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yofelanother very patient reporter - https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/62567600:03
ubot2Launchpad bug 625676 in apt (Ubuntu) "Infinite loop in dpkg: Hang at 'Unpacking' (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New]00:03
yofel*sigh*00:03
jpdsyofel: Nice.00:06
* penguin42 has some sympathy when you have a bug that's broken stuff for you and you're sitting there banging your head against the keyboard00:06
hggdhyofel: are you going to answer?00:18
* hggdh is curious00:18
yofelnot for now, I'm too tired to write anything that doesn't sound frustrated, maybe I'll remeber how to get debug info out of dpkg too until tomorrow00:19
* hggdh has not much sympathy for someone that forcefully does something (bad), and then complains it is broken00:19
kermiacvish:  Yay! Thanks mate :)00:41
hggdhah well. I answered the OP01:00
* devildante is bored... do you have any bugs you would want to get fixed?02:02
kermiacdevildante: there's literally thousands of bugs out there mate... ever played 'eeny meeny'? :P02:07
devildantekermiac: programmer = lazy = can't find bugs on his own :p02:07
persiadevildante, Any restrictions on that?  I'd be happy to see 531155 get some sorting02:08
kermiachaha02:08
devildantebug 53115502:08
ubot2Launchpad bug 531155 in gedit (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "gedit schemas is not registered during live session (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 23)" [Low,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/53115502:08
devildantehmm, working on an invalid bug must be cool :p02:08
devildanteoh, it's gconf!02:09
persia"invalid" comes from some history of uncertainty about where the bug belongs (casper/gedit/gconf/etc.)02:09
persiabug #102664 is another suggestion, if that one seems messy.02:11
ubot2Launchpad bug 102664 in liferea (Ubuntu) "liferea does not preserve open tabs across sessions (heat: 2)" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/10266402:11
devildantehmm, it seems the bug hasn't been updated since 2010-03-31, apart from a comment by pedro_ to ask if the issue is still present02:12
devildantebookmarking the first bug until someone responds, I guess :p02:12
persiaEasy enough to verify that it's still present, really.02:12
devildantepersia: don't have access to Live-CD, so I can't verify :(02:13
persiaHrm?  What sort of access don't you have?02:13
devildantepersia: I don't have a CD to burn the live-cd iso (I'm talking about bug 531155)02:14
ubot2Launchpad bug 531155 in gedit (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "gedit schemas is not registered during live session (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 39)" [Low,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/53115502:14
micahgdevildante: just use virtualbox02:14
persiaAnd/or usb-creator02:14
devildantemicahg, persia: okay... I'll run testdrive02:15
* persia has mostly tested that bug with kvm in the past, but got stuck02:15
devildantelooking in the second bug now02:15
persiadevildante, Good luck, and thanks for asking :)02:15
devildantepersia: you're welcome!02:15
* devildante will log-out02:18
drew212vish: I sent my Mentee's the email, I'm  just waiting on their reply =)02:19
devildantepersia: can gnome applications save state on exit/logout?02:23
persiaSome of them do, so I presume so.  I believe they need to do so when sent a signal to close, so it's more about application start/finish than login/logout02:34
stlsaintdrew212: ping03:03
drew212hey buddy whats up?03:03
stlsaintdrew212: nm, just read your email03:04
drew212Great! Let me know if you have any questions or if you want to start on something particular. I'm doing HW at the, so i wont be able to get too in depth but i can answer any questions holding you back from getting started triaging =)03:05
drew212S/HW at the/HW at the moment03:05
drew212stlsaint: is there any package you are particularly interested in?03:10
stlsaintdrew212: um, im really interested in servers03:11
stlsaintand desktop03:11
stlsaintand nvidia grapchis03:11
stlsaint:D03:11
drew212stlsaint: thats quite a list =)03:11
drew212stlsaint: anything holding you back from getting your feet wet?03:11
stlsaintdrew212: just wanted to get started with a mentor in best approach03:12
drew212stlsaint: well go ahead and pick one that you think's easy and i'll try to introduce you to the workflow03:12
trinikronodrew212: so you are mentor now , nice!03:13
stlsaintdrew212: hrm, i guess lets go with servers sice its my favorite03:14
drew212trinikrono: lol, yeah =D, vish kept bugging me so i said yes =P03:14
stlsaintdrew212: thats cause i was bugging vish ;)03:14
drew212stlsaint: definetly, pick something you're passionate about03:14
stlsaintdrew212: servers is at my top pick03:15
drew212do you know how to find bugs related to ubuntu server edition?03:16
stlsaintdrew212: no :(03:16
stlsaintdrew212: oh wait you mean via lp?03:17
drew212yea03:18
stlsaintoh yea gotcha03:18
drew212is there a particular package related to the server distribution you want to work on? it helps if you have a particular package in mind03:23
stlsaintdrew212: hrm, i would have to look again, i didnt too very much digging into it tbh03:24
drew212stlsaint: thats fine =)03:24
drew212stlsaint: just let me know when you've found a bug you want to work on.03:27
stlsaintdrew212: um how about openssh?03:35
drew212stlsaint: sure =), thats what i was looking at earlier. Do you have a bug picked out?03:36
stlsainthttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssh/+bug/21684703:36
ubot2Launchpad bug 216847 in openssh (Ubuntu) "sshd will not start at boot if ListenAddress is set, because network interface is not yet up (affects: 2) (heat: 31)" [Low,Confirmed]03:36
stlsaintdrew212: just grabed from list :D03:36
drew212first part of triaging for me is checking if I can reproduce the bug, I don't own a server, so you're going to have to do that for me =).03:38
drew212first part for triaging confirmed bugs*03:39
stlsaintdrew212: oh ok03:40
stlsaintdrew212: LOL, so i could potentialy lost ssh ability on my server :P03:40
stlsaints/lost/lose03:41
drew212i would suggest running server on a VM =)03:41
drew212dont use it on a production machine03:41
persiadrew212, You could just set up openssh-server on your desktop, and `ssh localhost`03:41
stlsaintdrew212: i run openvz on server, ill throw one together for bug :D03:41
drew212=)03:41
drew212persia: I'm actually not very familiar with server operations =P.03:42
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stlsaintpersia: noth something i would enjoy doing running openssh-client/server on lappy03:43
persiastlsaint, Why not?  Resource usage is extremely low.03:44
persiaI run it on most of my laptops, because sometimes I want to get to them from my desktop at home, and use the larger screen.03:45
stlsaintpersia: aye, makes sense for that03:46
persiaAnd if you manage to break openssh-server on your laptop, it's the least potential important place :)03:47
stlsaintdrew212: bug reproduced succesfully03:49
drew212ok, so the confirmed status is correct =)03:52
stlsaintdrew212: yep03:52
drew212does the bug report need to have anything added to make it easier to reproduce?03:52
stlsaintdrew212: nope03:52
persiaBased on comment #3, it may be worth investigating whether upstart yet has the ability to support this relationship.03:54
stlsaintpersia: yea i saw that03:54
persiaUntil that's present (or some other way around it is identified), the bug can't progress.03:54
drew212stlsaint: yeah: collin is the maintainer for openSSH =)03:55
lifeless*colin*03:56
lifelessone el03:56
drew212yes, colin =)03:57
drew212stlsaint: so that bug is 'triaged' as far as it can be for now03:57
stlsaintoooh ok03:58
stlsaintdrew212: welli must go for now but tomorrow i will look for a better one and bring it to you03:58
persiaIt would be "triaged" a couple years ago.  With the passage of time, I think it deserves some research into the current state of upstart before changing the status.03:59
drew212stlsaint: alright =), feel free to work on them yourself to a degree you're comfortable with, be sure to read the documentation i sent in the email =)03:59
stlsaintdrew212: will do04:01
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^arky^Is this bug properly triaged bug 62322111:29
ubot2Launchpad bug 623221 in espeak (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "hungarian language phoneme is full broken and unusable (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/62322111:29
^arky^Is this bug properly triaged bug 62322111:49
ubot2Launchpad bug 623221 in espeak (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "hungarian language phoneme is broken and unusable (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/62322111:49
vishbah! i have around 3 bugs waiting for retracers :(12:15
penguin42you need a stick to prod them with12:18
* vish stares at vish_ .. leave!!!!12:26
vishnow, thats better! ;p12:27
devildantehi all :)12:28
* devildante wonders what's all this talk about retracers12:28
yofeldevildante: the apport crash retracing service12:29
yofeland the fact that it happily let's you wait for eternity to give you a proper backtrace12:30
devildantehaha12:30
devildantethanks yofel :)12:30
^arky^Is this bug properly triaged bug 62322113:08
ubot2Launchpad bug 623221 in espeak (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "hungarian language phoneme is broken and unusable (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/62322113:08
kaushalhi13:14
kaushalcan someone please suggest me about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xen-meta/+bug/540110.13:32
ubot2Launchpad bug 540110 in xen-meta (Ubuntu) "ubuntu-xen-server has broken dependencies (dup-of: 538917)" [Undecided,New]13:32
ubot2Launchpad bug 538917 in xen-tools (Ubuntu) "xen-tools is not available in lucid (affects: 25) (dups: 2) (heat: 110)" [Undecided,New]13:32
devildantekaushal: confirm bug 54891713:39
ubot2Launchpad bug 548917 in mountall (Ubuntu) "lucid won't boot from nfs because of mountall.conf (dup-of: 537133)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/54891713:39
ubot2Launchpad bug 537133 in portmap (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 3 other projects) "mountall issues with NFS root filesystem (affects: 15) (dups: 2) (heat: 103)" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/53713313:39
devildantefail13:39
devildantekaushal: confirm bug 53891713:39
ubot2Launchpad bug 538917 in xen-tools (Ubuntu) "xen-tools is not available in lucid (affects: 25) (dups: 2) (heat: 110)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/53891713:39
yofel^arky^: if espeak upstream is Debian then yes.13:40
devildanteyofel, seems upstream is espeak.sourceforge.net13:42
yofelseems so, but I can't find the bug tracker for some reason13:43
kaushaldevildante: is there a fix for it13:49
kaushali didnot understand that13:49
kaushalI mean as per bug < devildante> kaushal: confirm bug 53891713:49
ubot2Launchpad bug 538917 in xen-tools (Ubuntu) "xen-tools is not available in lucid (affects: 25) (dups: 2) (heat: 111)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/53891713:49
devildantekaushal: I meant, set status as confirmed13:50
kaushaldevildante: ok13:51
kaushalso no fix uptill now ?13:51
kaushalI mean no workaround13:51
kaushalJust wanted to understand13:51
yofelnot really, as we ubuntu doesn't have the package in neither lucid nor maverick currently13:53
thekornmvo: hi, can you help me with bug 626740: if a .desktop file shipped with app-install-data has a typo, in this case the typo must be fixed in the original package, right?13:54
ubot2Launchpad bug 626740 in app-install-data-ubuntu (Ubuntu) "String 3871 typo (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/62674013:54
mvothekorn: yeah, we can patch it short term in app-install-data, but most of that data is auto-generated13:56
devildantehi, mvo :) Do you have any idea of what's causing bug 623819? (since you fixed it, I thought you might know why it is/was happening)13:56
ubot2Launchpad bug 623819 in policykit-1-gnome (Ubuntu) "[Maverick] policykit is not responding (affects: 129) (dups: 6) (heat: 616)" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/62381913:56
mvodevildante: yes, was not implementing the full session managment protocol13:57
devildantemvo: is it fixed upstream as well?13:58
mvodevildante: it was a distro patch, but that one should probably be send upstream13:59
mvodevildante: the rational is that we want the agent to be availalbe and one of the best ways to ensure this is by registerng so that its auto-restarted on crashes/errors13:59
thekornmvo: ok, thanks. A user reported a few typos in some desktop files during the last few days, I will change the target now14:00
mvothekorn: thanks! what is the bugnumber (just out of curiosity)14:01
thekornmvo bug 625877, bug 626735, bug 62674014:02
ubot2Launchpad bug 625877 in app-install-data-ubuntu (Ubuntu) "String 3592 typo (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/62587714:02
ubot2Launchpad bug 626735 in app-install-data-ubuntu (Ubuntu) "String 3862 typo (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/62673514:02
ubot2Launchpad bug 626740 in app-install-data-ubuntu (Ubuntu) "String 3871 typo (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/62674014:02
thekorn(I was alarmed by the short title ;))14:02
devildantemvo: can you merge https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~ilidrissi.amine/update-manager/update-manager.fix-624894/+merge/33855, please? ;)14:03
mvodevildante: that is merged in trunk already :) its pending in the review-queue14:12
devildantethanks mvo :)14:12
mvo:)14:12
mvoyw14:12
mvodevildante: I merged the branch as "meged"14:13
mvodevildante: I mean, I *marked* it as merged (can't type today ;)14:13
devildantemvo: ah yeah14:13
devildantemvo: what about https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~ilidrissi.amine/software-center/fix-conflicting-packages/+merge/33818 ?14:13
devildantehi kamusin :)14:20
kamusinhey devildante , how are things there?14:21
devildantekamusin: all is fine :)14:22
kamusinheh super, like a monday morning :)14:23
devildantekamusin: not exactly morning, it's 1:24 PM here :p14:24
kamusindoh'14:24
ta_bu_shi_da_yuhi, I can't seem to connect to au.archive.ubuntu.com when I run a build-dep of openoffice.org14:59
ta_bu_shi_da_yuanyone have any ideas what's going on here?14:59
kklimondata_bu_shi_da_yu: try a different mirror15:02
ta_bu_shi_da_yukklimonda, how do I go about doing this?15:02
ta_bu_shi_da_yuactually, silly me15:05
ta_bu_shi_da_yuquite easy, just forgot how15:05
ta_bu_shi_da_yucheers15:05
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bdmurraythekorn: so the fix for bug 320596 was a bit more involved but has landed ;-)17:45
ubot2Launchpad bug 320596 in malone "Series.searchTasks() always returns an empty collection (affects: 1) (dups: 2) (heat: 34)" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/32059617:45
thekornbdmurray: great, thanks. Is this fix already available on edge or stable?18:04
njinHello, what is a dead-stroke key ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/43192218:05
ubot2Launchpad bug 431922 in ubuntu "dead_stroke broken in some applications (affects: 1) (heat: 16)" [Undecided,Incomplete]18:05
bdmurraythekorn: yes on edge18:05
thekornok, let me verify it's working18:06
thekornbdmurray: list(hardy.searchTasks()) still gives me an empty list on edge :(18:08
thekornbdmurray: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/485917/18:08
bdmurraythekorn: use version='devel'18:12
bdmurraythekorn_: use version='devel'18:12
thekorn_bdmurray: aha, ok. It's looking much better now.18:14
thekorn_thanks for fixing this bug18:14
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devildanteseb128: why did you unassign me bug 572381? After all, I'm working on it, and that's the meaning of assignments :p18:27
ubot2Launchpad bug 572381 in rhythmbox-ubuntuone-music-store (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Ubuntu One Store not showing (affects: 3) (heat: 18)" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/57238118:27
seb128devildante, because I though your part was done and that u1 guys needed to review it now18:27
seb128devildante, if it's not assigned to their team it might just fall off their tracking18:28
devildanteseb128: ah... okay, sorry for bothering you :)18:28
seb128no worry18:28
seb128sorry if you were not done hacking on it18:28
devildanteseb128: no, I'm done :)18:29
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neeraj>for bug 511225, should I file a ff'e request separately?19:08
ubot2Launchpad bug 511225 in sugar-0.88 (Ubuntu) "running sugar causes left-click not to work properly in GNOME (affects: 2) (heat: 34)" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/51122519:08
devildanteneeraj, I don't think so, since you're fixing a bug and not adding a feature19:10
neerajdevildante: Ok. thanks for replying. its a bug fix patch only. Actually i was wondering because the patch was in review stage for a long time . Other patches that I had added were approved much quickly19:15
devildanteneeraj: next time, subscribe ubuntu-sponsors to the bug when you have a debdiff ;)19:16
devildante(I've done this for you already)19:16
neerajdevildante: ohh.. my bad.. thanks again.. one last query.. I have to fix one more bug for sugar-0.88 bug 61758219:21
ubot2Launchpad bug 617582 in sugar-0.88 (Ubuntu) "When opening the control panel some icons are cut off . (affects: 2) (heat: 338)" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/61758219:21
neerajhere, i was confused what should be the revision number of the package.. I mean ubuntu2 is in queue..(like in sponsor) and I am not sure that I can directly jump from ubuntu1 to ubuntu319:23
neerajThis thing has been bothering me for a long time. I mean if there are number of bugs in a package and different people are working on it. then how do we make sure the package name along with version and revision number does not get conflict19:24
devildanteneeraj: the sponsors take care of this, I think19:25
devildanteneeraj: of course, if a sponsor review request got accepted, it would be nice of you to fix the conflict19:26
devildanteneeraj: for now, just put ubuntu2 ;)19:32
neerajdevildante: thanks for the pointers :).. I was just wandering here and there for past 1 hr :)..19:33
neerajthanks a lot..19:33
njin64-bit - Not recommended for daily desktop usage   http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download    Why ???19:49
penguin42njin: Flash is the biggest problem; aren't many others19:50
micahgnjin: I would guess since people might d/l the 64 bit version and it might not run on their machine19:50
micahgpenguin42: flash works fine for me in 64 bit19:50
penguin42micahg: You running 64bit or with nsplugin ?19:50
njinI use 64 bit from two years and i've not great problem..19:51
micahgpenguin42: nspluginwrapper, 64 bit flash has many security issues at this point19:51
penguin42micahg: Yeh, I run with nspluginwrapper and it's not bad these days but it still dies from time to time19:51
penguin42but hey maybe that's no worse than 32bit19:51
njinThanks guys .19:52
mmix-chagsubhey guys if a op is complaining about problems with sound it should be filed against the kernel correct?21:00
mmix-chagsubor i can just put bug 627038 and someone will help me out hopefully21:01
ubot2Launchpad bug 627038 in ubuntu "Sound for sound card "Gembird SC-5.1-1" based on VT1723 chip, detected as ICE1724 is not starting with system every time (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/62703821:01
bdmurrayjibel: do you think we could stop apport-package bugs that include "Read-only file system" in DpkgTerminalLog.txt?21:34
jibelbdmurray, hm, I don't think of a case that would hurt.21:40
jibelbdmurray, but it usually need to be crossed checked with the content of dmesg21:41
jibelbdmurray, e.g. if there is a failure because of a file system being RO then check in dmesg if the file system is mounted RO.21:42
jibelbdmurray, It would be great if we could do the same for device failures. Usually there is an apport-package error showing an I/O error and dmesg shows a medium error or device exception.21:44
jibelbdmurray, we were talking about the regression-* tags with pedro and hggdh.21:52
jibelbdmurray, do you know why the regression-potential was introduced ?21:52
bdmurrayjibel: to keep track of regressions that might show up in the development release of Ubuntu21:54
jibelbdmurray, okay but why not use the regression-release and target the dev release ? Today it's hard to know which regression are 'maybe a regression' and which are confirmed regressions21:55
* hggdh starts paying attention21:55
jibelbdmurray, and when the dev release is released, we need to confirm all the regression-potential and change them to regression-release.21:55
bdmurrayjibel: I see your point and I'm not positive of why but I think the tag was used to denote the state of the regression and regression-release meant regression-releaseD21:57
jibelbdmurray, I triaged nearly 40 bugs tagged release-potential (linux excluded)  and only 2 where correctly tagged21:57
bdmurrayjibel: and why were the tagged incorrectly? should they have been regression-release or were they not regressions at all?21:58
hggdhthe point is a lot of regression -potential bugs are left after the -dev is released21:58
hggdhthey were (probably) regressions in development, but then (for example) lucid became 10.04, and the bugs are still tagged regression-potential21:59
bdmurrayhggdh: well we should have cleaned them up / reviewed them in April or May21:59
hggdhindeed. But it sounds better, now, to tag them regression-release + ubuntu version, and use regression-potential for something that *may* be a regression22:00
bdmurrayI'm not attached to regression-potential however it seems easier to query on ubuntu.searchTasks(tag=reg-pot) than maverick.searchTasks(tag=reg-pot)22:00
jibelbdmurray,  the idea is to use regression-potential to mean 'this is maybe a regression'22:01
hggdhon any release22:01
jibelbdmurray, and when it's confirmed change to 'regression-release' and target the affected release.22:01
jibelas hggdh on any release.22:02
drew212is there any specific reason i'm getting timeout errors when searching on LP for certain packages, specifically firefox?22:02
hggdhdrew212: using edge?22:02
bdmurrayHaving people tag regressions using regression-release then targetting to the release when they are "confirmed" on that release seems simpler to me22:03
drew212hggdh: not as far as i know, idk what edge is22:03
hggdhdrew212: edge.launchpad.net, the test LP instance22:03
hggdhbdmurray: indeed. And we considered that regression-potential should be limited to *probable, but not yet confirmed* regressions22:04
bdmurrayhggdh: and my point is there is no idea for regression-potential as a tag as *probable* can be determined with tag + status or tag + target (release)22:05
bdmurrays/idea/need/ ;-)22:05
drew212hggdh: i got an error even with edge, should i turn off my automatic redirection?22:06
hggdhbdmurray: even better...22:06
hggdhdrew212: yes, try without edge -- you will have to edit the URL, BTW. Edge has a more strict timeout22:06
hggdhjibel: I agree with bdmurray, we could just drop regression-potential22:07
drew212hggdh: well it doesnt work either way...22:07
devildantecan someone triage bug 387247?22:07
ubot2Launchpad bug 387247 in update-manager (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "implement launchpad changelog in update-manager (affects: 1) (heat: 15)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/38724722:07
hggdhdrew212: best bet, then, is #launchpad22:07
bdmurraydrew212: what are your search parameters?22:07
macoyeah22:07
jibeland use the statuses to know if it's confirmed or not ?22:08
drew212bdmurray: i'm in ubuntu, searching for "firefox" under search for a package22:08
hggdhdevildante: done22:08
devildantehggdh: thanks :)22:09
jibelhggdh, so the workflow would be. I, as a reporter, file a bug which I think is a regression.22:09
jibelI, or a triager,  tag it as regression-release and set the status to new.22:09
bdmurraydrew212: okay #launchpad - if you want a workaround let me know what you want to find22:10
jibelif the regression is confirmed, the triager nominate for that release and set the status to confirmed/triaged if there is enough information22:10
hggdhjibel: sounds like it, yes22:10
drew212bdmurray: go to #launchpad?22:10
bdmurraydrew212: yeah, sorry22:11
jibeland if the regression if fixed in the dev release, the main task is closed as fixed release.22:11
hggdhyes22:11
bdmurrayjibel: yes and yes22:11
macodevildante: i marked it wishlist too22:11
hggdhif the bug is not fixed during dev, it stays correctly set22:11
micahgwell, if you get rid of regression-potential, you'll have to have a task for the dev release as well22:11
devildantethank you, maco! ;)22:11
micahgwhich can cause issues if it's not fixed by the next release22:12
hggdhmaco: thank you (I forgot)22:12
jibelhggdh, bdmurray, and we use the -updates and -proposed to identify the pocket.22:12
bdmurrayjibel: right which is the same as now22:12
bdmurraymicahg: cause issues how?22:12
jibelhggdh, bdmurray, sounds good.22:12
hggdh+122:12
micahgbdmurray: you need a new task added for each new release it's not fixed in22:12
hggdhyes22:12
hggdhbut it is better than currently is (regression-potential bugs on released versions, no tasks22:13
bdmurraymicahg: yes and that is correct - the regression should be tracked on a per release basis22:13
jibelbdmurray, hggdh, this will only need a status check after each release. But that's a good target for a bug day.22:13
hggdhjibel: I agree. We will have to spread the news when we go this way22:13
dyfetbug #625996 could be marked triaged22:13
ubot2Launchpad bug 625996 in clamtk (Ubuntu) "ClamAV antivirus engine requires updating (affects: 1) (heat: 3440)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/62599622:13
jibelbdmurray, hggdh, there will have only one thing to sort ... all the reports filed by apport against linux and tagged release-potential without human intervention.22:15
bdmurrayjibel: /usr/share/apport/package-hooks/source_linux.py22:16
micahghggdh: was using regression-$RELEASE to make it easily searchable already discussed?22:17
bdmurrayjibel: and I imagine the kernel bug janitor could update existing tags as it processes bugs22:18
hggdhmicahg: no, it has not. I am sort of not really happy with this option, though -- it gets old fast (regression-karmic, for example, and still a regression today)22:18
micahghggdh: well, tags are less noisy tahan bugs especially if they don't get done22:18
jibelbdmurray, yes I imagine that too but that needs to be discussed with the kernel team. I don't know much about their workflow regarding those reports. Most of them looks the same to me.22:19
hggdhbdmurray, jibel ^22:19
micahgs/bugs/tasks/22:19
bdmurraymicahg: I also feel that it places too much work on the reporter / early triager22:19
bdmurrayjibel: I'd be happy to handle talking to them22:19
micahgbdmurray: to mark regression-$RELEASE_REPORTED?22:19
micahgrather than needing a dev to add a task?22:20
jibelmicahg, and the tags will carry to much information. It's only a marker, not a placeholder to add useful bug information.22:20
bdmurraymicahg: yes and I have plans to fix the latter issue. ;-)22:20
micahgbdmurray: super task creation script?22:20
bdmurrayno changes to Launchpad ;-)22:21
micahgbdmurray: for bug supervisor?22:21
bdmurraymicahg: Release Manager which would likely include some bug supervisor members22:22
micahgbdmurray: you want to restrict task creation further?22:22
bdmurraymicahg: can you target a bug to a release?22:22
micahgbdmurray: no, MOTU can do universe and core-dev everything AFAIK22:23
bdmurraymicahg: last I checked that was for setting milestones not release targetting22:23
micahgbdmurray: no, bug supervisor can assign milestones22:23
yofelI can set a milestone, so every BC member should be able to do that22:24
bdmurrayokay right - so bug supervisor approve nominations and release manager set milestone22:27
micahgbdmurray: bug supervisor cam set milestones on bugs22:28
bdmurraymicahg: right and I think that is wrong22:28
bdmurrayIt hasn't been an issue yet but milestones should be up to the release team22:28
dyfetand bug #62291922:28
ubot2Launchpad bug 622919 in ubuntu "Missing autostart directory (affects: 1) (heat: 577)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/62291922:28
micahgbdmurray: approving nominations requires knowledge of the SRU process and should have some understanding of the change required ( I think it's quite appropriate to have a dev do it)22:29
micahgbdmurray: I agree on the milestoning though22:29
hggdhdyfet: 'ubuntu' is the wrong package on this bug22:29
dyfetah...good point22:30
jibelsbeattie, was your system hit by bug 614993 upgraded from a previous release already (I mean previous to lucid) ?22:30
ubot2Launchpad bug 614993 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "10.04 -> 10.10 upgrade fails: pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks: xserver-xorg-video-v4l demoted to universe (affects: 13) (dups: 8) (heat: 103)" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/61499322:30
bdmurrayjibel: I saw that yesterday too22:30
jibelbdmurray, we've fixed upgrade another issue but I'm enable to reproduce that one on a fresh lucid.22:31
bdmurrayjibel: mines been upgraded since feisty or edgy. ;-)22:32
jibelbdmurray, and all the status files I analyzed contains package from older release that do not exist anymore in lucid.22:32
jibelbdmurray, is your system using some nvidia/nouveau driver ?22:33
bdmurrayjibel: no, ati22:34
jibelbdmurray, which driver ?22:35
micahgbdmurray: devs should be able to nominate milestones or something if it becomes limited to release managers22:36
bdmurrayjibel: radeon22:37
jibelbdmurray, no fglrx package installed at all ?22:38
bdmurrayjibel: ii  fglrx-modaliases                                  2:8.762-0ubuntu0sarvatt~lucid                   Identifiers supported by the ATI graphics dr...22:39
jibelbdmurray,  bah, It seems that you're not using a package from an official Ubuntu repository, because of this we cannot fix your particular bug ;)22:42
bdmurrayjibel: heh, okay ;-)22:44
jibelbdmurray, is xserver-xorg-radeonhd installed, if so, please remove it and tell me if you can upgrade ?22:48
bdmurrayjibel: and leave fglrx-modaliases alone?22:50
jibelbdmurray, yes leave it alone.22:50
jibelbdmurray,the full name is xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd22:51
bdmurrayjibel: yes, I found it22:51
bdmurrayjibel: still could not calculate the upgrade22:51
jibelbdmurray, :/ I've been able to reproduce the pb with that one, there must be another video driver which have been removed in maverick.22:52
jibelbdmurray, please pastebin the output of dpkg -l "xserver-xorg-video*"|grep ^ii22:54
bdmurrayhttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/486037/22:55
sbeattiejibel: yes, I think it's roughly been upgraded all the way up from hardy.22:57
jibelsbeattie, can you try removing xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd and tell if it helps ?22:58
sbeattiejibel: trying.22:58
dyfetAnd I think bug #619621 can be marked as triaged.  I can make a patch for us and debian based on this report.23:01
ubot2Launchpad bug 619621 in gnomeradio (Ubuntu) "some errors in source (affects: 1) (heat: 293)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/61962123:01
yofeljibel: do you know if anyone is looking into those 'is already installed and configured' bugs? we get a lot of them these days23:04
jibelbdmurray, no luck.23:04
yofeldyfet: if you plan on fixing the bug, please set the status to in progress and assign the bug to you23:05
jibelbdmurray, I installed them all and the system still upgrades.23:05
dyfetyofel, okay23:05
sbeattiejibel: wooo, seems to be able to calculate an upgrade path now.23:06
jibelsbeattie, cool \o/23:06
jibelyofel, yes and no. We know that this bug exists but not what is causing it and how to reproduce it.23:11
jibelyofel, I've been working on it with mvo, and we think that a system crash is the cause. And that following that crash the apt binary cache and dpkg status database become out of sync.23:13
jibelyofel, but the error is harmless so we've not been very far.23:13
yofelok thanks (I tend to agree about the cause)23:14
devildantecan someone triage bug 433972?23:14
ubot2Launchpad bug 433972 in linux (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Internet ping is very slow (affects: 31) (heat: 159)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/43397223:14
yofeldevildante: any proposed importance?23:17
devildanteyofel: medium23:17
yofelJFo: ^23:20
jibeltime to go to bed, good night all!23:20
yofelI won't touch the bug for now as the last person there isn't the original reporter and there are many that claim to have the same issue23:20
yofelfor kernel bugs every one of them should file their own bug though23:21
yofelnot sure how the kernel team handles that23:21
devildanteyofel: okay :)23:44
yofeldevildante: bug control app question 3: we mostly want to make sure you have read the documentation, as the triage guide has a section on apport crashes23:46
yofelhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage#Apport%20crash%20reports23:46
dyfetI think bug #616274 can be marked as triaged, at least there is enough info for someone to decide what they want to do with it :)23:49
ubot2Launchpad bug 616274 in gparted (Ubuntu) "gparted menu entry depends on gksu (affects: 1) (heat: 253)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/61627423:49

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