| bcurtiswx | didrocks, you were the last to upload to empathy lucid, would you be willing to review a merge request when you get the time? | 01:11 |
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| didrocks | good morning | 07:21 |
| RAOF | Howdie didrocks! | 07:23 |
| didrocks | hey RAOF | 07:24 |
| RAOF | Sweet. One working unity on -radeon, with only minor glitches. | 07:35 |
| didrocks | awesome! ;) | 07:36 |
| RAOF | It's always fun when applications only work because of mesa bugs! | 07:38 |
| RAOF | Then when they get fixed you can peer at the code and go “how did this ever work” :) | 07:39 |
| vish | didrocks: hey, wb :) | 07:39 |
| * vish might be late in welcoming .. ;) | 07:40 | |
| didrocks | hey vish! nice to see you :-) | 07:40 |
| vish | :) | 07:40 |
| didrocks | RAOF: heh, I hear the dx team constantly telling that ;) | 07:40 |
| RAOF | Time to head off to exercise! I'll be back on later. | 07:43 |
| vish | didrocks: dont read last desktop meeting logs! there were people calling/praying for you to come back! :D | 07:44 |
| didrocks | vish: heh, too late, I read it :-) at least, it shows that I'm not a slacker ;) | 07:44 |
| didrocks | RAOF: see you! | 07:45 |
| vish | hehe! | 07:45 |
| kenvandine | good morning didrocks | 07:50 |
| didrocks | hey kenvandine, still awake? | 07:50 |
| kenvandine | yup | 07:50 |
| kenvandine | backporting twitter oauth to lucid | 07:51 |
| kenvandine | almost done :) | 07:51 |
| didrocks | great :) | 07:52 |
| and471 | morning | 07:55 |
| TheMuso | 8/c | 07:56 |
| didrocks | hey and471, TheMuso | 08:01 |
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| TheMuso | Hey didrocks. | 08:04 |
| didrocks | robert_ancell: clicking on preferences on gnome-calctool make it segfault, known bug? | 08:05 |
| and471 | hi didrocks | 08:07 |
| robert_ancell | didrocks, no, thanks | 08:08 |
| didrocks | robert_ancell: do you want a bug for it? | 08:08 |
| robert_ancell | didrocks, no need, I'll fix it quickly before anyone else notices :) | 08:09 |
| didrocks | robert_ancell: heh, right, I guess only crazy people click on that button ;) | 08:10 |
| didrocks | (I just needed a preference dialog example!) ;) | 08:10 |
| robert_ancell | didrocks, oh, I have heard of this one - it's crashing in the appmenu code. I don't think it's gcalctools fault. I thought it had been fixed? | 08:11 |
| didrocks | robert_ancell: hum, let me check, I don't have the applet, only the service running | 08:11 |
| robert_ancell | didrocks, I don't have the applet either, trace is here http://paste.ubuntu.com/486192/ | 08:12 |
| robert_ancell | ooh, even paste.ubuntu.com has a new look :) | 08:12 |
| didrocks | robert_ancell: yeah, that looks suspicious, indeed ;) | 08:13 |
| robert_ancell | didrocks, hey, I've been meaning to ask - do you want to do the evo update? I didn't want to break any of your UNE stuff | 08:13 |
| didrocks | robert_ancell: yeah, I'll handle it today to 2.30.3 and push the queue for post beta freeze | 08:14 |
| didrocks | I have some free time for that and go again the express merge nightmare :) | 08:15 |
| didrocks | have to go to the doctor, bbiab | 08:15 |
| chrisccoulson | good morning everyone | 08:17 |
| and471 | morning chrisccoulson | 08:20 |
| chrisccoulson | hi and471 | 08:20 |
| chrisccoulson | it's quiet in here at this time of the morning | 08:20 |
| ara | morning chrisccoulson | 08:21 |
| chrisccoulson | good morning ara | 08:21 |
| and471 | chrisccoulson, did you have a nice bank holiday? :) | 08:27 |
| chrisccoulson | and471, yes thanks, it was ok. it was quite a long day on sunday though | 08:28 |
| and471 | is anyone else getting "The Google Maps API server rejected your request. The "client" parameter specified in the request is invalid." when going on user pages on launchpad? | 08:28 |
| chrisccoulson | and471, yeah, there's a launchpad bug for that somewhere | 08:29 |
| and471 | chrisccoulson, ah good, as long as it is not just me :) | 08:29 |
| chrisccoulson | and471, bug 624981 | 08:29 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 624981 in launchpad-registry "The Google Maps API server rejected your request (affects: 36) (dups: 6) (heat: 185)" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/624981 | 08:29 |
| chrisccoulson | we had some people report it against firefox ;) | 08:30 |
| vish | and471: hey, that description bug you got it fixed debian? [/me confused] | 08:35 |
| vish | the one you pinged yday.. | 08:35 |
| and471 | vish, which one? | 08:35 |
| vish | and471: oh the one you had filed | 08:36 |
| and471 | vish, could you give me a bug number? | 08:36 |
| vish | and471: not sure what the ping was about.. | 08:36 |
| and471 | pretty please :) | 08:36 |
| vish | and471: gah! you pinged me ;p let me check my mail ;) | 08:37 |
| and471 | thankyou :) | 08:37 |
| vish | and471: Bug 626699 | 08:37 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 626699 in gnumeric (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "gnumeric description needs improving (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/626699 | 08:37 |
| vish | didrocks: can we open a lucid task for Bug 587853 , seems a good bug to fix for LTS | 08:38 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 587853 in cheese (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "After video recording, record/take photo button becomes disabled (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 24)" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/587853 | 08:38 |
| and471 | vish, oh no, I was pinging you if you wanted to triage it in 100 papercuts and put it in the SC-metadata round | 08:41 |
| vish | : ah! | 08:41 |
| vish | and471: i'm actually thinking about how best we can address some of those descriptions... there are a few concerns that changing it in Ubuntu increases workload.. so i'm trying to get some process in place before actually closing a few bugs.. | 08:46 |
| and471 | vish, yeah we want to change it in debian and ubuntu | 08:46 |
| and471 | vish, that is what I have tried to do (where possible) | 08:46 |
| and471 | vish, maybe you could create a small app for the SC papercutters that files in the right places, downloads a debian copy to make a patch on.. etc. | 08:55 |
| vish | and471: https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/rosetta/+question/120619 is an idea mvo had as a workaround for a while | 08:56 |
| vish | and471: the descriptions is also on LP roadmap , not sure when though ;) | 08:57 |
| didrocks | vish: let's see that after beta if you don't mind. Quite busy this week :) | 09:02 |
| vish | sure.. np.. :) | 09:03 |
| didrocks | thanks ;) | 09:03 |
| vish | didrocks: np.. actually i was mentioning to open the task for later, else we might miss it .. i'll poke after beta :) | 09:04 |
| seb128 | TheMuso, hi | 09:59 |
| seb128 | TheMuso, you still have a workitem on the wallpaper competition spec | 09:59 |
| seb128 | TheMuso, do you still plan to work on it? | 09:59 |
| chrisccoulson | hi pitti. is there anything else i need to do regarding my e-mail to the technical-board about chromium security updates? | 10:08 |
| chrisccoulson | i've got a work-item to get a process in place by beta ;) | 10:08 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: it seems to me that as of today we don't have a viable solution for this? I didn't see an agreement there | 10:14 |
| seb128 | re | 10:18 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, pitti: hey | 10:18 |
| pitti | hey seb128 | 10:18 |
| seb128 | the work item is not for beta but still nice to get that sorted | 10:18 |
| seb128 | the goal is to know what it would take to support it correctly by UDS | 10:19 |
| seb128 | which means having the security update and the translation processes sorted | 10:20 |
| chrisccoulson | hi seb128 | 10:21 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - yeah, i was wondering what i can do to try and reach an agreement (so we can just upload new versions to -security like we do with firefox) | 10:22 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: do you know if there's some effort to get access to new releases a week in advance, so that we have a chance to do some QA? | 10:24 |
| seb128 | they don't want to do that it seems | 10:24 |
| seb128 | they don't want to wait a week to get updates rolling | 10:24 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - our security team will get notifications for security issues, which will give us some time to prepare and test a release | 10:25 |
| chrisccoulson | but it won't be as long as we get with mozilla | 10:25 |
| seb128 | trying to do qa on our side will not work | 10:25 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: oh, that's news; could you send that to the thread? so far I was under the impression that these are 0-day releases | 10:26 |
| seb128 | let's be realistic we can't correctly test updates in the timeframe they have | 10:27 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - yeah, sure. i can send that | 10:27 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, do you think we can do correct testing? | 10:28 |
| seb128 | do they have an upstream official ppa or something? | 10:28 |
| seb128 | shouldn't we just give that to user in s-c and stop trying to package it | 10:28 |
| seb128 | ie just connect directly upstream to users and let users complain to upstream if they have issues | 10:28 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - it will be difficult for us to do proper testing, but even the testing we do with firefox is fairly limited | 10:28 |
| seb128 | that's what the chromium guys want anyway it seems | 10:29 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - the issue with that is upstream don't provide official builds of chromium | 10:29 |
| chrisccoulson | (they only provide chrome) | 10:29 |
| seb128 | would they be wanting to? | 10:29 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm not sure about that | 10:29 |
| seb128 | can we talk to them about it? | 10:29 |
| seb128 | did somebody try to talk to them about it? | 10:29 |
| chrisccoulson | also, kees is not keen on us shipping upstream builds, as they don't benefit from any of the platform hardening that the security team work on | 10:29 |
| chrisccoulson | s/any/some/ | 10:30 |
| seb128 | who is going to do the security updates? kees' team? | 10:31 |
| seb128 | it just seems to me that realistically we can't do a great job of it | 10:31 |
| chrisccoulson | it will probably be me who does the security updates ;) | 10:32 |
| seb128 | there is no way that will work imho | 10:32 |
| seb128 | you are already overworked without those | 10:32 |
| seb128 | but ressources are a different topic | 10:34 |
| seb128 | let's sort how we can deal with it and then figure who has time to do it | 10:34 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, how long would they let us access before rolling out the updates publically? | 10:35 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm not sure. they seem to prefer doing a release as soon as they fix a problem, which means that the window in which we can prepare our update and do some testing will always be quite small | 10:36 |
| seb128 | right, that was the impression I got | 10:36 |
| seb128 | we should talk to them about having a chromium ppa where they push their updates | 10:37 |
| seb128 | ie sort of an official upstream ppa for it | 10:37 |
| seb128 | so we would build it with our build option and security set | 10:37 |
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| seb128 | pedro_, ola! | 13:05 |
| pedro_ | salut seb128 ;-) | 13:07 |
| devildante | mpt: around? | 14:35 |
| mpt | devildante, yep | 14:37 |
| mpt | devildante, and I haven't forgotten about updating the spec | 14:38 |
| devildante | :p | 14:38 |
| devildante | mpt, how do you think we can fix bug 599667? I already have a working implementation, but I would like a designer's opinion :) | 14:39 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 599667 in gnome-utils (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "GNOME Screenshot is not user-friendly during delay (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/599667 | 14:39 |
| mpt | devildante, http://www.google.com/images?q=film+countdown&biw=1066&bih=549 | 14:40 |
| devildante | ah, great! | 14:41 |
| devildante | mpt, I was using a countdown, but it's nowhere cool as this :p | 14:41 |
| devildante | mpt, basically, I was using a label that when taking screenshot says: "The screenshot will be taken in n seconds..." | 14:43 |
| nigelb | mpt: wow, that is something I wished would be there :D | 14:43 |
| seb128 | grrrr maverick crashing on user switching | 14:47 |
| devildante | anyone who has crashes when typing in the login keyring (on auto-login)? | 14:51 |
| ara | seb128, I can confirm this bug: bug 615508 | 14:53 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 615508 in gnome-codec-install (Ubuntu) "Unable to install codecs with gstreamer-codec-install (affects: 5) (dups: 1) (heat: 187)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/615508 | 14:53 |
| ara | seb128, I think it is quite important, are you guys going to have a look to it? | 14:53 |
| seb128 | mvo, ^ | 14:54 |
| seb128 | ara, hey | 14:54 |
| mvo | ara: hm, let me check | 14:54 |
| seb128 | ara, I didn't know about it before now, mvo is the one working on that | 14:54 |
| ara | seb128, mvo: I just reproduced it | 14:55 |
| ara | mvo, it seems like the application tries to install the plugin before it elevates privileges | 14:55 |
| devildante | seb128, mvo, ara: I can try looking at the code and fixing it, but I don't promise you anything ;) | 14:55 |
| ara | mvo, and therefore, it fails | 14:56 |
| mvo | devildante: that would be great, please do :) | 14:56 |
| devildante | :) | 14:57 |
| mvo | thanks ara for raising this, I target | 14:57 |
| seb128 | devildante, thanks | 14:57 |
| devildante | seb128, np | 14:57 |
| mvo | devildante: iirc it just uses a similar/the same install backend code as update-manager, probably enough to just update it | 14:57 |
| mvo | devildante: for next cycle we need a better api for this :) | 14:58 |
| devildante | mvo: ah, great | 14:58 |
| kiwinote | hehe, next cycle it may just appear in software-center | 14:58 |
| devildante | mvo: should I try to fix it against upstream or the ubuntu branch? | 14:59 |
| mvo | devildante: either way is fine | 15:00 |
| devildante | mvo: okay :) | 15:01 |
| * devildante finds bzr is 1000 times better than svn | 15:01 | |
| htorque_ | didrocks, can you check if you're still getting bug 617337 ? | 15:13 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 617337 in unity (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "places hide half of the top panel (affects: 1) (heat: 230)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/617337 | 15:13 |
| didrocks | htorque_: I didn't get it recently, think it's closed. Do you still have it? | 15:14 |
| nessita | seb128: ping | 15:14 |
| seb128 | nessita, hey | 15:15 |
| nessita | seb128: we're getting reports that the GUI for ussoc can't be fully seen on netbooks. We have a couple of unused fields that we'd like to remove. Does that requiere a UI freeze exception? | 15:15 |
| seb128 | nessita, no | 15:16 |
| seb128 | nessita, wait, what do you call fields? | 15:16 |
| nessita | seb128: text entries | 15:16 |
| seb128 | glade properties or entries showing on screen? | 15:16 |
| * nessita knew it wasn't gonna be so easy | 15:16 | |
| nessita | seb128: entries showing | 15:16 |
| seb128 | if it makes you ui be different from a screenshot already taken yes you need an exception for the change | 15:17 |
| htorque_ | didrocks, no i don't but it's only closed upstream | 15:17 |
| didrocks | htorque_: you can close the distro task as invalid and writing "no more reproduceable" | 15:17 |
| didrocks | or I can do it if you want :) | 15:18 |
| htorque_ | didrocks, ok, will do :) | 15:18 |
| didrocks | thanks | 15:18 |
| bcurtiswx | is indicator-me an #ayatana topic? | 15:18 |
| nessita | seb128: I see. Who do I have to beg to get a UI exception? | 15:18 |
| seb128 | nessita, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess | 15:18 |
| seb128 | nessita, read "UserInterfaceFreeze Exceptions" | 15:18 |
| * nessita obeys | 15:19 | |
| seb128 | nessita, it's easy, just email the documentation list (and translation list if you change a string) | 15:19 |
| seb128 | nessita, then subscribe ubuntu-release to the bug with an explanation of the change | 15:19 |
| devildante | mvo: how do we test gnome-codec-install? | 15:19 |
| mvo | devildante: there is a readme, hold on a sec | 15:20 |
| mvo | gnome-codec-install 'gstreamer|0.10|totem|DivX MPEG-4 Version 5 decoder|decoder-video/x-divx, divxversion=(int)5' | 15:20 |
| mvo | is what I usually do | 15:21 |
| devildante | mvo: what is it supposed to show? launching it just says there is no plug-ins | 15:23 |
| nessita | seb128: perfect, thanks! I wrote the bug report and joshuahoover will handle the exception request | 15:24 |
| mvo | devildante: could you remove gstreamer0.10-plugins-ffmpeg ? | 15:24 |
| seb128 | nessita, thanks | 15:25 |
| nessita | thank you! | 15:25 |
| seb128 | mvo, devildante: gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg it's called rather | 15:25 |
| devildante | mvo, seb128: thanks :) | 15:26 |
| rodrigo_ | kenvandine, seb128: please merge https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~rodrigo-moya/ubuntu/maverick/couchdb-glib/0_6_96_release/+merge/34206 when possible (package just uploaded, in the queue) | 15:43 |
| devildante | mvo: I made it work ;) do you want a merge request or a patch? (seeing as I worked against the ubuntu branch) | 15:44 |
| kenvandine | rodrigo_, will do | 15:44 |
| mvo | devildante: you rock \o/ | 15:44 |
| rodrigo_ | kenvandine, cool, thanks, but I guess you'll have to wait for the package to be accepted? | 15:44 |
| mvo | devildante: either patch or merge request, I don't mind ;) | 15:44 |
| rodrigo_ | kenvandine, coming an evo-couchdb branch | 15:44 |
| kenvandine | rodrigo_, probably a good idea | 15:44 |
| kenvandine | let me know when that is up too and i will merge them at the same time | 15:44 |
| nessita | hi mvo! yesteday I landed a branch to fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-sso-client/+bug/624127, you may wanna try it (from trunk for now) | 15:45 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 624127 in ubuntu-sso-client (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "Sign-on dialog won't open a second time, give traceback (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [High,Triaged] | 15:45 |
| rodrigo_ | kenvandine, ok, I'll ping you again when both are in the archive | 15:45 |
| mvo | nessita: sweet, thanks for the fix! | 15:46 |
| nessita | mvo: np, and sorry for the delay :-) | 15:47 |
| kenvandine | rodrigo_, thx | 15:47 |
| * kenvandine got bit by desktopcouch trying to protect me... grrrr | 15:48 | |
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| devildante | mvo: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~ilidrissi.amine/ubuntu/maverick/gnome-codec-install/fix-bug-615508/+merge/34207 | 15:53 |
| mvo | thanks devildante \o/ | 16:01 |
| devildante | you're welcome, mvo :) | 16:01 |
| and471 | hey everyone | 16:12 |
| devildante | hi, and471 :) | 16:13 |
| and471 | hey devildante | 16:13 |
| devildante | and471, out of curiosity, where is your software-updater branch? | 16:13 |
| and471 | devildante, lp:~and471/+junk/software-updater | 16:14 |
| devildante | thanks, and471 :) | 16:15 |
| and471 | devildante, np, tell me if you find any bugs! | 16:15 |
| devildante | and471: okay :) | 16:15 |
| and471 | devildante, (you may want to run with --test-buttons) | 16:15 |
| and471 | this will give you a row of buttons so you can select each screen regardless of the behaviour in the spec | 16:16 |
| devildante | and471: okay, okay ;) | 16:16 |
| and471 | hehe | 16:17 |
| ronoc | bl8: you there ? | 16:17 |
| devildante | and471: this is awesome! too bad it's just kind of a running mockup :p | 16:20 |
| and471 | devildante, hehe, not really, it should all work! | 16:21 |
| and471 | devildante, try running with --test-buttons and it should check for updates, then give you a screen with available updates | 16:21 |
| and471 | installing of updates doesn't work yet tho | 16:21 |
| and471 | but the rest should! | 16:21 |
| glatzor | huhu mvo | 16:26 |
| mvo | hey glatzor | 16:26 |
| and471 | hey glatzor | 16:35 |
| glatzor | hello and471! how are you? | 16:35 |
| and471 | glatzor, good thanks! just had my first day at work, are you rested now? | 16:36 |
| and471 | devildante, sorry I meant without --test-buttons | 16:36 |
| glatzor | and471, your first first day? | 16:37 |
| and471 | glatzor, yup | 16:37 |
| glatzor | and471, how does it feel? | 16:37 |
| and471 | glatzor, dunno really, I am a bit tired, but that was because we had to do a lot of boring training on the computers | 16:38 |
| glatzor | and471, I am old and will never be fully rested again :) but I am at home now, yes. :) | 16:38 |
| and471 | if we got a question wrong we had to watch the whole boring video all over again... | 16:38 |
| and471 | hehe | 16:38 |
| glatzor | and471, may I ask what you were trained for? | 16:39 |
| and471 | glatzor, food service counter... | 16:40 |
| and471 | cutting fish and meat XD | 16:40 |
| * and471 wonders how much more offtopic we can get before someone says something :D | 16:41 | |
| glatzor | and471, you will get a tough man! | 16:42 |
| glatzor | though | 16:42 |
| * glatzor is vegan | 16:42 | |
| and471 | haha | 16:42 |
| and471 | oh well this isn't a job for you :P | 16:42 |
| glatzor | doesn't seem so :) | 16:43 |
| glatzor | and471, and you trained cutting animals into pieces on a computer? | 16:46 |
| and471 | glatzor, something like that... | 16:46 |
| glatzor | and471, was it a kind of wii? | 16:46 |
| glatzor | :) | 16:47 |
| and471 | glatzor, no we were just doing fire alarm procedures, health and safety etc. | 16:47 |
| * glatzor cannot be taken serious today | 16:47 | |
| and471 | haha | 16:47 |
| and471 | glatzor, hopefully when we train to cut meat...we cut meat :) | 16:47 |
| glatzor | and471, I am currently writing more documentation on my bus/train rides. So this should land in the trunk branch of aptdaemon soon | 16:48 |
| and471 | glatzor, ah cool :) | 16:48 |
| * and471 is writing documentation himself right now | 16:49 | |
| rodrigo_ | kenvandine, ping | 16:52 |
| Riddell | seb128: when is the meeting? | 16:53 |
| glatzor | and471, have you continued working on software-updater? | 16:54 |
| and471 | glatzor, yes | 16:54 |
| seb128 | Riddell, same time as usual, in 35 minutes | 16:55 |
| Riddell | ok, should be time for a test install | 16:55 |
| kenvandine | rodrigo_, pong | 16:58 |
| rodrigo_ | kenvandine, nothing now, I was having a problem building the libu1 python bindings, but seems it works now | 16:58 |
| kenvandine | ok | 16:59 |
| mpt | devildante, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareCenter?action=diff&rev2=425&rev1=424 | 17:18 |
| mpt | devildante, kiwinote: Has the code definition of "add-on" settled down over the past few days? Is now a good time to record it? | 17:20 |
| seb128 | desktop team meeting in 1 minute | 17:29 |
| pedro_ | hola | 17:29 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, didrocks, tremolux, Riddell, kenvandine, rickspencer3, pedro_: hi | 17:30 |
| didrocks | hey o/ | 17:30 |
| chrisccoulson | hi! | 17:30 |
| seb128 | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Meeting/2010-08-31 | 17:30 |
| pedro_ | welcome back didrocks ;-) | 17:30 |
| tremolux | hiya all! | 17:30 |
| seb128 | I hope everybody is doing fine | 17:30 |
| tremolux | hey didrocks o/ | 17:30 |
| didrocks | thanks pedro_, tremolux ;) | 17:30 |
| Riddell | hi | 17:31 |
| seb128 | let's get started | 17:31 |
| seb128 | I don't think we had actions from the previous meeting | 17:31 |
| seb128 | so, partner update | 17:31 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, hey | 17:31 |
| * kenvandine waves | 17:32 | |
| kenvandine | sure | 17:32 |
| kenvandine | starting with U1 | 17:32 |
| kenvandine | there is still a SSO bug that should be fixed this week with a server update | 17:32 |
| kenvandine | and i think u1music is still broken, https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/572381 | 17:33 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 572381 in rhythmbox-ubuntuone-music-store (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Ubuntu One Store not showing (dup-of: 624616)" [High,In progress] | 17:33 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 624616 in rhythmbox-ubuntuone-music-store (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 2 other projects) "rhythmbox-ubuntuone-music-store without icon (affects: 7) (dups: 2) (heat: 36)" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 17:33 |
| kenvandine | rodrigo_, any status on that? | 17:33 |
| kenvandine | also, josh just told me they will have a UIF exception request | 17:33 |
| rodrigo_ | kenvandine, fixed in the last package upload | 17:33 |
| * kenvandine crosses fingers | 17:34 | |
| kenvandine | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-sso-client/+bug/627440 | 17:34 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 627440 in ubuntu-sso-client (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "[UI Freeze Exception] Registration UI is too tall for small screens (affects: 2) (heat: 14)" [High,Triaged] | 17:34 |
| kenvandine | moving on to DX | 17:34 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, you might want to ping #ubuntu-release about it | 17:34 |
| seb128 | not sure if it will made to beta or not | 17:35 |
| kenvandine | they have prepared a wiki page to track their exception requests | 17:35 |
| rodrigo_ | seb128, ok | 17:35 |
| kenvandine | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Meeting/2010-08-31/DesktopExperienceTeam/MaverickReleaseStatus#Freeze%2520Exceptions%2520Requests | 17:35 |
| kenvandine | basically they will have some, you can review them there and raise concerns as needed | 17:35 |
| kenvandine | they are mostly UI tweaks | 17:36 |
| kenvandine | that is all i have | 17:36 |
| kenvandine | any questions? | 17:36 |
| kenvandine | comments? | 17:36 |
| kenvandine | Riddell, is U1 working ok in kubuntu? did those issues get addressed? | 17:36 |
| Riddell | kenvandine: a whole new issue happened with another rewrite of ubuntu-sso | 17:37 |
| Riddell | apachelogger has written a KDE frontend to it but it needs kwallet support still | 17:37 |
| kenvandine | ok | 17:37 |
| kenvandine | sigh... | 17:37 |
| kenvandine | ok, well moving on i guess :) | 17:38 |
| * kenvandine hands mic back to seb128 | 17:38 | |
| Riddell | online services needs to learn how to work with the community really | 17:38 |
| seb128 | thanks kenvandine | 17:38 |
| seb128 | Riddell, was there any interaction between them and the kubuntu team this cycle? | 17:39 |
| kenvandine | Riddell, i'll bring that up with them | 17:39 |
| Riddell | seb128: no, only bits here and there when apachelogger asked. they don't even have a mailing list as far as I know | 17:39 |
| seb128 | ok, something to improve next cycle | 17:39 |
| kenvandine | yeah, i'll raise that | 17:39 |
| seb128 | dx is better nowadays than ols for that | 17:39 |
| kenvandine | we can make that better | 17:40 |
| seb128 | ok, let's move on | 17:40 |
| seb128 | we can but not today there ;-) | 17:40 |
| seb128 | Riddell, since you are there, kubuntu update? | 17:40 |
| Riddell | - ubiquity was troublesome but evan stayed up late to fix bugs, but I suspect there's some more bugs to iron out yet | 17:40 |
| Riddell | - kdebindings and rdepends building on ARM now, am hopeful for images ready for beta | 17:40 |
| Riddell | - KDE SC 4.5.1 out today, will upload after beta | 17:40 |
| Riddell | - mpris 2 support got into Amarok thanks to Aurelien | 17:40 |
| Riddell | - http://tinyurl.com/33p7vu3 5 milestoned bugs, hopefully 2 are fixed already, probably more to come after beta | 17:40 |
| seb128 | quite short list of milestone bugs ;-) | 17:41 |
| rodrigo_ | Riddell, seb128: we have talked with apachelogger about the changes | 17:41 |
| Riddell | seb128: it'll grow I'm sure | 17:41 |
| rodrigo_ | he knows at least since 2/3 weeks ago | 17:41 |
| rodrigo_ | and we have a mailing list -> ubuntuone-users@ | 17:42 |
| seb128 | rodrigo_, ok | 17:42 |
| seb128 | let's discuss that after the meeting maybe | 17:42 |
| rodrigo_ | ok | 17:42 |
| seb128 | does anybody has questions or comments for Riddell? | 17:42 |
| seb128 | Riddell, thanks | 17:42 |
| seb128 | didrocks, hey | 17:43 |
| seb128 | didrocks, UNE update? | 17:43 |
| didrocks | hey o/ seb128 made the release. All was troubleless near the swimming pool for me in the meantime. Wonderful experience on my side :) | 17:43 |
| didrocks | more seriously, a lot of bug fix last week from what I saw, but still some | 17:43 |
| kenvandine | hehe | 17:43 |
| didrocks | seb128 and I are making some last minute dx update for beta | 17:44 |
| didrocks | more bug fixing in the two coming weeks and MT support landing this release | 17:44 |
| didrocks | any questions/remarks on annoying bug not listed yet? | 17:44 |
| seb128 | to clarify the previous week version has gesture support | 17:45 |
| didrocks | (there will be some little ui changes too, but UNE is less impacted as there is no documentation AFAIK) | 17:45 |
| seb128 | but extra use of that and change are still coming this week, after that they will stop it seems | 17:45 |
| seb128 | didrocks, do you want to mention the banshee situation? | 17:45 |
| didrocks | sure | 17:45 |
| didrocks | so, banshee will have a new release tomorrow | 17:45 |
| didrocks | with finally udev backend | 17:46 |
| didrocks | no more hal | 17:46 |
| didrocks | but that requires no components (already packaged) and coordination with Laney and hyperair | 17:46 |
| didrocks | new gpod release too | 17:46 |
| didrocks | so, seems risky | 17:46 |
| didrocks | in any case, what we can do is landing that in the current universe package (we are on a unstable release in any case) | 17:46 |
| seb128 | do you know if somebody tested the musicstore recently on banshee? | 17:46 |
| didrocks | ask for testing on OMGUbuntu site and get user testing | 17:47 |
| didrocks | I didn't for a month, I don't know if other have done | 17:47 |
| seb128 | ok | 17:47 |
| didrocks | it was working great (apart from the empty mp3 file not included) | 17:47 |
| seb128 | so let's get the update in universe this week | 17:47 |
| seb128 | can you take an action to check the musicstore for next week? | 17:48 |
| didrocks | added to my TODO :) | 17:48 |
| pedro_ | gpod? is banshee using gpod now? | 17:48 |
| seb128 | thanks | 17:48 |
| seb128 | pedro_, yes ;-) | 17:48 |
| pedro_ | cool, i hate podsleuth. | 17:48 |
| seb128 | ok | 17:48 |
| seb128 | thanks didrocks | 17:48 |
| didrocks | yw :) | 17:49 |
| seb128 | tremolux, hey | 17:49 |
| seb128 | tremolux, software-center update? | 17:49 |
| tremolux | hi seb128 | 17:49 |
| tremolux | you bet | 17:49 |
| tremolux | Buy Something: Enabled by default for beta, serverside compoments to go live this week for limited testing, focus on bugfixing now | 17:49 |
| tremolux | New Apps: Custom metadata fix from Launchpad team to go live on next LP update (target Sep. 8th) | 17:49 |
| tremolux | UI Enhancements: New addons feature merged; many thanks to devildante for this feature, and thanks to kiwinote as well | 17:49 |
| tremolux | mvo implemented a very effective (and well-received) "where is it" feature for locating installed apps in the menu | 17:49 |
| tremolux | (more details on wiki, thanks!) | 17:49 |
| tremolux | so, lots of things in for beta, now testing and bugfixing | 17:50 |
| tremolux | any questions or comments? | 17:50 |
| seb128 | nice to see the buy something getting there | 17:50 |
| tremolux | yes | 17:50 |
| seb128 | so you wrote that there is a rt for extras.ubuntu.com | 17:50 |
| tremolux | yes | 17:50 |
| seb128 | did you get any reply on that yet? | 17:50 |
| seb128 | do they have any estimation on when that will be done? | 17:51 |
| tremolux | I haven't, but it's not *urgent* yet | 17:51 |
| seb128 | well, it's not urgent but better in a week than in a month still | 17:51 |
| tremolux | yes, exactly | 17:51 |
| seb128 | thanks for tracking that in any case ;-) | 17:51 |
| tremolux | I've pinged elmo again, and raised it in our weekly s-c meeting | 17:52 |
| seb128 | ok, great | 17:52 |
| seb128 | is the screenshot item something you still think will get done this cycle? | 17:52 |
| seb128 | "support screenshots for apps in extras.ubuntu.com (see screenshots for third party spec): TODO" | 17:52 |
| tremolux | I think the issue there is where the screenshots will be stored | 17:52 |
| seb128 | that's sort of why I'm asking | 17:53 |
| seb128 | if that's not sorted yet seems it's getting late? | 17:53 |
| seb128 | do you have status updates on those changes somewhere? | 17:53 |
| tremolux | yes, agreed, I will check that | 17:53 |
| seb128 | thanks | 17:53 |
| tremolux | I think that one has been on the back-burner, but you are right to point it out and thanks for that | 17:54 |
| seb128 | let me know during the week if you get a status update | 17:54 |
| tremolux | sounds good, I will | 17:54 |
| seb128 | thanks tremolux | 17:54 |
| seb128 | that's all from me | 17:54 |
| seb128 | other questions? comments? | 17:54 |
| tremolux | thanks seb128 | 17:54 |
| seb128 | ok, seems not, let's move on | 17:54 |
| seb128 | pedro_, hey | 17:54 |
| pedro_ | Hello | 17:54 |
| seb128 | so pedro_ is joining our meeting, welcome to him | 17:55 |
| seb128 | he's going to do a weekly qa status update | 17:55 |
| chrisccoulson | hi pedro_ | 17:55 |
| tremolux | hello pedro_! | 17:55 |
| pedro_ | glad to be here :-) | 17:55 |
| seb128 | pedro_, the mic is yours ;-) | 17:55 |
| pedro_ | ok so i'd like to raise some bugs to your attention | 17:55 |
| pedro_ | bug 586012 | 17:55 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 586012 in xfce4-panel (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "[Maverick] XFCE system tray became unusable after libgtk upgrade (affects: 13) (dups: 4) (heat: 88)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/586012 | 17:55 |
| pedro_ | what would be the final word on that one? | 17:55 |
| pedro_ | latest comment said it will be reviewed after alpha2 and we're getting there | 17:56 |
| seb128 | it seemed that it was due to gtk rgba changes | 17:56 |
| seb128 | which we dropped since, they were not ready | 17:56 |
| pedro_ | summary: gtk rgba changes | 17:56 |
| seb128 | could you check with the submitter if that's still an issue? | 17:56 |
| pedro_ | right so they are not going to be enabled in maverick? | 17:56 |
| pedro_ | seb128, yes | 17:56 |
| seb128 | pedro_, no rgba in maverick no | 17:57 |
| seb128 | we turned it off and it's staying this way | 17:57 |
| pedro_ | ok i'll talk with the xfce guys | 17:57 |
| seb128 | thanks | 17:57 |
| pedro_ | the other bug: bug 623516 | 17:57 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 623516 in empathy (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "empathy crashed because depend on package telepathy-logger (affects: 5) (dups: 2) (heat: 28)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/623516 | 17:57 |
| pedro_ | they are requesting a depends on the telepathy-logger | 17:57 |
| seb128 | ok, we discussed that today on #telepathy | 17:57 |
| pedro_ | probably is too late to do that? | 17:57 |
| seb128 | we will change the recommends to a depends after beta | 17:57 |
| seb128 | it's not an issue for new install and should not be for upgrades | 17:58 |
| seb128 | out of people not getting recommends for some reason | 17:58 |
| pedro_ | ok will update the bug to reflect that so we keep on the track | 17:58 |
| seb128 | but indeed we should fix that | 17:58 |
| seb128 | I will make sure it goes in after beta | 17:58 |
| seb128 | pedro_, thanks | 17:58 |
| pedro_ | i have a couple for lucid that might be good to look as well: bug 609855 | 17:58 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 609855 in totem (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Totem unable to play youtube videos (affects: 11) (heat: 158)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/609855 | 17:58 |
| pedro_ | again, youtube is broken | 17:58 |
| seb128 | I guess it's another server side change | 17:59 |
| seb128 | I will check that later on | 17:59 |
| pedro_ | the change doesn't seems to be too bad http://git.gnome.org/browse/totem/commit/?id=50027abd715acc24978e7830162c70c7e1a05811 | 17:59 |
| kenvandine | love supporting services we have no control over :/ | 17:59 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, indeed | 17:59 |
| pedro_ | yeah... | 17:59 |
| * kenvandine glares at twitter and facebook! | 17:59 | |
| pedro_ | bug 534225 | 17:59 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 534225 in gnome-terminal (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "[lucid] setup_http_proxy_env constructs no_proxy incorrectly (affects: 27) (dups: 5) (heat: 119)" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/534225 | 17:59 |
| pedro_ | that bug ^ is fixed on Maverick, but still as fix committed | 18:00 |
| pedro_ | could get commit someone to make the fix that in Lucid? | 18:00 |
| chrisccoulson | b'ah, i was meant to upload the stable gnome-terminal to lucid ages ago ;) | 18:00 |
| seb128 | pedro_, ok, feel free to close it then, we will get somebody working on the lucid update | 18:00 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, ^ | 18:00 |
| seb128 | so it's yours ;-) | 18:00 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, i'd planned on doing it ages ago, then forgot about it | 18:00 |
| pedro_ | ok i'll accept the nomination there then | 18:00 |
| chrisccoulson | ok, i will fix ;) | 18:00 |
| pedro_ | thanks chrisccoulson :-) | 18:00 |
| seb128 | thanks chrisccoulson, pedro_ | 18:00 |
| pedro_ | other that it would look good to fix, bug 219385 | 18:01 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 219385 in gtk+2.0 (CentOS) (and 4 other projects) "File filters can make file selection dialog too wide for screen (affects: 20) (dups: 13) (heat: 170)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/219385 | 18:01 |
| pedro_ | the change is not too aggressive either and it would make us look even better | 18:01 |
| seb128 | would be nice, that's fixed in gtk3 but the changes don't seem trivial for current gtk | 18:01 |
| pedro_ | ah it's on gtk3 mm... | 18:01 |
| seb128 | well I think it relies on the layout changes in gtk3 | 18:01 |
| seb128 | pedro_, any other one? | 18:02 |
| pedro_ | i'm not a developer ;-) so would be nice if someone could investigate | 18:02 |
| seb128 | yeah, we will | 18:02 |
| pedro_ | yes just a couple | 18:02 |
| pedro_ | these are the ones that would be nice to keep an eye | 18:02 |
| pedro_ | bug 405544 | 18:02 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 405544 in linux (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 4 other projects) "Kernel does not recognize blank optical media (affects: 88) (dups: 13) (heat: 387)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/405544 | 18:03 |
| seb128 | just drop the numbers maybe in list | 18:03 |
| pedro_ | bug 617399 | 18:03 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 617399 in f-spot (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) ""Filename path must be absolute" error when opening image with "F-Spot Photo Manager" (affects: 6) (dups: 2) (heat: 236)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/617399 | 18:03 |
| pedro_ | bug 621445 | 18:03 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 621445 in rhythmbox (Ubuntu) "rhythmbox crashed with SIGSEGV in g_closure_invoke() (affects: 44) (dups: 3) (heat: 210)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/621445 | 18:03 |
| pedro_ | and bug 625793 | 18:03 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 625793 in indicator-application (and 1 other project) "sometimes keyboard layout automatically changed (affects: 3) (heat: 14)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/625793 | 18:03 |
| pedro_ | those are generating some duplicates or being raised in mailing lists | 18:03 |
| seb128 | ok | 18:04 |
| seb128 | I will check out on those later | 18:04 |
| pedro_ | so just keep an eye in case those could affect a more wider audience, i'm keeping tracks of those but is never bad to have an extra pair of eyes there | 18:04 |
| seb128 | I don't think we need to discuss every bug in the meeting | 18:04 |
| seb128 | right | 18:04 |
| pedro_ | no that's ok | 18:04 |
| seb128 | pedro_, great list, thanks | 18:04 |
| pedro_ | seb128, that's all from here unless there's a question | 18:04 |
| seb128 | next week could you copy your list on the wiki before the meeting maybe? | 18:04 |
| chrisccoulson | no mozilla bugs? :) | 18:04 |
| pedro_ | seb128, yes it will go there next week | 18:04 |
| seb128 | so I can try to have a quick overview before the meeting | 18:04 |
| seb128 | thanks | 18:04 |
| pedro_ | chrisccoulson, i'll add some for next meeting | 18:05 |
| seb128 | pedro_, otherwise any special concern about the release? | 18:05 |
| seb128 | any component you think is buggy or should get special care? | 18:05 |
| pedro_ | i'm a bit worried about two things | 18:05 |
| pedro_ | the changes on gtk that are making apps to crash | 18:05 |
| pedro_ | like rhythmbox, evolution, etc | 18:05 |
| seb128 | right, I'm working on dx for those | 18:05 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, i'm finding appmenu-gtk is crashing nearly everything that doesn't export a menu right now | 18:05 |
| pedro_ | i'm counting libindicate as part of that as well | 18:05 |
| seb128 | it's mainly their appmenu thing | 18:05 |
| chrisccoulson | including nm-applet | 18:06 |
| pedro_ | and the retracers being broken :-( | 18:06 |
| seb128 | right, that's blocked on launchpad | 18:06 |
| pedro_ | i hope we don't miss any important crash | 18:06 |
| pedro_ | right | 18:06 |
| seb128 | I'm trying to push them but they move slowly | 18:06 |
| seb128 | I'm concerned about that as well | 18:06 |
| pedro_ | besides that i think the release is looking good so far | 18:06 |
| seb128 | hopefully that gets fixed this week | 18:06 |
| pedro_ | for next cycle would be nice to see more coordination with the dx team to get those changes earlier | 18:07 |
| seb128 | the appmenu-gtk crash for things not exporting a menu might be fixing in trunk | 18:07 |
| seb128 | if somebody wants to try | 18:07 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, i'll try that later | 18:07 |
| seb128 | pedro_, we do try but they tend to be busy ;-) | 18:07 |
| seb128 | thanks pedro_ | 18:07 |
| * seb128 hugs pedro_ | 18:07 | |
| pedro_ | my pleasure | 18:07 |
| seb128 | nice status update | 18:07 |
| * pedro_ hugs seb128 | 18:07 | |
| pedro_ | oh just a short announcement | 18:08 |
| seb128 | sure | 18:08 |
| pedro_ | the Thursday 02 we're having a bug day for empathy | 18:08 |
| seb128 | nice | 18:08 |
| pedro_ | so next week we're probably going to have some more bugs raised from there | 18:08 |
| seb128 | the new version is in the queue | 18:08 |
| seb128 | so it will be in after beta | 18:08 |
| pedro_ | awesome | 18:08 |
| bcurtiswx | pedro_: i will DEF be on -bugs to help with that | 18:08 |
| seb128 | thanks pedro_ | 18:08 |
| pedro_ | bcurtiswx, \o/ | 18:08 |
| seb128 | let's move on | 18:09 |
| pedro_ | you're welcome | 18:09 |
| seb128 | bcurtiswx, great ;-) | 18:09 |
| seb128 | http://people.canonical.com/~pitti/workitems/maverick/canonical-desktop-team-ubuntu-10.10-beta.html | 18:09 |
| seb128 | so we are on shape for beta | 18:09 |
| seb128 | not a lot to say, every should help testing isos | 18:09 |
| seb128 | beta shapes to be solid out of some small issues | 18:09 |
| seb128 | great work everybody | 18:09 |
| seb128 | I've started milestoning bugs, I will dispatch some to team members | 18:10 |
| seb128 | so please watch your assigned bugs | 18:10 |
| seb128 | if you don't filter those out in some way you should | 18:10 |
| seb128 | if you find any bug we should fix for maverick please nominate it for maverick | 18:11 |
| seb128 | you can also assign to the team if you want so it's on our list | 18:11 |
| seb128 | that's it from me | 18:11 |
| seb128 | does anybody has questions or comments? | 18:11 |
| kenvandine | just a quick update on twitter... it will be broken for users until we get this update out | 18:11 |
| seb128 | starting today? | 18:12 |
| kenvandine | yes | 18:12 |
| seb128 | urg | 18:12 |
| kenvandine | sometime today they turn off basic auth | 18:12 |
| seb128 | when will the update be out? | 18:12 |
| kenvandine | as soon as i get an ack from ryan on my branches | 18:12 |
| kenvandine | after the meeting i'll get both maverick and lucid versions in a PPA for people to start testing | 18:12 |
| seb128 | ok | 18:12 |
| seb128 | let's try to get that in just after beta | 18:12 |
| kenvandine | but my changes are pretty intrusive, so need to make sure upstream is OK with it | 18:13 |
| seb128 | you can maybe get it in the desktop ppa for testing as well | 18:13 |
| kenvandine | so we have a good maintanance path | 18:13 |
| seb128 | ok | 18:13 |
| kenvandine | hopefully we can get the SRU through quick... we'll talk about that soon | 18:13 |
| kenvandine | that is it | 18:13 |
| seb128 | ok thanks | 18:13 |
| seb128 | other comments? | 18:13 |
| seb128 | seems not | 18:14 |
| seb128 | thanks everybody | 18:14 |
| seb128 | I've to run but I will be back alter | 18:14 |
| tremolux | thanks all | 18:14 |
| seb128 | later | 18:14 |
| didrocks | thanks everyone | 18:14 |
| pedro_ | thanks | 18:14 |
| kenvandine | ok, later! | 18:14 |
| bcurtiswx | when/if someone gets time (no rush) https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~bcurtiswx/ubuntu/lucid/empathy/empathy-2.30.3/+merge/34223 | 18:19 |
| === mpt_ is now known as mpt | ||
| devildante | like usual, I'm late for the usc update :p | 19:42 |
| devildante | thanks for the merge, mvo :) | 19:46 |
| mvo | devildante: thank you ! | 19:48 |
| mvo | devildante: I will upload right after the freeze is over | 19:49 |
| devildante | mvo: okay, take your time :) | 19:50 |
| vish | devildante: hey, did you figure out why the menu wouldnt hide? | 19:52 |
| devildante | vish: no :( | 19:52 |
| vish | :( | 19:52 |
| === lamalex__ is now known as lamalex | ||
| kenvandine | seb128, gwibber uploaded to ~ubuntu-desktop for both lucid and maverick | 21:18 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, excellent | 21:18 |
| seb128 | thanks! | 21:18 |
| kenvandine | everyone please test :) | 21:18 |
| kenvandine | the account UI is completely different... for twitter only... but has to be | 21:19 |
| seb128 | do you think you should do a call for testing on the lists? | 21:19 |
| kenvandine | and i was careful to use no new strings | 21:19 |
| kenvandine | shared all the strings from facebook | 21:19 |
| kenvandine | yeah | 21:19 |
| kenvandine | was going to mail ubuntu-desktop | 21:19 |
| kenvandine | think that is enough? | 21:19 |
| seb128 | yes | 21:20 |
| seb128 | you could as well blog about it I guess | 21:20 |
| bcurtiswx | ppa:~ubuntu-desktop/ppa ? | 21:21 |
| kenvandine | ok | 21:23 |
| jason__ | How can I given different applications different desktop geometries. I have a kiosk application that uses the right 1/4 of the screen for status information. I don't want the user to be able to move applications like vlc and flash windows into the right 1/4 of the screen even if they run in full screen mode. | 21:31 |
| RAOF | jason__: This is the wrong channel for that sort of question (it's about development _of_ ubuntu, not development _on_ ubuntu). | 23:43 |
| RAOF | jason__: That said, you want to look into the WM_STRUT window hint. | 23:43 |
| TheMuso | RAOF: Interesting news re ATI hardware being rebranded. | 23:50 |
| * RAOF has missed that, mostly. | 23:50 | |
| RAOF | But it's getting rebranded to AMD, right? | 23:50 |
| TheMuso | Yep. | 23:51 |
| RAOF | Ow. Pushups suck. | 23:59 |
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