bcurtiswx | launchpad is awfully slow for me | 02:06 |
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lifeless | bcurtiswx: hi | 02:25 |
lifeless | bcurtiswx: we're working on performance, there are two broad problems | 02:25 |
lifeless | we have some ssh tweaks to make | 02:25 |
lifeless | and many specific pages are slow. what pages are you finding slow ? | 02:25 |
bcurtiswx | lifeless, awesome, thx for the info, have a good night :) | 02:25 |
lifeless | s/ssh/ssl/ above | 02:25 |
bcurtiswx | um, sometimes its OK, sometimes not | 02:25 |
bcurtiswx | like bzr branch lp:ubuntu/folks _was_ slow | 02:26 |
lifeless | ok | 02:26 |
lifeless | well, please do report specific things that are slow anytime | 02:26 |
lifeless | we'll have a look and see if its a known issue or a new one | 02:27 |
lifeless | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-project/+bugs?field.tag=timeout | 02:27 |
lifeless | is our list of known problem-pages | 02:27 |
bcurtiswx | lifeless, OK , thx | 02:30 |
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nigelb | hi, is anyone working on the google maps client Id thing? | 07:40 |
nigelb | or is it a google mess up... | 07:41 |
spm | nigelb: I'm actually about to roll out the fix that in the next 30 mins | 07:43 |
spm | fix *for* that... | 07:43 |
nigelb | spm: yay, whats was the problem? v2 being deprecated? | 07:43 |
nigelb | *what | 07:44 |
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hrw | hi | 12:40 |
hrw | is there a way to upload source package to PPA and not build it? | 12:40 |
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persia | hrw, Set "Architecture: none" in debian/control, but this may cause other issues. Why would you want that? | 12:59 |
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hrw | persia: just curious | 13:06 |
persia | Setting an invalid Architecture string shouldn't cause any builds, but it may cause any number of errors. I wouldn't do it unless you had a very good reason. | 13:08 |
wgrant | A PPA upload resulting in no builds will also be rejected simply for having no builds. | 13:12 |
hrw | good that source packages which fail to build are not removed | 13:18 |
persia | heh, so the correct answer is add dh_auto_build:\n\texit 1 to debian/rules :) | 13:31 |
hrw | persia: not quite | 13:51 |
hrw | persia: my package builds fine but ppa upload scripts do not like results so reject them | 13:51 |
hrw | persia: but I have user for source packages and ppa gives him signed repo | 13:52 |
persia | Oh, fail-to-upload? Are you building on one architecture and hoping to have the packages in another? | 13:52 |
hrw | more complicated | 13:52 |
persia | heh | 13:52 |
hrw | persia: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/54624644/upload_1942031_log.txt | 13:53 |
persia | Oh, namespace collisions. | 13:54 |
hrw | I have ugly hacky work around for it | 13:55 |
hrw | will push for rebuild after local tests | 13:55 |
al | why is it, that i can't set the export target on <https://translations.launchpad.net/quassel/i18n-master/+link-translations-branch> to <lp:~quassel-dev/quassel/quassel-i18n-lpexp>? | 14:10 |
exarkun | Why can't I see any loom data when I check out nosmart+bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~exarkun/+junk/modules ? | 14:14 |
danilos | al: you have to set it to a branch you own directly, and then you can move the branch to the team (bug 407260) | 14:25 |
ubot5 | Launchpad bug 407260 in Launchpad Translations "Translations export branch can't be team-owned (affected: 9, heat: 30)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/407260 | 14:25 |
al | danilos: argh. thanks! | 14:25 |
danilos | al: if it's an already existing branch, you can move it around a few times from the team to you and back :) | 14:25 |
al | "Translations export branch updated." - amazing. | 14:29 |
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SpamapS | I am suspecting the answer is no to this, because I can't find any docs on it. Does the launchpad API support JSONP ? | 17:55 |
maxb | What is JSONP? | 17:56 |
SpamapS | basically lets you get around the same-origin restriction | 17:57 |
SpamapS | say I wanted to add an AJAX sourced window with my assigned bugs, but on my personal site.. | 17:57 |
SpamapS | right now I have to iframe that or something silly. But w/ jsonp, you basically are using the <script> tag to call a remote API | 17:58 |
mfraz74 | What is happening with the Google Earth API change? | 18:03 |
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Hsn2020 | hi | 20:04 |
Hsn2020 | is one of the admins here? | 20:04 |
beuno | Hsn2020, what's up? | 20:05 |
Hsn2020 | in lanuchpad answers | 20:05 |
Hsn2020 | can you remove the tow buttons for add answer | 20:06 |
Hsn2020 | sorry one button | 20:06 |
Hsn2020 | because some people misuse it | 20:07 |
Hsn2020 | beuno, are you there? | 20:08 |
beuno | Hsn2020, what do you mean? from where? | 20:08 |
Hsn2020 | some time people want to help but the understand the question wrongly and click it | 20:09 |
Hsn2020 | this mean the answer they gave is wrong and the one who asked it will never get the correct answer | 20:11 |
beuno | Hsn2020, ah, I see, you mean as a generally usability issue | 20:12 |
beuno | it's an interesting thought | 20:12 |
beuno | I'd file a bug explaining this | 20:12 |
beuno | maybe it needs a confirmation dialog | 20:13 |
Hsn2020 | i have once as a noob clicked the add answer that have acomment | 20:13 |
Hsn2020 | confirmation dialog is a good idea | 20:17 |
Hsn2020 | or make a team to reviews the answer and confirm them | 20:19 |
beuno | sure, that's more of a policy thing there rather than software | 20:19 |
beuno | I assume you mean all of this under the Ubuntu project? | 20:20 |
Hsn2020 | usually | 20:20 |
Hsn2020 | it is just an idea for more quality | 20:21 |
beuno | sure, I think filing a bug is a good start | 20:22 |
Hsn2020 | ok i am going to report it as a bug | 20:24 |
Hsn2020 | thanks | 20:24 |
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seb128 | hi | 22:31 |
seb128 | I'm getting email spam from bug #278525 even week or so | 22:32 |
ubot5 | Launchpad bug 278525 in rhythmbox (Ubuntu) "some error (affected: 0, heat: 7)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/278525 | 22:32 |
seb128 | those emails have title like "[Bug 278525] I've never seen anything like this before" | 22:32 |
seb128 | coming from "kheewabrar <kheewabrar@gmail.com>" | 22:32 |
seb128 | with justification | 22:32 |
seb128 | "You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to rhythmbox in ubuntu." | 22:32 |
seb128 | does somebody has any clue why those are sent and why they don't show on the ui? | 22:33 |
ddaa | hey there | 22:36 |
maxb | urgh, really?! | 22:36 |
ddaa | I heard about this pqm-like thingy for launchpad, called "tarmac". | 22:36 |
maxb | Someone has registered a project 'mediawiki-1.16' | 22:36 |
ddaa | is that scheduled for implementation soon, or is that up in the air? | 22:37 |
maxb | How can people be so confused about what constitutes a project?! | 22:37 |
maxb | ddaa: https://edge.launchpad.net/tarmac exists already | 22:37 |
exarkun | maxb: because it's a fairly generic english language word? | 22:37 |
ddaa | maxb: maybe because people do not understand anything about the whole way launchpad has its idea of modelling the world | 22:37 |
exarkun | maxb: that launchpad has chosen to turn into a specific piece of jargon? | 22:37 |
exarkun | maxb: without presenting clear unavoidable documentation about? | 22:38 |
Lcawte | eww, Launchpad confuses me at the moment.. (yes, I hate reading documentation) | 22:38 |
ddaa | and instead just go the simplest route to creating the thing they need, without wondering how that fits in the Grand Model. | 22:38 |
maxb | The distinction of project != version seems fairly fundamentally clear to me :-/ | 22:39 |
maxb | perhaps I'm just too steeped in the software developer's mindset | 22:39 |
ddaa | maxb: you need to know there is such a thing about a project/version model in launchpad | 22:39 |
ddaa | and how they relate | 22:39 |
exarkun | developing and releasing a new version of a piece of software _is_ a project | 22:40 |
maxb | hmm | 22:43 |
ddaa | Personally, I don't understand what's so difficult about metaclasses and descriptors in Python. Well, I don't understand it anymore after I wrapped my brains around them. | 22:43 |
maxb | Evidently my brain is too Launchpad-shaped to see some of its pitfalls | 22:43 |
thumper | Lcawte: what do you need help with | 22:44 |
thumper | ? | 22:44 |
thumper | hi ddaa | 22:44 |
ddaa | hi thumper | 22:44 |
Lcawte | thumper: nothing much, I'll get my head around it eventually :) | 22:44 |
maxb | Ah, it appears Lcawte was the registrant of the project that made me exclaim :-) | 22:44 |
Lcawte | maxb: sssshhh! :P | 22:45 |
Lcawte | I am not here.. look... | 22:45 |
maxb | urgh, we really need to canonicalize URLs before we do the "You can't request code imports for things already imported" check | 22:47 |
ddaa | weird, I think I DID code exactly that a few years ago | 22:48 |
ddaa | but canonicalization of URLs generally is pretty much intractable | 22:48 |
ddaa | and I'm not even talking about cvs or svn locations | 22:49 |
maxb | We can at least normalize trailing directory slashes :-) | 22:50 |
maxb | Which account for a metaphorical 99% of the problem | 22:50 |
ddaa | yeah, I'm pretty sure that's what I did | 22:50 |
Lcawte | Ubuntu Maverick, am I right in guessing thats the next Ubuntu release dev? | 22:50 |
thumper | ddaa: well, no actually | 22:50 |
ddaa | or maybe that was only for mirror branches, not code imports | 22:50 |
thumper | ddaa: the idea was there, but it doesn't work | 22:51 |
thumper | mainly due to the way that code imports don't use the same form validation code | 22:51 |
thumper | due to the way they update their own data | 22:51 |
ddaa | O.O | 22:51 |
* ddaa thinks he should maybe be glad of having forgotten so much about this code | 22:52 | |
maxb | Lcawte: Maverick is the current in-development Ubuntu release, yes | 22:52 |
Lcawte | k, right.. and the whole Launchpad thing is like some web platform for the development of packages and things for Ubuntu.. ? /me hates reading docs, but that one seems pretty important :/ | 22:53 |
ddaa | Not really. Ubuntu is a major stakeholder, and has lots of specific support, but Launchpad goes to lengths to be useful to upstreams has an ubuntu-agnostic hosting. | 22:54 |
ddaa | s/has/as/ | 22:55 |
thumper | ddaa: what are you up to these days? | 22:56 |
ddaa | hacking on some application tracking webapp for recruiters, start-up stuff | 22:56 |
wgrant | Lcawte: Launchpad provides bug tracking, code hosting and other facilities to many projects. | 22:56 |
ddaa | not really taking off yet | 22:56 |
wgrant | Lcawte: Ubuntu is one of these, and it also uses it for building packages. | 22:56 |
ddaa | big pile of ugly untested legacy code | 22:57 |
ddaa | taking latin dancing lessons, and generally becoming less and less geeky as years pass. | 22:58 |
Lcawte | ok.. so Ubuntu packages, how do they work from Launchpad? You use the launchpad system and they get submitted to the package repo ? | 22:58 |
ddaa | (though that's not saying this much, considering how geeky I was to start with) | 22:59 |
wgrant | Lcawte: You upload a source package to Launchpad. It builds binaries from that source, and publishes them in a repository. | 22:59 |
ddaa | thumper: and you? | 22:59 |
thumper | ddaa: I'm still here... working on code | 23:00 |
ddaa | you got out of the management stuff? | 23:00 |
thumper | ddaa: wanting to smack loggerhead around | 23:00 |
thumper | ddaa: not really | 23:00 |
thumper | ddaa: but still managing to get some hacking time in | 23:01 |
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ddaa | loggerhead does not like pqm: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~pqm-dev/pqm/trunk/annotate/head:/bin/pqm | 23:39 |
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