| vbgunz_ | im going to get a 60gb vertex 2 ssd disk in a couple days. anybody got experience with one? My main concern is something called alignment. I wish to install everything onto it and possibly without partitioning it (using the whole disk). The thing is, my /home is located on another disk and I want to keep it like that. I don't want a swap partition but a swap file (to avoid partitioning), any tips? | 00:34 |
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| Torch | vbgunz_: what's so bad about partitioning? | 00:54 |
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| vbgunz_ | Torch: partitioning an ssd correctly involves some weird science. I mean, you just can't partition it and be done with it, you gotta align heads, sectors and a bunch of other gibberish stuff that you probably aint never think about before | 02:59 |
| vbgunz_ | Torch: anyhow, supposedly, if you dont partition an ssd and just use the entire disk, everything is aligned correctly. my disk coming in is small 60gb and the only real partition I need is my /home *but* thats already on another disk | 03:00 |
| Torch | vbgunz_: just make sure you align the partition start correctly. | 03:00 |
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| vbgunz_ | Torch: easier said than done. I've been checking out the ocz forum and there is no solid walk through or step by step thats assured to work for me except simply using the whole disk | 03:01 |
| Torch | vbgunz_: i'm not familiar with SSDs but i would be really surprised if you ran into any problems provided you just align all partitions on a 4096 sector boundary | 03:02 |
| Torch | vbgunz_: i.e. make sure they start at a sector number evenly divisable by 4096 | 03:03 |
| vbgunz_ | Torch, the FAQs at OCZ state 2048 Sectors or 1024KB | 03:04 |
| Torch | vbgunz_: right. so 4096 would be fine too, see? | 03:04 |
| Torch | vbgunz_: simple math. | 03:04 |
| Torch | vbgunz_: background reading: http://blog.volker-lanz.de/2010/05/30/new-in-kde-partition-manager-1-1-iii-support-for-4096-byte-sectors/ | 03:05 |
| vbgunz_ | my kde partition manager looks like it has a gnome interface | 03:05 |
| vbgunz_ | its just busted but im gonna check out that article | 03:05 |
| Torch | vbgunz_: partition manager 1.0.x cannot do what you need. | 03:06 |
| Torch | vbgunz_: screenshot please. | 03:06 |
| vbgunz_ | Torch: yeah, I have 1.0.1 | 03:06 |
| Torch | vbgunz_: there's no official release yet of 1.1, i'm afraid. either get it from svn and build yourself (not recommended ;-)) or use parted directly | 03:07 |
| Torch | vbgunz_: or don't partition if you really don't need more than one partition EVER on that thing... i'd never think of doing that, though. | 03:07 |
| vbgunz_ | Torch: I can show you a screenshot as I just took one, its the only kde app that looks like garbage whereas everything else is oxygen all the way | 03:08 |
| Torch | vbgunz_: i sure would like to see that. | 03:08 |
| vbgunz_ | what photo sharing site would be simplest to post too? | 03:08 |
| Torch | vbgunz_: ah, your root user has a crappy style set. | 03:09 |
| vbgunz_ | Torch: I don't think so, one sec | 03:09 |
| Torch | vbgunz_: use the pastebin plasmoid | 03:09 |
| vbgunz_ | Torch: yeah I think you right | 03:09 |
| vbgunz_ | gotta launch kdesudo systemsettings and change my root theme? | 03:10 |
| Torch | vbgunz_: exactly | 03:10 |
| vbgunz_ | cause damn, its so busted | 03:10 |
| Torch | vbgunz_: or try "partitionmanager --dontsu" from a shell... it'll bitch about not having root, but you can force it. i bet it will look okay then. | 03:10 |
| vbgunz_ | Torch: it looks awesome, otherwise it was looking like GTK 1 | 03:11 |
| vbgunz_ | heh | 03:11 |
| Torch | vbgunz_: sounds terrifying ;-) | 03:12 |
| vbgunz_ | supposedly though, I can use the entire disk. I never used an entire disk before. I have always partitioned my disk. but using a whole disk shouldn't be a bad idea, I am just worried about grub, installing it onto the ssd should work I hope? | 03:13 |
| Torch | vbgunz_: but anyway, don't use partitionmanager 1.0.x for your SSD, you'll run into alignment problems. (the blog entry explains why) | 03:13 |
| vbgunz_ | yeah I am gonna read that for absolutely sure | 03:13 |
| Torch | vbgunz_: i don't think you can install grub AND not partition | 03:13 |
| vbgunz_ | Torch: man, thats what I was afraid of, I believe it isn't possible | 03:14 |
| Torch | vbgunz_: if you don't partition, the filesystem will use the whole disk and start at sector 1. that's where grub would want to write some of its stuff... | 03:14 |
| draik | Hello everyone. I'm trying to figure out why I can't access a page online, but using the IP address works. Also, using a proxy shows that the site is available. | 03:14 |
| draik | By trying the IP, the whole site doesn't really function. I'm sure that's because it is tied into the use of the domain name, rather than being a relative path for the content/CSS | 03:15 |
| vbgunz_ | Torch, im gonna bust my ass then trying to figure out the correct alignment, Torch may I ask for your opinion? If I use fdisk to partition the alignment, hopefully I get it right, I can just pop in the install cd and use the partitions already available on the ssd *without* worrying about alignment anymore, correct? | 03:16 |
| Torch | vbgunz_: absolutely | 03:16 |
| Torch | vbgunz_: you just need to create ONE partition in parted (or fdisk, if you prefer) and set its start sector to 2048 and the last sector to the number of sectors. | 03:17 |
| Torch | vbgunz_: that's all. | 03:17 |
| vbgunz_ | Torch: maybe and hopefully I am being just sort of stupid and making this bigger than it really is, I am just trying to prepare for using this ssd and if I understand correctly, a whole lot more care needs to go into just setting one up. I think alignment was my only issue so I'll keep googling it | 03:17 |
| Torch | vbgunz_: you already have that thing in your computer? | 03:18 |
| vbgunz_ | no, I get it in a couple days, just trying to prepare myself for what I need before I just try to use it | 03:18 |
| Torch | draik: your conclusion sounds correct. it also sounds you have dns resolution problems on your kubuntu setup... | 03:19 |
| draik | Torch: I'm using Google's DNS on my router. | 03:19 |
| vbgunz_ | draik, I use google dns too | 03:19 |
| Torch | vbgunz_: you can just install it as a data disk, partition it, create a file system and benchmark it. if it's terribly slow you know the alignement is wrong. | 03:19 |
| vbgunz_ | whats the site? | 03:19 |
| draik | vbgunz_: t-mobile.com | 03:19 |
| vbgunz_ | I have my dns servers at 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 and t-mobile.com shows up for me just fine | 03:20 |
| draik | I get "404 - Not Found" | 03:20 |
| Torch | draik: with the host name or the IP address? | 03:21 |
| vbgunz_ | I use konqueror and it finishes the address like this http://www.t-mobile.com/ | 03:21 |
| draik | Torch: That's with the domain name. I can use the resolving IP address and it somewhat loads. | 03:21 |
| draik | And now it loads | 03:22 |
| draik | BTW, this was happening in Firefox and Opera | 03:22 |
| draik | To clarify, http://www.t-mobile.com works now. | 03:23 |
| Torch | draik: so your problem is solved for now? | 03:23 |
| vbgunz_ | hey Torch, I just want to thank you for suggestions and opinions, its all very much appreciated | 03:23 |
| draik | Torch: Yes. I also like that you added "for now". | 03:23 |
| Torch | vbgunz_: your welcome. | 03:23 |
| Torch | draik: heh ;-) | 03:23 |
| rav__ | hello. I had been having issues with Kontact, so the other day I closed it and started using the components separately. But now, when I try to use Kontact again, it opens the components in separate windows. Am I the only one with issues? | 03:25 |
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| rodeo_ | Hello everyone | 03:47 |
| rodeo_ | Someone to help me out! | 03:47 |
| rodeo_ | It seems no one in the channel right now! | 03:48 |
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| draik | Came and left? | 03:49 |
| draik | No wonder you don't get much support there, sparky. | 03:49 |
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| rodeo_ | hello | 04:13 |
| rodeo_ | My update software is not working | 04:14 |
| rodeo_ | It comes up errors all the time, without getting connected, how do I repair it | 04:14 |
| rodeo_ | Hello! update sofware not working! Help please! | 04:15 |
| scans | !update | 04:16 |
| ubottu | For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - To upgrade to Karmic (9.10) directly from Hardy (8.04) see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KarmicUpgrades/Kubuntu/8.04 - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading | 04:16 |
| rodeo_ | I have just installed Kubuntu 10.4 yesterday | 04:17 |
| rodeo_ | I believe thhis is the latest, so do I need upgrade? | 04:18 |
| rodeo_ | Again sound problem in Media players only video available, how do I correct this | 04:19 |
| rodeo_ | scans: you there! | 04:19 |
| scans | yes | 04:20 |
| rodeo_ | Help me with this two problems | 04:20 |
| rodeo_ | Is there a terminal command to correct this | 04:20 |
| rodeo_ | Scans: any idea | 04:22 |
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| dennister | downloaded and installed original bittorrent, with the gui, but it's not in my menus anywhere...how do I start the app? | 05:01 |
| frogonwheels | dennister: alt+f2 bittorrent ?? | 05:18 |
| dennister | frogonwheels: will try | 05:19 |
| dennister | oh, right...it's a console app...but I try to stay with the gui stuff 'cuz I train newbies | 05:20 |
| frogonwheels | dennister: so run konsole? | 05:35 |
| dennister | frogonwheels: no, I ended up doing a search on how to properly uninstall utorrent, which would always totally freeze my desktop, and then I was able to reinstall the newer version of uttorent under wine | 05:36 |
| frogonwheels | under wine? aren't there better torrent programs that would run native? | 05:37 |
| dennister | now I can download again...for some reason ktorrent and Transmission were not able to connect to hundreds of seeders all day | 05:38 |
| frogonwheels | hm oh -ok. | 05:38 |
| frogonwheels | dennister: what about running bittorrent? | 05:38 |
| dennister | ok, once in a blue moon ktorrent was able to connect to a lonely 1 peer out of hundreds of possibilities for that same file...but then only for a short time | 05:38 |
| frogonwheels | wow - strange | 05:39 |
| dennister | i think i'll give up on bittorrent, as I always did like utorrent, the ability to randomize my ports... | 05:39 |
| dennister | frogonwheels: strange is definitely the word for it | 05:39 |
| dennister | uttorent is so nice and small, and one of the leaders in battling the evil throttlers | 05:41 |
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| Guest2394 | hey guys got a question?... So i hvae grub installed to my USB Pen-drive so i need to boot from USB to boot into linux which i like so i no one can boot my linux-box whilst im away without the pen drive. so i was thinking is their any way i can encrypt my entire drive so it cant even be accessed without the pen-drive?. | 06:55 |
| DarthFrog | !encryption | Guest2394 | 07:01 |
| ubottu | Guest2394: For information on setting up encrypted private directories (8.10+) see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory | 07:01 |
| Guest2394 | thank you | 07:01 |
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| cayetano | hi@all | 08:37 |
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| cayetano | how can i install adobe flash player? I'am not very long a linux user.... So if anybody could help me... :-) | 08:38 |
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| sergio_ | salut!! | 09:32 |
| sergio_ | slt!! | 09:32 |
| sergio__ | salve | 09:40 |
| ubuntu | hello | 10:01 |
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| sergio__ | salve | 10:13 |
| sergio__ | !canali | 10:57 |
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| thedog | hi guys, i've updated kde to 4.5 but now kpackagekit looks ugly | 11:37 |
| thedog | is there a known reason? | 11:37 |
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| sergio__ | salve | 12:16 |
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| sergio__ | salve | 12:33 |
| sergio__ | tutto bene | 12:35 |
| sergio__ | salve | 12:41 |
| sergio__ | ciao | 12:58 |
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| sergio__ | salve | 13:10 |
| anita | help my music wont play in kbuntu | 13:17 |
| sergio__ | salve | 13:23 |
| sergio__ | !list | 13:23 |
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| Treq | /msg ubottu !bot | 13:25 |
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| FlashDeluxe | hi @ all! I`m new to linux and I have created a RAID Array and i dont know how to find out whicht letters this array has got (sdaX or sth else), how can i find out? | 14:24 |
| Belgy | your raid don´t have a "classic" /dev/sdaX | 14:28 |
| Belgy | it will be more like /dev/mapper_Grid_something | 14:29 |
| FlashDeluxe | its a hardware raid and i dont have sth like /dev/mapper_Grid_something, theres only a directory /dev/mapper with volume groups in it | 14:31 |
| FlashDeluxe | but i have a lot of sdaX/sdcX in my /dev | 14:31 |
| Belgy | "sudo dmraid -r" could help | 14:34 |
| FlashDeluxe | theres no command 'dmraid' on my system :( | 14:35 |
| Belgy | "sudo aptitude install dmraid" | 14:37 |
| FlashDeluxe | this command says 'No RAID disks' | 14:38 |
| FlashDeluxe | I think the reaseon is that i made a hardware raid, linux doesnt know anything about this array, because it only sees a harddisk?! | 14:40 |
| Belgy | oh right, didn't read carefully your previous message | 14:40 |
| FlashDeluxe | with fdisk -l /dev/sda and fdisk -l /dev/sdc i see the array, but i cannot change the ID :( | 14:41 |
| FlashDeluxe | i am a little bit confuseb because it says '/dev/sdc4 14593 38904 195286140 5 Extended' and '/dev/sda2 8 8510 68300347+ 5 Extended' | 14:43 |
| Belgy | sorry, this is beyond my knowledge :s | 14:44 |
| FlashDeluxe | now, whats that? Is the name of my hdd-array sda2 or sdc4? | 14:44 |
| Belgy | real hardware RAID is quite uncommon | 14:44 |
| FlashDeluxe | mhh ok :( | 14:44 |
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| e01 | hey all | 15:06 |
| e01 | what videcard you are using | 15:06 |
| e01 | i am using 8600gt and when resizing windows with kwin they looks ugly sliced | 15:07 |
| FlashDeluxe | e01: do you have the current nvidia drivers installed? | 15:09 |
| e01 | FlashDeluxe: yes | 15:09 |
| e01 | from the aptutude, right? | 15:10 |
| FlashDeluxe | i had the same prob, after i installed this driver http://www.treiberupdate.de/treiber-download/download-171185-treiber-nVidia-Linuxx86DisplayGeForce8600GT_8600GS_8400GS_95.html the problem was solved | 15:10 |
| FlashDeluxe | i have the 8600gt, too | 15:11 |
| e01 | i`ll test now | 15:13 |
| e01 | FlashDeluxe: i had problems when install it | 15:26 |
| e01 | can u help me because i broke my x | 15:26 |
| FlashDeluxe | e01: I can try. What kind of problems? | 15:27 |
| e01 | ahm.. the driver is 177.70.18 right? | 15:28 |
| e01 | when start instalation, accepting license... it show me an ERROR: If you are using a Linux 2.4 kernel.... | 15:28 |
| FlashDeluxe | yes it is, what kernel do you use? | 15:29 |
| e01 | 2.6.32 | 15:29 |
| e01 | 2.6.32-24-generic | 15:29 |
| FlashDeluxe | ok it should work with this kernel, so what did you do exactly? | 15:30 |
| e01 | sh Linux_x86_Display....run | 15:31 |
| FlashDeluxe | and what does it say if you do it? | 15:31 |
| e01 | nothink wrong, dialog to accept license, dialog to | 15:32 |
| e01 | hm.. | 15:32 |
| e01 | i am think that i had no kernel sources | 15:32 |
| e01 | needed for the compiling nvidia | 15:33 |
| FlashDeluxe | this could be an explanation ;) you definitly need the sources | 15:33 |
| FlashDeluxe | so install the sources and try again | 15:33 |
| e01 | how can i install them from aptitude with command line | 15:33 |
| FlashDeluxe | sudo aptitude install linux-source-2.6.32 | 15:35 |
| e01 | FlashDeluxe: again the same error | 15:46 |
| FlashDeluxe | can you poste the complete error? | 15:46 |
| e01 | http://new-tech.ro-ni.net:88/~e01/nvidia-installer.log | 15:48 |
| e01 | this is the log from the nvidia`s installer | 15:49 |
| FlashDeluxe | ok, do the following: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-`uname -r` | 15:53 |
| FlashDeluxe | and then try again | 15:53 |
| e01 | FlashDeluxe: again :( | 15:54 |
| FlashDeluxe | so you have kernel-sources and headers installed? | 15:55 |
| e01 | yes | 15:55 |
| FlashDeluxe | and you start the script with sudo or as root? | 15:55 |
| e01 | yes | 15:56 |
| FlashDeluxe | and gcc is also installed? | 15:56 |
| e01 | ofcourse :) | 15:57 |
| e01 | gcc 4.4 | 15:57 |
| FlashDeluxe | looks like the installer doenst find the sources, does /lib/modules/2.6.32-24-generic/build existß | 15:59 |
| e01 | how can i fix it? | 15:59 |
| e01 | i try to make symlink /usr/src/linux to point to the current sources but without success | 16:00 |
| FlashDeluxe | you can run the sh script with sudo sh Linux-bla-bla.run --kernel-source-path=/path/to/the/sources | 16:01 |
| jimmy51_ | sitting here browsing the web i just lost sound support. amarok was playing an mp3 and cut out... now no sound. i could reboot... but i'd like to know what happened. i closed my browser. | 16:03 |
| e01 | FlashDeluxe: the interesting is that with nvidia driver 256.44 i had no problems | 16:05 |
| e01 | it is compiled successful | 16:06 |
| FlashDeluxe | so, was it the driver which was installed before? | 16:08 |
| e01 | dunno, the recommended from the aptitude | 16:09 |
| FlashDeluxe | mhhh strange...then reinstall it, so that you have at least a X | 16:18 |
| FlashDeluxe | @all: how can i backup my partitiontable which is currently running (i made changes to it, these changes will take effect by the next reboot and it don`t want them to take effect, so i want to correct my changes back) | 16:23 |
| bbeck | I was wondering if anyone here has tried out the new ubuntu font with KDE? Does it look alright? | 16:32 |
| Anita | can i get help with kubuntu here or is there a channel for that | 16:35 |
| James147 | Anita: yup this is the place | 16:35 |
| Anita | ok i cannot play my music i saved from itunes after i installed kubuntu | 16:36 |
| James147 | !restricted | 16:37 |
| ubottu | For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats | 16:37 |
| Anita | ok thanks | 16:38 |
| muimota | hi I've just installed kubuntu 10.04.1 and updated to kde 4.5 | 16:45 |
| muimota | everything works great but programs in kpackagekit are twice | 16:45 |
| muimota | for example when installin eclipse | 16:46 |
| muimota | eclipse-jdt -3.5.2ubuntu4(amd64) | 16:47 |
| muimota | and eclipse-jdt -3.5.2-2ubuntu4.2(amd64) pacakges are avaliable . Which one should I install? | 16:47 |
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| James147 | muimota: heh, they are :S install the 4.2 one... the other gives me dependency errors :) | 16:54 |
| muimota | James147: thanks , is there a way to remove all the invalid packages | 16:55 |
| muimota | ? | 16:55 |
| James147 | muimota: there not "invalid"... they are just older versions that are in the main repos (the backports ppa you added adds newer versions)... not sure why kpackagekit is listing both versions though :s | 16:56 |
| muimota | James147: ah, cool it makes sense, tahnks | 16:57 |
| Anita | wonderful i have music and video playing | 16:57 |
| James147 | muimota: you should probally file a bug report for that is there isnt one already :) | 16:58 |
| Anita | now any help with torrents | 16:59 |
| Anita | it is way to slow | 16:59 |
| DarthFrog | Anita: Your ISP is probably throttling torrent traffic. | 17:03 |
| James147 | ^^ or many other factors could affect it | 17:05 |
| James147 | Anita: http://ktorrent.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1224 | 17:06 |
| alumno | hola | 17:09 |
| sergio | salve | 17:22 |
| sergio | !list | 17:24 |
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| sergio | salve | 17:26 |
| sergio | !list | 17:26 |
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| sergio | salve a tutti | 17:28 |
| DarthFrog | !it | sergio | 17:29 |
| ubottu | sergio: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette) | 17:29 |
| sjc | greetings | 17:34 |
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| Roey | DarthFrog: awesome nick | 17:49 |
| DarthFrog | :-) | 17:55 |
| robbit10 | How do I switch to Kubuntu from Ubuntu, and how do I switch back if I decide I don't like it? | 18:09 |
| DarthFrog | robbit10: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-deskop" | 18:10 |
| DarthFrog | robbit10: Then you can switch between Kubuntu (KDE) and Ubuntu (GNOME) when you login in, each time. | 18:10 |
| DarthFrog | It'd be your choice which you run. | 18:11 |
| robbit10 | DarthFrog, I have done that before and it mixes the menu's with GNOME and KDE apps, including Audio settings, appearance settings, and just any other GNOME settings app. It becomes a real mess that way.. Do you know a cleaner way? | 18:13 |
| DarthFrog | !purekde | 18:13 |
| ubottu | If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE » | 18:13 |
| khyron | hi hi afternoon | 18:57 |
| khyron | im new linux user | 18:57 |
| James147 | !hi | khyron | 18:58 |
| ubottu | khyron: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines . Enjoy your stay! | 18:58 |
| khyron | im brasilian | 19:00 |
| khyron | and not have good english | 19:01 |
| khyron | but i try | 19:01 |
| khyron | brb | 19:02 |
| robbit10 | !purekde | 19:04 |
| ubottu | If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE » | 19:04 |
| robbit10 | Erm, guys, the GNOME removal instructions for Kubuntu 10.04 are outdated... Where can I find a more up-to-date one? | 19:09 |
| maco | whats wrong with them? | 19:10 |
| robbit10 | The latest instructions are for Karmic.. And they don't encompass the applications installed by Ubuntu 10.04 | 19:10 |
| maco | oh | 19:11 |
| maco | they list individual packages? O_O wow | 19:11 |
| maco | it used to just be like...remove gtk and everything goes away | 19:11 |
| maco | or maybe thats how the puregnome one works...just removing qt | 19:12 |
| maco | anyway, the 9.10 instructions should work. there's not much change in default installed stuff, except run "dpkg -l indicator*" to see the indicator applets and umm pitivi is installed by default in ubuntu now | 19:12 |
| maco | though ... that pitivi change might be for 10.10. i dont remember... | 19:13 |
| robbit10 | maco: I'm impressed with what I see when I installed Kubuntu though. Kubuntu used to be this not-quite-polished, crashy, slow, buggy distribution. I've used it for less than a day, but still, what I have seen so far is extremely nice. | 19:14 |
| maco | yay! | 19:14 |
| James147 | robbit10: when did you use it before? the kde 4.x versions started out quite buggy due to it being an almsot complete rewrite | 19:16 |
| robbit10 | James147: Quite a while ago, back when it ran kde 3.5. I think it was on Kubuntu Gutsy, or something like that. | 19:17 |
| maco | gutsy had 4.1 | 19:17 |
| robbit10 | Then it was even earlier than that | 19:17 |
| maco | and was really buggy | 19:17 |
| robbit10 | By the way, while we're on the subject.. Is it safe to install KDE 4.5? | 19:18 |
| robbit10 | brb | 19:18 |
| James147 | maco: your sure? wasnt hardy the first to get kde 4.0 (with 3.5 as wells ) | 19:18 |
| maco | i think the desktop search stuff is problematic in it... but other than that, yeah | 19:18 |
| * maco facepalms | 19:18 | |
| maco | James147: i was thinking g comes after h | 19:19 |
| James147 | yeah, desktop search seems to be broken but other then that its much more responsive | 19:19 |
| robbit10 | Hmm... I won't install it even if it has one broken segment. This one seems to be working fine, so i'm not gonna touch that. | 19:29 |
| James147 | robbit10: up to you :) but I think the overall improvements in it are worth losing desktop search :) (well, not that I ever used them at all) | 19:32 |
| robbit10 | James147: Is it really that much better? I'll switch if it is really that much better. However, what would I have to do when the next version of Kubuntu hits? | 19:33 |
| maco | the next version of kubuntu has 4.5 already | 19:33 |
| maco | (im using it right now) | 19:33 |
| James147 | robbit10: I think it is (but then again I have been running it since the RC versions and cant quite remember what 4.4 was like) | 19:34 |
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| DarthFrog | KDE 4.5 is solid. Mind you, I don't use desktop search either. | 19:34 |
| James147 | robbit10: and if you upgrade to the next version not much will change... (the backports ppa will be disabled) but you will have kde4.5 in the main repos so that dosnt really matter | 19:34 |
| robbit10 | James147: In that case, I'll upgrade. | 19:35 |
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| atb | in Windows there is an option where you can press and release Ctrl and it makes a ring eminate from your cursor so you can find it if you've lost track of it... is there something similar in KDE 4? | 19:35 |
| atb | * cursor = mouse pointer | 19:36 |
| James147 | atb: last i checked there was soemthing in desktop effects to do taht | 19:36 |
| atb | James147: thanks for the tip! I was looking under mouse settings! | 19:36 |
| James147 | atb: although it made a ring of stars appear... didnt look as good as it could have :S | 19:37 |
| James147 | ^^although it did let you find your mouse quickly :) | 19:37 |
| robbit10 | James147: I've enabled the backports PPA repo and started up the Software Updates pane, and it blocked some updates.. is it safe to install these blocked updates? | 19:37 |
| James147 | robbit10: "sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude full-upgrade" (or using apt-get) is the ebst way to do it | 19:38 |
| James147 | robbit10: kpackagekit wont do it since it dosnt like upgrades that can remove/install other packages (which you need to upgrade) | 19:39 |
| robbit10 | James147: thanks :) | 19:39 |
| da196 | hello | 19:40 |
| James147 | atb: (the effect is called "Track Mouse" under the "Accessibility" section of the desktop effects window) | 19:40 |
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| atb | James147: I found it under Desktop Effects>All Effects>Track Mouse but it won't turn one since Kubuntu has been hell for me graphics wise. | 19:42 |
| James147 | atb: i take it then you cant enable the desktop effects? | 19:43 |
| James147 | (on the general tab that is) | 19:43 |
| atb | i tried once, but it gave me an error | 19:44 |
| atb | then i did it again and it let me... but nothing changed :/ | 19:44 |
| atb | everytime I log back into Kubuntu it resets all my graphic settings. I suspect it doesn't like that I've rotated one my monitors 90' | 19:44 |
| James147 | atb: hmm, dont see why it would care.... what graphics card do you have? | 19:44 |
| atb | a relatively modern GeForce | 19:45 |
| James147 | then it shouldnt have a problem... | 19:45 |
| James147 | atb: if you really think it is the rotated monitor i suggest disabling/rotating it back and trying (only to see if it actually is or if something else is wrong) | 19:46 |
| atb | it is: E-GEFORCE 8800GT 600MHZ 512MB 1.8GHZ DDR3 PCI-E | 19:46 |
| James147 | dam that should have no problems :) i am only on a 7300 :) | 19:46 |
| v3nd3tta`` | James147 did you overclock it or are you happy with your gk? | 19:48 |
| atb | did you install proprietary drivers or using the stock ones Kubuntu comes wiht? | 19:49 |
| James147 | havent overclocked it... wouldnt say i was happy with it (kde runs fine... but the dam thing hates shadows in any game) | 19:49 |
| v3nd3tta`` | i have it too but q3 runs fine :D | 19:49 |
| James147 | atb: i have the nvidia ones as the default ones dont handel 3d as well yet | 19:49 |
| v3nd3tta`` | the default ones can't even handle with the desktop effects | 19:50 |
| v3nd3tta`` | or mine could not | 19:50 |
| James147 | v3nd3tta``: in lucid? | 19:50 |
| v3nd3tta`` | yeah, when i upgraded, my desktop effects were disabled because i had to download the nvidia drivers | 19:51 |
| * James147 dosnt remember them sucking that much at desktop effects when he fist installed lucid | 19:51 | |
| atb | i guess my next step will be to install the nvidia ones | 19:51 |
| v3nd3tta`` | yep | 19:51 |
| v3nd3tta`` | you should do that | 19:51 |
| v3nd3tta`` | (i think) | 19:51 |
| James147 | atb: yup :) easiest to do that from jockey-kde (Hardware Drivers in the menu) (or installing nvidia-current) | 19:52 |
| atb | just "apt-get install nvidia-current" ? | 19:52 |
| James147 | atb: sudo ... but yeah :) | 19:53 |
| atb | ...or run as root :) | 19:53 |
| atb | which i learned not to do the hard way... :'( | 19:53 |
| James147 | atb: you shouldnt be doing :) | 19:53 |
| James147 | which you ^^ | 19:54 |
| atb | alright, installed... now to reboot! | 19:55 |
| James147 | dont need to reboot :) | 19:55 |
| James147 | ... | 19:55 |
| atb | wow... so now it no longer recognises my second monitor... this _worse_ than with the stock drivers :'( | 19:58 |
| James147 | longer? | 19:59 |
| James147 | atb: I would run "kdesudo nvidia-settings" to setup the second monitor | 20:00 |
| robbit10 | I'm running KDE 4.5 now, but on the desktop there's a weird border that encompasses about 70% of my desktop. It's a border made out of shadow. How do I remove it? | 20:08 |
| James147 | robbit10: can you take a screen shot of it? | 20:09 |
| robbit10 | James147: Okay, but what's the tool in KDE4 for taking screenshots? | 20:10 |
| James147 | ksnapshot (it is launched by the peintscreen key) | 20:10 |
| slow-motion | hi | 20:15 |
| robbit10 | James147: screenshot: http://yfrog.com/m9snapshot1op | 20:15 |
| robbit10 | James147: I mean, http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/8692/snapshot1o.png | 20:15 |
| James147 | robbit10: hmm | 20:16 |
| zapper | hi | 20:16 |
| zapper | i cant access the touchpad options on the control panel | 20:17 |
| James147 | robbit10: not sure what is causing that :S ... i take it its only on the desktop? | 20:17 |
| zapper | 2 days ago i could | 20:17 |
| robbit10 | James147: Yep. | 20:17 |
| zapper | it stopped working sudenly | 20:17 |
| sergio__ | come faccio a collegarmi a un tuo canale? | 20:19 |
| James147 | robbit10: I would guess there is a problem in updating your plasma settings... you could try renaming ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-appletsrc (or plasma-desktoprc... or any file that starts with plasma there although i think its most likly the first one) this will reset plasma back to its default settings (and all the widgets). If you want you can create a new user first to test it | 20:20 |
| Pici | !it | sergio__ | 20:20 |
| ubottu | sergio__: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette) | 20:20 |
| robbit10 | James147: Ok. Logging out and in, now | 20:21 |
| robbit10 | James147: That worked. Thanks :) | 20:22 |
| James147 | robbit10: :) sometimes kde settings get chewed up on an upgrade... although it dosnt happen much any more :) | 20:23 |
| robbit10 | James147: What is the shortcut for switching between workspaces? | 20:24 |
| James147 | robbit10: crtl+Fx (x being 1-11) | 20:24 |
| robbit10 | James147: thanks :) | 20:24 |
| Makuseru | Hi, im having some problems, I've got no sound over hdmi. Video works fine, volume is set where it should be on the tv im outputting to, i have vlc set for hdmi output, but i get no sound. When i run the "test" in multimedia for the hdmi output device i hear nothing. How can i get audio over hdmi working? | 20:40 |
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| === ivar is now known as Guest85275 | ||
| benbloom | Is it inappropriate to ask for help printing from my Lucid Kubuntu box to my Windows 7 machine's printer? | 21:10 |
| basy | php | 21:23 |
| Erick661 | Kubuntu (KDE 4.5) licid don't mount my iphone but gnome does it. Is there any way to mount my iphone KDE (3GS)? | 21:28 |
| BluesKaj | !mount | 21:29 |
| ubottu | Partitioning programs: !GParted or !QtParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter | 21:29 |
| BluesKaj | !devices | 21:30 |
| Kolia | Erick661: what if you plug the iphone before starting the computer, and then launch Amarok? | 21:32 |
| Erick661 | ok. I will try that | 21:33 |
| NSsmiles | i still can't get videos to play on facebook | 22:27 |
| NSsmiles | with kubuntu | 22:27 |
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| NSsmiles | if you buy a linux disk will it have everything you need like windows?? | 22:28 |
| guest | disk | 22:29 |
| NSsmiles | yes disk | 22:29 |
| guest | disk are not OS based.. | 22:29 |
| NSsmiles | what are they | 22:29 |
| guest | u can format disk as you want | 22:29 |
| NSsmiles | i'm having problem after problem with it | 22:30 |
| guest | linux disk means..link already install on that disk | 22:30 |
| guest | like what | 22:30 |
| NSsmiles | torrents slow video wont play on facebook | 22:30 |
| guest | which torrent client u r using.. | 22:31 |
| NSsmiles | i had trouble getting music to play and video but got that fixed | 22:31 |
| guest | for videos just install VLC | 22:31 |
| guest | it comes with the packages which need to view online videos too | 22:31 |
| NSsmiles | it's ktorrent | 22:32 |
| guest | try Auze | 22:32 |
| guest | sorry Vuze | 22:32 |
| guest | u have firefox? | 22:33 |
| guest | for browsing.. | 22:33 |
| guest | or google crome | 22:33 |
| NSsmiles | no | 22:34 |
| James147 | NSsmiles: see this for the slow torrents: http://ktorrent.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1224 | 22:35 |
| NSsmiles | brb phone | 22:35 |
| guest | ok | 22:35 |
| NSsmiles | i cant seem to get other programs when i search nothing comes up | 22:39 |
| NSsmiles | firefox shows installer and when i try to install it says it's already installed but i can't find it | 22:39 |
| guest | where u from | 22:39 |
| guest | oopes | 22:39 |
| James147 | NSsmiles: you need to update the package lists (click the refresh button on the updates tab in kpackagekit) | 22:40 |
| guest | do it then.. | 22:40 |
| guest | I recommand u to start using Ubuntu... | 22:40 |
| James147 | guest: why?... | 22:41 |
| guest | its best linux based os | 22:41 |
| James147 | guest: then why are you here? | 22:41 |
| larg | hola | 22:41 |
| guest | lol | 22:41 |
| larg | escriban es espa;ol | 22:41 |
| larg | vichos | 22:41 |
| James147 | !es | larg | 22:41 |
| ubottu | larg: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter. | 22:41 |
| guest | what it written in spainsh | 22:42 |
| guest | 22:44 | |
| NSsmiles | ok i got vuze | 22:45 |
| NSsmiles | so what will fix the prob with videos on facebook? | 22:45 |
| James147 | NSsmiles: no, since its a torrent application | 22:46 |
| James147 | sorry miss read | 22:46 |
| James147 | NSsmiles: what does facebook use for videos, flash? or raw files? | 22:46 |
| NSsmiles | flash i think | 22:47 |
| James147 | try running this: "sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude purge flashplugin-nonfree flashplugin-installer && sudo aptitude install flashplugin-installer" | 22:49 |
| NSsmiles | didn't work | 22:52 |
| James147 | NSsmiles: make sure you close all your browsers after it has finished | 22:53 |
| NSsmiles | ok | 22:53 |
| NSsmiles | the run window closed when i search it | 22:54 |
| NSsmiles | nothing is happening in the torrent prog | 22:58 |
| NSsmiles | when i search | 22:58 |
| James147 | what torrent prog? | 22:59 |
| NSsmiles | the one you told me about vuze | 23:00 |
| James147 | I didnt tell you that.... never used it before so I dont know about it | 23:00 |
| James147 | I would just use ktorrent... and configure it properly | 23:01 |
| NSsmiles | how do i configure it | 23:02 |
| NSsmiles | must have been guest that told me about vuze | 23:03 |
| James147 | NSsmiles: see this: http://ktorrent.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1224 | 23:03 |
| fmoc | high | 23:05 |
| fmoc | ..hi# | 23:05 |
| James147 | NSsmiles: or better yet: http://torrentfreak.com/utorrent-developer-shares-bittorrent-speed-tips-080805/ explains things beter :) | 23:06 |
| NSsmiles | the settings seem to be rite | 23:17 |
| James147 | NSsmiles: you might want to try asking in #ktorrent or searching google... there are many reason for slow torrents | 23:20 |
| `DT` | is it possible to burn a live disk from your current instalation using KDE3.5? | 23:20 |
| James147 | `DT`: it should be possible to burn a live cd form kde 3.5... | 23:22 |
| `DT` | do you know how? | 23:22 |
| James147 | I would use k3b | 23:22 |
| James147 | `DT`: (or do you mean 'of' your corrent installation? | 23:23 |
| `DT` | of my current installation | 23:23 |
| James147 | !livecd | 23:23 |
| ubottu | The Ubuntu Desktop CD is a "LiveCD" which can be run without altering existing files on your harddrive. Especially useful for testing your hardware's compatibility, it also includes an install option. | 23:23 |
| James147 | :( | 23:24 |
| `DT` | not what i'm looking for | 23:24 |
| James147 | !customlivecd | 23:24 |
| ubottu | Creating custom Live CDs is explained on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization | 23:24 |
| James147 | was trying to get that :) | 23:24 |
| James147 | (there is a link on there to creating one from scratch if you havnt already found it) | 23:26 |
| `DT` | thx | 23:28 |
| leonardo | ciao | 23:34 |
| `DT` | ok, i am confused on the | 23:34 |
| `DT` | "the disk image" | 23:34 |
| `DT` | part https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomizationFromScratch | 23:34 |
| `DT` | stupid enter key -_- | 23:34 |
| leonardo | d | 23:34 |
| `DT` | how do i find the files it's telling me to copy? | 23:35 |
| leonardo | movie | 23:35 |
| `DT` | ? | 23:36 |
| leonardo | sorry | 23:36 |
| leonardo | qualcuno parla la mio lingua | 23:37 |
| James147 | `DT`: I think thats explaing what things are rather then how to do it... | 23:37 |
| `DT` | k | 23:38 |
| leonardo | u undertand nothing, i speak only italian mannnn | 23:38 |
| James147 | `DT`: What I would do is quickly read over the whole page before attempting it so you get an idea of whats to follow | 23:38 |
| James147 | !it | leonardo | 23:39 |
| ubottu | leonardo: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette) | 23:39 |
| leonardo | grazie amico mio | 23:39 |
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| NSsmiles | i tried and i cannot find out how to get the torrent ktorrent to work | 23:50 |
| NSsmiles | what is DHT | 23:52 |
| brian__ | Hey guys | 23:57 |
| brian__ | So, since there are only 2 versions of Kubuntu, desktop or netbook | 23:57 |
| brian__ | andI ordered a 64 bit laptop | 23:57 |
| brian__ | that has a legit sized screen | 23:57 |
| brian__ | (17.3") | 23:57 |
| brian__ | I should use the 64 bit desktop editions | 23:57 |
| brian__ | edition* | 23:57 |
| maco | sure | 23:58 |
| maco | desktop & netbook are going to be a single install in 10.10 btw :) | 23:58 |
| brian__ | That's good | 23:58 |
| brian__ | I think any and all advances Linux distros make towards being easier to use/install is good | 23:58 |
| brian__ | are good* | 23:58 |
| brian__ | Fail at grammar | 23:58 |
| brian__ | I've gotta burna new 64 bit disc cause I just ordered a new 64 bit laptop | 23:59 |
| brian__ | actually, I have to burn two | 23:59 |
| brian__ | Because my friend just got a new 64 bit desktop | 23:59 |
| brian__ | and he is gonna try Linux :D | 23:59 |
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