| BUGabundo | nite | 00:18 |
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| mininessie | how do i use patch | 00:20 |
| penguin42 | mininessie: cd into the directory you are going to patch and then patch -p0 < thepatchfile where the 0 might need changing to strip off bits of path | 00:22 |
| mininessie | penguin42, well bash: patch: No such file or directory | 00:24 |
| penguin42 | mininessie: Well you need to install patch just like any other program; however if you don't realise that then I guess you aren't familiar with building code and debugging stuff so go back a step and what are you trying to do? | 00:25 |
| mininessie | penguin42, i installed it | 00:25 |
| mininessie | penguin42, should i move the patch file to the directory first | 00:26 |
| penguin42 | mininessie: You shouldn't need to, just modify the path as appropriate | 00:26 |
| mininessie | penguin42, than why does it not work | 00:27 |
| penguin42 | type which patch | 00:27 |
| mininessie | /usr/bin/patch | 00:27 |
| penguin42 | ok, so what exactly are you typing when it gave you the no such file or directory ? | 00:28 |
| mininessie | todd@todd:~/hybrid_wl$ patch -p0 < patch | 00:29 |
| penguin42 | and where is the file called patch ? | 00:29 |
| mininessie | penguin42, patch came with the instructions on how to patch broadcom sta | 00:29 |
| penguin42 | and where is the file called patch ? | 00:30 |
| mininessie | tmp | 00:31 |
| mininessie | its in tmp | 00:31 |
| penguin42 | ok, so patch -p0 < /tmp/patch | 00:31 |
| mininessie | bash: /tmp/patch: No such file or directory | 00:31 |
| penguin42 | you said the file was in /tmp ? | 00:32 |
| mininessie | penguin42, the zip file it came in was in tmp | 00:32 |
| penguin42 | mininessie: patch doesn't know anything about zip files it was in or anything like that | 00:33 |
| penguin42 | mininessie: it needs to know where the patch file is | 00:33 |
| mininessie | penguin42, so i should take the patch file out of there | 00:33 |
| penguin42 | mininessie: patch just wants a text file | 00:33 |
| mininessie | penguin42, so yes | 00:33 |
| mininessie | patching file src/include/linuxver.h | 00:34 |
| mininessie | so did i do it right | 00:35 |
| yofel | does it say succeeded or failed? | 00:36 |
| mininessie | neither | 00:36 |
| yofel | hm, if it finished it should be fine I guess | 00:37 |
| mininessie | yofel, i won't know until 10.10 get done its about done downloading gotta install hope nothing happens in the install process | 00:38 |
| yofel | good luck, the kubuntu installer failed me 2 days ago, hope it doesn't happen in gnome | 00:39 |
| mininessie | yofel, yep | 00:40 |
| yofel | well, the installer failed at the end and the system seems to work fine, but the installer just vanishing isn't very good ^^ | 00:41 |
| penguin42 | yofel: Mind you, as far as I can tell the standard lucid installer normally fails at the end with a stream of cdrom errors | 00:52 |
| * penguin42 has had that on at least 3 or 4 machines | 00:52 | |
| yofel | mine was killed by oom-killer thanks to >100 instances of plugininstall.py | 00:53 |
| FFForever | What is the best tool for music/management? | 01:36 |
| bjsnider | FFForever, whichever one of the thousands available that tickles your funny bone | 02:15 |
| bjsnider | none of them are perfect | 02:15 |
| bjsnider | there's banshee, listen, rhythmbox, exaile, amarok and about a thousand more | 02:16 |
| mickster04 | does 10.10 really report sizes (files drives etc) in decimal? | 02:34 |
| lucidfox | After a recent Maverick update, too many right clicks in a row are generated | 02:55 |
| lucidfox | any ideas? | 02:55 |
| lucidfox | when I right click, the first item of the context menu is then selected | 02:56 |
| Jordan_U | lucidfox: Can you reproduce it with another mouse? It may be the debouncing that's broken (i.e. your hardware is actually sending two clicks, but software shoudld be working around that). | 02:58 |
| lucidfox | Jordan_U> it worked fine until very recently | 02:58 |
| alex_mayorga | hello all, stuck at a kernel panic similar to the one in Bug #615914 tips? | 03:15 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 615914 in linux (Ubuntu) "Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/615914 | 03:15 |
| alex_mayorga | tried a live USB but seems like it doesn't like my video card :( | 03:18 |
| alex_mayorga | on recovery I get udevtrigger 409 terminated with status 1 | 03:23 |
| alex_mayorga | is it borked beyond recover? | 03:24 |
| Dink | do you run windows on there also ? | 03:25 |
| Dink | guess you could try to point root= in your grub line or repair grub/mbr see if that helps | 03:26 |
| === Bridge| is now known as Bridge|A | ||
| alex_mayorga | Dink, no win32 here | 03:31 |
| alex_mayorga | my laptop was full ubuntu by now :( | 03:31 |
| alex_mayorga | Dink: got a link to a how-to? | 03:32 |
| Dink | alex_mayorga, first try editing grub with root=/dev/blah, blah being root partition. If that don't work try repairing/rebuilding grub. There are many tutorials. You will need a live cd, chroot etc etc | 03:34 |
| alex_mayorga | Dink: guess first I'll need a live CD that does live on my laptop | 03:34 |
| Dink | This might not be the correct fix but it would be my first attempt to try to solve the issue. Or even try a previous kernel. | 03:34 |
| alex_mayorga | is nvidia broken on liveCD of maverick | 03:35 |
| Dink | no clue | 03:35 |
| Dink | I know X and nvidia haven't been playing nice recently | 03:35 |
| Dink | Hold shift I think it is now when it boots, hit e for edit and try root=/dev/sda1 or whatever then try to boot. | 03:36 |
| Dink | Again I am no expert. Just what I would try to do. | 03:38 |
| alex_mayorga | the start of my maverick jurney certainly started bumpy :( | 03:38 |
| Dink | Well it is alpha ;) | 03:38 |
| alex_mayorga | my other problems seems like some form of Bug #433943 | 03:40 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 433943 in udev (Ubuntu) "kernel boot broken: init: udevtrigger mainprocess (1283) terminated with status 1" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/433943 | 03:40 |
| alex_mayorga | Dink: so replace UUID for /dev/sd? | 03:41 |
| Dink | That would be my first attempt yeah. | 03:41 |
| Dink | I could be completely off in the solution. | 03:42 |
| alex_mayorga | no amd64 liveCDs?? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/ | 03:43 |
| Dink | This a fresh install or upgrade ? | 03:44 |
| Dink | I don't think there are smd64 daily | 03:45 |
| Dink | amd* | 03:45 |
| alex_mayorga | I tried to upgrade form a fully updated 10.04 | 03:45 |
| Dink | A new kernel just came out recently | 03:46 |
| Dink | linux-image-2.6.35-19 | 03:46 |
| Dink | I haven't rebooted yet to try it ;) | 03:46 |
| Dink | You got me scared now. LOL | 03:46 |
| alex_mayorga | Dink: sorry, didn't mean to :) | 03:47 |
| Dink | no luck on the root= ? | 03:47 |
| alex_mayorga | there's no sd nor hd under /dev | 03:48 |
| Dink | huh | 03:48 |
| === echidnaman is now known as JontheEchidna | ||
| alex_mayorga | it's really weird | 03:49 |
| Dink | Did you edit through the grub menu right when you boot ? | 03:49 |
| Dink | Not sure what you are doing. | 03:50 |
| alex_mayorga | Dink: yes, I'm tryin to use TAB there to autocomplete | 03:51 |
| Dink | There is no autocomplete there | 03:51 |
| Dink | you have to type it in manually | 03:51 |
| alex_mayorga | Dink: thanks on all the help and patience :D | 03:53 |
| Dink | I am actually about to head to bed soon | 03:53 |
| alex_mayorga | tried an older kernel from the list, boots of sorts, but the mouse is non responsive and the icons in gdm show a red X | 03:53 |
| Dink | Ahh you have nvidia huh. Yeah sorry man I am clueless there. Try the link in topic or forum. | 03:54 |
| alex_mayorga | I guess I'll try to rescue my data with a lucid liveCD and forget about maverick for now | 03:54 |
| Dink | Yeah probably best especially if you using nvidia | 03:55 |
| alex_mayorga | !topic | 03:55 |
| ubottu | Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic | 03:55 |
| Dink | Im off. Good luck !! | 03:56 |
| alex_mayorga | Dink: bye and thanks | 03:58 |
| mininessie | i upgraded from 10.04 to ubuntu 10.10 and haven't rebooted yet should i reboot and have it fail if it does or not and stay on as i know it work | 04:06 |
| alex_mayorga | mininessie: video card? | 04:18 |
| alex_mayorga | I for one got bitten badly by the meerkat so I'd say stick to what works | 04:18 |
| alex_mayorga | but maybe it's all user error and my own fault | 04:19 |
| alex_mayorga | anyhow, sleepy time here | 04:19 |
| alex_mayorga | mininessie: good luck | 04:19 |
| mininessie | i can't update 10.10 | 04:44 |
| mininessie | or at least refresh and update update manager | 04:45 |
| mininessie | how do i know if i am actually search for updates with 10.10 | 04:46 |
| mininessie | i need some help | 04:49 |
| bbordwell | mininessie, what do you need help with? | 04:52 |
| mininessie | bbordwell, todd@todd:~$ sudo aptitude upgrade | 04:53 |
| mininessie | No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed. | 04:53 |
| mininessie | 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. | 04:53 |
| mininessie | Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used. | 04:53 |
| mininessie | bbordwell, and how do i know if it is actually search repos or whatever it search to update | 04:53 |
| bbordwell | mininessie, have you updated your sources yet? 'sudo apt-get update' | 04:53 |
| mininessie | bbordwell, yes | 04:53 |
| bbordwell | well when you run apt-get update that is when it searches the repos for updates, so if it is downloading files when you run update then it is searching | 04:54 |
| mininessie | bbordwell, how do i know if i have repos that it is searching | 04:56 |
| bbordwell | mininessie, when you run apt-get update it will print out all of the sources it is checking, like this: Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com lucid/universe Sources | 04:57 |
| bbordwell | Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com lucid/universe Packages | 04:57 |
| mininessie | bbordwell, well when i update using update manager gui it shows like downloading 1b | 04:58 |
| bbordwell | mininessie, well if you have updated recently it does not download anything new it just registers a hit, try again in a few hours and if it is still 1b then something is wrong | 05:01 |
| mininessie | why is 10.10 download so slow | 05:18 |
| thehizz | hey anyone know how to refresh the cd driver? i somehow have an unresponsive cd writer right now.. | 05:26 |
| mininessie | um i'm having a problem Failed to download repository information | 05:27 |
| mininessie | Check your Internet connection. when running the update manager gui | 05:27 |
| Volkodav | dkms: running auto installation service for kernel 2.6.36-020636rc2-generic | 05:31 |
| Volkodav | * nvidia-current (256.44)... | 05:31 |
| Volkodav | [fail] - anybody built nvidia against this kernel ? | 05:32 |
| mininessie | Volkodav, no god why don't you just run arch | 05:35 |
| Volkodav | because of regression with .35 on btrfs | 05:36 |
| mininessie | Volkodav, at least .35 works for i am running 10.10 on kernel .32 | 05:37 |
| Volkodav | what fs ? | 05:37 |
| mininessie | idk | 05:38 |
| Volkodav | ? | 05:38 |
| mininessie | ? | 05:38 |
| Volkodav | I asked what file system do you run on your .32 ? | 05:38 |
| DanaG | I keep getting null-pointer dereference on btrfs. | 05:38 |
| mininessie | Volkodav, ext4 | 05:39 |
| Volkodav | that's why you do not care/not affected | 05:39 |
| mininessie | Volkodav, who me | 05:40 |
| Volkodav | yes | 05:40 |
| mininessie | i am confused | 05:40 |
| thehizz | anyone know the command to refresh the cd/cd driver? | 05:40 |
| Volkodav | I said I do not run arch because I want .36 kernel because there is regression on btrfs on .35 kernel | 05:41 |
| mininessie | Volkodav, okay whatever | 05:41 |
| Volkodav | whatever is clever | 05:41 |
| thehizz | @tremolux boston, eh? | 05:48 |
| thehizz | bump - anyone know the commandline command to refresh the cd drive? | 05:48 |
| === _LibertyZero is now known as LibertyZero | ||
| S4ry | Hello Maverick :) | 06:25 |
| S4ry | Okay , i tried to install maverick from a usb flash .. that didn't work , then burned the iso to a DVD-R .. i noticed no GUI with the Live-CD | 06:26 |
| S4ry | Am i missing something ! | 06:26 |
| S4ry | Maverick alpha 3 of course | 06:27 |
| Andre_Gondim | always my cpu is heating with flash player is it normal? | 06:47 |
| jpds | Andre_Gondim: Flash uses a lot of CPU; yes. | 06:53 |
| S4ry | jpds, how can i install maverick alpha 3 m in 'The right way .. | 06:55 |
| jpds | S4ry: Download the inso from http://ftp.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/linux/ubuntu-cdimage/releases/maverick/alpha-3/ and burn it to a device medium? | 06:58 |
| jpds | S4ry: If you want a GUI on install, then you probably want maverick-desktop-i386.iso. | 06:59 |
| S4ry | Yeah , i tried that with maverick-desktop-i386.iso .. still the GUI is missing | 07:00 |
| jpds | Hmm, odd. | 07:00 |
| S4ry | i even burned it to a usb flash .. didn't even boot | 07:00 |
| S4ry | i used startup disk creator .. | 07:01 |
| S4ry | Lemme check it again | 07:01 |
| S4ry | thanks jpds | 07:01 |
| jpds | No worries. | 07:02 |
| voidmage | !info nvidia-current maverick | 07:04 |
| ubottu | nvidia-current (source: nvidia-graphics-drivers): NVIDIA binary Xorg driver, kernel module and VDPAU library. In component restricted, is optional. Version 256.44-0ubuntu1 (maverick), package size 23694 kB, installed size 70788 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 lpia) | 07:04 |
| voidmage | !info xorg-server maverick | 07:05 |
| ubottu | Package xorg-server does not exist in maverick | 07:05 |
| voidmage | !info xserver-xorg maverick | 07:05 |
| ubottu | xserver-xorg (source: xorg): the X.Org X server. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.5+6ubuntu3 (maverick), package size 19 kB, installed size 180 kB | 07:05 |
| S4ry | Again , didn't boot from the usb flash | 07:10 |
| S4ry | very odd , i 've always boot ubuntu from the flash or the DVD | 07:10 |
| S4ry | I installed the iso torrent .. if that count for something ! | 07:11 |
| avi_ | when Beta 1 comes out, will the UI be (almost) identical to the GM? | 07:15 |
| shcherbak | 08:57 | |
| Drooling_Sheep | hi, I've been using maverick for a while now and it occasionally crashes to the busybox shell...up until now I've just rebooted and it's been fine, but I've rebooted maybe a dozen times and nothing's changed. I think this is the relevant portion of dmesg http://pastebin.com/9YrzXrMx | 09:42 |
| Raydiation | hi any known issues with the live cd? | 10:50 |
| Raydiation | e.g. that it doesnt boot? | 10:50 |
| Raydiation | and which cd should i use to install? | 10:50 |
| Raydiation | alternate or desktop? | 10:52 |
| jussi | o/ | 10:53 |
| Sargun | Heya | 10:53 |
| jussi | Araneidae: Ive 10.10 at home, its not too badly broken for me as of last night, but maybe someone broke it since | 10:53 |
| Sargun | How unsafe is it to upgrade to 10.10? | 10:54 |
| jussi | Sargun: if you have a production system, dont. | 10:54 |
| jussi | Sargun: most things work, but may break at any time. | 10:54 |
| Sargun | jussi, Isn't that true of most things? | 10:54 |
| jussi | hehe | 10:55 |
| * Raydiation has a production system and wants to install alpha3 | 10:55 | |
| Raydiation | i wont update til alpha4 | 10:55 |
| * Sargun wants BTRfs | 10:55 | |
| Sargun | and TRIM | 10:56 |
| Sargun | I'm getting an SSD on tuesday, and I might install alpha3, but have /boot and / separated (Ext4 for boot), and btrfs for / | 10:56 |
| Sargun | with TRIM | 10:56 |
| === bilalakhtar_ is now known as bilalakhtar | ||
| Sargun | From what I understand, it's fairly safe... | 10:57 |
| Raydiation | Sargun: dont use btrfs | 10:58 |
| Sargun | Raydiation, why not? | 10:58 |
| Raydiation | ive heard the opposite from a known linux magazine | 10:58 |
| Sargun | heard the opposite of? | 10:58 |
| Raydiation | lots of people complaining that they cant mount btrfs after some time | 10:58 |
| Raydiation | you have to be conservative with the filesystem | 10:59 |
| Sargun | whoa | 10:59 |
| Raydiation | just wait until it gets stable, then wait another 6 months | 10:59 |
| Sargun | Raydiation, ugh, I hate waiting | 11:00 |
| Raydiation | if youve already got an ssd, the performance boost of btrfs wont be as great as the transition form hd to ssd | 11:00 |
| Raydiation | got an ssd too | 11:00 |
| Raydiation | Sargun: i used ext4 when it was marked as stable -> i had to reinstall and lost my data in /home | 11:01 |
| Raydiation | so unless you can say: data loss is no problem for me | 11:01 |
| Raydiation | dont try anything else than ext4 and ext3 | 11:01 |
| Sargun | I don't want to nuke my SSD | 11:02 |
| Sargun | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147064 < Brand, spankin new. | 11:02 |
| Sargun | I've already been through 2 hdds | 11:02 |
| Raydiation | thats an expensive one | 11:03 |
| Sargun | ... | 11:03 |
| KE1HA | with brtfs, unless your using the systems for multi-thousand hit requests, to massive database query's, the average user will not see any significant improvement. | 11:03 |
| Raydiation | Sargun: i got this one http://geizhals.at/a444063.html | 11:03 |
| KE1HA | And sure, Benchmarks, that really stress test a FS, will show some improvements, but reproducing those environments in real world situations is pretty tough to do. | 11:05 |
| Sargun | KE1HA, Okay, reasons I want BTRFS + SSD: I want my SSD to last longer, I want to be able to take snapshots without booting into a init 1 env, I don't want my drive to die from the vibrations I've been putting it through (that's more SSD than HDD). | 11:05 |
| Sargun | I might use LVM instead | 11:06 |
| Sargun | but the performance loss from LVM is insane | 11:06 |
| Sargun | Raydiation, that's a decent drive | 11:07 |
| KE1HA | Sargun: Me personally, I don't use LVM for any critical data storage, but certainly SSD speeds fer things like snapshot will be very snappy. | 11:08 |
| Sargun | We use LVM for a bunch of stuff at work | 11:10 |
| KE1HA | Sargun: Here's a pretty descent comparison of EXT4 & BTRFS from Phronix: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux2635_btrfs&num=1 | 11:11 |
| Araneidae | jussi, thanks. I'll wait though ;) | 11:12 |
| Sargun | KE1HA, I'd love if they compared LVM | 11:13 |
| KE1HA | Sargun: agreed. Don't get me wrong, I'm not ditching on LVM, it's has its uses, but fer critical data storage and service, it's tough to beat a HW RAID system, SCSI, SAN, SATA in whatever flavor. | 11:15 |
| SwedeMike | Sargun: performance loss from using LVM? why? I haven't seen that. | 11:15 |
| Sargun | SwedeMike, from #ix? | 11:16 |
| SwedeMike | Sargun: yes. | 11:16 |
| Sargun | SwedeMike, I don't know why there is a performance loss..I just know there is one | 11:16 |
| Sargun | KE1HA, yes, because I can put a hardware raid controller in my laptop...and use FibreChannel and SCSI | 11:17 |
| SwedeMike | Sargun: read or write? | 11:17 |
| Sargun | SwedeMike, combo of both simultaneously. | 11:17 |
| SwedeMike | KE1HA: as long as you avoid 3ware hw-raid, because write performance is abysmal. | 11:17 |
| Sargun | SwedeMike, We use mostly adaptec gear, it works. | 11:17 |
| SwedeMike | Sargun: on what underlying media? md or some SAN or something? | 11:18 |
| Sargun | RAID0 of a bunch of disks. | 11:18 |
| Sargun | I think 8. | 11:18 |
| Sargun | 7200 RPM, nothing fancy | 11:18 |
| Sargun | software MD | 11:18 |
| Sargun | we performance tested each disk | 11:18 |
| Sargun | we performance tested the md | 11:18 |
| Sargun | we performance tested the LVM volume | 11:19 |
| Sargun | The MD beat all of them, and LVM was hurt significantly | 11:19 |
| KE1HA | The last big array I worked with was InfiniBand, it was insanely fast. Only thing that beat it was out cluster guys and their raw-write persl scripts, no FS at all. Still dont understand all that yet. | 11:19 |
| KE1HA | our* | 11:20 |
| SwedeMike | Sargun: did you test lvm on top of md? | 11:20 |
| Sargun | SwedeMike, yeah, that's what it was. | 11:21 |
| Sargun | KE1HA, again, I can't have a SAN in my laptop. | 11:21 |
| Sargun | KE1HA, We have a distributed cluster store that goes over 2 GigE (2 * 1 GigE (802.3ad)), and it works for me :-P | 11:22 |
| Sargun | for most object fetches, we can saturate the 10GigE uplinks of the cluster. | 11:22 |
| Sargun | and considering it was dirt cheap (<$100k) to build, I'm happy. | 11:22 |
| KE1HA | Indeed, that level of HW is big bucks. You have 2x SSD bays in your laptop ? | 11:23 |
| Sargun | Yes, but the second one is used for a CD-ROM Drive. | 11:25 |
| Sargun | ATM | 11:25 |
| Sargun | KE1HA, RAID1 + LVM? | 11:25 |
| Sargun | I might do the install on my SSD with LVM | 11:26 |
| Sargun | because it's not super hard to convert from LVM to non-LVM, just timeconsuming | 11:26 |
| KE1HA | Well, I'll probably just do with the RAID if possible, unless you really need the expansion capability from LVM, I dont know, LVM is still a bit quirky fer me. | 11:26 |
| Sargun | KE1HA, when did you last lose data with lvm? | 11:27 |
| KE1HA | I just split a 4TB array this week on my second workstation, had to many issues with big binary files. | 11:27 |
| KE1HA | So, now it's 2x2 but, it's solid. | 11:28 |
| Sargun | how was it implemented | 11:28 |
| KE1HA | LSI card. | 11:28 |
| SwedeMike | Sargun: and you got less than half the performance? | 11:29 |
| Sargun | SwedeMike, at times | 11:29 |
| KE1HA | I just stuck 2x fer data and 2 fer a backup | 11:30 |
| * Sargun has only had a few really bad issues with raid - 3ware, and nvraid | 11:30 | |
| KE1HA | When's the Maverick AMD64 ISO's gonna roll out? I heard tomorrow, is that still on track | 11:32 |
| Cameron | where can I find the maverick daily x64 alternative iso ? | 11:35 |
| KE1HA | Oddly enough, NCommander jsut sent a note in the release channel about patching a bug that was preventing the AMD64's from building. | 11:35 |
| Cameron | its not in http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/ | 11:36 |
| Cameron | ok | 11:36 |
| KE1HA | The 64's have been down for the last 3 to 4 days or so. | 11:36 |
| Cameron | which is the release channel ? | 11:36 |
| KE1HA | ubuntu-release | 11:37 |
| Cameron | taa | 11:37 |
| KE1HA | B3 testing is due to kick off tomorrow, or the next day, so should be sorted by then I'd imaging. | 11:37 |
| KE1HA | imagine* | 11:37 |
| Cameron | I'd hope so :) | 11:37 |
| yofel | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/cd-build-logs/ubuntu/maverick/daily-20100830.log bwarfs at | 11:42 |
| yofel | /srv/cdimage.ubuntu.com/debian-cd/tools/boot/maverick/boot-amd64: line 113: mkfs.msdos: command not found | 11:42 |
| yofel | as do all other amd64 isos it seems | 11:42 |
| Raydiation | maverick is a current snapshot of debian sid right? | 13:04 |
| gnomefreak | not really. we get packages from sid but even that is done with for this release | 13:07 |
| penguin42 | ok, that took some figuring out - this laptop (which is always plugged in) I came back to find it hibernated | 13:19 |
| penguin42 | it had auto hibernated because I'd actually forgotten to switch it on at the wall | 13:20 |
| flupke_ | hello, I followed this guide to compile maverick kernel on lucid: http://blog.avirtualhome.com/2010/05/05/how-to-compile-a-ubuntu-lucid-kernel/ . but doing debian/rules editconfigs doesn't seem to save my changes | 13:46 |
| flupke_ | are there instructions for building the maverick kernel found on launchpad ? | 13:50 |
| Sargun | After 10.10, what version will there be? 11.04? | 13:50 |
| gnomefreak | flupke_: not likely | 13:51 |
| gnomefreak | Sargun: yes | 13:51 |
| gnomefreak | flupke_: you should find a later kernel than what you are using in the backports repo | 13:51 |
| gnomefreak | not sure however what version it is | 13:51 |
| flupke_ | gnomefreak, yes I already have 2.6.35 from the same PPA, but I need to compile it to enable vga_switcheroo | 13:53 |
| gnomefreak | flupke_: kernel compiling is not as nice to people as they expect. before compiling i suggest reading up on compiling kernels | 13:54 |
| gnomefreak | flupke_: we are not the place to ask about compiling apps. you may be best off trying #linux | 13:54 |
| flupke_ | gnomefreak, I know how to compile a kernel, that's the ubuntu way of compiling a kernel I'm asking about. | 13:55 |
| gnomefreak | flupke_: the difference being? | 13:55 |
| yofel | you mean packaged / make install ? | 13:56 |
| flupke_ | gnomefreak, you use debian/ folder scripts to do so | 13:56 |
| yofel | flupke_: you should be able to patch the kernel and run 'debuild' in the package directory to build it, but the kernel packaging is quite complicated so I can't guarantee it will work like that | 13:57 |
| flupke_ | yofel, indeed, you don't use debuild to build it, but the debian/rules script | 13:58 |
| gnomefreak | add the option as a patch or try addding it to /rules | 13:58 |
| yofel | flupke_: debuild uses the debian/rules script, or rather it runs dpkg-buildpackage which uses debian/rules | 13:58 |
| gnomefreak | there is a kpackage IIRC that will build it for you | 13:59 |
| flupke_ | I made it create the .deb files, but the resulting kernel seems to have the same options as the default one | 13:59 |
| penguin42 | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile is a good page for the mechanics of building kernel debs | 13:59 |
| * gnomefreak perfers patching for something like this | 13:59 | |
| flupke_ | and when I look at debian.maverick/config/i386/config.flavour.myflavour, I don't see the flags I added with debian/rules editconfigs (although it did mentioned this config file) | 14:00 |
| flupke_ | penguin42, that's the guide found on this page I followed (the link for maverick kernel on lucid) | 14:01 |
| penguin42 | flupke_: Did you change the config in debian/config/whatever or in debian.master/config/whatever ? | 14:02 |
| flupke_ | penguin42, in debian.maverick/ | 14:02 |
| penguin42 | flupke_: Are you sure you mean debian.maverick not debian.master ? | 14:03 |
| flupke_ | penguin42, yes | 14:03 |
| penguin42 | flupke_: Odd, I only have the debian and debian.master - I suggest you try changing it in the debian.master | 14:03 |
| * penguin42 has only used those instructions for adding patches not changing config | 14:03 | |
| gnomefreak | please move this topic to another channel. we do not recommend compiling packages in here and definantly dont not support kernel compiling | 14:04 |
| penguin42 | flupke_: The #ubuntu-packaging or #ubuntu-kernel channels can be quite helpful for this type of stuff | 14:05 |
| flupke_ | gnomefreak, penguin42, ok, thanks for your help anyway | 14:05 |
| gnomefreak | i wouldnt use -kenrle or suggest it for support as it is not a support channel | 14:05 |
| gnomefreak | -kernel even | 14:06 |
| mortal | is the X issue resolved? | 14:07 |
| yofel | mortal: what card do you have? | 14:09 |
| gnomefreak | ati still has issues and so does nvidia | 14:11 |
| yofel | nvidia has a workaround implemented if you install it with jockey and will be properly fixed soon | 14:12 |
| gnomefreak | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers/+bug/616023 | 14:12 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 616023 in nvidia-graphics-drivers (Ubuntu Maverick) "nVidia card : X won't start since 1.9 update, no screens found" [High,Triaged] | 14:12 |
| gnomefreak | yofel: yeah i know but it doesnt work for everyone | 14:12 |
| mortal | yofel: intel | 14:13 |
| yofel | it doesn't work for people that don't use jockey and don't have the x-updates ppa enabled, if you're using either one it works | 14:13 |
| mortal | dg45fc | 14:13 |
| yofel | intel should work, my 945GME in my eeePC has rendering issues though with kwin compositing enabled | 14:14 |
| gnomefreak | intel has very little problems | 14:16 |
| * gnomefreak off | 14:16 | |
| mortal | good, now upgrading | 14:20 |
| mortal | I can live with occasional brokenness and I like to report bugs | 14:21 |
| mortal | and it is nice to see the distribution maturing | 14:21 |
| Raydiation | does anyone run with all updates? | 14:21 |
| Raydiation | since alpha3 | 14:21 |
| yofel | Raydiation: most of us do | 14:27 |
| Raydiation | yofel: with dist-upgrade too? any problems with nouveau? | 14:29 |
| yofel | Raydiation: I don't use nouveau, it had to many issues for me | 14:30 |
| mortal | intel is good | 14:30 |
| yofel | but the package installs fine | 14:30 |
| Raydiation1 | haha, x just crashed | 14:32 |
| Raydiation1 | so you recommend a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade? | 14:32 |
| yofel | well, not if you're upgrading from lucid, but if you're running maverick that's the default way to install updates from the command line | 14:33 |
| Jibadeeha | have just updated my ubuntu 10.10 installation and now the mouse pointer isn't visible, yet the touch pad is working - anyone else here got this problem? | 14:33 |
| Raydiation1 | im running maverick | 14:33 |
| yofel | Raydiation1: then either use update-manager or run 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' to make sure you have all updates installed | 14:34 |
| kroson | hi, are the packages still being updated for beta at the moment? | 14:59 |
| Raydiation1 | kroson: hm isnt alpha4 coming before beta? | 15:00 |
| kroson | Raydiation1: well, no | 15:01 |
| kroson | xD | 15:01 |
| Raydiation1 | will maverick ship ff 4.0? | 15:04 |
| penguin42 | doesn't look like, it's too late | 15:04 |
| kroson | Raydiation1: well youll be able to get it when its released easily | 15:05 |
| kroson | penguin42: do you know if they still update packages for the beta release? | 15:05 |
| Raydiation1 | didnt canonical say they will update it because of mozilla security policy | 15:05 |
| Raydiation1 | kroson: what do you mean with update? | 15:06 |
| Raydiation1 | only bugfixes iirc | 15:06 |
| penguin42 | Raydiation1: Oh, not sure - I guess it's possible; but I haven't followed that | 15:06 |
| kroson | Raydiation1: like ubiquity, for example | 15:06 |
| kroson | is the new theme already integrated with the dailys? | 15:06 |
| Raydiation1 | kroson: thats the installer right? | 15:06 |
| kroson | yes | 15:06 |
| Raydiation1 | i dont know, there will be updates for sure and the installer is normally something they work on for a lot longer | 15:07 |
| Raydiation1 | im quite sure there will be more changes | 15:07 |
| Raydiation1 | kroson: im just updating ill tell you | 15:07 |
| Raydiation1 | @theme | 15:08 |
| kroson | Raydiation1: ok :) | 15:08 |
| kroson | isnt there a way to use fglrx at the moment? | 15:08 |
| Raydiation1 | kroson: imho open source driver > fglrx | 15:08 |
| Raydiation1 | causes less problems | 15:09 |
| kroson | Raydiation1: do you have power management? | 15:09 |
| Raydiation1 | ill stick to nouveau too until the beta is released | 15:09 |
| Raydiation1 | kroson: for the gpu? | 15:09 |
| kroson | yes | 15:09 |
| Raydiation1 | hm, dunno but it works quite well in my laptop | 15:10 |
| Raydiation1 | i can reduce screen brightness too | 15:10 |
| kroson | Raydiation1: thats normal, i was thinking about the reduce of fan noise and heat... | 15:11 |
| Raydiation1 | kroson: not sure, but i dont have problems with that | 15:12 |
| kroson | ok, thank you :) | 15:13 |
| kroson | but you really dont know if theres a way to install fglrx? | 15:13 |
| Raydiation1 | if i were you i wouldnt do it | 15:13 |
| Raydiation1 | theyre upgrading the xserver and ati is slow on updating their drivers | 15:14 |
| Raydiation1 | plus i only had problems with fglrx | 15:14 |
| Raydiation1 | you can always try to install it manually | 15:14 |
| Raydiation1 | but i dont think it will work | 15:15 |
| gnomefreak | Raydiation: the update policy you are refering to doesnt apply to 3.6 -> * 3.6 will run its course. IIRC we decided not to ship 4.0 in Maverick but im waiting on an answer to make sure | 15:32 |
| gnomefreak | tb3.1 or ff4.0 will not make it and im waiting on what one it is | 15:32 |
| Raydiation | gnomefreak: ah k thx | 15:32 |
| gnomefreak | np | 15:33 |
| yofel | gnomefreak: thunderbird 3.1 is already in maverick | 15:38 |
| yofel | !info thunderbird | 15:38 |
| ubottu | thunderbird (source: thunderbird): mail/news client with RSS and integrated spam filter support. In component main, is optional. Version 3.1.2+nobinonly-0ubuntu1 (maverick), package size 10776 kB, installed size 29788 kB | 15:38 |
| gnomefreak | thank it is 4.0 that will not end up in Maverick | 15:38 |
| yofel | right, that's still beta | 15:38 |
| gnomefreak | s/thank/thanks than | 15:39 |
| gnomefreak | one of these days i have find a workaround for nvidia | 15:39 |
| yofel | Raydiation, kroson: the new update manager is already used in the daily images and will be used for beta too, and it's updated regularily till release | 15:40 |
| yofel | er... | 15:40 |
| yofel | s/update manager/installer/ | 15:40 |
| kroson | yofel: :) | 15:40 |
| kroson | and as for ubiquity will this one be used for beta? | 15:41 |
| yofel | !info ubiquity | 15:41 |
| ubottu | ubiquity (source: ubiquity): Ubuntu live CD installer. In component main, is optional. Version 2.3.9 (maverick), package size 3978 kB, installed size 14056 kB | 15:41 |
| yofel | that will be used for beta | 15:41 |
| kroson | yes, that one, which is the latest xD | 15:41 |
| kroson | yofel: so you think that the daily that is now available is very similar to the beta release? | 15:42 |
| yofel | kroson: yes, there are only bugfixes till beta now so the images shouldn't change much | 15:43 |
| kroson | yofel: but they have not been shipping 64-bit live dailys | 15:43 |
| kroson | whats happening? | 15:43 |
| yofel | here's what happened: | 15:44 |
| yofel | /srv/cdimage.ubuntu.com/debian-cd/tools/boot/maverick/boot-amd64: line 113: mkfs.msdos: command not found | 15:44 |
| yofel | it's being worked on | 15:44 |
| yofel | (from the iso build log) | 15:44 |
| kroson | yofel: ok, thank you :) | 15:45 |
| kroson | yofel: the default theme is already the beta one too? | 15:48 |
| yofel | I think yes, but as I use KDE someone else might now more | 15:50 |
| kroson | ok, tks | 15:50 |
| === dart is now known as killer99 | ||
| killer99 | I get this error when I add any ppa "the repository may no longer be available or could not be contacted because of network problems" | 15:54 |
| Raydiation | language installation doesnt work yet | 16:02 |
| Zil_ | hi | 16:04 |
| Zil_ | i'm willing to test nouveau 3d drivers, how to install them ? | 16:04 |
| yofel | you need the default nouveau drivers and one additional package, now I need to remember which one that was... | 16:06 |
| yofel | libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental | 16:07 |
| yofel | install that and you should have 3D in nouveau | 16:07 |
| Zil_ | nouveau-firmware also ? | 16:07 |
| yofel | not sure, it worked without on my NVS 3100M | 16:08 |
| Zil_ | ubuntu netbook is unusable without those drivers | 16:09 |
| yofel | ION? don't know much about those cards | 16:10 |
| Zil_ | no ti's a desktop pc with gts250 | 16:11 |
| Zil_ | but i'm loving netbook UI | 16:12 |
| yofel | heh | 16:12 |
| ChrisBuchholz | Hey guys. How can i install the maverick radiance and ambiance themes? I can only find packages that installs ambiance | 16:32 |
| kroson | ChrisBuchholz: have you updated maverick? | 16:33 |
| kroson | the latest ubuntu-light package should bring them | 16:33 |
| ChrisBuchholz | kroson: oh, sorry. I'm on lucid. I just wish to try the themes | 16:33 |
| kroson | i know there was a ppa but dont remember wich one was | 16:35 |
| ChrisBuchholz | kroson: yeah, thats the problem :P | 16:36 |
| kroson | https://launchpad.net/~murrine-daily/+archive/ppa | 16:37 |
| ChrisBuchholz | kroson: i believe i have tried that earlier, and now again with the same result: I dont see the radiance theme, only ambiance and ambiance-dark | 16:39 |
| mortal | now running maverick on dg45fc, intel gfx, everything is verry good | 16:41 |
| mortal | for some reason the hd seeks are more audible | 16:41 |
| kulight | Evolution opens on the contact list instead of the mail page. can any one help? | 16:45 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| kulight | Evolution opens on the contact list instead of the mail page. can any one help? | 17:10 |
| === luis__lopez is now known as luis_lopez | ||
| * S4ry just had to update the kernel on maverick alpha 3 | 18:08 | |
| dandi8 | Hi, can someone help me? I've installed Ubuntu maverick on my laptop and it's very slow - idles on 20-30% and every time I do anything CPU usage goes up to 100% | 18:15 |
| S4ry | Mmm | 18:15 |
| S4ry | dandi8, i just installed Maverick myself .. updated | 18:16 |
| S4ry | and everything is just fine | 18:16 |
| dandi8 | well, I insalled it because 10.04 gave me a black screen after splash | 18:16 |
| dandi8 | and it may be because of my graphics card - Intel 82852 | 18:16 |
| S4ry | Thats odd ! | 18:17 |
| dandi8 | I really don't know what to do, I'm kinda new to Linux, although a long time Windows user | 18:17 |
| dandi8 | I've tried pretty much everything I could | 18:17 |
| dandi8 | even created a xorg.conf which I'm not sure even works | 18:18 |
| S4ry | Mmm , i don't think it's related to the graphic card , but you may wana check if its Active | 18:18 |
| dandi8 | I'm on a Toshiba Satelite A10 btw. | 18:18 |
| S4ry | Nice | 18:18 |
| dandi8 | how to do it? | 18:18 |
| S4ry | Try this | 18:18 |
| S4ry | Go to system | 18:18 |
| S4ry | Admin | 18:19 |
| S4ry | Additional | 18:19 |
| S4ry | Thats for Drives | 18:19 |
| dandi8 | additional drivers? | 18:19 |
| dandi8 | nothing there | 18:19 |
| S4ry | Yep | 18:19 |
| S4ry | hum ! | 18:19 |
| dandi8 | but I've seen some intel drivers presumably installed in synaptic | 18:20 |
| dandi8 | I'm also able to do some basic word processing like running XChat or surfing the web so that's why I think it may be the GFX card | 18:21 |
| dandi8 | although SysMon says CPU spikes to 100% | 18:21 |
| S4ry | Mmm | 18:21 |
| dandi8 | oh and games usually work, although very slow or with no FPS at all | 18:21 |
| dandi8 | I'm able to play Tux Racer, although it's choppy, the Tux mario clone flickers, etc. | 18:22 |
| dandi8 | and other 3D games are pretty much still images once I launch them XD | 18:22 |
| S4ry | :) | 18:22 |
| S4ry | dandi8, Lets take it to #ubuntu | 18:22 |
| dandi8 | and on WinXP I was able to play games with good FPS without problems | 18:22 |
| dandi8 | they just told me to go away from there XD | 18:22 |
| S4ry | Nah ! they did | 18:23 |
| dandi8 | they said that since it's maverick, I should go to ubuntu+1 | 18:23 |
| S4ry | Okay. thats fine | 18:23 |
| S4ry | Lets take it step by step | 18:23 |
| dandi8 | I just hope it can be done... I could really use this laptop in school | 18:24 |
| S4ry | Have ya updated maverick | 18:24 |
| dandi8 | yeah | 18:24 |
| S4ry | And upgraded | 18:24 |
| S4ry | Nice | 18:24 |
| dandi8 | if by updated you mean ran the updater | 18:24 |
| dandi8 | upgraded? not sure | 18:24 |
| S4ry | Yep | 18:24 |
| dandi8 | I just installed it yesterday | 18:25 |
| dandi8 | with a newly downloaded DVD | 18:25 |
| S4ry | Okay , upgrade with the follow command | 18:25 |
| dandi8 | well, CD, actually, which, to my amazement, worked on a dvd | 18:25 |
| dandi8 | follow command? | 18:25 |
| S4ry | sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade | 18:25 |
| S4ry | Yeah , i installed it from a CD too | 18:26 |
| dandi8 | ok, updating | 18:26 |
| S4ry | Nice | 18:27 |
| S4ry | BRB | 18:27 |
| dandi8 | also, funny thing - I've got no mouse cursor on the monitor after bootup until I suspend and restore | 18:27 |
| dandi8 | ok, it seems to have updated now | 18:29 |
| dandi8 | what do I do now? | 18:29 |
| S4ry | Back | 18:34 |
| S4ry | dandi8, nice | 18:34 |
| S4ry | you should reboot after that , just for the kernel | 18:35 |
| S4ry | Also | 18:35 |
| S4ry | Make sure to set the sources for maverick | 18:35 |
| penguin42 | if any of you are seeing really bad flickering and rendering artifacts on the open source radeon drivers, I've got a ppa with a fix in | 18:35 |
| S4ry | dandi8, System -Administration- Software sources .. on other software make sure o check mark the / ubuntu maverick partner | 18:38 |
| yofel | S4ry: just as a note, the recommended way to upgrade is 'update-manager -d' or 'do-release-upgrade -d' not dist-upgrade | 18:38 |
| dandi8 | I think i have all the sources checked | 18:38 |
| S4ry | close - reload | 18:38 |
| dandi8 | so I should reboot the system now? | 18:39 |
| S4ry | yofel, thats right .. dandi8 has already installed maverick | 18:39 |
| S4ry | dandi8, Yep | 18:39 |
| dandi8 | alright, and then come back here? | 18:39 |
| S4ry | Sure :) | 18:39 |
| dandi8 | be back in a sec then | 18:39 |
| S4ry | Tyt | 18:40 |
| yofel | S4ry: right, didn't read the whole backlog :/ just got the impression from what you were saying.. | 18:40 |
| S4ry | yofel, dandi8 , has an issue on maverick .. maybe related to his G card .. if you scroll up you may have a clue whats the issue is | 18:41 |
| S4ry | O' , thanks yofel .. | 18:42 |
| yofel | hm, there are no additional drivers for intel, but I remember hearing about the 8* card issues. maverick has a newer driver so it might help, but since xserver 1.9 is a bit buggy for me on my 945GME | 18:44 |
| dandi8 | and I'm back | 18:46 |
| S4ry | WB dandi8 | 18:50 |
| abhijjeet | how to add compiz asa startup item in the maverick | 19:02 |
| S4ry | abhijjeet, try Adding it to the Start up programs | 19:19 |
| abhijjeet | how to add in the startup programme what command to give in the command option | 19:22 |
| Andre_Gondim | abhijjeet, in terminal you can add in /etc/rc.local, if is it in X, you can add in System --> Preferences --> Statup... | 19:25 |
| Chipaca | I've got an intel video card, and am finding it works very poorly in maverick. What should I do? | 19:51 |
| S4ry | Chipaca, is i active on maverick | 19:53 |
| S4ry | it* | 19:54 |
| Chipaca | "works very poorly" means: with the default kernel, does not work at all. With some 2.6.36 (from kernel.ubuntu.com), it only works if I turn off the splash, and even then only in 16bps (looks like) | 19:54 |
| Chipaca | S4ry: i didn't understand the question :-/ | 19:54 |
| S4ry | Chipaca, You can check if the drive is active from System - Additional Drivers | 19:55 |
| penguin42 | Chipaca: Do you know which Intel card? (lspci | grep -i vga ) | 19:55 |
| Chipaca | penguin42: "Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)" | 19:56 |
| Chipaca | S4ry: i thought that was just for proprietary drivers | 19:57 |
| penguin42 | Chipaca: OK, something like an i3 or i5 processor? | 19:57 |
| Chipaca | penguin42: i7, yes | 19:57 |
| penguin42 | Chipaca: Hmm I thought those were supposed to work with the normal Intel drivers | 19:57 |
| penguin42 | Chipaca: Pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log and dmesg output ? | 19:58 |
| S4ry | Someone is also missing the right intel drive for his toshiba | 19:58 |
| S4ry | His CPU : Intel Celeron 2.5GHz | 19:59 |
| Chipaca | penguin42: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/485975/ | 20:00 |
| penguin42 | Chipaca: Well, its found the intel driver and looks mostly happy | 20:02 |
| Chipaca | penguin42: yeah, but the default maverick background looks aweful, moire'ed | 20:02 |
| Chipaca | penguin42: 16bpp-like (although xdpyinfo seems to say 24bpp) | 20:03 |
| penguin42 | ah, I'm not using the default background | 20:03 |
| Chipaca | dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/485977/ | 20:03 |
| penguin42 | Chipaca: How about if you just look at one of your own pictures? | 20:03 |
| Chipaca | penguin42: also, this is only with the splash off, and then only after switching to console and back; otherwise, blank screen | 20:04 |
| Chipaca | penguin42: why would I do that? I'm way too ugly | 20:04 |
| Chipaca | penguin42: :) | 20:04 |
| penguin42 | Chipaca: I meant ones you had taken of less ugly people of course | 20:04 |
| Chipaca | anything with a gradient looks banded | 20:06 |
| penguin42 | Chipaca: Well, there is one warning in the Xorg.0.log about not being able to allocate memory for fbcon, but I don't know how serious that is | 20:06 |
| penguin42 | Chipaca: The dmesg shows power or thermal limit errors/warnings - that could explain your performance problem | 20:06 |
| Chipaca | not seeing performance problems | 20:06 |
| Chipaca | not sure what those warnings are about :) | 20:07 |
| penguin42 | Chipaca: Oh ok, I thought you said stuff was slow; anyway, you shouldn't have to play around with all that mess of switching to console and back, so bug report it | 20:07 |
| penguin42 | Chipaca: You could try booting with nomodeset to see if it's related to KMS makes any difference | 20:07 |
| Chipaca | I've already filed 13 bugs against the intel driver today because apport prompted me to :) | 20:08 |
| Machtin | why do i have frequent freezes? i know it's alpha.. but twice a day or more, seriously? | 20:08 |
| Chipaca | penguin42: nomodeset won't work in maverick | 20:08 |
| Chipaca | penguin42: the X in maverick needs modeset | 20:08 |
| penguin42 | Chipaca: Really? Oh odd | 20:08 |
| penguin42 | Chipaca: OK, well I'm out of suggestions really - I'd go and figure out what those temperature warnings are about; if the cooling isn't happy then it could explain random crashes and the apport errors | 20:09 |
| dandi8 | I've installed Maverick on my laptop with an Intel 82852/855 gfx card and CPU usage spikes up to 100% every time I do anything at all, help? | 20:10 |
| penguin42 | Chipaca: Ah - you're running 2.6.36 ?! | 20:11 |
| penguin42 | Chipaca: There are some messages going past on the lkml in the last day or two about 2.6.36 hosing Intel displays - swit | 20:11 |
| Chipaca | penguin42: yes; 2.6.35 will not give me a console nor an X nor nothing | 20:12 |
| penguin42 | ch back to the normal maverick kernel | 20:12 |
| Chipaca | penguin42: normal maverick kernel turns my 1920x1080 notebook display into a black rectangle of nothingness | 20:12 |
| Chipaca | penguin42: so much waste makes me cry | 20:13 |
| penguin42 | Chipaca: Well you're on an Alpha - expect breakage! | 20:14 |
| Chipaca | it's a beta now! | 20:14 |
| Chipaca | :) | 20:14 |
| * penguin42 has to go | 20:14 | |
| Chipaca | penguin42: thanks | 20:14 |
| penguin42 | Chipaca: I'd report the bug on the standard Maverick kernel - if it's breaking on i3/i5/i7 then people certainly need to know and get it fixed | 20:14 |
| penguin42 | Chipaca: The good thing is there are lots of people with them, so I'm sure it'll get fixed quickly | 20:15 |
| Chipaca | I *hate* writing bug reports when I know nothing :( | 20:16 |
| * Chipaca sighs, and goes to laucnhpad | 20:16 | |
| === zniavre__ is now known as zniavre | ||
| Daekdroom | good lord. alarcarte is a let down | 20:30 |
| Dink | Got an open qusetion to all. Do most people here run the default swapiness=60 if not what do you run at ? | 20:35 |
| * patdk-wk just doesn't mount swap | 20:36 | |
| yofel | my notebook doesn't run with swap, my desktop has 60, and my netbook 0 as it has a SSD | 20:36 |
| === histo_ is now known as histo | ||
| Dink | Yeah I have playing around trying to find that sweet spot. | 20:38 |
| Dink | Got a netbook but not SSD | 20:38 |
| Dink | I have tried 60 and even 100 | 20:39 |
| yofel | meanings are usually: 0 - don't use swap unless you have to, 100 - swap things out as soon as reasonable so we have space for the disk cache | 20:40 |
| yofel | I don't know how the algorithm decides what to do in between those exactly | 20:41 |
| yoasif | i dont talk here much unless yofel is in the conversation but... you guys should check out a social news site im working on... http://quippd.com/ | 20:42 |
| yofel | XD | 20:42 |
| Dink | I have been debating not to use swap but haven't narrowed it down but mutter/nautilus/unity is eating a lot of memeory and I have to go into swap | 20:43 |
| dandi8 | I've installed Maverick on my laptop with an Intel 82852/855 gfx card and CPU usage spikes up to 100% every time I do anything at all, help? | 20:45 |
| yofel | dandi8: checked with top what process is using it? | 20:47 |
| Dink | When I hup mutter/nautilus I get back close to 1gb of ram | 20:48 |
| yofel | that sounds like a nice memory leak ^^ | 20:50 |
| Dink | Yeah I should investigate more on exactly what causes it | 20:50 |
| Dink | I recalled nautiulus have a memory leak isuse couple years ago | 20:51 |
| Dink | Ahh bug #60477 | 20:53 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 60477 in control-center (Ubuntu) "g-s-d crashes on startup under edgy (dup-of: 59217)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/60477 | 20:53 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 59217 in gstreamer0.10 (Ubuntu) "[Edgy] gnome-settings-daemon acting up" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/59217 | 20:53 |
| Dink | Ahh bug #604777 | 20:53 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 604777 in Unity "Unity causing massive memory leak when hovering over the quicklists" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/604777 | 20:53 |
| dandi8 | the problem is, no process is using it | 20:54 |
| dandi8 | it's 100% CPU usage out of thin air | 20:54 |
| dandi8 | System Monitor idles at 20-30% | 20:55 |
| dandi8 | and goes up to 50% | 20:55 |
| dandi8 | but in the performance window of said System Monitor | 20:55 |
| dandi8 | if I move any window at all | 20:55 |
| dandi8 | or do anything else | 20:55 |
| dandi8 | global CPU usage goes up to 100% | 20:55 |
| S4ry | dandi8, | 20:59 |
| feydr | having trouble powering off my laptop; it gets to the shutdown splash screen and then stops; I can flip through the virtual terms but am not able to log into any...alt+sysreq works but doesn't really give anything to me.. where should I start? | 21:09 |
| jca1981 | hi is there a way to downgrade from Maverik to Lucid? | 21:22 |
| IdleOne | jca1981: there is no way to downgrade but maybe we can fix what is wrong | 21:22 |
| IdleOne | any specific errors? | 21:22 |
| jca1981 | i upgraded to maverick by mistake on my server ad broke my install | 21:22 |
| IdleOne | jca1981: "broke my install" is a very broad statement. what is not working | 21:23 |
| jca1981 | now procps is broken and i cant boot the system | 21:23 |
| jca1981 | i get a " Unable to connect to Upstart: Failed to connect to socket /com/ubuntu/upstart: Connection refused" when i do dpkg --configure procps | 21:25 |
| yofel | dandi8: are you using compositing, can you try to turn that off? maybe change the theme to make sure it's not a rendering issue with the engine, if not, try to file a bug with 'ubuntu-bug xserver-xorg-video-intel' as I'm not sure what to do more | 21:25 |
| yofel | dandi8: maybe see if you can find something in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/ | 21:26 |
| jca1981 | IdleOne, any ideas how to fix it ? :) | 21:26 |
| IdleOne | jca1981: try sudo dpkg --confirgure -a | 21:27 |
| IdleOne | but honestly I have no idea. except for backing up and do a clean install | 21:28 |
| jfi | jca1981, there is some registered bugs with this error | 21:28 |
| jfi | jca1981, I have no idea how to fix, maybe try to take a look at launchpad | 21:28 |
| jca1981 | jfi, thanks | 21:28 |
| jfi | jca1981, for example this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upstart/+bug/430224 | 21:29 |
| jca1981 | IdleOne, "sudo dpkg --confirgure -a" gives same error | 21:29 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 430224 in upstart "init: support chroots" [Wishlist,Triaged] | 21:29 |
| jca1981 | jfi i found somthing interesting. i cant upgrade procps when chrooted. problem is i cant get my box started without install rescue cd | 21:33 |
| jca1981 | can anybody guide me througt a grub2 setup, i have tried to follow guides no the internet and run update-grub but it still only boots to grub console :( | 21:34 |
| IdleOne | jca1981: have you tried loging in to TTY and running sudo dpkg --confirgure -a ? | 21:35 |
| Daekdroom | Damn it. X keeps becoming unresponsive to mouse clicks. | 21:36 |
| jca1981 | IdleOne, how do i log into TTY? | 21:37 |
| IdleOne | !nox | 21:37 |
| ubottu | To start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode | 21:37 |
| jca1981 | tried running ""dpkg-divert --local --rename --add /sbin/initctl | 21:41 |
| jca1981 | ln -s /bin/true /sbin/initctl | 21:41 |
| jca1981 | and it looks like it is working , yaaaay | 21:41 |
| jca1981 | yes everything is upgraded now, but grub is not loading my system. is a update-grub enought? | 21:43 |
| IdleOne | should be | 21:44 |
| jca1981 | wow, you guys are the best | 21:45 |
| IdleOne | heh | 21:45 |
| IdleOne | we didn't do anything | 21:45 |
| jca1981 | where do i donate bear, hehe | 21:45 |
| IdleOne | !donate | 21:46 |
| ubottu | To donate to Ubuntu, you can !participate or go to http://www.ubuntu.com/donations | 21:46 |
| jca1981 | http://www.ubuntu.com/donations -> 404 | 21:47 |
| IdleOne | yeah I got that also, old link | 21:47 |
| IdleOne | jca1981: just keep testing and reporting any bugs you find to launchpad | 21:47 |
| jfi | there is also http://shop.canonical.com/ | 21:48 |
| jca1981 | wen i run update-grub if finds the kernel on the rescue cd not on my chrooted install? | 21:50 |
| IdleOne | http://www.ubuntu.com/community/get-involved/donate | 21:51 |
| asdf_baron | So in Maverick, my option for two-finger scrolling is greyed out. Changing the value manually in gconf-editor will disable edge scrolling but two-finger scrolling still won't work! | 22:12 |
| jca1981 | hey guys could you help me with getting my system run with grub on lvm system | 22:35 |
| jca1981 | IdleOne, can you help me with Grub2 setup, Please | 22:42 |
| IdleOne | !grub2 | 22:42 |
| ubottu | GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since Ubuntu 9.10. For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 | 22:42 |
| IdleOne | that link should have everything you need to know | 22:42 |
| jca1981 | IdleOne, have read lots of guides now, just cant get it to work, think its because i use LVm and my root device is named linux-root | 22:44 |
| jca1981 | IdleOne, get kernel panic every time | 22:44 |
| IdleOne | jca1981: wish I knew how to help | 22:44 |
| IdleOne | jca1981: explain the issue here and sooner or later someone should be able to help | 22:45 |
| jca1981 | IdleOne, you have already been a great help, i will try to ask others :) | 22:45 |
| Raydiation | will ubuntu ship python 2.7? | 22:47 |
| Daekdroom | Raydiation, it's not using it as default for now, and I don't know if it will, but it's avaiable | 22:49 |
| Raydiation | Daekdroom: in the repos? | 22:49 |
| Daekdroom | Raydiation, yeah | 22:49 |
| Daekdroom | Raydiation, python2.7 package | 22:49 |
| yofel | Daekdroom: it won't be the default, the test builds didn't go well so it was postponed for natty | 22:50 |
| yofel | !info python2.7 | 22:50 |
| ubottu | python2.7 (source: python2.7): An interactive high-level object-oriented language (version 2.7). In component main, is optional. Version 2.7-4ubuntu1 (maverick), package size 2508 kB, installed size 9620 kB | 22:50 |
| Daekdroom | yofel, I guess it doesn't have a choice to be conservative about it if it breaks the system, right? | 22:50 |
| yofel | not sure if it broke the system, but even building the packages with 2.7 didn't go well afaik | 22:51 |
| Raydiation | hm, any really big features in 2.7? | 22:51 |
| yofel | if you're out for new features use 3.1 :P | 22:52 |
| Daekdroom | !info python3.1 | 22:52 |
| ubottu | python3.1 (source: python3.1): An interactive high-level object-oriented language (version 3.1). In component main, is optional. Version 3.1.2+20100707-1ubuntu1 (maverick), package size 3521 kB, installed size 12312 kB | 22:52 |
| yofel | but no, I haven't kept track of python features for a while now :/ | 22:52 |
| Raydiation | i will use 3.1 when django starts using it :) | 22:52 |
| Raydiation | btw, is your xserver reacting a bit slow too? | 22:53 |
| Raydiation | i got the nvidia driver installed | 22:53 |
| Raydiation | no smooth animations though | 22:53 |
| Daekdroom | My xserver is not reacting well when I open nautilus with ubuntu one integration.. | 22:53 |
| Daekdroom | well, xserver is fine, but nautilus is painfully slow. | 22:53 |
| Raydiation | Daekdroom: do you run with compiz effects? | 22:54 |
| Daekdroom | No. | 22:54 |
| Raydiation | hm, brb | 22:54 |
| yofel | kwin compositing is fine here, not slower than usual, I had issues starting X after xserver 1.9 was uploaded but a reinstall of nvidia seems to have fixed that | 22:54 |
| Raydiation | ah ok, the xserver update which just came in fixed it :) | 22:56 |
| Raydiation | sound applet doesnt work too well | 22:57 |
| Raydiation | i cant change volume with scrolling | 22:57 |
| Raydiation | btw is there a way to get the old mixer applet back | 22:58 |
| Raydiation | i dont like this combination of the indicator applet | 22:58 |
| Raydiation | its causing my sound to lag when i change the volume | 22:58 |
| voidmage | !info nvidia-current maverick | 23:30 |
| ubottu | nvidia-current (source: nvidia-graphics-drivers): NVIDIA binary Xorg driver, kernel module and VDPAU library. In component restricted, is optional. Version 256.44-0ubuntu1 (maverick), package size 23694 kB, installed size 70788 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 lpia) | 23:30 |
| voidmage | weird that it wasn't working in a /msg | 23:30 |
| yofel | voidmage: works fine in a query here | 23:32 |
| voidmage | oh | 23:32 |
| voidmage | i left off the info | 23:32 |
| yofel | BUGabundo: hey :) | 23:32 |
| voidmage | any chance of it getting updated to 256.52 for maverick? | 23:32 |
| yofel | voidmage: being worked on, but as we're in beta freeze right now it'll take a few days | 23:33 |
| voidmage | awesome, 256.44 gives my graphics card the hard locks on lucid | 23:33 |
| yofel | voidmage: you can get it from the x-updates ppa in the meanwhile | 23:33 |
| BUGabundo | yofel: hey my friend | 23:34 |
| BUGabundo | what's up? | 23:34 |
| Machtin | any chance my frequent freezes will be gone for the final release? | 23:34 |
| yofel | BUGabundo: fighting with the kubuntu installer, it doesn't let me use the live session :( | 23:34 |
| Machtin | (of which i have no idea why and when they occur) | 23:35 |
| voidmage | Machtin: what graphics card do you have? | 23:35 |
| Machtin | nvidia gtx 260, iirc. | 23:35 |
| yofel | Machtin: that's pure luck then if they vanish, and is it a hard lock or can you still kill X with sysrq+k ? | 23:35 |
| Machtin | yep. | 23:36 |
| Machtin | yofel: can't. | 23:36 |
| Machtin | but the mouse still moves. | 23:36 |
| yofel | I am getting X freezes too sometimes with nvidia, but killing X works | 23:36 |
| yofel | Machtin: ok, then we have the same issue I think | 23:36 |
| Machtin | and music keeps playing. | 23:36 |
| yofel | try to kill x with sysrq+k (alt+print+k usually) next time it happens | 23:36 |
| Machtin | though i think just the one track that's playing | 23:37 |
| Machtin | yofel: i did.. never worked.. only thing that happens is that my mouse stops working totally. | 23:37 |
| yofel | odd, here X freezes too and mouse still works, but sysrq+k at least kills it | 23:37 |
| Raydiation | Machtin: realized the same thing today | 23:38 |
| Raydiation | Machtin: i got a 275gtx | 23:38 |
| voidmage | are you running the 256.44 drivers? | 23:38 |
| Machtin | but i think i have some x-relaunching problems anyway.. couple of hours ago i for some reason did try to restart kdm, just froze and i had to hard reset. | 23:38 |
| Raydiation | Machtin: there are updates | 23:38 |
| yofel | NVS 3100M here, my 250gts system is still running lucid | 23:38 |
| Raydiation | for x | 23:38 |
| voidmage | gt240 on lucid, 256.44 gave me x freezes, downgraded to 256.35, 256.52 supposedly fixes the freezing problem | 23:39 |
| Machtin | Raydiation: no new packages if i do a safe-upgrade | 23:39 |
| voidmage | yofel mentioned the x-updates ppa above, you could try that | 23:39 |
| Machtin | voidmage: no clue which version. | 23:39 |
| Machtin | well, should be out for beta release i guess | 23:39 |
| yofel | https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates/ | 23:39 |
| Machtin | i can wait that long i guess | 23:39 |
| Machtin | still wondering why my x-restart won't work. | 23:40 |
| yofel | Raydiation: the xserver-xorg ubuntu2 updates only fixed packaging issues, nothing concerning functionality | 23:40 |
| Raydiation | yofel: hm :( | 23:41 |
| Raydiation | k ty | 23:41 |
| Raydiation | i had that freeze with nouveau though | 23:41 |
| Raydiation | currently running nvidia, no freezes yet | 23:41 |
| Machtin | lol, not even sure which driver i installed. | 23:41 |
| yofel | only thing nouveau have me was a black screen after a few hours so I'm back on nvidia :/ | 23:42 |
| voidmage | Machtin: it should mention the driver version in xorg.log | 23:42 |
| Machtin | [ 42.349] (II) Module nouveau: vendor="X.Org Foundation" | 23:44 |
| Machtin | [ 42.349] compiled for 1.8.99.905, module version = 0.0.16 | 23:44 |
| Machtin | is that it? | 23:44 |
| voidmage | yeah that's it | 23:44 |
| Machtin | so, i'm using nouveau instead of nvidia. That's a good thing? | 23:45 |
| voidmage | hmm | 23:49 |
| voidmage | can you pastebin the output of /var/log/Xorg.0.log | 23:49 |
| voidmage | ? | 23:49 |
| Machtin | http://pastebin.com/geV8042f | 23:53 |
| voidmage | okay weird, i'm not sure why it's using nouveau | 23:54 |
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