[00:29] <hggdh> yofel: who is Il Idrissi (meaning what is the nick here)?
[00:31] <yofel> hggdh: devildante ;)
[00:31] <hggdh> Darn!
[00:32] <hggdh> devildante: I see you submitted an application to -control ;-)
[00:33]  * sbeattie curses grub-pc postinst+debconf for getting confused and not accepting any input.
[00:34] <hggdh> sbeattie: do you consider a bug is warranted for apache2?
[00:34] <sbeattie> hggdh: I think so, you ought to be able to restart apache from a script.
[00:35] <hggdh> sbeattie: ack, opening
[00:45] <hggdh> sbeattie: bug 627142 opened
[00:45] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 627142 in apache2 (Ubuntu) "Apache2 init.d script runs 'stty sane', which will fail on script runs (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/627142
[00:46] <devildante> hggdh, yofel: I'll stop bugging you with triage requests if you approve me :p
[00:46] <hggdh> devildante: you have just been approved :-)
[00:47] <devildante> Hooray!
[00:47] <hggdh> devildante: so now you can stop bugging we all for triage requests. Just use your power with sanity ;-)
[00:48] <devildante> hggdh: count on me :)
[00:48] <hggdh> devildante: I -- better, *we* -- are counting on you :-)
[00:48] <devildante> ;)
[00:48]  * devildante is very, very happy :)
[00:49]  * hggdh also
[00:49]  * devildante hugs hggdh
[00:49] <hggdh> sbeattie: I am not sure you really want to know, but I had two failures on mpm-prefork
[00:49]  * hggdh hugs devildante back
[00:50] <devildante> yofel: about the kernel bug, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/KernelTeamBugPolicies#Triaged Bugs
[00:51] <devildante> yofel, kernel bug triage is different from normal bugs, for example, you shouldn't set a bug duplicate of another unless you're a kernel expert
[00:52] <yofel> I know that, that's why I usually don't touch kernel bugs
[00:52] <devildante> yofel, this is because every reporter have different configurations
[00:52] <yofel> I know :P
[00:54] <devildante> just wanted to inform you ;)
[00:55]  * devildante does not need you anyway, he's recently got power to destroy the world :p
[01:00] <bcurtiswx> devildante, was that your app for bug control going through the list?
[01:01] <devildante> bcurtiswx: yeah :)
[01:01] <bcurtiswx> Congrats :)
[01:01] <devildante> thanks :)
[01:01]  * devildante hugs bcurtiswx
[01:04] <bcurtiswx> devildante, do you have a package you're going to focus on?
[01:04] <devildante> bcurtiswx: no, I'm a random guy
[01:04] <devildante> bcurtiswx: but I like more high-level stuff
[01:04] <devildante> (desktop, etc)
[01:05] <bcurtiswx> devildante, great.  We're glad to have you aboard.
[01:05] <devildante> heh :)
[01:07]  * micahg wonders where pedro is
[01:11] <devildante> micahg: I'd be glad to help you :)
[01:11] <micahg> devildante: I have nothing to apologize to you for :)
[01:12] <devildante> ah
[01:13]  * bcurtiswx takes on the bytes of pedro
[01:14] <bcurtiswx> how can i help you micahg? :P
[01:23] <hggdh> micahg: Pedro has already left for the day
[01:27] <micahg> hggdh: k :)
[01:38] <bcurtiswx> micahg, is there a FFX4 PPA i can try out?
[01:38] <micahg> bcurtiswx: only dailies ATM
[01:39] <bcurtiswx> micahg, OK, atm meaning another one will be created soon?
[01:39] <micahg> bcurtiswx: yes
[01:39] <micahg> bcurtiswx: I'll have a beta PPA soon
[01:39] <bcurtiswx> micahg: OK, awesome.  I'll keep my eyes open
[01:42] <nigelb> sigh @ iceweasel
[01:42] <nigelb> I miss firefox
[01:42] <micahg> nigelb: use Ubuntu :P
[01:43] <nigelb> micahg: doesnt run on this ancient $foo
[01:43] <micahg> nigelb: I'd be interested to find out what that ancient $foo is, but later
[01:44] <nigelb> micahg: heh
[01:45] <devildante> nigelb: I'm interested, please tell me :)
[01:45] <nigelb> devildante: heard of lucid freezes with intel 8xx cards/
[01:45] <nigelb> ?
[01:45] <bcurtiswx> anyone here wanna test out a bzr branch, im getting connection errors, want to make sure its not just me
[01:45] <devildante> nigelb: yeah, that
[01:46] <devildante> bcurtiswx: sure
[01:47] <bcurtiswx> LP is _really_ slow right now
[01:47] <bcurtiswx> devildante, try bzr branch lp:ubuntu/folks
[01:49] <devildante> bcurtiswx: it's normal speed for me
[01:49] <bcurtiswx> devildante, OK thx
[01:50]  * bcurtiswx kicks verizon FiOS
[01:50] <nigelb> heh
[05:17] <drew212> vish: my bugsquad mentorship is due to expire =X
[07:36] <vish> drew212: oh no! you are not getting away that easy! ;)
[10:58] <vish> hggdh: can we close old crashers [1yr old] from new -> invalid ?  just because they are old and no dups yet?
[10:59] <vish> or rather do we..?
[11:37] <persia> vish, Nope.  Try to replicate.  Read the stacktrace to make sure you've constructed the right envionrment, etc.
[11:38]  * persia has *fixed* crashers > 2 years old found laying about on LP
[11:38] <vish> persia: yeah , my thoughts too. but my bug was closed, and i noticed a pattern of similar bugs being closed, so was wondering if there was a new rule.
[11:41] <persia> Shouldn't be.  Protest it if someone thinks there is such a rule.
[12:02] <vish> om26er: any reason we now closing old telepathy bugs? directly from new -> invalid ?
[12:04] <vish> *are now
[12:04] <nigelb> vish: sigh.  No response from mentees :(
[12:04] <vish> nigelb: lucky you ;p
[12:05] <nigelb> vish: haha, that is one way to see it.
[12:28] <vish> om26er seems like you  timed out and missed my message :s
[12:29] <om26er> vish, didnt get any
[12:29] <vish> om26er: yeah, irc is too old ;)  anyways...any reason we are now closing old telepathy bugs? directly from new -> invalid ?
[12:30] <om26er> vish, hm reported for Karmic, no duplicate and much stable these days ;)
[12:30] <om26er> vish, there are quite a few telepathy bugs just hanging around
[12:31] <vish> om26er: but we usually dont do that anywhere.. was wondering my bug was closed Bug #408913
[12:31] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 408913 in telepathy-idle (Ubuntu) "telepathy-idle crashed with SIGSEGV in g_main_context_dispatch() (affects: 10) (dups: 1) (heat: 56)" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/408913
[12:31] <vish> om26er: i just noticed that there were 9 others who have marked as affected..
[12:31] <om26er> tp-idle is stable now
[12:32] <om26er> it was not previosly
[12:32] <vish> om26er: anyway, its not about that bug in question.. if you had asked i would have replied i dont use empathy for irc now  ;)
[12:32] <vish> om26er: but i dint know we had that new policy of closing bugs if they are old
[12:32] <om26er> vish, guessed that
[12:33] <vish> om26er: i dont think we are supposed to close like that, esp crashers...
[12:33] <om26er> vish, there were a few exceptions taken for telepathy components today
[12:35] <om26er> vish, roger ;)
[12:35] <om26er> so who's going UDS ?
[12:35] <om26er> vish, ^^
[12:36] <om26er> thats quite a quit message
[12:45] <om26er> seb128, Hi! about telepathy-logger not being installed causing empathy to not start. will it be added to depends or there is another solution?
[12:46] <om26er> tp-logger is in the ISO but people still dont seem to have it installed in there systems
[12:47] <seb128> it's in the recommends and recommends are installed by default
[12:47] <seb128> those people probably use non standard way to do upgrades
[12:48] <seb128> I guess we can move it to a depends but that will be after beta
[12:48] <om26er> seb128, ok thanks :)
[12:48] <seb128> np
[12:49] <seb128> we might have an issue with libdconf0 not being on the current iso though
[12:49] <om26er> ya its not in the daily build
[13:02] <vish> !test
[13:02] <ubot2> hrm?
[13:37] <devildante> hi all :)
[14:12] <tbsdy_lives> hi folks... are there any openoffice.org dbgsyms?
[14:14] <jpds> tbsdy_lives: There should be on ddebs.ubuntu.com
[14:14] <tbsdy_lives> ah!
[14:15] <tbsdy_lives> ummm... silly question, how do I get them? through apt?
[14:16] <jpds> You can set something like "deb http://debbs.ubuntu.com/ubuntu lucid main" in sources.list
[14:16] <tbsdy_lives> thanx
[14:44]  * nigelb lol @ mail to bug controol
[14:44] <nigelb> "And i think this bug must be fixed for beta."
[14:45] <persia> That's a good thought.  All bugs should be fixed for beta.
[14:46] <persia> (not going to happen, especially because the freeze is rapidly becoming very hard)
[14:47] <nigelb> Looking at the bug though, I understand why it should be high priority
[14:47] <nigelb> bug 625793
[14:47] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 625793 in indicator-application (and 1 other project) "sometimes keyboard layout automatically changed (affects: 3) (heat: 14)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/625793
[14:47] <nigelb> if I were a user affected with that bug, I may not even be able to login.
[14:50] <persia> Oh, yeah.  I should track down my bug related to that.  I can't usefully type some characters in maverick (maybe the same thing)
[14:53] <nigelb> Perhaps
[14:56]  * nigelb hugs devildante :)
[14:56]  * devildante hugs back nigelb :)
[14:57] <nigelb> Nice reply :)
[14:57]  * nigelb clicks 'Discard'
[14:58] <devildante> you're cheating!
[14:58] <nigelb> Well, half way through I got a note telling you replied :D :D
[15:07] <bcurtiswx> my '0' key tends to sometimes work and sometimes not
[15:07] <bcurtiswx> makes explaining financial figured pretty hard :P
[15:07] <bcurtiswx> figures*
[15:09] <charlie-tca> hmm, use the capital O instead? (as long it isn't doing calculations) ;-)
[15:22] <tbsdy_lives> hi, I got a backtrace for bug 626755...
[15:22] <ubot2> tbsdy_lives: Bug 626755 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/626755 is private
[15:22] <tbsdy_lives> how do I switch it to non-private?
[15:22] <tbsdy_lives> ah!
[15:22] <tbsdy_lives> no longer private
[15:22] <tbsdy_lives> bug 626755
[15:22] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 626755 in openoffice.org (Ubuntu) "Opened .docx I downloaded from Microsoft, and soffice.bin crashed with SIGSEGV in SwXTextRange::~SwXTextRange() (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/626755
[15:27] <devildante> tbsdy_lives: it seems there is a bigger problem. If you launch openoffice.org and you click on File > Open, it will crash
[15:29] <charlie-tca> jibel: or anyone else that can help... bug 627300 has an empty dpkg terminal log. It was reported against a live image on usb with persistance. What logs do we ask for?
[15:29] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 627300 in nvidia-graphics-drivers (Ubuntu) "package nvidia-current 195.36.15-0ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/627300
[15:30] <micahg> tbsdy_lives: bugs with core dumps shouldn't be public
[15:30] <tbsdy_lives> whoa... folks, there's an entirely trivial to reproduce issue with cpio!
[15:30] <tbsdy_lives> micahg, why so? I don't have anything important in that coredump
[15:30] <micahg> tbsdy_lives: how do you know?
[15:31] <tbsdy_lives> because it's a coredump of openoffice.org, which I've only ever used for opening technical, public documents
[15:31] <tbsdy_lives> you can remove it if you want
[15:31] <tbsdy_lives> I've got a full backtrace already
[15:32] <tbsdy_lives> er... look at bug 186336
[15:32] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 186336 in ubuntu-nl-website "standaard geen firewall" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186336
[15:32] <tbsdy_lives> er... look at bug 186366 I mean
[15:32] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 186366 in cpio (Ubuntu) "cpio segfaults with "-E" on a non-existing file (heat: 3)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186366
[15:32] <tbsdy_lives> cpio -E no_such_file -t
[15:32] <tbsdy_lives> segfault
[15:33] <tbsdy_lives> who maintains cpio?
[15:34] <hggdh> tbsdy_lives: coredumps may contain sensitive data from your system (from the common core areas)
[15:34] <tbsdy_lives> fair enough
[15:34] <tbsdy_lives> I'll remove it then
[15:34] <hggdh> tbsdy_lives: like encryption keys, etc
[15:34] <jibel> charlie-tca, you can ask to reproduce the bug from the console and attach the output, otherwise the report is useless.
[15:34] <tbsdy_lives> okey dokey... I'll remove it :-)
[15:34] <charlie-tca> jibel: Thank you
[15:34] <hggdh> tbsdy_lives: was this a bug opened with apport
[15:34] <ashams> hello all
[15:34] <hggdh> (via apport, I mean)
[15:35] <tbsdy_lives> ah... actually, how do I remove it?
[15:36] <ashams> I'm new to bug Triagging and I need to ask a question can someone help me?
[15:36] <nigelb> ashams: ask away
[15:37] <tbsdy_lives> hggdh - it was - I've gotten rid of the coredump now
[15:37] <hggdh> tbsdy_lives: if you really want to remove it... (1) it will take out any chance of apport backtracing it (2) your backtrace is incomplete
[15:37] <tbsdy_lives> I installed a whole raft of symbols and got a new backtrace
[15:38] <tbsdy_lives> hggdh - apart from the uno stuff...
[15:38] <ashams> nigelb: if you found a bug that was claimed against a certain release which is no longer active, in which status may I put it into?
[15:38] <hggdh> tbsdy_lives: it seems SIGSEGV was at frame 22 -- an unresolved frame...
[15:38] <ashams> nigelb: just like this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/481287
[15:38] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 481287 in xserver-xorg-input-synaptics (Ubuntu) "after some usage the touchpad is not moving mouse pointer. the buttons also don't work (affects: 1) (heat: 11)" [Undecided,New]
[15:39]  * nigelb looks
[15:39] <tbsdy_lives> ya... how do you get around that though?
[15:41] <nigelb> ashams: jaunty is supported till October 2010, so you can't just randomly close it
[15:42] <nigelb> ashams: what you can do is this => https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses#Old%20untouched%20bugs
[15:42] <tbsdy_lives> hggdh, I dunno how you deal with frameless functions in gdb
[15:42] <hggdh> tbsdy_lives: if you still have your /var/crash/<openoffice crash>, then you can 'sudo apport-retrace -o /tmp/trash /var/crash/<openoffice crash>'
[15:42] <tbsdy_lives> really... nice!
[15:42] <tbsdy_lives> yeah, still got it
[15:43] <hggdh> tbsdy_lives: this will install *all* debug symbols available for *all* packages that OO depends on
[15:43] <tbsdy_lives> really? that rocks!
[15:43] <tbsdy_lives> nice!!!
[15:43] <hggdh> tbsdy_lives: and it iwll take a while, and will eat up some nice chunks of disk space
[15:44] <hggdh> tbsdy_lives: after that, you can 'apport-retrace -g /var/crash/<openoffice crash', and you will be put into a gdb session on your crash
[15:44] <tbsdy_lives> er.... apport-retrace doesn't seem to exist...
[15:44] <tbsdy_lives> any ideas?
[15:44] <ashams> nigelb:well, thank you very much, this rally helps :)
[15:44] <tbsdy_lives> oh...
[15:44] <tbsdy_lives> it's a package
[15:44] <tbsdy_lives> installing now
[15:45] <nigelb> ashams: np :) Feel free to ask in here anything you face :)
[15:45] <hggdh> tbsdy_lives: sudo apt-get install apport-retrace
[15:45] <tbsdy_lives> already done :-)
[15:45] <hggdh> heh
[15:45] <tbsdy_lives> sorry, still a newbie...
[15:46] <tbsdy_lives> but I got bitten by the bug when I helped the sqlite3 guys troubleshoot an index segfault that happened in firefox
[15:47] <tbsdy_lives> wow... that's finding a hell of a lot of dbgsyms aren't available!
[15:48] <tbsdy_lives> hey hggdh do you know who maintains cpio?
[15:48] <nigelb> tbsdy_lives: apt-cache show cpio :)
[15:49] <tbsdy_lives> nigelb, nice!
[15:49] <tbsdy_lives> you fellas are awesomely helpful, I must say :-)
[15:49] <nigelb> :)
[15:50] <hggdh> we do try, we do try...
[15:51] <hggdh> tbsdy_lives: hopefully the missing dbgsyms will not be critical
[15:52] <tbsdy_lives> hggdh, well, you are doing a great job :)
[15:52]  * hggdh blushes
[16:06] <hggdh> pedro_: there?
[16:06] <pedro_> hggdh, yes,
[16:07] <hggdh> pedro_: don't we have a meeting now with jibel?
[16:07] <pedro_> hggdh, that's correct
[16:07] <hggdh> heh
[16:08]  * nigelb notes that a nice way to say "oh shucks! I forgot"
[16:14]  * devildante lol'd
[16:14] <devildante> hi pedro_ :)
[16:51] <sbeattie> hggdh: FYI, I should have looked at apache2's changelog: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apache2/2.2.16-1ubuntu2 :-/
[17:01] <hggdh> sbeattie: ah! I was looking for the apache entry, but I guess I was searching for apache, not apache2!
[17:02] <hggdh> sbeattie: now... why does it start on boot-up?
[17:03] <sbeattie> hggdh: answer unclear. Also unclear to me, when stdin is set to /dev/null or a file, stty sane exits whinging about an invalid iotctl for the device.
[17:03] <sbeattie> at least when run manually.
[17:09] <ali1234> hi. i am trying to file a kernel bug report with apport but every time i try it says "this bug is already reported" and forwards me to a completely unrelated bug. what now?
[17:09] <ali1234> it sends me to bug 452814
[17:09] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 452814 in linux (Ubuntu) "WARNING: at /build/buildd/linux-2.6.31/net/ipv4/tcp.c:1408 tcp_recvmsg+0xa49/0xb20() (affects: 96) (dups: 27) (heat: 166)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/452814
[17:10] <ali1234> the bug i am trying to report is related to HDA sound hanging
[17:22] <dyfet> bug #622654 could be marked triaged.  Might end up being marked invalid.
[17:22] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 622654 in usb-creator (Ubuntu) "usb-creator wipe the whole disk, not only the selected partition (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/622654
[17:23] <rahul27> Hi Guys
[17:23] <rahul27> I am new to bug triaging. I have a few questions could somebody help me?
[17:25] <vish> rahul27: just ask and someone who knows will answer :)
[17:27] <rahul27> Ok .. what if during triaging I set something wrong like for example set the wrong version ?
[17:34] <rahul27> No worries ... I've got my answer.
[18:00] <dyfet> bug #619913 could be marked triaged
[18:00] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 619913 in xdg-utils (Ubuntu) "open should be an alias to xdg-open (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/619913
[18:05] <charlie-tca> umm, if "open" is already used, what is going to happen if this is allowed to be replaced by xdg-open ? Isn't that going to cause something else to fail?
[18:07] <charlie-tca> Perhaps it would be better to allow the Mac users to change the symlink themselves, if they want to, rather than changing it distro wide?
[18:08] <dyfet> That was my point, it is already used.  It perhaps should be marked as invalid.
[18:08] <charlie-tca> Okay. There is big difference between triaged and invalid.
[18:08] <dyfet> But I just wanted to make sure the package maintainer had enough info to know what to choose
[18:09] <dyfet> And thats the only reason I suggested triaged rather than invalid.
[18:10] <charlie-tca> invalid marked
[18:11] <dyfet> fair enough :)
[18:11] <charlie-tca> Triaged is used when the bug is being given to the developers to work to resolve it. In this case, they can not resolve it.
[18:14] <dyfet> charlie-tca: You might want to look at 620128 then.  I am not sure if I want to "claim" it yet, but there is something that does need specific work that has now been clearly identified.
[18:14] <charlie-tca> bug 620128
[18:14] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 620128 in gnome-dvb-daemon (Ubuntu) "ftbfs - incompatible with current vala in maverick (affects: 1) (heat: 543)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/620128
[18:15] <dyfet> If I decide to do it, I will just assign it to myself.
[18:15] <charlie-tca> so, the fix would be to sync the new package into maverick after the beta release?
[18:16] <dyfet> Cant be a sync, not updated in debian yet
[18:16] <dyfet> Oh I see what you mean
[18:16] <charlie-tca> Workaround might be using a PPA until it can be?
[18:17] <dyfet> Well, a package with the upstream update has to be created, it could be submitted for sponsorship with a ffe...
[18:17] <charlie-tca> do you want it marked triaged?
[18:17] <charlie-tca> I am not very good with this type of bug.
[18:18] <dyfet> I wanted it marked as triaged for now.  If I want to do this package, and I may, and have a chance to, I will just go back and claim it then
[18:18] <charlie-tca> good enough. Importance on it?
[18:19] <dyfet> Hmm...maybe medium?  otherwise low.  Its not part of main...I do not know anything depending on it specifically, do not know if it is something widely used by people though
[18:20] <charlie-tca> But without it being fixed, ftbfs is broken for everyone?
[18:20] <dyfet> Technically it is part of gnome
[18:20] <dyfet> and yes, it is broken for everyone in maverick currently
[18:20] <dyfet> (all architectures)
[18:20] <charlie-tca> That is a pretty big impact. Medium works, done
[18:20] <dyfet> Then I am also more likely to revisit it later today or tomorrow :)
[18:23] <charlie-tca> Keep up the good work
[18:23] <dyfet> unless someone else decides to work on it first
[18:23] <dyfet> thanks!
[19:28] <njin> hello everybody
[19:28] <njin> pedro_: hello
[19:29] <pedro_> hello njin
[19:32] <njin> pedro_: can we talk with someone about ubiquity ?
[19:40] <hggdh> sbeattie: would you mind running my version(s) of test-apache2-*.py under checkbox?
[19:41] <sbeattie> hggdh: sheesh, you're so needy! (of course I wouldn't mind)
[19:45] <sbeattie> hggdh: where should I be looking for them?
[19:47] <hggdh> sbeattie: I will send you a tar file for it
[19:47] <sbeattie> hggdh: okay, cool.
[19:51] <hggdh> sbeattie: after that, if you confirm them to be working, I will propose a merge to both checkbox and QRT
[20:44] <sbeattie> hggdh: okay, trying to run all three tests at the same time (without I think any of the necessary apache packages installed a priori) results in none of the tests running due to job requirements not being met.
[20:44] <sbeattie> hggdh: which is exactly the situation I was afraid of and warned cr3 about.
[20:45] <sbeattie> The reason for this is that filter_packages (which does the installation to satisfy package/job requirements) acts essentially as a pre-processing phase before any of the tests are run.
[20:46] <hggdh> sbeattie: yes...
[20:46] <hggdh> sbeattie: I also just found out that first run of just one qrt-apache* selected will fail without any indication, but the required packages will be installed
[20:47] <hggdh> second run in a row succeeds
[20:47] <hggdh> sbeattie: and -- you cannot run all three, they have conflicting requirements... I must be one at a time
[20:47] <sbeattie> right
[20:47] <sbeattie> you want me to run them one at a time?
[20:48] <hggdh> yes, please
[20:48] <hggdh> keep in mind the above: if the packages are not yet installed, first run will install them, and do nothing
[20:48] <sbeattie> in order for checkbox to properly support them, it needs to support installing packages on a per-test basis.
[20:48] <hggdh> yes
[20:49] <hggdh> I am trying to figure out what the hell filter-packages is doing, but not much success as of now
[20:49] <hggdh> it *was* working... this is why I sent it to you :-(
[20:51] <sbeattie> hggdh: hrm, trying the mpm-worker test, after the first run, apache2-mpm-worker still hasn't been installed.
[20:52] <sbeattie> (and so, of course, it failed to run due to the job requirements not being met)
[20:52] <hggdh> hell. This is hell.
[20:52] <hggdh> oh
[20:53] <sbeattie> hrm, same thing second time, though I cleared out ~/.cache/checkbox first.
[20:53] <hggdh> I *think* I know why, and will test -- the package requirements may not be correct
[20:54] <sbeattie> oh! weird, *not* clearing .cache/checkbox caused it to run the second time. *whimper*
[20:55] <hggdh> sbeattie: mysterious are the ways of checkbox ;-)
[20:57] <hggdh> _sbeattie: BTW I am getting two failures: CVE 2009 1890, and ftp proxy
[20:57] <ubot2> hggdh: The stream_reqbody_cl function in mod_proxy_http.c in the mod_proxy module in the Apache HTTP Server before 2.3.3, when a reverse proxy is configured, does not properly handle an amount of streamed data that exceeds the Content-Length value, which allows remote attackers to cause a denial of service (CPU consumption) via crafted requests. (http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2009-1890)
[20:57] <hggdh> sbeattie: BTW I am getting two failures: CVE 2009 1890, and ftp proxy
[20:57] <ubot2> hggdh: The stream_reqbody_cl function in mod_proxy_http.c in the mod_proxy module in the Apache HTTP Server before 2.3.3, when a reverse proxy is configured, does not properly handle an amount of streamed data that exceeds the Content-Length value, which allows remote attackers to cause a denial of service (CPU consumption) via crafted requests. (http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2009-1890)
[20:58] <hggdh> blast!
[20:58] <sbeattie> hunh
[20:59] <sbeattie> worker test /me has hit the stty sane issue
[20:59] <sbeattie> errrrrrr, let me write that in english
[20:59]  * sbeattie has hit the stty sane issue in the worker test.
[21:03] <bcurtiswx> anyone here know a good php viewer (im not gonna install a webserver to view php output)
[21:12] <hggdh> sbeattie: I thought I had the bypass there, let me check
[21:14] <hggdh> sbeattie: you should have a subprocess.call(sed ...) in the script
[21:14] <hggdh> bcurtiswx: less? ;-)
[21:14] <hggdh> bcurtiswx: if it is a well-formed web page, ffox should deal with if (file://...)
[21:16] <bcurtiswx> its got a .php extension
[21:18] <bcurtiswx> im using SVN, but maybe there's a way I can link it all together with the working version on another computer
[21:18] <bcurtiswx> i guess I can't really test it what way
[21:18] <bcurtiswx> eh, nvm.  I was trying to go about it without an internet connection, but otherwise i can just tunnel over and edit the files over there and it'll show right up on the website
[21:33] <devildante> does gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-multiverse and gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg exist in debian?
[21:33] <sbeattie> hggdh: sorry, had a phone call.
[21:33] <devildante> nvm, found them
[21:34] <sbeattie> bcurtiswx: also, you can use the php-cli tool to interpret locally.
[21:35] <sbeattie> hggdh: weird, I see the sed call, but the stty sane bit is still in the initscript
[21:40] <kamusin> nvo save my day (policykit-1 has fixed yay!) .. thank you
[21:41] <devildante> kamusin, you meant mvo :p
[21:42] <kamusin> devildante, hehe right, I mean mvo
[21:42] <mvo> you are welcome kamusin
[21:43] <devildante> thank you mvo, this was annoying ;)
[21:44]  * devildante wonders why bugs.debian.org doesn't have a web interface after all these years
[21:46] <mvo> devildante: yeah, I found it anoying as well :)
[21:46] <micahg> devildante: there was a thread on one of the MLs about that recently
[21:47] <devildante> looks like I'm not the only one :p
[21:47] <devildante> I heard about a gsoc project about this, but seems to have been abandoned :(
[21:48] <micahg> bts cli is nice
[21:49] <devildante> micahg: only for reporting bugs, not for modifying them (?)
[21:49] <micahg> devildante: no, that's reportbug, bts cli is for modifying
[21:49] <micahg> and reporting I guess...
[21:49] <devildante> Oh great!
[21:52]  * devildante got his bug acknowledged in Debian
[21:55]  * devildante has triaged bug ; it's so freaking cool!
[22:04]  * pedro_ hugs devildante
[22:04]  * devildante hugs back pedro_
[22:04] <devildante> darn, too much hugs :p
[22:04] <micahg> pedro_: sorry for not getting to mozilla hugdays this cycle
[22:04] <micahg> pedro_: we can have some this winter :)
[22:05] <pedro_> micahg, no worries, you're doing an extraordinary work there :-)
[22:05] <pedro_> micahg, sure! whenever you want to ;-)
[22:05] <micahg> pedro_: thanks
[22:05] <pedro_> devildante, indeed!
[22:05] <micahg> pedro_: we're going to need a major cleanup after natty is released since 2 of the sources will be EOL :)
[22:05] <devildante> pedro_: perhaps it would be better if you explained why you hug me :p
[22:06] <pedro_> devildante, because you rock!
[22:06] <devildante> pedro_: and why, sir, do I rock? :p
[22:06] <pedro_> btw folks if you have a digg account help us : http://blog.qa.ubuntu.com/node/103
[22:07] <pedro_> hola yofel
[22:07] <micahg> pedro_: a better title might have been "Have some empathy for empathy" :)
[22:07] <yofel> hey pedro_
[22:08] <pedro_> micahg, !! indeed  i'm editing it right now to include that
[22:08] <pedro_> micahg, thanks!
[22:09] <micahg> pedro_: :) cool
[22:09] <pedro_> done :-)
[22:10]  * devildante still wonders why he rocks...
[22:10] <devildante> pedro_ ^
[22:10] <seb128> bug #278525
[22:10] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 278525 in rhythmbox (Ubuntu) "some error (heat: 7)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/278525
[22:10] <devildante> cool bug title :p
[22:10] <seb128> is somebody else spammed by this bug?
[22:10] <pedro_> devildante, we announced the bug day like 10 minutes ago and you're triaging bugs there already :-P
[22:11] <seb128> I get an email every 5 or 6 days
[22:11] <devildante> pedro_: I have too much free time :p
[22:11] <seb128> " I've never seen anything like this before" titles
[22:11] <seb128> or "Can you imagine?"
[22:11] <seb128> sent by kheewabrar <kheewabrar@gmail.com>
[22:12] <seb128> I've 18 in my bugbox
[22:12] <devildante> seb128, I feel empathy for you :(
[22:12] <seb128> devildante, don't worry about me or my bugbox
[22:12] <seb128> I got hundred of emails a day there
[22:12] <pedro_> seb128, i don't have anything from him here
[22:13] <seb128> I'm just wondering if somebody knows why I get emails but there is no comment added on the bug
[22:13] <charlie-tca> I was gettigns those, but they stopped now
[22:13] <seb128> "You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to
[22:13] <seb128> rhythmbox in ubuntu."
[22:13] <seb128> I got one today again, weird
[22:14] <pedro_> odd
[22:14] <devildante> pedro_, seconded
[22:14] <pedro_> we should be getting ~ the same emails from ubuntu-desktop and i'm not seeing anything coming from that address
[22:15] <seb128> is the list spam filtered in some way?
[22:18] <hggdh> seb128: which list?
[22:19] <seb128> desktop-bugs
[22:19] <pedro_> seb128, better to file an answer for the lp folks to track down that issue, sounds really odd that so far you're the only person receiving those :-/
[22:20] <pedro_> we're subscribed to the same list so i'd expect to get those messages as well
[22:20] <seb128> pedro_, I'm subscribed to rb directly
[22:20] <seb128> those are not on the desktop-bugs list
[22:20] <seb128> I'm subscribed to the things I'm specially working on
[22:21] <seb128> that's to split noise and things I watch
[22:21] <pedro_> kamusin, you're subscribed there as well
[22:21] <pedro_> kamusin, are you getting emails from that address kheewabrar <kheewabrar@gmail.com> ?
[22:29] <sbeattie> hggdh: sigh, I'm so confused. the sed script for some reason does not work within checkbox, but does when running the script manually.
[22:30] <charlie-tca> hggdh: are the server images working in hardware?
[22:34] <hggdh> charlie-tca: I have not tested this week (yet), so I do not know. But I can start a test now, if you wish
[22:34] <charlie-tca> no
[22:34] <hggdh> sbeattie: er, what?? WFM :-(
[22:35] <charlie-tca> just got a report about it from a test
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[22:35] <hggdh> hum
[22:35] <seb128> is that an usb-creator image?
[22:35] <KE1HA> Yes
[22:35] <seb128> is that an usb-creator image?
[22:35] <seb128> ups
[22:36] <seb128> on what ubuntu version did you write it?
[22:36] <seb128> what ubuntu version is the iso?
[22:36] <seb128> the syslinux versions need to be the same
[22:36] <KE1HA> current 20100831
[22:36] <seb128> both?
[22:36] <seb128> ie the iso and the install who ran usb-creator?
[22:36] <hggdh> sbeattie: the sed script is pretty much simple, there are not many ways to flunk. *Very* weird.
[22:37] <sbeattie> hggdh: I'm just wondering if, since it doesn't undo itself, if a manual run disabled it and then ran it within checkbox.
[22:37] <KE1HA> I zsynced to current this morning, then created the USB Key a few moments ago.
[22:37] <seb128> you are on maverick?
[22:37] <charlie-tca> Just thought I would bring it up, since you all seem to having so much fun :-)
[22:37] <KE1HA> No, the desktop I used to create was 10.04.1
[22:37] <seb128> ok, that's the issue then
[22:37] <sbeattie> hggdh: yeah, it makes no sense at all to me why it wouldn't work.
[22:38] <seb128> that's a known usb-creator issue
[22:38] <hggdh> sbeattie: subprocess.call() should not fail because of this (subprocess.returncode would be set, but this is all, I think)
[22:38] <KE1HA> Hmmm. ok. will get a VM installed and create from there.
[22:38] <seb128> you need to have the same syslinux version that the one of the iso
[22:38] <seb128> you can try to install the maverick syslinux
[22:38] <KE1HA> got it. tnx
[22:38] <seb128> you're welcome
[22:54] <hggdh> sbeattie: I submitted a merge for QRT on these scripts
[22:54] <hggdh> er. merge request, I mean
[22:59] <KE1HA> Hi guys, ran into another issue, Vbox testing ISO's: "VirtualBox can't open in VMX root mode. Please disable KVM kernel extension, recompile your kernel and reboot". Tried: sudo modprobe -r kvm-intel and kvm-amd, rebooted the box, same error. Kernel 2.6.32-24 kernel. Any ideas ?
[23:03] <sbeattie> hggdh: did you try uncommenting the stty sane bit back in and then re-running from checkbox? it just doesn't touch it here for some reason.
[23:04] <yofel> KE1HA: rebooting will reset all changes done my modprobe, you need to blacklist the modules if you don't want them to be loaded on boot
[23:05] <KE1HA> Ahh, ok, will give that a shot. TNX
[23:05] <yofel> but...
[23:05] <hggdh> sbeattie: no, I did not try, will do
[23:05] <hggdh> sbeattie: what Ubuntu version are you running? I am running Maverick
[23:05] <sbeattie> this is maverick also (or stty sane wouldn't be an issue)
[23:06] <yofel> KE1HA: I did have vbox working on lucid last time I tried it and I didn't get any kvm errors, are the vbox modules loaded?
[23:07] <KE1HA> yofel:  same here, been testing loads of ISO's first time I've hit his one.
[23:07] <yofel> odd
[23:09] <KE1HA> yofel:  I can try to rebuild the Vbox modules, but when I installed it, it didn't' report any errors, however, there was Kernel update, may of had something to do with it. Will rebuild the Vbox Modules, test, then blacklist the modules and see what transpires.
[23:13] <sbeattie> hggdh: weeeeird: sed: couldn't open temporary file /etc/init.d/sedJlj6KY: Permission denied
[23:14] <sbeattie> hggdh: *sigh* QRT-privilege vs. QRT-_P_rivilege
[23:15] <hggdh> argh!!
[23:16] <hggdh> why did it run here?
[23:16] <hggdh> oh, perhaps because I am running checkbox as root?
[23:17] <sbeattie> hggdh: yeah, that'll probably do it.
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[23:25] <ke1ha_> yofel:  Problem solved, blacklisted the modules, rebuilt Vbox modules, then reboot solved it.
[23:26] <yofel> :)
[23:27] <ke1ha_> yofel:  Been a rough day of teting thus far, here's to hoping thigns go smoother :-)
[23:27] <hggdh> sbeattie: still. When I ran it, the first time it just installed the packages
[23:30] <sbeattie> hggdh: I've been solely trying to run the mpm-worker tests, I'll give the mpm-prefork test a try to see what happens (and won't get spurious failures due to php5 being enabled but not installed)
[23:31] <sbeattie> hggdh: CVE 2009 1890 failure is a goofy false-positive, it's like the proxy is not working for some reason (404 instead of 200)
[23:31] <ubot2> sbeattie: The stream_reqbody_cl function in mod_proxy_http.c in the mod_proxy module in the Apache HTTP Server before 2.3.3, when a reverse proxy is configured, does not properly handle an amount of streamed data that exceeds the Content-Length value, which allows remote attackers to cause a denial of service (CPU consumption) via crafted requests. (http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2009-1890)
[23:31] <sbeattie> why, thanks, ubot2, I was trying to avoid you quoting that CVE.
[23:34] <sbeattie> hrm, I still reproduce the main package (apache2-mpm-prefork) not getting installed the first time checkbox runs.
[23:39] <sbeattie> hggdh: here's the paste of the apache2 packages in submission.xml from attempting to run the mpm-*prefork* test
[23:39] <sbeattie> hggdh: http://paste.ubuntu.com/486513/
[23:40] <sbeattie> hggdh: the 'package id="14" name="apache2-mpm-worker"' shows the mpm-worker package is still installed.
[23:42] <sbeattie> hggdh: oh duh; querying apt *correctly* shows it did get installed, just the checkbox didn't realize it.
[23:44] <hggdh> sbeattie: ufff. At least *this* one was not my fault ;-)
[23:45] <sbeattie> hggdh: given that I'm the one that added QRT-Privilege support to checkbox (brittlely), I think I'm 0 for 2.
[23:46] <hggdh> heh
[23:47] <hggdh> sbeattie: I will run prefork also now
[23:49] <sbeattie> hggdh: FYI, there's no QRT-Privilege: line at all in the mpm-prefork file you gave me.
[23:50] <sbeattie> (I fixed locally but don't want you tripped up by it)
[23:51] <hggdh> sbeattie: already corrected all (plus -itk and -perchild)
[23:56] <devildante> argh, lp:ubuntu/empathy doesn't want to compile
[23:57] <devildante> it spits out this:
[23:57] <devildante> empathy-chat-window.o: In function `empathy_chat_window_init':
[23:57] <devildante> /home/devildante/Coding/ubuntu/empathy/empathy.bug-624194/src/empathy-chat-window.c:2159: undefined reference to `launchpad_integration_add_ui'
[23:57] <devildante> empathy-main-window.o: In function `empathy_main_window_init':
[23:57] <devildante> /home/devildante/Coding/ubuntu/empathy/empathy.bug-624194/src/empathy-main-window.c:1809: undefined reference to `launchpad_integration_add_ui'
[23:57] <devildante> even though I have liblaunchpad-integration-dev installed
[23:57] <devildante> any ideas?