[00:10] <prep> Just updated to US, some of the audio app's will not launch.
[00:20] <tucemiux> which appz??
[00:35] <prep> Jasmin, JACKTimeMachine, and a few others, Meter Bridge, launches then shuts down, the others, never launch
[00:38] <tucemiux> prep, youre using lucid?
[00:39] <prep> Ubuntu Studio
[00:40] <tucemiux> prep, yes but i mean, what version? lucid is 10.04?
[00:41] <prep> I started with 10.04, added the Studio packages. Newbie here, please forgive
[00:44] <tucemiux> you "added" the studio packages?
[00:45] <prep> yes
[00:45] <prep> in Synaptic
[00:47] <tucemiux> so you mean you had ubuntu then installed ubuntustudio-desktop?
[00:48] <prep> yes, I selected all the Studio packages, then installed
[00:49] <tucemiux> prep, have you ever used jack?
[00:50] <prep> running right now
[00:51] <prep> ah, needs to be running to run the ohers
[00:51] <tucemiux> prep, exactly -- but not all
[00:52] <tucemiux> also, you might want to shut down other appz like firefox or mp3 players like amarok before you use those appz, pulse audio is supposed to let you use all those appz but doesnt really work from what I have seen
[00:52] <prep> ok. Have you used Buzztard? Holstein helped me with the PPA, but still says its locked when I try to install in terminal
[00:54] <tucemiux> never used buzztard but that's an issue someone in #ubuntu might be able to help you, its more of an ubuntu problem, i typicall use appz out of the box, that's why I use ubuntustudio, it has all the audio/sound appz I need without manual install
[02:26] <Wiesshund> Hi Blank__
[02:27] <Blank__> elo
[02:29] <Wiesshund> went to look at an mpeg2 encoder tool i found on line, and it was a win32 app of course, and wouldnt you know the damned thing was a replicating trojan. sorry bastards
[02:30] <Wiesshund> wish i could simply do the entire thing in studio, be alot simpler
[03:30] <Wiesshund> wow dont ask a desktop video related question in #video
[06:30] <prep> holstein?
[06:30] <holstein> hey prep :)
[06:31] <holstein> did you get that buzztard sorted?
[06:31] <prep> busy?
[06:31] <holstein> nah
[06:31]  * holstein watching dr who
[06:31] <prep> I did not, tried, still said it was locked after I got key
[06:31] <holstein> planning a server build
[06:31] <prep> nicee
[06:31] <holstein> prep: maybe you got the wrong key?
[06:31] <holstein> you used the one i linked here right?
[06:31] <holstein> i might have got the wrong one
[06:31] <prep> ? Who knows, I'm a newb to Linux
[06:32] <holstein> whats the PPA?
[06:32] <prep> I got the one from the ppa page
[06:33] <prep> ppa:gstreamer-developers/ppa
[06:33]  * holstein found it 
[06:33] <holstein> https://launchpad.net/~gstreamer-developers/+archive/ppa
[06:33] <holstein> SO
[06:33] <holstein> open up your sources list
[06:33] <holstein> go system admin sources
[06:34] <prep> where's that located?
[06:34] <holstein> system - administration - software sources
[06:34] <prep> found it
[06:34] <holstein> you can get to it in synaptic too
[06:34] <holstein> go to the authentication tab
[06:35] <holstein> do you see it in there?
[06:35] <holstein> that where it goes
[06:35] <prep> LaunchPad for PPA  developers
[06:35] <holstein> prep: let me try it and see if it works for me...
[06:41] <holstein> well
[06:41] <holstein> you can relax
[06:41] <holstein> its just not in that PPA
[06:42] <prep> weird
[06:42] <holstein> prep: i would do all of these steps though
[06:42] <holstein> http://www.buzztard.org/index.php/Building#Ubuntu
[06:42] <prep> wonder what the deal is? Would love to try it.
[06:43] <holstein> that guide implies that the gstremer updates needed are in that PPA
[06:43] <holstein> and the dependacies are listed that
[06:43] <holstein> and the dependacies are listed there*
[06:43] <holstein> apt-get install gtk-doc-tools libgconf2-dev libglib2.0-dev libgnomecanvas2-dev libgnomevfs2-dev libgsf-1-dev libgtk2.0-dev libgstreamer0.10-dev libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-dev libhal-dev liboil0.3-dev librsvg2-dev
[06:43] <prep> I tried that, got an error
[06:44] <prep> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root? spencercrawford@spencercrawford-laptop:~$
[06:44] <holstein> prep: from what?
[06:44] <holstein> OH
[06:45] <holstein> yeah, you gotta run apt as sudo
[06:45] <holstein> prep: anytime your installing something
[06:45] <holstein> and some build steps
[06:45] <holstein> you'll need to use sudo
[06:45] <holstein> prep: you get the sudo command?
[06:45] <holstein> you said you were coming from windows right?
[06:45] <prep> not exactly. No, OSX
[06:45] <holstein> AH
[06:45] <holstein> same deal then
[06:46] <holstein> over in OSX
[06:46] <holstein> say, your user is prep
[06:46] <holstein> if you want to install something
[06:46] <holstein> you need to enter an administrator password
[06:46] <holstein> in linux and OSX
[06:46] <holstein> typcially normal users arent allowed to do much
[06:47] <holstein> its safer that way
[06:47] <holstein> SO
[06:47] <holstein> we use the sudo command
[06:47] <prep> Ah got it. My password won't type, strange
[06:47] <holstein> that temporarily gives your normal user admin privs
[06:47] <holstein> prep: the password wont show
[06:48] <holstein> thats on purpose
[06:48] <prep> ok, done, ask Y/N to continue
[06:48] <holstein> so look at all the crap its trying to install
[06:48] <holstein> and think of how you would get rid of it
[06:48] <holstein> if something in there broke something
[06:49] <holstein> if it were my box
[06:49] <holstein> i would use the PPA purge tool
[06:49] <holstein> to get rid of that crap if needed
[06:49] <prep> What's that and what does it do?
[06:49] <holstein> you can use PPA purge in ubuntutweak
[06:49] <holstein> but thats only if you have problems
[06:49] <holstein> prep: just read all that
[06:49] <holstein> so you know whats going on
[06:50] <holstein> thats all the stuff you listed
[06:50] <holstein> and asked to be installed
[06:50] <holstein> with sudo apt-get install whatever
[06:50] <holstein> and the dependancies needed, if any
[06:50] <holstein> if you say, y
[06:50] <holstein> it'll be installed
[06:50] <holstein> theres just not an easy 'undo' for this
[06:50] <holstein> so, maybe say no
[06:50] <prep> 0 upgraded, 103 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 36.3MB of archives. After this operation, 144MB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue [Y/n]?
[06:51] <holstein> and read the rest of that guide
[06:51] <holstein> and decide if you want to take it on
[06:51] <prep> so app isn't worth messing with at this point?
[06:51] <holstein> building packages can be tricky
[06:51] <holstein> but its a learning experience
[06:51] <holstein> prep: whats it do?
[06:51] <prep> tell me about it. I need to pickup the Ubuntu book
[06:52] <prep> it's a audio tracker
[06:52] <holstein> so, whats it do?
[06:53] <holstein> tracker = recorder?
[06:53] <prep> yes, uses numerical data to trigger audio, like Renoise
[06:53] <holstein> did you ask about it over in #opensourcemusicians?
[06:53] <holstein> prep: nice
[06:53] <holstein> that sound cool
[06:53] <holstein> and ive looked for something like that
[06:53] <holstein> to trigger samples
[06:54] <holstein> with a qwerty keyboard
[06:55] <persia> vkeybd can do some for some keys (assuming you can trigger on note on events)
[06:55] <prep_> sorry net dropped
[06:55] <holstein> persia: sweet
[06:56] <prep_> what's persia?
[06:56]  * persia  
[06:56] <holstein> 01:54 < persia> vkeybd can do some for some keys (assuming you can trigger on note on events)
[06:56] <holstein> *while you were out ;)
[06:56] <holstein> also
[06:56] <holstein> 01:52 < holstein> did you ask about it over in #opensourcemusicians?
[06:56] <holstein> i just asked
[06:56] <prep_> I didn't
[06:57] <holstein> prep: try building it
[06:58] <prep_> I'll give it a shot in the AM
[06:58] <prep_> what do you think about System 76?
[06:58] <holstein> im gonna get something from them
[06:59] <holstein> its hard to pay a little more for something from them
[06:59] <holstein> but the quality is great
[07:00] <prep_> seems to be, think an i3 is enough for a Buntu box?
[07:00] <holstein> depends
[07:00] <holstein> i think its plenty
[07:00] <holstein> but im on a 9inch netbook right now
[07:01] <prep_> how's that running for you?
[07:01] <persia> Anything sold by system76 or zareason is more than enough to run Ubuntu.  That said, it may not be that any specific device is enough for your specific use cases.
[07:01] <holstein> probably more about specs
[07:01] <holstein> and what your going to do with it
[07:01] <holstein> i was an early adopter of the netbooks
[07:02] <holstein> i got a mininote with VIA chips
[07:02] <holstein> its a pain
[07:02] <holstein> but it works well acutally
[07:02] <holstein> and the EEEpc is great, and out-of=the-box easy
[07:03] <prep_> I just want power, waiting on Ardour 3 with MIDI, maybe add hardware synths, trigger/record/mix
[07:03] <prep_> I'm thinking Starling to start with, then the Ratel
[07:04] <holstein> does it have an express slot?
[07:04] <holstein> somewhere you can add firewire if you want?
[07:04] <holstein> OR better yet, does it have a firewire port
[07:04] <prep_> Starling does not
[07:04] <holstein> thats something you might be interested in down the road
[07:04] <prep_> no
[07:05] <prep_> all the FW pieces I want, aren't working at the moment with Linux
[07:05] <holstein> just a head up
[07:05] <holstein> USB devices usually just dont do the trick
[07:05] <holstein> for multitracking
[07:05] <holstein> again
[07:06] <holstein> depends on what you plan on doing
[07:06] <holstein> if its got an express slot you can add whatever later on
[07:06] <holstein> RME gear is well supported
[07:06] <holstein> and quite nice
[07:06] <prep_> what I've gathered
[07:07] <prep_> except the Fireface
[07:07] <holstein> yeah?
[07:07] <prep_> which I want. It would be the card and MultiFace
[07:07] <holstein> i thought they specifially supported linux
[07:07] <prep_> ffdao says no
[07:07] <holstein> i dont keep up with it much
[07:08]  * holstein not in the market for new gear yet
[07:08] <prep_> I may just keep djing, see what happens over the next year
[07:09] <holstein> w0w
[07:09] <holstein> yeah, im reading some links about that
[07:09] <holstein> i thought RME were friendlier to linux
[07:09] <holstein> ah well
[07:10] <holstein> the firepod is nice
[07:10] <holstein> works great
[07:10] <holstein> cant beat the price
[07:10] <prep_> Focusrite seems to be the best at the moment
[07:10] <prep_> at times it seems.
[07:11] <prep_> out of the box for the most part?
[07:12] <holstein> http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/SaffPro24/ looks pretty sweet
[07:12] <holstein> i got the firepod because its got preamps
[07:12] <holstein> they can be bypassed and you can use the balanced in's
[07:13] <holstein> but that was an affordable way for me to get 8 decent preamps going
[07:13] <holstein> firepod is out-of-the-box now
[07:19] <holstein> too bad the ffado support isnt there yet for the saffire pro24
[07:19] <holstein> these companies *gotta* start releasing some linux drivers
[12:34] <Nova_deViator> hi. so what's the deal with firewire and ffado in ubuntu? i had edirol FA101 working in 09.10, but now its fscked,
[12:35] <Nova_deViator> i can see the device with ffado tools, but jack just cannot make it
[12:37] <Nova_deViator> libffado 2.0.0 built Mar 31 2010 14:47:42
[12:37] <Nova_deViator> firewire ERR: Error creating FFADO streaming device
[12:38] <Nova_deViator> i get this on 2.6.32-24-generic-pae and linux-image-2.6.31-11-rt
[12:39] <Nova_deViator> should i try https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/maverick/i386/ffado-tools/2.0.1+svn1856-1ubuntu1
[12:39] <Nova_deViator> ?
[12:40] <Nova_deViator> how can i test if i have the old firewire stack with linux-image-2.6.31-11-rt ?
[19:45] <markie-> would anybody here like to share their music they've made in ubuntustudio with me?
[20:21] <TerrenceKJ>  Hi all I've got Ubuntu 10.4 installed. I use this mostly for multimedia and web browsing - Will I gain anything by using ubuntu studio instead
[20:31] <plotino> hi guys
[20:31] <plotino> how to change the file association?
[20:32] <plotino> in few words, how to associate which application has to open that file?
[20:32] <crysaz> plotino: 2.nd click on the file -> properties -> open with
[20:35] <plotino> m
[20:35] <plotino> because i have some problems with torrent files
[20:36] <plotino> ah ok
[20:36] <plotino> the problem was from firefox
[20:37] <plotino> firefox is not able to use vuze to open torrent files
[21:04] <histo> Does ubuntu studio have a page of changes coming?
[22:01] <holstein> markie-: sure
[22:02]  * holstein will link a short 30 second thing
[22:02] <holstein> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1172535/groove.ogg
[22:03] <holstein> histo: im not sure if there is an official page yet
[22:05] <holstein> i think alot of what falktx has done with http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/ will be in 10.10
[22:05] <holstein> jack2 and pulse jack bridge
[23:45] <illytacos> hello hello, I have a pretty common problem from what I read in the forums but I tried a bunch of options in the forum without any luck whatsoever. I am not able to connect to the internet which I read is a common problem. I tried reinstalling ubuntu studio with a hardwire connection without luck, I've tried installing network manager from cd... but no luck. Is there something I'm missing? And thanks!!!