[00:00] <kisuke> zeleftikam, IDK, never really played around with server
[00:00] <zeleftikam> kisuke» ok, thanks for your advice, i'll poke around
[00:00] <jjb123> zeleftikam: How do I check?
[00:00] <Some_Person> kisuke: this is the mouse I have: http://cdn3.ioffer.com/img/item/280/056/62/36_1.JPG
[00:00] <kisuke> Some_Person, what shows the mouse you have plugged in for temporary use?
[00:00] <zeleftikam> jjb123» do you know how to get into the BIOS configuration at boot?
[00:00] <jjb123> yep
[00:00] <unique> how can i let php use mysql
[00:00] <Some_Person> kisuke: The last few lines of dmesg
[00:01] <zeleftikam> unique» #php
[00:01] <jjb123> zelefktikam: Oh, I checked that yeah its fine, the harddrive is set to boot first, and the right harddrive is selected
[00:01] <digitalfiz> what a quick wayto found the files/directories in a directory from cli?
[00:01] <joo_> Hey guys, I recently bought a geforce GTX 460 that doesn't require passthrough yet i still can't get audio to work via hdmi. I compiled and installed the latest ALSA, and the card still doesn't show in the list.
[00:01] <zeleftikam> jjb123» ah. my machine hangs at boot like that, waiting for a CD, if i've got the wrong drive selected. is there a key you can hold down at boot to bring up a screen to select a boot drive?
[00:02] <kisuke> digitalfiz, dir or ls <directory>
[00:02] <kisuke> joo_, that is a video card, not an audio card
[00:02] <joo_> WIth onboard audio.
[00:02] <digitalfiz> kisuke, hmm i didnt finished the sentance i ment how can i find the count not actually list them
[00:02] <joo_> I'm not retarded.
[00:02] <digitalfiz> i know theres a way using a pipe but i cant remember it
[00:02] <bint> how can i setup vnc4server under ubuntu?
[00:03] <bint> i installed it and did set a password.. but how can i now connect to my remote-pc
[00:03] <kisuke> digitalfiz, | grep <term>?
[00:03] <zeleftikam> bint» there is a pretty good vnc server that ships with Ubuntu, you can enable it under Screen Sharing or some such thing in the preferences
[00:03] <kisuke> joo_, check for restricted drivers
[00:03] <baba> jrib, ok, i restarted and stuff
[00:03] <joo_> I've got the latest nvidia drivers and the latest ALSA. This isn't a driver issue.
[00:04] <NewBuntu> I am trying to run Window Network to connect to other Windows Machines in my home network.  Every time I run the Window Network icon, I get Unable to mount location, Failed to retrieve share list from server..
[00:04] <kisuke> joo_, sorry i missed the HDMI part
[00:04] <kisuke> hmm
[00:04] <kisuke> !hdmi
[00:04] <Fendaril> in ubuntu what is th environment variable that tells what terminal the terminal emulator is trying to emulate
[00:04] <joo_> :P
[00:04] <dougb_freebsd> digitalfiz: what are you trying to do?
[00:05] <joo_> Alsa isn't even detecting the HDMI audio
[00:05] <datta> I am trying to install hplip into my system, can anyone tell me why the gui version of hplip does not show up?
[00:05] <joo_> Even when i disable the chipset onboard
[00:05] <digitalfiz> dougb_freebsd, i want the number of files and directories in a directory like a count of how many there are
[00:05] <NewBuntu> I am trying to run Window Network to connect to other Windows Machines in my home network.  Every time I run the Window Network icon, I get Unable to mount location, Failed to retrieve share list from server..
[00:05] <dougb_freebsd> digitalfiz: ls <options> | wc -l
[00:06] <digitalfiz> thats it!
[00:06] <digitalfiz> thank you dougb_freebsd
[00:06] <cablop> dougb_freebsd: no, i'm talking about btrfs
[00:06] <dougb_freebsd> np
[00:06] <digitalfiz> i just couldnt get there i was trying to remember it lol
[00:06] <joo_> So frustrating.
[00:06] <lxLee> how do you convert pdf files to mp3 files?
[00:06] <dougb_freebsd> cablop: ah, ok .... well given that oracle just gutted opensolaris, I don't think that's going to be relevant to free software users any time soon :)
[00:07] <NewBuntu> Anyone to assist me
[00:07] <baba> how do I get LAMP?
[00:07] <NewBuntu> I am trying to run Window Network to connect to other Windows Machines in my home network.  Every time I run the Window Network icon, I get Unable to mount location, Failed to retrieve share list from server..
[00:07] <NewBuntu> I am trying to run Window Network to connect to other Windows Machines in my home network.  Every time I run the Window Network icon, I get Unable to mount location, Failed to retrieve share list from server..
[00:07] <baba> jrib, how do I install LAMP?
[00:07] <FloodBot3> NewBuntu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:07] <joo_> This is so frustrating xD
[00:07] <aeon-ltd> lxLee: say wut?
[00:07] <Fendaril> ok where is terminfo located on ubuntu
[00:07] <aeon-ltd> baba: LAMP = apache mysql php/perl
[00:08] <Fendaril> NewBuntu:Be patient. People will be less likely to help you if you repeadtly try to grieve people by spamming your question
[00:08] <zeleftikam> baba» i think there is a package for it
[00:08] <lxLee> aeon-ltd: how do you convert a pdf document into an mp3 file?
[00:08] <joo_> Anyone?
[00:08] <NewBuntu> Sorry
[00:09] <dougb_freebsd> lxLee: those are totally different things, what is it that you're trying to accomplish by converting the files?
[00:09] <jonanin> i like turtles
[00:09] <unique> php5-mysql: Depends: php5-common (= 5.3.2-1ubuntu4) but 5.3.2-1ubuntu4.2 is to be installed <--- why am i getting this when i try to install php5-mysql ?
[00:09] <shuman> ninja tutrtles?
[00:09] <bint> [01:03] <zeleftikam> bint» there is a pretty good vnc server that ships with Ubuntu, you can enable it under Screen Sharing or some such thing in the preferences <- i'm using ubuntu-server distro
[00:09] <shuman> turtles*
[00:10] <zeleftikam> bint» ah, so you have no GUI
[00:10] <wasabi_> exit
[00:10] <bint> i dont have a gui no
[00:10] <bint> i just got vnc4server installed it and stuff
[00:10] <mininessie> if i stop a distro upgrade via ubuntu 10.04 to 10.10 will it resume back to where it was at
[00:10] <bint> but now i dont know how to set it up etc..
[00:10] <zeleftikam> bint» how is VNC server going to work if you have no GUI?
[00:11] <bint> why shouldn't it?
[00:11] <DIL> NewBuntu, is your smb.conf stating the network
[00:11] <bint> i have a gui
[00:11] <bint> its called: fluxbox
[00:11] <aeon-ltd> lxLee: no really say wut? pdf=text/images mp3=sound container
[00:11] <bint> but you can access a server without gui with vnc
[00:11] <bint> you'll just have the cmd line then
[00:11] <scans> whats mean this msg installArchives() failed: dpkg: status database area is locked by another process
[00:11] <Sir_Leto> fyi: X11 won't start on headless servers in 10.4 without a monitor or keyboard plugged in.
[00:12] <NewBuntu> DIL: What do you mean? I think smb.conf has been installed from Synaptic Package Manager
[00:12] <cablop> bint... you don't use vnc to access a server... you use ssh or a remote tty...
[00:12] <cablop> :P
[00:12] <zeleftikam> bint» http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=118911
[00:12] <bint> cablop but i wanna use vnc :D
[00:12] <aeon-ltd> scans: your already using spt/synaptics
[00:12] <billy_> hi -  i'm still looking for a way to stop nautilus writing .trash files to cameras and mp3 players - where do i look?
[00:12] <joo_> I hope this gets fixed in another nvidia driver... because this is really doing my head in.
[00:12] <cablop> bint, then set a gui on that :P
[00:13] <scans> aeon-ltd: no they install run until 50% then show me this msg
[00:13] <aeon-ltd> *apt
[00:13] <datta> can anyone please help in installing hp officejet 3680?
[00:13] <DIL> NewBuntu, yea by default is workgroup you network name must be the same if it is then you should see your shares
[00:13] <aeon-ltd> scans: what other package related processes are running though?
[00:14] <scans> nothing
[00:14] <seidos> where can I get an updated /usr/share/X11/locale/en_US.UTF-8/Compose file?
[00:15] <NewBuntu> DIL: I've not changed the workgroup name.  The problem is when I go to Windows Network to view I get the error message I have pasted above.
[00:15] <zeleftikam> datta» http://h10018.www1.hp.com/wwsolutions/linux/products/printing_imaging/index.html
[00:15] <NewBuntu> DIL: It doesn't even proceed further
[00:15] <unique> php5-mysql: Depends: php5-common (= 5.3.2-1ubuntu4) but 5.3.2-1ubuntu4.2 is to be installed <--- why am i getting this when i try to install php5-mysql ?
[00:16] <baba> aeon-ltd, how do I startup Apache?
[00:16] <baba> I believe it's downloaded
[00:16] <joo_> Anyone got any suggestions at all on how i can get ALSA to detect my GTX460 HDMI audio?
[00:16] <zeleftikam> baba» sudo apachectl start
[00:16] <datta> zeleftikam: well I have installed hplip but the gui does not open up when I click on it form the preference menu
[00:16] <Fendaril> Where is the terminfo file located on ubuntu?
[00:17] <DIL> NewBuntu, ok your windows network name and linux name has to be the same - cat /etc/samba/smb.conf and see what there it s/b as windows
[00:17] <aeon-ltd> scans: i'm not really sure what the problem is, but i suppose you could try after a clean restart/reboot
[00:17] <zeleftikam> datta» hmm. i've not had good luck with hplip an my laserjet
[00:17] <baba> zeleftikam, apachectl command not found
[00:18] <NewBuntu> DIL: What is cat?
[00:18] <zeleftikam> baba» doesn't seem very installed then
[00:18] <zeleftikam> baba» remove and install the package?
[00:18] <aeon-ltd> !cat | NewBuntu
[00:18] <aetaric> cat 'reads' a file
[00:18] <Fendaril> !terminfo
[00:18] <aeon-ltd> NewBuntu: whoops wrong factoid
[00:18] <baba> zeleftikam, i "installed" the package using "Ubuntu Software CenteR"
[00:18] <DIL> NewBuntu, places content to screen
[00:18] <datta> zeleftikam: what do you use?
[00:19] <aeon-ltd> NewBuntu: cat = concatentate i.e merge files although in can be used for what aetaric and DIL said
[00:19] <aetaric> DIL: no, it prints a file to STDOUT...screen is a program
[00:19] <zeleftikam> datta» nothing, i switched back to Mac OS X so i could print again =D bad answer. sorry
[00:19] <aetaric> but yes concatenate is right....
[00:19] <datta> cause my officejet is getting the size of the scans different
[00:19] <baba> zeleftikam, how do I ensure it's installation?
[00:20] <DIL> cat is also an animal :-)
[00:20] <zeleftikam> baba» find it in the synaptic package manager, complete remove, and then install it fresh
[00:20] <aeon-ltd> DIL: +1
[00:20] <mininessie> how do i use patch
[00:21] <red2kic> !patch | mininessie
[00:21] <aaroninfidel> if I have no prior programming experience what language should I start to develop in so I can really understand the core fundamentals of programming and really "GET IT"? rather then just learning what codes to type and not understanding why...
[00:21] <josh> does anyone know what themes lubuntu uses
[00:22] <maco> aaroninfidel: get one of the "how to think like a computer scientist" books
[00:22] <NewBuntu> DIL: the smb.conf contains lots of lines
[00:22] <unique> php5-mysql: Depends: php5-common (= 5.3.2-1ubuntu4) but 5.3.2-1ubuntu4.2 is to be installed <--- why am i getting this when i try to install php5-mysql ?
[00:22] <xzwerm> Greetings
[00:22] <maco> aaroninfidel: there's a free (like open source) one for python
[00:22] <aeon-ltd> aaroninfidel: something basic like html + javascript --> then something harder like a variant of C
[00:22] <ryaxnb>  /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:22] <dougb_freebsd> aaroninfidel: what type of stuff do you want to develop?
[00:22] <aetaric> NewBuntu: cat /etc/samba/smb.conf | less
[00:22] <NewBuntu> DIL: workgroup = WORKGROUP
[00:23] <aetaric> or...
[00:23] <ryaxnb> argh...
[00:23] <ryaxnb> :/
[00:23] <aetaric> cat /etc/samba/smb.conf | grep workgroup
[00:23] <neil_d> I am using a bind mount to a directory in my home... it is mounting fine :) .... but I get an icon on my desktop :( ... is there anyway to stop the icon appearing?
[00:23] <NewBuntu> aetaricL Do I type this in the Terminal?
[00:23] <DIL> NewBuntu, WORKGROUP s/B you network name
[00:23] <aeon-ltd> NewBuntu: yes
[00:23] <aetaric> yes ... i'd just copy paste that last line i typed
[00:24] <DIL> NewBuntu, or edit conf to match your ntwork name
[00:24] <freezway> hey, im trying to get lmms to work well, but 4.5.0 crashed so i found a 4.7.0 ppa and am using it now. That fixed the crashes. I also have experienced bad latency so i started using jack, but then my sound quality goes bad and I can't get rid of weird pops and beats when i play chords. Anyone wanna help. I have an integrated sound card
[00:25] <NewBuntu> DIL: The terminal returned the following: # Change this to the workgroup/NT-domain name your Samba server will part of
[00:25] <NewBuntu>    workgroup = WORKGROUP
[00:26] <NewBuntu> DIL:  I didn't change Windows 7 workgroup name
[00:27] <NewBuntu> DIL: so surely that should match with the workgroup name of my ubuntu laptop
[00:27] <DIL> NewBuntu, which is workgroup? win7 and samba has issues
[00:28] <NewBuntu> DIL: What do you mean issues? In what way..?
[00:28] <dmex> NewBuntu: samba doesnt support NTMLv2 well
[00:28] <DIL> NewBuntu, shares not being seen
[00:28] <dougb_freebsd> IIRC the default workgroup name in windows 7 was not "WORKGROUP" you might want to check that on the windows 7 box
[00:28] <Fendaril> This is a really stupid question by I somehow made my pdf viewer full screen
[00:28] <dmex> NTLM^
[00:28] <aaroninfidel> dougb_freebsd: well right now I've mostly been developing websites, but I wanted to get into building my own MMO with 2d sprites. and I looked into node.js and socket.io and after reading a few lines of documentation I just felt really overwhelmed and confused.
[00:28] <Fendaril> How do I change it back
[00:29] <Fendaril> This is the default one that comes with ubuntu
[00:29] <DIL> NewBuntu, see message from dougb_freebsd
[00:29] <dougb_freebsd> aaroninfidel: by MMO do you mean Massively Muliplayer Online game?
[00:29] <aaroninfidel> dougb_freebsd: yes.
[00:29] <NewBuntu> DIL and dmex: Does that mean that it isn't possible to copy data across network by accessing files from other Windows machines?
[00:29] <dougb_freebsd> If so, you're going to need to learn C++
[00:29] <Josesordo> Hello all
[00:30] <dougb_freebsd> .... so better to start with good books on C++, rather than trying to learn concepts from other languages, that'll just confuse you
[00:30] <Fendaril> dougb_freebsd:he should learn NASM since it's 100x easier then c++ right?
[00:30] <Josesordo> I have a question, I just installed ubuntu 10.04 64bits again and I want to know if is neccesary to install driver for ATI HD Radeon 2600 to use compiz?
[00:30] <DIL> NewBuntu, i have several boxes on my network xp is fine having issues with win7
[00:31] <dougb_freebsd> Fendaril: evil :)
[00:31] <dmex> NewBuntu: type secpol.msc into your win7 start-menu searchbox
[00:31] <aeon-ltd> Josesordo: yes most likely, plug and play isn't that good yet
[00:31] <NewBuntu> DIL: no msg received from doug_freebsd
[00:31] <edju> Running Kubuntu Lucid and trying to get the system to recognize a 1st gen iphone.   I can mount it w/ ifuse, but that's it.  Neither Amarok nor Rhythmbox recognize it.  I've tried searching, but all I can find are posts that it "just works."  Well, not here.  Any hints, pointers, work-arounds, etc. appreciated.
[00:31] <dmex> NewBuntu: Go to: Local Policies > Security Options and then find "Network Security: LAN Manager" authentication level. Once there, change the Setting from "Send NTLMv2 response only" to "Send LM & NTLM -- use NTLMv2 session security if negotiated."
[00:32] <Josesordo> so, what drivers I install the one that ubuntu download for me or the one from ati.com?
[00:32] <NewBuntu> dmex: You mean in Wind7 laptop?
[00:33] <whiterabbit1337> Jose, Have you tried using Compiz before downloading any drivers?
[00:33] <dmex> NewBuntu: yes
[00:34] <aaroninfidel> dougb_freebsd: but if the server is going to be written in node.js do you still think it's a good idea to learn C++ ? or do you mean I should learn C++ because it'll allow me to understand the core concepts of programming?
[00:34] <dmex> NewBuntu: type secpol.msc into your win7 start-menu searchbox, open it and goto Local Policies > Security Options
[00:34] <dougb_freebsd> aaroninfidel: it makes no sense to write an MMO server in node.js
[00:35] <klappi> dougb_freebsd: and why so?
[00:35] <dougb_freebsd> but if you want to learn node.js, learn node.js ... or maybe I'm not understanding your question :)
[00:35] <aaroninfidel> dougb_freebsd: I heard it was a good idea because it's no-blocking
[00:36] <dougb_freebsd> klappi: because of the whole concept of "massively multiplayer"  ... javascript doesn't scale on the "massively" OR the "multiplayer" levels
, no yet
[00:36] <freezway> hey, im trying to get lmms to work well, but 4.5.0 crashed so i found a 4.7.0 ppa and am using it now. That fixed the crashes. I also have experienced bad latency so i started using jack, but then my sound quality goes bad and I can't get rid of weird pops and beats when i play chords. Anyone wanna help. I have an integrated sound card
[00:36] <dougb_freebsd> ... but this isn't the right channel for that discussion :)
[00:36] <kyan> (asked this already) sudo apt-get upgrade doesn't work. It reports nothing to upgrade. This has gone on for a good while now. Any suggestions?
[00:37] <kyan> At least is there a way I could learn the installed versions of all packages on my system?
[00:38] <NewBuntu> dmex: currently the security setting is not defined for Network Security: LAN Manager
[00:39] <dmex> NewBuntu: the undefined or default is "Send NTLMv2 response only", you must change it to "Send LM & NTLM -- use NTLMv2 session security if negotiated."
[00:39] <NewBuntu> dmex: changed as instructed.  Then?
[00:40] <lumos> hi, im running of a livecd and need to change some files on my hardrive, does anyone know how i can log in as root from terminal?
[00:40] <dmex> NewBuntu: now you can access your win7 shares from samba/ubuntu/xp
[00:41] <NewBuntu> dmex: What do I do?  Use terminal to enter this command line
[00:41] <NewBuntu> >
[00:41] <NewBuntu> #>
[00:41] <drem> hello I was wondering if anyone can help me install a video driver?
[00:41] <lumos> hi, im running of a livecd and need to change some files on my hardrive, does anyone know how i can log in as root from terminal?
[00:41] <lumos> hi, im running of a livecd and need to change some files on my hardrive, does anyone know how i can log in as root from terminal?
[00:41] <drem> type su root
[00:42] <dmex> NewBuntu: you dont need to use terminal, you can just access it from the ubuntu places menu
[00:42] <drem> how do I install video drivers?
[00:43] <miro_> lumos: sudo su
[00:43] <freezway> drem, what card do you have
[00:43] <NewBuntu> dmex: the ubuntu subfolder in samba does not exist!!
[00:43] <drem> i have an ATI Radeon Xpress 200M
[00:43] <lumos> miro - but thats if i want to be su on the livecd, because its ubuntu@ubuntu, i want lumos@lumos, access to my hardrive
[00:44] <freezway> ok, go Systrem>Admin>Hardware drivers
[00:44] <freezway> see if it shows up
[00:44] <drem> it does not show up
[00:44] <datta> I am trying to move some files into /usr/share/
[00:44] <dmex> NewBuntu: just click Places on the top ubuntu menu then Network, then it will show your win7 box
[00:44] <freezway> drem are there drivers on ati'
[00:44] <freezway> s website
[00:45] <datta> I heard that you can do that by unlocking all the file managers but how is that possible?
[00:45] <tiq> is there a way to make the system ask for root password when entering single user mode?
[00:45] <drem> yes but they send me to a third party to download
[00:45] <NewBuntu> dmex:Only Windows Network is showing in Network
[00:45] <freezway> drem, are you 32 or 64 bit
[00:45] <lumos> miro - but thats if i want to be su on the livecd, because its ubuntu@ubuntu, i want lumos@lumos, access to my hardrive
[00:46] <lumos> hi, im running of a livecd and need to change some files on my hardrive, does anyone know how i can log in as root from terminal?
[00:46] <drem> 32 bit
[00:46] <drem> I am on a gateway laptop if that helps also
[00:46] <dmex> NewBuntu: yes?
[00:46] <dougb_freebsd> lumos: I don't think you understand how the livecd works :)
[00:46] <freezway> drem, there dont appear to be proprietary drivers... =(
[00:46] <freezway> drem, i can see if i can find beta ones... 1 sec
[00:46] <dougb_freebsd> lumos: while you're booted on the livecd, click Places on the menu, and then select the drive where the files you want to edit are located
[00:47] <NewBuntu> dremx: Clicking on this option results in the error msg
[00:47] <NewBuntu> failed to mount etc etc
[00:47] <drem> ok thank you I'll wait
[00:47] <lumos> dougb_freebsd: i cant edit them? i need to edit my xorg.conf failsafe, because i activated my gfx card and now when i log on its a blank screen. sorry im a nub
[00:48] <lumos> dougb_freebsd: they are read only's
[00:48] <dougb_freebsd> well, what happens when you try to edit them?
[00:48] <billy_> I'm looking for the config files that control how nautilus works with internal and external drives?
[00:48] <dmex> NewBuntu: whats the exact error? you shouldnt get a mount error from browsing either.
[00:48] <lumos> dougb_freebsd: i need to rename it, but its a failsage
[00:48] <lumos> safe*
[00:49] <freezway> drem, you might try the xpress 200 drivers, but I dont think they'll work... backup first if you do... this could get messy
[00:49] <NewBuntu> dremx: Dialogue box which says: Unable to mount location. Failed to retrieve share list from server
[00:49] <datta> can anyone please tell me how I can copy a file to usr/share
[00:49] <datta> it does not allow me at all to do that
[00:49] <dougb_freebsd> lumos: well, someone else already gave you the right answer, open a terminal and type:  su root
[00:49] <drem> ha! ok thank you.
[00:50] <drem> I don't think I will hassle with it because I just wanted to install the driver to change effects of my desktop and such
[00:50] <datta> I am trying to transfer a directory from desktop to usr/share
[00:50] <freezway> drem, I honestly dont think it will work, but its worth a try...
[00:50] <lumos> dougb_freebsd: but i cant, its expecting to log me on at ubuntu@ubuntu, when i need to log on for lumos. it says authentithication failure
[00:50] <freezway> drem, ok...
[00:50] <Sunderphon> is there an alternative to notify-osd I can use? The enforced expiry time (10 seconds for a 1 word notification? Really?) is ridiculous
[00:50] <dougb_freebsd> lumos: you can't log in as your normal user on the livecd
[00:51] <lumos> dougb_freebsd: how would i do that?
[00:51] <lumos> dougb_freebsd: oh sorry i see
[00:51] <dmex> NewBuntu: do you have cable or adsl?
[00:51] <drem> freezway, I am guessing the reason why I can't apply themes with emerald or use effects with compiz is because I do not have my driver installed right?
[00:51] <lumos> dougb_freebsd: then how can i change this file?
[00:52] <NewBuntu> dremx: adsl.  Couldn't be that Ubuntu is an upgrade from 8.04 to 9.10 to 10.04.  Would a fresh install resolve the issue
[00:52] <dougb_freebsd> lumos: when you open a terminal and type 'su root' what happens?
[00:52] <lumos> dougb_freebsd: authentithication failure
[00:52] <lumos> dougb_freebsd: after it asks for pw
[00:53] <dougb_freebsd> what happens if you just type 'su'
[00:53] <dmex> NewBuntu: yes
[00:53] <lumos> dougb_freebsd: same
[00:53] <dougb_freebsd> are you sure you're booted into the livecd ?
[00:53] <NewBuntu> dmex: What has the upgrade not fixed the problem?
[00:54] <dougb_freebsd> and if so, what version?
[00:54] <lumos> dougb_freebsd: yes
[00:54] <lumos> dougb_freebsd: ubuntu 9.1
[00:54] <drem> I am guessing the reason why I can't apply themes with emerald or use effects with compiz is because I do not have my driver installed right?
[00:54] <dmex> NewBuntu: its probably causing the problem using old configuration files.
[00:54] <zzzed__> dougb_freebsd, lumos: it 'sudo su', will give you UID=0, which is root for all filesystems, but if you don't understand this, you probably shouldn't do it
[00:55] <freezway> drem, most likely yes
[00:55] <dougb_freebsd> ok, you might try burning a 10.04 version then, what I'm describing worked fine for me with the 10.04 livecd
[00:55] <NewBuntu> dmex: I am considering edubuntu dvd copy.  How is this comparing to Ubuntu
[00:55] <drem> freezway, thank you for your help
[00:55] <datta> why does not hp-toolbox open anything?
[00:55] <lumos> zzzed__: my brother told me i need to rename the file, to fix my graphics
[00:55] <datta> I went to /usr/bin/hp-toolbox and still the file there does not open anything at all
[00:55] <lumos> zzzed__: he wont help me though :(
[00:55] <dougb_freebsd> lumos: ok, what happens if you type 'sudo su'
[00:55] <lumos> dougb_freebsd: ok thanks, i think i might have some more updated live cd;s
[00:55] <freezway> drem, you're welcome, sorry theres no driver
[00:56] <dmex> NewBuntu: an educational build?
[00:56] <zzzed__> lumos, well to get root permissions 'sudo su'
[00:56] <lumos> dougb_freebsd: i already told you, it asks for pass word then authentithication failure
[00:56] <dougb_freebsd> lumos: that command that zzzed__ suggested is different from the ones I suggested
[00:56] <BiggFREE> Try sudo su -
[00:56] <datta> no gui, in terminal it does not stay for much long
[00:56] <lumos> dougb_freebsd: how is it?
[00:57] <billy_> bye folks - guess i'll just use windows - it's not broken by design
[00:57] <NewBuntu> dmex: I heard you can add this on top of ubuntu and specify whether to use either at logon screen
[00:57] <lumos> billy_: FUUUUUUUUUUu
[00:57] <lumos> zzzed__: i have already tried this
[00:58] <snow_usa> lumos,
[00:58] <snow_usa> ubu`ntu'
[00:58] <snow_usa> u'bu`ntu
[00:58] <snow_usa> u`bu'ntu`
[00:58] <snow_usa> u?bu`ntu?
[00:58] <dougb_freebsd> lumos: ok, try a newer cd then
[00:58] <snow_usa> dougb_freebsd, do you know u?bu`ntu?
[00:58] <lumos> dougb_freebsd: ok thanks
[00:59] <klappi> my name is klappi and i pronounce ubuntu as ubuntu
[00:59] <snow_usa> klappi, no, but there should be some annotations
[00:59] <snow_usa> like : u`tu'ntu`
[00:59] <snow_usa> or u?bu`ntu?
[00:59] <n0a1ias> how do i get to a document in a .ssh folder in my home directory
[00:59] <snow_usa> or u'bu`ntu'
[00:59] <freezway> hey, im trying to get lmms to work well, but 4.5.0 crashed so i found a 4.7.0 ppa and am using it now. That fixed the crashes. I also have experienced bad latency so i started using jack, but then my sound quality goes bad and I can't get rid of weird pops and beats when i play chords. Anyone wanna help. I have an integrated sound card
[01:00] <lumos> mi legas #ubuntu
[01:00] <dmex> NewBuntu: I dont know if you can or not, would be a question for everyone else.
[01:00] <snow_usa> uh
[01:00] <snow_usa> yeah
[01:00] <chrysanthemum> n0a1ias: In terminal, ls -a will show you all files in a folder, you can then just cd to it..
[01:01] <klappi> snow_usa: ùbúntú ?
[01:01] <no_u0>  anyone have a copy of npwrapper.libflashplayer.so. i deleted mine, and i cant find another copy without downloading random packages
[01:01] <snow_usa> yeah
[01:01] <snow_usa> klappi, how can you write that ?
[01:01] <tiq> lumos: add "single" as a kernel parameter when pressing "e" in your grub menu, and you'll get command line root without password prompts
[01:01] <snow_usa> ủbùntu
[01:01] <Fendaril> How do you grep a package list
[01:01] <snow_usa> or úbủntù
[01:02] <n0a1ias> chrysanthemum, yea im in the directory but how do i open a document in that folder?
[01:02] <dominicdinada> !zombie
[01:02] <dmex> snow_usa, stop that
[01:02] <klappi> i type ` and u after taht
[01:02] <bsod1> what is the name of the display on right top corner in gnome that show us when our battrery is low or some other warnings *sorry for my english*
[01:03] <dominicdinada> I am coming up with a zombie process how do identify and kill it
[01:03] <baba> can someone tell me how to run apache?
[01:03] <snow_usa> dmex, why ?
[01:03] <snow_usa> it's interesting then?
[01:03] <kisuke> dominicdinada, in a terminal ues top to find the program and kill to kill it
[01:03] <chrysanthemum> n0a1ias: well you can look at it with "less [filename]", or edit it with something like "vim [filename]"
[01:03] <red2kic> !apache | baba
[01:03] <dmex> !offtopic | snow_usa
[01:03] <dominicdinada> baba: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[01:04] <snow_usa> !offtopic | dmex
[01:04] <dmex> !op | snow_usa
[01:04] <bsod1> what is the name of the display on right top corner in gnome that show us when our battrery is low or some other warnings *sorry for my english*
[01:04] <KB1JWQ> How about you both keep to topic?
[01:04] <Flannel> snow_usa: Please stop that.
[01:04] <kisuke> snow_usa, dmex, quit with the war, its getting annoying
[01:04] <sinnedam> ok, this is a stupid question, but i just installed KDE for ubuntu how the heck do you shut down? it isnt an option under "leave"
[01:04] <maco> snow_usa: can you please stick to tech support questions?
[01:04] <baba> dominicdinada, httpd already running
[01:05] <baba> dominicdinada, where do I find the settings file for it?
[01:05] <baba> so I can change settings in htaccess?
[01:05] <snow_usa> maco , ok
[01:05] <Seeker`> snow_usa: as suggested, #ubuntu-offtopic may be more appropriate
[01:05] <bsod1> what is the name of the display on right top corner in gnome that show us when our battrery is low or some other warnings *sorry for my english*
[01:05] <kisuke> bsod1, its the equivilant of the windows systray, i dont recall the name of it in gnome atm
[01:05] <snow_usa> Seeker`, Ím silent now
[01:06] <red2kic> bsod1: Notification Area?
[01:06] <bsod1> thanks for advices, I'll google them
[01:07] <red2kic> bsod1: Or you mean notify-osd?
[01:07] <n0a1ias> chrysanthemum, i ont remember the filename and ls shows up nothing
[01:07] <zerothis> I'm trying to get a canon pixima ip1600 working. had it working once before on hardy.
[01:08] <BiggFREE> In the command df -i (What does i mean ?) and in df -h (What does h mean ?)
[01:08] <red2kic> BiggFREE: "man df"
[01:08] <n0a1ias> i mieans interactive, it means it asks you everything
[01:09] <BiggFREE> red2kic: Thanks
[01:09] <dad_> how to add gconfig-editor
[01:09] <KE1HA> BiggFREE, -i lists the inode id's, do a df -i  then a df -hT and not thediffrence.
[01:10] <ComradeHaz`> Hey guys, how do I make my system start without starting a desktop environment? (ie just boot to tty1)
[01:10] <Guest78571> how to add gconfig-editor
[01:10] <sinnedam> anybody? how can i shut down or restart from GUI in KDE..the "leave" menu doesnt list it
[01:10] <zerothis> Guest78571: sudo apt-get install gconfig-editor
[01:10] <ComradeHaz`> sinnedam, does Alt+f2 bring anything up?
[01:11] <sinnedam> brings up the run menu
[01:11] <ComradeHaz`> run a konsole
[01:11] <ComradeHaz`> sudo reboot.
[01:11] <sinnedam> but there is no GUI option?
[01:11] <ComradeHaz`> or sudo halt to turn off.
[01:11] <ComradeHaz`> well, sure.
[01:11] <zzzed__> zerothis, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1320222&highlight=libcupsys2
[01:12] <ComradeHaz`> Sorry, I thiught you were saying it had temporarilly dissapeared.
[01:12] <sinnedam> no its not under that menu at all
[01:12] <cablop> i got tired with this alternate installer, sigh :(
[01:12] <ComradeHaz`> it's under teh K in bottom left
[01:12] <ComradeHaz`> then to the right hand 'tab'
[01:12] <BiggFREE> KE1HA: Thanks ... I just took a look at man df.
[01:12] <kyan> How can I generate a list of installed packages and their versions?
[01:12] <sinnedam> yeah right hand tab is "leave
[01:12] <sinnedam> when i click that
[01:12] <sinnedam> there is no option to shut down or restart
[01:12] <sinnedam> just log off
[01:12] <maco> sinnedam: are you by chance not only person logged in or not an admin?
[01:13] <sinnedam> no
[01:13] <cablop> it's giving me this failure while configuring required packages error... is there a known issue with the laternate package in lucid? i checked the disk, it is ok
[01:13] <ComradeHaz`> I see. If you right click you can customize that.
[01:13] <red2kic> !clone | kyan
[01:13] <n0a1ias> how do i use the file manager to get in a .ssh directory?
[01:13] <ComradeHaz`> n0a1ias, what do you mean?
[01:13] <Guest78571> zerothis E: Invalid operation gconfig-editor
[01:14] <ComradeHaz`> you mean access a remote directoy using ssh n0a1ias?
[01:14] <KE1HA> n0a1ias, open Places,Home Folder, then View >> Show Hidden Files
[01:15] <n0a1ias> no, i put the pub key in a folder called .ssh, now i need the key, but i neet to open the file and change the key, so i cant use terminal
[01:15] <KE1HA> n0a1ias, then navigate to .ssh
[01:15] <kyan> Well, my goal is not to clone it but to be able to manually check to see if I have the latest versions, because I broke apt-get.
[01:15] <zerothis> Guest78571: did you type the whole thing or forget "install"? sudo apt-get install gconfig-editor
[01:15] <n0a1ias> thanks KE1HA
[01:15] <mickey> hi
[01:15] <zzzed__> n0alias, ctrl+h
[01:15] <ComradeHaz`> why can't you use terminal?
[01:15] <mgmuscari> does anybody here have experience running pulseaudio as a systemwide daemon? and i know it's not intended to be run that way - it's running on a dedicated sound server which never has interactive user sessions logged in
[01:15] <Guest78571> zerothis hahaha  brain damage.. been fixin this thing up all day
[01:15] <n0a1ias> i need to beable to open and change the file
[01:16] <zzzed__> n0alias, ctrl+h
[01:16] <ComradeHaz`> yeah....?
[01:16] <ComradeHaz`> nano .ssh/foo
[01:16] <jefinc> I loaded ubuntu netbook edition onto a LGX120 and it is extremely slow, any suggestions?
[01:16] <Guest78571> zerothis Ill get there im sure    Couldn't find package gconfig-editor
[01:17] <LibertyZero> Guest78571: There is no such thing as gconfig-editor. Do you mean gconf-editor?
[01:17] <sinnedam> hhmm still cant figure this out
[01:18] <LibertyZero> sinnedam: if you start kde through gdm you won't be able to shut down through kde directly, because the session management doesn't play along...
[01:18] <Guest78571> LibertyZero  gettin tired   thx
[01:19] <sinnedam> oh...so is there a way i can change that?
[01:19] <baba> red2kic, what is the main PHP library I install so I can host php?
[01:19] <red2kic> baba: I do not know. Check !php for possible answers. :o
[01:19] <Guest78571> OK  what I am trying to do is Move my Docky and I am having difficulty
[01:20] <Guest78571> OK  what I am trying to do is Move my Docky and I am having difficulty  in 10.04
[01:22] <Guest78571> OK  what I am trying to do is Move my Docky and I am having difficulty  in 10.04  It says to drag but it won't drag.. the border turns a cool blue but doesn't move
[01:23] <bonez2046> kyan: Thanks.. I know tesseract does a great job with simple text. I am curious about a table/spreadsheet though. wanting to extract data from a spreadsheet.. is there any applet that can tackle a spreadsheet?
[01:24] <[thor]> Guest78571: once the appropriate dock is highlighted, select the position with the dropdown menu ( Top/Bottom/Left/Right )
[01:25] <kyan> bonez2046 : No idea, sorry. For that I just boot Window$ in a vm and use omnipage SE.
[01:26] <kyan> It might run with WINE though. I haven't tried.
[01:26] <delinquentme> hey all im using the search tool in ubuntu ... and looking to find a file that has BOTH "jquery" and "10px" in it ... the search STRING that id be using would simply be "jquery 10px" ... or will that only return a hit where the term matches exactly "jquery 10px"
[01:26] <kyan> (Omnipage SE is some adware that comes packaged with canon scanners, IIRC.)
[01:27] <Guest78571> [thor] ok now i got it..  also if I empty a dock y cant I get rid of it.. or how do i get rid of it?
[01:27] <[thor]> Guest78571: sorry, i don't know the answer to that one
[01:28] <Guest78571> I have added a dock to the desktop and don't want it.. how do I remove it in 10.04
[01:28] <jMyles> I am at my wits end with the simple task of getting a port to forward to another computer (ubuntu server)
[01:28] <kyan> bonez2046 : If you want to slow your computer with that little bit of trialware, here's a link : http://wcarchive.cdrom.com/pub/scansoft/Canon_Svu_v20.zip )
[01:29] <ClayG> how can i capture the sound that i am hearing through my laptops speakers?
[01:29] <Craig_Dem> Uninstall the dock in synaptic.
[01:29] <ClayG> something universal that would grab the sound from a youtube video or even internet radio?
[01:31] <NewBuntu> Is it true that you can add KDE to the system and keep both Gnome and KDE installed?
[01:32] <maco> NewBuntu: yes
[01:32] <Guest78571> [thor]  docky, select dock, delete is on the bottom of choices.. Can you tell me how to rearrange the icons
[01:32] <maco> NewBuntu: just install the kubuntu-desktop package. the login screen lets you choose which to login to
[01:32] <geirha> ClayG: Put a tape-recorder next to the speakers and hit record.
[01:32] <cromag> what happens if i set a resolution which is not suitable for my screen and press apply ? - will it come back after x seconds if i dont hit "ok" or somthing ?
[01:32] <[thor]> Guest78571: drag em around
[01:32] <yowshi> how do i turn alt + ctrl + backspace back on?
[01:32] <NewBuntu> maco: how do I add it?
[01:32] <[thor]> Guest78571: dragging and dropping off the dock space will remove them from the dock
[01:32] <ClayG> geirha, looking for an application but that is a good idea, thanks for your suggestion
[01:32] <zzzed__> !jack | ClayG
[01:33] <maco> NewBuntu: install the kubuntu-desktop package
[01:33] <maco> NewBuntu: either "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" or use synaptic or whatever
[01:33] <dclake> I am missing the text box for twitter posts in the menu
[01:33] <ClayG> zzzed__, installing now
[01:33] <Guest78571> [thor]  yea but how to move them on the dock.. rearrange the order?
[01:34] <yowshi> how do i turn alt + ctrl + backspace back on?
[01:34] <Guest78571> [thor] some move and some dont
[01:34] <dclake> can anyone help
[01:34] <geirha> ClayG: That's what we did in the old days anyway :)
[01:34] <[thor]> Guest78571: some are dock applets, some are program helpers, and some are shortcuts
[01:34] <zzzed__> yowshi, try alt+sysreq+k
[01:35] <yowshi> zzzed__: whats sysreq?
[01:35] <[thor]> Guest78571: they can only be arranged in their major groups.. so shortcuts will appear on the left, applets in the middle, and helpers on the right
[01:35] <dominicdinada> ok sorry had to go do something but i don't see anything that looks like a zombie. could SSH or Samba or Webmin or whatever be a zombie ? i will pastebin my results to check
[01:35] <cromag> what happens if i set a resolution which is not suitable for my screen and press apply ? - will it come back after x seconds if i dont hit "ok" or somthing ? or will it write to the xorg conf and
[01:35] <zzzed__> yowshi, its the print screen button
[01:35] <geirha> yowshi: One of those keys in the top right of the keyboard, that you never/rarely use.
[01:35] <dclake> I seem to be missing one of the social media features in the panel
[01:35] <ClayG> how can i capture the sound that i am hearing through my laptops speakers?
[01:36] <dominicdinada> hmmm now when running top it shows 0 zombie processes
[01:37] <Scrumps> Alright, so, I seem to be running into issues with torrent clients, samba, and fileshares.  I am trying to get Ktorrent/utorrent (wine), and transmission to save all the torrents it downloads on a file share under a windows file system. It can see the share, open the share, but it can't create any files or directories. I don
[01:37] <Scrumps> t know what is wrong.
[01:37] <LibertyZero> ClayG: http://www.moritzmolch.de/2010/06/26/capturing-pulseaudio-output-to-file/
[01:38] <Scrumps> I have the share mounted under /mnt/samba/
[01:38] <pseudosmart> I am running 10.04 on a sony vaio VPCF115FM, and my desktop is bigger than my screen, no matter what resolution I try. Any suggestions?
[01:38] <ClayG> LibertyZero, trying sound recorder way but will try that after ~ http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4391051&postcount=3
[01:38] <dominicdinada> Scrumps: I think torrent and other filesharing is off topic here
[01:38] <jMyles> If anybody is keen with iptables, can you look at my rules and tell me why I am not forwarding packets properly? http://pastebin.com/mbVGzZbN
[01:38] <Scrumps> It automounts using fstab and the login details that point to the share are for the Administrator, so it shouldn't have any issue being aable to create a folder or files.
[01:38] <Izinucs> !rez | pseudosmart
[01:39] <Izinucs> !resolution | pseudosmart
[01:39] <pseudosmart>  !rez?
[01:40] <dclake> has anyone lost the social menu in ubuntu or how to restore it?
[01:40] <dominicdinada> !samba | scrumps
[01:40] <jefinc> I loaded ubuntu netbook edition onto a LGX120 and it is extremely slow, any suggestions?
[01:40] <dominicdinada> dclake: ubuntu one you mean ?
[01:41] <dclake> you know the menu with your status and you can tweet from it
[01:41] <dclake> that one
[01:41] <tt33l3r> Having a problem with "Keep Aligned" setting on gnome changing back to set on every reboot. Anyone know how to fix this?
[01:41] <Scrumps> dominicdinada, I don't see anything about torrents/filesharing being against the channel rules or code of conduct on the wiki.
[01:41] <jMyles> dclake: Sounds like gwibber stopped on you
[01:41] <pseudosmart> Well, I restarted X, but no dice
[01:41] <dominicdinada> dclake: no i don't know that one. I don't tweeter
[01:42] <jMyles> dclake: You can run it again from applications -=> internet
[01:42] <jefinc> dclake: if you right click on the panel and click on add, the one you are looking for is "Indicator Applet Session"
[01:42] <pseudosmart> and I have tried xrandr to add resolutions, but that hasn't worked either
[01:42] <Izinucs> Scrumps: it's not.. and really your question deals with samba.. but most likely it might be a windows issue since you can see the windows share but can't save..
[01:42] <savid> Hi, I need to check in some code with svn,  and I'm getting this:   "Password for '(null)' GNOME keyring:" .    I've never seen it before, and my normal password does not work with it.  What's causing this?
[01:42] <dclake> gwibber is running but I still dont have the box for my posts
[01:42] <pseudosmart> should I purchase the support from canonincal to figure this out? Is it worth it?
[01:42] <jefinc> dclake: see above ^^
[01:43] <pseudosmart> nobody on the forums has been able to figure it out either
[01:43] <jMyles> pseudosmart: I have no idea, but I'm curious about your issue.  What do you mean "too big"?
[01:43] <Josesordo> What is more cute or beatiful: Emerald or GTK Windows decorator?
[01:43] <Izinucs> pseudosmart: could be that the wrong driver is loaded for your card.. what do you have?
[01:44] <pseudosmart> the screen is cut off on the right side and the bottom of the display
[01:44] <pseudosmart> so I don't see the panel at the bottom of the screen, and the right side of the top panel is cut off
[01:44] <Scrumps> Izinucs, well, that is what I thought... so, I set the permissions for the drive temporarily to "Everyone" and then tried again, it still didn't work. So, that is why I came here, but, I will try samba.
[01:44] <dclake> I reloaded the indicator applet session b ut it does not have the text box
[01:45] <savid> I'm aslo getting "Error communicating with gnome-keyring-daemon" when trying to run seahorse.  Any idea what's going on here?
[01:45] <jefinc> dclake: have you tried logging off/on ?
[01:45] <dclake> yeah ..and rebooting
[01:45] <Izinucs> Scrumps: drive permissions on the windows machine probably isn't the issue.. it's more in line with it's internal permissions.. win pro is easier.. win home isn't
[01:46] <Scrumps> Izinucs, it is Windows Server 2008 R2.
[01:46] <jefinc> dclake: you could try restarting X since reloading the indicator applet sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[01:46] <Scrumps> Owernship of the drive, sharing, and file permissions are set to Everyone.
[01:46] <dclake> ok
[01:46] <dclake> trying
[01:46] <Izinucs> Scrumps: ah.. then there should be an easy way to do this.. check in ##windows.
[01:47] <Izinucs> Scrumps: might also be that you need to add the server name to samba as a valid user
[01:47] <savid> Anyone have any idea?  I really need to check in this code...
[01:48] <Scrumps> Izinucs, what do you mean? Add the server name to samba? Under the samba config file?
[01:48] <dclake> that didnt work
[01:48] <maco> savid: kill the seahorse-agent and just let normal ssh-agent handle it?
[01:49] <Izinucs> Scrumps: if you added samba to your system and not just smbfs then typically samba has it's own method of registering users and passwords.. first thing you should do is add yourself as the user on the machine...
[01:49] <MarkSS> hey all
[01:49] <Scrumps> Izinucs, smbfs is installed and added.
[01:49] <pseudosmart> Does anyone have any thoughts on whether or not the canonical $140 support is worth it, I haven't been able to find a solution to my problem here or in the forums?
[01:50] <Izinucs> Scrumps: this might help https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[01:50] <dclake> I have the menu but not the text box
[01:50] <poi77> pseudosmart: what is the issue
[01:51] <pseudosmart> my desktop is bigger than my screen, so it is cut off on the right side and the bottom
[01:51] <pseudosmart> I have tried installing proprietary NVIDIA drivers, I have tried xrandr, but nothing seems to work
[01:51] <Scrumps> So... I should try replacing smbfs with cifs?
[01:52] <dominicdinada> pseudosmart: have you tried adjusting your monitor :O
[01:52] <Scrumps> As my current fstab folder looks like that exactly, except I am using smbfs instead of cifs.
[01:52] <Izinucs> pseudosmart: ah ha.. did the nvidia drivers install totally and correctly? if so you might also install nvidia-settings.. go there and set the resolution
[01:52] <HermanDE> anybody know of Openssh supports dns srv records?
[01:53] <poi77> pseudosmart: in my experience nvidia-settings works
[01:53] <Izinucs> HermanDE: in /etc/ssh/sshd_config there is a line at the bottom about dns.. check it out
[01:53] <savid> marco, nope -- still doesn't work.  Any other ideas?  How can I just make SVN use normal authentication?   It's always worked for me before -- just all of the sudden stopped working
[01:53] <Fendaril> man how do you get the xterm menu
[01:53] <MarkSS> I restarted my computer and now I am asked to start with low graphics mode and when I hit okay it takes me to a set of menus.  Nothing in those menus will fix my problem though.  What can I do?
[01:53] <savid> maco ^
[01:53] <pseudosmart> is nvidia-settings an application I can install? I'm kind of new at this
[01:54] <geirha> Fendaril: xterm doesn't have a menu
[01:54] <HermanDE> Izinucs, Thanks.
[01:54] <Izinucs> pseudosmart: yes.. sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings.. then you'll find it in system>Admin>Nvidia something
[01:54] <Fendaril> geirha:so you cannot ctr+right-click to get a menu of configuration in ubuntu?
[01:54] <maco> savid: try hitting ctrl+alt+f1 and checking it in from there
[01:54] <maco> savid: it wont be able to try to use gnome stuff then
[01:54] <jefinc> I loaded ubuntu netbook edition onto a LGX120 and it is extremely slow, any suggestions?
[01:55] <dougb_freebsd> pseudosmart: open the ubuntu software center and search for nvidia-settings
[01:55] <geirha> Fendaril: Never heard of that key-binding. What programs does that work on?
[01:56] <pseudosmart> well, I installed it, but I don't see it in system>Admin menu
[01:56] <savid> maco, ah, why didn't I think of that :-/   thanks!
[01:57] <dougb_freebsd> pseudosmart: open up a terminal and type nvidia-seettings
[01:57] <geirha> Fendaril: Oh, I get a menu with uxterm. Interesting.
[01:57] <pksadiq> Type sudo
[01:57] <pksadiq> then nvidia-settings
[01:58] <dougb_freebsd> you usually don't have to use sudo for nvidia-settings
[01:58] <dougb_freebsd> but if it doesn't work as a regular user that's worth trying
[01:58] <baba> do I need to do this with Ubuntu: -A INPUT -m state –state NEW -m tcp -p tcp –dport 22 -j ACCEPT
[01:59] <Fableflame> Is there a way to password protect particular folders in Ubuntu?
[01:59] <Fendaril> geirha:my book said that it would work
[01:59] <Fendaril> geirha: its genral and not distro specific tho
[01:59] <pksadiq> Change the owner to root
[01:59] <geirha> Fendaril: It works with uxterm, but not with xterm for some reason.
[01:59] <Fendaril> geirha:what are the steps you took to get a menu
[02:00] <MarkSS> I restarted my computer and now I am asked to start with low graphics mode and when I hit okay it takes me to a set of menus.  Nothing in those menus will fix my problem though.  What can I do?
[02:00] <geirha> Fendaril: Alt+f2 -> «uxterm» -> Ctrl+ left/right click
[02:00] <Fableflame> Is there a way to password protect particular folders in Ubuntu?
[02:01] <Fendaril> geirha:whats the difference between xterm and uterm
[02:01] <geirha> Fendaril: u for unicode
[02:02] <Freeaqingme> How do I heat my laptop using ubuntu? would like it to be a little warmer here...
[02:02] <jefinc> Freeaqingme: watch a movie in flash, it's a pig
[02:02] <Freeaqingme> :P
[02:02] <Freeaqingme> I was hoping for some cli command
[02:02] <Fendaril> what does the x in term stand for geirha
[02:03] <jrib> Freeaqingme: cpuburn
[02:03] <geirha> Fendaril: the x stands for X :P
[02:03] <Freeaqingme> jrdnyquist, tnx
[02:03] <Freeaqingme> jrib, tnx
[02:03] <DIL> lo
[02:03] <sukuri> Try to use your graphics card, too, those can get pretty warm
[02:03] <geirha> Fendaril: ''apropos xterm''
[02:03] <Brutal_Donut> 2 words: hot coffee
[02:03] <Brutal_Donut> just dump it everywhere
[02:05] <KE1HA> Fableflame, look into using dm-crypt, cryptsetup and LUKS for your encryption needs.
[02:05] <Fableflame> KE1HA, thanks, I'll look into it
[02:06] <blarget2> linux port?
[02:06] <blarget2> sorry for being stupif
[02:06] <blarget2> stupid
[02:06] <Scrumps> What is the command to list permission settings for a folder?
[02:06] <Scrumps> + and files?
[02:06] <blarget2> what games are compadible with ubuntu?
[02:06] <sukuri>  Brutal_Donut: you get the bonus of being able to sue for incorrect labeling on the use of coffee, too!
[02:07] <mickster04> blarget2: with W.I.N.E, lots of games
[02:07] <blarget2> oh true
[02:07] <maco> Scrumps: ls -l
[02:07] <blarget2> fake bios
[02:07] <blarget2> lol
[02:07] <sukuri> blarget2: Unreal Tournament 2k4 is one that's natively compatible. There's also the entire games repository in "Ubuntu Software Center"
[02:07] <blarget2> well should descent be in ubunto?
[02:07] <mickster04> blarget2: check out the software center
[02:07] <blarget2> ill go check
[02:08] <edbian> blarget2, Most games today are developed for microsoft windows (because they dominate the market share)
[02:08] <blarget2> yes i know that
[02:08] <mickster04> edbian: lots of games arent, mostly indie though
[02:09] <mickster04> blarget2: world of goo is on linux
[02:09] <edbian> mickster04, :)  Tell blarget2 :)
[02:09] <blarget2> i cant find out if this is supported D:
[02:09] <kisuke> how would i defragment  a ntfs partition on ubuntu?
[02:09] <sukuri> blarget2: what is "this"?
[02:09] <blarget2> it would be better if i linked you hold on
[02:09] <mickster04>  lots of games arent developed for windows, mostly indie though
[02:09] <blarget2> http://www.minerwars.com/?aid=1215
[02:09] <blarget2> would this count?
[02:10] <blarget2> its indie ish
[02:10] <blarget2> i was thinking of ditching vista for soemthing stable
[02:10] <blarget2> but i also want to get this
[02:10] <sukuri> oh goodness, my netbook, it can't handle it!
[02:10] <blarget2> lol
[02:11] <mickster04> blarget2: not natively no
[02:11] <boywonder> hi please: im trying to instll a package and im getting error cannot find glib?
[02:11] <Flomaster> having trouble with samba I installed it and edited my config file but can't seem to get it started
[02:11] <blarget2> grr
[02:11] <blarget2> ill go bug the dev's to make it native
[02:12] <mickster04> blarget2: good luck with that, it uses directx which isnt used in ubuntu#
[02:12] <blarget2> though, are you guys intrested in 6dof type of games?
[02:12] <blarget2> oh right
[02:12] <kkathman> I should know what this is...but apparently I've hidden the menu in the terminal app...what's that key combo to get it back?
[02:12] <blarget2> linux is opengl
[02:12] <blarget2> :/
[02:12] <blarget2> i guess i HAVE to go wit hwine
[02:12] <blarget2> or just duel boot
[02:13] <DonaldShimoda> blarget2, nothing to do with opengl
[02:13] <DonaldShimoda> linux <> windows architecture
[02:13] <KE1HA> boywonder, how are you trying to install the program? are you building it, or using apt /pkg mgr?
[02:13] <boywonder> im going to build it
[02:13] <boywonder> i think glib is a test app?
[02:13] <Scrumps> Izinucs, thinking about file permissions, could the problem with the /mnt/samba/ file space be the ownership of the folder?
[02:13] <DonaldShimoda> boywonder, glib is a library
[02:14] <KE1HA> boywonder, do: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:14] <DonaldShimoda> install glib-dev
[02:14] <DonaldShimoda> boywonder, let me check it
[02:14] <Izinucs> Scrumps: not sure. sorry
[02:14] <dmex> blarget2: try cedega
[02:14] <KE1HA> He's going to need other packages to build, so may as well install them initially and be done with.
[02:14] <Scrumps> Hm, alright.
[02:15] <blarget2> cedega?
[02:15] <blarget2> is that like wine?
[02:15] <DonaldShimoda> boywonder: sudo aptitude install libglib2.0-dev
[02:15] <Lalaland> If I have a samba share mounted in ext4, can I still acces it in windows xp without any extra drivers?
[02:15] <dmex> blarget2: yes but focused on gaming.
[02:15] <baba> where is /etc/sysconfig ??
[02:15] <digitalfiz> xnite invite anyone else to a channel?
[02:15] <DonaldShimoda> blarget2, cedega is wine with steroids
[02:15] <blarget2> awesome
[02:15] <blarget2> this wil be the future for me though, ima ware out mi vista till i cant do what i want it to do.
[02:16] <boywonder> im not doing anything yet that i dont understand!, i get this error from ./configure
[02:16] <mickster04> blarget2: windows 7 is worth it in my opiion
[02:16] <xxpor> im curious, I dont use either, but want to learn one, what advantage does screen have over tmux
[02:16] <DonaldShimoda> boywonder: sudo aptitude install libglib2.0-dev
[02:16] <Fableflame> Why is Ubuntu saying that my Mp3 player has 0 bytes available, and 0 bytes used??
[02:16] <kkathman> I should know what this is...but apparently I've hidden the menu in the terminal app...what's that key combo to get it back?
[02:17] <DonaldShimoda> boywonder, what dont you get then?
[02:17] <kisuke> Fableflame, what mp3 player is it?
[02:17] <kisuke> kkathman, try alt
[02:17] <Fableflame> Some generic I got for 20 bucks
[02:17] <kkathman> kisuke, alt what?
[02:17] <edbian> Fableflame, Is the .Trash folder empty?
[02:17] <kisuke> Fableflame, brand?
[02:17] <Fableflame> But I was in the middle of transferring files when it suddenly told me I had 0 of 0
[02:17] <boywonder> why its asking me for a libary
[02:18] <kisuke> kkathman, alt shouold show the menu bar
[02:18] <KE1HA> boywonder, becasue you dont have all the deps met to use ./configure
[02:18] <kkathman> kisuke nope it doesnt--- not just by itself
[02:18] <Fableflame> edbian: trash is not empty kisuke: idk, the icon on it is faded
[02:18] <edbian> Fableflame, empty the trash.  That's likely the problem.
[02:18] <boywonder> deps?
[02:18] <edbian> Fableflame, If something is in the trash folder it's still on the device.
[02:19] <boywonder> thats visable
[02:19] <DonaldShimoda> boywonder: sudo aptitude install libglib2.0-dev
[02:19] <kkathman> kisuke this is the terminal app by the way
[02:19] <DonaldShimoda> boywonder, ??????
[02:19] <boywonder> ok
[02:19] <KE1HA> boywonder, do: sudo apt-get -y install build-essential  .. then do ./configure again.
[02:19] <DonaldShimoda> boywonder, finally... 5 times i have to write the same...
[02:19] <Fableflame> edbian: I emptied the Trash, it still says I have 0 of 0
[02:19] <Lalaland> Anyone know if the partition type of where a samba share is stored matters?
[02:19] <nophis> Hi. I have an external disk connected through an USB 2.0 port to my laptop. When I copy large files to the external disk, the speed starts at ~25mb/s and after some seconds, the speed slow with time until it be about ~3mb/s. Anyone here expected the same problem and know a solution/workaround for this issue?
[02:20] <mickster04> Fableflame: is it still connected?
[02:20] <edbian> Fableflame, Hmmm.  Odd. what does df -h say about it?
[02:20] <DonaldShimoda> Lalaland, in absolute
[02:20] <boywonder> thank you DonaldShimoda I THINK ILL USE THAT LIB
[02:20] <Fableflame> mickster04, yes edbian: okay, hold on
[02:20] <KE1HA> good luck
[02:20] <Fableflame> edbian: do I just run -h in the terminal?
[02:20] <Lalaland> nophis, what file type?
[02:20] <edbian> Fableflame, df -h    yes
[02:20] <DonaldShimoda> nophis, stop anyother task on diskbefore start it
[02:21] <nophis> DonaldShimoda, I'm doing just this operation, no md5sum checks, neither other move copy operation
[02:21] <boywonder> KE1HA its hard being new and trying to take advice from two people, ????
[02:21] <Fableflame> edbian: /dev/sda2             112G   70G   43G  63% /media/E03E39A03E397120
[02:21] <nophis> Lalaland, movie file (8gb)
[02:21] <PeterT> how do I format the ubuntu partition to NTFS?
[02:21] <Fableflame> says there is 43G still available
[02:22] <edbian> Fableflame, That sounds much more believeable.  IS that correct?  What app is reporting that it's full?
[02:22] <kisuke> PeterT, do you want to keep ubuntu?
[02:22] <Fableflame> edbian: right clicking and selecting properties
[02:22] <PeterT> kisuke: obviously not
[02:22] <edbian> Fableflame, Oh who cares what that says! :)
[02:22] <PeterT> kisuke: no, I'm selling my laptop and would like to take it off :)
[02:22] <Fableflame> edbian: I do, because it won't let me transfer anything, because it says the device is full
[02:22] <kisuke> ues a live cd, run gparted and delete the ubuntu partition and make a new NTFS partition
[02:23] <edbian> Fableflame, Ahh, that's a bigger problem.
[02:23] <mickster04> Fableflame: have you tried taking it out and putting it back in?
[02:23] <Fableflame> mickster04, yes, to no avail
[02:23] <edbian> Fableflame, I'm having trouble figuring out why df -h reports correctly but the gui does not.
[02:23] <Fableflame> edbian: I have no idea. How to I format a device in Ubuntu?
[02:24] <edbian> Fableflame, You use gparted (app in the repos) but if you format a device you loose all the info currently on it.
[02:24] <Fableflame> wait wait wait
[02:24] <Fableflame> wait
[02:24] <Fableflame> I was wrong
[02:24] <mickster04> lol
[02:24] <Fableflame> I was looking at the wrong readout
[02:24] <mickster04> :D
[02:24] <Fableflame> /dev/sdh1             990M  990M     0 100% /media/42E0-7C24
[02:24] <Fableflame> that's the readout for my mp3 player
[02:24] <edbian> Fableflame, Ahhh!! There's the ticket.
[02:25] <mickster04> Fableflame: its full
[02:25] <edbian> Fableflame, Now, this might seem stupid, is it full?
[02:25] <xxpor> Fableflame: sdH? how much space do you have lol?
[02:25] <N0px> join #backtrack
[02:25] <edbian> xxpor, It's an external music player
[02:25] <edbian> N0px, almost!
[02:25] <Fableflame> edbian: It shouldn't be xxpor: it's just a 1 gig mp3 player
[02:25] <xxpor> edbian: I know, that means you have 7 other disks though
[02:25] <mickster04> Fableflame: Thats not much
[02:26] <edbian> Fableflame, Have you used the disc analyzer
[02:26] <Fableflame> but under properties it says 0 used
[02:26] <edbian> xxpor, At one point.  They could be flash drives
[02:26] <edbian> Fableflame, How much do you think is used on it?
[02:26] <N0px> Can anyone help me with back track 4 i have a few noob questions
[02:26] <Fableflame> edbian: idk, but after I deleted everything on it it doesn't tell me 0 anymore
[02:26] <mickster04>  N0px just ask them
[02:26] <mickster04> Fableflame: what does it say then?
[02:27] <kisuke> N0px, type "/join #backtrack"
[02:27] <Fableflame> but someting is using 932.4 mbs
[02:27] <xxpor> edbian: I have never really played with it, will ubuntu remeber usb drives and preserve their sdx location?
[02:27] <Fableflame> I have no files on it, and something is taking up 932.4 megabytes
[02:27] <edbian> xxpor, IDK.  I think so.
[02:27] <edbian> Fableflame, The trash folder is empty?
[02:27] <mickster04> Fableflame: its all in .trasj
[02:27] <mickster04> Fableflame: its all in .trash
[02:28] <edbian> mickster04, That's what I though.
[02:28] <boodroscotch> Hey guys, just a little question. I'm on Lucid, and I've just installed FGLRX (for I am using an ATi) card, and I was wondering; can you remove the native xorg ati drivers safely after installing fglrx?
[02:28] <Fableflame> okay, I emptied trash again and I have more space now
[02:28] <edbian> Fableflame, There is a hidden trash folder on the / of the device.  It's called .Trash  You have to change a setting in nautilus to see it.
[02:28] <edbian> Fableflame, Which trash are you emptying?
[02:28] <Fableflame> Now only 264 MBs are being taken up
[02:29] <Fableflame> edbian: the trash in the bottom right corner of the desktop
[02:29] <edbian> Fableflame,  That's the trash on the computer.
[02:29] <edbian> Fableflame, There is a hidden .Trash folder on the device.
[02:29] <Fableflame> edbian: jeeeeez, how many trash cans do I need? How do I see that trash folder?
[02:29] <edbian> Fableflame, I am quite annoyed I had to say that twice.
[02:29] <edbian> Fableflame, view -> show hidden files
[02:30] <mickster04> Fableflame: go to the device in nautilis and type ctrl+h
[02:30] <magn3ts> How do I reinstall / such that it respects the existing /home that is on another drive?
[02:30] <kisuke> does anyone know how to defragment a NTFS partition in ubuntu?
[02:30] <edbian> Fableflame, Ubuntu will use a .Trash folder on every partition on every device that supports having one.
[02:30] <Fableflame> edbian: I got this "Unable to trash file: Invalid argument"
[02:30] <zzzed> kisuke, I don't think you can
[02:31] <metrahla> may ubuntu 10.10 be less system consumning?
[02:31] <kisuke> zzzed, well an answer is better than nothing thanks
[02:31] <metrahla> comparing with 10.04
[02:31] <Blue1> metrahla: big changes in 10.10
[02:31] <mickster04> Fableflame: try shift delete?
[02:31] <mickster04> Blue1: such as?
[02:32] <Blue1> mickster04: sizes will no longer be reported in binary - they will be reported in decimal
[02:32] <Fableflame> edbian, mickster04, ok they're gone, thanks
[02:32] <mickster04> Blue1: what?! thats stupid
[02:33] <Blue1> mickster04: welcome to shuttleworth's world
[02:33] <Blue1> mickster04: actually the mac already does that...
[02:34] <nogo> mac has lost
[02:34] <Blue1> mickster04: the VERY first thing I fixed on 10.04:  http://pkill-9.com/wordpress/?p=207
[02:34] <pie_time> i cant get my radar map to work for the weather panal applet in ubuntu
[02:35] <Blue1> pie_time: not all locations have radar
[02:35] <jamie_> My .conkyrc contains a line 'own_window_type desktop override' but when I click the desktop conky disappears (but it's still in 'top'...)
[02:35] <edbian> pie_time, My radar doesn't work either :(
[02:35] <pie_time> Blue1, this is in north america for pete's sake
[02:36] <metrahla> Blue1, may there be anything meaning, that i will become faster, or slower?
[02:36] <Blue1> pie_time: YMMV applies - NOT all locations have radar
[02:36] <pie_time> Blue1, but ive had radar in the past
[02:36] <edbian> pie_time, So have I :(
[02:36] <Blue1> pie_time: feeds go down all the time -- not a priority
[02:37] <delinquentme> is there a way to remove "open w open office" off of my ubuntu right click options?
[02:37] <Blue1> metrahla: guaydeque will come standard issue
[02:37] <petersteele111> hello
[02:37] <Blue1> delinquentme: not sure what you want to do.
[02:38] <kisuke> delinquentme, uninstall openoffice?
[02:38] <metrahla> Blue1, what does that means?
[02:38] <Blue1> metrahla: it means something that actually works, and has an eq in it
[02:38] <CompuTom> Which chat can I use for C++ programming for Ubuntu10.04?
[02:38] <petersteele111> is there a chat for python programming?
[02:39] <andrewl> try doing a /list and looking around
[02:39] <pie_time> #python
[02:39] <petersteele111> alright
[02:39] <Blue1> petersteele111: type o fan?
[02:39] <agus> hi
[02:39] <Scrumps> I seem to have an issue with a mounted file system being mounted four times: http://pastebin.com/L1xfbUSs
[02:39] <petersteele111> nope thats my legal name
[02:40] <Scrumps> How can I get rid of it?
[02:40] <delinquentme> blue1, kisuke  nah just dont want it as an option on the right click of a selected file
[02:40] <petersteele111> python
[02:40] <jamie_> Anybody for conky help?  #conky is dead
[02:40] <Scrumps> umount -f /mnt/samba and umount -l /mnt/samba didn't work.
[02:40] <pie_time>  petersteele111 /join #python
[02:40] <agus> can I upgrade ubuntu karmic 32 bit to 64 bit?
[02:40] <Blue1> delinquentme: only way I know of is to remove oo - but that's usually unwise
[02:40] <petersteele111> im irish and scottish and named after my dad. so steele just is a family name and i took his first name of peter
[02:40] <delinquentme> hurrrmmmshish ... thnx
[02:41] <Blue1> petersteele111: ahh i just know the name from type o negative
[02:41] <petersteele111> thanks pie i found some im just waiting to go in in a min
[02:41] <mickster04> agus: do you have a 64 bit computer?
[02:41] <petersteele111> yeah. Thats where most people know the name from
[02:41] <mickster04> !ot
[02:42] <Blue1> pie_time: well first you have to determine if your machine is 64 bit
[02:42] <pie_time> Blue1, why?
[02:42] <agus> yes, I installed ubuntu 32 bit to 64 bit computer
[02:42] <mickster04> agus: then why not?
[02:42] <nogo> what?
[02:42] <Blue1> because you can't run 64 bit on a 32 bit system
[02:42] <jamie_> agus he wants to know if he can upgrade to 64 (I think he already has 32 installed)
[02:42] <mickster04> agus: oh wait upgrade?
[02:42] <Blue1> pie_time: try this:  if grep -q ' lm ' /proc/cpuinfo; then echo "is 64 bits"; else "No luck  :("; fi
[02:43] <agus> how to install using terminal
[02:43] <mickster04> agus: no that wont work as for installing from terminal sudo apt-get
[02:43] <Blue1> agus: upgrade NOT recommended
[02:43] <edbian> agus has 32 bit Ubuntu installed on 64 bit hardware.  He wants to upgrade to 64 bit OS
[02:43] <kisuke> !apt |agus
[02:43] <pie_time> Blue1, i dont know what you're talking about
[02:44] <agus> so there is no way beside reinstall with 64 bit?
[02:44] <mickster04> agus: you will have to reinstall to change from 32 to 64 bit
[02:44] <Blue1> pie_time: sorry that was from agus
[02:44] <mickster04> agus: no
[02:44] <Blue1> agus do:  if grep -q ' lm ' /proc/cpuinfo; then echo "is 64 bits"; else "No luck  :("; fi
[02:44] <Josesordo> How I change the Login Screen in Ubuntu 10.04?
[02:44] <jamie_> agus - the best way to do it is to backup/reinstall anyway - needs new kernel, etc, etc.
[02:44] <Blue1> jamie_: you just need to backup /etc/ and /home/ and should be gtg
[02:45] <Scrumps> What command can I use to unmount all filesystems? As umount -f and umount -a is not working on the filesystems that are needing to be unmounted?
[02:46] <agus> ok, thanks.
[02:46] <jamie_> Blue1 I like clean installs, what can I say... Personally, I'd use the alternate install CD if it would boot on my machine :-/
[02:46] <jamie_> So anybody for helping me with a conky line?
[02:47] <Fableflame> What can I do to access my cousin's Ubuntu desktop from my own?
[02:47] <kisuke> ok, can some one help me figure out why ext4 is now the default FS?
[02:47] <fruitwerks> I am trying to install from usb, but I get to locating the cdrom step and it fails.. what is the workaround?
[02:47] <petersteele111> weird it wont let me join #python? I can join ##python but not the first one?
[02:47] <kisuke> petersteele111, i dont #python exists
[02:48] <jamie_> No Conky help?  Alright, I'll try back in a few hours
[02:48] <kisuke> fruitwerks, how did you make your live USB?
[02:48] <mickster04>  Fableflame well if the routers are both set up and he has sshd installed and running alls you need to do is type in ssh into your terminal for textual command line control
[02:48] <rww> petersteele111: It's limited to registered users. See the instructions ubottu's about to give you.
[02:48] <petersteele111> i dont know it pops up with 836 users?
[02:48] <rww> ubottu: register | petersteele111
[02:48] <petersteele111> ah ok
[02:48] <pie_time> jamie_,
[02:48] <fruitwerks> kisuke: I downloaded the iso and used the program sugegsted on the website
[02:48] <jamie_> pie_time aye?
[02:48] <pie_time> jamie_, i need conky help
[02:48] <bosco> hey i used  ""devede"" to burn an iso dvd file and i burned it to a dvd and now it is telling me that it wont play in my dvd due to ""area Limitations"" i know what that means just how to i fix that ?????
[02:48] <jamie_> pie_time what's your issue?
[02:48] <kisuke> fruitwerks, weird
[02:49] <fruitwerks> bosco: probably need to set the region in the burning app
[02:49] <Blue1> bosco: I've had problems with that - try re-burning the iso onto a CD and NOT a dvd.  shouldn't matter, but it does.
[02:49] <bosco> fruitwerks, didnt have one lol
[02:49] <pie_time> i have no clue how to get the conky thing to work with config files
[02:50] <Fableflame> rww: umm, I have registered my nick here, and it won't let me join. . .
[02:50] <fruitwerks> I pointed it to /dev/sdc1 - but that didn't work, and busybox isn't horribly helpful
[02:50] <rww> Fableflame: You're not identified with nickserv.
[02:50] <jamie_> pie_time you have to create a .conkyrc file in your home dir (in a terminal do 'cd ~' then 'touch .conkyrc' then 'sudo gedit .conkyrc' and paste your code in there.
[02:50] <rww> Fableflame: /msg nickserv help identify
[02:50] <Fableflame> rww: i thought that was automatic?
[02:50] <kisuke> Fableflame, are you signed in right now?
[02:51] <deevz> is there a way to change the print interface in ubuntu? the default one cant do what I need
[02:51] <rww> Fableflame: not if you don't properly set up your client to identify automatically
[02:51] <deevz> and no matter which program I try to print with, its the same print interface
[02:51] <Blue1> deevz: what do you mean by "print interface?"
[02:51] <deevz> the window that is brought up when you click on "print" for an image
[02:52] <mickster04> deevz: no, what do you need it to do?
[02:52] <Blue1> deevz: not that I am aware of....that's pretty standard...you just don't like it, or it doesn't work?
[02:52] <mickster04> deevz: i mean of course you can, but its a faff
[02:52] <jamie_> pie_touch try http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=867076&highlight=conky and it's related links on the first post
[02:52] <deevz> it cant even rotate the image...
[02:52] <fruitwerks> what alternate boot-from-usb methods are there? I have a windows machine and a linux machine handy right now
[02:53] <Blue1> deevz: what programme are you trying to use to rotate an image?
[02:53] <mickster04> deevz: well im sure you can set landscape or portraint
[02:53] <deevz> doesnt work
[02:53] <pie_time> jamie_, how much resources does conky use
[02:53] <ring0> i'm using 10.04 with lvm and luks. boot is on a separate usb-stick, which actually works like a charm. now, i came back from a 10 day vacation and the system wouldn't start from the stick, until i used a live-cd and chroot with grub-install. i shut down the system correctly, any ideas how this could have happened? does flash memory have problems when not in use?
[02:53] <deevz> oh well nm, image viewer can rotate and it affects the print model
[02:53] <Blue1> deevz: could you be more specific, what doesn't work?
[02:53] <mickster04> deevz: well rotate it in the image program
[02:54] <deevz> its all good now
[02:54] <deevz> solved the problem
[02:54] <mickster04> Blue1: it doesnt have the functionality to change wether it prints in portrait or landscape aooarently
[02:54] <deevz> thats right
[02:54] <jamie_> pie_time: mine right now is using.... lemme see... 2%cpu (on a C2D e8400 OCed to 3.6) and 0% ram  --  good luck :-)  And be careful - it can get addicting getting it all customized XD
[02:54] <Blue1> mickster04: I don't know about the image viewer - but other programmes like gimp do.
[02:55] <cablop> i got an stupid problem
[02:55] <mickster04> Blue1: i thought it did too
[02:55] <jamie_> cablop: don't we all XD
[02:55] <mickster04> cablop: well tell us in detail about it an maybe we can help
[02:55] <deevz> oh wow, it printed like it is an A1 paper
[02:55] <deevz> that sucks
[02:55] <TiK> jamie_: how do I know what to overclock too without frying my computer :)
[02:55] <fruitwerks> what is the codename for the current stable?
[02:55] <fruitwerks> (server)
[02:55] <mickster04> deevz: what orogram are you using?
[02:55] <cablop> using the liveCd ubuntu detects my wireless device, i installed it, but now my ubuntu does not detect it! :(
[02:55] <mickster04> fruitwerks: 10.04
[02:56] <dougb_freebsd> TiK: just say no to overclocking
[02:56] <fruitwerks> mickster04: yeah - but what is the release name, as found here http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/
[02:56] <jamie_> TiK try www.overclock.net that's where I learned the ropes (depends on your MB, NB, CPU (type, revision, and serial number) and your FSB if you're intel)
[02:56] <dougb_freebsd> it rarely gives you an actually useful performance benefit, and it can damage your system in hard-to-detect ways
[02:56] <mickster04> fruitwerks: Lucid
[02:56] <deevz> whats an orogram mickster84?
[02:56] <deevz> program, im dumb
[02:56] <deevz> im on imageviewer
[02:57] <TiK> jamie_: yeah Im using  an intel certrino hm Ill check it out
[02:57] <mickster04> deevz: oh ok.
[02:57] <jamie_> Extraclassic: yay! You're here!  maybe you can help me real quick...
[02:57] <deevz> fuck this
[02:57] <deevz> ima relog into windows
[02:57] <maco> TiK: something most people dont know about overclocking if they havent taken a computer architecture class is that higher clockspeeds = more missed instructions
[02:57] <cablop> how can i make ubuntu detect my wireless device? live cd does... but installed system won't... :(
[02:57] <jamie_> TiK: I would not recommend it with a centrino, but ask around on OCN (overclock.net) and they'll know more than I do
[02:57] <mickster04> deevz: try instaling something like gimp, its much more powerfull
[02:57] <maco> !language | deevz
[02:58] <deevz> mickster: seems like its the print interface that is limited
[02:58] <deevz> gimp wouldnt help
[02:58] <maco> TiK: also, centrino isnt a CPU
[02:58] <deevz> the size scaling doesnt even work
[02:58] <extraclassic> jamie_: it's possible
[02:58] <maco> TiK: its basically a marketing word....its a bundle of whatever intel's latest cpu is along with an intel chipset and gpu
[02:58] <mickster04> deevz: well gimo would do all that
[02:58] <jamie_> maco: run orthos for 24 hrs and you get ram check and cpu ;-)
[02:59] <kisuke> any one here dual boot win7 and *nix?
[02:59] <kisuke> opps sorry MT
[02:59] <mickster04> deevz: what about the other tabs, like page setup:P
[02:59] <Jordan_U> !anyone | kisuke
[02:59] <jamie_> extraclassic: My .conkyrc contains a line 'own_window_type desktop override' but when I click the desktop conky disappears (but it's still in 'top'...) Any known issues?  it's Conky 1.8.0
[03:00] <fruitwerks> trying a netboot.. thanks all
[03:00] <deevz> oh wow mickster
[03:00] <extraclassic> jamie_: the lines need to say "own_window yes" and "own_window_type override"
[03:00] <kisuke> Jordan_U, yes you know how to (ab)use the bot how about reading the whole comment next?
[03:00] <deevz> thats weird how the paper type is set up at two different places, looks like a misconception
[03:00] <mickster04> deevz: sheesh
[03:00] <deevz> but it should solve it
[03:00] <deevz> thx
[03:01] <mickster04> deevz: well done on looking yourself first....
[03:01] <jamie_> extraclassic - it worked until I shutdown and powered on after dinner - if I just do override then other windows go underneath it (basically its always on top)
[03:01] <Josesordo> How I change the Login Screen in Ubuntu 10.04?
[03:02] <mickster04> !gdm
[03:02] <jamesw> how can i view someone's ssh session live?
[03:02] <kisuke> !gnome | Josesordo
[03:03] <Scrumps> Is there not a graphical firewall interface in 1.0.04?
[03:03] <Baxnie> i wanna install boost 1.42, but using build versions from repository, how can i find the repository that contains it?
[03:03] <sigmab3ta> hey guys; i'd like to use svn to pull a revision that isn't the newest, what is the command for that?
[03:04] <extraclassic> jamie_: i'm not sure...go to these sites - http://conky.sourceforge.net/config_settings.html, http://conky.sourceforge.net/variables.html
[03:04] <zzzed> Scrumps, firestarter
[03:04] <jamie_> extraclassic google is of no help to me at this point, and #conky is non existent :-/   .... maybe I should see if anyone is in #crunchbang...?
[03:04] <dougb_freebsd> sigmab3ta: svn co -r
[03:04] <jamie_> extraclassic - alright, thanks for the links - much appreciated :-)  Later, mate
[03:04] <dougb_freebsd> you'll have to fill in a revision number of course
[03:05] <TiK> maco: there is a sticker that says "intel centrino" inside if its not a CPU what is it
[03:05] <pie_time> dougb_freebsd, is freebsd as easy as ubuntu if you add gnome to it?
[03:06] <dougb_freebsd> pie_time: /join ##freebsd and I'll be glad to answer that, it's OT here
[03:06] <maco> TiK: like i already said, its the combination of intel's latest cpu, intel's latest chipset, and intel's latest gpu. it's a marketing term for that bundle
[03:06] <pie_time> dougb_freebsd, may i pm you
[03:06] <extraclassic> pie_time: ubuntu is probably easier cause of synaptic
[03:06] <dougb_freebsd> you'll get better more interesting answers in ##freebsd :)
[03:06] <maco> TiK: 4 years ago, "centrino" meant core duo and 3945 chipset / 945 gpu.  2 years ago it meant core 2 duo and 4965
[03:06] <Scrumps> zzzed, does firestarter have to be installed? As I don't see it in the System menu or Application menu.
[03:07] <pie_time> dougb_freebsd, i might get booed and hissed at for being a noob too
[03:07] <zzzed> Scrumps, yes it needs to be installed
[03:07] <Scrumps> Alright.
[03:07] <dougb_freebsd> nope, that channel is just as friendly as this one, if not as busy :)
[03:08] <TiK> maco: o
[03:08] <TiK> maco: well yahs its a core2 laptop ands its only 2.0
[03:09] <sigmab3ta> dougb_freebsd, thank you
[03:09] <dougb_freebsd> np
[03:09] <kisuke> what is the command to have dpkg configure a package?
[03:10] <Scrumps> zzzed, is there a different program? As apparently firestarter limits ICMP?
[03:10] <extraclassic> kisuke: i think it's dpkg -i [filename]
[03:11] <kisuke> extraclassic, its installed, just didnt configure because its dependencys configured after it did
[03:11] <zzzed> kisuke, dpkg --configure <pkgname>
[03:11] <kisuke> zzzed, ty
[03:12] <extraclassic> does anyone here use GnoMenu
[03:12] <zzzed> Scrumps, gufw
[03:16] <Josesordo> I cant find the GDM in my menu :(
[03:17] <Baxnie> i wanna install boost 1.42, but using build versions from repository, how can i find the repository that contains it?
[03:17] <Connor1> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNKZTVvgTjY
[03:19] <Soggystefan> Well, hey guys, I have some questions... I run Ubuntu on all my, and my friends' PCs. However, my primary computer is a 2010 Macbook Pro with the latest in MacOS (Snow Leopard, am I right?). How does the latest Ubuntu compare to Snow Leopard?
[03:19] <cablop> Soggystefan: that's up to you and your comparisson criteria
[03:20] <cablop> if what you want is freedom to choose options stick with ubuntu 8.04 or 8.10
[03:20] <Soggystefan> hmm
[03:20] <cablop> if you want new things and start learning a lot of ubuntu stuff again, ten go for lucid
[03:20] <Soggystefan> Would you suggest a VM?
[03:21] <kisuke> Soggystefan, what processor do you have?
[03:21] <baba> where is /etc/sysconfig ??
[03:22] <Soggystefan> Processor? I'm not very good with the finer points...
[03:23] <Soggystefan> I'll link you the computer info, though
[03:23] <cablop> Soggystefan: then... you'll end in the same problem as Google Chrome... lucid on VM just have two possible outcomes... one... it runs nice and well... or it will run retardedly bad... no intermediate point, but give it a try, you have a good Pc, and maybe it will run nice there
[03:23] <Josesordo> the ubuntu 10.04 dont have the GDM where I can change the login Screen Style.. :(
[03:23] <cablop> or, better.... Soggystefan, test it with the live cd...
[03:23] <Josesordo> !gdm
[03:23] <Soggystefan> hehe
[03:24] <extraclassic> Josesordo: you can change the login screen with Ailurus
[03:24] <nogo2> my cpu is called ctcp
[03:24] <nogo2> i just to poke smart asses for fun
[03:24] <Soggystefan> Well, my proccesor is an Intel Core 2 Duo
[03:24] <Soggystefan> er
[03:24] <Soggystefan> 2.66GHz Intel Core i7
[03:25] <kisuke> well looks like its reinstall time
[03:25] <Soggystefan> actually
[03:26] <cablop> Soggystefan: but the best way is a live cd, you can test your hardware also
[03:26] <Soggystefan> Does that just mean burning a disc? Or is it something else?
[03:27] <cablop> Soggystefan: a cd of course, download it from ubuntu
[03:27] <LinuxGuy2009> I just did a partial upgrade to 10.04.1 with the alternate CD and now I was trying to reinstall the nvidia driver but I cant seem to get gdm to stop like I used to do. Does "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" not work anymore?
[03:27] <Soggystefan> k
[03:27] <nogo2> 2.66g is a lame number. it's seen at about 7 years ago
[03:27] <Soggystefan> lol
[03:27] <cablop> LinuxGuy2009: try # sudo service gdm stop
[03:27] <Soggystefan> I dunno what I'm getting
[03:27] <Soggystefan> My parents got it for me as a gift.
[03:28] <Soggystefan> I'm only 13.
[03:28] <cablop> nogo... intel i7 lame? huh...
[03:28] <Josesordo> extraclassic: thx, I installed it..let me see
[03:28] <LinuxGuy2009> cablop: Ok. Was that a change that 10.04.1 introduced or why has it changed on my system?
[03:28] <cablop> wow, a 13 years old entering the geeky world
[03:28] <Soggystefan> One moment, I'm going to go find a disc.
[03:28] <Soggystefan> Hey, it's the age.
[03:28] <cablop> LinuxGuy2009: i don't know, they're changing the way services are being managed
[03:28] <Soggystefan> We're all Digital Natives, you could say.
[03:29]  * Soggystefan goes to find a disc
[03:29] <LinuxGuy2009> cablop: ok thank you
[03:29] <cablop> Soggystefan: yes, you guys don't know what a typewritter is
[03:29] <nogo2> do you notice? your cpu's external clock is too low
[03:29] <cablop> Soggystefan: if you have enough time and bandwidth then download the dvd iso, not the cd one, just cause the dvd has more packages and it's more useful
[03:32] <DjMortal> hola
[03:32] <cablop> hello
[03:32] <extraclassic> Josesordo: I could've been wrong man....I thought it was in there somewhere but I don't see it
[03:33] <Soggystefan> cablop: I've got a typewriter on my desk...  :P
[03:35] <Feynman> hello whats a good irc client for ubuntu?
[03:35] <extraclassic> Josesordo: these instructions work- http://linux-software-news-tutorials.blogspot.com/2010/05/change-boot-login-screen-in-ubuntu-1004.html
[03:35] <Soggystefan> I do believe
[03:35] <Soggystefan> empath works for irc
[03:35] <Feynman> i don't much care for the one in empathy.
[03:35] <cablop> Soggystefan: but i guess you got my point
[03:36] <Soggystefan> Hehe, yeah
[03:36] <Feynman> I'm using that at the moment.
[03:36]  * Soggystefan is now thoroughly pissed
[03:36] <Josesordo> extraclassic: Damn, I thougth that app could change login screen... but I tested it and didnt work, let me see your link now
[03:36] <Soggystefan> My computer keeps ejecting my disk
[03:36]  * Feynman hugs Sog
[03:37] <cablop> lol
[03:37] <Soggystefan> I need teh luv :(
[03:37] <slacker-> Hi guys, I'm trying to map a samba share to my windows 7 box via ssh tunneling. this all worked fine with XP by just forwarding port 139 and then stopping the local 'net server' and browsing to \\127.0.0.1\. Windows 7 however doesn't seem to like this
[03:38] <dougb_freebsd> Feynman: If you just want to do chatting, the client in pidgin is quite functional
[03:38] <Soggystefan> Hey, guys, do you think the disc would work better if I cracked it in half?
[03:38] <thiebaude> !xchat
[03:38] <Soggystefan> x|
[03:38] <cablop> slackeri think you are doing that the hard way... why tunneling via ssh server?
[03:39] <Soggystefan> If Ubuntu can use the Colloquy irc client, I'd suggest that. I very functional and prettyful on my mac.
[03:39] <Soggystefan> I find it very *
[03:39] <Sunderphon> is there an alternative to notify-osd around?
[03:39] <Sunderphon> The enforced expiry time (10 seconds for a 1 word notification? Really?) is quite constricting
[03:39] <cablop> grab an openvpn, install on your linux machine, your server or even your router then setup it to give a subset of your lan addresses, and then just connect the remote machine through the vpn as any other local machine, slacker
[03:40] <cablop> slackeri
[03:40] <ThomasB2k> Sunderphon, https://launchpad.net/notifyconf
[03:42] <Sunderphon> ThomasB2k: Does that actually change the enforced time limit? I've tried another config system and it didn't make a difference
[03:42] <wcGary83> please someone help me, when i setup a folder for sharing on my desktop computer in nautilus, why might i not be able to see it from a laptop on the same router?
[03:42] <wcGary83> do need to forward ports or something?
[03:42] <ThomasB2k> Sunderphon, yes it does
[03:43] <ThomasB2k> I just checked, I have it installed my self
[03:43] <iyoet> hi all... i'm running ubuntu 10.04 on Fujitsu Esprimo U9200. But got problem with the power... according to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-power-manager/+bug/489824 this is a bug. is there any solution???
[03:43] <metrahla> anyone knows this error?  DRM version 1.0 too old to support HyperZ, disabling.
[03:44] <Soggystefan> iyoet: whack it with a sledge hammer?
[03:44] <kisuke> metrahla, what did you get that on?
[03:44] <metrahla> kisuke, glxgears
[03:45] <Fendaril> How do you get the Vt fonts menu up
[03:45] <avi_> Hey folks, how might I go about replacing Nautilus with Thunar? It's dramatically faster and lighter, and I really don't need any of the features of a normal file browser save.. well, basic GUI file browsing. Is this possible to do in an easy way?
[03:45] <petersteele111> why is it when i installed Xubuntu 10.04 from an iso image it boots up with gnome as the desktop manager? I always thought xubuntu ran xfce4 by default?
[03:46] <petersteele111> i changed it over but was just curious
[03:46] <Fendaril> petersteele111: it is because GNOME is the default desktop enviromnet
[03:46] <Fendaril> petersteele111: I think there is an option to change it to something else
[03:46] <avi_> avi_ testing something
[03:47] <wcGary83> please help me I desperately need to stream movies over my network!
[03:47] <petersteele111> I just for whatever reason thought XFCE4 was the default dont know why
[03:47] <ikar> hello, how can i modify grub in ubuntu 10.04.1 ?
[03:47] <metrahla> kisuke, without dri , i get 1800 fps, if i had dri that whould be great, maybe it whould get a good frame rate
[03:47] <avi_> wcGary83: hey, I've managed to do that with SaMBa and SSHFS.
[03:47] <celliz> exit
[03:47] <celliz> quit
[03:47] <Fendaril> petersteele111: well now you know it's not
[03:47] <kisuke> metrahla, http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Glxgears_is_not_a_Benchmark
[03:47] <wcGary83> avi_ is there a good tutorial you used?
[03:47] <Sunderphon> ThomasB2k: I still can't change the expire time on notifications
[03:48] <Soggystefan> Gary, do you have the nessecary plugins for the type of movie-file-thingamijig?
[03:48] <avi_> wcGary83: Well, sshfs is dirt-simple. You literally only need install ssh on your computer, and then sshfs -o user@server:/path/to/remote /path/to/local
[03:48] <wcGary83> Soggystefan: I was thinking of trying to set up vlc for that, doesn't it specialize in that type of stuff?
[03:49] <avi_> wcGary83: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHFS would help you with the nitty gritty. I personally think that SaMBa is faster (and most def. more secure) than SSHFS. But i'm trying to use SSHFS as i couldn't figure out how to get samba to auto-mount on login. :D
[03:50] <Soggystefan> Does it? It probably does, I'm not the person to ask. Listen to avi!
[03:50] <wcGary83> avi_ I am trying to mount the folder to play movies right from the desktop... ssh only transfers files, right?
[03:50] <avi_> wcGary83: So I thought a week ago! SSH actually is a magical thing that does a bajillion super useful things.
[03:50] <avi_> wcGary83: You can in one command, mount an SSH server's hard drive, and browse it natively in nautilus, with no mods whatsoever.
[03:51] <wcGary83> avi_ huh, i'll check that out!
[03:51] <Blue1> avi_: ssh is used for remote adminstration of a computer or network
[03:51] <Fendaril> Does anyone know how to get the VT fonts menu?
[03:51] <avi_> Blue1: I'm aware :D
[03:52] <dougb_freebsd> Fendaril: in an xterm?
[03:52] <Fendaril> Yes!
[03:52] <G__81> how do i change the booting sequence in grub2
[03:52] <Fendaril> i actually needed a uterm to get a menu up period
[03:52] <G__81> i am using ubuntu 10.04.1
[03:52] <dougb_freebsd> hold down control, and click
[03:52] <dougb_freebsd> if it's not control, it's alt
[03:52] <G__81> i changed the Default and time out values in /etc/default/grub.cfg
[03:53] <G__81> but it does not take any effect
[03:53] <Fendaril> dougb_freebsd: any reason why i cannot get a menu up in xterm
[03:53] <Fendaril> dougb_freebsd: I can get it up fine in uterm, but no VT fonts in uterm
[03:53] <G__81> can some one let me know on how to change the boot sequence in grub 2
[03:53] <sacarlson> G__81: I use startupmanager to change grub2 default boot
[03:54] <G__81> sacarlson, how do i install that ?
[03:54] <dougb_freebsd> Fendaril: interesting, the main options menu works, but not vt fonts ... probably a compilation option
[03:54] <cafard74> Hello! I have a M-audio Delta-44 soundcard. In Dapper and Feisty I did not have to do anything and it worked. Now with version 10 nothing works, even after installing the up to date drivers...
[03:54] <sacarlson> G__81: apt-get install startupmanager
[03:54] <G__81> sacarlson, just apt-get install startupmanager
[03:55] <sacarlson> G__81: it's a GUI that you access from System>administration>startup-manager
[03:55] <kenthree> how do I reset this xubuntu session? it shows the windows I had open last time (save this session for future logins is unchecked in the shutdown dialog)
[03:55] <Soggystefan> Wow, you could learn alot just sitting here and listening O.o
[03:55] <Fendaril> dougb_freebsd: this is practice for a linux book I am reading and as you can probably tell VT fonts is somewhat needed. Can i live without VT fonts in a general linux career of sys admin mastery over the OS?
[03:56] <rodeo_> Hi!
[03:56] <G__81> sacarlson, ok now i have selected one option in that how do i save it ?
[03:56] <rodeo_>   Any one for help please
[03:56] <avi_> !ask | rodeo_
[03:57] <sacarlson> G__81: just close the window after selection and your done
[03:57] <G__81> oh ok thanks sacarlson
[03:57] <rodeo_> Ok! On desktop layout for applications, their is no search option in ubuntu?
[03:58] <Soggystefan> yes, there most certaintly is
[03:58] <Soggystefan> the name of which escapes me :x
[03:58] <Soggystefan> one sec
[03:58] <kenthree> how do I start a terminal with a command automatically on startup?
[03:58] <rodeo_> I am installing softwares, but they are not enlisted in the list, how do I find them
[03:58] <avi_> rodeo_: Tracker. That's what you'll want.
[03:59] <cafard74> I have a M-audio Delta-44 soundcard. In Dapper and Feisty I did not have to do anything and it worked. Now with version 10.04 nothing works, even after installing the up to date drivers... How do I make it work ?
[03:59] <Soggystefan> What avi said >.>
[03:59] <dougb_freebsd> kenthree: why don't you describe what you're trying to accomplish
[03:59] <avi_> rodeo_: Alternatively, you can try Beagle. I don't myself use either service (I use Gnome-Do to search files), and I can't remember which was better.
[03:59] <Soggystefan> Just go through like, 3 clicks, and you have it. If you just want a terminal
[03:59] <rodeo_> avi_ where do I get that 'Tracker"
[04:00] <kenthree> dougb_freebsd: I need to start a php script on login
[04:00] <avi_> rodeo_: sudo apt-get install tracker beagle -- that would get you both.
[04:00] <rodeo_> Thanks let me try!
[04:00] <avi_> rodeo_: Or pop up the Ubuntu Software Center and search for "beagle" or "tracker"
[04:00] <pegler> hi all.  quick question, but I can't seem to find the right thing to google for.
[04:01] <avi_> rodeo_: Actually, i'd use beagle.
[04:01] <rodeo_> avi- many many thanks
[04:01] <Soggystefan> Tell us your question then...
[04:01] <avi_> rodeo_: I just checked, it's more integrated in the Gnome UI.
[04:01] <Soggystefan> xD
[04:01] <pegler> I made a new interface eth0:0, but it doesn't connect automatically at boot.  how do I set this up?
[04:01] <avi_> rodeo_: Sure thing.
[04:01] <TiK> pegler: there should be a checkox for "auto" or something
[04:01] <TiK> pegler: thats gui tho
[04:02] <arnotixe_> This might have been asked before: Is there any ogg/vorbis alternative to the bookmarking/tagging of M4B or whatever the apple[?] audiobook format is called? I mean, can an ogg/vorbis file contain such "chapters"?
[04:02] <pegler> I've been doing it through /etc/network/interfaces.  about to try using the gui
[04:02] <Soggystefan> Oh, wow, I just found a disc with macpuppy on it, gathering dust under my bed O.o
[04:02] <Soggystefan> wierd.
[04:02] <cafard74> IS there any known problems with the M-Audio delta drivers and Ubuntu 10.04 ?
[04:03] <sacarlson> kenthree: when you login to your ubuntu xserver sesion?  or when you login to a web page?
[04:03] <ikar> Hey! I'm trying to dual-boot Ubuntu-10.04 and Gentoo, but Grub doesn't include Gentoo. What can be wrong?
[04:03] <scans> hello, am looking for html editor and designor that can be easy to use and help me with writting code if possible
[04:04] <vvtungtk5> hello
[04:04] <kenthree> sacarlson: when the computer starts up. it's just a cli script
[04:04] <sacarlson> ikar: is your bios booting the default /dev/sda disk?
[04:04] <avi_> scans: I'd try Kompozer.
[04:04] <ikar> sacarlson, yes
[04:05] <sacarlson> kenthree: computer startup is normaly not login.  you can set a crontab envent at boot @reboot
[04:05] <ikar> sacarlson, Gentoo is on /dev/sdb
[04:05] <Guest40204> Anyone have any personal experience with the new 2.6.35 kernel in Meerkat?
[04:05] <Muelli> arnotixe_: hm. I'd look at xiph.org
[04:05] <sacarlson> ikar: that's find but what partition do you have your bios boot?
[04:05] <TiK> Guest40204: I use that kernel in lucid
[04:06] <sacarlson> fine
[04:06] <scans> avi_: ist easy to use?
[04:06] <kenthree> i think this is easier than I think.. just need to run a command at boot O.o
[04:06] <edguix> this might be off topic, but can anyone point me to an RC channel?
[04:06] <ikar> sacarlson, /dev/sda
[04:06] <Soggystefan> an RC channel, edguix?
[04:06] <User_007> How can i put a new videon on my ipod? Rhythmbox ignores my videos on lib..
[04:06] <Guest40204> TiK: Are the improvements worth loading the PPA and upgrading the kernel?
[04:06] <TiK> Guest40204: what PPA
[04:06] <edguix> yes
[04:07] <Soggystefan> What exactly are you wanting to get to?
[04:07] <avi_> scans: That depends on the person using it I guess. I'm no web designer, but I used it a few years ago before I could write HTML and web code. It's free, so you might as well try it out! :D
[04:07] <mininessie> i upgraded from 10.04 to ubuntu 10.10 and haven't rebooted yet should i reboot and have it fail if it does or not and stay on as i know it work
[04:07] <TiK> Guest40204: I went to www.kernel.org
[04:07] <sacarlson> ikar: are you running grub2?  ok then just login to ubuntu and sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[04:07] <Guest40204> TiK: Oh, you compiled it from source? I heard there's a kernel PPA with it in there.
[04:07] <scans> avi_: ok thanks alot
[04:07] <User_007> i can copy from ipod to Linux, but not from linux to PC
[04:07] <avi_> mininessie: Why did you upgrade if you were worried about that ;)?
[04:07] <TiK> Guest40204: od rather compile and take te junk out and set it for my processor type :O
[04:07] <avi_> scans: No problem.
[04:07] <ikar> sacarlson, how do i check if thats the case?
[04:08] <Guest40204> TiK: Haha, good point.
[04:08] <Soggystefan> what the hell... Opera looks like it has built in Folx...
[04:08] <TiK> Guest40204: otherwise why even upgrade
[04:08] <Soggystefan> that's new O.o
[04:08] <mininessie> avi_, yes
[04:08] <User_007> i can copy from ipod to Linux, but not from linux to Ipod *****
[04:08] <sacarlson> ikar: grub2?  look in synaptic for grub2 make sure box is checked
[04:08] <Guest40204> TiK: I just wasn't sure if it would break all kinds of stuff if I went with it. Sounds like it's stable enough.
[04:08] <TiK> User_007: floola?
[04:08] <ikar> aah, yes, it's checked, sacarlson
[04:08] <TiK> Guest40204: just use your old config.. set the processer type and compile then
[04:09] <avi_> mininessie: That wasn't a yes or no question, but there's a good chance that you'll be able to reboot just fine.
[04:09] <Soggystefan> what exactly are you wanting to get to, edguix?
[04:09] <User_007> TiK, does it work on Ipod Touch?
[04:09] <TiK> Guest40204: or use the PPA :P
[04:09] <TiK> User_007: should
[04:09] <ubuntuLily> I am getting an error saying "Error Mounting proc/bus/usb press S to continue" everytime I boot up my pc
[04:09] <mininessie> avi_, okay i hope so cause alpha 1 was horrible with it
[04:10] <scans> am getting problem to make my webcam work online, how can i fix it?
[04:10] <avi_> mininessie: Yeah alpha 1 wasn't too hot for me either. keep in mind that the beta of maverick is support to come out this week, and also, that if you just want to get your hands on the latest and greatst, it's much easier and faster and risk-free to just try them out in virtualbox.
[04:10] <TiK> guest_144: I use http://linuxtweaking.blogspot.com/2010/05/how-to-compile-kernel-on-ubuntu-1004.html its helpful.. if you mess up you can always boot into an old kernel and start over
[04:10] <Soggystefan> did you pick the right connection for your cam, scans?
[04:10] <Soggystefan> which video service are you using?
[04:10] <sacarlson> ubuntuLily: what's pluged into the usb?  a disk?  is it needed?  unplug it.
[04:11] <ubuntuLily> nothing plugged in
[04:11] <ubuntuLily> I am assuming it is trying to mount something that isn't there
[04:11] <scans> Soggystefan: yes its work on my pc but not online, i try it in aMSN,emesene
[04:12] <Soggystefan> scans: so, it's not working in aMSN, or is it?
[04:12] <sacarlson> ubuntuLily: was there ever somthing pluged into usb?  is somthing in /etc/fstab  that wants to mount something that isn't there?
[04:12] <scans> not working
[04:12] <User_007> TiK,
[04:12] <User_007> Floola is a freeware application to efficiently manage your iPod or your Motorola mobile phone (any model supporting iTunes except iPhone, iPod touch).
[04:12] <ikar> when i run update-grub: "Found Gentoo Base System release 1.12.13 on /dev/sdb3"
[04:13] <Soggystefan> I'd try and help you there, scans, but I've never had that happen before to me.
[04:13] <TiK> User_007: o
[04:13] <ikar> but it doesn't show when i boot :-/
[04:13] <TiK> User_007: i sec
[04:13] <blockhead> Ag dul amach a fháil beoir, ba mhaith leat pionta?
[04:13] <ubuntuLily> neat....  Found "none /proc/bus/usb usbfs devgid=1001,devmode=664 0 0 "
[04:13] <scans> Soggystefan: thanks
[04:13] <Sunderphon> How do I limit the amount of time a notify-send is on the screen for?
[04:13] <ubuntuLily> I am assuming that can go
[04:13] <sacarlson> ikar: make sure you scrool down if the screen is full of kernels  it might be bellow what you can see on the page.
[04:14] <TiK> User_007: You can play music from the iPod and transfer music to it by drag-and-dropping files from the Library onto the iPod icon. Please note: you might need to restart the Rythmbox for it to recognize the album art on the newly uploaded tracks.
[04:14] <ikar> sacarlson, ok. Thanks for your help. I'll test it now. Good bye
[04:14] <sacarlson> ikar: did you look with startup-manager?
[04:14] <ikar> sacarlson, yes
[04:14] <TiK> User_007: just use rythmbox
[04:14] <ubuntuLily> Commenting is #[SPACE] right?
[04:14] <plouffe> I'm trying to run ubuntu live cd on an old laptop, but it doesn't recognize the mouse. I've restarted 3 times using different external mice, but every time the mouse cursor just hangs. How could I get that to work?
[04:15] <cihan> hi
[04:15] <westley333> hi
[04:15] <cihan> :)
[04:15] <User_007> TiK, but as i said when i put A video on rhythmbox it is not shown on the list
[04:15] <sacarlson> ikar: I would think you would see it then,  did you enter as I stated sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[04:16] <cihan> vlc
[04:16] <cihan> on wine
[04:16] <cihan> :S
[04:16] <Soggystefan> I'm not seeing an ISO file for macpuppy x<
[04:16] <avg_guy> hey I was wondering if I wanted to make a multi boot dvd with os such as ( konboot , ophcrack, dls, bt4, gparted, and maybe others depending on what would fit) so I am wondering how I would do this in ubuntu or what app I could use to get this done?
[04:16] <ikar> sacarlson, i just wrote sudo grub-install
[04:17] <sacarlson> ikar: I'm not sure where that will install it
[04:17] <avi_> avg_guy: Not sure about DVDs, but usb-multipass would be great for a USB (which is usually a better solution than a DVD, providing you have one available :D)
[04:17] <ikar> sacarlson, ok, i'll try it your way.
[04:18] <dz2> is avahi a necessary part of ubuntu?
[04:18] <edguix> ~edguix
[04:19] <Soggystefan> Should I burn the dmg file to a disk, if I wanted to have macpuppy, or should I click on the ejectable thing that doesn't have a file type shown?
[04:19] <dz2> i see a weird network device called eth0:avahi when I do ifconfig: is that normal?
[04:19] <User_007> TiK, when there is a video on ipod it can be sent for linux, but it is not shown on lib's list, but i can't send any video from Linux to ipod
[04:20] <ikar> i'll try reboot now, brb
[04:20] <hiku> dz2: its not a big deal
[04:20] <zkriesse> cihan: Hi
[04:21] <sacarlson> dz2: not for me it's not but I have a static IP setup so maybe it's different
[04:21] <hiku> dz2: if you really want to learn more about avhai or "zero config" there are tons of websites regarding it.
[04:22] <dz2> hiku: the question is do I need it?
[04:22] <hiku> dz2: nope.
[04:22] <Soggystefan> Question---> Should I burn the dmg file to a disk, if I wanted to have macpuppy, or should I click on the ejectable thing that doesn't have a file type shown?
[04:22] <avi_> dz2: It's useful if you have Mac OS running devices on your network, but it's by no means an essential part of Ubuntu.
[04:22] <tpw_rules> is there any way to watch streaming netflix on ubuntu?
[04:22] <dz2> I'm trying to set up this box as a router and it is causing problems with dhcp
[04:23] <hiku> dz2: how so?
[04:23] <dz2> thanks avi, looks like a big security risk
[04:23] <sacarlson> dz2: mine is setup as a router.  I would think you would need to setup a static IP for that.
[04:24] <hiku> dz2: setting of ubuntu as a router really isn't hard "iptables" all the way
[04:24] <dz2> syslog is telling me I need a subnet for 169.254.6.66. tghis address has nothing to do with me. What is it?
[04:24] <avi_> dz2: Maybe, I wouldn't tend to think so, but I don't really know how zeroconf/bonjour/avahi work. Surely you won't need them for your intended use, and you should be using ufw/iptables anyway.
[04:25] <Tempus_Fugit> hey if I installed something with adobeair how do you uninstall or
[04:25] <Tempus_Fugit> remove it
[04:25] <kisuke> ok how would i connect to a RDP session from windows?
[04:25] <sacarlson> hiku: dz2: you would also want dhcp3 server, maybe bind9.
[04:26] <dz2> yesw I have dhcp3 server
[04:27] <Scrumps> Is there anyway I can verify that I have removed all traces of mySQL, Apache, torrentflux, rtorrent, and other programs of that nature that require dependencies?
[04:27] <Tempus_Fugit> anyone know how to remove something installed with adobeair??
[04:27] <cafard74> Hello! Would someone explain to me why Lucid is so crappy ?
[04:28] <van7hu> Hell
[04:28] <xangua> Tempus_Fugit: normally it creates a deb of what you install, just uninstall the deb
[04:28]  * xxpor senses a troll
[04:28] <cafard74> Nah
[04:28] <Coded1> cafard74,  its because of the gnomes ...
[04:28] <van7hu> Hello
[04:28] <WXZ> is it a smart idea to triple boot?
[04:29] <Soggystefan> When trying to burn the Macpup.dmg , It finished and gave me (The burn failed because of a medium wrtite error.) What did I do wrong??
[04:29] <WXZ> windows xp after ubuntu after windows xp?
[04:29] <Janhouse> Can't install duplicity from apt-get
[04:29] <dz2> hmm avahi seems to indeed be an integral part of ubuntu since apt wan to to remove gnome if I remove it
[04:29] <Janhouse> install freezes: Unpacking librsync1 (from .../librsync1_0.9.7-7_amd64.deb) ...
[04:29] <kisuke> Soggystefan, bad disk
[04:29] <van7hu> Does anyone use JVJ modem 3G with lucid
[04:29] <cafard74> Coded1 : Serious ? Do Kubuntu works better ?
[04:29] <van7hu> ?
[04:29] <Coded1> lol yup
[04:29] <avi_> van7hu: I do it just fine on my 2008 iMac. (Windows 7, latest mac, and Ubuntu)
[04:29] <Tempus_Fugit> xangua: I tried to uninstall with sudo apt-get --purge twhirl and it said no such package existed
[04:29] <Soggystefan> kisuke: damn.
[04:29] <Janhouse> I am looking for backup tool for linux that is usable from command line
[04:29] <van7hu> avi_ : what modem do you use?
[04:30] <Coded1> cafard74, what problems are you having?
[04:30] <van7hu> is that JVJ from singapore
[04:30] <xangua> Tempus_Fugit: try apt-search twhirl
[04:30] <avi_> van7hu: What has that to do with anything?
[04:30] <cafard74> Coded1 : soundcard drivers not working
[04:30] <Tempus_Fugit> xangua: ok will try ty
[04:30] <xangua> aptitude search *** Tempus_Fugit
[04:30] <cafard74> Coded1 : In older versions I never had that
[04:30] <WXZ> can I install windows xp on top of windows xp + ubuntu?
[04:30] <cafard74> Coded1 : it just does not work
[04:31] <Coded1> cafard74, paste bin your lspci -vv / lsmod
[04:31] <Tempus_Fugit> xangua: says apt-search command not found
[04:31] <pie_time> can anyone  tell me how to get video thumbnails in nautilus? (i built my system from the minimal cd)
[04:31] <xangua> to get the package name, for example i searched tweetdeck and got tweetdeckfast.fff259dc0ce265784
[04:31] <xangua> (22:30:38) xangua: aptitude search *** Tempus_Fugit
[04:31] <mbrigdan> Can someone help, Firefox removed all of my addons, which would normally only be a few minutes to fix, except that this is the 3rd time its happen, which is getting rather annoying. Anyone know what I can do?
[04:32] <pie_time> mbrigdan, irc.mozilla.org #firefox
[04:32] <kisuke> mbrigdan, does dmesg say any thing?
[04:32] <xangua> mbrigdan: delete your firefox profile, maybe it's currupted
[04:32] <Tempus_Fugit> xangua: it is installed in opt
[04:32] <Coded1> mbrigdan, did you install firefox from synaptic / repo or off the site?
[04:33] <sacarlson> mbrigdan: I guess you should make a backup of ~./mozilla dir next time.
[04:33] <mbrigdan> Coded1, Synaptic, but I've also tried the site (and the ppa) in an attempt to get it to work
[04:34] <mbrigdan> sacarlson, I do, in fact, have a backup. 3 of them (Incremental rsync). Copying them over did nothing
[04:34] <van7hu> quit
[04:34] <cafard74> Coded1 : hummm, its pretty long!
[04:34] <Coded1> mbrigdan, it could be that you installed the file manually as root ;)  try to run it as root from the command line : # sudo firefox &"
[04:34] <sacarlson> mbrigdan: where do they keep those then?
[04:34] <Coded1> cafard74, paste it anyway
[04:35] <dublisk> Hi, I need libstdc++.so.5 (64-bit library) on ubuntu, whats the best way to install that
[04:35] <mbrigdan> sacarlson, On an external drive
[04:35] <pie_time> can someone  tell me how to get video thumbnails in nautilus? (i built my system from the minimal cd)
[04:35] <dublisk> can I apt-get it ?
[04:35] <sacarlson> mbrigdan: no I mean where is mozilla keeping the extentions?
[04:35] <Blue1> how do I naviagate to applications/places/system withOUT a mouse?
[04:35] <cafard74> 00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. K8M800 Host Bridge
[04:35] <cafard74> 	Subsystem: VIA Technologies, Inc. K8M800 Host Bridge
[04:35] <cafard74> 	Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- DisINTx-
[04:35] <cafard74> 	Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
[04:35] <cafard74> 	Latency: 64
[04:35] <FloodBot3> cafard74: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:35] <mbrigdan> sacarlson, no clue, reallu
[04:35] <kisuke> sacarlson, /var/lib/mozilla/ if i remember right
[04:36] <Tempus_Fugit> xangua: ok I got it removed ..had to go through SPM took longer but its gone
[04:36] <Coded1> lol oops
[04:36] <Coded1> should have reminded him to use the site ...
[04:36] <bullgard4> pie_time: What is a »video thumbnail«?
[04:37] <Crankygeek01> Hello room
[04:37] <WXZ> is it a smart idea to install windows xp on top of windows xp + ubuntu?
[04:37] <pie_time> bullgard4, it is a picture of a frame of the video that is used as an icon for the video instead of some generic icon of a video
[04:38] <cafard74> Sorry for that
[04:38] <mbrigdan> WXZ, It will overwrite grub, so you won't be able to access your ubuntu without a little fixing.
[04:38] <bullgard4> Janhouse: A backup tool for linux that is usable from command line, is rsnapshot. You will love it after having it installed and got running.
[04:38] <pie_time> can someone  tell me how to get video thumbnails in nautilus? (i built my system from the minimal cd)
[04:38] <WXZ> dang
[04:38] <WXZ> how little?
[04:38] <Crankygeek01> WXZ: why would you do something like that?
[04:38] <plouffe> running live cd on old laptop, mouse not recognized, can I somehow get to the settings menu without the mouse, cause right now I can't do blip.
[04:38] <Coded1> WXZ, if your planning to just wipe out the 2 OS's and replace it with the single OS then sure no problems
[04:39] <WXZ> because I need 1 windows xp for normal use, and 1 for messing around w/
[04:39] <Soggystefan> Umm, how do I erase this disk? I have an old copy of the first Stagecast on it, and I want to take it off so I can put macpup on it. How do I erase it?
[04:39] <Blue1> how to I navigate to applications/places/system withOUT a mouse?
[04:39] <bullgard4> pie_time: Ok. But I do not know the answer to your question.
[04:39] <mbrigdan> WXZ, you'll have to run a live cd, and (I forget the command right now), but it should be very simple
[04:39] <Coded1> WXY, you can look into VMWare Player if you have >1GB ram
[04:39] <sacarlson> pie_time:  I noticed in nautilus that you can chose to make or not make thumbnails depending on files size.  I'm not sure what needs to be added to make it work.
[04:39] <WXZ> virtual machines are too slow for what I want coded
[04:40] <Coded1> WXY, np
[04:40] <WXZ> ok, well I'll back everything up just in case
[04:40] <mbrigdan> WXZ, Here are the real instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[04:40] <pie_time> sacarlson, yeah me either
[04:41] <Soggystefan> How do I erase this disk? I have an old copy of the first Stagecast on it, and I want to take it off so I can put macpup on it. How do I erase it? It's not giving me and option to erase, like, it's in the un-clickable thing, where it's faded.
[04:41] <sacarlson> pie_time: on and also the location was dependent if the file was local or mounted from a network was also a config in nautilus for that.
[04:41] <bullgard4> Blue1: Start with Alt+F1.
[04:41] <pie_time> sacarlson, neither local nor networked videos have thumbnails
[04:41] <sacarlson> pie_time: maybe it already works and you just need to set the config
[04:41] <pie_time> sacarlson, what config?
[04:41] <Soggystefan> Can anyone help?
[04:42] <sacarlson> pie_time: well video file size may be big so that would triger no thumbnails if set that way
[04:42] <Soggystefan> How do I erase this disk? I have an old copy of the first Stagecast on it, and I want to take it off so I can put macpup on it. How do I erase it? It's not giving me and option to erase, like, it's in the un-clickable thing, where it's faded. <<---- A question :O
[04:42] <vishwa> which server: dns/lamp/openssh etc is best for hosting business portal
[04:42] <pie_time> sacarlson, i have it set at "show thumbnails for all files under 4GB"
[04:42] <osubuck_> hi, is there a linux equivalent to daemon tools?
[04:43] <osubuck_> trying to mount iso image
[04:43] <jlw> hm, my nautilus is set to show previews only for files smaller than 10mb, but it shows them for much larger
[04:43] <mbrigdan> osubuck_, CDemu
[04:43] <sacarlson> pie_time: well I'm sure your video isn't that big so must be something to add
[04:43] <osubuck_> a GUI application?
[04:44] <pie_time> sacarlson, yeah i dont know what  to add
[04:44] <bullgard4> Soggystefan: You usually do not erase disks but rather files or filesystems on a partition of a disk.
[04:44] <Soggystefan> Well, it's not giving me any options to mess with the disk.
[04:44] <Soggystefan> In fact
[04:44] <Soggystefan> It doesn't look like it says it's even in there.
[04:44] <mbrigdan> osubuck_, hmm, Not that I recall. Sorry. Google might be of more help.
[04:45] <osubuck_> yea thanks anyway, i've looked...
[04:45] <mbrigdan> Soggystefan, You mean like, a CD/DVD?
[04:45] <Soggystefan> Correct.
[04:45] <mbrigdan> Soggystefan, Are you sure its re-writable? Many are "write once"
[04:45] <Soggystefan> Oh :/
[04:46] <timh____> I am running 10.04, using a wireless router to a broadband (comcast) internet connection, but the command ps -A|grep dhcp turns up a blank.  Where is the dhcp client?
[04:46] <Soggystefan> Let me see if I can find a blank, and un-scratched disk...
[04:46] <mbrigdan> Soggystefan, Take a look at the disk, see if it says CD-R, or CD-RW anywhere
[04:48] <_genuser_> cleera
[04:48] <_genuser_> hello people
[04:48] <Kerrick> I have a cheap HP printer attached to a box running Arch Linux via USB, which is hard wired to my router, which runs DD-WRT with no modifications. I set up the printer through CUPS on the Arch box, choosing "Share this printer", and I can thereafter print test pages through the Arch box's CUPS interface. However, my Ubuntu laptop, connected to the router via wireless, cannot "see" the shared printer, even though ufw is disabled. What gives?
[04:48] <dougb_freebsd> timh____: try searching for just dhc
[04:48] <_genuser_> trying to install g++ and it's giving errors saying Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid-updates/main binutils 2.20.1-3ubuntu
[04:49] <vishwa> is dns server good for hosing my site?
[04:49] <Kerrick> err, the first which refers to the Arch box and the second which refers to the router.
[04:49] <mininessie> is this good or bad todd@todd:~$ sudo aptitude upgrade
[04:49] <mininessie> No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
[04:49] <mininessie> 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[04:49] <mininessie> Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.
[04:49] <FloodBot3> mininessie: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:49] <mininessie> ok srry
[04:49] <Soggystefan> I'm trying to put in a DVD-R disk (blank), but it just ejects it when I try and put it into my disk-drive. Help?
[04:50] <_genuser_> anybody got any idea how to fix install failture?
[04:51] <Kerrick> Hmm, nvm, I was able to get it to work after I specified the IP address of the Arch box. I was just confused because it worked before without having to do so.
[04:51] <sacarlson> mininessie: are you hooked to the internet?  did you try apt-get update?
[04:51] <mininessie> sacarlson, i am running 10.10
[04:51] <jlw> are you trying to reinstall something that is already installed?
[04:51] <sacarlson> mininessie: I don't think they have any upgrades for it then
[04:51] <timh____> dougb_freebsd>Okay, there it is.  Now my real question.  To communicate with my host, VMware needs bridged networking, which requires me to install a dhcp server.  Will they conflict?
[04:52] <jlw> oh, er, sorry, read that wrong
[04:52] <itsux2bu> any way to do the functions of a router free.. if you can't afford a router box?  asking for a friend..
[04:52] <sacarlson> mininessie: but maybe they have updates
[04:52] <tpw_rules> is there any way to watch streaming netflix on ubuntu?
[04:52] <Soggystefan> I'm trying to put in a DVD-R disk (blank), but it just ejects it when I try and put it into my disk-drive. It gives me no errors when it ejects, it just pops out. Help? O.o
[04:52] <mininessie> sacarlson, well how do i know that it is actually searching repos or whatever they search for
[04:52] <dougb_freebsd> timh____: my vague recollection is that the vmware host component already had the right dhcp server bits
[04:52] <mininessie> sacarlson, i just update to 10.10 about an hour ago
[04:53] <sacarlson> mininessie: you can check your repo list and you should see activity when it tries to update with sudo apt-get update
[04:53] <mininessie> sacarlson, how
[04:53] <timh____> dougb_freebsd>don't I wish.  the manual is saying I need to setup server on the host.
[04:54] <dougb_freebsd> ah
[04:54] <sacarlson> mininessie: in synaptic is what I normaly look at repos
[04:54] <dougb_freebsd> well, you can bind it to 127.0.0.1, or wherever the vmware host stuff needs it to be
[04:54] <dougb_freebsd> .... or you could just use virtualbox, which IMO is much easier to use
[04:55] <dim3000> my ubuntu sometimes starts up into Low Graphics Mode, or it just freezes on startup (these events happen randomly)
[04:55] <timh____> dougb_freebsd>I'll download it, and if it doesn't work,I'll remove it.
[04:55] <mininessie> sacarlson, huh
[04:56] <nogo> is v10.10 a LTS version?
[04:56] <nogo> who cares?
[04:56] <Soggystefan> I'm trying to put in a DVD-R disk (blank), but it just ejects it when I try and put it into my disk-drive. It gives me no errors when it ejects, it just pops out. Help? O.O <<<--- Question :?
[04:56] <jlw> mininessie, are you trying to upgrade anything in particular, or are you just trying to find out of htere are any available updates?
[04:57] <pie_time> can someone  tell me how to get video thumbnails in nautilus? (i built my system from the minimal cd)
[04:57] <mininessie> jlw, well i am trying to see if there are updates and that its actually trying to search for updates and that repos or whatever is working
[04:58] <jlw> mininessie, as far as I can tell, that just means that your system is completely up-to-date
[04:58] <gerzel> Q: Does anyone know about Virtualbox?  I have an Ubuntu Machine on a Windows7 host and need to set up a shared folder to pass files between the two.
[04:58] <michael_> ewefer rghth dgfg
[04:59] <michael_> ccv ghg fhghj nmk jyh
[04:59] <nogo> hehe
[04:59] <jlw> pie_time, did you try looking at nautilus' preferences? (edit > preferences > preview tab)
[04:59] <michael_> i want to hear from you
[04:59] <nogo> i hate it more at each marketing
[05:00] <pie_time> jlw, sure did
[05:00] <michael_> please call me
[05:00] <jlw> maybe look at them via gconf-editor?
[05:01] <nogo> michael? you are dead already
[05:01] <Soggystefan> Well, later all, I'll work out my disk issue in the morning, I suppose.
[05:01] <michael_> what do you mean
[05:02] <michael_> may i see you tomorrow
[05:02] <HermanDE> any guesses how to create a system sound from the command line?
[05:03] <michael_> no
[05:04] <michael_> who are you
[05:04] <ratdog> whats the record up time for Linux
[05:04] <pie_time> jlw, what?
[05:04] <michael_> i want to know you
[05:06] <Tempus_Fugit> Hey how do I make sure my auto complete is working say in typing file names and such
[05:06] <jlw> pie_time, if you open gconf-editor through the terminal, you can look at the nautilus settings through that. I found something in apps, nautilus, preferences. Might help.
[05:07] <shinzeh> Excuse me. I tried to play a .mp3 file using exaile, turns out I have missing codecs (I think), is there an apt-get for this?
[05:08] <shinzeh> Oh wait, here's the exact message. "You do not have a decoder installed to handle this file. You might need to install the necessary plugins". :)
[05:08] <tf2ftw> I have a svn folder with perms drwxr-sr-x . My user is in the group that owns the folder yet SVN commit fails with permission error. any clues?
[05:09] <jlw> shinzeh, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Lucid <-- that should have everything you need about codecs
[05:09] <shinzeh> Thanks jlw. This is way better than what google said. :P
[05:13] <sacarlson> shinzeh: I think this is what your looking for  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[05:14] <shinzeh> Thank you. :)
[05:18] <hediyant> I'm currently booted from Ubuntu LiveUSB in nopersistent mode -- how can I get files from the root filesystem onto the USB stick?
[05:19] <jlw> hediyant, I don't think you can. At all.
[05:19] <seidos> hediyant, hmmm, you mean the file system on the hard disk?
[05:20] <john--__> good evening
[05:20] <hediyant> jlw: I have the files I want to keep in RAM in /home.
[05:21] <hediyant> jlw: I want to put them back onto my USB stick without using any other storage medium.
[05:21] <jlw> But you didn't set the usb stick up to have a separate save space?
[05:21] <john--__> anyone using subversion to store config files from servers?
[05:21] <hediyant> Good evening, john--
[05:21] <hediyant> jlw: Well, I did originally.
[05:22] <hediyant> But I was having problems with a dodgy casper file so I deleted it :P
[05:22] <jlw> I don't think it's possible to write do that usb stick while it's moutned as a read-only filesystem
[05:22] <hediyant> jlw: but there should be room on the partition :)
[05:23] <hediyant> Yeah that seems to be the problem, jlw
[05:23] <jlw> Not without that file...
[05:23] <jlw> Maybe online space?
[05:23] <hediyant> Also, jlw, does UNR actually have any advantage for netbooks over regular ubuntu?
[05:23] <jlw> Ubuntu one?
[05:24] <hediyant> jlw: Clever idea!
[05:24] <jlw> UNR Is designed for smaller screens
[05:24] <hediyant> :P
[05:24] <hediyant> Yeah, it's just it seems to me like it's got added bloat just for the sakeof making Windows users feel at home or something :P
[05:24] <hediyant> Maybe Xubuntu would be moresuitable.
[05:25] <jlw> I tried it once and the UI was extremely unresponsive, but that was  a long time ago.
[05:25] <hediyant> Oh, it's better in 9.10 than 9.04
[05:25] <hediyant> Still, clutter is cluttery and I prefer traditional GNOME menus.
[05:25] <roky> is there a way to get Ubuntu one to sign on as soon as there is an available internet connection? I always find myself having to go open it manually.
[05:26] <jlw> Hrm, I thought that was the whole point of ubuntu one.
[05:27] <hediyant> jlw: I'd like to be able to boot in persistent mode next time, but like I said, I got rid of my casper file. How can I get it back?
[05:28] <mininessie> having a problem Failed to download repository information
[05:28] <mininessie> Check your Internet connection.
[05:28] <jlw> hediyant, without formatting the stick again? Beats me.
[05:28] <hediyant> jlw: Okay... perhaps I should just go and think properly about serious solutions for using this netbook, rather than LiveUSB sticks.
[05:29] <hediyant> jlw: Anyway, thanks for helping.
[05:29] <shcherbak> lol, who can point me to mouse configuration in tty (links2+vesa)
[05:29] <jlw> no problem
[05:29] <hediyant> Bye
[05:29] <hediyant> :)
[05:29] <tpw_rules> is there any way to watch streaming netflix on ubuntu?
[05:30] <jlw> heh, welcome to my world, tpw_rules. My sad, sad world.
[05:30] <Wiesshund> Want to trade?
[05:30] <tpw_rules> heh
[05:31] <jlw> I don't think there is a good solution to streaming netflix in linux.
[05:31] <Wiesshund> How bad is your world? i may trade you
[05:31] <jlw> Well, other than this netflix issue I have, not so bad.
[05:32] <Wiesshund> hmm, wanna trade encoding a huge amount of non replaceable disney films to dvd storage?
[05:32] <jlw> I surely do not
[05:33] <Wiesshund> 80gb raw dump per film, and have to fit that into a 4gb or less mpeg2 in the end
[05:33] <tpw_rules> get a fast computer
[05:33] <jlw> Sounds slow
[05:33] <mbrigdan> Does anyone know if there is a way to make gpg encrypt a file using a key specified in a file, rather than having to import my key, use it, then delete it again?
[05:34] <dumont> how can I clean some space in /dev/root partition, it got full :(
[05:35] <Wiesshund> tpw hehe there is no such thing, atleast not in this regard. atleast the raw digitzing part is relatively painless since its done in hardware
[05:35] <tpw_rules> how long does it take per movie?
[05:35] <jlw> dumont, you can try sudo apt-get clean, to remove old temporary packages, I believe
[05:35] <dumont> i don't think its packages that take up space
[05:36] <piglit> dumont sometimes i remove the kernels i dont use anymore manually
[05:36] <Wiesshund> jlw what does netflix stream to? propriety app and container or ?
[05:36] <tpw_rules> it uses silverlight
[05:36] <tpw_rules> but i don't think moonlight will work
[05:36] <Wiesshund> silverlight the MS thing?
[05:37] <bsmith093> is there a way to search about 12000+ txt files for similarity such as a nintey percent exact match
[05:37] <sacarlson> mbrigdan: I just use gedit plugin to gpg encrypt files and seahorse to play with keys.
[05:38] <jlw> Wiesshund, I'm not sure. It seems like supporting linux would be relatively easy, though. That's what makes it aggravating.
[05:38] <Wiesshund> tpw_rules what about installing IE8 under wine and silverlight as well? no go?
[05:38] <mallory> can anyone give advice on how to fix my lucid install?
[05:38] <tpw_rules> dunno
[05:38] <dumont> apt-get clean didn't help
[05:38] <jlw> As far as I can tell, wine is a no go for netflix.
[05:38] <tpw_rules> it's supported on osx
[05:39] <dumont> i just deleted some logs and got some free space, but where are the rest of the 18GB on the root partition?
[05:39] <dumont> i remember it was only 22% full
[05:39] <dumont> now its 99% full, why?
[05:39] <Wiesshund> cat dev/root/.p0rn ?
[05:39] <Cloud> hey all, is there any way to enable framebuffer?
[05:39] <dumont> its a fking server
[05:39] <dumont> not a desktop
[05:40] <Cloud> the usual vga=789 stuff doesn't work in grub
[05:40] <avi_> Wiesshund: rofl!
[05:40] <Wiesshund> im teasing dumont
[05:40] <bsmith093> delete old downloaded packages
[05:40] <dumont> I ALREADY DID!
[05:40] <Wiesshund> Cloud 1 sec
[05:40] <dumont> apt-get clean did NOT help
[05:40] <bsmith093> then sort folders by size
[05:40] <Cloud> Wiesshund: why is the pr0n in /dev/root?
[05:40] <jlw> heh
[05:40] <pepeamid> Hi !! someone have a macbook 3.1 with the configuration file?
[05:40] <Cloud> root appears to be a home directory to me
[05:40] <bsmith093> prune whichevers taking up a massive amount of space
[05:41] <Cloud> home dirs can be in /dev?
[05:41] <pepeamid> Hi, someone have a macbook 3.1 with the Kernel's configuration file?
[05:41] <avi_> Cloud: Yeah always put it in /usr/share/pixmaps/gnome/evolution :D
[05:41] <dumont> bsmith093 i don't know what it is and how am I supposed to sort by size? if I don't know where to issue ls -l to?
[05:41] <bsmith093> check insode the biggest folder first then go from there
[05:42] <Cloud> avi_: care to explain what's so special about that directory? :p
[05:42] <mallory> i have some strange behavior with some applications. as if it's unable to modify configuration and settings files
[05:42] <Cloud> I come from OSX so I'm not all that familiar with linux paths
[05:42] <avi_> Cloud: Uhh Uhh nothing :)
[05:42] <mbrigdan> sacarlson, My problem is that my key is on a usb drive, and I don't want to import, use, then delete it every time
[05:42] <bsmith093> so is it posible to search of large blocks of exact matches in aporx 10gb of text files
[05:42] <avi_> Cloud: Oh really? I do too! Well I used to at any rate lol. When did you make the switch?
[05:43] <dumont> bsmith093 how do I find whats taking up most of the space on the root partition?
[05:43] <bsmith093> is there a gui
[05:43] <Cloud> avi_: not exactly a switch per se, I installed it in vmware to try it out, because i needed to compile some stuff that wouldn't work in OSX
[05:43] <avi_> dumont: Disk usage analyser.
[05:43] <Cloud> it failed but after some googling, i found out that i was missing a lib
[05:43] <dumont> i'm in console mode
[05:43] <avi_> dumont: That is, that's a GTK GUI app that ships with Ubuntu..
[05:43] <avi_> dumont: Oh.
[05:43] <sacarlson> mbrigdan: you could write a script that uses what you want I would think.
[05:44] <iammisc> This is just pathetic, grub2 can't boot a computer that grub1 can???
[05:44] <Cloud> you?
[05:44] <avi_> dumont: That's a rather interesting problem then. have you tried going to / and then la?
[05:45] <dumont> la?
[05:45] <Cloud> ls i guess
[05:45] <avi_> Cloud: Ah I see. I stopped using OS X months ago.. i haven't even booted back. This is on a modern iMac, mind you. The linux filesystem structure is pretty difficult to muck through.. but I'm getting there lol.
[05:45] <dumont> bin   cdrom  etc       home    lib         media  opt   root  srv ...........
[05:45] <dumont> duh
[05:45] <avi_> Cloud: The path I said before is about the same as Mail.app/Resources/icons
[05:46] <Cloud> avi_: so kind of like hiding your pron in a resources directory eh?
[05:46] <mallory> i need to reinstall gnome, but there's a dependency swfdec-mozilla that's in the way. help?
[05:46] <Cloud> "WHY THE HELL IS MAIL.APP 8GB IN SIZE?!"
[05:46] <shcherbak> for grub2 with properiary drivers google "tux idillc" easy fix and good explanation
[05:46] <StevenX> Hi. Can anyone point me to the most up-to-date link on installing a Mac OS X theme on Ubuntu?
[05:47] <avi_> Cloud: Yeah. The absolute best place however, is in an external hard drive, make a folder called ".Trashes", and replace the icon to look like a blank document as opposed to a folder. It's impossible to find because .trashes are ignored by like every OS.
[05:47] <dumont> so?
[05:47] <xangua> StevenX: http://gnome-look.org/
[05:47] <StevenX> thanks xangua
[05:47] <mallory> shcherbak: i don't think swfdec-mozilla is a driver
[05:48] <shcherbak> what this have to do with grub?
[05:48] <mallory> sorry, i thought your message was to me earlier
[05:48] <mallory> i'm not getting much of a response to my questions
[05:48] <shcherbak> ;)
[05:48] <shcherbak> what the Q
[05:48] <shcherbak> ?
[05:49] <Wiesshund> Cloud http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:crsrrDGg3OoJ:news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Fix-the-Big-and-Ugly-Plymouth-Logo-in-Ubuntu-10-04-140810.shtml+ubuntu+%2Bboot+%2Blogo+%2Bresolution&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
[05:49] <mallory> i have problems with gnome
[05:49] <mallory> it seems like settings aren't being written. it causes weird behavior for some applications
[05:49] <Wiesshund> er wow sorry i didnt realize that link was so long
[05:49] <shcherbak> everyone have, more?
[05:49] <jlw> a flash codec is blocking you from reinstalling gnome?
[05:49] <mallory> yes
[05:50] <avi_> jlw: I've had that problem.. I have no idea what went wrong, I got stuck in dependency hell..
[05:50] <jlw> Weird. That's my professional opinion.
[05:51] <Cloud_> darn
[05:51] <pepeamid> Hi, someone have a macbook 3.1 with kernel's configuration file? Thks
[05:51] <RealOpty> anyone know of free VPS/VDS hosting?
[05:51] <foureight84> is empathy available on windows?
[05:51] <avi_> jlw: I'll say. But I was but a humble Linux noob at the time and I didn't even bother troubleshooting, I just nuked the thing.
[05:51] <jlw> That's what I would have done, and have before, more than once. I try to use my wee little brain now, though.
[05:51] <Cloud_> 3 years of on-and-off linux usage and i'm still a noob
[05:52] <shcherbak> something similar happend to my scid, it keeps old setting despite of chnges. chmod failed to resolve so time to purge ;)
[05:52] <mallory> i can't even nuke gnome. it says it isn't installed if i look in synaptic
[05:52] <Cloud_> blame it on each distro having different ways to do things
[05:52] <mallory> but all sorts of gnome things are installed
[05:53] <shcherbak> mallory have u made online upgrade?
[05:53] <mallory> i'm not using kde although there were two applications installed that use kde4 libraries. i got rid of them because i thought the settings write problems were because of a kde/gnome conflict
[05:53] <avi_> mallory: I also had that result of my problem.. Like i said, I just wiped the whole OS. Have you tried running the dpkg tool at single uyser mode?
[05:53] <jlw> I found a thread titled dependency hell made by someone having the same issue.
[05:53] <mallory> yes
[05:53] <maco> mallory: your gnome settings are in ~/.gconf and ~/.gnome2
[05:53] <mallory> i would really like to avoid reinstalling the os
[05:53] <maco> mallory: and other . files with names of the apps
[05:53] <Cloud_> avi_: is the grub2 on your mac an EFI app?
[05:53] <maco> mallory: reinstalling the software wont change your user's settings
[05:54] <mallory> right, i moved those settings files, deleted them, etc.
[05:54] <mallory> the problem remains
[05:54] <john____> Hi.  I was wondering if this was possible: I have a disk with 200GB ish of data on it and I just got a new blank 1TB disk which I wanted to set up in RAID so that the size of the RAIDED volume was 1.2TB - is this possible without reformatting the 200GBdisk?
[05:54] <avg_guy> how to run a .sh as root wouldn't I just go to rthe dir and sudo the .sh
[05:54] <avi_> Cloud_: Not entirely sure how it works, but I use software called rEFIt, which, from what I gather, basically blesses it's own little folder at bootup, which then lets you boot to other OSs.
[05:54] <Cloud_> avg_guy: chmod+x it?
[05:54] <Cloud_> i mean u+s
[05:55] <iammisc> How do i get rid of the search lines in the /boot/grub/grub.cfg by using the the /etc/grub.d system?
[05:55] <Cloud_> avi_: you use refit to boot ubuntu?
[05:55] <mallory> jlw: what is the link to that thread?
[05:55] <jlw> mallory, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1442090 ...though I didn't read through it to see if they found a solution.
[05:56] <avi_> Cloud_: And Windows and, well, I used to boot mac but it killed itself.. not because of rEFIt, but just because I hacked the living hell out of it. It always booted into safemode, and now it just stalls after login. I'm planning on erasing that parition, shrinking it, and reinstalling a vanilla OSX on it.
[05:56] <Cloud_> avi_: maybe its just permissions
[05:56] <avi_> Cloud_: Explain.
[05:56] <Cloud_> you could boot singleuser and cat the system.log
[05:57] <Cloud_> avi_: you mentioned that you hack stuff
[05:57] <shcherbak> iammisc press e while in grub, or edit gurb.cfg and grub-update
[05:57] <Cloud_> if you did stuff like replacing resources and the like
[05:57] <Cloud_> sometimes the permissions/owners arent set properly
[05:57] <iammisc> How do I disable automatic updates?
[05:57] <avi_> Cloud_: Well, I'd assume that I wouldn't have to do that, since it auto boots in safemode, which SHOULD do that, right?
[05:57] <Cloud_> and sometimes the hacked resources give the app indigestion and it bombs out
[05:57] <dougb_freebsd> mbrigdan: are you still looking for gpg help?
[05:58] <Cloud_> avi_: safemode wont help if a core executable keeps bombing out
[05:58] <Cloud_> X's safemode just disables some drivers and clears the kextcache (iirc)
[05:58] <avi_> Cloud_: And yeah, now that I think about it, that's probably the issue. I mod'd some art files (like the bootsplash) and changed some other stuff, but I didn't even think about permissions.
[05:58] <Cloud_> if Finder's having indigestion
[05:58] <Cloud_> then you'll just get blank screen after login
[05:58] <shcherbak> iammisc: update manager has option for it
[05:58] <avi_> Cloud_: I always thought that OS X safemode rebuilt directories and tried repairing permissions.
[05:58] <Cloud_> if you messed up loginwindow, then you'll get the blank screen with just a mouse cursor
[05:59] <avi_> Cloud_: No, it can login, but after it starts loading the DE it just stalls and I get SBOD'd.
[05:59] <Cloud_> maybe system.log will have some clues
[05:59] <shcherbak> iammisc: menu: system>admin..>update manager, synaptic may have option too
[06:00] <avi_> Cloud_: I honestly don't even have interest in mucking around with fixing it because I honestly want to nuke it anyway.. It has wayyy too much space that I could be using for Windows or Ubuntu.
[06:00] <avi_> Cloud_: Speaking of which, can Ext4 "grow" itself nonvoliality?
[06:00] <Cloud_> i see
[06:00] <mrpinky> Hi :D I installed gstreamer binaries on my machine with apt-get install blah, and it's all working well. Now I want to modify the sources, recompile and run the modified version. I can download the sources, modify, recompile, install, but it installs to a different location than the apt-get version. Is there a more appropriate way to do this?
[06:00] <Cloud_> avi_: beats me, I'm a linux n00b
[06:01] <Cloud_> i only turned to linux because OSX didn't want to compile ddwrt modkit
[06:01] <Cloud_> and i have no intention of using macports to install the libs that it needs
[06:01] <avi_> Cloud_: Right right I forgot. :) Because I know that HFS+ can like, absorb the windows bootcamp partition afterwords.
[06:01] <dumont> where can I find the Disk usage analyser in the KDE start menu?
[06:01] <john____> posted this earlier, but my firefox crashed so I missed if there was a reply: Hi.  I was wondering if this was possible: I have a disk with 200GB ish of data on it and I just got a new blank 1TB disk which I wanted to set up in RAID so that the size of the RAIDED volume was 1.2TB - is this possible without reformatting the 200GBdisk?
[06:01] <avi_> Cloud_: Ahh dd-wrt.. what kind of router are you using that on? I've been meaning to get a compatible one.
[06:02] <dumont> avi_ ^
[06:02] <Cloud_> WRT610N v2
[06:02] <dumont> where can I find the Disk usage analyser in the KDE start menu?
[06:02] <Cloud_> 480mhz MIPS 74K (whatever that is)
[06:02] <Cloud_> i wonder if 74k is faster than the r10000 of some sgi boxes
[06:02] <Cloud_> :p
[06:02] <Wiesshund> john its possible, but thats a risky unrecoverable way to set up a raid
[06:02] <administrator_>     ou mai gad
[06:03] <avi_> dumont: Sorry man I haven't a clue, I'm a Gnome guy. But I'm sure it's there, probably under a different but similarly titled name. You could also try booting to the Ubuntu livecd and running it from there.
[06:03] <Cloud_> avi_: would you believe it, i had to install linux to compile the modkit so i could get a copy of nano-mipsel onto the router
[06:03] <Wiesshund> John, oh no not with out reformating no
[06:03] <dumont> avi_ ITS A SERVER!!!!!
[06:03] <abhinav_singh> hey i am not able to open firefox in unbuntu.....when i am running firefox in terminal it is giving me following error Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dl-open.c: 611: _dl_open: Assertion `_dl_debug_initialize (0, args.nsid)->r_state == RT_CONSISTENT' failed!
[06:03] <avi_> Cloud_: Hah. Wait is that 610 or 160? Because I have the same model if the latter is true..
[06:03] <dumont> dedicated!
[06:03] <john____> thanks, I guess i will just need to reformat the disk
[06:03] <Cloud_> 610
[06:03] <avi_> dumont: Ah crud I keep forgetting..
[06:03] <Cloud_> siz-one-naught
[06:04] <Cloud_> six*
[06:04] <dougb_freebsd> couldn't you create the raid with the 1tb disk, copy the data over, then add the 200 gb disk to the raid array?
[06:04] <Wiesshund> John_ you do realize the risk of the raid your thinking of making right?
[06:04] <avi_> dumont: Well, I suppose if you managed to get KDE onto it, you could get Gnome onto it, right O.o?
[06:04] <dumont> no
[06:04] <avi_> Cloud_: Oh bummer. Was thinking you figured out a way to get that on a 160. ;)
[06:04] <Wiesshund> John_ if 1 drive fails you lose it all
[06:04] <Cloud_> avi_: i have no idea how to use toolchains so i couldnt compile my own nano, lucky a .deb of it meant for openwrt worked
[06:05] <avi_> Cloud_: Ah I see.
[06:05] <jlw> dumont, can't you just google kde compatible disk usage analyzers and then run it from command line once you've found the name? Assuming you have one installed at all?
[06:05] <Cloud_> it segfaults if you use certain functions though, i bet that's 'cause of not-so-compatible libs and stuff
[06:05] <avi_> jlw: dumont: That would make sense.
[06:05] <Cloud_> but at least I DONT HAVE TO USE VI ANYMORE YAY
[06:05] <Wiesshund> i hate vi
[06:05] <shcherbak> mouse in console (links2+vesa), help?
[06:05] <Cloud_> avi_: the 160 isn't compatible, at all
[06:05] <avi_> Cloud_: Really, I would think that once you know vi you don't wana go back..
[06:06] <avi_> Cloud_: yeah, so i've heard lol. That's why I asked again lol.
[06:06] <Wiesshund> avi_ me personaly? i know vi and i hate it, its clunky and unintuitive, and slow. for me anyways
[06:06] <Cloud_> avi_: do you know your hardware revision?
[06:07] <Cloud_> avi_: no way, in an age where even the cheapest netbooks have arrow keys, theres no reason to use vi anymore!
[06:07] <avi_> Wiesshund: Interesting. I personally can't use Vi for crud, but I can see why people would prefer it to nano.
[06:07] <Josesordo> someone is a expert in WineHQ?
[06:07] <Cloud_> unless you were trying to use it on an iphone, then it'd be an advantage :p
[06:07] <avi_> Cloud_: Yup, it's v2.
[06:08] <Cloud_> tough luck!
[06:08] <avi_> Cloud_: Yup. I was googling it and I'm like you have _got_ to be kidding me.. Just my luck..
[06:08] <Thqrmt> i'm trying to copy the entire file system using nautilus to an external hdd. I get an error about access to read a folder called "private". am I going about this wrong?
[06:09] <avi_> Thqrmt: Did you just go to / and control + a and click+drag?
[06:09] <Cloud_> avi_: thats why i went router shopping with my iphone in hand
[06:09] <Thqrmt> essentially, yes
[06:09] <Josesordo> I installed office 2007 with wine 1.2 and when I try to open Powerpoint or Word the application get freeze :(
[06:09] <Thqrmt> avi_
[06:09] <Cloud_> punching in all the router models into the ddwrt firmware page
[06:09] <avi_> Thqrmt: Ah. In gksu?
[06:09] <Cloud_> to see which one had the fastest cpu and was compatible
[06:09] <Thqrmt> avi_ donno what gksu refers to, i ram sudo nautilus and used that
[06:10] <avi_> Cloud_: See I'm only 14, and I was like 12 when I got that router, and I couldn't even tell you what an ubuntu was let alone custom router firmware :D Next time around I'll have to do that though.
[06:10] <avi_> Thqrmt: Yeah, it's graphical sudo. meaning nautilus as root.
[06:10] <Cloud_> avi_: when i was 13 i got a random wifi router for my new centrino laptop (at that time)
[06:11] <Cloud_> and guess what? it turned out to be a wrt54gs v3 or somthing
[06:11] <Cloud_> the one with the most RAM/flash of all the WRT54's
[06:11] <Thqrmt> avi_ now what I did precisely was open gksu select the files, then I clicked the hdd icon on desktop and dragged to a folder in there
[06:11] <Thqrmt> if that makes a difference
[06:11] <Cloud_> but it just had to burn out soon after
[06:11] <Cloud_> a year later i think
[06:11] <avi_> Thqrmt: and was this external HD mounted as root?
[06:12] <avi_> Cloud_: Lucky :D
[06:12] <Thqrmt> avi_ I doubt it because that doesnt sound familiar
[06:12] <Cloud_> no freaking way, i was so sad when it burnt out and all i could find by then were v7 units
[06:12] <Cloud_> the ones running vxworks with a pitiful amount of ram and flash
[06:13] <Cloud_> that could only run micro
[06:13] <avi_> Thqrmt: What filesystem is the ext HD using?
[06:13] <Thqrmt> avi_ NFST by necessity
[06:13] <Thqrmt> I may have to return it yes?
[06:13] <avi_> Thqrmt: Ahhh. That's your problem then.
[06:13] <Thqrmt> well I'm going to follow a guide to get nfst support
[06:13] <avi_> Thqrmt: Well wait a sec, is this like a blank HD for new backup systtems?
[06:13] <Thqrmt> will that work?
[06:13] <Thqrmt> yes
[06:13] <Thqrmt> they tried to put some BS software on there to auto backup and I formatted it away
[06:14] <avi_> Thqrmt: I'm no expert on NTFS or linux or whatever, but from personal experience, NTFS support, especially with a complex operation like that is always bound for the failbag.
[06:14] <Wiesshund> Ok guys here is your laugh for tonight, i just turned an 8gb video into 200gb :( /facepalm
[06:15] <Thqrmt> avi_ what are your thoughts on formatting in general
[06:15] <jlw> that's counter-productive, yes?
[06:15] <avi_> Thqrmt: If you're just going to use this drive for Ubuntu backups, consider A: formatting as native (ext4) and/or B: Using a GUI tool to make your life easier like DejaDup or backInTime
[06:15] <Thqrmt> avi_ I mean to ask what exactly is fat vs ntsfs
[06:15] <Cloud_> avi_: you are so like me back in 2006
[06:15] <Cloud_> except that i was using OSX instead of linux
[06:15] <Cloud_> LOL
[06:15] <avi_> Cloud_: Haha. Well I used to be the BIGGEST Apple fanboy ever. But now I despise them.
[06:15] <Thqrmt> avi_ no univeral storage space for xp/7/Ubuntu
[06:16] <Cloud_> i am not a fan of linux on desktops, i think linux is only well-behaved when put on embedded devices :p
[06:16] <avi_> Thqrmt: Well basically, NTFS is like FAT on steroids. FAT only let's you have single files as large as 4GB, and it's not as "smart" as ntfs.
[06:16] <Wiesshund> FAT also frags like a raped ape
[06:16] <Thqrmt> avi_ should all external devices be able to be formatted to Fat? I get errors every time but is there a linux program that's more forceful than windows?
[06:16] <Cloud_> avi_: but they're still the best out there though, albeit turning more and more to nazism
[06:17] <avi_> Thqrmt: Right right, if you need Windows compatibility NTFS is where it's at. Out of curiousity, why are you backing up / instead of ~?
[06:17] <dougb_freebsd> Thqrmt: what are you trying to accomplish?
[06:17] <Cloud_> idid you hear?? they are thinking to brick jailbroken iDevices remotely in the future
[06:17] <Wiesshund> Thqrmt it you need to have a universal FS for xp/7/linux i would use ntfs
[06:17] <Thqrmt> avi_ I'm just wiping all my computers clean for the time being and sorting through data at a later date
[06:18] <avi_> Cloud_: Well... That's debatable. As much as I hate to say it, I agree though with that mainly because it's.. well it's pretty rock solid. But for people who are fortuneate enough to be in the "know", like us, we have the luxury of using Linux, which, for me at least, is 10000x more functional and beautiful than OSX will/ever/was/will be.
[06:19] <abhinav_singh> how to uninstall mozilla in ubuntu
[06:19] <Cloud_> avi_: i don't quite agree with your last point :p
[06:19] <Cloud_> or your second last
[06:19] <avi_> Thqrmt: I see. Well, there's really not much doing in /. If you're looking to back up like documents and stuff, that's usually in ~.
[06:19] <Cloud_> for the second last, i'd describe it as "open-ended and expandable"
[06:19] <Cloud_> but not functional
[06:19] <Thqrmt> avi_ ?
[06:20] <avi_> Cloud_: Well.. I can do everything on Linux I can do on OSX with more freedom to muck around with it. How not functional?
[06:20] <avi_> Thqrmt: Well, what were these computers used for?
[06:20] <Cloud_> avi_: i think everybody has different definitions of "functional"
[06:20] <Cloud_> for me, functional is "getting it right without too much mucking"
[06:20] <avi_> Cloud_: No doubt. For me it's geek-factor and sex appeal lol.
[06:20] <avi_> Cloud_: Aha.
[06:21] <Thqrmt> avi_ me doing stuff, to summarize.
[06:21] <S4ry> Hello ubuntu
[06:21] <Cloud_> ubuntu works, but typically only after "googling the problem text"
[06:21] <Cloud_> for example, making shortcuts
[06:21] <avi_> Thqrmt: Because I don't really see the point of backing the whole /... User documents and stuff is in ~.
[06:22] <avi_> Cloud_: I disagree, but go on, what about shortcuts?
[06:22] <Cloud_> in mac i can just drag while holding command-opt
[06:22] <akaruz> Cloud_,  im agree with avi_ becouse im too using linux ubuntu and when im using it :D im really feel that im working on a real pc: D
[06:22] <abhinav_singh> how to uninstall firefox in ubuntu
[06:22] <Cloud_> in ubuntu, for some reason, the make link button is disabled if the source directory isnt writable
[06:22] <Cloud_> therefore, i have to open terminal and do a ln-s
[06:22] <Cloud_> ln -s*
[06:22] <S4ry> Whats wrong with maverick iso , i installed it and there was no GUI for the Live -CD
[06:22] <Thqrmt> avi_ i understand, system files vs user files. so what exactly do I select in gksu to do that? (thanks btdubz)
[06:22] <avi_> Cloud_: Which is the better solution always... Symbolic links > all lol.
[06:22] <logan_wolf> abhinav_singh, what version are you using
[06:23] <Cloud_> avi_: now explain that to the 50 year old average uncle next door? :p
[06:23] <avi_> Thqrmt: Well, all gksudo does is launch nautilus as the root user, obviously. This can, in my experience, fix lots of write problems with NTFS formatted drives.
[06:24] <shcherbak> how explain blue screen to anyone?
[06:24] <rww> S4ry: Maverick discussion and support are in #ubuntu+1, not here.
[06:24] <Cloud_> grub hates my guts
[06:24] <Thqrmt> avi_ what did you mean with the tilde? what does that refer to?
[06:24] <Cloud_> why is it giving me all widescreen resolutions on a 4:3 screen?!
[06:24] <Cloud_> http://i35.tinypic.com/2a8j05f.png
[06:24] <Thqrmt> avi_ i am infering that / refers to the root folder
[06:24] <S4ry> rww, :) thanks mate
[06:25] <avi_> Thqrmt: So if you haven't already tried that, I'd reccomend doing that before you go on and hit the forums, because that's about all the help I can offer I'm afraid, I'm no expert on filesystems or nautilus's inner workings :)
[06:25] <logan_wolf> abhinav_singh, if you are working on lucid you can do it simply through software centre
[06:25] <avi_> Cloud_: The ~ is the universal shortcut for /home/$user, like /home/bob
[06:25] <avi_> Thqrmt: ah that last comment was ment for yoy.
[06:26] <Thqrmt> yeah I got it now
[06:26] <Thqrmt> all is clear
[06:26] <avi_> Thqrmt: Good good.
[06:26] <Cloud_> avi_: huh?
[06:26] <Cloud_> i didn't ask anything about home directories
[06:26] <avi_> Cloud_: Wrong person sorry ^^
[06:26] <avi_> Dang irssi.
[06:26] <Cloud_> use xchat!!
[06:27] <avi_> Cloud_: I normally do, but I'm feeling rather 1337ish today. :D
[06:27] <abhinav_singh> logan_wolf 10.04
[06:27] <artinfrieden> Hi, what *iso do I need, if I want to encrypt the whole computer while installing Ubuntu?
[06:27] <Cloud_> avi_: if you're feeling 1337ish, try to do as much computing as possible on an embedded device running linux
[06:27] <Cloud_> =p
[06:28] <avi_> Cloud_: Bahaha.
[06:28] <Cloud_> with your computer acting strictly as a dumb terminal
[06:28] <avi_> Cloud_: I'd rather try breaking my teeth on installing Gentoo... WITH NO GUIDE/GOOGLE.
[06:28] <Cloud_> oh hell no gentoo
[06:28] <Cloud_> i could never get anything more than pure textmode working properly
[06:29] <avi_> Cloud_: Lol. Gentoo is seriously overkill for desktops. I mean HONESTLY, who needs to compile desktop apps from source?
[06:29] <rww> bored people
[06:29] <avi_> Cloud_: I totally get it on distributed and managed computing, but not for desktop use..
[06:29] <abhinav_singh> logan_wolf are you there?
[06:29] <Cloud_> avi_: people trying to boil water with their cpu cores
[06:29] <avi_> rofl.
[06:29] <rww> artinfrieden: alternate CD. The desktop CD will only encrypt your home directory.
[06:29] <artinfrieden> I once cooled a CPU with ice cubes inside a plastik foiul
[06:29] <avi_> Arch is about the line between usefullness and un needed 1337ness.
[06:30] <avi_> Niice.
[06:30] <Cloud_> i like debian better
[06:30] <artinfrieden> rww: thank you very much!
[06:30] <avi_> sudo apt-get install fireextinguisher.
[06:30] <logan_wolf> abhinav_singh, yes tell me
[06:30] <avi_> Cloud_: Absolutely.. debian > all.
[06:30] <logan_wolf> abhinav_singh, 10.4 is called lucid
[06:31] <grendal_prime> man this whole google voice thing is making me crazy...
[06:31] <avi_> Cloud_: And I really find myself having no reasons to use Arch/Debian.. Ubuntu is just so.. elegant. Like upstart and Software Center and the out-of-the-box gnome config..
[06:31] <shcherbak> hm
[06:31] <logan_wolf> abhinav_singh, and the uninstall of firefox can be done through ubuntu software centre.
[06:31] <Cloud_> avi_: i only ended up with ubuntu because of vmware support
[06:32] <Cloud_> and i got tired of using a gentoo livecd and saving VM state
[06:32] <Cloud_> or downloading everything and compiling every time i wanted to make changes
[06:32] <avi_> Cloud_: Well, Ubuntu is the best imo, for basically everything.
[06:32] <Cloud_> i still prefer OSX
[06:33] <Cloud_> or windows XP (suck that vista and 7)
[06:33] <avi_> Cloud_: Canonical has a nice dose of Apple-mentality -- the good ones that is.
[06:33] <dougb_freebsd> that's what's great about having choices :)
[06:33] <avi_> Cloud_: Interesting.. why XP > 7?
[06:33] <avi_> dougb_freebsd: :D
[06:33] <IdleOne> !ot | avi_  Cloud_
[06:33] <Marikawn> Does anyone's startup sound skip when they log in? I would like to fix it
[06:34] <FyreFoX> hi I'm running lucid and have installed KVM, when I try connect to the console of a vm I get RunConsole:77 : unable to open tty /dev/pts/5: Permission denied
[06:34] <avi_> Marikawn: Skip? Like the audio skips or it doesn't play?
[06:34] <Cloud_> avi_: because I have been using "traditional windows" for so long, I am accustomed to it already
[06:34] <Cloud_> 7 has all those new stuff, yeah they're good
[06:34] <Marikawn> The audio skips, like a broken record
[06:34] <avi_> Cloud_: Ah. Well I like W7. But IdleOne is right, it is OT.
[06:34] <Cloud_> but often they're kludged for backwards compat
[06:34] <Marikawn> I'm running 10.4
[06:34] <mrpinky> Hi, regarding https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdk-pixbuf/+question/91632, how can I find out which package replaces this removed one?
[06:34] <avi_> Marikawn: Hmm, nope, have you tried googling it?
[06:35] <abhinav_singh> i am using ubuntu 10.04.please help me how to uninstall firefox
[06:35] <Cloud_> like stuff always ending up in weird locations due to the UAC virtualizing the filesystem
[06:35] <Cloud_> if you know what I mean
[06:35] <Marikawn> yes but no luck
[06:35] <avi_> abhinav_singh: Sudo apt-get remove firefox
[06:35] <avi_> Marikawn: Hmmph. That's strage. And sound works fine once you're loggin in?
[06:35] <avi_> logged*
[06:35] <hendaus> hi
[06:35] <Marikawn> that's correct
[06:35] <nisstyre65> abhinav_singh: apt-get remove firefox ?
[06:35] <avi_> Cloud_: Yeah.
[06:36] <avi_> Marikawn: That is pretty odd.. are you looking to fix it? Because it's very easy to disable it, if it's bothersome to you.
[06:36] <Cloud_> and all those hard links made by default all over the place, grr
[06:36] <Cloud_> example: Documents and Settings link to Users
[06:36] <Cloud_> and so on
[06:36] <Cloud_> why change it in the first place?!
[06:36] <IdleOne> Cloud_ I really don't want to be a pain but please move this convo to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[06:36] <Marikawn> Well I know that I can disable all of the system sounds but I just wanted to know if anyone else had this problem, I prefer to fix it
[06:36] <Marikawn> but no biggie
[06:37] <avi_> Cloud_: yeah, he's right. We're kind of flooding the chat.
[06:37] <Cloud_> IdleOne: ... eh?
[06:37] <Cloud_> did I cross a line here?!
[06:37] <IdleOne> Cloud_: this channel is for Ubuntu support.
[06:37] <IdleOne> #ubuntu-offtopic is a nice place where you can chat
[06:37] <hendaus> can anyone tell me how to load a sound.wav on weechat query?
[06:37] <rww> Cloud_: #ubuntu is for support discussion. #ubuntu-offtopic is for everything else that's within our guidelines. You wandered into the "everything else..." territory
[06:37] <rww> IdleOne: s/nice/habitable/
[06:37] <Cloud_> oh i see, heh!
[06:38] <Cloud_> sorry
[06:38] <abhinav_singh> i tried to uninstall firefox using apt-get remove firefox but it is having lot of dependecies.....what to do please help mw
[06:38] <IdleOne> rww: thanks for the correction
[06:38] <nisstyre65> abhinav_singh: are you saying other programs depend on firefox?
[06:38] <avi_> Marikawn: right right. I don't really know how to help you then, I'm afriad :(
[06:38] <djbasic> hello
[06:38] <Cloud_> now for some ontopic chat, how do I get my framebuffer working?
[06:38] <abhinav_singh> nisstyre65:yes
[06:38] <djbasic> any1 help me
[06:38] <Cloud_> hopefully the kernel has had framebuffer support compiled in
[06:38] <avi_> !ask | djbasic
[06:38] <Marikawn> no worries, thank you
[06:39] <rodeo_> Avi: I am back!
[06:39] <djbasic> oh ok
[06:39] <nisstyre65> abhinav_singh: then you can't remove firefox without removing the programs that supposedly depend on it
[06:39] <djbasic> my bad
[06:39] <systm_> my mouse pad isn't being recognized, is there a way to probe for it without rebooting?
[06:39] <avi_> rodeo_: Refresh my memory, who are you :-)
[06:39] <rodeo_> Well your solution for desktop search, a few hours before! remember
[06:39] <avi_> rodeo_: ah ah ah! I remember. How'd that work out?
[06:39] <rodeo_> You told me Tracker
[06:40] <kevin__> anyone know anything about RAM and voltage requirements?
[06:40] <avi_> rodeo_: Right tracker and beagle.
[06:40] <djbasic> well my hard drive is taking a crap but it shows up in live cd but i also cant mount it or open it
[06:40] <abhinav_singh> wait i am giving you package list firefox-branding,firefox-gnome-support:, google-talkplugin:
[06:40] <avi_> djbasic: Like hardware failure?
[06:40] <abhinav_singh> nisstyre65
[06:40] <djbasic> yupp
[06:40] <rodeo_> Avi; Well thats good for file searching, what about the applications?
[06:40] <avi_> djbasic: Well, what do you want us to do about it ;) Back it up asap!
[06:40] <djbasic> but the harddrive works now and then
[06:40] <avi_> rodeo_: Ah, like an application launcher?
[06:40] <nisstyre65> abhinav_singh: you've got to remove those programs first then
[06:41] <rww> kevin__: try ##hardware (which would require you to register with nickserv) or #ubuntu-offtopic (which wouldn't)
[06:41] <rodeo_> Yeah, the way you have it in mint,
[06:41] <djbasic> only like the first part of the hard drive  is thier any way i can pass the bad sectors
[06:41] <abhinav_singh> nisstyre65:can you please help me how to remove these programs
[06:41] <dougb_freebsd> is there a way to tell nautilus, et al, to display information in power of 2 units, instead of base 10 units?
[06:41] <nisstyre65> abhinav_singh: use the same command you used before except with each of those package names
[06:41] <nisstyre65> instead of 'firefox'
[06:42] <rodeo_> See I went on installing applications, but these have not been updated in the list as it should
[06:42] <rodeo_> Avi you got my point
[06:42] <avi_> rodeo_: Well I've no real experience in mint, not can I explain the software list not updating. however, I can say that a fantastic app launcher is Gnome-Do.
[06:43] <avi_> rodeo_: Simply start typing the name of an app, and it finds it and then hit enter to launch it.
[06:43] <rodeo_> how do I go for it
[06:43] <avi_> rodeo_: sudo apt-get install gnome-do
[06:43] <avi_> rodeo_: Or search in software center
[06:43] <djbasic> so avi is thier any way to fix it my self
[06:43] <rodeo_> Avi: let me try that! I will be back with results
[06:44] <avi_> djbasic: I personally can't think of a way, and even if I could, I probably wouldn't because it's likely to make things worse.
[06:44] <avi_> rodeo_: good luck!
[06:44] <avi_> djbasic: Consider bringing it into a local computer shop.
[06:44] <djbasic> well i love to try if u can point me in the right directions i can fig. it out since im getting a new one soon
[06:44] <djbasic> dont hurt
[06:45] <djbasic> no way im cheap
[06:45] <djbasic> i think i should go back to ITT
[06:46] <avi_> djbasic: Ah I see. Well to be honest, I really don't know much about how to repair hard drives. I only know that there's a number of audio indicators that can let you know what's going on, or, it might be a local failure, which should have a somewhat easy fix.
[06:46] <avi_> djbasic: ITT?
[06:47] <djbasic> yeah ..ITT i got dropped for attendance
[06:47] <djbasic> oh well been swell chatting thanks AVI
[06:47] <avi_> djbasic: :D sure.
[06:48] <rodeo_> avi: it worked, thanks man, I am relieved now
[06:48] <avi_> rodeo_: Great! Gnome-Do is a fantasic little app, I use it 100x a day, seriously. :D
[06:48] <scott---> you guys know what's really annoying? Default trackpad behavior ;)
[06:49] <rodeo_> avi: Well thanks a lot, with you people around, I think I won't remain a new bee for long, will come back to trouble you with more problems if I do face
[06:49] <avi_> rodeo_: Lol you sound like me a year ago! Good luck man.
[06:49] <scott---> rodeo_: it's best to just idle in #ubuntu
[06:49] <Guest96668> hola
[06:50] <nisstyre65> scott---: I wonder if the drivers used for most trackpads are generic
[06:50] <Guest96668> !!
[06:50] <scott---> there's really no limit to what can be learned
[06:50] <rodeo_> avi: Thanks once again
[06:50] <Guest96668> alguna peruana
[06:50] <lwl> hi - i am unable to get my computer to boot from the iso cd I made.  did i do something wrong on the cd?
[06:50] <Guest96668> ??
[06:50] <nisstyre65> you might be able to use different ones
[06:50] <FloodBot3> Guest96668: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:50] <rodeo_> Bye for now!
[06:50] <avi_> scott---: So true.
[06:50] <avi_> rodeo_: Peace.
[06:50] <Guest96668> so false
[06:50] <scott---> nisstyre65: I think you're right.. I'm going to use the mystical powers of google.
[06:55] <avi_> Ah nuts. I've gotta go. bye all!
[06:57] <fruitwerks> ok for some reason, my monitor no longer passes the resolution data to the video card, so I have a new install and I am stuck ni 1024x768, the monitor is old, but it can do 2048xsomething, where can I specify my modelines
[06:59] <lwl> need help installing lucid 10.04
[06:59] <SoulHook> ?
[06:59] <fruitwerks> ... a problem might lead to an solution :)
[07:00] <lwl> idealy
[07:04] <ychoucha> hello
[07:06] <mcrawfor> hi
[07:06] <Gnea> lwl: so install it, what's the hold up?
[07:06] <mcrawfor> is there a way i can install the netbook edition on my laptop and choose between it and gnome when I login?
[07:06] <mcrawfor> like you can do with kde/gnome or something like that?
[07:06] <lwl> it will not boot the computer from the cd
[07:06] <Gnea> mcrawfor: the netbook edition uses gnome already
[07:07] <Gnea> lwl: so tell the computer to boot from the cd
[07:07] <S4ry> Excuse me
[07:07] <lwl> did that in the bios
[07:07] <Gnea> okay
[07:07] <Gnea> S4ry: for?
[07:07] <S4ry> Whats the maverick channel !
[07:07] <Gnea> #maverick ?
[07:07] <mcrawfor> Gnea: well, okay
[07:07] <S4ry> Yep , thanks Gnea
[07:07] <brun> Hello,
[07:08] <mcrawfor> but do you get what I'm asking? I want to choose between the normal gnome desktop and the netbook ui
[07:08] <brun> how to enable expired root account in ubuntu 8.10 ?
[07:08] <S4ry> For the Alpha !
[07:08] <Gnea> lwl: so does it even try to boot the cd before heading into the hdd?
[07:08] <lwl> Gnea: no
[07:08] <rww> S4ry: #ubuntu+1
[07:09] <lwl> Gnea: and if I try to 'run' the iso file the computer wants to know what program to use
[07:09] <S4ry> rww, :) thats the one .. i though i saved it to my favorites  !
[07:09] <Gnea> lwl: does the system give you the option of pressing F12?
[07:09] <lwl> Gnea: i downloaded the iso file on one machine and burned a cd, that's what i am attempting to boot from
[07:10] <lwl> Gnea: yes, i''ve tried that as well
[07:10] <brun> can any one tell me, how to re enable the expired username in ubuntu 8.10 ?
[07:10] <lwl> Gnea: it still will not boot from the cd
[07:11] <lwl> Gnea: i have a corupted windows xp pro on the computer now
[07:11] <Gnea> lwl: when the system boots up, and if you try to 'explore' the cd, do you get a lot of files & directories or just one file?
[07:11] <rww> brun: 1) Ubuntu 8.10 is no longer receiving security updates and is not supported in this channel; please upgrade to a newer version. 2) Enabling the root account is not supported by this channel; please see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for the reasons and more information.
[07:11] <Gnea> lwl: how 'corrupt'?
[07:12] <rww> ubottu: eol | brun
[07:12] <lwl> i uninstalled sp2 and now would not boot to windows
[07:12] <jellow> can someone do me a favour  and see if you get can get a response from ssh 178.33.8.215 -p 2222?
[07:13] <Gnea> lwl: so how are you on irc?
[07:13] <lwl> on my laptop, not my desktop
[07:13] <Gnea> okay
[07:13] <rww> jellow: nope
[07:13] <ReadPlease> What's up, people?  I ordered a CD from shipit.ubuntu.com, and I was wondering if I did it properly?
[07:13] <Gnea> lwl: I'd recommend #windows to attempt to troubleshoot the non-booting issue for xp pro
[07:13] <lwl> does the iso file need to be 'unziped' first?
[07:14] <Gnea> er
[07:14] <ReadPlease> lwl, try #computersupport on undernet.
[07:14] <Gnea> it's not zipped to begin with, but it needs to be burnt correctly
[07:14] <KB1JWQ> ReadPlease: I assure you I wasn't involved with that conversation. :-)
[07:14] <Gnea> ReadPlease: why undernet?
[07:14] <Gnea> ReadPlease: we have #windows here on freenode
[07:14] <ReadPlease> Because it's got the best computersupport channel.
[07:15] <brun> rww : enableing root in ubuntu is not the part of community base support ?
[07:15] <Gnea> #windows is better and good enough, this conversation is over.
[07:15] <jellow> rww: thanks just checking before i harrased my vps proider
[07:15] <ReadPlease> Gnea, it's not better.  I've frequented them both for years.  #computersupport is the best on IRC.
[07:15] <lwl> Gnea:  thanks much
[07:15] <rww> brun: No. We support sudo instead. Again, see the link I provided.
[07:15] <ReadPlease> Now the conversation is over
[07:16] <fruitwerks> how do I setup persistent network connections for wired devices? when I logout, my connections drop
[07:16] <jplp> bonjour
[07:16] <Gnea> lwl: do you have a cdburner in your laptop?
[07:16] <ReadPlease> Aw, man.  It takes 4-6 weeks to deliver.  Now I've gotta get my mail forwarded. :P
[07:17] <rww> ReadPlease: We don't have anything to do with shipit, it's a Canonical thing. Try info@shipit.ubuntu.com.
[07:17] <ReadPlease> KB1JWQ: it tells you at the ubuntu site (maybe there's a cookie or something), the status of your oders. :D
[07:17] <KB1JWQ> ReadPlease: Why not just download and burn it yourself?
[07:17] <fruitwerks> jplp - I have everything set in /etc/conf.d/networking and that is how I want it.. I have a fully static setup
[07:21] <fruitwerks> ... seriously
[07:21] <fruitwerks> I can't have a gui open 24/7
[07:21] <nsar> hello
[07:22] <nsar> i am using ubuntu 10 and the mobile broadband connection appear only in the user that had created it even it is available for all users
[07:22] <S4ry> nsar, Hlaa
[07:22] <nsar> how can i fix this?
[07:23]  * fruitwerks sounds like this answer might help me
[07:23] <S4ry> nsar, i have no clue
[07:23] <linkel> hi
[07:23] <nsar> i didn't ask only you S4ry
[07:23] <S4ry> hey
[07:23] <nsar> any way thank you
[07:24] <S4ry> lol
[07:24] <S4ry> Okay
[07:24] <fruitwerks> looks like a bad time for help right now
[07:24] <nsar> bug i guess
[07:24] <piotr_> spox
[07:24] <Gnea> S4ry: if you don't know, you don't have to answer.
[07:25] <S4ry> nsar, if it a bug you can search for it in Launchpad
[07:25] <i_is_broke> fruitwerks, why cant you have a gui open 24/7 i do
[07:25] <S4ry> Gnea, i know .. i had to cuz i said hello to him first
[07:26] <nsar> launchpad?
[07:26] <Gnea> nsar: have you looked at all of the options in network manager? should be one there to have it run the connection even if you're not logged in
[07:26] <Gnea> !bug
[07:27] <tasslehoff> What package gives me the network manager/monitor in the system tray?
[07:27] <nsar> yes i did only me as nsar appears XX:Xx:Xx PANU no other user and when i try to make a new connection it is asking a keyring password that i don't know which one is
[07:28] <Gnea> !info network-manager
[07:28] <nsar> automatic no. it a cellphone i make the connection manually on demand
[07:28] <Gnea> if it's manually on demand, then that's how it will remain.
[07:28] <fruitwerks> how do I make persistent connections?
[07:29] <Gnea> unless you change its behavior from where you set it as such
[07:29] <Gnea> fruitwerks: to?
[07:29] <nsar> you mean when i login it will connect alone?
[07:29] <fruitwerks> I have two wired connections, when I leave my GUI - they disconnect
[07:29] <Gnea> that's usually how it works, is it not working like that now?
[07:30] <Gnea> fruitwerks: look in the network manager settings
[07:30] <Gnea> there's something to be clicked there - don't recall what it is because I use wicd
[07:31] <nsar> no i connect when i need it like right now, but no other user can start the connection and i don't know why even though the connection is available to all users
[07:31] <Besogon> Who of you uses lxde or kde? I want to know an output of a command "echo $GDMSESSION && echo $XDG_CONFIG_DIRS" for these environments
[07:32] <Gnea> nsar: oh, I'm sorry, I misunderstood what you were saying. Have you looked into the users & groups to make sure that other users are checked out for dialup and networking-related groups?
[07:34] <S4ry> nsar,
[07:34] <ghostnik11> hi i am trying to make a bootable recovery disk through ubuntu for an thinkpad t20 that has a bios password and a hard drive password on it and i don't know
[07:35] <S4ry> nsar, looking for something like this .. http://bit.ly/dzWdw
[07:35] <Gnea> ghostnik11: I don't know either.
[07:35] <ghostnik11> i have the files but i don't know if it is as simple as putting the files on floopy disk then putting in t20
[07:35] <ghostnik11> gnea: very funny
[07:35] <S4ry> Gnea, you shouldn't answer if you don't know :)
[07:36] <Gnea> ghostnik11: sorry :)
[07:36] <fruitwerks> I think half the 'people' taling in here are bots right now
[07:36] <Besogon> nsar, you shouldn't use NetworkManager if the computer is used my some users. I think
[07:36] <rww> fruitwerks: How does half the people taling in here are bots right now make you feel?
[07:36] <ghostnik11> gnea: its cool you can cut jokes if you want, trust me even i have laughed at my self about this situation
[07:36] <Gnea> ghostnik11: I would first make backup images of the floppy disks (the physical disks are extremely unreliable in the long run)
[07:36] <S4ry> rww, :)
[07:36] <maco> rww++
[07:37] <Gnea> ghostnik11: (but I'm sure you knew that)
[07:37] <Gnea> S4ry: :p
[07:37] <ghostnik11> gnea: yeah i have the backups its just that the t20 only has a floopy drive
[07:37] <Gnea> ghostnik11: awesome.
[07:38] <Gnea> ghostnik11: so what are you looking to restore?
[07:38] <Gnea> just basic bootup functionality with a kernel, maybe some modules and an MBR?
[07:38] <fruitwerks> ok well I logout of my GUI and I loose NAT because the private ip NIC is set to a down state
[07:39] <fruitwerks> so I can restart networking, or log back in.. I can't have that
[07:39] <ghostnik11> gnea: i am actually seeing if i can get to the restore screen will i then be able to erase the bios and hard drive passwords on t20
[07:40] <Gnea> ghostnik11: why not just reset the bios?
[07:40] <ghostnik11> gnea: i tried took out battery plus cmos battery and still won't reset
[07:41] <Gnea> ghostnik11: there isn't a manual online that explains the correct procedure?
[07:42] <setuid> Is it possible to enable Hibernate on a system with 8GB ram, 4GB swap, 8GB swap _file_, on the main (root) partition?
[07:42] <setuid> ...or must hibernate use a swap _partition_ only?
[07:43] <Gnea> ghostnik11: or you could try this password: merlin
[07:43] <ghostnik11> gnea: nope just an old ibm thinkpad laptop, the thing is there are ways to get the bios password removed but require paying someone else to do it and I mean come on i have been on ubuntu and linux for a year, i refuse to go back to the windows ideology of paying to get something down in the computer world, thats why smart people made linux because it is free and teaches people how to really use computers
[07:43] <ghostnik11> gnea: i tried merlin doesn't work as backdoor bios password
[07:43] <baba> is tab candy available for linux?
[07:44] <fruitwerks> ghostnik11 - pop it open and pull the cmos battery
[07:44] <Gnea> ghostnik11: and nilrem doesn't work either?
[07:44] <ghostnik11> fruitwerks: did that already in fact it has not had the cmos battery in it for over months
[07:45] <Gnea> fruitwerks: doesn't work
[07:45] <ghostnik11> gnea: what is nilrem
[07:45] <Gnea> ghostnik11: merlin spelled backwards
[07:45] <ghostnik11> gnea: i am going to try that right will be back
[07:46] <S4ry> baba, what you mean !
[07:47] <ghostnik11> gnea: thanks but doesn't work
[07:47] <baba> I'm looking for a text editor + ftp
[07:47] <baba> to use for webdev
[07:48] <Gnea> ghostnik11:  have you read this manual? http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/migr-4uym3f.html
[07:49] <S4ry> baba, i believe there is .. IglooFTP
[07:49] <rww> baba: set up FTP on Places -> Connect To Server, then use any gvfs-enabled editor (such as gedit) for editing.
[07:49] <S4ry> :)
[07:50] <baba> rww, i believe the windows and ubuntu direct FTP connections are slow
[07:50] <baba> because they don't use accelerators apparently, like filezilla, etc
[07:50] <rww> :\
[07:51] <Karen_m> box1 [100Mb]    =>   box2 [1Gb]  (11MB/sec)      box2 [1Gb] => box1 [100Mb]   (2MB/sec), what would cause this?  bad traceroute path from box2->box1?  or not configured sysctl values?
[07:52] <ghostnik11> gnea: thanks but still no help, says if bios/supervisor password is forgotten there is no way to recover it and i must send it in for a mother board replacement at a service fee
[07:52] <Gnea> ghostnik11: is it a 2647 or a 2648? (the sub-model #?)
[07:53] <mcrawfor> in case anyone was curious about the netbook thin
[07:53] <mcrawfor> thing
[07:53] <ghostnik11> gnea: 2647
[07:53] <mcrawfor> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UNR
[07:53] <mcrawfor> i found a meta-package called ubuntu-netbook-remix in apt, and installing that gave me all the needed packages
[07:53] <mcrawfor> i ran the ones in that list individually and got things going
[07:53] <Gnea> ghostnik11: and the 2-digit number and single letter?  like 21Y or something similar?
[07:53] <mcrawfor> 'night
[07:54] <ghostnik11> gnea: 86u
[07:54] <Karen_m> is there a console browser that supports javascript so I can do a speedtest?
[07:55] <Gnea> ghostnik11: have a look: http://tinyurl.com/329ceb3
[07:56] <MohammadRRR> Hi , How can i remove language icon from tray ?
[07:56] <Gnea> MohammadRRR: right click on it, then 'remove'
[07:57] <MohammadRRR> there is not any 'remove' choise !
[07:57] <S4ry> MohammadRRR, Remove the layout from Keyboard
[07:59] <S4ry> Why whould someone want to remove .. never mind
[08:00] <itsux2bu> i'm do this.. "LiveUsbPendrivePersistent" its telling me to run "Universal USB-Installer"..  the thing i don't have a feel for is how much to allocate for Persistence..  choices being.. 1GB Casper-RW, 2GB Casper-RW, 3GB Casper-RW, 4GB Casper-RW.. my usb pendrive is 4gb.. so if i choose that amount there won't be any room for the .iso..  i want lots of Persistance space.. 3 or 4?
[08:00] <itsux2bu> *doing
[08:02] <ghostnik11> gnea: found something it says i should just insert recovery diskette into computer then turn on and follow instructions, right now i have windows 2000 recovery files and put them on a floopy disk but i don't know if it is that simple they are in exe file format or should i put them in image file format then put them on floopy
[08:04] <shcherbak>  
[08:04] <Gnea> ghostnik11: I'm thinking make the image file format then put it on the floppy
[08:04] <ghostnik11> gnea: okay will do that then, will be back
[08:05] <S4ry> ghostnik11, hope things work for ya :)
[08:07] <emperium> 'morning guys
[08:07] <emperium> I have this problem with vlc player
[08:08] <emperium> when i put it on fullscreen mode, the picture still remains at the same size as you can see on this printscreen http://twitpic.com/2jhxkb
[08:09] <emperium> anyone has the same problem? any clues how to solve it? thankx
[08:09] <ZykoticK9> emperium, i don't use VLC, but try changing your Output type from x11 to xv or GL
[08:10] <CompuTom> I have installed AVG antivirus but it is not listed as an installed program anywhere. The deb installer says it has installed successfully but how do I access the program?
[08:12] <hiexpo> !virus
[08:12] <Araneidae> Is there a minimum system requirements documented for Ubuntu anywhere?
[08:12] <Take0n> Is there a way to edit the gnome-panel in ubuntu netbook edition? I mausing 10.04 and want it to be transparent.. I've changed some entries in the theme I am using but I don't know how to change the panel to show color instead of image so that I can make it transparent
[08:12] <itsux2bu> emperium, in the windows version i use.. there's a Aspect Ratio  i use to fill in the "black" area
[08:13] <nikolam> CompuTom, there is clamtk. tun with gksu clamtk for updates.
[08:13] <ZykoticK9> Araneidae, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[08:13] <Araneidae> How much space does a Netbook install take up?  My target space is rather small...
[08:13] <Araneidae> ZykoticK9, thanks.
[08:13] <itsux2bu> emperium, depending on the source of the video.. tv 4:3.. movie 16:9
[08:13] <Araneidae> Ought to be linked from the front page somewhere
[08:14] <Take0n> Araneidae, define small?
[08:14] <Araneidae> Well, I might have 4GB of flash
[08:15] <nikolam> Araneidae, if it is also other, memory considerations, you could also try Xubunut or , better Lxde evnironment.
[08:15] <Araneidae> Is there a list of supported netbooks anywhere?  Mine is an Acer Aspire One
[08:15] <Take0n> I don't think there would be a problem Araneidae
[08:16] <Araneidae> The original one with flash disk and the crappy Linpus install
[08:16] <ZykoticK9> Araneidae, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Netbooks
[08:16] <pfifo> OK heres a tough one, Im still running 9.10, but I am in need of libc6 2.11 or better for a cross-compiler that I built in 10.04. Is there an easy way to upgrade libc6?
[08:16] <Araneidae> ZykoticK9, these links are great -- but why can't I find them? ;/
[08:17] <gartral> pfifo: no.. thats a real pain
[08:17] <Take0n> guys so is there a way to make the panel in ubuntu netbook transparent+
[08:17] <pfifo> gartral, if by pain you mean compiling from source, thats easy. whats this involve?
[08:17] <gartral> pfifo: unless you forked a seperate configuration for just your compiler.. with is also a pain
[08:17] <gartral> pfifo: recompileing half of ubuntu
[08:17] <Araneidae> Hmm.  Model no ZGS.  I wonder what that means...
[08:18] <fruitwerks> I just did a fairly feature packed install on an atom based mobo.. using 3.3gb on /
[08:18] <Araneidae> fruitwerks, that's promising
[08:19] <fruitwerks> server / desktop hybrid with way more than the defaults
[08:19] <pfifo> gartral, ok heres how it stands, i can rebuild the whole cross-compiler toolchain and about 150 libs. Upgrade libc6. Failing that I can also go back to 10.04 and it should work.
[08:19] <emperium> ZykoticK9 the problem is that my laptop's graphic card is a sis 671 shared
[08:19] <Araneidae> Actually (putting specs on), it's a ZG5, not one of the listed ones
[08:19] <emperium> and it sucks as you know it
[08:19] <fruitwerks> using ~600mb of ram with all the services running and actually serving
[08:20] <itsux2bu> fruitwerks, i've done a desktop/server hybrid
[08:20] <ZykoticK9> emperium, that could be the issue then.  i don't really know much about sis - but i get the idea support isn't that good...  best of luck.
[08:21] <emperium> oki thank ZykoticK9
[08:21] <fruitwerks> Araneidae: how much ram does it have?
[08:21] <emperium> i'll check it somewhere else
[08:21] <pfifo> I love my cross compiler, but the thing is so hard to build and tweak just perfectly that I really DO NOT want to rebuild it. However Im not a fan of 10.04 yet so Id rather use it in 9.10
[08:22] <Araneidae> fruitwerks, it looks fine: it's got 512M RAM, and it appears to have 6.5G of flash ... according to `df -h`, actually don't think I altogether believe that
[08:22] <emperium> itsux2bu: is tvrip hd
[08:23] <fruitwerks> you will indeed need some swap then... might be fine for light use
[08:23] <emperium> itsux2bu: when I use MS windows I don't get this issue, only on ubuntu 10.04 and i used to have also on 9.10
[08:24] <Araneidae> Wasn't planning on giving it swap, very unhappy about swapping to flash: what's the wear count on modern flash drives?
[08:24] <itsux2bu> Araneidae, its a moving target
[08:28] <mmm4m5m> Hi all. My keyboard have 3 buttons: power off, sleep, wake up. Only power off is working (asking me what to do, like Alt+Ctrl+Del). How to disable it? It is ubuntu hardy, this shortcut (0xde) is not inside "Keyboard Shortcuts"
[08:28] <SLierFox> hey guys is this the room to get help im having trouble installing on a toshiba satellite 1130?
[08:33] <iceroot> SLierFox: yes
[08:34] <iceroot> SLierFox: usefull details like error-messages, the ubuntu-version and so on are welcome
[08:35] <JackyAlcine> IM a photographer.
[08:35] <JackyAlcine> Supplement for Photoshop on Ubuntu?
[08:35] <kdavey> good morning all
[08:35] <Gnea> JackyAlcine: The Gimp
[08:35] <SLierFox> ty iceroot ok i dont exactly have any error codes as it just hangs before boot up from live disc which ive never ran into before so im a bit stuck to know what to do ?
[08:39] <JackyAlcine> kkay thank you gnea
[08:42] <MARCIO> siemka
[08:43] <kdavey> hey all
[08:43] <Guest98597> wie moze ktos jak zainstalowac gg na ubuntu?
[08:43] <rww> ubottu: pl | Guest98597
[08:46] <TofuAttack> So a horse walks into a bar. The bartender says, "Why the long face?
[08:47] <rww> the horse replies, "Ask in #ubuntu-offtopic!"
[08:47] <suprengr> Comppiz question: running10.04 & wondering if I can get any use from compiz when usingan on-board Intel / Radeon Pro grahics set?
[08:47] <Cloud_> whats the program that ubuntu 10.04 uses to draw the boot splash?
[08:48] <TofuAttack> i would but i hardly know what ubuntu is about so i dont really care
[08:48] <rww> Cloud_: plymouth
[08:48] <Cloud_> is there any way i can change its operation to show the framebuffer console with a background image instead?
[08:48] <Cloud_> i already got uvesafb working
[08:50] <Ben64> how come the version of the nvidia driver is so ancient
[08:50] <itsux2bu> i just booted with a LiveUSB for the first time.. prior to this i Virtualbox which put ubuntu in a very protective shell and it doesn't see you hardware directly.. i have to say i've super impressed with how ubuntu detected my hardware and used it to it full advantage.. the more i see of ubuntu the more it impresses me..
[08:51] <TofuAttack> what are the advantages of using ubuntu besides the price
[08:51] <itsux2bu> the most popular distro downloaded
[08:52] <iceroot> TofuAttack: freedom
[08:52] <TofuAttack> seems like a pretty lame OS....
[08:52] <iceroot> TofuAttack: you have a support-question?
[08:52] <itsux2bu> dude.. look there are 1300+ users in here and its slow now
[08:52] <itsux2bu> 1300+ is like 300 or 400 more than any other room..
[08:53] <TofuAttack> no i dont, i dont even know why i'm here.
[08:53] <itsux2bu> on freenode
[08:53] <itsux2bu> what else you looking at?
[08:53] <iceroot> TofuAttack: so maybe #ubuntu-offtopic is a better place for questions like that
[08:54] <suprengr> TofuAttack:  what iceroot said ispertinentbut in answer... security, help, total cost of qwnership, better hardware life are but a few.
[08:54] <lon__> I have ubuntu installed on my pc but all app software i download i cant open it.
[08:54] <TofuAttack> so i googled it and apparently the top reason is "Ubuntu 7.04 comes with just a few of the effects seen a lot nowadays, these effects include the rotating cube desktop and wobbly windows," LMFAO
[08:55] <van7hu> Hello
[08:55] <lon__> CAN SOMEONE HELP ME?
[08:55] <itsux2bu> ubuntu Desktop gives you 4 virtual desktops
[08:56] <van7hu> does anyone here use JVJ 3G modem with ubuntu
[08:56] <van7hu> ?
[08:56] <itsux2bu> it detechs hardware others don't
[08:56] <lon__> IM NEW TO UBUNTU IM USE TO WINDOWS
[08:57] <SwedeMike> lon__: please don't use caps lock.
[08:57] <lon__> Ok sorry
[08:57] <itsux2bu> lon__, what apps and how are you downloading them?
[08:58] <van7hu> JVJ is not in 3G hardware list of ubuntu wiki
[08:58] <van7hu> but
[08:58] <TerrenceKJ> Hi everyone. I currently have Unbuntu 10.4 running on one workstation, and would like to install the exact same OS and extra's on another pc. Can I I write my config and software packages to a DVD
[08:58] <TofuAttack> that's cool i guess, but... it wouldn't be able to run any windows applications... which is like 90% of all software
[08:58] <TofuAttack> which is also the main reason i hate macs
[08:59] <van7hu> could anyone tell me how to do with JVJ moem
[08:59] <lon__> im downloading from demonoid and the app is spyware doctor & others like that
[08:59] <van7hu> could anyone tell me how to do with JVJ modem
[08:59] <TerrenceKJ> so that I don't have to download all the extra's again
[08:59] <itsux2bu> TofuAttack, you use ms-office
[08:59] <itsux2bu> ?
[08:59] <suprengr> !wine > TofuAttack
[09:00] <itsux2bu> lon__, are these windows apps?
[09:00] <itsux2bu> or *nix?
[09:01] <TerrenceKJ> Put differently, can I package my installed ubuntu 10.4 and all installed extra's on an installation dvd/s
[09:01] <lon__> well im new to all this i use to download from here all the time with windows but i changed to ubuntu and im lost
[09:01] <ghostnik11> gnea: it seems my floopy drive is not writing to the diskette correctly as every time i try to put on windows 2000 img file on diskette it says file to large
[09:01] <SLierFox> is the netbook edition better than the desktop for laptops ?
[09:02] <Ben64> TerrenceKJ: i don't think so, but you could probably get a list of packages from somewhere and just install those on the new install
[09:02] <TofuAttack> is the real reason that you guys use ubuntu, that you cant afford to buy windows, or even pirate it
[09:02] <ghostnik11> gnea: i will have to get a usb floopy drive for my laptop instead of using my desktop with puppy linux
[09:02] <Ben64> TofuAttack: nope, it works better than windows
[09:02] <SLierFox> i got all three on my laptop tofuattack what do u use ?
[09:03] <ghostnik11> gnea: thanks for all the help and also everyone else who helped, goodnight this has made me tired
[09:03] <TofuAttack> windows 7
[09:03] <itsux2bu> i run windows and ubuntu at the same time.. with Virtualbox..
[09:03] <TerrenceKJ> Ben64: Thanks - can I copy the packages instead of having to download again. If so where are they
[09:03] <iceroot> TofuAttack: the ubuntu-community that you dont find on windows or other linux-distris
[09:04] <SLierFox> yea its nice few lil windows glitchs tho but not as secure as linux i like mint but Mrs wants to use ubuntu
[09:04] <iceroot> TofuAttack: and i already told you that this is the support-channel, everything else goes to #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:04] <shafi> TofuAttack, No. we get sick of windows viruses, crashes, and the Blue Screen of death + 1000000000000000 more reasons
[09:05] <SLierFox> il second that :)
[09:05] <iceroot> TofuAttack: download a live-cd and see the advantages of linux and ubuntu
[09:05] <TofuAttack> i haven't gotten any of those windows 7
[09:05] <TofuAttack> on*
[09:05] <van7hu> Hello
[09:05] <itsux2bu> TofuAttack, so you like being held hostage by m$ for closed software that get upgrade just to make gates and friend billionares?
[09:05] <van7hu> Who has just sent private message to me
[09:05] <van7hu> sorry
[09:05] <TofuAttack> but then i have to reinstall, too much effort
[09:06] <TofuAttack> i pirate my software
[09:06] <Ben64> TerrenceKJ: /var/cache/apt/archives/ ?
[09:06] <van7hu> I open it in new window
[09:06] <SLierFox> reinstall ?
[09:06] <van7hu> and it crash
[09:06] <itsux2bu> no need to pirate *nix.. they give it away
[09:06] <TofuAttack> yah i'll have to reinstall windows
[09:06] <SLierFox> just dual boot or use live cd tofuattack
[09:06] <van7hu> please resend it
[09:06] <Diverdude> I am in a folder. I wish to search current folder and all subfolders for files or folders containing something with the string "25" in the name of the file or folder. How can i do that?
[09:06] <itsux2bu> your not breaking the law with *nix
[09:06] <Ben64> Diverdude: find | grep 25
[09:06] <lon__> how can i open affter effects useing ubuntu
[09:06] <TofuAttack> i'll try it on my desktop later
[09:07] <Cloud_> hey i want fbcondecor on my install
[09:07] <TofuAttack> will i still have all my data intact
[09:07] <Cloud_> is it possible?
[09:07] <itsux2bu> the liveCD boots and doesn't install anything
[09:07] <shafi> TofuAttack, You have to try ubuntu once
[09:07] <rww> Diverdude: find . -name *25*
[09:07] <TofuAttack> so it's like a software than runs within windows?!
[09:07] <TofuAttack> not a complete operating system?
[09:07] <shafi> then u will get the idea
[09:07] <Ben64> uh
[09:07] <TerrenceKJ> Ben64: Thanks a mil
[09:07] <Ben64> it's a complete OS, but it can run off a cd
[09:08] <Ben64> although not as fast as installed
[09:08] <itsux2bu> you create a LiveCD.. when you boot you tell your bios to boot from the CD
[09:08] <TofuAttack> oh...
[09:08] <itsux2bu> no writing to your hard drive
[09:08] <SLierFox> Tofuattack i like mint for eyecandy like win 7 but ubuntu is more widely supported i belive n installing software is easier than windows it does it for u on ubuntu or mint but there are loads of other s too google it
[09:09] <itsux2bu> i just did the same thing with my usb pendrive
[09:09] <TofuAttack> the fact that there are 1300 in the "support" channel does not make me feel confident.
[09:09] <TofuAttack> doesn't this mean there would be a lot of "problems"...
[09:09] <frameRelay> mint is based on ubuntu SLierFox
[09:09] <itsux2bu> and where in the official "Microsoft" support irc channel?
[09:10] <itsux2bu> 1300+ mean there are lots of people around the globe to HELP YOU
[09:10] <SLierFox> frameRelay  yea but changed as ubuntu is debian after all :)
[09:10] <hozeHoze1> hi, i am trying to setup a cronjob to rsync files from remote host to my local box. because of permissions problems i need to sudo rsync, but when i do that, the remote host is prompting me for a password (root id_rsa.pub is not set) and the cronjob wont execute. any ideas?
[09:10] <TofuAttack> what's mint
[09:11] <Araneidae> Why am I able to type `mount /dev/dvd0` as an ordinary user?  It's not in /etc/fstab
[09:11] <SLierFox> Tofuattack possibly but with all this help ul get sorted mint is just a eye candy version of ubuntu
[09:11] <TofuAttack> why are there so many... ubuntu, debian, gentoo, etc
[09:11] <pfifo> gartral, I booted the 10.04.1 livecd and with a simple symlink was able to get my cross compiler working perfectly. Its kind of a pain but since I only need to use the cross compiler to make the final exe it seems like it will work
[09:11] <mneptok> Mint is offtopic for this channel
[09:11] <SLierFox> with added parts and it own community an support
[09:11] <itsux2bu> when i ran my LiveUSB of ubuntu.. it recognized all my hardware.. right from the first boot..
[09:12] <SLierFox> only prob i seem to have at mo with Ubuntu and its green equivelant it ATI gpu cards
[09:12] <itsux2bu> ubuntu is an offshoot of debian
[09:13] <TofuAttack> so i can still run all my windows software on ubuntu...?
[09:13] <TofuAttack> all my games etc
[09:13] <shafi> TofuAttack, Because its open source and every one is able to customize it according to his/her interest.
[09:13] <itsux2bu> TofuAttack, why are there so many different kinds of Coffee?
[09:13] <SLierFox> Tofuattack if ur interested look up unix wars and get the history an ul see why there are so many different distros of linux
[09:13] <TofuAttack> touche.
[09:13] <frameRelay> é *
[09:14] <SLierFox> lol
[09:14] <itsux2bu> TofuAttack, if you wanted to make your own distro.. TofuLinux  you could
[09:14] <pfifo> What dose the word Ubuntu mean?
[09:14] <itsux2bu> try that with any windows software?
[09:14] <triunity> test
[09:14] <noplamodo> itsux2bu : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28philosophy%29
[09:14] <mneptok> !offtopic
[09:15] <shafi> TofuAttack, there are many packages that could resolve all your problems, but beside this you still could install your windows app via the "wine"
[09:15] <gartral> frameRelay: 99% of people wouldnt know how to get an accented e out of they're keybord if the instruction bit em
[09:15] <frameRelay> lol
[09:15] <mneptok> gartral: but they may be able to differentiate between "they are" and "their"
[09:15] <itsux2bu> Wine is a windows emulator for linux
[09:16] <hozeHoze1> Wine = Wine Is Not Emulator
[09:16] <noplamodo> More a compatibility layer
[09:16] <itsux2bu> well whatever it is
[09:16] <frameRelay> !wine
[09:16] <pfifo> TofuAttack, you dont want to run windows software in linux unless you really have to. thats why its possible to have both windows and linux installed on your computer at the same time
[09:16] <hozeHoze1> :)
[09:17] <gartral> mneptok: auto-correction chose wrong word. I'm not inheriently that bad with grammar.
[09:17] <hozeHoze1> Tofu, just install ubuntu, and setup winblows on a virtual machine
[09:17] <TofuAttack> why is it free, how do the developers get paid? just from generous supporters?
[09:17] <TofuAttack> i would have to memorise the altcodes
[09:17] <TofuAttack> cbf
[09:17] <SLierFox> Wine works ok in my experiance but u need to check up if the exe in windows will work ok in Wine
[09:17] <mneptok> gartral: "inherently"
[09:17] <itsux2bu> you can dual boot.. you can use a virtual machine, you can liveCD/LiveUSB..
[09:17] <gartral> he isnt satisfied either way, huh?
[09:17] <frameRelay> TofuAttack devs don't get paid
[09:17] <rww> gartral: I believe mneptok is making a point :)
[09:18] <pfifo> WAIT!! Were getting paid for this? when can I get my check? Whats my payrate anyway?
[09:18] <gartral> whatever, it's 4:18 AM, iI have room for a smegging typo or two, ok?
[09:18] <frameRelay> Wait, what? Was I wrong all these years?
[09:18] <frameRelay> I CAN FINALLY BUY MY HOUSE!
[09:18] <pfifo> I deman my salary to be doubled this instant
[09:18] <gsedej_work> hi! I have 10.04 and flash content is always gray (firefox, chrome) but it plays - I can hear sound (youtube). I already tried to reinstall flash plugin
[09:19] <itsux2bu> the developers believe so strongly in open source and ubuntu, they volunteer they time
[09:19] <rww> gartral: perhaps you shouldn't frivolously correct others, then :)
[09:20] <TofuAttack> if only ubuntu could run on an ipad or something...
[09:20] <SLierFox> open source as it will be supported or open sorce code ?
[09:20] <drygrain> zing!
[09:20] <drygrain> lol
[09:21] <drygrain> SLierFox: huh?
[09:21] <gartral> rww: how does this degrade my initial point?
[09:21] <pfifo> TofuAttack, actually its not that simple, I need linux, and use a free version. Since Im somewhat knowledgeable about how linux works internally, I can fix problems when they arise, and instead of keeping the fix to myself, I give it to other users who need it. And im just 1 out of 1371 users
[09:21] <industrial> I have default-jdk and default-jre installed but cannot view java in firefox. What package am I missing?
[09:21] <itsux2bu> well there's another closed machine.. apple keeps even tighter control of its IP then m$
[09:21] <pfifo> TofuAttack, ubuntu will run on an iPad
[09:22] <itsux2bu> and charges an arm and leg.. apple is expensive
[09:22] <SLierFox> Apple is bsd aint it ?
[09:23] <itsux2bu> i'm sure the *nix community would love to run on apple hardware.. but apple would never ever allow it.. don't blame *nix for apples policies
[09:23] <gartral> Apple was allway the big 'Why Bother?' of the computer industry for me.
[09:23] <mneptok> SLierFox: please stop the offtopic-ness. this is a support channel.
[09:23] <rooks> SLierFox, it is bsd-ish with some strangness on top
[09:23] <TofuAttack> programming software seems so hard... can't believe anyone would develop it for free.
[09:23] <TofuAttack> are you serious?!?!?
[09:23] <TofuAttack> why do you ugys say m$ and not ms
[09:23] <SLierFox> ahh
[09:23] <rooks> SLierFox, more or less its to bsd what chromium is to linux
[09:24] <rww> TofuAttack: because they're silly and immature
[09:24]  * topyli throws in a quick advertisement for #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:24] <rww> Also, way over half of Linux kernel development is done under the auspices of a company, as is a lot of work on the other parts of Linux.
[09:24] <pfifo> TofuAttack, programming is easy. Ya im srs. m$ seems to be more derogatory, linux users generally dont like anything related to microsoft
[09:24] <rww> topyli: you're not the first person to do so :\
[09:25] <topyli> :(
[09:25] <drygrain> lol
[09:25] <industrial> TofuAttack: programming software isnt hard. it's a job thousand of people do
[09:25] <industrial> TofuAttack: it's also way more fun if you can decode on your own what to make instead of what your boss requires
[09:25] <industrial> so you make it good and are proud of it
[09:25] <industrial> welcome to open source.
[09:26] <industrial> decide*
[09:26] <Ben64> soooo... how come my nvidia driver is 195 instead of 256?
[09:26] <SLierFox> So would the netbook version of ubuntu be better suited to a laptop than the desktop version of the new ubuntu ?
[09:26] <Ben64> seems like a really really old version for ubuntu to be giving me
[09:26] <industrial> I have default-jdk and default-jre installed but cannot view java in firefox. What package am I missing?
[09:26] <topyli> SLierFox: no
[09:26] <rww> SLierFox: they're just different interfaces. Try them both, see which you like.
[09:26] <Ben64> SLierFox: i have normal version on my laptop, works fine
[09:26] <pfifo> SLierFox, laptop should get the desktop and netbooks should get netbook
[09:27] <SLierFox> ok will try desktop for mrs laptop
[09:27] <industrial> rww: can I test both interfaces on 10.04 ?
[09:27] <itsux2bu> you can be a slave to microsoft's overprice bloated code that you have no control over or enjoy the freedom of *nix
[09:27] <rww> and netbooks work fine with the desktop version too :\
[09:27] <rww> industrial: yes
[09:27] <pfifo> i hate the netbook interface cause im the cli type
[09:27] <industrial> rww: what's the package :P?
[09:27] <Ben64> if you want to run all the newest and greatest games, use windows
[09:27] <itsux2bu> *nix has very low memory overhead..
[09:27] <rww> industrial: ubuntu-netbook and ubuntu-desktop
[09:28] <industrial> cheers
[09:28] <industrial> rww: maybe you know this aswell; I have default-jdk and default-jre installed but cannot view java in firefox. What package am I missing?
[09:28] <industrial> :P
[09:28] <itsux2bu> everyday i hear stories of kids taking out old laptops to slow for windows and loading *nix on it and runs like new
[09:28] <rww> industrial: My solution to java problems involves bleach and nuclear missiles. I suspect you want a different person.
[09:28] <Ben64> so nobody knows why the nvidia driver is so out of date?
[09:28] <industrial> rww: darn :( i know :( stupid button on a webpage for work :(
[09:29] <pfifo> industrial, there is a firefox plugin for java, you need to make sure its in firefox's plugin directory
[09:29] <Ben64> industrial: java works for me as of 10.04
[09:29] <topyli> industrial: the plugin package
[09:29] <itsux2bu> TofuAttack, what do you do with your windows computers?
[09:30] <SLierFox> itsux2bu good you can help me with mine then when ive got ubuntu downloaded :)
[09:31] <topyli> industrial: ah. icedtea6-plugin, i assume
[09:31] <TofuAttack> Ben 64: "if you want to run all the newest and greatest games, use windows"
[09:31] <TofuAttack> ...yeah guess i'm not going to be using ubuntu.
[09:31] <mnord> Hi, I accidentally added stuff to the Evolution calendar instead of the Google calendar. Now I've added the Google calendar to Evolution and want to copy the contents of Evolutions calendar. I right click the old one and press "copy" which lets me choose which calendar to copy to, and I choose Google, but when it says "Kan inte öppna mål" (can not open target, or something similar). I can see the Google calendar and all the content s
[09:31] <mnord> o there should be no problem. Any ideas?
[09:32] <TofuAttack> i might install it on my old desktop actuallly, i only use that for browsing and msn...
[09:32] <itsux2bu>  TofuAttack dude.. DUAL-BOOT.. its not a either or world
[09:32] <drygrain> they arent mutually excluzive TofuAttack
[09:32] <industrial> topyli: hmm, that was already installed
[09:33] <topyli> itsux2bu, TofuAttack: you are seriously offtopic. stop it
[09:33] <itsux2bu> i'm done..
[09:33] <pfifo> TofuAttack, use ubintu for the linux tools that run faster and more stable than anything in windows, and boot up to windows to kick back and throw some frags
[09:34] <Ben64> i hate booting into windows
[09:34] <DASPRiD> TofuAttack, if you define SC2 as the currently newest and greatest game, ubuntu will do fine ;)
[09:35] <Ben64> DASPRiD: does it work fine really?
[09:35] <itsux2bu> yea.. its seems so slow now that i've gotten used to ubuntu
[09:35] <DASPRiD> Ben64, yup, flawless
[09:35] <TofuAttack> all that's going through my mind is... hannah montana.. best of both worlds...
[09:35] <Ben64> saw it on winehq, gonna try it later tonight
[09:35] <mnord> Problem solved by restarting Evolution. There seems to have been some connection problem only.
[09:36] <TofuAttack> k i'll install it on my desktop in  a few hours when i have time
[09:37] <pfifo> i always get reduced framrated running stuff through wine :(
[09:38] <Araneidae> How do I persuade Ubuntu to show the original console when booting rather than the stupid "user friendly" splash screen?
[09:39] <rww> Araneidae: edit /etc/default/grub, remove "splash" from the relevant line, save, run "sudo update-grub"
[09:39] <itsux2bu>  Araneidae you want to boot to command line?
[09:39] <Araneidae> itsux2bu, no, I was after rww 's answer, thanks
[09:40] <itsux2bu> just wanted to get rid of slpash screen.. but still load desktop?
[09:40] <TofuAttack> will i still be able to network transfer data from my win7 laptop to ubuntu desktop???
[09:40] <Araneidae> Just so: would rather see what's happening during the boot process, particularly if something goes wrong
[09:40] <Araneidae> I'm afraid Ubuntu is getting more and more reticent about error messages :(
[09:41] <itsux2bu> Araneidae, got ya
[09:41] <rww> Araneidae: you can also remove "quiet" from the same place for more verbosity :)
[09:41] <Araneidae> Just clicked on "Try Ubuntu-Netbook 10.04" on a netbook boot and it's just sitting there, spinning that icon
[09:43] <gartral> Araneidae: how long?
[09:43] <Araneidae> Good grief!  It's still unzipping crap off the USB disk (I can see `lzma` hammering the CPU in top on the alternate console)
[09:43] <gartral> Araneidae: ive seen systems take a hour too boot from live cd
[09:44] <dyret> guys, what is the shorctur keys to open up the search app that lets you type in the name of the program you'd like to start?
[09:44] <Araneidae> That's so encouraging.  Think somebody's not thought things through here...
[09:44] <Araneidae> Sounds like a "papercut" candidate, actually
[09:44] <rww> dyret: Alt-F2?
[09:44] <dvaske> dyret, gnome-do?
[09:44] <gartral> Araneidae: sounds like your low on ram
[09:44] <Araneidae> gartral, 512M ought to be enough?
[09:44] <Araneidae> I thought the whole point of Netbook was low resource usage
[09:45] <gartral> Araneidae: erm.. no.. the cd image itself is 650~ mb
[09:45] <Araneidae> yeah, good point
[09:45] <Araneidae> ouch
[09:45] <dyret> dvaske: I think that might be it yeah
[09:45] <Araneidae> Well, it's still lzma'ing away like mad
[09:45] <gartral> Araneidae: i *bet* you tryed toram huh?
[09:46] <Araneidae> toram?
[09:46] <Araneidae> goes google
[09:46] <Ben64> loading livecd from a flash drive?
[09:46] <gartral> linux=toram
[09:46] <topyli> Araneidae: the point of the netbook edition is not low resource usage. it's regular ubuntu with a different desktop
[09:46] <gartral> which is more meant for high accessability
[09:46] <Araneidae> topyli, ah.  Misunderstood
[09:47] <Araneidae> hmm.  I wonder what I should put on this little box then
[09:47] <undifined> and running resources != install resources
[09:47] <Fudge> how do u generate id_rsa and pub key with cli ssh?
[09:47] <Araneidae> Fudge, ssh-keygen
[09:47] <topyli> Araneidae: 512M is usable for ubuntu. it won't be fast, but it'll work just fine
[09:47] <Drooling_Sheep> fudge: ssh-keygen -t rsa
[09:48] <drygrain> regular old buntu runs great on my ne5tbook
[09:48] <Fudge> tks :D
[09:48] <Araneidae> Woo: I've got a live screen.  Shiney :)
[09:49] <Araneidae> I wonder if the wireless works...
[09:49] <Ben64> anyone keep the window closing stuff on the left side?
[09:49] <pfifo> i bet it dose
[09:49] <Ben64> i bet it doesn't :(
[09:49] <pfifo> $5
[09:49] <Ben64> wireless drivers hardly work
[09:50] <pfifo> Ben64, im lost with the window controls on the right
[09:50] <Ben64> really?
[09:50] <rww> !controls
[09:50] <Ben64> its how almost everything does it
[09:50] <Ben64> ha you guys made a thing for that
[09:51] <Araneidae> Well, it seems to think the wireless network is there
[09:51] <rww> Ben64: it's awfully popular :(
[09:51] <pfifo> Ben64, oops got my lefts and rights mixed up
[09:51] <pfifo> Ben64, im lost with the window controls on the LEFT
[09:51] <Araneidae> Have to type in my ridiculously complicted password now.
[09:51] <Ben64> rww: its the first thing i did when i upgraded to lucid
[09:52] <Araneidae> (doesn't help that the keyboard map is wrong)
[09:54] <Araneidae> Woo!  Wireless works on this machine, out of the box!
[09:54] <pfifo> whers my $5?
[09:54] <itsux2bu> rww, comment out 'GRUB_CMDLINE_DEFAULT="quiet splash"' in /etc/default/grub ?
[09:55] <rww> itsux2bu: no, remove quiet and splash from it
[09:55] <rww> GRUB_CMDLINE_DEFAULT=""
[09:55] <ComradeHaz`> o, guys I need a little help configuring 'dhcp3' for a single net-bootable machine. I cannot see how I can make one machine net-bootable while leaving all other dhcp requests as normal dhcp leases.
[09:55] <Araneidae> Should that be GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT?  That's all that's in my /etc/defaults/grub
[09:56] <pfifo> ComradeHaz`, in your dhcpd.conf you need to configure the client via mac address.
[09:56] <itsux2bu> rww, so 'GRUB_CMDLINE_DEFAULT=""'  ?
[09:56] <rww> Araneidae: yes, actually. I was just going off what itsux2bu said :)
[09:56] <ComradeHaz`> of cours, pfio, but I cannot find the syntax to tell it a specific mac is to bre responded to with a boot reply rather than a normal reply
[09:57] <ComradeHaz`> Ah. Unless....
[09:57] <rww> itsux2bu: 1) find the line that has quiet and splash in it, 2) remove quiet and splash. 3) sudo update-grub. You appear to be overthinking this :\
[09:57] <ComradeHaz`> Have I missed the point?! Does the request look different?
[09:58] <Ben64> i like how ubuntu lets you enter in passphrase for wireless, but windows doesn't
[09:58] <pfifo> ComradeHaz`, yes it looks a little different
[09:58] <itsux2bu> rww, no just double checking..  my thot was that if no values in the quotes  why have the line.. .. but i got it now..
[09:58] <ComradeHaz`> OK, so one of the things I am unhappy about is that in the sample config file it says specifying a range for netboots is not recommended
[09:58] <ComradeHaz`> but it doesn't show a recommended way of doing it
[09:59] <ComradeHaz`> and the guids I find on the web all specify ranges.
[09:59] <rww> someone really needs to make a GUI for /etc/default/grub.
[09:59] <Araneidae> rww, itsux2bu: here's a command to do the job: sudo sed -i 's/quiet splash//' /etc/default/grub; sudo update-grub
[09:59] <ComradeHaz`> As it happens I don't want a range, I want one machine, to get one IP and boot from a pxe server.
[10:00] <pfifo> ComradeHaz`, you still setup a range, of just 1 ip address
[10:00] <zamba> i want to set up an interface in /e/n/interfaces that should get its ip address from a dhcp server, but it should ignore the gateway.. how can i do that?
[10:00] <itsux2bu> Araneidae, cool
[10:01] <ComradeHaz`> OK, so that goes at the top... What about the specification for the actual machine?
[10:01] <ComradeHaz`> Does that dissappear?
[10:02] <Araneidae> itsux2bu, the sed command is a bit of a blunderbus, a safer version would be sed -i '/^GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=/s/quiet splash//' /etc/default/grub
[10:02] <pfifo> ComradeHaz`, you have to specifically setup DHCP todo pxeboot, you really need to go review the documentation for it closer. But perhaps this will give you an idea http://linux-sxs.org/internet_serving/pxeboot.html
[10:03] <ComradeHaz`> I have done the rest
[10:03] <ComradeHaz`> but all the guides seem to be under teh strange dilluded impression you're only wanting to boot a bunch of diskless machines
[10:04] <ComradeHaz`> and totally fail to mention you may also have conventional machines using the same dhcp server
[10:04] <itsux2bu> Araneidae, but what if in a future version theres 2 spaces between quiet and splash.. or they reverse the order to splash space quiet?
[10:04] <pfifo> ComradeHaz`, that link has exactly what you want to copy and paste
[10:04] <itsux2bu> Araneidae, since you brought up safety
[10:05] <Araneidae> itsux2bu, you're quite right
[10:05] <Araneidae> Even better would be:
[10:05] <ComradeHaz`> Ah, indeed, it probably does.
[10:05] <ComradeHaz`> Thanks pfifo
[10:05] <Araneidae> sed -i '/^GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=/{s/quiet//; s/splash//;}' /etc/default/grub
[10:05] <pfifo> np
[10:05] <Araneidae> That'll leave a space behind, but we don't care, I'm sure
[10:05] <rww> that space could kill us all!
[10:06] <rww> (also, I now know more sed-fu than before this conversation started)
[10:06] <ComradeHaz`> hmm, one other thing I do need though pfifo is to specify the pxe server is not local
[10:06] <ComradeHaz`> I need to pass the IP of that machine.
[10:06] <ComradeHaz`> Can I do that in the host specification too?
[10:06]  * Araneidae knows too much sed
[10:06] <Araneidae> I can't play tetris in it though -- I've seen it done
[10:07] <pfifo> ComradeHaz`, pxeserver? you mean your tftp server?
[10:07] <ComradeHaz`> Sorry, yes.
[10:07] <itsux2bu> also i like hand editting.. i can put in a comment about returning it to factory defaults..
[10:08] <itsux2bu> copy the line.. comand out the original line.. than removing quiet and splash
[10:09] <itsux2bu> and add a comment about running sudo update-grub
[10:10] <Araneidae> Think I rather like the Netbook GUI.  It's simple and to the point
[10:10] <pfifo> ComradeHaz`, next-server 192.168.1.50;
[10:10] <pfifo> ComradeHaz`, http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/478
[10:10] <ComradeHaz`> Yeah, I know. Question is can I put it in the host specifcation
[10:11] <ComradeHaz`> Unlike what they do there.....
[10:11] <itsux2bu> since we are on the topic of desktop booting.. how can i boot the desktop version to a cmdline and just load gdm when i want?
[10:11] <Araneidae> That'll be a runlevel
[10:12] <Araneidae> Oh damn.  No inittab anymore
[10:12] <pfifo> you should be able to use next-server in a host section
[10:13] <itsux2bu> in grub i see #GRUB_TERMINAL=console     if i remove the comment and sudo update-grub ?
[10:13] <Araneidae> Anybody know how to set the runlevel in Ubuntu now that inittab is gone?
[10:14] <Araneidae> itsux2bu, I think that's too early.  You need to change what's started once init gets going
[10:14] <itsux2bu> i was told to do this.. sudo nano /etc/init/gdm.conf then look for Start and add  'never and ' inside the parens.    but i wanted to ask if that grub console entry was better?
[10:15] <AnxiousNut> how can i continue a stopped process from the command line? after using kill -STOP <pid>, is there something like -CONTINUE or -UNSTOP?
[10:15] <Araneidae> Definitely *not* the grub entry ... I think
[10:15] <Araneidae> AnxiousNut, SIGCONT
[10:15] <itsux2bu> Araneidae, ok.. i'll stay with what i got
[10:15] <Araneidae> See signal(7)
[10:16] <AnxiousNut> Araneidae, thanks just saw it! I really have to check twice before coming here!
[10:17] <here2day> hi, new to linux, just wondering if start-up disk creator, only for ubuntu iso's?.... it wont allow me to use other distro iso's to make startup ubb
[10:17] <Araneidae> itsux2bu, there is a notion of runlevel in the /etc/init/gdm.conf, so upstart clearly still understand runlevels
[10:17] <Araneidae> I reckon you want to set the right runlevel ...
[10:17] <itsux2bu> the only thing left that still bothers me is when i exit gdm and at the command line the screen blanker still runs. i can turn it off in desktop.. but not command line..
[10:18] <pfifo> here2day, startup disk creator convers a ubuntu iso into a USB bootable install disk
[10:18] <soee> can you recommend some app for VoIP ?
[10:18] <here2day> is there a package for using other iso's?
[10:20] <pfifo> here2day, no, other distros iso's can vary greatly in design. You would have to refer to that particular distros docs, or do it by hand by learning how isoboot works
[10:20] <here2day> ok thx
[10:23] <Araneidae> Huh.  My poor netbook will never work again: running the install!
[10:23] <juxta> NGEN
[10:23] <pfifo> how long did i leave this soda in the freezer? Is it safe to open it?
[10:24] <Araneidae> I hope it boots a bit faster than before
[10:25] <alex2> hello, I can't remembered what file it was, but I added some lines that started off with 'export <etc>' .. that set my default IRC nicks and names.. what file was it?!
[10:25] <Araneidae> alex2, depends on your IRC client
[10:25] <Araneidae> Also, thoroughly OT!
[10:25] <alex2> I just installed weechat a few minutes ago
[10:25] <topyli> Araneidae: it is not, if the client is in ubuntu
[10:26] <pfifo> alex2, look in /home/alex2/.weechat or something similar
[10:26] <alex2> I've been using irssi for several months
[10:26] <Araneidae> topyli, oh, didn't realise.  Actually, that's quite useful!
[10:26] <topyli> Araneidae: we support everything in main and universe .)
[10:27] <Araneidae> Huh.  Then I can ask about setting up an IMAP server?
[10:27] <topyli> Araneidae: sure, although you might have more luck in #ubuntu-server
[10:27] <alex2> thanks!! I found a config file that has my name in it.  I feel stupid.  but thatnkyou
[10:27] <alex2> ;)
[10:27] <rww> topyli: not restricted and multiverse?
[10:28] <Araneidae> Actually, I'll be setting it up on debian, but I'm sure I can pretend ;)
[10:28] <pfifo> rww, ill give unofficial supprt for anything in this chatroom
[10:28] <topyli> rww: restricted sure, as far as it is supportable. multiverse i don't know. i guess we do
[10:28] <rww> Araneidae: #debian would work out better for that ;P
[10:28] <topyli> some do, some don't!
[10:28] <Araneidae> I'm not so sure about that
[10:28]  * Araneidae has mixed results on #debian
[10:29] <pfifo> no, it was not safe to open this soda, what a mess
[10:29] <ZelenyKralik> has anyone tryed full disk encryption? does it slow computer much?
[10:30] <itsux2bu> can you combine lines with ; ?
[10:30] <Araneidae> itsux2bu, lines in what?
[10:31] <pfifo> ZelenyKralik, i used to have my root partition encrpyted back in my gentoo days. I didnt find it to be a slowdown, but it was a big pain to boot up
[10:31] <livingdaylight> Hello OobOonteros
[10:32] <itsux2bu> your original was..   the ; after grub.. will  sudo grub-update run?      sudo sed -i 's/quiet splash//' /etc/default/grub; sudo update-grub
[10:32] <ZelenyKralik> I was thinking about full disk encryption with boot partition on my flash drive
[10:32] <itsux2bu> lines at the command line
[10:32] <Araneidae> itsux2bu, yes
[10:33] <itsux2bu> ok.. be back in a minute with one more sed question
[10:33] <pfifo> ZelenyKralik, theres only one way to find out, try it
[10:34] <dyret> how do I find out what my ip address is?
[10:34] <ZelenyKralik> yeah:)
[10:34] <pfifo> dyret, goto the comman line and type in 'ip addr'
[10:34] <sun_> ifconfig
[10:35] <barrito> or you could go to whatsmyipaddress.com
[10:35] <pfifo> barrito, no thats not the same
[10:35] <barrito> oh which ip then?
[10:35] <itsux2bu> Araneidae, sudo sed -i '/^GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=/{s/quiet//; s/splash//;}' /etc/default/grub; sudo sed -i '/^GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=/{s/" "//;}' /etc/default/grub; sudo grub-update    would that get rid of the space between the quotes?
[10:36] <dyret> pfifo: if some server host need to give my ipaddress exclusive access.. what ip address do I give them?
[10:36] <Araneidae> Well almost
[10:36] <itsux2bu> opps
[10:36] <ZelenyKralik> whatsmyipaddress.com
[10:36] <ZelenyKralik> this one
[10:37] <Araneidae> Firstly you don't need a separate command, you can just do the substitution after the s/splash// one
[10:37] <itsux2bu> Araneidae, sudo sed -i '/^GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=/{s/quiet//; s/splash//;}' /etc/default/grub; sudo sed -i '/^GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=/{s/" "/""/;}' /etc/default/grub; sudo grub-update    would that get rid of the space between the quotes?
[10:37] <Araneidae> and secondly you mean s/" "/""/
[10:37] <itsux2bu> yup.. i just saw that
[10:37] <Araneidae> yeah, but better: sudo sed -i '/^GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=/{s/quiet//; s/splash//; s/" *"/""/;}' /etc/default/grub
[10:37] <pfifo> dyret, if your connecting through a router, than you will nedd to loginto your routers config, find the IP address that your ISP is giving you, and possibly setup port forwarding
[10:38] <itsux2bu> whats * do?
[10:38] <itsux2bu> i think i understand the rest
[10:38] <slacker_nl> there is no iso for 8.04.0 and 10.04.0 releases, just the point releases?
[10:38] <pfifo> matches space  zero or more times ' *'
[10:38] <itsux2bu> place holder for 1 or many?
[10:38] <itsux2bu> ok..
[10:39] <dyret> pfifo: so whatismyip.com is not the thing I want to give them?
[10:39] <Araneidae> My install was sitting on "fetching file 14 of 14" and had a "Skip" button.  What would that have been about?
[10:39] <Araneidae> Why would I want to skip some random fragment of my install?!
[10:39] <pfifo> dyret, im not sure, it depends on what your doing. can you give me more details?
[10:39] <ZelenyKralik> dyret well just look what your ip adress is there:)
[10:40] <dyret> the server host needs to give me exclusive access to their sft account
[10:40] <dyret> sftp account
[10:40] <Araneidae> and another opportunity to skip something random!
[10:40] <dyret> they need my ip
[10:40] <pfifo> Araneidae, i beleive that has todo with install fonts and language packs
[10:40] <Araneidae> (Hammering my poor internet connection)
[10:40] <pfifo> dyret, for that youll want whatsmyip
[10:40] <Araneidae> pfifo, looks like it this time: says "Downloading language packs..."
[10:41] <dyret> pfifo: thanks:)
[10:41] <n1cetry> Hi, assholes.
[10:41] <n1cetry> How the fuck do you install Ubuntu on a MacBook Pro?
[10:41] <psycho_oreos> !language | n1cetry
[10:42] <topyli> n1cetry: try again with nicer language
[10:42] <pfifo> Araneidae, you dont need japanese language support to run ubuntu, so you can skip that stuff
[10:42] <pingufan> Hi, I just installed Ubuntu 8 on my "Micro PC", but it is not really satifying. The system has a VIA C3 CPU and CLE266 chipset (graphics).  Neither shutoff nor a resolution higher than 800x600 works, but this works (both!) with openSuSE.   Can somebody, please, help? I am actually forced to use Ubuntu in this case, it is used by emc2 and has a realtime kernel patch, so I cannot change the kernel.
[10:42] <n1cetry> Fuck all.
[10:43] <Araneidae> pfifo, ah well, too late now.  Maybe I'll uninstall it later if I need the room
[10:43] <om26er> n1cetry, wrong channel?
[10:43] <om26er> !test
[10:43] <pingufan> n1cety: Please, go away.
[10:43] <bilalakhtar> He's gone
[10:43] <randy_> Can anyone tell me how to use apt-get install a package but don't install relationship package
[10:43] <pingufan> phew...
[10:43] <bilalakhtar> randy_: You mean depends packages?
[10:44] <timewriter> hi
[10:44] <Araneidae> randy_, I'm pretty sure you *can't* install a package without installing its dependencies
[10:44] <Araneidae> Isn't that the point?
[10:44] <bilalakhtar> randy_: That's not possible, packages cannot work without their dependencies
[10:44] <randy_> bilalakhtar, deb package.for example I dont't want to install openjdk i use sunjdk
[10:44] <bilalakhtar> randy_: okay that way?
[10:44] <itsux2bu> Araneidae, sry to be a pest.. but i want to make sure no typo creeped in the last regexp you gave me..   s/" *"/""/   <<==  s slash quote space? star quote slash..  just checking about the space before the star..
[10:45] <bilalakhtar> randy_: Are you using UBuntu Desktop or Server?
[10:45] <pfifo> pingufan, upgrade to a newer version of ubuntu
[10:45] <randy_> bilalakhtar, desktop
[10:45] <pingufan> I cannot. See above.
[10:45] <Araneidae> itsux2bu, yeah, that's quite correct.  The * allows any number of matches of the thing immediately before it
[10:45] <bilalakhtar> randy_: open up synaptic package manager
[10:45] <randy_> bilalakhtar, ok
[10:45] <pingufan> But this will surely change nothing, hardware is older than v8 at all.
[10:45] <itsux2bu> OH.. I see
[10:45] <itsux2bu> thx.. i'll shut up now
[10:46] <Araneidae> NP
[10:46] <Tanvir> hi everyone, how can I download all possible codec for totem and rythmbox?
[10:46] <topyli> Tanvir: ubuntu-restricted-extras should pretty much cover it
[10:46] <randy_> bilalakhtar, waht next and could tell me how to do this if I use terminal
[10:46] <pingufan> I have absolutely no experience with Ubuntu.   How do I enforce a specific resolution on the screen?
[10:46] <Tanvir> topyli, the command please?
[10:47] <bilalakhtar> randy_: Mark that package for installation, then mark that sunjava-* one also for installation then remove the mark on the openjdk one
[10:47] <topyli> Tanvir: sudo aptitude install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[10:47] <deep_> hello everyone
[10:47] <pfifo> pingufan, there was a program for 8.04 but i forget the exact name, i think it was gtk-screen-resolution or something like that, goto a terminal and type 'gtk-' then press tab twice to see the auto completion list, find that program and run it, you will be able to change to higher than 800x600 with it
[10:47] <randy_> bilalakhtar, I use bin to install jdk and have done
[10:47] <bilalakhtar> randy_: cool
[10:48] <erdnase> I think I'll be needing help again. I tried to install java. I downloaded the rpm.bin file from their website, then started to install it. Then this happens. http://paste.ubuntu.com/485779/
[10:48] <pfifo> pingufan, maybe gtk-display-resolution
[10:48] <randy_> bilalakhtar, this is only an example ,sometimes I complted sotf and dont't checkinstall
[10:49] <pingufan> Just a moment, I start up this little mini-itx machine right now.
[10:49] <Tanvir> topyli, thanks, its working.. 84 MB
[10:49] <Araneidae> erdnase, you need to install using Ubuntu's package manager
[10:49] <topyli> erdnase: that's a red hat package, it won't work in ubuntu
[10:49] <hacked_kernel> I need a program to do software engineering process modeling like to define milestones & so on,  any ideas please?
[10:49] <Araneidae> You were lucky that Ubuntu doesn't understand rpm!
[10:49] <pfifo> erdnase, rpm is for redhat/fedora, ubuntu uses deb files
[10:49] <topyli> Tanvir: great
[10:49] <erdnase> Oh. Thanks araneidae and toypli.
[10:49] <pingufan> Just a moment, I start up this little mini-itx machine right now.
[10:49] <erdnase> Ah, I just knew that. Thanks a bunch.
[10:49] <timewriter> after i activated the nvidia recommended drivers , boot splash image has low resolution
[10:49] <erdnase> Package manager it is then. :)
[10:50] <timewriter> how do i change it back to normal ?
[10:50] <topyli> erdnase: look for openjdk packages. if you absolutely need sun's java, look for sun-java6
[10:50] <pingufan> There's no such one.
[10:50] <pfifo> pingufan, the command is 'displayconfig-gtk'
[10:50] <Sargun> When is 10.10 supposed to land?
[10:50] <Araneidae> Sargun, late Oct
[10:51] <Araneidae> Possibly as late as possible!
[10:51] <randy_> bilalakhtar, I think just want apt forget relationship
[10:51] <CQ> hello, I just moved my root from one partition to another, how do I point grub at the new partition? update-grub diesn't do it ...
[10:51] <topyli> Araneidae: actually they're releasing it on 10.10.10 just for the cool factor
[10:51] <pingufan> can I run it throug ha vnc session? I currently have no screen connected, but I can see the machine's entire desktop.
[10:52] <jussi> Sargun: 10.10 question in #ubuntu+1 please
[10:52] <Araneidae> topyli, if they can I guess that'll be cool.
[10:52] <Araneidae> What state is 10.10 in now?
[10:52] <erUSUL> hacked_kernel: openproj
[10:52] <pfifo> pingufan, yeah, that should work
[10:52] <topyli> Araneidae: varying degrees of brokenness
[10:52] <Araneidae> sounds normal
[10:52] <pingufan> Then it does not. :(   "RuntimeError: could not open display"
[10:52] <Araneidae> also sounds implausible for 10/10, but I guess we'll see
[10:52] <jussi> Araneidae: #ubuntu+ 1 also :)
[10:53] <jussi> err #ubuntu+1
[10:53] <Araneidae> jussi, I'd forgotten about that channel.  But then I'm not really an early adopter
[10:53] <erUSUL> hacked_kernel: a bit of googlein shows a similar ganntproject
[10:54] <itsux2bu> Araneidae,  and this would be the opposite of what we been working on.. putting back quiet and splash back in the quotes and running grub-update  ?
[10:54] <itsux2bu> sudo sed -i '/^GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=/{s/""/"quiet splash"/;}' /etc/default/grub; sudo grub-update
[10:55] <Araneidae> itsux2bu, perfect.  Of course if there's anything else in the quotes then nothing will happen...
[10:55] <DoubleString> hey all
[10:56] <itsux2bu> s/"*"/"quiet splash"/  ?
[10:56] <randy_> hello,who know how to do that I use apt-get install packagename ,but some packagename is wrong,I want apt to skip it
[10:57] <Araneidae> itsux2bu, really no.  You could do: s/"/"quiet splash / if you wanted to
[10:57] <pingufan> Let's start with the easier thing:   Why does my little machine not shut off its power when I do a shutdown? The power button also immediately kills the machine instead of a controlled shutdown...
[10:57] <pingufan> I gues, ACPI or APM issue?
[10:58] <Araneidae> itsux2bu, if you really wanted to replace everything in the quotes you'd write s/".*"/"quiet splash"/ -- the . matches any character
[10:58] <Araneidae> but you don't
[10:58] <deep_> got disconnected
[10:58] <deep_> hi again
[10:58] <deep_> i have problem with using 10.04 without installing it... as live cd. I boot from my cd drive, then it loads and login page appears. It not supposed to ask for login. ... any help with this??
[10:58] <pfifo> pingufan, I remember having that problem with 8.04, never found a solution to it cause I never power off.
[10:59] <zulgaban> hi
[10:59] <ZelenyKralik> deep_ maybe its corrupterd CD
[10:59] <ZelenyKralik> corrupted
[11:00] <diva> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1563578
[11:00] <NET||abuse> hmm, i'm looking for a good mmorpg to play on Ubuntu, free to play preferably..
[11:00] <deep_> ZelenyKralik........ i have wrote it twice.......but still same problem
[11:00] <pfifo> NET||abuse, runescape
[11:00] <pingufan> As this is a debian branch, I guess that it is not using same options as SuSE ? :P
[11:00] <NET||abuse> want something to just enjoy in breaks during the day :)
[11:00] <rocket16> I accidentally removed a contact from Pidgin. How to restore it?
[11:00] <NET||abuse> pfifo, runescape you say?
[11:00] <itsux2bu> Araneidae,  yea.. s/".*"/"quiet splash"/    quiet splash  REPLACES.. what we need is a   ADD TO
[11:01] <deep_> once wrote using Nero....then infra recorder
[11:01] <NET||abuse> pfifo, you online there too?
[11:01] <Guest15146> .
[11:01] <Araneidae> itsux2bu, the trick to add to is to replace one of the " characters
[11:01] <NET||abuse> pfifo, oh, it's a java applet?
[11:01] <ZelenyKralik> deep_ well I have no idea than
[11:01] <pfifo> NET||abuse, i tried it, didnt play it tho.
[11:01] <NET||abuse> i see.
[11:02] <Araneidae> By default sed with match the first one it finds, hence my trick above: s/"/"new text /
[11:02] <itsux2bu> Araneidae,  yea.. s/"/"quiet splash/
[11:02] <deep_> ZelenyKralik anyway thanks..
[11:02] <Araneidae> don't forget the trailing space in case there's stuff there already
[11:02] <NET||abuse> pfifo, not sure what kind of game i'm looking for, i've tried out those strategy/resource games like ogame.org, but not sure it's what i want.
[11:02] <itsux2bu> oh.. a space after h..
[11:02] <ZelenyKralik> where did you downloaded it? maybe the iso is corrupted
[11:02] <NET||abuse> also, tried a bit of regnum,
[11:02] <itsux2bu> Araneidae,  yea.. s/"/"quiet splash /
[11:03] <deep_> ZelenyKralik i downloaded it from official site of ubuntu
[11:03] <ZelenyKralik> I just dont think that problem is in your computer
[11:03] <deep_> ZelenyKralik ok.....maybe i will redownload it
[11:04] <Araneidae> you should be able to run md5sum on the .iso and compare with the signature on the website
[11:04] <Araneidae>  ... if they publish a signature
[11:04] <ZelenyKralik> btw download virtual box or something like that
[11:04] <ZelenyKralik> and try your cd there
[11:04] <pfifo> deep_, hack the password, its probbally empty, fo just hit enter
[11:05] <deep_> pfifo....i did that ... but doesnt work
[11:05] <NET||abuse> pfifo, ahh, the premium account vs free is a bit of a kick in the teeth :)
[11:05] <pfifo> deep_, ctrl+alt+f2 and goto the command line, set the password for ubuntu user
[11:06] <deep_> pfifo.....ok.. i will try
[11:07] <jca1981> Hi will somone help me with apt-get problem please? :)
[11:07] <madfox> jca1981 whats the issue?
[11:08] <jrib> jca1981: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[11:08] <Araneidae> Can I throttle my package download?  It's saturating my connection :(
[11:09] <jrib> Araneidae: "trickle" maybe, never used it
[11:09] <pfifo> Araneidae, /etc/wget.conf
[11:09] <jca1981> my upgrade to lucid failed, getting this error when i do a dpkg --configure -a http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/485784/
[11:09] <itsux2bu> your downloading something TOO FAST?
[11:10] <madfox> itsux2bu sometimes people have small network pipes
[11:10] <Araneidae> itsux2bu, alas, yes.  My line won't do more than 2.5Mbit, and the Ubuntu servers easily fill that
[11:10] <itsux2bu> that like being TOO Rich or Too Thin or being Too good looking.. or having sex with too many woman..
[11:10] <Araneidae> I'm more that 5 miles from the exchange :(
[11:10] <jrib> jca1981: why did your upgrade fail?
[11:10] <erdnase> Lol.
[11:11] <Araneidae> pfifo, does update-manager use wget under the hood?  If so, that's useful to know
[11:11] <jca1981> jrib, yes it did
[11:11] <jrib> jca1981: "why?"
[11:11] <pfifo> Araneidae, im pretty sure all package managers use wget, and wget has settings for throttling
[11:12] <jca1981> jrib, upgraded over ssh and connection died
[11:12] <itsux2bu> if i could have a internet connection thats as fast as my hard drive.. i'd be happy.. until then.. faster the better
[11:12] <Araneidae> pfifo, I guess you mean /etc/wgetrc
[11:12] <jrib> jca1981: I see... how did you upgrade?
[11:12] <SLierFox> Any ideas on why a boot disc would fail to load on a toshiba satellite 1130 ?
[11:13] <jca1981> jrib, i did a sudo do-release-upgrade
[11:13] <pfifo> Araneidae, im not sure if it will work the way its expected, you have little control over how much data others send to you. your recvQ will still fill up
[11:13] <Araneidae> I did hear that the core of the problem is stupid queue management on the ISP side
[11:13] <madfox> SlierFox because satellites risk messing up data streams like downloading an ISO cause of how the tech works.
[11:13] <itsux2bu> aww.. we should all have such problems.. Araneidae
[11:14] <jrib> jca1981: dbus running?
[11:14] <Araneidae> Certainly when I'm downloading, everything else freezes: including DNS resolution (grrr)
[11:14] <jca1981> jrib, im not sure
[11:14] <pingufan> Which program are you using for downloading?
[11:14] <Araneidae> itsux2bu, if my ADSL line was faster I wouldn't have a problem
[11:14] <SLierFox> madfox the iso on the disc works on this laptop fine ? samsung r40 plus ?
[11:14] <itsux2bu> Araneidae, guess you need a dedicated download PC
[11:15] <pfifo> Araneidae, if you have a routerbox i remember reading an article that used tc and iptables to setup some advanced stuff for managing bandwidth
[11:15] <jrib> jca1981: check?
[11:15] <madfox> SlierFox so it works fine on one laptop but not the other?
[11:15] <Araneidae> pfifo, yeah, I've heard about that.  I could set up such a box ... but I'm too lazy :(
[11:15] <jca1981> jrib, my machine is at home, can't access it now.
[11:15] <jrib> jca1981: not much to do then
[11:16] <pingufan> He can do a ps auxw to see if wget is running under the hood?
[11:16] <SLierFox> madfox the boot disc or burnt iso that i thought u werte refering too ?
[11:16] <someone1> how to run aptitude or apt-get to find in which package there is error while loading shared libraries: libmysqlpp.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory ?
[11:16] <jca1981> jrib, what can i try when i get home
[11:16] <someone1> I need to find file libmysqlpp.so.3 . How to check in which package is it ?
[11:16] <madfox> SlierFox ok, WHAT is not working for you? The boot disc? or just one laptop?
[11:16] <bramgn> apt-file search libmysqlpp.so.3 maybe
[11:16] <skumara> jca1981, why dont u use update manager?
[11:17] <jrib> jca1981: basically just goodle "start: Unable to connect to Upstart: Failed to connect to socket /com/ubuntu/upstart: Connection refused", figure out what causes that, fix it (maybe by selectively upgrading/configuring specific packages instead of everything)
[11:17] <jca1981> skumara, i dont have any x desktop installed
[11:17] <jrib> someone1: packages.ubuntu.com or apt-file search
[11:17] <erdnase> #
[11:17] <SLierFox> madfox the toshiba laptop freezes after the ubuntu dots goes blank screen all boots fine on other
[11:18] <sacarlson> someone1: sound like the mysql package is that marked broken in synaptic
[11:18] <commander-ape> whats the easiest way to get all running applications and their memory usage within a shell?
[11:18] <jrib> commander-ape: top, ps, htop?
[11:18] <Araneidae> commander-ape, top is easy
[11:18] <sacarlson> commander-ape: try top
[11:18] <skumara> jca1981, did u do this sudo apt-get install update-manager-core before?
[11:18] <jrib> commander-ape: if you like top, you'll love htop!
[11:19] <Araneidae> jrib, hadn't heard of htop.  Looks interesting
[11:19] <sacarlson> jrib: what's htop have?  advanced version?
[11:19] <jca1981> skumara,yes
[11:19] <commander-ape> top! htop! awesome!
[11:19] <commander-ape> thanks guys
[11:19] <erUSUL> commander-ape: ps
[11:20] <jca1981> jrib,reading on google, can it be because im running from the installation cs with my system chrooted?
[11:20] <Araneidae> Hmm.  On this netbook the desktop keeps freezing briefly while the machine is working hard.  Fishy...
[11:20] <skumara> what is ur current version of ubuntu, jca1981 ?
[11:20] <Araneidae> For instance, when unmounting a USB drive while flushing the drive the mouse froze!  What's with that?!
[11:21] <jrib> jca1981: yes, it seems that's one of the frequent comments about it
[11:21] <billy> Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 43.0C mobo: N/A
[11:21] <billy>            Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: 2295 fan-2: 1121
[11:21] <Araneidae> chroot ... do you have procfs mounted in the chroot?
[11:22] <jca1981> jrib, problem is that my system wont boot and wont install kernel because of missing procps! :(
[11:22] <Araneidae> I found that java won't run if it can't find /proc/self/exe !
[11:23] <ylmfos> Hao are you
[11:23] <jrib> jca1981: you can edit the .preinst or whatever script it's failing on to forget about upstart I guess, but do some research and makes sure you know what you are doing
[11:23] <jca1981> Araneidae,not sure the insatll cd auto chroots via its recovery gui. have to check
[11:23] <bramgn> wonder if the universe would collapse if doing rm -f /proc/self/exe
[11:24] <Araneidae> bramgn, that'd be hard to do!
[11:25] <jca1981> jrib, yea maby i can try that
[11:27] <erUSUL> bramgn: ls -l /proc/self/exe
[11:27] <bramgn> chmod -x /proc/self/exe
[11:27] <Araneidae> of course you *can* `rm $(readlink /proc/self/exe)`
[11:28] <Araneidae> bramgn, try it.  Not going to do a thing
[11:28] <bramgn> as a non-root user you get permission denied, as expected
[11:29] <Araneidae> Even as root you can't do anything to /proc
[11:29] <manatee_> quck question: im thinking about adding an extra RAM unit to a spare slot on an old PC i just aquired. lshw reads: -memory
[11:29] <manatee_>       *system/motherboard:     size: 512MiB,      capacity: 512MiB. does this mean the motherboad can only handle 512mb, or am i misunderstanding something? thanks
[11:29] <Araneidae> The entire file system is inside the kernel
[11:30] <erUSUL> manatee_: i think that list what is currently instaled
[11:31] <manatee_> ok, thanks. - just wanted to chek before i start flogging a dead horse!
[11:33] <mistersync> hi you havetimme
[11:33] <Fableflame> Oh yeah, I totally just won Mahjongg
[11:33] <mistersync> really
[11:34] <mistersync> sorry ei have  eh question
[11:34] <Fableflame> mistersync, Yeah, but it was on easy. Was my first time playing it.
[11:34] <Cameron> where can I find the maverick daily x64 alternative iso ?
[11:34] <jrib> !maverick | Cameron
[11:34] <mistersync> on ubuntu site
[11:34] <erUSUL> Cameron: #ubuntu+1
[11:35] <trijntje> mistersync, what problem are you having?
[11:35] <owner> Hello?
[11:35] <erUSUL> !hi
[11:36] <owner> Where would I need to be to get help with sound issues for Xubuntu?
[11:36] <^Willie^> Hi there.
[11:36] <Araneidae> Ouch.  My poor machine is swapping to flash :(  Needs more memory!
[11:36] <ilovefairuz> !details | owner
[11:36] <rww> owner: here or #xubuntu
[11:36] <trijntje> !hi | ^Willie^
[11:36] <owner> I have a problem with my sound after installing xubuntu.
[11:37] <owner> lol, I might just try in the morning. I'm half asleep.
[11:37] <^Willie^> i`m looking for an current ubuntu package list. i did look around on google but where can i find it ?
[11:37] <ilovefairuz> ^Willie^: packages.ubuntu.com
[11:37] <^Willie^> ahh thnx
[11:37] <pie_time> could anyone tell me what the "System Load Average" is?
[11:38] <^Willie^> pie_time: uptime or look in top
[11:38] <pie_time> "look in top"?
[11:38] <pie_time> i dont know what the definition is
[11:38] <^Willie^> jup top shows active running tasks and cpu/ram load
[11:39] <ilovefairuz> pie_time: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Load_(computing)
[11:39] <zeroone1> Hallo! I have a Cinergy Cinergy S USB TV-card, successful installation /var/log/messages : "dvb-usb: DVBWorld DVB-S 2102 USB2.0 successfully initialized and connected.". But with Kaffeine i do not find any programm - what could be wrong?
[11:40] <pie_time> ilovefairuz, so system load is a combination of cpu and memory?
[11:41] <laperr> name of compiling  suit for ubuntu 10.4
[11:41] <erUSUL> laperr: install build-essential package
[11:41] <ilovefairuz> pie_time: cpu only, read the article
[11:41] <erUSUL> laperr: that willl install the gnu compiler collection
[11:42] <laperr> erUSUL thank you
[11:42] <ilovefairuz> !compile | laperr
[11:44] <pie_time> ilovefairuz, i dont understand what the difference is between processor and load
[11:44] <pie_time> there doesn't seem to be any
[11:44] <pie_time> in the system monitors
[11:45] <ilovefairuz> pie_time: "load" is a metric of CPU utilization over a period of time
[11:46] <pie_time> so is processor (in the system monitors)
[11:47] <pie_time> i differentiate between system monitor and system monitors
[11:47] <ilovefairuz> pie_time: the "CPU" value in system monitors only indicates the CURRENT utilization of the CPU
[11:47] <pie_time> ok
[11:48] <ilovefairuz> pie_time: be specific about what system monitor you're talking about
[11:48] <pie_time> im going to go on to another questoin
[11:48] <pie_time> question
[11:48] <pie_time> i want to use boinc
[11:48] <pie_time> but i use openvpn on the system i want to use it on
[11:49] <pie_time> can i some how not use openvpn only on boinc
[11:50] <sacarlson> pie_time: I guess you can change routing so only to the mask of that server boinc runs will take that path
[11:51] <pie_time> sacarlson, i dont understand. could you pm me please
[11:51] <sacarlson> pie_time: sure
[11:52] <flodin> hdparm -y /dev/x is working for me but hdparm -S 24 /dev/x does not... any suggestions how to troubleshoot this?
[11:52] <copynpaste> Hi guys. Someone yesterday helped me clone a drive and I can now say that it worked sucessfully, without a hitch so I am well pleased.
[11:53] <copynpaste> But I have a query (why else would I be here? :P) I have a lightscribe dvd burner, but I can't find lightscribe software.
[11:53] <ilovefairuz> !lightscribe | copynpaste
[11:54] <copynpaste> thankyou very much. I'll go read it now
[11:59] <someone1> jrib: thnx
[12:01] <ilovefairuz> flodin: what error do you get?
[12:02] <flodin> ilovefairuz: i don't get an error, hdparm completes successfully saying "setting standby to 24 (2 minutes)"
[12:02] <flodin> but it doesn't spin down after 2 minutes
[12:02] <flodin> i also tried with -S 1 which should be 5 seconds
[12:02] <flodin> this is a disk which is not mounted, btw
[12:04] <flodin> if there was a way to determine when the last i/o was made to the disk then i could make my own script to spin it down
[12:05] <erdnase> I think I have problems opening web pages ending in .jsp. It takes forever for me to open them, if not, I'll only see a white page.
[12:06] <ilovefairuz> flodin: iotop
[12:07] <mbroeker> erdnase, on external sites or on your own servlet container?
[12:07] <ilovefairuz> erdnase: being a .jsp is unrelated (this is a server-side language),  it could be just that site being overloaded
[12:07] <erdnase> ilavefairuz, ooh, maybe, I'll try and open it using windows to double check.
[12:07] <erdnase> mbroeker, uh, external sites (if, my definition of it is correct).
[12:08] <ilovefairuz> !tab | erdnase
[12:08] <erdnase> ubottu, Oh, there we go, Thanks.
[12:11] <flodin> ilovefairuz: or iostat, it shows statistics per disk :)
[12:12] <flodin> oooh hold on a second, the disk just shut down
[12:12] <krad> hi.  what's a good identd server besides oidentd?
[12:12] <flodin> it took more like 20 minutes than 2 minutes
[12:13] <flodin> perhaps the disk is interpreting the value as raw minutes
[12:16] <thedudester> hello
[12:16] <thedudester> need some help with ubuntu
[12:16] <thedudester> can anyone help me?
[12:17] <zzzed> !ask | thedudester
[12:17] <thedudester> ok, for some reason everytime i reboot the resolution goes back to 600X400
[12:17] <thedudester> why is that?
[12:18] <thedudester> eversince i installed the nvidia driver
[12:18] <katspaugh> thedudester: Try deleting your "/etc/X11/xorg.cong".
[12:18] <thedudester> lets see
[12:18] <zzzed> thedudester, make a backup first
[12:19] <thedudester> ok, ill try that
[12:20] <krad> hi.  what's a good identd server besides oidentd?
[12:21] <thedudester> whats the delete command on the terminal?
[12:21] <flodin> thedudester: rm, as in remove
[12:22] <thedudester> sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.cong ?
[12:22] <katspaugh> thedudester: Yes.
[12:22] <katspaugh> thedudester: "conf", not "cong", of course.
[12:23] <thedudester> great
[12:23] <thedudester> thanks!!
[12:23] <katspaugh> thedudester: Then logout and log in back.
[12:23] <thedudester> let me check
[12:23] <amikrop> Hello. When I boot, my external USB hard disk won't mount, and here's what I get from dmesg: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/sncSLh3y
[12:23] <amikrop> And it will show that. even when I manually unplug and replug it.
[12:23] <Ben64> is it some weird drive
[12:24] <amikrop> But that happens only on some boots.
[12:24] <amikrop> No.
[12:24] <amikrop> Ben64: It is a HITACHI.
[12:24] <Ben64> you using a hub?
[12:25] <amikrop> Ben64: what do you mean?
[12:25] <Ben64> is it plugged directly into the computer?
[12:25] <amikrop> ues
[12:25] <amikrop> yes
[12:25] <amikrop> Ben64: should I report a bug on launchpad?
[12:26] <ilovefairuz> amikrop: pastebin: lsusb
[12:26] <Ben64> try "sudo rmmod ehci_hcd"
[12:26] <ilovefairuz> amikrop: and yes you should
[12:26] <jad> can one control computer beeps ?? cuz i remember a dos brick-breaking game called paranoid where the sounds were not from the speaker but from the motherboard or something like that
[12:27] <Cloud_> jad: use beep
[12:27] <Cloud_> and that noise would be from your pc speaker
[12:28] <jad> Cloud_, thx
[12:29] <amikrop> ilovefairuz: here's dmesg http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/sncSLh3y
[12:29] <amikrop> ilovefairuz Ben64 and here's lsusb http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/99Dz8CJj
[12:29] <dovla> i
[12:31] <newbieKid> Hey there yall!
[12:33] <ilovefairuz> amikrop: what's the model of the drive?
[12:33] <sacarlson> amikrop: Ben64: seems like he has a lot of hubs is that more than normal?  I only have 2
[12:34] <amikrop> sacarlson: the thruth is I have plenty of USB devices connected yo my computer
[12:34] <amikrop> ilovefairuz: hmm, I am not sure... :-/
[12:34] <amikrop> ilovefairuz: HITACHI XL 1000
[12:35] <KE1HA> usually a hub for USB 1.0 and 2.0, then if you have any device plugged in that acts as a hug will list as well.
[12:36] <newbieKid> hi, i'm running 10.04 but cannot connect using a usb telecom modem. its reading it as a cd
[12:36] <sacarlson> newbieKid: what do you see from lsusb?
[12:37] <newbieKid> sacarlson: what do you mean?
[12:37] <amikrop> ilovefairuz Ben64 sacarlson So, any ideas about my problem?
[12:38] <sacarlson> newbieKid: from a terminal us the command lsusb  to get a list of devices on you usb bus
[12:38] <sacarlson> amikrop: I think start unpluging stuff until the problem goes away to isolate what causes it
[12:38] <ilovefairuz> !paste | newbieKid
[12:40] <newbieKid> sacarlson: got it. i'm on windows right now, let me boot up my laptop to which has 10.04
[12:40] <psyt7> does anyone know how I can turn off my integrated webcam in ubuntu? ie. find the module and remove it using 'modprobe -r <module>'
[12:41] <Araneidae> My God, this is desperate.  After two hours my update-manager is less than half way through
[12:41] <zkriesse> !anyone > psyt7
[12:41] <amikrop> sacarlson: you mean unplug a usb device, and replug my disk and see if it that device's fault?
[12:41] <amikrop> * it is
[12:42] <sacarlson> amikrop: is that when the problem happens?  I thought it was a boot thing
[12:42] <sacarlson> amikrop: but sure that should work
[12:43] <ilovefairuz> psyt7: lshw
[12:43] <sacarlson> amikrop: I only see two real devices on your usb busses,  can you just unplug all the external hubs if you have any?
[12:43] <amikrop> sacarlson: it is both a boot and a real-time problem
[12:44] <amikrop> sacarlson: what do you mean "hub"?
[12:44] <amikrop> sacarlson: all my usb devices are connected directly
[12:44] <sfasdfsdfa> http://www.youtube.com/user/ChangeDaChannel#g/c/02EE1A8559FC3A06 31NABCLP7
[12:44] <sfasdfsdfa> http://www.youtube.com/user/ChangeDaChannel#g/c/02EE1A8559FC3A06 64MAAEJAA
[12:44] <sfasdfsdfa> http://www.youtube.com/user/ChangeDaChannel#g/c/02EE1A8559FC3A06 92AAAXGX5
[12:44] <sfasdfsdfa> http://www.youtube.com/user/ChangeDaChannel#g/c/02EE1A8559FC3A06 _bugz_
[12:44] <sfasdfsdfa> http://www.youtube.com/user/ChangeDaChannel#g/c/02EE1A8559FC3A06 _CTAPOMAK_
[12:44] <FloodBot2> sfasdfsdfa: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:44] <Ben64> the main ports often show up as hubs
[12:44] <Ben64> what is mode +z?
[12:45] <industrial> I have compiled and installed Application X (vim 7.3 in my case) to ~/Applications/ApplicationX-0.1/. It is in my path because it is sourced in ~/.bashrc. How do I make my gnome-session and my gnome-do recognize it as something installed so I can start it and assign it to file types in nautilus etc.
[12:45] <sacarlson> amikrop: well I see that hub 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub  maybe that's build into your computer?
[12:45] <amikrop> sacarlson: keyboard, mouse, camera, and the HITACHI hard drive that isn't working. Those 4 devices.
[12:45] <Ben64> root hub = the motherboard
[12:45] <amikrop> sacarlson: I don't know, maybe.
[12:45] <industrial> s/\.$/?/
[12:46] <KE1HA> psyt7:  easiest way to turn it off, is to remove the SW that uses it, like cheese or something. The to remove the kernel module: modprobe -r <kernel_mole_fer_webcam>
[12:46] <Ben64> amikrop: you try the command i said earlier?
[12:46] <Ben64> sudo rmmod ehci_hcd
[12:46] <ilovefairuz> amikrop: try: echo "-1" | sudo tee /sys/module/usbcore/parameters/autosuspend
[12:46] <gnulinux> 大家好
[12:46] <Ben64> then plug the hard drive in again
[12:46] <ilovefairuz> !cn | gnulinux
[12:46] <amikrop> Ben64: excuse me, no, what does it do?
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> industrial:  use the 'properties' for a file with the extension you want to assign to it.   and tell it to open with your new vim
[12:47] <Ben64> amikrop: unloads the high speed usb driver
[12:47] <industrial> Dr_Willis: the problem is 'my new vim' isn't in the list
[12:47] <psyt7> KE1HA: ok. will try to locate it with lshw
[12:47] <gnulinux> 大家好
[12:47] <industrial> Dr_Willis: and it's not in the list because I compiled and installed it to my homedir myself, without apt
[12:47] <ilovefairuz> gnulinux: write: /join #ubuntu-cn
[12:47] <industrial> Dr_Willis: it is however bgin sourced in my bashrc and I can start it from the terminal
[12:48] <amikrop> Ben64: ERROR: Module ehci_hcd does not exist in /proc/modules
[12:48] <Ben64> hm
[12:48] <industrial> Dr_Willis: however my graphical interface doesn't seem to be catching on (or sourcing my .bashrc)
[12:48] <ilovefairuz> amikrop: try the command i gave you and replug the device
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> industrial:  i tell it to open with whatever app.. giving it the proper FULL path to the app..
[12:48] <thedudester> big problem
[12:48] <industrial> Dr_Willis: then I still can't start gvim from my gnome-do.
[12:48] <thedudester> need help, i had a problem with my logon resolution
[12:48] <Ben64> !ask
[12:49] <ilovefairuz> !details | thedudester
[12:49] <thedudester> so i entered some dudes in a ubuntu chatroom what to do
[12:49] <amikrop> ilovefairuz: nothing
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> industrial:  because gnomedo is special.. and dosent do it that way.. its also proberly looking for the first item that matches in the path.
[12:49] <ilovefairuz> amikrop: check dmesg
[12:49] <thedudester> and they told me to remove the xong.conf file
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> industrial:  make a script that lauinches your special version and give it a differnt name and put it in your ~/bin perhaps  for gnome do.
[12:49] <gnomefreak> the wee need to know the problem and give us detailos so we can help you
[12:49] <thedudester> and now i cant see anything when i log
[12:50] <thedudester> damn! please help me
[12:50] <amikrop> ilovefairuz: the same
[12:50] <gnomefreak> thedudester: my comment was for you
[12:50] <amikrop> Ben64: maybe uhci_hcd ?
[12:50] <industrial> Dr_Willis: How are other programs recognized as programs that are startable in the list of applications you can choose from when assigning one to a given file type?
[12:50] <Dr_Willis> thedudester:  X should reconfigure/auto configure by default if theres no xorg.conf
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> industrial:  from the definitions in the various whatever.desktop files i belive.
[12:51] <thedudester> Dr_Willis: so how come i cant see nothing when ubuntu loads?
[12:51] <ilovefairuz> amikrop: cat /sys/module/usbcore/parameters/autosuspend .. says what?
[12:51] <industrial> Dr_Willis: ok.
[12:51] <amikrop> ilovefairuz: -1
[12:52] <ilovefairuz> amikrop: pastebin: find /sys/ -name "autosuspend"
[12:52] <thedudester> Dr_Willis: when ubuntu loads i see nothing
[12:52] <sacarlson> amikrop: Ben64  in my lsmod I only see these two that must be use modules now,  usbhid                 36110  0  hid                    67032  1 usbhid
[12:52] <ilovefairuz> amikrop: and: cat `find /sys/ -name "autosuspend"`
[12:52] <thedudester> Dr_Willis: like if the screen was unpluged or something
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> thedudester:  clarify what you mean by nothing.. no GDM? No desktop? can you get to the consoles?
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> thedudester:  try alt-ctrl-f1 see if you can get to consoles
[12:53] <sacarlson> amikrop: Ben64 oh maybe they compile into kernel now so now module?
[12:53] <thedudester> Dr_Willis: no, im talking about black screen, and some OSD message that says some driver is missing
[12:54] <thedudester> Dr_Willis: i cant reinstall my OS, to much stuff on there
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> thedudester:  and your video card/chipset is?
[12:54] <thedudester> Dr_Willis: video card - nvidia 7X00 and chipset is intels...
[12:55] <ilovefairuz> thedudester: pastebin: sudo lshw -C display
[12:55] <thedudester> <ilovefairuz: what?
[12:55] <thedudester> ilovefairuz: i cant see nothing...
[12:56] <karlo> can I install flash player for lynx.. (yes it is dumb question but maybe there is some way) ?
[12:56] <gnomefreak> thedudester: what version of Ubuntu ar eyou using?
[12:56] <Dr_Willis> thedudester:  so you have no xorg.conf right now?  Do you have any backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf  files?
[12:56] <ilovefairuz> thedudester: switch to a virtual terminal (alt + f2) then: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && sudo lshw -C display  | pastebinit -
[12:56] <thedudester> i hope it will work
[12:57] <gnomefreak> karlo: no
[12:57] <thedudester> ill try that now
[12:57] <gnomefreak> Dr_Willis: is he on Lucid or Maverick?
[12:57] <amikrop> ilovefairuz: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/AEZNBX9G
[12:58] <gnomefreak> and if you dont see anything how are you here
[12:58] <ilovefairuz> amikrop:  cat `find /sys/ -name "autosuspend"`
[12:58] <amikrop> ilovefairuz: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/LRYeSkYA
[12:58] <vak> hi all
[12:58] <gnomefreak> karlo: lynx is a text based browser
[12:58] <vak> are there any recommended (PPA?) debian packages for MongoDB 1.6?
[12:59] <gnomefreak> vak: Debian doesnt have PPA that is only Ubuntu and no i dont think there is
[12:59] <vak> gnomefreak: oh, sry, i meant ".deb" :)
[13:00]  * vak is on Ubuntu 10.04
[13:00] <vak> are there any recommended (PPA?) packages for MongoDB 1.6?
[13:00] <karlo> gnomefreak, I know .. but maybe is some way to automatically open flash from website in vlc..
[13:02] <amikrop> ilovefairuz: any consclusions?
[13:02] <ilovefairuz> amikrop: echo "-1" | sudo tee `find /sys/ -name "autosuspend"`
[13:03] <gnomefreak> karlo: not using lynx you would have to download the flash video. firefox and other browsers have a plugin for it
[13:03] <amikrop> ilovefairuz: done. replug now?
[13:03] <ilovefairuz> amikrop: yes
[13:04] <amikrop> ilovefairuz: nothing. and dmesg says the same things
[13:04] <DogWater> When I do a mount -o remount, rw / it tells me the drive is not mounted but when I do df it shows that it is mounted, and if i do umount / it still shows it is mounted, anyone know what the deal is?
[13:05] <DogWater> I just need to edit a blown up fstab
[13:05] <ilovefairuz> amikrop: don't replug, reexcute the command and then do: sudo rmmod ehci_hcd &&  sudo modprobe ehci_hcd
[13:05] <Dr_Willis> DogWater:  perhaps tell it /dev/sdXX instead of /
[13:06] <polochon> hi
[13:06] <polochon> I have a little problem, when I launch perlbox-voice, it return me any problem, but I also have any kind of window of perlbox...
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> mount -o noatime,remount,rw /dev/hda3
[13:07] <polochon> and there is not a process called perlbox
[13:07] <DogWater> It just says / not mounted already, or bad option
[13:08] <Steelynose> hi, having a problem using NFS dir in XDG_DATA_DIRS
[13:08] <Steelynose> i have set the following in ~/.xprofile:
[13:09] <amikrop> ilovefairuz: ERROR: Module ehci_hcd does not exist in /proc/modules
[13:09] <Steelynose> XDG_DATA_DIRS=$XDG_DATA_DIRS:/usr/local/dist/share
[13:09] <Yoosah> whow hi all
[13:09] <Dr_Willis> isent .xprofile just read/used if you use 'startx'  not if you login via gdm/kdm? Or am i getting my .XXXXXX config files messed up again>
[13:10] <ilovefairuz> amikrop: just the second part then:  sudo modprobe ehci_hcd
[13:10] <Steelynose> after setting this gnome-session doesn't start up correctly: i get no menus and can't do anything, but the screensaver is active
[13:10] <Steelynose> after removing the file i can login correctly again
[13:11] <Leman_Russ> Evening
[13:11] <ilovefairuz> amikrop: ah not that one: sudo rmmod uhci_hcd; sudo modprobe uhci_hcd
[13:11] <Leman_Russ> Has anyone managed to get iTunes working in VirtualBox with Xp as the guest host?
[13:11] <Steelynose> dir /usr/local/dist is mounted from a remote nfs server
[13:11] <Leman_Russ> I can install it, but it crashes the instant I attempt to load it
[13:11] <Yoosah> does anyone here know something about unclean shutdown problems with lucid ?
[13:11] <Steelynose> i can correctly access this dir after console login
[13:11] <ilovefairuz> amikrop: check dmesg after that, if it didn't work: pastebin: cat `find /sys/ -name "autosuspend"`
[13:12] <Leman_Russ> Yoosah; what problems are you experiencing?
[13:12] <eztop> ubuntu support is lousy
[13:12] <Leman_Russ> eztop; honestly?
[13:12] <eztop> Leman_Russ: HONESTLY
[13:12] <tyrus> Afternoon good people
[13:12] <Yoosah> Leman_Russ: almost every time it powers down before the processes are done, resulting in boot problems later
[13:12] <tyrus> how is the going
[13:12] <amikrop> ilovefairuz: all -1
[13:13] <tyrus> now am having a usb device issue with ubunt
[13:13] <tyrus> am on 10.04
[13:13] <DogWater> ah I just had to do mount -o remount,rw /dev/sda1 /
[13:13] <Leman_Russ> eztop; what problems have you had?
[13:13] <tyrus> here is the story
[13:13] <ilovefairuz> amikrop: did you do: sudo rmmod uhci_hcd; sudo modprobe uhci_hcd    ?
[13:13] <tyrus> whenever i plug in my htc g1
[13:13] <erUSUL> !wnter | tyrus
[13:13] <erUSUL> !enter | tyrus
[13:13] <eztop> Leman_Russ: I installed lubuntu but it's been nothing but bugs
[13:14] <Leman_Russ> eztop; for example?
[13:14] <eztop> ubuntu/canonical ignore bugs... it's well documented by people
[13:14] <itsux2bu> i was told to use a command..  sudo grub-update     but ubuntu says  command not found.. i tried  sudo apt-get install grub-update   couldn't find package grub-update.. what other command might they have meant?
[13:14] <eztop> I advocate everyone switch to debian
[13:14] <Pici> eztop: Do you have a support question or are you just complaing?
[13:14] <amikrop> ilovefairuz: the same ERROR:
[13:14] <bazhang> !ot > eztop
[13:14] <amikrop> ilovefairuz: no module uhci_hcd
[13:14] <KE1HA> eztop:  then your probably in the wrong channel.
[13:15] <eztop> what's so funny?
[13:15] <ilovefairuz> amikrop: only the second part then: sudo modprobe uhci_hcd
[13:15] <ilovefairuz> amikrop: and check dmesg
[13:15] <eztop> you laugh at a user?
[13:15] <bazhang> eztop, support question?
[13:15] <Pici> eztop: Nothing is funny.  #ubuntu is for support, not complaints.
[13:15] <Misterio> eztop: If you like use it, if not don't use
[13:15] <amikrop> ilovefairuz: command OK, but nothing new on dmesg
[13:15] <ecolitan> i'm having some trouble setting up rsync ssh key auth for backuppc, i keep getting the error "Unable to read 4 bytes" but as far as I can see everything is setup correctly and i can ssh from the backuppc user on the server to root user on client without pw. does anyone what might be the cause?
[13:15] <eztop> yes, my support questions are why is nothing done if the report is present for several months?
[13:15] <amikrop> ilovefairuz: should I replug?
[13:15] <ilovefairuz> amikrop: no, just check dmsg
[13:16] <amikrop> ilovefairuz: nothing ne
[13:16] <eztop> the terminal window title bar is not even painted... it's not there
[13:16] <amikrop> new
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> Is Lubuntu actrually an 'officially' supported release yet? Ive never heard any say one way or the other on it
[13:16] <eztop> and the hibernate function on my laptop does not work ... my laptop crashes when i put the lid back up
[13:16] <ilovefairuz> amikrop: pastebin: lsmod
[13:17] <itsux2bu> i was told to use a command..  sudo grub-update     but ubuntu says  command not found.. i tried  sudo apt-get install grub-update   couldn't find package grub-update.. what other command might they have meant?
[13:17] <bazhang> itsux2bu, update-grub
[13:17] <Dr_Willis> itsux2bu:  its sudo update-grub i belive...
[13:17] <amikrop> ilovefairuz: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/WgWJtiTa
[13:17] <itsux2bu> ok.. lol
[13:17] <ilovefairuz> eztop: fix it yourself or switch a distro of your liking, it's Free software
[13:18] <sacarlson> eztop: my terminal window title bar is painted.  so maybe your problem is in your video driver?   do you use propriatary?
[13:18] <eztop> ilovefairuz:  yes, I will be switching
[13:18] <ilovefairuz> eztop: farewell then
[13:18] <Leman_Russ> eztop; what do you mean that the title bar is not painted
[13:18] <itsux2bu> worked..
[13:19] <Leman_Russ> :)
[13:19] <eztop> sacarlson:  it's not the driver... i installed debian lxde and it works
[13:19] <Esat> i use Ubuntu 10.04, when i leave in front of pc for a few minutes, the screen turns black mode (it is screensaver). this is normall. But when i type my password, it searchs more than 3 minutes, then the same window appear and i type passowrd and sign in. why the first time it takes for a long time?
[13:19] <xrfang> my kde desktop (kubuntu) suddenly lost all sounds, how do I diagnose and fix it? thanks
[13:19] <KE1HA> itsux2bu:  for updates: [ sudo grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg ] if grub is not installed [ sudo apt-get install grub-pc /dev/sdxx ] where sdxx is the mbr partition.
[13:19] <tyrus> ok got it
[13:19] <ilovefairuz> amikrop: sudo modprobe -v uhci_hcd .. any messages?
[13:19] <sacarlson> eztop: well if it's not the driver what is it? gnome?  if it's paited for me why not you?
[13:19] <Leman_Russ> xrfang; systematically work through all the places where the sound levels can be altered, and make sure they are all turned up
[13:20] <eztop> sacarlson:  because no one wants to fix the problem, that's why
[13:20] <tyrus> so like i was saying whenever i plug in my htc g1, after a reboot, its detected and the driver is loaded as usb-storage.
[13:20] <Leman_Russ> xrfang; once you have done that, and if you still dont have sound, we can look at alternatives
[13:20] <amikrop> ilovefairuz: on dmesg you mean?
[13:20] <jad> Cloud_, have u tried it, cuz on my pc its not working
[13:20] <sacarlson> eztop: well the first method of fixing something is to find out what is broken
[13:20] <amikrop> ilovefairuz: no, nothing
[13:20] <eztop> I reported two bugs in Launchpad already
[13:20] <thedudester> how can i make cairo dock load on everyboot?
[13:20] <eztop> no change
[13:20] <Leman_Russ> tyrus; what software are you using to access it normally?
[13:21] <tyrus> When i unplug the device and plug it in again, it doesnt get detected at all.
[13:21] <itsux2bu> KE1HA, this was the command they gave me..   sudo sed -i '/^GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=/{s/quiet//; s/splash//; s/" *"/""/;}' /etc/default/grub; sudo grub-update
[13:21] <ilovefairuz> eztop: are you paying them to fix it? are you compensating them for their time and effort?
[13:21] <sacarlson> eztop: can you pastebin your lshw  and lspci ?
[13:21] <Esat> i use Ubuntu 10.04, when i leave in front of pc for a few minutes, the screen turns black mode (it is screensaver). this is normall. But when i type my password, it searchs more than 3 minutes, then the same window appear and i type passoword  again and sign in. why the first time it takes for a long time?
[13:21] <jad> Cloud_,  neither is tput bel, echo -e -n \\a and echo -e "\007"
[13:21] <Leman_Russ> tyrus; has it EVER worked with Ubuntu?
[13:22] <ilovefairuz> amikrop: strange, anyhow, try https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/88746/comments/209
[13:22] <tyrus> Leman_Russ: I usually just auto mount it and it gets detected and yes it is usually detected after a boot or a reboot. After that it isnt detected at all.
[13:22] <sometux> how to make ubuntu boot faster?
[13:22] <KE1HA> itsux2bu:  that's just changing a parameter /default/grub
[13:22] <eztop> ilovefairuz:  so even though there's no problem with debian or mint... the devs need extra money to track it down?  i would rather switch distros but thanks for the remark
[13:22] <psyt7> KE1HA: I can turn it off temporary enabling usb suspend from powertop. this "cools down the cam" and saves me 0.8 W. is there any way to disable it (using usb suspend specifically for it) permanently?
[13:22] <KE1HA> and, the last bit was updating, but it was wrong way around :-)
[13:22] <xrfang> Leman_Russ: I think it is not volume problem, about a few days ago, kde popup a window saying that my sound card related device does not work and its gonna "permanently disable the device"... I am sorry that I didn't catch the mesage before ignorantly clicked "OK".
[13:23] <eztop> sacarlson:  what for?  apparently, the devs need extra money to fix these bugs
[13:23] <Leman_Russ> tyrus; and once it is mounted, what software are you using with it?  I mean, are you using something like F-Spot to access photos, or what?
[13:23] <ilovefairuz> eztop: they are swamped with issues, so eventually this or that issue will get overlooked
[13:23] <amikrop> ilovefairuz: ok, I am shuting down and power on
[13:23] <eztop> I've already pastebinned the bugs here and in the lubuntu channel
[13:23] <sacarlson> eztop:  you won't get any support if you don't respond to questions.
[13:23] <tyrus> Leman_Russ: yes I am getting an auto run using F-Spot
[13:23] <Esat> i use Ubuntu 10.04, when i leave in front of pc for a few minutes, the screen turns black mode (it is screensaver). this is normall. But when i type my password, it searchs more than 3 minutes, then the same window appear and i type passowrd and sign in. why the first time it takes for a long time?
[13:23] <xrfang> the problem may be related to an interuupted update, after reboot, I totally cannot control the keyboard and mouse (touchpad, while external mouse keyboard worked).
[13:23] <KE1HA> psyt7:  pass, dont know about that one mate.
[13:23] <jad> anyone here familiar with `beep` or `tput bel` or other beeping techniques
[13:23] <xrfang> and after resumed the upgrade, sounds does not come back
[13:24] <jad> cuz i can't seem to get them working
[13:24] <psyt7> KE1HA: oki. should be able to do it from bios, but not possible
[13:24] <OltreIrc`10003> hoi
[13:24] <Leman_Russ> tyrus; OK, I have had some similar issues with a Canon IXY 3000IS camera.  It doesn't appear to mount when I plug it in (doesn't show up in Computer or anything like that) but when I access it in F-Spot, I can see it fine
[13:25] <sacarlson> eztop: well pastebin the bug report page then if it's already here.
[13:25] <bazhang> !it | OltreIrc`10003
[13:25] <Leman_Russ> tyrus; not sure if it is exactly the same thing, but I suspect it is a similar bug
[13:25] <thedudester> how can i make cairo dock load on everyboot?
[13:25] <amikrop> ilovefairuz: it didn't work
[13:25] <mickster04> thedudester: add a cronjob? sudo crontab -e
[13:25] <KE1HA> psyt7:  it's probably a USB cam, most integrated ones are, so enabling with modprobe and disabling with modprobe -r should work. It does not delete the module, just disables it.
[13:26] <ilovefairuz> amikrop: remove the file and try http://www.bhcblog.com/2009/02/11/fix-for-device-descriptor-read64-error-71/
[13:26] <mickster04> thedudester: theres an @boot or something like that, read up about it
[13:26] <tyrus> Leman_Russ: this is happens ONLY after i reboot. When i unplug it, it doesnt get detected at all. and I have to reboot to have it detected once again
[13:26] <Leman_Russ> tyrus; I though t it might be something to do with the fact that my Camera is essentially an SD card with a lens attaches, which is putting an extra proprietary layer between the SD card and the computer, causing detection issues
[13:26] <Leman_Russ> tyrus; plug in the phone, go to the Terminal and type lsusb
[13:27] <mcl> ubuntu lucid gives probs : fatal server error : no screens found
[13:27] <tyrus> Leman_Russ: done, its detected via lsusb
[13:27] <psyt7> KE1HA: tried it. the module is back after reboot. found a workaround here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OGerlich/Powertop
[13:28] <Leman_Russ> Right, so it is being detected then!
[13:28] <Leman_Russ> That is a start!
[13:28] <psyt7> KE1HA: will try to add "echo auto > /sys/bus/usb/devices/5-8/power/level" to /etc/rc.local
[13:28] <katspaugh> thedudester: Add the cairo dock ".desktop" link to the "~/.config/autostart" folder.
[13:28] <katspaugh> thedudester: How's your resolution?
[13:29] <Esat> i use Ubuntu 10.04, when i leave in front of pc for a few minutes, the screen turns black mode (it is screensaver). this is normall. But when i type my password, it searchs more than 3 minutes, then the same window appear and i type passoword  again and sign in. why the first time it takes for a long time?
[13:29] <katspaugh> mickster04: @boot will be too early. X should load first.
[13:29] <KE1HA> psyt7:  was going to suggest a rc.local disable: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RcLocalHowto
[13:30] <mcl> can only load gnome savemode, and not gnome, needs help
[13:30] <amikrop> ilovefairuz: nothing, neither irqpoll worked
[13:30] <ouned> hi. im using ubuntu 10.04 and i have a problem with my wlan. I can connect correctly but it is soooo sloow... even when im only a few meters away from the router. Also change the usb-stick didnt help
[13:30] <psyt7> KE1HA: thanks. will try another reboot
[13:30] <kroson> ppl is ati power management supported in lucid (using opensource drivers) ?
[13:31] <KE1HA> psyt7:  rr, just link the rc.local to init.
[13:31] <psyt7> KE1HA: ok
[13:32] <amikrop> ilovefairuz: wait, I removed my camera. now I reboot again
[13:32] <blue112> Hello here. I think I have trouble with my ATI graphic card... Refresh problem, maybe. The problem is some area on the screen are blinking with gray rectangles (#5A5A5A rectangles). It appends on flash, on thunderbird, and sometime on a whole window. What can I do to fix that ?
[13:33] <benoit_> y a quelqu'un qui parle le français please?
[13:33] <blue112> !fr | benoit
[13:33] <blue112> +_
[13:33] <matrix> hi everyone
[13:33] <blue112> hi matrix
[13:34] <Leman_Russ> Hey
[13:34] <skumara> !hi > matrix
[13:35] <Leman_Russ> So, I managed to get Photoshop CS5 working in Ubuntu, nearly perfectly
[13:35] <mickster04> katspaugh: theres also @login i think
[13:35] <Leman_Russ> Anyone else managed this?
[13:35] <alkamid> hello
[13:35] <ilovefairuz> amikrop: echo "Y" | sudo tee /sys/module/usbcore/parameters/old_scheme_first .. and replug
[13:35] <mickster04> katspaugh: spend some time investigating it so you understand it properly
[13:35] <amikrop> ilovefairuz: No, it wan't the camera's fault. It is a strange problem, though, as the disk used to work yesterday and before.
[13:36] <sacarlson> Leman_Russ: didn't even know it existed.  how much better could it be than gimp?
[13:36] <alkamid> how to disable bluetooth at startup? I can't see it in "startup applications" but when I type "lsmod", it shows bluetooth
[13:36] <katspaugh> mickster04: OK, thanks. I don't think cron is a good tool to autostart Gnome applications though.
[13:37] <Misterio> alkamid: You would be able to use bluetooth if you install blueman
[13:37] <ilovefairuz> amikrop: it did? it could be a hardware problem after all..
[13:37] <Leman_Russ> sacarlson; much better.  Way easier to do things quickly, and just feels more professional.  I could never get on with GIMP
[13:37] <alkamid> Misterio, I know, but I use it so rarely that I don't need it at startup
[13:37] <tikal> #ubuntu-forums
[13:37] <thedudester> what is the best, or your favorite php editor? and does it have debugging options?
[13:37] <tikal> #ubuntuforums
[13:38] <amikrop> ilovefairuz: Oh. I plugged off the disk from electricity and plugged it in again. And it worked.
[13:38] <sol> oiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[13:38] <amikrop> ilovefairuz: It seems it *was* a hardware problem.
[13:38] <sol> yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[13:38] <benoit_> français
[13:38] <amikrop> ilovefairuz: I am really sorry I bothered you.
[13:38] <bazhang> benoit_, /join #ubuntu-fr
[13:38] <ilovefairuz> amikrop: Don't be. Glad it worked.
[13:38] <thedudester> what is the best, or your favorite php editor? and does it have debugging options?
[13:38] <thedudester> ?
[13:38] <skumara> i to see what is the type and frequency of ram?
[13:39] <amikrop> ilovefairuz: I couldn't imagine it would be that, though. It seems the disk has this problem once in a while. Sorry again, and thank you.
[13:39] <benoit_> where is the channel ubuntu.fr?
[13:39] <benoit_> i'm begginer
[13:39] <bazhang> benoit_, /join #ubuntu-fr
[13:39] <FusionX> how do i switch between processes in the terminal?
[13:39] <FusionX> and make them still running
[13:39] <erUSUL> !html | thedudester
[13:39] <FusionX> like i have a bot running
[13:39] <blue112> FusionX, ctrl + z => fg
[13:40] <blue112> or launch processes using &
[13:40] <benoit_> thanks bazhang,i know,but how?
[13:40] <FusionX> it stops the process blue112
[13:40] <KE1HA> thedudester:  probably best asked in #php
[13:40] <bazhang> benoit_, type that command
[13:40] <blue112> FusionX, fg launch it again
[13:40] <FusionX> [1]+ Stopped supybot Fb-Bot.conf
[13:40] <ilovefairuz> thedudester: eclipse and netbeans both have php debugging support
[13:40] <blue112> Hum, maybe it's bg
[13:40] <FusionX> blue112 : fg??
[13:40] <blue112> not fg
[13:40] <blue112> It's a command FusionX
[13:40] <flupke_> hello, I followed this guide to compile maverick kernel on lucid: http://blog.avirtualhome.com/2010/05/05/how-to-compile-a-ubuntu-lucid-kernel/ . but doing debian/rules editconfigs doesn't seem to save my changes
[13:40] <blue112> Try bg.
[13:40] <FusionX> k
[13:41] <FusionX> blue112 whats the command for bg?
[13:41] <blue112> Just "bg"
[13:41] <benoit_> I QUIT
[13:41] <blue112> FusionX, you may want to know about screen too.
[13:41] <mcl> how can i check which videocard i have in ubuntu, newbie
[13:41] <ilovefairuz> benoit: write: /join #ubuntu-fr
[13:42] <sometux> What the script init-bottom for?
[13:42] <FusionX> blue112 ik but i just want to make the process run in the background, without screen, i also want to know if there's a way to switch between running processes
[13:42] <ilovefairuz> benoit_ ^
[13:42] <eztop> how do you disable kms?
[13:42] <MegaHerz> hi
[13:42] <KE1HA> FusionX:  I use screen and dtach .. dtach seems a bit more friendly.
[13:42] <blue112> FusionX, using fg, bg and jobs, you can do it.
[13:42] <blue112> FusionX, you can go on #bash for further information :)
[13:42] <thedudester> thanks guys, you are awesome!
[13:42] <thedudester> linux forever!!
[13:43] <FusionX> blue112 ok thanks
[13:43] <maxime__> Hi !
[13:43] <MegaHerz> How can I change login and password for a printer? I see NO ANY option/button on something on prionter configuration dialog, while I see status "ACCESS DENIED" which means password was changed.
[13:43] <MegaHerz> This is smb:// printer from remote windows host
[13:43] <skumara> !hi |maxime_
[13:44] <sometux> What the script init-bottom is for?
[13:44] <flupke_> hello, I followed this guide to compile maverick kernel on lucid: http://blog.avirtualhome.com/2010/05/05/how-to-compile-a-ubuntu-lucid-kernel/ . but doing debian/rules editconfigs doesn't seem to save my changes
[13:44] <Adamus> hi all, can anyone help me out a bit with file backups
[13:44] <switchgirl> help, i have malware - firefox got hijacked
[13:44] <Besogon> hi! Where could I download ubuntu with all updates (with all service packes in it)?
[13:44] <Leman_Russ> Adamus; what do you need to know?
[13:44] <maxime__> I can't use mysql, I saw this error "ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)"
[13:44] <thedudester> Besogon: ubuntu.com
[13:44] <MegaHerz> maxime__: mysql -u root -p
[13:44] <ilovefairuz> !maverick | flupke_
[13:44] <MegaHerz> enter password
[13:45] <switchgirl> !malware
[13:45] <Adamus> Leman_Russ, well basically, EXT4 has the concept of ownership, right? So transferring a file to my girlfriends home folder means she cant open iit
[13:45] <maxime__> I tried
[13:45] <ilovefairuz> !virus > switchgirl
[13:45] <Leman_Russ> Adamus; are you copying or moving?
[13:45] <Adamus> Leman_Russ, if I drag files etc to an external hard disk, then format my machine, say doing an update or distro switch, will those files be locked because its not the same user?
[13:46] <switchgirl> ilovefairuz: wrong
[13:46] <switchgirl> ilovefairuz: i have malware
[13:46] <ilovefairuz> switchgirl: do you have the java plugin installed? disable it in firefox addons dialog and clear the cache
[13:46] <bazhang> switchgirl, from where
[13:46] <Leman_Russ> Adamus; I am not an expert on this subject, sorry, but I would imagine that even if they become locked, you can unlock them if you are admin
[13:46] <KE1HA> Besogon:  http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04.1/  is the most up to date, will be a few updates after, but not many.
[13:46] <gnomefreak> Besogon: the latest image is on ubuntu.com. but just upgrading the version you have will get you the latest
[13:47] <Adamus> Leman_Russ, ah right, I thought of just doing chmod a+rw on every file, but thats one hell of a step! lol
[13:47] <switchgirl> ilovefairuz: firefox keeps taking me to this malware address WARNING DO NOT CLICK THIS IT CONTAINS MALWARE ***DO NOT CLICK IT - will harm you pc*** http://www1.helpzone49.co.cc/tdp107_2135.php?p=p52dcWpla26HjsbIo216h4Ve0KCfYWCdU9LXoKith6Swz9KwoFqbnZxxmpinc4rapZxql2NrmGCaZGXIXsSK1qWYpqvYnpRfo3FfqKGopJ6eU8rPnZVqWqihyaSfVpnWapyYkWJuZWSWk5FrZWZfpp2adaHVodSgYF%2BPppOr15LOlaLPm9bYkZSmn2XE19eikZaiomeWpKjIXMfYkqlapJqn2JzVX2%2Bpjs%2FUyKOlm5eSosedk6GsWqyndWqT
[13:47] <MegaHerz> Ok, now after one year of f...g with printing from Ubuntu I see - this is shit.
[13:47] <switchgirl> how do i get rid of it?
[13:47] <ilovefairuz> switchgirl: check what I told you
[13:47] <Besogon> KE1HA, thanks
[13:47] <Guest70174> does anyone know if/when the Oracle Java JRE in the Partner repository  will be updated to the latest version ( update 21 ) ?
[13:47] <gnomefreak> switchgirl: the link appears to be broken from what browser tells me
[13:48] <Leman_Russ> Adamus; yeah that would be insane.  I wonder if there is a way to batch process with chmod.  Does anybody know?
[13:48] <ilovefairuz> gnomefreak: man, it's a malware link
[13:48] <sometux> Why the startup script "init-bottom" takes so long (about 15 sec) to execute on my machine?
[13:48] <undifined> Adamus, you can always reown the file by sudo chown <user>.<group> (file) or sudo chown -R <user>.<group> (directory)
[13:48] <switchgirl> gnomefreak: i said DO NOT click it.... it does contain malware
[13:48] <Steelynose> also if XDG_DATA_DIRS is set via /etc/environment the gnome session doesn't start up correctly
[13:48] <gnomefreak> switchgirl: i get a 404 in firefox and an oops broken link in chromium
[13:48] <maxime__> Thanks It works !!!
[13:49] <ilovefairuz> switchgirl: after you disable the java plugin clear the cache for ALL the time
[13:49] <gnomefreak> switchgirl: i can get away with it :)
[13:49] <Steelynose> Dr_Willis: any idea?
[13:49] <newerror123> hey! my mouse pad works in one user but doesnot work in another. Why??
[13:49] <user> pwt
[13:50] <gnomefreak> switchgirl: if it does something for you i would say go to help -> report a broken site (or something like that
[13:50] <jorn80> I have a lot of family members and friends who complain that their online banking is not working :( Does anyone know if or when the Oracle JRE package will be updated to the latest version ?
[13:50] <gnomefreak> report broken website
[13:50] <bazhang> !sysinfo
[13:51] <Leman_Russ> newerroe123; have you checked the Mouse Preference for both users?
[13:51] <jussi> jorn80: I find the sun-java6-plugin is enough to get most internet banking sites working
[13:51] <KE1HA> sometux:  That's all part of the initramfs tool set, could be any number of reasons, drivers loading or a driver issue, system resources etc. Here's the manpage for more info, but it's not a stright forward answer. :http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/jaunty/man8/initramfs-tools.8.html
[13:51] <pk__> i installed ubuntu...but i dont know what griphics drivers to install
[13:51] <pksadiq> !help
[13:51] <jussi> !ati | pk__
[13:52] <pk__> but i dont know which card i have
[13:52] <ilovefairuz> pk__: open a terminal and type: sudo lshw -C display
[13:52] <ilovefairuz> !terminal | pk__
[13:52] <skumara> pk_ go system administration hardware drivers and see there any graphic card listed or not.
[13:52] <diva> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9784344&posted=1#post9784344
[13:53] <pk__> wait let me see
[13:53] <ServerTech> Hmm, how can i totally diable iptables. I do not want to use it
[13:53] <ilovefairuz> ServerTech: sudo ufw disable
[13:54] <Adamus> undifined, thanks for that. I take it then that any user can chown the file?
[13:54] <pk__> 771/671 pcie vga display adapter vendor : silicon integrated systems
[13:54] <ServerTech> thx
[13:54] <Adamus> undifined, so long as they have the admin password, regardless of the original owner?
[13:55] <pk__> this is shown in output of lshw -C display
[13:55] <undifined> Adamus, don't give out your admin password :)
[13:55] <Adamus> undifined, im not going to :P
[13:56] <skumara> pk__,  go system >administration >hardware drivers and see there any graphic card listed or not.
[13:56] <pk__> no
[13:56] <pk__> there is none
[13:56] <Adamus> undifined, here's what miffed me. The ext4 filesystem has a concept of ownership right. So say my login in a Ubuntu box is Adam. But I want those files to go on a separate PC where the user is Kiri or Dave etc etc, does it matter who the original owner was, so long as the current system I'm logged into has admin
[13:56] <switchgirl> gnomefreak: it is ironic that it took me to a official looking windows install screen
[13:57] <ilovefairuz> !paste | pk__
[13:57] <switchgirl> #ubuntu 1 windows malware 0
[13:57] <Adamus> undifined, its because I want to move files froma  USB hard disk Linux install to my desktop box, both have different users
[13:57] <truefalse> What's the easiest way to have ubuntu auto download files to a remote folder?
[13:58] <Adamus> undifined, maybe I'm just being overly complex and confusing myself :P
[13:58] <pk__> ilovefairuz: what do you want me to paste?
[13:58] <truefalse> I tried to use sshfs, but it doesn't auto save them there, it prompts me each time
[13:58] <ilovefairuz> pk__: sudo lshw -C display
[13:58] <pk__> i cannot paste  the output as i am on a different computer
[13:58] <ilovefairuz> switchgirl: still hijacked after clearing the cache?
[13:58] <pk__> but this comamnd is showing vga compatible controller
[13:59] <pk__> 771/671 pcie vga display adapter
[13:59] <undifined> Adamus, indeed user 1000 on one system has name dave, while on the other it may be that user 1000 is jenny, moving files from daves computer suddenly are owned by jenny
[13:59] <pk__> silicon integrated systems
[13:59] <ilovefairuz> pk__: does it have an internet connection? sudo apt-get install pastebinit && sudo lshw -C display | pastebinit
[13:59] <ilovefairuz> pk__:  | pastebinit -
[14:00] <ankush> hi.. i converted a jpg image into xpm using convert command and gz it and stored it as splash.xpm.gz. , But it didnt work.. does anyone know y?
[14:00] <bazhang> xserver-xorg-video-sis pk__ is that installed?
[14:00] <truefalse> No?
[14:00] <pk__> bazhang: how do i check it
[14:00] <bazhang> pk__, check in synaptic package manager?
[14:00] <Adamus> undifined, what if the UID is different?
[14:00] <switchgirl> gnomefreak: nope fixed it - made a work around by startying it in a private session
[14:01] <pk__> yes
[14:01] <pk__> it is installed
[14:01] <pk__> but i dont have a good resolution
[14:01] <gnomefreak> switchgirl: didnt see an issue with the site at all but anyway it would be a good idea to not leave a link if you dont want people to click on it
[14:01] <pk__> on windows i used to get 1024x768
[14:01] <undifined> Adamus, different is good, means more secure, but more work to change permissions too
[14:02] <gnomefreak> some people dont care about warnings. im always happy to test links since i have 5 or so browsers
[14:02] <undifined> Adamus, better to have all users in a certral location
[14:02] <sipior> ankush: how did it not work? also, what command line did you use?
[14:02] <switchgirl> gnomefreak: sometimes it's important to send a link to see the issue
[14:02] <gnomefreak> and can fix what goes wrong
[14:02] <pk__> bazhang: ^
[14:02] <Adamus> undifined, well is there a way of automatically dropping file permissions? Like putting the backups in a tarball, or moving them to the public folder?
[14:02] <undifined> Adamus, and share files by group
[14:02] <ankush> sipior: i used convert $file.jpg $file.xpm
[14:02] <gnomefreak> switchgirl: never a good idea to do that unless you expect people to click a link without knowning
[14:03] <sipior> ankush: right, but what failed, exactly?
[14:03] <Adamus> undifined, okay what if i backup data to a DVD from user Adam, on my Ubuntu box, for later use and when I go back to the disc, I'm using SUSE with a different username, will the files be accesible?
[14:03] <ankush> sipior: it didnt work , the image did chng at boot but it all become flooded.. colors blowing away...etc
[14:03] <undifined> Adamus, depends on the situation
[14:04] <ilovefairuz> switchgirl: export your favorites, close firefox, delete your firefox profile (~/.mozilla) and reimport them on next run
[14:04] <undifined> Adamus, files would be stored by uid
[14:04] <undifined> Adamus, ubuntu users start with 1000, while suse may start by 100 or 500
[14:05] <sipior> ankush: oh, this is for a boot splash screen?
[14:05] <ankush> sipior: yes..
[14:05] <Adamus> undifined, so the only way to use a backup from a different uid is to go= it?
[14:05] <bazhang> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-sis-771671-mirage-3-video-drivers-in-ubuntu-10-04-lucid.html pk__ this card?
[14:05] <ilovefairuz> switchgirl: i would suggest using chrome for general browsing (but disable the java plugin either way)
[14:05] <sipior> ankush: 'fraid i don't play around with that sort of thing very often. my computers don't reboot much.
[14:06] <Adamus> undifined, then again, in Linux, so long as I can read the file I'm allowed to copy it right?
[14:06] <adminewb> having consistent difficulty here with gnome desktop login on lucid; where should I look for bug reports?
[14:06] <undifined> Adamus, yes
[14:06] <ankush> hi.. i converted a jpg image into xpm using convert command and gz it and stored it as splash.xpm.gz. , But it didnt work.. does anyone know y?
[14:06] <Adamus> undifined, then maybe there wouldn't be a problem after all lol
[14:06] <undifined> :)
[14:07] <sacarlson> adminewb: what wrong password?
[14:07] <sipior> ankush: you'll want to mention in your question that you're trying to use it as a boot splash screen. that's relevant data.
[14:07] <adminewb> no, lockup under certain conditions
[14:07] <Adamus> undifined, I just distinctly remember trying to take some wallpapers from my desktop to my girlfriends laptop using linux, and all the files were inaccessible
[14:07] <sipior> ankush: also, is this making use of plymouth or not?
[14:08] <sacarlson> adminewb: propriatary video drivers?
[14:08] <adminewb> sacarlson no
[14:08] <ankush> hi.. i converted a jpg image into xpm using convert command and gz it and stored it as splash.xpm.gz. , But at the boot time image didnt show up right... does anyone know y?
[14:08] <sacarlson> adminewb: certain conditions?  do you know what conditions they are?
[14:08] <ankush> sipior: no, not yet
[14:09] <adminewb> sacarlson: whole system freezes when I logout from one account while another has a session suspended
[14:09] <jef91> Howdy All, trying to connect to a network share server at work but Samab can't find the box.
[14:09] <adminewb> can't Ctrl-Alt-Del or press any key
[14:09] <adminewb> Num(&c)-Lock have no effect on LEDs
[14:09] <undifined> Adamus, well now you know the tools to change permissions
[14:10] <jef91> I know the workgroup and sever/share name, but not the IP address of the box. Can I connect to the share with just this information?
[14:10] <Adamus> undifined, ah so all i'd of had to do was open a terminal and chmod the files?
[14:10] <adminewb> sacarlson: at that point only hard reset works to revive system
[14:10] <wereHamster> is it possible to upgrade a x86 server to x86_64 on the fly (while the server is runnign)? Or offline?
[14:11] <jef91> werehamster NO
[14:11] <adminewb> sacarlson: where's an appropriate place for such bug reports?
[14:11] <undifined> Adamus, chmod changes rwxrwxrwx values, chown changes ownership
[14:11] <jef91> werehamster You need to reinstall the operating system to go from x86 to x86_64
[14:11] <Adamus> undifined, aaaaaaah okay, so all id do is chown <username>
[14:11] <Adamus> undifined, etc
[14:11] <ankush> has anyone tried replacing boot image present in /boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz wid any othr xpm image. it isnt working
[14:11] <undifined> Adamus, yes
[14:12] <Adamus> undifined, wow, okay I was overcomplicating things then hehe!
[14:12] <ilovefairuz> ankush: google "create plymouth theme"
[14:12] <newerror123> how to fix mouse problem
[14:12] <undifined> Adamus, and looking to the man page too
[14:12] <wereHamster> jef91: thank god the server is running under vmware, so installing a separate VM shouldn't be an issue :)
[14:12] <undifined> Adamus, man chown
[14:12] <Adamus> undifined, yeah I just chown --help :P
[14:12] <ankush> ilovefairuz: plz see the problem posted..i am not using plymouth
[14:12] <undifined> Adamus, the recurive functions i use alot
[14:12] <jef91> haha yes, that helps wereHamster
[14:12] <sacarlson> adminewb: ok so If I switch users from sacarlson to my test account then logout of test it frezzes every time?  I can do that ok.  another has a session suspended?  what does that mean.  do we have 3 sessions running now?
[14:13] <sipior> ankush: might be useful: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-89916.html
[14:13] <Adamus> undifined, recursive meaning all files in a directory are changed as well?
[14:13] <undifined> Adamus, yes
[14:13] <Adamus> undifined, ah thats good to know
[14:13] <adminewb> sacarlson: suspended, meaning a user logged in and switched to another gnome user session
[14:14] <Adamus> undifined, so just backup stuff to DVD in a folder, if I have any problems chown -R the folder and bingo :D
[14:14] <undifined> Adamus, indeed
[14:14] <sacarlson> adminewb: this is only total 2 user accounts with one user?
[14:14] <adminewb> sacarlson: didn't mean to indicate the system menu's "suspend" option, which I would call standby myself
[14:14] <Adamus> undifined, fantastic, whod of thought I could originally get compiz running 3 days after it was released, but I dont know how to take ownership of a file! :P
[14:15] <adminewb> sacarlson: not sure I follow
[14:15] <adminewb> sacarlson: if I login to one acct, switch to a 2nd, logout from that, it freezes
[14:16] <sacarlson> adminewb: how many accounts are we playing with in these sessions.  ok well I do that all the time with no problems.  not sure what I would do thats different.  on 10.04
[14:17] <adminewb> sacarlson: yes 10.04 lucid, I'll try to see if there are other more subtle conditions necessary to trigger lockup
[14:17] <sacarlson> adminewb: maybe it has something to do with the application that was running when you did the session swap
[14:17] <adminewb> sacarlson: anyway my initial question still stands: where to look for bug reports?
[14:18] <skumara> adminewb, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[14:18] <adminewb> skumara thanks
[14:18] <sacarlson> adminewb: I would google it also. it may not all be in ubuntu.
[14:18] <newerror123> how to change username@thisone    ?
[14:18] <Adamus> undifined, thanks for your help bud
[14:19] <undifined> Adamus, np
[14:19] <adminewb> sacarlson: afaik, all that is needed to cause the problem are ordinary desktop processes in the "suspended" session, as in Nautilus, gedit windows, etc
[14:19] <adminewb> sacarlson, not sure if it will trigger if the suspended session has nothing in it that the user launched
[14:20] <sacarlson> adminewb: I've left and came back with nautilus, firefox pidgin  and some terminals running with no problems
[14:21] <adminewb> sacarlson: ok noted
[14:21] <newerror123> ubuntu has RLX -vs error
[14:21] <LHYX> .
[14:22] <newerror123> it says 'File locked: RLX-vs 0091 failed'
[14:23] <sacarlson> adminewb: oh maybe it's a memory problem
[14:24] <sacarlson> adminewb: did you ever look with top and see how much mem you have left.  with another session open I'm sure it will need more mem.
[14:24] <davidstrauss> I'm having trouble with my SD card reader on Ubuntu 10.04.1 on a ThinkPad T510. Nothing seems to show up.
[14:25] <sacarlson> davidstrauss: did you try more than one sd card?  I've had some that just don't work anymore
[14:26] <pksadiq> i'm back  after breaking fast
[14:26] <davidstrauss> sacarlson, This one works in another machine with Ubuntu 10.04
[14:26] <newerror123> give me your ip address to solve that problem
[14:27] <rkhshm> is there anything wrong with packages.ubuntu.com ?
[14:27] <sacarlson> davidstrauss: can you boot an older live boot or run windows and see it work in that system?
[14:27] <rkhshm> Im unable to download packages.
[14:27] <newerror123> if u ping, your ip address will be revealed
[14:27] <davidstrauss> sacarlson, I'll try attaching the device to a Windows VM and seeing if it works.
[14:27] <sacarlson> davidstrauss: sounds like a plan
[14:29] <davidstrauss> sacarlson, It's not showing up as a USB device for reattachment to the VM.
[14:29] <newerror123> you can post Viruses through this chat room!!
[14:29] <sacarlson> davidstrauss: you using virtualbox?  if so you need to give it privlage to use it
[14:30] <davidstrauss> sacarlson, I know. It's just not showing up at all for me to give such permission.
[14:30] <rkhshm> can anyone let me know where i can find the libdb4.8-dev source tarball pls
[14:30] <rkhshm> on the web
[14:30] <vuln> Hello there. I would like to downgrade PostgreSQL to version 8.2 in Ubuntu. Could I make it with Synaptic?
[14:30] <jatt> !pin
[14:30] <davidstrauss> sacarlson, I see a bunch of other USB devices, just not the SD card reader.
[14:30] <sacarlson> davidstrauss: It's usb?  sounds like maybe hardware problem
[14:30] <davidstrauss> sacarlson, I'm not 100% sure it's USB, but it would seem silly to connect an SD card reader any other way.
[14:30] <KE1HA> Davidian1024:  if the SD is not showing on the Host OS, probably wont in a VM either.
[14:31] <davidstrauss> KE1HA, I'm not sure what to look for in kernel messages for proper detecton.
[14:31] <sacarlson> davidstrauss: well on my eeepc it has an sd card reader and it not using usb
[14:32] <davidstrauss> sacarlson, Is it on SATA or something?
[14:32] <KE1HA> Davidian1024:  well, it's either FW - 1394 or USB, most that i've used is USB.
[14:32] <sacarlson> davidstrauss: I don't recall it's not here
[14:33] <sacarlson> davidstrauss: maybe you need to try fdisk -l  to see it
[14:33] <davidstrauss> sacarlson, I would expect it to show up in disk utility if it were connected to a traditional disk controller
[14:34] <sacarlson> davidstrauss: ya it should show up in gparted
[14:34] <newerror123> new UBUNTU virus made..
[14:35] <Pici> newerror123: Do you have anything relevant for this channel?
[14:35] <davidstrauss> sacarlson, Lucid doesn't use gparted for the disk manager
[14:35] <Raydiation1> how is the old mixer applet called?
[14:35] <zeknox> my ubuntu 10.04 always shuts down properly, but whenever I turn it on, it says it was not a clean unmount, and does a fsck every bootup, ideas?
[14:36] <Raydiation1> gnome-mixer-applet?
[14:36] <KE1HA> try System >> Admin >> Disk Utility
[14:36] <blue112> Raydiation1, you can check gnome-alsamixer
[14:36] <sacarlson> davidstrauss: what does it use?  that's what I'm running on 10.04
[14:36] <Raydiation1> blue112: is this for the applet in the gnome-panel?
[14:37] <davidstrauss> sacarlson, "Disk Utility 2.30.1"
[14:37] <blue112> Raydiation1, nop.
[14:37] <davidstrauss> sacarlson, "© 2007-2009 Red Hat, Inc."
[14:37] <KE1HA> Davidian1024:  oddly enough, thats a RH package :-)
[14:37] <sacarlson> davidstrauss:  I'm using it GParted 0.5.1  on 10.04 ubuntu
[14:37] <davidstrauss> sacarlson, And it is not a whitelabel of gparted. I have used gparted.
[14:37] <adminewb> sacarlson, just eliminated a few variables, it's somewhat easier triggering the lockup than I thought: doesn't matter if the inactive session has any user launched processes or not, and you don't have to logout to cause it -- switching users again triggers it too
[14:38] <davidstrauss> sacarlson, But I'll happily install gparted.
[14:38] <KE1HA> You can id you want too, but if fdisk -l and Disk Utility aren't picking up the disk, odds are gparted won't either.
[14:38] <sacarlson> adminwb maybe a memory problem?  what does top say you have?
[14:38] <KE1HA> if*
[14:39] <adminewb> sacarlson, I also shut down a custom service (foldingathome) which I thought might distinguish between your working rig and mine: still same effect
[14:39] <jimcooncat> is it possible to use vinagre's ssh tunnelling with an alternate port? I can't seem to get it to work correctly; ssh with pubkey auth works fine
[14:39] <davidstrauss> KE1HA, agreed
[14:40] <sacarlson> jimcooncat; yes you can
[14:40] <adminewb> sacarlson, doubt it's memory but I'll try a term window capture of top (does Alt-PrtScr work?)
[14:40] <sacarlson> jimcooncat: it must be setup on the server side also
[14:41] <KE1HA> adminewb:  Yes
[14:41] <sacarlson> adminewb: I only have 2gig and works fine.  but I'm not sure what processes you run.
[14:42] <sacarlson> adminewb: ya print screen should work.
[14:42] <adminewb> can ubuntu pastebin take image files?
[14:42] <perlmonkey> hi
[14:42] <jimcooncat> sacarlson: I must not be specifying the ssh host correctly, I'm using myhost,com:4422 (my alternate ssh port)
[14:42] <perlmonkey> is there a chatroom for wine
[14:43] <sacarlson> jimcooncat: is the server listening on that port?
[14:43] <Misterio> perlmonkey: /join #winehq
[14:44] <jimcooncat> sacarlson: yes, no problem logging in with ssh user@myhost.com -p 4422
[14:44] <sacarlson> jimcooncat:  and ssh -P 4422 sacarlson@thisip  is the method I know
[14:44] <perlmonkey> Misterio thanks
[14:45] <Misterio> perlmonkey: You're welcome
[14:46] <sacarlson> jimcooncat: that might work but is the server side listening?   what does the /etc/ssh/sshd_config  have it?
[14:46] <adminewb> sacarlson, system has 3Gb system memory and all of it appears to be addressable by lucid; where do I paste my screen image?
[14:46] <sacarlson> jimcooncat: on the server side?
[14:47] <commander-ape> quick question: is ubuntu landscape still only for paying customers? Is there a freeware alternative?
[14:47] <sajish> hi, how to diable sleep mode
[14:47] <sacarlson> !pastebin
[14:47] <sajish> ubuntu 10.04
[14:47] <Pici> commander-ape: Yes, its only for Canonical customers who pay.
[14:47] <sacarlson> adminewb: I guess the tynyurl.com one
[14:48] <sajish> how to disable sleep mode in ubuntu 10.04 ?
[14:48] <jimcooncat> sacarlson: on the server side the config hosts port 22 and port 4422; where the gateway box NAT's 4422. Works fine when I do command-line port forwarding from home
[14:48] <sacarlson> adminewb: not lickly you filled that much memory.  what did it have left with one user?
[14:48] <commander-ape> Pici: any free alternatives?
[14:49] <zzzed_> sajish, System->Preferences->Power Management
[14:49] <adminewb> sacarlson, http://imagebin.org/112018
[14:49] <jimcooncat> sacarlson: I just can't seem to use vinagre's built-in tunnelling. I'm scripting a local forward now, so no big deal.
[14:49] <adminewb> sacarlson, there appears to be plenty of memory for as many users as I care to start up
[14:50] <sajish> still its sleeping after 15min
[14:50] <sacarlson> adminewb: wow you exe files are burning up all your cpu
[14:50] <Dynamic_Fail> I am having trouble getting my com port to work in ubuntu. I enabled it in the bios and then when I try to connect to my device via putty it only will show one letter each time i hit enter. When I connect the device to another pc it works fine via serial... any ideas what could be the problem?
[14:50] <adminewb> sacarlson, yes that's the purpose
[14:50] <Pici> commander-ape: I don't know of any :/
[14:51] <adminewb> sacarlson, FaH is there to consume otherwise idle CPU clocks
[14:51] <sacarlson> adminewb: well my guess is without those running it won't freez
[14:51] <adminewb> sacarlson, actually I just tried that, no go
[14:51] <adminewb> sacarlson, with or without FaH, system still locks up
[14:52] <jimmy51_> in fstab, what does noatime 0 1 mean?
[14:52] <sacarlson> adminewb: well what if you do it from a live boot cd?
[14:53] <adminewb> sacarlson, I'll try live boot image, but I strongly suspect that's the same deal
[14:53] <adminewb> sacarlson, my suspicion is it's more connected to your initial question, having to do with the display driver
[14:54] <sacarlson> adminewb: well all I know is it don't do it to me.  so if it does then it is eather your hardware or some combinations of software you setup.  with live boot it should isolate it to hardware.
[14:54] <adminewb> ok off to some lab work to isolate this...
[14:55] <adminewb> sacarlson, yes my dual display might give it conniptions
[14:55] <sacarlson> adminewb: I would say that's posible since it seems my video goes flashing into another mode when move sesions.
[14:55] <adminewb> sacarlson, even though the 2nd display isn't in use
[14:56] <kokozedman> hey people
[14:56] <sacarlson> adminewb: yes snd display could do it. try turn it off or disable it.
[14:56] <kokozedman> just a question: is it possible to combine multiple internet into one?
[14:56] <adminewb> sacarlson, it is turned off & disabled
[14:56] <sacarlson> adminewb: in bios?
[14:57] <adminewb> sacarlson, fact that it shows up in PCI inventory though might matter...
[14:57] <kokozedman> i have 3 distinct internet from 3 different modems ... it would be really great if it is possible to combine the bandwidth of the 3 into 1
[14:57] <adminewb> sacarlson, I doubt the BIOS knows anything other than the primary display it talks to
[14:57] <bastidrazor> jimmy51_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fstab  ..this will explain all options for fstab
[14:57] <sacarlson> adminewb: I would think it's the most lickly some kind of conflict with irq or something with the displays.  if you try disable one in bios it won't be seen.
[14:58] <adminewb> sacarlson, doubtful that dual display has resource conflict; both displays are in use on my Windows installation
[14:58] <jimmy51_> bastidrazor: thanks.  i think he's got fstab correct... /dev/sda1 /media/Storage ext3 defaults 0 2.  it's acting read only though.  would the creation of /media/Storage by sudo mean a standard user can't write to a partition mapped under it?
[14:58] <NBrepresent> Hey, I'm currently dual-booting XP and ubuntu. Can anyone link me to a tutorial on how to switch completely to ubuntu without having to set everything up again (no fresh install)?
[14:58] <jimmy51_> *mounted
[14:59] <sacarlson> adminewb: I asume you have one internal to the motherboard and anotherpluged in.   so you can eather unplug one or disabe the other
[14:59] <adminewb> sacarlson, it's just too much headache to get them both configured on Linux
[14:59] <adminewb> sacarlson, yes it's one IGP unit (PCI bus) and one expansion slot (PCIe)
[15:00] <perlmonkey> hi
[15:00] <thedudester> just downloaded eclipse, but i need eclipse PHP and not eclipse java... i downloaded the tar.gz plugin but i dont know how to install it..
[15:00] <thedudester> any help?
[15:00] <bastidrazor> jimmy51_: what are the permissions of the directory /media/Storage ?  have him change the permissions to rwx for all or give himself ownership of the Storage directory
[15:00] <ta_bu_shi_da_yu> hi, I can't seem to connect to au.archive.ubuntu.com when I run a build-dep of openoffice.org
[15:00] <perlmonkey> my wine application will no longer start, any suggestions welcome
[15:00] <ta_bu_shi_da_yu> anyone know what's going on with that?
[15:00] <jimmy51_> bastidrazor: ok.  i wanted to make sure that sounded reasonable before proposing it.  thanks!
[15:01] <thedudester>  just downloaded eclipse, but i need eclipse PHP and not eclipse java... i downloaded the tar.gz plugin but i dont know how to install it..
[15:01] <adminewb> sacarlson, with regard to assigning IRQs to display channels: hasn't that been fixed already by the time grub puts up a boot menu?
[15:01] <thedudester>  just downloaded eclipse, but i need eclipse PHP and not eclipse java... i downloaded the tar.gz plugin but i dont know how to install it.. anyone?
[15:02] <adminewb> sacarlson, since Windows is fine with dual display, I see no reason to believe there's an IRQ conflict affecting only Linux
[15:02] <thedudester> why no one answer my question?
[15:02] <sacarlson> adminewb: I have no idea about that.  and when you say it locks up is the computer maybe still running just not visible on the screen?  can you ssh in?
[15:02] <perlsyntax> How do i get all the filei need to compile emacs?
[15:02] <zulax> i wrote a rewrite cond on a virutal host file, but doesnt seem to work
[15:03] <blue112> I have trouble with my ATI graphic card... Refresh problem, maybe. The problem is some area on the screen are blinking with gray rectangles (#5A5A5A rectangles). It appends on flash, on thunderbird, and sometime on a whole window. What can I do to fix that ? I'm in dual screen mode, too.
[15:03] <zulax> mod_rewrite is also on
[15:03] <xektrum> hello, what is the maximum memory support for ubuntu server 32bits ?
[15:03] <sam898889> ** is there no way to boot from USB using a macbook?? i need to reinstall ubuntu but i dont have any CDs left~~~! heeeelp
[15:03] <xektrum> I know might be a silly question but theres 32 bits versions of windows that support beyond 4GB
[15:03] <adminewb> sacarlson, during lockup everything is frozen except perhaps disk activity light(?) can't press Ctrl-Alt-Fx to switch to a character mode term display or switch NumLock or anything
[15:03] <sacarlson> adminewb: all I can tell you is no one else here has ever brought up this problem with sesions that I've seen here.
[15:03] <perlsyntax> if i want the file to build eac i have to do this
[15:03] <arpegius> i need to do an fsck on a ubuntu vm. when i press escape at the grub boot menu to go into recovery mode, it prompts me for the root password. i type in what i normally do to sudo su, but that doesn't work. ideas?
[15:03] <Pici> ta_bu_shi_da_yu: Looks like something weird is going on with that mirror.  I suggest trying a different one at this time.  I'll poke the canonical folks to take a look at it.
[15:04] <perlsyntax> apt-get build-dep emacs23?
[15:04] <odb|fidel> sam898889: intel-macs should be able to boot from usb
[15:04] <sipior> xektrum: should be 64GB. maximum.
[15:04] <thedudester> cant anyone help me with this problem?
[15:04] <ta_bu_shi_da_yu> Pici thanks
[15:04] <thedudester>  just downloaded eclipse, but i need eclipse PHP and not eclipse java... i downloaded the tar.gz plugin but i dont know how to install it..
[15:04] <georgelm_> how do I fix broken packages? what is the right command?
[15:04] <odb|fidel> sam898889: press ALT while booting your macbook - should show all bootable devices
[15:04] <sam898889> odb|fidel,   ok  great! ill give it a try
[15:04] <xektrum> sipior, and what about desktop?
[15:04] <sacarlson> adminewb: other than try the disable one video I have no other ideas.
[15:04] <perlsyntax> got it to work
[15:04] <thedudester> why no one answer me!?!?!??!
[15:05] <xektrum> should I install any kernel mods or something?
[15:05] <bazhang> !helpme | thedudester
[15:05] <bhest> Hi, im trying to install teamspeak3 server on my Ubuntu machine. But im lacking som basic insight in how to start the server. Im using the following command to start it: user@server:~$ sudo start-stop-daemon --chuid teamspeak --chdir /opt/tss2_rc2 --start --exec /opt/tss2_rc2/server_linux But it says it cannot find the file oddly enough
[15:05] <adminewb> sacarlson, I understand that somehow my situation is unusual
[15:05] <sipior> xektrum: by default, the desktop kernel does not include PAE, i believe, and so you'd be left with 4GB.
[15:05] <Crankygeek01> Anyone know of a web based irc client ?
[15:05] <thedudester> ok so i post my question for the last time, hope it will be answered
[15:05] <thedudester>  just downloaded eclipse, but i need eclipse PHP and not eclipse java... i downloaded the tar.gz plugin but i dont know how to install it..
[15:06] <sacarlson> adminewb: you can think about it all day or you can just go try it.
[15:06] <Pici> ta_bu_shi_da_yu: Actually, it looks like its working fine, but you need to make sure that the urls in your sources.list look like http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/ubuntu/archive/ (note the /pub/ in there)
[15:06] <bhest> anyone has a clue?
[15:06] <xektrum> sipior, so I suppose that adding pae should do the work for desktop right?, anyway thanks
[15:06] <ta_bu_shi_da_yu> Pici
[15:06] <KE1HA> Crankygeek01: http://webchat.freenode.net/
[15:06] <ta_bu_shi_da_yu> let me check
[15:07] <mbroeker> thedudester, start eclipse, click help->Install New Software...
[15:07] <ta_bu_shi_da_yu> it's a bit odd... I didn't modify that file directory
[15:07] <ta_bu_shi_da_yu> directly
[15:07] <ta_bu_shi_da_yu> that's the one supplied by canonical...
[15:07] <sipior> xektrum: sure, you can install the server kernel (or roll your own)
[15:08] <xektrum> ok thank  you, gonna try it
[15:08] <bhest> Hi, im trying to install teamspeak3 server on my Ubuntu machine. But im lacking som basic insight in how to start the server. Im using the following command to start it: user@server:~$ sudo start-stop-daemon --chuid teamspeak --chdir /opt/tss2_rc2 --start --exec /opt/tss2_rc2/server_linux But it says it cannot find the file oddly enough
[15:08] <woble> I would like to make a seperate home partition, how much space should i reserve for the OS?
[15:08] <bhest> ./whine
[15:09] <lubuser> hello, a dist-upgrade solved a bug for me
[15:09] <NET||abuse> ok, so i have horrible wifi card issues.. somethign to do with the policy setting for the hardware switch for the internal wifi card. network-manager applet shows the wifi as being off when on, and on when off..
[15:09] <KE1HA> woble:  Ubuntu base min I'd say 6Gb, 15-20GB will give you plenty of headroom.
[15:09] <lubuser> how do i change my text color in XChat?
[15:09] <woble> KE1HA its a small notebook disc, so will go for ~8 then.
[15:09] <NET||abuse> the only way i've found to reset this is to flip the wifi off,  shutdown the laptop, reset the switch to on and reboot,, and even then that seems to only be working after a few tries.
[15:09] <diogo_79> hi
[15:10] <NET||abuse> so i want to know is there a fix for this?
[15:10] <KE1HA> woble:  10Gb just to be safe.
[15:10] <NET||abuse> is this a known bug?
[15:10] <woble> KE1HA alright, guess that will do as well :)
[15:10] <lubuser> test
[15:10] <lubuser> didn't owkr
[15:10] <diogo_79> it is possible in ubuntu when run a command in the terminal window like "rdesktop" this program executes and then the window of the terminal closes?
[15:10] <AnxiousNut> what should i do, running mysql is giving me this error: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[15:10] <bhest> i wanna start my server :~(
[15:11] <lubuser> can anyone help me change the text color in xchat?  this is hard to follow
[15:11] <KE1HA> woble:  all depends on how many additional apps you plan on installing, but my workstation here, is sitting at 6GB and Iv'e allot of things installed.
[15:11] <bhest> Can anyone please help me? i have stated my question but no answer yet. would be really appreciated guys
[15:12] <lubuser> test
[15:12] <jatt> !test
[15:12] <lubuser> test
[15:12] <bhest> please
[15:12] <sam_00908> - booting from USB aint working on my macbook.  Any ideas???  pressing ALT key dont show up my USB :(
[15:12] <sipior> bhest: custom is to restate your question every 10-15 minutes or so; new people coming into the channel all the time...
[15:12] <bhest> Hi, im trying to install teamspeak3 server on my Ubuntu machine. But im lacking som basic insight in how to start the server. Im using the following command to start it: user@server:~$ sudo start-stop-daemon --chuid teamspeak --chdir /opt/tss2_rc2 --start --exec /opt/tss2_rc2/server_linux But it says it cannot find the file oddly enough
[15:12] <lubuser> is there an XChat channel?
[15:13] <bhest> sipior: just did :)
[15:13] <jMyles> I'm trying to forward a port to a specific computer on my network.  If I run iptables -t nat -vnL, it shows some packets (16 of them, seemingly about one for every time I try) but it doesn't seem to do anything.
[15:13] <sometux> lubuser, go to menu Settings > Preferences > Colors
[15:13] <sipior> bhest: you have an interesting notion of "10 minutes"
[15:13] <bhest> sipior: i just want to know how to start the server in a different way, i have some vauge memory about the sudo command
[15:13] <oliver_> Is it necessary to use a firewall in ubuntu? Or have it a firewall out of box?
[15:13] <lubuser> I want the color that goes into the channel changed, though?
[15:13] <erUSUL> !fw | oliver_
[15:13] <erUSUL> !firewallw | oliver_
[15:14] <erUSUL> !firewall | oliver_
[15:14] <woble> bhest, be sure permissions are set right, and the file does exist (look for it manually). Thats where i would start, but no experience with teamspeak servers
[15:14] <bhest> sipior: its a really basic mistake i have done i think
[15:14] <oliver_> erUSUL: thx :)
[15:14] <bhest> woble: i just set the permissions, im following a guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=236834 and i can see the file just before my eyes
[15:15] <Ichim> anyone has an idea why booting from live cd is stopping after ureadahead-other main process (1055) terminated with status 4; ureadahead-other main process (1056) terminated with status 4; *setting sensor limits? It is working fine, when i do a restart with windows xp...  would be nice if someone is having an idea
[15:16] <Ichim> or maybe i should open a thread in a forum? I tried setting BIOS to default and many boot parameter...
[15:16] <bhest> woble: isnt there another way to start a program? is : sudo [path]/filename the only way?
[15:16] <Crankygeek01> Anyone familiar with eGroupware setup?
[15:17] <melengo> d
[15:17] <melengo> can you all help my ebout ubuntu server
[15:18] <bhest> no
[15:18] <mbroeker> Crankygeek01, can you login to your egroupware site?
[15:18] <Crankygeek01> No
[15:18] <zzzed_> !ask | melengo
[15:19] <Crankygeek01> I am getting an rrror saying that the tables are not built, even though they are
[15:19] <bhest> sudo: unable to execute opt/teamspeak3-server_linux-x86/ts3server_linux_x86: No such file or directory
[15:19] <bhest> im getting insane
[15:20] <sipior> bhest: did you not mean to prefix that path with a slash?
[15:20] <geirha> bhest: sudo filename  works if PATH contains the [path] (in your [path]/filename example)
[15:20] <new2Ubuntu> hi all!
[15:20] <bhest> sipior:  sudo: unable to execute /opt/teamspeak3-server_linux-x86/ts3server_linux_x86: No such file or directory
[15:21] <bhest> now its correct
[15:21] <bhest> geirha: syntax error in brain. what you mean?
[15:21] <sipior> bhest: so where is the thing actually installed?
[15:21] <bhest> sipior: in /opt
[15:21] <Crankygeek01> Mbroeker: I have configured all the initial steps. I pass all the checks, but when I load up the site  I get the tables are not built error.
[15:22] <Ichim> anyone got an idea why ubuntu live cd is only booting after restarting pc with xp? it hangs on setting sensor limits, which is after ureadahead- other main process (1056) terminated with status 4
[15:22] <sipior> bhest: you're not going to make be beg for the full path, are you?
[15:22] <bhest> sipior: or ~/opt
[15:22] <zfe> hello, is there any way to change the behaviour of notification windows in ubuntu 10.04?
[15:22] <geirha> bhest: You need to provide the whole pathname, including any extensions it may have
[15:22] <bhest> sipior: or ~/opt/teamspeak3-server_linux-x86
[15:22] <new2Ubuntu> Ichim, even after sometime its not able to boot ?
[15:22] <sipior> bhest: bug difference between /opt and ~/opt...
[15:22] <bhest> sipior: well i dont know im a newb
[15:23] <bhest> geirha: i think i have
[15:23] <geirha> bhest: To get a handle on how the shell works, I recommend reading http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
[15:23] <new2Ubuntu> Ichim, I've seen something similar many a times, and after some times it boots up
[15:23] <sipior> bhest: so "sudo ~/opt/teamspeak3-server_linux-x86" does nothing?
[15:23] <lubuser> how do you change the colors for the output:
[15:23] <lubuser> ?
[15:23] <zzzed_> bhest, dpkg -L <teamspeak-package-name>
[15:23] <bhest> sipior: lemme check
[15:23] <new2Ubuntu> lubuser, output fo what ?
[15:23] <katspaugh> zfe: Look for 'notification-osd' settings in gconf-editor.
[15:23] <lubuser> new2Ubuntu:  output to the channel
[15:24] <mbroeker> Crankygeek01, recreate the tables
[15:24] <Ichim> new2ubuntu: i can try booting up many times, but even if it is working, i would like to fix, because i dont like to boot 10 times a day ;D
[15:24] <lubuser> the color of the output for me is dark grey....hard to follow
[15:24] <bhest> sipior: sudo: /home/dayman/opt/teamspeak3-server_linux-x86: command not found
[15:24] <sipior> bhest: you know, there's a "teamspeak-client" and "teamspeak-server" package in the repositories...
[15:24] <LittleLegion> Does anyone know how I can install WINE in an offline laptop?
[15:24] <new2Ubuntu> Ichim, seems some problem with your ureadahead ...try disabling that thaing
[15:24] <mbroeker> Crankygeek01, i am using a postgres db. i know how it works with it. but i have no clue about mysql
[15:24] <bhest> sipior: yes i downloaded the server
[15:25] <bhest> zzzed_:  is that a way to unzip it? because i already have done that
[15:25] <geirha> bhest: Another approach.  Type sudo  followed by a space, but do not hit enter.  Find the file you want to execute in the file browser and drag it over to terminal window.
[15:25] <sipior> bhest: but not the ubuntu package, obviously
[15:25] <LittleLegion> Does anyone know how I can install WINE in an offline laptop?
[15:25] <Crankygeek01> Mbroeker: I am also using postgres
[15:25] <Ichim> new2ubuntu: is it possible to disable on live cd?
[15:25] <geirha> bhest: When you drop it there, it will put in the full path to the file.
[15:25] <zzzed_> bhest, no, that'll show you where all the files are located
[15:25] <bhest> geirha: i dont have x
[15:26] <mbroeker> Crankygeek01, sudo su - postgres; dropdb postgres; createdb --owner egroupware egroupware
[15:26] <LittleLegion> Does anyone know how I can install WINE in an offline laptop?
[15:26] <bhest> zzzed_: ok i already know where they are tough
[15:26] <new2Ubuntu> Ichim, i guess you cant do that with livecd
[15:26] <bhest> sipior: is there a ubuntu package for it?
[15:26] <sipior> bhest: i just said that...
[15:27] <new2Ubuntu> LittleLegion, get the .deb and install it where ever u like
[15:27] <mbroeker> Crankygeek01, i hope that you have an update of your database or all egroupware settings and users are gone
[15:27] <bhest> sipior: whats the command for installing it again?
[15:27] <bhest> sipior: apt-get install teamspeak3server?
[15:27] <sipior> bhest: try "sudo apt-get install teamspeak-client teamspeak-server"
[15:27] <Ichim> new2ubuntu: I found something interesting http://bit.ly/bcvH45
[15:28] <Ichim> new2ubuntu: not the same process, but same error
[15:28] <LittleLegion> new2Ubuntu --- .deb file? is that like .exe in windows but for linux?
[15:28] <Crankygeek01> Mbroeker: this is a fresh install
[15:28] <bhest> sipior: nice it works, but i didnt bother with the client tough
[15:28] <new2Ubuntu> Ichim, from the heading it sounds interesting.... let me go through that tuto
[15:28] <sipior> bhest: yep, just intall what you need
[15:29] <mbroeker> Crankygeek01, very good. recreate the database and go to the setup page again
[15:29] <Ichim> new2ubuntu: yes would be nice :)
[15:29] <wad> My son just bought an eee PC. Windows 7 on it will be dog slow, so I've recommended Linux in dual-boot. Ubuntu is my distro of choice... google has shown me several options. Any of you guys have experience with this?
[15:29] <bhest> sipior: do you know how to write to start it as a daemon next?
[15:29] <new2Ubuntu> LittleLegion, yes quite similar....
[15:29] <sipior> bhest: i imagine it is already so configured after installation.
[15:29] <bhest> sipior: supernice, thanks
[15:30] <new2Ubuntu> LittleLegion, give me a sec...let me google out ... if I find any .deb file...will let u know
[15:30] <katspaugh> wad: What version of EEE is it?
[15:30] <new2Ubuntu> LittleLegion, btw, which version of ubuntu u are in
[15:30] <bastidrazor> !offline
[15:30] <wad> katspaugh, let me find out, 1 sec.
[15:30] <wizzle> how to chance my IP?
[15:30] <Ichim> new2ubuntu: btw i can't use keyboard, when this happened. I can't even switch leds for bumblock or caps on/off
[15:30] <Crankygeek01> Mbroeker: will I need to setup any permissions?
[15:30] <jrib> wizzle: why?
[15:31] <wad> katspaugh, http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00322PYVI/ref=oss_product
[15:32] <mbroeker> Crankygeek01, recreate the database and go to http://localhost/egroupware/setup/
[15:32] <Crankygeek01> Ok, thanks, I will give that a shot
[15:32] <katspaugh> wad: That one I don't know. Anyway you'd better try a live USB first.
[15:32] <new2Ubuntu> LittleLegion, this might be useful for u : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=914685
[15:32] <darnold> I've set update-alternatives x-terminal-emulator to urxvt and set Preferred Applications terminal setting to rxvt-unicode. I've confirmed the desktop/applications/terminal gconf setting is correct, but everything in gnome still opens gnome-terminal. where else could I see where gnome-terminal is being set?
[15:33] <wad> katspaugh, okay.
[15:33] <jrib> darnold: what is "everything in gnome"?
[15:33] <new2Ubuntu> LittleLegion, this  as well: http://www.winehq.org/download/deb
[15:33] <darnold> ssh-menu, terminal from ubuntu menu, from gnome-do
[15:34] <darnold> haven't checked nautilus yet
[15:34] <Kaolc> Hey, I bought an Ubuntu VPS and I've only got shell access via Putty atm. I'd like to connect to it with some sort of vnc/rdp connection with a GUI just like if I was connecting to a windows VPS. Can anyone help me get it all set up and running?
[15:34] <mandara> !log
[15:34] <jrib> darnold: well in the gnome menu, I imagine that just calls gnome-terminal directly.  Check
[15:34] <new2Ubuntu> Ichim, oops ... are u on 10.4 Ubuntu ?
[15:34] <Ichim> yes, lucid lynx
[15:34] <darnold> hmm that would be ok. I wonder if ssh-menu is also hard-coded
[15:34] <dobak> hello
[15:35] <sidolin> hey everyone
[15:35] <blecked> hi
[15:36] <sidolin> is there a active mactel support channel?
[15:36] <sidolin> or dev channel
[15:36] <Ichim> new2ubuntu yes lucid lynx
[15:36] <new2Ubuntu> sidolin, never heard of that....
[15:36] <wad> katspaugh, ah, there is a netbook edition of Ubuntu 10.04! I'll start with that. :)
[15:37] <new2Ubuntu> Ichim, okey....you installed from 10.4 liveCD, or upgraded from some earlier versions ?
[15:37] <jrib> sidolin: why?  mactel is more active in the forums afaik
[15:38] <amit> hi..can anybody help me with updating rhythmbox....
[15:38] <jrib> !details | amit
[15:38] <Ichim> new2ubuntu: I didn't have it on my pc now, but i had installed linux mint few weeks ago and it had the same error
[15:38] <sidolin> i need someone to test an improved backlight module
[15:39] <wastl> join #ubuntu-server
[15:39] <sidolin> with smooth transitions :)
[15:39] <Ichim> new2ubuntu and now i want to fix the problem, to be able to boot with livecd and then i wanna install it
[15:39] <srm> hi. My laptop had a hard-reset and now the nm-applet is missing when logging into the gnome-desktop, and I'm not getting a connection to my WLAN. Manually starting nm-applet brings app the icon in the notification area and my wlan connection works. What do I have to tweak/look into to make sure, nm-applet is loaded/running at login-time
[15:39] <thedudester> how do i configure apache for a different directory?
[15:39] <amit> hi..can anybody help me with updating rhythmbox....
[15:40] <amit> sorry will post again
[15:40] <jrib> thedudester: #httpd
[15:40] <jrib> amit: give us details...
[15:40] <new2Ubuntu> Ichim, I had some similar issues and after disabling ureadahead it worked fine...I dont see any issues now
[15:41] <amit> my repository shows rhytmbox installed as 0.12.5 and the latest as 0.12.5, but i read that there has been updates for rhythmbox......i m running karmic
[15:41] <cmpsalvestrini> !whois CARABOBO
[15:41] <Pici> !latest | amit
[15:41] <jrib> !info rhythmbox karmic
[15:42] <jrib> amit: 0.12.5-0ubuntu5.2 is the latest version in the karmic repositories
[15:42] <Ichim> new2ubuntu: and it is impossible to change something in the .iso to get a live cd with disabled ureadahead?
[15:42] <wizzle> how to chance my own IP ?
[15:42] <wizzle> !IP
[15:42] <cmpsalvestrini> #whois CARABOBO
[15:42] <amit> i m new to ubuntu...how to seach for a stable backport?
[15:42] <jrib> wizzle: I asked before... why?
[15:42] <Pici> cmpsalvestrini: /whois nick
[15:42] <jrib> !backport | amit
[15:43] <amit> ok..thanks will check it out......thanx very much
[15:43] <tasslehoff> my ubuntu seems to have lost the applet that lets me view available wireless networks. any ideas how I can get it back?
[15:43] <sipior> wizzle: generally, you can use /sbin/ifconfig or /sbin/ip to change the interface ip address . or play around with the network manager applet.
[15:44] <srm> found an invalid exec entry in nm-applet.desktop. Rewrote it and will test now.
[15:44] <Kaolc> Hey, I bought an Ubuntu VPS and I've only got shell access via Putty atm. I'd like to connect to it with some sort of vnc/rdp connection with a GUI just like if I was connecting to a windows VPS. Can anyone help me get it all set up and running?
[15:44] <aetaric> Kaolc: it might not have a X server...
[15:44] <jrib> !vnc | Kaolc
[15:44] <Kaolc> jrib, I already read it..
[15:45] <jrib> Kaolc: and?...
[15:45] <Kaolc> aetaric, what's an X server?
[15:45] <aetaric> !X
[15:45] <Kaolc> jrib, apparently the port isn't open or something
[15:45] <new2Ubuntu> Ichim, I think that would be too complex to do ...btw, I forgot to mention that it was my HDD-installed ubuntu which was creating issues... and I guess ureadahead with liveCD doesnot make sense...because it tries preloading stuffs from HDD only....and liveCD storage is not persisten....
[15:45] <Kaolc> so I gotta tunnel it over some other port
[15:45] <jrib> Kaolc: "or something"?
[15:45] <Kaolc> yeah or something
[15:45] <jrib> Kaolc: ok...
[15:45] <new2Ubuntu> Ichim, I guess you are not talking about something like persistent USB install, right ?? just to make myself understand it cleraly
[15:46] <tasslehoff> I have the notification area, but no network icon
[15:46] <wizzle> do anyone know how to change their own IP ?
[15:46] <Kaolc> So I should find out how to set up a vnc server and connect to it, yeah?
[15:46] <jrib> wizzle: you can't be helped if you ignore people's replies
[15:46] <aetaric> wizzle: a better question would be, do you want to change your public ip, or your private ip?
[15:46] <sipior> wizzle: was there something about my answer that you'd like to clarify?
[15:46] <yukis> I copy a directory to another partition, then destroyed the old one (encrypted, ntfs) . but I found there are no directory but a file, how to extract it, and why?
[15:47] <Ichim> new2ubuntu, no I wan't to use the normal live cd, but I am getting same error when using a real install
[15:47] <Kaolc> How can I run vnc server if only port 22 is open?
[15:47] <wizzle> my private ip. aetaric
[15:47] <adminewb> sacarlson, tried removing the PCIe expansion display card, the one that was disabled: having multiple users with desktop sessions logged in still locks up on logout/switch; I'm going to have to leave off this inquiry for several days, just providing one last data point here
[15:47] <aetaric> wizzle: it is in networkmanager
[15:48] <Ichim> new2ubuntu, you don't have an idea why it is working fine when i did a restart with using xp?
[15:48] <glaucous> is it possible to increase the amount of RAM Linux uses for disk cache?
[15:48] <jrib> Kaolc: if you read the link ubottu tells you, you will see how to tunnel vnc over ssh...
[15:48] <new2Ubuntu> Ichim, okey.... what u mean by "restart using XP" ... u are running ubuntu off liveCD, right?
[15:49] <wizzle> just it's simple like that aetaric ?
[15:49] <Ichim> not now, but i wan't to
[15:49] <aetaric> wizzle: yes. just assign a static ip.
[15:49] <wizzle> ok, thanks. aetaric
[15:50] <Ichim> new2ubuntu: I mean the feature in xp which shuts down windows and then reboot the pc
[15:50] <adminewb> sacarlson, one other minor item... while system is totally locked up, the disk activity can still be flashing on occasion
[15:50] <rantic> Hi everyone, I just installed Ubuntu 10.04.1 and I'm having the exact same issue when my computer boots from when I tried 10.04 -- My computer boots and then hangs at a black screen with a blinking cursor for about 15 seconds then flashes an Unknown Controller message and continues to boot up. Any ideas?
[15:50] <PsyNet> Would anyone care to help me with this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1563751
[15:50] <yukis> I copied a directory to another partition, then destroyed the old one (encrypted, ntfs) . but I found there are no directory but a file, how to extract it, and why?
[15:50] <jrib> !here | PsyNet
[15:50] <rantic> I attempted to google the issue and what the people in this thread experience sounds just like my problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1471138.html
[15:51] <jrib> PsyNet: it's not even an ubuntu question... use ##php
[15:52] <new2Ubuntu> Ichim, okey.... dont know whats the issue....
[15:52] <Crankygeek01> Mbroeker: Can you repost instructions to creat the database in postgres, I must have copied it wrong.
[15:53] <Ichim> new2ubuntu: you know which things are different to normal boot, when i am using this "warmboot"?
[15:53] <new2Ubuntu> Ichim, did you ever try the "disbling the ureadahead thing" trick
[15:53] <mbroeker> Crankygeek01, sudo su - postgres # switch to user postgres
[15:53] <rantic> Anyone? :(
[15:54] <mbroeker> Crankygeek01, drop the egroupware db, not the postgres db
[15:54] <jrib> !helpme | rantic
[15:54] <rantic> !repeat
[15:54] <mbroeker> Crankygeek01, createdb --owner egroupware egroupware
[15:54] <Ichim> new2ubuntu: no, i haven't, but i have to install ubuntu before i can try?
[15:55] <jimcooncat> I would like to have any new wireless connections to be "Available to all users". Is there an option or conffile I could set?
[15:55] <Crankygeek01> Mbroeker: ok, I did    dropdb postgres;    what should I do to fix that now?
[15:56] <mbroeker> Crankygeek01, createdb --owner postgres postgres
[15:56] <lxer> hi
[15:56] <Crankygeek01> Ok, then try again
[15:56] <lxer> how can i install gdm theme?
[15:56] <drew_volpe> Someone sent me a .sitx file.   Anyone know a good way to open it ?
[15:56] <mbroeker> Crankygeek01, yes
[15:57] <new2Ubuntu> Ichim, I guess not installing jsut because you had similar issues with Mint, is not a good choice...  and unless and until u install it on disk u'll never know whats the actual issue... there are always poeple out there to help you out fixing such issues... so my suggestion is you just go ahead and installl...and if you face any issues... lets the community people know about ti
[15:57] <sipior> drew_volpe: that's a Stuffit Expander extension, isn't it?
[15:58] <drew_volpe> sipior: it is.  Stuffit has a version for linux but it apparently doesn't support .sitx (only .sit).
[15:58] <adminewb> sacarlson, going ahead with testing whether the LiveCD will lock system up in the same way
[15:58] <rantic> I just installed Ubuntu 10.04.1 and I'm experiencing the same issue when my computer boots from when I tried 10.04 -- My computer boots and then hangs at a black screen with a blinking cursor for about 15 seconds then flashes an Unknown Controller message and continues boot up. Any ideas? This thread sounds exactly like my problem (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1471138)
[15:59] <sipior> drew_volpe: yay closed software :-) might want to borrow a mac for a few minutes, expand it there. or yell at the person who sent you the file.
[15:59] <gnulinux> 大家晚上好啊！
[15:59] <Pici> !zh | gnulinux
[16:00] <Ichim> new2ubuntu: maybe you are right... i think if i am having time on weekend, i'll try to get help after installing on disk
[16:00] <acegiak> so why did ubuntu start shipping with empathy > pidgin?
[16:01] <Ichim> new2ubuntu: you think using an older kernel maybe will work?
[16:01] <drew_volpe> sipior:  yeh, I yelled.  I'm just amazed there isn't a some utility on linux by now.
[16:01] <xiven> A little help please
[16:01] <new2Ubuntu> Ichim, I think that would be better...
[16:01] <mich2000> is there a way to upgrade from one ubuntu version to another without reinstalling the system?
[16:01] <drew_volpe> or rather that in 2010 a company would still be maintaining a properietary zip format.
[16:02] <new2Ubuntu> Ichim, if its something to do with your h/w then I would recommend using the latest kernel...that way you are sure that it has support for all the latest h/w technologies...
[16:02] <jrib> !upgrade | mich2000
[16:02] <mich2000> thanks!
[16:03] <xiven> Toshiba Satellite A205-S2908, Ubuntu Karmic installed using built-in Wubi, NDISWrapper used to install driver for LinkSys USB Wireless "Pen Drive".  It technically connects, but nothing but can reached (or it continually asks for network password)
[16:03] <runge> Hi, I wonder if you peps have any tips on software like plesk or webmin that I could install on my ubuntu 10.04. it seems that webmin is not supported out of the box due to some package issue.
[16:03] <adminewb> rantic, have you tried your question in a grub channel?
[16:03] <jrib> !ebox | runge
[16:03] <runge> lovely thanks jrib
[16:04] <rantic> adminewb: Unfortunately this is my first experience with Ubuntu, I'm not sure if it's a grub issue or not ... I have managed to find 4-5 other threads with the same issue but noone seems to know the fix or has posted one.
[16:04] <rantic> adminewb: I guess it won't hurt to ask though!
[16:04] <adminewb> rantic, if I understand correctly your issue arises during grub's control, is that not so?
[16:05] <rantic> adminewb: If grub is in control after I've chosen which operating system to boot and before the Login screen appears then yes.
[16:06] <Ichim> new2ubuntu: my hardware isn't that new... maybe 2/3 years. I thought of that because the problem seems to appear in luvid lynx only?
[16:06] <adminewb> rantic, grub loads up your selected kernel pretty much instantly when you choose an option, so I'd guess not... any long delays are likely not attributed to grub itself but the kernel it loads
[16:07] <new2Ubuntu> Ichim, in that case, may be old kernels would work...but still for a decent amount of time all are backward compatible...that means they are going to work pretty well even with the old h/ws
[16:07] <xiven> How do I find out the currently installed driver for a wireless network adapter (USB)?
[16:07] <adminewb> rantic, you might have better luck trying a channel where kernel experts hang out... those who can tell what all those console log messages mean
[16:08] <Crankygeek01> Mbroeker: I created the database again- I am getting the same error, do I need to restart the apache server, or postgres?
[16:08] <rantic> adminewb: Most of the people in that forum thread believe it's trying to load the memory card reader and eventually fails. Which actually makes sense because I noticed everyone with the issue was using a laptop including me.
[16:08] <mbroeker> Crankygeek01, normally not: can you post a picture of your error message?
[16:08] <Ichim> new2ubuntu: ok thank you very much... I thing i gonna try on weekend
[16:09] <Ichim> bye
[16:09] <new2Ubuntu> Ichim, you are welcome dude !
[16:09] <new2Ubuntu> Ichim, bye
[16:09] <Crankygeek01> Mbrorker: http://www.intellitechgroup.com/egroupware
[16:09] <adminewb> rantic, wouldn't know myself how to reach kernel experts reliably: such people are in high demand and have to put barriers around themselves to keep from drowning in fluff
[16:10] <mbroeker> Crankygeek01, ok: now follow the link and setup the databases
[16:10] <Crankygeek01> I did, all things have a green checkmark now
[16:11] <Kaolc> Hey, I bought an Ubuntu VPS and I've only got shell access via Putty atm. I'd like to connect to it with some sort of vnc/rdp connection with a GUI just like if I was connecting to a windows VPS. Can anyone help me get it all set up and running?
[16:12] <jrib> Kaolc: answer hasn't changed since last time you asked...
[16:12] <Crankygeek01> Mbroeker: everything is now green- but still get that same error
[16:12] <Kaolc> well !vnc doesn't help me much
[16:12] <jrib> Kaolc: why not?
[16:12] <mbroeker> Crankygeek01, now, install the databases
[16:12] <Kaolc> I further asked you, what if I've only got port 22 open?
[16:12] <jrib> Kaolc: I answered you
[16:12] <Kaolc> you did?
[16:12] <jrib> !who | Kaolc
[16:12] <yukis> I copied a directory to another partition, then destroyed the old one (encrypted, ntfs) . but I found there are no directory but a file, how to extract it, and why?
[16:12] <jrib> Kaolc: yes.  I told you that if you would read the link, it tells you how to vnc over ssh
[16:13] <edbian> Kaolc, Try X forwarding.  ssh -X user@host.  Then when you start a graphical app it loads on the client side.  It assumes you have a working X server on the client.
[16:13] <gery> good night all
[16:13] <Kaolc> Hmm thanks edbian
[16:13] <Kaolc> Will try googling for x server I guess
[16:13] <jrib> ...
[16:13] <mbroeker> Crankygeek01, from step 1 to 6, everything is green?
[16:13] <Kaolc> jrib, I TRIED. Didn't work out.
[16:13] <Crankygeek01> Mbroeker: what do you mean- instal the databases?
[16:13] <edbian> Kaolc, Yep.
[16:13] <adminewb> !vnc
[16:14] <edbian> Kaolc, What is the client?  Windows XP ?
[16:14] <jrib> Kaolc: what didn't work exactly?
[16:14] <Kaolc> Vista.
[16:14] <Crankygeek01> mbroeker: everything is green
[16:14] <gery> can help me???/
[16:14] <edbian> Kaolc, xming  is a good windows based x server
[16:14] <edbian> gery, Yeah probably.  What is your problem?
[16:15] <Kaolc> jrib, I'm not sure what didn't work out. I followed the tutorial and well, messed up somehow. I'll try xming then
[16:15] <xiven> Is xming for running within cygwin or for providing remote gui?
[16:15] <Madwill> hello
[16:15] <gery> why my monitor not detected?
[16:15] <Madwill> i did man ftp and now i dont know how to get out of there
[16:15] <smallfoot-> how can ubuntu have firefox 3.6.9, when latest version on firefox website is 3.6.8 ?
[16:15] <edbian> xiven, xming is an X server.  It does not run inside cygwin
[16:15] <Madwill> how do i get out please
[16:16] <edbian> Madwill, q
[16:16] <zira_p>  hi all!
[16:16] <Madwill> thx
[16:16] <xiven> typing 'logout' without the quotes should exit ftp
[16:16] <edbian> gery, Was it connected while you booted the computer?
[16:16] <edbian> xiven, He is in the man page.
[16:16] <edbian> Madwill, no problem
[16:17] <gery> my notebook is axiio neon mnc 915c
[16:17] <Kaolc> okay, so I logged into the VPS via PuTTy. Now what exactly?
[16:17] <Kaolc> apt-get install xserver? something like that?
[16:17] <edbian> Kaolc, Is this ubuntu server edition?
[16:17] <Madwill> someone really out of his mind asked me to set-up a command line ubuntu server via ssh
[16:17] <Kaolc> edbian, I don't know. I'm not experienced.
[16:17]  * Madwill is listening to kaolc question
[16:18] <edbian> Kaolc, Did you install the operating system?
[16:18] <Kaolc> No
[16:18] <Kaolc> I purchased access to the server, it's a VPS
[16:18] <edbian> Kaolc, I have to use the restroom.  I would be happy to help but I will be back in 2 minutes :)
[16:18] <Kaolc> Thanks man (: Not in a hurry
[16:18] <Madwill> kaolc what are you trying to do
[16:18] <Madwill> setup a server remotly via ssh
[16:18] <zira_p> can we use with all my ubuntu network with http://www.i2p2.de/ ? What i have to do, if i want to use all my network with i2p protocol ? or i have to integrated all softwares (firefox, chrome, pidgin...) to ip2 protocol by one by ?
[16:19] <Kaolc> Well I'm trying to get something installed on my ubuntu server so I can connect to it remotely from Windows and have a nice GUI
[16:19] <Kaolc> like VNC or something
[16:19] <Madwill> oh
[16:19] <Madwill> in my case its a command line, which will stays in command line
[16:19] <Madwill> fml
[16:19] <Kaolc> Why?
[16:19] <Madwill> clients choice
[16:19] <Kaolc> Oh. I don't know about mine
[16:20] <Kaolc> Is that the difference between ubuntu and ubuntu server edition btw?
[16:20] <Kaolc> commandline only?
[16:20] <Madwill> we have no expertise and they think i have i can do it
[16:20] <Madwill> pretty much and comes pre packaged with server stuffs
[16:20] <Kaolc> and if so, how do I check if mine is server edit?
[16:21] <Madwill> well if you take desktop remove gui and add server stuff you end up with the same thing
[16:21] <Crankygeek01> Mbroeker: Any other ideas?
[16:21] <jimcooncat> Kaolc: in times past, I don't know about now, the server kernel used a different scheduler than the desktop kernel
[16:21] <jrib> Kaolc: ubuntu server doesn't have X by default (and runs a -server kernel)
[16:21] <Madwill> so i guess you cannot know
[16:21] <jrib> Kaolc: check what kernel you are running
[16:21] <Madwill> oh
[16:21] <Kaolc> So is there some sort of easy command I can use?
[16:21] <mbroeker> Crankygeek01, psql -U egroupware; select * from egw_access_log;
[16:22] <jrib> Kaolc: uname -r
[16:22] <Kaolc> 2.6.18.. And I really should have remembered that command, lol
[16:22] <edbian> Kaolc, Does the name end in "server" ??
[16:22] <mbroeker> Crankygeek01, do you see the table?
[16:22] <Kaolc> 2.6.18-128.2.1.el5.028stab064.4
[16:22] <Kaolc> I don't think so, no
[16:23] <famicube64> Is there any way in Empathy to hide the "* has joined the room" kind of messages?
[16:23] <edbian> Kaolc, close your putty session
[16:23] <jrib> Kaolc: what ubuntu version is this? That's not a standard kernel
[16:23] <Kaolc> I have no idea. Edbian, why?
[16:23] <edbian> Kaolc, You're in luck I used to do this all the time.  I just don't have putty in front of me so I can help walk you through the settings.
[16:23] <jrib> !version | Kaolc
[16:23] <Kaolc> ah, so what do you want me to do?
[16:23] <edbian> Kaolc, We need to change the settings you use to connect.  Have you started xming?
[16:23] <jrib> Kaolc: address people you are responding to please
[16:23] <edbian> Kaolc, xming has a tray icon.
[16:24] <multi_io> how do I switch my eth0 connection from dhcp to a manual setup? In the "Edit Connections" dialog for eth0, the "Apply" button is always grayed out after I specified the manual settings and want to apply them.
[16:24] <Kaolc> edbian, I haven't even downloaded it
[16:24] <amit> m running karmic,rhythmbox 0.12.5 and emapthy 2.30.0.1.....current song played not being updated in empathy...selected the im plugin in rhythmbox
[16:24] <Crankygeek01> Mbroeker: one sec I have to run over there
[16:24] <zira_p> can we use with all my ubuntu network with http://www.i2p2.de/ ? What i have to do, if i want to use all my network with i2p protocol ? or i have to integrated all softwares (firefox, chrome, pidgin...) to ip2 protocol by one by ?
[16:24] <edbian> Kaolc, Well in order to forward the graphics you need it so start that download.
[16:24] <multi_io> is editing /etc/network/interfaces the recommended way?
[16:24] <Kaolc> edbian, do you want me to get teamviewer or something and help me if you have the time?
[16:24] <edbian> Kaolc, Additionally you should sudo apt-get install nautilus      on your server.
[16:24] <edbian> Kaolc, I don't even know what teamviewer is.  I do have time though.
[16:24] <mbroeker> Crankygeek01, when in doubt, install phppgadmin and check it online :)
[16:24] <meek> does anybody know what the difference between adobe-flashplugin and flashplugin-nonfree is/was?
[16:24] <preetam> can anybody tell me how to check my internet speed in ubuntu 10.04
[16:24] <Kaolc> teamviewer is a remote desktop controller sorta thing
[16:25] <Kaolc> But I guess you're not running windows.
[16:25] <edbian> Kaolc, nautilus is the linux equivalent of windows explorer.  It will depend on X server and install all things necessary for a guy.
[16:25] <edbian> gui.
[16:25] <edbian> Kaolc, We don't need teamviewer.
[16:25] <Kaolc> Ahhh.. I thought it was unbuntu-desktop
[16:25] <edbian> Kaolc, I'd rather you learned anyway :)
[16:25] <qwd> preetam: http://www.speedtest.net/ maybe?
[16:25] <Kaolc> sure, okay
[16:25] <famicube64> I like Speakeasy for those kinds of things
[16:25] <Pici> bullgard4: /var/cache/apt/ is the location of of the apt cache.
[16:26] <qwd> preetam: it uses flash though. You could also try just getting a popular torrent.
[16:26] <Kaolc> nautilus is already the newest version.
[16:26] <edbian> Kaolc, Then you have graphics installed.
[16:26] <edbian> Kaolc, Which is excellent
[16:26] <Kaolc> So I need to download xming on my windows computer now?
[16:26] <edbian> Kaolc, http://www.math.umn.edu/systems_guide/putty_xwin32.html  This lays out how to set putty very clearly.  You need xming running before this will work.
[16:27] <Kaolc> xming running on windows, correct? Also, server version for windows or what? I'm sorta confused about that one.
[16:27] <jca1981> my upgrade to lucid failed, getting this error when i do a dpkg --configure -a http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/485784/
[16:27] <edbian> Kaolc, run xming on windows yes.
[16:27] <ChrisBuchholz> Hey guys. Where can I get both the maverick radiance and ambiance themes? In the packages i have installed, and can find, i only get the ambiance theme. Any ideas?
[16:28] <Kaolc> edbian, so I download this correct? http://sourceforge.net/projects/xming/
[16:28] <edbian> Kaolc, It doesn't matter what the hell the client is.  Windows xp client or 7 server
[16:28] <kshatriya> running karmic,rhythm box 0.12.5,empathy 2.30, curretn song is not being updated in emapthy....im status is checked in plugin
[16:28] <Kaolc> okay
[16:28] <edbian> Kaolc, yes
[16:28] <edbian> Kaolc, That's the correct file
[16:29] <Pici> ChrisBuchholz: Maverick support in #ubuntu+1
[16:29] <bbeck> I was wondering if the new ubuntu desktop font has finally made it into public beta yet?  I'm very anxious to try it on a KDE desktop.
[16:29] <edbian> Kaolc, I like this tutorial even better than the other one.  It explains more and is closer to what you're doing.  http://www.cs.caltech.edu/courses/cs11/misc/xwindows.html
[16:29] <Kaolc> edbian, xming running, I got a tray icon
[16:29] <edbian> Kaolc, Good.  Follow that most recent guide.  Just make the settings in putty and connect.
[16:29] <Kaolc> ebdian, do you want me to read it or follow your advice?
[16:30] <Kaolc> edbian, okay
[16:30] <edbian> Kaolc, My advice and reading the tutorial should be the same.
[16:30] <Madwill> Wait a minute can i download Xming and have a interface for my remote server which will communicate via SSh with xmins
[16:30] <amit> hi all
[16:30] <jca1981> Need Help :  my upgrade to lucid failed, getting this error when i do a dpkg --configure -a http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/485784/
[16:31] <edbian> Kaolc, Once you have xming running and putty properly configured and connected to the server.  YOu should be able to run a command like "xclock" or "firefox" and it shows up on the client but is actually on the server.
[16:31] <edbian> Madwill, Yes
[16:31] <bbeck> BTW, I'm using the droid font, and it is wonderful.  (Just in case there are people that are unhappy with their fonts and are looking for something better.)
[16:31] <Madwill> Wow just wow, so does the server needs any aditionnal installation
[16:31] <ChrisBuchholz> Pici: thanks ;)
[16:31] <kshatriya> hi all m having problem...current song not getting updated in empathy status
[16:31] <hyxf> hello
[16:32] <edbian> Madwill, The server needs to have graphical apps and therefore an X server of it's own.  It is important to note that the server does not need to run it's X server at all.
[16:32] <edbian> Madwill, Most don't.
[16:32] <hyxf> I am coming
[16:32] <Kaolc> edbian, I gotta go for half an hour. I'll follow the link when I get back. Thank you for your help! (:
[16:32] <Madwill> fine edbian you sir are a gentleman and a scholar
[16:33] <edbian> Madwill, You can't run firefox and forward the gui over an X session if firefox isn't installed.  Installing firefox automatically installs all the things you need for a graphical environment.  But once it's installed you don't have to run any of that stuff on the server.
[16:33] <Kaolc> seconded. Cya.
[16:33] <kshatriya> hi all.....
[16:33] <kshatriya> are my quetiongs visible?
[16:33] <FlashDeluxe> @all: how can i backup my partitiontable which is currently running (i made changes to it, these changes will take effect by the next reboot and it don`t want them to take effect, so i want to correct my changes back)
[16:34] <ilovefairuz> !patience | kshatriya
[16:34] <kshatriya> ok.. i thought my updates are not visible....i thoght i did some mistaked in configuring IRC..
[16:34] <edbian> Madwill, ha ha thanks?
[16:35] <Madwill> ok, sounds fine, if my points is only to get some phpfiles, a couple of swfs and a big sql command i should not go for a x server integration right
[16:35] <edbian> Kaolc, Bye
[16:35] <adminewb> is there an easy way, like from a terminal, to reset my DVD drive controller? Brasero didn't like me canceling out of a long simulated blank disk rewrite and the controller now refuses to eject; can I do this without rebooting?
[16:35] <pksadiq> !hungry
[16:35] <ilovefairuz> FlashDeluxe: so are you trying to backup your partition or to roll back changes?
[16:35] <edbian> Madwill, Are your phpfiles in a sql server?  I'm a bit confused there.
[16:35] <edbian> Madwill, x forwarding won't let you transfer files.  You should use scp for that.
[16:35] <Madwill> haha
[16:36] <Madwill> ok
[16:36] <ilovefairuz> adminewb: it's just stimulated, kill the app
[16:36] <Madwill> i've got a vanilla server
[16:36] <FlashDeluxe> ilovefairuz: roll back changes :)
[16:36] <ilovefairuz> FlashDeluxe: what exactly did you change?
[16:36] <Madwill> which i need to fill with our application, everything is installed and i just need to put everything in place
[16:36] <adminewb> ilovefairuz, the app is dead already, I need to reset the controller please
[16:36] <FlashDeluxe> ilovefairuz: the partition ID
[16:36] <ilovefairuz> adminewb: try "reject" from the command line
[16:37] <ilovefairuz> FlashDeluxe: how did you change it? and do you still have the old ID?
[16:37] <ilovefairuz> adminewb: ** "eject"
[16:37] <adminewb> ilovefairuz, 'reject'ed at the shell, it says nothing but gives a new prompt... did it do anything?
[16:38] <adminewb> oh heh
[16:38] <ilovefairuz> sleepy spelling
[16:38] <adminewb> ilovefairuz as I mentioned, it won't eject
[16:38] <adminewb> ilovefairuz how can I reset the controller?
[16:38] <ilovefairuz> adminewb: yes, but any error messages?
[16:38] <adminewb> ilovefairuz no error message
[16:38] <FlashDeluxe> ilovefairuz: i have lvm running, so the ID has to be 8e, i installed a new hdd and tried to change it via fdisk, but unfourtunately the ID of a few existing disks changed to "e  W95 FAT16 (LBA)"
[16:39] <ilovefairuz> adminewb: sudo lsof | grep sr0
[16:40] <th0r> adminewb: try unmounting sr0 as root and then try eject again
[16:40] <ilovefairuz> FlashDeluxe: so why don't you run fdisk and change them back ?
[16:40] <adminewb> th0r, so sr0 is the first optical disk device
[16:40] <th0r> adminewb: should be...check what is mounted with 'mount'
[16:41] <FlashDeluxe> ilovefairuz: because it doenst work^^
[16:41] <adminewb> ilovefairuz, the grep sr0 part found no reference to that device
[16:41] <kodak> hello all
[16:41] <adminewb> no sr0 mounted, it appears; could .gvfs relate?
[16:41] <ilovefairuz> FlashDeluxe: what "doesn't work" ? changing the ID and saving it gives an error?
[16:42] <Crankygeek01> Mbroeker: I am getting an authentication error for the user egroupware
[16:42] <kodak> i have a grub2 question. I have dualboot atm, ubuntu as one and windows as the second, i would like to make windows the defualt boot. I have 10_linux pointing to correct linux kernel, and 11_windows for windows
[16:42] <FlashDeluxe> ilovefairuz: Ooops i`m such a f**** :D i thought that i first have to type in the number of the hex code and then the letter, but the number was the number of the drive -.-* :d damn^^
[16:43] <kodak> should i just change the 10_linux to 11_linux and 11_windows to 10_windows?
[16:43] <kodak> or do i need to rewrite some config files?
[16:43] <adminewb> th0r, since there's no optical device mount to all appearance, can't I just issue a low level PCI channel reset cmd somehow?
[16:44] <dongfeng> 发
[16:44] <adminewb> th0r, the physical eject button on the device isn't working
[16:44] <dongfeng> 有人在吗
[16:44] <ilovefairuz> adminewb: try: sudo wodim -eject
[16:44] <ilovefairuz> !cn | dongfeng
[16:44] <adminewb> ilovefairuz thanks
[16:44] <th0r> adminewb: try 'ls -l /dev/* | grep cd' and see if you can tell what /dev/cdrom is pointing to
[16:45] <dongfeng> china
[16:45] <ilovefairuz> dongfeng: write: /join  #ubuntu-cn
[16:45] <adminewb> th0r, yes /dev/cdrom points to sr0
[16:45] <dongfeng> ?
[16:45] <glib> does anyone know of an nxclient like nomachine for ubuntu (amd64)?
[16:45] <mbroeker> Crankygeek01, can i pm you?
[16:45] <adminewb> th0r, it's actually a DVD device if that matters
[16:45] <SPM_> nomachine client isn't working?
[16:45] <th0r> adminewb: and 'sudo eject /dev/cdrom' doesn't work?
[16:45] <dongfeng> i lovefairuz
[16:46] <dongfeng> hello
[16:46] <ilovefairuz> dongfeng: type:   /join  #ubuntu-cn
[16:46] <Crankygeek01> Mbroeker: please do
[16:46] <adminewb> th0r, no it doesn't eject
[16:46] <adminewb> th0r, the physical eject button on the drive doesn't work
[16:46] <dongfeng> i don't know
[16:47] <th0r> adminewb: you said you were working with brasero?
[16:47] <glib> SPM_, is there a 64bit version?
[16:47] <dongfeng> How old are you ?
[16:47] <ilovefairuz> dongfeng: 写: /join  #ubuntu-cn
[16:47] <SPM_> glib: yes
[16:47] <glib> huh.
[16:47] <glib> where would i get it?
[16:48] <adminewb> th0r, yes Brasero
[16:48] <th0r> adminewb: try 'ps ax | grep brasero
[16:48] <adminewb> th0r, killed it already
[16:48] <dongfeng> china
[16:48] <SPM_> glib: http://www.nomachine.com/download-client-linux.php
[16:48] <shylent> hm, so I've installed 10.04 instead of 9.04 and everything is kind of ok with pretty much *one* exception: my gnome-terminal is very choppy, - it takes quite some time for stuff I type to appear (and disappear)
[16:48] <th0r> ok...you killed all brasero processes?, not just close the window...actually check the process list and kill any remaining brasero process
[16:48] <shylent> is there any setting I can tweak or something?
[16:49] <ilovefairuz> adminewb: pastebin: ps aux
[16:49] <adminewb> th0r, ok brasero's GUI was shut down but it appears it still has a process running anyway
[16:49] <glib> SPM_, oh, now i feel stupid, i went to the website but didn't scroll down!
[16:49] <th0r> adminewb: right...kill any brasero process....'lill -9 <processnumber>
[16:49] <th0r> (s/lill/kill
[16:49] <ilovefairuz> adminewb: killall -KILL brasero
[16:50] <SPM_> glib: it sometimes happend :))
[16:50] <adminewb> th0r brasero process in a sleep state
[16:50] <adminewb> th0r roger that kill
[16:50] <smallfoot-> how can ubuntu have firefox 3.6.9, when latest version on firefox website is 3.6.8 ?
[16:51] <dongfeng> where are you from ?
[16:51] <adminewb> th0r, ok process killed, still can't eject
[16:51] <dongfeng> I'M china
[16:51] <th0r> adminewb: I thought sure that would do it
[16:51] <dongfeng> ..
[16:51] <dongfeng> who?
[16:52] <adminewb> th0r, afaict I still really need to reset that controller, preferably without rebooting
[16:52] <th0r> adminewb: I don't know of any way to do that...maybe someone else has an idea
[16:52] <dongfeng> 你们看得明白吗
[16:52] <dongfeng> 。。。
[16:53] <adminewb> ok this is enough hassle, time to reboot
[16:53] <dongfeng> 说话阿
[16:53] <FloodBot2> dongfeng: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:53] <ilovefairuz> !ops
[16:53] <guntbert> dongfeng: this channel is for ubuntu support only.  Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[16:53] <dongfeng> help
[16:54] <Pici> dongfeng: #ubuntu is englush only.  #ubuntu-cn for chinese.
[16:54] <Augustus> wow, big user list
[16:55] <joo> Hi guys. When I play hl2 and Gmod in WINE, all the video playback such as the conversations on monitors and also the reflections on water are tinted really really blue. I had this issue with videos before and i can't remember how i fixed it.
[16:55] <joo> Pretty sure it's not a WINE issue.
[16:55] <Pici> smallfoot-: Its a build of the 3.6.9 canindate.
[16:55] <Pici> smallfoot-: And thats only in maverick as well.
[16:55] <Augustus> So... I'm a Linux Virgin and I had a few questions, I'm thinking about switching from Win7 to a 300GB Portable HDD that runs Ubuntu... but I am not sure how to start
[16:56] <Araneidae> Augustus, what's a "HDD"?  A Hard Disk Drive (my best guess) doesn't run Linux, it merely can carry it...
[16:56] <edbian> Augustus, download a live CD :)
[16:56] <smallfoot-> Pici, ah ok thakns
[16:56] <ilovefairuz> !install | Augustus
[16:57] <edbian> Augustus, You can run linux entirely off a CD and try it out :)
[16:57] <Augustus> Araneidae: That's what I meant, my bad... been up since 3am and not feeling too spry at the moment
[16:57] <Araneidae> So are you thinking of dual booting onto the portable HDD?
[16:57] <erdnase> Augustus, try installing it in windows first, that's what I'm doing atm.
[16:57] <Leman_Russ> Augustus; come and talk to me in the other tab.  I will help you
[16:57] <edbian> erdnase, Wubi?  Blech :(
[16:57] <Augustus> Oh wow. haha lots of people lol.
[16:57] <Araneidae> Anyhow, lots of helpful suggestions flying by
[16:57] <ilovefairuz> Don't use Wubi!
[16:58] <erdnase> Why? o_o
[16:58] <ilovefairuz> erdnase: it doesn't play well with grub2
[16:58] <edbian> erdnase, It complicates things.  When you have a problem on wubi it is more difficult to solve.
[16:58] <Leman_Russ> Araneidae; what are you talking about?
[16:58] <edbian> erdnase, Many people when confronted with a problem on a wubi system usually see the solution as "oh get rid of wubi then it will work"
[16:59] <Araneidae> Leman_Russ, I was mostly responding to Augustus
[16:59] <erdnase> Lol, Ok. I'll get rid of this.
[16:59] <guntbert> !who | Araneidae
[16:59] <Araneidae> Huh.
[16:59] <erdnase> edbian, ilovefairuz , anyhow, is it ok if i only give ubuntu 10gb worth of hard disk space? :P
[16:59] <Leman_Russ> I was referring to the point that Araneidae made about not being able to run Ubuntu from an HDD
[17:00] <Leman_Russ> Where the hell else are you going to run it from??
[17:00] <ilovefairuz> edbian: you have no idea what you're talking about, wubi is known to NOT work with grub2 upgrades and leaves people locked out of their machine, unable to boot windows or ubuntu
[17:00] <Araneidae> Leman_Russ, my point is that the HDD is beside the point, what matters is the machine that's going to run it
[17:00] <edbian> erdnase, Yeah.  That system only takes up 2Gb when it's first installed.  Most people take up about 6 or 7Gb.  Then whatever files you personally put on there varies widely.
[17:01] <erdnase> edbian, will it affect it's performance?
[17:01] <edbian> ilovefairuz, That sucks.  I didn't claim to know anything about grub2 and wubi.
[17:01] <Leman_Russ> Araneidae; OK, you were being pedantic.  fair enough
[17:01] <edbian> erdnase, There isn't any performance gain unless you fill a drive to >98% capacity.
[17:01] <edbian> performance drain...
[17:01] <Araneidae> I suppose I was, sorry, didn't really mean to be
[17:01] <basman1> hi
[17:01] <erdnase> edbian, Thank you.
[17:02] <edbian> erdnase, Have fun!
[17:02] <ilovefairuz> edbian: then don't claim people just get rid of wubi because of ignorance of the true cause of their problems
[17:02] <erdnase> btw, is there a way for me to install ubuntu, without going through the whole ndiswrapper thing again?
[17:02] <ylmfos> 15555555555
[17:02] <ylmfos> 45555555555555
[17:02] <FloodBot2> ylmfos: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:02] <ylmfos> 6444444448848444444444444444444448
[17:03] <Araneidae> What's mode +z, keep seeing that.  Is it part of enabling -q?
[17:03] <ylmfos> #ubuntu ylmfos!*@
[17:03] <sipior> ylmfos: something we can help you with?
[17:03] <edbian> ilovefairuz, What I said isn't false.  wubi complicates issues with Ubuntu and people are reluctant to help with it.
[17:04] <Kaolc> edbian, I'm back. Will read the link you gave me and will let you know if I get in trouble if that's ok
[17:04] <erdnase> Guys. Is there a way for me to install ubuntu, and still retain the changes I've done in this wubi thing?
[17:04] <edbian> ilovefairuz, If you don't want me to talk about anything that I don't know in 100% entirety then I'm not sure I'd be able to talk about anything.
[17:04] <ilovefairuz> edbian: unless it gets proper quality assurance, the only reasonable advice for everyday users is to simply not use it
[17:05] <yukis> I copied a directory to another partition, then destroyed the old one (encrypted, ntfs) . but I found there are no directory but a file, how to extract it, and why?
[17:05] <Abhinav1> hey dhruvasagar :)
[17:05] <edbian> erdnase, Back up your entire home folder somewhere outside of wubi.  Like onto a USB key or something.  Then when you install ubuntu for you real you can put them back in place.  All user settings are stored in /home/userName  in hidden files/folders that start with a .
[17:05] <edbian> ilovefairuz, I agree.
[17:06] <ilovefairuz> edbian: i wasn't "attacking" you personally, i was only responding to your wubi comment, sorry if it sounded harsh
[17:06] <erdnase> edbian, Thank you so much. (Yay, no more ndiswrapper install thingy >_>)
[17:06] <edbian> ilovefairuz, O good to know :)  Do you mean that I shouldn't have suggested he get rid of it because that opens new problem?
[17:07] <edbian> erdnase, You might still need that ;)  That has no bearing on wubi
[17:07] <jimcooncat> erdnase: as edbian said. if you don't have a USB or writeable CD, at least copy those files to your Windows partition -- it will be easier than trying to dig back into where wubi stores its files
[17:08] <erdnase> edbian, jimcooncat, I just copied everything to a portable hard drive. I'm... good to go.
[17:08] <erdnase> See you guys later, bye. :P
[17:08] <matthatesspam> I'm having a problem with my wireless card. Could I get some help? :)
[17:08] <ilovefairuz> edbian: If it's already installed, then it's only a problem when it becomes a problem. But for new installs, I highly recommend against it.
[17:08] <edbian> erdnase, Bye
[17:09] <edbian> ilovefairuz, Ok.  We're on the same page :)
[17:09] <guntbert> ilovefairuz: may I PM you?
[17:09] <ilovefairuz> guntbert: yes
[17:09] <matthatesspam> I'm having a problem with my wireless card. Could I get some help? :)
[17:09] <edbian> guntbert, Not to gossip about me I hope! :P
[17:09] <edbian> matthatesspam, yeah.
[17:09] <erdnase> matthatesspam, what is it matt?
[17:09] <matthatesspam> edbian: Netbook remix won't recognize my wireless card.
[17:10] <edbian> matthatesspam, Does it show up in the output of sudo lspci  ??
[17:10] <matthatesspam> Desktop edition will, but I prefer the netbook remix.
[17:10] <matthatesspam> edbian: I'm rather new to linux, so what's that command?
[17:10] <edbian> matthatesspam, also, look at the end of the output of dmesg.  Do you see anything regarding your wireless card?
[17:10] <edbian> matthatesspam, sudo lspci
[17:10] <edbian> matthatesspam, dmesg
[17:10] <matthatesspam> I'm actually not in ubuntu now
[17:11] <Kaolc> ebidian, I can't get xming to work
[17:11] <Guardian_> Hola muy buenas tardes
[17:11] <matthatesspam> edbian: Should I log out and boot back into ubuntu?
[17:11] <guntbert> !es | Guardian_
[17:11] <Kaolc> ebidian, I followed the link you gave me, but when I use the command xeyes & it gives me "Error: Can't open display"
[17:12] <edbian> matthatesspam, Yeah.  To run those commands you need to be running Ubuntu :)
[17:12] <edbian> Kaolc, xming is running?
[17:12] <matthatesspam> edbian: All right. I'll be right back.
[17:12] <matthatesspam> :)
[17:12] <Bauldrick> how much slower should i expect my netbook to run if I output it to my TV 1028x* - when the normal resolution runs at 800x* with its screen?
[17:12] <Guardian_> Thankas
[17:12] <yukis> I copied a directory to another partition, then destroyed the old one (encrypted, ntfs) . but I found there are no directory but a file, how to extract it, and why?
[17:12] <Guardian_> thanks
[17:13] <Kaolc> edbian, yes xming is running, I have the tray icon
[17:13] <edbian> Kaolc, What settings did you do in putty?
[17:13] <edbian> Kaolc, I lost the link, can you give it to me so that I can see it again?
[17:13] <Kaolc> default settings, checked the x11 thing
[17:13] <Kaolc> edbian http://www.cs.caltech.edu/courses/cs11/misc/xwindows.html
[17:14] <edbian> Kaolc, If you hover the mouse over the icon it says "0:0  ??
[17:14] <tehgeekmeister> do i need to restart cron for it to recognize new files in cron.d?
[17:15] <jimcooncat> tehgeekmeister: you're not supposed to have to
[17:15] <Kaolc> Yes, it does
[17:15] <sacarlson> tehgeekmeister: no,  enless you didn't use crontab -e
[17:15] <Kaolc> hover over says "Xming Server:0.0"
[17:15] <edbian> Kaolc, They have a typo in the instructions.  in X Display Location you should put localhost:0.0  NOT localhost:0:0
[17:15] <Kaolc> I tried both
[17:15] <tehgeekmeister> sacarlson: ah, so i need to run crontab -e?
[17:16] <Kaolc> using a dot instead gives me the following error:
[17:16] <sacarlson> tehgeekmeister: only if you don't want to reboot or reset cron
[17:16] <edbian> Kaolc, Ignore 0:0  that is wrong.
[17:16] <edbian> Kaolc, lemme see the error :)
[17:16] <tehgeekmeister> sacarlson: well i was adding a new file to cron.d anyway, not editing crontab
[17:16] <unam3> does any one know any site to read up on, booting a usb flash with ubuntu server on from a cd with grub, anything or similar would be helpful :-D
[17:16] <Kaolc> [1] 17675
[17:16] <Kaolc> Error: Can't open display: localhost:10.0
[17:16] <Kaolc> Weird thing is I put 1.0 not 10.0 in putty.
[17:17] <sacarlson> tehgeekmeister: well that's not the normal method,  but I guess you must know what your doing.
[17:17] <jimcooncat> Kaolc: Putty adds 10, otherwise you'd be looking at your own display
[17:17] <Kaolc> Oh wait, I put localhost:0.0 and it gives me 10.0 for some reason.
[17:17] <tehgeekmeister> sacarlson: no, i have no clue, actually.
[17:17] <Kaolc> But then why isn't it working?
[17:18] <tehgeekmeister> sacarlson: should i put the entry into crontab instead?
[17:18] <tehgeekmeister> sacarlson: i was reverse engineering the sysstat cron file to figure out how to do mine
[17:18] <sacarlson> tehgeekmeister: cron is setup so any user account can setup a timed event.  if that's what you want to do that is the normal method
[17:19] <guntbert> Kaolc: 10:0 is the default when working with ssh -X
[17:19] <Kaolc> guntbert, what doesthat mean exactly?
[17:19] <sacarlson> tehgeekmeister:  try man crontab for more info
[17:19] <edbian> Kaolc, That is the problem.  10.0 != 0.0
[17:19] <matthatesspam> edbian: Back
[17:19] <tehgeekmeister> sacarlson: okay, thanks
[17:19] <Kaolc> So should I set it to -10.0? O_o
[17:19] <edbian> Kaolc, You're running xming at 0.0  you have to get putty to connect to it or change it.
[17:19] <sacarlson> tehgeekmeister: systat?
[17:19] <edbian> Kaolc, I don't know.
[17:19] <jimcooncat> Kaolc: how do you start xming? you'll need to tell it to use display 10
[17:20] <edbian> guntbert, He should be able to tell putty to connect to whatever sever he wants
[17:20] <tehgeekmeister> sacarlson: yeah, it dumps reports for sar
[17:20] <Kaolc> I just ticked run after installation
[17:20] <bkeating> Morning guys. Wondering if anyone could help me figure out why this is not working: http://dpaste.com/236317/
[17:20] <edbian> jimcooncat, He should be able to tell putty to use whatever X server he wants
[17:20] <guntbert> Kaolc: I didn't follow - was just a hint
[17:20] <sacarlson> tehgeekmeister: what account does it run in?
[17:20] <matthatesspam> edbian, what do I do from here?
[17:20] <edbian> matthatesspam, Sorry I forget what we are working on?
[17:20] <matthatesspam> Wireless trouble
[17:20] <Kaolc> Okay, so basically.. What do I do? I still don't understand the error.
[17:20] <tehgeekmeister> sacarlson: sysstat runs as root, think it has to
[17:20] <guntbert> edbian: yes, but obviously he didn't until now
[17:21] <edbian> guntbert, He is specifying 0.0 and it's attempting to connect to 10.0
[17:21] <tehgeekmeister> sacarlson: or at least i *believe* it runs as root.  if it doesn't, i don't know what account it uses.
[17:21] <rantic> Hi everyone, I just freshly installed 10.04.1 and am getting an error every time my computer boots for 15-20 seconds. Could anyone help me find out where it might be logged on my system?
[17:21] <edbian> Kaolc, Those are locations of server.  It's a virtual location.  Basically you have to get those numbers to be the same number.
[17:21] <matthatesspam> edbian, we were discussing wireless trouble in the netbook remix
[17:22] <Kaolc> edbian, okay, I see.. Why does it add 10?
[17:22] <edbian> Kaolc, Either figure out how to get putty to connect to 0.0 or get xming to have a server at 10.0
[17:22] <sacarlson> tehgeekmeister: not sure what it does or what it is.  what is it you want to do with cron or what is it you want to modify in systat?
[17:22] <edbian> Kaolc, I don't know how to do either one (well I do know putty but it doesn't seem to be listening)
[17:22] <edbian> matthatesspam, What did dmesg have to say?
[17:22] <Kaolc> okay, I set it to localhost:-10.0 and it's still trying 10.0
[17:22] <edbian> matthatesspam, What about lspci?  Does the hardware show up there?
[17:22] <Kaolc> How do I run my xming server on 10.0 then? Would be easier
[17:22] <tehgeekmeister> sacarlson: i want a script to run right after sysstat dumps it's statistics, to send me an email if the idle percentage drops too low
[17:22] <edbian> Kaolc, putty is ingoring you.  Right click the xming icon.  Are there settings for that?
[17:22] <guntbert> Kaolc: can you tell me shortly what you want to do?
[17:23] <edbian> guntbert, X forward over ssh using putty and xming on a windows client
[17:23] <Kaolc> well that was fast, yeah
[17:23] <blabluh> hey everybody
[17:23] <matthatesspam> edbian: It's showing an ethernet controller and a network controller
[17:24] <sacarlson> tehgeekmeister: if you just modify something like that just restart cron.  it should work fine.
[17:24] <matthatesspam> edbian: And I'm not sure what dmesg pulled up.
[17:24] <tehgeekmeister> sacarlson: cool, thanks
[17:24] <edbian> matthatesspam, Well then I'm not sure what to do next.
[17:24] <Kaolc> edbian, I got xming to say 10.0 now
[17:24] <rantic> Hi everyone, I just freshly installed 10.04.1 and am getting an error every time my computer boots for 15-20 seconds. Could anyone help me find out where it might be logged on my system?
[17:24] <edbian> matthatesspam, No offense but I didn't ask you to run dmesg and then forget the output.
[17:25] <edbian> Kaolc, So restart your putty connection with x forwarding and all that.
[17:25] <guntbert> Kaolc: that is easy, you must have the xming running on your windows machine, the in putty set (in the SSH region) "enable X forwarding", connect to the server and start any graphical app
[17:25] <matthatesspam> edbian, I don't know what dmesg was.
[17:25] <matthatesspam> I'm new to linxu
[17:25] <guntbert> *then in putty....
[17:25] <Kaolc> guntbert, that's exactly what I did
[17:25] <Kaolc> guntbert, it gives me an error and won't work. We're trying to fix it
[17:26] <guntbert> Kaolc: what was the error
[17:26] <edbian> matthatesspam, It is a general system log.  It is good for solving problem early on.  Run it again ("dmesg") and see if it has anything helpful.  Look only at the last 25 lines though.  The beginning is not going to be relevant.
[17:26] <Kaolc> umm sec
[17:26] <matthatesspam> Oh, OK
[17:26] <Kaolc> Error: Can't open display: localhost:10.0
[17:26] <edbian> Kaolc, Now that you got them on the same server number does it work?  Or still no?  New error?
[17:26] <guest__> Question: I'm trying to prepare for LPI-C 1 (101 and 102)  Has anyone here done this with Ubuntu (or a derivative thereof)?  I'm concerned that going sans root will leave me knowing workarounds instead of the 'Linux' way of doing things... Any thoughts?
[17:26] <Kaolc> Still not working.
[17:27] <edbian> Kaolc, It has the same error?  What does hovering over xming show?  10.0 ??
[17:27] <jimcooncat> edbian: perhaps Kaolc's sshd on the other end isn't set up for X forwarding
[17:27] <matthatesspam> edbian, the last twenty lines or so it repeats this rtl8192_SetWirelessMode(), wireless_mode:10, bEnableHT = 1"
[17:27] <Kaolc> Same error, hovering gives 10.0
[17:27] <guntbert> Kaolc: I know that error - the remote machine - is it a "normal" ubuntu machine?
[17:27] <Kaolc> guntbert, define normal
[17:27] <Kaolc> guntbert, it's a rented VPS server
[17:27] <edbian> matthatesspam, Hmmm it appears to be working?  Wireless networks do not show up in the panel applet?
[17:28] <edbian> guntbert, It is.
[17:28] <edbian> guntbert, It's not "server edition"
[17:28] <Kaolc> ah right
[17:28] <edbian> guntbert, What is with this error?
[17:28] <matthatesspam> edbian: The problem is ubuntu isn't recognizing my wireless network, but it has no problems with viewing my neighbor's.
[17:28] <guntbert> Kaolc: aahh - that changes things - did you install the OS yourself?
[17:28] <Kaolc> guntbert, no
[17:28] <edbian> matthatesspam, Then that's a problem with your wifi not your laptop.
[17:29] <Scans> hello,am facing a lil problem with reading arabic font from text that was in windows os and i already install arabic package, is there any way to read the text again?
[17:29] <edbian> guntbert, What difference does it make with it's server edition?  I feel like you're holding out on us! :)
[17:29] <matthatesspam> edbian: I can connect when I'm using Win7 though, and when I'm in the 10.04 desktop live CD
[17:29] <guntbert> Kaolc: I had that problem on some remote machine too - they seem to prevent that method of X tunneling
[17:29] <Kaolc> guntbert, what do I do then?
[17:30] <Kaolc> guntbert, I talked to them and they wouldn't help setting up any GUI but said that if I wanted one I'd have to do it myself, which leads me to believe it's possible
[17:30] <guntbert> edbian: no, nothing to do with server/desktop  see ^^
[17:30] <aeon-ltd> edbian: no X related crap in server edition
[17:30] <guntbert> aeon-ltd: please...
[17:30] <edbian> aeon-ltd, Hes running normal
[17:31] <guest__> Anyone here with LPI Certs?
[17:31] <edbian> guntbert, Who is "they" ??  The people who own the server?
[17:31] <guntbert> edbian: yes, they installed the OS too and made changes
[17:31] <edbian> guntbert, It is odd that it is a normal Ubuntu install and not server edition especially since they won't allow him to x forward.
[17:31] <edbian> guntbert, I see.
[17:31] <edbian> Kaolc, This sucks
[17:31] <Scans> hello,am facing a lil problem with reading arabic font from text that was in windows os and i already install arabic package, is there any way to read the text again? any idea guys?
[17:33] <xstex> ciao a tutti
[17:33] <guntbert> Kaolc: sorry, I gave up on that machine (text mode is fine :-)) - so I cannot really help you
[17:33] <guest__> Thanks guys.  Guess I should have a better nick if I want to be noticed.   I feel like im in a
[17:33] <Kaolc> edbian, it sure does.
[17:33] <guntbert> !it | xstex
[17:33] <xstex> !list
[17:33] <guest__> #Debian channel
[17:33] <guest__> later.
[17:33] <Kaolc> guntbert, I need a GUI to run mirc with scripts etc on it
[17:33] <guest__> peace
[17:34] <guntbert> Kaolc: then run irssi
[17:34] <Kaolc> guntbert, what's irssi? I need something that supports the MIRC scripting language
[17:34] <sipher> Kaolc: nothing for linux that supports mIRC scripting.
[17:34] <guntbert> irssi | Kaolc
[17:34] <IdleOne> Kaolc: in that case you need to run mirc
[17:34] <guntbert> !irssi | Kaolc
[17:35] <Kaolc> Idle0ne, exactly. That's why I need a GUI
[17:35] <IdleOne> Kaolc: xchat is a GUI client
[17:35] <sipher> Kaolc: x-chat supports perl scripts and has a gui.
[17:35] <Kaolc> I don't need perl scripts, I already made a huge mirc script which I need running 24/7.
[17:36] <sipher> Kaolc: they WILL NOT run on linux.
[17:36] <IdleOne> Kaolc: you can run mirc in wine if you absolutely need to
[17:36] <sipher> Kaolc: unless you run mIRC in wine.
[17:36] <Kaolc> Idle0ne, wine requires a GUI version of Unbuntu though, right? That's where I get stuck again
[17:36] <Kaolc> I mean, to fully operate mirc
[17:36] <tommjames> i ran mIRC in wine for a while, had some strange window refresh issues though
[17:36] <IdleOne> Kaolc: you want to run a GUI client with a GUI?
[17:36] <sipher> Kaolc: lol. of course. You need X for anything graphical. (other than ncurses interfaces)
[17:36] <IdleOne> without*
[17:37] <Kaolc> idleone, yes
[17:37] <Kaolc> sipher, problem is that x isn't working out
[17:37] <IdleOne> Kaolc: that is not possible
[17:37] <sipher> Kaolc: you have a VPS? from that sounds of it...
[17:37] <Kaolc> Idle0ne, are you saying it's not possible to run xserver - > server -> wine -> mirc?
[17:37] <sipher> the
[17:37] <Kaolc> sipher, yes
[17:37] <sipher> Kaolc: ask your hosting provider to re-install the VPS with ubuntu desktop.
[17:38] <sipher> that or install X
[17:38] <Kaolc> sipher, okay. I wonder if they'll do it, but okay. Thanks.
[17:38] <Pici> Kaolc: or with windows.
[17:38] <Kaolc> X isn't working, that's my problem
[17:38] <aetaric> sipher: that might not be possible.
[17:38] <Kaolc> Pici, yeah, except that's way more expensive, so I wanted to try this first
[17:38] <Kaolc> Plus, I guess I learned something. Oh well.
[17:39] <Kaolc> Now, I wonder what to do with the Ubuntu VPS. Any suggestions?
[17:41] <axisys> what is "best practice" method to move from a 250G (100G free) disk to 750G disk .. i am replacing the hard drive in my laptop.. i am running ubuntu desktop 64bit 10.04
[17:41] <axisys> ?
[17:41] <Fendaril_> Can somebody explain why I need uterm to bring up any vterm menus?
[17:41] <Fendaril_> it seems logical that the thing I am trying to emulate should have its own menu
[17:41] <Fendaril_> but no
[17:41] <sipher> axisys: dd has worked well for me in the past.
[17:41] <Fendaril_> only uterm does that
[17:41] <Fendaril_> I mean whats the difference between a unicode emulating terminal and juist xterm
[17:41] <fjkldlkjdkljj> hey
[17:42] <Fendaril_> xterm should bring a menu
[17:42] <fjkldlkjdkljj> i just learned something serious
[17:42] <axisys> sipher: i dont need exact snapshot really..
[17:42] <sipher> axisys: another way would be to install a fresh ubuntu on the new disk, and copy over the data you want.
[17:42] <fjkldlkjdkljj> my brother works for the police and there's this guy named "kenichi" on here
[17:42] <axisys> sipher: how about the pkgs ?
[17:42] <fjkldlkjdkljj> and he's been soliciting minors
[17:42] <IdleOne> !ot | fjkldlkjdkljj
[17:42] <sipher> axisys: they can be installed via the add/remove ?
[17:42] <opu> THE VOLUME BUTTON IS GONE FROM MY PANEL :(
[17:43] <maco> opu: is pulseaudio running?
[17:43] <ZykoticK9> opu, right click, add to panel, indicator applet (assuming 10.04 and you haven't removed pulse)
[17:43] <opu> YES
[17:43] <sipher> OK
[17:43] <IdleOne> opu: release the caps
[17:43] <opu> I AM GETTING SOUND AND CAN PLAY MUSIC
[17:43] <sipher> TAKE OFF CAPS LOCK
[17:44] <gofor> lol
[17:44] <axisys> sipher: i need to collect the list of pkgs installed on old drve.. save the list somehwere.. and then install them on the new drive
[17:44] <opu> there are two indicator applet
[17:44] <gofor> my caplock key is working fine
[17:44] <ZykoticK9> !clone | axisys
[17:45] <axisys> ZykoticK9: thank you!
[17:45] <sipher> there ya go :>
[17:45] <ZykoticK9> opu, NOT the "session" one, just "Indicator Applet"
[17:45] <axisys> sipher: yep
[17:45] <Thecake> Hey I'm having the same problem as opu after purging pulse then reinstalling it. What should I do?
[17:46] <milen8204> How i can make a starter for the program which starts whit Wine ?
[17:46] <ZykoticK9> Thecake, if you've removed pulse you won't get the default volume control
[17:46] <Thecake> Even after installing it again?
[17:47] <gofor> playOnLinux?
[17:47] <ZykoticK9> Thecake, sorry, i should read more carefully ;)  Not sure, good luck.
[17:48] <Thecake> Thanks, ill try re-adding the applet.
[17:51] <vludek> .
[17:52] <student7> hi there! does anyone know why aplay finds my card and moc kan play music in tty but they cant find any working driver in Xorg?
[17:52] <sergio__> salve
[17:53] <Phr3ak_> hi
[17:53] <nsd> I just installed samba onto a machine running 10.04 desktop (with sudo apt-get install samba), and I can't find /etc/init.d/samba to restart it. Did that script change names or location, or is there some other method of restarting it?
[17:53] <sometux> what is the best dictionary for ubuntu?
[17:54] <erUSUL> nsd: /etc/init/smbd.conf
[17:54] <erUSUL> nsd: sudo restart smbd
[17:54] <nsd> erUSUL: thanks
[17:54] <erUSUL> !upstart | nsd
[17:58] <sometux> Where is the sound scheme files are stored in Ubuntu?
[17:58] <Phr3ak_> any is uding wordpress over here ?
[17:58] <alfanet> innnnnnnn
[17:58] <alfanet> innnnn
[17:58] <ChesterX> hello
[17:58] <Phr3ak_> hi
[17:58] <ZykoticK9> sometux, check /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/stereo
[17:58] <ChesterX> does anyone of you use tubemaster++?
[18:00] <sergio__> salve
[18:00] <sergio__> !list
[18:01] <magnetron> !anyone | ChesterX
[18:03] <frobe> is 9.10 a good laptop os as oposed to 10.04?
[18:03] <jrib> frobe: do you have a good reason to not want to use 10.04?
[18:03] <frobe> whats better for the lappy/
[18:03] <sometux> Where I can download sound themes for Ubuntu (I don't like the default one)?
[18:04] <frobe> its an old laptop likjes 9 but mulling 10 over dont know yet also heard 10 sucks more juice
[18:05] <jrib> frobe: how old?  What are the specs?
[18:05] <ubuntu> i need help
[18:05] <frobe> dell 5160
[18:05] <jrib> ubuntu: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[18:05] <ubuntu> it happens everytime mann i m fedup with ubuntu
[18:05] <IdleOne> frobe: if you are happy with 9.10 and it is working fine then stick with it
[18:05] <frobe> penyium4 hyperthread
[18:05] <frobe> 2.4 ghz
[18:05] <jrib> !enter | frobe
[18:05] <ubuntu> 1-2 weeks after installing ubuntu this error comes Mount of File system failed
[18:06] <dandi8> hey guys
[18:06] <ubuntu> i have tried many things but none works
[18:06] <ubuntu> please help
[18:06] <dandi8> can someone help me?
[18:06] <ubuntu> please help me someoe
[18:06] <jrib> dandi8: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[18:06] <tyrosine> i can help me
[18:06] <jrib> ubuntu: what's the exact error and where exactly do you see it?
[18:06] <frobe> WhatEVER
[18:06] <Phr3ak_> why is that file system failing to mount ?
[18:06] <dandi8> I'm trying to run Ubuntu on a laptop and it doesn't work too well - the CPU usage is 100% every time I do anything
[18:06] <Phr3ak_> any errors ?
[18:07] <kljvkd> hello, just testing this IRC
[18:07] <ubuntu> jrib: after i select ubuntu from grub
[18:07] <frobe> lovin pandora today\
[18:07] <ubuntu> jrib: it had happened a lot of times!! man i m fedup!! i hav to format and install ubuntu again my hardisk will crash if this goes on
[18:07] <freezway> I have a theme and the top panel is transparent, but the background around the clock and a few other applets is not. How can I fix this?
[18:07] <Richiie> NSPlugin Viewer  *** WARNING: unhandled variable 18 (<unknown variable>) in NPN_GetValue()
[18:08] <jrib> ubuntu: I cannot help you if you do not answer my question
[18:08] <frobe> great website
[18:08] <magnetron> dandi8: ok, how did you measure it?
[18:08] <Richiie> anyone know's why my Irssi get this error msg? :S
[18:08] <Richiie> NSPlugin Viewer  *** WARNING: unhandled variable 18 (<unknown variable>) in NPN_GetValue()
[18:08] <frobe> www.pandora.com
[18:08] <ubuntu> jrib: Mount of file system failed
[18:08] <dandi8> the system monitor told me, it idles at about 20-30%
[18:08] <IdleOne> !ot | frobe
[18:08] <jrib> Richiie: did you run firefox in the same terminal?
[18:08] <dandi8> and if I move th e window around or anything it jumps to 100
[18:08] <jrib> ubottu: that's *exactly* what it says and nothing else?
[18:08] <frobe> k
[18:08] <dandi8> my system monitor graph looks like the freaking himalayas
[18:08] <frobe> #funny-art
[18:09] <jrib> ubuntu: that's *exactly* what it says and nothing else?
[18:09] <dandi8> I'm able to do simple word processing
[18:09] <dandi8> like this IRC channel
[18:09] <ubuntu> jrib:  more thing!! lucid lynx does not work on my pc dont know why i have tried many times but setup gets hang
[18:09] <dandi8> and web surfing
[18:09] <freezway> I have a theme and the top panel is transparent, but the background around the clock and a few other applets is not. How can I fix this?
[18:09] <dandi8> but anything else is out of the question
[18:09] <ubuntu> jrib: ya after the shell shutdown
[18:09] <jrib> !enter | dandi8
[18:09] <kyle_> anyone knw of a good video editor for ubuntu 10.4
[18:09] <jrib> ubuntu: "after the shell shutdown"?  What do you mean?
[18:09] <dandi8> and the laptop isn't that bad, it runs a lot of games in WinXP
[18:10] <jrib> kyle_: pitivi, kino?
[18:10] <IdleOne> kyle_: pitivi
[18:10] <frobe> i heard ther was going to be an appoclyps in 2012 I hope its a zombie one.!
[18:10] <IdleOne> openshot
[18:10] <maco> !ot | frobe
[18:10] <jrib> frobe: this channel is for ubuntu support only, use #ubuntu-offtopic for other things
[18:10] <IdleOne> frobe: Please keep your comments/questions Ubuntu support related
[18:11] <ubuntu> jrib: hmmm i dont have screenshot but it fails to mount the file system on which ubuntu is installed
[18:11] <dandi8> Oh, I'm also running the Maverick version since 10.04 just gave me a black screen after splash
[18:11] <ubuntu> jrib: maybe there is an error in grub
[18:11] <Richiie> jrib: no i dont really know i got google chroome up & running
[18:11] <jrib> ubuntu: ok, let's move on... what was the last thing you did with it?
[18:11] <ubuntu> jrib: maybe grub doesnt know exactly on which partition is ubuntu installed
[18:11] <ubuntu> jrib: i removed cmos battry
[18:12] <jrib> Richiie: ok... did you run any browser from that terminal?
[18:12] <Richiie> jrib: is it a normal bug if you open a lot of programs before you start irssi ?
[18:12] <lungan> How do I restore my ipod in Ubuntu+
[18:12] <jrib> Richiie: it's just output from your browser that goes to the terminal
[18:12] <freezway> I have a theme and the top panel is transparent, but the background around the clock and a few other applets is not. How can I fix this?
[18:12] <sipher> are you using wubi?
[18:12] <dandi8> ...hello...? Sorry, should I be using the PM system or something?
[18:13] <freezway> ?
[18:13] <sipher> http://core.elitter.net/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=148
[18:13] <sipher> this might help.
[18:13] <maco> dandi8: no, dont PM without permission
[18:13] <ubuntu> jrib: when i removed CMOS Battry exactly after that when i tried to boot ubuntu this error came
[18:13] <dandi8> oh, ok. Any ideas then?
[18:13] <luke-jr> anyone here know how to use ARM binaries on Ubuntu?
[18:13] <ubuntu> jrib: but my windows xp is working fine
[18:13] <maco> dandi8: however if you're running maverick you should be in #ubuntu+1 not here
[18:13] <jrib> ubuntu: put a live cd in and come back here
[18:13] <sipher> luke-jr: you don't.
[18:13] <dandi8> oh ok, what's the command for joining channels?
[18:13] <luke-jr> sipher: then why does Ubuntu have a package for it? :/
[18:14] <maco> dandi8: /join
[18:14] <ubuntu> jrib: ya m running on live cd right now
[18:14] <dandi8> ok, thx
[18:14] <jrib> ubuntu: mount your install
[18:14] <frobe> when are microsoft and linux going to shake hands?
[18:14] <ubuntu> jrib: sorry?
[18:14] <sipher> luke-jr: if there is an emulator I wasn't aware. From what I know ubuntu doesn't natively support arm. (Ubuntu does run on ARM)
[18:14] <maco> sipher: yes it does
[18:14] <luke-jr> sipher: qemu-kvm-extras-static
[18:14] <jrib> !away > Omnifarious
[18:14] <luke-jr> sipher: includes ARM user-mode emulator, and binfmt_misc config for it
[18:15] <luke-jr> the problem I'm hitting is with libraries
[18:15] <sipher> then I'm the wrong person to be asking the question to :p
[18:15] <ubuntu> jrib: how do i mount install?
[18:15] <ubuntu> jrib: sorry i am a little newb
[18:15] <jrib> ubuntu: sudo mount /dev/WHEREVER_YOUR_UBUNTU_IS /mnt
[18:15] <luke-jr> I suppose I could copy the entire system root and try some kind of LD_PRELOAD hack… :/
[18:15] <Crankygeek01> Mbroeker: Are you still available?
[18:15] <mbroeker> Crankygeek01, yes
[18:16] <sipher> luke-jr: whats the error?
[18:16] <maco> luke-jr: there's an arm version of ubuntu, i just dont know where the installer is...
[18:16] <Fendaril_> jrib: Why did you activate your ops
[18:16] <Crankygeek01> Can you send me a pm
[18:16] <ubuntu> jrib: it is hda0 sda8 mm can i know the command to see all partitions
[18:16] <maco> luke-jr: here, theres armel on here http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/lucid/release/
[18:16] <jrib> ubuntu: sudo fdisk -l
[18:16] <luke-jr> sipher: $ /usr/lib/telepathy/telepathy-spirit  \n   /lib/ld-linux.so.3: No such file or directory
[18:16] <sinnedam> hey guys im trying to get a sql based program to work under wine, which log file can i look at for troubleshooting issues?
[18:17] <jrib> sinnedam: try #winehq
[18:17] <jorn80> anyone know if it there exist a ppa archive with the latest Oracla Java JRE?
[18:17] <sipher> luke-jr: ls -la /usr/lib/telepathy/telepathy-spirit does it exist?
[18:17] <luke-jr> sipher: yes, I used dpkg --force-architecture to install it
[18:17] <sipher> confirm..is there file there?
[18:17] <luke-jr> yes
[18:17] <ubuntu> jrib: can't find /dev/sda8/mnt in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[18:18] <luke-jr> (FWIW, this is Skype 4.2 for Telepathy/Empathy…)
[18:18] <jrib> ubuntu: you forgot a space
[18:18] <sipher> luke-jr: is it configured in /etc/ld.so.conf.d ?
[18:18] <luke-jr> sipher: ld-linux.so.3 doesn't exist
[18:18] <luke-jr> sipher: and it's looking for an ARM ld-linux.so.3
[18:18] <ubuntu> jrib: now?
[18:19] <ubuntu> jrib: no errors i guess it was right
[18:19] <sipher> luke-jr: uhm, are you use?
[18:19] <ubuntu> jrib: now shall i restart and check if ubuntu is working?
[18:19] <jrib> ubuntu: no
[18:19] <ubuntu> jrib: so now what do i do
[18:19] <jrib> ubuntu: be patient and let me type a sentence...
[18:19] <lungan> How do I reset my Ipod in Ubuntu?
[18:19] <luke-jr> sipher: use?
[18:20] <sipher> cat /etc/ld.so.conf.d/libc.conf
[18:20] <luke-jr> /usr/local/lib
[18:20] <sinnedam> sorry it says i cant join #wine says i have to have invite
[18:20] <sipher> luke-jr: the lib path mentioned above doesn't appear to be configured.
[18:20] <ubuntu> jrib: extremely sorry if i am a little fast actually i am very qurious and excited
[18:21] <jrib> ubuntu: pastebin the result of « ls /dev/disk/by-uuid/ » and the contents of /mnt/boot/grub/grub.cfg
[18:21] <luke-jr> sipher: it's not a lib path
[18:21] <luke-jr> even if under lib
[18:21] <avi_> <<
[18:21] <avi_> jrib: How'd you make that << symbol?
[18:21] <ubuntu> jrib: 2CC8D694C8D65BA0                      5818B9E518B9C1F4  9CFC3800FC37D2EE
[18:21] <ubuntu> 57d7a35d-74b4-426b-820b-ffb7a650696f  84C0C1A3C0C19BB4  BE10B70110B6C027
[18:22] <jrib> avi_: like this «» (I added it to my keyboard layout)
[18:22] <mama21mama> hi
[18:22] <avi_> jrib: Ah I see. Thanks.
[18:22] <jrib> !pastebin | ubuntu
[18:22] <jrib> ubuntu: also add "-l" to the ls command please
[18:22] <avi_> !botsnack
[18:22] <mama21mama> new bug - no keyboard or mouse - ubuntu 10.04.1 - http://w2t.us/l1 | any help?
[18:23] <mama21mama> Bug #626925
[18:23] <sinnedam> is there an equivalent to windows event viewer application log in ubuntu?
[18:23] <blockhead> Hello, are there any video editing programs, that keep the sound of the file still on that file of the video, but can edit scenes to where they can be posted on sites like youtube?
[18:23] <avi_> blockhead: Not sure about your specific need,  but have you tried Pitivi and Kdenlive?
[18:24] <blockhead> I've tried nothing yet avi_
[18:24] <blockhead> Am just looking for a video editing site
[18:24] <mama21mama> I'm going to puppy ¬¬
[18:24] <blockhead> I have american pie 1, 2, 3 on avi
[18:24] <blockhead> and am looking to edit scenes and post them on youtube
[18:24] <blockhead> was wondering for ubuntu if there are any programs to do that
[18:25] <ubuntu> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/485921/
[18:25] <andy> hi
[18:25] <uRock_> !hi
[18:25] <blockhead> avi_, you understand that?
[18:25] <uRock_> !manual
[18:25] <Guest38005> hey
[18:25] <jrib> ubuntu: thanks, and now that grub.cfg
[18:26] <avi_> blockhead: I do, but like I said I'm not really able to help you. I only can suggest trying out pitivi and kdenlive.
[18:26] <blockhead> I have pitivi installed it says
[18:26] <blockhead> but I can't seem to use it.
[18:26] <ubuntu> jrb: what do i do
[18:26] <avi_> blockhead: Says what?
[18:26] <jrib> ubuntu: pastebin the result of « ls /dev/disk/by-uuid/ » and the contents of /mnt/boot/grub/grub.cfg
[18:26] <blockhead> It says it's installed
[18:26] <blockhead> but I don't know how to install it
[18:27] <avi_> blockhead: You mean you don't know how to open it?
[18:27] <lungan> How do I reset my Ipod in Ubuntu?
[18:28] <tyrosine> lugan - hold the button for 10 seconds as you turn it on
[18:28] <blockhead> yeah avi
[18:28] <blockhead> avelldiroll,
[18:28] <blockhead> avi_,
[18:28] <sinnedam> anybody? is there a ubuntu equivalent to windows application event viewer
[18:28] <avi_> lungan: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=570124
[18:28] <avelldiroll> blockhead: ?
[18:28] <avi_> blockhead: To open it go to Applications > Sound & Video > Pitivi
[18:28] <tyrosine> sinnedam: dmesg?
[18:28] <lungan> avi_, Didn't help
[18:29] <ulisse> hi guys
[18:29] <tyrosine> sinnedam: tail -f /var/log/system ?
[18:29] <blockhead> ah
[18:29] <avi_> lungan: What model is it? And what are you looking to do specifically?
[18:29] <blockhead> let me try this
[18:29] <blockhead> avi_,  thank you
[18:29] <tyrosine> sinnedam: tail -f /var/log/syslog *** sorry
[18:29] <blockhead> bbl
[18:29] <blockhead> thanks avi_
[18:29] <avi_> blockhead: Sure thing.
[18:29] <FloodBot2> blockhead: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:29] <ulisse> how can I find what is eating all the space on root partition in a remote system, accessible via ssh?
[18:29] <sinnedam> tyrosine im looking at system/administration/log file viewer
[18:29] <lungan> avi_, My DB crashed, but my .mp3s are still on the ipod. Thats the problem it's an 2 gb black nano
[18:30] <ulisse> I tried to look in /var/log but it's not the case
[18:30] <avi_> ulisse: Disk Usage analyser + X11 forwarding.
[18:30] <tyrosine> sinnedam: correct
[18:30] <tyrosine> sinnedam: xterm, then "dmesg"
[18:30] <zygmunt306> CZY może ktoś wie jakie sterowniki wgrać  do grforca 240 grt ?
[18:30] <zygmunt306> 10.04
[18:30] <ulisse> avi_: ssh -X you mean?
[18:30] <avi_> lungan: Ah I see. And there's no way to do that with Wine?
[18:30]  * ulisse tries
[18:30] <avi_> ulisse: Yup.
[18:31] <avelldiroll> zygmunt306: this is an english speaking chan
[18:31] <lungan> avi_, Maybe I can try installing Itunes with wine
[18:31] <sinnedam> um..i dont really see what you are talking about..when i open system log viewer i have tons of different logs to choose
[18:31] <ubuntu> jrib: what do i do now
[18:31] <sinnedam> so which would be similar to application log in windows
[18:31] <avi_> lungan: Go for it. There's some support, not sure how well it works. Or perhaps you could install Windows in virtual box.
[18:31] <tyrosine> sinnedam: "ls /var/log"
[18:31] <jrib> ubuntu: have you pastebinned the grub.cfg yet?
[18:32] <jrib> ubuntu: you should pick a better name because it's basically impossible for me to /lastlog our conversation
[18:32] <ubuntu> jrob: its showing comand not founf
[18:32] <jrib> ubuntu: what command did you run?
[18:32] <ubuntu> jrib: its showing comand not found
[18:32] <synvilla> okay, I have a problem
[18:32] <synvilla> I cant find the software I've downloaded in ubuntu software center
[18:32] <ulisse> avi_:  it's slooooooowww , but doing it :)
[18:32] <ubuntu> jrib: sudo: /mnt/boot/grub/grub.cfg: command not found
[18:32] <avi_> synvilla: ask! | synvilla
[18:33] <avi_> ulisse: Yeah that's expected. But good :D
[18:33] <sanduz2> i installed the GNU Emacs 23 package but i wanted to use Emacs in terminal, this one uses GTK. what do i do?
[18:33] <jrib> ubuntu: it's a file, use gedit to read it
[18:33] <synvilla> avi_: what?
[18:33] <avi_> synvilla: !ask | synvilla
[18:33] <sinnedam> im sorry i dont see LS or VAR anywhere :(
[18:33] <avi_> synvilla: !ask
[18:33] <blockhead> avi_, what was that other program you said besides
[18:33] <blockhead> PitiVi
[18:33] <synvilla> !ask I cant find the software I've downloaded in ubuntu software center
[18:33] <avi_> synvilla: Wow our bot must be offline.
[18:33] <avi_> blockhead: Kdenlive
[18:34] <blockhead> it doesn't seem to work avi_ , it won't recoginize it if I try to open it with the program
[18:34] <smw> Can someone tell me how to enable bluetooth? I started system -> preferences -> bluetooth and all it had was a button to enable bluetooth. When I click it, nothing happens.
[18:34] <avi_> synvilla: Well, it's going to be under applications and then a category usually.
[18:34] <lenswipe|debian> hey guys
[18:34] <avi_> synvilla: What specifically did you install?
[18:34] <lenswipe|debian> how do i find out what make and model my video card is?
[18:34] <MarkRich> Hello Everyone,
[18:34] <MarkRich> I'm using Ubuntu 10.04 with Evolution 2.28.3.  I just installed client & as I went through the installation the dialog box for selecting the incoming & outgoing mail servers was not selectable.
[18:34] <MarkRich> After the install I went into Edit, Preferences, & for the Recieving Mail menu showed the server type as none.  When I click on the drop down arrow nothing happens.  The Server Type menu for the outgoing mail server is not even selectable.
[18:34] <lenswipe|debian> how do i find out what make and model my video card is?
[18:34] <MarkRich> I removed & reinstalled it several times.  I also installed the evolution-exchange even though I figured this would be installed by default.  What do you think it might be?  Thanks
[18:35] <smw> lenswipe|debian, try lspci | grep -i "vga"
[18:35] <lenswipe|debian> smw, ty
[18:35] <seidos> how can i find out what binary file an icon in applications is associated with?
[18:35] <ubuntu> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/485926/
[18:35] <sacarlson> smw: do you have a bluetooth device on that computer?
[18:35] <Fendaril_> I was experimenting with my menubar and unclicked the show menubar option
[18:35] <Fendaril_> how Do I bring it back?
[18:35] <synvilla> avi_: It's not under appications. I installed 7zip, because archieve manager won't let me open RAR
[18:35] <smw> sacarlson, yes. When I don't have one. It does not even give me the option to enable it
[18:35] <th0r> seidos: look at the .desktop file in /usr/share/applications (usually), or run the program and look at 'ps ax'
[18:35] <sanduz2> can someone tell me how to use Emacs through the terminal and not graphically?
[18:35] <geirha> Fendaril_: Right-click in the terminal window and choose show menubar
[18:35] <avi_> synvilla: Then it would most likely not have an entry there. It probably just added a contextual menu item to Nautilus
[18:36] <synvilla> avi_: not following
[18:36] <avi_> synvilla: So just right-click the compressed file and select 7zip.
[18:36] <adalal> hi, i was just wondering, can UID range restrictions be changed? as in, any uid < 1000 is a system user, could that be extended to be up to 2000?
[18:36] <Fendaril_> geirha: Thank you sir
[18:37] <synvilla> avi_: that doesn't work, it wants to know where on the computer it is, I need to click on browse blabla. because 7zip is not in the list
[18:37] <jrib> ubuntu: pastebin /mnt/etc/fstab
[18:37] <KrisKo> hi, anybody using screen? Is there a way to move opened tabs to a different possition?
[18:37] <trism> synvilla: the 7zip in the repos is only a command line version, but archive manager and the right-click compress option can both use it when it is installed
[18:37] <avi_> synvilla: Try typing "killall nautilus" into a terminal.
[18:37] <ubuntu> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/485927/
[18:38] <Fendaril_> avi_: i WILL TRY
[18:38] <Fendaril_> killall nautilus
[18:38] <Fendaril_> oh right this is irssi not a terminal prompt
[18:38] <dobak> hello
[18:38] <jrib> ubuntu: I don't see what's wrong, the UUID is clearly correct and you can mount the partition fine on the live cd.  Was there nothing else on the screen with the error message?
[18:38] <avi_> Fendaril_: Aha.
[18:38] <seidos> th0r, thanks.  so they are .desktop files?  interesting
[18:38] <synvilla> avi_: wrote it
[18:38] <ubuntu> jrib: yup
[18:38] <Fendaril_> avi_: Will it cause me grief to run the command
[18:39] <rantic> Hi everyone, if anyone has the chance could try looking at the thread I made? I'd appreciate it http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9785262
[18:39] <avi_> synvilla: All it does is restart nautilus.
[18:39] <jrib> ubuntu: don't know then, try again alter
[18:39] <ubuntu> jrib: hey can you tell me why lucid lynx does not work in my pc? i have normal configuration
[18:39] <tyrosine> rantic: what's it about?
[18:39] <ubuntu> jrib: its ok thanks for helping me
[18:39] <avi_> rantic: Title is:  Issues with unknown memory controller on boot
[18:39] <ubuntu> jrib: the setup gets hang
[18:39] <ubuntu> jrib: even if i upgrade still same it gets hanged
[18:40] <synvilla> avi_: it still can't find 7ziå
[18:40] <synvilla> p
[18:40] <jrib> ubuntu: hangs when?
[18:40] <ulisse> avi_: baobab results are quite stange: i have more than 20GB occupied in / but the largest folder is /usr with just 2.3GB...
[18:40] <ubuntu> jrib: i have 2gb ram 250gb hadd and dual core processor
[18:40] <ubuntu> jrib: hangs when setup starts
[18:40] <MarkRich> Hello Everyone, Any idea what that might be?
[18:40] <avi_> synvilla: Interesting.. what sort of file are you trying to open?
[18:40] <jrib> ubuntu: and when you upgrade?  When does it hang?
[18:40] <ubuntu> jrib: when i try to run its live cd it gets hang during login
[18:40] <avi_> !patience | MarkRich
[18:40] <synvilla> a RAR
[18:41] <synvilla> avi_:  a RAR
[18:41] <smw> Anyone got any ideas on why when I click the "enable bluetooth" button in the bluetooth settings menu it grays out the button but does not do anything?
[18:41] <ubuntu> jrib: while upgrading it hangs during setup and while booting it hangs on login itself it doesnt login
[18:41] <trism> synvilla: there is no 7zip gui like in windows, if you want to unrar, you need to install unrar
[18:41] <trism> synvilla: then archive manager can extract rars
[18:41] <jrib> is there a better way to create 63 new users than to write a small shell script involving useradd and crypt()?
[18:41] <synvilla> hmm
[18:41] <synvilla> unrar?
[18:41] <synvilla> I'll try to check
[18:42] <ubuntu> jrib: hey can you tell me why ubuntu does not support bluetooth? even that i tried a lot here but no one could help me
[18:42] <avi_> synvilla: Yup. That was going to be my next statement.
[18:42] <avi_> synvilla: sudo apt-get install unrar
[18:42] <jrib> ubuntu: bluetooth has worked for me in the past
[18:42] <ubuntu> jrib: should i use kubuntu? or lubuntu?
[18:42] <jrib> ubuntu: whatever you like
[18:42] <ubuntu> jrib: can you recommend ?
[18:42] <Pici> jrib: man newusers
[18:43] <avi_> ulisse: Interesting..
[18:43] <jrib> Pici: thanks
[18:43] <adalal> smw: tried the rfkill list?
[18:43] <ubuntu> ?
[18:43] <smw> adalal, what is that?
[18:43] <avi_> ubuntu: Which depends on your needs..
[18:43] <erUSUL> !info mkpasswd | jrib
[18:43] <ubuntu> jrib: anyways my querries wont end heheh you carry on and sorry to disturb you thanks for helping
[18:44] <ulisse> avi_: df is showing 22GB used, but I can't find any file/folder using that space... could it maybe be something in /proc?
[18:44] <avi_> ulisse: Hmm. Maybe. Not sure really what the major space hogs in / are.
[18:44] <adalal> smw: try typing in rfkill list
[18:44] <avi_> ulisse: Did you try cleaning out logs?
[18:44] <adalal> smw: see if your bluetooth is softblocked or hard blocked
[18:45] <Pici> !nickspam > lenswipe|debian
[18:45] <synvilla> Okay, how do I get it to find the unrarer?
[18:45] <ulisse> avi_: yep, but /var just uses about 350M, so it must be somewhere else
[18:45] <lenswipe|debian> Pici, sorry, it was for another channel i forgot i was in here
[18:45] <Nud3lz> lol
[18:45] <hiku> avi_: ulisse, have you checked /var /opt(if you have it), /home? if not on a different partition
[18:45] <ulisse> avi_: /home is another partition, I'll check /opt
[18:45] <robyromania> hi, i've got some problem with the fragmentation and chop-chop attacks in aireplay. if i'm on ubuntu karmic, they both work well and i can generate a PRGA file. if i do exactly the same thing on ubuntu lucid, they keep reading packets and don't ask me to choose one. on both OS-es wireless works, and i can connect to networks
[18:45] <smw> adalal, that is an awesome command. Good to know :-). Anyways, it says nothing is blocked
[18:46] <avi_> hiku: < ulisse> avi_: /home is another partition, I'll check /opt
[18:46] <erUSUL> ulisse: look in /var/log/ maybe sometihng is spamming the logs
[18:47] <adalal> smw: bluetooth reports not softblocks or hardblocks?
[18:47] <erUSUL> ulisse: anyway --> Aplications>Accesories>disk use analizer
[18:47] <synvilla> Anyone - how do I unrar now that I have unraring software?
[18:47] <trism> synvilla: at this point you should just be able to select the right file, right click, and "Extract here...", or open with archive manager
[18:47] <ulisse> erUSUL: is there any specific command to purge the logs?
[18:47] <erUSUL> synvilla: right click on the rar file. choose extract here
[18:47] <smw> adalal, correct
[18:47] <erUSUL> ulisse: no;
[18:47] <smw> adalal, this is interesting: sudo start bluetooth
[18:47] <smw> start: Unknown job: bluetooth
[18:47] <synvilla> avi_: nope, it still says BAD
[18:47] <JamesC> Hey, I'm new and I have a quick question:
[18:47] <JamesC> I'm trying to install a program and I have to manually change the permission so I can run it when it says..
[18:47] <JamesC> "<version>" what am I suppose to put?
[18:47] <synvilla> bad archieve
[18:48] <erUSUL> JamesC: what program?
[18:48] <synvilla> it what it says
[18:48] <synvilla> erUSUL: nope, doesn't work
[18:48] <JamesC> Java SE Development Kit (JDK 6):
[18:48] <adalal> smw: right... maybe you should try installing it :P... try sudo apt-get install bluetooth
[18:48] <erUSUL> synvilla: maybe you have to log out and log in again so nautilus and file-roller notice that you have unrar or rar installed
[18:48] <erUSUL> !java | JamesC
[18:48] <synvilla> Mkay
[18:49] <adalal> smw: um, i dont know how good the native bluetooth gui is.. but you could also try blueman, it's in the launchpad repos
[18:49] <san> jrib: you there?
[18:49] <JamesC> I'll go see how that works, thank you.
[18:49] <jrib> san: yes?
[18:49] <rantic> tyrosine: Sorry issues with the connection. I'm a complete newb so I can't really tell you what it's about.  I get a message that literally says unknown memory controller when I'm booting my machine. The best google research I could do was to determine it's probably an issue with the memory card reader.
[18:49] <smw> adalal, thanks. I stupidly assumed that the frontend being installed meant the backend was there too :-P
[18:50] <rantic> avi_: Same thing .. I honestly don't know : (
[18:50] <san> jrib: thanks mann it worked i am ubuntu
[18:50] <ulisse> erUSUL: /var/log is 5.1Mb in size. It looks like the space-eater is undetectable by the system
[18:50] <erUSUL> JamesC: s you have to enable the partner repositorie and install sun-java6-jdk
[18:50] <san> jrib: dont know what was the error but now ubuntu is working properly
[18:50] <jrib> san: but we didn't actually change anything :)
[18:50] <adalal> smw: normally that is the case, but apparently not.. anyways, have a go, and try out blueman as well..
[18:50] <san> jrib: lol i guess we reminded pc where files are hheheh :)
[18:50] <jrib> san: weird
[18:50] <san> jrib: lol its exactly like my pc
[18:50] <erUSUL> ulisse: inconsistencies in the filesystem can couse bogus free space reporting. have you passed a fsck to the filesystem ?
[18:51] <san> jrib: hey mmmm i have another problem here
[18:51] <ulisse> erUSUL: it's a remote machine, i can't umount the filesystem from here
[18:51] <san> jrib: can you help?
[18:51] <jrib> san: just ask the channel, I'll help if I can
[18:51] <ulisse> erUSUL: also it seems to eat more and more space day by day...
[18:51] <robyromania> hi, i've got some problem with the fragmentation and chop-chop attacks in aireplay. if i'm on ubuntu karmic, they both work well and i can generate a PRGA file. if i do exactly the same thing on ubuntu lucid, they keep reading packets and don't ask me to choose one. on both OS-es wireless works, and i can connect to networks
[18:52] <robyromania> the guys from the aircrack channel say, ubuntu lucid is broken
[18:52] <robyromania> any ideas?
[18:52] <san> 1 week ago i reinstalled ubuntu after and all was well then i updated it asked to restart and i did then after that my display driver is not responding i mean there is no compiz effects
[18:52] <KB1JWQ> robyromania: 'Ask a coherent question?' :-)
[18:53] <san> please help somone
[18:53] <ikonia> san: what driver are you using ?
[18:53] <robyromania> KB1JWQ, i've got some problem with the fragmentation and chop-chop attacks in aireplay. if i'm on ubuntu karmic, they both work well and i can generate a PRGA file. if i do exactly the same thing on ubuntu lucid, they keep reading packets and don't ask me to choose one. on both OS-es wireless works, and i can connect to networks. the guys from the aircrack channel say, ubuntu lucid is broken. so what is the problem then?
[18:53] <san> ikonia: ati
[18:54] <san> ikonia: i hav ati radean x200 built in motherboard
[18:54] <ikonia> san: ok, then I'm afraid I can't help as ATI are known to have terrible support
[18:54] <san> ikonia: but just 2 mins ago i ran in live cd and it had effects !! lol
[18:54] <rantic> Hi everyone, if anyone has the chance could try looking at the thread I made? I'd appreciate it - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9785262
[18:54] <san> ikonia: even in xp my driver is working
[18:54] <smw> !bluetooth
[18:54] <erUSUL> are you sure you can not find where is the space wasted ? you can « du  / | sort -rn | head »
[18:54] <ikonia> san: XP has nothing to do with linux support
[18:55] <erUSUL> ulisse: are you sure you can not find where is the space wasted ? you can « du  / | sort -rn | head » and work from there going deeper on the file hierarchy
[18:55] <ikonia> rantic: your issue is nothing to do with a memory controller
[18:55] <ikonia> rantic: mmc are multi media card readers
[18:55] <san> ikonia: but if xp is running well then it means my card is ok
[18:55] <ikonia> san: I didn't say there was a problem with your card
[18:56] <rantic> ikonia: I realized that after I posted the thread and now I can't edit the title : (
[18:56] <ikonia> san: I said ATI have terrible /unstable driver support
[18:56] <san> ikonia: ok no prob
[18:56] <n0wje> i have a Deskjet hp 1430 usb printer  ubuntu 10.04  finds it and installs driver but will not print a test page. any ideas anyone.
[18:57] <ulisse> erUSUL: I used right that command, but it is not more useful of baobab, the largest files or folders toghether are not 1/10 of the occupied disk size
[18:57] <robyromania> KB1JWQ, so, any idea?
[18:57] <erUSUL> ulisse: then the fsck looks like the only solution .... maybe you can « sudo touch /forcefsck » and reboot the machine?
[18:57] <avelldiroll> san: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[18:58] <san> avelldiroll: thanks
[18:58] <yaaar> howdy
[18:58] <KB1JWQ> robyromania: Not offhand, I don't do much work with aireplay these days.  What do the folks in #backtrack-linux have to say about it?
[18:58] <san> avelldiroll: i have tried this but dint help
[18:58] <KB1JWQ> Or Aircrack for that matter, robyromania
[18:59] <robyromania> KB1JWQ, the guys in aircrack say, that ubuntu lucid is broken
[18:59] <ulisse> erUSUL: i'll go to the machine in two days, try fsck from there and eventually reinstall the whole system, with dpkg --get-selections should be fast enough...
[18:59] <robyromania> KB1JWQ, that's not an answer that helps
[18:59] <erUSUL> ulisse: ok; good luck
[18:59] <ulisse> thanks :)
[18:59] <ikonia> robyromania: then ask them to log a bug against the broken component
[19:00] <marat93> hello
[19:00] <robyromania> ikonia, they don't use ubuntu
[19:00] <marat93> kjn'alksdnvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv
[19:00] <ikonia> robyromania: then how do they know it's broken ?
[19:00] <ikonia> marat93: please don't do that
[19:00] <marat93> sdvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvdddddddddddddljdvbbvbvbvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv
[19:01] <robyromania> ikonia, they have pentoo (http://www.pentoo.ch/download/)
[19:01] <ikonia> robyromania: how is what they have anything to do with ubuntu
[19:01] <ikonia> robyromania: if they "know" ubuntu is broke, then they need to log a bug
[19:01] <robyromania> ikonia, that's what they told me. they said i should join the ubuntu channel and ask the devs
[19:01] <ikonia> robyromania: they need to log a bug explaining the problem against the broken package
[19:01] <maco> robyromania: this isnt a developer channel anyway
[19:02] <idhenk> anyone know how to install nvidia driver?
[19:02] <robyromania> ikonia, they don't do much talking about ubuntu. they just said, i should move to another distro which is not broken, or ask the devs
[19:02] <ikonia> idhenk: open the hardware driver manager, and click enable against the nvidia option
[19:02] <robyromania> ikonia, there is no problem in the package
[19:02] <ikonia> robyromania: they don't have to talk about it, they need to log a bug against it
[19:02] <idhenk> cant
[19:02] <robyromania> ikonia, it's in the system, i don't know. it just works on karmic, but not on lucid
[19:03] <ikonia> robyromania: then they need to log a bug ?
[19:03] <idhenk> its all greyed
[19:03] <ikonia> idhenk: please pastebin the output of "lspci" in a pastebin
[19:03] <rolandpish> What is the option for dpkg to install dependencies of a deb file downloaded manually?
[19:03] <MarkRich> Hello Everyone,
[19:03] <MarkRich> The Evolution mail client for Ubuntu is not working.
[19:03] <MarkRich> I'm using Ubuntu 10.04 with Evolution 2.28.3.  I just installed client & as I went through the installation the dialog box for selecting the incoming & outgoing mail servers was not selectable.
[19:03] <robyromania> ikonia, i don't know, do they? it's no bug, the application is working. it's only not doing what it's supposed to
[19:03] <MarkRich> After the install I went into Edit, Preferences, & for the Recieving Mail menu showed the server type as none.  When I click on the drop down arrow nothing happens.  The Server Type menu for the outgoing mail server is not even selectable.
[19:03] <JamesC> I'm still kind of confused so I'll repost the question:
[19:04] <robyromania> ikonia, have you ever used aircrack-ng?
[19:04] <ikonia> robyromania: look - if there is a bug, they need to log a bug, if there is not a bug, what are you talking about
[19:04] <MarkRich> I removed & reinstalled it several times.  I also installed the evolution-exchange even though I figured this would be installed by default.  I also deleted the .evolution directory.
[19:04] <MarkRich> What do you think it might be?  Thanks
[19:05] <robyromania> ikonia, maybe it's broken functionality. i'm telling them to log a bug, let's see what they say
[19:05] <Guest10246> hey all
[19:05] <Artopal> Hi, while uninstalling unneeded things, I accidentally uninstalled the MeMenu and the PowerOffMenu which are usually on the top left. How do I get them back? Which are the name of the packages which provide them?
[19:05] <JamesC> I'm still kind of confused so I'll repost the question:
[19:05] <JamesC> I'm trying to install Download Java SE Development Kit 6u21
[19:05] <JamesC> I'm following the instructions on the website and I get to a point when it says:
[19:05] <JamesC> chmod a+x jdk-6u                 <version>-linux-i586.bin    // What do I use for <version> ?
[19:05] <FloodBot2> JamesC: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:05] <zeknox> my ubuntu 10.04 always shuts down properly, but whenever I turn it on, it says it was not a clean unmount, and does a fsck every bootup, ideas?
[19:05] <trism> Artopal: indicator-applet-session
[19:06] <maco> JamesC: whatever the name of the file is that it downloaded that ends in .bin is the file name you put there
[19:06] <Artopal> trism, Thanks!
[19:06] <xangua> Artopal: iindicator-me indicator-sound indicator-applet¿
[19:06] <JamesC> It's not asking for the version of Linux I have, maco?
[19:07] <maco> JamesC: well the .bin *has* to be the name of a file because that's what chmod takes as an argument
[19:07] <erUSUL> JamesC: you really should be installing the jdk from the repos
[19:07] <robyromania> ikonia, those guys are arrogant.
[19:07] <erUSUL> JamesC: less pain in the future
[19:07] <ikonia> robyromania: that's not #ubuntu's issue
[19:07] <JamesC> No idea what "repos" is
[19:08] <Sirisian|Work> Anyone know how makes the postgresql packages for ubuntu?
[19:08] <aeon-ltd> JamesC: repository, a server that has packages
[19:08] <ikonia> Sirisian|Work: "how makes the postgres package" ?
[19:08] <robyromania> ikonia, that's where people should work together, to fix things
[19:08] <ikonia> robyromania: you're telling the wrong person
[19:08] <Sirisian|Work> ikonia, who
[19:08] <ikonia> Sirisian|Work: it's a team, the team contact is on launchpad.net
[19:08] <JamesC> aeon, so I wouldn't have to use the terminal to install or something?
[19:08] <robyromania> ikonia, did they change some drivers from karmic to lucid?
[19:09] <jrib> Pici: newusers doesn't use /etc/skel :(  but saved me a bunch of time anyway, thanks
[19:09] <ikonia> robyromania: it's a different kernel, so yes
[19:09] <Pici> jrib: yuck :(
[19:09] <robyromania> ikonia, ok, that means that i have to find some patches to make it work again
[19:09] <ikonia> jrib: when did newusers become part of the shadow package ?
[19:09] <ikonia> robyromania: not really, it means you need to log a bug against the problem
[19:10] <Pici> JamesC: 'repos' are the Ubuntu package repositories, which are the proper way to install software on Ubuntu.
[19:10] <jrib> ikonia: no idea!  I had actually seen it in my google search but when I searched for it in APT nothig came up
[19:10] <erUSUL> JamesC: already pointed you to the java wiki page ...
[19:10] <JamesC> Yeah, I still have the link up.
[19:11] <erUSUL> !partner
[19:11] <mohadib> is there an easy way to bring down all virtual interfaces?
[19:11] <JusticeZero> I need help troubleshooting wireless on my netbook with 9.04. After a crash, it won't connect.
[19:11] <MarkRich> Hi Everyone, Any idea why the incoming & outgoing server options in Evolution are not selectable?
[19:12] <erUSUL> JamesC: run this in terminal « sudo dd-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner" && sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install sun-java6-jdk »
[19:13] <erUSUL> JamesC: ouch missing a in add-apt-repositorie ....
[19:13] <erUSUL> JamesC: ouch missing a in add-apt-repository ....
[19:13] <dmiles> Hi, everybody. I've implemented my own credentials checkers (classes that zope-implement twisted.cred.checkers.ICredentialsChecker)
[19:13] <dmiles> they seem to have two ways of returning a denial
[19:13] <Pici> dmiles: This is #ubuntu, perhaps you're looking for a different channel.
[19:14] <dmiles> Pici, oooh, crud. You're right
[19:14] <dmiles> I'm sorry, I thought this was #twisted
[19:14] <shcherbak>   /join #chess
[19:14] <JusticeZero> Any suggestions how to figure out what the issue is with my wireless? It sees the router, it tries to connect, it asks for a password, but doesn't connect. other computers connect fine.
[19:15] <JusticeZero> this after the system locked up while trying to copy a lot of files to my home directory.
[19:16] <idhenk> anyone know how to install nvidia 173 driver?
[19:16] <ikonia> idhenk: the drivers available to your ubuntu version are in the hardware drivers tool
[19:17] <JamesC> Wait, erUSUL, should I still run what you gave me?
[19:17] <Scunizi> how do you use a wild card in a cli command?  I'm trying "mogrify -resize 640 Shoe*.jpg and it errors
[19:17] <_mrn_ver_> hi all, i have a problem with grub.i am using ubuntu 10.04 .
[19:17] <ikonia> Scunizi: not all commands will respond to wildcards, what is the error
[19:17] <ikonia> _mrn_ver_: what is the issue ?
[19:18] <erUSUL> JamesC: if you correct the typo you can run it
[19:18] <Alexander_> hi all. Just reinstallled ubuntu. I can find wireless networks but cannot connect. The signal thing goes up and down and eventually ends it saying i"ve been d/c
[19:18] <_mrn_ver_> i installed the ubuntu in windows partition  .for some time it was well.
[19:18] <JamesC> Where is it?
[19:18] <Scunizi> ikonia: "mogrify: unable to open image 'Shoe' : No such file or directory @ blob.c/OpenBlob/2480
[19:18] <_mrn_ver_> but after upgradation  it is showning grub rescue.
[19:18] <_mrn_ver_> what to do?
[19:18] <pixel__> greetings to the ubuntu community! I just joined you, and I dont have any problems ^^
[19:18] <ikonia> Scunizi: looks like that command doesn't like wild cards
[19:18] <yaoza> hi,there
[19:19] <idhenk> I have 8.10 running and I cant install nvidia driver
[19:19] <ikonia> _mrn_ver_: sorry, I don't support wubi installs so can't help
[19:19] <erUSUL> JamesC: ouch missing "a" in add-apt-repository i typed dd-apt-repository  ....
[19:19] <ikonia> idhenk: please stop repeating the same question and listen to the advice given
[19:19] <ikonia> idhenk: the available nvidia drivers are in the hardware driver tool.
[19:19] <Scunizi> ikonia: typically I just put "jpg" and it does the entire directory.. since there are other pic there I don't want to resize I was hopeful :(... thanks.
[19:19] <idhenk> this my first installation
[19:19] <JamesC> erUSUL: ohh!
[19:20] <ikonia> idhenk: any reason you are using 8.10 (unsupported) over 10.04 (current supported)
[19:20] <yaoza> i wanna use multimedia such as mp3,3gp and ...
[19:20] <yaoza> which codec i should install?
[19:20] <ikonia> !codec > yotta911
[19:20] <ikonia> !mp3 > yotta911
[19:20] <IdleOne> yaoza: install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:20] <JamesC> erUSUL :What's it removing?
[19:21] <_mrn_ver_> ikonia: if had installed it in other partitionexcept that of windows and it showed me grub rescue then what to do?
[19:21] <lpjhjdh> so I have a multi display and I'm getting notifications displayed offscreen, can I just give an explicit location?
[19:21] <erUSUL> JamesC: it should not remove anything
[19:21] <ikonia> _mrn_ver_: as I said, I don't support wubi instals
[19:21] <ikonia> installs
[19:21] <yaoza> IdleOne,tnx guy
[19:21] <erUSUL> JamesC: the command only installs the jdk
[19:21] <m4rku5> hey is there a guide for installing ubuntu(-server) as a lxc guest? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LXC and the linked guide ( http://blog.bodhizazen.net/linux/lxc-configure-ubuntu-lucid-containers/ ) dont work for me
[19:21] <Scunizi> ikonia: Actually it does work.. I just was being stupid by not checking which directory I was in.... Must be Monday
[19:21] <IdleOne> yaoza: that should get you pretty much everything you need for media support
[19:21] <JamesC> erUSUL: The following packages will be REMOVED:
[19:21] <JamesC>   linux-headers-2.6.32-21{u} linux-headers-2.6.32-21-generic{u}
[19:21] <ZykoticK9> Scunizi, you could use a "for file in Shoe*; do mogrify -resize 640 $file; done" sorta thing.  Other topic your SSH forwarding still isn't working?
[19:22] <ikonia> Scunizi: nice one, well done
[19:22] <_mrn_ver_> ikonia: i am saying that if i install ubutnu in a new system and after some upgradation it shows grub rescue then what to do?
[19:22] <ikonia> _mrn_ver_: it's a pointless discussion as you ARE using wubi, and wubi/non-wubi installs work different
[19:23] <erUSUL> JamesC: should be packages marked as autoremove for not being necesary any longer. current kernel is 24 21 is old
[19:23] <MarkRich> Hello, would anyone like to answer a question about an evolution install?
[19:23] <Scunizi> ZykoticK9: nope.. tried logging in with ssh via localhost and issuing the $DISPLAY command.. blank line result.. but will have to tackle this later.. working now.
[19:23] <JamesC> erUSUL: so just say yes to remove it?
[19:23] <erUSUL> JamesC: yes
[19:23] <_mrn_ver_> ikonia: ok,i appritiate it. but can  u please tell me the meaning of grub rescue?
[19:23] <ZykoticK9> Scunizi, ok - best of luck.
[19:23] <IdleOne> JamesC: yes, you can remove those
[19:24] <ikonia> _mrn_ver_: it's a shell from the application "grub" that appears when the boot configuration is wrong
[19:24] <Scunizi> ZykoticK9: thanks for the follow up.. I'll chat later if you're around.
[19:24] <JamesC> erUSUL: where did you get the command you gave me to start this?
[19:24] <erUSUL> JamesC: once the instalation is done run « sudo update-alternatives --config java » to make sun's version default
[19:24] <erUSUL> JamesC: my head ?
[19:25] <rpcesar> hello. i have 2 internet-accessable ubuntu systems which are fully up to date. they have no problem working on the internet, but i cannot get them to share files between eachother
[19:25] <erUSUL> JamesC: and a wiki XD
[19:25] <rpcesar> on each computer, in the home directory, i set a folder to be shared
[19:25] <ikonia> rpcesar: probably your router (that connections you to the internet blocking you
[19:25] <rpcesar> it asked to install a service (im guessing samba)
[19:26] <rpcesar> i did that on both, and restarted the OS. I also did a "sudo smbpasswd -a myuser" and set a samba password
[19:26] <JamesC> erUSUL: why am I just sitting at the terms/conditions? How do I "click" ok haha
[19:27] <rpcesar> anyone? need to transfer some disk hddvd images between systems without a drive to boot them otherwise :)
[19:28] <rpcesar> channel still asleep?
[19:28] <rantic> If I created a thread on the forums that I wish to delete how do I go about doing that? Should I just mark it solved because that's the only option I see
[19:28] <Pici> JamesC: press tab to hilight the [ok] button then press enter.
[19:29] <lesh4rk_> Guys, i need from help! i'm having some errors on cyrus that's pop3s[5229]: Fatal error: tls_start_servertls() failed AND imaps[7139]: Fatal error: tls_start_servertls() failed
[19:29] <JamesC> Pici: haha, thank you. I've been sitting here perplexed
[19:29] <MarkRich> Anyone know how to completely remove the program evolution?  I used autoremove but that doesn't do it.  I also removed the .evolution directory.
[19:30] <PigeonCluster> MarkRich: sudo apt-get remove evolution??
[19:31] <JamesC> erUSUL: when I enter that command it says :  nothing to configure, that's good?
[19:31] <_jesse_> hi all, let's say a process is receiving a kill -9 signal from somewhere, would there be a way to track down which process is killing it?
[19:31] <ChesterX> what do i need rpm.bin files for?
[19:31] <MarkRich> Yes, the removes it, but there are obviously configuration files that remain, because no server options are available in the Server Type when I install it, or after I choose them when the program is launched.
[19:31] <dougl> is vdpau enabled by default on the latest ubuntu?
[19:32] <n0wje> ccccc
[19:34] <PigeonCluster> _jesse_: no. it'd just die.
[19:34] <_jesse_> PigeonCluster: right, but I wasn't sure if that might be logged somewhere
[19:34] <afewqs> hey guys. i have a couple of questons. do i need to install an antivirus/firewall? i'm *behind* a fiber optic modm, which, afaik, doesn't have a build in firewall o.o
[19:34] <PigeonCluster> nope
[19:35] <_jesse_> boo
[19:35] <dugan_> Hi all : how to view the list of server selection , on ubuntu server ?
[19:35] <PigeonCluster> _jesse_: realize that signal 9 is "DIE RIGHT NOW"
[19:35] <jrib> dugan_: hmm?
[19:35] <jrib> afewqs: not really, no
[19:35] <puff> I just tried to install curl with "sudo aptitude install curl".  It hung for about 20 minutes. I killed aptitude, rm'd the leftover lockfile from /var/lib/dpkg/lock, and re-ran "sudo aptitude install curl".  It now appears to be hanging again.
[19:35] <dugan_> i mean ... during installation, compare a list of ssh, mail server, and other...
[19:35] <PigeonCluster> _jesse_: it can't be caught, can't be touched - once sent, as soon as the process recieves it, the kernel kills it.
[19:35] <_jesse_> PigeonCluster: right, I know the killed process would die automatically, but I wasn't sure if the OS kept track of such thing, or if there was a way I could tell it to do that
[19:36] <PigeonCluster> _jesse_: ahhh now I understand. it's actually a good idea. why don't you suggest it in - for instance - ##kernel ?
[19:36] <_jesse_> PigeonCluster: sure, I'll jump in there and see if they have any ideas, thanks :)
[19:36] <_jesse_> PigeonCluster: do you literally mean ##kernel? or ##debian e.g.
[19:37] <PigeonCluster> ##kernel. it's a channel here.
[19:37] <dugan_> jrib: i mean ... during installation, compare a list of ssh, mail server, and other...
[19:37] <afewqs> jrib: sweet, thanks  a lot:P one more thing. would a creative PD1110 web cam work on linux? i tried googling for linux drivers, but nada
[19:37] <jrib> !webcam | afewqs
[19:37] <jrib> afewqs: no idea
[19:38] <_jesse_> PigeonCluster: k, thanks
[19:38] <PigeonCluster> afewqs: it's a matter of whether the video4linux system supports it. see the links.
[19:38] <dugan_> jrib : i mean ... during installation, compare a list of ssh, mail server, and other...
[19:38] <jrib> dugan_: you are in the install now?
[19:38] <PigeonCluster> _jesse_: btw, you may get pointed somewhere else, I don't really know where the right place is to send you
[19:38] <dugan_> no
[19:38] <PigeonCluster> !repeat | dugan_
[19:38] <jrib> dugan_: do you just want to see the screen you saw during install?
[19:38] <afewqs> cheers guys
[19:39] <darsul> the onlt way I can see the sphere or cylinder on my netbook is if I hold down ctrl+alt and an arrow key is there any way to get ti to stay up and view the desktops  in the sphere mode?
[19:39] <Owlship> Hi, after receiving a disk read error while trying to dual boot ubuntu 9.10 and win 7 on two different hard drives, I used windows' recovery console to /fixmbr and now my linux install just says "missing operating system" is there a way to reset this in grub from, say.. the install disk?
[19:39] <dugan_> jrib : yes---
[19:39] <jrib> dugan_: tasksel
[19:39] <dugan_> ok
[19:40] <PigeonCluster> darsul: alt+click I think?
[19:40] <dugan_> jrib : is not the same but is perfect! 8-D
[19:40] <PigeonCluster> darsul: not 100% sure. it can be set from compizconfig.
[19:40] <dugan_> jrib : thank a lot ! 8-D
[19:41] <jrib> dugan_: no problem, you know about APT though?
[19:42] <darsul> been working with compiz..... still can't get it
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[19:42] <FloodBot2> niko-: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:42] <Priceyy> THIS SPAM IS BEING DOWN WITH L3 FULLY OPEN PROXIES! GOOGLE THIS CLIENT'S IP IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE US. TELL FREENODE STAFF TO FIX THEIR PORTSCANNER. Priceyy padeBoi rgs britta Gray5 kiamo __wolverine T260G fruitwerks_ mtx_init zkriesse catojo oln walmis adam17 flupke Roland T3CHKOMMIE Kody JamesC Wursti fruitwerks Thecake zoiss Peter52 darsul Terminator KE1HA TxMatt C-S-B_ imlad macode PhiSyX lungan n0wje mEck0 multi_io_ afewqs CAP2432 syonzet demigod_ Owlship
[19:43] <kiamo> what part of the system theme controls the look of the scroll bars?
[19:43] <dugan_> jrib : no... what is this ?
[19:43] <jrib> !apt | dugan_
[19:43] <fruitwerks_> I am having a few issues with networking. I have a static LAN IP and DHCP from the ISP. When I logout of my GUI or when the screen lock turns on, my LAN NIC drops the IP, how can I get around this?
[19:43] <dugan_> hoo... yes, sorry ... I know...
[19:43] <asd-askd> THIS SPAM IS BEING DOWN WITH L3 FULLY OPEN PROXIES! GOOGLE THIS CLIENT'S IP IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE US. TELL FREENODE STAFF TO FIX THEIR PORTSCANNER. barbarinfourchu Elaine iredux nisstyre65 localhost falcon56215 piglit runge xiven Dannyboy DBO_ ttl- static^ magical_trevsky RoosterJuice jman_ jman kujablak Whitor Oer muellisoft OpenSourcedNick1 ZNC_DoubleString le0 ssureshot SqRt7744 ring1 mrsiebel Linden940 jiga Morten_ cs278 khamael sidolin schmidt0r han
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[19:43] <asd-askd> THIS SPAM IS BEING DOWN WITH L3 FULLY OPEN PROXIES! GOOGLE THIS CLIENT'S IP IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE US. TELL FREENODE STAFF TO FIX THEIR PORTSCANNER. enmand_ pdelgallego bazhang patholio industrial radioman-lt Dr_Willis acuster talmai_ hagr noolness spreda Soul_Sample corpsicle bentob0x kioko ganja andrewl NMFTM Wojo Rangasamee ferret_ benpro Shaun flodin darrenb |friTTe| _s1gma sacarlson ineol danielmx1 OkropNick ^Willie^ TimeRider iViLe _GoRDoN_ sl[A]cke
[19:43] <FloodBot2> asd-askd: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:43] <aetaric> oh god
[19:43] <Antonis> Oh I'm a celebrity :p
[19:44] <AaronMT> god damn pings
[19:44] <PigeonCluster> tell FloodBot2 to stop unquieting
[19:44] <PigeonCluster> !language | AaronMT
[19:44] <Pici> !feeding the troll
[19:44] <maco> PigeonCluster: why?
[19:44] <logyati> wtf!
[19:44] <ikonia> logyati: calm your language down please.
[19:44] <IdleOne> let's get back to support please.
[19:44] <maco> PigeonCluster: they're different users each time and have already been removed from the server
[19:44] <PigeonCluster> maco: oh. ok then.
[19:44]  * fruitwerks_ yes.. I have network trouble :(
[19:44] <dugan_> thanks to all ... bye !
[19:44] <bikcmp> Hi, I'm trying to do a action with apt, however it seems to be... like, stuck trying to get dependancies.
[19:45] <bikcmp> sudo apt-get -f install doesn't fix it either.
[19:45] <PigeonCluster> bikcmp: paste of where it halted?
[19:45] <adam17> What's your network troubles?
[19:45] <afewqs> jrib & PigeonCluster: thanks a lot guys. it seems that the web cam works out of the box. even though it's pretty old <3
[19:45] <bikcmp> sure, one minute
[19:45] <ikonia> bikcmp: can you expand on the issue and what you're trying to install
[19:45] <jrib> afewqs: cool
[19:45] <PigeonCluster> afewqs: especially because it's pretty old?
[19:45] <bikcmp> ikonia: anything at all
[19:45] <afewqs> exactly :3
[19:45] <bikcmp> let me pastebin it, one min
[19:46] <fruitwerks_> adam17: just need persistent connections for my wired NICs
[19:46] <bikcmp> http://pastebin.com/ZyGiDtH9
[19:46] <mgraf> where is the xorg.conf file located at in 10.04?
[19:46] <bikcmp> libungif4g is always trying to install, but fails
[19:46] <ikonia> bikcmp: ok - the error message is quite clear
[19:46] <PigeonCluster> mgraf: xorg is smart now, xorg.conf is usualyl not there
[19:46] <ikonia> bikcmp: it's not just hanging, it's giving you an error explaining the issue
[19:47] <PigeonCluster> mgraf: if you want to create it, put it in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:47] <bikcmp> ikonia: oh, i didn't even look at that; even if that was resolved, it would still try to fix libungif4g
[19:47] <mgraf> bah, so how do i change my keyboard layout from us to dvorak in my x sessions?
[19:47] <bikcmp> one minute
[19:47] <lesh4rk_> logyati: weak!
[19:47] <OpenSourcedNick1> I use to think that if something is pointless it wouldn't have been done,
[19:47] <ikonia> bikcmp:  no it's not
[19:47] <ikonia> bikcmp: resolve the error first
[19:47] <OpenSourcedNick1> I got proved wrong twice: War, and now this spam thing :I
[19:47] <PigeonCluster> mgraf: system->preferences->keyboard in the gnome install
[19:48] <bikcmp> k, it's trying to do the libungif4g thing again
[19:48] <ikonia> bikcmp: please pastebin the output
[19:48] <bikcmp> ikonia: doing so right now
[19:49] <bikcmp> http://pastebin.com/6KtkD8AP
[19:49] <fruitwerks_> here is my network config http://pastebin.com/TBXybGB4
[19:49] <delinquentme> Question with Regex and the ubuntu search ( applications > accessories > search for files...) im trying to find a file which contains both the strings "shadow" as well as "height" ... whats the regex string id put into "name matches regular expression" to get this
[19:49] <PigeonCluster> is there a way to rebind laptop special mouse buttons? this laptop has an arrow pad in the middle of the two mouse normal buttons, I'd like all four of the arrows on that pad to be MMB
[19:49] <ikonia> bikcmp: again - look at the error message
[19:49] <puff> It appears my apt is in a somewhat wedged state. Can anybody help me?  http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/vZ7gn1uE
[19:49] <bikcmp> ikonia: yep.  What should I do to resolve that?
[19:50] <Elshar-> Hey, anyone know off the top of their head how to get the taskbar to group multiple instances of the same app?
[19:50] <ikonia> bikcmp: look at your repos !
[19:50] <ikonia> bikcmp: you have a dapper archive and a lucid archive in there
[19:50] <Elshar-> Ie, if I open 5 Firefox windows, I'd only have one firefox thing in the taskbar?
[19:50] <PigeonCluster> puff: bad paste
[19:50] <ikonia> bikcmp: you can't mix and match like that
[19:50] <ikonia> bikcmp: your system will be totally unusable
[19:50] <lesclassic> do I need to be connected to the internet to set up my wireless?
[19:51] <tasslehoff> I have problems with the nm-applet on my Ubuntu-install. Whenever I try to launch it I see a quick flash of something in the notification area, and then it's gone. No error messages in the terminal, but it says "DEBUG: old state indicates that this was not a disconnect"
[19:51] <PigeonCluster> lesclassic: what do you mean set up your wireless? on what device are you setting up wireless?
[19:51] <xangua> Elshar-: right clic in the window list applet >preferences
[19:51] <Scans> Hello, can i make desktop background 3d?
[19:51] <puff> PigeonCluster: Repasting.
[19:51] <puff> delinquentme: If it's posix regex, probably something like shadow|height
[19:51] <adam17> Scans: what do you mean 3d?
[19:51] <PigeonCluster> Scans: what do you mean, make it 3D?
[19:51] <PigeonCluster> adam17: dang, beat me to it
[19:52] <Elshar-> xangua, Awesome, thanks. :)
[19:52] <Lok> does anybody know how I can enqueue songs into rhythmbox by using the terminal even if the song is not in the library yet?
[19:52] <rantic> Anyone want bad company 2 for free? I just want to fix this small issue so bad : (
[19:52] <tasslehoff> Tried deleting .gconf/nm-applet, but that didn't help
[19:52] <ikonia> rantic: please don't offer illegal products
[19:52] <PigeonCluster> Lok: 'rhythmbox [file]'
[19:52] <puff> PigeonCluster: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/xYgWBaHm
[19:52] <rantic> ikonia: If offering my EA account to them is illegal, sorry : /
[19:52] <PigeonCluster> rantic: if anyone knows how to help you and feels like it at the time they will.
[19:53] <ikonia> rantic: it is illegal - stop now
[19:53] <heizmann> Hi everybody, I've a problem concerning to the installation of the mplayer subversion (with x264 support)
[19:53] <ikonia> bikcmp: do you see/understand the error
[19:53] <ikonia> heizmann: subversion products are not ubuntu pacakges, talk to the guys in #mplayer
[19:53] <Scans> i mean a Movable picture
[19:53] <PigeonCluster> Scans: so you mean a background that dynamically changes?
[19:53] <heizmann> ikonia : thanks :) see u
[19:54] <puff> PigeonCluster: That's all one shell session, I added extra blank lines to make it easier to follow.
[19:54] <Scans> PigeonCluster:no Animated like a 3d movie
[19:54] <adam17> Scans: so like Win7 dreamscape?
[19:55] <Scans> yes
[19:55] <adam17> Scans: try this http://www.winmatrix.com/forums/index.php?/topic/15058-dreamscene-for-linux-screensaver-as-desktop-wallpaper/page__pid__148902#entry148902 it adds a screensaver as a background
[19:55] <fruitwerks_> can someone take a look at my network config?
[19:56] <Scans> i saw in website theme named matrix with matrix backgtound moving
[19:56] <tasslehoff> What can I delete to start with a clean "gnome-panel-setup"?
[19:56] <Lok> PigeonCluster: This only works if the song is already added to the library
[19:56] <Scans> adam17: thanks alot
[19:56] <PigeonCluster> Lok: well have you thought about using a less crap media player? no offense.
[19:57] <zpm> I have tried unsuccessfully for the last 10 hours to setup OpenVPN
[19:57] <erUSUL> !resetpanels | tasslehoff
[19:57] <fruitwerks_> is this a help channel?
[19:57] <puff> PigeonCluster: I reinstalled to lucid recently, finally got around to installing amarok again, and, wow... it is a mess.
[19:57] <PigeonCluster> fruitwerks_: it is.
[19:57] <tasslehoff> erUSUL: thanks
[19:57] <puff> PigeonCluster: So I'm stuck using rhythmbox.
[19:57] <Lok> PigeonCluster: No, not really, since rhythmbox is totally fine for me, except of this problem and the iPod - Playlists .... which one would you suggest
[19:57] <Julian384> Booted Ubuntu 9.10: ended up in a terminal with the filsystem mounted read-only. Syslog shows [16.####] EXT4-fs (sda2): internal journal on sda2:8   [16.####] EXT4-fs error (device sda2): ext4_lookup: deleted inode referenced: 81767
[19:58] <kyle_> any help with PiTiVi ??
[19:58] <PigeonCluster> puff: I know. I don't recommend rhythmbox or amarok. lately I've been recommending exaile.
[19:58] <zpm> I cannot get my OpenVPN server running on 192.168.1.222 to give clients a 10.x.x.x address
[19:58] <PigeonCluster> Lok: not sure; I don't actually use it much
[19:58] <Julian384> I asume reboot wont work.
[19:58] <zpm> I am SOL
[19:58] <erUSUL> Julian384: verify/check the partition from a livecd
[19:58] <PigeonCluster> Julian384: oh wow.
[19:58] <puff> PigeonCluster: any suggestions on my curl install problem?
[19:58] <kyle_> zpm: any NAT ??
[19:58] <zpm> yes sir
[19:58] <erUSUL> Julian384: it loos like filesystem corruption
[19:58] <puff> PigeonCluster: I can't try exaile until I fix my apt, sigh.
[19:58] <zpm> 192.168.1.1 router/internet gateway
[19:59] <zpm> port forwarding to port 1194
[19:59] <zpm> on the server
[19:59] <PigeonCluster> puff: not sure. try force-removing the offending packages with dpkg (instead of apt)
[19:59] <tasslehoff> Hm. The panels got reset like I wanted, but the nm-applet still won't work
[19:59] <dendrite_06> o/ hello everybody. im having trouble installing ms dotnet2.0 using latest version of wine and ubuntu 10.04.  any help would be great. installation just says it fails
[19:59] <PigeonCluster> a -f on dpkg should actually force it, error or not
[19:59] <PigeonCluster> unlike on apt
[19:59] <zpm> the configs I have seen so far are overly complex
[19:59] <zpm> and do not work
[20:00] <zpm> I have managed at one point to give users a 10.x.x.x address
[20:00] <zpm> but the gateway was completely screwed up
[20:00] <zpm> and nothing was connectable
[20:00] <Julian384> booting live CD
[20:00] <puff> PigeonCluster: Okay, I'll gve that a shot.
[20:00] <zpm> dendrite, have you tried latest wine?
[20:00] <zpm> dendrite, perhaps Wine SVN might have a fix
[20:00] <dendrite> yes i have
[20:00] <zpm> svn?
[20:01] <rantic> Hi everyone, I created a thread for my issue (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9785482#post9785482) and all I know for sure is the hang is caused by the memory card reader. Unlike the others with my problem I will never need it, so if anyone knows how I can disable/ignore it during boot that would also help me out greatly.
[20:01] <dendrite> no ihavent. ok i might try that. has anyone else had problems installing dotnet 2.0 on ubuntu x86_64?
[20:01] <erUSUL> rantic: if you know the driver it uses you can blacklist it
[20:01] <erUSUL> !blacklist > rantic
[20:02] <zpm> dendrite, I installed windows 7 x64 in ubuntu with VirtualBox
[20:02] <zpm> if wine fails, I simply use the virtualized environment
[20:02] <Pici> dendrite: I think thats something you can install with winetricks.  I'm not sure how to do it off the top of my head, the folks in #winehq should be able to give you some pointers.
[20:02] <Julian384> PigeonCluster: Julian384: oh wow.     This sound bad...
[20:02] <zpm> dendrite, the only real downside to this is the amount of RAM needed to work efficiently
[20:03] <zpm> otherwise its a win-win scenario
[20:03] <tasslehoff> Anyway to scan for wireless networks without nm-applet?
[20:04] <rantic> erUSUL: This is actually my first experience with Ubuntu/Linux. I'm not even sure where to find out what driver is being used. I've been googling all afternoon but I'm at a loss. I'm reading bits and pieces of the Ubuntu book where I can but it's not too basic to be relevant to my situation just yet
[20:04] <erUSUL> tasslehoff: when you click in the applet it should list the networks
[20:04] <tasslehoff> erUSUL: problem is that the nm-applet is missing. if I try to launch it I see a quick flash in the notification area, and nothing more
[20:04] <lesclassic> how can I set up ubuntu after install without the internet?
[20:05] <erUSUL> rantic: maybe takin a look at your "dmesg helps. paste it ina pastebin
[20:05] <erUSUL> !paste | tasslehoff
[20:05] <dendrite> Pici. yea its simply "sh winetricks" and you get a list of options. but i've tried that. i have dotnet 1.1 installed. but for some reason 2.0 always fails no matter if i use winetricks or do a manual download/install
[20:05] <Scans> guys how i go to this dir ~/.config/autostart/glmatrix.desktop
[20:06] <erUSUL> tasslehoff: you can scan in command line « sudo iwlist wlan0 scan »
[20:06] <cccasket> rantic: did you do this yet? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9240841#post9240841
[20:06] <cccasket> blacklisting aye
[20:06] <zpm> dendrite, my vote goes to virtualization -- good luck
[20:06] <Julian384> The glowing Ubuntu logo is greate... Especially when it stops glowing (third broken Live CD)
[20:06] <erUSUL> tasslehoff: sorry the paste factoid was not for you
[20:06] <erUSUL> !paste | rantic
[20:07] <tasslehoff> erUSUL: oh yeah. I'm gonna paste everything I can find now ;-)
[20:07] <caotic> I have seen in a couple of webpages that you can aadminstrate service in ubuntu by using System > Administration > Service. How ever the instalation I just made of ubunto 10.4 doesnt have such an option ? was this changed, If so, is there another way to manage services other than stating them manually at /etc/init.d ?
[20:07] <rantic> erUSUL: I saw that thread but the idea of having another error message pop up in it's place just seems like a partial fix. I don't like the idea that it goes from broken to half broken : (
[20:07] <_jesse_> which package in ubuntu is ptrace in?
[20:07] <cccasket> rantic: apparently you need to blacklist mmc_core, sdhci, sdhci-pci. the link above has the how-to
[20:07] <adalal> hi, quick question, all the home folders in a computer can be read by other users and not written to. What I want is where the home folders by default cannot be read by other users... how do i get this done? i know i can manually change all permissions, but I want the default permissions to be 700 for all home folders..
[20:08] <cccasket> rantic: blacklisting will stop the bad driver from being loaded
[20:08] <tasslehoff> erUSUL: the command line scan found the networks. any way to connect from the commandline as well?
[20:08] <cccasket> rantic: or the good driver on the bad hardware, as the case may be ;)
[20:08] <erUSUL> rantic: paste your dmesg... « sudo aptitude install pastebinit && dmesg | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com »
[20:08] <erUSUL> tasslehoff: if you use wpa2 there is no easy way...
[20:09] <lesh4rk_> hey! someone can help me? i'm using centos but the peoples on centos irc can't help me, so i was search from help here.. my problem are on Cyrus errors "Fatal error: tls_start_servertls() failed" on the imap and pop3 and imaps TLS negotiation failed: localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1], please! someone can help me?
[20:09] <erUSUL> tasslehoff: run nm-applet from command line maybe it says why it exists
[20:09] <rantic> erUSUL: Yep I'm just sending everything to my email, i've been talking on the Windows partition this whole time. Brb I'll boot on Ubuntu
[20:09] <maco> lesh4rk_: we dont support centos here
[20:09] <TerrenceKJ> Hi all
[20:09] <cccasket> erUSUL: rantic posted an error that matched exactly what others are seeing on his hardware
[20:09] <cccasket> erUSUL, sounds like he just needs to blacklist the modules
[20:09] <GOspeedGO> ciao
[20:10] <cccasket> good luck
[20:10] <TerrenceKJ> I'd like to know from someone using Ubuntu studio, whether the multimedia experience is better than on the standard Ubuntu 10.4 version
[20:10] <lesh4rk_> maco: i know but maybe someone know that's error and maybe help me..
[20:10] <tasslehoff> erUSUL: nope. it just flashes something in the notification area and disappears.
[20:10] <maco> lesh4rk_: try in #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:10] <datacrusher> how do i reinstall gdm ? apt-get reinstall gdm ?
[20:10] <securityxxxpert> anybody been running into the error "no init found." "try passing init-=bootarg".
[20:10] <maco> lesh4rk_: or ##linux
[20:11] <lesh4rk_> maco: that's ok! thx!
[20:11] <rantic> FTWl0l!
[20:11] <rantic> That's embarassing that is part of my password ...
[20:11] <erUSUL> cccasket: so just blacklist sdhci ?
[20:11] <cccasket> erUSUL and mmc_core and sdhci-pci, apparently. confirmed fix for several people in the thread he linked
[20:12] <cccasket> rantic, yes it's ugly but it's what we have
[20:12] <wasnik> hi
[20:12] <wasnik> i am trying to connect to wired connection using ubuntu
[20:12] <wizzle> can someone give me a tutorial how to change my private ip?
[20:12] <rantic> cccasket: Fair enough, beggers can't be choosers.
[20:13] <securityxxxpert> wizzle:  read up on static ip's
[20:13] <wasnik> i have wicd
[20:13] <rantic> erUSUL: Did you still want my dmesg output?
[20:13] <wasnik> and cannot connect to wired
[20:13] <wasnik> connection
[20:13] <cccasket> rantic, true that. :)
[20:13] <axisys> what is recommended paritioning for a large disk.. i have a 750GB hard drive in my laptop..
[20:13] <erUSUL> rantic: cccasket says that blacklist is the solution.
[20:13] <puff> Well, "sudo dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq curl" seemed to do the trick for reinstallnig.
[20:14] <puff> Er, for removing curl.  Now let's try to install it again, and see if the original problem reccurs.
[20:14] <plouffe> I tried to run the ubuntu live cd on an old Dell Inspiron laptop, but the mouse is not recognized. It works fine on windows though on that computer. What could be the problem?
[20:14] <puff> Bleah.... it looks like it's hanging at "unpacknig curl" again.
[20:14] <wasnik> hello there
[20:14] <cccasket> rantic, the next time you upgrade, say to 10.10, the installer should remove your changes and if the driver works better with your hardware, the ugly kludge will be no longer needed
[20:14] <wasnik> could anyone help me
[20:14] <wasnik> i amtrying to connect to a wired connection using wicd
[20:14] <puff> Anybody have any clues here?
[20:14] <slow-motion> hi
[20:15] <rantic> cccasket: I actually had Ubuntu 9.10 for a few weeks on this same machine and never saw the error. So I'm definitely hopeful.
[20:15] <wasnik>  i amtrying to connect to a wired connection using wicd
[20:15] <axisys> should I do just / and swap ?
[20:15] <wasnik> i am trying to connect to wired internet using wicd could anyone help
[20:16] <cccasket> rantic, sometimes there are odd regressions like that. yeah. you could also search Launchpad for a status update for 10.10
[20:16] <cccasket> !launchpad
[20:16] <wasnik>  i am trying to connect to wired internet using wicd could anyone help
[20:16] <puff> Other than --verbose, is there any way to get more info from aptitude on what's going wrong?
[20:17] <securityxxxpert> rantic:  you know how to fix the "no init found."  " passing init=bootarg".
[20:17] <puff> rantic: Yeah, I saw some serious problems with wireless when I upgraded from edge to lucid.
[20:17] <puff> Er, edgy to lucid.
[20:17] <wasnik>  i am trying to connect to wired internet using wicd could anyone help
[20:17] <TerrenceKJ> Hi all I've got Ubuntu 10.4 installed. I use this mostly for multimedia and web browsing - Will I gain anything by using ubuntu studio instead
[20:17] <Scans> adam17: u still there?
[20:17] <whitepheasant> Can someone show me how to use a sudo command that will bypass the password prompt?         (Of course I'm hoping I can just "PRE ENTER" my password whist, using the command).        So this can be a one time only use of sudo.
[20:17] <securityxxxpert> wasnik:  dude stop asking the same question.  Open up a terminal and type in dhclient with your ethernet cord plugged in
[20:17] <rantic> securityxxxpert: Fix the what? I don't remember seeing that.
[20:17] <erUSUL> whitepheasant: what are you trying to do ?
[20:17] <cccasket> whitepheasant: same machine or network machine?
[20:18] <GOspeedGO> !list
[20:18] <erUSUL> rantic: did you geon ahead blacklisting ?
[20:18] <securityxxxpert> rantic: basically I can't boot into my operating system Ubuntu 10.04.  I pass the enter your encryption passphrase, and then it drops me to taht
[20:18] <securityxxxpert> that*
[20:18] <Julian384>  old live CD dose not support ext4 :-/
[20:18] <GOspeedGO> !list
[20:18] <Scans> how i make Screensaver as Desktop Wallpaper?
[20:18] <Guest51596> how do i change the keyboard lay out to US standard with out total format,
[20:19] <cccasket> scans - can't you pass xscreensaver -root or something like that
[20:19] <rantic> erUSUL: I'm trying to track down that post you showed me before to actually do it haha, I guess the dmesg stuff is no longer needed either?
[20:19] <Guest51596> stuck with CAN french
[20:19] <wizzle> securityxxxpert, where is it?
[20:19] <lesh4rk_> maco: in the moment nobody help me in #linux.. maybe can you help me?
[20:19] <erUSUL> rantic: comment 8 here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/323159?comments=all
[20:19] <rantic> securityxxxpert: I know less about Ubuntu and/or Linux then you do, I'm sorry.
[20:19] <securityxxxpert> rantic:  no big man
[20:19] <wizzle> securityxxxpert, is that at help menu?
[20:20] <maco> lesh4rk_: idont know the answer
[20:20] <securityxxxpert> wizzle:  Is what at the help menu?
[20:20] <Scans> cccasket: what do u mean
[20:20] <whitepheasant> Trying to make a double click "instant start up" desktop thing. Usually, I make a file, type in "terminal commands inside", then save it and mark the file with permission to execute. (Those type of things will not need to run as root, but now I have this apache server that always bugs me to put in a password after I run a terminal command like this:       sudo  /opt/lampp/lampp startapache
[20:21] <wizzle> securityxxxpert, static ip, u told me to read it
[20:21] <whitepheasant> SO i just want to "double click and forget".          This would be "same machine", I'm not doing anything over the network.
[20:21] <cccasket> whitepheasant: you can set up passwordless sudo for specific commands only
[20:21] <securityxxxpert> wizzle yeah man that's what you need to read on
[20:22] <securityxxxpert> it woudl be in your router config
[20:22] <lesh4rk_> maco: ok! but i can search from help here? or it's wrong? because i need from simple help, nothing much. i can?
[20:22] <tasslehoff> erUSUL: hmmm. I deleted the two lines about eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces, and the applet is back...
[20:22] <erUSUL> rantic: you just add three lines to the file
[20:22] <jrib> whitepheasant: why don't you just use the apache in the repositories?
[20:22] <tasslehoff> (after a reboot)
[20:22] <cccasket> whitepheasant: basically whitelist your startup script
[20:22] <maco> lesh4rk_: no, only ubuntu stuff is on topic here, sorry
[20:22] <rantic> erUSUL: Yep done, I'm going to reboot and hope everything goes Ok. Thanks guys and brb
[20:22] <erUSUL> tasslehoff: weird; nm should ignore ifaces listed there
[20:22] <lesh4rk_> maco: no problem! bye!
[20:22] <cccasket> whitepheasant: or just make your dev server owned by a non admin user
[20:23] <dendrite> zpm: got it working. installed the wine 1.3 beta and all is fine
[20:23] <whitepheasant> I'm using "Xampp" because it's short, simple, easy and too the point. It's even portable and I'm not runnng a serious webserver. I just "unzip my xampp download" and test my PHP webpage scripts.
[20:23] <jrib> whitepheasant: it's probably harder to install and you don't get automatic security updates
[20:23] <galvao> boa tarde,
[20:24] <erUSUL> !br | galvao
[20:24] <cccasket> whitepheasant: actually, i misspoke - changing owner won't help, because you need to bind to a privileged port unless you change from port 80
[20:24] <rantic> erUSUL: Unfortunately it now hangs with the black screen slightly longer then before and I have no message.
[20:24] <cccasket> whitepheasant: you will find support a lot easier with the ubuntu supplied apache/php/mysql as jrib said
[20:25] <erUSUL> rantic: :/ then maybe we need to take a look at the dmesg...
[20:25] <whitepheasant> Hmm, using certain ports makes the apps bug me for passies?
[20:25] <pure_hate> ikonia, ping
[20:25] <rantic> erUSUL: It's entirely possibly mine is different from their's, it's just that the forum messages about what happens to them on boot sounded bang on. Also because the message flickers so quickly I could only pick up that one "Uknown controller" piece of it
[20:25] <erUSUL> whitepheasant: ports under 1024 are restricted. the ones above are not.
[20:26] <cccasket> whitepheasant: yes. try changing the port to a 5 digit high port, see if it recognizes that it doesn't need root privileges
[20:26] <cccasket> whitepheasant: i know nothing of xampp's control structure
[20:26] <sergio__> salve
[20:26] <ikonia> pure_hate: you called
[20:26] <securityxxxpert> erUSUL: are you familar with the error I was talking about
[20:26] <whitepheasant> Ah okay. Changing the port number is what I can do.
[20:26] <pure_hate> ikonia, Can I pm you with a question?
[20:26] <ikonia> pure_hate: sure sure, any time
[20:26] <whitepheasant> Tahnks, I'll give that a shot.
[20:27] <Humle91> hey, anybody here that has experince with transmission remote gui in ubuntu 8.04
[20:27] <dougl> is vdpau enabled by default on the latest ubuntu?
[20:27] <SLierFox> Hi all having trouble booting ubuntu on a toshiba satellite 1130 can anyone help me ?
[20:27] <jrib> Humle91: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[20:28] <dougl> err if nvidia drivers are installed?
[20:28] <erUSUL> securityxxxpert: no init found? that means that either 1) grub passed the wrong root option to the kernel ( the wrong partition ) 2) the filesystem in the partition is hosed/messed up and init ( is a program ) is not there anymore / corrupt
[20:28] <rantic> erUSUL: Nothing shows up like "Unknown etc etc etc..." do I need to delete those blacklists I made, reboot and dmesg again? http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/9iu3ic1v
[20:28] <Pici> dougl: Not to my knowledge. iirc, there is a vlc ppa that has it enabled.
[20:28] <erUSUL> rantic: no just post the dmesg of the current boot
[20:28] <MichealH> !ask | sl
[20:28] <ceej> hey all, so I have http://pastie.textmate.org/private/htgn0nxw4igawaqkqcok9w how would i change the default size of the xterm?
[20:28] <MichealH> Oops
[20:29] <MichealH> !ask | SLierFox
[20:29] <securityxxxpert> erUSUL:  Yeah that's what I thought about.  ANy suggestions?  I already booted into a different distro's live cd and ran fsck -f /dev/sda1
[20:29] <Humle91> how do i update transmission from 1.22 to newest version in ubuntu 8.04 ?
[20:29] <rantic> erUSUL: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/9iu3ic1v
[20:29] <erUSUL> securityxxxpert: check grub config? maybe uuid's changed ?
[20:29] <dougl> Pici, thanks
[20:29] <SLierFox> what more can i put than that MichealH?
[20:29] <SLierFox> Hi all having trouble booting ubuntu on a toshiba satellite 1130 can anyone help me ?
[20:30] <SLierFox> Just blank screen after ubuntu logo and dots ?
[20:30] <MichealH> SLierFox: Thats better :-)
[20:30] <securityxxxpert> erUSUL: got a link on how to do that? Never messed around with grub to much
[20:30] <securityxxxpert> erUSUL:  I know for a fact i can mount /dev/sda1 though
[20:30] <seidos> SLierFox, you might want to try the LTS version
[20:30] <erUSUL> securityxxxpert: and everything seems to be there ?
[20:31] <SLierFox> seidos what is the lts ver ?
[20:31] <Raydiation> why does flash work so well in ubuntu?
[20:31] <sergio__> salve
[20:31] <seidos> SLierFox, 8.04 hardy heron i believe
[20:31] <Raydiation> i can even watch fullscreen yt vids
[20:31] <sergio__> !list
[20:31] <securityxxxpert> erUSUL:  from what I can tell everything is there.  My guess is the uid's changed or something or the root partition isn't correct, but I can't get root to edit the grub file
[20:31] <seidos> Raydiation, talented hard working developers?
[20:31] <SLierFox> seidos is that still supported ?
[20:32] <seidos> SLierFox, good question.
[20:32] <Raydiation> seidos: all other distros have problems with flash
[20:32] <seidos> Raydiation, they must not support non-free flash plugins
[20:33] <MichealH> seidos: The current lts is 10.04
[20:33] <erUSUL> securityxxxpert: you will have to take a look at /boot/grub/grub.cfg and see if it passes the correct uuid to the kernel « sudo blkid  » is the command to find out the uuids of your partitions
[20:33] <MichealH> Not 8.10
[20:33] <SLierFox> MichealH so what is the LTs version compared to the desktop ver ?
[20:34] <MichealH> !lts | SLierFox
[20:34] <securityxxxpert> erUSUL:  Does having the disc encryption option change anything
[20:34] <erUSUL> securityxxxpert: really dunno; never used it myself
[20:34] <SLierFox> so the desktop version isnt the lts ver ? im confused
[20:35] <discozohan> should i mirror swap for raid1 for system ? Or how should partitions look like ?
[20:35] <seidos> SLierFox, sorry, i confused matters.  8.04 used to be the Long term support (LTS) version, but now 10.04 is.  my thinking is the problem is probably with the kernel and your video driver.
[20:35] <securityxxxpert> erUSUL:  when I mounted the /dev/sda1 it shows me what looks to be kernel files.  As well as a grub one, but when I open the grub one in nano it's blank
[20:35] <MichealH> SLierFox: The Desktop Version which id the one you will use by standard is supported for 3 years
[20:35] <seidos> SLierFox, which is why i recommended trying 8.04 (different kernel).
[20:35] <MichealH> seidos: :-)
[20:36] <rantic> erUSUL: No luck
[20:36] <erUSUL> securityxxxpert: what file did you open? /boot/grub/grub.cfg ? /boot/grub/menu.lst is not used anymore
[20:36] <erUSUL> rantic: :/
[20:37] <adampiek> Hey guys, I've got a problem...
[20:37] <securityxxxpert> erUSUL:  I did this  mount /dev/sda1 /media/root
[20:37] <MichealH> !ask | adampiek
[20:37] <Gobgrot> Can anyone help? Brand new user and Im having a problem. One of my hard drives is no longer showing up in the file manager
[20:37] <seidos> SLierFox, honestly, i am guessing only a developer could help you with your problem.  i would be surprised if i am wrong.  sounds like a bug between your video adapter and the kernel
[20:37] <securityxxxpert> ErUSUL:  when I cd'd to /media/root and did ls is all it said was grub.  Want a paste bin?
[20:37] <SLierFox> MichealH/ seidos ok so as the laptop is using a i855 gpu cant i just change the 'quiet splash' command and tell it which to use ?
[20:37] <erUSUL> securityxxxpert: wont hurt
[20:38] <adampiek> Well, when I burn a file to a DVD-RW disc, it says the disc burned successfully, but when I check the disc, it's blank...
[20:38] <MichealH> SLierFox: Maybe
[20:38] <MichealH> I dunno
[20:38] <MichealH> SLierFox: As seidos I think filing a bug at launchpad will be vest
[20:38] <MichealH> *best
[20:39] <MichealH> !bug > SLierFox
[20:39] <ceej> so I have http://pastie.textmate.org/private/htgn0nxw4igawaqkqcok9w how would i change the default size of the xterm?
[20:39] <rantic> erUSUL: That's not a smiley : (
[20:40] <Makuseru> Hi, im having some problems, I've got no sound over hdmi. Video works fine, volume is set where it should be on the tv im outputting to, i have vlc set for hdmi output, but i get no sound. When i run the "test" in multimedia for the hdmi output device i hear nothing. How can i get audio over hdmi working?
[20:40] <securityxxxpert> erUSUL:  http://pastebin.com/RKgpcpRc
[20:40] <adampiek> Well, when I burn a file to a DVD-RW disc, it says the disc burned successfully, but when I check the disc, it's blank...	
[20:40] <rantic> erUSUL: I just don't understand what could be causing this ><. It didn't occur on Ubuntu 9.10 and it didn't happen on LInux MInt 9 which as far as I can tell was based on 10.04
[20:41] <erUSUL> securityxxxpert: it looks like you mounted /boot/ not root /
[20:41] <SLierFox> MichealH i had this problem installing Mint and guessing they use the same kernal there is a gpu bug with both i used radeion.modeset=1 to work around it
[20:41] <mawst> Sounds like the drive is toast adampiek
[20:41] <mawst> You could try cleaning the lense etc.
[20:41] <discozohan> what is the best practice to use mdadm RAID1 for system ? Should i mirror swap ?
[20:41] <mawst> At your own risk.
[20:41] <erUSUL> rantic: looks like a kernel regression/bug
[20:41] <MichealH> SLierFox: All you have to do is edit your grub bootline :)
[20:41] <erUSUL> securityxxxpert: you have boot in a separate partition
[20:41] <erUSUL> ?
[20:42] <adampiek> I suppose...but it just suddenly stopped working after I barely used it
[20:42] <SLierFox> kool il keep diggin :)
[20:42] <securityxxxpert> erUSUL:  I just went with the defaults for a entire hard disc use + encryption
[20:42] <Maahes> how well does the live-cd handle broadcom wireless drivers these days?
[20:42] <erUSUL> securityxxxpert: probably for encryption separate boot is mandatory. the root partition is elsewhere
[20:43] <securityxxxpert> erUSUL:  what command do I need to list all the partitions.  Perhaps gparted will work
[20:44] <shomon> hi, I've been using gwibber for a bit and now I have a huge file under .local/share/desktop-couch/.gwibber_messages_design
[20:44] <shomon> can I delete it?
[20:45] <securityxxxpert> erUSUL:  I have /dev/sda1 243.00 MB boot.  /dev/sda2 extended 232.65, and /dev/sda5 crypt-luks 232.65gb
[20:45] <erUSUL> securityxxxpert: sudo fdisk -l
[20:45] <dominicdinada> !bandwidth
[20:45] <erUSUL> securityxxxpert: /dev/sda5 crypt-luks looks like the real deal
[20:45] <rantic> erUSUL: Alright I guess I will continue my quest, thanks for all your help I appreciate it.
[20:45] <dominicdinada> Need some advice I accidentally knocked the computer offline by doing a port scan. if iptables is set to rate limit drop if a threshold is reached usually after XXX amount of time it will resume connectivity  ?
[20:46] <Redeemed> i have a hd with 2 partitions, one is blank, and i would like to istall programs on the blank partition, is there any method of accomplishing this?
[20:46] <erUSUL> dominicdinada: my router needs a reboot ( it hangs ) if i do a portscan with nmap in my lan
[20:47] <dandi8> I've installed Ubuntu on my laptop with an Intel 82852/855 gfx card and CPU usage spikes up to 100% every time I do anything at all, help?
[20:48] <securityxxxpert> erUSUL:  be with you in a second. need to figure out how to mount encrypted partitions
[20:48] <bsod1> do you know any sources for a person who started using linux
[20:48] <jimcooncat> bsod1: with a windows background, or new to computers in general
[20:49] <bsod1> jimcooncat: with windows bacground
[20:49] <bsod1> background*
[20:49] <jimcooncat> bsod1: a little bit out of date, but I consider it a must-read: http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
[20:49] <Redeemed> i have a hd with 2 partitions, one is blank, and i would like to install programs on the blank partition, is there any method of accomplishing this? feel free to pm
[20:50] <dandi8> I've installed Ubuntu on my laptop with an Intel 82852/855 gfx card and CPU usage spikes up to 100% every time I do anything at all, help?
[20:50] <dougb_freebsd> Redeemed: you just need to put a file system on the "blank" bit
[20:51] <jimcooncat> bsod1: after that, there is good stuff on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=801404
[20:51] <securityxxxpert> erUSUL:  Can't find anything on how to mount the encrypted partition
[20:52] <bsod1> jimcooncat: thanks, i'm looking
[20:52] <ComradeHaz`> Hi all. How would I go about trouble-shooting sound not working?
[20:52] <Redeemed> @Dougb_freebsd I have it's ext4, but i don't know how to install packages to it.
[20:53] <erUSUL> securityxxxpert: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/rescue-an-encrypted-luks-lvm-volume.html
[20:53] <vu1kan> ComradeHaz`: !sound
[20:53] <dougb_freebsd> Redeemed: oh, you want to configure the package manager to install stuff onto the blank partition?  That I don't know the answer to
[20:53] <vu1kan> grr...
[20:53] <vu1kan> !sound
[20:54] <Redeemed> dougb_freebsd, that is exactly my goal.
[20:54] <rocket16> How to change scroll-sensitivity of mouse in Ubuntu?
[20:55] <Redeemed> rocket16, system>preferences>mouse
[20:55] <rocket16> Redeemed: There isn't any option for Scroll-sensitivity,
[20:56] <jimcooncat> Redeemed: I would want to use that separate disk for a /home instead. Keeps it simple if you want to do another clean install.
[20:56] <securityxxxpert> erUSUL:  lol just found that
[20:58] <vu1kan> is there a program for ubuntu that duplicates the functionality of revisor(for fedora)?
[20:58] <Redeemed> jimcooncat, i have no working cd drive, and no thumb drive, otherwise I would have wiped the whole drive and clean installed, as it stands, my root and home is all on an 8gb partition and the majority of my hd, which was hackintosh not too long ago is just sitting there.
[20:58] <erUSUL> vu1kan: what does revisor do ?
[20:59] <maco> vu1kan: remaster
[20:59] <maco> vu1kan: erkk.. i mean.. reconstructor
[20:59] <histo> vu1kan: what do you want to do custom distro?
[20:59] <maco> erUSUL: it remasters
[20:59] <erUSUL> maco: tyvm
[20:59] <vu1kan> reconstructor has yet to build a bootable iso for me
[20:59] <milonzotto> !list
[21:00] <spp2> oi baba
[21:00] <maco> vu1kan: http://uck.sourceforge.net/ this then?
[21:00] <spp2> quem es?
[21:00] <erUSUL> !br | spp2
[21:00] <jimcooncat> Redeemed: That's a bit tough. Usually you would boot another operating system (like a live cd) so that your partitions don't get mounted -- then you can move them around at will.
[21:01] <vu1kan> maco: ty, that looks perfect!
[21:01] <spp2> #ubuntu-br
[21:01] <blockhead> Using LIves
[21:01] <Redeemed> jimcooncat, Yeah, that is why i'm in a bad position, I would have liked to merge, but without any media that is out of the question.
[21:01] <dominicdinada> ok the machine is back on the network but I can not gain access to it hmmmm :( this is not good that it is blocking me
[21:01] <spp2>  /join #ubuntu-br
[21:01] <blockhead> Question, I have a movie I want to cut up and use the scenes and post the scenes in youtube? Is there an easy way of doing this? Do I need a super fast computer?
[21:02] <blockhead> I already have the movie
[21:02] <aeon-ltd> blockhead: depends what quality but even HD video shouldn't take too long, unless you've got a pIII or one of the first intel atoms and no gpu
[21:03] <jimcooncat> Redeemed:  you might want to run something like baobab so see you can easily visualize your actual usage. You might be able to clean up some major space with it.
[21:03] <erUSUL> spp2: no space before /join
[21:03] <dominicdinada> blockhead in ubuntu software center there are a number of video tools such as handbrake, avidmux, pitivid, project x
[21:03] <dominicdinada> blockhead:
[21:03] <blockhead> I'm using
[21:03] <blockhead> LiVES
[21:03] <Julian384> as previous said: Booted Ubuntu 9.10: ended up in a terminal with the filsystem mounted read-only. Syslog shows [16.####] EXT4-fs (sda2): internal journal on sda2:8   [16.####] EXT4-fs error (device sda2): ext4_lookup: deleted inode referenced: 81767. On a working Live USB now.
[21:03] <securityxxxpert> urUSUL: can I send you a pm
[21:03] <dominicdinada> !ratelimit
[21:03] <dominicdinada> !quota
[21:03] <blockhead> aeon-ltd, and dominicdinada ... I have a Dell Inspiron 1525
[21:03] <blockhead> H/O
[21:04] <erUSUL> Julian384: use gparted to check the partition/filesystem
[21:04] <blockhead> 2.9 GIB memory, Intel(R) Pentium (R) Dual CPU T3200 @ .00 GhZ
[21:04] <blockhead> 2.00
[21:04] <erUSUL> blockhead: i would use avidemux
[21:04] <Redeemed> jimcooncat, i could, but that wouldn't solve my problem long term. i'm running a solo ubuntu system right now, and i plan on doing so for a while, seeing as i can't install anything else, so i need to find a way to install and run packages on the larger partition,
[21:04] <spp2> como usar esse chat?
[21:05] <dominicdinada> erUSUL: anyhow the machine is back on the network but it is still blocking this machine :O
[21:05] <dominicdinada> !ES | spp2
[21:05] <andresj> hello, I have a partitioning problem. I have run out of primary partitions, but I need to keep every partition's data. I have a big chunk of empty space before one of my primary partitions (sda3). I would like to make an extended partition (new sda3) and put the old sda3 inside it (sda5). I know I must use fdisk for this.
[21:05] <erUSUL> dominicdinada: !br actually
[21:05] <jca1981> Hi everyone, how do i backup s Mysql database from a system that wont boot
[21:06] <blockhead> I'll download that now er
[21:06] <blockhead> erUSUL,
[21:06] <dominicdinada> erUSUL: heh either or. Spanish is closer to Brazilian dialect than it is English
[21:06] <jimcooncat> Redeemed: I wonder if there is any way that /usr could be moved -- it seems like the best candidate
[21:06] <securityxxxpert> erUSUL:  I sent you the link
[21:06] <mIRC-> hello guys, from where can i change screen display  size?
[21:07] <Julian384> erUSUL: It seams to work. Trying to reboot
[21:07] <blockhead> yeah, I was going to, but tit says
[21:07] <vu1kan> mIRC-: system>prefs>monitors
[21:07] <blockhead> http://fixounet.free.fr/avidemux/download.html and Ubuntu requires GetDeb
[21:07] <discozohan> ping! whats is the best practice to install ubuntu with raid 1 ? Should i create swap on both drives ?
[21:07] <dominicdinada> crap
[21:07] <eden> andresj: try gparted
[21:07] <blockhead> and I don't know how to get that
[21:07] <jimcooncat> Redeemed: format the new partition, copy the contents of /usr over there, change your fstab and reboot
[21:07] <jimcooncat> Redeemed: maybe
[21:07] <spp2> ola
[21:07] <dominicdinada> blockhead: the deb package installer ?
[21:08] <erUSUL> securityxxxpert: and the « sudo modprobe dm-crypt » and « sudo cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/hda5 crypt1 » steps ?
[21:08] <erUSUL> Julian384: ok; good luck
[21:08] <seidos> i was messing around with my sources.list file, to see if i could get virtual box running.  it was a long shot.  anyway, how can i get x working again?
[21:08] <blockhead> ah yes
[21:08] <blockhead> that's the one I was using
[21:08] <seidos> i don't even care if gnome works.  just x.
[21:08] <blockhead> I think h/o let me see
[21:08] <securityxxxpert> erUSUL  didn't copy those down
[21:08] <blockhead> brb, thanks for your help dominicdinada , everone
[21:08] <securityxxxpert> erUSUL: let me do it again and i'll repaste
[21:08] <itsux2bu> in system files a # comments out a line.. does a second one on same line "uncomment" the line.. this example is from  /etc/default/grub:   '# To return splash screen and hide boot messages remove comment(#) from"     having 2 # on the same line is OK?
[21:09] <blockhead> Could not download all repository indexes
[21:09] <blockhead> The repository may no longer be available or could not be contacted because of network problems. If available an older version of the failed index will be used. Otherwise the repository will be ignored. Check your network connection and ensure the repository address in the preferences is correct.
[21:09] <blockhead> Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/abiword-stable/ppa/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404  Not Found
[21:09] <blockhead> Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[21:09] <FloodBot2> blockhead: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:09] <spp2>  /join #ubuntu-br
[21:09] <dominicdinada> Dang it still blocking me and i dont see any rules to drop packets from this machine
[21:09] <blockhead> nevermind it's doing it
[21:09] <karlo> what sound editor do you recommended ?
[21:09] <andresj> eden: I don't see a feature in gparted to convert a primary partition into a logical partition.
[21:10] <erUSUL> karlo: audacity
[21:10] <karlo> but something small..
[21:10] <Julian384> erUSUL: It worked. Thank you!
[21:10] <sado> hello every one
[21:10] <securityxxxpert> erUSUL:  do I have to do the modprobe before creating that device?
[21:10] <erUSUL> Julian384: no problem.
[21:11] <sado> i have a question ?
[21:11] <Julian384> bye
[21:11] <blockhead> Thanks, I like this program better
[21:11] <jca1981> Hi everyone, how do i backup s Mysql database from a system that wont boot, can i copy the files from /var/lib/mysql to another system
[21:11] <Redeemed> still looking for a way to install packages on a secondary partition.
[21:11] <dbruns> what is the best way to get rid of ubuntu-desktop (10.04 Server)?  I had to install it to run an IBM installer. I'd like to free up the space it takes up now.
[21:11] <erUSUL> securityxxxpert: i do not think the orthere really matters much. you have to do all steps before attemping to mount though
[21:11] <sado> when i try ..download adobe flash player tell me its virtual ?
[21:12] <dominicdinada> dbruns: Depends on how you added the desktop. I was told if you added it Via Aptitude it was easier to remove.
[21:12] <dbruns> dominicdinada: i'm pretty sure I just did apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[21:12] <eden> I was running the Ubuntu LiveCD off of a flash drive with a casper file for persistance (I currently don't have a hard drive), and everything ran smoothly. I then decided to install Ubuntu to the flash drive from a CD and run a "real" installation from the flash drive, I removed swap entirely as I have 4GB of RAM. However, it runs really "jerkily". What makes a "real" install of Ubuntu access the disk more than a livecd environment. Can I change something to
[21:12] <eden> make it faster?
[21:12] <dbruns> does  apt-get --purge remove ubuntu-desktop take care of it? seems too easy . . .
[21:13] <erUSUL> !purekde | dbruns use the remove line here
[21:13] <histo> dbruns: no thats just a meta package
[21:13] <benbloom> Is it inappropriate to ask for help printing from my Lucid Kubuntu box to my Windows 7 machine's printer?
[21:13] <dominicdinada> dbruns: as was pointed out to me before apt-get and aptitude are 2 different interfaces and work differently. FOR me i did aptitude remove gnome-desktop
[21:13] <jimcooncat> dbruns: sudo tasksel
[21:13] <sado>  when i try ..download adobe flash player tell me its virtual ?
[21:14] <histo> benbloom: is the printer shared?
[21:14] <benbloom> histo, yes. shared by the win7 machine
[21:14] <erUSUL> dbruns: that will remove most stuff. you may want to continue with anothe xserver packages
[21:14] <dbruns> erUSUL:  I don't need xwindows at all
[21:14] <dominicdinada> SAAAAAAAAWEEET
[21:14] <dbruns> IBM just requires it to install DB2Connect
[21:14] <histo> benbloom: you should be able to add the network printer then.  Make sure samba is installed
[21:15] <whitepheasant> cccasket: How can I set up passwordless sudo commands? (If possible, I would like it as a separate file, if not... I'll just try it the standard way, I didn't want to get into doing the sloppy works of editing some system stuff).
[21:15] <benbloom> btw histo, I fixed my ttys problem from last week by doing a full upgrade to lucid.
[21:15] <jimcooncat> dbruns, I say again: sudo tasksel
[21:15] <benbloom> histo, samba is installed and current, but nothing's showing up when I ask cups to search for shared printers.
[21:16] <blockhead> On Avidemux. How do I do this?
[21:16] <sado> hello guyz
[21:16] <blockhead> Do I play iy through the entire movie?
[21:16] <blockhead> it
[21:16] <sado> when i try ..download adobe flash player tell me its virtual ?
[21:16] <itsux2bu> trivial question and i hate to repeat.. but..    in system files a # comments out a line.. does a second one on same line "uncomment" the line.. this example is from  /etc/default/grub:   '# To return splash screen and hide boot messages remove comment(#) from"     having 2 # on the same line is OK?
[21:16] <sado> ??
[21:17] <erUSUL> dbruns: i do not claim is the whole solution but it is a good start.
[21:17] <eden> benbloom: make sure file and printer sharing are enabled on the windows box. try turning off any firewalls on your windows box for a bit to test
[21:17] <sado> ???
[21:17] <trism> itsux2bu: no, it will not uncomment the line, everything after # will be ignored
[21:17] <sado> guyz ?
[21:17] <erUSUL> sado: sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree
[21:17] <dominicdinada> why doesnt the bot have any info on quotas and ratelimits etc... dumb bot
[21:17] <seidos> how can i select a wireless ap and get a dhcp lease from the terminal?
[21:17] <seidos> s/from/within
[21:17] <erUSUL> dominicdinada: what type of quotas ?
[21:18] <erUSUL> disk ?
[21:18] <dominicdinada> bandwidth
[21:18] <itsux2bu> trism, thx  i thought so.. just checking.. grub is an important part of the system
[21:18] <arinaldi> hi
[21:18] <bittin`> hi
[21:18] <erUSUL> seidos: if there is no security. sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid MYESSID  && sudo dhclient wlan0
[21:18] <dominicdinada> erUSUL: Ratelimits,quotas via bandwidth
[21:18] <jca1981> Hi is Maverick the latest stable or is Lucid?
[21:18] <arinaldi> !list
[21:19] <IdleOne> jca1981: lucid
[21:19] <sado> thxxx erUSUL
[21:19] <jca1981> Doh i just upgraded to Maverick and broke my install, can i downgrade somehow?
[21:19] <dominicdinada> !bandwidth
[21:19] <benbloom> histo, I get this NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE message
[21:20] <erUSUL> sado: no problem
[21:20] <IdleOne> jca1981: join #ubuntu+1 for maverick
[21:20] <erUSUL> sado: probably you want to install ubuntu-restricted-extras too
[21:20]  * dominicdinada thinks the bot doesnt like me 
[21:21] <benbloom> histo, I did disconnect firewalls, but that's not helping. I can browse files on the workgroup via smb client but only after entering the password. cups doesn't let me input a password
[21:21] <whitepheasant> erUSUL: Changing the port number didn't do what I expected. Regardless oof that 5-digit port I do, I still asks me to run the script as root.  This is because Xampp made the program to behave that way. (There can be some workarounds, but I will not bother with that. Thanks anyway, You too jrib).
[21:21] <amos> hello?
[21:22] <amos> here is a chat room?
[21:22] <jimcooncat> amos: no, it's a support room. chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic. Welcome!
[21:22] <amos> oh! Tks
[21:22] <sado> thxxx  very muchhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[21:22] <Guest3999> who can help me plss
[21:23] <Guest3999> ??
[21:23] <amos> haha we are all new ~...~
[21:23] <bittin`> whats the problem Guest3999 ?
[21:23] <dominicdinada> !help
[21:23] <erUSUL> sado: sudo aptitude install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[21:24] <puff> Well, crap... okay, so after doing dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq to clean up the remannts of my first attept to install curl, I tried again.
[21:24] <cccasket> whitepheasant: you'll want to search for "passwordless sudo" to find the how-tos
[21:24] <Guest3999> ej
[21:24] <Guest3999> hey
[21:24] <Guest3999> domini
[21:24] <puff> This time, I let apt run for a good chunk of an hour, it's still "unpacking curl".
[21:24] <puff> Wtf is going on?
[21:24] <erUSUL> a bug
[21:24] <AlmightyT> hey guys i need help installing vmware on ubuntu 10.4.1 pls cant seem to get the package dowloaded/and or installed right
[21:24] <puff> Yeah, but c'mon, installing a simple app like curl via apt?
[21:25] <puff> Is there a channel for advanced ubuntu help?  Nobody seems to have any advice here.
[21:25] <npope> puff whats the problem?
[21:25] <Owlship> Hi, I was trying to fix a disk read error on my win7 drive, and after using the command prompt to fix the mbr my ubuntu install has gone missing. Can anyone help me? I'm running this from the install disk right now.
[21:26] <AlmightyT>  hey guys i need help installing vmware on ubuntu 10.4.1 pls cant seem to get the package downloaded/and or installed right
[21:26] <npope> Owlship: grub-install
[21:26] <Guest3999> iiiiiiiiiiiiiii waaaaaaaaaaaanttttttttt to crack a email can help me ????????????/
[21:26] <npope> Owlship: when you fixed the mbr with windows you wiped grub off your mbr
[21:26] <BluesKaj> !grub |Owlship
[21:26] <puff> npope: sudo aptitude install curl => gets to "Unpacking curl" and just hangs there.
[21:27] <npope> puff: give me two seonds
[21:27] <Guest3999> plss help me to crack a email
[21:27] <Guest3999> plss help me to crack a email
[21:27] <Guest3999> plss help me to crack a email
[21:27] <FloodBot2> Guest3999: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:27] <npope> someone kick guest
[21:27] <sometux>  /msg NickServ REGISTER  jlds798u@##JKYI  w_w_w02@hotmail.com
[21:27] <npope> lol
[21:27] <npope> sometux fail
[21:27] <Guest3999> ubuntu
[21:27] <Guest3999> ?
[21:28] <Guest3999> :(
[21:28] <Guest3999> why u not help mee
[21:28] <Guest3999> ?
[21:28] <BluesKaj> sometux, type that in the server testbox , not in the chat
[21:28] <blockhead> In avidemux, I'm playing the movie in hope so the program reads every frame, why is it coming in all crappy.
[21:28] <BluesKaj> err textbox
[21:28] <blockhead> Just playing, the audio is crappy, I DID press Time Map so it wouldn't do this,
[21:28] <blockhead> The video seems semi ok
[21:29] <puff> npope: Also see notes at http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/9UKdien3
[21:29] <blockhead> nah video is not playing perfect either
[21:31] <blockhead> In avidemux, I'm playing the movie in hope so the program reads every frame, why is it coming in all crappy. The audio is crappy, so is the video, it's not playing perfectly as if it was playing in VLC or media player (I'm using Ubuntu 10.04). I did press Time Map so the sound wouldn't be out of sync, the sound isn't out of sync, but it sounds like it's all robotic, and the video comes in kind of crappy, where it goes to frame to
[21:31] <blockhead>  frame with some frames still there in certain parts of the frame, if that makes any sense.
[21:32] <Shiba> was there an Ubuntu 6.04 release?  All I can find are references to 6.06.
[21:32] <BluesKaj> blockhead, install ffmpeg
[21:33] <ubuntu> erUSUL:  still here?
[21:33] <npope> puff: sudo aptitude clean; sudo aptitude autoclean; sudo aptitude install curl
[21:33] <BluesKaj> !ubuntu 6.06
[21:33] <Shiba> I have a legacy install base that I need to create a buildbot for.  All I see is 6.06 on the mirrors --- was there ever an actual 6.04 release?
[21:33] <blockhead> It's insalled Blue1
[21:33] <blockhead> BluesKaj,
[21:34] <BluesKaj> !medibuntu | blockhead
[21:34] <Shiba> BluesKaj: saying !ubuntu 6.06 isn't helpful.  I just need to know if there was a 6.04 release, and if so, where I can download the ISO.
[21:34] <BluesKaj> !6.04
[21:34] <Shiba> what is '!6.04'?
[21:34] <zamarax> hiku, in windows 7 when you install it creates 2 partitions, system reservered and then the os drive of C:
[21:35] <hiku> zamarax: huh?
[21:35] <zamarax> when I boot into ubuntu I can only see the system reservered drive on /dev/sda1 and not the C: drive on /dev/sda2
[21:35] <zamarax> any idea's?
[21:35] <hiku> zamarax: I've been /away for awhile.
[21:35] <TheSov> hello, i have a Kw-usb2800d video capture device, i was told to load the em28xx module, this does not work the lsusb shows this device "eb1a:2862 eMPIA Technology, Inc" does anyone have any clue why it doesnt work?
[21:35] <Shiba> BluesKaj: what do you mean when you say '!6.04'?
[21:35] <npope> puff: did that resolve your issue?
[21:36] <zamarax> anyone know why ubuntu can't see to see that partition
[21:36] <zamarax> I can see all other partitions
[21:36] <blockhead> BluesKaj,
[21:36] <blockhead> Which one should I install? I have Ubuntu 10.04?
[21:36] <woble> anyone has experience with prey against stolen notebooks?
[21:36] <BluesKaj> Shiba, it's supposed to open a bot factoid with info about the text after the !
[21:37] <blockhead> GPS woble
[21:37] <benbloom> histo, you still there?
[21:37] <Shiba> BluesKaj: ah.  That doesn't appear to be working.  Do you have a link?
[21:37] <woble> blockhead, i mean the tool prey which runs in the background and cn be activated
[21:37] <BluesKaj> Shiba, http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu_dapper
[21:38] <mIRC-> what is the default pass for root user in ubuntu 10
[21:38] <jrib> !root | mIRC-
[21:38] <BluesKaj> !root | mIRC-
[21:39] <krad> hey.  a normal user can't bind to port 113 right?
[21:39] <mIRC-> then how if i want install any program ask me for root pass
[21:39] <ubuntu> anyone mind telling me what they think?  http://pastebin.com/BgRjGG2C
[21:39] <Shiba> BluesKaj: thanks.  That wiki page is useful, but it only lists info on 6.06.  I have been asked *specifically* for 6.04 and *not* 6.06.  Do you know if 6.04 was ever released?
[21:40] <Owlship> npope: so I should do grub install on the hd that my ubuntu install is on and then follow the live cd steps to rewrite the mbr?
[21:40] <jrib> mIRC-: it doesn't.  It asks for your user's password (who, if he is the first user on the system, should be able to sudo)
[21:40] <famicube64> If you really need to log in as root, do "sudo su" then "passwd"
[21:40] <BluesKaj> !sudo | mIRC-
[21:40] <Shiba> BluesKaj: honestly I don't know, and this guy could just be full of it.
[21:40] <famicube64> Then you can log into root with the chosen password
[21:40] <jrib> !noroot | famicube64
[21:40] <Daekdroom> Shiba, 6.06 is what 6.04 was supposed to be, but it was delayed and therefore the number changed to fit its release date.
[21:40] <jrib> famicube64: he doesn't need any of that
[21:40] <jrib> (no one does)
[21:40] <Daekdroom> (month 06 from 2006)
[21:40] <muellisoft> krad: well. simple answer is yes.
[21:40] <BluesKaj> Shiba, never used 6.04
[21:40] <Shiba> Daekdroom: okay, thanks for the clarification.
[21:41] <Shiba> BluesKaj: thanks, thats all I needed to know :)
[21:41] <krad> Muelli, ok
[21:41] <npope> grub!npope
[21:41] <mIRC-> so do i need add user?
[21:41] <npope> grub!ubotto
[21:41]  * npope fail
[21:41] <Seveas> !grub > npope
[21:42] <Seveas> :)
[21:42] <npope> Seveas: thanks :)
[21:42] <benbloom> I need help with win7 and samba can anyone help?
[21:42] <jrib> mIRC-: no.  Just enter your user's password.  Read ubottu's link if you want to understand
[21:42] <mIRC-> ok thanks alot
[21:42] <Muelli> benbloom: #windows probably. Not in here.
[21:43] <Muelli> I guess
[21:43] <Shiba> benbloom: what isn't working?  Asking if someone can help isn't useful, please state your problem.
[21:43] <npope> Owlship: yea just follow the ubuntu page that covers restoring grub
[21:43] <Owlship> npope: thanks
[21:43] <slow-motion> n8
[21:43] <benbloom> samba is installed and current, but nothing's showing up when I ask cups to search for shared printers.
[21:43] <ubuntu> npope:  What you make of this?  http://pastebin.com/BgRjGG2C  I'm trying to recover from a init not found error on a encrypted disc
[21:43] <puff> npope: No, it's still just sitting there at "Unpacking replacement curl..." forever.
[21:44] <nikos_> Hello! is there a way to disable the keyring request that appears when I log in in order to connect with the wireless?
[21:44] <mIRC-> when i try to make install i get this error make: *** [install-recursive] Error 1, whats mean that
[21:44] <Shiba> benbloom: you need to enable printer sharing in smb.conf, and possibly edit the cups config file to allow raw printing.
[21:44] <jrib> mIRC-: what are you trying to install?
[21:44] <Shiba> benbloom: oh I get it.  you're trying to do it the other way around.
[21:44] <Seveas> mIRC-, it means you should try finding a package for whatever you're installing :)
[21:44] <puff> npope: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/tKuY2JYY
[21:44] <Shiba> benbloom: sadly, I don't have any experience with Windows 7 or its printer sharing :)
[21:44] <mIRC-> jrib: am try to instal screenserv
[21:45] <benbloom> sorry Shiba. I am trying to print from my lucid box to win7
[21:45] <npope> ubuntu: i am still a newb when it comes to encryption, someone else would be better to get help from :)
[21:45] <jrib> mIRC-: what is that?
[21:45] <ubuntu> npope:  no prob
[21:45] <Shiba> benbloom: I'd suggest getting two windows boxes talking to each other before attempting a CUPS configuration.
[21:45] <BluesKaj> puff, maybe the package is corrupted or missing dependencies or libs ..looks like it's searching for something on your install that doesn't exist , so it's stuck in limbo
[21:45] <mealstrom> hi, have anyone problem with changed owner of home folders?
[21:46] <mIRC-> jrib: am try to install new Matrix Screensaver
[21:46] <Shiba> benbloom: if you can print from Windows -> Windows, then its a CUPS issue.  Otherwise we can't really help in this channel.
[21:46] <benbloom> Shiba, I only have one windows box.
[21:46] <benbloom> i understand what you';re say ing though
[21:46] <benbloom> I'll ask at #windows
[21:46] <jrib> mIRC-: link?
[21:46] <Daim540> @nikos_ : try to disable "auto connect" (or something like that) in your network config
[21:47] <Shiba> benbloom: we have no idea how your systems are configured here.  If you're fairly certain that Windows is configured correctly for sharing then we'll give hte CUPS side a shot.
[21:47] <puff> BluesKaj: What make you think that?
[21:47] <ubuntu> anybody here familar with encryption?
[21:47] <mIRC-> jrib: u mean the download link?
[21:47] <jrib> ubuntu: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[21:47] <jrib> mIRC-: a link the project's site
[21:47] <alejandrodlrocha> :O
[21:47] <npope> puff: you should try downloading the file and using dpkg to install
[21:47] <mIRC-> http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Desktop-Environment/Screensavers/Matrix-GL-Screensaver-1004.shtml
[21:47] <alejandrodlrocha> ubuntu people *-*
[21:47] <Daim540> @nikos: (in your network wireless properties)
[21:47] <Shiba> benbloom: the little bit I hear about Windows 7 is that it correctly applies access controls now instead of just connecting to whomever wants to access it
[21:48] <puff> BluesKaj: I think the dpkg warning in that last attempt was because I didn't dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq ater killin the previous attempt.
[21:48] <bolster> Quick question: Anyone know if you can set a webpage as a desktop background?
[21:48] <Shiba> benbloom: you may have to log in somehow
[21:48] <puff> npope: Good idea, will try that.
[21:48] <Seveas> mIRC-, that one comes with ubuntu
[21:48] <benbloom> Shiba, that is actulaly my problem. how do you get cups to login to a samba dev?
[21:48] <mIRC-> Seveas: no this one version 2.2.2
[21:48] <ubuntu> ok..well my question is this.  I can't boot into my operating system.  There is a init not found error.however to make things more complicated my entire hard drive is encrypted.  So Here is the commands I entered and the feedback I got.  http://pastebin.com/BgRjGG2C
[21:49] <BluesKaj> puff , whynot just install curl from synaptic
[21:49] <npope> BluesKaj: synaptic is a gui frontend to aptitude
[21:49] <Shiba> benbloom: I'm not sure OTOH.  Actually I've never done that before.  Try checking the CUPS docs, thats what I would have to do in this case too.
[21:50] <benbloom> k Shiba thanks for the pointer
[21:50] <Krenari> hey guys in which channel i have to ask for server security
[21:50] <Krenari> ?
[21:50] <npope> Krenari: ubuntu-server
[21:51] <DrNick_> hi.  have just upgraded a server to 10.4, since then it refuses to recognise the printer attached to the parallel port.  /dev/lp0 isn't created upon boot.  the lp module is loading, with the message "lp: driver loaded but not devices found".  have tried switching parallel port modes in the bios with no luck.  worked ok before the upgrade
[21:51] <X32> Im not sure if this is an ubuntu 10.04 issue or MPD but recently my sound stops working after a random amount of time I think..(alsa only no pulse) resetting alsa-utils and restarting mpd does not fix the issue, any ideas?
[21:51] <BluesKaj> npope, ??
[21:51] <puff> BluesKaj, npope:  Well, downloaded it and ran dpkg -i curletc.deb on it, same results, it appears.
[21:51] <puff> BluesKaj: Okay, i'm game, I'll try synaptic.
[21:51] <Krenari> npope, thank you
[21:51] <guntbert> npope: not quite, both apps are frontends to the apt system
[21:51] <mIRC-> jrib: u still there?
[21:52] <jrib> mIRC-: yes, what's different from the ubuntu version?
[21:52] <aydank> holaa!
[21:52] <DrNick_> reloading the lp module presents the same message btw.  any ideas anyone?
[21:52] <puff> Odd.... I have about eight dpkg processes.
[21:52] <BluesKaj> puff , it may bring in the right dependencies , but I would make sure all repos are enabled in partners and other sources
[21:53] <mIRC-> http://linux.softpedia.com/progScreenshots/Matrix-GL-Screensaver-Screenshot-1004.html this part
[21:53] <puff> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/yWPJFDFw
[21:53] <npope> guntbert: i suppose you are right good sir
[21:53] <guntbert> npope: :)
[21:53] <TheSov> Is anyone here experienced with V4L i have no idea how to update it on my ubuntu 10.04 64bit
[21:53] <jrib> mIRC-: well there's usually a README to look at and see ubottu
[21:53] <npope> puff: looks like dpkg is owning you :)
[21:53] <jrib> !compile > mIRC-
[21:53] <enkidu> hello guys, I need someone from france :)
[21:54] <puff> BluesKaj, npope: Just a wild guess here, but I suspect the existing dpkg processes may be part of the problem.
[21:54] <npope> puff: most likley is your problem... sudo killall dpkg
[21:54] <jrib> mIRC-: actually just read the "Installation" section on the softpedia site, but make sure you trust the author...
[21:54] <puff> BluesKaj, npope: Maybe I should kill them?
[21:54] <Seveas> npope, that's a really bad idea
[21:54] <npope> Seveas: why?
[21:54] <mIRC-> jrib: yes i do compile but the problem when i come to make install part i cant amke it with out error
[21:55] <Seveas> dpkg does not like being killed and may leave your system in an inconsistent or even unbootable state
[21:55] <jrib> mIRC-: the instructions don't mention "make install", do they?
[21:55] <mIRC-> jrib: why ist not safe to install somthing like that?
[21:55] <X32> Im not sure if this is an ubuntu 10.04 issue or MPD but recently my sound stops working after a random amount of time I think..(alsa only no pulse) resetting alsa-utils and restarting mpd does not fix the issue, any ideas?
[21:55] <asdf_baron> So after upgrading to Maverick Alpha 3, somehow my two-finger scrolling stopped working.  It's greyed out in the mouse preferences.  Using xinput --set-prop I can apparently enable two-finger scrolling but this isn't working
[21:55] <npope> Seveas: and how do you propose exiting those processess then?
[21:56] <mIRC-> jrib: yes they do here #make install
[21:56] <BluesKaj> puff, sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[21:56] <Seveas> npope, I'd first examine the output of 'ps -aufx | cat' to see whether dpkg is running and what it is doing
[21:56] <jca1981> when i run update-grub if finds the kernel on the rescue cd not on my chrooted install?
[21:56] <npope> Seveas: ok now you know what its doing... now how do you exit the process?
[21:56] <jrib> mIRC-: well did configure and make complete without error?
[21:57] <deathbyliqour> hi guys
[21:57] <mIRC-> jrib: yes
[21:57] <deathbyliqour> are there any msn cam IMs in ubuntu tt work?
[21:57] <mIRC-> jrib: ist enough?
[21:57] <Seveas> npope, I don't the pastebin showed only dpkg processes. dpkg launches a lot of things (hence why I wnted the -f and the | cat)
[21:57] <Seveas> s/ the pastebin/. The pastebin/
[21:57] <deathbyliqour> pidigin has no MSN support. amsn says tt msn updated their cam encryption again
[21:57] <jrib> mIRC-: and then you run "sudo checkinstall"?
[21:58] <deathbyliqour> emesene cam doesnt seem to work ether
[21:58] <jrib> !checkinstall > mIRC-
[21:58] <mIRC-> jrib: no
[21:58] <npope> Seveas: no i am saying.. hypathetically you figured out what it is doing... how would you go about exiting the process now that you know what it is doing
[21:58] <BluesKaj> puff, I thought curl was installed by default anyway ..don't understand why you're reinstalling using dpkg ?
[21:58] <mealstrom> can anyone send me "/ets/fstab | grep home" with  2+users ?
[21:59] <egertonm20> deathbyliqour pidgin works perfectly well with MSN
[21:59] <jrib> mIRC-: do so
[21:59] <Seveas> npope, that depends on what it is doing. I usually encounter this at work with a crappy proxy setup and kill the wget process that tries to download the flashplayer (yes, this is where I notice it usually). Doesn't leave dpkg in an inconsistent state.
[21:59] <deathbyliqour> ahh yes it does
[21:59] <jrib> mealstrom: number of users wouldn't matter
[21:59] <deathbyliqour> but MSN webcam
[21:59] <deathbyliqour> its not supported yet i believe
[21:59] <jimenez> does this look like a ram problem? http://www.imageshare.web.id/images/3nisw686w0efg70y6ws.png
[21:59] <backo> how to solve ncx-linux-station - serial number required on thin clients using xtenda x300 pci cards?
[21:59] <Seveas> npope, I've also seen it hang in other postinst scripts. So I kill the postinst but not dpkg itself. No inconsistent state.
[21:59] <mIRC-> jrib: sudo: checkinstall: command not found
[21:59] <egertonm20> true
[21:59] <jrib> mIRC-: install it, see ubottu's link about it
[22:00] <Seveas> npope, so far I've never seen dpkg itself being the cause :)
[22:00] <mIRC-> jrib: ok
[22:00] <npope> Seveas: fair enough
[22:00] <mealstrom>  jrib: ive got /home as partioion . and after emergency rewboot owner is changed to whole /home directory
[22:01] <shcherbak> 2
[22:01] <BluesKaj> jimenez, looks like your desktop effects is causing probs rendering fonts..I have the same prob with my old ati graphics
[22:01] <jrib> mealstrom: changed to what?
[22:01] <Seveas> so, puff, care to pastebin the output of: ps auxf | cat
[22:02] <mealstrom>  jrib: ive got my user - mealstrom , user1 and user2. /home/user1 ...     after reboot ive got /home/* with mealstrom:mealstrom
[22:02] <jimenez> BluesKaj thanks
[22:02] <puff> Seveas: Sure, if you like.
[22:02] <fulld> I installed ubuntu-server and then installed a bunch of other stuff. Aside from formatting, is there a way to get back to my base install of ubuntu-server?
[22:02] <puff> Seveas, BluesKaj, npope:  Think I should do the cleanup line BluesKaj suggested, first?
[22:02] <Seveas> puff, preferably not
[22:03] <Seveas> it's pretty bad advise
[22:03] <puff> BluesKaj: I'm installing because it wasn't installed.
[22:03] <mIRC-> jrib: thanks alot for ur help, its work will now
[22:03] <puff>  BluesKaj: I would have assuemd it would be installed, too.
[22:04] <BluesKaj> puff yes , by all means... Seveas if you have a better suggestion , pls post it
[22:04] <Seveas> BluesKaj, well, I may have the same suggestion :). Really depends on that pastebin
[22:05] <zeroone1> Hello! Who has a Terratec Cinergy S USB TV-Box on Ubuntu 10.04 ? How does this work ?
[22:05] <BluesKaj> Seveas, if apt is blocked , what else can he do ?
[22:05] <puff> Seveas, BluesKaj, npope:  http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/tvsgeeBn
[22:06] <histo> zeroone1: did you try searching the forums
[22:06] <X32> btw since no one answered me, the answer is flash sucks in ubuntu 10.04
[22:06] <X32> and breaks the sound
[22:06] <Seveas> puff, that's the same as before. Try this: ps auxf | cat
[22:06] <X32> of everyone I know
[22:06] <FloodBot2> X32: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:06] <rhythmatic> Flash hasn't broken my sound.
[22:06] <X32> good for you dude.
[22:06] <Seveas> BluesKaj, please read what I just wrote to npope. I don't feel like repeating :)
[22:06] <puff> Seveas: What's the same as before?
[22:07] <zeroone1> yes i did but i was all for Ubuntu 8.10
[22:07] <Seveas> puff, that pastebin
[22:07] <puff> Seveas: I appended the ps auxf output to the previous paste.
[22:07] <Seveas> puff, oh doh. Sorry :)
[22:07] <puff> Seveas: :-).
[22:07] <Seveas> puff, you forgot the |cat part though
[22:07] <Seveas> ps auxf | cat
[22:08] <backo> how to solve "ncx-linux-station - serial number required" on thin clients using xtenda x300 pci cards?
[22:08] <itsux2bu> does ubuntu desktop have 'keystroke' select and copy and paste? ie.. ctrl-c, ctrl-v  ?
[22:08] <histo> zeroone1: I would try the install cd which you can boot live and see if it works
[22:08] <CyL> what package provides pppd?
[22:08] <puff> Seveas: What's the
[22:08] <puff> Seveas: What's the | cat part buy you?
[22:09] <npope> puff it shows the whole line
[22:09] <npope> puff: not just your terminal width
[22:09] <puff> Ah...
[22:09] <BluesKaj> Seveas,  maybe a simple dpkg -r packagename will work
[22:09] <Seveas> puff, text. ps cuts the lines at the terminal border. By using | cat ps doesn't see a terminal and will happily show everything
[22:09] <puff> Seveas: I did the ps under an emacs shell buffer, anyway.
[22:09] <Gibby1313> I added a PCI 4 Port Sata card and connected 2 drives to it, lspci and the disk utility see the card but no drives...
[22:10] <Seveas> BluesKaj, neh, it looks really weird. Those dpkg processes in D state are not supposed to happen
[22:10] <hope> can i get some help setting up a cloud
[22:10] <mealstrom> what /ets/fstab should be for separete /home directory?
[22:10] <zeroone1> histo: i have tried it on a 10.04 updated and a 8.04 updated, but it does not work, it has worked on 8.10 with the howtos from the forums (v4l-dvb + firmware + kaffeine) but now i does not work anymore
[22:10] <asdf_baron> So in Maverick, my option for two-finger scrolling is greyed out.  Changing the value manually in gconf-editor will disable edge scrolling but two-finger scrolling still won't work!
[22:11] <ubuntu_> question
[22:11] <Seveas> puff, and you're sure you have enough disk space?
[22:11] <ubuntu_> how do you change the side of the bottons to close, extend the windows?
[22:11] <zeroone1> so, is there someone out there who runs a Terratec Cinergy S USB TV-box (on Ubuntu 10.04) ?
[22:11] <IdleOne> !controls | ubuntu_
[22:11] <BluesKaj> Seveas, yeah well something in dpkg isn't working , even tho it isn't supposed to clog up the works
[22:11] <iceroot> asdf_baron: #ubuntu+1
[22:12] <Seveas> zeroone1, probablty. If no one here knows, try ubuntuforums.org or ubuntu.stackexchange.com
[22:12] <jk_> mealstrom, mine shows "/dev/sda2       /home           ext4    defaults        0       2"
[22:12] <CyL> what package provides pppd?
[22:12] <Seveas> !find pppd
[22:12] <itsux2bu> does ubuntu desktop have 'keystroke' select and copy and paste? ie.. ctrl-c, ctrl-v  ?
[22:12] <puff> Seveas: Yes, I have disk.  I'll incldue a df in the paste.
[22:12] <maco> itsux2bu: yep
[22:12] <IdleOne> itsux2bu: yes
[22:13] <puff> Seveas: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/93XS2Erq
[22:13] <itsux2bu> in a terminal screen while in desktop?
[22:13] <IdleOne> itsux2bu: ctrl-shift-c
[22:14] <itsux2bu> oh.. its a difference keystroke combo
[22:14] <jk_> itsux2bu, or right-click.
[22:14] <Gibby1313> I added a PCI 4 Port Sata card and connected 2 drives to it, lspci and the disk utility see the card but no drives...
[22:14] <IdleOne> itsux2bu: in terminal yes, ctrl-c is already used
[22:14] <itsux2bu> thx IdleOne, maco
[22:14] <oledole2> Q: I have one or more bad sectors on a disk, and I'd like to repair/mark the bad blocks. All the guides I could find were for fixing this if you care about the FS on top, I just want to repair the whole disk, and then recreate a raid parition and insert it into the array again. Is there a simple dd-command that will do this? Thanks!
[22:14] <Seveas> puff, can you strace one of the --unpack processes and see what it's doing?
[22:14] <maco> itsux2bu: everywhere else its ctrl+C
[22:15] <puff> Seveas: I can try.
[22:15] <lgc> Hi, can I upload and download from Ubuntu One from different machines with the same hierarchy, so to speak, for all of them?
[22:15] <zeroone1> http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/terratec-cinergy-s-usb-unter-ubuntu-10-04/
[22:16] <puff> Seveas: Hm, well, strace -p PID works, but no output...
[22:16] <Seveas> puff, not even one line?
[22:16] <itsux2bu> what about selecting or highlighting text i want to copy?
[22:16] <IdleOne> itsux2bu: that I have not figured out :/
[22:16] <puff> Seveas: Process 30537 attached - interrupt to quit
[22:16] <puff> Seveas: And then nothing else.
[22:17] <Seveas> hmm, odd
[22:17] <puff> Hm ctrl-c doesn't work to kill it.
[22:17] <Seveas> ok, kill the --unpack processes one by one starting with the highest PID
[22:17] <puff> Highest to lowest?
[22:17] <puff> how do I stop the strace?  Kill the process?
[22:17] <Seveas> neh, it won't be killed, it's in D state. kill -9 on it should help. Don't kill -9 strace though, it'll go with the relevant dpkg process
[22:17] <erUSUL> puff: crtl + c
[22:18] <puff> erUSUL: I just said ctrl-c didn't work :-).
[22:18] <Seveas> erUSUL, crtl+c doesn't work on processes in D state or on strace ptracing such processes :()
[22:18] <puff> Seveas: Okay, want me to do anything in between the kills?
[22:18] <Seveas> puff, pray :)
[22:18] <erUSUL> Seveas: didn't know it was an unkillable process. puff reboot
[22:18] <npope> rofl
[22:18] <smw> can someone help? When I try to use bluetooth, blueman gives me the error "Failed to set bluetooth power"
[22:19] <Seveas> erUSUL, no way, we're nowhere near reboot :)
[22:19] <Blah> \whois blah
[22:19] <npope> LOL reboot... this is not windows
[22:19] <puff> Seveas: You're my kinda guy.
[22:19] <puff> npope: Exactly!
[22:19] <BluesKaj> I guess dpkg -r is out of the question now
[22:19] <andym3> Blah: it's a normal slash
[22:19] <Blah> got it.
[22:19] <Seveas> BluesKaj, as long as another dpkg is running: yes
[22:19] <puff> Seveas: Hm, vanilla kill doesn't work on it.
[22:19] <famicube64> How can I tell if Ubuntu One is syncing my Firefox bookmarks?
[22:20] <Seveas> puff, kill -9
[22:20] <erUSUL> puff: well zombies with init as parent and processes in D state are unkillable and will be around untill reboot. there is nothing to do about it
[22:20] <Enna> hi
[22:20] <npope> Seveas: my favorite command switch
[22:20] <npope> :)
[22:20] <puff> Seveas: cue scary music... -9 ain't donig it either.
[22:21] <Seveas> puff, neat! kill the master dpkg process. It's still bad advise but I see no other option :)
[22:21] <puff> Seveas: I guess I'm stuck with the Windows Support SOP.
[22:21] <Fendaril_> jason: isn't that name registered?
[22:21] <Fendaril_> lol
[22:21] <Enna> anyone here  im new here
[22:21] <puff> Seveas: Wait... doh.  I was trynig to kill -9 on the dpkg -i curletc.deb process
[22:21] <erUSUL> !ask | Enna
[22:21] <IdleOne> !hi | Enna
[22:21] <smw> !hi | Enna
[22:21] <smw> lol
[22:21] <rantic> Is there an actual Linux Mint channel ?
[22:21] <erUSUL> rantic: yes
[22:21] <puff> Seveas: (the highest number process in ps -ef | fgrep -i dpkg)
[22:21] <maco> !mintsupport
[22:22] <mkanyicy> My ubuntu 10.04 system cannot detect an original dvd, my other home desktop machine also running 10.04 detects it but it disappears soon as I open totem, anyone knows how to fix this?
[22:22] <Enna> i have a problem with dockbarx
[22:22] <Seveas> puff, neh, first some troubleshooting. And I mean shooting trouble :). Did your filesystem get remounted read-only? Does this command work after killing all dpkg processes? dpkg --configure -a
[22:22] <puff> Seveas: Should I skip that one and just kill the unpack processes?
[22:22] <Enna> anyone can help me ?
[22:22] <IdleOne> Enna: only if you ask a question
[22:22] <Fendaril_> !Enna| !question
[22:22] <Enna> ok
[22:22] <Seveas> puff, yeah, that's best. Ignore my last line then, was based on you doing the previous things correctly :)
[22:22] <Fendaril_> !Enna| question
[22:22] <BluesKaj> mkanyicy, install libdvdcss2
[22:22] <Fendaril_> fail
[22:22] <IdleOne> !bot > Fendaril_
[22:23] <smw> Fendaril_, !cmd | person
[22:23] <erUSUL> Enna: describe the problem you are experiencing with as many details as possible in one line
[22:23] <puff> Seveas: Well, as it turns out, doing this correctly don't work, either. :-(
[22:23] <BluesKaj> !medibuntu | mkanyicy
[22:23] <zeroone1> http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/terratec-cinergy-s-usb-unter-ubuntu-10-04/
[22:23] <Enna> for tiny screenshots on dockbarx i must open the kde compability on compiz
[22:23] <Seveas> puff, ok, kill -9 the whole lot. sudo killall -9 dpkg
[22:23] <Enna> when i activated kde compability on compiz
[22:23] <Seveas> then try this: dpkg --configure -a
[22:23] <npope> Seveas++
[22:23] <puff> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/6W6ne88E
[22:23] <Seveas> and check whether your filesystem is ok
[22:24] <npope> Seveas: now we are talking my style
[22:24] <puff> Seveas: no effect.
[22:24] <IdleOne> power off the machine
[22:24] <Seveas> puff, do a dmesg. Does it say anything about your filesystem?
[22:24] <BluesKaj> puff, sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[22:25] <wasutton3-Laptop> is there a way to back up my home partition so that it can be transferred back to a freshly formatted partition without having permissions errors?
[22:25] <Seveas> IdleOne, well, if his filesystem is corrupt and thus remonted read-only, I'd rather do a backup before it fails to boot :)
[22:25] <puff> Seveas: Oddly, there is call trace output in dmesg.
[22:25] <IdleOne> Seveas: good idea
[22:25] <Enna> its too complicated for me
[22:25] <mkanyicy> BluesKaj, I have libdvdcss2
[22:25] <Seveas> wasutton3-Laptop, rsync -av /home backup-box:/home-bak
[22:25] <mkanyicy> BluesKaj, and it works properly
[22:25] <Enna> is it a help channel or chat channel ?
[22:25] <Seveas> puff, pastebin the last few dozen lines or so. Anything that looks relevant
[22:26] <IdleOne> Enna: this is a help channel
[22:26] <Seveas> Enna, help channel. Chat in #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[22:26] <BluesKaj> !ask |Enna
[22:26] <lgc> Hi, can I upload and download from Ubuntu One from different machines with the same hierarchy, so to speak, for all of them? In other words, can I have identical copies of my Ubuntu One dir all over the place or only of selected files?
[22:26] <grkblood> whats a good media server that i can player files remotely from?
[22:26] <smw> grkblood, for what purpose?
[22:26] <grkblood> to view them on one computer from another
[22:26] <weechat_user> hi my main boot ext3 partition wont mount. whats a good program to fix it?
[22:26] <Seveas> grkblood, depends on what you want to play and from where. Do you want a filserver, stream server, dlna server?
[22:27] <grkblood> i was thinking vnc but the picture looks bad
[22:27] <smw> grkblood, I have used mediatomb for pc -> ps3
[22:27] <grkblood> and no sound
[22:27] <weechat_user> I tried fsck.ext3
[22:27] <grkblood> i have mediatomb
[22:27] <grkblood> thats only for ps3
[22:27] <BluesKaj> grkblood, VLC will if you configure it properly , but if you don't it become useless
[22:27] <smw> grkblood, it is not only for the ps3
[22:27] <itsux2bu> ubuntu/*nix loses lots of former windows users by not matching windows selecting/copy/paste/cut/select-all/undo keystrokes..
[22:27] <grkblood> i want somethign that i can view the files
[22:27] <grkblood> and select them
[22:27] <Seveas> grkblood, if you just want to open files on another computer, just share a folder.
[22:27] <smw> grkblood, it is for any upnp player
[22:27] <grkblood> i dont want to have to type in the path
[22:27] <puff> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/MvHKzTZ3
[22:27] <puff> Seveas: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/MvHKzTZ3
[22:28] <Seveas> puff, oh damn. That's messed up
[22:28] <puff> That doesn't sound good.
[22:28] <jason__> How can I given different applications different desktop geometries. I have a kiosk application that uses the right 1/4 of the screen for status information. I don't want the user to be able to move applications like vlc and flash windows into the right 1/4 of the screen even if they run in full screen mode.
[22:28] <puff> The IPW2200 thing is a separate issue, btw.
[22:29] <Seveas> puff, in a nutshell: dpkg called sync() to get the filesystem in consistent state and the kernel can't complete that syscall. This could be a bug in the kernel that disappears after a reboot but can also mean a defect in the disk. My bet is on the latter.
[22:29] <crazydiamond> hi anyone. is google available? http://google.com/
[22:29] <puff> Seveas: Sigh...
[22:29] <puff> Seveas: So basically, time to use the warranty?
[22:30] <Seveas> puff, so, backup and reboot. If you're feeling lucky: just reboot.
[22:30] <IdleOne> puff: time to backup
[22:30] <puff> Dangit, I just reinstalled everthing last month.
[22:30] <wasutton3-Laptop> Seveas: would that also work for the root partition?
[22:30] <okapi14> hi all, I wondering if there is a way to telnet to a specific virtual terminal?
[22:30] <dougb_freebsd> crazydiamond: http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/google.com
[22:30] <erUSUL> okapi14: telnet? back to 1987 ???
[22:30] <crazydiamond> thx
[22:31] <erUSUL> okapi14: what are you trying to do ?
[22:31] <Seveas> wasutton3-Laptop, sort of. You need rsync --av --exclude /sys --exclude /dev --exclude /proc
[22:31] <BluesKaj> okapi14, try ssh , more secure , as long as you have the destination IP and pw
[22:31] <okapi14> erUSUL: I know but i am dealing with old stuff
[22:31] <dominicdinada> why do things that were remove via APT not remove the assoicated cron jobs ?
[22:31] <wasutton3-Laptop> Seveas: perfect just what i was looking for
[22:32] <Seveas> dominicdinada, because cronjobs live in /etc and are thus considered configfiles. Those are only removed if the package is purged (dpkg -P packagename / apt-get remove --purge packagename)
[22:32] <erUSUL> okapi14: yu can not telnet to a VT that makes no sense ... VT are for local access. maybe you want telnet (if you are forced) + screen
[22:32] <erUSUL> !screen | okapi14
[22:32] <dominicdinada> Seveas: I did remove but not purge :/
[22:32] <Seveas> dominicdinada, you can purge now, even though the package is removed
[22:33] <Seveas> !purge
[22:33] <okapi14> Ok, even SSH I want to connect to a specific virtual terminal...Ubuntu allow you to have 7 virtual terminals...
[22:33] <puff> Seveas: Since I just reinstalled, I have month old backups, so I guess I'll run rsync to update them.
[22:34] <erUSUL> okapi14: you log in in a VT (physicaly) run screen run some program. detach from screen log out. later on from the other side of the building connect via telnet resume screen session and the program is there where you left it still running
[22:34] <puff> Seveas: This thing *is* under warranty, so I could just call up IBM and get a replacement.
[22:34] <erUSUL> okapi14: is that wnhat you want ?
[22:34] <puff> Seveas: Though I'd have to figure out how to convince them the drive is failing.
[22:34] <Seveas> !purge is <reply> To purge all removed but not yet purged packages, use the following command: dpkg -l | awk '/^rc/{print $2}' | xargs dpkg -P
[22:34] <puff> The warranty has come in handy several times, I've replaced the drive twice.
[22:34] <erUSUL> puff: send the kernel dmesg with all the scary errors ....
[22:35] <Seveas> puff, it may not be failing. See if it happens again after a reboot. Are you on maverick by any chance?
[22:35] <Seveas> (I've seen it a month or so ago on my system on Maverick)
[22:35] <puff> Seveas: No, lucid.
[22:35] <puff> Seveas: lucid on a thinkpad t43p.  The drive is about a year old.
[22:36] <puff> Seveas: The thinkpad is about five or six years old, but I replaced the drive somewhere in very late 2008/early 2009.
[22:36] <IdleOne> Seveas: that command requires that sudo be used both times, it doesn't carry over.
[22:36] <Seveas> !purge is <reply> To purge all removed but not yet purged packages, use the following command: dpkg -l | awk '/^rc/{print $2}' | sudo xargs dpkg -P
[22:36] <Seveas> thanks IdleOne :)
[22:36] <Maletor_> Why might my internet eth0 stop working. The only thing I did was run the update ALSA script. Internet works with same cord on different computer. Is on in BIOS. No blinking lights form MOBO though...
[22:36] <IdleOne> Seveas: sure thing
[22:36] <okapi14> erUSUL: still missing something. Not quiet yet. Let see I am running a software on VT 1 (alt+F1) and another at VT2 (alt+f2) and from the other side of building I want to connect to VT 1. How I do that?
[22:36] <andaluz> hello guys, I installed 7.10 on laptop Dell c400. But it runs very slow with a lot of HDD activity. While in root mode, everything seems fine? Any suggestion?
[22:37] <puff> Seveas:  Gotta love rsync, but USB external drive support is kinda annoying.  When I was backing up last month, rsync would get a big chunk of the files backed up, then somethign would go wrong with the USB.
[22:37] <madjoe> hey Ubuntu ninjas!
[22:37] <jca1981> hey guys could you help me with getting my system run with grub on lvm system
[22:37] <BluesKaj> andaluz, 7.10, why such an old release ?
[22:38] <Seveas> madjoe, ye scurvy dog, we be pirates!
[22:38] <jca1981> sorry grub2
[22:38] <puff> Seveas: The simplest fix turned out to be disconnecting and reconnecting the cable, and then ubuntu would automount it under a new name, and I'd have to go tweak my backup scripts, then run again.
[22:38] <puff> Seveas: Several times, sigh.
[22:38] <andaluz> BluesKaj: because c400 Dell is a pentium 3 with 256 MB.
[22:38] <IdleOne> andaluz: My suggestion is to install 10.04
[22:38] <Seveas> puff, that's annoying indeed. Try giving the filesystem a label, it should use it for mounting
[22:38] <Maletor_> Why might my internet eth0 stop working. The only thing I did was run the update ALSA script. Internet works with same cord on different computer. Is on in BIOS. No blinking lights form MOBO though...
[22:38] <andaluz> IdleOne: that's too havey for my old laptop...
[22:39] <BluesKaj> andaluz, why not instal the latest xubuntu ...it will run with that hw
[22:39] <puff> Seveas: How, editing fstab?
[22:39] <erUSUL> okapi14: use screen. log in in VT1 run screen in screen run the program you want to continue using even if you log out to log in later. dettach from screen ( is Crtl a + D ) log out from vt1. when you telnet in you can run « screen -r » and screen will reattach to the previous screen sesion and you can continue to work where you left
[22:39] <madjoe> I've installed PokerTH through my Ubuntu Software Center... it's 0.7.1-1, but I need a new 0.8beta... what's the recommended way to do this? there's a link for download: http://www.pokerth.net/download.html
[22:39] <Seveas> puff, depends on the filesystem. e2label for ext*
[22:39] <eriksson25> Anyone that can halp me? have ubuntu 10.04 but my /dev/xxx keeps changing so fucks up the boot. But cant use UUID not working eather.
[22:39] <ratdog> when i create an application launcher on the desktop, what directories hold the applicatoins?
[22:39] <IdleOne> !lnaguge | eriksson25
[22:39] <IdleOne> !language | eriksson25
[22:40] <andaluz> BluesKaj: tried Xubuntu 9.10 but that one has another problem, screen flickers because of low refresh.
[22:40] <Baxnie> is there a file where i add the applications i want to start with session?
[22:40] <andaluz> how can I check the HDD helath status?
[22:40] <andaluz> health
[22:40] <Seveas> Baxnie, system -> preferences -> startup applications
[22:40] <benbloom> so I can log into and mount samba share from my Win7 machine, but I can't set up the printer from that same machine! anyone got any ideas? I get "Session setup failed: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE"
[22:40] <Baxnie> Seveas: console =x, im using a dedicated server
[22:40] <madjoe> andaluz: just my lucky guess... by taking him to a medic?
[22:41] <BluesKaj> andaluz, have you considered Xubuntu 10.04 , it might be more efficient
[22:41] <eriksson25> Sorry, have been strugeling with this 20h+
[22:41] <Seveas> Baxnie,  ~/.bash_profile then for per-session apps
[22:41] <deathanatos> I'm installing Ubuntu 10.04.1, and the installer freezes at the keyboard layout, after gitting "Forward"
[22:42] <andaluz> BluesKaj: why trying the latest distro as a solution? Am I asking too difficult questions here??
[22:42] <IdleOne> madjoe: https://launchpad.net/~pkg-games/+archive/experimental see http://www.pokerth.net/download.html
[22:42] <ratdog> what directories holds the applocatoins
[22:42] <Maletor_> Why might my internet eth0 stop working. The only thing I did was run the update ALSA script. Internet works with same cord on different computer. Is on in BIOS. No blinking lights form MOBO though...
[22:42] <madjoe> IdleOne: thank you! I'm on it...
[22:42] <Seveas> ratdog, mostly /usr/bin
[22:42] <ratdog> but theres another
[22:43] <ubuntutester> hey, i am runnig the live cd om my sony vaio i3 x2, when i check the system monitors it shows me 4 CPUS, why is that?
[22:43] <ratdog> root/user/bin too?
[22:43] <BluesKaj> andaluz, just because a distro is new doesn't make it more difficult to run on an older machine , it might actually run better
[22:43] <Seveas>  /bin /usr/bin /sbin /usr/sbin /usr/games
[22:43] <ubuntutester> or is all i3 x4 and then they just lock 2 of em when you buy a x2 computer, becaus when i am in windows it says that i have 2 cpus
[22:43] <erUSUL> Seveas: ~/.profile is default this days ( i'm sure bash will honour bash_profile if present though )
[22:43] <Cmdr_W_T_Riker> ratdog: if you run a program, it search your $PATH
[22:43] <Cmdr_W_T_Riker> ratdog: do echo $PATH and you'll see those paths
[22:44] <ratdog> for creating desktop shorcuts
[22:44] <weechat_user> as long as you         dont run ppc
[22:44] <puff> Seveas: Argh... so I'm following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RenameUSBDrive
[22:44] <ted`> âû âñå ïðèäóðêè
[22:44] <ted`> âû âñå ïðèäóðêè
[22:44] <ted`> âû âñå ïðèäóðêè
[22:44] <ted`> âû âñå ïðèäóðêè
[22:44] <ted`> âû âñå ïðèäóðêè
[22:44] <ted`> âû âñå ïðèäóðêè
[22:44] <ted`> âû âñå ïðèäóðêè
[22:44] <FloodBot2> ted`: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:44] <puff> Seveas: And it says unmount the drive, so I do sudo umount /media/longstringofrandomcharcters
[22:45] <puff> Seveas: And now *that* is hanging...
[22:45] <swex> look! google dies)
[22:45] <Seveas> puff, because you're still rsyncing to it?
[22:45] <puff> Seveas: Nope.
[22:45] <Seveas> or have some files open, like cd into it in the terminal?
[22:45] <Seveas> lsof | grep /media/yourstring
[22:45] <ComradeHaz`> Hi guys, I have set up a diskless ubuntu system, but I am having some trouble getting the hostname to be what I set it as. etc/hostname in  overly keeps being changed back to the mac address of the clients' NIC as the client boots by something and I cannot figure out what.
[22:45] <okapi14> erUSUL: than ks
[22:46] <okapi14> erUSUL: thanks
[22:46] <Maletor_> erUSUL: can you think of anything i can do to troubleshoot further, i've tried sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[22:46] <puff> Ah, probably because I'm cd'd into it in another window.
[22:46] <erUSUL> okapi14: no problem
[22:46]  * ratdog slaps ph33r around a bit with a large trout
[22:46] <weechat_user> mirc on #ubbuntu?
[22:47] <Seveas> puff, cd out of it then :)
[22:47] <ratdog> sure
[22:47] <shtylman> anyone know how to reparent a process? ive got a defunct zombie process that won't die
[22:47] <puff> Seveas: So, I exited out of that second shell, umount is still hung.  Should I kill it?
[22:47] <Khyl> Can anyone help me with a small problem?
[22:47] <Seveas> puff, did lsof give you anything?
[22:47] <shtylman> I would like to reparent it to something and kill the parent
[22:47] <erUSUL> Maletor_: how did you configure it ? using network manager? what it is connected to?
[22:47] <ratdog> weechat_user use play on Linux to install mIRC >:)
[22:47] <Maletor_> erUSUL: it was all auto, i rebooted from alsa upgrade script and it just stopped working? should i fsck my hdd?
[22:47] <IdleOne> ratdog: leave the trout in the river please
[22:48] <erUSUL> shtylman: init should reap the zombie processes after some time afaik
[22:48] <shtylman> erUSUL: that is what I thought.. but it isn't
[22:48] <ratdog> gaw darn all slap ph33r if i want to, lol
[22:48] <erUSUL> Maletor_: do not think so. « sudo dhclient eth0 » works ?
[22:48] <shtylman> so I have to find another way
[22:48] <puff> Seveas: Nothing relevant, though I'm quitting some other apps on general principles, some of which were accessing a different USB drive.
[22:49] <Seveas> puff, kill the umount and try with umount -f
[22:49] <Seveas> puff, then again, that may also try sync() and hang.
[22:49] <Seveas> so, reboot before relabel :)
[22:49] <erUSUL> shtylman: zombie processes will disappear in the next reboot
[22:50] <puff> Seveas: kill and kill -9 on umount fail.  Sigh.
[22:50] <madjoe> IdleOne: that was so easy.. I'll try to remember that... so PPA is the way
[22:50] <Seveas> puff, check dmesg. Is it doing what dpkg did? :)
[22:50] <puff> Seveas: That is, they return silently, ps shows the processes still there.
[22:50] <Maletor_> erUSUL: looks like no... it says: dhpcd discover on eth0 on 255.255.255.255 no working leases in database
[22:50] <madjoe> IdleOne: thanks again
[22:50] <IdleOne> madjoe: no, PPA is not always the way but in this case was the only way.
[22:50] <puff> Seveas: no, I'm pretty sure all the traces are for dpkg.
[22:51] <erUSUL> Maletor_: the router can be the problem ?
[22:51] <madjoe> IdleOne: so what's the most used scenario for upgrading the app?
[22:51] <Maletor_> it's a wrt54gl with tomato... i can try rebooting but it is pretty rocksolid
[22:51] <IdleOne> madjoe: recommended to stick with the default repositories. pokerth has not been updated yet.
[22:52] <jca1981> trying to get grub2 qorking i have a (linux-root) (hd0,5) and (hd0,1) what do i need to type to get into my system?
[22:52] <madjoe> IdleOne: but if you would like to upgrade the app... which way to look first?
[22:52] <Maletor> erUSUL: rebooted
[22:52] <ChesterX> hello, I am having trouble installing JDK & JRE RPM - I get the message bash: fg: %: no such job - I also don t seem to be able to log on as su
[22:52] <wele> hello guys, i restart my pc and they screen not work,i get this msg from the screen "input not supported",any idea?
[22:52] <IdleOne> madjoe: update manager will offer upgrades to apps when they are available
[22:53] <madjoe> IdleOne: ok
[22:53] <erUSUL> ChesterX: why are you using rpms ?
[22:53] <erUSUL> !java | ChesterX
[22:53] <danial> Hello Ubunut
[22:53] <danial> Ubuntu**
[22:53] <wele> they screen dosent work any more what should i do?
[22:53] <Maletor> erUSUL: same results
[22:54] <erUSUL> wele: boot into recovery mode. fix  xwindows option ?
[22:54] <ComradeHaz`> Hi guys, I have set up a diskless ubuntu system, but I am having some trouble getting the hostname to be what I set it as. etc/hostname in  overly keeps being changed back to the mac address of the clients' NIC as the client boots by something and I cannot figure out what.
[22:54] <erUSUL> Maletor: what is the eth0 driver? tried reloading it?
[22:54] <ChesterX> erUSUL: well I downloaded both packages rpm.bin and .bin, I did start trying with the rpm because I don t really know the difference xD. Btw, what is it?
[22:54] <danial> Quick question. I had a broken package, and while trying to fix it I uninstalled indicator-datetime
[22:54] <wele> erUSUL: how i dont know what i do
[22:55] <erUSUL> !rpm | ChesterX
[22:55] <danial> Now when I try to reinstall it it gives me dependency errors.
[22:55] <erUSUL> ChesterX: follow the instruvtions in the wiki
[22:55] <ChesterX> I ll do so, thanks
[22:55] <MeXTuX> I'm using Ubuntu Server Lucid and I'm trying to share a directory using Samba. My question is what is the difference between using browseable = yes and browseable = no ?? Tnx in advance :)
[22:55] <danial> Because of these broken packages I'm missing my clock and the power button on my top panel.
[22:56] <danial> I have the me menu and the message menu though.
[22:56] <ratdog> I lost the add applets drop menu in the panel, is there a way i can fix this?
[22:56] <jca1981> trying to get grub2 working i have a (linux-root) (hd0,5) and (hd0,1) what do i need to type to get into my system?
[22:56] <erUSUL> ChesterX: run this in terminal « sudo dd-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc)  partner" && sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install sun-java6-jdk »
[22:56] <ComradeHaz`> danial sudo aptititude why-not indicator-datetime
[22:56] <erUSUL> ChesterX: that will install the sun jdk
[22:56] <ChesterX> ok, thank you very much
[22:56] <Maletor> the eth0 driver is just whatever has been working on my asus board all this time.. will lshd | grep eth0 show me the card and then i search /etc/modules for the driver?
[22:57] <erUSUL> Maletor: probably r8169... « lsmod | grep 8169 »
[22:57] <ComradeHaz`> further, danial, just try sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install indicator-datetime
[22:57] <danial> ComradHaz: It is already installed.
[22:57] <danial> So it says unable to find a reason to remove.
[22:58] <danial>  libido-0.1-0: Breaks: indicator-sound (< 0.3.7) but 0.2.3-0ubuntu1 is installed.
[22:58] <ComradeHaz`> You said you uninstalled it....
[22:58] <danial> I uninstalled datetime, not sound.
[22:59] <danial> Maybe I just need to purge the une ppa.
[22:59] <ChesterX> Does anyone know a well working, and Unix native, alternative for Tubemaster++?
[22:59] <erUSUL> ChesterX: what does that program do ?
[22:59] <ComradeHaz`> what happens if you aptitude update and aptitude full-upgrade
[23:00] <ComradeHaz`> does that work?
[23:00] <danial> Let me see.
[23:00] <ComradeHaz`> aptitude is much better than apt-get in my experience at dealing with dependancies
[23:01] <ChesterX> capture streams, (mainly flash etc...) and gives you the option to convert the video/sound in mp3/avi
[23:01] <danial> It gives me the unresolved dependency errors again.
[23:01] <weechat_user>  I used dselect forever, only started using aptitude when I switched to jkubuntu
[23:01] <xangua> danial: what ppa¿
[23:01] <danial>   libido-0.1-0: Breaks: indicator-sound (< 0.3.7) but 0.2.3-0ubuntu1 is installed.
[23:02] <danial> The Unity PPA
[23:02] <blobber> !ops
[23:02] <ComradeHaz`> just run sudo aptitude and see if there are any obsolete packages you can remove
[23:03] <danial> I've got 23 obsolete and locally created packages.
[23:04] <ratdog>  I lost the add applets drop menu in the panel, is there a way i can fix this?
[23:04] <ComradeHaz`> can you recognise any of them as definately obsolete?
[23:04] <ComradeHaz`> If so, kick 'em off.
[23:05] <danial> I'm going to purge the Ubuntu Unity PPA and see what happens.
[23:05] <ComradeHaz`> Hi guys, I have set up a diskless ubuntu system, but I am having some trouble getting the hostname to be what I set it as. etc/hostname in  overly keeps being changed back to the mac address of the clients' NIC as the client boots by something and I cannot figure out what.
[23:07] <ChesterX> How can I see the activ processes in ubuntu?
[23:07] <nakhlawi> ChesterX: top
[23:07] <erUSUL> ChesterX: System>Admin...>system monitor
[23:07] <Antonis> ChesterX, try top
[23:07] <sergio> salve
[23:08] <sergio> !list
[23:08] <erUSUL> !it | sergio
[23:08]  * erUSUL wonders what is up with "list and italians
[23:09] <puff> Seveas: Backups chugging along, painfully slowly.
[23:09] <danial> Is there a good way to tell ubuntu to reinstall all the packages it shipped with?
[23:09] <[KS]> can I "hook into" running process (to see its output) ?
[23:09] <danial> Or, rather, install any missing packages.
[23:10] <gentoo> !ops | danial
[23:10] <erUSUL> danial: install ubuntu-desktop metapackage
[23:10] <erUSUL> [KS]: no
[23:10] <nakhlawi> [KS]: you can re-direct output through the command tee
[23:10] <Ben64> how was danial's question an emergency needing ops?
[23:10] <[KS]> nakhlawi ?
[23:11] <Seveas> Ben64, it wasn't. gentoo was trolling
[23:11] <Ben64> :|
[23:11] <erUSUL> Ben64: obviously gentoo thought it was funny
[23:11] <Guest57621> what happened to the amarok list of radio stations     and    can someone recommend a radio program that does have them
[23:11] <nakhlawi> [KS]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tee_(command)
[23:11]  * puff just hopes he doesn't end up letting the magic blue smoke escape.
[23:12] <Guest57621> oh by the way, it does have some icons but they do not list the STATIONS like older versions of amarok
[23:12] <GiuseppeM> hi
[23:13] <GiuseppeM> !list
[23:13] <Seveas> puff, hard drive makers switched to red smoke 5 years ago
[23:14] <danial> Let's see if the purging for the UNE PPA worked, time for a quick logout and back in again.
[23:14] <puff> Seveas: Ah-hah, that explains my problems.
[23:14] <[KS]> nakhlawi, if I specify `date -%d%m%Y` as filename, will it evaluate only once at the beginning (if the process is running for more than one day) ?
[23:14] <dominicdinada> is there a way to automatically purge removed packages instad of doing it one by one  ?
[23:15] <Seveas> IdleOne, what was that for?
[23:15] <erUSUL> !purge | dominicdinada
[23:15] <Blazento> hello i am trying to get IE on ubuntu. I am trying to follow these steps, but I don't know if I should follow instructions for Feisty Fawn, Edgy Fit, or Dapper Drake...
[23:15] <erUSUL> Seveas: :/
[23:15] <dominicdinada> ?
[23:15] <weechat_user> is there a way to list all the packages installed in chronological order?
[23:15] <IdleOne> Seveas: that was the user calling ops and quitting (gentoo)
[23:15] <KB1JWQ> weechat_user: the dpkg.log
[23:15] <weechat_user> ahh thanks.
[23:15] <nakhlawi> [KS]: actually, I didn't get your last question!
[23:15] <dominicdinada> !purge does not exist lol. I think they need to update the bot :O
[23:16] <Seveas> IdleOne, oh wow, well spotted :)
[23:16] <erUSUL> dominicdinada: 23:36 < Seveas> !purge is <reply> To purge all removed but not yet purged packages, use the following command: dpkg -l | awk  '/^rc/{print $2}' | sudo xargs dpkg -P
[23:16] <[KS]> nakhlawi, if I use process | tee `date -%d%m%Y`.log
[23:16] <[KS]> will date get evaluated only once when it's executed, or it will change daily?
[23:16] <Seveas> dominicdinada, I tried adding it to the bot, the ops need to approve it
[23:16] <puff> Seveas: Ugh, just figured out why that took so long... An error when I changed the script, so it rsync'd it all fresh, instead of over the old copy.  Ah well.
[23:17] <dominicdinada> Seveas: Idleone is right here
[23:17] <dominicdinada> :P
[23:17] <Seveas> dominicdinada, not all ops have access I believe :)
[23:17] <RealOpty> anyone know of free VPS/VDS hosting?
[23:17] <dominicdinada> lol Well... could also go spam the ops channel ;)
[23:17] <meek_> does anybody know what the difference between adobe-flashplugin and flashplugin-nonfree is/was?
[23:17] <IdleOne> dominicdinada: spamming the ops channel is a bad idea
[23:17] <nakhlawi> [KS]: I think once per day. But that is only my guess.
[23:17] <Seveas> dominicdinada, no thanks. I'd rather not go into that snakepit :)
[23:17] <dominicdinada> Seveas: Btw thanks I hope nothing breaks
[23:18] <dominicdinada> IdleOne: I was being Facetious
[23:18] <dominicdinada> lol
[23:18] <IdleOne> dominicdinada: I am going to look up the definition of that and if I am insulted I will be back :P
[23:18] <nakhlawi> [KS]: because you are telling "date" to display date, but not hours/minutes/seconds.
[23:19] <[KS]> I know, I need daily rotation
[23:19]  * dominicdinada hides from Idleone when he is not so idle. Seems he always kicks and bans someone when not resting
[23:19] <[KS]> but I suspect it will be evaluated only when process is started
[23:19] <nakhlawi> [KS]: what do you want to do?
[23:20] <Guest57621> excuse my ignorance but what does it mean when someone puts a ! in front of a word
[23:20] <[KS]> I have java app that runs 24/7 and has output all the time
[23:20] <[KS]> I want daily logs of it's output
[23:20] <Seveas> Guest57621, they're trying to make our pet bot do something
[23:20] <dominicdinada> Guest57621:  it references the bot commands
[23:20] <Seveas> !hi | Guest57621
[23:20] <dominicdinada> !help | Guest57621
[23:20] <dominicdinada> like so
[23:20] <nakhlawi> [KS]: then the process will continue writing to the same file, unless you kill it.
[23:20] <Seveas> Guest57621, basically we're all lazy :)
[23:21] <[KS]> yeah, I figured, I'll just output to log.txt and have cronjob move log.txt > log.date.txt
[23:21] <[KS]> :)
[23:21] <Guest57621> !list
[23:21] <ComradeHaz`> Hi guys, I have set up a diskless ubuntu system, but I am having some trouble getting the hostname to be what I set it as. etc/hostname in  overly keeps being changed back to the mac address of the clients' NIC as the client boots by something and I cannot figure out what.
[23:21] <nakhlawi> [KS]: maybe "logrotate" can help you.
[23:22] <dominicdinada> IdleOne: Find out what it meant yet  ?
[23:22] <IdleOne> dominicdinada: you are still here :)
[23:22] <Guest57621> ok then... can someone direct me where can I learn this command structure
[23:22] <IdleOne> Guest57621: type /msg ubottu !bot
[23:23] <puff> Seveas: Okay, /home and /mcgee (bulk data partition) backed up, /etc backed up, dumped my package list with dpkg --get-selections and put that on the backup device.
[23:23] <puff> Seveas: So, here goes nothing...
[23:23] <Maletor> the eth0 driver is just whatever has been working on my asus board all this time.. will lshd | grep eth0 show me the card and then i search /etc/modules for the driver?
[23:23] <Maletor> erUSUL: the eth0 driver is just whatever has been working on my asus board all this time.. will lshd | grep eth0 show me the card and then i search /etc/modules for the driver?
[23:23] <Seveas> puff, good luck
[23:25] <Seveas> [KS], you should look at the rotatelogs command (part of apache2-utils). It does what you want
[23:25] <dominicdinada> IdleOne: you learn something new every day eh :) like how i just learned how to purge all the left over stuff today
[23:26] <Guest57621> I am new ( obviously ) to linux and I like the useability of it but where can I learn to use its command line editor or shell or bash I think it is called
[23:26] <IdleOne> !cli > Guest57621
[23:26] <dominicdinada> !cli
[23:26] <Guest57621> !cli
[23:27] <dominicdinada> didnt mean to spam but i wanted to read also :O
[23:27] <dougb_freebsd> if you guys are going to play with the bot, can you do it with > yournick
[23:27] <IdleOne> dominicdinada: Please use /msg ubottu when searching the bot
[23:27] <dougb_freebsd> or that :)
[23:28] <Guest57621> thank you so much I will start studing'
[23:28] <dominicdinada> IdleOne: the only time the bot whispers me. is when it tells me it is not a very smart bot. But I will whisper it
[23:30] <[KS]> 1 0 * * * in crontab
[23:30] <[KS]> specifies every day at 00:01 ?
[23:30] <Seveas> yeah
[23:30] <[KS]> thank you
[23:31] <chazz> Hi, I noticed that Ubuntu 11.04 is to be named "Natty Narwhal," so I was wondering if the official theme music would be that song that goes 'narwhals narwhals swimming in the ocean, causing a commotion...' :D
[23:31] <ratdog> how can i get my panel applets back?
[23:32] <JusticeZero> Hi, my netbook was powered down incorrectly and now it can't connect to wireless. It can see it and try to connect, it just doesn't succeed. What should I do to troubleshoot/fix this?
[23:32] <billy_> hi, i have a question about firewalls - is it possible to prevent an email app using http while allowing it to use pop3 and smtp?
[23:32] <bluefoxicy> what in the seven hells did I just do
[23:33] <bluefoxicy> I bounced a button sequence and clicked a window
[23:33] <bluefoxicy> now there is a permanent tinted box the shape oft hat window on my screen
[23:33] <bluefoxicy> it serves no purpose except visual annoyance
[23:33] <bluefoxicy> this is the stupidest feature I've ever seen
[23:33] <Seveas> bluefoxicy, oh, happens to me too sometimes, it goes away when I do metacity --replace :)
[23:33]  * bluefoxicy minimized and maximized and it went away
[23:33] <Seveas> heh
[23:34] <bluefoxicy> seveas yeh but wtf is it?!
[23:34] <ratdog> hi ActionParsnip
[23:34] <Seveas> mine don't go away like that
[23:34] <ActionParsnip> hi ratdog
[23:34] <Seveas> bluefoxicy, bug in gtk for you, bug in metacity for me.
[23:34] <bluefoxicy> That is seriously the most useless thing I've yet encountered
[23:34] <ratdog> ActionParsnip how can i get my panel applets back?
[23:34] <bluefoxicy> oh ok
[23:34] <ActionParsnip> !resetpanel | ratdog
[23:34] <linuxusesubuntu> Why does Ubuntu Karmic ONLY encrypt the user's /home partition? Shouldn't the fact that it does NOT encrypt root's home partition (i.e. /root) be considered a kind of vulnerability given that "/root" stores similar sensitive data as /home does?
[23:35] <ratdog> ty ActionParsnip
[23:35] <Seveas> linuxusesubuntu, /root stores nothing for me
[23:35] <dominicdinada> How to check if there is bandwidth or ratelimiting set ? I never set it but somewhere upon upgrades i used to get 1.5mbps now i am lucky to reach 350kbps
[23:35] <PeterNL> What's wrong with the following line of my crontab? The script works, and it's meant to be run every 10 minutes
[23:35] <PeterNL> */10 * * * * /home/peter/kleur
[23:35] <linuxusesubuntu> Seveas: doesn't it store .bash_history and logs when you run commands and apps through sudo?
[23:36] <ActionParsnip> linuxusesubuntu: i dont use encryptfs and dont consider any of my systems to be vulnerable at all. It saves a lot of messing around if the system goes belly up
[23:36] <JusticeZero> Can someone help me fix my wireless, please?
[23:36] <ActionParsnip> JusticeZero: whats the issue
[23:36] <Seveas> linuxusesubuntu, if you run them from a rootshell: yes. How's that sensitive?
[23:36] <bluefoxicy> mysql -u root -p mypassword
[23:36] <JusticeZero> I
[23:36] <valbaca> linuxusesubuntu, /root shouldn't contain sensitive information. however, / can. The only problem is booting into an encrypted filesystem is a little more complicated than the "average desktop" user can handle, so isn't in ubuntu
[23:37] <Seveas> bluefoxicy, yeah, that's silly
[23:37] <PeterNL> How do I check if my crontab script is run as me, and not as any other user?
[23:37] <valbaca> !wireless > JusticeZero
[23:37] <Seveas> bluefoxicy, for 2 reasons: no need to run that as root and passwords on the commandline are not a good idea
[23:37] <linuxusesubuntu> Seveas: what do you mean by "how's that sensitive"? It can be sensitive in the same sense that /home can be, can't it?
[23:37] <bluefoxicy> seveas:  I keep a shit-I-shouldn't-have collection at my employer
[23:37] <JusticeZero> System was shut down improperly. When it came back up, it can see all the available wireless, but it can't actually CONNECT to the one I have access to.
[23:37] <Seveas> PeterNL, where did you stick it?
[23:37] <bluefoxicy> seveas:  Occasionally I forward my manager my everyone-else's-passwords list :)
[23:37] <Seveas> bluefoxicy, in /root ?
[23:37] <PeterNL> Seveas, I used crontab -e
[23:37] <Seveas> PeterNL, as yourself?
[23:38] <PeterNL> yes
[23:38] <Seveas> then it's run as you
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> JusticeZero: ok what is output when you try?
[23:38] <bluefoxicy> seveas:  No, I mean in general.  That's one way I get passwords though, nabbing them from .bash_history on servers
[23:38] <PeterNL> But it still doesn't work
[23:38] <Seveas> bluefoxicy, your colleagues are dumb :)
[23:38] <Seveas> PeterNL, that's a different issue :)
[23:38] <bluefoxicy> Seveas:  Oh I know.  :)
[23:38] <PeterNL> Shall I post the script?
[23:38] <Seveas> PeterNL, sure, find a nice pastebin and paste it there
[23:38] <linuxusesubuntu> ActionParsnip: "vulnerable" within the context that encryption is being used to protect "/home"'s "vulnerability" but not used to protect "/root"'s. The fact that you don't consider using encryption necessary doesn't mean anything as far as such context is concerned.
[23:39] <JusticeZero> It spins away on it for awhile, then says that authentication is required and asks for a password. I put the password in and repeat.
[23:39] <PeterNL> http://pastebin.com/eYP6xLNr
[23:39] <demonic> hey guys to any of you know how to put the home brew channel on linux ubuntu netbook remix?
[23:39] <ActionParsnip> linuxusesubuntu: what "vulnerability" do non-encrypted /home partitions have?
[23:40] <JusticeZero> Meanwhile, the Windows partition, and both sides of the dual boot on the other laptop connect without issue.
[23:40] <linuxusesubuntu> valbaca: I know that whole disk encryption would be a complete hassle and that's why it's avoided, but encrypting "/root" besides "/home", I don't know to what extent that might be impractical, that's why I ask
[23:40] <Seveas> PeterNL, gconftool-2 doesn't work from cron as it doesn't know the ORBIT_SOCKETDIR variable
[23:40] <sinnedam> im having a problem with my panel..whenever i minimize a window it doesnt show up on the bottom panel..it just disappears..any ideas?
[23:40] <puff> Seveas: Hm, well, it looks like all's fine.
[23:40] <PeterNL> So how di I fix that?
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> sinnedam: add the windows list applet to the panel, they will then show up ok
[23:41] <puff> Seveas: dmesg doesn't seem to have any scary messags.
[23:41] <Seveas> PeterNL, you could try setting it to /tmp/orbit-yourloginnamehere as that is the default. It'll still only work when you're logged in though.
[23:41] <valbaca> linuxusesubuntu, on installation you ought to be able to create a seperate partition for /root and then encrypt it
[23:41] <sinnedam> ah..thanks!
[23:41] <PeterNL> okay, good enough
[23:41] <eriksson25> Anyone know how I can get /dev/xxx to stay even if I add other disks. And dont say UUID becouse it dosent work. Need a other way.
[23:41] <Seveas> puff, good. Now time to fix dpkg. dpkg --configure -a. And then install curl again
[23:42] <linuxusesubuntu> ActionParsnip: that's not relevant at all to the question asked, given that it's about systems that encrypt the "/home" partition and whether not encrypting "/root" as well could be considered a contradiction (i.e. given that /home is encrypted, why not /root?).
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> linuxusesubuntu: you could always put /root on its own partition and encrypt it
[23:42] <puff> Seveas: Yay, it appears to be working, this time.
[23:42] <Seveas> woo
[23:42] <puff> I still wonder wtf went wrong to begin with...
[23:42] <Seveas> puff, kernel bug or disk failure. If your disk seems to work fine now, cross your fingers and hope it was a fluke in the kernel
[23:42] <puff> Seveas: Any way I could test it programmatically?
[23:42]  * PeterNL waits 'till 0:50...
[23:43] <puff> Seveas: e.g I just did a backup, I'd rather stress-test it now than later.
[23:43] <Seveas> puff, yeah, by overwriting the entire disk repeatedly.
[23:43] <eriksson25> Anyone know how I can get /dev/xxx to stay even if I add other disks. And dont say UUID becouse it dosent work. Need a other way.
[23:43] <Seveas> puff, that destroys all data though
[23:43] <puff> Seveas: uhhhhhhhhh...
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> linuxusesubuntu: you will most likely find /root is largely unused in Ubuntu due to the use of sude
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> *sudo
[23:43] <puff> Seveas: Okay, I guess I should just keep my backups up to date, and pray.
[23:43] <linuxusesubuntu> valbaca: ActionParsnip , good point, or a loopback device could be created as well, I was just wondering why Ubuntu doesn't do that by default when you say "yes" to "Do you want to encrypt /home"? I mean, if a user is going through the trouble of encrypting /home, not encrypting /tmp and /root could be considered inconsistent, unless I am missing something
[23:43] <Seveas> easiest way is to boot from a live cd, unmount all swap partitions and use wipe on the entire disk.
[23:44] <Seveas> or shred
[23:44] <Seveas> backups and praying is a reasonable alternative. It's what I do too :)(
[23:44] <linuxusesubuntu> ActionParsnip: that's just what I was wondering about, whether or not issuing commands through sudo wrote anything to /root
[23:44] <valbaca> linuxusesubuntu, it all goes back to the fact that when using ubuntu you should never be root, only using sudo.
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> linuxusesubuntu: /root isnt used due to sudo so there will be no data in there as Ubuntu doesn't support users using root, so its a waste of effort. It can be done if you really want but it wont achieve much
[23:45] <datta> does anyone know why hplip does not open up even after I have instaled the GUI of it with the whole package from synaptic?
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> as far as I am aware
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> datta: could try using the latest from the hplip site
[23:45] <puff> Seveas: Sigh... well that's another day shot... many thanks for your help.
[23:45] <linuxusesubuntu> valbaca: sometimes one has got to use "sudo su" in order to become root, since you cannot use "sudo cd" (sudo doesn't work with "cd") when needs to get into read protected directories
[23:45] <Seveas> puff, np
[23:45] <puff> npope: Yours as well.
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> linuxusesubuntu: sudo -i   is advised
[23:45] <PeterNL> Seveas: still not working: http://pastebin.com/JiZcgQ0X
[23:45] <datta> ActionParsnip: I have tried that also but does not help
[23:46] <delx> I've got a problem. I shared my "software" folder via Samba. The problem is: The windows user can't write on this folder, because his user is not "deluxe" like mine. How do I change the user of the running samba process?
[23:46] <voidmage> that reminds me, what's the difference between sudo -i and sudo su?
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> datta: log a bug then
[23:46] <Seveas> PeterNL, needs an export
[23:46] <puff> Now I just need to figure out how to get rails 3.0 working.  Apparently the package versions of ruby, gems, etc, have some serious incompatibilities with rails 3.0.
[23:46] <Seveas> PeterNL, and no semicolon
[23:46] <datta> ActionParsnip: all right
[23:46] <PeterNL> Does the semicolon matter? I'm used to it
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> voidmage: sudo -i   uses the users profile with elevated access, su effectively makes you rrot
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> can't type today
[23:47] <linuxusesubuntu> ActionParsnip: so basically, unless one logs in as root in a virtual console or one gets into "God mode" using "sudo su", no data is going to be written into "/root"?
[23:47] <Seveas> PeterNL, it shouldn't but it's unnecessary
[23:47] <voidmage> that explains why i lose my vimrc
[23:47] <voidmage> colors and whatnot
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> linuxusesubuntu: as far as I am aware, thats right
[23:47] <Eclorian> Okay, COMPLETE newbie here, I was wondering if 10.04 will run on an old laptop with 512mb of RAM?
[23:47] <valbaca> linuxusesubuntu, I know that there are times when it is necessary to become root. But I was simply explaining the "inconsistencies" of the /home&/root encryptions.
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> Eclorian: sure, use Xubuntu or Lubuntu
[23:47] <Wavesonics> does anyone know if you can use Proxy's with Transmission? I'm looking into soemthing like btguard
[23:47] <puff> Is there any way to permanently get rid of the pretty graphics during startup/shutdown, and see the gory details like I used to?
[23:47] <PeterNL> Seveas: it is necessary, as I will cause syntax errors in PHP if I forget them. I started using them in bash and javascript and whatnot since I started using php :D
[23:48] <Seveas> Eclorian, and don't expect it to be lightning fast. It won't be slow as molasses either though.
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> Wavesonics: sure, theres a section in the config to setup the proxy
[23:48] <Eclorian> Nah, mostly I want the experience
[23:48] <linuxusesubuntu> ActionParsnip: I knew it had to make some sense and now I can see it, thanks to your explanation :)
[23:48] <linuxusesubuntu> valbaca: thanks to you as well
[23:48] <Seveas> PeterNL, that's a pretty silly reason to do it. Each language is different and should be treated as such...
[23:48] <linuxusesubuntu> valbaca: that makes it have much more sense than I could see before
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> puff: remove the boot options in the quotes in /etc/default/grub
[23:48] <valbaca> linuxusesubuntu, glad to help :D
[23:48] <ZykoticK9> puff, add /etc/default/grub set GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" and update grub
[23:48] <PeterNL> Seveas: true, but not always as easy as it sounds...
[23:48] <JusticeZero> i've done, with xubuntu, on a smaller system in fact. Gave it to my nephew. Who saved up and bought a new PC. and is, like, 6 years old. o.O
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> puff: the: quiet splash   text, then save the file and run: sudo update-grub   to apply the setting
[23:49] <Barridus> anyone else getting "assertion failed" messages all the time in firefox?
[23:49] <Wavesonics> ActionParsnip, right, but i read somewhere that it is only for the initial connection, and that after that it doesn;t use the proxy for actual peer connections
[23:49] <linuxusesubuntu> valbaca: in any case, one area that they left untouched was that of not encrypting the /tmp directory, though that can be easily accomplished just adding one line at /etc/crypttab and /etc/fstab.
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> Eclorian: you just need a light desktop to suit the hardware, linux isnt like windows with it needing higher and higher specs
[23:50] <PeterNL> Seveas: still not working...
[23:50] <JusticeZero> It does creep up a little bit though.
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> Wavesonics: you can set http_proxy and ftp_proxy   to make it use the proxy
[23:50] <Seveas> PeterNL, make your cron entry redirect output to something in /tmp and pastebin the output
[23:51] <linuxusesubuntu> valbaca: As far as consistency goes, I think that, at a minimum, if /home is encrypted, both swap and /tmp should be too (ubuntu already takes care of swap encryption). I don't know if there is anything else out there were the user's data could be spilt, maybe /var/log?
[23:51] <Eclorian> I remember reading that much, I was going to use it as a gateway to play movies from my main P.C. to my TV, but everytime I install it on this old desktop I have, it goes haywire
[23:51] <Wavesonics> ActionParsnip, ah it uses ftp for the peer to peer and http for the tracker?
[23:51] <valbaca> linuxusesubuntu, or, like I do, you can put /tmp and /var in RAM :D fewer writes to my hd
[23:51] <linuxusesubuntu> valbaca: with 512MB RAM that would be pretty impractical :)
[23:52] <PeterNL> Seveas: like this? http://pastebin.com/pwgfFn7x
[23:52] <linuxusesubuntu> though /var could be put there I guess, but do you put the ENTIRE /var directory there?
[23:52] <valbaca> linuxusesubuntu, yes that would. Sounds like you really just want full disk encryption
[23:52] <Seveas> PeterNL, no
[23:52] <PeterNL> Oh, what do you mean instead?
[23:52] <valbaca> no, just /var/tmp
[23:52] <valbaca> and /tmp
[23:52] <Seveas> in the crontab entry, do this: * * * * * /path/to/your/script >> /tmp/somelogfile
[23:53] <PeterNL> ok
[23:53] <maco> lilium: putting /var in ram would be...silly. no logs. and apt's cache would be wrecked... and if it was a server, bye bye web stuff!
[23:53] <maco> lilium: not you
[23:53] <Seveas> then /tmp/somelogfile should give some clues :)
[23:53] <Seveas> linuxusesubuntu, /var isn't for temporary things. Losing /var usually means reinstalling.
[23:54] <PeterNL> like this? script: http://pastebin.com/y3c3HymA cron: http://pastebin.com/Siy3YZ6M
[23:54] <litatacos> hey hey there. i have a pretty common problem from the forums but i tried all the reccomended solutions without any luck :( i installed ubuntu studio but i cant connect to the interner. tried installing with hard wire connection and from cd rom. thnx for the awesomeness!!!
[23:55] <litatacos> ^internet sorry
[23:55] <nuk> what's up with 10.04 ?  on my older laptop, the mouse and keyboard won't work when installing it, but other distros work fine.... now, i just bought a new Acer laptop yesterday, and it worked fine right away???
[23:55] <linuxusesubuntu> valbaca: not really, I was really trying to find security glitches in ubuntu, so that they can fix them. I don't think full disk encryption is practical, since it interferes with the boot process. To give you an example, I was trying to know what are the maximum number of things that can be encrypted without interferring with the boot process, init, system mounting, etc.
[23:55] <Seveas> PeterNL, yeah. Now wait for /tmp/thingy to contain logs :)
[23:55] <PeterNL> ok...
[23:55] <linuxusesubuntu> Seveas: that's what I thought. Once you install the system, does /var tend to change with time as you install new things? Or does it structure remain pretty static?
[23:55] <PeterNL> Seveas: "run as peter at Tue Aug 31 00:55:01 CEST 2010" but didn't change the colors
[23:55] <Seveas> linuxusesubuntu, very dynamic.
[23:56] <maco> linuxusesubuntu: hence the name :P
[23:56] <Seveas> linuxusesubuntu, you dpkg info about installed packages is there for instance. Or your mysql databases if you install mysql
[23:56] <linuxusesubuntu> Seveas: so it wouldn't be practical to "regenerate" /var with a new key everytime you boot, would it?
[23:56] <maco> Seveas: and your webpages with either apache2 or tomcat
[23:56] <Seveas> PeterNL, and no output from gconftool?
[23:56] <Seveas> maco, those should live in /srv :)
[23:56] <nuk> I also have the Ubuntu Satanic Edition:  I havn't really seen any difference except the themes ??  anyone haveany input on this?
[23:56] <Seveas> but yeah, most of the time they end up in /var/www
[23:57] <maco> Seveas: tomcat stuff goes in /var/lib/tomcat6/
[23:57] <PeterNL> nope, only the run as-lines
[23:57] <Seveas> PeterNL, then the gconftool-2 command worked :)
[23:57] <Seveas> antually, that's a lie
[23:57] <Seveas> instead of >> /tmp/thingy, you need this: >> /tmp/thingy 2>&1
[23:57] <PeterNL> But I was looking at gconf-editor and plenty of things-that-should-get-a-new-color and nothing happened
[23:57] <Seveas> to redirect stderr as well :)
[23:57] <PeterNL> oh, ok
[23:58] <famicube64> anyone here use a geforce 6200 with lucid? the agp version
[23:58] <PeterNL> like this: http://pastebin.com/H9fjU8fH
[23:58] <nuk> fam >> my girl uses that
[23:58] <Seveas> PeterNL, yes
[23:58] <Guest29385> i have a problem with ubuntu/flash and the airmiles.ca site
[23:59] <famicube64> nuk: do the binary drivers work with it?
[23:59] <PeterNL> Seveas: Now wait for the next hour, which is less than a minute now
[23:59] <Seveas> Guest29385, blame canada :)
[23:59] <Seveas> (scnr)
[23:59] <nuk> yes, but i think i had to mess with (edit) a few things for it to wok right
[23:59] <sharperguy> Anyone know it it's possible for a router to get infected with malware?
[23:59] <famicube64> nuk: ok, thanks