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bcurtiswxlaunchpad is awfully slow for me02:06
lifelessbcurtiswx: hi02:25
lifelessbcurtiswx: we're working on performance, there are two broad problems02:25
lifelesswe have some ssh tweaks to make02:25
lifelessand many specific pages are slow. what pages are you finding slow ?02:25
bcurtiswxlifeless, awesome, thx for the info, have a good night :)02:25
lifelesss/ssh/ssl/ above02:25
bcurtiswxum, sometimes its OK, sometimes not02:25
bcurtiswxlike bzr branch lp:ubuntu/folks _was_ slow02:26
lifelessok02:26
lifelesswell, please do report specific things that are slow anytime02:26
lifelesswe'll have a  look and see if its a known issue or a new one02:27
lifelesshttps://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-project/+bugs?field.tag=timeout02:27
lifelessis our list of known problem-pages02:27
bcurtiswxlifeless, OK , thx02:30
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nigelbhi, is anyone working on the google maps client Id thing?07:40
nigelbor is it a google mess up...07:41
spmnigelb: I'm actually about to roll out the fix that in the next 30 mins07:43
spmfix *for* that...07:43
nigelbspm: yay, whats was the problem? v2 being deprecated?07:43
nigelb*what07:44
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hrwhi12:40
hrwis there a way to upload source package to PPA and not build it?12:40
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persiahrw, Set "Architecture: none" in debian/control, but this may cause other issues.  Why would you want that?12:59
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hrwpersia: just curious13:06
persiaSetting an invalid Architecture string shouldn't cause any builds, but it may cause any number of errors.  I wouldn't do it unless you had a very good reason.13:08
wgrantA PPA upload resulting in no builds will also be rejected simply for having no builds.13:12
hrwgood that source packages which fail to build are not removed13:18
persiaheh, so the correct answer is add dh_auto_build:\n\texit 1 to debian/rules :)13:31
hrwpersia: not quite13:51
hrwpersia: my package builds fine but ppa upload scripts do not like results so reject them13:51
hrwpersia: but I have user for source packages and ppa gives him signed repo13:52
persiaOh, fail-to-upload?  Are you building on one architecture and hoping to have the packages in another?13:52
hrwmore complicated13:52
persiaheh13:52
hrwpersia: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/54624644/upload_1942031_log.txt13:53
persiaOh, namespace collisions.13:54
hrwI have ugly hacky work around for it13:55
hrwwill push for rebuild after local tests13:55
alwhy is it, that i can't set the export target on <https://translations.launchpad.net/quassel/i18n-master/+link-translations-branch> to <lp:~quassel-dev/quassel/quassel-i18n-lpexp>?14:10
exarkunWhy can't I see any loom data when I check out nosmart+bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~exarkun/+junk/modules ?14:14
danilosal: you have to set it to a branch you own directly, and then you can move the branch to the team (bug 407260)14:25
ubot5Launchpad bug 407260 in Launchpad Translations "Translations export branch can't be team-owned (affected: 9, heat: 30)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/40726014:25
aldanilos: argh. thanks!14:25
danilosal: if it's an already existing branch, you can move it around a few times from the team to you and back :)14:25
al"Translations export branch updated." - amazing.14:29
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SpamapSI am suspecting the answer is no to this, because I can't find any docs on it. Does the launchpad API support JSONP ?17:55
maxbWhat is JSONP?17:56
SpamapSbasically lets you get around the same-origin restriction17:57
SpamapSsay I wanted to add an AJAX sourced window with my assigned bugs, but on my personal site..17:57
SpamapSright now I have to iframe that or something silly. But w/ jsonp, you basically are using the <script> tag to call a remote API17:58
mfraz74What is happening with the Google Earth API change?18:03
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Hsn2020hi20:04
Hsn2020is one of the admins here?20:04
beunoHsn2020, what's up?20:05
Hsn2020in lanuchpad answers20:05
Hsn2020can you remove the tow buttons for add answer20:06
Hsn2020sorry one button20:06
Hsn2020because some people misuse it20:07
Hsn2020beuno, are you there?20:08
beunoHsn2020, what do you mean?  from where?20:08
Hsn2020some time people want to help but the understand the question wrongly and click it20:09
Hsn2020this mean the answer they gave is wrong and the one who asked it will never get the correct answer20:11
beunoHsn2020, ah, I see, you mean as a generally usability issue20:12
beunoit's an interesting thought20:12
beunoI'd file a bug explaining this20:12
beunomaybe it needs a confirmation dialog20:13
Hsn2020i have once as a noob clicked the add answer that have acomment20:13
Hsn2020confirmation dialog is a good idea20:17
Hsn2020or make a team to reviews the answer and confirm them20:19
beunosure, that's more of a policy thing there rather than software20:19
beunoI assume you mean all of this under the Ubuntu project?20:20
Hsn2020usually20:20
Hsn2020it is just an idea for more quality20:21
beunosure, I think filing a bug is a good start20:22
Hsn2020ok i am going to report it as a bug20:24
Hsn2020thanks20:24
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seb128hi22:31
seb128I'm getting email spam from bug #278525 even week or so22:32
ubot5Launchpad bug 278525 in rhythmbox (Ubuntu) "some error (affected: 0, heat: 7)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27852522:32
seb128those emails have title like "[Bug 278525] I've never seen anything like this before"22:32
seb128coming from "kheewabrar <kheewabrar@gmail.com>"22:32
seb128with justification22:32
seb128"You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to rhythmbox in ubuntu."22:32
seb128does somebody has any clue why those are sent and why they don't show on the ui?22:33
ddaahey there22:36
maxburgh, really?!22:36
ddaaI heard about this pqm-like thingy for launchpad, called "tarmac".22:36
maxbSomeone has registered a project 'mediawiki-1.16'22:36
ddaais that scheduled for implementation soon, or is that up in the air?22:37
maxbHow can people be so confused about what constitutes a project?!22:37
maxbddaa: https://edge.launchpad.net/tarmac exists already22:37
exarkunmaxb: because it's a fairly generic english language word?22:37
ddaamaxb: maybe because people do not understand anything about the whole way launchpad has its idea of modelling the world22:37
exarkunmaxb: that launchpad has chosen to turn into a specific piece of jargon?22:37
exarkunmaxb: without presenting clear unavoidable documentation about?22:38
Lcawteeww, Launchpad confuses me at the moment.. (yes, I hate reading documentation)22:38
ddaaand instead just go the simplest route to creating the thing they need, without wondering how that fits in the Grand Model.22:38
maxbThe distinction of project != version seems fairly fundamentally clear to me :-/22:39
maxbperhaps I'm just too steeped in the software developer's mindset22:39
ddaamaxb: you need to know there is such a thing about a project/version model in launchpad22:39
ddaaand how they relate22:39
exarkundeveloping and releasing a new version of a piece of software _is_ a project22:40
maxbhmm22:43
ddaaPersonally, I don't understand what's so difficult about metaclasses and descriptors in Python. Well, I don't understand it anymore after I wrapped my brains around them.22:43
maxbEvidently my brain is too Launchpad-shaped to see some of its pitfalls22:43
thumperLcawte: what do you need help with22:44
thumper?22:44
thumperhi ddaa22:44
ddaahi thumper22:44
Lcawtethumper: nothing much, I'll get my head around it eventually :)22:44
maxbAh, it appears Lcawte was the registrant of the project that made me exclaim :-)22:44
Lcawtemaxb: sssshhh! :P22:45
LcawteI am not here.. look...22:45
maxburgh, we really need to canonicalize URLs before we do the "You can't request code imports for things already imported" check22:47
ddaaweird, I think I DID code exactly that a few years ago22:48
ddaabut canonicalization of URLs generally is pretty much intractable22:48
ddaaand I'm not even talking about cvs or svn locations22:49
maxbWe can at least normalize trailing directory slashes :-)22:50
maxbWhich account for a metaphorical 99% of the problem22:50
ddaayeah, I'm pretty sure that's what I did22:50
LcawteUbuntu Maverick, am I right in guessing thats the next Ubuntu release dev?22:50
thumperddaa: well, no actually22:50
ddaaor maybe that was only for mirror branches, not code imports22:50
thumperddaa: the idea was there, but it doesn't work22:51
thumpermainly due to the way that code imports don't use the same form validation code22:51
thumperdue to the way they update their own data22:51
ddaaO.O22:51
* ddaa thinks he should maybe be glad of having forgotten so much about this code22:52
maxbLcawte: Maverick is the current in-development Ubuntu release, yes22:52
Lcawtek, right.. and the whole Launchpad thing is like some web platform for the development of packages and things for Ubuntu.. ? /me hates reading docs, but that one seems pretty important :/22:53
ddaaNot really. Ubuntu is a major stakeholder, and has lots of specific support, but Launchpad goes to lengths to be useful to upstreams has an ubuntu-agnostic hosting.22:54
ddaas/has/as/22:55
thumperddaa: what are you up to these days?22:56
ddaahacking on some application tracking webapp for recruiters, start-up stuff22:56
wgrantLcawte: Launchpad provides bug tracking, code hosting and other facilities to many projects.22:56
ddaanot really taking off yet22:56
wgrantLcawte: Ubuntu is one of these, and it also uses it for building packages.22:56
ddaabig pile of ugly untested legacy code22:57
ddaataking latin dancing lessons, and generally becoming less and less geeky as years pass.22:58
Lcawteok.. so Ubuntu packages, how do they work from Launchpad? You use the launchpad system and they get submitted to the package repo ?22:58
ddaa(though that's not saying this much, considering how geeky I was to start with)22:59
wgrantLcawte: You upload a source package to Launchpad. It builds binaries from that source, and publishes them in a repository.22:59
ddaathumper: and you?22:59
thumperddaa: I'm still here... working on code23:00
ddaayou got out of the management stuff?23:00
thumperddaa: wanting to smack loggerhead around23:00
thumperddaa: not really23:00
thumperddaa: but still managing to get some hacking time in23:01
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ddaaloggerhead does not like pqm: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~pqm-dev/pqm/trunk/annotate/head:/bin/pqm23:39

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