok.  About the only reason I'm on XP is cause I play games.  I don't know if I could switch, thus I was thinking I'd try it all wubied and wined first
[06:58] <DeliriumTremens> so i can connect locally if i dont use the forwarded port
[06:58] <DeliriumTremens> ugh
[06:59] <ActionParsnip> DeliriumTremens: can you connect to the system over LAN?
[06:59] <sadiqpkp> and the same, the only reason I don't use windows is that I don't play games to waste time
[06:59] <ratdog> gaw CSI Miami is so stupid
[06:59] <KE1HA> Name141:  You may want to inquire about PlayonLinux & Wine, but Im not a big PC-Gamer, I use consoles fer that.
[06:59] <ezrafree> i don't see an option in avidemux for encoding to wmv. could wmv go by another name perhaps?
[07:00] <Name141> KE1HA: I'm too broke for a "gaming hardware" AND a computer
[07:00] <Name141> KE1HA: Thus I play them on the PC.
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> ezrafree:  why do you need a wmv anyway?
[07:01] <Name141> adult videos.
[07:01] <DeliriumTremens> locally yes
[07:01] <ezrafree> Dr_Willis: apparently my friend says that's what i need to play a movie on his xbox
[07:01] <ratdog> ahhahhahhahahhhaha
[07:01] <KE1HA> Name141:  Well, there's always Wubi and Dualboot options for you. Have a read on those and see which best fits you needs.
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> ezrafree:  actually you need to determine what codec of wmv also...
[07:01] <ezrafree> i've been able to do it successfully on the command line in mencoder but sometimes the sound is off sync
[07:01] <Name141> KE1HA: Yeah.  Last I remember anything over hardy didn't like my internal nic.. Windows7 doesn't even like it
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> ezrafree:  ffmpeg -i foo.avi  foo.wmv    has worked for me  in the past.
[07:02] <ratdog> why not use vlc?
[07:02] <ActionParsnip> ezrafree: why waste time trying to make some gui crap work, when a user has given you a command which will do it for you ??
[07:02] <glickster> hey can i use packages meant for debian with ubuntu?
[07:02] <ezrafree> Dr_Willis: ah thank you very much, i will try that instead of mencoder
[07:02] <glickster> or will that break my system?
[07:02] <ActionParsnip> ratdog: there is a single commandline command which will do it, vlc isnt needed
[07:02] <madfox> glickster ubuntu is debian based the packages will still work
[07:03] <ezrafree> ActionParsnip: until Dr_Willis just now, i didn't see anyone give me a command prior to that, sorry
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> ezrafree:  mencoder is just about as simple also.
[07:03] <sadiqpkp> what about smv_encode
[07:03] <DeliriumTremens> ok
[07:03] <DeliriumTremens> when i change the source port
[07:03] <DeliriumTremens> locally i cant connect
[07:03] <sadiqpkp> I think it's not in ubuntu package list
[07:03] <DeliriumTremens> if i remove the changed port it connects fine
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> ezrafree:  i gave you that command about 5 min ago also.. :)  Its from the ffmpeg faq/beginner docs/examples page :)
[07:03] <ActionParsnip> ezrafree: well now you have it, you could even make a script for it and use a filename as an arg :)
[07:03] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: thats what I tought
[07:03] <ezrafree> mencoder file.avi -o file.wmv -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=wmv2 -oac lavc -lavcopts acodec=wmav2 -of lavf
[07:03] <ezrafree> that's what i've been using now
[07:04] <xaro> Buenas noches
[07:04] <xaro> alguien de habla hispana?
[07:04] <xaro> hay alguien de habla hispana?
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> ezrafree:  ffmpeg can be as complex as that.. the example i gave uses the 'defaults' for wmv. theres several DIFFERNT kinds of wmv/codecs out there.
[07:05] <glickster> madfox, so if i do dpgk -i packagename it will upgrad the current package?
[07:05] <ActionParsnip> !es | xaro
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> ezrafree:  your command is using the wmv2 codec for example (for video)
[07:05] <madfox> glickster run it and find out
[07:05] <ezrafree> is there anything i can do in either mencoder or ffmpeg when the sound gets off sync?
[07:05] <DeliriumTremens> wtf
[07:05] <madfox> glickster not like you are going to trash the whole system or anything
[07:05] <sadiqpkp> did you try vlc to convert, If not try once
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> ezrafree:  I recall the ffmpeg (and proberly mencoder) faq addressing that exact issue.
[07:06] <xaro> es una lastima que solo hablen ingles.
[07:06] <glickster> madfox, well, im doing it on a production server
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> brb
[07:06] <ezrafree> Dr_Willis: ah okay thanks i'll check their man pages in a bit and see
[07:06] <ActionParsnip> ezrafree: you may need to rebuild the index: mencoder -forceidx -oac copy -ovc copy infile.avi -o outfile.avi
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> check their homepage.. and faq
[07:07] <Psi-Jack-> Working with a .dsc file, how do I update the sha crc's used in the dsc file, so I can attempt to version bump up?
[07:07] <ActionParsnip> ezrafree: you also have to do it after combining files using cat :)
[07:07] <scriptwarlock> !es | xaro
[07:07] <madfox> glickster still not going to trash the system. Although shouldnt you be running anything on a test server first?
[07:08] <DeliriumTremens> I can SSH locally over LAN, but if I try to SSH via my dyndns I get refused
[07:08] <xaro> i understand. but a I need someone to speak spanish. in the spanish channel is sleeping
[07:08] <xaro> please.i need help
[07:08] <tlcomtom> hello everyone
[07:08] <scriptwarlock> xaro: try to speak english
[07:09] <sadiqpkp> i'm using SSH MIDP version
[07:09] <xaro> is very dificult. my inglish sucks
[07:09] <sadiqpkp> don't care, try to say english,
[07:09] <tlcomtom> is there anyone who could help a beginner and test a vpn? I need too see if it can be logged into from a remote location.
[07:10] <scriptwarlock> xaro: try to type in google translate then post back here the english translation
[07:10] <sadiqpkp> is here anybody who programms for ARM processors?
[07:10] <xaro> ok. i try.
[07:10] <Psi-Jack-> tlcomtom, You want random strangers to test your VPN? I don't think so.
[07:11] <tlcomtom> is that bad? its a crap machine, dont care if it gets crashed
[07:11] <Psi-Jack-> tlcomtom, We care.
[07:11] <Psi-Jack-> tlcomtom, Test it yourself. Bring your laptop to a place with WiFi, and test it.
[07:12] <tlcomtom> its 1am here.
[07:12] <baba> anyone ever use apache?
[07:12] <tlcomtom> and im impatient
[07:12] <Psi-Jack-> tlcomtom, *yawns* Go to sleep, then.
[07:12] <DeliriumTremens> ok
[07:12] <DeliriumTremens> so when I change the listening port in my sshd_config file nothing works
[07:12] <DeliriumTremens> if I leave default it works fine
[07:13] <tlcomtom> is there anyway to log into vpn from inside the local as if i were outside tunneling?
[07:13] <sadiqpkp> yes my friend your apache, hero honda
[07:13] <sadiqpkp> use
[07:13] <xaro> here we go...
[07:13] <xaro> try installing ubuntu 10.04. when I finish install. asks me to reboot. When you start ... says. installation will continue in a few seconds. And the screen is black. With the flashing line. TTY?.
[07:13] <scriptwarlock> DeliriumTremens: is your port forward same to the changed listening port?
[07:14] <sadiqpkp> hello xaro, can you understand english well?
[07:14] <DeliriumTremens> yes
[07:14] <xaro> a little. but use trasladator
[07:14] <tlcomtom> xaro, had same problem. i believe
[07:14] <DeliriumTremens> scriptwarlock: i'm positive it is
[07:14] <sadiqpkp> k
[07:15] <DeliriumTremens> i have default and special port set exactly the same on router
[07:15] <DeliriumTremens> and default works, special doesnt
[07:15] <scriptwarlock> DeliriumTremens: double check if the port forward is the same to the change listening port thru some safe sites
[07:15] <tlcomtom> that there was a command in grub that had to be added. cant remember it, but it disabled a interrupt controller during boot
[07:15] <sadiqpkp> Are you saying that you can't boot your computer , xaro?
[07:17] <scriptwarlock> DeliriumTremens: the default is 22?
[07:18] <GHH> hi all i am having big problem about downloading 2000mb file. I cant specifying which software should i use for download
[07:18] <tlcomtom> xaro, try no lapi in grub menu edit mode
[07:19] <GHH> Someone can help me please?
[07:19] <scriptwarlock> GHH: try torrent if avaiable
[07:19] <xaro> no lapi
[07:19] <GHH> sorry no torrent available
[07:19] <xaro> i try in some modes. but nothing
[07:19] <GHH> and my net speed only 10kb
[07:20] <sadiqpkp> Good
[07:20] <GHH> good!
[07:20] <GHH> why?
[07:20] <_mrn_ver_> hi all, i am working on java plateform .can anyone suggest me any application development for opensource coded in java
[07:20] <KE1HA> GHH:  also, look into using curl, you can split between mirros, then recombine once it's downloaded.
[07:20] <GHH> really this speed is very good than world
[07:21] <needle_> morning, i have a small question on cd-r/rw device, empty disc doesn´t get recognized by by nero,brasero, k3b .... device workes under windows , it mounts a original or burned disc well
[07:21] <sadiqpkp> hello, GHH, what I used to do to download big files is that , I go to public internet cafe , install any downloaders, start download , go to the same cafe after some days, take the file home, that's all
[07:21] <needle_> user is in cdrom grp
[07:21] <arooni-mobile> when i try to vnc to my desktop running 10.04; i cant see screen refresh (graphic effects are turned on and id prefer to leave them that way)
[07:22] <GHH> sadiqpkp, same speed in cafe also . they think only for money
[07:22] <scriptwarlock> GHH: ouch
[07:23] <johnny_> I was trying to boot the 10.04.1 64-bit desktop live cd and it gives me a "can not mount /dev/loop0" error. Google search hasn't come up with anything concrete. Does anyone have any ideas?
[07:23] <sadiqpkp> Sorry, GHH, better waste some time and download
[07:23] <scriptwarlock> GHH: how about the ff downthemall plugin
[07:23] <_mrn_ver_> hi all, i am working on java plateform .can anyone suggest me any application development for opensource coded in java
[07:23] <GHH> sadiqpkp, you are right
[07:23] <KE1HA> GHH:  see if this helps, definitely speeds things up here: http://linuxandfriends.com/2008/11/01/curl-split-a-file-and-download-simultaneously-from-multiple-locations/
[07:24] <arooni-mobile> can u turn off desktop effects from the command line?
[07:24] <Psi-Jack-> Working with a .dsc file, how do I update the sha crc's used in the dsc file, so I can attempt to version bump up?
[07:24] <GHH> need to download ISO file
[07:24] <sadiqpkp> in command line type metacity --replace
[07:25] <KE1HA> GHH:  that's what it is for, assuming the file is mirrored at multiple locations. If it's a single point, wont work.
[07:25] <anil> Hi I m new to IRC .. Can u plz. help me
[07:26] <sadiqpkp> Hello anil, me too joined IRC just yesterday
[07:26] <GHH> many thing to do if i am going to download by curl
[07:26] <sadiqpkp> until that I used mig33
[07:27] <sadiqpkp> !info curl
[07:27] <anil> don't konw what 's going on here
[07:27] <anil> is it darknet ?
[07:27] <johnny_> Is there a place I can download the previous 10.04 desktop images and not the 10.04.1?
[07:28] <anil> or some thing like that ?
[07:28] <baba> can someone tell me how to access apache
[07:28] <GHH> any other software?
[07:29] <scriptwarlock> johnny_: http://releases.ubuntu.com/
[07:29] <johnny_> scriptwarlock: I've tried that. The 10.04 link goes to 10.04.1
[07:30] <johnny_> scriptwarlock: I'm also specifically looking for the CD and not DVD images
[07:30] <KE1HA> johnny_: http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/
[07:30] <KE1HA> Check the dates: APR-2010
[07:30] <_mrn_ver_> hi all ,i am using ubuntu 10.04 .can please someone help me out for "lshw"command
[07:30] <scriptwarlock> johnny_: those 10.04 cds are being distributed to many places do you have local ubuntu community in your place?
[07:31] <Flannel> johnny_: All official repositories of 10.04 are now updated to 10.04.1, so you'd have to look to the non-official places for older versions
[07:31] <johnny_> Flannel: Alright thanks.
[07:31] <Flannel> johnny_: Another thing you might try is the alternate CD (if you're looking to install)
[07:31] <pie_time> could anyone help me with this please?
[07:31] <pie_time> i dont know how to do the weather bit
[07:31] <pie_time> http://conkyhardcore.com/screenshots/2009/by-crinos512/
[07:31] <johnny_> How is the alternate install different from the normal installer?
[07:31] <chong> _mrn_ver_: what's wrong?
[07:32] <_mrn_ver_> actually i get computer discription of 32 bits but for cpu specific information i get 64 bits for logical cpus
[07:32] <Flannel> johnny_: It doesn't use a liveCD.  It boots straight into the installer, and uses an entirely different method for installation (installation via packages instead of copying the liveCD image to the drive)
[07:32] <_mrn_ver_> can any one tell me what does this mean?
[07:32] <johnny_> Flannel: Thanks for the information. I'll look into that.
[07:32] <_mrn_ver_> chong: i think u got me
[07:33] <scriptwarlock> Flannel: does the alternate installer still 10.04?
[07:33] <chong> _mrn_ver_: show me the info
[07:33] <scriptwarlock> Flannel: not the 10.04.1?
[07:33] <Flannel> scriptwarlock: The alternate installer would be 10.04.1 as well, but it wouldn't be looking for a loopback (which is part of what the casper image (the liveCD) does to boot)
[07:33] <_mrn_ver_> and also for cpu "*-logicalcpu:0           description: Logical CPU         physical id: 0.1        width: 64 bits      capabilities: logical        *-logicalcpu:1   description: Logical CPU    physical id: 0.2 width: 64 bits  capabilities: logical"
[07:33] <johnny_> Flannel: Right. My main concern with going back to 10.04 was because of the loopback failing to mount.
[07:34] <scriptwarlock> Flannel: ah ok
[07:35] <_mrn_ver_> chong: i got this as i cant post while of the output coz it is too big
[07:35] <chong> _mrn_ver_: your system is 32 bit ?
[07:35] <_mrn_ver_> yes
[07:35] <_mrn_ver_> so why the cpu section showing 64 bit?
[07:35] <pie_time> http://conkyhardcore.com/screenshots/2009/by-crinos512/
[07:35] <pie_time> can someone help me with that^
[07:35] <chong> _mrn_ver_: your cpu really types?
[07:36] <_mrn_ver_> chong,:intel core 2 dou
[07:37] <GHH> if i download using firefox or wget then will it be crouptt?
[07:37] <GHH> that is a iso file
[07:37] <scriptwarlock> pie_time: what you need to do with that?
[07:37] <_mrn_ver_> chong:is this u were asking for?
[07:38] <chong> _mrn_ver_: yes, let me checkout my computer fist,
[07:38] <pie_time> scriptwarlock, i want to make conky show my local weather
[07:38] <_mrn_ver_> chong: ok ,thank you
[07:38] <scriptwarlock> pie_time: use a script or go here #conky..
[07:39] <scriptwarlock> pie_time: for detailed help
[07:39] <pie_time> scriptwarlock, he has a script there but i dont know how to use it
[07:40] <GHH> ?
[07:41] <KE1HA> GHH:  that's hard to say, normally, no, but it's possible on such a big file download.
[07:41] <scriptwarlock> pie_time: hmm conky thing..
[07:42] <diva> need help
[07:42] <diva> after i install ubuntu 10.04
[07:42] <diva> dual booting window 7 and ubuntu 10.04
[07:42] <GHH> KE1HA, good way to pass this worry?
[07:42] <sadiqpkp> !ve
[07:42] <diva> i boot into ubuntu then window 7
[07:42] <diva> after taht when i restart my pc
[07:43] <diva> i can't boot into any os
[07:43] <pie_time> scriptwarlock, what?
[07:43] <scriptwarlock> pie_time: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=869328
[07:43] <diva> is there a way to fix my boot loader using live usb
[07:43] <KE1HA> GHH:  use an error correcting app like rsync, or zsync then if the MD5SUM fails, rsync again for the needed changes.
[07:43] <sadiqpkp> to boot from USB without BIOS support , use plop boot manager
[07:44] <_mrn_ver_> diva: simplest case i can suggest is overwrite the mbr with new boot loader image
[07:44] <diva> how
[07:44] <GHH> KE1HA, i was downloaded that file but the md5 do not match
[07:44] <Esat> what is the name of ubuntu wiki page's channel?
[07:44] <scriptwarlock> pie_time: 2yrs old but informative
[07:44] <_mrn_ver_> plug-in the usb having bootable kernel image
[07:44] <diva> ok
[07:44] <_mrn_ver_> i think u know how to make a usb bootable
[07:45] <diva> i am using my live usb already
[07:45] <diva> kkk
[07:45] <_mrn_ver_> then click on try ubuntu
[07:45] <diva> ?
[07:45] <chong> _mrn_ver_: *-logicalcpu:0
[07:45] <chong>      description: Logical CPU
[07:45] <chong>      physical id: 2.1
[07:45] <chong>      width: 64 bits
[07:45] <diva> as in using my live ubuntu
[07:45] <FloodBot3> chong: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:45] <diva> ?
[07:45] <diva> I mean I am using my live ubuntu usb talking to u guys
[07:45] <diva> so what should I do next
[07:45] <Eryn_1983_FL> can somebody help me with cron.
[07:45] <Eryn_1983_FL> http://ww.pastebin.com/njcTqTuf
[07:45] <Eryn_1983_FL> they won't run
[07:46] <_mrn_ver_> chong: yes i was talking about this.why does they differ?
[07:46] <lws> Eryn_1983_FL: have you tried a process of elimination to determine which jobs are causng problems?
[07:46] <lws> or even just to test that cron is working at all?
[07:47] <diva> mrn how do i reinstall my grub boot loader
[07:47] <diva> please help
[07:47] <_mrn_ver_> diva:then in terminal mount the logical partition which contains ur ubuntu part
[07:47] <tlcomtom> can anyone help a noob with a grub? problem
[07:47] <_mrn_ver_> on mnt
[07:47] <KE1HA> GHH:  other than what I've suggested (curl, rsync, zsync), I don't know how else for you to correct the download.
[07:47] <diva> how
[07:48] <ylmf> hello
[07:48] <diva> http://pastebin.com/Ym8HEuDm
[07:48] <diva> what should i do next please help
[07:48] <chong> _mrn_ver_: lshw will scan you sysfs detect you pci device vendor id,and then search /usr/share/misc/*.ids to identify you device really type.
[07:48] <wy_> xcfb
[07:49] <chong> _mrn_ver_: there's nothing wrong ,your cpu core is 64bit
[07:49] <diva> help please
[07:49] <tlcomtom> had to add nolapic command to grub to get it to boot every time, but every since then machine wont come out of suspend if I close the laptop then open it. anyone have a suggestion?
[07:49] <michael__> Hi I was wondering if someone could help me out with my wlan settings. I've got an Atheros 9285 internal card on my laptop. I've downloaded and compiled the latest driver (ath9k) and hostapd. The problem is that it won't allow me to set master mode on it. Anyone got any hints on what might be wrong?
[07:50] <diva> i have no idea how to reinstall my grub boot loader for dual booting ubuntu and window 7
[07:50] <scriptwarlock> !hi | ylmf
[07:50] <sacarlson> I finaly got my nvidia card working with the propriatary 195.36 version.  and too cool the magnafier already works with the superkey mouse wheel.  I am so happy!!.  I had to complete remove version 173 and complete remove and reinstall version 195 before it started working.
[07:50] <fred2040> Hi, somebody knows how to open adobe air installer in root mode?
[07:50] <_mrn_ver_> chong: u are saying that my core processor part is 64 bit but overall computer structure is 32 bit.is it so?
[07:51] <diva> fred2040: type sudo -i in the terminal
[07:51] <fred2040> nice, lets se
[07:51] <fred2040> see
[07:51] <lws> _mrn_ver_ : saying that your hardware is 64-bit, but your software is 32-bit
[07:51] <chong> _mrn_ver_: 64 bit cpu compatible 32 bit
[07:52] <KE1HA> diva:  have you updated your grub config since you've installed ?
[07:52] <diva> no
[07:52] <_mrn_ver_> diva:google "How to restore Grub 2 after reinstalling Windows XP/Vista/Win7"
[07:52] <diva> not at all
[07:52] <scriptwarlock> fred2040: if its a bin then chmod first then sudo
[07:52] <diva> i did
[07:52] <_mrn_ver_> diva : u ll get all over there
[07:52] <diva> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling%20from%20LiveCD
[07:52] <pie_time> can someone please help me with this conky studd
[07:52] <pie_time> stuff
[07:53] <pie_time> its just the weather part i dont get
[07:53] <_mrn_ver_> lws: what  does it stands for? i mean 64 bit hardware and 32 bit software
[07:53] <KE1HA> diva:  sudo grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[07:53] <fred2040> yep, I tried with sudo su -, but I don't know the application name
[07:53] <tlcomtom> cant resume after using nolapic in grub. any suggestions?
[07:53] <fred2040> or where is installed
[07:53] <lws> _mrn_ver_: it means that if you so chose, you could install a 64-bit operating system
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> pie_time:  what weather part? conky can be setup to use some very complex scripts that use lots of differnt parts.
[07:54] <diva> ke1ha: /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?).
[07:54] <lws> which has advantages like a massively larger memory address space (no 4gb restriction), and more fully uses the processor (extra registers, etc.)
[07:54] <_mrn_ver_> chong: thank you a lot for checking out details for my query
[07:54] <scriptwarlock> fred2040: i beleive theres a deb installer available for us ubuntu users
[07:54] <lws> that said; 64-bit has a lot of compatibility headaches
[07:55] <pie_time> Dr_Willis, i dont understand what this guy needs me to do for his conky config weather part to work: http://conkyhardcore.com/screenshots/2009/by-crinos512/
[07:55] <fred2040> scriptwarlock, ty
[07:56] <diva> :< really need help
[07:56] <_mrn_ver_> lws: so can i install 64 bit compatible software in my system
[07:57] <dukehunt1r> origami won't download new work unit. any sugg.?
[07:57] <KE1HA> diva:  sri was in another room, you need to mount the partition wehre grub is installed first. see the link above for directions on how best to do that.
[07:57] <Dr_Willis> pie_time:  seems rather straightforward. all the scripts need to be downloaded and copied to ~/.conky/conkyparts     and the .conkyrc goes in the root of the users home dir
[07:57] <diva> link above ?
[07:57] <diva> who is sri?
[07:58] <|Avi|> hu?
[07:58] <pie_time> Dr_Willis, yes but what about those last two things: conkyforecast and weather.template. they aren't really scripts
[07:58] <|Avi|> i was told this place is madness
[07:58] <KE1HA> diva:  yes, the link you posted, in your case, it looks to be /sda5 is what you need to mount
[07:58] <Dr_Willis> pie_time:  they may need extrta scripts/fonts/parts. You couldjust disable them
[07:59] <pie_time> Dr_Willis, thats the most important part of conky
[07:59] <diva> keiha: so I should type sudo mount /dev/sdXY /mnt/sda5  ???
[07:59] <lws> _mrn_ver_: correct
[07:59] <Dr_Willis> pie_time:  i consider it the most useless part...
[07:59] <johnny_> Am I able to do a manual partitioning with the Alternate Install CD?
[07:59] <dukehunt1r> anyone have any knowledge of origami?
[07:59] <diva> http://pastebin.com/Ym8HEuDm
[07:59] <|Avi|> dukehunt1r: me
[07:59] <pie_time> Dr_Willis, why, you get weather at a glance
[07:59] <Dr_Willis> pie_time:  ive seen some repos (getdeb?) that have conkyforcast in them
[07:59] <lws> _mrn_ver_: more specifically, you can install a 64-bit OS, which in turn lets you use 64-bit software
[07:59] <michael__> I want to configure my wlan to master mode (host ap). I've got an ar9285 card. Does anyone have a working guide to do that?
[07:59] <Dr_Willis> pie_time:  theres dozens of other 'weather applets' out there. I dont need the featur ein conky
[08:00] <KE1HA> diva:  sudo /mount /dev/sda5 /mnt/sda5
[08:00] <lws> _mrn_ver_: though personally, i don't think there's much gain in it
[08:00] <dukehunt1r> |Avi|: origami wont download a work unit after I installed it
[08:00] <Dr_Willis> pie_time:  been using conky for years without weather.. i dont really need it now.
[08:00] <KE1HA> sri sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt/sda5   no / before mount.
[08:00] <diva> but sda 5 is not my swap area?
[08:00] <diva> sda 6 is
[08:00] <lws> michael__: just checking - have you heard any reports of anyone else getting it to work?
[08:00] <|Avi|> download...last i checked it was something you did with square sheets of paper
[08:00] <lws> michael__: i.e. does the chipset/hardware/driver actually support master mode at all?
[08:01] <dukehunt1r> origami the fah client
[08:01] <KE1HA> diva:  not according to this: http://pastebin.com/Ym8HEuDm  /sda6 is the swap
[08:01] <|Avi|> O_o
[08:02] <diva> root@ubuntu:~# sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt/sda5
[08:02] <diva> mount: mount point /mnt/sda5 does not exist
[08:02] <michael__> lws: Not on ubuntu 10.04 seems to be problems allowing iwconfig to set mode master. Though I know people using Asrock ION 330HT (has the same card ar9285) as routers.
[08:02] <lws> michael__: very well, then. :)
[08:02] <ActionParsnip> diva: if you have a root terminal you don't need sudo. Do you log in as root or something?
[08:03] <diva> yes I think I need to be root be fix my grub boot loader
[08:03] <sacarlson> wow this new compiz has things I never dreamed of.   I see this youtube with spinning box screens and  many screens in a screen that you zoom into.  where is the docs for this stuf?
[08:03] <KE1HA> diva:  sudo mkdir /mnt/sda5 && sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt/sda5
[08:03] <diva> nth happen
[08:03] <lws> sacarlson: just install the compiz config settings manager, ccsm
[08:03] <lws> or local equivalent thereof
[08:04] <diva> root@ubuntu:~# sudo mkdir /mnt/sda5 && sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt/sda5
[08:04] <diva> root@ubuntu:~#
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> diva: you will need to make the mount point. It is not mounts job to make the mount point. And please don't log on as root
[08:04] <dukehunt1r> anyone got origami working in 10.04?
[08:04] <lws> sacarlson: ubuntu already ships with compiz enabled, you just need the interface to configure it
[08:04] <lws> sacarlson: then you can have spinning cubes ;)
[08:04] <michael__> lws: Guess I'll just go back to deb (seems easier somehow) ;)
[08:04] <sacarlson> lws: I think I got that but how do I control those fetures when they are installed.  I think I need the book
[08:04] <diva> actionparnip?
[08:04] <KE1HA> diva:  now: sudo grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> diva: no output means it worked, no news is good news :)
[08:04] <diva> LOL
[08:04] <lws> sacarlson: usage information?
[08:05] <KE1HA> ActionParsnip:  well no news is good news :-)
[08:05] <diva> root@ubuntu:~# sudo grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[08:05] <diva> /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for / (is /dev mounted?).
[08:05] <lws> sacarlson: looking at the key bindings in compiz config is usually fairly illuminating
[08:05] <sacarlson> lws: yes usage info.  I could just turn them on but must require some knolege of what keys mouse movments do what
[08:05] <KolleR> hello
[08:06] <_mrn_ver_> lsw: thank you for help
[08:06] <lws> sacarlson: if you want to know how to control the desktop cube, look at the keyboard shortcut settings for the desktop cube plugin
[08:06] <dukehunt1r> anyone know how to make origami work in 10.04?
[08:06] <sacarlson> lws: ok is that keybinding looked at before I click the box to enable the toys
[08:06] <Dr_Willis> !info origami
[08:06] <KE1HA> diva:  Ok, how did you install grub2 ?
[08:06] <lws> sacarlson: most relevant: middle-click and drag on a piece of desktop will rotate the cube
[08:06] <sacarlson> lws: ok that's a good start
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> sacarlson: default is ctrl+alt+drag with mouse or cursor keys
[08:07] <diva> don't know
[08:07] <diva> just install it using ubuntu live usb
[08:07] <KolleR> i am newbie, i am starting on ubuntu,i was using before windows xp,is there a mirc client on ubuntu such as on windows? how can i load my bot
[08:07] <sacarlson> ActionParsnip: ok I'm ready to play watch out
[08:07] <lws> personally, i've given up compiz for XFCE instead. ;)
[08:07] <diva> created using linux usb creator
[08:07] <KE1HA> diva:  ok: sudo apt-get install grub-pc /dev/sda
[08:07] <ActionParsnip> lws: you can use compiz + xfce ;)
[08:07] <lws> was trying to work with CUDA and was getting strange "out of graphics memory" errors
[08:07] <KE1HA> diva:  then update again.
[08:07] <Dr_Willis> KolleR:  try 'xchat' (but xchat-gnome sort of is sucky) :)
[08:08] <lws> "oh! that might be because i have about 20 windows open, and I'm using a compositing window manager"
[08:08] <Dr_Willis> !manual | KolleR
[08:09] <KolleR> Dr_Willis thanx, but can i load my bot on xchat?
[08:09] <lws> ActionParsnip: really i just found that compiz wasn't increasing my productivity, and it makes my (older) computer slightly sluggish
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> lws: I don't use it either. I use openbox mainly with lxde mainly
[08:10] <lws> ActionParsnip: <3 openbox
[08:11] <diva> root@ubuntu:~#  sudo apt-get install grub-pc /dev/sda
[08:11] <diva> Reading package lists... Done
[08:11] <diva> Building dependency tree
[08:11] <diva> Reading state information... Done
[08:11] <diva> E: Couldn't find package
[08:11] <FloodBot3> diva: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:11] <Belgicano> +1 openbox, light and fast..
[08:12] <diva> i guess it is a bad news since there is outputs
[08:12] <diva> LOL
[08:12] <ActionParsnip> diva: don't do that. Use pastebin for multiple lines so you don't scroll the crap out of the channel
[08:12] <diva> sorry about that
[08:12] <lws> i must say, this channel is madness
[08:12] <diva> lol
[08:12] <Dr_Willis> KolleR:  totally depends on what the bot is written in.
[08:13] <ActionParsnip> lws: fun isn't it. Ride the wave!
[08:13] <lws> KolleR: an educated guess is that mIRC bots will only run in mIRC
[08:13] <kiamo> hi, docky failed to install from the software centre and now it's saying I have to repair it before I can install or remove any further software.  How do I repair it?
[08:13] <lws> KolleR: a quick google hasn't told me it's possible
[08:13] <KolleR> Dr_Willis yes i have my bot on a file.txt
[08:13] <Belgicano> whois coyotus
[08:13] <diva> http://paste.ubuntu.com/485314/
[08:14] <Dr_Willis> KolleR:  that means very little reallyu. I find that people that spend a long time learning to script  mIRC.. often realize they should of spent time learning to program in a better language.
[08:14] <ActionParsnip> KolleR: you can run mirc in wine if you REALLY want. I hope your bots don't just spam with the local weather and whatever celine dion song you are listening to. They are truly worthless
[08:14] <diva> KE1HA: http://paste.ubuntu.com/485314/  I am using a live usb?
[08:14] <roach> can any on ehelp with ldap
[08:14] <Dr_Willis> ActionParsnip:  best advice - forget mIRC - check out other irc clients
[08:15] <diva> actionparsnip can you help me a bit please
[08:15] <roach> xchat is pretty good irc
[08:15] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: never used it, never will. I used to use hydrairc
[08:15] <Jordan_U> diva: It sounds like some verry poorly designed windows application is overwriting grub. Right now developers need as much information about these applications as they can get; Would you be willing to help try to get this information?
[08:15] <ActionParsnip> diva: I'm no good with grub. Never had an issue with it.
[08:15] <diva> sure
[08:15] <ActionParsnip> Dr_Willis: also free :)
[08:15] <KE1HA> diva:  yes, no outputs this time is not. I'm not sure why it's not finding the app.
[08:15] <KolleR> ActionParsnip hydrairc on ubuntu? can u load addons?
[08:15] <diva> but what can I help
[08:16] <Dr_Willis> ActionParsnip:  yep. tha twas for KolleR  :)
[08:16] <KE1HA> is not good*
[08:16] <roach> has anyone here setup an ubuntu server
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> KolleR: I don't use addons of any sort
[08:16] <Dr_Willis> KolleR: :  best advice - forget mIRC - check out other irc clients
[08:16] <diva> Jordan_U how can I help
[08:16] <Dr_Willis> KolleR:  go learn the other clients.. dont get obsessed with addons and scripts. learn the irc basics
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> KolleR: I just type and press enter. I don't need bots or any other stuff
[08:16] <diva> Jordan_U plus I can't boot into window either
[08:16] <diva> what should I do
[08:16] <poi77> Hi! I am trying to find all functions with a  _not_ returning type int in my source code. Can anyone think of a regexp to do this?
[08:16] <diva> help
[08:17] <[sleepy]> Sup
[08:17] <Dr_Willis> about the only fancy irc features i use are auto id to nickserv. and perhaps a lot of alias;s for FAQ's in here
[08:17] <KolleR> ActionParsnip ok which irc client on ubuntu is the best like mirc and let me know to learn :)
[08:17] <Dr_Willis> KolleR:  we allready suggested Xchat
[08:18] <diva> even grub-setup -d is not working
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> KolleR: there is no best anything in life dude
[08:18] <[sleepy]> I use xchat :):
[08:18] <Dr_Willis> KolleR:  you will soon learn that mIRC is rather limited in many ways and gimmicy in how it does things
[08:18] <KE1HA> ActionParsnip:  How can we tell apt to use the LiveCD for it's repos to get grub-pc package fer Diva ?
[08:18] <Jordan_U> diva: First you need to get grub re-installed. The absolute easiest way to do this, if you have a blank CD handy, is to boot Ubuntu using Super GRUB2 Disk. If you don't have a blank CD or don't want to burn a CD then I think that the clearest guide for doing it from a liveCD is this one: http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide
[08:19] <madh2orat> Limechat for the iPhone rocks
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> KolleR: i'd say irssi has good script support. What do your scripts actually do?
[08:19] <KolleR> Dr_Willis ok i found irssi, can u tell me if its pretty than xchat?
[08:19] <Dr_Willis> KolleR:  irssi is TEXT only
[08:19] <Dr_Willis> KolleR:  its about as far as mIRC/xchat as you can get.
[08:19] <diva> my alienware m11x does not have a cd drive
[08:19] <roach> can anyone help w/ ubuntu server
[08:19] <Dr_Willis> KolleR:  i perfer weechat for a pure text only irc client
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> KolleR: go look at screenies and judge for yourself rather than have other people tell you what to think
[08:19] <KolleR> ActionParsnip i have learn mirc scripting and i can do what ever i want :)
[08:19] <Dr_Willis> KolleR:  looks dont really matter..
[08:20] <Dr_Willis> KolleR:  you learned mIRC and you could of spent time learning pyton or some other more usefull programing language.
[08:20] <ActionParsnip> KolleR: just don't spam channels with rubbish. Its really annoying
[08:20] <lws> KolleR: learning mIRC scripting is somewhat like learning visual basic
[08:20] <Dr_Willis> lws:  worse even. :)
[08:20] <KolleR> Dr_Willis give me the screenshot site of weechat
[08:20] <lws> KolleR: if you want to write bots, you'd be better of learning how to use Eggdrop
[08:20] <Dr_Willis> KolleR:  its text based.. its lots of lines of text....
[08:21] <Dr_Willis> KolleR:  it has a homepage..
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> KolleR: there are screenies online. You can have them now instead of waiting for Dr_Willis to make or find one
[08:21] <lws> so, tell me, is it against channel rules to tell people to google things?
[08:21] <KE1HA> Jordan_U:  Only problem at the minute is, apt's not finding the repo's, she's mounted on /sda5 where she needs to be, but not finding grub-pc for install.
[08:21] <roach> who knows anything about LDAP w/ ubuntu server???????????????
[08:21] <Jordan_U> diva: Ok, then go with http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide
[08:21] <diva> root@ubuntu:~# sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt
[08:21] <diva> root@ubuntu:~#
[08:21] <valbaca> !google | lws
[08:21] <lws> roach: can you ask a more specific question?
[08:21] <diva> KE1HA: I am not a she
[08:21] <chong> roach: ?
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> diva: have you asked in #grub ?
[08:21] <Jordan_U> KE1HA: The best approach is to use the grub-pc that's on her installed system by chrooting.
[08:21] <lws> valbaca: ack
[08:22] <KolleR> ActionParsnip lol
[08:22] <KE1HA> Diva Whoops, SRI !
[08:22] <ActionParsnip> KolleR: seriously. Makes sense doesn't it...
[08:22] <Jordan_U> s/her/his/ :)
[08:22] <valbaca> !ldap | roach
[08:22] <wyvern> blah
[08:23] <roach> i am having troubles with setup, when i do sudo apt-get install slapd ldap-utils
[08:23] <roach>  
[08:23] <KE1HA> Jordan_U:  I've not installed grub that way before, via chroot
[08:23] <roach> i have been reading thhe guide and i also can add the file it asks for
[08:24] <KE1HA> Jordan_U:  but the prob is, the bootloader isn't installed or not installed properly at least, on /sda5
[08:24] <roach> even the example out of the guidre
[08:24] <roach> guide*
[08:24] <valbaca> roach, what errors do you get when you  sudo apt-get install slapd ldap-utils? (I don't know anything about ldap, but more information might assist others who can help you)
[08:25] <diva> #
[08:25] <diva> If you got a separate /boot, sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/boot. Be carefull, the "/boot" may (can) be /dev/sda1 and the root "/" be /dev/sda2.
[08:25] <michael__> lws: I just got master mode working. ( I deleted all the configs and wrote my own. Running perfectly now with all the options I want to use. )
[08:25] <diva> have no idea what it mean by taht
[08:25] <lws> michael__: nice. ;)
[08:25] <diva> need help
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> KolleR:  the most 'featurefull' and eyecandy laden and overblown irc client ive seen lately is quassle (avail o nubuntu, but its a KDE program, so is a bit of a large install)
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> !info quassle
[08:25] <KolleR> Dr_Willis yes weechat seems the same of irssi
[08:25] <lws> michael__: should probably write up your experiences and document your setup
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> Hmm i spelt it wrong
[08:25] <KE1HA> Jordan_U:  and somethign, beforehand has taken the windows MBR out of it's previous state, Im assuming that happened during the install initially. I wasn't in here at that point.
[08:25] <Dr_Willis> KolleR:  how do you expect differnt text based IRC clients to look....
[08:25] <roach> well it says it will prompt you for passwords and things along with the installation but it dosnt
[08:26] <lws> michael__: for the next poor sod with an ar9825 ;)
[08:26] <Dr_Willis> KolleR:  i much perfer the features in weechat to whats in irssi
[08:26] <michael__> lws: =)
[08:26] <michael__> lws: I'l post it on the forum then
[08:26] <KolleR> Dr_Willis ok let me try
[08:26] <Jordan_U> KE1HA: I think he's running into the problem with braindead windows applications explained here: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/ucgi/~cjwatson/blosxom/2010/08/28#2010-08-28-windows-applications-making-grub2-unbootable
[08:26] <sacarlson>   like that youtube video where I see all the application windows small on the screen then you move into them like zoom and start controling them.  what part of compiz is that?
[08:26] <Akaruz> Hello everyone! Can someone advice me ? :)  which one is better  ? UBUNTU Ultimate Edition 2.7 ? or Ubuntu Desktop Edition 10.04 ??
[08:27] <Guest78979> after upgrading to 10 i'm unable to use the keyboard and mouse at logon
[08:27] <lws> akaruz: 10.04
[08:27] <Guest78979> any sugguestions ?
[08:27] <lws> Akaruz: i'm not sure what 'ubuntu ultimate edition' is, but it doesn't sound like an official release
[08:27] <Dr_Willis> !info quassel
[08:27] <Dr_Willis> There we go. :)
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> lws: its not
[08:27] <KE1HA> Jordan_U:  ouch, well that would certainly be an issue if that's the case.
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> !ultimate > lws
[08:28] <Jordan_U> KE1HA: We're continuing the discussion in #grub since it's lower traffic.
[08:28] <Akaruz> lws thank u for ur advice :) im now using UE 2.7 but its weird little.... some packages is wrong. and little errors.. now im chaning into 10.04 ;) thanks.
[08:29] <diva> is boot equip swap area?
[08:29] <KE1HA> Jordan_U:  ok, brt.
[08:29] <Guest78979> KE1HA >> hey bud i got the 10.0 installed but now my mouse and keyboard is not detecting at main logon...any tips ?
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> Akaruz: the user base is bigger here too and you'll be supported here
[08:29] <olskolirc> my thunderbird crashed with a pop up warning about security and then poof, it left....where can i view that log please?
[08:29] <pie_time> is there a weather applet that will show you the local weather and the forecast
[08:29] <Akaruz> ActionPasnip got it ;) Thanks.
[08:29] <pie_time> without having to click anything
[08:30] <olskolirc> yes pie ill get you that link
[08:30] <ActionParsnip> Akaruz: use tab to complete nicks, dude :)
[08:30] <lws> @ windows software overwriting GRUB: that's a freaking terrible solution to software licensing
[08:30] <olskolirc> yes pie_time ill get you that link
[08:30] <ActionParsnip> pie_time: look into gdesklets
[08:30] <lws> pie_time: there's a gnome panel plugin, Weather, which does what you want
[08:30] <pie_time> gdesklets use up a lot of resources
[08:30] <ActionParsnip> olskolirc: maybe somewhere in $HOME/.mozilla or /var/log
[08:30] <lws> as a bonus, it's very compact
[08:30] <Akaruz> ActionParsnip what u mean ? :))
[08:31]  * ActionParsnip wishes his phone had a tilde character
[08:31] <olskolirc> http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Customizable+Weather+Plasmoid+(CWP)?content=98925&PHPSESSID=1d6c357031b84debe83a5a20d6fdaa99 pie_time
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> Akaruz: type actio then press tab and it finishes the nick
[08:31] <olskolirc> that weather rocks hard
[08:31] <olskolirc> thanks ActionParsnip
[08:32] <Akaruz> ActionParsnip,  wow :D
[08:32] <Akaruz> ActionParsnip,  thanks :)
[08:32] <ActionParsnip> Akaruz: same as in the terminal too
[08:33] <Akaruz> ActionParsnip, so :) im now downloading ubuntu desktop edition 10.04 ;)  and will install it
[08:33] <ActionParsnip> Akaruz: remember to md5sum
[08:36] <olskolirc> /var/log is pretty cool
[08:36] <timbuktu> guys i just upgraded to linux 10.04 from 8.04, i love it :)
[08:36] <mostholy> hello! new linux user, and also a new IRC user here
[08:36] <olskolirc> is that where I would go to find out if I was hacked?  How would I do that?
[08:36] <Dr_Willis_Quasse> pie_time:  you could use the google gadgets for that.. i also seen a few panel applets, or indicator-applet applets that can give weather reports also
[08:36] <mostholy> i'm having a coulple of issues with flash, can anyone help?
[08:36] <scriptwarlock> timbuktu: thats nice..
[08:36] <ActionParsnip> timbuktu: glad you like it. Some report bad times after upgrades. Glad yours was a clean jump
[08:36] <Gnea> mostholy: just state what the problem is, someone will likely jump in and help then
[08:36] <ActionParsnip> mostholy: sup?
[08:37] <mostholy> i can't view any live video feeds. also, i'm having problems seeing things like captchas
[08:37] <timbuktu> yes i was little worried too to upgrade reading the posts but everythings working fine
[08:37] <Gnea> !flash | mostholy
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> mostholy: do other flash things work like google vids etc,
[08:38] <mostholy> actionparsnip: yeah, youtube works
[08:38] <Gnea> mostholy: got an example of a site that doesn't work?
[08:38] <timbuktu> Gparted is a gr8 tool i realized
[08:38] <mostholy> haha take your pic, gnea:  tinychat, stickam, etc
[08:38] <ActionParsnip> mostholy: you sure the video feeds are using flash and not a video stream in avi format etc?
[08:38] <timbuktu> partition magic just screwed up my disk but Gparted was just cool
[08:39] <lws> timbuktu: yeah, gparted > * - certainly beats using fdisk on a command line
[08:39] <Guest78979> can anyone help me with reconfigure keyboard and mouse on 10.04...both freeze at login screen after boot up
[08:39] <illmortal> hey guys, in ubuntu... is it possible to have two sound cards playing sound simultaneously, to give it a surround sound effect?
[08:39] <lws> timbuktu: also helps avoid comical mistakes like formatting the WRONG PARTITION BY MISTAKE. ;) <- that was a fun afternoon.
[08:39] <mostholy> well the adobe flash global settings menu is accessible, so...
[08:39] <Gnea> never used those
[08:39] <maco> illmortal: yes
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> Guest78979: try the boot options i8024.reset i8024.nomux=1 and/or irqpoll
[08:40] <maco> illmortal: though i forget how i set that up...
[08:40] <lws> illmortal: what are you trying to do, precisely?
[08:40] <billy> hi - i'm still looking for a way to stop nautilus creating .trash folders on mp3 players and cameras - it breaks them
[08:40] <lws> maco: i'm pretty sure it involves alsa and a goat sacrifice
[08:40] <timbuktu> yes gr8 s/w
[08:40] <Gnea> mostholy: thankfully, others have :)
[08:40] <maco> lws: nah pulseaudio makes it easy
 where do i put those i'm booting from live CD
[08:41] <lws> maco: bahm you new kids and your fandangled audio frameworks
[08:41] <ActionParsnip> billy: use an audio app like banshee and it may stop it. Or log a bug
[08:41] <mostholy> gnea: come again?
[08:41] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions | Guest78979
[08:41] <maco> illmortal: install padevchooser and paprefs
[08:41] <Gnea> mostholy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1226722
[08:42] <ActionParsnip> Guest78979: try different combinations. Is it a laptop?
[08:42] <maco> illmortal: in paprefs, go to "simultaneous output" tab and enable "add virtual output device for simultaneous output on all local sound cards"
[08:42] <billy> ActionParsnip: the bug was reported years ago and has been ignored effectively - i dont use banshee for file management
[08:42] <mostholy> gnea: oh hey! that reminds me.  i'm having trouble signing up at ubuntu forums
[08:42] <mostholy> when i register, and click to finalize, it doesn't load the new page
[08:42] <Gnea> did you check your email?
[08:42] <mostholy> just tries to download "register.php" which is blank
[08:42] <maco> illmortal: then open pavucontrol and go to "output devices" ... have it set to show "all output devices" and make sure the simultaneous one is unmuted, volume up, etc.
[08:42] <ActionParsnip> billy: could use a different filemanager then maybe
[08:42] <mostholy> yes i checked my mail
[08:43] <maco> illmortal: then when you start playing something, go to "playback" tab and set it to use the simultaneous output device
[08:43] <maco> illmortal: the end
[08:43] <mostholy> gnea: haha i'm not a complete computer noob, i'm just trying to leave windows behind for good
[08:43] <Guest78979> ActionParsnip>> nope desktop..was having problems with 9.10 upgrade someone told me to upgrade to 10 now i'm on 10 and i'm crewed
[08:43] <Gnea> mostholy: don't forget to answer the security question (usually a simple math problem)
[08:43] <billy> ActionParsnip: the whole desktop management is in nautilus if my understanding is correct - i dont want to do a major rewrite of the system
[08:43] <Gnea> mostholy: not assuming that you are, just asking some simple, straight-forward troubleshooting questions :)
[08:44] <ActionParsnip> Guest78979: ok the options aren't much good to you. Can you press ALT+F1 at the login screen and login at command line?
[08:44] <lws> billy: no, only the desktop icon display is nautilus
[08:44] <lws> billy: try 'killall nautilus' to see what I mean
[08:45] <hendaus> Dr_Willis, back,i install weechat from synaptic and after done i do weechat on terminal it says directory not found :(
[08:45] <ActionParsnip> billy: its not. You are just going to install another browser. Its not rewriting anything at all
[08:45] <lws> hendaus: weechat-curses, not weechat
[08:45] <illmortal> I have an onboard sound card + USB speakers. I just bought BOSE speakers which will connect to my onboard sound card, I'd like to play all sounds with the USB speakers + my onboard sound card (the usb speakers have built in sound card).
[08:45] <billy> lws: ok so this must be configurable somewhere because no .trash folders are created on non linux partitions
[08:45] <hendaus> lws,  thanx let me try
[08:45] <illmortal> I'd like to have a surround sound effect.
[08:46] <mostholy> gnea: my security question dealt with the color of an orange
[08:46] <lws> mostholy: :D
[08:46] <Guest78979> ActionParsnip>> yea i'm able to get to the shell or boot from recovery mode
[08:46] <mostholy> live video seems to be the only thing i can't get to work
[08:46] <maco> illmortal: i dont know about the balance part of that for surround sound, but i just explained how to get sound out of both audio devices at one
[08:46] <maco> *once
[08:46] <ActionParsnip> billy: you can have nautilus manage the desktop stuff and manage files with thunar if you like. You can install rox and konqueror too if the fancy takes you
[08:46] <mostholy> other than that, i am truly happy with linux as opposed to windows
[08:46] <illmortal> im sorry, can you send that again maco? My pidgin froze (yay windows)
[08:47] <Guest78979> ActionParsnip>> as long as i'm in shell i'm okay but as soon as gdm starts up...keyboard and mouse freeze complete no num lock nothing
[08:47] <mostholy> i don't want to dual-boot windows and xubuntu (especially since all i have is vista)
[08:47] <hendaus> lws,  how can i connect to ubuntu chan from weechat-cursers
[08:47] <ActionParsnip> Guest78979: then login at the shell and run: startx and the gui will run. You could then try unplugging the keyboard / mouse if they are usb then plugging them back in
[08:47] <maco> illmortal: install padevchooser and paprefs
[08:47] <maco> illmortal: in paprefs, go to "simultaneous output" tab and enable "add virtual output device for simultaneous output on all local sound cards"
[08:47] <maco> illmortal: then open pavucontrol and go to "output devices" ... have it set to show "all output devices" and make sure the simultaneous one is unmuted, volume up, etc.
[08:47] <maco> illmortal: then when you start playing something, go to "playback" tab and set it to use the simultaneous output device
[08:47] <FloodBot3> maco: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:47] <maco> illmortal: the end
[08:48] <Guest78979> ActionParsnip>> okay thanks let me try that and be back in a bit i think it's just a simple detecting issue with gdm...thanks a log
[08:48] <Guest78979> lot*
[08:48] <illmortal> awesome :D
[08:48] <illmortal> thanks maco!
[08:49] <maco> illmortal: i didnt mean padevchooser. darn. i meant pavucontrol
[08:49] <illmortal> haha ok
[08:49] <Gnea> mostholy: give it some time, you'll find that you can do just about everything you could do in windows in ubuntu, although some things will require some modification as to how they're done, and a rare thing or two simply won't be possible
[08:49] <illmortal> and when you mentioned the balance... it might be off by a bit?
[08:49] <sw123> 我是汉字
[08:49] <Gnea> but, they're usually stupid things anyway
[08:50] <lws> hendaus: weechat is just like any other IRC client and uses standard IRC commands like /connect and /join
[08:50] <sw123> 不会英文
[08:50] <lws> hendaus, http://www.weechat.org/files/doc/stable/weechat_quickstart.en.html
[08:50] <mostholy> i know people can view live cam streams with linux, and Cheese verifies that xubuntu can find my camera
[08:50] <Dr_Willis> hendaus:  for weechat and irssi (and ircii) it pays to know the irc fundamentals. :) or at least read the docs at the apps homepages
[08:50] <mostholy> but i don't even care about broadcasting
[08:50] <maco> !cn | sw123
[08:51] <mostholy> other than this one minor hangup, i'm really happy with linux
[08:51] <hendaus> lws,  i try /server irc.freenode.net and it shows message --> irc: unknown option for "server" command
[08:51] <lws> try /connect instead
[08:51] <hendaus> lws,  yes thanx
[08:51] <diogosales> hi everyone
[08:51] <mostholy> my comp runs 100% better, and i don't have to worry about my computer randomly eating its own brain or getting hit with drive-by viruses
[08:51] <hendaus> lws,  other thing how can i open plugins?
[08:52] <lws> hendaus: sorry?
[08:52] <mostholy> which reminds me, some of the other distros i tried out had firewalls preinstalled
[08:52] <mostholy> does xubuntu have one or do i need to install it?
[08:52] <Dr_Willis> hendaus:  trustme - go to the weechat homepage and check out theior docs.. You will miss most of the good features untill you read their docs, :)
[08:52] <lws> hendaus: see the weechat documentation for information on how to extend weechat
[08:52] <Dr_Willis> hendaus:  and they got some must have scripts also to enhance weechat
[08:52] <Dr_Willis> mostholy:  its 'installed' byut theres no default rules..
[08:52] <lws> Dr_Willis: which must-have scripts? because i don't have them ;)
[08:53] <hendaus> Dr_Willis,  lws ok thanx :)
[08:53] <Dr_Willis> lws:  'iset' is a Must have.. :)
[08:53] <Dr_Willis> lws:  i also like the 'shortenurl' script
[08:53] <lws> Dr_Willis: can you describe those in 25 words or less?
[08:53] <mostholy> dr_willis do i need an additional software package to set the rules up? could that be part of my problem with viewing live feeds?
[08:53] <Dr_Willis> lws:  they are also in the repos i recall under weechat-scripts
[08:53] <Dr_Willis> !firewall | mostholy
[08:54] <Dr_Willis> mostholy:  i dont use firewall on my linux box's - i let the router handle it
[08:54] <lws> Dr_Willis: actually using archlinux ;)
[08:54] <Dr_Willis> lws:  then grab the 'weeget' script and it can download the others :)
[08:54] <lws> Dr_Willis: :P
[08:54] <mostholy> dr_willis: you figure i'm safe enough with clamav and a decent linksys router?
[08:54] <Dr_Willis> lws:  weeget is a veyr neat idea. a script package manager. :)
[08:54] <Dr_Willis> mostholy:  why do you even need clamav?
[08:55] <lws> mostholy: in practice, i don't even bother
[08:55] <Dr_Willis> mostholy:  you proberly wouldbe safe enouigh with out the router even
[08:55] <lws> mostholy: any antivirus is for the benefit of the windows computers on your network
[08:55] <Dr_Willis> mostholy:  if you have no services installed.. you are proberly safe from outside attacks.
[08:55] <mostholy> dr_willis: i guess i'm just still paranoid from running windows and never, ever seeming to have enough security
[08:55] <diva> back
[08:55] <Dr_Willis> mostholy:  the biggest danger to a ubuntu box these days i see.. is the end users doing somthing silly.
[08:55] <mostholy> the last virus i had turned my windows box into a zombie
[08:55] <lws> mostholy: and as long as you don't have gaping security holes like anonymous-access file sharing on your computer, you can dispense with the firewall
[08:56] <maco> mostholy: how many brains did it get before you stopped it?
[08:56] <mostholy> maco: it definitely got min
[08:56] <Dr_Willis> mostholy:  windows and linux are radically different in how they do firewalls also. -
[08:56] <mostholy> mine*
[08:57] <mostholy> is there a GUI for setting firewall rules? i'm still not fully comfortable with the command line
[08:57] <Dr_Willis> !firewall | mostholy
[08:57] <lws> mostholy: suffice it to say that linux machines are only threatened by problems originating between the keyboard and chair
[08:57] <maco> mostholy: gufw
[08:58] <maco> lws: not completely true... there've been like 30 viruses in the wild... but yeah... most stuff does require a degree of gullibility
[08:58] <Dr_Willis> ive not even heard of any wild viruses lately
[08:58] <maco> me neither
[08:58] <Dr_Willis> 'viruses gone wile!'
[08:58] <mostholy> so by anonymous-access file sharing, does that include bittorrent?
[08:58] <maco> the last one i heard of was a cross-platform OOo macro virus
[08:58] <Tweaky> hihi. having issues installing my graphics driver. http://pastebin.com/vD1Ripmz
[08:58] <Dr_Willis> and you have the argument.. 'is a virus that affects redhat XXX service ZZZ version q.w.e  actually a threat :)
[08:59] <maco> before that... i dont think thereve been any others in the 4 years ive used linux
[08:59] <lws> mostholy: nah, i'm talking about say, sharing your entire root filesystem over FTP that anyone can log into without a password
[08:59] <maco> meep!
[08:59] <mostholy> lws: heh. i won't be doing that
[08:59] <Dr_Willis> latest news on viruses ive seen point to a surge in 'auto run malware - spreading by usb flash drives' on windows. :)
[08:59] <diogosales> using lucid, wifi keeps disconnecting! did not happened in older ubuntu versions. it happens when traffic is high, even a mere 200~300Kb/s of traffic load to an ftp on my home network causes wlan interface to go down. saw a couple of threads out in the forums that seem to relate to this, the solution being reverting to older ubuntu versions. is this the only option? i don't know how to check the logs and such so i can find out more abou
[08:59] <diogosales> t what could be the problem... can someone help me? does anyone know anything about this issue?
[08:59] <lws> mostholy: then you'll be fine. ;)
[09:00] <mostholy> lws: do you think the default firewal settings could be blocking live video feeds?
[09:00] <maco> Dr_Willis: yes that was just declassified last week... i found it funny to learn that it was classified to start with when the hacker community's been talking about it for years
[09:00] <lws> mostholy: by default, no firewall
[09:00] <mostholy> nice
[09:01] <lws> i think, at least - i'm not actually on ubuntu right now, so i can't check
[09:01] <maco> lws: you're right
[09:02] <mostholy> ok well, thanks for the links and insight.  i'm gonna go try some of the suggested fixes for my video feed viewing issues
[09:02] <lws> i would be checking to see you have the full set of gstreamer codecs instead
[09:02] <mostholy> has anyone else had any problems viewing webcams that use RTMP streams?
[09:02] <lws>  /gone, dinnertime!
[09:02] <Tweaky> never had an issue installing this driver before but im getting an error this time if anyone  has any ideas. http://pastebin.com/vD1Ripmz
[09:02] <mostholy> its the One Damn Thing that i can't seem to do with linux
[09:04] <diogosales> once again: anyone has any problems with the wifi connection under high traffic load on ubuntu 10.4 lucid?
[09:04] <Nk26> Hello, I just installed the latest ubuntu on a old machine I have. Im trying to VNC into the machine from snow leopard and it connects just fine but it does not update.
[09:05] <diogosales> mostholy: i'm guessing you can't do that, AND also can't make everything crash like under windows :p
[09:05] <Nk26> I mean it wont refresh its just stuck on whatever was on the screen to begin with.
[09:05] <mostholy> diogosales: vista handled the everything-crashing part for me, thanks. :P
[09:06] <diogosales> eheh :)
[09:06] <mostholy> i'm happy to leave it behind me, like a bad dream
[09:06] <Dr_Willis> Nk26:  ive noticed that issue befor also.. i tried a normal vnc server (tightvnc) and it would work.
[09:06] <mostholy> if i can just sort out these live video feed issues
[09:06] <Dr_Willis> Nk26:  you may want to check the forums - I never did see a actual fix for the gnome vino vnc not updating issue
[09:07] <Nk26> Do you know if its only a bug on the latest ubuntu?
[09:07] <Dr_Willis> Nk26:  if you set up a X server on os-x (whatever it was called)  You could just ssh -X remotebox and run apps. no vnc needed
[09:07] <thune3> Nk26: sometimes disabling effects (compiz) helps
[09:07] <Dr_Willis> Nk26:  no idea. I dident dig into it every much.
[09:07] <Dr_Willis> Nk26:  yea. if using vnc to get to the 'current desktop' youi will want compiz disabled.
[09:07] <Dr_Willis> I dont even know if i tried that
[09:08] <sadiqpkp> Is anybody here familiar with symbian?
[09:08] <Nk26> ok ill give it a shot. I did try jollyfast vnc just now and same problem
[09:09] <Tweaky> is there a ubuntu 10.10 channel
[09:09] <diva> is ubuntu 10.10 even out yet?
[09:09] <SwedeMike> Tweaky: yes. #ubuntu+1
[09:09] <diva> 10.04?
[09:09] <SwedeMike> diva: no.
[09:09] <SwedeMike> diva: 10.10 is in alpha.
[09:10] <riyaz> i am unable to install any pakages due to an error occured during the installation of linux kernel image 24 any body can help..
[09:10] <JohnFlux> Hey all
[09:11] <JohnFlux> what does ldd look at to find out which libraries to use?
[09:11] <JohnFlux> ldd is showing that one library is pulling in libraries from the wrong directory
[09:11] <JohnFlux> specifically  $HOME/kde   when it shouldn't be
[09:11] <pie_time> could anyone tell me how to get thumbnails and previews in nautilus
[09:11] <riyaz> riyaz@riyaz-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install vim
[09:11] <riyaz> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[09:12] <SwedeMike> JohnFlux: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Program-Library-HOWTO/shared-libraries.html
[09:12] <riyaz> pls any body help
[09:12] <SwedeMike> riyaz: so have you done "sudo dpkg --configure -a" ?
[09:12] <Tweaky> run sudo dpkg --configure -a?
[09:13] <riyaz> swedemike:yes i done but it stuns the system sleeping all processes
[09:13] <SwedeMike> riyaz: then that problems is what you should ask (and give details) about.
[09:13] <JohnFlux> SwedeMike: I looked at that, but it doesn't help
[09:14] <JohnFlux> SwedeMike: I don't have LD_LIBRARY_PATH set, I don't have $HOME/kde  in ld.so.conf
[09:14] <JohnFlux> SwedeMike: It's not mentioned in ld.so.cache, and I reran ldconfig  anyway
[09:14] <SwedeMike> JohnFlux: then perhaps the application itself adds it to the path for itself?
[09:15] <Nk26> Works perfect with compiz disabled :) Thanks everyone
[09:15] <diogosales> about wifi misterious disconnect problems under heavy network load: which system logs should i tail for clues? dmesg?
[09:15] <pie_time> could anyone tell me how to get thumbnails and previews in nautilus
[09:15] <riyaz> swedemike:i just tryed to install updates but in which a linux image gets updated but it doesn't get completed and showed crash report for there the problem continues
[09:15] <JohnFlux> SwedeMike: nah - specifically the installed-from-ubuntu kde programs are trying to link against my $HOME/kde  version
[09:15] <JohnFlux> SwedeMike: and thus crashing
[09:17] <SwedeMike> JohnFlux: http://lists.kde.org/?l=kdevelop&m=97731507412943&w=2 something like that perhaps?
[09:17] <SwedeMike> JohnFlux: perhaps kde is setting the variable somewhere for some programs?
[09:18] <SwedeMike> JohnFlux: I really don't know, just googling wildly.
[09:19] <alp> hi guys I am having problems with Desktop Effects.
[09:20] <alp> when if I use none for desktop effects, many good shortcuts wont work
[09:20] <peace> hello to all
[09:20] <alp> if I use normal I see a little freezes in the screen
[09:20] <riyaz> swedemike:could u get me?
[09:20] <alp> i.e. while maximizing windows , I wait 1 sec, then it does maximizing.
[09:20] <lonejack> Hi, I need advice. I would like to install the ZendDebugger on my machine. What dir choose? /usr/bin/ZendDebugger?
[09:20] <diogosales> and boom goes the dynamite :p wifi down again, a mere 500kb/s over to my personal ftp :/
[09:21] <SwedeMike> riyaz: you're not providing enough details so there is nothing I can suggest.
[09:21] <alp> i.e. my Guake windows appears in 1-2sec when I press F12
[09:21] <diogosales> i've grabbed this from log viewer (log: "debug"): http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/4qCzXU9s
[09:21] <alp> it slows down very much
[09:21] <peace> i am new to ubuntu, can any one tell me can i have different themes on cube
[09:21] <diogosales> can anyone help?
[09:21] <alp> on my first booting, I was using extra visual effects, but they were working very well.
[09:22] <alp> can't I adjust Visual Effects separately?
[09:22] <peace> is there any one to help me out.
[09:22] <riyaz> swedemike:ok, can u tell what info essential..?
[09:22] <kasun> Hello, I was using ssh for while without a problem, But today, I chnaged the user password via ssh, and after that, I keep getting this error. Can anyone give me a solution for this? ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host
[09:24] <diogosales> i've seen this topic on the forums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1487807 but solution seems to be reverting to previous ubuntu version (non-lts :/)
[09:24] <diogosales> power management is off by default on my wlan
[09:24] <diogosales> interface
[09:24] <damian__> hi kazun
[09:24] <damian__> you need to do this steps
[09:24] <damian__> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/warning-remote-host-identification-has-changed-error-and-solution/
[09:24] <JohnFlux> sorry, flaky connection
[09:25] <JohnFlux> when I look in /usr/lib, I see libstreamanalyzer.so.0    and libstreamanalyzer.so.0.7.2
[09:25] <JohnFlux> why is there no libstreamanalyzer.so.0.7  symlink?
[09:25] <JohnFlux> shouldn't such a symlink have been created automatically?   or am I thinking wrongly?
[09:25] <FloodBot3> JohnFlux: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:25] <neohashi> Hello, I got a problem. Apparently special characters (specific to denmark æ,ø,å) makes it nontrivial to copy a CD to iso?! Is this the case? and if so what can I do about it?
[09:25] <alp> guys can't I adjust Visual Effects separately?
[09:25] <diogosales> what do you mean, alp?
[09:26] <pie_time> could anyone tell me how to get thumbnails and previews in nautilus
[09:26] <alp> + I want to increase my swap area. http://i36.tinypic.com/1z3qmo4.jpg look at this SS. how can I move unalloced space next to the swap?
[09:26] <alp> diogosales: there are 3 options for visual effects, none-normal-extra. I want some normal features on my none.
[09:26] <sadiqpkp> Compiz extra effects are very nice to see
[09:27] <alp> sadiqpkp: they are cool. but they started to work very slow on second boot.
[09:27] <diogosales> alp: i think there's some sort of a compiz manager on the repositories; search for it and feedback to us :)
[09:27] <alp> + I want to increase my swap area. http://i36.tinypic.com/1z3qmo4.jpg look at this SS. how can I move unalloced space next to the swap?
[09:27] <alp> diogosales: ok thanks another question
[09:28] <sadiqpkp> i have 1 GB of ram but I don't get slow down
[09:28] <sadiqpkp> !info compiz-extra
[09:29] <diogosales> alp: about the swap can't help, not really sure, sorry
[09:29] <Tweaky> never had an issue installing this driver before but im getting an error this time if anyone  has any ideas. http://pastebin.com/vD1Ripmz
[09:29] <sadiqpkp> !Info compiz-fusion-plugins-extra
[09:30] <eboyjr> Is it possible to install Ubuntu onto a machine hard drive so that when it is first booted, it installs itself the right way onto itself?
[09:31] <madfox> eboyjr what do you want to do o.o?
[09:31] <pie_time> could anyone tell me how to get thumbnails and previews in nautilus
[09:32] <AndroidLoverInSF> any of you guys switched from fedora to ubuntu?
[09:32] <eboyjr> madfox: Install ubuntu onto a disk drive so that when I finally put the disk drive into a computer, it will install Ubuntu. It doesn't have a network card, CD drive or anything.
[09:33] <alp_> guys how can I move that unallocated space next to the swap partition in GParted? http://i36.tinypic.com/1z3qmo4.jpg <-- look here
[09:33] <madfox> eboyjr umm it would already be installed o.O when you install an OS it gets installed on the disk drive, doesnt go anywhere else
[09:34] <eboyjr> madfox: Doesn't Ubuntu need to configure itself for the machine it's installed on?
[09:34] <matthatesspam> I'm having a problem with my wireless network. Ubuntu will recognize other wireless connections, but not mine.
[09:34] <Felix00> hi, i build i beowulf cluster with mpich mpi/lam, but i dunno how to use it properly. what im suppossed to do after launching lamboot? how can i, in example, play a game dealing the job charge between the cluster?
[09:35] <madfox> eboyjr well, I don't believe it should have too bad of hardware issues. Most distros I know of run hardware checks on startup. I don't see why ubuntu would be different
[09:35] <sadiqpkp> who asked for nautilus?
[09:36] <madfox> eboyjr certainly couldnt hurt to try it anyways
[09:36] <KE1HA> Felix00:  Look at Libs, and the Intell gcc compilers for example,s a bit Off-Topic for this channel though.
[09:36] <matthatesspam> Can I get some help?
[09:36] <matthatesspam> I'm having a problem with my wireless network. Ubuntu will recognize other wireless connections, but not mine.
[09:36] <alp_> guys how can I move that unallocated space next to the swap partition in GParted? http://i36.tinypic.com/1z3qmo4.jpg <-- look here
[09:36] <alp_> hey guys how can I move that unallocated space next to the swap partition in GParted? http://i36.tinypic.com/1z3qmo4.jpg <-- look here
[09:36] <sadiqpkp> Yes, of course
[09:36] <alp_> oh sorry for posting twice.
[09:36] <Felix00> KE1HA: Libs?
[09:37] <matthatesspam> I'm having a problem with my wireless network. Ubuntu will recognize other wireless connections, but not mine.
[09:38] <alp_> guys any idea about how can I move that damn unallocated space in GParted? http://i36.tinypic.com/1z3qmo4.jpg  ,
[09:38] <KE1HA> Felix00:  Too much fer this channel. If you want to play around a bit, try some HPL benchmarks: http://www.netlib.org/benchmark/hpl/
[09:38] <eboyjr> madfox: Hrm alright thank you but I was wondering what Ubuntu is doing when it takes so long to boot from a LiveCD before installation
[09:38] <sadiqpkp> do you mean wifi or mobile broadband?
[09:38] <eboyjr> madfox: You know, besides the CD drive speed
[09:39] <madfox> eboyjr thatd be the cd speed
[09:39] <sadiqpkp> I may help you if about mobile
[09:39] <madfox> eboyjr imo a good rule of thumb is a livecd will on avg run a 1/3rd of the speed as it will once installed
[09:40] <eboyjr> madfox: Oh okay cool thank you :)
[09:40] <Dr_Willis> alp_:  creative resizeing of whats next to it? grow, eat it up, shrink it from the other side.
[09:41] <alp_> Dr_Willis: I will move it next to the swap
[09:41] <alp_> and merge with swap
[09:41] <kasun> Hello, When I try to do ssh I gets an error saying "Connection to 192.168.0.2 closed by remote host.
[09:41] <kasun>  Connection to 192.168.0.2 closed." after that, I can't ssh anymore. It says "ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host"
[09:41] <alp_> Dr_Willis: I cant even move sda6
[09:41] <kasun> Please can anybody help?
[09:42] <alp_> Dr_Willis: because sda6 is ubuntu partition and cant unmount it
[09:42] <lws> kasun: "try to ssh?"
[09:42] <lws> please be more specific about what you're trying to SSH to and from
[09:42] <kasun> lws, I was trying "ssh username@ip-address"
[09:42] <madfox> kasun sounds like you don't have a sshd running on the remote host :)
[09:42] <pie_time> COULD ANYONE TELL ME HOW TO GET THUMBNAILS AND PREVIEWS IN NAUTILUS
[09:43] <lws> what are you trying to ssh into?
[09:43] <lws> and i concur with madfox
[09:43] <neohashi> can someone hit me to a IRC channel where people are likely to know about cd copying ,iso and unicode issues? (AFAIK std iso dosn't support unicode)
[09:43] <lws> you need to install openssh-server on the machine you're trying to ssh into, and make sure it's running
[09:43] <jadoe> COULD ANYONE TELL ME HOW TO DISABLE CAPSLOCK? :P
[09:43] <lws> jadoe: get an electric drill and go to town on your keyboard ;)
[09:43] <alp_> jadoe: sudo rm -rf /
[09:43] <Jordan_U> !danger
[09:44] <Gnea> alp_: careful...
[09:44] <alp_> oh ok
[09:44] <Jordan_U> alp_: Please do not post that command, for any reason, in this channel.
[09:44] <lws> i like how there's actually a !danger macro ready to go for that
[09:44] <Gnea> alp_: people have been known to be perma-banned for doing that.
[09:44] <alp_> ouch
[09:44] <Routers> i cant open my broadband connection in ubuntu .. its says error in command line
[09:44] <Gnea> yes, be careful.
[09:44] <pie_time> COULD ANYONE TELL ME HOW TO GET THUMBNAILS AND PREVIEWS IN NAUTILUS
[09:44] <Routers> help me some one
[09:44] <alp_> I was just angry to Gparted.
[09:45] <Dr_Willis> alp_:  i always do such tasks with a live cd.
[09:45] <Gnea> pie_time: no.
[09:45] <sadiqpkp> that command just removes the complete files and folders in / directory
[09:45] <alp_> Dr_Willis: hmm I have one. thanks I'll try.
[09:45] <Gnea> !caps > pie_time
[09:45] <sadiqpkp> Check the preferences of Nautilus
[09:45] <Dr_Willis> pie_time:  theres a setting somewhere in the menus to show/disable them.  theres also settings to show/not show  them over remote shares, or other non local files
[09:45] <kasun> madfox, but it was working ok, it happened suddenly. Does it mean sshd got crashed?
[09:46] <Routers> sadiqpkp : i cant open my broadband connection in ubuntu .. its says error in command line
[09:46] <sadiqpkp> to get audio previews install all the codecs needed
[09:46] <lws> kasun: likely.
[09:46] <lws> or, something strange
[09:46] <Dr_Willis> audio previews can be supriseing. :)
[09:46] <madfox> kasun possibly, that error is a general catch-all for the remote host not allowing a TCP connection on that port
[09:46] <atul> am getting error while installing packages : http://paste.ubuntu.com/485333/
[09:46] <sadiqpkp> hello routers, is it mobile broadband?
[09:46] <Routers> yes
[09:46] <kasun> lws, I have openssh installed, and it was working fine before i got the above error message: "scp Connection to 192.168.0.2 closed by remote host.
[09:46] <kasun> "
[09:46] <Routers> it is
[09:47] <madfox> kasun do you have physical access to the machine?
[09:47] <lws> kasun: walk over to the remote machine and try "ssh localhost"
[09:47] <alp_> why CouchDB comes with Ubuntu?
[09:47] <sadiqpkp> Are you connecting with bluetooth?
[09:47] <Gnea> alp_: I tend to find that it's easier if I write everything down first, how I want it to be partitioned, then go about creating the partitions so that I don't get stuck with unallocated space like that
[09:47] <madfox> kasun cause do what lws said if so :)
[09:47] <xuekan> maybe it's because of the firewall.
[09:47] <Routers> sadiqpkp : no .. its USB stick
[09:47] <Gnea> alp_: because Ubuntu uses Gnome.
[09:47] <alp_> Gnea: I didnt knew swap should be at least 2-3 GB. while partitioning.
[09:47] <sadiqpkp> Wow, k
[09:48] <alp_> Gnea: gnome uses couchdb?
[09:48] <Gnea> alp_: should be double the ram
[09:48] <madfox> alp_ 2x your ram ;)
[09:48] <alp_> shit 6 GB
[09:48] <sadiqpkp> Does your computer identify it?
[09:48] <Gnea> alp_: no, it's bloat, like gnome :)
[09:48] <lws> i dunno, i have 4gb of ram
[09:48] <xuekan> swap should be 2-3G?who says that?
[09:48] <Routers> sadiqpkp : yes .. its shows the exe icon
[09:48] <lws> and i've never gone into swap unless using multiple virtual machines ;)
[09:48] <Routers> sadiqpkp : but when i click it .. its says error command line
[09:48] <madfox> alp_ windows pretty much has a similar less functioning thing of same size, so dont worry bout losing space
[09:48] <Gnea> well, once you get past the 1-2gB of RAM limit, you can safely start scaling ;)
[09:48] <Dr_Willis> xuekan:  if you want to suspene/hibernate = you need swap = to ram i hear
[09:49] <xorwhy> I cannot play an audio disc. The problem occurs when I double-click on "Audio Disc" in Nautilus, it returns error "Unable to mount location. Location is unmountable". I have not yet tried anything to solve this problem.
[09:49] <Routers> sadiqpkp : can i paste it to you the error ?
[09:49] <alp_> Gnea:  madfox: I'm having problems with visual effects. they slow down my desktop engine a lot (started on second boot). If I increase swap, will it be solved?
[09:49] <Dr_Willis> xorwhy:  you mean a normal music cd right?
[09:49] <sadiqpkp> After you plugin the stick, which device is shown in /dev?
[09:49] <Gnea> xorwhy: anything happens if you right-click on it?
[09:49] <xorwhy> Yes, and data DVD's are mountable and functional fully.
[09:49] <lws> alp_: have a look at the system monitor
[09:49] <alp_> madfox: I know, that's similar to pagefile eh?
[09:50] <xorwhy> I have not tested data CD's.
[09:50] <madfox> alp_ its possible if the visual effects store any info in the ram.
[09:50] <Gnea> alp_: maybe, but compiz is a memhog running on top of a memhog
[09:50] <Dr_Willis> xorwhy:  one normally dosent mount audio cds
[09:50] <alp_> lws: which process?
[09:50] <lws> alp_: if you have spare ram still, and it's still slow, then increasing swap isn't going to fix it
[09:50] <lws> alp_: system-wide
[09:50] <sadiqpkp> If the usb stick is huwai you may need to install something to you computer
[09:50] <Dr_Willis> xorwhy:  you start a music player and let it play them - or rip them to mp3 or whatever
[09:50] <Routers> yes its huwai
[09:50] <Routers> what i am supposed to install ?
[09:50] <kasun> madfox, lws in remote machine, "ssh localhost" gave an error saying "could not resolve hostname". So, I tried "ssh ip-address". And it returned the same error of "ssh_exchange_identification ..."
[09:50] <blateh3> how to tell if graphics driver is enabled?
[09:50] <lws> kasun: !!!
[09:51] <lws> kasun: please run "cat /etc/hosts"
[09:51] <Dr_Willis> blateh3:  and whats your video card/chipset?
[09:51] <madfox> kasun that sounds bad
[09:51] <lws> sounds like her machine doesn't know that 'localhost' should point to '127.0.0.1'
[09:51] <lws> which can cause all kinds of fun
[09:51] <pie_time> Dr_Willis, that gave me previews for most items, but im still not getting them for videos
[09:51] <sadiqpkp> then you may have to first install wine, and then open the cd, somewhat icon like that, and install corresponding softs in it
[09:51] <xorwhy> Dr_Willis: Surprising then, that the mount function is issued automagically when an audio CD is inserted. I will try opening with a media player.
[09:51] <lws> pie_time: need codecs to make thumbnails, check all codecs installed
[09:51] <Routers> wine ?
[09:52] <Routers> what cd ?
[09:52] <xorwhy> Best of Baroque
[09:52] <Dr_Willis> pie_time:  i only recall ever seeing just a 'image' for a video file.. and even then not all video files show them. Never figured out why. (file size limit perhaps)
[09:52] <Routers> i dont have a cd .. im installing it by downloading
[09:52] <alp_> Gnea: compiz has 2% cpu and ~15mb of memory. is that a big deal?
[09:52] <Routers> the ubuntu OS
[09:52] <lws> alp_: compiz won't be using any CPU sitting still
[09:52] <kasun> lws, yeah, anyway /etc/hosts has an entry saying "127.0.0.1 localhost"!!
[09:52] <pie_time> Dr_Willis, ive looked at videos of all types and they have codecs installed but im still not seeing images
[09:53] <lws> bring up the CPU/memory graphs and start doing things with compiz
[09:53] <lws> like say, spinning the cube
[09:53] <sadiqpkp> when you plug in the stick some new drives are mounted, isn't it?
[09:53] <xorwhy> Dr_Willis: Thank you, that worked flawlessly.
[09:53] <blateh3> Dr_Willis: its an nvidia card on a laptop, im running from the livecd atm.
[09:53] <alp_> lws: why? does not it do any process?
[09:53] <Routers> yes it is
[09:53] <lws> kasun: here's from my /etc/hosts - 127.0.0.1		localhost.localdomain	localhost demiurge
[09:53] <lws> 'demiurge' is the machine name
[09:54] <sadiqpkp> On of it contain some softwares to be installed
[09:54] <Dr_Willis> blateh3:  run the nvidia-settings tool to see if you are using the nvidia drivers
[09:54] <Dr_Willis> xorwhy:  a live cd will not be using the nvidia drivers. it will be using the opensources novau (or whateve rits called) drivers
[09:54] <deidyomega> test
[09:54] <lws> alp_: dunno, you could always try disabling compiz and seeing if your machine speeds up?
[09:54] <Routers> yes .. i already explored inside the new drives ...but i cant install nothing
[09:54] <lws> alp_: SCIENCE!
[09:54] <Routers> its all error in command line
[09:55] <xorwhy> Dr_Willis: I think you have myself and another's questions/comments combined.
[09:55] <kasun> lws, madfox: ok, it doesn't matter much as I am ok with 127.0.0.1. What should do now to restart the sshd (may be Start!) ?
[09:55] <Routers> let me paste it to u the error sadiqpkp
[09:55] <sadiqpkp> to install you first need to install wine
[09:55] <madfox> kasun it matters -_-
[09:55] <lws> kasun: "sudo /etc/init.d/openssh restart"
[09:55] <Dr_Willis> blateh3:    a live cd will not be using the nvidia drivers. it will be using the opensources novau (or whateve rits called) drivers
[09:55] <sadiqpkp> !info wine
[09:55] <lws> or it might be called sshd on ubuntu
[09:55] <deidyomega> quit
[09:55] <Routers> where to download them?
[09:56] <madfox> kasun the machine uses localhost for alot of things. you will save youreself a lot of headache by fixint that line now
[09:56] <sadiqpkp> Aren't you using ubuntu?
[09:56] <Routers> this is not ubuntu now ..
[09:56] <blateh3> Dr_Willis: yes, but I tried installing the nvidia drivers and restarting X,
[09:56] <Routers> im change the OS
[09:56] <alp_> lws: yeah I do that. the problem is my windows freeze for 1 sec. i.e. when I maximize them on Visual Effects enabled. but not on disabled. on first boot of clean installation , I played with those effects. they were running very well. they started to suck after 2nd boot ... I'm wondering the reason.
[09:56] <sadiqpkp> then?
[09:56] <deidyomega> ls
[09:57] <lws> alp_: revert to default settings and test?
[09:57] <blateh3> Dr_Willis: brb
[09:57] <Routers> sadiqpkp : is that wine is already in the ubuntu OS ?
[09:57] <lws> alp_: performing experiments provides definite answers
[09:57] <Dr_Willis> blateh3:  that proberly wontwork on a live cd
[09:57] <kasun> madfox, I don't know, /etc/hosts has an entry with "127.0.0.1 localhost". don't know what got broke! Anyway, im stuck with a bigger issue now
[09:57] <lws> kasun: that line in hosts is normal
[09:57] <sadiqpkp> No, it's not, you have to install, but it's already present in gOS, etc
[09:58] <madfox> kasun ok then thats good
[09:58] <Routers> okay
[09:58] <alp_> lws: there are 3 settings. none-normal-extra. None=disabled. I am happy with that but I need normal or extra effects. on first boot, I've used Extra effects, It was working very well. However then it started to work very slow. I'm looking for the idea behind this issue.
[09:58] <lws> can you "ping localhost"?
[09:58] <Routers> im downloading it now ..
[09:58] <madfox> kasun but what bigger issue?
[09:58] <Routers> after that i installed them into the ubuntu
[09:58] <Routers> and then whats next ?
[09:58] <sadiqpkp> if you can't install wine you may check alternate way
[09:58] <sadiqpkp> did you install wine?
[09:59] <Routers> im downloading the wine package now ..
[09:59] <xorwhy> Dr_Willis: My problem is solved. Autoplay functions properly within Nautilus as it issues a mount command and then a load media directory within Nautilus command. It does the same however with audio CD's which is strange, since it clearly detects the media type before issuing the erroneous commands.
[09:59] <alp_> Dr_Willis: do we have enough privileges to run gparted on live cd? what is root passwd of livecd?
[09:59] <SteveThing> anyone know a good channel for programming in linux?
[09:59] <SteveThing> specifically C/C++
[09:59] <Routers> sadiqpkp : wine1.2_1.2.orig.tar.gz
[10:00] <Routers> is that it ?
[10:00] <sadiqpkp> The complete wine is about  12 mb, isn't it?
[10:00] <Routers> 21.4 MiB
[10:00] <xorwhy> Wine and (wine + dependencies) are two very different file sizes
[10:01] <sadiqpkp> Before downloading you first check that the drive contain some exe files,
[10:01] <Routers> okay
[10:01] <sadiqpkp> Then download
[10:01] <KE1HA> SteveGriff:  #c++ and #C #python
[10:01] <Routers> and if its dont have?
[10:01] <Routers> cant do it rite ?
[10:01] <KE1HA> SteveThing:  sri, was fer you: #c++ and #C #python
[10:01] <kasun> lws, madfox, its my original problem "can't ssh". I'm trying to apply what you said. will get back here soon
[10:02] <alp_> guys do we have enough privileges to run gparted on live cd? what is root passwd of livecd?
[10:02] <sadiqpkp> if no exe files, you may have to check wvdial, which I have not tested yet
[10:02] <Routers> oh
[10:02] <Routers> ok i`ll brb
[10:02] <madfox> alp_ just sudo it
[10:02] <sadiqpkp> k
[10:03] <alp_> madfox: thx
[10:03] <SteveThing> KE1HA, thanx, already found it :)
[10:04] <sadiqpkp> Hello router
[10:04] <sadiqpkp> are you there
[10:04] <Routers> hello
[10:04] <Routers> yes im here
[10:04] <Routers> what is it
[10:04] <anon> ls
[10:04] <sadiqpkp> did you try to configure new connection in mobile broadband?
[10:05] <Routers> yes i did
[10:05] <Routers> but i dont know what to configure
[10:05] <sadiqpkp> Is there your device listed?
[10:05] <Routers> no its not
[10:05] <Routers> its empty
[10:06] <sadiqpkp> In mobile did you try to add new connection?
[10:06] <sadiqpkp> Mobile settings
[10:07] <Routers> yes
[10:07] <Routers> i`ll already did that
[10:07] <sadiqpkp> K
[10:07] <Routers> but it ask me to put a configure that i dont understand
[10:07] <sadiqpkp> I just mean that did you give a try, that's all
[10:08] <sadiqpkp> what's your current bandwidth?
[10:08] <Routers> 3.6 mb
[10:09] <sadiqpkp> Wow, then why again a  mobile broadband? :)
[10:09] <Routers> lols
[10:09] <Routers> it is a mobile broadband
[10:09] <sadiqpkp> Is there exe files in the drive?
[10:09] <Routers> yes it does
[10:09] <sadiqpkp> did you check?
[10:10] <Jibadeeha> anyone here encrypted the home directory? if so what is the performance like, is there any noticeable degradation?  I am thinking of encrypting my home in case my netbook gets stolen or something
[10:10] <Routers> it has Celcom.exe
[10:10] <Routers> Autorun.exe
[10:10] <Routers> Setup.exe
[10:10] <Routers> all major .exe files
[10:10] <madfox> jibadeeha np here :)
[10:10] <sadiqpkp> K, now download and install wine
[10:10] <madfox> jibadeeha not even with whole disk encryption :D
[10:10] <Rahmat> hello
[10:10] <sadiqpkp> !info wine1.2
[10:10] <Jibadeeha> madfox, do you think a netbook would suffer in terms of performance
[10:11] <madfox> jibadeeha slightly slower startup time but after its unencrypted everythings good
[10:11] <Rahmat> how to install putty on ubuntu
[10:11] <madfox> jibadeeha my netbook runs fine
[10:11] <Dr_Willis> !info putty
[10:11] <Dr_Willis> Rahmat:  but why do you need it?
[10:11] <Jibadeeha> madfox, ah so slightly slow to login when it mounts the encrypted volume or something like that
[10:11] <Jibadeeha> madfox, do you use encrypted swap as well?
[10:12] <Rahmat> connect to ssh shell account
[10:12] <madfox> jibadeeha decrypts it yeah. But its not very noticeable and the slight intial slowdown is worth the risk
[10:12] <sadiqpkp> Just type sudo apt-get install putty in shell
[10:12] <ectospasm> Rahmat: use ssh in gnome-terminal
[10:12] <madfox> jibadeeha whole disk :)
[10:12] <lws> rahmat: just se ssh
[10:12] <trinity> Heyy, is it usual for ubuntu server 10.04 to become unresponsive for a few minutes, then start working again?
[10:12] <madfox> jibadeeha everything on it, not just swap
[10:12] <lws> rahmat: ssh user@hostname
[10:12] <Rahmat> ok
[10:12] <Jibadeeha> madfox, is that using ecryptfs?
[10:12] <Rahmat> thanks :)
[10:12] <madfox> jibadeeha I honestly don't remember o.o it's been awhile
[10:13] <Jibadeeha> madfox, think i am going to do it then, as would hate somebody to have my netbook and do identity theft
[10:13] <madfox> jibadeeha just back it up first incase it screws up and you trash your partitions
[10:13] <GTroy_> Jibadeeha: try prey
[10:13] <GTroy_> sorry if I jumped in
[10:13] <trinity> ls
[10:14] <Jibadeeha> okay thanks madfox - will try it on my spare laptop first
[10:14] <madfox> jibadeeha good idea
[10:15] <timh____> does anyone know the name of the volume control applet, the one that ships with Ubuntu and appears on the top panel of a standard install?
[10:16] <Tweaky> timh: indicator applet
[10:16] <vigge> hai
[10:16] <trinity> hey, i know this isn't a ubuntu question but... it says my prefered username is taken, but the WHOIS info points to my ip... any help?
[10:16] <vigge> how do I login to empathy? It won't let me :/
[10:16] <vigge> it says status is set to offline
[10:17] <vigge> but there is nowhere to change it
[10:17] <sinurge> vigge, wat is the error ms
[10:17] <GTroy_> veggie have you setup keychain?
[10:17] <vigge> error ms?
[10:17] <sinurge> vigge, error ms
[10:17] <sinurge> error msg
[10:17] <vigge> It just says "Status is set to offline"
[10:17] <vigge> oh
[10:17] <Tweaky> i never liked empathy
[10:17] <timh____> Tweaky:  Don't think so.  This one appeared with the chat/mail thingy and deleted by itself.
[10:18] <GTroy_> vigge is your keychain setup?
[10:18] <Tweaky> timh: try adding indicator applet
[10:18] <KE1HA> Jibadeeha:  Just saw your post, You may want to check into dm-crypt as well.
[10:18] <vigge> yeah I think so
[10:18] <timh____> Tweaky: ok
[10:18] <Jibadeeha> thanks KE1HA will look at that
[10:18] <vigge> how do I check?
[10:18] <sinurge> vigge, edit - accounts
[10:18] <GTroy_> vigge is keychain is not unlocked, you can't login to your empathy accounts
[10:19] <KE1HA> Jibadeeha:  and if your really feel the need, it too can encrypt swap
[10:19] <GTroy_> thanks sinurge
[10:19] <bullgard4> sshfs reports: "The authenticity of host 't42 (127.0.1.1)' can't be established." What does this mean?
[10:19] <ectospasm> bullgard4: I dunno, but 127.* is localhost
[10:19] <Jibadeeha> KE1HA, would you recommend secure deleting your hard drive before encrypting or does it take care of that
[10:19] <sinurge> hope that helps
[10:19] <sadiqpkp> K
[10:19] <GTroy_> it's my guess to what's wrong
[10:20] <ectospasm> bullgard4: what are you trying to do?  If it's SSH, then it's because you don't have the host's public key in your known hosts list
[10:20] <bullgard4> ectospasm: That's the problem. The authenticity of the own host needs to be established? This does not make sense to me.
[10:20] <timh____> Tweaky:  that did the trick.  those two appeared by themselves.
[10:21] <sinurge> GTroy_, could be, but then keyring issue would have should up with a pop up saying keyring is wrong i guess. since it hasnt come setting up accounts could  be it
[10:21] <vigge> I disabled it and enabled it and it seems like it works again
[10:21] <Tweaky> timh: yeah thats the indicator applet ^_^
[10:21] <bullgard4> ectospasm: Please re-read. It's sshfs.
[10:21] <trinity> ls
[10:22] <xzil0> can some1 tell me how to remove GCC Stack-Smashing Protector . gcc command -fno-stack-protector is not working :(
[10:22] <ectospasm> bullgard4: yes, if you're trying to connect to your localhost, you need to have your localhost's key in your ~/.ssh/known_hosts file
[10:22] <sadiqpkp> #include<chat.h>
[10:22] <ectospasm> bullgard4: typically it asks you yes or no if you want to accept the key
[10:22] <ectospasm> bullgard4: if this is the first time you're making this connection, you've never seen the key before, so you have to accept it.
[10:23] <bullgard4> ectospasm: It does not make sense to me to establish my own host.
[10:23] <bullgard4> ectospasm: It does not make sense to me to establish the autheticity my own host.
[10:23] <ectospasm> bullgard4: what's the full command you're using?  Are you setting up an sshfs share in /etc/fstab?
[10:23] <KE1HA> Jibadeeha:  I would start fresh with any encryption setup, just to ensure all works as intended and I have a bacup first.
[10:24] <Jibadeeha> KE1HA, okay will do that .. going to be a busy day then :)
[10:24] <xzil0> can some1 tell me how to remove GCC Stack-Smashing Protector . gcc command -fno-stack-protector is not working :(
[10:24] <trinity> Hey, i just try to run xchat from ubuntu server, and it gave me an error, is there anyway to run IRC from ubuntu (which has no gui)
[10:24] <kasun> hello, madfox lws, after sometime of working I found that sshd is already started. When I try to restart it says it's already loaded. any suggestion of what I should do now?
[10:24] <KE1HA> Jibadeeha:  It's better to have to many backups, then not enough :-)
[10:24] <ectospasm> xzil0: probably the wrong channel for that, ask in #gcc
[10:25] <xzil0> ectospasm,  tnx
[10:25] <bullgard4> ectospasm: No. --  The full command is: '~$ sshfs detlef@T42:/home/detlef/ ~/T43sshfs
[10:25] <ectospasm> trinity: look into irssi or weechat (or even bitchX (shudder))
[10:26] <Jibadeeha> KE1HA, i've got a nice rsync script for my backups, so shouldn't take too long though i've not run it in a while tut tut
[10:26]  * trinity slaps anon around a bit with a large trout
[10:26] <ectospasm> bullgard4: OK, you're connecting to T42, yes?  Have you ever connected to T42 via SSH before?
[10:26] <bullgard4> ectospasm: I am going to connect to T43.
[10:27] <bullgard4> ectospasm: I have connected to T43 before using ssh.
[10:27] <KE1HA> Jibadeeha:  yep, same here, rsync + tgz incrementals', works great.
[10:27] <lws> Jibadeeha, KE1HA : bah, rsync
[10:27] <ectospasm> bullgard4: which host are you running the sshfs command from?
[10:27] <lws> real men use git ;)
[10:28] <bullgard4> ectospasm: From T42.
[10:28] <sadiqpkp> hello, if any body needs 2 chat with me please CTCP PING me
[10:28] <sadiqpkp> I'm away
[10:28] <KE1HA> lws:  fare comment :-) git new school, git :-)
[10:28] <ectospasm> bullgard4: well, it looks to me like you're running the command, to connect on a share (/home/detlef) on T42, not T43
[10:28]  * sadiqpkp will be right back
[10:29] <ectospasm> bullgard4: and ~/T43sshfs is a directory on T42, not T43
[10:29] <lws> KE1HA: git works very well when you need to synchronise your home directory across multiple computers; as a bonus, you get redundant backups too ;)
[10:29] <lws> KE1HA: wouldn't use it for ~/Music or ~/Videos, though
[10:30] <ectospasm> bullgard4: you probably want this:  sshfs detlef@T43:/home/detlef/ ~/T43sshfs
[10:30] <ectospasm> bullgard4: the remote host in that command is T43, in the one you provided it's T42
[10:30] <KE1HA> lws:  Yes, i've been reading a bit on it, but not tested anything yet, but certainly need that type of solution here.
[10:30] <lws> ke1ha: would you like me to tell you about how to set it up?
[10:30] <lws> it's non-obvious the first time
[10:31] <KE1HA> lws:  sure if you have a script or somethign to look at, that'd be good.
[10:32] <anon_> ls
[10:34] <anon_> How do i get irc working on an OS without an GUI?  I know it must be possable, since this entire thing looks built for CLI
[10:34] <smittix> anon_: Use IRSSI
[10:34] <bhatta> which is a good dictionary that doesnot require internet connection?
[10:34] <ectospasm> anon_: use irssi or weechat
[10:34] <Tweaky> anon_: why wouldnt you use gui
[10:34] <rockhopper> bhatta, try googling.
[10:35] <ectospasm> bhatta: you can configure the GNOME dictionary app to use a local data store.  I've done it before, but I can't remember how I did so
[10:35] <bhatta> thaks
[10:35] <bhatta> thanks
[10:35] <anon_> hmm
[10:35] <ectospasm> bhatta: here's a hint, set up a dict server on your local machine, and tell GNOME Dictionary to use it instead of the Internet
[10:36] <omega__> ls
[10:36] <Dr_Willis> anon_:  i perer weechat to irssi.
[10:37] <omega__> Sweet, thank you SMITTIX!!!!!
[10:37] <xzil0> does kernel 2.6.32-24 has stack protection???
[10:37] <omega__> ls
[10:37] <bhatta> ectospam: how to setup? i am newbie
[10:37] <omega__> why do you prefer weechat, Dr_Willis?
[10:38] <Dr_Willis> omega__:  better featureset
[10:38] <rockhopper> imho irssi's much more configurable.
[10:38] <Dr_Willis> rockhopper:  I found weechat more configurable then irssi
[10:38] <rockhopper> hm..
[10:38] <Dr_Willis> or at least its scripts and features - were such that i dident need to do a lot of configruing
[10:39] <Dr_Willis> and its 'smart filtering' feature is a godsend
[10:39] <rockhopper> its a matter of personal experiences. so, there's no single best irc client
[10:39] <ectospasm> bhatta: install dictd, configure it how you like (exactly how is left as an exercise for the reader), point GNOME Dictionary applet at the local host, voilà!
[10:39] <sadiqpkp> I couldn't join python channel,
[10:39] <bhatta> ok
[10:39] <Dr_Willis> Ive not noticed irssi having a feature to ignore parts/joins of everyone EXCEPT those that have just recently talked in a channel.
[10:40] <sadiqpkp> Error(+r) you need to be Identified with services
[10:40] <ectospasm> rockhopper: I agree with Dr_Willis.  weechat doesn't require as many plugins to get desired functionality like irssi does.
[10:40] <Dr_Willis> sadiqpkp:  so register you rnick and identify
[10:40] <Dr_Willis> BRB
[10:40] <omega__> One more bit of help, i seem to have a few user names "stuck" in here.... like, anon for example, its showing up in this room, yet im not loged in as it.  And the whois, displayed my info --> compaire /WHOIS anon_ to /WHOIS anon
[10:40] <sadiqpkp> but how to register with launchpad?
[10:41] <bhatta> download code: sudo apt-install XXXX ????
[10:42] <ectospasm> bhatta: aptitude -y install dictd
[10:42] <rockhopper> sadiqpkp, are you registered?
[10:43] <ectospasm> bhatta: sudo !!
[10:43] <bullgard4> ectospasm: This works great! --  Thank you very much for your help.
[10:43] <ectospasm> bullgard4: don't mention it!
[10:43] <bhatta> ectospam: last time I used smth like sudo apt get install ...
[10:43] <anonomous> clear
[10:43] <ectospasm> bhatta: aptitude is a synonym for apt-get
[10:44] <ectospasm> Actually, it's just another TUI frontend for apt
[10:44] <anonomous> is it really?  i though aptitude was different than apt-get??
[10:44] <iatn> Why are my old firewire modules that I blacklisted in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf still being loaded?
[10:44] <lws> anonomous: aptitude is awee bit smarter than apt-get
[10:44] <bhatta> ectospam: ok. it says - couldnt open lock file var/lib.....
[10:44] <ectospasm> anonomous: it's different.  apt-get doesn't do everything.  aptitude does.  If you want to search for a package, you have apt-cache search or aptitude search
[10:45] <lws> anonomous: also, you can just run 'aptitude' with no arguments, and you get a menu-driven interface
[10:45] <ectospasm> aptitude gives me one less command I have to remember
[10:45] <sadiqpkp> no, I'm not
[10:45] <ectospasm> lws: I was about to say that
[10:45] <sadiqpkp> but how to register online without ssh?
[10:45] <bullgard4> ectospasm: One additional question: The directory »Music« in the remote computer shows a symbol with a note emblem. Why is this note emblem not shown in the mounted directory on the local Nautilus?
[10:45] <mfraz74> aptitude seems to handle dependencies better than apt-get
[10:46] <lws> mfraz74: it also uninstalls orphan packages when they are no longer needed
[10:46] <rockhopper> sadiqpkp, do you want to join the python channel on freenode?
[10:46] <lws> which is a nice anti-bloating feature
[10:46] <ectospasm> bullgard4: that's something the local machine (T43) adds in Nautilus.  You can apply that emblem on the directory in Nautilus on T42, but sshfs doesn't transmit that data (it's not in the protocol)
[10:47] <sadiqpkp> Yes, I need
[10:47] <bhatta> ectospam: ok. it says - couldnt open lock file var/lib.....
[10:47] <anonomous> Wow... i am starting to like aptiitude
[10:47] <ectospasm> bhatta: are you starting it with sudo?
[10:47] <ectospasm> bhatta: maybe "sudo service dictd start"
[10:47] <rockhopper> sadiqpkp, Have you registered your nick at freenode?
[10:48] <bullgard4> ectospasm: Why is this detail not in the protocol?
[10:48] <sadiqpkp> no, I haven't, how to register? i don't have any ssh clients
[10:48] <bhatta> no
[10:48] <bhatta> SUDO does!!!
[10:49] <rockhopper> sadiqpkp, if not, type in /msg nickserv register <passwd> <email>
[10:49] <rockhopper> sadiqpkp, you don't need an ssh client to register at  irc networks
[10:49] <ectospasm> bullgard4: SFTP knows nothing of GNOME emblems
[10:50] <bullgard4> ectospasm: I see. Thank you very much for your information.
[10:50] <ectospasm> bullgard4: OpenSSH is meant to work on ALL Unix-based OSes, including Linux.  The emblems you're wondering about are something GNOME adds in its file browser shell (Nautilus)
[10:51] <Chinta> Hi, I just upgraded from Karmic to Lucid, and, performance is unusually low; Disk Usage Analyzer warns me that my home directory is 6 GB big and thus out of space, but GParted says it is 60 GB, and only 15 GB in use. What's going on? I feel totally confused.
[10:52] <jle_> Heyo. Is it possible to install Ubuntu given an existing Ubuntu installation on the same machine without touching CDs or USB drives?
[10:52] <bhatta> ectospam: i downloaded. now what??
[10:52] <ectospasm> bhatta: start the daemon, like I said above (sudo service dictd start)
[10:53] <sadiqpkp> k
[10:53] <sadiqpkp> thanx
[10:54] <black> bosnia
[10:54] <bhatta> ectospam: i downloaded. now what??
[10:54] <rockhopper> ectospasm, If i setup the dictd server, can a bot from outside access that server?
[10:54] <Zhwazi> jle_: I'm not really a Linux person but is there a reason why creating and formatting a partition and doing a "cp -RpP / /destination" (or whatever Linux equivalent is, this would be in FreeBSD) and installing the bootloader wouldn't work?
[10:54] <rockhopper> bhatta, run the daemon
[10:55] <Zhwazi> Or do you need a fresh install?
[10:55] <bhatta> daemon tool?? like the image file executer
[10:55] <rockhopper> no
[10:55] <rockhopper> daemons're like services in windows
[10:55] <rockhopper> type in sudo service dictd start
[10:55] <bhatta> ok rockhopper
[10:56] <rockhopper> bhatta,  type in "sudo service dictd start"
[10:56] <rockhopper> !en | bhatta
[10:56] <ectospasm> rockhopper: only if it listens on 0.0.0.0 or x.y.z.h (being the local IP address).  Limit it ot localhost or 127.0.0.0 and you're fine
[10:56] <ectospasm> bhatta: no, daemontools gets its name from the UNIX daemon (service)
[10:56] <rockhopper> ectospasm, I want to setup dictd on my local machine and my bot's in an external shell!
[10:57] <bhatta> it says 'already running'
[10:57] <jle_> Zhwazi: That went a little over my head :-)
[10:57] <ectospasm> rockhopper: so have it listen on 0.0.0.0, have it connect to your router/firewall on some highnumbered random port, and point your bot at that.
[10:57] <jle_> Zhwazi: I have no qualms about having the new distro alongside the existing, somewhat broken one, if that helps.
[10:58] <ectospasm> rockhopper: although, that's only useful if you want to run your own, nonstandard dicitonary against it
[10:58] <bullgard4> ectospasm: You are referring to OpenSSH. But 'man sshfs' does not mention OpenSSHFS. Rather, it metions that sshfs is based on FUSE and: "On the remote computer the SFTP subsystem of SSH is used."
[10:58] <ectospasm> bullgard4: sshfs is built on FUSE, but it connects to an SSH system via SFTP.  Confused yet?
[10:58] <rockhopper> ectospasm, are there any public dictd servers available?
[10:58] <Frostic> bhatta: daemon tools is an image "mounting" software not an image file executer.
[10:58] <bhatta> I need to install DAEMON...
[10:59] <bullgard4> ectospasm: Your last statement does not confuse me.
[10:59] <ectospasm> rockhopper: dict.org:2628
[10:59] <Zhwazi> jle_: new distro or new OS install?
[10:59] <ectospasm> bullgard4: OK, great!
[10:59] <rockhopper> bhatta, if your dictd's already running, configure your gnome dictionary applet to use the localhost dictd
[10:59] <bullgard4> ectospasm: Once again, let me thank for your help.
[11:00] <jle_> Zhwazi: New OS install, I guess? I have an Ubuntu installation, I'm just looking to see whether I can install a fresh one on top of that without a CD drive or USB drive needed.
[11:00] <ectospasm> bullgard4: no problem
[11:00] <bhatta> rock: how to configure??
[11:00] <ectospasm> bullgard4: sometimes I forget, I've been using some form of Linux since 1997 (-;
[11:00] <Zhwazi> jle_: In theory yes, but it's probably not worth the effort.
[11:01] <Frostic> i thought that ubuntu was unix not linux ;P
[11:01] <dmex> unix is not free ;)
[11:01] <Zhwazi> FreeBSD is :P
[11:01] <bullgard4> Warum überträgt sshfs nicht das Emblem des Symbols des Ordners "Music"?
[11:01] <Zhwazi> And actually I think V7 Unix is free
[11:01] <ectospasm> jle_: you could set up a PXE boot server on the original Ubuntu, and use a VirtualBox or other VM to connect to it and install on the guest
[11:01] <Zhwazi> And Opensolaris is free
[11:01] <Zhwazi> So Unix is in fact free :)
[11:02] <bhatta> ectospam: how to configure gnome applet?
[11:02] <CanadianPenguin> Hey guys, I tried to install Portable Virtualbox ( http://www.vbox.me/ ) using Wine and it's taking up some massive file somewhere and I don't know where it is. I'm down to 3 mb of space and I don't know what to do
[11:02] <jle_> ectospasm: Given a relatively incompetent user, does this fall into "more trouble than it's worth"?
[11:02] <ectospasm> Zhwazi: OpenSolaris is no longer free.  Yes, you can obtain it free of charge, but you can't download nightly snapshots anymore (Thanks, Papa Larry!)
[11:02] <Zhwazi> Esat: Yes it is, the code that was free is still free
[11:02] <CanadianPenguin> I'm running Wubi and I installed it to my host directory but there's some huge file it's taking up on my Ubuntu :c
[11:03] <jle_> I can probably locate a USB drive and work my way through that process, mostly I was checking for the existence of some relatively simple solution.
[11:03] <Esat> Zhwazi, : thanks
[11:03] <CanadianPenguin> Oh crap I'm down to 2 mb now
[11:03] <ectospasm> jle_: USB key is the simplest solution
[11:03] <Zhwazi> And IllumOS forked Opensolaris to maintain a fully open version
[11:03] <Zhwazi> So now IllumOS is Unix :D
[11:03] <Routers> lolz
[11:03] <ectospasm> jle_: just download your ISO, fire up Ubuntu Startup Disk Creator (or whatever it's called nowadays) and go!
[11:03] <Frostic> here is a question for you all... how this question is answered decides if i switch to ubuntu or not
[11:04] <Routers> i still cant open my broadband connection
[11:04] <ectospasm> Frostic: hit us with your best shot!
[11:04] <lws> ...
[11:04] <jle_> ectospasm: Yessir. Thanks for the help, both of you.
[11:04] <CanadianPenguin> Guys, my disk space is going down, I need some help..
[11:04] <ectospasm> CanadianPenguin: don't you mean it's filling up?
[11:04] <ectospasm> :-P
[11:04] <CanadianPenguin> Doesn't matter
[11:04] <CanadianPenguin> Something's still wrong
[11:04] <lws> portable virtualbox?
[11:05] <CanadianPenguin> Yes
[11:05] <lws> for what it's worth, virtualbox virtual hard drives are, by default, 'dynamically expanding'
[11:05] <hjalmar> Hello! I'm having trouble using external hardware (USB memory stick and headhpones) since the 10.04 upgrade of Xubuntu on my acer TravelMate. the memory stick is working and I've checked with dmesg that the computer recognizes the memory stick but that it does not associate it with an sdb device. I'm really a beginner with linux so I really don't know anything. Anybody knows what to do?
[11:05] <CanadianPenguin> You seem to be missing the point here
[11:05] <lws> which means your 20gb virtual disk is initially a 4mb file, and grows as needed
[11:05] <lws> hjalmar: please post the output of sudo fdisk -l
[11:06] <CanadianPenguin> The portable virtualbox app is a Windows program. It legally cannot contain the VirtualBox code so it downloads it somewhere. The .exe has a download button in it. I click it and boom, my hard drive fills up and there seems to be no files anywhere
[11:06] <ectospasm> CanadianPenguin: so, WHY is your disk filling up?  Can you look at disk usage analyzer and see
[11:06] <CanadianPenguin> I looked at the disk usage analyzer and there was nothing different
[11:06] <hjalmar> lws: sure thing
[11:06] <ectospasm> hmmmm
[11:06] <Frostic> i run a windows 2008 server on a home line----- and when ppl download files over the size 500mb it crashes at about half way though.... my question = with ubuntu will these file transfers fail too or is it just the windows server 2008?
[11:06] <dmex> CanadianPenguin: if your on windows try cleaning out your %temp% folder
[11:06] <CanadianPenguin> I'm not on windows
[11:06] <CanadianPenguin> I installed it to my windows root because I'm running wubi
[11:06] <lws> frostic: that's awfully vague. download files with what, using what protocol?
[11:07] <ectospasm> Frostic: that's a loaded question.  Have you isolated the exact cause on the Win2K8 machine?
[11:07] <CanadianPenguin> Windows is unbootable, so that's why I'm running wubi...have been running it for 2 months now. Just happened to have it installed
[11:07] <ectospasm> CanadianPenguin: wait, you're running VirtualBox inside Wubi?  Have you seen Inception?
[11:07] <pksadiq> hi all
[11:07] <hjalmar> Disk /dev/sda: 40,0 GB, 40007761920 byte
[11:07] <hjalmar> 255 huvuden, 63 sektorer/spår, 4864 cylindrar
[11:07] <hjalmar> Enheter = cylindrar av 16065 · 512 = 8225280 byte
[11:07] <hjalmar> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[11:07] <hjalmar> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[11:07] <FloodBot3> hjalmar: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:07] <hjalmar> Diskidentifierare: 0xa0cda0cd
[11:07] <pksadiq> i was sadiqpkp
[11:07] <pksadiq> Hello
[11:07] <Frostic> no i have not it seems to fail when ppl download off my apache website :/
[11:08] <lws> ectospasm: Inception - "So it turns out that if you run a VM in a VM in a VM in a VM, everything is really slow."
[11:08] <CanadianPenguin> ectospasm: windows is unbootable + wanted to try running Gentoo Linux
[11:08] <lws> hjalmar: don't paste blocks of text into the IRC channel - use pastebin
[11:08] <bhatta> how to run gnome dictionary
[11:08] <ectospasm> Frostic: that could be a bug in the build of Apache you're using, could be a bug in the Win2k8 network stack... who knows?
[11:08] <CanadianPenguin> I just need to know where this seemingly fraudulent app downloaded its files to because I don't see them anywhere
[11:08] <hjalmar> lws: I'm sorry, I'm a beginner with IRC as well, I don't really know how to do that.
[11:09] <dmex> CanadianPenguin: your temp folder.
[11:09] <CanadianPenguin> hjalmar: http://pastebin.com/
[11:09] <ectospasm> lws: yeah, I couldn't remember the exact quote
[11:09] <lws> go to pastebin.com
[11:09] <hjalmar> sure
[11:09] <CanadianPenguin> dmex: Temp folder has been cleaned several times and is not taking up any space
[11:09] <lws> paste text in there, click submit, get a link to the text you pasted
[11:09] <lws> paste that link here
[11:09] <kkszysiu> Hey. Any idea how to force resolution for Ubuntu 10.04? As I know I cant use xorg.conf. Im using Nvidia Geforce :> Any ideas?
[11:09] <lws> kkszysiu: nvidia-settings
[11:09] <erUSUL> CanadianPenguin: Aplications>Accesories>Disk use analizer can be of help
[11:09] <Frostic> my internet speed is 20/5 if i used ubuntu would it mostlikly fix the download errors?
[11:10] <lws> Frostic: did you say a 'home line'?
[11:10] <Frostic> yes
[11:10] <pksadiq> ..
[11:10] <ectospasm> Frostic: we cannot guarantee that
[11:10] <CanadianPenguin> erusul: Jesus can't anyone read. Disk usage analyzer didn't show any new files
[11:10] <lws> are you sure it's not dropping out at random times?
[11:10] <dmex> Frostic: It could be the clients, not infact your server.
[11:10] <lws> CanadianPenguin: be nice
[11:10] <Frostic> no its exactly at half the files i tested like 50 times
[11:10] <lws> Frostic: i would suggest that your users find a downloader that can resume downloads
[11:10] <dmex> CanadianPenguin: how big is the hdd?
[11:10] <hjalmar> lws: http://pastebin.com/Gwvg58bZ
[11:11] <lws> wget, downthemall, and others come to mind
[11:11] <ectospasm> Frostic: but you have no insight on what is exactly crashing.  Does Windows blue screen at that point, or what?
[11:11] <bhatta> hey
[11:11] <CanadianPenguin> dmex: 134 gb, wubi was around 5 gb but only had 100 mb left before this
[11:11] <erUSUL> CanadianPenguin: explaining your issue clrearly and in one line helps a lot. unless you aonly came here to rant. bye
[11:11] <lws> hjalmar: i don't see any USB drives there, only your main HDD
[11:11] <CanadianPenguin> erusul: I have explained my problem clearly, it's that nobody seems to have paid any attention to it
[11:11] <Frostic> no the download just dies and says failed
[11:11] <lws> hjalmar: did you have the USB drive plugged in at the time?
[11:12] <hjalmar> lws: yes I did
[11:12] <salad> when I dial a DSL connection I cannot ping my router or other pc's on my network anymore, I think it may be the default route being incorrect, any help?
[11:12] <dmex> CanadianPenguin: you want to know whats talking up that 100mb or was it more?
[11:12] <Frostic> ok his idea of a download manager sounds good to me
[11:12] <lws> okay, hjalmar. Can you try unplugging/replugging the drive, then posting the relevant bits of dmesg?
[11:13] <ectospasm> salad: run "route" by itself
[11:13] <CanadianPenguin> dmex: I want to know where the files it downloaded are stored because disk usage analyzer/manual searching has been useless so far
[11:13] <ectospasm> salad: if the route you want isn't there, use "route add..."
[11:13] <jca1981> Please help me with system recovery, tried to upgrade to lucid via ssh and my connection died, now it wont boot. i can get in via install cd and run dpkg --configure -a but if fails with "could not find image (/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-24-server"
[11:13] <Frostic> thanks for the help with that
[11:13] <hjalmar> lws: http://pastebin.com/S7STduAx
[11:13] <MohammadRRR> Hi , how can i remove language icon from notification area ?
[11:13] <salad> ectospasm, you mean 'route add 10.0.0.2'
[11:13] <salad> that's my router IP
[11:14] <ectospasm> salad: there's more to it than that, like a gateway, or whether it should be the default route, but you get the idea
[11:14] <ectospasm> salad: see the usage of "route --help"
[11:14] <salad> ectospasm, right thanks, I'll look on google for an example
[11:14] <salad> ah
[11:15] <ectospasm> salad: it's amazing how most Linux/UNIX commands are self documenting
[11:15] <hjalmar> lws: As I said I ran tail -f /var/log/messages and I can't see that the memory stick gets associated with a sda or sdb device
[11:15] <ectospasm> salad: and there's always "man route"
[11:15] <ectospasm> salad: but that's supposedly a no-no here
[11:15] <lws> hjalmar, > this is what I see when i plug a USB drive in: http://lws.pastebin.com/CdfNVL2U
[11:15] <lws> hjalmar: so.. are you certain the USB drive works at all?
[11:15] <NaGoSt> hello all
[11:15] <Tweaky> hey everytime i try to reboot it says policykit is not responding. what is that???
[11:16] <salad> ectospasm, yeah, but my brain is toast and I don't have the energy to decipher the regex
[11:16] <MohammadRRR> ?
[11:16] <ectospasm> salad: what regex?
[11:16] <erUSUL> Tweaky: is a daemon used to enforce and grant permissions
[11:16] <hjalmar> lws: yes I am, it works fine at a WinXP system
[11:16] <lws> stand back! I know regular expressions.
[11:16] <CanadianPenguin> 0 bytes left
[11:16] <CanadianPenguin> I guess I'm screwed
[11:16] <salad> ectospasm, well, it looks like regex to me  route [-v] [-FC] {add|del|flush}
[11:16] <ectospasm> salad: those are just command options
[11:16] <NaGoSt> i'm need help. Everybody know address range of kernel data section in memory?
[11:16] <ectospasm> regular expressions are different
[11:17] <lws> hjalmar: truly odd. does any USB device work at all?
[11:17] <salad> meh I should stop speaking and just gt some sleep
[11:17] <CanadianPenguin> All because of Windows Vista's random problems, a fraudulent app, and Ubuntu's unexplained tendency to waste disk space, my computer's shot until I can find a way to back up my files/reinstall
[11:17] <ectospasm> salad: the command goes like this "route add <network> gw <gateway> [default]
[11:17] <ectospasm> salad: or something like that
[11:17] <lws> hjalmar: i'm thinking maybe your udev has gone south
[11:17] <hjalmar> lws: yes, the wireless USB network card works fine
[11:18] <Frostic> CanadianPenguin: wat os are you trying to install? and wat os was on the machine befor?
[11:18] <lws> ^ @ CanadianPenguin: wow, just wow.
[11:18] <dmex> CanadianPenguin: I wouldnt expect to save 100mb
[11:18] <hjalmar> lws: okay. I'm sorry but I don't understand what that means
[11:18] <NaGoSt> i'm want find "init_mm stuct" using search in kernel address space signatures
[11:18] <Tweaky> hm i wonder why its not responding?
[11:19] <NaGoSt> where i may find linux programmists?
[11:19] <lws> hjalmar: as i udnerstand it, udev is the 'hotplugging system', which detects new devices, finds their drivers, and whatever else
[11:19] <dmex> CanadianPenguin: log files, temp files, os updates etc... 100mb would be gone quite quickly
[11:19] <Frostic> she/he left
[11:19] <lws> all: CanadianPenguin is no longer with us
[11:19] <Tecna> how tragic
[11:20] <lws> i'm half convinced s/he came looking for a fight ;)
[11:20] <lws> hjalmar: i'm stumped @ your problem, just suggesting possible causes
[11:20] <Frostic> lol 100mb is like minimum size for like wat windows 95 lol
[11:20] <dmex> damm canadians
[11:20] <dmex> ;p
[11:20] <NaGoSt> heh
[11:20] <rockhopper> lol
[11:20] <hjalmar> lws: I see. That would explain why the headphones also are not working. And I run the wireless network card through ndswrapper so maybe it wouldn't be affected.
[11:21] <lws> hjalmar: try one thing
[11:21] <lws> hjalmar: /etc/init.d/hal restart
[11:21] <lws> hal = 'hardware abstraction layer', another piece of the hotplugging puzzle
[11:21] <hjalmar> lws: ok
[11:22] <Frostic> dont ppl ever burn this stuff to dvd so when all else fails they can reinstall?
[11:22] <ectospasm> sweet.. if I'm chatting in two different channels, I can bounce to one with ALT-Num, and bounce back with ALT-SameNum, or ALT-Num-of-original-channel
[11:23] <hjalmar> lws: I get the message that the file/folder does not exist.
[11:23] <Frostic> and ubuntu cd's are free at many many stores
[11:23] <lws> hjalmar: entirely possible, i'm not on ubuntu so i can't check that it exists in ubuntu ;)
[11:24] <ectospasm> hjalmar: what are you looking for?
[11:24] <hjalmar> lws: I see
[11:24] <Frostic> got my cd ubuntu cd from bestbuy FREE
[11:24] <Frostic> hjalmar's download crashed while doing a install over the net?
[11:25] <hjalmar> ectospasm: I'm having trouble with automatic recognition and mounting of external hardware, like a USB memory stick and headphones
[11:25] <lws> to recapitulate: hjalmar's USB no worky worky
[11:25] <ectospasm> sounds like udev got corrupted
[11:25] <lws> example: plug in a USB disk, no dmesg output, nor does it appear in fdisk -l
[11:25] <hjalmar> that's right
[11:25] <lws> ectospasm: that's what I said ;)
[11:25] <ectospasm> lws: heh
[11:26] <lws> i don't know how to FIX that, though
[11:26] <ectospasm> that's a nasty one to fix
[11:26] <lws> feel free to take over, ectospasm
[11:26] <ectospasm> If you can mount it in recovery, backup what you need, wipe and start over
[11:26] <lws> ... ugh.
[11:26] <ectospasm> hjalmar: ^^^
[11:26] <ectospasm> lws: yeah, not a desirable solution, but what else is there?
[11:27] <lws> we linux folks aren't supposed to resort to wipe+reinstall
[11:27] <lws> that's for our windows-using friends, dammnit ;)
[11:27] <Frostic> i know how to fix your problem reinstall looooooooool :P
[11:27] <hjalmar> ectospasm: you mean the usb device or my whole system?
[11:27] <ectospasm> lws: you would be wise to rethink that.
[11:28] <lws> hjalmar: your system
[11:28] <hjalmar> aha
[11:28] <ectospasm> hjalmar: probably the whole system, if you can boot from a USB key and backup your files, that would be best
[11:28] <ectospasm> hjalmar: it ain't pretty, that's for sure
[11:28] <akaruz> lws,  Thank u again for advice :) I've installed Ubuntu Desktop Edition 10.04 :) Works Fine.
[11:28] <Frostic> hjalmar wipe hard drive, insert cd/dvd reinstall start over :D
[11:28] <lws> akaruz: no problems
[11:29] <pherenhight> help me
[11:29] <ectospasm> hjalmar: next time, run commands like that in screen, so if you get disconnected you're not left in an indeterminate state
[11:29] <Frostic> pherenhight:state your question
[11:29] <hjalmar> ectospasm: commands like what? Iäm not really following you.
[11:29] <lws> hjalmar: for commands like apt-get, etc that must either complete fully, or not at all
[11:30] <hjalmar> lws: So, like, updates should be run from a terminal is what you're saying?
[11:30] <lws> hjalmar: example: if you're upgrading your system, you don't want half the packages to be upgraded and the other half not
[11:30] <ibnarrashid> e
[11:30] <ectospasm> hjalmar: are you familiar with screen?  It's a terminal multiplexer, kind of like giving your command line interfaces several "virtual" windows or sessions which you can disconnect from and reconnect later
[11:30] <ibnarrashid> sorry a typo
[11:30] <pherenhight> I am trying to install and rpm file, i have alien installed, its not working
[11:31] <pherenhight> i try converting to deb, its converts to  folder instead???
[11:31] <hjalmar> ectospasm: I'm not familiar with screen but now I know
[11:31] <lws> hjalmar: screen is a pretty cool guy
[11:31] <ectospasm> hjalmar: in your case, you could have logged into this now-broken machine, run screen, and run apt from within the screen session.  Then, if you disconnected it wouldn't have mattered, you could login from anywhere else in the world and reattached to your session
[11:31] <lws> hjalmar: handy for keeping your IRC client in, so that you can get your IRC session from anywhere
[11:32] <ectospasm> lws: I use it for that purpose personally, but I also use it at work, A LOT!
[11:32] <lws> ectospasm: did hjalmar actually have an interrupted update operation?
[11:32] <hjalmar> lws: actually, no
[11:32] <chilli0> How can I get the hexdump for my mouse that's on my laptop? My usb mouse shows up under /dev/hidraw1 , but there is no other hidraw* ... Thanks.
[11:32] <Frostic> some one help pherenhight i have no idea wat that meant
[11:32] <lws> ectospasm: i didn't read his problem that way - i read it as 'upgraded to 10.04 and now USB is broke'
[11:32] <Terrr> hello, I had some problems configuring pppd + pptp + radiusd, pppd don't send anything on 1812 port. Here some logs  http://pastebin.com/p7W1G7VS.
[11:33] <hjalmar> lws: that's exactly what I meant
[11:33] <pherenhight> Ok just tell me, step by step how to install a RPM file? Your way then? Frostic
[11:33] <lws> anyway, hjalmar: verdict - wipe, reinstall, sorry. :(
[11:33] <NaGoSt> pizdez
[11:33] <Herix> So, I have this list of users to choose from on starting a session. Is there a way to hide the technical users (those who exist for the sole purpose to run a daemon and the like) ?
[11:34] <lws> pherenhight: why are you trying to install from RPM?
[11:34] <hjalmar> lws: I see. Thank you for your help. Is this a final verdict or do you think I could benefit from posting in the Ubuntu forums?
[11:34] <lws> hjalmar: go ahead and try
[11:34] <lws> mention that we think it's udev that's gone down the plug
[11:34] <pherenhight> Well i have and option, RPm or tar.gz, i dont know how to install from either, can you assit me?
[11:34] <ectospasm> Herix: I can't remember, but I think that's based on who has a home directory
[11:34] <lws> but in the time it would take you to get a response back, you could probably have reinstalled already
[11:35] <lws> pherenhight: which package? give me a link to the software's homepage
[11:35] <iceroot> pherenhight: dont use rpm ob ubuntu
[11:35] <ectospasm> iceroot: you can with alien
[11:35] <iceroot> ectospasm: as i said, dont use rpm with ubuntu
[11:35] <pherenhight> Cant alien convert rpm => deb
[11:35] <hjalmar> lws: I will do that then and give it a week or so to see if anyone has any ideas. Thanks again for your help, it was much appreciated! =)
[11:35] <lws> all: yes, you *can* with alien... but .tar.gz source is nearly always a better option
[11:35] <ectospasm> or (heh) use apt to install rpm, and go at it!
[11:35] <iceroot> !alien
[11:35] <lws> hjalmar: no worries
[11:35] <Herix> ectoplasm : thxx, I'l check that
[11:35] <pherenhight> oh ok
[11:36] <ectospasm> just giving enough rope
[11:36] <lws> ectospasm: you're a bad man. ;)
[11:36] <lws> more seriously, don't use rpm: download the source code (.tar.gz) and compile it
[11:36] <pherenhight> i am trying to install VMwareTools-7.8.4-126130.tar.gz
[11:36] <lws> usually it's as easy as: ./configure, make, make install
[11:37] <pherenhight> i am running a ubuntu inside windows i want the VmWare tools
[11:37] <lws> pherenhight: i need a link to the page that download appears on
[11:37] <lws> the filename is not sufficient
[11:37] <pherenhight> cant u use apt-get VMwareTools-7.8.4-126130.tar.gz
[11:38] <iceroot> pherenhight: no
[11:38] <lws> pherenhight, no, because VMWare is not free software
[11:38] <pherenhight> oh
[11:38]  * nogo zzzzzz
[11:38] <lws> apt-get can only access software that exists in the ubuntu repositories
[11:38] <pherenhight> well i dotn have the download page, VMware mounts a cdrom and the files are in there???
[11:39] <lws> pherenhight, http://linux.rikseisveld.nl/?p=47
[11:39] <Terrr> rigth click on vmware console there migth be Install VMware Tools.
[11:39] <lws> ^ instructions for exactly your situation, found by googling "Installing VMware tools in Linux"
[11:40] <akaruz> lws,  how to update any Package manually?
[11:40] <pherenhight> thanks, shell, as in the terminal???
[11:40] <lws> akaruz: i don't understand your question
[11:40] <lws> pherenhight: yes, terminal==shell
[11:40] <ectospasm> lws: not always.  GNOME and KDE provide GUI shells (-;
[11:40] <lws> akaruz: what do you mean by 'update package manually'? what are you trying to do?
[11:40] <akaruz> lws,  I have downloaded Skype for ubuntu .deb format so how can i install it ? from terminal
[11:40] <lws> ectospasm: stop being pedantic
[11:40] <lws> ;)
[11:41] <ectospasm> akaruz: dpkg -i <deb file>
[11:41] <lws> akaruz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype
[11:41] <pherenhight> i also wanted know, is it possible for me to get the google chrome os theme for ubuntu????
[11:41] <pherenhight> i have ubuntu 8.10
[11:41] <akaruz> ectospasm, thanks.
[11:41] <akaruz> lws, thanks
[11:42] <lws> pherenhight: no idea, but if i wanted to find out, i would google "ubuntu chrome os theme"
[11:42] <pherenhight> alright thank you
[11:43] <lws> i might go make a pot of tea. :D
[11:44] <jca1981> Please, i need help with getting my system to boot, using Grub, tried for 3 days now, need help!
[11:45] <ikonia> !grub2 > jca1981
[11:45] <AprilHare> hello. i upgraded windows on my dual boot setup and have lost grub2. how do i restore grub2?
[11:45] <ghostlines> is it possible to force different apps to connect to the internet via different interfaces
[11:45] <ikonia> !grub2 > AprilHare
[11:46] <ikonia> ghostlines: that depends on the application, and your machines setup
[11:46] <Milp_main> Whats the package for that touchscreen optimized ubuntu interface on the arm port called?
[11:46] <AprilHare> you can't have a problem with something that isn't installed ikonia :)
[11:46] <ikonia> AprilHare: grub is installed, it's just had the mbr overwritten
[11:46] <AprilHare> ok
[11:47] <ghostlines> ikonia, ahh k thanks the app in question is rtorrent, I'll see if i can find info on that
[11:47] <jle_> So, the network manager applet does not start for me when doing a normal boot, the only way to get networking is to drop to the networked root shell via safe mode. Is there any way for me to do the equivalent from inside a normal boot?
[11:48] <jca1981> im not sure why my system wont boot, i am taken to a grub2 console when i boot my system. i have tried running update-grub!
[11:48] <lws> jle_: sudo /etc/init.d/network-manager restart; nm-applet
[11:48] <lws> note: exact names may vary on ubuntu
[11:49] <jle_> lws: Does the nm-applet also handle network connections themselves? The real problem is the lack of any kind of networking, applet or not.
[11:49] <jle_> Or is it just a graphical frontend?
[11:50] <discozohan> Hello. I created raid1, so there are devices md0 for swap and md1 for system. But mdadm shows, that md0 is not active and top shows, that no swap memory available
[11:50] <discozohan> whats the problem ?
[11:51] <ikonia> discozohan: try to start the arrary
[11:51] <pherenhight> hello guys if I want to run anything in the shell is it always this command "sudo ./filename"
[11:52] <lws> jle_: the network-manager daemon handles that
[11:52] <ikonia> pherenhight: no, it depends,
[11:52] <LTAPaul> no
[11:52] <LTAPaul> sudo adds admin rights
[11:52] <jle_> lws: Then I have a problem, because network-manager is started at that point, I think.
[11:52] <LTAPaul> you do not need sudo unless the program requires that level of access
[11:52] <lws> jle_: it might be failing? check logs
[11:52] <Herix> --- Homeless abstract users --- Trimming my users list : how do I specify that those abstract users (like the one running the mysql process for instance) don't need and should'nt have a home ?
[11:52] <pherenhight> why do i always need to type sudo if i am logged in as admin???
[11:52] <discozohan> ikonia: mm, do you have an idea how to start it ?
[11:52] <lws> pherenhight: probably because you don't
[11:53] <LTAPaul> You are not usually logged in as admin.
[11:53] <ikonia> Herix: what are you telkaing about homless abstract user, please ask your question clearly
[11:53] <lws> pherenhight: note: logging in as root for routine tasks is Bad Karma
[11:53] <Herix> pherenhight : depends, who is this user named "admin" ?
[11:53] <ikonia> pherenhight: what command are you trying to use that's not workng without sudo
[11:53] <ikonia> Herix: that's a system account
[11:54] <pherenhight> just find it annoying typing in password everytime
[11:54] <LTAPaul> you usually don't need to
[11:54] <amikrop> Hello, how do I hide/remove the keyboard layout indicator from my notification area?
[11:54] <LTAPaul> what program requires it?
[11:54] <pherenhight> to who are you asking?
[11:54] <ikonia> pherenhight: you
[11:55] <ikonia> pherenhight: what is the name of the program you are trying to use that won't work without sudo
[11:55] <LTAPaul> pherenhight: I am talking to you
[11:55] <pherenhight> oh, well it is this program sudo ./vmware-install.pl
[11:55] <LTAPaul> yes, you will need to be sudo for that
[11:55] <pherenhight> what is a pl file?
[11:55] <ikonia> pherenhight: ok - that's because you're installing system libraries with that script, it will require root privileges
[11:55] <ikonia> pherenhight: perl script
[11:55] <LTAPaul> how often are you running that where it is an inconvienience
[11:55] <pherenhight> can i edit it if i wanted?
[11:56] <Herix> ikonia : Trimming my users list : how do I specify that those abstract users (like the one running the mysql process for instance) don't need and should'nt have a home directory ?
[11:56] <ikonia> pherenhight: if you are a good perl scripter yes
[11:56] <pherenhight> ubuntu is so awesome, i can edit everrything
[11:56] <lws> PERL! the only language that looks the same before and after MD5
[11:56] <copynpaste> Hi, I have two hard drives, both the same size (both claim to be 120gb). Is it possible to copy and paste everything from one to the other? I want to include file systems and partitions. I figured this would be quicker than reinstalling ubuntu 10.04 on the new hdd then copying all my settings by hand.
[11:56] <ikonia> Herix: you go through your user account list, work out what users are needed/not needed and then remove them
[11:56] <amikrop> How do I remove the keyboard layout indicator from my system tray?
[11:56] <ikonia> pherenhight: that's no different than any other operating system
[11:56] <trollboy> what's the plugin to make pidgin live in the infopanel next to the clock?
[11:56] <lws> copynpaste: see the 'dd' tool
[11:56] <pherenhight> so how would i go about modding the core files of ubuntu???
[11:56] <LTAPaul> pherenhight: you can edit everything in any OS...don't know what you are meaning
[11:57] <ikonia> pherenhight: there is no such thing as "the core OS files"
[11:57] <pherenhight> not windows
[11:57] <ikonia> pherenhight: what do you want to change
[11:57] <lws> pherenhight: ... your question does not make sense.
[11:57] <blet> how to join #bitlbee?
[11:57] <copynpaste> cool, does the dd tool have a wiki/manual?
[11:57] <ikonia> pherenhight: you can change anything you want in windows that you can change in windows
[11:57] <ikonia> in ubuntu
[11:57] <lws> copynpaste: you may be better off to google a phrase like "clone hard drives linux"
[11:57] <ikonia> copynpaste: it has a man page
[11:57] <ikonia> copynpaste: man dd
[11:57] <FloodBot3> ikonia: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:57] <copynpaste> thankyou!
[11:57] <lws> copynpaste: the results you find will give guides on how to clone HD's using dd
[11:58] <pherenhight> u just said that one can edit any OS, how would i edit windows? I cant its not open source?
[11:58] <lws> pherenhight: if you're suggesting you want to hack on the linux kernel, then go right ahead and download the linux kernel source from git
[11:58] <ikonia> pherenhight: it's compiled, as is ubuntu, you can't edit binaries in eithers. Both are driven by config files to make changes
[11:58] <LTAPaul> pherenhight: I meant that you can edit any program in any OS, you are talking now about something different.
[11:58] <jle_> lws: Uh, thanks. I fixed it somewhat by starting nm-applet and enabling networking.
[11:58] <copynpaste> lws: thanks, I'm off to try it now
[11:58] <lws> jle_: i am genius!
[11:58] <lws> jle: ;)
[11:59] <Herix> ikonia : those users are needed, their /home/directory/ are not needed, since those users are never going to connect to an interactive session. See ?
[11:59] <jle_> No idea why it was turned off in the first place - wireless is still disabled though.
[11:59] <pherenhight> Its like changing the pipelines and max connection in firefox, you cannot do that in Internet explorer
[11:59] <lws> jle_: you owe me one (1) kudo.
[11:59] <lws> jle_: ifconfig wlan0 up?
[11:59] <LTAPaul> pherenhight: you are confused...
[11:59] <ikonia> Herix: if the users have a home directory - it's needed
[11:59] <soreau> I'm getting "The following packages have been kept back:" for all the packages I want upgraded by a ppa. Why is this? The repo is installed but it wont upgrade packages from it
[11:59] <Routers> some body help me .. i finally manage to connect my mobile broadband .. but when i browse the firefox .. its doesnt work .. what the prob ?
[11:59] <pherenhight> ok anyway let me see if this script runs in the shell
[11:59] <LTAPaul> soreau: are their dependancies that are not being
[12:00] <ikonia> Routers: that suggests you're not connected
[12:00] <LTAPaul> met
[12:00] <Routers> ikonia : but the connection is established ..
[12:00] <Routers> its shows their dns all
[12:00] <soreau> LTAPaul: No, it just says it's holding them back and doesn't give a reason
[12:01] <LTAPaul> soreau: I am guessing that is what the
[12:01] <LTAPaul> issue is...where are these packages coming from?
[12:01] <ikonia> Routers: make sure firefox is not in offlines mode
[12:01] <jle_> lws: ifconfig shows me eth0 and lo up.
[12:01] <ikonia> Routers: try pinging google.com for a network test
[12:01] <Routers> yes it can
[12:01] <akssps011_> How can I get latest version of libc6 ?
[12:01] <ikonia> akssps011_: why do you need it
[12:01] <amikrop> How do I remove the keyboard layout indicator from my system tray?
[12:02] <ikonia> akssps011_: changing libc is a massive job and will potentially break your whole OS
[12:02] <akssps011_> ikonia: I was installing build-essential on an ubuntu machine without internet connection
[12:02] <soreau> LTAPaul: xorg-edgers
[12:02] <Herix> ikonia : never mind
[12:03] <LTAPaul> not sure how to help you there...have you tried contacting the person that runs the repository?
[12:03] <eriksson25> Anyone that could help me, updatet from 9.04 to 9.10 and then no boot. Its get stuck on initramfs. The problem is that it wount finde the root partition.
[12:03] <ikonia> akssps011_: so how is that anything to do with getting the latest libc version ?
[12:03] <soreau> LTAPaul: for some reason it didn't app itself to sources.list
[12:03] <KE1HA> akssps011_:  did you already install build-essential ?
[12:03] <mahdi_> hi
[12:03] <soreau> add*
[12:03] <LTAPaul> eriksson: back up your home folder and do a fresh intall
[12:04] <akssps011_> ikonia: i created a apton cd, but it requires libc6-dev(on the cd) which depends on libc6( - 2.11.1-0ubuntu7.2) but 2.11.1-0ubuntu7 is to be installed
[12:04] <mahdi_> i install sun-jdk from package manager
[12:04] <trinity> ls
[12:04] <mahdi_> now i cant fine path it
[12:04] <eriksson25> LTAPaul, no way around it? It seems that its not reading my fstab corectly. Shuld be able to work around that.
[12:04] <trinity> ls
[12:04] <ikonia> akssps011_: ok, so you want the latest availble from ubuntu, the issue is, you're apt-oncd machine has a later version than your none-internet machine, so you need to make sure your two machines are in sync
[12:05] <triunity> clear
[12:05] <triunity> test
[12:05] <Leroy> lol triunity
[12:05] <akssps011_> ikonia: how ?
[12:05] <Leroy> :)
[12:05] <triunity> hmm?
[12:05] <ximal> I know this is a realllly stupid question . But .. Is there some sort of font pack that has to do with hdmi out etc ? Like a font pack specifically for HD tv's or LCD screens ?
[12:05] <eriksson25> I could use a older karnell and got to maintenance shell.
[12:05] <triunity> i just got here and people are already laughting at me....
[12:05] <ikonia> akssps011_: either a.) not update the apt-oncd machine beyond your other machine b.) update your other machine to be current
[12:06] <Leroy> cause your throwing linux commands into a chat room triunity
[12:06] <Leroy> but it happens :)
[12:06] <nogo> lol
[12:06] <ikonia> triunity: this channel is for ubuntu support discussion, please feel free to ask any questions on that topic, no-one will laugh
[12:06] <triunity> pshh...
[12:06] <triunity> all commands are linux commands right? (just kidding)
[12:07] <soreau> LTAPaul: Well you were right.. I needed to enable all ubuntu repos and now it works
[12:07] <LTAPaul> soreau: glad I could help
[12:07] <akssps011_> ikonia: I have 10.04 on both the machines..and the one without internet connection has never been connected to internet, so how could it have newer version than the machine which has internet connection
[12:07] <akssps011_> ?
[12:07] <amikrop> How do I remove the keyboard layout indicator from my system tray?
[12:07] <ikonia> akssps011_: no, the apt-oncd machine has a newer version
[12:07] <soreau> LTAPaul: Oh actually it just did updates for only those repos and still holding back xorg-edgers packages
[12:07] <soreau> LTAPaul: Oh well I'll figure it out
[12:07] <soreau> :P
[12:07] <LTAPaul> amikrop: I have never seen that appear before, I wish that I could help.
[12:08] <akssps011_> ikonia: any way to get libc6 to aptoncd ?
[12:08] <amikrop> LTAPaul: I have two keyboard layouts, and an indicator appeared automatically since I added the 2nd layout, in my system tray and there is no option for removing it.
[12:08] <eriksson25> Anyone, how can I backup the old fstab and generate a new one for root disks? all from maintenance shell.
[12:08] <akssps011_> ikonia: I don't see in the package list there
[12:09] <triunity> Hey, i got a question, i am connected to a ubuntu 10.04 server, but everyone in a while, i lose connection for about 30 seconds.  The webserver/sshd/nessusd all stop responding, then about 30 seconds later, everything comes back online, anyone know what may be causing the computer to lag out?
[12:09] <Fudge> anyway know how to make gdm use the f12 key rather than f7 default
[12:09] <triunity> everyonce*
[12:09] <nogo> limits
[12:09] <thune3> amikrop: right click and remove from panel isn't an option?
[12:09] <amikrop> thune3: no
[12:09] <eriksson25> It says read only system when trying to cp the file.
[12:10] <akssps011_> ikonia: I mean the aptoncd doesn't have libv6 in it
[12:10] <akssps011_> ikonia: Is there a way to restore ubuntu to a state when it was first installed ?
[12:10] <ikonia> akssps011_: I understand what you're saying
[12:10] <ikonia> akssps011_: no
[12:11] <om26er> btrfs snapshot in future?
[12:11] <thune3> amikrop: the only thing i know like that is the "keyboard indicator" applet, but you seem to have something else. is any more information you can gather about where it is coming from
[12:11] <thune3> amikrop: click on it or right clicking and getting information maybe
[12:12] <akssps011_> ikonia: ok, so is there a solution for adding latest libc6 to aptoncd or install it to the new machine ? (just reverting back to original question :) )
[12:12] <_mrn_ver_> ikonia,  but with find -mtime command we can find the change in directories regarding tp files created or deleted after some changes
[12:12] <triunity> ls
[12:12] <ikonia> akssps011_: I don't know why libc is not showing in the list, it's just a package like everything else
[12:12] <ikonia> _mrn_ver_: so ?
[12:12] <_mrn_ver_> will it not help to bring down the system to initial state
[12:13] <ikonia> _mrn_ver_: no
[12:13] <Routers> lolllllll
[12:13] <ikonia> Routers: what's funny ?
[12:13] <_mrn_ver_> y not
[12:13] <Routers> why i cant browse my internet !
[12:13] <triunity> ls
[12:13] <triunity> exit
[12:13] <amikrop> thune3: left clicking changes the keyboard layout and right clicking gives me 3 options: Groups (which shows the 2 layouts), Keyboard Preferences (which launches the known Preferences menu) and Show Current Layout (which shows the layout details through avirtual keyboard)
[12:13] <ikonia> _mrn_ver_: because it doesn't create backups of files to restore from, or packages of older versions. It just shows you files that have changed at a certain date
[12:13] <ikonia> triunity: please stop that
[12:14] <akssps011_> ikonia: probably because it wasn't installed with apt-get.. was the case with other dependencies of build-essential
[12:14] <akssps011_> ikonia: may be that info can help
[12:14] <ikonia> akssps011_: what wasnt installed with apt-get ?
[12:14] <_mrn_ver_> ikonia,  so no way to do initialization of system?
[12:14] <akssps011_> ikonia: libc6
[12:15] <ikonia> akssps011_: how did you install libc then ?
[12:15] <ikonia> _mrn_ver_: no
[12:15] <akssps011_> ikonia: I don't know, I never installed it by myself..may be got installed with something else
[12:15] <ikonia> akssps011_: it's a core system library it's installed (with apt-get) during the ubuntu installation
[12:16] <akssps011_> ikonia: where's it is stored..I can try adding it to apton by myself then
[12:16] <akssps011_> ?
[12:16] <ikonia> akssps011_: it's a lot of files and symlnks in /lib
[12:17] <rww> akssps011_: In case ikonia hasn't made it clear enough: libc6 is an essential system library. If you upgrade it in a way that isn't tested and supported by Ubuntu's developers, you are very, very, very likely to horribly break your system.
[12:18] <discozohan> I created raid10 with mdadm, target = /dev/md2. But after reboot its dissapeared, but new devices "/dev/md_d2, /dev/md_d2p[1-4]" appeared. So how can i start array ? mdadm -A /dev/md_d2 wants me to give info about array in mdadm.conf, but why i was able to start it before reboot ?
[12:18] <akssps011_> rww: The version I have on my current system is probably up to date, so it must be approved. But the system where I just installed 10.04 has an older version..just wanted to upgrade that
[12:19] <_mrn_ver_> i  m using ubuntu 10.04 .sometimes my screen starts blinking like an old b&w tv for just a second
[12:19] <ximal> I know this is a realllly stupid question . But .. Is there some sort of font pack that has to do with hdmi out etc ? Like a font pack specifically for HD tv's or LCD screens ?
[12:19] <ikonia> _mrn_ver_: probaby a glitch with your videocard / videocard drivers
[12:19] <thune3> amikrop: this page says "When you have multiple input languages installed, you’ll notice a new icon in your system tray on the top right." http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/17508/add-keyboard-input-language-to-ubuntu/
[12:19] <p_res> ximal: not that I'm aware of. What's your issue?
[12:20] <_mrn_ver_> ikonia,  so how can i fix it
[12:20] <amikrop> thune3: yeah. i want to remove it :S
[12:20] <akssps011_> rww: ikonia: would it be a good idea to remove libc6 using apt-get remove and then reinstall it using apt-get install (worked with other packages though but they weren't system packages)
[12:20] <ikonia> _mrn_ver_: get a different video card, contact the vendor for a better linux video card driver
[12:20] <akssps011_> ?
[12:20] <ikonia> akssps011_: no no no no no
[12:20] <ximal> p_res: i installed the ati hd stuff and it's made the screen text horrid .. I've got my hdmi video and audio in perfect order
[12:21] <thune3> amikrop: one option would be to only have one keyboard layout in keyboard preferences layouts. So you want multiple layouts but not shortcut to switch between them?
[12:21] <akssps011_> ikonia: so any way to make libc6 revert back to where it was when installed ?
[12:21] <ximal> p_res: i just need now to choose a non-reactive font that doesn't look like a rainbow against a white background
[12:21] <p_res> ximal: has it changed the system font at all?
[12:21] <ximal> oh .. no .. that's the problem
[12:21] <ikonia> akssps011_: you've asked this and I've told you "no"
[12:21] <amikrop> thune3: I have keyboard for shortcut
[12:21] <pksadiq> It's very dangerousto remove libc6
[12:21] <ikonia> pksadiq: it's impossible
[12:21] <p_res> ximal: dang!
[12:21] <amikrop> thune3: I mean, button combiation
[12:21] <ximal> there are some lcd fonts out there but i was hoping linux ubuntu had specifics or a reference
[12:22] <ximal> yeah
[12:22] <ximal> it gave me a puking migraine the first day to get used to it
[12:22] <p_res> ximal: Could be a proprietry font ATI has used perhaps.
[12:22] <ximal> talk about splitting headaches
[12:22] <ximal> oh no... the ati install from the shell command didn't change anything except for enable 720 and 1080i formats
[12:22] <omega__> ls
[12:22] <omega__> ls
[12:22] <pksadiq> It's possible, I removed once, but l8r I had 2 reinstall ubuntu
[12:23] <ximal> and increased the frame rate and fullscreen movie quality .. But the hdmi is so sexy i had to use it .. Because less cords is a good thing
[12:23] <akssps011_> ikonia: yeah..just making sure before I do something silly...so I feel there is no way to make my new installation have build-essential and hence I can't install the driver for my card and hence without an internet connection, it is of no use for me
[12:23] <ikonia> pksadiq: you can't remove it, as soon as you do, your system is dead
[12:23] <ximal> p_res: thanks for the talk though m8.. i'm going to fullscreen a movie now ..
[12:23] <akssps011_> ikonia: driver for my ethernet card
[12:23] <p_res> ximal: no probs.
[12:23] <ikonia> akssps011_: build the driver on a different machine and drop it onto the broke machine
[12:24] <Falcz> Hi, I am using ubuntu 10.04 on an old machine of mine. Everytime I multitask or use a bit more RAM than normal, ubuntu crashes. Any help would be much appreciated
[12:24] <ikonia> Falcz: define crashes
[12:25] <akssps011_> ikonia: but the driver is for my Dell Laptop and I have a 5 year old PC in addition to that. How can I build a driver for dell ethernet card on my PC ?
[12:25] <Falcz> ikonia: The screen goes black and then these white vertical stripes slowly blink
[12:25] <ikonia> akssps011_: the driver is linked to the OS, not the hardware, built on a box with ubuntu 10.04 on
[12:26] <akssps011_> ikonia: hm ok, so how do I build it ?  I mean I just have to install it on my PC and just copy the build files from there to corresponding folders on my Laptop ?
[12:27] <ikonia> akssps011_: you build it the same way on your other pc as you would locally.
[12:27] <ikonia> akssps011_: it just creates a .ko file you need to move across
[12:27] <akssps011_> ikonia: where is that file created ?
[12:28] <ikonia> akssps011_: in the source tree
[12:28] <hellboy316> hey how do you know if a user is a bot or not
[12:28] <eriksson25> Oki, I fixed the read only problem, now could someone help me seting up the fstab with corect mounting points, its missing the / /home /swap
[12:28] <ikonia> hellboy316: on irc ?
[12:28] <trinity> ls
[12:28] <omega__> ls
[12:28] <ikonia> trinity: stop that
[12:28] <hellboy316> yup
[12:28] <binaryknights> how do i mount primary partitions when i have installed ubuntu inside windows on another partitions
[12:28] <trinity> Its so fun!@
[12:28] <ikonia> trinity: stop it now
[12:28] <trinity> Next i wanna try:
[12:29] <trinity> sudo apt-get remove irc
[12:29] <binaryknights> need help on mounting devices from the terminal
[12:29] <ikonia> binaryknights: what's the issue
[12:30] <binaryknights> good evening
[12:30] <binaryknights> i have
[12:30] <binaryknights> ubuntu 10.04
[12:30] <binaryknights> installed in d drive
[12:30] <binaryknights> and windows
[12:30] <FloodBot3> binaryknights: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
 there is no way to know for sure if its a bot or not
[12:31] <Frostic> unless you ask them etc
[12:31] <eriksson25> My set up is changing the /dev/name on the os disk every bootup therefore I cant get a working fstab
[12:31] <binaryknights> need to mount windows in c drive from the terminal.
[12:31] <eureka_> hello
[12:31] <eureka_> anybody here
[12:31] <hellboy316> okies ...
[12:32] <Frostic> binaryknights: noob question i guess why would you want to do that?
[12:32] <itsux2bu> whats the bot instructions to put live cd on a usb ?
[12:33] <itsux2bu> a a link
[12:33] <binaryknights> just new to ubuntu
[12:33] <madfox> binaryknights err mount windows in the c drive, wth are you trying to do again?
[12:33] <binaryknights> want to learn to manage simple things from the terminal rather than graphically
[12:34] <VCoolio> binaryknights: 'sudo fdisk -l' to see what disks/partitions available
[12:34] <madfox> k well ubuntu doesnt have "C" drives
[12:34] <oCean_> !usb | itsux2bu
[12:34] <madfox> binaryknights it views partitions properly :)
[12:34] <thune3> eriksson25: that's what using drive-id by uuid or label is preferred
[12:34] <binaryknights> yup thats true, i just wanna know how to manually mount devices
[12:34] <itsux2bu> oCean_, thx
[12:34] <madfox> binaryknights run info mount
[12:34] <VCoolio> binaryknights: then: 'sudo mount /dev/sd?? /media/folder -t ntfs -o user,rw'  assuming it's ntfs and you want write access, choose an existing folder in /media that you have write access to
[12:35] <thune3> eriksson25: *that's why
[12:35] <binaryknights> so i need to manually make a mount point is media folder first?
[12:35] <binaryknights> in*
[12:35] <madfox> binaryknights for voolio's command replace the ?? with the number of your HD
[12:35] <VCoolio> binaryknights: if you want it automatically available add a line to /etc/fstab and yes, make mount point first
[12:35] <binaryknights> ok
[12:36] <binaryknights> thank u....
[12:36] <madfox> binaryknights though generally thats what /mnt is for :)
[12:36] <itsux2bu> i have to mount a usb pendrive before i format it?
[12:36] <binaryknights> ok make sense to me now thnks :)
[12:36] <binaryknights> making *
[12:37] <VCoolio> itsux2bu: no, only format / resize unmounted stuff
[12:38] <itsux2bu> VCoolio, is *nix formatter called      "format"?
[12:38] <itsux2bu> what man page?
[12:39] <totem> has anyone succeed about multihomed? i have 2 internet connection. adsl and mobile broadband. i want connect all of them to my laptop.
 yes I know, and I have that but the upgrade fucked it up. So its mising the / /home swap mounting points.
[12:39] <VCoolio> itsux2bu: man mkfs I think, but try gparted, much easier
[12:39] <itsux2bu> is formatting part of  Grub?
[12:39] <itsux2bu> apt-get install gparted   ?
[12:40] <eriksson25> My system disk is now sdj1 sdj2=swap and sdj3
[12:40] <VCoolio> itsux2bu: no, grub is the bootloader, gives options to boot one of multiple operating systems; yes, install gparted then run as root
[12:40] <om26er> is there a way I could download source package from a ppa? like apt-get source?
[12:40] <eriksson25> How shuld it be writen in the fstab with uuid to get it to work.
[12:40] <oCean_> eriksson25: modify your /etc/fstab to reflect the partitions UUID
[12:40] <itsux2bu> gparted work on usb pendrives?
[12:40] <oCean_> eriksson25: run "sudo blkid" to get the UUID information per partition
[12:40] <hellboy316> hey i wanted to ask this ... What does that UUID stand for
[12:40] <thune3> eriksson25: fixing fstab to use uuid (from a livecd/liveusb boot) would be the course of action to correct your issue
[12:41] <VCoolio> itsux2bu: I guess, it works on external hdd
[12:41] <oCean_> hellboy316: It's an unique ID for each drive/partition
[12:41] <VCoolio> om26er: if you added the ppa, that is the right command
[12:41] <KE1HA> itsux2bu:  no, grub doesnt' format, just boots things, usually me when I hose up the .cfg file :-) yes gparted works on USB drives.
[12:41] <eriksson25> I can now write to fstab no problem.
[12:41] <Falcz> Hi, I am using ubuntu 10.04 on an old machine of mine. Everytime I multitask or use a bit more RAM than normal, ubuntu crashes. Any help would be much appreciated :)
[12:41] <hellboy316> i mean if i manually edit fstab ... should i add one to every partition
[12:41] <itsux2bu> VCoolio, thx.. you got me started in the right direction..
[12:41] <oCean_> eriksson25: run sudo blkid and then change the fstab accordingly
[12:42] <om26er> VCoolio, it downloads the source from Ubuntu archives and not the ppa
[12:42] <oCean_> hellboy316: yes, you could
[12:42] <eriksson25> So Only need to finde the right line to type. how do I know if its sdj1 or sdj 3 thats / or /home
[12:42] <thune3> amikrop: i looked through gconf settings (gconf-editor) and any option if it exists would seem to be in /desktop/gnome/peripherals/keyboard/indicator/ but i didn't see anything.
[12:42] <hellboy316> okies cool ...
[12:42] <VCoolio> om26er: ah, so the same package in different versions is available in ubuntu repo and your third party repo?
[12:43] <totem> Falcz; first, shutdown your compiz.
[12:43] <eriksson25> Oki, run it and now have the uuid
[12:43] <billy> Falcz: could be flakey memory - reboot and run the mem-test _over night_
[12:43] <Falcz> totem: Sorry, im a linux noob. How do I do that?
[12:44] <amikrop> thune3: I see. Thanks a lot, anyway :)
[12:44] <eriksson25> is first partition always root system? sdj1= /
[12:44] <hellboy316> how do i specify the servicename for a pppoe connection .... the pppoe package had the pppoe.conf file which i could edit ... how do i do it in ubuntu 10.4
[12:44] <oCean_> eriksson25: use the "mount" command (no options) to show what partition is mounted to what mountpoint
[12:44] <Falcz> billy: Ok thanks, will do :)
[12:44] <yann2> hello! I want to create my own Ubuntu derivative - ubuntu based, just with a different package selection, maybe a different background and configuration... where could I find a tutorial about how to do that?
[12:45] <ikonia> yann2: that is not supported here
[12:45] <totem> Falcz; right click on desktop > change background desktop > visual effect > choose none for visual effect.
[12:45] <yann2> ikonia, where should I ask?
[12:45] <ikonia> yann2: no idea
[12:45] <KE1HA> yann2:  look for a remastering channel
[12:46] <eriksson25> Hmm, dosent say, but guess it can only be one out of two so could just try.
[12:46] <pherenhight> Unable to trash file: Permission denied
[12:46] <aeon-ltd> yann2: look up reconstructor
[12:46] <eriksson25> But sdj3 will be /home  if sdj1 is / right?
[12:46] <Falcz> totem: Ahh, ok thats what I thought. They are already turned off.
[12:46] <madfox> pherenhight use sudo
[12:46] <pherenhight> aef aeon-ltd
[12:47] <surendra> quit
[12:47] <totem> Falcz; second-th, honestly, for old machine i choose linuxmint. sorry.
[12:47] <mae_tae> hello people, does xinetd or inetd runs by default?
[12:47] <oCean_> eriksson25: if the partition is currently mounted, the 'mount' command should output it. Also an "fdisk -l /dev/sdc" could give you more info on the partitions
[12:47] <ikonia> mae_tae: neither
[12:47] <hellboy316> ya how do i change the run levels on the newer ubuntus
[12:47] <ikonia> mae_tae: you have to install the one you want
[12:47] <oCean_> eriksson25: "sudo fdisk -l" that is..
[12:47] <ikonia> hellboy316: you don't, everything is run at level 2
[12:48] <Falcz> totem: Np, thanks anyhow :)
[12:48] <ikonia> !upstart > hellboy316
[12:48] <mae_tae> ikonia, because i encounter transfer timed out in tftd? what is the cause of this? how do i resolve it?
[12:48] <totem> Falcz; linuxmint just eat about 125MB of my RAM, and i'm using swap.
[12:48] <hellboy316> okies i will check it out thanks buddy
[12:49] <ikonia> totem: plese don't support linux mint in here, or use it as a support resource
[12:49] <ikonia> mae_tae: see what's launching tftp, then see if that's running
[12:50] <mae_tae> ikonia, actually when i type tftp localhost it will give tftp> console, but when i type get test.txt or something, it will transfer timed out but when i look at the logs, i see cannot bind to ipv4 - address is in use
[12:51] <st__> how to symlink a directory recursively?
[12:54] <oCean_> st__: what?
[12:54] <hellboy316> hey guys ,,, i wanted to where can i play the simple complete the word game on irc
[12:55] <st__> a directory recursively symlink I need
[12:55] <oCean_> st__: I don't understand
[12:56] <pelado> hi
[12:57] <st__> a directory should be real but its contents  the symlinks to their siblings
[12:57] <mae_tae> how do i resolve "cannot bind to ipv4 local - address in use"? error comes from running tftp
[12:57] <oCean_> st__: maybe write a script to symlink all subdirectories. Why not just symlink the parent dir?
[12:58] <joschi> mae_tae: kill the running tftp
[12:58] <oCean_> mae_tae: in that case the tftp is already running
[12:58] <hellboy316> run lsof ... may be another instance of it is still running
[12:58] <aeon-ltd> !ot | hellboy316
[12:58] <oCean_> mae_tae: "netstat -anp |grep tftp" will show the port and process
[12:59] <hellboy316> !ot | aeon-ltd
[12:59] <st__> script in what language?
[12:59] <madfox> st__ whatever one you may know?
[12:59] <hellboy316> hey guys what all messages can i give to bot
[13:00] <oCean_> st__: well, it's all shell commands. I'd say a bash script. I don't completely understand, since I don't know if you have to symlink all subdirs, and all subdirs in those subdirs.. and so on
[13:00] <pksadiq> ask bot
[13:00] <mae_tae> ocean_, when i try to run netstat - a | grep tftpd there is a result like this 0 0 *:tftp 0, but running ps or other netstat parament, i dont see any instance
[13:00] <pksadiq> type help
[13:00] <hellboy316> run lsof
[13:00] <oCean_> mae_tae: sudo netstat -anp
[13:00] <oCean_> mae_tae: the np are important
[13:00] <aaron11> !chinese
[13:00] <st__> is there a channel for bash&
[13:01] <ibrahim-kasem>  The update manager is asking me to update my kernel but i have the latest version already ,guys please see this image http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/9058/screenshotbvp.png
[13:01] <oCean_> st__: sure, #bash
[13:01] <pksadiq> go to #bash
[13:01] <mae_tae> ocean_, thanks, does xinet in ubuntu runs in default?
[13:01] <yann2> aeon-ltd, just found uck :) giving it a try now
[13:02] <oCean_> mae_tae: I don't even think that xinetd is default package. But once installed, it should always startup I guess
[13:03] <mae_tae> ocean_, ok thanks
[13:04] <blink> is there any good simple audio editing program for ubuntu? like cooledit
[13:04] <madfox> blink audacity works good
[13:04] <karlo_> is there any method for opening flash in browser (I use firefox) with vlc (or maybe another player) ?
[13:05] <blink> madfox: imma give it a try. thanks bro.
[13:05] <madfox> blink I use it for trimming off empty sound on mp3 files :)
[13:05] <madfox> blink np
[13:06] <blink> madfox: that should be my only use for it. sometimes i save snippets for my mobile phone to set them as ringtones ;)
[13:06] <nogo> that's not legal i think
[13:07] <madfox> nogo yes it, I create custom ringtones with my own voice plenty!
[13:07] <madfox> but...
[13:07] <madfox> !ot | nogo madf0x
[13:07] <madfox> :)
[13:07] <blink> madfox: it doesn't overwrite save the file! it says save project .aud!
[13:08] <blink> madfox: how to fix that?
[13:08] <LinuxNewbie> Where can I obtain the .deb package files for software. The Ubuntu software center is really annoying, it gets the software automatically but doesn't give me a .deb package file I can add to my backup software archives, (in case of hard drive failure).
[13:08] <madfox> blink odd, well idr right now :(
[13:08] <flubacake> yey ssl werkz on this shit
[13:09] <madfox> blink maybe you can find an audacity channel? or read the man page?
[13:09] <blink> madfox k
[13:09] <flubacake> kkk
[13:10] <DoubleString> hey all
[13:10] <LinuxNewbie> Is there a good source for the Ubuntu .deb package files?
[13:10] <psyt7> does anyone know how to reduce the kernel load balancing tick when using hyper threading on a single core cpu? consumes way to much power at idle
[13:10] <elky> packages.ubuntu.com
[13:10] <elky> LinuxNewbie, ^
[13:10] <psyt7> without disabling HT that is
[13:10] <LinuxNewbie> I will check it out, thank you.
[13:12] <elky> LinuxNewbie, though you can also download for offline installation with synaptic, which will make sure it gets all relevant dependancies
[13:12] <zulax> my ubuntu system time is always 1 hr less than it should be, changing it doesnt help after a shutdown
[13:12] <pksadiq> Change your default location
[13:12] <LinuxNewbie> How do I view PM messages?
[13:13] <chrislsp> Hello
[13:13] <chrislsp> is anyone here?
[13:13] <maplebeat> I am
[13:13] <chrislsp> i have a process running
[13:13] <chrislsp> name is fizezilla.exe
[13:13] <chrislsp> a friend of mine opened it
[13:13] <chrislsp> with wine
[13:13] <pksadiq> good
[13:13] <maplebeat> then?
[13:14] <chrislsp> and i saw that this is a virus :S
[13:14] <nogo> lol
[13:14] <maplebeat> what?
[13:14] <maplebeat> virus?
[13:14] <pksadiq> try to remove wine
[13:14] <chrislsp> and there are a lot of processes and i cant kill them all
[13:14] <nogo> run it in a vm next time
[13:14] <phoenix_> hello
[13:15] <Daekdroom> chrislsp, try killing a processs called wineserver
[13:15] <chrislsp> do you know any command that i can kill all processes together
[13:15] <chrislsp> ok
[13:15] <Daekdroom> chrislsp, explorer.exe, winedevice.exe etc, they should be necessary to run stuff on top of wine, so it should kill all of them
[13:15] <nogo> killall?
[13:15] <pksadiq> if you kill whole your computer will halt
[13:16] <maplebeat> remove wine and restart
[13:16] <pksadiq> try to remove wine if you can't kill wineserver
[13:16] <chrislsp> killall fizezilla.exe or something like that?
[13:16] <nogo> ...
[13:16] <chrislsp> i killed wineserver..wine** etc and still running
[13:17] <pksadiq> so remove wine and restart you box
[13:17] <maplebeat> I said
[13:18] <nogo> so, how many zombie do you have?
[13:18] <pksadiq> first I said :)
[13:18] <chrislsp> 50 + or -
[13:18] <maplebeat> wow!
[13:18] <nogo> O.o
[13:18] <chrislsp> ok killed them! :P
[13:18] <nogo> it's impossible
[13:18] <KE1HA> On / Off boot to recovery, force remove wine
[13:19] <chrislsp> ok doing a reboot
[13:19] <chrislsp> thanks
[13:19] <maplebeat> kill your system
[13:19] <nogo> i mean, the zombie amount in the 'top' command
[13:19] <nogo> 50 zomebies, oh my
[13:19] <chrislsp> maybe it was less
[13:19] <maplebeat> kill it one by one
[13:20] <chrislsp> i tryide killall Fizezilla.exe
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[13:21] <zulax> whats goin on here
[13:21] <maplebeat> ?
[13:21] <Daekdroom> !ops
[13:21] <maplebeat> 有人看得懂不
[13:22] <chris_osx> maplebeat: what does that mean?
[13:22] <maplebeat> nothing
[13:23] <maplebeat> test
[13:23] <nogo> it means the control codes
[13:24] <sammy> anyone know of an application that can resize ext2 images in windows? no suggestions of live cds or applications that require administrator rights to install, thank you, though that's all I've been able to find myself
[13:24] <nogo> if he put some glitch unicode chars into the channel, i will get crash
[13:24] <neoprog> Hello, y try to mass rename mv *.jpg TN-*.jpg but this not works
[13:24] <neoprog> how can i do it please ?
[13:25] <lotus_> hey, when I turn on my computer there's a splash screen.  At this screen there's a short little noise before I type in my passphrase.  How can I disable this noise?
[13:25] <nogo> search: oneliner +bulk +rename
[13:26] <Frostic> lotus_: is it a system beep or speakers?
[13:26] <nogo> !@#@$$#%
[13:27] <lotus_> Frostic: speakers
[13:27] <pksadiq> You may try for file in ~/ do mv or-$file done
[13:27] <geirha> neoprog: rename -n 's/^/TN-/' *.jpg
[13:27] <Cube``> gosh
[13:28] <Cube``> are there any problems with the network manager?
[13:28] <Cube``> after recent updates?
[13:28] <lotus_> ignore parts
[13:28] <pksadiq> Just 10 more hours
[13:28] <Cube``> ???
[13:29] <VCoolio> neoprog: for i in $(ls
[13:29] <nogo> Cube``: did your network/browser get stuck randomly?
[13:29] <Frostic> then it prolly is your soundcard initializing i sugest turning off speakers when you first boot up that will get rid of it :D
[13:29] <VCoolio> neoprog: for i in $(ls | grep jpg); do mv {,TN-}$i; done
[13:29] <lambo> hello
[13:29] <pksadiq> there is a  great problem with firefox
[13:29] <Frostic> i dont think you can disable that :/
[13:30] <nogo> pksadiq: what's that?
[13:30] <lambo> what problem ?
[13:30] <Cube``> nogo: no, and its on two different ubuntu systems, got problems to connect on both of them.
[13:31] <Cube``> nogo: one is wireless, one wired
[13:31] <Frostic> pksadiq:has left the building
[13:31] <Cube``> nogo: especially because on one system it says "WLAN: Connection established." but "ping google.com" doesnt work
[13:32] <Cameron> hi, I run a ubuntu server and am getting "too may open files" errors.  cat /proc/sys/fs/file-max shows 1140053, and I have a /etc/security/limits.conf entry "* - nofile 1140053" but ulimit -n still shows 1024
[13:32] <nogo> maybe your lan topology is too 1337 and confused script kiddles
[13:33] <nogo> that's a good thing
[13:33] <Cube``> nogo: so, what would you suggest?
[13:33] <nogo> don't change anything
[13:33] <nogo> you are secure
[13:33] <nogo> (ha)
[13:33] <Frostic> i can check how secure if you want ;)
[13:34] <nogo> by spamming my logs?
[13:35] <Frostic> lol no by running a port scan to check for open ports
[13:35] <nogo> freenode has done that
[13:35] <Frostic> na they only check some ports
[13:35] <nogo> port scanning is a joke now
[13:36] <ghostlines> i have a wireless card installed but can't seem to get it up, first it wasn't detected at all in ifconfig, then i add the prims54 module and now i can see it
[13:36] <Frostic> ones proxies are usualy on
[13:36] <madfox> !ot | Frostic nogo
[13:36] <neoprog>  rename -n 's/^/TN-/' *.jpg works find :):):)
[13:36] <neoprog> tank you very much
[13:36] <Chuwiey> Hi, i've set up svnserve, but i keep getting a connection refused. I've gone so far as to completely flush my iptables and disable ufw (ubuntu lucid), but still "connection actively refused" - where is the log file? what might be going on?
[13:36] <ghostlines> is it safe to say that the driver is loaded otherwise i wouldn't be able to detect it right?
[13:36] <Milp_main> Whats the most lightweight window manager when ever lxde and fluxbox and co are too slow and heavy?
[13:37] <karlo_> anybody know megaupload hack (so you can watch video more than 76 min..) ?
[13:37] <Frostic> lmao
[13:38] <Frostic> you got to be kidding me
[13:38] <karlo_> no
[13:38] <aeon-ltd> Milp_main: some tiling wms, but how are the *boxes slow? (relative to DEs anyway)
[13:38] <pksadiq> Try website.org to upload files
[13:38] <Milp_main> aeon-ltd i dont know they just are, and lxde pretty buggy too on arm
[13:39] <aeon-ltd> Milp_main: arm? seriously? your running ubuntu on a arm cpu?
[13:39] <Milp_main> yeah
[13:39] <VCoolio> Milp_main: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Lightweight_Applications#Window_managers
[13:39] <pksadiq> Website.org gives 10 gb free hosting with ftp and mysql
[13:39] <Milp_main> for comparison: firefox takes 10 minutes to start, synaptics takes 5-10 minutes to search for a package
[13:40] <nogo> lol
[13:40] <pksadiq> Who is running ubuntu on ARM?
[13:40] <pksadiq> I need help
[13:40] <nogo> don't trust a cpu without mmu
[13:40] <Cube``> shit man
[13:40] <VCoolio> Milp_main: that's not a window manager issue; try lightweight browser, chromium or midori; use terminal for package management
[13:40] <aeon-ltd> Milp_main: the WM is unlikely to cause huge slowdowns like that, check top/htop and see whats consuming so much cpu and ram
[13:41] <geirha> neoprog: It doesn't actually work, not with the -n anyway. See ''man rename'', though you might have already figured that :)
[13:41] <Milp_main> VCoolio yeah but terminal for package management is very annoying when you are trying to sort out trash. Aptitude has bad controls when you dont have a keyboard with F keys, and yeah i will try a lightweight browser too ;)
[13:41] <pksadiq> any body here using ARM cpu?
[13:41] <Milp_main> i am
[13:41] <nogo> not me
[13:42] <nogo> why don't you use via nano or atom?
[13:42] <Milp_main> huh?
[13:42] <nogo> they are small enough now
[13:42] <pksadiq> then canyou help me to find a best linux for arm?
[13:42] <nogo> in my mind, arm is for toys
[13:42] <aeon-ltd> Milp_main: imo, you should think about running ground up distros to remove all uneccessary waste from stock
[13:43] <Milp_main> ground up distros?
[13:43] <nogo> pksadiq: maybe you can install netbsd
[13:43] <nogo> pksadiq: or some distros for embedded systems
[13:43] <nikitis> can someone tell me the package to encrypt an md5 password?
[13:43] <xue> who are in channel #freebsd
[13:44] <xue> can you invite me?
[13:44] <xue> who are in channel #freebsd
[13:44] <xue> can you invite me?
[13:44] <Jenny-uk> hi i found something in ubuntu heheheh it is called netbeans :) something totally new to me. i know how to  build gui but the problem is with command does anyone know where i could get more info about basic commands ? i want to build gui where are buttons and using those buttons  i want to execute shell application does anyone know how to do it ? at the moment im able to close gui and i know there is a lot to learn but
[13:44] <Jenny-uk> i need to know basic commands first and i cant find anything on netbeans.org etc
[13:44] <pksadiq> My phone  Uses  ARM CU
[13:44] <Milp_main> aeon-ltd what do you mean by ground up distros?
[13:45] <nogo> i got bad experience from a poor gps
[13:45] <nogo> it's arm-based, with wince
[13:45] <pksadiq> More than netbeans I  Like QT creator
[13:45] <nogo> one word, deadly SLOW
[13:46] <pksadiq> my phone  cpu is  220 mhz
[13:46] <pksadiq> and about 32 mb ram
[13:46] <lixujia> Do anyone write OpenGL code?
[13:46] <asac> Jenny-uk: netbeans is just a development environment for java. so i think what you ask for is how to develop java. we cant cover this question. try to search for java tutorials using google or so
[13:46] <nogo> i think, if intel can remake p-mmx with 32nm chip art, it will beat your arm cpu
[13:47] <aeon-ltd> Milp_main: no gui, no X, no excess apps, essentially you've got nothing but the tools to get online via command line, a package manager and a kernel
[13:47] <lixujia> I need help
[13:47] <aeon-ltd> !ask | lixujia
[13:47] <pksadiq> Arm is just for mobile and other small devices, not for pc
[13:47] <Routers> ok now i can browse my internet .. some can tell me why my user cant login thru their putty at a different location ?
[13:47] <Milp_main> aeon-ltd uh but what im actually aiming for is to get a good and fully functional internet browser. Thats the only reason ive really installed linux. The android browsers all suck
[13:48] <aeon-ltd> Milp_main: is this a phone?
[13:48] <Milp_main> yeah
[13:48] <Milp_main> ubuntu runs in a chroot jail
[13:48] <aeon-ltd> Milp_main: what mhz cpu?
[13:48] <Milp_main> 550mhz cortex a6, oced to 1ghz
[13:48] <asac> pksadiq: modern arm SoCs are good enough to expand into the netbook and tablet market.
[13:48] <sorbiq> hi all
[13:48] <asac> like 1GhZ dual core ;)
[13:49] <lixujia> to ubottu: Thanks
[13:49] <aeon-ltd> Milp_main: physical keyboard?
[13:49] <pksadiq> but it would  very nice for a phone if the whole  phone OS is only shell  and Ascii art is used as gui
[13:49] <Milp_main> yeah but not a full one, F keys for instance are missing
[13:49] <aeon-ltd> Milp_main: do you have something similar to a windows/alt/ctrl key?
[13:49] <pksadiq> My phone is about 4years old
[13:49] <Milp_main> yes aeon
[13:50] <pksadiq> just like Matrix green art
[13:51] <aeon-ltd> Milp_main: then i reccommend a tiling WM like dwm, awesome, wmii, they can rely on keyboard shortcuts and bindings, all apps by default run fullscreen and window management is all done by the wm, potentially you should never have to move a window yourself
[13:52] <lixujia> I wrote a code segment to test the OpenGL select mode. But after the select render complete, and it return the result in the select buffer, I found that the z1,z2 value are random ones.
[13:52] <Milp_main> aeon-ltd hmm alright, ill have a look at some, but first im gonna try xfce
[13:52] <lixujia> anyone know about that?
[13:54] <aeon-ltd> Milp_main: in my experience, xfce is much slower than openbox and lxde
[13:54] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[13:55] <jacob__> Hey everyone, i could really use some help with something
[13:57] <aeon-ltd> !ask | jacob__
[13:57] <Routers> !glib
[14:00] <Cameron> hi, I run a ubuntu server and am getting "too may open files" errors.  cat /proc/sys/fs/file-max shows 1140053, and I have a /etc/security/limits.conf entry "* - nofile 1140053" but ulimit -n still shows 1024
[14:00] <fancybit> hello geek boys & hackers
[14:00] <fancybit> good day hur?
[14:00] <madfox> yep
[14:00] <mechanicles> Hi all
[14:00] <fancybit> can I update the grub to 2.0 on ubuntu?
[14:01] <madfox> I dont see why not
[14:01] <jacob__> I have a problem, i turned my laptop on this morning and it loaded okay past the HP logo (hp laptop yes i know i was asking for it in the first place) and then it goes to a completely blank screen but with a small flashing white line in the top left hand corner, it wouldnt load my windows OS or my ubuntu OS, every key i pressed made it make a beeping sound, if i click CTRL+ALT+DELETE it...
[14:01] <jacob__> ...would restart. i reinstalled ubuntu over my normal ubuntu installtion and now im running it but i am completely unable to get my windows OS to start up.
[14:01] <fancybit> so I'll try, wish I could restart back here soon ;)
[14:01] <madfox> My opinion for all things "can I...?" is to try it and see if it works
[14:02] <fancybit> I mean should I backup sth first?
[14:02] <madfox> jacob__ sounds like you got hw issues
[14:02] <Frostic> jacob__: your running both os's on 1 drive?
[14:02] <madfox> fancybit yeah
[14:03] <madfox> fancybit whenever you mess with bootloaders are partitions and youre not sure if it will work, backup first
[14:03] <madfox> *or partitions
[14:03] <Frostic> ALLWAYS BACKUP WHEN YOU DO ANYTHING
[14:03] <jacob__> yes i have a partition
[14:03] <Frostic> ooops caps
[14:03] <fancybit> so what tools should I use? ghost or tar?
[14:03] <mechanicles> I had installed ubuntu 10.04 last Tuesday. Since then my laptop's sound automatic gets switch off after playing some videos on facebook or youtube.
[14:04] <pksadiq> Could you load BIOS?
[14:04] <jacob__> one partition is ubuntu one is windows they were both working perfectly fine on grub untill this morning
[14:04] <fancybit> or other conveinent tools?
[14:04] <mechanicles> what is the problem?
[14:04] <jacob__> and madfox i dont know if i do or not all of my startup, memory, system, hardware checks are all fine and everything runs perfectly on ubuntu, i just dont get it
[14:04] <madfox> fancybit id tar it and put it on a cd or a usb
[14:04] <Frostic> jacob__: well if on different partitions then like madfox said it sounds like hardware issues
[14:05] <madfox> jacob__ the mass beepings are usually spewed from the BIOS which=hw issue
[14:05] <pksadiq> Con you load bios?
[14:05] <jacob__> no the beepings only occur when i press a button other then they not a peep
[14:05] <Frostic> look up beep codes for your computer model?
[14:06] <ruffleS> hi everybody. i have a question. why is it firefox won't open certain websites on lucid while on windows it just works? when i try to open i.e. digg.com firefox just hangs, nothing is shown
[14:06] <jacob__> i can load the bios settings and stuff yes
[14:06] <ruffleS> this is prolly due to this slow connection. there must be some timeout i'm not aware of...
[14:07] <pksadiq> A while after blink try ALT+ CONTROL +F2
[14:07] <Wazzzaaa> Does somebody know how I can disable 'Gtk-WARNING' in Terminal?
[14:07] <asac> ruffleS: is that a new issue? if so, try logging out and logging in again. if that doesnt help start firefox -safe-mode (which disables all extension). and if that help you can afterwards try to find the extension that causes problems by disabling them one by one until it works
[14:07] <jacob__> the beeps are 1 beep for each key so beeps mean nothing
[14:07] <jacob__> and i will try that pksadiq
[14:08] <jacob__> now i have installed ubuntu it loads straight to ubuntu like the the windows partition isnt even there although i can see all of my files from here
[14:08] <pksadiq> Also you may try holding the shift key when it starts to boot
[14:09] <dmex> ruffleS: firefox does have some timout issues with slow connections.
[14:09] <ruffleS> asac, that's not a new issue. and it only happens on this internet connection i'm using right now. i'll try to start firefox in safe mode and see what happens
[14:09] <Frostic> lol |sysop| was here
[14:09] <BluesKaj> ruffleS, install flashplugin-installer
[14:09] <jacob__> okay i will try that soon thank you
[14:09] <fancybit> ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/grub/
[14:09] <fancybit> I'dont see the grub2
[14:09] <ruffleS> dmex, oh.. that must be my case...
[14:09] <asac> ruffleS: yeah. extensions are first idea that come to my mind ... especially if you have a bunch installed
[14:09] <fancybit> why?
[14:09] <Frostic> ruffleS: i got something special for you
[14:09] <fancybit> seems like 1.98 is the newest one
[14:10] <max_> How to remaster Ubuntu
[14:10] <pksadiq>  To  see grub menu while booting press and hold shift key
[14:10] <Frostic> ruffleS: change your dns servers to googles dns servers 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 instant internet boost
[14:10] <fancybit> what's "remaster" means?
[14:10] <ruffleS> asac, hey.. digg works on safe mode/1 /;o
[14:10] <asac> fancybit: yes. 1.98 is what is in ubuntu
[14:10] <houserockr> hey guys! how can i have the plain good old window-switcher of metacity when using the compiz window decorator?
[14:10] <ruffleS> :O
[14:10] <krishnasut> Hello my friends !! gtk themes are ugly .. is not it ? is there any way to make it more cool !!
[14:10] <fancybit> -0-
[14:11] <asac> ruffleS: yeah. so go to extnesion manager without -safe-mode ... and disable extensions one-by-one (restart and try in between) until you find the intruder
[14:11] <fancybit> so nothing I have to care then
[14:11] <nogo> you can remaster somebody has remasterred
[14:11] <asac> ruffleS: then just disable that or remove and and get over ;)
[14:11] <ruffleS> Frostic, i've tried that already
[14:11] <BluesKaj> krishnasut, personally i prefer kde ...
[14:11] <pksadiq> if you are using compiz  also try emarald
[14:11] <Frostic> then try opera
[14:11] <Frostic> opera is a lil more stable than ff anyways
[14:11] <houserockr> krishnasut: "apt-cache search theme | grep gtk2"
[14:11] <asac> err ... opera is not the solution. just find the bogus extension and all will be shiny
[14:12] <ruffleS> asac, thanks buddy
[14:12] <asac> ruffleS: welcome
[14:12] <krishnasut> Thanks !! I am trying ..
[14:12] <BluesKaj> ruffleS,, how old is your install ?
[14:12] <ruffleS> BluesKaj, not older than a week
[14:12] <ruffleS> i haven't installed any extra extension so far..
[14:12] <prakhar_ol> can anyone tell me how to run lampp and native apache2 simultaneously
[14:13] <nogo> opera often connects to its mothership
[14:13] <ruffleS> now that i typed digg.com into the address bar firefox opened it...
[14:13] <Frostic> ruffleS your on windows right?
[14:13] <jacob__> Hey im back, i tried holding the shift key and Grub came up, my windows 7 partition isnt even there!! Any ideas about what to do?
[14:13] <ruffleS> Frostic, nope.. i'm on lucid lynx
[14:13] <dmex> !lamp | prakhar_ol
[14:13] <BluesKaj> ruffleS, have you installed ubuntu-restricted-extras and flashplugin-installer ?
[14:13] <madfox> jacob__ load ubuntu and then run gparted to see if you can spot the partition
[14:13] <prakhar_ol> ubottu: thanks dear.... tht all is known to me
[14:14] <ruffleS> BluesKaj, yes
[14:14] <prakhar_ol> ubottu: i want to knw how to run both together
[14:14] <AnAnt> is it possible to upgrade from 9.10 to 10.04.1 ?
[14:14] <BluesKaj> ruffleS, and FF still hangs ?
[14:14] <BluesKaj> on digg
[14:15] <ruffleS> BluesKaj, it usually works.. the only issue i am experiencing is when i try to open digg.com and www.g1.globo.com
[14:15] <prakhar_ol> plz someone help me
[14:16] <jacob__> madfox i can see the partition
[14:16] <madfox> jacob__ whats the mount point and does it have a boot flag?
[14:16] <ruffleS> BluesKaj, after what asac told me i ran firefox without the safe mode thing and typed in the address bar digg.com and it worked...
[14:16] <domenico__> HI Boys, can you tell me how reset The Desktop Pannel?
[14:16] <Edson`> I installed Ubuntu 10.04 via Wubi, and for no reason at random times, it restarts
[14:16] <prakhar_ol> can anyone tell me how to run lampp and native apache2 simultaneously??
[14:17] <aeon-ltd> !panel | domenico__
[14:17] <aeon-ltd> !panels | domenico__
[14:17] <jacob__> it doesnt have a mount point but it has a boot flag
[14:17] <madfox> set the mount point as something like /windows
[14:17] <domenico__> aeon-ltd, THankS! :*
[14:17] <aeon-ltd> domenico__: your welcome
[14:18] <Edson`> I installed Ubuntu 10.04 via Wubi, and for no reason at random times, it restarts
[14:18] <dmex> prakhar_ol: explain your problem.
[14:18] <jacob__> madfox how do i set a mount point?
[14:18] <aeon-ltd> Edson`: overheating?, kernel updates?, random script?
[14:19] <madfox> jacob__ double click the empty spot under mount point and type /windows :P
[14:19] <Edson`> aeon-ltd: no, how would i check for a kernel update?, and not that i know of
[14:19] <aeon-ltd> Edson`: it just comes as a update with synaptics/apt
[14:20] <jacob__> wont let me lol
[14:20] <ruffleS> asac, hey.. sorry to bother u again.. even on the safe mode g1.globo.com won't open...
[14:20] <Edson`> aeon-ltd: no updates
[14:20] <Frostic> ruffleS: if safe mode worked then there is something loading in ff that is messing it up that is an addon or an extension. try reinstalling ff
[14:21] <aeon-ltd> Edson`: overheating?
[14:21] <ruffleS> Frostic, g1.globo.com won't work even on safe mode
[14:21] <Frostic> just tested g1.globo.com and well it dont even load on my machine im thinking they are having issues
[14:21] <jacob__> okay i mounted it via opening it thru computer and its mount in /media/80444FEA444FE210
[14:21] <ruffleS> Frostic, not rly... it works on windows
[14:22] <Edson`> aeon-ltd: This computer hasn't even been on for an hour, i just got restarted 10 minutes ago
[14:22] <Frostic> i just tried it on internet explorer
[14:22] <madfox> jacob__ use sudo gparted and right click edit.
[14:22] <Frostic> nadda
[14:22] <asac> ruffleS: not sure if flash is disabled in safe-mode ... you could try that in the tools -> addons -> plugins
[14:22] <aeon-ltd> Edson`: did you happen to follow a how to guide prior to this happening?
[14:22] <madfox> jacob__ youre gunna want a mount point set :)
[14:23] <Edson`> aeon-ltd: of what sort?
[14:23] <madfox> jacob__ after that run sudo update-grub
[14:23] <aeon-ltd> Edson`: any kind
[14:24] <Edson`> aeon-ltd: no
[14:24] <aeon-ltd> Edson`: sorry but i'm out of ideas
[14:24] <jacob__> when i try to right click the partition theres no edit option
[14:24] <Edson`> aeon-ltd: ah it's quite alright
[14:24] <aeon-ltd> Edson`: except some person who had access to your pc and wrote a script as a prank
[14:25] <jacob__> was the /media file mount okay?
[14:26] <Frostic> try this -------> <asac> ruffleS: not sure if flash is disabled in safe-mode ... you could try that in the tools -> addons -> plugins
[14:26] <houserockr> how can i disable either the "static application switcher" or the "application switcher" from making thumbnails? its crappy slow!!!
[14:26] <jacob__> well i did the update for grub
[14:26] <madfox> jacob__ aah well that should be good enough, init 6 and see if it works
[14:26] <Frostic> jacob__ you got a windows cd?
[14:27] <jacob__> Nope but i can burn the ISO if that would help
[14:27] <humbolt> an array which I do not recall, that I have created is shown in the disk utility
[14:27] <ruffleS> Frostic, would flash still be an issue when youtube works 100%?
[14:27] <jacob__> you want me to run repair and what not?
[14:27] <BSD-CLI> hi
[14:27] <humbolt> but "disk utility" does not provide any more detail
[14:27] <BSD-CLI> What's the best 64-bit Operating System to use as my host OS? — Currently planning to install FreeBSD 8.1 64-bit, OpenSolaris 2009.06 64-bit, Solaris 10 10/09 & Ubuntu 10.04 64-bit. Win7 64-bit is already installed, but makes a terrible host OS. [need one for virtualisation etc.]
[14:27] <humbolt> on which partitions are concerned
[14:27] <humbolt> how can I find out more_
[14:27] <Frostic> yes try to repair windows
[14:29] <pksadiq>  I recommend ubuntu 10.04 64 because I like it very much
[14:30] <Frostic> ruffleS: i have no clue just try reinstalling ff
[14:30] <ruffleS> Frostic, ok.. thanks :)
[14:31] <lewench> Hello, I have a small issue, I was playing World Of Warcraft, and my Ubuntu froze up had to turn off the power. For some reason when it rebooted the xorg.conf file (I assume) got messed up. I can only use a resolution os 640x480. I am using an Nvidia 8800GTS with the recommended drivers. Can anyone point me in the right direction? My sound doesn't seem to be working either.
[14:31] <ojii> hi everyone
[14:31] <ruffleS> what is the CLI command to check which dns servers i'm using?
[14:32] <reeves_> ку
[14:32] <pksadiq> !info nvidia-settings
[14:32] <ojii> I use ubuntu 10.04 on a macbook pro 5.5 and I'm trying to disable this god damn touchpad. I've tried any suggestion I found on google (synclient, some gui tools, some xorg.conf hacking etc) but none works. this silly thing just re-enable itself after a few minutes of being disabled. does anyone have an idea what I could do to turn this annyoing thing off?
[14:32] <Frostic> lewench: lol wow on linux using wine i presume?
[14:33] <lewench> Frostic, Yes. It actually runs great, was doing  a 25man ICC
[14:33] <tull> ojii, if you go into system - preferences - mouse can you disable the touchpad?
[14:33] <acidflash> ojii: is there a hardware "quick launch" button ?
[14:33] <ojii> tull no
[14:33] <ojii> acidflash, a what?
[14:33] <Frostic> lewench: did you try reinstalling the drivers?
[14:34] <acidflash> ojii: at the top of the macbook pro, buttons for volume, wireless, play, stop, etc... blue tooth,
[14:34] <ojii> tull, you can only "disable while typing" which just doesn't work at all for me :(
[14:34] <acidflash> anything like that..
[14:34] <lewench> Frostic, no I guess I'll try and do that
[14:34] <lewench> Frostic, Thanks
[14:34] <ojii> acidflash, nothing for touchpad...
[14:34] <acidflash> ojii: how about in bios ? have you look in bios at all ?
[14:34] <tull> ojil, isn't there an option: enable touchpad?
[14:34] <ojii> acidflash, o.O
[14:35] <Frostic> lewench: if that dont help come back
[14:35] <ojii> acidflash, didn't know you could do that in bios
[14:35] <acidflash> ojii: you cant always, its rare but it does exist,
[14:35] <lewench> Frostic, ok
[14:35] <acidflash> ojii: usually in bios you can disable certain hardware on the pc/laptop
[14:35] <ojii> hmm bios sounds better than my other idea I had, a hammer
[14:36] <proximalpha> I'm facing the problem of screen flicker on an HP Pavilion notebook with an nVidia GeForce GO 7400 graphics card. Any help would be appreciated.
[14:36] <Frostic> ojii: lmao i liked the hammer method
[14:36] <ojii> Frostic, seriously this notebook is nothing but annoying me...
[14:36] <Frostic> its more pretty :D
[14:37] <ojii> speaking of macbook pro, i haven't found a way to make the FN keys behave 'normal' (=not-apple-style)
[14:37] <ojii> does anyone know an easy way to get back my F-keys?
[14:38] <jacob__> hey it didnt work :(
[14:39] <ojii> if only there was an option to turn this keyboard into a normal one :(
[14:40] <tull> ojii, what is your model?
[14:40] <ojii> tull, macbook pro
[14:40] <pksadiq> Hello jacob_ what's the problem now?
[14:40] <tull> macbook pro and?
[14:40] <tull> there are some versions of macbook pro
[14:40] <jacob__> My windows 7 partition isnt showing up on Grub, its like its not even there but i know it it because i can access all of the files and everything is in its place thru ubuntu
[14:41] <ojii> tull, it's a macbook pro 4.1
[14:41] <Wazzzaaa> Does somebody know how I can disable 'Gtk-WARNING' messages in Terminal?
[14:41] <pksadiq> Can you load ubuntu?
[14:41] <luckyy75> ciaooooo
[14:41] <luckyy75> !list
[14:42] <jacob__> Yes, although i had to reinstall it to load it, it was like overnight my computer deleted the ability to boot my OS
[14:42] <asac> jacob__: paste your /boot/grub/grub.cfg to http://paste.ubuntu.com
[14:42] <asac> jacob__: and give us url ;)
[14:43] <jacob__> will do just bare with me a sec :)
[14:43] <tull> ojii, have you looked here?  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook4-1/Lucid
[14:44] <ndxtg> If I call ./smthing abc > abc.out , and if the abc.out exists, does it overwrite or append ?
[14:44] <VCoolio> Wazzzaaa: fix your theme maybe; paste the errors to http://paste.ubuntu.com
[14:44] <ojii> tull, currently looking at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AppleKeyboard#Jaunty%20(or%20later?):
[14:44] <asac> jacob__: include my nick in your answer otherwise i wont see most likely ;)
[14:44] <tull> ojii, look to the guide about ubuntu lucid
[14:44] <jacob__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/485448/ Here you go asac
[14:44] <tull> do you have ubuntu lucid?
[14:45] <ojii> tull, i have macbook PRO
[14:45] <ojii> yes this is lucid
[14:45] <tr_> ndxtg, it will overwrite.  use >> to append
[14:45] <tull> ok
[14:45] <tull> good luck!
[14:45] <ndxtg> tr_: :) thank you
[14:46] <pksadiq> Sorry, battery low, I'll be back l8r
[14:46] <tr_> ndxtg:  you're welcome  :)
[14:47] <jacob__> was that any help asac?
[14:49] <tull> can i make a question? Why in battery applet i can see charge information but not the discharge information?
[14:49] <_mrn_ver_> hi all ,as i previously questioned that i m using ubuntu 10.04 and sometimes my screen  blinks like a b&w tv
[14:49] <_mrn_ver_> so what to do:
[14:49] <_mrn_ver_> by sn6: linux video driver
[14:50] <MotheuS> hiii..
[14:50] <_mrn_ver_> but i have installed it from dell support it geives in exe format
[14:50] <_mrn_ver_> i mean i have downloaded it in exe format
[14:50] <mzawieska> any1 know whats the name of the irc chat for movie 3D torrents?
[14:51] <pksadiq> I said battery low, for my mobile phone, not laptop
[14:51] <_mrn_ver_> so it is in helpless.any more suggestions ,please
[14:51] <discozohan> i have one disk for full system, and raid10 for /home directory. So, partition on raid10 should be primary or logical ?
[14:51] <jacob__> asac im going to try something quickly if your still on ill be back soon
[14:52] <BluesKaj> !torrent |mzawieska
[14:52] <Frostic> _mrn_ver_: exe = windows for your video card to work properly with linux you need to find compatable linux drivers
[14:52] <BluesKaj> oops
[14:53] <MotheuS> kopss
[14:53] <BluesKaj> !legal | mzawieska
[14:53] <Wazzzaaa> VCoolio, is there no way to disable the warnings? I know why I get them (I did that by myself)
[14:53] <_mrn_ver_> Frostic: on dell support site only exe formats are available .so how to fix it now
[14:54] <VCoolio> Wazzzaaa: you could launch without error output: command >/dev/null 2>&1
[14:54] <Frostic> _mrn_ver_ search for linux compatable drivers and you wont find them on dells site....
[14:54] <_mrn_ver_> Frostic,  is there any source package which i can run and install it
[14:54] <_mrn_ver_> Frostic: is it risky ? as i downloaded exe format ,browseer at that time warned me about risk
[14:54] <Frostic> wat is your video card ?
[14:55] <VuuuuM> MotheuS naper hacý xD
[14:56] <Frostic> _mrn_ver_: wat video card do you have?
[14:56] <Frostic> _mrn_ver_: you dont want to download .exe files that is for windows only
[14:57] <razerator> VineHQ?
[14:57] <MotheuS> VuuuuM
[14:57] <Frostic> unless your running wine to emulate windows and that wont work well for drivers
[14:57] <MotheuS> burayý myaleme yonledýrmek lazým :X:D
[14:57] <VuuuuM> buyur MotheuS
[14:57] <MotheuS> hahaha
[14:57] <MotheuS> :D
[14:57] <VuuuuM> bunlarýn hepsý gavur xd
[14:57] <Frostic> this is an english only channel please thanks :)
[14:58] <Calinou> !gr VuuuuM
[14:58] <VuuuuM> Frantic ok engilish .
[14:58] <Calinou> !gr
[14:58] <VuuuuM> !gr
[14:58] <VuuuuM> xD
[14:58] <MotheuS> :P
[14:58] <Calinou> if it's not greek... I failed
[14:58] <VuuuuM> ne demek bu MotheuS
[14:58] <VuuuuM> atmak ýcýn oy toplnýo herhal
[14:58] <MotheuS> bilmem vum
[14:58] <Calinou> VuuuuM, this is an english channel !!!
[14:58] <MotheuS> :D
[14:59] <VuuuuM> Calinou yes speak engilih.
[14:59] <Gerwin> Calinou: Turkish, most likely.
[14:59] <VuuuuM> Gerwin sendemý turk ?
[14:59] <Calinou> !tk | VuuuuM
[14:59] <Gerwin> No, also, this is an English channel, talk English here
[14:59] <Gerwin> !tr | VuuuuM
[15:00] <Frostic> _mrn_ver_: did you die?
[15:00] <_mrn_ver_> Frostic: can u suggest me the command  for video discription.i have used lshw and dmesg.i think it is hda intel video
[15:00] <discozohan> Is it correct to create one primary and bootable partition for "/" and another logical non-bootable for swap ?
[15:01] <_mrn_ver_> Frostic, : u get me?
[15:02] <BluesKaj> _mrn_ver_, lspci | grep VGA
[15:02] <Wazzzaaa> VCoolio: I know that I can do that to work around. But just want to disable warnings or send them to a file as alternative.
[15:02] <Frostic> omg you type too fast
[15:02] <VuuuuM> home to : www.trmuhabbet.net
[15:02] <VuuuuM> MotheuS yes mi
[15:02] <Gerwin> VuuuuM: English.
[15:02] <Gerwin> It's really hard, isn't it :<
 _mrn_ver_, lspci | grep VGA <----------- wat he said
[15:03] <_mrn_ver_> Frostic: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
[15:04] <_mrn_ver_> Frostic: that was the output
[15:05] <Frostic> _mrn_ver_: http://www.intel.com/support/graphics/sb/cs-010512.htm
[15:05] <VCoolio> Wazzzaaa: to have output in a file: command > output.file (just replace /dev/null to where you want it)
[15:06] <Wazzzaaa> Yeah, I know.
[15:06] <adi11> hi all. totem is not playing youtube videos anymore. youtube website has changed something on their url. what you guys using until totem get a update?
[15:07] <adi11> is anyone concerned of flash player consuming 100cpu  here?
[15:07] <TiK> uhm I use chrome
[15:07] <Wazzzaaa> I have some Warnings where I have knowledge of. I just want to open GTK apps from terminal without getting 5 warnings. Don't want to type  > /dev/null 2>&1 every time
[15:08] <_mrn_ver_> Frostic: thank you ,now i go for it. see u soon.
[15:08] <DoubleString> guys
[15:08] <DoubleString> if I see that there are updated sources
[15:08] <DoubleString> but ubuntu repo ain't offerint to download it
[15:08] <DoubleString> should I take it or no/
[15:08] <Wazzzaaa> Oke, I changed persmissions on ~/.recently-used.xbel So I don't get the "recent opened documents". Maybe there is a better way to do this?
[15:09] <VCoolio> Wazzzaaa: in .bashrc: alias null='>/dev/null 2>&1'   then just type null behind the command
[15:09] <adi11> is there anyone that dont use flash but still can see youtube videos?
[15:09] <Frostic> _mrn_ver_: http://intellinuxgraphics.org/
[15:09] <Wazzzaaa> lol, nasty :P
[15:09] <dagon666> recently I bought myself "microsoft multimedia keyboard 3000" - does anyone has it and was able to utilize the available multimedia keys ? And yeah - I know Its microsoft :D
[15:10] <Frostic> they got seris 4 chipset drivers
[15:10] <xangua> adi11: what do you mean¿ html5¿
[15:10] <asac> DoubleString: its not clear what you mean by "updated sources", try to rephrase
[15:10] <_mrn_ver_> Frostic: yes ,i got them .
[15:11] <DoubleString> asac
[15:11] <DoubleString> for example there's nautilus 2.29 at my system
[15:11] <DoubleString> yet there's an update 2.31 version for gnome
[15:11] <DoubleString> but
[15:11] <DoubleString> via ubuntu terminal it doesn't show anything
[15:12] <Frostic> :)
[15:12] <DoubleString> so installing manually would be a solution
[15:12] <DoubleString> should I do that/
[15:12] <asac> DoubleString: .31 is a development version ... this will go into ubuntu maverick
[15:12] <Frostic> brb yall smoke break pm me if you need me
[15:12] <DoubleString> or does it need some extra ubuntu mod?
[15:12] <asac> DoubleString: so once maverick is released, upgrade to it
[15:12] <DoubleString> mm
[15:12] <DoubleString> okay
[15:12] <asac> DoubleString: are you on lucid?
[15:12] <DoubleString> thanks
[15:13] <DoubleString> yes
[15:14] <disappearedng__> I am in Multimedia systems selector and after pluggin in my microphone now there's no sound. I tried changing my default input to ALSA and device to default but then there's still no sound anyone can help?
[15:14] <asac> DoubleString: yeah. on lucid you should have 2.30 ...for 2.32 wait till 10th october 2010 and upgrade to ubuntu 10.10;)
[15:14] <DoubleString> asac, it's going to be alpha version?
[15:15] <DoubleString> or is alpha already releaseD?
[15:15] <asac> DoubleString: we have alpha3 released. we are now in beta freeze, so in a few days there will be 10.10 beta
[15:15] <coz_> DoubleString,    https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MaverickReleaseSchedule
[15:15] <ibrahim-kasem>  The update manager is asking me to update my kernel but i have the latest version already ,guys please see this image http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/9058/screenshotbvp.png
[15:15] <DoubleString> thanks
[15:16] <asac> DoubleString: if you are comfortable with upgrading to pre-beta ... you can use sudo update-manager -d ... and hit the upgrade button there. might be a bit of a rough experience, with some packages not working/upgrading etc.
[15:16] <asac> DoubleString: but only do that if you know how to fix broken package states ;)
[15:16] <DoubleString> by the way, will the problem of smb2 when booting system be fixed in maverick?
[15:16] <asac> no clue ;)
[15:16] <coz_> DoubleString,  you can fix that on lucid if you like
[15:16] <asac> dont know that problem :-P
[15:16] <DoubleString> ik that, just don't need that actually :)
[15:16] <DoubleString> ah
[15:16] <coz_> DoubleString,  hold on
[15:16] <DoubleString> coz_, that would be nice
[15:17] <DoubleString> okay
[15:18] <coz_> DoubleString,  mm having issues with gedit hold on
[15:18] <Frostic> im back
[15:18] <DoubleString> no prob ;) I'm not in a hurry
[15:19] <coz_> DoubleString,   ok open   /etc/default/grub
[15:19] <coz_> DoubleString,   of course use  gksudo for th at
[15:19] <DoubleString> continue
[15:20] <asac> coz_: not sure what question you want to answer with editing grub. he just wants to wait for maverick
[15:20] <DoubleString> coz_, continue please :0
[15:21] <coz_> DoubleString,  ok sorry about that  phone... ok  on the line with   =splash quiet
[15:21] <coz_> DoubleString,  make it look like this    GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="splash quiet acpi_enforce_resources=lax"
[15:21] <DoubleString> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"
[15:22] <DoubleString> ok
[15:22] <karmic-koala> hi all, when using enigmail in thunderbird to encrypt email the extension adds a comment to your signature (Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla). Any thoughts on how to change this text?
[15:22] <DoubleString> that's all?
[15:22] <coz_> DoubleString,  yep  now just reboot   it should not show that error now
[15:22] <DoubleString> coz_, so the error is just hidden, yes?
[15:22] <DoubleString> or fixed?
[15:22] <coz_> DoubleString,  at this point  it is ignored
[15:23] <DoubleString> alright
[15:23] <DoubleString> okay, thanks :)
[15:23] <coz_> DoubleString,  at least you dont have to see it  ,,,for fixing it completely   I doubt this does it
[15:23] <DoubleString> ok
[15:23] <coz_> DoubleString,  this is simply to ignore it
[15:24] <DoubleString> ye :)
[15:24] <coz_> DoubleString,  however you can add to the bug report about this or check the bug report to see if it has been solved completely
[15:25] <coz_> DoubleString,   this is the bug report    https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/443113
[15:25] <DdOo> Hello, at start, my network is disable (in network manager), how to enable it at start automatically ?
[15:26] <litercola> can someone help me with my dhcp3 server not starting up on boot
[15:26] <acidflash> update-rc.d chdp3 defaults
[15:26] <acidflash> dhcp3*
[15:26] <sebuba> /etc/init.d/dhcpd start
[15:26] <asac> DdOo: what network type is that? how do you enable it manually?
[15:26] <Frostic> to all: has anyone asked a quetion that has not been answered ?
[15:27] <DoubleString> thanks coz_
[15:27] <litercola> acidflash, was that for me?
[15:27] <acidflash> litercola: yes
[15:27] <DdOo> asac, it's the internet network, with ethernet connection
[15:27] <acidflash> that would add dhcp3 to startup
[15:27] <coz_> DoubleString,   no problem
[15:27] <coz_> DoubleString,  did it work there?
[15:27] <DoubleString> still looking
[15:27] <coz_> DoubleString,  oh ok :)
[15:28] <litercola> cool, syslog says there's no subnet declaration in my dhcpd.conf, but if I do a manual restart it goes okay
[15:28] <jjb123> Hey everyone! So I have a pretty annoying problem. I just upgraded my 9.04 ubuntu server to 10.04 and now whenever I load a php file from some remote browser, it just asks me to download the file (apache isn't passing it to php). Also, ssh broke. I was hoping someone could help me get things running again! Any help would be greatly appreciated!
[15:29] <DdOo> asac, to enable it, i do a right click in the systray icon, and click "Enable network" ("Activer le réseau" in french)
[15:29] <jjb123> Also, no errors in apache's error log, if that helps.
[15:29] <acidflash> litercola: it is starting too early.. i think it is starying before the network card.. thats why
[15:29] <acidflash> litercola: apt-get install rcconf
[15:29] <acidflash> litercola: i think you can change hte order which things start with rcconf
[15:29] <BluesKaj> jjb123, unfortunately you jumped over a release  , when you upgraded , there may be some libs and other important files that are missing
[15:30] <TiK> jjb123: did you install the apache and php package?
[15:30] <coz_> jjb123,   I am not at all good with networking issues  ...two things though... did you try reinstalling apache and necesary additions  and if no one here can help at this time    you co uld also try ##linux channel
[15:30] <litercola> acidflash, thanks thats what I was thinking too, I'll give it a try
[15:30] <asac> DdOo: /var/lib/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.state whats in there?
[15:30] <acidflash> litercola: good luck
[15:30] <jjb123> BluesKaj: Damn, I figured that running apt-get upgrade would just upgrade everything in order
[15:31] <zkriesse> wazup y'all
[15:31] <asac> DdOo: and check /var/log/syslog after booting if there are errors
[15:31] <jjb123> Tik: I just used the option when I was installing the os to set it up as a server
[15:31] <jjb123> coz_: I'll try that
 just english language is allowed
[15:31] <shinzeh> Wow, ubuntu has a support channel.
[15:32] <DdOo> asac, I'm not in the computer with this issue, but thanks for your answer :) I come back
 where is the ubuntu support channel?
[15:32] <shinzeh> Uhm, this?
[15:32] <coz_> jjb123,  cool   ... I know i am a doof at networking so  I dont want to lead you in the wrong direction :)
[15:32] <Jenny-uk> no this is dating channel
[15:32] <shinzeh> Or am I mistaken. :P
[15:32] <shinzeh> Gasp.
[15:32] <BluesKaj> Jenny-uk, stop the joking around
[15:32] <shinzeh> Dating channel for ubuntu ner- I mean masters.
[15:32] <Jenny-uk> :)
[15:33] <zkriesse> Jenny-uk: I'm sorry and who are you?!? I know what this channel is for thank you
[15:33] <BluesKaj> shinzeh, ask your question
[15:33] <acidflash> take it easy guys :)
[15:33] <zkriesse> Jenny-uk: Stop
[15:33] <shinzeh> Nah, I'm just checking some things out.
[15:33] <zkriesse> shinzeh: Well if you need help ask away
[15:34] <shinzeh> I will, thank you.
[15:34] <zkriesse> :)
[15:34] <BluesKaj> acidflash, humour is allowed , but when someone asks for aa support we don't fool around , understand ?
[15:35] <jjb123> Ugh, that didn't work. Looks like I have a long day of reinstall ubuntu
[15:35] <zkriesse> jjb123: Don't get discouraged
[15:35] <zkriesse> jjb123: What is the issue
[15:35] <jjb123> zkeriesse: Meh, that update broke more than it updated.
[15:35] <acidflash> BluesKaj: I dont think saying "which channel" requires that harsh of a response... she wasnt saying "beat it"
[15:36] <BluesKaj> jjb123, did you use a /and a /home partition or just /?
[15:36] <jjb123> zkriesse: I upgraded from 9.04 to 10.04 and now php doesnt work, ssh doesnt work, ftp doesnt work. Apache works and so does mysql, but thats about it
[15:36] <AndresEr>  What firefox addons are known to block REFERER header?
[15:36] <sebuba> Hello, look what I got from a friend of mine these days, that's crazy, it seems a joke http://www.microsoft.com/opensource/
[15:36] <BluesKaj> acidflash, enough already, it's not a debate
[15:36] <jjb123> BluesKaj: There is only 1 partition
[15:36] <shinzeh> Uh, guys, it's okay, really. I know it was just a joke. Anyhow, I'll go for a bit and eat dinner.
[15:36] <zkriesse> jjb123: Hmmm...upgrades tend to do that
[15:37] <acidflash> BluesKaj: exactly, so there was no need to "understand?" me :)
[15:37] <brandom> For some reason zlib completely breaks 10.04. Does that make any sense to anyone?
[15:37] <jjb123> zkriesse: yeah lol, quite the upgrade program they have
[15:37] <coz_> jjb123,  also as I mentioned....try the   ##linux channel   to see if they can offer solutions  sometimes you have to ask at different times here to get the people who have the answers
[15:37] <AndresEr>  What firefox addons are known to block REFERER header?
[15:37] <zkriesse> jjb123: Espcially an upgrade to a distro that is two upgrades up
[15:37] <BluesKaj> ok jjb123 , then a clean reinstall is probly your best option
[15:38] <zkriesse> !patience | AndresEr
[15:38] <coz_> AndresEr, ` mm not sure  you might want to try #firefox  maybe  ..yes?
[15:38] <anonymous50> hi im using 64-bit ubuntu 10.04 desktop edition, and i was wondering how to get the mouse movement to be equal to windows mouse movement settings
[15:38] <jjb123> yeah, that's what im thinking. For future reference how do I use sudo apt-get upgrade without completely bricking my computer
[15:38] <AndresEr> thank you, sorry for repeating
[15:38] <zkriesse> jjb123: Carefully lol
[15:38] <jjb123> lol
[15:38] <coz_> anonymous50,   can you explain that  a little more in detail?
[15:38] <imfede> ragazzi in velocità: ho una chiavetta usb da due gb la inserisco ma non succede niente, ma se do lsusb la riconosce. come ci accedo?
[15:39] <shinzeh> I think he's talking about the sensitivity of the mouse.
[15:39] <zkriesse> jjb123: Just update regular
[15:39] <imfede> sorry wrong chan
[15:39] <vipinb> pleas anyone help me . i;m getting " pulseaudio[14089]: ratelimit.c: 113 events suppressed" .This message is populating syslog
[15:39] <anonymous50> like when i move the mouse, its a lot different then windows
[15:39] <anonymous50> its not sensitivity
[15:39] <jjb123> zkriesse: how do I do that? I thought apt-get was the only way to do it
[15:39] <jjb123> do you mean with a cd or something?
[15:39] <coz_> anonymous50,  did you go into   system/preferences/mouse   to make some changes that suit you better?
[15:39] <zkriesse> jjb123: How to what upgrade?
[15:40] <xangua> anonymous50: edit your mouse setting then - system>administration>mouse
[15:40] <zkriesse> jjb123: Pm its busy in here
[15:40] <coz_> !pm
[15:40] <zkriesse> jjb123: Or /join #ubuntu-beginners
[15:40] <Yaron-Heb_> is there a special room for translators?
[15:41] <david-suisse> hello
[15:41] <coz_> Yaron-Heb_, mmm  that is an excellent question  i would like to know also :)
[15:41] <jk_> jjb123, just remember to always go one version at a time. had you gone from 9.04 to 9.10 and then from 9.10 to 10.04, you would have had no more problems than the rest of us <g>!
[15:41] <Yaron-Heb_> coz_: lol thanks!
[15:41] <coz_> Yaron-Heb_,  maybe   #ubuntu-devel  might be able to help there
[15:41] <anonymous50> yes i tried that but its still not the same, for example, when i move the mouse slowly in windows, it moves say 10 pixels, when i move it the same in ubuntu, it moves 20 pixels, and when i move the mouse fast in windows, it moves 200 pixels, and in ubuntu 100 pixels
[15:42] <anonymous50> i meant i tried changing the mouse settings but its still not right
[15:42] <jjb123> jk_: Right, but how do you tell it to do that? I just ran an innocent apt-get upgrade
[15:42] <coz_> anonymous50,  mm  I  have both windows and ubuntu installed and I prefer the ubuntu "style"  for this but as I said  that diaglog should be able to match it pretty close
[15:42] <vipinb> Hi all
[15:43] <topyli> Yaron-Heb_: #ubuntu-translators of course :)
[15:43] <coz_> brb  nature call :)
[15:43] <vipinb> please anyone help me . i'm getting " pulseaudio[14089]: ratelimit.c: 113 events suppressed" .This message is populating syslog
[15:43] <BluesKaj> !il | Yaron-Heb_ , there is an israeli chat , here
[15:44] <Yaron-Heb_> BluesKaj, thanks, I'm aware of that :)
[15:45] <Yaron-Heb_> Does anyone know what the deadline for maverick translations?
[15:45] <brandom> Does anyone know of a solution for the AR9285? It drops packets like no tomorrow. I tried bleeding edge compat-wireless and some in between. Anyone have any other ideas?
[15:46] <joshritger> How do I disable the low battery notification, I am using Lubuntu and there is no option in power managment? I can remove the icon from the system tray, but the notification still is there
[15:46] <BluesKaj> ok Yaron-Heb_ , try #ubuntu+1 for maverick
[15:46] <bobo123> do I have some problem with a devicedriver or a settings somewhere in my ubuntu-installation? burning a dvd goes extremely slow...
[15:46] <bobo123> while it was burning (a normal DVD+R) ubuntu said "3522 KB/s (2.6x)". and I haven't changed burningspeed or anything so it was set to max
[15:46] <bobo123> (and btw the only options there are "6x" spin and "max". And my dvd-discs are 16X...
[15:46] <Yaron-Heb_> BluesKaj, thanks! you've been really helpful to me :)
[15:47] <BluesKaj> hehe, Yaron-Heb_
[15:47] <FredFlintstone> what is the channel for asking about best apps?
[15:47] <coz_> Yaron-Heb_,  yes   #ubuntu+1  channel or even  #ubuntu-devel  for info on translations
[15:47] <jk_> jjb123, I don't do apt-get upgrades, just use the GUI Update Manager. It won't skip revisions.
[15:47] <Yaron-Heb_> i'll sure try them both, thank you all!
[15:48] <houserockr> is there any way to influence the compositing behavior of metacity (i.e. the built-in compositing of metacity)? I would like to disable thumbnails in the window-switcher (ALT+TAB)???
[15:48] <c2leader> i need help..
[15:49] <shinzeh> Excuse me,  is there a linux-equivalent of visual basic?
[15:49] <BluesKaj> !ask |c2leader
[15:49] <coz_> houserockr,  I dont know the answer to that one ... let me search
[15:49] <bobo123> houserockr: hmm.. I don't have thumbnail-images when I press Alt-Tab, pehaps I have turned them off
[15:49] <diva_1> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1563578
[15:50] <houserockr> bobo123: yep i think then you have it turned off
[15:50] <houserockr> i mean, thumbnails in the window-switcher are a nice feature, as long as they don't need five minutes to be created at first
[15:50] <muellisoft> shinzeh: Brainfuck. Weird syntax, not capable of anything out of the box, but it's probably not as slow.. hrm.
[15:50] <BluesKaj> shinzeh, take a look at mono
[15:51] <shinzeh> Thanks. :)
[15:51] <brandom> Does anyone know of a solution for the Atheros AR9285? It drops packets like no tomorrow. I've tried bleeding edge compat-wireless and some in between. Anyone have any other ideas?
[15:51] <cemc> can I install ubuntu 10.04.1 i386 desktop from a netboot usb stick?
[15:51] <bobo123> yeah those kind of features should be off by default, but easy to turn on for people that likes 'cewl gadgets' (like the desktopcube etc)
[15:51] <thune3> brandom: i don't know anything specific to that wireless card. more generally you can tune tune retry and frag parameters if iwconfig. Set the interface speed to something lower and possibly modify your position/antenna. I like using "ping -A -c 50 -s 1472 <yourgateway> | grep loss" as a test to run for gauging packet loss.
[15:51] <Routers> cemc : why dont u use windows installer
[15:51] <BluesKaj> shinzeh, http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Mono-brings-Visual-Basic-programs-to-Linux/
[15:52] <cemc> Routers: no windows? :-)
[15:52] <geirha> houserockr: gconf-editor -> /apps/metacity/general/  There's an option called reduced_resources, maybe that'll do what you want?
[15:52] <Routers> cemc : okay.. u cant save to ur usb stick or cd burning
[15:52] <brandom> thune3: Thanks. That's what I was looking for is some way of "tuning" it, just couldn't think of a way to put it. I'll give it a try. Thanks!
[15:53] <Oer> cemc yes you can use usb to install
[15:53] <houserockr> geirha: nope, unfortunately, this doesn't turn off the thumbnails
[15:53] <shinzeh> Oh, just tabbed out, thanks blues.
[15:53] <c2leader> ok, i used ubuntu for a long time, since i hated windows for not working 10000 times, but i was forced to install win7..i knew grub will be overwritten, but i got over that 100 times without a problem..but i forgot that ubuntu 10.4 uses grub 2..i found a tutorial but installation proces stops at the point where terminal tells me there is not enough space on MBR or something..i don't know what to do..
[15:53] <FredFlintstone> what is the channel for asking about best apps?
[15:53] <cemc> Oer: I know I can, but what about a netboot install?
[15:54] <cemc> Oer: I don't want to create an usb startup disk, just copy initrd.img and linux on it, and then install from that. I tried but it only installed server I think
[15:54] <coz_> c2leader,  have you looked here    http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide
[15:54] <xangua> FredFlintstone: !offtopic ¿
[15:54] <Oer> cemc netboot install is running a installation with the source on an other computer, tru network
[15:54] <jellow> FredFlintstone: ubuntu-offtopic or even in here
[15:55] <cemc> Oer: I know
[15:55] <BluesKaj> !best | FredFlintstone
[15:55] <thune3> brandom: also, txpower is something to look at. it's sometimes an inverse tradeoff: more tx power can mean less recieve sensitivity.
[15:55] <FredFlintstone> what is the channel for asking about best apps where a bot tells you what is?
[15:55] <Oer> cemc use unetbootin to put the iso on the usbstick
[15:55] <disappearedng__> Hey you think maverick meerkat is really buggy now? My laptop (Sony Vaio) isn't really going so well with 10.04 and I want to try 10.10 to see if my mic and like brightness issues will be fixed
[15:55] <BluesKaj> FredFlintstone, sees above
[15:56] <BluesKaj> disappearedng__, ask in #ubuntu+1
[15:56] <cemc> Oer: which iso ?
[15:56] <Oer> cemc you said 10.04.1
[15:57] <cemc> Oer: but if i but ubuntu-desktop.iso on it, that's not a netboot install, is it ?
[15:57] <FredFlintstone> hmm that channel is not answering, so what is the best pdf viewer?
[15:58] <coz_> FredFlintstone,  are you on gnome or kde?
[15:58] <paulmain> I need better resolution than 800x600, and had it in Gutsy; did a fresh lucid install on this box and now I've got bad resolution
[15:58] <brandom> thune3: Right now it reports 20 dBm - do you have a suggested starting place for tuning this setting? My signal is excellent so perhaps I could back in off, or up it? Do you know a good guide for general iwconfig tuning?
[15:59] <Muelli> paulmain: hm. does gnome-display-properties not show more resolutions?
[15:59] <paulmain> Muelli, no
[16:00] <pksadiq> Are you using nvidia drivers?
[16:00] <coz_> FredFlintstone,  if you are on gnome  evince should work half decent which is already installled ifhowever you are on kde  then okular is probably the best  in my opinion
[16:00] <paulmain> pksadiq, no
[16:00] <FredFlintstone> gnome
[16:00] <coz_> FredFlintstone,  there are alternatives  on gnome  let me check
[16:01] <pksadiq> Then , are you having intel processor?
[16:01] <Muelli> paulmain:  :-( Driver issues then, I guess... Maybe there is smth interesting in /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[16:02] <FredFlintstone> in windows most use adobe acrobat, i am new to linux, anyone use adobe in linux? i think i'd rather have a leaner meaner app than adobe stuff
[16:02] <coz_> FredFlintstone,  well evince is already installed  you could try  foxit reader for linux  however . although it is nice it not actually an installed application it is a modular one or rather you just click the executable ...
[16:02] <Annoyed> Greetings. Any consice online reference for Grub 1.98 as installed on Ubuntu 10.04 ? I need to do two things. Remove a menu entry and pass options to different OS kernel ( OS X, this is a hackintosh box also.  I sort of got the hang of editing raw grub.conf files on Gentoo... but this distro seems to script everything
[16:02] <pksadiq> Are you using ubuntu?
[16:02] <lawllll> sup
[16:02] <lawllll> ubuntu
[16:02] <lawllll> hows u doin
[16:03] <TiK> Annoyed: /etc/default/grub
[16:03] <coz_> FredFlintstone,  best thing to do ...and I dont like to suggest this always... is to google  with   linux pdf readers  or  ubuntu pdf readers
[16:03] <TiK> is the file you edit
[16:03] <FredFlintstone> it says document viewer right now, ubuntu 10.04 default i guess
[16:03] <pksadiq> There is a default  document viewer in ubuntu
[16:03] <TiK> ubuntu comes with a pdf reader......
[16:03] <DdOo> asac, Thanks a lot (without any change it works again… O_o)
[16:03] <coz_> FredFlintstone,  right
[16:03] <houserockr> the default is evince iirc
[16:03] <VCoolio> FredFlintstone: that's evince, is good; try epdfviewer too or mupdf or zathura
[16:03] <coz_> FredFlintstone,  that would be   evince
[16:04] <FredFlintstone> i want more zoom features
[16:04] <Annoyed> TiK Thanks, gimme a few to look there.
[16:04] <FredFlintstone> this documnet  reader sems limited
[16:04] <Magnetro> I'm trying to figure out how to unzip my
[16:04] <coz_> FredFlintstone,   look here   http://www.foxitsoftware.com/pdf/desklinux/
[16:04] <Magnetro> ROMs and play them on my emulators any ideas on how?
[16:04] <houserockr> however, adobe reader has a remarkable advantage: its extended search in several documents
[16:05] <coz_> FredFlintstone,  yes you could always install the adobe reader  I think it is in the repositories but not sure I never use it
[16:05] <xangua> FredFlintstone: install adobe reader then, i believe is in !partner repository
[16:05] <KalEl> i have an nvidia card, and i want to upgrade to ati radeon. will there be any problem in the ubuntu 10.04 setup? will i still be able to see all the eye candy?
[16:06] <BluesKaj> !acroread
[16:06] <Annoyed> TiK : Any good online docs for that file? That looks like just a basic skelton
[16:07] <mhall119> anybody know of an easy way to resize a vmdk disk image file without having vmware installed?
[16:07] <liunx> KalEl: I think you will need reconfigure the graphic card ,again
[16:08] <FredFlintstone> i am gonna try a bunch, that doesn't bloat / slow the OS like windows does it? (installing many things)
[16:08] <KalEl> thank yo linux
[16:08] <KalEl> thank you linux
[16:08] <liunx> KalEl: when you enter into the system with ati card, again
[16:08] <KalEl> i heard there is some trouble with one of the graphic card vendors, i do not recall if it was nvidia or ati - so i was a bit worried
[16:08] <KalEl> regarding drivers
[16:09] <BluesKaj> FredFlintstone, check out acroread on your package manager
[16:09] <liunx> KalEl: it will in a unconfigure vga card state, because the driver can not fit the card
[16:09] <KalEl> ok
[16:09] <Annoyed> Question.. installed Grub on this machine is 1.98... online docs seem to think this /etc/defaults/grub is for Grub 2
[16:10] <Magnetro> Can anyone please tell me how to unzip files/ where to put them so I can play my ROMs..?
[16:10] <FredFlintstone> BluesKaj, not found
[16:10] <liunx> KalEl:so you need run the harddriver program in your system to reconfigure your card
[16:10] <KalEl> i use the proprietary driver for nvidia - is there a good driver for ati radeon as well?
[16:10] <KalEl> oh ok
[16:10] <KalEl> harddriver - i will remember that - thank you
[16:11] <liunx> yes, amd's open source card driver work well
[16:11] <mercury^> Hey, I am trying to my mouse buttons. I added an InputClass section in xorg.conf and it seems to match my physical device. ButtonMapping however seems to have no effect.
[16:11] <jk_> Annoyed, the 1.98 is called "grub 2" by most of us. It's the latest.
[16:11] <FredFlintstone> all the suggestions failed to be found by sudo apt-get install, did i do it wrong? im a noob
[16:11] <Annoyed> Oh, ok... It's not as if they could have it make sense, after all. :P
[16:11] <Magnetro> linux: can you help me learn how to unzip files/ where to put them so I may play my ROMs?
[16:11] <mercury^> (using xinput set-button-map works)
[16:11] <liunx> KalEl: but nvidia's card driver is really in a good performance than amd's driver
[16:11] <BluesKaj> FredFlintstone, enable the canonical partners and other software sources in your package manager
[16:12] <liunx> KalEl: but now, ati driver is get better and better
[16:12] <KalEl> hmm i see
[16:12] <liunx> :KalEl: so, try it!
[16:12] <KalEl> will i be able to play games with it?
[16:13] <KalEl> america's army?
[16:13] <Annoyed> Magnetro: Aren't the files visible with the file manager? You should be able to right click and open with archive manager
[16:13] <KalEl> i had an 8600GTS, planning to buy ATI 5770
[16:13] <brizzio>  /quit
[16:13] <brizzio> exit
[16:13] <KalEl> (because ATI seems to provide good performance/price ratio according to online specs)
[16:13] <liunx> KalEl: i think your trouble is that when you change the card(but not configure it), you will get a in low graphic mode screen
[16:13] <Magnetro> Annoyed and from there?
[16:14] <KalEl> but once i put the right driver, then i think i should be able to play america's army with full detail
[16:14] <liunx> KalEl:yeah, just like the amd cpus
[16:14] <KalEl> (i hope)
[16:14] <Magnetro> I'm completely new to linux; and Windows whipped.
[16:14] <bobo123> are there som DMA-settings in ubuntu that might be wrong or something that causes the dvd-burner go so slow? (I think that is a problem that accour in Windows) ?
[16:14] <Annoyed> Dunno... dunno what a ROM file is. AFAIK, ROM = Read Only Memory.. But once you decompress them, you should be able to read them as normal
[16:15] <edbian> Magnetro, What is your problem?  Can I help?
[16:15] <Magnetro> how do you decompress them?
[16:15] <KalEl> well thanks a lot liunx
[16:15] <Guest82189> I have a unique problem. I forgot my password, used some online help and ended up changing my password.  Didnt work and low and behold, I remembered my password and now can only get to a frozen desktop..  ONLY function I can preform is right click taskbar..  Panel properties comes up and says "Some of these properties are locked down"  What to do??
[16:15] <liunx> KalEl: yes, i think you will
[16:15] <Annoyed> Magnetro: Aren't the files visible with the file manager? You should be able to right click and open with archive manager
[16:15] <edbian> Annoyed, A rom file typically refers to an image of a game.
[16:15] <liunx> KalEl: but i am more confident with nvidia's card ^_^
[16:15] <Annoyed> Oh, so he might have to mount them
[16:16] <TuxOtaku> hey guys, I'm having some trouble getting a usb to vga adapter running on Ubuntu karmic
[16:16] <liunx> KalEl: sure
[16:16] <Magnetro> I opened them with archive manager but they are just blank paper looking files.
[16:16] <edbian> Magnetro, Why would you want to decompress them?  Just feed the rom to your emulator
[16:16] <liunx> KalEl: good luck
[16:16] <KalEl> ty
[16:16] <Magnetro> there as a zip file
[16:16] <n0a1ias> is there a vnc channel
[16:16] <edbian> Guest82189, Can you open a terminal?
[16:16] <Magnetro> I don't know how to feed it to my emulator.
[16:16] <edbian> Guest82189, Are you logged in to the system normally right now?  Do you know the password?  Please clarify
[16:17] <Guest82189> edbian Cannot do anything except what was mentio ed...
[16:17] <qwd> Can someone explain how to setup my empty 2tb har drive in order for it to be as if it had been there during installation? I want to use LVM, encryption, 4096 byte sectors and have it mounted at startup.
[16:17] <Guest82189> I am logged in and at my desktop
[16:17] <Guest82189> I remembered my old password and used it to log on but the desktop seems to be "locked up"
[16:17] <shylent> is it possible at all to install, say, 10.04 over 9.04 without wiping the home partition (obviously, I do have home on a separate partition). I mean, surely it *is* possible, but will the system work afterwards? :P
[16:18] <Guest82189> what are the key commands to bring up a terminal?
[16:18] <edbian> Guest82189, So is the only thing you're looking to fix the "some things are locked" on the panel menu?  Or are there other things?
[16:18] <edbian> Guest82189, alt + F2 then type in gnome-terminal
[16:18] <ant2010> is this the correct channel to get help from
[16:18] <Guest82189> edbian ALL things are locked up......   OK  I got in the terminal
[16:19] <mcl0vin> howdy
[16:19] <Guest82189> edbian  oh thank you  thank you  so what do I try now?
[16:19] <BluesKaj> shylent, you have to either do a clean install or upgrade to 9.10, then upgrade to 10.04
[16:19] <Magnetro> Do I feed my emulators my ROMs as just zip files..?
[16:19] <Magnetro> because it's not working.
[16:20] <edbian> Guest82189, Hah, before we can fix it I need a better idea of what the problem is.  When you say all things are locked up it is conflicting with the fact that the teriminal works.
[16:20] <edbian> Guest82189, Try opening different apps at the terminal. try "firefox"  then ctrl + c to close it.  Then try "nautilus"
[16:20] <edbian> Guest82189, Do you actually change your password?  What did you do while you were trying before you remembered the old password?
[16:21] <Guest82189> edbian I know. sorry newbie and I got excited'  I cant do anything with the system      what I think I need to do is see a list of All users on the acct and remove the one I changed??
[16:21] <ant2010> i dont suppose somebody can help me install this compro s350 dvb card its a pain
[16:21] <Guest82189> edbian  I was using this laptop.. The issue is on my desktop
[16:21] <shylent> BluesKaj: well, Id rather not do two dist-upgrades. I was wondering if it was possible to just leave the home partition there during the installation (without formatting it, I am pretty sure alternate install can do that. maybe not, though). Obviously I have everything backed up, etc etc so I can just do a "clean" install and copy my stuff over to the new home
[16:21] <edbian> Guest82189, sudo cat /etc/passwd    will list all the usrs.
[16:22] <edbian> Guest82189, Be warned many of them won't be intuitive users.  The users that you added will be at the very bottom.  I assure you they are all users though.
[16:22] <Guest82189> enbian ok.. it only shows me    I am the only user of the sys.. but how do I get the changed password that I forgot also?
[16:22] <mcl0vin> is there a way i can run vbox in box and setup my virtual machine , then pull that machine from a different box?
[16:23] <Guest82189> edbian  I am sure that I am the only user but what do I do here??
[16:23] <edbian> Guest82189, You cannot read the passwords from anywhere on the system.  They only location is /etc/shadow which stores them encrypted.  If you could read them plain text it would be a security flaw ;)
[16:24] <edbian> Guest82189, You can only have 1 password at a time.  I'm curious, do you have the old password or the new one?  You say you logged in with the old one but now you want to change the new one?
[16:24] <timpster> HELLO
[16:24] <timpster> dfj
[16:24] <timpster> dasf
[16:24] <timpster> dfas
[16:24] <timpster> sdfa
[16:24] <timpster> fsda
[16:24] <timpster> sdfa
[16:24] <timpster> sdf
[16:24] <timpster> dfs
[16:24] <timpster> dsf
[16:24] <timpster> fsd
[16:24] <timpster> sdf
[16:24] <timpster> dfs
[16:24] <ilovefairuz> mcl0vin: you could copy the config files and the disk file (or just the disk file and redo the config but you're going to need to delete your persistent network udev rules because the VM will think a new adapter was added)
[16:24] <timpster> dfs
[16:24] <timpster> dfs
[16:24] <ilovefairuz> !ops
[16:24] <timpster> dsfd
[16:24] <timpster> fsds
[16:24] <bobo123> hello timpster. instead of writing crap, do you know anything about dvd-burning?
[16:24] <timpster> fsdf
[16:24] <bouboul-iv> hi all
[16:24] <edbian> wow that's annoying
[16:24] <timpster> dfs
[16:24] <timpster> df
[16:25] <bouboul-iv> Who is french ?
[16:25] <Guest82189> edbian yea I understand that...  I forgot the original from lack of use.. Changed it with online help which only made it worst.  Now I rem the original and logged on to a desktop that I can t  do anything with.
[16:25] <edbian> Guest82189, You're still there?
[16:25] <ilovefairuz> !fr | bouboul-iv
[16:25] <bouboul-iv> !fr ilovefairuz
[16:25] <bouboul-iv> !fr timpster
[16:25] <mcl0vin> ilovefairuz: i don't understand
[16:25] <edbian> Guest82189, You must not have changed the password. (but did manage to mess with things).  You can only have one password at a time.  If you changed it somehow then only the new one would work.
[16:25] <FredFlintstone> evince is apparently installed, but when i try to set it in opens with, it isnt there, what the _ ?
[16:26] <edbian> Guest82189, What did you do to "change" it? I'm curious of that process.
[16:26] <edbian> Guest82189, As a guess, can you type ls -la in the terminal and pastebin the output?
[16:26] <BluesKaj> shylent, I'm not sure , but the /home apps should be ok  if you take that route.
[16:27] <shylent> BluesKaj: yea, I see. thanks
[16:27] <Guest82189> the how did I get into the desktop with the old one??  I used google and used a forgot password..  I forget the terminal prompt used
[16:28] <Guest82189> edbian  I got the ls -la up but cant open a browser, cant see the app menu cant see anything on desktop..
[16:28] <ilovefairuz> mcl0vin: if you create a VM on machine A, then copy the disk file (the file containing the partitions of the VM) to machine B  and create a new VM pointing to that disk file, it will work but with the side effect that the network interfaces inside the VM will be renamed (will be eth1 instead of eth0)
[16:28] <Guest82189> what is keys for opening firefox
[16:28] <edbian> Guest82189, Does the old password work?
[16:29] <edbian> Guest82189, there are no keys, you can type "firefox" at the term.
[16:29] <Guest82189> I logged in with old password
[16:29] <edbian> Guest82189, I know that.  Have you ever tested the new password?
[16:29] <edbian> Guest82189, See the personal message I sent you?
[16:29] <mcl0vin> ilovefairuz: oh NO...i was thinking if there was like a vbox client ! server type of thing you know
[16:29] <Guest82189> edbian ok hold on
[16:30] <edbian> Guest82189, Take your time
[16:30] <ilovefairuz> mcl0vin: there's a web interface to remotely control virtual machines
[16:30] <Guest82189> edbian I am using my laptop to talk to you
[16:30] <Guest82189> cant paste
[16:30] <mcl0vin> ilovefairuz: how do i get it please
[16:30] <edbian> Guest82189, Oh boy.  Type a bunch of it.
[16:31] <Guest82189> edbian ok  h/o
[16:31] <edbian> Guest82189, Talk to me in the private chat though.
[16:31] <bouboul-iv_> fr
[16:31] <bouboul-iv_> who is fr ?
[16:31] <bouboul-iv_> !fr
[16:31] <edbian> Guest82189, See the personal message I sent you?  Type it in over there.  do NOT type it into the channel here.
[16:31] <ilovefairuz> mcl0vin: http://code.google.com/p/vboxweb/
[16:32] <mcl0vin> ilovefairuz: thank you sir
[16:32] <ilovefairuz> bouboul-iv_: write: /join #ubuntu-fr
[16:33] <Magnetro> does anyone know how to set the keys on the zsnes emulator from repo?
[16:33] <ant2010> Anybody good with drivers lol
[16:33] <ilovefairuz> !details | ant2010
[16:35] <ant2010> well im quite new.. i have the latest ubuntu just downloaded and installed.. i have a compro s350 dvb-s card, that i am trying to configure to run with mythtv or kaffein, i am having trouble getting the card to load non of the applications detect it, i have googled how to install it people have managed to do it using patches etc, i followed the guide and i just still cant get it to work
[16:36] <ilovefairuz> ant2010: what's the link to that guide? and open a terminal, pastebin: lshw -C display
[16:36] <ilovefairuz> !paste | ant2010
[16:39] <ghostnik11> hi i am trying to put linux on a old ibm laptop, i think it is a t20 but the thing is it has a bios password and hard drive password that i dont know, i figured i could just try and get into
[16:40] <ghostnik11> it buy putting linux on floopy disk and booting it
[16:40] <ant2010> ubutto http://paste.ubuntu.com/485483/
[16:40] <ant2010> and this is the guide ubuttu http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1051265&page=4
[16:40] <cheasee> is ext4 ready so far to use in production environment or should i stick with ext3 ?
[16:41] <ilovefairuz> cheasee: yes it is, google uses it
[16:41] <ilovefairuz> ant2010: pastebin: lshw
[16:41] <cheasee> ilovefairuz, is there a big difference in performance to use ext4?
[16:42] <ilovefairuz> cheasee: yes, it improved significantly
[16:42] <ant2010> did you get that ubuttu t
[16:43] <cheasee> ilovefairuz, heh ok then ill try ext4 now instead usualy ext3 :) thanks
[16:43] <itsux2bu> does linux version of unetbootin format a usb pendrive?
[16:43] <wildc4rd> afternoon all!
[16:43] <acidflash> ilovefairuz: are you familiar with the ins and outs of both fs ?
[16:43] <ilovefairuz> itsux2bu: no, you'll need to format is before using unetbootin, right-click on its icon on the desktop and select format
[16:44] <itsux2bu> does usb pendrives need to mounted?
[16:44]  * h4kB0x is so happy that he finally got ubuntu to be the official boot partition on his macbook pro!
[16:45] <madf0x> itsux2bu yes but generally ubuntu does this auto-for you
[16:45] <ghostnik11> can you install ubuntu through a floopy disk or at least run ubuntu from a floopy disk
[16:45] <ilovefairuz> acidflash: general usage only
[16:46] <itsux2bu> madf0x, i'm in file browser.. how do i find it?
[16:46] <madf0x> ghostnik11 only if you can show me a floppy that can hold that large of an iso o.O
[16:46] <ilovefairuz> itsux2bu: yes it needs to be mounted for unetbootin
[16:46] <itsux2bu> ilovefairuz, how do i mount in gnome?
[16:46] <ilovefairuz> ghostnik11: no you can't, you'll need to reset your bios or call support
[16:46] <ilovefairuz> itsux2bu: it should be automounted when you plug it in
[16:47] <ghostnik11> madfx0x: i figured that much but this is an old laptop and i cant get into it
[16:47] <itsux2bu> it was already plugges in
[16:47] <itsux2bu> *plugged
[16:47] <madf0x> ghostnik11 all my floppys are 1.44MB, DSL wouldnt even fit
[16:47] <ilovefairuz> itsux2bu: plug it out and back in
[16:48] <madf0x> ghostnik11 but you can always try a networked install or swap out the hard drive to a machine that can install normally
[16:48] <ghostnik11> madf0x: damn then i have to figure out a way to get into the bios and hard drive then install
[16:48] <ghostnik11> madf0x: how would i go about a networked install
[16:49] <jaws> #ubuntu
[16:49] <nauthiz> hi all
[16:49] <madf0x> ghostnik11 I dont know exactly, but if you look for networked booting you should find a process that will lead you to figuring it out
[16:50] <nauthiz> does anybody have a second to help me compiling a geany-release? i never compiled a program before :(
[16:50] <ilovefairuz> ghostnik11: none of these options will get beyond a BIOS password
[16:50] <ilovefairuz> !compile | nauthiz
[16:50] <ghostnik11> madf0x: okay even though i cant get into hard drive or bios
[16:50] <madf0x> ghostnik11 cause youll want to have a remote boot from a comp that has the livecd and what not, and then run the install that way
[16:50] <jimcooncat> where to find md5 or sha for ubuntu-10.04.1-desktop-i386.iso ?
[16:50] <ilovefairuz> nauthiz: look for a PPA first
[16:50] <madf0x> ghostnik11 oh! diff story
[16:51] <madf0x> ghostnik11 like a startup pass?
[16:51] <ghostnik11> ilovefairuz: thats the thing the bios password is thr problem
[16:51] <ZykoticK9> !md5sums | jimcooncat
[16:51] <ant2010> ubottu did you look at the dvb
[16:51] <nauthiz> thanks, I'll try this first
[16:52] <ilovefairuz> jimcooncat: http://releases.ubuntu.com/lucid/SHA1SUMS
[16:52] <ghostnik11> madf0x: what is a startup pass?
[16:52] <jimcooncat> thanks ZykoticK9, ilovefairuz
[16:52] <ilovefairuz> ghostnik11: you'll need to reset the bios, nothing else will get you beyond the password
[16:52] <madf0x> ghostnik11 a BIOS pass you must enter before allowing the boot process to commence
[16:53] <edbian> madf0x, Some bios passwords are only required to change bios settings.  Not to boot.
[16:53] <Some_Person> What would you recommend for an old machine with a 1.5 GHz processor and 768MB of RAM? Hard drive space is currently unknown, and the video card is some nvidia thing. Also, will a serial mouse work with ubuntu?
[16:53] <Jeandre> Suggestions for a file manager replacement for Nautilus for 10.04 LTS that allows right dragging, making shortcuts, etc.? PCMan won't do becasue it won't allow me to even left drag a file to move it to another directory.
[16:53] <edbian> Some_Person, Ubuntu should be ok.
[16:53] <madf0x> ghostnik11 look up how to reset the BIOS via clearing the CMOS, be careful though
[16:53] <RickiiBETA> can someone help me with changing my default folders?
[16:54] <ghostnik11> madf0x: thanks i will do
[16:54] <ilovefairuz> Some_Person: sounds standard ubuntu would be fine
[16:54] <madf0x> edbian I know that but he says he can't even access the HDD which means it isnt a simple bios settings pass, but a full out startup pass
[16:54] <edbian> RickiiBETA, What are your default folders?  I can help you change them if I know what they are.
[16:54] <edbian> madf0x, ahhh  I see.
[16:55] <madf0x> ghostnik11 but good luck if you are using a laptop :( these things don't like their hardware to be messed with. I had one that wouldnt physically let me get to the cpu without busting the motherboard x.x
[16:55] <Rahmat> hello
[16:56] <RickiiBETA> documetns, music, pictures, videos, downloads
[16:56] <ilovefairuz> !hi | Rahmat
[16:56] <edbian> RickiiBETA, Just rename them?
[16:56] <edbian> RickiiBETA, What is the issue here?
[16:56] <RickiiBETA> i want to change their location
[16:56] <edbian> RickiiBETA, Move them?  click and drag
[16:56] <RickiiBETA> i tried it with ubuntu tweak
[16:57] <Rahmat> i find aplications to broadcast my radio
[16:57] <edbian> RickiiBETA, They're not special for any reason.  They're just folders with those names.
[16:57] <Rahmat> like Sam Broadcast
[16:57] <Rahmat> or other
[16:57] <RickiiBETA> i want to change the dir they reference
[16:58] <edbian> RickiiBETA, What?  They reference themselves?
[16:58] <Jeandre> RickiiBETA: Are you talking about keeping the entries under the "Places" menu to still work after moving them?
[16:58] <ilovefairuz> !info idjc | Rahmat
[16:58] <edbian> RickiiBETA, Like I said before.  There is nothing special about those folders.  I deleted all of them on my system and I organize using my own system.
[16:58] <edbian> RickiiBETA, Yes is that it?  What Jeandre said?
[16:59] <RickiiBETA> http://imgur.com/90yod.png
[16:59] <RickiiBETA> yes
[16:59] <paulmain> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205449  Down near the bottom (search for "how to get AC'97") is the boat I'm in, yet I staill can't get sound out my speakers.  ANyone heard anything else on trouble getting (this is aplay-l output) card 0: V8237 [VIA 8237], device 0: VIA 8237 [VIA 8237] wotking?
[16:59] <edbian> RickiiBETA, mmmm I see.  If you want a folder to show up in placed and on the left side of folder windows just drag it there.
[16:59] <edbian> RickiiBETA, Ubuntu Tweak is intentionally confusing for some reason.
[17:00] <RickiiBETA> for example, i want the folder "downloads" under places to point to my downloads folder on a seperate drive
[17:00] <edbian> RickiiBETA, Those folders are not special.  Delete them.  No other app cares about their existence.
[17:00] <Jeandre> Suggestions for a file manager replacement for Nautilus for 10.04 LTS that allows right dragging, making shortcuts, etc.? PCMan won't do becasue it won't allow me to even left drag a file to move it to another directory.
[17:00] <edbian> RickiiBETA, Then go to the downloads folder on the other drive and click and drag that folder onto the left side of the window with the other places folders.
[17:00] <RickiiBETA> in the ss, the folders in tweak are what i am trying to change them to
[17:00] <oliver_> after I installed the propitary nvidia drivers and boot up the computer the logo had very low resolution and not fullscreen, how can i fix it? heeeelp
[17:00] <ilovefairuz> paulmain: pastebin: lshw -C multimedia
[17:00] <RickiiBETA> ah.
[17:01] <RickiiBETA> that's what i wanted
[17:01] <edbian> RickiiBETA, Excellent
[17:01] <RickiiBETA> how do i add them to the menu at the top?
[17:01] <edbian> RickiiBETA, Sorry about the confusion.  I don't like ubuntu tweak for that very reason.
[17:01] <eero> how do I find out, do I use 32-bit or 64-bit ubuntu?
[17:01] <ilovefairuz> Jeandre: konqueror can do that but it's a KDE application
[17:01] <RickiiBETA> that was embarassingly simple
[17:01] <edbian> RickiiBETA, I recommend people just learn how to tweak there systems without that silly thing.
[17:01] <fancybit> t> what module should I install to let the grub read iso file as virtual cd or dvd driver?
[17:01] <edbian> RickiiBETA, :)  It took me a while to figure it out too.
[17:01] <ilovefairuz> oliver_: sudo apt-get purge nvidia*
[17:01] <Jeandre> ilovefairuz: slow PC, will konq work fast on a gnome setup?
[17:01] <RickiiBETA> i think that window 7's library concept was confusing me
[17:02] <ilovefairuz> Jeandre: not likely
[17:02] <paulmain> ilovefairuz, http://pastebin.com/JPe7A2qN
[17:02] <Jeandre> ilovefairuz: thanks
[17:02] <edbian> RickiiBETA, That is unnecessary as well IMHO
[17:02] <duffydack> fancybit, might be of interest to you http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1288604
[17:02] <edbian> RickiiBETA, Just let people use the damn folders!
[17:02] <edbian> RickiiBETA, :)
[17:02] <oliver_> ilovefairuz: I need the propitary drivers so i can't remove them
[17:02] <RickiiBETA> agreed
[17:02] <RickiiBETA> i hate dicking with librarys
[17:03] <sometux> Is it difficult for ubuntu to make a notification system resembling that in Windows?
[17:03] <JimRome> Silly question. vmware VM Windows XP cannot see my USB drive, which the Ubuntu host can see fine. It appears to be a permissions issue.
[17:03] <RickiiBETA> and i agree uTweak seems useless
[17:03] <edbian> RickiiBETA, it is ;)
[17:03] <JimRome> Is there a way to change the permission of the USB drive?
[17:03] <JimRome> Is a USB drive a "file" like most everything else where it can be chmod-ed?
[17:04] <Fendaril> Can someone explain GNU in detail for me? To me it seems like commands and interface used to mimmick the unix system but others call it a liscense
[17:04] <Fendaril> and my book talks of it being incorporated into linux
[17:04] <Fendaril> i am confused
[17:04] <RickiiBETA> now how do i change the items in places on the menu bar?
[17:04] <BluesKaj> eero, lsb_release -a
[17:04] <Fendaril> liscense, commands or what
[17:04] <edbian> JimRome, If the filesystem on the USB drive does not support user permissions then it is controlled by the folder it's mounted in.  You have to chmod / chown the folder before it's mounted though.
[17:04] <RickiiBETA> i went to system>preferences>main menu but "places" isn't listed
[17:05] <RickiiBETA> mb,
[17:05] <RickiiBETA> nv,
[17:05] <edbian> JimRome, However I don't think the issue is permissions.  You usually have to tell the virtual machine it was access to USB ports some how.  I read about it once for an iPod I have no idea how to do it now though.
[17:05] <RickiiBETA> nvm, damn, they automatically changed. nice!
[17:05] <Jeruvy> Fendaril: you shouold visit fsf.org for all the details you are looking for.
[17:05] <JimRome> Oh. I see. Thanks. So I need to change the permissions of /media/usb1 (in my case) rather than trying to change proc or dev or whatever
[17:05] <edbian> RickiiBETA, Yep.  Linux is great! :)
[17:05] <eero> BluesKaj, it doesn't show information about that
[17:05] <duffydack> RickiiBETA, in nautilus, bookmarks
[17:05] <edbian> JimRome, yes
[17:05] <JimRome> Thanks edbian
[17:05] <edbian> JimRome, While it's unmounted.
[17:05] <RickiiBETA> oh, niceee
[17:05] <magistar> eero try: uname -a
[17:06] <Rahmat> errrorrr
[17:06] <BluesKaj> eero,try uname -a
[17:06] <duffydack> JimRome, I dont suppose you know if vmware additions are needed for usb access, and if you have them installed
[17:07] <BluesKaj> hehe
[17:08] <Rahmat> The JACK sound server needs to be running in order to run IDJC. In order to manually start it try something like: $ jackd -d alsa -r 44100 -p 2048 If you would like JACK to start automatically with your user specified parameters try something like this, which will create a file called .jackdrc in your home directory:  $ echo "/usr/bin/jackd -d alsa -r 44100" > ~/.jackdrc If you have already done this it is possible another application or non-JACK sound ser
[17:08] <Rahmat> ver is using the sound card. Possible remedies would be to close the other audio app or configure the sound server to go into suspend mode after a brief amount of idle time.
[17:08] <Fendaril> Jeruvy: it's a a free organization but I am confused if its just a layout on paper or not. This is because ti was developed without a kernel
[17:08] <eero> magistar&BluesKaj, thanks, got the answer :)
[17:08] <Fendaril> but used witht he linux system
[17:08] <Rahmat> if you are trying to connect to a named jack server, either set the environment variable JACK_DEFAULT_SERVER to that name or launch IDJC with the -j jackservername option. For example:   $ jackd -n xyzzy -d alsa -r 44100 -p 2048 &   $ idjc -p profilename -j xyzzy
[17:08] <ilovefairuz> paulmain: in the volume applet, try tinkering with the output device selections
[17:08] <Rahmat> what the hell
[17:09] <Jeruvy> Fendaril: exactly, the whole story can be read there if you are interested.
[17:09] <Fendaril> i typed gnu on the search bar
[17:09] <Fendaril> and it gave kist a paragraph stating it was the basis for GNU/linux
[17:09] <Rahmat> Could not connect to JACK server as client.
[17:09] <Rahmat> - Overall operation failed.
[17:09] <Rahmat> - Unable to connect to server.
[17:09] <Rahmat> Please check the messages window for more info.
[17:09] <FloodBot3> Rahmat: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:10] <Rahmat> ok
[17:10] <ilovefairuz> Rahmat: start jackd on a terminal before starting the application
[17:10] <ilovefairuz> Rahmat: if it's not installed: sudo apt-get install jackd
[17:11] <paulmain> ilovefairuz, how do I know when the change "takes"?  As soon as i make the selection, after closign the app, or do I have to reboot?
[17:11] <Fendaril> jeruvy, so basically GNU kernel isn't finshed so the linux we use today uses the commands and things it lays out?
[17:11] <ilovefairuz> paulmain: keep something running that makes sound and change it, no reboot needed
[17:12] <Jeruvy> Fendaril: GNU is the software, Linux is the kernel.
[17:12] <paulmain> ilovefairuz, you're talking about the hardware, or output tab in the volume control app?
[17:12] <ilovefairuz> Fendaril: the commands and filesystem layout is not specific to GNU Hurd or to Linux, these are Unix standards
[17:13] <ilovefairuz> paulmain: output
[17:13] <rednammoc> hi guys. is there any easy way to copy a bunch of files to another place via nautilus. some files are symlinks and i want to follow the symlink, not copy it.
[17:13] <paulmain> ilovefairuz, ok then, I've got nothing
[17:14] <madf0x> rednammoc that is one of the many reasons why people still use command lines :)
[17:15] <ilovefairuz> paulmain: do you have the latest kernel updates? sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[17:15] <rednammoc> madf0x: i know ^^ but it's easier for me to select images via nautilus, then via commandline ;)
[17:16] <shinzeh> Excuse me everyone, can I use my windows fonts in linux? Can I just copy and paste them or do I need a program for it?
[17:16] <ilovefairuz> paulmain: if a new kernel was installed (linux-image package) reboot and try again, if not, try installing linux-backports-modules-alsa-lucid-generic and reboot
[17:16] <madf0x> rednammoc unless you got some skills and move only image types :)
[17:16] <Rahmat> Reading package lists... Done
[17:16] <Rahmat> Building dependency tree
[17:16] <Rahmat> Reading state information... Done
[17:16] <Rahmat> jackd is already the newest version.
[17:16] <Rahmat> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 9 not upgraded.
[17:16] <FloodBot3> Rahmat: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:16] <ilovefairuz> shinzeh: yes you can, no additional software needed, copy the fonts to $HOME/.fonts
[17:16] <ilovefairuz> !paste | Rahmat
[17:17] <shinzeh> Oh, just made sure, I don't want to encounter errors. Thank you.
[17:17] <ilovefairuz> Rahmat: then just run it, and then start idjc
[17:17] <Rahmat> how to run?
[17:17] <Rahmat> any other command?
[17:17] <ilovefairuz> Rahmat: jackd
[17:17] <rednammoc> madf0x: what that have to do with image-types ?
[17:18] <Rahmat> JACK is running in realtime mode, but you are not allowed to use realtime scheduling.
[17:18] <rednammoc> madf0x: nevermind ^^
[17:18] <Rahmat> Your system has an audio group, but you are not a member of it.
[17:18] <Rahmat> Please add yourself to the audio group by executing (as root):
[17:18] <Rahmat>   usermod -a -G audio editor
[17:18] <Rahmat> After applying these changes, please re-login in order for them to take effect.
[17:19] <Rahmat> You don't appear to have a sane system configuration. It is very likely that you
[17:19] <Rahmat> encounter xruns. Please apply all the above mentioned changes and start jack again!
[17:19] <madf0x> rednammoc well I believe you can recursively search through directories to get a list of all the files, sort them and pipe em to grep to filter in only image types(.png .bmp) and then mv those files
[17:19] <ilovefairuz> Rahmat: paste in a pastebin, STOP PASTING IN THE CHANNEL
[17:19] <Rahmat> what next?
[17:19] <radi> guys, is there a way to minitor my network bandwith weekly or monthly ?
[17:19] <radi> by the router or something ?
[17:19] <madf0x> rednammoc though I wouldnt know specific commands off the top of my head
[17:20] <yizux> que pedo putos
[17:20] <nophis> Hi. I have an external disk connected through an USB 2.0 port to my laptop. When I copy large files to the external disk, the speed starts at ~25mb/s and after some seconds, the speed slow with time until it be about ~3mb/s. Anyone here expected the same problem and know a solution/workaround for this issue?
[17:20] <ilovefairuz> Rahmat: what's your username?
[17:20] <radi> bandwidth*
[17:20] <Rahmat> Editor
[17:21] <aeon-ltd> nophis: is there other disk io happening during this?
[17:21] <madf0x> radi yeah, there are tons and tons of network monitors, gl hunting though
[17:21] <ilovefairuz> Rahmat: sudo usermod -a -G audio editor && jackd -r  &
[17:21] <rednammoc> madf0x: i just want to copy specific images. but i guess it's easier to copy all the stuff via commandline and remove all images i don't wanted to copy ^^
[17:21] <discozohan> Anyone has idea, what is problem about: i installed ubuntu server on first drive of five available. And the system can't boot, it just waiting with black screen. But everything becomes ok when i unplug other 4 drives. What is this ?
[17:21] <discozohan> all drives without partition
[17:21] <litercola> can someone help me with dhcp3 server not starting up on boot with an ltsp server install from the alternate cd.  I have already removed network manager btw
[17:21] <radi> madf0x: what about some router function ?
[17:22] <nophis> aeon-ltd, no, just this operation, no md5sum checks, neither other move copy operation
[17:22] <madf0x> rednammoc lol IF you know the commands :) but thats the benefit of learning the terminal
[17:22] <madf0x> radi as in?
[17:22] <madf0x> radi what router 'function'?
[17:22] <radi> like, everything that goes in and out from the router
[17:22] <rednammoc> madf0x: cp -n follows symlink i guess
[17:22] <radi> and gives me a graph or something
[17:23] <qwd> Anyone know how I can check what size the sectors on my hard drive is? It should be using 4096 byte sectors (it's a wd20EARS) but the hard disk itself apparently says 512. I've read that disk utility sets it up right somewhere (can't remember where) but I want to make sure that the encryption (created with disk utility) and ext4 both use 4096 byte sectors.
[17:23] <SwedeMike> qwd: the EARS drives exposes themselves as 512 byte sectors, yes. They're only 4k internally.
[17:23] <pickett> radi, mrtg
[17:24] <madf0x> radi yeah, tons of them, good luck finding a good one though, and often it needs to be inline of the connection though to monitor it
[17:24] <pickett> your router needs to support snmp though
[17:24] <SwedeMike> qwd: so make sure you align the partition at 4k.
[17:24] <madf0x> radi of course, depending on what kind of monitor you use
[17:24] <madf0x> radi BUUT...
[17:24] <madf0x> !ot | radi
[17:24] <Rahmat> what next?
[17:24] <qwd> SwedeMike: Well, how do I check if it's setup the correct way?
[17:24] <madf0x> radi find a network admin channel :)
[17:25] <radi> madf0x: i think i already got my answer here ;p
[17:25] <radi> just have to check if my wnr2000 supports snmp
[17:25] <madf0x> radi always happy to help
[17:25] <Rahmat> ilovefairuz: what next?
[17:25] <ilovefairuz> Rahmat: run idjc
[17:25] <SwedeMike> qwd: make sure the partition is at a 8 sector boundary.
[17:26] <SwedeMike> qwd: personally I only use those drives with md->cryptsetup->lvm, all those are 4k aligned afaik
[17:26] <radi> "You can clear or email the log, but there is no syslog or SNMP trap support"
[17:26] <radi> damn :S
[17:26] <chalcedony> when i $ ssh user@port 22 - i get an error, publickey,gssapi-with-mic,password ?
[17:27] <qwd> SwedeMike: But how do I make sure? Disk Utility didn't let me choose anything like that.
[17:27] <DoubleString> hey, I have a question:
[17:27] <radi> ok, now that i know i cant do it this way, madf0x, can you tell me any bandwidth tool that can give me weekly graphs for ubuntu ? :P
[17:28] <aeon-ltd> !ask | DoubleString
[17:28] <DoubleString> is it possible to make prt screen without getting the a prompt of result
[17:28] <ilmenite> i have an nvidia graphics card, and using the nvidia proprietary driver, what do i have remove from then blacklist files in /etc/modprobe.d/ so that the splash comes up?
[17:28] <aeon-ltd> DoubleString: the print screen key maybe?
[17:28] <DoubleString> just automatically saving into folder
[17:28] <DoubleString> yes
[17:28] <DoubleString> but it prompts with Screenshot.png
[17:28] <madf0x> radi sorry man, Ive never needed such a tool, so I never looked into it myself
[17:28] <SwedeMike> qwd: fdisk shows that. I'd imagine gparted does the correct thing to begin with.
[17:28] <DoubleString> but I don't want it to do so
[17:29] <DoubleString> instead just save into, let's say Pictures folder
[17:29] <pickett> radi gkrelm does that
[17:29] <radi> thanks anyway
[17:29] <aeon-ltd> DoubleString: you could just macro it to the command 'scrot'
[17:29] <chalcedony> aeon-ltd, can you remind me the way to ssh with a port & pass please?
[17:29] <radi> pickett: ill give it a try now
[17:29] <DoubleString> uhm, aeon-ltd, could you expand a little?
[17:29] <madf0x> radi nut a network channel would be filled with people who use such tools daily, which is why it would be a good idea to ask there
[17:29] <aeon-ltd> DoubleString: but that will save it to /home/user
[17:29] <radi> madf0x: ill do that too
[17:29] <DoubleString> no prob
[17:30] <aeon-ltd> chalcedony: ssh -p (port number) username@ipaddress
[17:30] <radi> pickett: isnt it gkrellm?
[17:30] <aeon-ltd> chalcedony: but why did you ask me?
[17:30] <radi> with double "L"
[17:30] <chalcedony> aeon-ltd, you said ask, not ask to ask ;)
[17:30] <aeon-ltd> chalcedony: oh ok :)
[17:30] <chalcedony> ty aeon-ltd :)
[17:31] <aeon-ltd> chalcedony: did it work?
[17:31] <Rahmat> loading driver ..
[17:31] <Rahmat> apparent rate = 44100
[17:31] <Rahmat> creating alsa driver ... hw:0|hw:0|2048|2|44100|0|0|nomon|swmeter|-|32bit
[17:31] <Rahmat> control device hw:0
[17:31] <Rahmat> Bus error
[17:31] <FloodBot3> Rahmat: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:31] <madf0x> Rahmat youve been warned alot :/ dont push your luck
[17:32] <chalcedony> aeon-ltd, Permission denied, please try again.
[17:32] <madf0x> Rahmat some IRC people are anti-flood freaks and will get the ban hammer down on you
[17:32] <aeon-ltd> chalcedony: you might need sudo
[17:32] <sleepingfox> how can you disable a serial port in ubuntu ?my computer crashes when i try to boot it up and i get this message "serial8250: too much work for irq18"
[17:32] <Rahmat> haha
[17:32] <Rahmat> lol
[17:33] <madf0x> sleepingfox sounds like a serious  hardware issue o.o
[17:33] <chalcedony> aeon-ltd, i never needed sudo before to ssh, but i'm having problems with this one.
[17:33] <Bucky> hi. can i ask here for a gimp issue too, or is there a "chat" channel?
[17:33] <WinstonSmith> sleepingfox, go into your bios and disable the serial ports
[17:34] <WinstonSmith> hi all
[17:34] <sleepingfox> i know , but sometimes it just boots up normally and sometimes it just freezes when i try to boot it up
[17:34] <Adrienk> What do you do about org pakages that apprently dont exist in java?
[17:34] <madf0x> !hi | WinstonSmith
[17:34] <aeon-ltd> Bucky: you can if its a problem
[17:34] <stupid> 8-|
[17:34] <wasutton3> is there a way to disable extents in an ext4 partition without reformatting it?
[17:34] <WinstonSmith> madf0x, ji :)
[17:34] <WinstonSmith> hi *
[17:34] <sleepingfox> i tried getting into the bios i cant find the ports :(
[17:34] <chalcedony> aeon-ltd, password:
[17:34] <chalcedony> Connection closed by UNKNOWN
[17:34] <aeon-ltd> chalcedony: hmmmm. firewall?
[17:34] <ilmenite> is there anyone who knows a solution to either of these problems? #1: at startup, it says running in low graphics mode, then i click on login via console, login. then so a startx and all runs just fine. why cant it just start up fine directly? #2: what do i do in order to get the ubuntu splash screen at boot up?
[17:35] <Adrienk> I tried installing the java gnome pakages but apparently they dont exist when imported in netbeans
[17:35] <gabriele> !list
[17:35] <chalcedony> aeon-ltd, dunno i'll try it once more with your format, i guess?
[17:35] <aeon-ltd> ilmenite: #2 it a kernel boot option 'splash'
[17:35] <sleepingfox> or how at least can detect the faulty hardware? :(
[17:35] <Bucky> aeon-ltd: it's not a technical problem with ubuntu, it's something i'm not able to do with gimp, but i'm looking for a crowded gimp community user...
[17:35] <ilmenite> aeon0-ltd, ah thanks!
[17:35] <aeon-ltd> chalcedony: has the machine your trying to ssh into worked before?
[17:35] <machete> hey everyone
[17:36] <coz_> Bucky,   sorry didnt see your post  what is the issue with gimp ?
[17:36] <adekoba> is there any way to install packages for users only? i.e. for users who don't have root access, installing packages in their home directory?
[17:36] <machete> quick question: does anybody know of a twitt application like twitt deck but which doesn't use adobe air?
[17:36] <madf0x> adekoba  maybe, but generally the policy is to install on the system, and then restrict user access
[17:36] <ilmenite> gwibber?
[17:36] <lux`> Hey guys I have a problem, basically every mouse click fire 2 or more clicks
[17:36] <aeon-ltd> machete: the website? ( i know not a app)
[17:36] <machete> my wife uses twitt deck but every since she installed that firefox crashes all the time
[17:36] <chalcedony> aeon-ltd, this is the "in case it dies again, ssh in, here's the place, port, user, pass
[17:36] <adekoba> madf0x: right... I don't have root access however
[17:36] <lux`> Tryed to reset xorg config file but still have this behaviour
[17:37] <madf0x> adekoba  then you wont exactly be installing any packages now will you o.o?
[17:37] <chalcedony> aeon-ltd, it died, i have a class to teach.. darnit.
[17:37] <machete> aeon-ltd... I am starting new project and already have quite a lot people to follow, the website isn't good fot me
[17:37] <Bucky> i have to double a solid line; i have to draw a map, and this line should represent a road, but it's too long to draw both edges...
[17:37] <coz_> machete,  you mean with adobe air tweetdeck ?
[17:37] <adekoba> madf0x: That's what I was asking, if that was possible.
[17:37] <machete> yes zo_ sorry, that's what I meant
[17:38] <nryan> machete, try gwibber
[17:38] <machete> adobe get's my ubuntu to go poopoo
[17:38] <madf0x> adekoba  well, you could look into the world of priv escalation, buut sometimes you can still compile from source as long as the proggy doesnt need access to restricted files
[17:38] <machete> ok I'll give it a try
[17:38] <qwd> SwedeMike: fdisk shows this http://pastebin.com/bUJkjxvY
[17:38] <ilmenite> can someone please post their grub.cfg or tell me how do i regenerate it automatically? its got weird things from my fedora install!
[17:39] <coz_> machete,   also look here   http://oneforty.com/platform/Linux
[17:39] <SwedeMike> qwd: tell fdisk to display in sectors instead of cylinders.
[17:39] <edbian> ilmenite, update-grub  at the clie
[17:39] <edbian> cli*
[17:39] <qwd> ilmenite: I ran grub-setup when I had problems. don't know if that's right for you though
[17:39] <dt_> hey, I've run into a slight nuisance. is there a way to enable an info bubble to appear over a file when I drag my mouse over it ?
[17:40] <ilmenite> ah cool, thanks!
[17:40] <ilmenite> will try both, will backup the present conf file
[17:40] <machete> yeah what I've seen is that most of them use adobe air
[17:40] <Guest99381> what is the latest image of ubuntu?
[17:40] <coz_> machete,  many on that link do not use adobe air though
[17:40] <aeon-ltd> Guest99381: 10.04
[17:40] <ilovefairuz> Guest99381: 10.04.1
[17:40] <qwd> SwedeMike: both sectors and cylinders start at 1
[17:40] <machete> ok coz_ im checking
[17:40] <aeon-ltd> Guest99381: it doesn't change until releases
[17:41] <SwedeMike> qwd: please pastebin the output when you've switched to sectors.
[17:41] <Guest99381> thanks aeon- I am asking aboute the image id number. ie 26-??
[17:42] <qwd> SwedeMike: http://pastebin.com/guwEmXtw
[17:42] <Bronko> Hi can anybody help me? I'm trying to install that Sun Java Jre/Jdk. I'm supposed to edit /etc/jvm. Problem is it doesn't exist! (JDK/JRE/.bins/sources already installed). Help?!
[17:42] <Janhouse> I am looking for backup tool that sends backed up files to FTP regularily. Any suggestions? I need backup tool that can be used from terminal.
[17:42] <Janhouse> with command line interface
[17:43] <SwedeMike> qwd: well then, you need to recreate that partition because it's clearly not properly aligned.
[17:43] <ilovefairuz> !java | Bronko
[17:43] <th0r> Janhouse: write up a simple script to transfer the files and then schedule it with cron
[17:43] <Guest99381> is this the latest image? initrd.img-2.6.32-24-generic
[17:44] <Janhouse> th0r, ok, I just hope that there are some tools made for this already...
[17:44] <Janhouse> *hoped
[17:44] <ilovefairuz> Janhouse: duplicity
[17:44] <Bronko> Yeah I did all that. I know the procedure. I'm following the tutorial and I'm supposed to edit /etc/jvm which I cannot find?! It's a minimal install btw
[17:44] <Janhouse> ilovefairuz, I'l take a look at that thx
[17:45] <ilovefairuz> Bronko: what tutorial?
[17:45] <Bronko> This: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-ubuntu-linux-install-configure-jdk-jre/ It's allover the web. There are copies of it on other blogs too
[17:46] <paulmain> ilovefairuz, ok, everything is updated, installed linux-backports-modules-alsa-lucid-generic, and still no sound.  I can go into alsa and monkey with all the faders, but there's no sound coming out of any hole on the card
[17:47] <qwd> SwedeMike: now it starts at 64, this should be correct, right?
[17:47] <SwedeMike> qwd: yes!
[17:47] <qwd> SwedeMike: Sweet! Thanks for the help!
[17:47] <ilovefairuz> Bronko: that's for 7.10 (outdated)  did you install the sun-java6-* packages and they didn't work?
[17:48] <machete> ok I found one I really like and by just checking it I could say I would recommend it to anyone on a heart beat... it's called buzzbird
[17:48] <machete> and it doesn't use adobe air, oh yeah
[17:48] <ilovefairuz> Bronko: I  use openjdk: sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jdk .. and everything just works
[17:48] <Bronko> I installed them that the -version responds correctly. I don't yet know if it's using the correct Jdk though?!
[17:48] <fred__> is this the latest version? initrd.img-2.6.32-24-generic
[17:49] <ilovefairuz> Bronko: pastebin: dpkg -l | grep sun-java
[17:49] <ilmenite> is it usual to have 204 files in /boot/grub ?
[17:49] <magistr> Ребята, вы извините конечно, но вы СТАДО ДЕБИЛОВ
[17:49] <ilovefairuz> paulmain: there are a couple of bugs filed on that card but no comments whatsoever
[17:49] <fred__> quit
[17:49] <ilovefairuz> !ru | magist
[17:49] <patryk49991> hello :D
 I hate ubuntu
[17:50] <paulmain> ilovefairuz, huh...  Used to work in gutsy; that's odd
[17:51] <ilovefairuz> paulmain: that's been mentioned ..
[17:51] <Bronko> here: http://pastebin.com/download.php?i=UJKxBQPw
[17:51] <ilovefairuz> ilmenite: grub2 has a lot of files, yeah
 kills youself
[17:51] <ilovefairuz> !ops
[17:52] <ilmenite> hmmm, then okay...
 die, bitch
[17:52] <s5s> is there a way to convert an webpage into a pdf or ps?
[17:52] <paulmain> exit
[17:53] <paulmain> oops
[17:53] <ilovefairuz> Bronko: looks fine. java -version .. ?
[17:53] <ilmenite> print it!
[17:53] <ilmenite> s5s, print it from a browser as a pdf/ps
[17:53] <Bronko> Java version is fine too. I got confused by that tutorial. I guess it's fine than Thanks!
[17:53] <nosoundicewm> i installed lucid on a Pentium III laptop with 256 MB RAM, everything works ok but at certain point it starts to crawl. So i decided to use icewm instead of gnome but sound stops working when initiate an icewm session. Sound works on gnome but not on icewm . So what gives?
[17:53] <Frostic> magistr: ill say it for everyone grow the fuck up.
[17:54] <ilovefairuz> !language | Frostic, we have operators that handle this stuff
[17:54] <aeon-ltd> nosoundicewm: check alsamixer
[17:54] <SwedeMike> Frostic: please don't feed the troll.
[17:54] <s5s> ilmenite: of course :D but I also remember that html2ps formats it in standard GNU documentation however I don't know how to use html2ps
[17:54] <Duke_Harris> Hey guys, I have a problem on Lucid. everytime I boot, The gnome-network-manager has wireless disabled. I changed /etc/Networkmanager/nm-settings.conf managed=true, and also set WirelessEnabled=true in /var/lib.../NetworkManager.state . But nothing works. How do I get this stupid tool to enable the wireless by default?
[17:54] <nosoundicewm> sorry! i am a newbie. what do you mean?
[17:55] <aeon-ltd> nosoundicewm: open a terminal (while in icewm)
[17:55] <nosoundicewm> if i execute alsamixer as a normal user i get: cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
[17:55] <Frostic> oh ya sooo many operators here = 0 and 1 bot lol
[17:56] <fred__> leave
[17:56] <ilovefairuz> Frostic: there are but not +o
 fuck youself and die
[17:56] <wat> Hi! im trying to install ubuntu. i want to keep 2 partitions but wipe the windows one
[17:56] <wat> but ubuntu shows 4 paritions instead of 3
[17:56] <aeon-ltd> nosoundicewm: have you got alsa installed?
[17:56] <guntbert> magic_ninjai: please stop that now
 deinstall ubuntu,  please
[17:57] <guntbert> magic_ninjai: sorry, wron completion
[17:57] <frameRelay> what are they called wat ?
[17:57] <guntbert> *wrong even
[17:57] <wat> i have 500 + 500 + 500. ubuntu shows 250 + 250 + 500 + 500. its not installed yet im trying to
[17:57] <magistr> DO NO INSTALL UBUNTU
[17:57] <madf0x> wat running windows 7?
[17:57] <wat> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4426780/screenshots/fa46ec72899af67fe7dc6f9b4665c23d.png.png
[17:57] <ilovefairuz> !ops | magistr
[17:57] <wat> madf0x: yes. and its not working out great
 suck my dick, please
[17:58] <guntbert> magistar: please stop that now
[17:58] <frameRelay> wat - they are all windows partitions.
[17:58] <madf0x> wat that extra partition is part of the windows boot process keep them lumped in  your head :)
[17:58] <aeon-ltd> !ops | magistr
[17:58] <magistar> gnutbert, stop what?
[17:58] <wat> madf0x: ??
[17:59] <madf0x> wat that extra partition comes with windows 7
[17:59] <nosoundicewm> aeon-ltd:   alsa-base alsa-utils  are installed
[17:59] <guntbert> magistar: please be polite, don't use swear words and keep to the topic: ubuntu support
[17:59] <madf0x> wat the mysterious fourth one is used by windows
[17:59] <aeon-ltd> nosoundicewm: are you sure you spelt 'alsamixer' correctly, there is no space
[17:59] <madf0x> wat makes more sense now?
[18:00] <guntbert> magistar: sorry, just saw that my nick completion went wrong again :-/
[18:00] <wat> madf0x: no.. cause i have 3 500. it just shows 2
 die, bitch
[18:00] <wat> and instead of the third 500, it shows x2 250 ones
[18:00] <madf0x> wat 3 500 is rather vague
[18:00] <LjL> nhandler: you aimed wrong
[18:01] <Frostic> can i take care of him?
[18:01] <nosoundicewm> if i execute alsamixer as a normal user i get: cannot open mixer: No such file or directory BUT as root I can execute it OK. However, even as root I can not get any sound while on icewm
[18:01] <Frostic> i want to see him ping out
[18:01] <nhandler> LjL: Bleh, one character off ;)
[18:01] <wat> madf0x: vague?
[18:01] <wat> X3 500 gb
[18:01] <madf0x> wat x3 GB of what though?
[18:01] <aeon-ltd> nosoundicewm: ok, launch gnome alsamixer and configure your settings
[18:01] <ssn> hi guys
[18:01] <madf0x> wat youre being unclear
[18:02] <ssn> i need to open/edit these postsscript files http://www.isometrics.uni-osnabrueck.de/qn.htm
[18:02] <wat> madf0x: partitions
[18:02] <ssn> evince displays only half of the page
[18:02] <madf0x> wat K and so whats the issue?
[18:02] <wat> madf0x: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4426780/screenshots/fa46ec72899af67fe7dc6f9b4665c23d.png.png
[18:02] <ssn> scribus cannot open them
[18:02] <ssn> how do i do this?
[18:02] <Tempus_Fugit> Hmmm everytime i reboot one of my screenlets keeps loading and I delete it everytime....why wont it go away ????
[18:03] <Frostic> anyone else want to have fun with this ip 90.188.219.127 ? its magistr
[18:03] <Frostic> lol he left
[18:03] <ilovefairuz> Frostic: that's very unacceptable here
[18:03] <earthling_> Why can't I shutdown or restart the computer?, it just goes back to login
[18:03] <wat> madf0x: the issue is taht it does not show the patitions right. i want to wipe one partition and keep 2. but i dont know what to do cause ubuntu shows me 4 partitions?
[18:04] <Tempus_Fugit> Dr_Willis: hey how you been
[18:04] <jjb123> Hey everyone, I am having a problem with ubuntu server 10.04. So I just installed 10.04 from a usb drive after my 9.04 install died from an apt-get update, and the install went fine. The problem is that when I turn the computer back on it just hangs right after it asks you if you want to boot from a cd, where it is supposed to load the operating system. The cursor just sits there blinking and nothing happens. Any ideas? I am starting to g
[18:04] <test34> Frostic, how about this one 66.42.217.196
[18:04] <coz_> earthling_,  how are you trying to do this?
[18:04] <nosoundicewm> launch gnome alsamixer as root?
[18:04] <earthling_> the icon at the top right of the screen
[18:04] <earthling_> coz_
[18:04] <madf0x> earthling_ sudo init 6 will guarentee a reboot
[18:04] <madf0x> earthling_ *almost
[18:04] <coz_> earthling_,   well open a terminal and try   sudo  init 0
[18:04] <coz_> earthling_,  that shuts down   or    sudo init 6  which reboots
[18:04] <Tempus_Fugit> brb
[18:05] <ssn> can someone tell me how to open these files? evince does not display them correctly: http://www.isometrics.uni-osnabrueck.de/qn.htm
[18:05] <Frostic> good luck i got protocols to block ddos he dont so fuck off test34 lest you be my next target
[18:05] <earthling_> ok thx
[18:05] <madf0x> wat well, thats certainly odd .-. im not sure cause idk what setup you have going on
[18:05] <ilovefairuz> !ot | Frostic, test34
[18:05] <coz_> ssn,   they seem to open with evince here
[18:05] <madf0x> !ops | Frostic
[18:06] <madf0x> I alt-three skiddies
[18:06] <Frostic> oh fuck off madf0x you lil twit befor you die too
[18:06] <Andy80> hi all
[18:06] <ssn> coz_: try the german ones. they open, but you can only see half of the page
[18:06] <ilovefairuz> nhandler ^
[18:06] <madf0x> Frostic Good luck with that ;)
[18:07] <Andy80> my CD/DVD are only mounted if I boot Ubuntu with them inserted in the reader. How can I make them work normally? I'm using ubuntu 10.04.
[18:07] <coz_> ssn,   ok did you download the files first?
[18:07] <coz_> ssn,   you are on gnome?
[18:08] <aeon-ltd> nosoundicewm: no your user
[18:09] <coz_> ssn,   I downloaded all of them and opened with evince   they seem to be working here
[18:09] <cablop> mmmm, i want to install ubuntu in a netbook and willing to encrypt the whole data
[18:09] <cablop> i mean the whole disk... in some place i saw the use the full disk for encryption in a lvm... in a graphic installer... but... i don't see the option in the lucid installer...
[18:10] <cablop> where is it? or how to enable it?
[18:10] <ilovefairuz> Andycas: ps aux | grep udisk
[18:10] <ilovefairuz> Andy80 ^
[18:10] <Andycas> :O
[18:11] <Andy80> ilovefairuz: http://pastebin.com/EUPwe2SN this is the output
[18:11] <magistr>  REMOVE UBUNTU AND SAVE THE WORLD
[18:11] <Andy80> ilovefairuz: the Ubuntu Disk Utility can detect my DVD/CD drive, but it says "no media detected"
[18:11] <madf0x> !ops
[18:12] <iceroot> cablop: if i am correct, only the alternate-cd can handle it
[18:12] <aeon-ltd> magistr: save the cheerleader, save the world.
[18:12] <nosoundicewm> aeon-ltd: gnome-alsamixer as a normal user does not display the same things it does as root. In fact, as anormal user if i choose Sound card properties, it aborts with segmentation fault
[18:12] <Duke_Harris> Hey guys, I have a problem on Lucid. everytime I boot, The gnome-network-manager has wireless disabled. I changed /etc/Networkmanager/nm-settings.conf managed=true, and also set WirelessEnabled=true in /var/lib.../NetworkManager.state . But nothing works. How do I get this stupid tool to enable the wireless by default?
[18:13] <ilovefairuz> Andy80: try to mount it manually: sudo mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom ... does it work?
[18:13] <Andy80> ilovefairuz: let me try...
[18:13] <ssn> coz_: do you see the whole file?
[18:13] <coz_> ssn,   yes I do
[18:13] <ilovefairuz> Duke_Harris: intel card?
[18:13] <coz_> ssn,   give me the link again ,,, I will download and put them on dropbox for you to test again
[18:14] <ilovefairuz> Duke_Harris: anyhow, try adding this to /etc/rc.local: rfkill unblock wlan
[18:14] <cablop> iceroot, sigh... so i need to burn that cd
[18:14] <Andy80> ilovefairuz: nothing.... I tried: andrea@centurion:~$ sudo mount /dev/sr0 /mnt/cdrom/
[18:14] <Duke_Harris> ilovefairuz, no Broadcom
[18:14] <Andy80> ilovefairuz: but it stays.... without giving me any output...
[18:15] <Duke_Harris> when i activate wlan (rightklick in panel -> activate wireless) everything works just fine
[18:15] <Duke_Harris> its just deactivated by default
[18:15] <DoubleString> why does teamspeak lag for me?
[18:15] <ilovefairuz> Duke_Harris: that's a "software kill switch".. try using the command i gave you
[18:15] <DoubleString> like every 1 sec?
[18:15] <Duke_Harris> ok, im gonna try
[18:16] <cablop> how is the performance of an encrypted disk?
[18:17] <Andy80> ilovefairuz: this is what I see in Disk Utility: http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/1526/diskutility.jpg
[18:17] <iceroot> cablop: no big differences
[18:17] <cablop> i just wonder if i can setup some partitions as encrypted end some others as not encrypted
[18:17] <paulmain> ilovefairuz, hey there; I've got sound now.  Threw in a new card, disabled the old one in BIOS...  Now sound is choppy though, after a couple of seconds
[18:17] <coz_> ssn,   ok these all work  here    http://dl.dropbox.com/u/132551/isometri.tar.gz
[18:17] <iceroot> cablop: i have a encrypted home an a svn up on 40gb is fast as without an ecrypted drive
[18:17] <cablop> i was using truecrypt on windows for the netbook, and the swap file just make thigs slow...
[18:18] <paulmain> ilovefairuz, things like system sounds play fine though (they're short)
[18:18] <ilovefairuz> paulmain: uninstall the backports package and try
[18:18] <cablop> and hibernate wake are soooooooo slow
[18:18] <itsux2bu> i have a 4gb usb thumbdrive.. but its not auto-mounting.. i don't see it mounted in any folder.. i'm lost at this point..
[18:18] <cablop> i wonder if i can set the swap outside the encrypted set
[18:18] <ilovefairuz> Andy80: your drive (or its firmware) could be faulty
[18:18] <iceroot> cablop: sure
[18:18] <Andy80> ilovefairuz: you mean "broken" ? How can I check it?
[18:18] <Guest13539> hello. Im am completely new to linux. Can someone direct me to a well rounded "thorough" guide on the inner workings of ubuntu. I intend to put enough time in to be proficient and would like a good jumping off point.
[18:19] <ilovefairuz> !enter | cablop
[18:19] <paulmain> ilovefairuz, I did that before I came in
[18:19] <cablop> i'm just willing to not to give my safety to a theft in case of loosing the netbook... not willing to use paranoid methiods, lol
[18:19] <guntbert> !manual | Guest13539
[18:19] <Andy80> Guest13539: help.ubuntu.com :)
[18:19] <bonhoffer> i had ubuntu and windows on a box, forgot windows password, but can't mount my ntfs, i get "The enclosing drive for the volume is locked"
[18:19] <ilovefairuz> Andy80: i would suggest trying it with an older or another distro
[18:19] <bonhoffer> booted up with ubuntu lite
[18:20] <cablop> ilovefairuz: i was not using enter as punctuation...
[18:20] <nosoundicewm> aeon-ltd:   will be back in 5 min
[18:20] <Andy80> ilovefairuz: the fact is that if I boot any Linux distro from CD it doesn't fail... or if I leave a blank CD inserted, then I boot Ubuntu from my hard disk and I can use that CD to burn some data....
[18:21] <ilovefairuz> cablop: my bad
[18:21] <Duke_Harris> ilovefairuz, didn't work
[18:21] <cablop> iceroot: ah! you have an encrypted home... this is another thing... if using the whole disk encryption.... i wonder if swap and common files have performance issues... did you used full disk encryption before?
[18:21] <ilovefairuz> Andy80: but polling the device doesn't work, being faulty is not equal to be non-functional, there could be a bug
[18:21] <ha1flosse> sorry..someone a short moment of time answering a question about ubuntu 10.04
[18:21] <ha1flosse> ????
[18:22] <bonhoffer> anyone know how i can get to windows files from ubuntu?
[18:22] <Andy80> ilovefairuz: ok...
[18:22] <ilovefairuz> Duke_Harris: when it happens check what's blocked in: rfkill list
[18:22] <cablop> bonhoffer: install ntfs-3g... but i think current versions came with it by default
[18:22] <maplebeat> exchange?
[18:22] <iceroot> cablop: its full encrypted but the svn up (io itensiv) was running on /home
[18:22] <Duke_Harris> ilovefairuz, wireless lan: softblocked: yes, Hard blocked: No
[18:22] <bonhoffer> i installed ubuntu lite -- bad idea?
[18:23] <maplebeat> yes
[18:23] <ha1flosse> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>sorry..someone a short moment of time answering a question about ubuntu 10.04
[18:23] <maplebeat> say
[18:23] <cablop> bonhoffer: dunno, it depends on your reqs, so, you just need to add ntfs-3g
[18:24] <iceroot> !ask | ha1flosse
[18:24] <bonhoffer> cablop: i need to get wireless working
[18:24] <PyjamaSpank> I live in a country prone to power cuts, should I be concerned about EXT4 data loss?
[18:24] <ha1flosse> ah cool
[18:24] <karlo> what text editor for terminal you recomended ? (I use vim)
[18:24] <iceroot> karlo: vim of course
[18:24] <cablop> PyjamaSpank: afaik, yes
[18:24] <karlo> ty
[18:24] <maplebeat> gedit
[18:24] <iceroot> karlo: and i mean vim, no vi
[18:24] <ha1flosse> i dont see the objects in trash
[18:25] <cablop> PyjamaSpank: stick to ext3 except if you need additional issues
[18:25] <ilovefairuz> Duke_Harris: try adding "rfkill unblock wlan" in a shell script in ~/bin and add it to startup applications in system > preferences > start up
[18:25] <bonhoffer> trying to get networking going i get /var/run/network/ifstate pemission denied
[18:25] <karlo> I sad I use vim.. :)
[18:25] <iceroot> maplebeat: gedit is not for the terminal
[18:25] <Sir_Leto> use nano
[18:25] <ha1flosse> there ar some deleted objects but they dont appear in directory window
[18:25] <iceroot> karlo: ok, mayn people thing the version that comes with ubuntu is the real vim but its only vi
[18:25] <maplebeat> nano is a good idea
[18:26] <ha1flosse> in the file explorer
[18:26] <ha1flosse> option show hidden files is on
[18:26] <ha1flosse> but nautilus doesnt show
[18:26] <PyjamaSpank> cablop: not what I was looking for, especially after a fresh 10.04 install as EXT4
[18:26] <karlo> exit
[18:26] <ha1flosse> maybe a setting fault?
[18:26] <karlo> xD
[18:27] <wesleytelecom> i ae galera
[18:28] <Duke_Harris> ilovefairuz, still deactivated at startup
[18:28] <wesleytelecom> oi
[18:28] <ha1flosse> right click in nautilus window for "trash" and ->properties counts objects in trash but they doesnt appear in file browser window
[18:29] <cablop> bonhoffer: i think you had less problems using a full ubuntu, it autodetects hardware and read ntfs and so on
[18:29] <nosoundicewm> aeon-ltd:  someone mentioned it might be a pulseaudio issue
[18:30] <ha1flosse> someone's a clue?
[18:31] <ha1flosse> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>right click in nautilus window for "trash" and ->properties counts objects in trash but they doesnt appear in file browser window
[18:32] <Bleubeard> is it possible to run xlink kai on ubuntu server without gtk. only using the kai web gui
[18:32] <ha1flosse> maybe a hint so far?
[18:32] <Bleubeard> run, er install
[18:32] <Guest13539> I have a log file from rhhunter which is root access only. How do I read it using sudo command
[18:33] <ha1flosse> yeah kai is a good one
[18:33] <cablop> PyjamaSpank: then grab an UPS... i don't trust ext4 after reading the way it works
[18:33] <IdleOne> Guest1090: sudo nano file.name
[18:33] <Guest13539> ty
[18:34] <ha1flosse> @cablo: why you dont trust ext4?
[18:34] <ha1flosse> @cablop..sorry
[18:35] <PyjamaSpank> cablop: I've had a couple of power cuts and just there it didn't boot up until I restarted. Not much file access going on but I'm dreading the day I move a couple of GB during the day and get a power cut
[18:36] <ha1flosse> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>right click in nautilus window for "trash" and ->properties counts objects in trash but they doesnt appear in file browser window
[18:36]  * Dr_Willis always copies then deletes big files
[18:36] <ha1flosse> ok
[18:37] <IdleOne> ha1flosse: no need to use all the >>>>> we can see you
[18:37] <mkanyicy> lol
[18:37] <ha1flosse> ok..thought u might be too busy so i just re.marked
[18:39] <jrenner> hey guys I'm having some audio issues. mainly that my audio mutes when my speakers are set to 34%
[18:39] <ha1flosse> but maybe its a silly question..didnt experience something like this problem on fedora or other os
[18:40] <ha1flosse> so if theres no clue im carrying out the trash - finally without knowing or seeing objects in that trash.can..
[18:41] <ha1flosse> who cares..
[18:43] <ha1flosse> its just trash
[18:43] <ha1flosse> cu later
[18:45] <jibis> bonsoir
[18:46] <ilovefairuz> !fr | jibis
[18:46] <dev001> Where can I download just Ubuntu's kernels?  Specifically, the pvops-enabled vmlinuz/initrd for Lucid?  Using them for Xen DomU installs ...
[18:47] <babu__> when i'm installing netbeans ,it asks the path of jdk...i installed gcj in my ubuntu10.04....please help
[18:47] <stegel> i am running into problems getting my dwl-140 to work on 10.1...i instal rt2870usb from ralink and i can see wireless networks, but the connection keeps timing out
 did you download netbeans or instaled it from synaptic?
[18:47] <stegel> when i watch messages i just see, cannot associate with AP
[18:47] <gnomefreak> babu__: our package shouldnt ask you
[18:48] <ilovefairuz> dev001: apt-cache search linux-image  .. will list available kernels
[18:48] <ilovefairuz> babu__: sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jdk
[18:48] <dev001> ilovefairuz: That presumes I have Ubuntu installed.  I don't.  I'm looking for a repo to DL from.
[18:48] <babu__> i have a .bin file of netbeans
[18:48] <ilovefairuz> dev001: packages.ubuntu.com
[18:49] <ilovefairuz> babu__: install openjdk before running that bin
 the latest ver of netbeans is 6.9.1 the best is to download it cuz if u install from synaptic u'll get ver 6.8
[18:49] <infid> is there a way in open office to remove all the hyperlinks from a file at once? eg remove all the underlines of the hyperlinks
[18:50] <Jenny-england> if u download it there is about 250mb eveyrthing included in it
[18:50] <babu__> do i want to install openjdk even i install from apt-get
[18:50] <Jenny-england> i mean java jdk jre
[18:50] <dev001> ilovefairuz: Sorry, perhaps I'm missing something.  There's none here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/kernel/
 if u installed from apt-get install netbeans u still need to install jdk
[18:50] <ilovefairuz> babu__: if you install netbeans from apt-get, the jdk will automatically be installed
[18:51] <ilovefairuz> dev001: http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/linux-image
[18:51] <gnomefreak> use find or locate to find where bleh is installed if you refuse to use our version of a package
[18:52] <dev001> ilovefairuz: not in /kernel?  sigh.  thanks!
 if he install from synaptic he still need to install java
[18:52] <gnomefreak> his issue is finding java not installing it
[18:52] <gnomefreak> as i understood it
[18:52] <itsux2bu> can hardware devices be seen before being mounted..? how do you know what to mount?
[18:53] <gnomefreak> ok now this is getting old be back in a minute
[18:53] <ilovefairuz> Jenny-england: no, it depends on jdk, will be pulled automatically
[18:53] <Jenny-england> i just checked
[18:54] <ilovefairuz> Jenny-england: netbeans depends on libnb-java3-java, which in turn depends on default-jdk
[18:54] <Jenny-england> and he need to install sun-java6-jdk
[18:55] <Jenny-england> i installed i mean tried netbeans 6.8 from synaptic it didnt work i mean i got with it java libs but still had to install sun-java-jdk
[18:55] <ilovefairuz> Jenny-england: apt solves dependencies automatically if you install like: sudo apt-get install netbeans (including a jdk)
[18:55] <Jenny-england> what can i do
[18:55] <Jenny-england> ok if u say so
[18:56] <Dr_Willis> itsux2bu:  yes.  'dmesg' and 'sudo fdisk -l' can give clues to what the devices are called.
[18:56] <mobasher> can anyone help me setup grub please :) i have 3 partitions
[18:57] <ilovefairuz> mobasher: pastebin: sudo fdisk -l
[18:57] <ilovefairuz> !paste | mobasher
[18:58] <ilovefairuz> Jenny-england: what gets installed by default is OpenJDK which is technically different from SUN JDK but they provide the same functionality
[18:58] <mobasher> ilovefairuz>>http://pastebin.com/7em8diSA
 if u didnt install netbeans go to http://netbeans.org/ and download it it is better version than from synaptic
[18:59] <aetaric> ilovefairuz: it is oracle jdk now...just saying
[18:59] <babu__> i'm banned from one channel..how to get revoked
[18:59] <ilovefairuz> mobasher: which partition has your ubuntu installation? sda1 or sda5? and are you using a live cd ?
[18:59] <azlon> how can i connect to my switch in ubuntu? in windows i would use hyperterminal...
[18:59] <ilovefairuz> aetaric: sadly, yes
[18:59] <mobasher> ilovefairuz>> sda5 is my boot partition
[18:59] <wombatguy> ffmpeg for conversion causes my gpu temp to spike to an extreme within seconds. Anyone know a way to turn whatever causes this off?
[19:00] <ManDay> !audio
[19:00] <ManDay> whats that channel for ubuntu audio again
[19:00] <ManDay> that other distro
[19:00] <ArtistXuser> hello.. i spent about 12hrs downloading the ArtistX  via torrent and the md5 sum din't match..
[19:00] <Dr_Willis> azlon:  theres serial terminal programs in the repositories
[19:00] <vimalsista> Can anyone help me get the "Custom Visual Effects" in Ubuntu 10.0 version
[19:00] <Dr_Willis> ArtistXuser:  whats ArtistX ?
[19:01] <madf0x> vimalsista do you mean compiz?
[19:01] <wombatguy> my gpu is a little crazy anyways as it's an nvidia in a hp (historically troublesome) but i can manage normally but this ffmpeg thing is just crazy and seems to pay no attention to any options i know
[19:01] <ilovefairuz> mobasher: do you have separate boot and root partitions ?
[19:01] <ArtistXuser> it's a distro http://www.artistx.org/site2/
 change ip?
[19:01] <mobasher> ilovefairuz>> yes
[19:01] <Dr_Willis> vimalsista:  set up the video card drivers. install the 'ccsm' config too. tweak compiz/effects all day long.
[19:01] <Dr_Willis> !ccsm | vimalsista
[19:01] <ArtistXuser> Dr_Willis: its ubuntu based
[19:01] <mobasher> ilovefairuz>> http://pastebin.com/kCgsLw9h
[19:02] <Dr_Willis> ArtistXuser:  dosent really matter if its ubuntu based or not.. You should see the artistx support channels not here. as for the torrent.. restart the torrent and tell it to verify. is about all you can do,
[19:02] <ilovefairuz> mobasher: so you're not using a live cd? sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[19:02] <mobasher> ilovefairuz>> i'm on live cd right now
[19:02] <vimalsista> oops
[19:03] <vimalsista> I've installed CCSM
[19:03] <ArtistXuser> i verified.. it after download.. and i don't see any artistx channels
[19:03] <ArtistXuser> not sure where to go for help
[19:03] <Dr_Willis> ArtistXuser:  if you have a slow connection. You can order a Ubuntu CD from 'shipit'
[19:03] <vimalsista> I don't see the open even after installing the Compiz
[19:03] <slow-motion> hi
[19:03] <wombatguy> that's the problem with some distros
[19:03] <ilovefairuz> mobasher: how you're on livecd and have sda1 mounted as root?
[19:03] <bhang> can anyone please tell me the command to reinstall something (soprano-daemon, libsoprano) and everything that is dependent on it?
[19:03] <mobasher> ilovefairuz>> http://pastebin.com/t61NxdpS
[19:03] <Dr_Willis> ArtistXuser:  check their homepage/forums - ive never heard of that variant. and i doubt if you will get much support for it here.
[19:04] <ArtistXuser> i have a fast connection and have downloaded many distros and never had a problem
[19:04] <Dr_Willis> ArtistXuser:  could be their image/torrent is bad then
[19:04] <ilovefairuz> mobasher:  read the question i wrote
[19:04] <Muelli> bhang: apt-get remove soprano-daemon libsoprano && apt-get install soprano-daemon libsoprano
[19:04] <mobasher> ilovefairuz>> i mounted it trying to follow some intructions in the fourms
[19:04] <Dr_Willis> ArtistXuser:  or they dident update the md5 files
[19:04] <ArtistXuser> Dr_Willis: that's why i wanted to chat before starting the process again
[19:05] <ilovefairuz> mobasher: reboot and don't mount anything, and come back here
[19:05] <mobasher> k brb
[19:05] <cortom63> hi
[19:05] <vimalsista> I meant I've installed Compiz and I've opened CCSM. Can you walk me through the process to get the "advanced customization"
[19:05] <ilovefairuz> !hi | cortom63
[19:05] <ArtistXuser> Dr_Willis: just wanted to see if othersa are having the same issue
[19:05] <bhang> Muelli: Thx... but does that also reinstall every program that the package manager wants to remove? (a long list...)
[19:05] <Dr_Willis> vimalsista:  that is the advanced custimiuzation.. set the settings how you want.
[19:05] <cortom63> hi
[19:05] <Muelli> bhang: nope :(
[19:05] <Dr_Willis> ArtistXuser:  i doubt if very many people in here have even heard of that Variant
[19:06] <ilovefairuz> cortom63: hello, what's your question ?
[19:06] <ArtistXuser> its on distrowatch
[19:06] <rantic> Hi everyone, the Ubuntu website is discouraging the 64 bit release for everyday desktop computing. Ordinarily this would be fine but I'd like to use my full 4gb of ram. Is the 64 bit release really that bad in comparison ?
[19:06] <Muelli> bhang: but I don't see why you would want to remove those reverse dependcies.
[19:06] <ArtistXuser> Dr_Willis: ok thanks
[19:06] <cortom63> i am brand new to linux and i am using a livecd of ubuntu 10.04
[19:06] <Dr_Willis> ArtistXuser:   but it took 12 hrs to torrent.. sounds lik eits not very popular. or needs lots of seeders
[19:06] <Muelli> bhang: So I'd do a apt-get install --reinstall soprano-daemon libsoprano
[19:06] <antonio__> ciao
[19:07] <ilovefairuz> !64 | rantic
[19:07] <Dr_Willis> ArtistXuser:  ive seen very few 'variants' that are worth the hassles they seem to have. Easier to stick with ubuntu and add what you want
[19:07] <ArtistXuser> wish they had an irc channel
[19:07] <Muelli> "fully supported"? That's not what the website reflects ;-)
[19:07] <rantic> I'm aware it's fully supported .. but http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download
[19:07] <ilovefairuz> Muelli: the statement needs to be removed
[19:07] <vimalsista> yea...But, I don't see "Custom", open when I right click on the desktop and select "visual Effect"
[19:07] <rantic> "64-bit - Not recommended for daily desktop usage"
[19:07] <Dr_Willis> rantic:  use 64bit if you want to..
[19:07] <Muelli> yeah ilovefairuz. "There is a bug for that" -.-
[19:08] <smittix> x64 Run's fine here
[19:08] <Dr_Willis> rantic:  if you understand what 64bit is.. and does. and what issues you may have. then that statement proberly dosent apply to you
[19:08] <iluminator101> how can i graphically mount private home folder on startup
[19:08] <bhang> Muelli: so i figured :( I tried a ppa and purged all of it after a while, but those two packages just just won't "go back". I can't build anything from source now for some reason, and they seem to be the problem
[19:08] <itsux2bu> anyone here with vbox guest os ubuntu and windows host os.. and got ubuntu to use a USB Thumbdrive ?
[19:08] <stegel> i just installed ubuntu off of a live cd...on a system running win7...after install i never see the boot loader to see win7 or ubuntu, it goes right into ubuntu...
[19:08] <Dr_Willis> rantic:  if you had no clue what 32/64bit ment.. then that statement is there to point total beginners to 32bit so they are sure to have somthing that will run
[19:09] <ilovefairuz> itsux2bu: ask in ##windows
[19:09] <Muelli> bhang: ah, I see. Do a apt-cache policy soprano-daemon libsoprano and pastebin it somewhere
[19:09] <wombatguy> im just curious why windows would be your host os
 i have ubuntu host windows guest can share files but usb in guest doesnt work
[19:09] <realcoolguy> itsux2bu: I was just listening to a podcast where the caller did exactly this.  However he said the performance was just too slow.
[19:09] <rantic> Dr_Willis: Fair enough, I'm kind of a newb transitioning to Ubuntu so I'm not sure. Thanks.
[19:09] <cortom63> i am trying to install it but it sees my two 200gb sata ll harddrives as one 400gb, after hours of reading online i managed to get ubuntu installation to recognize two 200gb drives, using the terminal and command sudo apt-get remove dmraid, but when i try to install on my 2nd physical harddrive that is empty it always fails, help?
[19:09] <Muelli> bhang: you can do a apt-get install soprano-daemon=yourversion libsoprano=yourversion once you know the proper version (apt-cache policy will tell you)
[19:10] <Dr_Willis> rantic:  if you have a 64bit cpu.. may as well go 64bit.. if you got 64bit cpu and 4+GB of ram.. definatly use 64bit
[19:10] <realcoolguy> itsux2bu:  (wait, I meant to say the other way around, windows guest on usb drive.  my bad)
[19:10] <iluminator101> how can i graphically mount private home folder on startup?
[19:11] <Dr_Willis> bye all
 dont go
[19:11] <Jenny-england> pls
[19:11] <Jenny-england> dont leave us
[19:11] <Jenny-england> :(
[19:11] <cablop> PyjamaSpank: mmm, i'm not sure, i just avoid ext4 for the not standard behavior of it
[19:11] <Muelli> iluminator101: Alt+F2 - type "gnome-terminal" and you get a fancy UI where you type stuff into. Like "mount"
[19:11] <cablop> can i set up a lvm inside another lvm? is that odd?
[19:11] <coz_> Jenny-england,  looks like you are stuck with the rest of us  :)
 i really dont mind
[19:12] <coz_> :)
[19:12] <th0r> cablop: I tried it...ran terribly slow
[19:12] <Jenny-england> i like ubuntu to be honest i love it
[19:12] <cablop> hehe, ok, good to know
[19:12] <ruffleS> any1 here know how to change truecrypt's systray icon?
[19:12] <mobasher> ilovefairuz>>hey i'm back
[19:13] <bhang> Muelli: ah, I'll try that right away
 wb
[19:13] <cablop> i just wanted tp setup an lvm with some encrypted and non-encrypted volumes inside... then it came to my mind that that could be worse than encrypting the whole thing
[19:13] <mobasher> thanks :)
[19:13] <iluminator101> muelli:i know how to mount it manually, i am saying it should mount automatically, via access your private data
 you welcome my dear
[19:13] <mobasher> just need some help setting up grub (3 partitions 1 boot 1 filesystem 1 swap) anyone can help :)
 what for ? what ubuntu do you want to install?
[19:14] <izatt82> hello world
[19:14] <Muelli> iluminator101: yeah, it should do it automatically. maybe it's not setup properly.
[19:14] <mobasher> Jenny-england>> i got OS installed but just need grub help setup
[19:14] <Muelli> izatt82: Hi :)
[19:14] <ilovefairuz> mobasher: sudo mkdir /mnt/{root,boot} && sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/root &&  sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt/boot && sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/root /dev/sda
[19:15] <edbian> ilovefairuz, nice
[19:15] <ilovefairuz> unix ftw.
[19:15] <cablop> i wonder if a live CD will confuse a crypto partition and do weird things like trying to mount it as other kind of filesystem or even worse using it as swap... like sometimes a liveCd do with raid partitions
[19:15] <mobasher> Jenny-england>> http://pastebin.com/wkALG0Js
[19:15] <cablop> am i being toooo paranoid?
[19:15] <WinstonSmith> hi all :) what command do i use to tell a certain service to start at boot ? thx
[19:16] <edbian> cablop, It simply won't be able to mount it.
[19:16] <izatt82> okay guys i am trying to learn how to use the shell better and i missing how to filter this out. I know "who" gets me all logged in users but how would i filter that list by user name length?
[19:16] <edbian> cablop, That's the point of crypto.  Not that it gets messed up by another OS.  That it can't by booted without the host os or password.
[19:16] <cablop> how wise is to use an unencrypted swap on a full encrypted system?
[19:16] <mobasher> Jenny-england>> btw ..i'm on a liveCD
[19:16] <Muelli> izatt82: hm. I'd look "awk" up. Or write smth in Python
[19:17] <edbian> cablop, swap is pretty useless to encrypt because it is erased everytime you restart the system (unless you hibernate).
[19:17] <edbian> cablop, IDK if you even can encrypt swap.
 so you got ubuntu installed or do you use live cd ?
[19:17] <mobasher> Jenny-england>> i installed it..but just not booting up
[19:17] <ruffleS> does anyone here know how to change truecrypt's systray icon?
[19:17] <izatt82> thanks Muelli. i just kind of got lost digging around. will do thanks for pointing a newbie in the right direction
[19:17] <Muelli> cablop: well. it's not as easy as edbian suggests. You will leak data unless you encrypt.
[19:17] <ilovefairuz> mobasher: reboot and test
 could you please help <mobasher>?
[19:18] <cablop> Muelli: leak data?
[19:18] <ilovefairuz> Jenny-england: i am.
[19:18] <edbian> Muelli, Can you read the swap partition as a typical user on the system?
 i see sorry :)
[19:18] <mobasher> ilovefairuz>> i just reboot want me to reboot again ?
[19:18] <Muelli> cablop: sure. Because you write to a disk unencryptedly. So smbd else can read it.
[19:18] <ilovefairuz> mobasher: yes, check if the bootloader now work
[19:18] <edbian> Muelli, I thought that swap was controlled entirely in kernel space.
[19:18] <mobasher> k thanks brb
[19:18] <Muelli> edbian: probably not. But that's not the scenario you're protecting against, when you're fully encrypting your system.
[19:18] <cablop> Muelli: i want to find a good balance between security and performance
[19:18] <raven> how to change the dedicated root-space (with tune4fs?)
[19:19] <Viper> Hi. What is good program to backup Data & settings in Ubuntu 64 bit
[19:19] <edbian> Muelli, What is the danger of having an unencrypted swap then?  I'm confused
[19:19] <Muelli> cablop: crypto is not that much of a performance killer. Disk I/O is expensive. Computation is not.
[19:19] <cablop> edbin... i give it a second thought... if i hibernate and somebody take my disk away he just need to dump the swap info to get it with no encryption at all
[19:19] <Muelli> edbian: you lose your machine and a third party can read your password and crypto keys because they have been swapped out.
[19:20] <Muelli> sholdn't happen with passwords though, but other data, such as emails might be as problematic.
[19:20] <edbian> Muelli, If that stuff was swapped out.  Does it stay on swap even when the system is off?
[19:20] <cablop> Muelli: well... it's a netbook, so cpu cycles count :P, also CPU usage kills the batery...
[19:20] <edbian> Muelli, I see.
[19:20] <azlon> does anybody use ubuntu to connect to their cisco console? im having issues with both putty and minicom
[19:20] <raven> how to change the dedicated root-space (with tune4fs?)
[19:20] <Muelli> edbian: sure. unless somebody comes and encrypts or erases it. but swap is *not* erased. it's only overwritten.
[19:20] <edbian> cablop, The amount of work done by the cryptography is trivial compared to say opening firefox
[19:21] <edbian> Muelli, Ah I see. Classic problem.  It's not re-written to 0's it's just flagged as empty.  Is that right?
[19:21] <Muelli> cablop: *shrug* it's up to you of course.
[19:21] <edbian> cablop, If you really wanna converse run without a GUI! :)
[19:21] <cortom63> What if i physically disconnect my windows c: drive and leave my empty d: drive connected, then run ubuntu 10.04 livecd, then try to install ubuntu, will that work, and if so when i re-connect my windows harddrive, will i be able to dual boot, or do both drives need to be connected for the grub to do a dual boot?
[19:21] <cablop> hahaha
[19:21] <edbian> cablop, s/converse/conserve
[19:21] <Muelli> edbian: yeah, kind of. I don't know the exact details.
[19:21] <edbian> Muelli, K.  Thanks
[19:22] <cablop> no, i need to run a windows inside linux for a time until i can get rid of windows or find a perfect balance on both OSes
[19:23] <edbian> cortom63, When you turn on the computer the BIOS scans all the devices.  It distinguishes those which are bootable from those that are not (cd drives, hdds, usb drives).  It has a list (that you can change the order of) that it looks to to decide which device to boot.  Then that device takes over.
[19:23] <raven> how to change the dedicated root-space (with tune4fs?)
[19:23] <edbian> cortom63, It wouldn't be a normal dual boot because the system wouldn't ask you which OS to boot.  It would simply follow the list.  If you wanted to boot the "other" os ou
[19:23] <edbian> cortom63, You'd have to tell the bios to boot the other hdd.  Other than that annoyance it would work.
[19:23] <sebsebseb> Hi
[19:24] <bsdpunk_> Sup buddy?
[19:24] <sebsebseb> bsdpunk_: not much
[19:24] <Note-book> well, while installing ubuntu I accidentally dropped my notebook moving it from one room to the other....it's scratched alongside the keyboard and at the back
[19:24] <Note-book> can I skin the inside of my notebook? It's a HP DV6000.
[19:24] <edbian> cortom63, You can install ubuntu and windows along side one another in separate partitions on one harddrive.  Then grub would replace the windows bootloader on that HDD and it would ask you which to boot when you turn the computer on and the bios boots the hdd.
[19:24] <edbian> cortom63, Does all that make sense?
[19:24] <edbian> sebsebseb, Hi
[19:24] <sebsebseb> edbian: Hi
[19:25] <ilovefairuz> !ot | Note-book
[19:25] <edbian> cortom63, The latter is a true dual-boot.
[19:25] <cortom63> edbian: when i try to install ubuntu , it does not pick up that i have another operating system, and picks up one 400gb hdrive instead of the 2x 200gb
[19:25] <sebsebseb> Note-book: what do you mean skin the inside of the notebook?
[19:25] <Note-book> sebsebseb, apply a skin to the inside, like around the kayboard
[19:26] <ilovefairuz> raven: as in increasing the partition size? use the "parted magic" livecd to resize your partitions
[19:26] <edbian> cortom63, Are you running raid or something?
[19:26] <sebsebseb> Note-book: not quite sure what you mean, but since your on about hardware go to ##hardware and ask
[19:26] <edbian> cortom63, Are these hdds all sata?
[19:26] <cortom63> sata ll no raid
[19:26] <cortom63> yes
[19:26] <k08r4> #join ubuntu-rs
[19:26] <edbian> cortom63, Try booting with only the windows hdd in.
[19:26] <jamie_> Anyone to help with conky?
[19:26] <hellboy316> ubuntu rocks
[19:27] <jrib> jamie_: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[19:27] <azlon> can somebody help me connect to my console via serial port? i have putty and minicom but they arent working...
[19:27] <sebsebseb> hellboy316: correction,  Desktop Linux as a whole, whater the distro, rocks
[19:27] <dylanc> HI~
[19:27] <sebsebseb> whatever the distro
[19:27] <edbian> cortom63, Additionally you could install Ubuntu on the empty hdd.  Then configure grub manually to give you the option to boot ubuntu or windows and then just tell it that windows is on the other HDD (yeah grub can do that).
[19:27] <dylanc> anybodyhome~?
[19:27] <cortom63> and then install ubuntu to share that drive?
 can i say something ? :) i have 350gb other 500gb on 350gb in win 7 i went to control panel disk mgr and deleted 500gb made it be unalocated space then  ibooted up ubuntu live usb and installed ubuntu on 500gb without problem
[19:27] <ilovefairuz> !details | jamie_, dylanc
[19:27] <vect0rx> I'm trying to get a kernel with 802.15.4 wireless support (ZigBee/6lowpan/etc), but the linux-zigbee people only seem to have a full kernel (2.6.36) download and not a patch available.. how do I reconcile this with the standard ubuntu patches?
[19:28] <edbian> cortom63, And tell the bios to always boot the Ubuntu drive (which will then boot grub and give you the option).
[19:28] <karlo> is there any ubuntu ftp community ?
[19:28] <raven> ilovefairuz, no i mean to reduce the root-space on a partition (to make free and available space equal)
[19:28] <edbian> cortom63, It is EXTREMELY odd that your 2 hdds are being detected as one big one :)
[19:28] <jrib> karlo: what would they do?
[19:28] <Guest82189> I don't have access to my desktop internet so I cant pastebin ...  Sorry can someone help me with logging on error code   " Could not update ICEauthority file/home/me/.ICEauthority    after hitting ok I get   There is a problem with the configuration server.  ( /usr/lib/libgconf2-4/gconf-sanity-check-2 exited with status 256)  after hitting close I get    Nautilus could not create the following required folders:/home/me/Desktop,/home
[19:28] <Guest82189> /me/.nautilus. One more mess to follow
[19:28] <edbian> cortom63, If you run the live CD does the output of sudo fdisk -l show 1 big hdd as well? Or does it correctly see 2?
[19:28] <karlo> jrib, ?
[19:29] <jamie_> In terminal, 'sensors' works fine, but I can't get any temps on my conky (they all show as 0), and furthermore, whether I put own_window_type normal or dekstop, when I click on the desktop itself, conky disappears.  (I'm on Ubuntu 10.04.1 and I can give code/screenshots)
[19:29] <jrib> karlo: I don't know what a "ftp community " is
[19:29] <karlo> or ftp archive..
[19:29] <edbian> Guest82189, I was helping you earlier.  You need to change the permissions on your /home
[19:29] <dylanc> I got it ,sorry~!
[19:29] <Guest82189> Before running Nautilus, please create these folders, or set permissions such that Nautilus can create them..
[19:29] <sebsebseb> hellboy316: well some, are much better than others
[19:29] <Guest82189> hey HELLO again edbian
[19:29] <edbian> Guest82189, yeah see permissions.  You should read up on linux permissions :)
[19:29] <cortom63> jenny-england: i have got unallocated space on one drive, and empty 2nd one aswell, but everywhere i try to install ubuntu to it fails
[19:29] <edbian> Guest82189, Hi
[19:29] <extraclassic> jamie_: window type needs to be override if you don't want it to disappear
[19:30] <firetux> Hello, I want to create an ad-hoc wireless network but simply I want to change the channel, so NetworkManager is not fit for me... can anyone help me with that ??
[19:30] <Guest82189> Do I want to delete the applet from configuration
[19:30] <jrib> karlo: ftp archive of /what/?
[19:30] <jamie_> extraclassic - trying it now - thanks a billion if that's all it was (I've been googling for a couple days now!)
[19:30] <edbian> Guest82189, What?  No don't delete anything.  Run this command: "sudo chmod -R 777 ~"
[19:30] <karlo> of ubuntu programs.. or ftp forum..
[19:30] <edbian> Guest82189, without quotes of course
[19:30] <ilovefairuz> !software | karlo
[19:30] <jrib> karlo: umm, you mean the repositories?
[19:30] <geirha> edbian: That'll break more than it will fix
[19:31] <edbian> geirha, It will get it to stop yelling errors.  It just won't be secure.
[19:31] <cortom63> it shows 2 now
[19:31] <raven> how to make available and free space qual?
[19:31] <Kolhal> hello
[19:31] <geirha> edbian: He'll get new errors because of world writable files
[19:31] <cortom63> it shows 2
[19:31] <edbian> geirha, Really?
[19:31] <test34> guest82189, dont run that sudo chmod command
[19:31] <karlo> jrib, nothing :) .. I will do a long.. long.. long search on the web.. xD
[19:31] <edbian> geirha, I trust you.
[19:31] <jrib> karlo: k, not really sure what your question is still.
[19:32] <Muelli> edbian: even worse, clicking smth in nautlus might result in programs being executed...
[19:32] <Fendaril> is there a way to change the time it takes in ubuntu for the monitor to automatically shut off
[19:32] <Fendaril> like in windows
[19:32] <geirha> Guest82189, edbian: I'd go with: sudo chown -R "$USER:$USER" ~/
[19:32] <jamie_> extraclassic that worked :-) (although it's no longer in the far background, i.e. I can put icons behind it, etc, but that's fine.)  Any clue on tempsensors?  I wanted hdd, cpu0/cpu1 and nb/mb/system (one of those)
[19:32] <Muelli> Fendaril: gnome-screensaver-preferences
[19:32] <extraclassic> jamie_: no idea
[19:32] <Fendaril> ok
[19:32] <firetux> Hello, I want to create an ad-hoc wireless network but simply I want to change the channel, so NetworkManager is not fit for me... can anyone help me with that ??
[19:33] <edbian> geirha, He's pm-ing me I keep telling him to come back in here.
[19:33] <ilovefairuz> Guest82189: rm /home/me/.ICEauthority  and try logging in
[19:33] <edbian> Guest82189, See what geirha said up there?  ^^
[19:33] <Muelli> firetux: check iwconfig
 i dont know how it i possible i didnt have any problems i mean when i tried to install ubuntu at first i ben looking to resize partition using ubuntu installer and i couldnt resize it but when i have made separate partition and unalocated space without even little problem installed ubuntu
[19:33] <Guest82189> yup, ill try it
[19:33] <raven> how to make available and free space qual?
[19:33] <ilovefairuz> Fendaril: system > preferences > power management
[19:33] <jrib> raven: why?
[19:33] <edbian> ilovefairuz, He was messing with his usernames / passwords because he forgot it then he remembered it.
[19:33] <Guest82189> first off how do I get the terminal up again...
[19:34] <edbian> Guest82189, alt + F2
[19:34] <edbian> Guest82189, then type gnome-terminal
[19:34] <Guest82189> thx
[19:34] <blurrr> anything better than "dd if=/dev/sda  of=/dev/sdb" for cloning sda to sdb
[19:34] <edbian> Guest82189, You should read this when you're done so you understand better: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/filepermissions.html
[19:35] <edbian> Guest82189, geirha, You'll have to help him now.  I have to go!
[19:35] <ilovefairuz> Guest82189: alt + f2, type your user name and password, then rm /home/me/.ICEauthority , then alt + f7
[19:35] <Guest82189> cool... thx and do I go with I Lovefairuz also or no??
[19:35] <cortom63> sda: 200gb with sda1 hpfs/ntfs system and sda2 dell utility, then sdb: with sdb1 linux, sdb2 extended and sdb5 linux swap / solaris
[19:35] <jamie_> Temp sensors in Conky always show 0  (for cpu0/1, hdd, etc) Anyone seen this problem before?  'sensors' in terminal works fine
[19:35] <cheasee> im creating xfs on a raid5 out of 8 disks, ive read on a forum, mkfs.xfs optimizes for software raids (mdadm im using) but it doesnt seem so, default tells: sunit=0      swidth=0 blks
[19:35] <edbian> Guest82189, Up to you.  I don't really know what his command is going to accomplish besides deleteing that file.
[19:35] <hellboy316> hey guys how to get iscan run as non root ... its says device busy whenever i run it
[19:35] <extraclassic> jamie_: i'd ask in #conky
[19:36] <Fendaril> so GNU is the OSS part and the actual kernel is not so much Open source?
[19:36] <Guest82189> edbian  Thanks again for your help
[19:36] <jrib> Fendaril: lol...
[19:37] <Fendaril> jrib: can you explain
[19:37] <ilovefairuz> Fendaril: no, and ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:37] <jrib> Fendaril: the kernel is gpl 2
[19:37] <jrib> !free | Fendaril
[19:38] <geirha> Guest82189: The output of   ls -ld ~/   would help btw, at least the four first fields it outputs.
[19:39] <jamie_> #conky is dead.  and $alignr${execi 3600 wget -O – http://whatismyip.org/ | tail} shows absolutely nothing... (is that code correct?)
[19:39] <Guest82189> geirha ok  I went with your suggestion sorry for the wait the phone rang...  and all I get is the greater than sign..  what should I do next??
[19:39] <geirha> Guest82189: Hit Ctrl+C, and type it in again, correctly.
[19:40] <wildc4rd> I have 2 ubuntu pc's on this network, how would I go about finding my shared folder on one PC with the netbook?
[19:40] <geirha> Guest82189: You were likely missing the closing "-quote
[19:40] <Guest82189> i didnt think we used "  's in linux newbie sorry
[19:40] <azlon> how can i list my groups?
[19:41] <hopkins> hola
[19:41] <madf0x> azlon the groups on the system or the groups you belong in?
[19:41] <hopkins>  algun mexicano
[19:41] <hopkins>  o alguien que hable español
[19:41] <geirha> Guest82189: It's part of the shell syntax. Quotes are very important.
[19:41] <azlon> madf0x: both, i will need to add myself to a group if im not in it
[19:41] <madf0x> azlon ahh either way cat /etc/groups
[19:41] <joe__> is this the channel for help?
[19:41] <raven> how to make available and free space qual?
[19:41] <raven> how to make available and free space equal?
[19:41] <madf0x> azlon though you dont need to be in EVERY group, no point
[19:41] <ilovefairuz> azlon: 'groups'
[19:41] <guntbert> !es | hopkins
[19:42] <azlon> madf0x: that didnt work
[19:42]  * joe__ thinks it is
[19:42] <mustafam> Hi
[19:42] <guntbert> joe__: yes.  Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[19:42] <jk_> azlon, cat /etc/groups|grep $USER
[19:42] <madf0x> azlon */etc/group
[19:42] <azlon> ilovefairuz: that worked, thanks
[19:42] <jamie_> guess I'll try later tonight when more people are on... (when are there more than 1500 people? lol...)
[19:42] <jk_> group*
[19:42] <Guest82189> geirha I got chown:invalid user:me
[19:42] <mustafam> I'm new to ubuntu
[19:42] <azlon> madf0x: how do i add $USER to the dialout group?
[19:42] <madf0x> azlon I keep thinking theres a s there when there isnt xD
[19:43] <mustafam> I have upgraded from 9.04 to 10.04 LTS
[19:43] <ilovefairuz> azlon: sudo usermod -a -G dialout $USER
[19:43] <mustafam> and I'm getting cannot mount.... Press S or M for manual mount
[19:44] <hopkins> */etc/group
[19:44] <hopkins> /etc/group
[19:44] <ilovefairuz> mustafam: back up your files with a live cd and do a fresh install
[19:44] <joe__> does anyone here know how to remove offending resolutions from the monitors control from system->preferences->monitors? My installations of 10.04 lts trips out if anything other than a few basic modes are selected.
[19:44] <Milp_main> hi i got lxde running via vnc but sometimes i just cant start anything anymore.
[19:45] <geirha> Guest82189: Hum. That's weird. Does   getent passwd "$USER"   output anything?
[19:45] <mustafam> I picked one of the recovery entries
[19:45]  * sebsebseb Is back
[19:46] <CompuTom> Has anyone installed AVG antivirus on Ubuntu10?
[19:46] <mustafam> How can I edit fstab using the Live CD
[19:46] <mustafam> it says I have no permission
[19:46] <jrib> CompuTom: why do you want to?
[19:46] <madf0x> CompuTom why would you want to?
[19:46] <ilovefairuz> !virus | CompuTom
[19:46] <joe__> computom: why would youw ant to do that?
[19:46] <mustafam> I understand I need to use root user
[19:46] <jrib> mustafam: mount your install and use sudo
[19:46] <Guest82189> geirha yes it outputs ,,,:/home/me:/bin/bash
[19:46] <dev001> Finally found the _right_ sources for DL'ing Ubuntu Lucid kernel+initrd for Xen DomU guest install, @ ".../dists/lucid/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/...".  There, however, ./xen/{vmlinuz,initrd.gz} & ./ubuntu-installer/amd64/{vmlinuz,initrd.gz}.
[19:46] <dev001> My understanding was that currrent Ubuntu uses pvops-enabled kernels, and that sepearte xen-specific kernels are no longer required.  If true, what's the difference between those 2 URLs' contents?
[19:46] <mustafam> but how do I specify I want to run the file using root user from the Terminal
[19:47] <jrib> mustafam: have you mounted your install already?
[19:47] <joe__> computom: besides if you look at the avg description of it. they say it is to scan the mails and files in your mail/file server setup. it doesn't actually scan linux stuff.
[19:47] <geirha> Guest82189: And    getent group "$USER"   ?
[19:47] <Guest82189> geirha interruptions from kids sorry.. I think I need to try the first command again except without any more intterups.. Hold on.
[19:47] <mustafam> What do you mean mounted my install
[19:48] <jrib> !who | mustafam
[19:48] <jrib> mustafam: why do you want to do this?
[19:48]  * joe__ will try his request again in borked english
[19:48] <Guest82189> geirha it outputs me:x:1000:
[19:48] <joe__> how remove useless resolutions from monitors section. have 10.04 lts
[19:49] <geirha> Guest82189: So both the user and group exists, yet chown claims they don't. Hm.
[19:49] <mustafam> jrib:  The advice I was getting was to comment out a line in the ftsab file
[19:49] <jrib> mustafam: what's the issue?
[19:49] <jrib> mustafam: and what line?
[19:50] <geirha> Guest82189: Ok, let's try without the variables;   sudo chown -R me:me ~/
[19:50] <Guest82189> geirha  ok I tried again and there was NO responce to sudo chown  _R....
[19:50] <raven> how to make available and free space equal?
[19:50] <mustafam> jrib: Upon bootup I am asked to Press S or M for manual mount
[19:50] <mustafam> don't know what this means
[19:50] <jrib> geirha: note "chown -R foo: bar"   is equivalent to   "chown -R foo:foo bar"
[19:50] <madf0x> Guest82189 no response generally means success
[19:50] <geirha> Guest82189: -R, not _R I hope. Though no response is good.
[19:50] <jrib> madf0x: that is everything it says?
[19:51] <Guest82189> geirha  oh...  it is on my desktop in terminal!!
[19:51] <madf0x> jrib how would I know?
[19:51] <deusr> hi guys!
[19:51] <jrib> madf0x: don't you have esp? :P
[19:51] <mustafam> jrib: searched on net and found that I should comment out this line none /sys/bus/usb/drivers usbfs devgid=125,devmode=664 0 0
[19:51] <ilovefairuz> !hi | deusr
[19:51] <deusr> can someone help me! the sound of my notebook is leaving only boxes external, if I plug a phone, still leaving just externally, does not come in phone
[19:51] <madf0x> !hi deusr
[19:51] <raven> how to make available and free space equal?
[19:51] <jrib> mustafam: is that everything it says?
[19:51] <geirha> Guest82189: Hm?
[19:52] <geirha> jrib: Neat, didn't know that :)
[19:52] <mustafam> jrib: My question: How can I edit fstab using live CD
[19:52] <joe__> raven: why do you need to do that?
[19:52] <deusr> I'm with the headset plugged into the notebook now and the sound does not come on the phone, only in cases of notebook
[19:52] <jrib> mustafam: mount your install and edit the mounted /etc/fstab with sudo.
[19:52] <madf0x> !sound | deusr
[19:53] <Guest82189> geirha  let me tell you whats going on.. I am looking at terminal which I can use on my desktop that I cant use.. THere is no applications button and when I right click taskbar to add a window comes up taht is the panel properties and     some of these properties are locked down???
[19:53] <mustafam> jrib: How do I mount my install?
[19:53] <joe__> !resolution
[19:53] <jrib> mustafam: mount BLOCK_DEVICE_CORRESPONDING_TO_THE_PARTITION_WITH_FSTAB MOUNT_POINT
[19:53] <madf0x> mustafam or info mount :)
[19:53] <geirha> Guest82189: Could you show the first four words of output from this?   ls -ld ~/
[19:54] <Milp_main> What could be the cause if i cant start any programs in LXDE anymore?
[19:54] <deusr> madf0x, ok!
[19:54] <jrib> Milp_main: your computer has transformed into a bean?  Give us more details...
[19:54] <Milp_main> i cant, because all it does is nothing
[19:54] <madf0x> deusr I had a similar "problem" till I "fixed" it by playing with the settings :) being exploratory has its benefits
[19:55] <Milp_main> cpu usge peaks for a second or 2 and then its down to normal and nothing happens
[19:55] <geirha> Guest82189: Sounds like there's no window decorator running
[19:55] <Guest82189> geirha dr-x------ 6 me me 4096 2010-08-29
[19:55] <jrib> Milp_main: all *what* does?  What are you doing that you expect it to do something?
[19:55] <serengeti> hi, I have two monitors connected to a Radeon 8500 and I can't set the correct resolution on the one plugged to a VGA port (DVI works good). Any clues?
[19:55] <jrib> !who | Milp_main
[19:55] <winterdj> i'm trying to install ubuntu with wubi off of a CD image I downloaded, however, it says it's downloading a torrent? Shouldn't it use the install files off of the CD rather than downloading another copy?
[19:55] <geirha> Guest82189: Ah, it's not writable. Run:   chmod u+w ~/
[19:55] <deusr> madf0x, but managed to solve?
[19:56] <Milp_main> jrib sorry, im trying to start just about anything, a terminal window, a browser window, a file manager window, anything. Nothing will start until i restart the vncserver hosting the lxde session
[19:56] <geirha> Guest82189: Then see if you can log in right.
[19:56] <Cojage> hi, is there a diffirence between the packaged nvidia drivers and the nv drivers from nvidias website?
[19:56] <PaulEycks> e
[19:56] <Guest82189> ill try
[19:56] <madf0x> deusr yeah, just wasn't technically a problem.
[19:56] <sebsebseb> geirha: by the way I woudn't recommend using Wubi at the moment, because  there a major problem that might happen if you do it seems,  plus partitioned installs are much better
[19:56] <Cojage> except the versions
[19:56] <madf0x> deusr just flipped a setting and boom, speakers to headphones
[19:56] <serengeti> it's a 1280x1024 17" hyundai, and the Monitor Preferences lets me select 1360x768. which doesn't make much sense...
[19:56] <Guest82189> geirha rebooting
[19:56] <jrib> Milp_main: using the menu you mean?
[19:57] <television_> what filesystem should i use for a 500 gb hdd i'm using to store videos and music and pdfs?
[19:57] <Milp_main> jrib well either that or the desktop shortcuts, if i happen to have a terminal open when that happens, i can still start things from it like synaptic for example
[19:57] <madf0x> television ext4
[19:57] <madf0x> television or ext3
[19:57] <television_> so just format it as ext4 or ext3?
[19:57] <jrib> Milp_main: does it only happen over vnc?
[19:57] <madf0x> television pretty much
[19:57] <geirha> sebsebseb: Think you got the wrong nick.  I don't have windows, but maybe I can run wubi in wine? :)
[19:58] <deusr> madf0x, ?? what's? how so?
[19:58] <sebsebseb> geirha: no you must have Windows to run Wubi
[19:58] <Guest82189> geirha  my speakers are ding ding ding and the screen is locked.. Trying reboot again
[19:58] <television_> i formatted it as ext4 can't seem to write to it
[19:58] <mustafam> jrib: Running sudo /etc/fstab did open fstab but did not show all lines
[19:58] <madf0x> !audio | deusr
[19:58] <PaulEycks> e
[19:58] <Milp_main> jrib sorry i cant find that out, the setup of my system does not allow me to start the xserver directly
[19:58] <sebsebseb> geirha: Why do you watn to run Wubi, if you don't even have WIndows?
[19:58] <madf0x> deusr :)
[19:58] <joe__> television: did you give write permissions to your user account?
[19:58] <jrib> mustafam: erm, "sudo /etc/fstab" makes no sense.  Try: gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[19:58] <sebsebseb> geirha: if you want to run Ubuntu inside another OS use a virtual machine
[19:58] <jrib> Milp_main: see if it happens in a different desktop environment
[19:58] <geirha> sebsebseb: I don't, it was a joke. You auto-completed the wrong nick I think.
[19:58] <Cojage> hi, is there a diffirence between the packaged nvidia drivers and the nv drivers from nvidias website?
[19:58] <sebsebseb> geirha: oh
[19:58] <madf0x> television did ya mount it -_O
[19:59] <Milp_main> jrib hmm could you recommend one that is similar to lxde? Gnome or anything based on normal X is too heavy for the machine to run
[19:59] <sebsebseb> winterdj: see above
[19:59] <jrib> Milp_main: try fluxbox
[19:59] <Guest82189> geirha still getting ding.....ding......ding   and a locked screen???
[19:59] <sebsebseb> winterdj: I started messaging geirha when I was meant to have messaged you
[19:59] <itsux2bu> when using vbox, a guest os can't use a usb device?
[19:59] <amaurea> It is time to update to a newer ubunto distribution (I am on 9.10), but I have made some changes to my system, such as removing pulse audio. Is there a way to upgrade without having to redo all those changes every time?
[19:59] <winterdj> is Wubi not supported anymore?
[19:59] <hellboy316> hey any light weight window manager like flux box but better
[19:59] <sergio> !list
[19:59] <sebsebseb> winterdj: it is, but
[20:00] <jrib> itsux2bu: it can if you use the non-opensource version
[20:00] <sappel> evening folks. quick question: a friend of mine has a intrepid version on his notebook...and he can't find medibuntu sources.list - how to fix that?
[20:00] <sebsebseb> winterdj: I read about a nasty Wubi bug recently
[20:00] <geirha> Guest82189: Locked screen?
[20:00] <Milp_main> jrib im sorry to bother you again, but is there any other like those 2? fluxbox really is a hassle since the device wont let me rightclick either
[20:00] <sergio> !canali
[20:00] <sebsebseb> !8.10 | sappel
[20:00] <sebsebseb> sappel: Great release sadly no longer supported
[20:00] <jrib> Milp_main: I don't know, try one of the other boxes?  or xubuntu?
[20:00] <Guest82189> geirha   yea, I am at the login and all I get is ding every two sec and the login screen cursor everything is frozen
[20:01] <television_> madf0x: http://pastie.org/1124620 am i mounting it correctly?
[20:01] <sappel> sebsebseb: I'm just confused since there seem to be hardy sources for medibuntu, but not for the newer intrepid?
[20:01] <Freejack`> Milp_main: are you looking for a gui with usefullness and low overhead?
[20:01] <television_> its media/media2
[20:01] <geirha> Guest82189: Login screen, so before you're even logged in?
[20:01] <sebsebseb> sappel: of course
[20:01] <Milp_main> Freejack yes, but not tiling but real window managing
[20:01] <sebsebseb> sappel: since Hardy is still supported, since its LTS
[20:01] <joe__> whereis the primary monitor resolutions stored on the system?
[20:02] <sappel> cuz hardy is lts...yeh just thought of it
[20:02] <sappel> thanks
[20:02] <sergio> non si può scaricare file?
[20:02] <Freejack`> Milp_main: have you tried lubuntu?
[20:02] <itsux2bu> jrib, how do i tell?  as far i know i'm using free personal use version
[20:02] <mustafam> jrib: what is the difference between (gksu gedit /etc/fstab) and (gksudo gedit /etc/fstab)
[20:02] <Milp_main> Freejack what is lubuntu?
[20:02] <television_> !italian
[20:02] <madf0x> television I rarely use fstab have you tried a more manual mount?
[20:02] <Guest82189> geirha  Correct, grub, select and wait, see the login screen, cant do anything,, ding    ding    ding
[20:02] <jrib> itsux2bu: what is the name of the package?
[20:03] <jrib> mustafam: "gksu is a frontend to su and gksudo is a frontend to sudo"
[20:03] <geirha> Guest82189: Hm. Weird, never seen those symptoms before
[20:03] <television_> madf0x:  i was hoping to mount it automatically everytime
[20:03] <Freejack`> Milp_main: http://lubuntu.net/ light ubuntu nice interface runs well on PII 450mhz with 256mb
[20:03] <madf0x> television I then info fstab
[20:04] <itsux2bu> jrib, VirtualBox-3.2.8-64453-Win.exe
[20:04] <Freejack`> Milp_main: also join channel #lubuntu for more
[20:04] <mustafam> jrib: Is there a difference between su and sudoo?
[20:04] <mustafam> sudo
[20:04] <Milp_main> Freejack oh thanks
[20:04] <jrib> itsux2bu: ask #vbox for support
[20:04] <madf0x> Sonjaa doing a quick over it looks like you dont have rw in your fstab
[20:04] <jrib> mustafam: yes
[20:04] <Guest82189> geirha   OK just kept resetting or restart button and rebooting over and over and over...  Now I am at my WORKABLE desktop
[20:04] <Sonjaa> madf0x:  thanks... i need to add rw
[20:04] <jrib> !sudo > mustafam
[20:04] <Guest82189> geirha   U R a genious  Thanks for the help!!!
[20:05] <Sonjaa> madf0x:  i think this will solve it. rebootin now
[20:05] <Sonjaa> <3 thx
[20:06] <hoare> guys I mistakenyl deleted Pictures, Downloads, Documents.... special folders under my Home, how can I restore them? they were empty..
[20:06] <mnord> Hi, I have a problem with Firefox. When I start it from the menu it appears in the panel for a second, then goes away. I see it in system monitor but that's all. I've tried reinstalling it with "aptitude install firefox" but no luck. Any ideas?
[20:06] <joe__> exit
[20:06] <halvors> I got deleted Auto eth0 and now i am offline :(
[20:06] <halvors> How fix it?
[20:06] <halvors> Also get them back?
[20:06] <bifftannen> hi folks, my friends sound has stopped working in totem and on youtube(,etc), but it works fine in audacious and also in the gstreamer-properties tests, any diea what is up?
[20:06] <jrib> hoare: they'll probably be restored when you login again or just right click -> create directory yourself...
[20:06] <Freejack`> Anyone good with scripting for processes to be launched at boot like smuxi-server?
[20:06] <hoare> jrib: their icons do not come back.
[20:06] <Guest82189> geirha  FULLY funtional and access to all...  Thanks again
[20:06] <jrib> !startup > Freejack`
[20:06] <mustafam> jrib and ubottu: Thank you very much.. I am completely terrified by these commands as I still consider myself a novice when using Ubuntu. It's comforting to know that there is a live chat room we can refer to.
[20:07] <hoare> jrib: they arent restored upon login
[20:07] <Muelli> !audio | bifftannen
[20:07] <geirha> Guest82189: The login screen suddenly fixed itself?
[20:07] <Freejack`> jrib: thanks
[20:07] <jrib> hoare: cat ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs  on a pastebin
[20:07] <Guest82189> geirha  yea after multiple reboots
[20:07] <cablop> suppose i have an encrypted system and it fails.... can i recover it with ease?
[20:08] <halvors> Can anyone help me?
[20:08] <jrib> !helpme | halvors
[20:08] <hoare> jrib: all are $HOME except Desktop
[20:08] <cablop> i mean, maybe the root got damaged or after an update i lost the ability to boot or whatever... can i mount the encrypted filesystem from a different ubuntu with ease?
[20:08] <jrib> hoare: you know what to do
[20:08] <halvors> I ask, i got deleted "Auto eth0" how get this restored in network manager?
[20:09] <hoare> jrib: hmm I am not sure about the names. ie. what is normal name for PUBLICSHARE
[20:09] <hoare> jrib: can you paste yours?
[20:09] <jrib> hoare: /etc/xdg/user-dirs.defaults
[20:09] <jrib> hoare: wait, hold on
[20:10] <bifftannen> Muelli: sound works through xine though and when I run the test in gstreamer-properties
[20:10] <SubCool> i cant seem to get my samba to work. could someone help? i have dont a bunch of search, pretty sure i cleared my firewalls. I Have a Kubuntu box and an XP box. - neither can see eachother.
[20:10] <jrib> hoare: http://paste.ubuntu.com/485550/
[20:10] <Guest82189> THANKS for all the help everyone,, nice to see live support from caring people Computer fixed and working.. Have a great day!!!
[20:10] <mnord> Hi, I have a problem with Firefox. When I start it from the menu it appears in the panel for a second, then goes away. I see it in system monitor but that's all. I've tried reinstalling it with "aptitude install firefox" but no luck. Could someone please help me find out what the problem is?
[20:10] <jrib> mnord: open it from a terminal
[20:10] <Muelli> mnord: start it from a terminal
[20:10] <SeanInSeattle> Hey all.  I'm wondering if there's a program/application for ubuntu out there that can give me a better way to watch log files for new entries.  I'm specifically having to deal with apache error logs, but it'd be nice to get something that can watch other logs as well.
[20:11] <hoare> jrib: thanks a lot
[20:11] <Muelli> SeanInSeattle: logwatch maybe
[20:11] <themusicgod1> SeanInSeattle: so other than tail?
[20:11] <mnord> jrib, Muelli: Empty line, no messages in terminal, no Firefox opens. I see it in the system monitor though. firefox and firefox-bin
[20:12] <Muelli> mnord: there you go. it is already running.
[20:12] <Freejack`> jrib: I need the command  line version of that if there is one?
[20:12] <Muelli> mnord: you might want to kill it, i.e. pkill -HUP firefox. But you might lose data.
[20:12] <mnord> Muelli, no ït's not. When I kill it and try to start it same thing happens
[20:12] <cablop> is the ubuntu encryption the same as LUKS?
[20:12] <Muelli> mnord: it probably is. you haven't killed it thoroughly.
[20:13] <Muelli> mnord: check with ps aux | grep firefox
[20:13] <mnord> Muelli, same thing happens after reboot.
[20:13] <SeanInSeattle> themusicgod1:  Hmm.. being somewhat new to ubuntu, I haven't needed to use tail up to this point.  How would you use it to watch log files?
[20:13] <Muelli> mnord: it might be autostarted.
[20:13] <jrib> mnord: kill it now for us
[20:13] <Freejack`> !boot
[20:13] <mnord> Muelli, user   2544  0.0  0.0   3340   804 pts/0    S+   21:13   0:00 grep --color=auto firefox
[20:14] <Muelli> mnord: looks good. then "firefox; echo $?"
[20:14] <jrib> Freejack`: make sure smuxi-server doesn't already start up by itself...
[20:14] <SeanInSeattle> themusicgod1:  Nevermind.  I'll look at it online, and I'll come back with questions if I have any.
[20:14] <cccasket> SeanInSeattle - 'tail -f /some/file'
[20:15] <Freejack`> jrib: no it doesn't you have to add it
[20:15] <jrib> Freejack`: k
[20:15] <mnord> Muelli, same thing happens with the echo command
[20:15] <cccasket> seaninseattle: 'less' will emulate that behavior too with shift-F inside less
[20:15] <Muelli> mnord: what is that "same thing"? What does it print on the terminal?
[20:15] <CompuTom> where can I see a list of installed programs in Ubuntu10?
[20:15] <mnord> Muelli, that is, firefox appears in the system monitor, but doesn't print anything on terminal or appears as a usable program
[20:15] <Muelli> CompuTom: dpkg --get-selections
[20:16] <jrib> CompuTom: aptitude searh '~i'
[20:16] <jrib> CompuTom: aptitude search '~i'
[20:16] <Muelli> mnord: hm. not very nice. try to run the profile manager to create a new profile. Check firefox --help.
[20:16] <tazman> hello :)
[20:16] <mnord> Muelli, I tried the pkill -HUP firefox command right before doing the echo one so that might be a reason?
[20:18] <radi> guys, how do you change a directory permission to read/write ?
[20:18] <radi> from terminal
[20:18] <jrib> radi: what directory and why?
[20:18] <radi> doesnt matter
[20:18] <radi> any
[20:18] <hoare> radi: chown chgrp
[20:18] <jrib> radi: it does matter.  Changing permissions is a great way to break your install.
[20:18] <hoare> radi: be careful while using. try --help
[20:18] <mnord> Muelli, I created a new profile and with that I could open Firefox, not with the old one though. Thanks for the help!
[20:19] <jrib> mnord: try firefox --safe-mode on the old profile
[20:19] <Muelli> mnord: well. at least you know what to look for now. There might be stale lock files in your old profile, so you can go off and search there now.
[20:19] <radi> jrib: just wanna change permissions to some directory, so other application can write there
[20:19] <jrib> radi: what directory...?
[20:19] <radi> empty directory :D
[20:20] <hoare> mnord: you can try --profile-manager too
[20:20] <jrib> radi: k, gl
[20:20] <Muelli> mnord: a very geeky thing to do would be running strace -f and then digging through that pile of output. Maybe it yields results quickly, like a stale read() on a filedescriptor
[20:20] <radi> ..
[20:20] <mnord> I think I'll just delete the old profile, use the new one and hope things don't go bad again :) Thanks for all the help!
[20:20] <jrib> radi: you don't answer a simple question, I can't help you
[20:21] <radi> jrib: that is the answer, it is an empty directory -.-
[20:21] <jrib> radi: what path
[20:21] <cablop> weird...
[20:22] <cablop> is LUKS what ubuntu use for full disk encryption?
[20:22] <radi> its /home/user/dir jrib
[20:22] <jrib> !permissions > radi
[20:22] <cablop> i just want to know if i can boot a failed system in case of need
[20:22] <zizzfizzix> guys, where's /boot/grub/menu.lst or any equivalent in latest ubu?
[20:22] <radi> tnx
[20:22] <Muelli> cablop: yes.
[20:22] <jrib> !grub2 | zizzfizzix
[20:23] <Muelli> cablop: you could boot with a Ubuntu CD or pendrive (I think).
[20:23] <cablop> thanks Muelli... so i think, if i have the pass i can 'mount' it and read the files and recover things...
[20:23] <Flannel> zizzfizzix: /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[20:23] <bsdpunk_> Can someone help me upgrade to KDE 4.5 on ubuntu? im a noob
[20:23] <zizzfizzix> Flannel: thx
[20:23] <lastidiot> h :) i have slight problem with my Ubuntu, when text moves for example scrolling up the words become mixed or scrambled with other lines, if i highlight it, it become readable, i do have the nvidia drivers installed but its done it since i installed ubuntu
[20:24] <Flannel> zizzfizzix: But you should read that page, as the functionality is a little bit different (changes to that file don't stick)
[20:24] <Muelli> cablop: yes. That's what I needed to do once. But back then the live cd didn't ship the LUKS tools (or whatever it was) so I had to apt-get install them. Minor hassle.
[20:24] <cablop> bsdpunk_: i'm not a KDE user, but afaik you just need to enable the right repositories and install the whole KDE thing
[20:24] <cablop> Muelli: yes, a minor issue
[20:24] <bsdpunk_> ;_; I don't know how, lol. @cablop
[20:24] <cablop> Muelli, do you have a link to see it?
[20:25] <cablop> well, cause this think is a netbook, i think i'll install a minimal ubuntu just to be able to recover things in case of need :P
[20:25] <marco_ubuntu_88> Buonasera
[20:25] <kisuke> oh how do you convert a ext4 FS to est3?
[20:25] <deusr> hi, my phone is muted, the sound comes out only in cases of my notebook, someone can you help me?
[20:25] <kisuke> ext*
[20:25] <cablop> but the hard part is how to tell the stupid grub2 which ubuntu is the default one, sigh
[20:25] <SubCool> i cant seem to get my samba to work. could someone help? i have dont a bunch of search, pretty sure i cleared my firewalls. I Have a Kubuntu box and an XP box. - neither can see eachother.
[20:26] <OpenSourceCode> How can you see which kernel you have?
[20:26] <Gnea> cat /proc/version
[20:26] <Muelli> OpenSourceCode: uname -a
[20:26] <Gnea> OpenSourceCode: ^^
[20:26] <Misterio> kisuke: You can do it with gParted, but it has no sense
[20:26] <Gnea> kisuke: backup, clean, rinse, restore
[20:26] <cablop> if i install two ubuntus... how can i tell grub2 wich one is the default one?
[20:26] <kisuke> Misterio, ok modify a file then puyll the plug and tell me where your modifiactions th that file went.
[20:27] <cablop> what is the minimal space needed for a minimal ubuntu install?
[20:27] <kisuke> cablop, why would you install 2 ubuntus?
[20:27] <slow-motion> n8
[20:27] <cablop> 4GB? 10 GB?
[20:27] <SubCool> cablop, goto ur grub editor and change the name...
[20:28] <cablop> kisuke, one is encrypted, the other for recovery purpose in case of need
[20:28] <kisuke> cablop, why nott just use recovery mode?
[20:28] <deusr> hi, someone?
[20:28] <cablop> kisuke: cause it is a netbook and there's no place to use a CD
[20:28] <Gnea> deusr: just ask your question
[20:28] <cablop> kisuke, cause it is encrypted... eguess what could happen if the system fails after a kernel upgrade or something
[20:28] <deusr> Gnea,  my phone is muted, the sound comes out only in cases of my notebook, someone can you help me?
[20:29] <Gnea> deusr: what does your phone have to do with it?
[20:29] <cablop> i think there's an esotheric connection in there
[20:30] <deusr> Gnea, sorry, is headphone
[20:30] <Aimee> got ubuntu running on a retardedly slow machine
[20:31] <Aimee> Hmm
[20:31] <Gnea> deusr: okay, so the headphone jack could be borked, and the speakers on the notebook are fine?
[20:31] <kisuke> desur gointo your sound prefrences and click mute external speakers (it something like that its been a while sence ive had to do that)
[20:31] <Aimee> Is there anyything i can do to minimalize usage of the cpu
[20:31] <Aimee> like, disabling advanced things
[20:31] <Gnea> Aimee: funny, it's those 'retardly' slow machines that allow anyone to see what code really does and how it's to be understood
[20:31] <cablop> deusr: how many places for jack does your notebook have? one or two?
[20:31] <Aimee> Gnea: Yeah
[20:32] <Aimee> I enjoyed watching every single screen
[20:32] <Aimee> but when i mean slow.. i mean
[20:32] <kisuke> Aimee, you caould disable services you dont use, like blue tooth if you do not have a blue tooth adapter
[20:32] <deusr> Gnea, my notebook uses sound room
[20:32] <Gnea> Aimee: well, heh, that's gnome for ya
[20:32] <cablop> Aimee: you can use xfce4 too
[20:32] <Gnea> deusr: I don't understand the concept of 'soundroom'
[20:32] <Aimee> gnea: it's going through the first big update wave now
[20:32] <cablop> but i think disabling compiz and matacity will work for you
[20:33] <Gnea> Aimee: using gnome is your first mistake. get rid of that and put something decent on there, like E17
[20:33] <cablop> aimee, except if your problem is... you don't have drivers enabled and then using slow graphics
[20:33] <peturi> I'm sharing my computer with another, we both have our own username and we use the 'switch user' button while taking burns using the computer. The problem is that I would like to remotely log into my active session using VNC but all i get is a black screen if the other user session is active and mine is locked. How can i solve this?
[20:33] <Mp3> hi people :)
[20:33] <Gnea> or use xubuntu, if you're a purist and need an 'official' version of everything on there :)
[20:34] <cablop> peturi you can use a different approach, you can use Teamviewer and be sure it opens from the session start
[20:34] <dart> Aimee, go to startup applications under prefrences  and disable all those you don't want...
[20:34] <kisuke> peturi, have you tried moving the mouse or fressing a key on the remote machine?
[20:34] <Gnea> deusr: did you open alsamixer?
[20:34] <kisuke> Mp3, hey
[20:34] <peturi> cablop: I'm not sharing the session, i have two concurrent users logged into the computer at all times.
[20:34] <Mp3> got a wierd issue with my server install. for some reason, i can access my server over the LAN just fine, and DNS works great.. but it apparently cant connect to anything outside of the lan.
[20:34] <deusr> cablop, an output (sound) and one for input (mic)
[20:34] <Mp3> kisuke: sup :)
[20:35] <deusr> Gnea, yes
[20:35] <Gnea> deusr: do you have any other headphones to try out?
[20:35] <timbuck> hello
[20:35] <timbuck> hello  i want to add the MINT repo to ubuntu
[20:35] <Guest98471> probando
[20:35] <LinuxGuy2009> Does Gnome have any feature where you can place a graphic file in a folder and have the system automatically see it and set the icon for that folder to the image? Or do you have to manually set them all by hand?
[20:35] <peturi> kisuke: yes i tried. My session won't work unless i switch back to my own users and log him in (unlock the session). which also makes my user account vulnerable as the computer is unlocked while i'm away.
[20:35] <cablop> peturi... ah, sorry, what you need to do is to know what x session is your account in, but the black screen sounds just weird, i think you need to move the mouse and the login thing will appear
[20:35] <timbuck> how can i add the mint repo in ubuntu
[20:35] <kisuke> !mint > timbuck
[20:35] <deusr> Gnea, is any configuration, because it worked well in gentoo
[20:35] <Rob235> hey
[20:36] <timbuck> thx
[20:36] <peturi> cablop: Won't work, even tried pressing the 'send ctrl+alt+del'.
[20:36] <Rob235> whats the best way to install nvidia drivers in lucid?
[20:36] <xangua> timbuck: not a good idea combine repositories
[20:36] <cablop> what is the minimal disk requirement for lucid?
[20:36] <Gnea> deusr: what I'm asking is, are you sure your headphones are not broken?
[20:36] <timbuck> xangua, pleae i want to get the wallpapers and themes
[20:36] <kisuke> Rob235, look under "restricted drivers" in system>adminstration
[20:36] <timbuck> xangua, and maybe some other stuff idk
[20:36] <LinuxGuy2009> !requirements
[20:37] <kisuke> cablop, 4GB i beleve, but 5 is better for some breathing room
[20:37] <Rob235> kisuke, you mean hardware drivers?
[20:37] <timbuck> can someone please help me
[20:37] <Rob235> i dont see restricted
[20:37] <timbuck> please
[20:37] <deusr> Gnea, no, but that this working, I've tested on two computers. and when I plug it, still leaving sound externally, it is as if I had not plugged into the headphone
[20:37] <xangua> timbuck: sudo apt-get install gnome-colors shiki-colors (icons and gtk/metacity)
[20:37] <Gnea> !patience | timbuck
[20:37] <kisuke> Rob235, thats it
[20:37] <cablop> peturi disable screensaver, i mean set it to blank in your session and retry... i have an issue related to the screensaver and i changed it to the space slideshow and i can log, if i let an opengl screensaver shows up i can't see any login box, it is there, but invisible
[20:37] <timbuck> yeah but i want the repo awe but thx for ur help
[20:38] <Rob235> kisuke, those arent the latest drivers though, i want to use the ones from nvidias site but nouveau has to be disabled
[20:38] <timbuck> um how do you copy do i have to manually type that dam
[20:38] <Gnea> deusr: okay, do you have another pair of headphones or speakers to plug in to the computers with?
[20:38] <Milp_main> Does openbox-session need something else to work with? when i start it on my display it just displays an empty screen.
[20:38] <cablop> do ubuntu automatically use any swap or do i need to explicitly say it which one to use?
[20:38] <deusr> Gnea, I'm working perfectly, as I said, I tested on two computers and are working perfectly
[20:38] <peturi> cablop: The screensaver is disabled. The session is 'locked' and there is another user logged on at the physical machine.
[20:39] <LinuxGuy2009> Rob235: remove the package called something like "xserver-xorg-video-nouveau" then try and install as the same as older ubuntu versions.
[20:39] <Rob235> ok thanks
[20:39] <kisuke> Rob235, not sure how to help you there, for most thinng s the drivers avalible from there will work.
[20:39] <Gnea> deusr: do you speak spanish well?
[20:39] <timbuck> hey thats not going to work
[20:39] <VCoolio> Milp_main: right click the desktop; put a panel and stuff in autostart file, use a howto somewhere
[20:39] <peturi> cablop: My user is logged in from :0 and the other user from :2 ...
[20:40] <cablop> peturi... try this, sounds weird but try
[20:40] <Milp_main> VCoolio i cant rightclick :(
[20:40] <deusr> Gnea, my god!, I said this phone is working. Last week I was with gentoo and the sound was coming out in the headphones, after I installed ubuntu stopped working, leaves only externally
[20:40] <timbuck> ok how can i get all the mint wallpapers   including the  extra  and  previous realeases
[20:40] <peturi> cablop: Thanks, will try once the machine is free again :)
[20:41] <cablop> when you see the blank screen do nothing, just type your password and press enter and see if it starts your session, maybe there's some lucid bug that avoid showing visibly that promt, but the promt is there
[20:41] <VCoolio> Milp_main: hmm maybe that also requires a package like openbox-menu or something; find a decent beginners howto on openbox, you just need to set up some things
[20:41] <kisuke> !mint | timbuck
[20:41] <Gnea> deusr: Calm down, I asked that because we're obviously having a communication/understanding issue here. There's no need to get upset about it.
[20:41] <cablop> peturi, when you see the blank screen do nothing, just type your password and press enter and see if it starts your session, maybe there's some lucid bug that avoid showing visibly that promt, but the promt is there
[20:41] <deusr> Gnea, I understand Spanish well, but I speak Portuguese
[20:41] <Gnea> deusr: I see.
[20:41] <deusr> Gnea, sorry:/
[20:41] <discozohan> how to create primary partition of type "fd" ( Linux raid autodetect ) ? -.-
[20:41] <Gnea> deusr: no problem
[20:42] <calk> hello, i have used GParted to lower the space on my ubuntu partition which worked fine and it created unallocated space, how do i merged this unallocated space with another partition ? there is no merge and the other partition doesn't get resized to bigger and can use that space
[20:42] <VanessaE> Is there a way to get xfce's mixer to *not* show some devices in its drop down menu?  Some of them are making the window ridiculously wide
[20:42] <Gnea> deusr: it may be to your benefit to ask in #ubuntu-pt, because I know that if we continue like this, *I* will get upset :)
[20:42] <timbuck> kisuke, yeah  is there a mint channel i can join
[20:42] <peturi> cablop: I can see the remote mouse cursor, it laags in front of a black screen. I don't want to start a new session.. i already have one running .. would just like to resume it.
[20:42] <kisuke> calk, just to make sure i under stand you right, you shrunk a partition and wat to ad that space to another partition?
[20:42] <deusr> Gnea, ok!, thanks!
[20:42] <Milp_main> Vcoolio thank you, found my mistake ;)
[20:43] <Gnea> deusr: and good luck!
[20:43] <timbuck> kisuke, is there a mint channel i can join
[20:43] <Milp_main> Vcoolio do you happen to know if openbox is as lightweight as fluxbox?
[20:43] <hiexpo> !mint
[20:43] <kisuke> !mintsupport | timbuck
[20:43] <timbuck> how do i join that
[20:43] <calk> kisuke: yes, i noticed one is on far left and one is on far right, could this be the problem because the shrunked partition is in the middle ?
[20:43] <timbuck> \join then what
[20:43] <hiexpo> #mint
[20:43] <Gnea> !mintsupport
[20:43] <timbuck> thx
[20:44] <timbuck> thx alot yall
[20:44] <VCoolio> Milp_main: I don't think there is much difference; a link I found: http://urukrama.wordpress.com/openbox-guide/
[20:44] <hiexpo> hey Gnea
[20:44] <Gnea> sup hiexpo
[20:44] <cablop> hey... i think people has some answers... but why they won't come up?
[20:44] <kisuke> calk, yes the un aloocated space and the partition you want to expand need to be rifght next to eachother
[20:44] <timbuck> i cant register mint  ( its WAY WAY WAY too complicated)
[20:44] <Milp_main> vcoolio awesome, hope its faster than lxde
[20:45] <nebula> !web
[20:45] <timbuck> kisuke, i dont know how to register mint servers
[20:45] <timbuck> or any server
[20:45] <cablop> does ubuntu use automatically any swap partition? or does ubuntu just use them if i say it to use them from /etc/fstab?
[20:45] <Gnea> timbuck: why would you need to?
[20:45] <calk> kisuke: can i move the middle part to far right then merge the middle with the left ? (middle part is ubuntu)
[20:45] <hiexpo> Gnea,  chilling channel hoping   ya know me
[20:45] <VCoolio> Milp_main: lxde IS openbox with several applications on it
[20:45] <Gnea> timbuck: 14:45 <ubottu> Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu, please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org
[20:45] <kisuke> timbuck, try clicking: irc://irc.spotchat.org/linuxmint-help
[20:46] <cablop> awww
[20:46] <killer999> how to install google earth in Ubuntu...I got a .bin file from google website
[20:46] <Gnea> hiexpo: :)
[20:46] <Gnea> killer999: don't install that, delete it.
[20:46] <cablop> does ubuntu automount swap partitions? the live-cd do, but i don't know if an installed ubuntu also does
[20:46] <Gnea> !medibuntu | killer999
[20:46] <erUSUL> cablop: the livecd will use the swaps it finds a installed system only the ones specified afaik
[20:46] <Gnea> killer999: setup medibuntu and install it from there
[20:47] <cablop> thanks erUSUL
[20:47] <cablop> hey erUSUL nice to see you here
[20:47] <killer999> Gnea, why?
[20:47] <xangua> !medibuntu | killer999
[20:47] <xangua> install 'googleearch package  from medibuntu
[20:47] <kisuke> calk, let me get this straight, your hadr drive looks like <partition><ubuntu><partition><free space>?
[20:47] <erUSUL> cablop: ty
[20:47] <killer999> Gnea, ok
[20:47] <Gnea> killer999: because the .bin will just mess things up or get messed up
[20:47] <xangua> googleearth*
[20:47] <hiexpo> killer999, just add the repos
[20:48] <calk> kisuke: to be clear <windows vista with 5mb free><ubuntu with 5GB free><free space which i want to merge with windows vista)
[20:48] <ELREY> i just added a hard disk and create a partition using cfdisk /dev/sdb, then created a "linux" partition.. how can I mount it now?? mount -t ext3 /dev/sdb /media/disk throws can't find ext3 filesystem on /dev/sdb
[20:48] <malikeye> how does the netbook version compare to jolicloud?
[20:48] <erUSUL> ELREY: you have to format it first
[20:48] <malikeye> jolicloud limits too many things for linux nuts :P
[20:49] <malikeye> I mean, in what way is it "optimized"?
[20:49] <discozohan> if i want to create raid10, should i mark all 4 drives with "extended" or "primary" partition ?
[20:49] <erUSUL> ELREY: sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdxx
[20:49] <xangua> malikeye: better try the offtopic channel
[20:49] <erUSUL> discozohan: primary
[20:49] <kisuke> calk, drag the ubuntu partition to the end of the drive and then expand t5he windows partition
[20:49] <malikeye> why would it be off topic?
[20:50] <boldfilter> Anyway to use two internet connection at once? dsl and wired tether.
[20:50] <discozohan> erUSUL: but as i remember there can be only 4 primary partitions, but i already have a drive for root system. Or its ok ?
[20:50] <kisuke> ELREY, try ext4 or ext 2
[20:50] <calk> kisuke: it doesn't get dragged i tried it
[20:50] <killer999> how to add medibuntu repos
[20:50] <kisuke> calk, try from a live CD
[20:50] <cablop> malikeye: afaik, the netbook edition is alike the normal edition, but optimized for the screen space
[20:50] <calk> kisuke: ies i'm booted from usb drive now
[20:50] <calk> yes*
[20:51] <kisuke> calk, it may not let you move the ubuntu partition because it is inuse
[20:51] <erUSUL> discozohan: yes, there can only be four primary in each disk. but you are going to have one part. per disk right? (maybe i undertood wrongly )
[20:51] <malikeye> cablop: what does that mean?
[20:51] <klappi> is there a channel where i can ask about which mainboard to buy for lucid?
[20:51] <malikeye> like I'm looking at a screenshot, and it looks like it has an app launcher
[20:51] <cablop> and i agree with malikeye to talkabout the netbook edition is not offtopic
[20:51] <calk> kisuke: its not insure i was able to shrink it, why cant i use copy and paste into a newer partition ?
[20:51] <discozohan> erUSUL: oh, i got it, i thought there can be 4 primary in system at all. My bad ;)
[20:51] <malikeye> I mean, I guess I'll just install it and see :)
[20:51] <erUSUL> klappi: any mobo should work ok in linux. most problematic hardware is wifi cards; vga cards and maybe webcams
[20:52] <erUSUL> discozohan: no problem
[20:52] <kisuke> calk, have you tried clicking in the middle of the ubuntu partition and draging it to the far right end?
[20:52] <cablop> malikeye, that it gets rid of window borders and use a different 'taskbar' and other things... but i'm not sure, but as far as is ee in the screensots it's just a stripped down windows manager
[20:52] <calk> kisuke: yes didn't work, i think because the partition is not formatted ?
[20:52] <malikeye> cablop: cool, I'll give it a go
[20:52] <malikeye> thanks :)
[20:53] <klappi> erUSUL: my current board only boots 1 out 3 tries, and i want to buy a cheap new one
[20:53] <kisuke> calk, ok now im confused, is there any thing on the ubuntu partiton?
[20:53] <calk> kisuke: yes around 5GB
[20:53] <cablop> malikeye, i'm not sure if the current version work this way, but i saw one that's just placed on top of a normal installation, that is you enable it, then your gui changes, you disable it and you get the standard gui, and in a youtube video some compiz effects can work on top a netbook edition, :D
[20:54] <malikeye> cablop: cool, I have a Dell Mini 1012 and it's pretty nice, but jolicloud dumbs things down too much
[20:54] <kisuke> calk, then the partition is formated, have you tried expanding the partition to the end of the drive and then shinking it infront of the ubuntu partition?
[20:54] <cablop> would a small ubuntu, intended just for recovery usage fit inside a 5GB partition?
[20:55] <erUSUL> !minimal | cablop
[20:55] <killer999> how to get medibuntu? I want to install google earth
[20:55] <LinuxGuy2009> malikeye: If your considering Ubuntu Netbook, I use it on my Dell Mini 10v and love it.
[20:55] <erUSUL> !medibuntu | killer999
[20:55] <cablop> malikeye: the guy that sayid you can use the netbook edition on top the normal edition,so you won't be stripped down, jjust the gui :P
[20:56] <kisuke> LinuxGuy2009, isint that one of the ones with the bcm4312 wifi chipset?
[20:56] <cablop> no, not a medibuntu, i need to be able to open all files and mount encrypted file systems just if i need to... i don't want to use a stripped down edition, just to install an ubuntu and leave it instaled there :P
[20:56] <LinuxGuy2009> kisuke: yep
[20:56] <kisuke> LinuxGuy2009, *shudder* i set up a dell mini 9 with that, didnt sleep for a week.
[20:57] <LinuxGuy2009> kisuke: haha Its a peice of cake. All the needed packages to enable the driver are on the live CD.
[20:58] <malikeye> thanks LinuxGuy2009
[20:58] <kisuke> LinuxGuy2009, which disk did you use?
[20:58] <LinuxGuy2009> kisuke: just the standard live CD.
[20:58] <malikeye> cablop: can't even get a terminal really... you can, but you gotta do "Start -> Run-> Gnome Terminal".... no way to add that as an "App" or anything
[20:58] <malikeye> that is too limiting for me
[20:59] <Gnea> killer999: by adding it to your repository list. you have to go to the website and read the repository howto to get your system to 'know' where the repository is and what software is there.
[21:00] <kisuke> LinuxGuy2009, jaunty,karmic or lucid?
[21:00] <rastmust> Januque
[21:00] <LinuxGuy2009> kisuke: The packages have been on the CD since like 8.04 or 9.04. But I have Lucid installed.
[21:01] <calk> kisuke: i did few testing and this is what i have so far: <windows vista /dev/sda1> <unallocated> </dev/sda5 ubuntu> after i created new partition at the end then copied the middle to the end right , still i cant resize vista into the unallocated space
[21:02] <hoare> guys, what does apt-get -f install do?
[21:02] <calk> for some reason the copied ubunti sits inside the /dev/sda2
[21:02] <killer999> Gnea, ok....i am not adding the repo. I have downloaded google earth and google earth data from medibuntu. they are debs so I can install. Its ok to do this?
[21:03] <calk> kisuke: i think i got the problem, its because the unallocated and ubuntu /dev/sda5 both sites inside the extended /dev/sda2 ?
[21:04] <boldfilter> How do I mangle two internet connections
[21:05] <kisuke> calk, so the ubuntu partition and the free space are in your extende3d partition while windows is not?
[21:05] <boldfilter> Is there an easy way
[21:05] <calk> kisuke: yeah
[21:05] <aeon-ltd> boldfilter: use one only :)
[21:05] <kisuke> boldfilter, define "mangle"
[21:05] <Makuseru> Hi, im having a problem. I restarted my computer this morning, and when it started back up a popup opened and said "Removed Sound Devices" and listed under it is every sound device. And if i go into Multimedia in system settings everything is grayed out except for "Jack Audio Connection Kit" How can i get all my other devices back so i can have sound again?
[21:05] <boldfilter> mangle: Combining two internet connections
[21:05] <Alonsoenproblema> hi somebody to talk on spanish?
[21:05] <aeon-ltd> !es | Alonsoenproblema
[21:05] <kisuke> calk ok, resize the extended partiton so the free spsace is next to windows.
[21:05] <Alonsoenproblema> grax
[21:06] <boldfilter> Not easy ok then
[21:06] <calk> kisuke: after moving ubuntu to the right first? or keep the free space in the middle?
[21:07] <hoare> guys, what does apt-get -f install do?
[21:07] <kisuke> move ubuntu to the right, resize the extended partion to the size of the ubuntu partition and expand the windows partiton to encompasss the free space
[21:07] <jrenner> hey guys I'm having some wireless issues anyone wanna help me out?
[21:07] <kisuke> calk, move ubuntu to the right, resize the extended partion to the size of the ubuntu partition and expand the windows partiton to encompasss the free space
[21:07] <Gnea> !wireless | jrenner
[21:08] <jrenner>  ubottu I'm aware. and I've done quite a lot of reading. just can't get the dang thing to work
[21:08] <savingmem> i installed lucid on a Pentium III laptop with 256 MB RAM, everything works ok. i am not using gnome but the very memory friendly icewm and have disabled all unneeded services. is there any other system configuration thing that i can do to save RAM? No kernel compilation, please.
[21:08] <jrenner> anyone well versed in the dark art that is wireless cards
[21:08] <kisuke> jrenner, what jkind of PC are you using?
[21:09] <jrenner> homemade. lucky me :P
[21:09] <kisuke> jrenner, what is your wireless card?
[21:09] <calk> kisuke: moving the partition alot won't kill the data right ? :D
[21:09] <jrenner> the wireless card is a zonet zew1642
[21:09] <eriksson25> Anyone know whats wrong when I try to boot a newly updated 10.04 from 9.10 and it gives be a complete green screen.
[21:09] <jrenner> its a ralink device (so says lspci)
[21:10] <kisuke> calk, any partition operation has the potential to kill data, so no more than anything else that would kill the data there
[21:10] <LinuxGuy2009> jrenner: Did you add the live CD as a repo source and check System->Admin->Hardware Drivers?
[21:10] <kisuke> jrenner, sorry i kn ow nothing about ralink stuff :( try googleing the error code?
[21:10] <osiaq> .
[21:10] <osiaq> Sorry test
[21:11] <jrenner> linuxguy2009 lemme try.
[21:12] <hoare> guys, what does apt-get -f install do?
[21:12] <jrenner> hoare: skips confirmation I believe
[21:12] <calk> hoare: type man apt-get
[21:12] <AnxiousNut> how can i show grub when the PC first starts? i tried Esc but no luck!
[21:12] <jrenner> anxioiusnut: shift key I think
[21:12] <calk>        -f, --fix-broken
[21:12] <erUSUL> AnxiousNut: shift in grub2
[21:12] <radi> did it http://81.178.167.13/vnstat :P
[21:12] <calk> read more there
[21:13] <mobaser> hi can anyone help me with grub issues please unable to boot into ubuntu
[21:13] <calk> mobaser: what error msg are you getting?
[21:13] <kisuke> !grub | mobaser
[21:13] <AnxiousNut> erUSUL, jrenner: thanks it works!
[21:14] <tom> how can u see what graphics drivers are install in ubunty
[21:15] <calk> tom: lspci in terminal
[21:15] <kisuke>  /msg kisuke irc:/irc.mozilla.org
[21:15] <tom> thanks :)
[21:15] <mininessie>  i know clean installs are the way to go but i want to uncleanly install 10.10 from 10.04 is alpha 3 stable enough to do that and is broadcom supported in the alpha
[21:15] <calk> tom: ur welcome, cool nickname u have there
[21:16] <tom> what, tom?
[21:16] <jrenner> LinuxGuy2009: okay using the cd didn't give me anything
[21:16] <calk> yeah, thought it was yours :D seems not
[21:16] <mininessie>  i know clean installs are the way to go but i want to uncleanly install 10.10 from 10.04 is alpha 3 stable enough to do that and is broadcom supported in the alpha
[21:16] <LinuxGuy2009> jrenner: Does the card just not work at all?
[21:16] <Makuseru> Hi, im having a problem. I restarted my computer this morning, and when it started back up a popup opened and said "Removed Sound Devices" and listed under it is every sound device. And if i go into Multimedia in system settings everything is grayed out except for "Jack Audio Connection Kit" How can i get all my other devices back so i can have sound again?
[21:16] <jrenner> the card shows up in network tools....
[21:16] <scans> hello, i need program for design flash
[21:16] <mininessie>  i know clean installs are the way to go but i want to uncleanly install 10.10 from 10.04 is alpha 3 stable enough to do that and is broadcom supported in the alpha
[21:16] <calk> scans: search in software center
[21:17] <jaredx> hey i want to stop a process running in background :P
[21:17] <LinuxGuy2009> jrenner: Can you see any networks in network-manager?
[21:17] <kisuke> mininessie, why do you wnat to upgrade?
[21:17] <jaredx> sorry im a noob
[21:17] <mininessie> kisuke, cause i just do
[21:17] <calk> jaredx: in terminal ps aux |grep process then kill -9 the PID
[21:17] <kisuke> mininessie, and nowhere near stable enough
[21:17] <soraxx> hi
[21:17] <soraxx> poly request too large or internal Xlib length error
[21:17] <jaredx> thnx calk
[21:17] <soraxx> ATI 10.8 FAIL
[21:18] <calk> jaredx: ur welcome
[21:18] <jrenner> LinuxGuy2009: nope... well I turned on manual ifupdown so I have ifupdown from ra0 (the card) but no networks
[21:18] <Gnea> soraxx: nvidia FTW
[21:18] <jrenner> LinuxGuy2009: there's not even a section for wireless networks
[21:18] <soraxx> i can't run gdm or metacity
[21:18] <LinuxGuy2009> jrenner: What laptop make and model?
[21:18] <surgy> !el
[21:18] <surgy> !espanol
[21:19] <calk> !arabic
[21:19] <jrenner> LinuxGuy2009: home-made desktop :P the card is a zonet zew1642
[21:19] <vintner> what is the command to force eth0 to get an ip on 10.04?
[21:19] <scans> Gnea: am new in ubuntu and i do search befor i ask
[21:19] <LinuxGuy2009> jrenner: Yeah sounds like a generic card and support might not be there for it.
[21:20] <kisuke> ok how do you defragmenta NTFS partition on ubuntu?
[21:20] <nocture> hi, im using ubuntu 10.04, and having problems with firefox
[21:20] <jrenner> LinuxGuy2009: any chance ndiswrapper might work?
[21:20] <calk> kisuke: growing the partition did not work
[21:21] <sebsebseb> !details | nocture
[21:21] <nocture> opening images slows everything down, and it freezes a bit
[21:21] <kisuke> calk what was the error?
[21:21] <nocture> especially if i use google images, it almost kills firefox
[21:21] <soraxx> fglrx from repositories crash too
[21:21] <sebsebseb> nocture: ok does that happen when Flash is also opended?
[21:21] <LinuxGuy2009>  jrenner: Sure woudnt hurt to try. Ive never used it myself so have no clue what is involved.
[21:21] <nocture> no
[21:21] <calk> kisuke: old start: number , old end: number old size: number
[21:21] <kthomas_vh> does apache2.2.11 obey RCPULimit under jaunty?
[21:21] <nocture> i opened this image e.g. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/22/BashTuDHL757.png, the browser freezes alot when its loading the image
[21:21] <mkanyicy> nocture, is your network fast enough?
[21:21] <kisuke> check the windows partiton and the ntry it again.
[21:21] <calk> ah
[21:22] <nocture> yes, 100/100 mbit
[21:22] <calk> under libparted messages
[21:22] <calk> can't have overlapping partitions
[21:22] <calk> seems my drag overlapped by mistake
[21:22] <madf0x> !hi | madf0x
[21:22] <Makuseru> Hi, im having a problem. I restarted my computer this morning, and when it started back up a popup opened and said "Removed Sound Devices" and listed under it is every sound device. And if i go into Multimedia in system settings everything is grayed out except for "Jack Audio Connection Kit" How can i get all my other devices back so i can have sound again?
[21:22] <bhang> Muelli: just forgot to say thanks for the apt-cache policy info to sort out my dependency issues with libsoprano4 and soprano-daemon: THX! made my day
[21:23] <aeon-ltd> Makuseru: try reinsatlling alsa?
[21:23] <jrenner> LinuxGuy2009: *grumblegrumble* should've gone name-brand....
[21:23] <soraxx> Gedit crash too
[21:23] <vintner> what is the command to force eth0 to get an ip on 10.04?
[21:23] <soraxx> Chrome crash
[21:23] <kisuke> !patence > Makuseru
[21:23] <jrenner> vintner: you mean a static ip?
[21:23] <calk> Makuseru: did you do any updates recently ?
[21:23] <soraxx> GTK based apps crash
[21:23] <Muelli> bhang: I'm glad it helped :-)
[21:23] <rockhopper> vintner, are you connected to dynamic or static?
[21:23] <erUSUL> vintner: maybe: sudo dhclient eth0
[21:23] <mkanyicy> vintner, ifconfig
[21:23] <Makuseru> aeon-ltd: that was the first thing i tried and it didnt help
[21:23] <Milp_main> Ok i now have openbox running via vnc but the keyboard layout is completely messed up, how can that be?
[21:24] <Makuseru> calk: I didnt.
[21:24] <kisuke> !patience > Makuseru
[21:24] <aeon-ltd> Makuseru: what updates/changes were applied
[21:24] <vintner> well, just to get one. had this issue before and some command that forced it to get ip fixed it
[21:25] <LinuxGuy2009> jrenner: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833130057
[21:25] <Makuseru> aeon-ltd: you mean when i reinstalled alsa?
[21:25] <kalle> someone said i hade to add /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf to /etc/apache2/apache2.conf but there is no such file, how to use phpmyadmin ?
[21:25] <LinuxGuy2009> jrenner:  Says it worked out of the box on 10.04.
[21:26] <eriksson25> Anyone that could help me boot up my 10.04. says /bin/sh cant access tty; job controll turned off (initramfs)
[21:26] <calk> kalle: do you have /etc/apache* in the first place ?
[21:26] <itsux2bu> kalle, no /etc/apach2/apach2.conf file?
[21:27] <UndiFineD> how do I get a little more output during dpkg operations ? I installed postfix-dovecot and after integration operations it just hangs there
[21:27] <itsux2bu> kalle, no /etc/apache2/apach2.conf file?
[21:27] <itsux2bu> ugh..
[21:27] <itsux2bu> kalle, no /etc/apache2/apache2.conf file?
[21:27] <kisuke> UndiFineD, have you tried ebox?
[21:27] <timewriter> hi
[21:27] <jrenner> LinuxGuy2009: huh.... maybe I need to do a clean install...
[21:27] <itsux2bu> kalle, you a desktop or command line usr?
[21:27] <UndiFineD> no
[21:27] <kalle> i have the apache conf files but no conf file for phpmyadmin
[21:28] <LinuxGuy2009>  jrenner: My thoughts exaclty.
[21:28] <timewriter> !chinese
[21:28] <mininessie> can i make ubuntu rolling release
[21:28] <vintner> the sudo command worked...dunno why i have to keep entering that, dhcp is enabled..
[21:28] <jrenner> LinuxGuy2009: its prolly an issue cuz I installed the card after ubuntu
[21:28] <eriksson25> Anyone that could help me boot up my 10.04. says /bin/sh cant access tty; job controll turned off (initramfs)
[21:28] <madf0x> vintner security reasons :)
[21:28] <erUSUL> vintner: add an entry for wth0 to /etc/network/interfaces
[21:28] <kisuke> !nfs
[21:29] <LinuxGuy2009>  jrenner: Well its like a pig ina poke when you dont know what packages or configuring is needed when adding the card after install.
[21:29] <calk> kisuke: things worked, thank you a lot for your help :)
[21:29] <mininessie> can i make ubuntu rolling release
[21:29] <vintner> ok thanks guys
[21:29] <kisuke> calk, np
[21:29] <LinuxGuy2009>  jrenner: Try a live CD boot and see if it works in the live environment and then go from there.
[21:29] <itsux2bu> kalle, when you add   "/etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf"   to /etc/apache2/apache2.conf ?
[21:29] <mininessie> can i make ubuntu rolling release
[21:29] <erUSUL> vintner: this command « printf "%s\n%s\n" "auto eth0" "iface eth0 inet dhcp" | sudo tee -a /etc/network/interfaces »
[21:30] <calk> mininessie: what do you mean?
[21:30] <marius`> lol
[21:30] <itsux2bu> kalle, what happens?
[21:30] <hiexpo> oh b oy
[21:30] <timh____> i had a hd crash and was forced to do a fresh install of 10.04.  after that I had to go through and reinstall all the programs I had previously used (i.e. blender, vlc, etc.).  This time I kept a list of things to reinstall for next time, but is there a log file somewhere that would show me what I installed myself, and when
[21:30] <UndiFineD> kisuke, ebox is too bloated for what i need
[21:30] <erUSUL> !clone | timh____
[21:31] <kisuke> timh____, from your previos install? or current?
[21:31] <aeon-ltd> Makuseru: yeah or anything immediatly prior to the problem
[21:31] <kalle> it says no such file or dir on that line, i guess i dont have phpmyadmin installed, apt-get install is installing it now
[21:31] <mininessie> calk, rolling release everything up to date when new version of an app comes out ubuntu automatically installs it every time you update your system
[21:31] <kisuke> UndiFineD,  it jsut hangs when installing dovecot?
[21:31] <calk> mininessie: apt-get update or apt-get upgrade
[21:31] <jrenner> LinuxGuy2009: good idea :) talk to ya later! (got a LAN party tonight need to get this thing working :P )
[21:32] <UndiFineD> kisuke, no just after installing the postfix-dovecot package
[21:32] <frameRelay> calk update then upgrade
[21:32] <hiexpo> yes timh____  your pen and paper and sharp mind
[21:32] <hiexpo> !backup
[21:32] <_len> hello, how can I rotate a image on gimp without losing quality on gimp?
[21:32] <Makuseru> aeon-ltd: reinstalling alsa removes/adds quite a bit. Also, if i try to run alsamixer it says "no such file or directory" and if i try and do "apt-get install alsamixer" it says "couldnt find package alsamixer"
[21:32] <kisuke> timh____, there is probably something in /var/log/
[21:32] <itsux2bu> kalle, i think i see whats wrong
[21:33] <calk> _len: try Gwenview
[21:33] <mininessie> maku, its acutally gnome-alsamixer
[21:33] <jaws> #ubuntu
[21:33] <marius`> hello , how can i install a USB modem in my notebook  ? ubuntu sees the USB modem as a cd drive
[21:33] <_len> calk: I just would like to rotate a layer... not the hole image
[21:33] <UndiFineD> kisuke, small reading mistake dovecot-postfix package
[21:33] <mininessie> Makuseru, , its acutally gnome-alsamixer
[21:33] <timewriter> marius` , is that a 3G modem ?
[21:33] <hiexpo> marienz, what kinda modem is it ?
[21:34] <_len> calk: but when I do that, it lose quality
[21:34] <calk> _len: try some graphics channel, more focused
[21:34] <marius`> timewriter yes it is
[21:34] <hiexpo> marius`, what kinda modem
[21:34] <itsux2bu> kalle,  put 'Include /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf'   that exact line in the bottom of your  /etc/apache2/apache2.conf    don't include the ' ' quotes
[21:34] <kisuke> UndiFineD, can you install everything eklse and then postfix?
[21:34] <timewriter> ok , you dont need to install it
[21:34] <mininessie> Makuseru, did u tried that
[21:34] <marius`> works on 3G/EDGe
[21:34] <marius`> AMOI U2000
[21:34] <timewriter> are you using Gnome ?
[21:34] <UndiFineD> kisuke, http://paste.ubuntu.com/485581/
[21:34] <hiexpo> marienz, sorry typo
[21:35] <itsux2bu> kalle, then reboot
[21:35] <marius`> nope
[21:35] <Makuseru> mininessie: I did not know that
[21:35] <timewriter> well , im using a 3G usb modem too
[21:35] <_len> calk: I'm very new to image editing... I dont quite understand what u said =(
[21:35] <UndiFineD> kisuke, postfix is already install long ago and running
[21:35] <timewriter> you dont need to install it , just create a connection
[21:35] <kisuke> UndiFineD, so it works?
[21:35] <mininessie> Makuseru, well did it work
[21:35] <timewriter> and you will be prompted for further infos
[21:35] <marius`> timewriter i allready did that , didn't works :|
[21:35] <UndiFineD> kisuke, no it hangs there in the paste
[21:35] <Makuseru> mininessie: No, thats a different application apparently. (im using kubuntu, where alsamixer has always worked, now it wont)
[21:36] <calk> _len: you are now in #ubuntu , maybe try #webdesign or #html or #gimp , the IRC channel users of those channels might be more focused on graphics
[21:36] <hiexpo> TimeRider, on some not all
[21:36] <timewriter> sorry then , works for me
[21:36] <timewriter> did you installed ubuntu with the modem plugged in ?
[21:36] <marius`> I see
[21:36] <mininessie> Makuseru, idk then
[21:36] <marius`> nope , i unplugged it
[21:36] <kisuke> UndiFineD, does dmesg say anything?
[21:36] <_len> calk: oh ok XD
[21:36] <timewriter> most of those usb modems have a sd-card with the drivers
[21:36] <timewriter> check for that
[21:36] <hiexpo> whos 3g card is it ?
[21:36] <user_> Hello ?
[21:37] <user_> Anyone can help me.. ?
[21:37] <user_> There is no sound on my Ubuntu 9.10
[21:37] <kisuke> !ask | user_
[21:37] <marius`> It has drivers for Win only
[21:37] <madf0x> !audi | user_
[21:37] <timewriter> damn
[21:37] <madf0x> !audio | user_
[21:37] <rastmust> whu just not a Mac?
[21:38] <mininessie> rastmust, what about a mac
[21:38] <eriksson25> anyone know why booting 10.04 gives me total creen screen. and nothing more?
[21:38] <UndiFineD> kisuke, http://paste.ubuntu.com/485583/  maybe selinux is being annoying
[21:38] <calk> ubuntu runs on mac ?
[21:38] <rastmust> is it bcuz you dont like whitetrash.... hehe
[21:38] <timewriter> yes it does
[21:38] <kisuke> eriksson25, liveCD or installed?
[21:38] <calk> oh my bad it has ADM processors
[21:38] <IdleOne> !ot | rastmust
[21:38] <mininessie> calk, yes i am running ubuntu on a macbook pro
[21:38] <calk> so works
[21:38] <eriksson25> Installed
[21:38] <eriksson25> Newly updated from 9.10
[21:38] <hiexpo> !3g
[21:39] <sinnedam> can somebody tell me how to change the login screen theme? I downloaded a .tar.bz2 file but i dont know what to do with it
[21:39] <calk> well i'm fine with my thinkpads
[21:39] <calk> why would i need a hell expensive device :P
[21:39] <sebsebseb> sinnedam: GDM 2 can't just be themed like the old one
[21:39] <rastmust> Works like hell with VMWare
[21:39] <sebsebseb> sinnedam: your on 10.04 yeah?
[21:39] <SpyderBite> ubuntu-tweak, sinnedam
[21:39] <sinnedam> yes
[21:39] <timewriter> what about Vmware ?
[21:39] <kisuke> UndiFineD, sudo'd?
[21:39] <rockhopper> netinstall | rockhopper
[21:39] <user_> I can't resolve my problem. Because like i can see, there is pulse.. But anyway there is no sound :
[21:39] <rockhopper> !netinstall | rockhopper
[21:39] <mininessie> sudo make me a sammich
[21:40] <sebsebseb> sinnedam: I would suggest an alternative log in screen, such as KDM or slim.  Slim  Debian them by default if you instlal from repo, but  has some rather nice themes on its site, and quite easy for you to make your own theme.
[21:40] <sinnedam> i downloaded the ubuntu tweak, but i only see where you can change the background image..the theme file i have has lots of files in it
[21:40] <UndiFineD> kisuke, sudo bash ;)
[21:40] <IdleOne> mininessie: please stay on topic
[21:40] <rastmust> First i test everything with wm, then i concider it to make a real install
[21:40] <kisuke> mininessie, the old miond controll trick huh?
[21:40] <UndiFineD> kisuke, i stopped postfix and selinux to try again
[21:40] <user_> So. ?! Who will help me..?
[21:40] <kisuke> UndiFineD, let me knwo if that works
[21:41] <user_> There is no sound on my Ubuntu 9.10
[21:41] <calk> !audio | user_
[21:41] <UndiFineD> kisuke, appearantly not
[21:41] <user_> I already tryed all those things.
[21:41] <rastmust> user, or if you rather will be called Usher.. what is your problem?
[21:41] <user_> And still nothing
[21:41] <calk> user_: then upgrade to 10.04
[21:41] <IdleOne> !details | user_
[21:41] <timewriter> i love the ubuntu drivers for x-fi
[21:41] <hiexpo> marius`, cricket
[21:41] <user_> I tryed 10.04.
[21:41] <sinnedam> so its not possible to change my login theme on 10.04?
[21:41] <user_> Same problem :/
[21:41] <timewriter> im running 10.04.1
[21:41] <sebsebseb> sinnedam: not so easily
[21:42] <sebsebseb> sinnedam: easier to use an alternative screen
[21:42] <marius`> hiexpo ?
[21:42] <kalle> ah i had to install the phpmyadmin package now the files exist and i get the login, but still no users have rights to login so i guess i need to change that also someplace
[21:42] <timewriter> user_ , whats your soundcard ?
[21:42] <rastmust> i played cricket all day, must collect some aspirin
[21:42] <aeon-ltd> maku: alsamixer is part of alsa-utils (sorry for late reply
[21:42] <picard1400> hey guys i was thinkin about switchin over to Ubuntu
[21:42] <sinnedam> what do you mean alternative screen? you mean GUI?
[21:42] <hiexpo> marius`, you are having probs with a 3g card ?
[21:42] <UndiFineD> kisuke, http://paste.ubuntu.com/485585/
[21:42] <sebsebseb> picard1400: ok and?
[21:42] <user_> I have problem with audio. I'm running ubuntu version 9.10 (atm) but also having the same issue on Ubuntu 10.04.
[21:42] <nakhlawi> picard1400: good idea ;-)
[21:42] <picard1400> where can i find ASIO4ALL driver its for music
[21:42] <sebsebseb> user_: what is the exact problem?
[21:42] <Phr3ak_> hi
[21:42] <Muelli> !audio | user_
[21:42] <marius`> hiexpo , yes , in fact it is a usb modem , i use it to go on line
[21:43] <sebsebseb> picard1400: not sure what you mean, but you can add MP3 support and such after installing Ubuntu
[21:43] <picard1400> im looking for a music player htat supports ASIO4ALL or ASIO2k becuase my soundcard(external) needs those drivers to work properly
[21:43] <mininessie> user_, download gnome-alsamixer assuming you are running ubuntu and not kubuntu
[21:43] <hiexpo> marius`, what kind of modem is it  ?
[21:43] <sebsebseb> picard1400: some other distros already have support for codecs pre installed
[21:43] <marius`> ISP doens't provides driver for linux
[21:43] <Iananan> hey guys, i'm pretty stuck, I installed uswsusp on 10.04 32 bit as per this tutorial to fix the hibernate issues on laptops http://www.ubuntugeek.com/fix-for-suspend-and-hibernation-problem-for-laptops.html, and I tested the s2disk from terminal, and now i can't resume, nothing will boot
[21:43] <marius`> hiexpo , AMOI U2000
[21:43] <user_> mininessie, Yes. Done that too. It segfaults.
[21:43] <timewriter> i hate 3G modems
[21:43] <Iananan> I get resume: libgcrypt version 1.4.4
[21:43] <mininessie> user_ idk then
[21:44] <marius`> me too
[21:44] <hiexpo> marius`, what service cricket att etc
[21:44] <Iananan> and then it stalls on the splash
[21:44] <timewriter> i have the awesome speed of 15 kb/sec
[21:44] <kisuke> UndiFineD, whats AVC?
[21:44] <Crankygeek> Good afternoon, Is anyone familiar with the setup of eGroupware?
[21:44] <mininessie> no
[21:44] <rastmust> could we all consider a switch to Backtrack4
[21:44] <erUSUL> Iananan: enter grub menu when booting. try adding "noresume" to kernel options
[21:44] <sebsebseb> rastmust: dont' be silly
[21:44] <guntbert> timewriter:  Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[21:44] <UndiFineD> kisuke, no idea
[21:44] <marius`> hiexpo , cricket ? sorry I don`t understand what you mean :|
[21:44] <sebsebseb> rastmust: backtrack 4 isn't even a desktop OS, well not meant to be one
[21:44] <IdleOne> !ot | rastmust
[21:44] <user_> timewriter, card 0: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 1: VT1708B Digital [VT1708B Digital]
[21:44] <kisuke> UndiFineD, man avc?
[21:44] <Iananan> how do i enter the grub menu erUSUL?enter grub menu ubuntu 10.04
[21:44] <timewriter> yes
[21:44] <Iananan> fuck
[21:45] <timewriter> WHATS YOUR OFFER !!
[21:45] <mininessie> broadcom sucks
[21:45] <kisuke> Iananan, shift
[21:45] <hiexpo> marius`, who is the service providerfor it
[21:45] <jenny> <mininessi why?
[21:45] <maco> !language | Iananan
[21:45] <jenny> broadcom is not that bad
[21:45] <rastmust> no, think about it for like 1 or 2 sec. it makes totaly sense
[21:45] <marius`> hiexpo , ORAANGE
[21:45] <Phr3ak_> hi
[21:45] <user_> timewriter, card 0: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 1: VT1708B Digital [VT1708B Digital]
[21:45] <mininessie> jenny, cause if i try a distro i have to hope and pray it works
[21:45] <Iananan> sorry ubottu, tab switching didn't work within the applet, won't happen again
[21:45] <sinnedam> so even though this login theme came from the "get more themes online" link in the display properties i cant use it?
[21:45] <sebsebseb> mininessie: some distros work better than others for wireless
[21:46] <timewriter> user_ , does nvidia offers drivers for linux on their website ?
[21:46] <UndiFineD> kisuke, "avc" messages are audit messages from SELinux http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/whats-avc-506620/
[21:46] <maco> sinnedam: if it was meant for an older version of gdm, then no
[21:46] <guntbert> timewriter: please stay helpful or keep quiet
[21:46] <erUSUL> Iananan: press shift during boot if it does not appear. you have to press "e" to edit an entry iirc. then go to the kernel line. add "noresume" ( no quotes ) to the end of the line ( after splash and quet for example) press "crtl + x" to boot the modified entry
[21:46] <timewriter> they do with graphics card
[21:46] <mininessie> sebsebseb, yes but some don't work with broadcom hardly at all
[21:46] <kisuke> UndiFineD, sudo stop selinux
[21:46] <kisuke> UndiFineD, try that
[21:46] <timewriter> guntbert , i am helpful
[21:46] <hiexpo> marius`, ok whatdisro ubuntu 10.04 ?
[21:46] <rastmust> Now i will download all sorts of crap thats out there
[21:47] <Iananan> erUSUL shift does nothing, it just displayed the resume: libgcrypt version 1.4.4 message again, and stalled on the ubuntu splash
[21:47] <UndiFineD> kisuke, /etc/init.d/selinux stop
[21:47] <marius`> hiexpo , I have installed ubuntu 9.10 notebook
[21:47] <sinnedam> there is a text file in the package that says Use 'gdmsetup' to install.
[21:47] <UndiFineD> kisuke, so I did that, but still active
[21:47] <hiexpo> ok 1 min
[21:47] <maco> Iananan: shift time is before that...
[21:48] <erUSUL> Iananan: you have to press it before during boot ( start pressing it when in bios )
[21:48] <cablop> i'm planning to install ubuntu on 8 GB and 2 GB swap... enhough? or too much?
[21:48] <timewriter> marius` , grab ubuntu 10.04 and boot the live cd , test if sound works
[21:48] <kisuke> UndiFineD, you did sudo right?
[21:48] <timewriter> cablop , how much ram do you have ?
[21:48] <Herald9> In 10.04, is it possible to change the terminal's text from the user@computername:~S to something shorter (such as only using the $ or #)?
[21:48] <maco> cablop: 8GB RAM and 2GB swap? you wont be able to hibernate
 i have 500gb 100gb swap
[21:48] <maco> Herald9: yep
[21:48] <cablop> lol
[21:48] <Iananan> erUSUL, I was doing, i'll give it another go, do i hold or tap?
[21:48] <cablop> i mean 8 GB disk
[21:48] <hiexpo> marius`, ok what language you speak ?
[21:49] <erUSUL> Iananan: tap
[21:49] <timewriter> i make the swap partition double as the amount of ram
[21:49] <maco> Herald9: just edit ~/.bashrc and change the PS1= line to just say '\$'
[21:49] <marius`> hiexpo , natively romanian
[21:49] <hiexpo> marius`, check this http://forum.ubuntu.ro/viewtopic.php?pid=59226
[21:49] <cablop> and it's just for rescue the system... i'll set 3 GB the main swap
[21:49] <marius`> ok hiexpo
[21:49] <Iananan> erUSUL: it says "GRUB loading" and then just carries on trying to resume
[21:49] <erUSUL> Herald9: there a re may tutorilas on setting up PS1 for bash
[21:49] <cablop> or even no swap at all
[21:50] <erUSUL> Iananan: maybe it is still grub1 ? try with "Esc"
[21:50] <Crankygeek> I have installed eGroupware on Ubuntu 10.4 LTS, I am using Postgres for the database and Apache2. I have gone through the complete setup and everything is passing the install checks.....when I try to pull up the website @ http://server/egroupware , I am getting "Fatal Error: It appears that you have not created the database tables for eGroupWare.  Click here to run setup."  Has anyone seen this before, I have searched everywhere wit
[21:50] <Crankygeek> h no help thus far.
[21:50] <Herald9> maco and erUSUL, thank you. I didn't know what that part was called, so searching for info on it was less than successful.
[21:50] <Iananan> would that happen on a fresh install?
[21:51] <Crankygeek> Yes, fresh install
[21:51] <Iananan> and no, not even a grub loading message this time
[21:51] <cablop> sigh... i hate the graphic installer has no GMt option for time
[21:51] <Iananan> is there anything I can edit in a live session in gedit or something?
[21:51] <Makuseru> Hi, im having some sound problems. I restarted and now kubuntu has forgotten about all my sound devices apparently. In multimedia they are all grayed out except for Jack and i have no sound. Also, "cat /proc/asound/cards" says "no sound cards" how can i fix this?
[21:51] <user_> timewriter, No :/
[21:52] <maco> Iananan: er... i dont think grub2 says "GRUB loading..."  just grub1 does. try Escape
[21:52] <Iananan> maco, escape did nothing
[21:52] <erUSUL> Iananan: you could edit grub.cfg/manu.lst from a livecd
[21:52] <user_> timewriter, And like i saw, There is Bug #298465 in linux (Ubuntu): “No digital out with VIA VT1708b”
[21:52] <Iananan> erusul, awesome, I can boot into my liveUSB fine
[21:52] <maco> Iananan: ok well yes from a live cd you can edit /boot/default/grub on the hard disk
[21:52] <cablop> if i have 2 GB ram and 2 GB swap... can i still hibernate?
[21:53] <kyan> Hello! sudo apt-get upgrade is giving me no updates, though there should be lots.
[21:53] <maco> Iananan: change GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0  to some other number
[21:53] <kyan> What should I do about that?
[21:53] <sinnedam> ok next question - im dual booting btw. 10.04 and win 7, but i have 4 boot options for ubuntu..2 are copies...why?
[21:53] <timewriter> user_ , im sorry for that
[21:53] <guntbert> cablop: normally your swap will be used only for hibernating - so yes
[21:53] <maco> Iananan: and chroot into the drive and run "sudo update-grub" to make it regenerate the /boot/grub/grub.cfg  (just editing grub.cfg, itll be overwritten next kernel update)
[21:53] <madf0x> sinnedam that sounds a bit odd, though I know windows 7 uses a second partition as part of it's book process
[21:53] <erUSUL> maco: (s)he would have to chroot to run update-grub or edit grub.cfg directly
[21:53] <sebsebseb> sinnedam: look carefuly
[21:53] <user_> timewriter,  So, you think that, there is no way that i can fix my audio drivers?
[21:53] <timewriter> sinnedam , did you updated kernel ?
[21:54] <xangua> sinnedam: they are old kernels
[21:54] <sebsebseb> sinnedam: maybe you simpally have more than one kernel installed
[21:54] <erUSUL> maco: nvm
[21:54] <sebsebseb> sinnedam: and that also means two recovery mode options by the way
[21:54] <sinnedam> i just ran it from the disk and yes it says ubuntu, then recovery, then ubuntu again, then recovery again
[21:54] <cablop> how reliable is LVM? i plan to create a small recovery system... can i place it inside an LVM? or better to use a standard partition?
[21:54] <Iananan> maco: is this the right stuff to do? http://www.debianhelp.org/node/11558
[21:54] <timewriter> user_ , maybe they will release a working driver
[21:55] <Iananan> maybe not debian stuff
[21:55] <maco> Iananan: nah thats way more involved
[21:55] <user_> timewriter, There is no any other solution, for now?
[21:55] <maco> Iananan: thats actually installing grub
[21:55] <Iananan> oh ok
[21:55] <user_> timewriter, Because like i saw, there will be no resoultion for this audio driver. :| Huh ?
[21:55] <sinnedam> is there any way to clean that up like in windows boot.ini?
[21:55] <timewriter> user_ , you can do some research on google , i dont know any solution for your problem
[21:55] <erUSUL> cablop: why would you want lvm in that case for ?
[21:55] <maco> Iananan: you just need like "sudo chroot /media/disk" (or whatever you mount the drive as) then "update-grub" after you edit the file
[21:55] <user_> timewriter, Okay, timewriter. Thanks in advance! ^^
[21:56] <Iananan> ok
[21:56] <cablop> erUSUL: to be able to grow or remove the swap in the future if needed
[21:56] <kalle> howto find out my Database tables Prefix name: ?
[21:56] <timewriter> no problem , user_
[21:57] <UndiFineD> kisuke, made sure postfix, dovecot and selinux are stopped redid the dpkg --configure dovecot-postfix and it complained about not able to restart dovecot, beacause it was stopped this is true, then started dovceot and it hangs, so now I have found my issue
[21:57] <UndiFineD> kisuke, dovecot wont start :p
[21:57] <kyan> Should have I asked that somewhere else?
[21:58] <nakhlawi> kyan: asked what?
[21:58] <erUSUL> cablop: now... what does  the swap partition have to do whith the partition you will install this system in ? to grow swap just swapon a new file/partition no need to go fancy with lvm imho
[21:58] <kyan> udo apt-get upgrade is giving me no updates, though there should be lots. What should I do about that?
[21:58] <cablop> you're right erUSUL ... pretty right
[21:58] <madf0x> kyan sudo apt-get update first?
[21:58] <hiexpo> kyan, sudo
[21:58] <kyan> Yup.
[21:58] <maco> kyan: try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:59] <Iananan> maco: what bit of what file am I editing first?
[21:59] <maco> kyan: contrary to the name, it just does a more complete upgrade...adding new things if needed and removing old ones if needed...like say if a package changes name
[21:59] <bsdpunk_> Can someone help me upgrade to KDE 4.5 from 3.5?
[21:59] <maco> Iananan: the GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT line. give it a higher number than 0
[21:59] <kyan> http://pastebin.com/4p0sXS8w
[21:59] <maco> bsdpunk_: you're going to need to upgrade to a recent version of kubuntu
[22:00] <bsdpunk_> maco: I'm running backtrack4, but uh, they told me I may as well ask here
[22:00] <maco> bsdpunk_: you're still on 8.04?
[22:00] <hiexpo> he just asked in bt also
[22:00] <bsdpunk_> yeah i did, because #kde told me to ask in #backtrack-support
[22:00] <bsdpunk_> and uh, yeah
[22:00] <sebsebseb> bsdpunk_: 8.04 has KDE 4 as an option, it will be an older KDE 4 though
[22:00] <maco> bsdpunk_: i see. backtrack is 1) not supported here 2) based on 8.04 which is no longer supported for kubuntu
[22:00] <switz_> I just upgraded to 10.10 Alpha and x won't start
[22:00] <lxLee> can someone tell me how to configure kmouth on ubuntu 10.04?
[22:00] <sebsebseb> switz_: #ubuntu+1
[22:00] <kyan> It's trying to remove 90 packages and update/add none.
[22:00] <kyan> Should I go ahead with that?
[22:00] <xangua> maco 8.04 is still suported
[22:01] <Iananan> maco: in grub.cfg?
[22:01] <maco> xangua: not for kubuntu
[22:01] <sebsebseb> bsdpunk_: you can upgrade 8.04 directly to 10.04.1
[22:01] <maco> xangua: kubuntu 8.04 was not LTS
[22:01] <hiexpo> !kde
[22:01] <bsdpunk_> sebsebseb: i'm on backtrack 4 :/
[22:01] <maco> Iananan: no in /etc/default/grub
[22:01] <sebsebseb> bsdpunk_: your not meant to even be using backtrack 4 as a desktop OS, its for security testing and such
[22:01] <kyan> It looks like it's getting rid of old kernel versions, wine, virtualbox, alsa, acpi-support, and a bunch of other stuff I don't recognise right off.
[22:01] <elias__> hey. allright, for some reason my sound isent working. any help?
[22:01] <madf0x> bsdpunk then go to the #backtrack channel
[22:01] <bint> hi there
[22:02] <bsdpunk_> sebsebseb: it has a persistence mode, and I've been using bt4 as a desktop for about 6 months with no problems other than me wanting to upgrade to kde 4.5
[22:02] <madf0x> bsdpunk_ join #backtrack
[22:02] <maco> bsdpunk_: we dont have kde 4.5 packages for 8.04 because 8.04 is no longer supported for kubuntu.  only 10.04 and 10.10 have 4.5 packages. you are welcome to try to rebuild all the Qt and KDElibs and KDE SC packages if you like
[22:02] <erUSUL> bsdpunk_: anyway --> /join #backtrack-linux if you please. thnaks
[22:02] <Iananan> ok, and now chmod stuff
[22:02] <elias__> anybody? any clue why my sound suddently stoped working?
[22:02] <madf0x> bsdpunk_ although no one is really on right now
[22:02] <maco> Iananan: no...no chmod
[22:03] <maco> Iananan: what are you chmoding???
[22:03] <bsdpunk_> alright
[22:03] <Iananan> nothing! i meant chroot!
[22:03] <Iananan> to update the grub
[22:03] <maco> Iananan: oh ok
[22:03] <hiexpo> best to wait till about 10 tonight
[22:03] <Iananan> maco: i'm fairly new at this stuff.
[22:04] <maco> Iananan: thats fine :) you just scared me
[22:04] <kyan> A complete list of the output is http://pastebin.com/8qM391hk should I go ahead with that?
[22:04] <soraxx> HEElp
[22:04] <soraxx> X Error of failed request:  BadLength (poly request too large or internal Xlib length error) on gdm, metacity, ...
[22:05] <soraxx> Ati Radeon hd 4200
[22:05] <Iananan> maco: my hard disk is mounted as a ridiculous string of numbers :(
[22:05] <Lalaland> I have an external hard drive next to my ubuntu computer. What would be the program to use to make it a network drive accessible to xp?
[22:05] <maco> Iananan: use your tab key
[22:06] <aeon-ltd> Lalaland: samba
[22:06] <nakhlawi> Lalaland: you have to use samba
[22:06] <Iananan> maco: MAGIC
[22:06] <Lalaland> Thank you for the advice
[22:06] <vect0rx> when compiling and installing one's own ubuntu kernel, where do you get the new initrd.img ?
[22:07] <erUSUL> !kernel | vect0rx
[22:07] <UndiFineD> kisuke, dovecot seems to hang either when i stop or start it
[22:07] <soraxx> ATI 108 crash
[22:07] <PeterT`> how do I uninstall ubuntu 10.04 and undo the partition?
[22:07] <jrib> PeterT`: do you have another OS?
[22:07] <alpharesearch> I want to find the package that includes hhp2cached from wxwidgets, I guessed this command would help: dpkg-query -S hhp2cached (but there are findings)
[22:07] <vect0rx> ubottu, the version that comes with lacks IEEE 802.15.4 radio support (zigbee/6lowpan/etc)
[22:07] <kyan> To ask again is http://pastebin.com/8qM391hk safe to go ahead?
[22:07] <PeterT`> jrib, XP
[22:08] <erUSUL> PeterT`: just format the ubuntu partion to ntfs so windows can use it
[22:08] <jrenner> PeterT': there's a partitioner on the cd
[22:08] <vect0rx> thanks for the link
[22:08] <PeterT`> erUSUL, how?
[22:08] <erUSUL> PeterT`: you have to do that after restoring windows bootloader
[22:08] <kyan> It looks a little like it would screw my system.
[22:08] <fbianconi> join #ubuntu+1
[22:08] <alpharesearch> Is there a better command to find what package includes what binary?
[22:08] <Iananan> maco, update-grub gives me errors, saying "is /dev mounted?"
[22:08] <Crankygeek> I have just done a fresh install of egroupware 1.6. I have Apache2 installed, and I am using Postgresql for my database. I have completed all the configurations and built the database. All checks are passing....But I am getting an error when I try and load the site..."Fatal Error: It appears that you have not created the database tables for eGroupWare.  Click here to run setup." I have searched high and low for a resolution, any hel
[22:08] <Crankygeek> p would be appreciated.
[22:08] <madf0x> erUSUL PeterT' and trash his install in the process?
[22:09] <PeterT`> erUSUL, is there a guide for this?
[22:09] <erUSUL> PeterT`: to restore windows mbr « sudo aptitude install mbr » and then « sudo install-mbr -i n -p D -t 0 /dev/sda »
[22:09] <maco> alpharesearch: apt-file search _____
[22:09] <cablop> welll, he recovery version is a linuxmint thing... not willing to configure all the things, lol
[22:09] <erUSUL> PeterT`: windows has tools so you can format the partition to ntfs
[22:09] <maco> alpharesearch: dpkg -S only works if you have the package installed
[22:09] <erUSUL> madf0x: welll he wants to get rid of ubuntu
[22:09] <alpharesearch> thanks maco - now I understand
[22:10] <madf0x> erUSUL oh ok then
[22:10] <jrenner> hey guys I'm having an issue I'm not sure if its pulseaudio but that's my suspicion. my headphones go mute at about 34% volume
[22:10] <aquatsr> erUSUL: whoa you can do that?
[22:10] <PeterT`> erUSUL, what is windows mbr?
[22:10] <cablop> PeterT`: you can also boot with a windows disk, go to console and type fixmbr... it's too easy
[22:10] <maco> Iananan: oh boo. the annoying part about chroots...
[22:10] <aquatsr> erUSUL: you can create/install a Windows mbr from linux?
[22:10] <erUSUL> PeterT`: windows bootloader. so windows can boot once we eliminate grub with ubuntu
[22:11] <erUSUL> aquatsr: yes. there is asecond method actually with syslinux
[22:11] <PeterT`> erUSUL, I've done those commands, what now?
[22:11] <aquatsr> erUSUL: interestng. thx. glad I'm idling here today
[22:12] <erUSUL> PeterT`: boot into windows and format the ubuntu partition to ntfs
[22:12] <maco> Iananan: in a different terminal try, sudo mount -B /dev /media/<blahblahyourdiskhere>/dev
[22:12] <kisuke> UndiFineD, have you tried reinstalling?
[22:12] <jrenner> hey guys I'm having an issue I'm not sure if its pulseaudio but that's my suspicion. my headphones go mute at about 34% volume. any ideas?
[22:12] <Crankygeek> Go up to 33%..?
[22:12] <cablop> jrenner: maybe this is not an issue... linux gui has an stupoid approach to volume, they decrease it linearly, but that would be done logaritmically... human hearing is based on decibeles... and 34% is in fact linearly close as no sound
[22:13] <Iananan> maco: ok, I did that, it seemed fine
[22:13] <maco> jrenner: yeah thats a bug. i think its a bug in a sound driver reporting incorrect volume ranges which then results in pulseaudio's flat volume getting things wrong. please file it:  ubuntu-bug -s audio
[22:13] <PeterT`> erUSUL, okay, I understand. but what program do I use to "see" the ubuntu partition?
[22:14] <cablop> jrenner, cause i barely change volume through software i never tried, but i guess some guis have a way to set them to work logaritmically and not linearlly
[22:14] <Iananan> maco: now update-grub ran, but had a lot of errors, mostly invlving fopen failed
[22:14] <jrenner> cablop: yes but at 35% it can pretty loud. and I can lower the volume on banshee to even lower and still here it.
[22:14] <jrenner> *hear
[22:14] <erUSUL> PeterT`: the windows disk manager should be able to see the partition even if it can not see inside it. and it will be able to format it to ntfs
[22:14] <MarkusT> Is someone able to tell me, where to find the Xorg-Bootsplash? I don't need to change it, I just need the file...
[22:14] <cablop> banshee is decreasing sound logaritmically
[22:14] <erUSUL> PeterT: you will loose all data in ubuntu partition btw
[22:14] <PeterT> erUSUL, okay, will try it in a second
[22:14] <cablop> while your volume control is doing it linearly...
[22:15] <UndiFineD> kisuke, i was just about to after reading this : http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1279683.html
[22:15] <PeterT> erUSUL, don't worry, all my porn is safe on my windows partition
[22:15] <PeterT> :P
[22:15] <aquatsr> PeterT: you can run diskmgmt.msc in "Run" or "Search"
[22:15] <maco> Iananan: such as? there might be more that needs to be bind mounted... like /proc
[22:15] <PeterT> aquatsr, thx, brb!
[22:15] <cablop> i'm not 100% is that your issue, but i saw it before some times... i'd be another issue, but you can give it a try, try using a different volume control, like alsamixer and see what happens
[22:15] <erUSUL> PeterT: see what aquatsr said. in management console you find the disk manager
[22:15] <Iananan> yep, proc/devices seems to be the problem, so, mount it in the other terminal, same settings?
[22:16] <cablop> jrenner: read my last three lines
[22:16] <jMyles> Is there a web-based iptables configuration solution similar to what one finds on commercial routers like the WRT54GL?  I want friends to be able to easily add port forwarding without having to figure out iptables.
[22:16] <bint> hi there
[22:16] <aquatsr> jMyles: what do you mean web-based?
[22:16] <cablop> jMyles: are you using ubuntu as the router?
[22:17] <bint> i'm having a unbuntu server and i kinda wanna have a GUI
[22:17] <jrib> bint: so install one
[22:17] <cablop> and i guess you want a html front end
[22:17] <bint> i installed the desktop once but thats way too much.. i just want LAP
[22:17] <bint> and a graphical user interface
[22:17] <jrib> bint: LAP?
[22:17] <bint> LAMP
[22:17] <cablop> jrib i guess linux-apache-php
[22:17] <jMyles> aquatsr: I'd love, for example, to be able to modify port forwarding in precisely the same way that one can with an off-the-shelf router (going to http://router-address:8000)
[22:17] <jMyles> cablop: Yes.
[22:17] <maco> Iananan: yep this time using proc instead of dev, you got it
[22:17] <jrib> bint: pick a graphical user interface you want and install it
[22:17] <aquatsr> jMyles: oh I see what you mean
[22:17] <xKr> hi
[22:17] <UndiFineD> kisuke, LOL apt-get remove dovecot postfix -> will install exim
[22:18] <jrib> !lamp > bint
[22:18] <bint> yes i know what lamp is
[22:18] <bint> thats what i wanna use :)
[22:18] <jrib> bint: the bot tells you more than what it is, he tells you how to install it
[22:18] <kisuke> UndiFineD, lol
[22:18] <cablop> jMyles i never do that on ubuntu... but i got a wrt54gs and installed openwrt on it, that's a firmware... that setups a lonux inside the wrtrouter, and it has a gui
[22:18] <bint> so is there a website with diffrent gui previews or should i just google it?
[22:18] <quietFrank> hi all if I tried to move a folder of images from one partition to another and it disappeared  can find it or any of the files in it but the disk space is not freed what tools can I use to find it ? (I have tried find and locate)
[22:18] <kisuke> !package exim
[22:18] <Iananan> maco: ok, far fewer errors, only one seems to be cannot find list of partitions, do i have to mount dev/sda1 and stuff now?
[22:19] <jrib> bint: why do you even want a gui?
[22:19] <bint> jrib LAMP is already installed but without any gui
[22:19] <cablop> jMyles: there's an x86 vwersion of openwrt also
[22:19] <quietFrank> seems like the filesystem has lost the reference to it
[22:19] <bint> i'm a noob so i kinda have a better overview with a guy
[22:19] <malikeye> cablop: the netbook edition is very nice
[22:19] <jrib> bint: I don't really see how
[22:19] <kisuke> any one know the factoid for looking up a package?
[22:19] <bint> and i wanna run some stuff that is gui-based like irc-client etc
[22:19] <maco> bint: irc doesnt need a gui
[22:19] <cablop> malikeye: really? i'm installing a netbook now and willing to put it on top of it
[22:20] <malikeye> I"m happy with it so far
[22:20] <maco> Iananan: not sure. erUSUL any idea?
[22:20] <bint> maco? so how do you chat in your shell?
[22:20] <aquatsr> bint: I run irc in irssi, it's a terminal-based client
[22:20] <PeterT> who was I talkign to before?
[22:20] <jrib> bint: irssi and weechat are pretty popular
[22:20] <bint> hmm ok
[22:20] <aquatsr> bint: I'm actually using irssi right now
[22:20] <cablop> PeterT: almost with erUSUL
[22:20] <jMyles> cablop: I mean, I have to take that dramatic a step?  I'm shocked that such robust, easy solutions exist at the router / firmware level and not at the system / OS level.  I don't want to change my entire config around, I just want to give friends a way to configure iptables.  I tried webmin and it's even more confusing.
[22:20] <dougb_freebsd> bint: at some point you cross the line from just being a user to learning system administration, and most sysadmin stuff really requires knowledge of the command line
[22:20] <aquatsr> bint: instead of, say, xchat
[22:20] <PeterT> erUSUL, dude, you broke my windows installation!
[22:21] <malikeye> hmm, never heard of weechat, looks neat
[22:21] <erUSUL> PeterT: ??
[22:21] <PeterT> it is asking for the CD and I dont' have one
[22:21] <crow_> is there a back up program that will save what programs I have downloaded?
[22:21] <PeterT> to "repair" it
[22:21] <PeterT> erUSUL, are you happy?
[22:21] <bint> dougb_freebsd you're right.. but since i'm a noob and i kinda wanna have a gui just to easily access my server
[22:21] <cablop> PeterT: i told you to grab a windows cd, enter the shell and type fixmbr... that was what you needed to do
[22:21] <erUSUL> PeterT: if you do not explain  what the issue is...
[22:21] <dougb_freebsd> we all started somewhere :)
[22:22] <bint> dougb_freebsd thats it :) i mean still there is a lot cmd line based stuff to do.. even with a guy
[22:22] <PeterT> cablop, I don't have a windows cd
[22:22] <bint> so it just kinda would speed up what i really need
[22:22] <cablop> in the other hand PeterT i think erUSUL didn't break your system on purpose, and if you didn't do something extreme, you can still recover it
[22:22] <PeterT> erUSUL, it's asking me to insert a windows cd because it's missing a file
[22:22] <PeterT> let me go look
[22:22] <maco> bint: with irssi
[22:23] <bint> !GUI > bint
[22:23] <PeterT> \windows\system32\winload.exe
[22:23] <PeterT> is the file it's missing
[22:23] <erUSUL> PeterT: you can use a windows instalation cd to recover mbr too. boot into recovery console and run « fixmbr» maybe you trust windows tools more
[22:23] <cablop> PeterT i guess you changed your partition table and then the bootloader is not able to find the windows were it will be supposed to be
[22:23] <Makuseru> Hi, all my soundcards are uninstalled for some reason, and i cant seem to get them back. I've tried reinstalling alsa, but that didnt work, and ive tried compiling it myself, but it failed. How can i fix this?
[22:23] <aquatsr> PeterT: It's asking you for a recovery CD
[22:24] <PeterT> I don't have a windows recovery CD!!!!!!
[22:24] <PeterT> why would I have one? they don't give you windows recovery CDs when you buy laptops
[22:24] <cablop> PeterT:  You just need a NORMAL windows cd
[22:24] <aquatsr> PeterT: you can easily download one
[22:24] <PeterT> where?
[22:24] <cablop> any windows xp if you're using xp, any winvista if you're using vista and so on
[22:24] <aquatsr> aquatsr: and you can make one assuming you have a Windows install - I know that doesn't help you atm but just saying
[22:25] <bint> hmm but if i go for apt-get install kubuntu-desktop won't i have games'n shit installed?
[22:25] <aquatsr> PeterT: try google
[22:25] <aquatsr> oops
[22:25] <jrib> bint: you'll have everything that's in a kubuntu install...
[22:25] <mininessie> hey is there broadcom sta version for kernel 2.6.35
[22:25] <aquatsr> yeah anyway google should have some helpful results
[22:25] <PeterT> what am I searching for, a Windows Vista recovery CD or a windows vista full install CD?
[22:25] <erUSUL> PeterT: a windows install cd
[22:25] <aquatsr> erUSUL: he can use a recovery disk as well
[22:25] <PeterT> do you guys have an legal soluations?
[22:25] <cablop> PeterT: there's no thing as a standard recovery windows Cd, a install would be ok
[22:26] <aquatsr> cablop: yes there is.
[22:26] <mininessie> hey is there broadcom sta version for kernel 2.6.35
[22:26] <cablop> PeterT you have a windows shipped with your laptop, you can get a CD installer for it, as long as it's the same version of the windows your laptop came with
[22:26] <PeterT> like so, aquatsr: http://neosmart.net/blog/2008/windows-vista-recovery-disc-download/ ?
[22:26] <aquatsr> anyway an insttall one will work as well
[22:26] <aquatsr> oh PeterT is there a recovery partiton on your laptop?
[22:26] <PeterT> aquatsr, yes
[22:27] <aquatsr> PeterT: try booting into that
[22:27] <PeterT> ok, one sec
[22:27] <cablop> aquatsr: the problem is he has no mbr, so no way to reach the recovery partition if there's there
[22:27] <PeterT> oh no, cablop?
[22:27] <aquatsr> cablop: ah damn
[22:27] <bint> can't i just go for a gui witout anything more than i have on my server.. i dont want games i dont want background images etc
[22:27] <aquatsr> PeterT: yeah u need a CD sorry
[22:27] <aquatsr> PeterT: cablop is right
[22:27] <PeterT> erUSUL, I suggest you never give advice again
[22:27] <cablop> there's a floppy think that find any bootable thing on your system... let me remember the name
[22:27] <PeterT> so, is http://neosmart.net/blog/2008/windows-vista-recovery-disc-download/ okay?
[22:28] <dougb_freebsd> bint: you can always uninstall stuff you don't want after you install the UI
[22:28] <cablop> i foergot the name :S
[22:28] <jenny> guys do you think intel acl1200 and ati hdmi also optirac dvd rw will work in ubuntu 20.04 out of the box?
[22:28] <jrib> bint: install something like fluxbox...
[22:28] <bint> dougb_freebsd sure.. but it kinda doesn't make any sense for me to install a shitload of apps just to remove 90% of em again
[22:28] <dougb_freebsd> jenny: probably, and then can you loan us your time machine when you're done? :)
[22:28] <aquatsr> PeterT: yeah that should work
[22:28] <erUSUL> PeterT: i would ponder your sugestion. thanks
[22:28] <aeon-ltd> jenny: anything thats i686 or 64bit will run ubuntu, whether everything works from stock is a different matter
[22:29] <mininessie> is there broadcom sta version for kernel 2.6.35
[22:29] <PeterT> aquatsr, it's not specifically for home premium, which is what I have, is that ok?
[22:29] <cablop> PeterT: try isohunt site instead, people leave ratings and comments on things so you can avoid getting a 'virused' ahem 'custom' windows cd
 where from did you get 2.6.35?
[22:29] <mininessie> jenny, upgrading to 10.10
[22:29] <mininessie> ubuntu
[22:29] <jrib> !10.10 | mininessie
[22:29] <cablop> and as i told you, as long as you're downloading the same version your laptop has you are not doing anything ilegal, you are just grabing an installer backup from someone else with it
 so u want to kill your pc?
[22:30] <lxLee> is there any program that speaks the text on your computer?
[22:30] <mininessie> jenny, not really
[22:30] <jenny> 10.10 is alpha and it wont work
[22:30] <dougb_freebsd> bint: you have a habit of asking for advice, then arguing about the advice you get ....  you want "easy," but you want it on your terms, even though you seem unwilling or unable to figure out the answers for yourself. You might want to consider whether or not this is a good long-term strategy for you. :)
[22:30] <jrib> !away > kisuke_afk
[22:30] <PeterT> cablop, I'm burning that recovery disk now and I will try it
[22:31] <Gnea> jenny: that's why people install it - to make it work
[22:31] <cablop> also PeterT don't get mad at erUSUL afaik he was trying to help you and you must know there are some risks while trying to fix something as delicate as a computer
[22:31] <aquatsr> or as broken as MS
[22:31] <shcherbak> why byobu do not open second session?
[22:31] <cablop> before you do something, fixmbr will try to fix the problem, but it is not a perfect solution, you can still be losing your system
[22:31] <eriksson25> Anyone could help me? Cant get this to work so want to do a new install without loosing my setings and installed programs like proftpd glftpd and everything els. Is it possible
[22:32] <Iananan> maco: it seems to be ok, this grub2 tutorial https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2#Recover Grub 2 via LiveCD says to ignore the cannot find list of partitions
[22:32] <cablop> and also considering you are dealing with the worst windows of this decade....
[22:32] <maco> Iananan: okie doo then
[22:32] <shcherbak> why byobu do not open second session?
[22:32] <PeterT> cablop, I can't get into fixmbr because I can't load windows
[22:32] <cablop> eriksson25: it depends on your issue
[22:32] <kyan> Asking again: should I do this? http://pastebin.com/8qM391hk
 i still remeber ubuntu 1985.04 and the second alpha release it didnt work i couldnt make it work i left it and waited for 2010.04 now it is here and im happy dont want anythign anymore now i will upgrade when 2020.04 will come out
[22:33] <Iananan> maco and erUSUL: thanks for all your help, lets see if it works.
[22:33] <cablop> PeterT... the fixmbr that cames in the windows installer cd...
[22:33] <PeterT> ...which I don't have
[22:33] <erUSUL> Iananan: no problem. maco did the work anyway ;P
[22:33] <eriksson25> Wount boot, gives me green screen. Or in recovery erro /bin/sh cant access tty job control turned off
[22:33] <madf0x> kyan o.O I wouldnt
[22:33] <cablop> so the problem is you are trying to fix windows with not the whole tools... this is a risk
[22:34] <kyan> Well I'm trying to update my software but it is just wanting to install what is pretty much everything.
[22:34] <kyan> I mean uninstall
[22:34] <cablop> PeterT: afaik you had ubuntu and windows in the same disk, you wanted to get rid of ubuntu, then replaced the old mbr with a default one... until that point that's not bad... then what else did you do?
[22:34] <Izinucs> When I "echo $DISPLAY" I get no response or output.  How do I fix that?
[22:34] <madf0x> kyan then perhaps you are already updated
[22:34] <kyan> how do you suggest I do that update?
[22:34] <Wingzero> hi
[22:34] <Stealth-> Hey
[22:34] <jrib> Izinucs: provide us with some context... Why do you even want to do that?
[22:35] <madf0x> !hi | Stealth-
[22:35] <maco> kyan: in that case dont upgrade right now. looks like something's broken in the repos. wait a day and try again
[22:35] <Iananan> maco: into the grub editor finally! what was it i was supposed to be doing there?
[22:35] <Wingzero> I have a question, Can I install Ubuntu on a USB disk and boot it from there?
[22:35] <Wingzero> I know we can create  a live USB for it
[22:35] <bint> bint: you have a habit of asking for advice, then arguing about the advice you get ....  you want "easy," but you want it on your terms, even though you seem unwilling or unable to figure out the answers for yourself. You might want to consider whether or not this is a good long-term strategy for you. :)
[22:35] <Izinucs> jrib: I've been playing with X over ssh and without that parameter I'm somewhat stuck
[22:35] <jrib> !install > Wingzero
[22:35] <bint> why did u say that?
[22:35] <cablop> Wingzero: losng storu short: yes
[22:35] <maco> Iananan: i dont know. i just know you wanted to get to the menu
[22:35] <Gnea> jenny: that's all fine and good, but keep the smoke and mirrors to yourself, kthx.
[22:35] <madf0x> Wingzero yep
[22:35] <shcherbak> why byobu do not open second session?
[22:35] <Stealth-> I need some help quickly. I am using whatpulse for ubuntu, and want to know how i run xorg, as supposidly I can alter the settings so my mouse works with whatpulse in there. My question is how do i open xorg and change the settings for my touchpad?
[22:35] <jrib> Izinucs: how are you sshing?
[22:35] <hiexpo> kyan,  the problem is it will remove everything that is not in the repos will lose a lot itlooks like to me
[22:36] <dougb_freebsd> bint: I think the statement is pretty self-explanatory
[22:36] <maco> bint: talking to yourself?
[22:36] <kyan> I think it's on my end because a couple of days ago I tried to update, and it ~110/120 updates wanted but I stupidly killed it and now it is broken.
 what kthx mean ?
[22:36] <Iananan> maco: I was adding noresume to my kernel options
[22:36] <Gnea> okay, thank you.
[22:36] <Izinucs> jrib: ssh -X something@ip .. It's all on the LAN
[22:36] <bint> nah dougb_freebsd told me that
[22:36] <jrib> Izinucs: both ubuntu machines?
[22:36] <cablop> PeterT: ?
[22:36] <PeterT> cablop, nothing after that, just tried to restart into windows vista
[22:36] <maco> shcherbak: oh ok then hit e, arrow down to the really long line, arrow to the end of it, type noresume, and hit ctrl+x
[22:37] <bint> well dougb_freebsd but ain't i right.. i mean there is no sense for me to install a huge desktop enviroment to later remove everything
[22:37] <PeterT> sorry, I was upstairs trying to fix the problem
[22:37] <madf0x> Stealth- sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[22:37] <bint> i think fluxbox is prettymuch the thing i was lookin for
[22:37] <cablop> ok PeterT do you have an ubuntu live cd?
[22:37] <madf0x> Stealth- but good luck figuring out what you need to change
[22:37] <Izinucs> jrib: yes.. destop (ssh server) is Kubuntu 10.04 and laptop client is ubuntu 10.04
[22:37] <jrib> Izinucs: is x11forwarding enabled on the server?
[22:37] <dougb_freebsd> bint: You're free to consider what I wrote, or not.  :)
[22:37] <Izinucs> jrib: yes
[22:37] <Stealth-> Ahh shit madf0x you are right
[22:37] <jrib> Izinucs: you restarted the server after enabling it?
[22:38] <kyan> how can I tell if something's broken in the repos or if it's a problem on my end?
[22:38] <Izinucs> jrib: yes..
[22:38] <lxLee> what is the best text-to-speach program for ubuntu?
[22:38] <IdleOne> !language
[22:38] <madf0x> Stealth- I havnt heard of the software you wanna use, but if it's worth using then their page should have advice on how to config it right
[22:38] <Stealth-> I am reading a kinda guide but its poorly wrote, I have to get GrabEventDevice"= put to false
[22:38] <Iananan> erUSUL: where do I add the noresume to the kernel thing? i hit e, and got to the edit, just sticking it on the end didn't work.
[22:39] <shcherbak> maco: all my tty decided to run same byobu session, I just want to open new (second) session in terminal. what option should be used?
[22:39] <erUSUL> Iananan: just between the splash and quiet options ?
[22:39] <Stealth-> madf0x, there ubuntu/linux support is the worst ever, it had no guides, they are really poor in the linux department in general
[22:39] <hiexpo> !best
[22:39] <PeterT> YES WINDOWS VISTA RECOVERY CD WORKS!!!!!!
[22:39] <maco> shcherbak: why do you need a second session, not just a second window in that session?  youd need to remove the byobu-resuming code at the end of ~/.profile to keep it from auto-reattaching
[22:39] <PeterT> thx cablop!!!!!!!!
[22:39] <jenny> anyone from england over here ?
[22:39] <PeterT> and whoever else helped me!
[22:40] <PeterT> no thanks to erUSUL!
[22:40] <maco> jenny: im sure there are plenty. if youd like to find the UK local community channel, thats #ubuntu-uk
[22:40] <erUSUL> PeterT: you are wellcome
[22:40] <madf0x> Stealth- generally for me a nice google combo of -linux xxsoftwareineedfixxx xxxconfigfileneedingconfigurationxxx- turns up a good list
[22:40] <Stealth-> jenny I am yes.
[22:40] <shcherbak> maco: thx, for remote user one and for me one
[22:40] <jrib> Izinucs: I just tried now (by default forwarding isn't enabled).  All I did was enable it in /etc/ssh/sshd_config, restart the server, and then had DISPLAY set (and forwarding working)
[22:40] <Stealth-> madf0x, thanks for the help, I will look into it more, give me a few mins
[22:41] <hiexpo> PeterT,  hey hey thanks 4 the complimates but please do not insult the people that work 4 free here to help you
[22:41] <cablop> PeterT: lol, don't be that way, erUSUL was ehlping you also
[22:41] <Izinucs> shcherbak: byobu is screen.. use it once and then you can make it have multiple "instances" within that "screen" session..
 cant find people form england on ubuntu-uk just froms scotland ireland etc but no england no matter
[22:41] <maco> jenny: i assure you there are quite a few. i know a bunch of 'em
 is it true that englands national anthem has changed?
[22:41] <Izinucs> jrib: I'll double check it but that was one of the first things I looked at.. brb.
[22:41] <madf0x> !ot | jenny
[22:42] <headclone> I am having trouble connecting to wireless internet.
[22:42] <bint> well another question.. you told me that there are terminal-based irc clients like irssi and stuff.. so how can i open a new terminal in my shell? i startet the server and i'd like to edit a file but i dont know how to open it so i could edit some lines - sorry i'm a noob
[22:43] <kyan> Asking again: how can I tell if something's broken in the repos or if it's a problem on my end
[22:43] <Wingzero> Does ubuntu allow you to have multiple profiles?
[22:43] <Wingzero> I mean hardware profiles
[22:43] <Wingzero> :)
[22:43] <cablop> kyan, switch repos for a little while
[22:43] <jrib> kyan: check bugs.ubuntu.com, investigate yourself, ask here...
[22:43] <headclone> Asking again: I am having trouble connecting to wireless internet. Could anyone help me out?
[22:43] <jrib> !wireless > headclone
[22:43] <cablop> headclone: state your problem more ecactly, hard to know what your issue is
[22:43] <aqua> bint: what are you trying to do?
[22:44] <Izinucs> jrib: If I'm into the desktop via ssh and edit sshd_config or ssh_config then restart the ssh server shouldn't I be bumped off the machine during the restart?
[22:44] <bint> aqua i installed the fluxbox
[22:44] <headclone> Ok, I can connect to ethernet, and my router is working with all the Windows computers in my house.
[22:44] <Stealth-> Eughhh
[22:44] <aqua> bint: oo ok i dunno what that is. maybe someone else can help you
[22:44] <bint> but on the website it says: You need to open up /usr/share/xsessions/fluxbox.desktop in the terminal and edit it.       When you see the following text:       exec=fluxbox
[22:44] <Stealth-> Jennys spamming me with anti-england propaganda
[22:44] <aqua> oh
[22:44] <jrib> Izinucs: apparently not (doesn't here)
[22:45] <aqua> ok so open up Terminal
[22:45] <headclone> I cannot get Ubuntu to recognize the router
[22:45] <aqua> did u do that yet?
[22:45] <jrib> Izinucs: weird
[22:45] <headclone> yes.
[22:45] <bint> but i dont have a desktop so i can't open a terminal
[22:45] <bint> i'm just after startup on the servers command-line
[22:45] <aqua> no terminal is a program
[22:45] <bint> no mouse.. no menu.. no gui nothing
[22:45] <kyan> Ok looed at bugs.ubuntu.com but there are 487 results for repo.
[22:45] <aqua> you're on ubuntu, right?
[22:45] <kyan> I mean looked
[22:45] <bint> ubuntu LAMP server
[22:45] <jrib> Izinucs: what's even more interesting is I can stop the service :)
[22:45] <aqua> oh.. ok holdon
[22:45] <Izinucs> jrib: ok.. I checked ssh_config and sshd_config .. both are set to X11Forwarding Yes or is it yes.. Is one valid and the other not?
[22:45] <dougb_freebsd> bint: are you logged into the physical machine directly, or are you ssh'ing into it?
[22:46] <jrib> Izinucs: maybe it doesn't restart/stop while connections are open
[22:46] <bint> i'm logged in directly (vbox)
[22:46] <kyan> cablop: how can I change the repos I'm using?
[22:46] <aqua> do 'cd /usr/share/xsessions/'
[22:46] <bint> yep thats what i did
[22:46] <bint> there i am
[22:46] <Iananan> erUSUL: OK, it didn't try and resume, but it still breaks at boot, it keeps doing this. I might just reinstall completely, something obviously went wrong, whenever I edit something it does this
[22:46] <bint> i tried sudo edit fluxbox.desktop but that doesn't work
[22:46] <aqua> ok
[22:46] <hiexpo> ATTENTION ALL 1483 UBUNTU USERS > WETHE PEOPLE HERE HELPING YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND > YOU GOT UBUNTU FOR FREE AND WE HELP FOR FREE PLEASE DO NOT INSULT US THIS IS REALLY OUR TIME > HELPING YOU        >        thank you lots of love hiexpo
[22:46] <aqua> no no
[22:46] <aqua> do sudo vi fluxbox.desktop
[22:46] <aqua> vi is an editor
[22:46] <Izinucs> jrib: It did give me a new pid number
[22:46] <aqua> to insert text press a
[22:46] <bint> ahh aright thx
[22:47] <aeon-ltd> hiexpo: dude ease up on the caps
[22:47] <aqua> to stop insertion mode press escape
[22:47] <aqua> to save press :w
[22:47] <aqua> to quit press :q
[22:47] <cablop> kyan: inside synaptic or editing the sources.lst file
[22:47] <madf0x> hiexpo anyone who wants to show appreciation can give me a letter of referrence ;)
[22:48] <aqua> to delete an entire line, go to that line and press escape then dd
[22:48] <vishwajeet> Help!
[22:48] <aqua> bint: if you have any problems let me know
[22:48] <erUSUL> Iananan: how did it break this time ?
[22:48] <aqua> bint: I am an expert on using vi
[22:48] <vishwajeet> Thanks!
[22:48] <kyan> what alternative repos are tehre?
[22:48] <hiexpo> madf0x, true butno right to insult
[22:48] <jrib> kyan: why?  You should stick to official repositories
[22:48] <vishwajeet> I just set up LAMP and trying to load my site for accessing by internet, frustrating. I
[22:49] <the_fool> Hello everyone, quick(ish) question: How and where does ubuntu store wallpaper settings for each wallpaper?
[22:49] <vishwajeet> Any stepwise help
[22:49] <kyan> jrib: I was told that http://pastebin.com/8qM391hk means the repo is broken
[22:49] <cablop> kyan: well.. let me think... you can select your local or the main servers
[22:49] <jrib> the_fool: no idea, but I'm guessing gconf...
[22:49] <jrib> kyan: pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list*
[22:49] <madf0x> hiexpo meh flames > /dev/null and they miss out on help when they need it
[22:49] <kyan> (I've been having that problem for a while.
[22:50] <the_fool> jrib, I've looked around gconf-editor  and I can tell that it saves them I just don't know where - I'm trying to write a quick script to change my wallpaper on login (done that) but I need some way to remember if that pic should be zoomed or what backround color etc etc
[22:50] <Izinucs> vishwajeet: the site should be put in /var/www .. if this machine is behind a router on your lan then you'll be dealing with a couple of things... first your ISP most likly blocks port 80 and you'll also have to port forward connections from outside on port 80 or whatever to your specific machine... which hopefully you've set up with a static IP address
[22:50] <vishwajeet> I have web server set up
[22:50] <perlsyntax> does anyone get a black sceen when they install 10.04.1?
[22:50] <bint> what does :q mean? is it on a normal IBM keyboard the ctrl or alt button or somethign?
[22:51] <jrib> the_fool: did you find the settings in gconf-editor?
[22:51] <maco> bint: it means you type a colon and then a q
[22:51] <tuga3d> hi all, my computer is freezing alot, any software to test harware in ubuntu?
[22:51] <vishwajeet> Yes it is therethanks
[22:51] <hiexpo> yes
[22:51] <the_fool> jrib - yes
[22:51] <timewriter> perlsyntax , i have it at boot
[22:51] <timewriter> but i wait a while untill the xserver starts
[22:51] <vishwajeet> I can see files there. I set up virtual hosts also
[22:51] <timewriter> until*
[22:51] <perlsyntax> is there away around it
[22:51] <dougb_freebsd> bint: no, type a colon, then q at the colon prompt
[22:51] <jrib> the_fool: use gconftool-2 to manipulate it non-interactively
[22:51] <vishwajeet> but I am unable to access them because of firewall
[22:52] <the_fool> jrib, right, but I'd still need some sort of list which has the settings for each picture
[22:52] <perlsyntax> ?
[22:52] <aqua> bint: type : and then a q press enter to quit
[22:52] <jinxx> Somebody got on my computer when I left to find a CD and when I got back I found that they had ran "for f in *; do cd $f; rm *; cd ..; done" on my open terminal.  After this a few unimportant documents seem to have gone missing.  Should I be worried about any important system files missing?  (this was run as non-root)
[22:52] <jrib> the_fool: I'm not sure what your question is
[22:52] <aqua> bint: assuming you're in vi
[22:52] <Wingzero> jinxx if this is done as a non-root user
[22:52] <madf0x> jinxx no, but next time dont leave your terminal open like that
[22:52] <Wingzero> then I don't think so
[22:53] <Wingzero> as madf0x said, lock you screen
[22:53] <Wingzero> :)
[22:53] <madf0x> jinxx you couldve been baggy-pants much worse then that :)
[22:53] <jinxx> I thought I had hit ctrl+l, but I guess not...
[22:53] <kyan> jrib : http://pastebin.com/iwPwfvuZ
[22:53] <jinxx> I was worried because I noticed my /tmp directory had been cleared out
[22:54] <the_fool> jrib, I wrote (stole) a script that will pick a random picture from a folder and set it as the wallpaper, but the computer doesn't remember the other settings this way, for example if I need a picture to be zoomed or centered to look nice the computer can't remember that
[22:54] <jrib> kyan: get rid of all the unofficial stuff
[22:54] <Izinucs> jrib: when you restart ssh it's with "sudo service ssh restart or sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart" .. just did that again then "pidof ssh" and guess what?.... there are 3 pid's of ssh.. so I guess that means I have 3 ssh servers running ..
[22:54] <shcherbak> has anyone managed to use iwconfig to connect to wpa? if yes, how? I am getting SET ENCODE err and with wpa_supplicant getting prase err.
[22:54] <jrib> Izinucs: shouldn't matter but I use "sudo service ssh restart".  The old PIDs may be to maintain your old connection?  Not sure.
[22:55] <tuga3d> is there a channel for hardware testing?
[22:55] <jrib> kyan: you have debian repositories in there... I hope you never ran an update with them?
[22:55] <dougb_freebsd> Izinucs: the only way I can think of off hand to implement what you want would be to generate a file with the commands you want to run for each photo (one per line) then pick a random line from that file and execute it
[22:55] <star314> Hi! I made the mistake to install nautilus-elementary and now I'm not able to downgrade to the standard version of nautilus. All ppa-entries have been removed and apt-get update has also been performed but still I'm getting "nautilus: Depends: nautilus-data (< 1:2.31) but 1:2.31.1-0ubuntu1~ppa91 is to be installed"
[22:55] <scans> hello,i have usb web cam, how i install it
[22:55] <star314> Any ideas?
[22:55] <Izinucs> jrib: which brings the question of how do I log into one of the new ssh server sessions
[22:56] <Izinucs> dougb_freebsd: thanks.. but I think that was meant for someone else
[22:56] <jrib> Izinucs: why not just close all the existing connections and see what happens?
[22:56] <kyan> jrib : here it is.
[22:56] <kyan> http://pastebin.com/WpWCAC0Z
[22:56] <ChogyDan> star314: you could probably remove it with dpkg --remove --force-depends nautilus-data
[22:56] <shcherbak> scans: plug it in and check /dev/video and lsusb @ first
[22:57] <jrib> kyan: run "sudo aptitude update" and then see if you have the same output as before with the command you pastebinned
[22:57] <kyan> Now it doesn't want to remove anything but not want to uprgade anything either even though I'm pretty sure there are ~100 waiting for it
[22:57] <ChogyDan> star314: or maybe --reinstall --force-all or something
[22:57] <dougb_freebsd> Izinucs: sorry, you're right, that was for the_fool
[22:57] <jrib> kyan: did you ever run updates with the debian repositories enabled?
[22:57] <PratikPatel>  /quit
[22:57] <star314> ChogyDan: ok, I'll try
[22:57] <star314> thanks
[22:57] <dougb_freebsd> the_fool: the only way I can think of off hand to implement what you want would be to generate a file with the commands you want to run for each photo (one per line) then pick a random line from that file and execute it
[22:58] <kyan> http://pastebin.com/XaPVSDvM
[22:58] <scans> shcherbak: there is no file with this name
[22:58] <dougb_freebsd> the_fool: the other thing you could do (if there are not that many photos involved) is to spend some time with a photo editor like the gimp to scale them to properly fit your desktop
[22:58] <jrib> !who | kyan
[22:59] <the_fool> dougb_freebsd, hmm aight this may be a bigger project than I had planned in which case I might switch to a language I'm more comfortable with, thanks for the advice :)
[22:59] <kyan> jrib : debian repos? sorry I am not sure . How could I tell?
[22:59] <jrib> kyan: the repos you just removed were for debian, not ubuntu.  Did you ever run an update with them?
[22:59] <Izinucs> jrib: did that.. after logging back in I get new pids but just a blank line to echo $DISPLAY.. frustrating.
[22:59] <jrib> Izinucs: you still have multiple ssh servers?
[23:00] <Izinucs> jrib: 3 pids yes.. every time I exit and log back in the numbers change
[23:00] <kyan> I think so. Those were for trying to use MJ12node with mono.
[23:00] <kyan> If I recall correctly.
[23:00] <jrib> Izinucs: is it a hassle to go on the server and work on this locally?
[23:00] <kyan> Oops I forgot to remove the Google chrome one.
[23:01] <scans> shcherbak: u mean i go to this dir /dev/video?
[23:01] <jrib> kyan: you can leave that
[23:01] <Izinucs> jrib: no.. I can be there in a sec.. I'm on irc there as well but as Scunizi = Izinucs  (forwards/backwards)
[23:01] <sectoralarm> is it easy for newbies to install from source code ?
[23:01] <bint> hmm now i'm trying to start fluxbox but it doesn't work.. i installed the xserver-xorg-core
[23:02] <kyan> Ok. I also (today after the problem started ) added the chromium daily builds.
[23:02] <jrib> Izinucs: ah, well I'd stop ssh there, verify /etc/ssh/sshd_config is in order, start it up again, and "ssh localhost"
[23:02] <madf0x> sectoralarm ./configure make "make install" done
[23:02] <xangua> sectoralarm: what do you want to install¿
[23:02] <jrib> Izinucs: although like I said ssh seems to stay open as long as there are connections, so make sure it stops
[23:02] <vishwajeet> how to access my ubuntu server remotely any ideas? Thanks in advance
[23:02] <Hazel-> how can i edit the ubuntu entries on boot time?
[23:02] <jrib> !ssh > vishwajeet
[23:02] <shcherbak> scans: /dev/video1 or 0 but lsusb will tell u what can u using, it easy to find how to page then
[23:02] <Hazel-> i don't have any change to press the "e" key
[23:02] <vishwajeet> where and how ubottu
[23:03] <sectoralarm> *madf0x* ok but can it be different commandos for different applications ?
[23:03] <Scunizi> jrib: I'm there locally now.. I'll kill the service and restart
[23:03] <jrib> vishwajeet: read the link ubottu gave you in a private message
[23:03] <jrib> Scunizi: check with ps that it dies
[23:03] <shcherbak> scans: try cheese it will play most of cam
[23:03] <Hazel-> can anybody help me?
[23:04] <vishwajeet> i know of ssh and have loaded that as well, can you help it set it up?
[23:04] <mininessie> Hazel-, only you can help yourself
[23:04] <baba> how do I make sure the apache server is running?
[23:04] <ArtistXuser> hello
[23:04] <jrib> vishwajeet: did you read ubottu's link?
[23:04] <Hazel-> mininessie: are you jesus? ;)
[23:04] <sectoralarm> i want to install the latest gnome apps  from source code if it works , is there any repository for that ?
[23:04] <xangua> Hazel-: install startupmanager
[23:04] <jrib> baba: status apache2
[23:04] <Hazel-> xangua: i can't boot the machine
[23:04] <mininessie> Hazel-, no
[23:04] <ChogyDan> sectoralarm: what is your interest?
[23:05] <Hazel-> this is way i need to edit the kernel parameters
[23:05] <jrib> sectoralarm: what you just said is self-contradictory
[23:05] <ArtistXuser> i have downloaded ArtistX but the md5 sum in the file they provided does not match the iso but the md5 on the website matches
[23:05] <xangua> Hazel-: what's wrong with it¿
[23:05] <Scunizi> jrib: strange.. as I'm killing it it restarts itself
[23:05] <Hazel-> xangua: the latest ubuntu is not boot on my machine
[23:05] <Hazel-> just installed
[23:05] <baba> jrib, that didn't work
[23:05] <jrib> Scunizi: how are you killing it?
[23:05] <ChogyDan> sectoralarm: I think there are ppas for individual apps, but in general Ubuntu already pretty closely follows Gnome development
[23:05] <baba> unknown job: apache2
[23:05] <xangua> sectoralarm: what exactly do you want to comile¿
[23:05] <Scunizi> jrib: sudo kill -9 <pid>
[23:05] <baba> jrib, i thought i downloaded it from the repository
[23:06] <Hazel-> and this is very anyoning
[23:06] <jrib> Scunizi: and « sudo service ssh stop » ?
[23:06] <baba> I aptitude got it
[23:06] <xangua> Hazel-: did it work in the live cd¿
[23:06] <Scunizi> jrib: that stops it for sure..
[23:06] <cablop> malikeye: is the current netbook edition as i said, that you can enable disabled on need?
[23:06] <Hazel-> xangua: i didn't try it
[23:06] <sectoralarm> xangua : iam not thinking in terms of compiling , i just want the latest apps for gnome and always stay latest and as much as i learn its best to install from source
[23:06] <xangua> Hazel-: how did you install it then¿
[23:07] <jrib> baba: use « ps -ef | grep apache » I suppose
[23:07] <cablop> malikeye: is the current netbook edition as i said, that you can enable disabled on need?
[23:07] <Hazel-> xangua: using the alternate installation cd
[23:07] <xangua> sectoralarm: is best to install from repository
[23:07] <ArtistXuser> i have downloaded ArtistX but the md5 sum in the file they provided does not match the iso but the md5 on the website matches
[23:07] <Scunizi> jrib: looks like I now have a result for the display command.. :)
[23:07] <xangua> Hazel-: try first with the live cd to make sure it runs fine
[23:07] <Hazel-> i don't see the point
[23:07] <Scunizi> jrib: that is after stopping and then starting the service locally
[23:08] <Hazel-> xangua: what is the point to see if the live cd is working?
[23:08] <Hazel-> it's a fresh installation
[23:08] <Scunizi> jrib: now back to the laptop and test
[23:08] <sectoralarm> xangua : ok but whats disturbs med is that its seperate repository for most applications and thats not every applications offer official repositorys either :(
[23:08] <jrib> ArtistXuser: try their forums/support services, it's not really an ubuntu question
[23:08] <xangua> Hazel-: well the pint is....to make sure it works...... Hazel-
[23:08] <xangua> point*
[23:09] <Hazel-> what for?
[23:09] <baba> jrib, it says "baba    3091 3073 0 13:21 pts/1   00:00:00 grep --color=auto apache"
[23:09] <jrib> baba: then you don't have apache running
[23:09] <ArtistXuser> its ubuntu based distro.. and their forum requires one to be a memeber
[23:09] <moon`> hey compiz isn't a wm, it's just the program that allows you to customize special effects in your wm yeah?
[23:09] <baba> jrib, how can I get it running?
[23:09] <jrib> baba: what is the result of « apt-cache policy apache2 »?
[23:09] <moon`> If that's the case where do I go to customize the settings of it in ubuntu?  I don't see it anywhere under the system or places drop downs?
[23:09] <xangua> ArtistXuser: this channel is only for ubuntu support
[23:09] <baba> installed none
[23:10] <Izinucs> jrib: ok.. weird.. logging in remotely and doing the DISPLAY command.. nothing .. blank line :(
[23:10] <baba> sudo apt get apache2 ?
[23:10] <baba> i thought i did something like that before with aptitude
[23:10] <jrib> Izinucs: hmm.  I didn't try to login remotely, hold on
[23:10] <kisuke> how would i share a hard drive on my desktop on the network?
[23:10] <jrib> !apt > baba
[23:11] <sectoralarm> can someone recommend some repository for latest gnome apps , want latest , is there any ubuntu official ?
[23:11] <baba> jrib, how do I get apache2?
[23:11] <jrib> sectoralarm: no, why do you want it?
[23:11] <kisuke> sectoralarm, make sure all of your sources aer enabled and you may want to look at ppas
[23:11] <jrib> baba: see ubottu's information about using APT
[23:11] <Izinucs> jrib: I've also permitted root logon is that makes a difference.. that is.. the ssh setting for root login.. it just allows me to use sudo remotely instead of locking me out.
[23:12] <mininessie> sectoralarm, you want to run like gnome 2.31 and such
[23:12] <jrib> Izinucs: is that what you are using to test?
[23:12] <cristian> Holaaaa
[23:12] <xangua> sectoralarm: i use this ppa https://launchpad.net/~guido-iodice/+archive/guiodiclucid (use ppa's under your own risk) and also getdeb and playdeb
[23:12] <baba> jrib, i'm in the "Ubuntu Software Center
[23:12] <baba> which "Apache" thing should i get?
[23:13] <sam898889> Hello.  is it possible to run ubuntu off USB using a macbook  does anyone know???? Thanks~?
[23:13] <Izinucs> jrib: not sure I understand the question.. using what? an ssh connection yes..
[23:13] <sectoralarm> thx very much
[23:13] <Hazel-> cristian: you have to speak english here, please
[23:13] <ilovefairuz> !es | cristian
[23:13] <jrib> Izinucs: sorry.  Are you logging in as root?  Can you try with a regular user if so?
[23:13] <jrib> baba: ok, you can use that too.
[23:13] <kisuke> sam898889, i dont see any reason why not, as long as your bios has the ability to boot from USB
[23:13] <baba> jrib, but I don't know which "file" i should download?
[23:13] <jrib> Izinucs: ssh -X foobar   works ok here even remotely
[23:13] <sam898889> kisuke,  do macbooks have bios?
[23:14] <baba> there are many choices when I refine using "apache"
[23:14] <jrib> baba: install the apache2 package
[23:14] <kisuke> sam898889, yes
[23:14] <Izinucs> jrib: no.. logging in as a user.. I don't have root enabled on the machine.. but I do have root enabled for logging in on ssh.. different things.. not your typical root login..
[23:14] <Izinucs> jrib: what do you get when you "echo $DISPLAY" ..
[23:14] <sam898889> kisuke,  COOL so any ideas how to do it?
[23:14] <sectoralarm> btw which command do i use to add https://launchpad.net/~guido-iodice/+archive/guiodiclucid to my ppas ?
[23:14] <jrib> Izinucs: localhost:10  iirc
[23:15] <kisuke> sam898889, nope dont have a mac, try the usual though, F2.del, ETC
[23:15] <Izinucs> jrib: even locally .. what I get is :0.0
[23:15] <jrib> Izinucs: hmm
[23:15] <Scrumps_> Where is fstab?
[23:15] <Scrumps_> I forgot...
[23:15] <xangua> sectoralarm: sudo add-apt-repository "ppa's name"
[23:15] <mininessie> sectoralarm, if you want the latest gnome stuff then install arch
[23:15] <ilovefairuz> Scrumps_: /etc
[23:15] <Scrumps_> Thanks ilovefairuz
[23:15] <jrib> Izinucs: I think the only nonstandard option I have is "UseDNS no"
[23:16] <Fendaril> Does anyone know how to measure terminal size?
[23:16] <sectoralarm> ok iam a newbie so ubuntu fits fine , just like to stay up2date , hope that repository will do the trick :)
[23:16] <ilovefairuz> Scrumps_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard
[23:16] <HiEveryone> Hi everyone
[23:16] <HiEveryone> I think Ubuntu is cool
[23:17] <jrib> Izinucs: you didn't forget -X right?
[23:17] <Izinucs> jrib: here's my sshd_config for comparison .. http://pastebin.com/QyKUdew0
[23:17] <klappi> Fendaril: try echo $CLOUMNS
[23:17] <Izinucs> jrib: nope
[23:17] <klappi> Fendaril: sorry $COLUMNS
[23:17] <jrib> Izinucs: you makae any changes to ssh_config in /etc/ or in ~ ?
[23:17] <dougb_freebsd> sectoralarm: if you're new you're better off sticking with what comes in ubuntu, which is generally pretty well tested, including compatibility with the other things installed. Adding new stuff that hasn't been tested, patched, etc. may void your warranty :)
[23:18] <Fendaril> klappi:That helped but I was looking for specific dimensions, as in 1x20
[23:18] <Fendaril> or 10x40
[23:18] <Fendaril> Something to that effect
[23:18] <Izinucs> jrib: humm.. I'll look
[23:18] <ilovefairuz> !hi | HiEveryone
[23:19] <baba> jrib, thank you very much. i'm not sure why the instructions i followed form the web didn't work
[23:19] <jrib> !lamp > baba
[23:19] <malikeye|nb> yeah, so the netbook edition is pretty sweet :)
[23:19] <jrib> Izinucs: http://pastebin.com/Gj4pVmUQ mine (though I changed forwarding back to "no")
[23:19] <baba> i thought it would have been downloaded because it did download when I used aptitude
[23:19] <kylenas> Hello, is there an easy way to make sure I can vnc into my ubuntu box even after a reboot?
[23:20] <sectoralarm> dougb_freebsd: ah i see, thats more than i know :) , i am very curious about gnome 3 and the look of ubuntu 11.04 :)
[23:20] <baba> jrib, good idea. I'll use that then
[23:20] <baba> i used xampp on windows
[23:20] <jrib> baba: eww
[23:20] <baba> jrib, ew to windows or xampp?
[23:20] <jrib> baba: both :)
[23:20] <baba> what's wrong with xampp?
[23:21] <HiEveryone> What's wrong with Windows?
[23:21] <jrib> baba: well on linux it makes no sense to use
[23:21] <sectoralarm> which is the best winamp fork ?
[23:21] <aeon-ltd> baba: mpd ftw
[23:21] <jrib> HiEveryone: doesn't cook breakfast for me
[23:21] <HiEveryone> Neither does Ubuntu
[23:21] <olskolirc> how would I reconfigure X on nvidia - dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg never works - I want to be prepared for the next time I lose X
[23:22] <baba> jrib, may I pm you?
[23:22] <eriksson25> Anyone know how I shuld recover my lvm now that I reinstalled ubuntu?
[23:22] <jrib> baba: better to stay in #ubuntu so everyone can help
[23:22] <baba> have you ever used Dancer-ircd?
[23:22] <baba> or any other one?
[23:22] <Elad> can someone please point me in the right direction? I am trying to get rid of key authentication on my ubuntu server but am not quite sure what to look up in google to change it over to a username/password based authentication
[23:22] <jrib> baba: I have not, but if you just ask the question about it, maybe someone can help
[23:23] <jrib> Elad: you know you can use both?
[23:23] <baba> jrib, well, I'm just not sure of how to "run" the software
[23:23] <Elad> I did not know this
[23:23] <zcat[1]> Elad:  /etc/ssh/sshd_conf
[23:23] <baba> jrib, just as I though I had downloaded apache
[23:23] <zcat[1]> ...ig
[23:24] <roky> Hello everyone. I need some help trying to get my sound working on a sony vpcea24fm laptop.
[23:24] <Izinucs> jrib: looks pretty much the same with the exception of my PermitRootLogin Yes, and your UseDNS no and AllowUsers jrib..
[23:24] <sectoralarm> is audiacious bether to handle large music collections than rhyhmbox? , or is there any other great player for that ?
[23:24] <dougb_freebsd> Elad: key auth is generally considered more secure, what is your purpose in getting rid of it?
[23:24] <ilovefairuz> kylenas: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC
[23:24] <Elad> zcat[1], what value/config am I looking for?
[23:24] <jrib> Izinucs: weird, not sure why your $DISPLAY gets set differently
[23:24] <zcat[1]> # Change to no to disable tunnelled clear text passwords
[23:24] <zcat[1]> PasswordAuthentication no
[23:24] <jenny> v this cn be little tricky dont u have sound at all?

[23:25] <ilovefairuz> !sound | roky
[23:25] <Izinucs> jrib: ok.. thanks.. google might give some results.. I'll check
[23:25] <zcat[1]> Elad:  although I'd strongly advise you to use key-based authentication..
[23:25] <Elad> even if ssh is running on a different port?
[23:26] <zcat[1]> Elad:  even if..
[23:26] <dad_> my window buttons are gone!!  uuggg    max min and close
[23:26] <jrib> Izinucs: could you actually open up something like "xclock" locally on the server after sshing locally?
[23:26] <Elad> note taken
[23:26] <jenny> ilovefairuz> u wont let me answer even one question could u please give me a chance? are u bot or soemthing youre to fast slow down a bit :)
[23:26] <zcat[1]> Elad:  It's your server. prepare to be pwnt!
[23:26] <jrib> Elad: I agree, I disable passwords whenever I can
[23:26] <Guest35182> my window buttons are gone in 10.04  uuggg
[23:26] <jenny> ilovefairuz> just kidding
[23:26] <jenny> :)
[23:26] <wasabi_> how do you run Wine with Japanese locale support?
[23:26] <xangua> Guest35182: alt+f2 > metacity --replace > enter
[23:26] <HonkeyMagoo> Anyone know of a good SVN checkout system for Ubuntu?
[23:27] <Elad> zcat[1], thank you for the help
[23:27] <Izinucs> jrib: nope.. Error: Can't open display:
[23:27] <wasabi_> $LANG=ja_JP.UTF8 wine exe doesn't work
[23:27] <c_j> I've about given up geting 10.04 to work on my Dell E6410 - I've seen all the articles for the nVidia chipset - but I have the intel one :(
[23:27] <Crankygeek> I have just done a fresh install of egroupware 1.6. I have Apache2 installed, and I am using Postgresql for my database. I have completed all the configurations and built the database. All checks are passing....But I am getting an error when I try and load the site..."Fatal Error: It appears that you have not created the database tables for eGroupWare.  Click here to run setup." I have searched high and low for a resolution with no
[23:27] <Crankygeek> luck.....I am hoping someone here can help.
[23:27] <erUSUL> HonkeyMagoo: default cli svn client does not work ?
[23:27] <scans> ist ubuntu Protected from hack,or do i need anti virus?
[23:28] <Izinucs> scans: anti virus is not neccessary unless you want to protect your windows friends :)
[23:28] <xangua> wasabi_: no idea, you don't run wine, you install it to run windows apps
[23:28] <xangua> !virus > scans
[23:28] <aeon-ltd> scans: use a firewall
[23:29] <aeon-ltd> scans: for future references, there is no such thing as a unhackable/unpenetrable system
[23:29] <wasabi_> xangua: okay yes i know....
[23:29] <ilovefairuz> jenny: check ubottu's alias list. type: /msg ubottu brain
[23:29] <scans> woha
[23:29] <wasabi_> xangua: i'm trying to run a japanese locale app
[23:29] <scans> so there is no one can hacked me any more
[23:29] <zcat[1]> scans:  ubuntu is by default considerably more secure than a reasonably well secured Windows machine
[23:30] <Izinucs> scans: never say never.. but *very* unlikely
[23:30] <zcat[1]> scans:  but if you want the greatest possible security you should look into openbsd perhaps.. ;)
[23:30] <hou5ton> I have an interesting thing happening that I've never been able to solve.  I use dual monitors ... my laptop screen as the main one and then another monitor. I'm grading online posts for classes I teach. When I grade a particular discussion, I click on it and a window pops up to grade it. But it ALWAYS pops up on the extra monitor to my left, and I can't figure out how to make it pop up on the main laptop monitor where I'm currently worki
[23:30] <hou5ton> ng.
[23:30] <wasabi_> cd /var/lib/locales/supported.d/
[23:30] <aeon-ltd> zcat[1]: not really, the unix architechture is good but not that good, also ubuntu installs ufw by default but fails to configure it, just wondering what the hell with that?
 i typed and thats what i have got <ubottu> maco wants me to tell you: about women
[23:31] <maco> jenny: i told ubottu to tell you about the ubuntu women project
[23:31] <FalseChicken> I have been having an issue recently. I am on 10.04 and I did an update and now when I start the package manager it tells me there is an issue and to run "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[23:31] <c_j> hou5ton - which monitor is your primary?
[23:31] <jenny>  wants you to know: The women and men of the Ubuntu Women project hang out in
[23:31] <scans> ok thanks guys
[23:31] <jenny> :)
[23:31] <FalseChicken> But when I do that I get: dpkg: failed to open package info file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' for reading: No such file or directory
 how did you make bot to tell me soemthing :)
 so u want to go out ?
[23:32] <maco> jenny: sent it a command
[23:32] <jenny> to #ubuntu-caffee ?
[23:32] <jenny> #ubuntu-pub ?
[23:32] <maco> jenny: and no i do not. there are no dating channels within the ubuntu namespace
[23:32] <Fendaril> !offtopic
[23:32] <jenny> :)
[23:32] <maco> jenny: i just figured based on your nick you might be a woman and therefore might be interested
[23:32] <ilovefairuz> jenny: ah it's not supposed to say that.. should give a link to http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi
[23:33] <hou5ton> c_j:  Well ... I guess the laptop one is ... that's where the menu bars are, and I have my display extended to the other monitor to my left.
[23:33] <zcat[1]> we need a factoid for !dating
 it gave me link to  <maco> wants you to know: The women and men of the Ubuntu Women project hang out in #ubuntu-women. Encouraging women to use linux?
[23:33] <c_j> so are you grading on the external or laptop screen?
[23:33] <maco> ilovefairuz: jenny is confused
[23:33] <owen1_> i get 'bluetooth is not running" on 'sudo service bluetooth status'. how to tell if my desktop support bluetooth?
[23:34] <maco> jenny: ilovefairuz and i BOTH told the bot to tell you stuff
[23:34] <jenny> :)
[23:34] <maco> jenny: you're pasting what *i* told it to tell you. ilovefairuz had it tell you something /else/
[23:34] <jenny> do you guys knwo im 65 years old?
[23:34] <jenny> retired
[23:34] <FalseChicken> Anyone know what to do with this? "dpkg: failed to open package info file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' for reading: No such file or directory"
[23:34] <coz_> jenny,  hey  welcome :)
[23:34] <acx0> are there any consequences of changing your home directory's permissions to o-rx so that no other regular user can read the contents?
[23:35] <maco> acx0: nope thats fine
[23:35] <CompuTom> In what programming language was Ubuntu written?
[23:35] <hou5ton> c_j:  but you want to know something interesting about it ... if I set the external monitor to be on my right, instead of left, THEN the popup stays on the laptop screen where I'm working.
[23:35] <acx0> maco: thanks
[23:35] <zcat[1]> CompuTom:  most of them...
[23:35] <cablop> wonders what's the best option to use inside LVM... ext3 or reiserfs...
[23:35] <maco> CompuTom: many
[23:35] <erUSUL> CompuTom: like any unix system. many/most things are in C
[23:35] <aeon-ltd> CompuTom: ubuntu, is just a collection of packages, a custom built kernel and documentation
[23:36] <c_j> hou5ton - sounds like the right monitor is your default
[23:36] <zcat[1]> CompuTom:  laregely C and C++ but also heaps of python, perl, and a handful of other languages.
[23:36] <unique> whats a good torrent client with a web interface for ubuntu
[23:36] <maco> CompuTom: the linux kernel is C, Qt/KDE apps are usually C++ but sometimes python, GTK/GNOME apps are usually C but sometimes python, there's some perl floating around too...oh and some C# in F-Spot...
[23:36] <c_j> hmm.. that's not right either
[23:36]  * cablop wonders what's the best option to use inside LVM... ext3 or reiserfs...
[23:36] <aeon-ltd> CompuTom: it would be better to ask what the core packages are written in
[23:36] <hou5ton> c_j:  even though the menu bars are on the laptop one?
[23:36] <zcat[1]> No C# in my system, first thing I do is remove all the mono ;)
[23:37] <c_j> Yes, you can still have either one as default - menu bars aside
[23:37] <c_j> check and see which one is showing as default under the display settings.
[23:38] <zcat[1]> I don't think there's much written in Cobol though..
[23:38] <dad__> HELP Please...  I did the alt f-2 meticity --replace but now the bottom 25% of my screen is black.. I saw a message "Docky requires something to operate correctly then it dissapeared...
[23:38] <cablop> what could you suggest? to go ext3 or to go reiserfs to create volumes inside a LVM?
[23:38] <moon`> anyone use emerald themes manager?
[23:38] <aeon-ltd> dad__: it needs a compositing manager i think
[23:38] <maco> moon`: really dont recommend it
[23:38] <erUSUL> cablop: ext4; reiserfs is a death end. is going the way of the dodo
[23:39] <erUSUL> !emerald > moon`
[23:39] <moon`> maco any other recommendations aside from just compiz-fusion or is it best just to stick with compiz?
[23:39] <dad__> aeon-ltd  can you help me with it?
[23:39] <scans> shcherbak: u still there?
[23:39] <hou5ton> c_j:  When I go to System/Preferences/Monitors, it doesn't seem to tell me which one is default.
[23:39] <aeon-ltd> dad__: just enable effects in compiz :)
[23:39] <maco> moon`: i used to use emerald, back when it was still being maintained, but nobody's written a line of code for it since 2007 or 2008... bugs (and oh boy does it crash!) dont get fixed
[23:39] <lxLee> is there a text reader for ubuntu?
[23:39] <izatt82> i have a question for you guys, what is the syntax for combining this statement without having to pipe into awk twice like i did. cat /etc/passwd | awk -F: '$4 > 8' | awk -F: '{print $1}'
[23:39] <maco> moon`: compiz and beryl merged into compiz fusion years ago. there is no "just compiz" these days
[23:39] <Noob_Saibot_> hiho
[23:40] <Noob_Saibot_> lxLee: sudo apt-cache text reader
[23:40] <zcat[1]> with resier where he is, don't expect too much ongoing development or support for reiserfs .. but I think some of the ideas behint it are in btrfs now?
[23:40] <Noob_Saibot_> ops
[23:40] <c_j> hou5ton - you'll probably need to edit your xorg.conf file
[23:40] <Noob_Saibot_> apt-cache search text reader
[23:40] <maco> moon`: the alternatives to compiz-fusion for a compositing window manager these days are to turn on compositing in metacity (gnome's window manager) or to use kwin (kde's)
[23:40] <geirha> izatt82: awk -F: '$4 > 8 {print $1}' /etc/passwd
[23:40] <dad__> aeon-ltd  OOOO   you are good my friend.. Thx
[23:40] <cablop> erUSUL: i don'ty want to use ext4... i don't see why it is much better than ext3 and... and i worry about losing data due to its inherent caching feature
[23:40] <izatt82> oh ok so everything is the same just inside single quotes
[23:41] <Noob_Saibot_> Did Reiser really kill Nina?
[23:41] <moon`> maco,  okay thanks maco, another quick question what do you use for an irc client? irssi?
[23:41] <aeon-ltd> dad__: it worked?
[23:41] <Noob_Saibot_> Or they still couldnt prove?
[23:41] <zcat[1]> Noob_Saibot_:  he confessed and showed them where the body was.
[23:41] <owen1_> i get 'bluetooth is not running" on 'sudo service bluetooth status'. how to tell if my desktop support bluetooth?
[23:41] <cablop> Noob_Saibot_: he guided the police to the place where the body was hidden... so.... guesss
[23:41] <c_j> hou5ton - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[23:41] <dad__> aeon-ltd  but of course...  u doubt yourself?
[23:41] <Noob_Saibot_> OMG!
[23:41] <hou5ton> c_j:  I move around a lot ... sometimes have dual monitors, sometimes don't ... sometimes it's a different monitor .... don't really want to be editing that file all the time ....
[23:41] <maco> moon`: i use quassel-client and i have a quassel-core on my server. quassel (the monolithic, not client/core setup) is the default in kubuntu
[23:41] <erUSUL> izatt82: awk -F: '$4 > 8 {print $1}' /etc/passwd
[23:41] <cablop> and to ask that... is really Noob, LOL!!! XD
[23:41] <moon`> k thanks
[23:41] <geirha> izatt82: The topic of #awk has some nice links on learning awk.
[23:42] <Noob_Saibot_> cablop, zcat[1]: so sad ;/ hey, lets start a free reiser campaign hehehehehe
[23:42] <hiexpo> lol
[23:42] <izatt82> geirha: thanks for the help on that i was making that way to hard
[23:42] <eriksson25> Have there been any hardware that was working under 9.10 that has been discontiuned to 10.04
[23:42] <aeon-ltd> dad__: sometimes... i'm not exactly a 'seasoned' users - just almost 2 years of linux experimentation
[23:42] <aeon-ltd> *user
[23:42] <erUSUL> izatt82: sorry missed geirha
[23:42] <cablop> hahahaha Noob_Saibot_ yup... and cause reiserfs has his name on it... well... this is how to kill a project
[23:42] <scans> i have problem with reading and writting arabic font on aMSN  is there any package do i need to download it?
[23:43] <LinuxGuy2009> I know that Synaptic package manager has the feature to create a download script. But Im wondering if any command line tools have this same ability?
[23:43] <zcat[1]> The silly thing was he'd done everything else right, if he'd just kept quiet and let his lawyer do the talking he could have gone played a round of golf with OJ, easy .
[23:43] <aeon-ltd> scans: arabic language pack?
[23:43] <izatt82> geirha: yeah today is my first  time using AWK so its a whole new world to me
[23:43] <dad__> aeon-ltd  can I ask you.. I have the advance graphic thing installed that gives me the iconic looking icons as a taskbar.. dont know what it is called ( i am a dad ya know)  anyway, i also have the taskbar over it.. can I make another cool looking iconic taskbar instead of the usual one??
[23:43] <cablop> create a nice project, tie your name to it, commit a very important crime, but let peiople no way to ptove it, just doubts, but no proof at all, then you became popular all over the world... then confess... certainly that man is going to pass to the history
[23:43] <cablop> end of OT XD
[23:43] <Noob_Saibot_> cablop: Even tough he is a murderer, I dont think he should spend too much time in prison. I mean... come on.. Nina was a junkie, a bad mother, was stealing from his company and cheating on reiser with a travestite serial killer O.o
[23:43] <scans> aeon-ltd: what u mean?
[23:44] <dad__> aeon-ltd   2 yrs!!  more than I got Ill tell ya
[23:44] <bonez2046> what's a great scanner, with gui, to scan and OCR documents?
[23:44] <owen1_> how to find if my hardware has bluetooth support?
[23:44] <arooni-mobile> when i try to vnc to my desktop running 10.04; i cant see screen refresh (graphic effects are turned on and id prefer to leave them that way)?
[23:44] <arooni-mobile> or is there an alterate way to do remote desktop?  other than vnc?
[23:44] <cablop> well... i don't know... Noob_Saibot_ but even a few years are able to kill anything in the software echosystem
[23:44] <Noob_Saibot_> Now Reiser4 is on the same group that is Duke Nukem Forever and Enlightenment 17
[23:44] <aeon-ltd> scans: search in synaptics, or languages in the menu. or it could just be your font doesn't have arabic characters
[23:45] <LinuxGuy2009> bonez2046:  I dont think Linux has much OCR software but there are actually free online websites that you can feed a scanned page and it will OCR it for you.
[23:45] <kisuke> owen1_, are you talking about your computer or a peripheral?
[23:45] <Noob_Saibot_> cablop: Yeah, that is really sad. Someone should fork it.. .
[23:45] <kisuke> !ot | Noob_Saibot_ cablop
[23:45] <scans> i can read and write in other chating but in aMSN show me letter by letter
[23:46] <owen1_> kisuke: my desktop. i just bought apple wireless keyboard. and get "bluetooth is not running" when i type 'sudo service bluetooth status'
[23:46] <zcat[1]> Noob_Saibot_:  btrfs takes a lot of reiser's design I think. so it's kinda forked already
[23:46] <owen1_> kisuke: so i want to make sure my desktop support bluetooth.
[23:46] <cablop> hehe kisuke, sorry for that... to keep an eye on an ubuntu install just makes you loss the focus
[23:46] <zcat[1]> .. and improved on
[23:46] <zcat[1]> .. and less dependent on a single developer.
[23:46] <kroson> hi people
[23:47] <kroson> is there a way to get ati power management with lucid with the opensource driver?
[23:47] <kyan> bonez2046 : http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/138511
[23:49] <fruitwerks> hi all... I have decided to ditch Gentoo after 10 years, but I have one question about mdraid / lvm2 when installing
[23:49] <kisuke> owen1_, try "lspci | grep bluetooth" and "lsusb | grep bluetooth"
[23:49] <kisuke> owen1_, in a terminal
[23:49] <owen1_> kisuke: i get nothing
[23:49] <Some_Person> How can I get ubuntu to recognize a serial mouse?
[23:49] <owen1_> kisuke: oh. wait
[23:49] <kisuke> owen1_, what kind of computer are you using?
[23:50] <owen1_> kisuke: yes. gets nothing. it's HP. desktop.
[23:50] <cablop> i was reading reiserfs can be resized in hot... O.o
[23:51] <owen1_> kisuke: hp pavilion 250n. let me google
[23:51] <hou5ton> c_j:  one other thing ... I just discovered that it doesn't do it if I use Google Chrome.  Only Firefox
[23:51] <kisuke> owen1_, where do you live?
[23:51] <owen1_> kisuke: la
[23:51] <kisuke> owen1_, looks like you will have to get an adapter for bluetoth
[23:51] <owen1_> kisuke: or buy keyboard with a dongle
[23:51] <kisuke> owen1_, calafofnia, USA?
[23:51] <owen1_> kisuke: yeah
[23:52] <fruitwerks> right now I have two 2tb drives, I currently run a daily rsync of the important stuff from one drive to the other, for performance I have swap and tmp on the secondary drive. what issues am I going to run into at install? the only backup I have is the secondary drive. will I be able to use mdadm type setup without copying over my backup first?
[23:52] <dougb_freebsd> Does someone have a handy reference for ext4 vs. ext3 (stability, features, etc.)?  I have found a couple, but they seem like they may be stale
[23:53] <Some_Person> How can I use a serial mouse in ubuntu?
[23:53] <dad__> hhuumm   just installed 10.04   went to open rhythmbox and click radio... nothing there or playing
[23:53] <kisuke> owen1_, not nessacarly, not of those use a protocol that is not blue tooth, so its a single purpose USB port really, if you get a bluetooth adapter, you will have ythe ability to add to your system later, say keyboard now, and a bluetooth headset, etc
[23:53] <kisuke> Some_Person, is should just be plug and play
[23:53] <Some_Person> kisuke: It's not
[23:53] <Noob_Saibot_> sorry to ask, but who is in charge of e17 repositories
[23:54] <Noob_Saibot_> I dont see any updates since may or june
[23:54] <unique> php5-mysql: Depends: php5-common (= 5.3.2-1ubuntu4) but 5.3.2-1ubuntu4.2 is to be installed
[23:54] <unique> what does this mean
[23:54] <unique> im trying to install php5-mysql
[23:54] <cablop> dougb_freebsd: no reference... i just came with three ideas about choosing ext3 over ext4... 1) ext3 does not delay writing, so more reliable in scenarios when what you write is more important than performance, 2) ext3 is older, so it's more stable, 3) oracle is about to launch a newer fs and afaik they plan to make a tool to convert from ext3 or revert to ext3
[23:54] <owen1_> kisuke: true. microsoft arc keyboard comes with wireless usb. it's not bluetooth.
[23:54] <Some_Person> kisuke: Remember, I'm talking about a serial mouse (with a DB-9 connector), not a PS/2 mouse
[23:55] <dougb_freebsd> cablop: thanks, 1) and 2) were what I had gleaned from my research as well  ... regarding 3) are you referring to zfs?
[23:55] <zeleftikam> Ubuntu Server 10.04: SFTP file transfers from my server will  not go faster than about 680k/sec over LAN. if I start more than one transfer at once, they will each stick at 680 until the ethernet capacity is used up, which is about 3-4 simultaneous transfers. how do i make sftp go faster?
[23:55] <kisuke> Some_Person, what does it show up as in dmesg?
[23:56] <kisuke> zeleftikam, it should be in the .conf file of the server you are using
[23:56] <zeleftikam> kisuke» do you know where i might find this file?
[23:57] <kisuke> zeleftikam, /etc/<name of server>/
[23:57] <Some_Person> kisuke: As far as I can tell, it doesn't
[23:57] <ubuntu-usr> hi all
[23:57] <Some_Person> kisuke: IIRC, serial mice cannot report themselves to the system
[23:58] <cablop> any advantage on using xfs instead of ext3?
[23:58] <zeleftikam> kisuke» there are a lot of directories there in /etc/. any idea what the server might be called?
[23:59] <kisuke> Some_Person, unless its a really archaic mouse it should still work, when you plug it in, and then run "dmesg" in a terminal what are the las couple of lines?
[23:59] <jjb123> Hey everyone, I have a quick question. So I just installed server 10.04 on my tower, and now when I go to boot it it just hangs after the part where it asks you if you want to boot from cd, the part where grub is supposed to load. Any ideas? I am really stuck on this and any ideas would be appreciated
[23:59] <ubuntu-usr> maybe it's stupid question and it's not right place to ask but anyone used freebsd? how about hardware copmpatibility? it's really so bad with hardware compatibility
[23:59] <kisuke> zeleftikam, nope, you installed it so...
[23:59] <zeleftikam> jjb123» the correct boot disk might not be selected
[23:59] <Some_Person> kisuke: They show the USB mouse I have plugged in for temporary use
[23:59] <zeleftikam> kisuke» ubuntu server doesn't ship with an sftp server?
[23:59] <kisuke> !freebsd | ubuntu-usr