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[reed] | any ETA on linux-backports-modules-2.6.32 getting approved for upload? | 03:35 |
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lag | ericm|ubuntu: Good morning | 07:22 |
ericm|ubuntu | lag, what's the status of the parport_pc issue? | 07:23 |
lag | It's fixed in our kernel, but the fix is not upstreamable | 07:23 |
lag | The real fix is to re-write the parport driver | 07:23 |
lag | I was going to suggest it as a possible tast for GregKH's driver project, but my membership still hasn't been processed | 07:24 |
ericm|ubuntu | lag, ok | 07:25 |
lag | ericm|ubuntu: Why do you ask? | 07:26 |
ericm|ubuntu | lag, dove has the same issue | 07:26 |
ericm|ubuntu | lag, but can be fixed other way around, making a valid ISA I/O space on it | 07:26 |
lag | I see | 07:26 |
lag | You are more than welcome to pull the fix from our kernel | 07:26 |
ericm|ubuntu | lag, but even on OMAP or some other ARM sub-architectures, I guess the ISA I/O support can be different from board to board | 07:27 |
ericm|ubuntu | so a run-time decision as to whether the I/O space is valid on a board could be necessary for this | 07:28 |
ericm|ubuntu | otherwise, we have to go for the ultimate solution of introducing platform device for the parport (without even probing for them on ARM) | 07:28 |
lag | ericm|ubuntu: That's the problem in a nutshell - you can't probe for parport | 07:30 |
lag | The solution is a re-write, including Platform Device usage | 07:31 |
ericm|ubuntu | lag, right - and the board code has to explicitly declare the platform devices for its parports | 07:32 |
ericm|ubuntu | lag, for ARM at least, on PC possibly still need probing without introducing platform devices though | 07:33 |
lag | ericm|ubuntu: Correct! Even if a PC has no parport, the addresses are at least reserved | 07:33 |
ericm|ubuntu | lag, but such a fix would take some time | 07:34 |
ericm|ubuntu | lag, esp. when you don't have those "special" ARM machines with parport that rmk has | 07:35 |
lag | ericm|ubuntu: Correct, but what do you suggest? | 07:37 |
ericm|ubuntu | lag, nothing - just not sure if you wanna take the time to fix that :-) | 07:38 |
lag | ericm|ubuntu: This is quite a big job, one I don't have the time for at the moment | 08:22 |
lag | ericm|ubuntu: I'll speak to GregKH again | 08:22 |
ericm|ubuntu | lag, OK thanks | 08:23 |
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hallyn | is it the case that -stable kernel updates are rolled into backported kernels (i.e. lucid)? | 14:29 |
tgardner | hallyn, confused about hat you mean by backported. | 14:31 |
tgardner | what* | 14:31 |
tgardner | stable updates are applied to Lucid which is then periodically uploaded | 14:32 |
hallyn | tgardner: sorry, yeah i just meant into the lucid kernel | 14:45 |
hallyn | there are 3 signal patches (from Oleg) which fix up lxc container exiting, was thinking of opening a bug to see if they can be merged into lucid's kernel, but someone suggested just going to stable@kernel.org | 14:46 |
tgardner | hallyn, we regularly apply most of the patches from linux-2.6.32.y to Lucid, with the exception of DRM and sfc which are from linux-2.6.33.y | 14:46 |
hallyn | cool. still, there's no actual oopses being cleaned up, so not sure -stable will take them. worth a try perhaps though | 14:47 |
tgardner | if your container patch is accepted into upstream stable for .32, then we'll pick it up automatically | 14:47 |
hallyn | thanks | 14:47 |
hallyn | that's probably the best route then | 14:47 |
tgardner | yep | 14:47 |
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lag | cnd: I just muted you, as you were pressing your PTT :) | 16:28 |
lag | cnd: If you can't figure out how to un-mute yourself, let me know and I'll do it | 16:29 |
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cnd | lag, sorry about that | 16:58 |
cnd | on macs there's no separate windows key | 16:58 |
cnd | so I have to use a key that I use for other stuff already :( | 16:58 |
cking | funny if macs had a windows key | 16:59 |
cnd | heh | 16:59 |
lag | :) | 16:59 |
lag | No problem | 16:59 |
tgardner | cnd: we're tired of listening to you snore :) | 16:59 |
lag | I use Right Ctrl | 16:59 |
ogasawara | ## | 17:00 |
ogasawara | ## Kernel team meeting in one hour in #ubuntu-meeting | 17:00 |
ogasawara | ## | 17:00 |
cking | gah, where did the day go? | 17:00 |
lag | ogasawara: Wow - you lot are good | 17:00 |
lag | :) | 17:00 |
smb | ogasawara, on the minute. amzing. :) | 17:00 |
ogasawara | heh, well I'm obsessive and have an alarm to remind me the minute before to post the reminder :) | 17:01 |
smb | :D | 17:01 |
cking | do you have another alarm to remind you to set the alarm? | 17:01 |
ogasawara | cking: hehe, it's a vicious cycle | 17:01 |
cking | rather too alarming to consider | 17:02 |
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lag | cking: That was awful | 17:08 |
lag | cking: Comedy is all about _timing_ | 17:08 |
JFo | IRC is a difficult media for comedy | 17:11 |
lag | JFo: You should never shy away from a challenge | 17:17 |
JFo | I never do | 17:17 |
JFo | all I said was it was difficult :) | 17:17 |
lag | :D | 17:17 |
Keybuk | however I, RC, is perfect, for William, Shatner, impersonations | 17:18 |
JFo | Keybuk, true | 17:18 |
lag | Keybuk: If you're into that sort of thing | 17:20 |
lag | Keybuk: I'm more of a Jean-Luc Picard person myself | 17:20 |
lag | Keybuk: I should say "Patrick Stewart" really, to keep it in context | 17:22 |
kees | smb: fun catch with mlock. how did you notice it? | 17:35 |
smb | kees, I was staring at the code long enough when trying to find out what made Hardy go bad with Xen | 17:35 |
kees | ah-ha! | 17:36 |
smb | kees, There was some discussion upstream I saw, where someone pointed Linus to the fact that Xen locks parts of the stack to do hypercalls. But due to a bug in the implementation it had not the crashing effect than our backport for Hardy that did the things sort of "right" | 17:38 |
kees | ah, ew | 17:39 |
smb | kees, By now two of the three places are fixed upstream and the next upload to proposed has these too. But I never heard of really bad effects (just that it could cause nothing to get mlocked in some cases) | 17:40 |
kees | smb: yeah, very little reads its own maps file for stack operations (but some do). | 17:41 |
smb | kees, The worse part is that when we have that split stack, the check for something hitting the vma below might trigger for anything but the lowest stack vma. | 17:43 |
smb | I am just unsure how to force that case | 17:43 |
sconklin | hey JFo, a bunch of kernel fixes are assigned to alsa-driver, which is OK, but they seem to use fix-committed to mean upstream commits. | 17:44 |
JFo | hmmm | 17:44 |
JFo | that is odd | 17:44 |
sconklin | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/576160 | 17:44 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 576160 in alsa-driver (Ubuntu) "[SigmaTel STAC9228] Recording problem (affects: 2) (heat: 36)" [Low,Fix committed] | 17:44 |
sconklin | example | 17:44 |
smb | kees, That was the last change that made a difference between xm_restore working or failing in Hardy | 17:44 |
kees | yeah | 17:45 |
JFo | sconklin, I think on these we need to add a kernel task, do you think? | 17:45 |
JFo | that way we can use our task to show when we pull | 17:46 |
sconklin | oh, probably so. I haven't been | 17:46 |
JFo | but I am open to suggestion if that is too cumbersome | 17:46 |
sconklin | but we should. And we should ask the alsa-driver maintainers to do that so it is on our radar | 17:46 |
JFo | yeah, otherwise things will get dropped | 17:47 |
sconklin | I'll ping dchen about it | 17:47 |
JFo | k | 17:49 |
sconklin | JFo: could you approve https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/573120 for lucid? | 17:49 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 573120 in linux (Ubuntu) "acpi_backlight=video does not work (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Undecided,Fix released] | 17:50 |
JFo | yep | 17:50 |
sconklin | thanks! | 17:50 |
JFo | no problem | 17:50 |
JFo | done | 17:50 |
ogasawara | ## | 18:00 |
ogasawara | ## Kernel team meeting starting now in #ubuntu-meeting | 18:00 |
ogasawara | ## | 18:00 |
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sconklin | JFo: , approve for lucid please? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/422994 | 18:14 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 422994 in linux (Ubuntu) "sata_via hard resetting link / freeze: exception Emask 0x12 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x1000500 action 0x6 (affects: 12) (heat: 77)" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 18:14 |
JFo | sconklin, done | 18:16 |
sconklin | thx | 18:16 |
JFo | np | 18:16 |
sconklin | JFo, and also https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/599569 ? | 18:19 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 599569 in linux (Ubuntu) "No kernel support for Sierra Wireless 250U 3G/4G USB Dongle (affects: 4) (heat: 71)" [Undecided,Triaged] | 18:19 |
sconklin | This is a heck of a process, right? | 18:19 |
JFo | eh, it's ok :) | 18:20 |
JFo | sconklin, done | 18:20 |
JFo | at least with this I can feel like I accomplished something | 18:21 |
sconklin | this should result in a number of bugs popping off the top list eventually | 18:22 |
JFo | works for me | 18:26 |
sconklin | JFo : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/619439 | 18:37 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 619439 in linux (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "[ICH4 - Intel 82801DB-ICH4] ALSA test tone not correctly played back, don't get any audio (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 18:37 |
sconklin | JFo: approve for lucid please? ^^ | 18:45 |
JFo | done :) | 18:46 |
JFo | sorry it took forever to load | 18:46 |
sconklin | np | 18:46 |
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sconklin | JFo: please approve lucid for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/576160 | 18:54 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 576160 in linux (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "[SigmaTel STAC9228] Recording problem (affects: 2) (heat: 14)" [Low,Invalid] | 18:54 |
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JFo | sconklin, done | 18:56 |
tgardner | is there a sysctl that allows writes when using an NFS loopback mount? | 18:59 |
sconklin | JFo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/580749 please? | 19:02 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 580749 in linux (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Pulseaudio is not running VT1708 (affects: 1) (heat: 12)" [Undecided,New] | 19:02 |
JFo | sconklin, done | 19:05 |
sconklin | JFo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/583983 plse | 19:13 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 583983 in linux (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Sound capture (microphone) works on LiveCD, but don't work after installation (affects: 4) (heat: 20)" [Undecided,New] | 19:13 |
JFo | sconklin, done | 19:14 |
sconklin | thanks, just run a tab . . . | 19:14 |
JFo | heh | 19:15 |
sconklin | JFo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/465942 | 19:17 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 465942 in linux (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Hardware device disappearing from Sound Preferences on ASUS 0x104381b3 (affects: 8) (heat: 40)" [Undecided,New] | 19:17 |
JFo | sconklin, done | 19:18 |
sconklin | JFo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/551949 | 19:21 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 551949 in linux (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "ubuntu-bug alsa-base Popping Clicking Pulse Audio crashing (affects: 4) (heat: 24)" [Undecided,New] | 19:21 |
sconklin | I'm a button-pushing monkey | 19:21 |
JFo | heh | 19:21 |
JFo | done | 19:22 |
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sconklin | JFo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/549560 | 19:24 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 549560 in linux (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Mic input don't work after installation on hd (Toshiba A100-259/ATI IXP SB4x0 HD/ALC861) (affects: 2) (heat: 14)" [Undecided,New] | 19:24 |
JFo | sconklin, done | 19:26 |
sconklin | JFo: thanks, and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/587546 | 19:29 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 587546 in linux (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Pulseaudio fails after several seconds (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] | 19:29 |
JFo | dude, no sweat | 19:30 |
JFo | sconklin, done | 19:30 |
sconklin | we're near the end | 19:30 |
JFo | heh | 19:30 |
sconklin | JFo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/586347 | 19:36 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 586347 in linux (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "0x104d9069 needs LPIB quirk (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] | 19:36 |
JFo | sconklin, done | 19:45 |
sconklin | JFo: thanks, all done | 19:47 |
JFo | cool man | 19:51 |
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cnd | JFo, I've been watching a bug, and a community member has a patch | 19:56 |
cnd | they've been attaching kernel modules for others to try | 19:57 |
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cnd | I've asked him to send his patch to our list and/or upstream, but nothing yet | 19:57 |
cnd | do you think you could find someone on our team to take a look at it, cause I'm swamped | 19:57 |
cnd | bug 550625 | 19:57 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 550625 in linux (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 2 other projects) "Alps touchpad is recognized but synaptics clients and scrolling do not work (affects: 105) (dups: 9) (heat: 528)" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/550625 | 19:57 |
achiang | anyone know if the lucid kernel supports the TRIM command? | 19:57 |
jolan | probably not since trim went into .33 and lucid is .32 | 20:00 |
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achiang | hm, ok, thx | 20:01 |
JFo | cnd, yeah | 20:02 |
JFo | I'm on it | 20:02 |
cnd | JFo, awesome, thanks! | 20:02 |
JFo | np | 20:02 |
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GrueMaster | According to the kernel meeting minutes, there is a 2.6.35 kernel for omap4. Is that going to be rolled into the beta image or after? | 22:23 |
ogasawara | GrueMaster: I was under the impression we were told to hold off on uploading that kernel until after Beta | 22:35 |
ogasawara | GrueMaster: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kernel-team/2010-August/012475.html | 22:35 |
GrueMaster | ok, just checking. | 22:35 |
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