[01:48] <MTecknology> I was just thinking - would there be any issues in using the launchpad logo in a website theme of mine? I want to use it for an openid login
[01:56] <lifeless> thats more a question for #launchpad-dev and the answer is 'some issues'
[03:18] <kermiac> hi, is there any way to configure a mailing list to accept emails from people who are not registered on launchpad? Currently if someone who has not associated their email account with a LP account tries to send an email to our mailing list, the email does not even appear in the moderation queue
[04:43] <kermiac> hi, is there any way to configure a mailing list to accept emails from people who are not registered on launchpad? Currently if someone who has not associated their email account with a LP account tries to send an email to our mailing list, the email does not even appear in the moderation queue
[04:44] <persia> kermiac, You'd probably do better to file a question against launchpad (answers.launchpad.net/launchpad) than ask repeatedly here.
[04:45] <persia> Folks who know don't seem to be around, and it might be quite a while before they get to backscroll (and even some normal backscroll readers skip weekend backscroll within the LP support team)
[04:45] <kermiac> good idea, thanks persia
[05:04] <lifeless> I'm pretty sure they get a bounce message
[05:04] <lifeless> and the answer is [currently?] no.
[05:05] <kermiac> thanks lifeless
[09:44] <lvh> Hi
[09:45] <lvh> I didn't have an internet connection on my new laptop yesterday and I did a bunch of commits
[09:45] <lvh> today I uploaded all of them to lp, forgetting that I screwed up my bzr whoami
[09:45] <lvh> so lp sort-of-kind-of knows who I am (... I had to register my ssh key, and I'm pushing to stuff under ~lvh)
[09:45] <lvh> But it doesn't link to my profile and the email address is bogus (lvh@lagavulin instead of lvh@laurensvh.be)
[12:09] <thopiekar> hi
[12:09] <thopiekar> I'm waiting around 23hours for a branch import.. see https://code.edge.launchpad.net/enlightenment
[12:15] <jelmer> thopiekar: approved
[12:52] <thopiekar> jelmer: thanks!
[12:52] <thopiekar> jelmer: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/54622879/e17-users-enlightenment-eina-deb-svn.log
[12:53] <jelmer> thopiekar: it should retry
[13:18] <hrw> hi
[13:19] <hrw> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/54624641/8njzxrlg9rh5TZOxPCvmtjdC4I2.txt - is such trackback normal (so my package is wrong) or not (so it is launchpad problem)?
[13:21] <wgrant> hrw: Which build are you looking at?
[13:23] <hrw> https://edge.launchpad.net/~hrw/+archive/arm-cross-compiler/+build/1940050 one
[13:26] <wgrant> hrw: Your package is buggy.
[13:26] <hrw> ok
[13:26] <wgrant> You are clearly doing some very odd mangling.
[13:26] <hrw> so now I need to find out how to 'fix' it
[13:27] <wgrant> Basically, it's producing a binutils binary which expects to be built from a binutils source.
[13:27] <wgrant> A binutils source of that version, in particular.
[13:28] <wgrant> Whereas your source package is neither named binutils nor does it have that version.
[13:28] <hrw> my package is a bit complicated one
[13:29] <hrw> it builds cross-binutils, cross-gcc, cross-eglibc, cross-linux-headers using dpkg-buildpackage on their *-source binary packages.
[13:29] <hrw> so it looks like I will need to hack resulting packages to have them other source listed
[13:30] <wgrant> Why are you doing that?
[13:30] <wgrant> Why not have them as separate sources?
[13:30] <hrw> I am bootstrapping cross compiler
[13:31] <hrw> I need to build binutils, linux-headers, gcc 1, eglibc 1, gcc 2, eglibc 2. Then package results and ship. results are used to build final cross-gcc
[13:36] <wgrant> hrw: You can't build them separately?
[13:39] <hrw> cant
[13:39] <hrw> but even if I would split steps then problem will be the same
[14:08] <jelmer> thopiekar, looks like it succeeded now
[14:08] <thopiekar> jelmer: thanks again ;)
[15:33] <Mez> Hmm, I cant seem to link a branch to a bug :(
[15:35] <jelmer> Mez: The web page should have a link for doing so; you can also use "--fixes lp:XXXXXX " to bzr commit
[15:36] <Mez> jelmer: does that work on a push too ?
[15:36] <Mez> jelmer: yeah - I was doing that, though it wasn't coming back as done.
[15:36] <Mez> But apparently it was done.
[15:37] <Mez> I think it may just be a usability thing - it wasn't apparent (as the description was long) that it'd been linked.
[15:56] <ali1234> https://launchpad.net/~a-j-buxton/+karma - how did i get those 10 points for "bazaar branches" - have have never used bazaar that i can remember. is it a bug?
[16:10] <jelmer> ali1234, did you ever contribute to a git repository that is mirrored by launchpad perhaps?
[16:10] <jelmer> ali1234, your lp homepage shows you've contributed to linux?
[16:10] <ali1234> i have some commits in the kernel
[16:10] <jelmer> that would explain it
[16:11] <ali1234> ok, thanks :)
[16:48] <G> don't know if it's just me or not, but have the builders frozen up?
[16:49] <G> got two ppa builds going, and the logs have been stuck for ~5mins+ in a place where I wouldn't expect, and some other builds aren't appearing to be updating the logs etc
[17:05] <G> looks like they've come right for me now
[17:22] <tripps> hello. How do I find bugs that I've reported on and/or indicated also affected me?
[17:25] <geser> tripps: http://launchpad.net/people/+me/+reportedbugs for the first part of your question
[17:28] <MTecknology> Is there a known bug where bug heat doesn't show up on the bug summary page?
[17:41] <deryck[lunch]> MTecknology, what bug summary page?  the top-level bugs page for a project or package?
[17:53] <tripps> geser, thanks! now for the second part? :)
[18:25] <MTecknology> deryck[lunch]: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-drupal
[18:47] <deryck> MTecknology, hey.  Yeah, it's a by-design kind of decision, and I think there is a bug requesting the table show heat as well.
[18:48] <deryck> MTecknology, if not, please feel free to file a new bug stating you'd like to see heat there.
[18:49] <MTecknology> deryck: ok- thanks
[19:15] <SpamapS> https://api.launchpad.net/beta/bugs/?assignee=clint-fewbar
[19:15] <SpamapS> 11 seconds. :(
[19:17] <lifeless> SpamapS: hi
[19:17] <lifeless>  /beta/ tsk tsk, /1.0/
[19:17] <lifeless> they can take different code paths
[19:17] <SpamapS> lifeless: Oh, I'm following this https://help.launchpad.net/API/Hacking
[19:18] <SpamapS> lifeless: 11 seconds on 1.0 too. :-/
[19:18] <lifeless> yeah
[19:18] <lifeless> so, https://devpad.canonical.com/~stub/ppr/lpnet/daily_2010-08-25_2010-08-26/timeout-candidates.html
[19:18] <SpamapS> some query iteration going on there?
[19:20] <lifeless> just looking in https://devpad.canonical.com/~stub/ppr/lpnet/daily_2010-08-25_2010-08-26/combined.html to get a feeling
[19:28] <lifeless> SpamapS: so, it may be 'Person:+bugs'
[19:29] <lifeless> oh no, its the global
[19:29]  * lifeless digs again
[19:29] <lifeless> (sorry had a short ELOCAL in the middle)
[19:31] <lifeless> let me see if leonardr/deryck know the pageid fo rthis
[19:31] <lifeless> -> #launchpad-dev
[19:47] <zyga> hi
[19:47] <zyga> when I do bzr push I get "server sent unexpected response"
[19:48] <zyga> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/485969/
[19:48] <zyga> it seems the other side branch is locked
[19:48] <zyga> is there any way I can break the lock?
[19:49] <beuno> zyga, yes, bzr break-lock URL
[19:50] <zyga> beuno, I just tried that, it didn't help (I used the remote URL branch)
[19:51] <beuno> zyga, what was the output of break-lock?
[19:51] <beuno> also. do you have write access to that branch?
[19:51] <zyga> there is no output
[19:51] <zyga> beuno, yes, that is my branch, I push there all the time
[19:52] <beuno> zyga, so "bzr break-lock lp:~zkrynicki/launch-control/stable.pure-server-side-models" and pushing again doesn't fix it?
[19:52] <zyga> beuno, that's correct
[19:52] <zyga> beuno, I'm on 2.2.0 on lucid
[19:52]  * beuno taps on abentley's shoulder
[19:52]  * beuno also sees lifeless in the back
[19:53]  * zyga loves the good customer service :-D
[20:01] <beuno> rockstar, maybe you're around?
[20:01] <rockstar> beuno, hi.
[20:01] <beuno> sounds like zyga's branch is stuck
[20:01] <beuno> hiya rockstar!
[20:01]  * rockstar reads backlog
[20:03] <abentley> beuno, I'm around, it's just not obvious what's going on.
[20:03] <rockstar> zyga, hm.  When you bzr break-lock, what happens?
[20:03] <rockstar> abentley, hi.
[20:04] <abentley> beuno, I think it's a defective lockdir structure, because there should be a file in that directory, and there isn't one.
[20:04] <beuno> abentley, aha, I've seen that before, had to get a l-o-s-a to nudge it
[20:05] <abentley> rockstar, hi.
[20:06] <abentley> beuno, no, I'm wrong about what a correct lockdir looks like, and it looks correct.
[20:14] <abentley> zyga, it appears your branch is stacked on lp:~arm-infrastructure/launch-control/trunk.  It appears that branch does not exist.
[20:18] <abentley_>  zyga, it appears your branch is stacked on lp:~arm-infrastructure/launch-control/trunk.  It appears that branch does not exist.
[20:22] <abentley> zyga, ping
[20:30] <zyga> re
[20:30] <zyga> abentley, pong
[20:30] <zyga> abentley, hmm, how can it not exist? /me checks
[20:31] <abentley> zyga, I get "bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~arm-infrastructure/launch-control/trunk/" when I try to branch bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~zkrynicki/launch-control/stable.pure-server-side-models/
[20:31] <zyga> !
[20:31] <zyga> it's gone
[20:31]  * zyga has no idea what's going on
[20:31] <zyga> abentley, trunk was the main branch of the project
[20:32] <zyga> abentley, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~linaro-infrastructure/launch-control/trunk/files
[20:32] <zyga> abentley, it's not gone according to loggerhead
[20:32] <zyga> hmm
[20:32] <abentley> According to Launchpad, the team ~arm-infrastructure doesn't exist.
[20:32] <zyga> I sense a project got renamed and a million souls cried...
[20:33]  * zyga pings kiko
[20:33] <zyga> kiko, ^^
[20:33] <zyga> kiko, did we rename arm-infrastructure to linaro-infrastructure just now?
[20:33] <abentley> zyga, I can re-stack your branch on lp:~linaro-infrastructure/launch-control/trunk.  Shall I?
[20:34] <zyga> abentley, please
[20:34] <abentley> zyga, done.
[20:35] <kiko> zyga, yes, we did -- talk to jamiebennett
[20:36] <zyga> kiko, thanks
[20:37]  * zyga invites jamiebennett
[20:38] <kiko> zyga, it's done though
[20:38] <zyga> kiko, I know, but we need to ensure that bzr keeps working, right/
[20:38] <kiko> zyga, yep :)
[20:39] <zyga> JamieBennett, thanks for joining
[20:39] <JamieBennett> zyga: hey
[20:39] <zyga> JamieBennett, I just tried to push to one of my branches and it caused this: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/485969/
[20:39] <zyga> JamieBennett, apparently the branch was stacked on another branch that got renamed as a part of the team rename
[20:40] <JamieBennett> zyga: so your branch was somehow linked to the team name?
[20:40] <zyga> JamieBennett, I just want to ensure the operation is safe and it was an accident _or_ that we need to fix remaining branches (abentley fixed my branch manually)
[20:40] <zyga> JamieBennett, yes, it was owned by the team
[20:40] <JamieBennett> zyga: ah
[20:40] <zyga> JamieBennett, the branch in question is/was http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~linaro-infrastructure/launch-control/trunk/files
[20:41] <kiko> zyga, JamieBennett: we need to fix up other branches too, right
[20:41] <JamieBennett> kiko: did the rename, I'm not sure what other branches are owned by teams but I'll take a look
[20:41] <zyga> JamieBennett, now the issue is you need to fix not the branches that were owned by the team, but branches that _referred_ to them
[20:41] <zyga> JamieBennett, that's more challenging unless launchpad knows this relation and can enumerate all stacked branches
[20:42] <JamieBennett> zyga: umm, how do we do that?
[20:42] <zyga> JamieBennett, I have no idea, guys any ideas?
[20:42] <JamieBennett> zyga: maybe do it on a case-by-case basis when people complain
[20:42] <zyga> abentley, lifeless, ^^ ?
[20:42] <JamieBennett> zyga: although I don't think that many branches are about atm
[20:42] <zyga> (how do we fix stacked branches that got their parent yanked by team rename)
[20:42] <JamieBennett> maybe plars' branches?
[20:43] <zyga> JamieBennett, while I agree I think that a bug is in order - unless you hacked the rename launchpad code hosting should _not_ break like that
[20:43] <zyga> it should either reject or cascade the rename
[20:43] <JamieBennett> zyga: agreed
[20:44] <zyga> JamieBennett, I would say that any merge proposals are affected
[20:49] <abentley> JamieBennett, yes, Launchpad knows about the relationship.  I thought it was displayed on the web page, but maybe it only shows the stacked_on branch, not the inverse relationship.
[20:53] <abentley> JamieBennett, the bug is 377519
[20:53] <JamieBennett> abentley: OK
[21:33] <bsaibes> any idea when Launchpad staging will be back up. it still getting code update since the morning?
[21:36] <goundy> Any idea when launchpad will provide wiki or documentation support for projects ?
[21:53] <jetienne> q. is there something like oauth or openid with launchpad... or another ubuntu services?
[22:03] <lifeless> yes, openid
[22:04] <lifeless> and oauth for API's
[22:04] <lifeless> bsaibes: we had a problem with the update, its rerunning now, and doing a db upgrade too, so it may be a qhile
[22:06] <goundy> oh lifeless ! do you have an idea when launchpad will provide wiki or documentation support for projects ?
[22:07] <goundy> :)
[22:11] <lifeless> goundy: neither are on the canonical team roadmap at the moment. thumper is working on a wiki implementation that he'd like to put into LP to support wikis, which would be awesome.
[22:11] <lifeless> goundy: the bug for that is on launchpad-foundations somewhere.
[22:11] <goundy> lifeless, I'm subscribed to that bug, and since there were no activity there for a long time I'm asking here :p
[22:11] <goundy> lifeless, thumper ? he's the one who started wikkid right ?
[22:12] <lifeless> yes
[22:12] <drew212> I get a timeout error when i search for packages on launchpad in Ubuntu: more specifically, when i search for the firefox package in ubuntu, is there a quick fix for this/is it a known problem?
[22:12] <lifeless> drew212: what url are you searching on?
[22:13] <goundy> good
[22:13] <goundy> thank you lifeless
[22:13] <drew212> lifeless: i'm not sure what that means so ill give you the URL =P: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+search?text=firefox
[22:15] <lifeless> drew212: btw, all known timeout issues: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-project/+bugs?field.tag=timeout
[22:15] <drew212> lifeless: thanks =)
[22:15] <lifeless> your issue looks like: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/584913
[22:16] <drew212> lifeless: i'm not sure what the bug description means for that bug...
[22:19] <thumper> morning
[22:19] <thumper> goundy, lifeless: morning
[22:19] <goundy> oh thumper hi didn't notice you was here actually so I'm sorry for the highlight :)
[22:19] <thumper> np
[22:19] <thumper> just starting for the day
[22:19] <goundy> :)
[22:19] <lifeless> drew212: it means that searching for packages is timing out
[22:20] <goundy> thumper, is there an online demo of what's been already done on wikkid btw ?
[22:20] <lifeless> drew212: i suggest clicking on affects-me-too
[22:20] <thumper> goundy: not yet, it is on my todo list
[22:20] <thumper> I'm wanting to get a sample up using openid to login
[22:20] <goundy> oh ok that's great news
[22:20] <goundy> Oh yeah
[22:21] <goundy> thumper, you did great by starting up this project, it will fill a big leak in LP ;)
[22:21] <thumper> I think so too
[22:21] <thumper> I just need to get some more time on it
[22:21]  * thumper hopes quietly for 20% time
[22:23] <goundy> thumper, if I was a python guru I'd have participated, it's still interesting for a developer :)
[22:23] <lifeless> thumper: I'm totally with you; jml seems to have some concersns.
[22:23] <thumper> lifeless: concerns with 20% time?
[22:24] <thumper> lifeless: now I'm almost-god, we could try an experiment :)
[22:25] <lifeless> thumper: and he's away too!
[22:26] <lifeless> thumper: yeah, something along the lines of it being easy-to-lose - for folk to just keep doing the do
[22:26] <lifeless> thumper: separately too, we need to really get some good, nay great, runs on the board vis a vis performance and deliverables
[22:49] <exarkun> Why can't I see any loom data when I check out nosmart+bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~exarkun/+junk/modules ?
[22:54] <lifeless> exarkun: you either have an old loom, or it was pushed with an old loom
[22:54] <lifeless> loom was recently (2 months or so) fixed up to improve this
[22:55] <exarkun> So how do I get a, uh, new loom?
[22:57] <exarkun> Maybe when you say "loom" you're talking about the version of the loom plugin, not the data in the branch
[22:57] <lifeless> yes
[22:57] <lifeless> I was, sorry.
[22:58] <lifeless> I suspect your branch, which is a loom, was either pushed by old code which used a hook that bzr's core no longer triggers, or you are branching it using old code which uses a hook that bzr's core no longer triggers
[22:58] <exarkun> Will I be able to just push from the original branch with a new version of the loom plugin to fix it?
[22:58] <lifeless> I expect so
[22:59] <lifeless> all the cases of this I saw when I fixed it up were like that - not corrupt or anything, just incomplete.
[23:06] <exarkun> No dice
[23:07] <exarkun> bzr 2.2.0 on both sides
[23:07] <exarkun> loom 2.1.0 on both sides
[23:14] <goundy> hi back.
[23:14] <goundy> when I try to view my branch content at http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~andevelopers/androldem/mainline/files
[23:14] <goundy> I get "Internal Server Error".
[23:15] <goundy> New bug or something ?
[23:16] <thumper> goundy: just a mildly sucky branch browser
[23:16] <goundy> thumper, lol gotcha thanks :)
[23:22] <marianom> hi everyone. I'm trying to moderate a message to a LP mailing-list (ubuntu-ar). Since yesterday it's returning an OOPS error. I guess it's already reported so any idea when is gonna be fixed?
[23:45] <thumper> marianom: is there a bug for it?