| lontra | hi, if i want to get the new light-themes for maverick with the update radiance theme for lucid what's the best way to do this? add a deb-src for maverick, apt-get build-dep gtk2-engines-murrine light-themes, then debuild them? | 17:20 |
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| lontra | or do i need to rebuild something else? | 17:20 |
| janimo | Hello, does anyone know which application was used to create the syslinux boot splash used as the first image on the LiveCD ? | 19:53 |
| janimo | I'd like to replicate that look for a deirvative and being quite a beginner in graphic manipulation it would help to at least know that I am not trying to do it using the wron g tools (gimp in this case) | 19:54 |
| darkmatter | vish: and yet another gnome-component becomes a bloat bucket. meh. I think I'll just uninstall mah gui ans return to the good ol days of monochromatic awesome. that or go xfce *shrugs, disillusioned by the general design stupidity* | 20:08 |
| vish | :D | 20:09 |
| vish | darkmatter: btw, what was that question you had asked about the logout dialogues? | 20:11 |
| vish | <darkmatter> vish: question, since I'm not running uby quite yet. does ubuntu still use the ghey all-in-one session dialog or is it using the proper gnome-session dialogs now? (separate logout/switch and shutdown). I'm making a list of too-do items for when I reinstall | 20:11 |
| vish | hmm.. when did we have that^^ | 20:11 |
| vish | the all-in-one session is from gnome.. | 20:11 |
| darkmatter | vish: ahh. was just wondering how uby currently handles them? | 20:11 |
| vish | yeah , now logout , you get a prompt.. no all-in-one thingy ;) | 20:12 |
| vish | darkmatter: we have 7options-to-quit-session-from-menu thing now '_ | 20:13 |
| darkmatter | vish. it was in the good lol days (few years ago, last time I had used uby). it handlked the dialog ala e (one row of buttons for logout/switch, then a row of faties under it for various power options) | 20:13 |
| vish | yeah , that was default gnome behavior , that was dumped a few releases back. | 20:14 |
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| darkmatter | vish:vish, it was the default "sand gnome" behaviour :P, and ahh ahh ahh. I'll prolly have to hack the behaviour a bit then (teh missus has crappy target accuracy sometimes, vision issue) to many targets = fail. guess I'll trey to drop em all and turn logout/shutdown to use the new dialogs (ya know, the ones gnomers stole from libssui? ;P) | 20:17 |
| darkmatter | dun wanna see her getting pissed at yet another desktop xD | 20:18 |
| darkmatter | vish: not that I'm bitching or anything mind you (it's not like you're the one responsible :P), but for things like that it really is best to keep the # of options presented (be it within a dialog or within a menu, for whatever purpose) to a minimum | 20:30 |
| vish | nooooooo! more options , more kde! ;p | 20:31 |
| darkmatter | for the same general reason behind why a sidebar should have collapsible categories, because contrary to epic levels of gnomeyness, unnecessary scrolling and visual clutter are "labor intensive" :P | 20:32 |
| darkmatter | vish: nautilus new file conflict needs to die a painful death as well ;o | 20:35 |
| darkmatter | and it's not about options or a lack thereof, it's about sanely categorizing and grouping stuff so that you don't create information overload, which as we a;; know is one of the biggest fail points of current-generation software | 20:37 |
| darkmatter | shoving everything in the users face _at the same time_ | 20:38 |
| vish | i'm really not sure why every item needs to move around just because i'v attached a new device... | 20:44 |
| darkmatter | vish: things like that as well. which I why I told them, repeatedly, that devices should be near the bottom of the list, not the freaking to. frequently used items go at the top so that they're predictable targets | 20:54 |
| darkmatter | that's also why the sidebar should collapse. so that you can work within a specific target group without scrolling. we can argue for it as efficiency or consistency. both apply | 20:57 |
| darkmatter | I man. this is the no-brainer bits | 20:57 |
| darkmatter | mean* | 20:57 |
| darkmatter | vish: I'm loving the maverick themes. the particular shade of orange for selections is a bit hash imo, but overall they're quite calming | 21:01 |
| vish | yeah , the themes seem quite pleasant.. | 21:04 |
| vish | the color harsh at times though.. | 21:05 |
| * darkmatter prefers radiance because the orange is less obnoxious on a light background | 21:06 | |
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