[01:13] <DarkwingDuck> Hey there everyone... my crazy life is slowly slowing
[02:36] <ryanakca> ScottK: Any news on kolabd?
[02:41] <valorie> ok, added more feedback on the https://wiki.kubuntu.org/MaverickMeerkat/Alpha3/Kubuntu/Feedback page
[02:42] <valorie> going offline to switch hard drives, and install Mav on the other one
[03:26] <ScottK> ryanakca: Not yet.  Need to work on it soon.
[03:27] <ScottK> After Riddel is back and I don't have to play Kubuntu rm anymore
[03:27] <ScottK> l/ll
[03:29] <ryanakca> ScottK: OK, thanks
[03:43] <valorie> damn it, that didn't work
[03:43] <valorie> HD has too many pins to fit into this lappy
[05:50] <MLx_O> any idea if/when will amd64 build be back?
[05:51] <persia> Build of which?
[05:51] <MLx_O> the whole .iso
[05:51] <persia> Oh.  Probably in the next couple days.
[05:52] <MLx_O> In time for beta release I suppose? ;)
[05:52] <valorie> it's gone?
[05:53] <MLx_O> valorie: haven't seen it on http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/ for 3 days now
[05:54] <valorie> heh, probably moments after I downloaded
[05:54] <valorie> didn't work for me
[05:56] <valorie> it isn't available for ooo bun too either
[05:56] <valorie> so presumably the broken bits are in the common stack
[05:59] <valorie> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/maverick/
[05:59] <valorie> netboot is available for ubuntu, however
[07:57] <jussi> apachelogger: who what?
[08:37] <apachelogger> well then
[08:37] <apachelogger> I fell asleep on my keyboard \o.
[08:37] <apachelogger> see, that is my left arm being broken
[08:38] <apachelogger> good morning Kubuntu :)
[08:38] <jussi> good morning apachelogger
[08:41] <valorie> I thought you were paying your bed a visit?
[08:42] <apachelogger> valorie: yeah, the night before ;)
[08:42] <valorie> sleep is good for your health
[08:42] <valorie> and your brain
[08:42] <apachelogger> not on a keyboad though :P
[08:42] <valorie> sleeping on keyboard, not so much
[08:42] <valorie> lol
[08:42]  * apachelogger feels very relaxed and full of energy for this new day ... ;)
[08:43] <apachelogger> jussi: so, the ninja cmd is missing quite some people, which made me think that maybe it would be a good idea to just have it draw names from launchpad
[08:44] <jussi> apachelogger: thats a lot of work. if you give me a list of names Ill update it now though. 
[08:44] <jussi> apachelogger: however, patches will be taken ;)
[08:45] <apachelogger> dude, I had enough pyth0rn for the next decade or two
[08:45] <jussi> lol
[08:45] <jussi> apachelogger: thing is, Tsimpsons net is still down and while I can manipulate the bot well, writing new stuff is a little beyond me.
[08:46] <apachelogger> *nod*
[08:46] <apachelogger> well
[08:46] <apachelogger> I can craft an update manually
[08:46] <jussi> apachelogger: as I said, give me what you want there and Ill make it happen
[08:46] <apachelogger> which would of course be easier if someone had thought of maintaining the list in alphabetical order :P
[08:46] <jussi> lol
[08:50] <apachelogger> on that note, what happened to lex?
[08:50] <apachelogger> ...IIRC he did not say he would be away that long...
[08:51] <apachelogger> Ninja Time! apachelogger, bulldog98, debfx, JontheEchidna, Lex79, maco, neversfelde, nhandler, Quintasan, rgreening, Riddell, ScottK, stalcup, txwikinger
[08:51] <apachelogger> go package 4.5.1 :PPPPP
[08:51] <apachelogger> jussi: ^
[08:52] <jussi> !-ninjas
[08:52] <jussi> !no, ninjas-#kubuntu-devel is <reply> Ninja Time! apachelogger, bulldog98, debfx, JontheEchidna, Lex79, maco, neversfelde, nhandler, Quintasan, rgreening, Riddell, ScottK, stalcup, txwikinger
[08:52] <apachelogger> thank you
[09:08] <jussi> apachelogger: if it ever gets out of date, just do exactly as I did there but with new names, and it will appear in -ops and someone can update it.
[09:38] <apachelogger> jussi: cool, thanks
[09:38] <apachelogger> now hopefully I remember that ^^
[09:38] <jussi> :D
[09:44] <persia> apachelogger, If not, there are logs.  Just grep for jussi*ninjas*
[09:44] <jussi> !addfact | persia apachelogger
[09:44] <apachelogger> persia: just that my logs live in a postgres db on a server that is not mine ;)
[09:46]  * persia mumbles vaguely about the importance of control of one's personal data
[09:56] <apachelogger> Sput: you know, it would be cool to have an akonadi agent that interfaces with the quasselcore and holds a local cache of my logs so I have control over it in a way ;)
[09:57] <apachelogger> actually from an advertising POV it ought to be easily advertisable, even if it does not exactly have much use ^^
[09:59] <apachelogger> 64 bit or 32 bit install for my new laptop?
[10:00]  * apachelogger never had a 64 install...
[10:04]  * persia always uses 64-bit
[10:04] <persia> It only really matters if you have >2GB RAM.  For that, you get better performance at 64-bit.
[10:04] <apachelogger> oh, that said
[10:04] <persia> If you have less, it doesn't matter (although I run 64-bit on machines with less out of habit)
[10:04] <Sput> apachelogger: from an advertising POV, people seem to despise everything that mentions akonadi :P
[10:04] <apachelogger> I have 6 so I suppose 64 would make more sense ^^
[10:05] <apachelogger> hm, I wonder why that it ...
[10:05] <apachelogger> might it be "FAIL!!? YOU STUPID USER MESSED MY SETUP UP!!!!!!!!!!!"
[10:06] <apachelogger> persia: are no amd64 dailies built?
[10:06] <persia> Depends on the flavour.  They are supposed to exist for kubuntu desktop/netbook
[10:06] <apachelogger> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily/current/
[10:06] <apachelogger> nothing there
[10:08] <persia> Probably because of http://launchpadlibrarian.net/54223991/buildlog_ubuntu-maverick-amd64.qimageblitz_1:0.0.6-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz but I'd have to dig longer to be sure
[10:09] <persia> Easy enough to make qimageblitz work on amd64/armel/powerpc and *not* i386, but I don't think that's really the right solution.
[10:10] <persia> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/livefs-build-logs/maverick/kubuntu/current/livecd-20100830-amd64.out says I'm wrong about that: the livefs got created.
[10:11] <apachelogger> persia: ubuntu does not have amd64 listed either http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/
[10:13] <persia> Odd.  That's definitely a bug.
[10:13] <persia> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/cd-build-logs/kubuntu/maverick/daily-20100830.log whines about "No alternate CD for amd64!" but I'm not quite sure why
[10:17] <persia> Server is missing also, which makes me think there's some global messiness.
[10:27]  * apachelogger likes how k3b is not integrating properly into KDE
[10:36] <apachelogger> the manual partition thing is horrible to use
[11:38] <apachelogger> jtechidna: maybe knh should offer an option to turn off apport if crash reports are turned off, when I logged into gnome the other day the gtk ui of apport went crazy on me ^^
[11:39] <apachelogger> also the toehr way around I do think that the application crashes item should not be shown unless apport is installed and enabled since it might be misleading otherwise
[13:53] <txwikinger> apachelogger: ok?
[14:31] <sheytan> Hey
[14:31] <sheytan> if i would make a mockup of kubuntu start screen would it be possible that someone will implement it? :D
[14:35] <apachelogger> sheytan: that would first require discussion at a meeting since we traditionally stick with KDE's artwork
[14:36] <sheytan> apachelogger i would use KDE's artwork :)
[14:36] <apachelogger> then I am not sure what you mean
[14:36] <sheytan> When i find sometime, i'll make one. Maybe for 11.04 :D
[14:36] <sheytan> apachelogger when you put the cd, you get things like 'start kubuntu' 'check cd' and 'memory test'
[14:36] <sheytan> this screen
[14:36] <sheytan> it doesn't look nice right now :P
[14:37] <apachelogger> well
[14:37] <apachelogger> you dont have much options there
[14:37] <apachelogger> it is not like there i a larige color space available at that point
[14:37] <sheytan> btw, someone could replace the bars that shows partitions usage with the oxygen one used in kde ( if possible) :D
[14:37] <sheytan> maybe not, but we can make it look better :)
[14:41] <apachelogger> I am all in favor of making things look better ^^
[14:44] <sheytan> apachelogger who can i talk to about the partition usage bars? :D
[14:44] <apachelogger> sheytan: shtylman I suppose
[14:45] <sheytan> apachelogger ok, thanks. I'll talk to him when he comes ;)
[14:50] <sheytan> Btw, someone reeeeaaaaly should make a device action for system update. I mean, when you put the new release cd, it should be easy to run upgrade  to the new release of Kubuntu
[14:51] <sheytan> apachelogger where can i request a feature?
[14:51] <sheytan> Lanunchpad?
[14:51] <apachelogger> depends on the feature
[14:51] <sheytan> apachelogger ^^^
[14:51] <apachelogger> launchpad
[14:51] <apachelogger> will not be of much use though
[14:52] <apachelogger> I recommend proposing it on the mailing list and finding a developer who is going to implement that
[14:52] <sheytan> apachelogger kubuntu-devel mailing list/
[14:52] <sheytan> ?
[14:52] <apachelogger> yus
[14:53] <sheytan> i just unsubscribed couse i get to many messages from there :D
[14:53] <sheytan> but i'll do it again
[14:55] <sheytan> the installation take much more time with the new installer :(
[15:20] <apachelogger> bzr builddeb is the broken
[15:20] <apachelogger> oh noes
[15:20] <apachelogger> no I must manually merge
[15:20] <yofel> sheytan: really? it felt faster here
[15:20] <sheytan> yofel yep
[15:21] <yofel> slow network connection maybe? as it seems to download more things now
[15:21] <sheytan> launchpad sucks
[15:21] <sheytan> 2mbps
[15:21] <sheytan> launchpad is horrible hard. Find something there suuuucks :D
[15:21] <yofel> use google with 'site:launchpad.net' :P
[15:22] <sheytan> I just don't want use lanuchpad :D
[15:22] <yofel> it's not *that* bad usually...
[16:25] <CIA-71> [kdeaccessibility] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100830152528-elsxvkk4bara28z5 * debian/changelog New upstream release
[16:33] <apachelogger> oh
[16:33] <apachelogger> bzr resolve also seems slightly out of line
[16:34] <apachelogger> hooray \o/
[16:50] <CIA-71> [kdemultimedia] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100830155031-lfe4ro5cbviur3z5 * debian/changelog New upstream release
[17:24] <bulldog98> apachelogger: I take over kdeadmin
[17:25] <bulldog98> apachelogger: I need access to ktown
[17:27]  * shadeslayer waves to bulldog98
[17:27] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: rekonq maverick daily builds are a bit messed up, can you have a look when your free?
[17:27]  * bulldog98 waves to shadeslayer
[17:28] <apachelogger> bulldog98: you really just need someone to give you the tarball 
[17:28] <bulldog98> apachelogger: so could you do that
[17:28] <shadeslayer> i could upload it
[17:28] <apachelogger> no, but shadeslayer maybe
[17:28] <shadeslayer> yeah hold on
[17:28] <apachelogger> I am currently wasting all my bandwith on kdegames
[17:28] <shadeslayer> :)
[17:28] <bulldog98> shadeslayer: I look to that
[17:28] <shadeslayer> yeah kdegames is huge :P
[17:29] <bulldog98> apachelogger: I’ll download with 54kbit/sec
[17:29]  * shadeslayer tries a ktown to people.ubuntu.com direct copy
[17:32] <shadeslayer> bulldog98: http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/packages/
[17:32] <shadeslayer> its still copying
[17:32] <shadeslayer> and done...
[17:38] <apachelogger> hm
[17:38] <apachelogger> uploading kdegames and doing a windows upgrade cant be a good idea
[17:40] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: it would appear to me that the rekonq address bar is blocking while waiting for suggestions
[17:40] <apachelogger> which would, considering that I have a slowish connection, explain the laggyness
[17:41] <apachelogger> because now I am on my new laptop and it still fails to update as quickly as I type
[17:41] <apachelogger> so I think hardware and config problems fall flat as possible cases
[17:55] <lex79> Hello Kubuntu ! :)
[17:58] <apachelogger> lex79 \o/
[17:58] <lex79> :-*
[17:58]  * apachelogger would order a welcome back party from kubotu, but since jussi stole the poor bot ... ;)
[17:59] <lex79> apachelogger: can you add this key in ktown? https://launchpad.net/~alessandro-ghersi/+sshkeys
[17:59] <lex79> and delete the old one please...thanks
[18:00] <apachelogger> lex79: done
[18:00] <lex79> ok thanks
[18:00] <apachelogger> hm, apparently dput failed at   Uploading kdegames_4.5.1.orig.tar.bz2: 56672k/56673k
[18:00] <apachelogger> is stuck there for 5 minutes now :/
[18:00]  * apachelogger grows ever so sad and restarts upload
[18:03] <CIA-71> [kdegames] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100830170327-y53a6yi9174tyt92 * debian/changelog New upstream release
[18:04] <lex79> apachelogger: Permission denied (publickey)
[18:04] <lex79> :(
[18:04] <apachelogger> lex79: maybe kate likes to eat remote files now
[18:04] <apachelogger> lets try again
[18:05] <lex79> uhm
[18:05] <lex79> apachelogger: use nano then :)
[18:05] <apachelogger> you did not just say that!?!?!
[18:05] <apachelogger> that reminds me
[18:05] <lex79> hihih :)
[18:06] <apachelogger> I know for a fact that Quintasan is not using vim
[18:06] <apachelogger> because vim makes UNRELEASED super duper red backgrounded so one notices
[18:06] <apachelogger> Quintasan did not notice for the rc we skipped and went on to 4.5.0
[18:06] <lex79> lol
[18:06] <apachelogger> which either means he is close to blind OR not using vim
[18:07] <apachelogger> lex79: try agai
[18:08] <lex79> apachelogger: thanks it works now
[18:08] <apachelogger> ah
[18:08] <apachelogger> bbiab
[18:11]  * bulldog98 debuilding kdeadmin and 2 of 3 patches are now in Upstream
[18:13] <bulldog98> apachelogger: version number should be 4.5.1-0ubuntu1~ppa1 right?
[18:13] <bulldog98> +Epoche
[18:13] <debfx> bulldog98: yes
[18:14] <bulldog98> cause the number in bzr was 4.5.0b
[18:16] <bulldog98> apachelogger: should I bump the Build-Depends to 4.5.1?
[18:17] <ScottK> apachelogger: If Quintasan gets sponsored to UDS, we can take a moment when his guardian is distracted and give him some "encouragement" about proper editor usage.
[18:19] <jussi> apachelogger: that server may comeback online soon.. company said they might upgrade my net...
[18:19] <jjesse> ScottK: reported bug on plasma-widget-menubar per email: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-widget-menubar/+bug/626935
[18:19] <ScottK> jjesse: Great.  Hopefully agateau can have a look at it.
[18:20] <jjesse> let me know how i can help
[18:23] <ScottK> That's all I know of.  We need to hear from agateau now.
[18:24]  * bulldog98 is thinking about weather it’s normal that there is a file gone since 4.5.0
[18:26] <lex79> debfx: why you removed/changed so many our "conflicts/replaces" in Qt ?
[18:26] <lex79> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/qt/ubuntu/revision/111#debian/control
[18:27] <bulldog98> this is my error I get cause a file has gone in KDE: http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/191
[18:27] <lex79> Hi JontheEchidna !
[18:28] <JontheEchidna> Hi
[18:28] <bulldog98> JontheEchidna: found your easter egg
[18:28] <JontheEchidna> ;-)
[18:29] <ulysses> bulldog98: the Supercow power? where?
[18:29] <bulldog98> JontheEchidna: and translated it into German ;-)
[18:29] <bulldog98> ulysses: Ctrl+Shift+M
[18:30] <JontheEchidna> translated it? I don't think I made it translatable... (it requires a fixed-width font)
[18:30] <bulldog98> JontheEchidna: I did it and it works 
[18:30] <ulysses> JontheEchidna: it's translatable, but aptitude contains also a similar sentence, so there isn't any problem
[18:30] <ulysses> and it's funny:)
[18:30] <bulldog98> JontheEchidna: found that only because I’ve translated it and I had to search the source code to use it
[18:31] <JontheEchidna> oh, right
[18:31] <JontheEchidna> but the picture isn't translateable ;)
[18:31] <JontheEchidna> I forgot there was another sentence in that dialog
[18:31] <bulldog98> JontheEchidna: yes
[18:32] <bulldog98> JontheEchidna: do you know if it can happen that KDE drops files with an new Bugfix release?
[18:32] <JontheEchidna> perhaps. It wouldn't be common but it would also not be impossible
[18:33] <JontheEchidna> e.g. even a file name change will show up as a removal + an addition
[18:33] <bulldog98> JontheEchidna: it’s an removal
[18:35] <ScottK> It happens
[18:36] <bulldog98> btw is debuild multithreadable?
[18:36] <ScottK> debuild is a wrapper, so it depends.
[18:36] <ScottK> dpkg-buildpackage can do parallel builds if they are supported by the package.
[18:36] <bulldog98> hm ok ScottK but it is an picture of the doc. So I was asking if it would be OK.
[18:37] <bulldog98> Ok thanks ScottK for that information
[18:48] <bulldog98> I also got an new app
[18:48] <bulldog98> forgot about that but the app got new things
[19:17] <bulldog98> can I ignore knetworkconf because it was disabled in 4.4.3
[19:25] <sabdfl> anybody interested in helping setup a daily build of scribus-ng?
[19:25] <sabdfl> i mailed Oleksander, the debian maintainer who is also an upstream committer
[19:25] <sabdfl> he takes very good care of (K)ubuntu users, has more recent packages in an archive with great docs etc
[19:26] <sabdfl> and he's keen to collaborate on a daily build
[19:29] <ScottK> shadeslayer or yofel: Maybe you two would be interested  ^^^
[19:34] <yofel> hm, shouldn't be too hard if we use recipes, if the source on https://edge.launchpad.net/scribus is what should be used that is
[19:35] <ScottK> sabdfl: ^^^ A volunteer.  He's been working on KDE nightly builds, so should be just about perfect to help out.
[19:46] <apachelogger> bulldog98: no version bumps unless necessary
[19:47] <bulldog98> apachelogger: ok and to the knetworkconf? Should I enable it or not
[19:48] <apachelogger> ScottK: yeah, that is a very good idea ... now only if I got sponsored ^^
[19:48] <apachelogger> jussi: cool
[19:48]  * jussi crosses fingers
[19:48] <apachelogger> bulldog98: that what the where the when?
[19:49] <EagleScreen>          /join ubuntu+1
[19:49] <apachelogger> EagleScreen: loose the whitespaces there ;)
[19:49] <sabdfl> yofel, ScottK: coolio!
[19:49] <bulldog98> apachelogger: knetworkconf is enabled in control since 4.4.3 sync with debian
[19:49] <yofel> sabdfl: any way I can talk to Oleksander on irc?
[19:50]  * apachelogger notes that the free ati driver is super silly in making the flipping gpu fan spin like wild... and that fan is like super loud
[19:50] <apachelogger> very helicopter like ^^
[19:50] <bulldog98> apachelogger: mind your computer is rising into the air
[19:50] <apachelogger> bulldog98: and what is the problem?
[19:50] <sabdfl> yofel: i bet he's on both freenode and oftc
[19:50] <bulldog98> apachelogger: should i enable it or not
[19:51] <bulldog98> it’s only uncommenting the lines
[19:51] <apachelogger> bulldog98: you just said that it is enabled since 4.4.3?
[19:51] <bulldog98> apachelogger: it’s disabled since 4.4.3
[19:51] <apachelogger> then leave it disabled? ^^
[19:51] <bulldog98> apachelogger: sorry writing mistake
[19:52] <bulldog98> apachelogger: ok
[19:52]  * bulldog98 builds kdeadmin in pbuilder to satify it’s deps
[19:53] <apachelogger> also
[19:53] <apachelogger> bulldog98: you need to do more careful research
[19:53] <apachelogger> it is disabled since 4.2.1-0ubuntu3 (jaunty time)
[19:53] <apachelogger> and the changelog entry says that it is disabled because it is utterly broken
[19:54] <bulldog98> apachelogger: the last says the same
[19:54] <apachelogger> well, then, why do you ask :P
[19:54] <apachelogger> clearly the only reason to turn it on again would be that it got unbroken
[19:54] <apachelogger> which is not the case
[19:54] <apachelogger> so ... :)
[19:54] <bulldog98> apachelogger: to make sure the things I do are right
[19:54] <bulldog98> :)
[19:55] <apachelogger> point taken ^^
[19:56] <apachelogger> oh
[19:57] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: http://aplg.kollide.net/images/avatar/snapshot1.png
[19:57] <apachelogger> what i that then?
[20:20] <CIA-71> [kdetoys] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100830192034-krummcj2mao6xaed * debian/changelog New upstream release
[20:23] <lex79> debfx: in case you lost my last message, why you removed/changed so many our "conflicts/replaces" in Qt ?
[20:23] <lex79> debfx: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/qt/ubuntu/revision/111#debian/control
[20:31] <bulldog98> what to do if pbuilder ended successfully (I’m not an kubuntu-member)
[20:43] <bulldog98> apachelogger: would it be clever to undo the build of knetworkconf, too? So launchpad doesn’t get that much work?
[20:44] <apachelogger> bulldog98: not worth the effort IMHO
[20:44] <apachelogger> that would probably only cut one minute of the build time
[20:55]  * apachelogger notes that building with an i7 is very nice
[20:57]  * yofel agrees
[20:59]  * rbelem would like to own a computer with i7 :'(
[20:59] <CIA-71> [kdewebdev] Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20100830195942-y48cgwvk3zi135ba * debian/changelog New upstream release
[21:02] <apachelogger> rbelem: write a letter to intel ... dear intelz, I very much luv your products, especially the i7, but I do not posses a PC to put an i7 in, also I have no i7 I could put into a PC, which is very sad. it would be super awesome if you could send me a PC and an i7 to put into that PC. yada yada regards.
[21:03] <apachelogger> note that it must be a letter, they wont believe you if you send an email
[21:03] <rbelem> LOL
[21:03] <rbelem> that will not work
[21:04] <rbelem> are ou sure it will work?
[21:04] <rbelem> :-D
[21:05] <dantti_work> it will, you'll won two PCs
[21:05] <apachelogger> rbelem: well, it would be worth a try, would it not? also intel is a large company, so there are bound to be spare PCs standing around in some room no one knows about because the person who knew was sacked
[21:05] <ScottK> yofel: I'd look up his email address and email him about IRC contact.
[21:06] <rbelem> ehehe
[21:06] <rbelem> i think i will try
[21:06] <dantti_work> rbelem: before you try be sure to erase your name from google :P
[21:07] <apachelogger> I do not think intel employees get payed for googling
[21:07] <bulldog98> apachelogger: finished what to do to upload it
[21:07] <yofel> ScottK: mark cc'd me to the mails so I will
[21:07] <ScottK> yofel: Great.
[21:07] <apachelogger> bulldog98: are you member of kubuntu-ninjas?
[21:07] <bulldog98> apachelogger: yes
[21:08] <apachelogger> suffix the version with ~ppa1 and set the target series to maverick
[21:08] <rbelem> dantti_work, you should try too, as far as i remember you computer is a little bit old too, isn't it?
[21:08] <ScottK> Any one having any luck with Kubuntu Maverick beta installs (Live)
[21:08] <apachelogger> then build a source package and dput it to ppa:kubuntu-ninjas
[21:08] <apachelogger> then debcommit your bzr changes and push the branch
[21:08] <bulldog98> apachelogger: debcommit?
[21:08] <apachelogger> then find someone to check your commit
[21:09] <apachelogger> bulldog98: man debcommit
[21:09] <apachelogger> oh, you cannot commit
[21:09] <apachelogger> you are not kubuntu member ;)
[21:09] <dantti_work> rbelem: my wife returned my core2duo when I brought her a vaio :P
[21:09] <apachelogger> bulldog98: either create a bzr merge directive (bzr send --help) or a regular patch (bzr diff) and send it to apachelogger@ubuntu.com
[21:09] <rbelem> ehehe
[21:10] <debfx> lex79: these conflicts aren't necessary for lucid->maverick upgrades
[21:10] <dantti_work> rbelem: now I want a vaio :P don't you wanna buy a Dell?
[21:10] <apachelogger> dont buy dells with ati cards :P
[21:10] <apachelogger> you will get a helicopter for free
[21:11] <rbelem> dantti_work, mine is a core2duo too, but it takes too long to compile
[21:11] <dantti_work> no, it's a NVidia 8400gs
[21:11] <apachelogger> well, if you want that then get a machine with ati chip
[21:11] <apachelogger> ultimately HD
[21:11] <dantti_work> rbelem: which clock? mine is 2.4 pretty fast
[21:11] <rbelem> 2.2
[21:12]  * apachelogger is about to finish uprading to vista sp1 \\o/
[21:12] <bulldog98> rbelem: buy server hardware (two 8 Cores and 64GiBi Ram) and you won’t have to worry anymore
[21:12] <rbelem> ehehe
[21:12] <apachelogger> writing a letter to IBM?
[21:12] <yofel> ScottK: I'll try the installation again in a moment, but is 'try kubuntu' supposed to work currently? I get the installer with a slideshow and nothing else http://yofel.dyndns.org/pics/ext/live.png
[21:12] <rbelem> the problem here is money :-D
[21:12] <apachelogger> dear I bee em...
[21:13] <apachelogger> beem
[21:13] <apachelogger> scotty!
[21:13] <apachelogger> \o/
[21:13] <rbelem> it would be nice to receive a big black box with the ibm brand :-D
[21:13] <apachelogger> oh
[21:13] <apachelogger> you know
[21:13] <dantti_work> rbelem: you will know that when your child is born, no more money for tech stuff :P
[21:14] <apachelogger> there is one aspect about server hardware that no one considers
[21:14] <apachelogger> running that stuff is flipping expensive
[21:14] <apachelogger> !!!
[21:14] <apachelogger> like srsly
[21:14] <apachelogger> cooling alone
[21:14]  * apachelogger just started crying
[21:15] <rbelem> dantti_work, i'm already preparing myself for that :'(
[21:15] <apachelogger> eh
[21:15] <apachelogger> Oo
[21:15] <apachelogger> does apport disobey my orders from /etc/default/apport now
[21:16] <apachelogger> or is it that hook stuff that thinks I want to hear crap from apport?
[21:17] <rbelem> apachelogger, i imagine that servers should make the energy bill much more expensive
[21:18] <apachelogger> unless you are married to the boss of the energy provider
[21:18] <rbelem> eheheh
[21:19] <apachelogger> or something similar, while he is married to someone else
[21:19] <apachelogger> ...
[21:21] <ScottK> yofel: It hasn't been updated since Friday when it didn't work, but it's not clear if that was a one time failure of if everything fails.
[21:27] <yofel> ScottK: well, the 'try kubuntu' option gives me only the slideshow no matter how often I try it
[21:27]  * yofel goes looking at .xsession-errors
[21:27] <ScottK> Thanks.
[21:27] <ScottK> yofel: It doesn't look like bug 625586 does it?
[21:28] <yofel> no, there's plenty of memory left and no oom-killer messages, it just doesn't do anything
[21:28] <yofel> erm, as what user is the installer being run?
[21:29] <ScottK> No idea.
[21:29] <ScottK> I do know it's supposed to start installing as soon as it can and be working on installing stuff while it asks you questions.
[21:30] <yofel> ScottK: yeah, but I'm not trying to *install* it, I want to try the live disk
[21:30] <ScottK> Right.
[21:30] <yofel> but the installer doesn't let me
[21:30] <ScottK> IIRC that worked.
[21:45] <bulldog98> apachelogger: send that mail
[21:47] <apachelogger> hm
[21:48] <apachelogger> bulldog98: 
[21:48] <apachelogger> -usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/ksystemlog/groupby-hour.png
[21:48] <apachelogger> +#usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/ksystemlog/groupby-hour.png
[21:48] <apachelogger> what is the story behind that?
[21:48] <apachelogger> +debian-changes-4:4.5.1-0ubuntu1~ppa1
[21:48] <apachelogger> and that is 100% wrong
[21:48] <bulldog98> apachelogger: that file is gone in the sourcepackage
[21:49] <apachelogger> so why did you comment it out?
[21:49] <bulldog98> apachelogger: maybe it’ll come back
[21:49] <apachelogger> bulldog98: what makes you think that?
[21:50] <bulldog98> apachelogger: hm normally I wouldn’t purge an picture for an doc
[21:50] <bulldog98> maybe an mistake
[21:51] <apachelogger> well
[21:51] <apachelogger> why did it disappear from the source?
[21:51] <bulldog98> apachelogger: I don’t know
[21:52] <apachelogger> bulldog98: see, that is the wrong answer ;)
[21:52] <apachelogger> bulldog98: I recommend you take a look at KDE websvn and try to find a trace of that file and what happened to it
[21:52] <apachelogger> because it might very well be that its removal was accidential and now the the documentation would be broken
[21:53] <bulldog98> apachelogger: I’ll do that
[21:58] <bulldog98> apachelogger: ok that picture was defently old
[22:00] <bulldog98> apachelogger: and that was an doc update
[22:01] <bulldog98> apachelogger: next time I know for what I have to check
[22:04] <apachelogger> bulldog98: :)
[22:04] <apachelogger> bulldog98: once you have a new patch, just send it my way
[22:04]  * apachelogger is going to go to bed, properly, not keyboard ^^
[22:05] <bulldog98> apachelogger: if I do a new patch, do I have to reupload the package?
[22:05] <bulldog98> and bump ppa1 to ppa2?
[22:05] <apachelogger> yes
[22:05] <bulldog98> apachelogger: ok doing that
[22:05] <apachelogger> because you actually uploaded a poluted package it seems (from that debian-changes line I pasted earlier)
[22:06] <apachelogger> so make sure your package does not contain changes outside patches
[22:06]  * apachelogger out
[22:29] <dantti_work> can someone confirm to me that ScanDesktopFiles is false in /etc/PackageKit/PAckageKit.conf in maverick?
[22:31] <dantti_work> according to http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~packagekit/packagekit/ubuntu-maverick/annotate/head:/debian/patches/defaults.patch it is false
[22:31] <dantti_work> ScottK: can you make it true?
[22:32] <ScottK> dantti_work: I could accept it if someone like apachelogger or JontheEchidna would upload it.
[22:33] <ScottK> If I upload it, I can't accept it and with riddell away, it's best we leave it so I can.
[22:34] <dantti_work> right, it's weird cause riddell told me he enabled this, and now a friend told me it isn't :P
[22:59] <sheytan> shtylman hi there ;)
[22:59] <sheytan> i've got an idea about the kubuntu installer
[23:45] <Riddell> how's the installer doing?