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[reed]any ETA on linux-backports-modules-2.6.32 getting approved for upload?03:35
lagericm|ubuntu: Good morning07:22
ericm|ubuntulag, what's the status of the parport_pc issue?07:23
lagIt's fixed in our kernel, but the fix is not upstreamable 07:23
lagThe real fix is to re-write the parport driver07:23
lagI was going to suggest it as a possible tast for GregKH's driver project, but my membership still hasn't been processed07:24
ericm|ubuntulag, ok07:25
lagericm|ubuntu: Why do you ask?07:26
ericm|ubuntulag, dove has the same issue07:26
ericm|ubuntulag, but can be fixed other way around, making a valid ISA I/O space on it07:26
lagI see07:26
lagYou are more than welcome to pull the fix from our kernel07:26
ericm|ubuntulag, but even on OMAP or some other ARM sub-architectures, I guess the ISA I/O support can be different from board to board07:27
ericm|ubuntuso a run-time decision as to whether the I/O space is valid on a board could be necessary for this07:28
ericm|ubuntuotherwise, we have to go for the ultimate solution of introducing platform device for the parport (without even probing for them on ARM)07:28
lagericm|ubuntu: That's the problem in a nutshell - you can't probe for parport07:30
lagThe solution is a re-write, including Platform Device usage 07:31
ericm|ubuntulag, right - and the board code has to explicitly declare the platform devices for its parports07:32
ericm|ubuntulag, for ARM at least, on PC possibly still need probing without introducing platform devices though07:33
lagericm|ubuntu: Correct! Even if a PC has no parport, the addresses are at least reserved 07:33
ericm|ubuntulag, but such a fix would take some time07:34
ericm|ubuntulag, esp. when you don't have those "special" ARM machines with parport that rmk has07:35
lagericm|ubuntu: Correct, but what do you suggest?07:37
ericm|ubuntulag, nothing - just not sure if you wanna take the time to fix that :-)07:38
lagericm|ubuntu: This is quite a big job, one I don't have the time for at the moment08:22
lagericm|ubuntu: I'll speak to GregKH again08:22
ericm|ubuntulag, OK thanks08:23
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hallynis it the case that -stable kernel updates are rolled into backported kernels (i.e. lucid)?14:29
tgardnerhallyn, confused about hat you mean by backported.14:31
tgardnerwhat*14:31
tgardnerstable updates are applied to Lucid which is then periodically uploaded14:32
hallyntgardner: sorry, yeah i just meant into the lucid kernel14:45
hallynthere are 3 signal patches (from Oleg) which fix up lxc container exiting, was thinking of opening a bug to see if they can be merged into lucid's kernel, but someone suggested just going to stable@kernel.org14:46
tgardnerhallyn, we regularly apply most of the patches from linux-2.6.32.y to Lucid, with the exception of DRM and sfc which are from linux-2.6.33.y14:46
hallyncool.  still, there's no actual oopses being cleaned up, so not sure -stable will take them.  worth a try perhaps though14:47
tgardnerif your container patch is accepted into upstream stable for .32, then we'll pick it up automatically14:47
hallynthanks14:47
hallynthat's probably the best route then14:47
tgardneryep14:47
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lagcnd: I just muted you, as you were pressing your PTT :)16:28
lagcnd: If you can't figure out how to un-mute yourself, let me know and I'll do it16:29
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cndlag, sorry about that16:58
cndon macs there's no separate windows key16:58
cndso I have to use a key that I use for other stuff already :(16:58
ckingfunny if macs had a windows key16:59
cndheh16:59
lag:)16:59
lagNo problem16:59
tgardnercnd: we're tired of listening to you snore :)16:59
lagI use Right Ctrl16:59
ogasawara##17:00
ogasawara## Kernel team meeting in one hour in #ubuntu-meeting17:00
ogasawara##17:00
ckinggah, where did the day go?17:00
lagogasawara: Wow - you lot are good17:00
lag:)17:00
smbogasawara, on the minute. amzing. :)17:00
ogasawaraheh, well I'm obsessive and have an alarm to remind me the minute before to post the reminder :)17:01
smb:D17:01
ckingdo you have another alarm to remind you to set the alarm?17:01
ogasawaracking: hehe, it's a vicious cycle17:01
ckingrather too alarming to consider17:02
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lagcking: That was awful17:08
lagcking: Comedy is all about _timing_17:08
JFoIRC is a difficult media for comedy17:11
lagJFo: You should never shy away from a challenge 17:17
JFoI never do17:17
JFoall I said was it was difficult :)17:17
lag:D17:17
Keybukhowever I, RC, is perfect, for William, Shatner, impersonations17:18
JFoKeybuk, true17:18
lagKeybuk: If you're into that sort of thing17:20
lagKeybuk: I'm more of a Jean-Luc Picard person myself17:20
lagKeybuk: I should say "Patrick Stewart" really, to keep it in context17:22
keessmb: fun catch with mlock. how did you notice it?17:35
smbkees, I was staring at the code long enough when trying to find out what made Hardy go bad with Xen17:35
keesah-ha!17:36
smbkees, There was some discussion upstream I saw, where someone pointed Linus to the fact that Xen locks parts of the stack to do hypercalls. But due to a bug in the implementation it had not the crashing effect than our backport for Hardy that did the things sort of "right"17:38
keesah, ew17:39
smbkees, By now two of the three places are fixed upstream and the next upload to proposed has these too. But I never heard of really bad effects (just that it could cause nothing to get mlocked in some cases)17:40
keessmb: yeah, very little reads its own maps file for stack operations (but some do).17:41
smbkees, The worse part is that when we have that split stack, the check for something hitting the vma below might trigger for anything but the lowest stack vma.17:43
smbI am just unsure how to force that case17:43
sconklinhey JFo, a bunch of kernel fixes are assigned to alsa-driver, which is OK, but they seem to use fix-committed to mean upstream commits.17:44
JFohmmm17:44
JFothat is odd17:44
sconklinhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/57616017:44
ubot2Launchpad bug 576160 in alsa-driver (Ubuntu) "[SigmaTel STAC9228] Recording problem (affects: 2) (heat: 36)" [Low,Fix committed]17:44
sconklinexample17:44
smbkees, That was the last change that made a difference between xm_restore working or failing in Hardy17:44
keesyeah17:45
JFosconklin, I think on these we need to add a kernel task, do you think?17:45
JFothat way we can use our task to show when we pull 17:46
sconklinoh, probably so. I haven't been17:46
JFobut I am open to suggestion if that is too cumbersome17:46
sconklinbut we should. And we should ask the alsa-driver maintainers to do that so it is on our radar17:46
JFoyeah, otherwise things will get dropped17:47
sconklinI'll ping dchen about it17:47
JFok17:49
sconklinJFo: could you approve https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/573120 for lucid?17:49
ubot2Launchpad bug 573120 in linux (Ubuntu) "acpi_backlight=video does not work (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Undecided,Fix released]17:50
JFoyep17:50
sconklinthanks!17:50
JFono problem17:50
JFodone17:50
ogasawara##18:00
ogasawara## Kernel team meeting starting now in #ubuntu-meeting18:00
ogasawara##18:00
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sconklinJFo: , approve for lucid please? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/42299418:14
ubot2Launchpad bug 422994 in linux (Ubuntu) "sata_via hard resetting link / freeze: exception Emask 0x12 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x1000500 action 0x6 (affects: 12) (heat: 77)" [Undecided,Confirmed]18:14
JFosconklin, done18:16
sconklinthx18:16
JFonp18:16
sconklinJFo, and also https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/599569 ?18:19
ubot2Launchpad bug 599569 in linux (Ubuntu) "No kernel support for Sierra Wireless 250U 3G/4G USB Dongle (affects: 4) (heat: 71)" [Undecided,Triaged]18:19
sconklinThis is a heck of a process, right?18:19
JFoeh, it's ok :)18:20
JFosconklin, done18:20
JFoat least with this I can feel like I accomplished something18:21
sconklinthis should result in a number of bugs popping off the top list eventually18:22
JFoworks for me18:26
sconklinJFo : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/61943918:37
ubot2Launchpad bug 619439 in linux (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "[ICH4 - Intel 82801DB-ICH4] ALSA test tone not correctly played back, don't get any audio (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Incomplete]18:37
sconklinJFo: approve for lucid please? ^^18:45
JFodone :)18:46
JFosorry it took forever to load18:46
sconklinnp18:46
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sconklinJFo: please approve lucid for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/57616018:54
ubot2Launchpad bug 576160 in linux (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "[SigmaTel STAC9228] Recording problem (affects: 2) (heat: 14)" [Low,Invalid]18:54
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JFosconklin, done18:56
tgardneris there a sysctl that allows writes when using an NFS loopback mount?18:59
sconklinJFo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/580749 please?19:02
ubot2Launchpad bug 580749 in linux (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Pulseaudio is not running VT1708 (affects: 1) (heat: 12)" [Undecided,New]19:02
JFosconklin, done19:05
sconklinJFo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/583983 plse19:13
ubot2Launchpad bug 583983 in linux (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Sound capture (microphone) works on LiveCD, but don't work after installation (affects: 4) (heat: 20)" [Undecided,New]19:13
JFosconklin, done19:14
sconklinthanks, just run a tab . . .19:14
JFoheh19:15
sconklinJFo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/46594219:17
ubot2Launchpad bug 465942 in linux (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Hardware device disappearing from Sound Preferences on ASUS 0x104381b3 (affects: 8) (heat: 40)" [Undecided,New]19:17
JFosconklin, done19:18
sconklinJFo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/55194919:21
ubot2Launchpad bug 551949 in linux (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "ubuntu-bug alsa-base Popping Clicking Pulse Audio crashing (affects: 4) (heat: 24)" [Undecided,New]19:21
sconklinI'm a button-pushing monkey19:21
JFoheh19:21
JFodone19:22
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sconklinJFo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/54956019:24
ubot2Launchpad bug 549560 in linux (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Mic input don't work after installation on hd (Toshiba A100-259/ATI IXP SB4x0 HD/ALC861) (affects: 2) (heat: 14)" [Undecided,New]19:24
JFosconklin, done19:26
sconklinJFo: thanks, and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/58754619:29
ubot2Launchpad bug 587546 in linux (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Pulseaudio fails after several seconds (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New]19:29
JFodude, no sweat19:30
JFosconklin, done19:30
sconklinwe're near the end19:30
JFoheh19:30
sconklinJFo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/58634719:36
ubot2Launchpad bug 586347 in linux (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "0x104d9069 needs LPIB quirk (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New]19:36
JFosconklin, done19:45
sconklinJFo: thanks, all done19:47
JFocool man19:51
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cndJFo, I've been watching a bug, and a community member has a patch19:56
cndthey've been attaching kernel modules for others to try19:57
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cndI've asked him to send his patch to our list and/or upstream, but nothing yet19:57
cnddo you think you could find someone on our team to take a look at it, cause I'm swamped19:57
cndbug 55062519:57
ubot2Launchpad bug 550625 in linux (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 2 other projects) "Alps touchpad is recognized but synaptics clients and scrolling do not work (affects: 105) (dups: 9) (heat: 528)" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/55062519:57
achianganyone know if the lucid kernel supports the TRIM command?19:57
jolanprobably not since trim went into .33 and lucid is .3220:00
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achianghm, ok, thx20:01
JFocnd, yeah20:02
JFoI'm on it20:02
cndJFo, awesome, thanks!20:02
JFonp20:02
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GrueMasterAccording to the kernel meeting minutes, there is a 2.6.35 kernel for omap4.  Is that going to be rolled into the beta image or after?22:23
ogasawaraGrueMaster: I was under the impression we were told to hold off on uploading that kernel until after Beta22:35
ogasawaraGrueMaster: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kernel-team/2010-August/012475.html22:35
GrueMasterok, just checking.22:35
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