[03:35] <[reed]> any ETA on linux-backports-modules-2.6.32 getting approved for upload?
[07:22] <lag> ericm|ubuntu: Good morning
[07:23] <ericm|ubuntu> lag, what's the status of the parport_pc issue?
[07:23] <lag> It's fixed in our kernel, but the fix is not upstreamable 
[07:23] <lag> The real fix is to re-write the parport driver
[07:24] <lag> I was going to suggest it as a possible tast for GregKH's driver project, but my membership still hasn't been processed
[07:25] <ericm|ubuntu> lag, ok
[07:26] <lag> ericm|ubuntu: Why do you ask?
[07:26] <ericm|ubuntu> lag, dove has the same issue
[07:26] <ericm|ubuntu> lag, but can be fixed other way around, making a valid ISA I/O space on it
[07:26] <lag> I see
[07:26] <lag> You are more than welcome to pull the fix from our kernel
[07:27] <ericm|ubuntu> lag, but even on OMAP or some other ARM sub-architectures, I guess the ISA I/O support can be different from board to board
[07:28] <ericm|ubuntu> so a run-time decision as to whether the I/O space is valid on a board could be necessary for this
[07:28] <ericm|ubuntu> otherwise, we have to go for the ultimate solution of introducing platform device for the parport (without even probing for them on ARM)
[07:30] <lag> ericm|ubuntu: That's the problem in a nutshell - you can't probe for parport
[07:31] <lag> The solution is a re-write, including Platform Device usage 
[07:32] <ericm|ubuntu> lag, right - and the board code has to explicitly declare the platform devices for its parports
[07:33] <ericm|ubuntu> lag, for ARM at least, on PC possibly still need probing without introducing platform devices though
[07:33] <lag> ericm|ubuntu: Correct! Even if a PC has no parport, the addresses are at least reserved 
[07:34] <ericm|ubuntu> lag, but such a fix would take some time
[07:35] <ericm|ubuntu> lag, esp. when you don't have those "special" ARM machines with parport that rmk has
[07:37] <lag> ericm|ubuntu: Correct, but what do you suggest?
[07:38] <ericm|ubuntu> lag, nothing - just not sure if you wanna take the time to fix that :-)
[08:22] <lag> ericm|ubuntu: This is quite a big job, one I don't have the time for at the moment
[08:22] <lag> ericm|ubuntu: I'll speak to GregKH again
[08:23] <ericm|ubuntu> lag, OK thanks
[14:29] <hallyn> is it the case that -stable kernel updates are rolled into backported kernels (i.e. lucid)?
[14:31] <tgardner> hallyn, confused about hat you mean by backported.
[14:31] <tgardner> what*
[14:32] <tgardner> stable updates are applied to Lucid which is then periodically uploaded
[14:45] <hallyn> tgardner: sorry, yeah i just meant into the lucid kernel
[14:46] <hallyn> there are 3 signal patches (from Oleg) which fix up lxc container exiting, was thinking of opening a bug to see if they can be merged into lucid's kernel, but someone suggested just going to stable@kernel.org
[14:46] <tgardner> hallyn, we regularly apply most of the patches from linux-2.6.32.y to Lucid, with the exception of DRM and sfc which are from linux-2.6.33.y
[14:47] <hallyn> cool.  still, there's no actual oopses being cleaned up, so not sure -stable will take them.  worth a try perhaps though
[14:47] <tgardner> if your container patch is accepted into upstream stable for .32, then we'll pick it up automatically
[14:47] <hallyn> thanks
[14:47] <hallyn> that's probably the best route then
[14:47] <tgardner> yep
[16:28] <lag> cnd: I just muted you, as you were pressing your PTT :)
[16:29] <lag> cnd: If you can't figure out how to un-mute yourself, let me know and I'll do it
[16:58] <cnd> lag, sorry about that
[16:58] <cnd> on macs there's no separate windows key
[16:58] <cnd> so I have to use a key that I use for other stuff already :(
[16:59] <cking> funny if macs had a windows key
[16:59] <cnd> heh
[16:59] <lag> :)
[16:59] <lag> No problem
[16:59] <tgardner> cnd: we're tired of listening to you snore :)
[16:59] <lag> I use Right Ctrl
[17:00] <ogasawara> ##
[17:00] <ogasawara> ## Kernel team meeting in one hour in #ubuntu-meeting
[17:00] <ogasawara> ##
[17:00] <cking> gah, where did the day go?
[17:00] <lag> ogasawara: Wow - you lot are good
[17:00] <lag> :)
[17:00] <smb> ogasawara, on the minute. amzing. :)
[17:01] <ogasawara> heh, well I'm obsessive and have an alarm to remind me the minute before to post the reminder :)
[17:01] <smb> :D
[17:01] <cking> do you have another alarm to remind you to set the alarm?
[17:01] <ogasawara> cking: hehe, it's a vicious cycle
[17:02] <cking> rather too alarming to consider
[17:08] <lag> cking: That was awful
[17:08] <lag> cking: Comedy is all about _timing_
[17:11] <JFo> IRC is a difficult media for comedy
[17:17] <lag> JFo: You should never shy away from a challenge 
[17:17] <JFo> I never do
[17:17] <JFo> all I said was it was difficult :)
[17:17] <lag> :D
[17:18] <Keybuk> however I, RC, is perfect, for William, Shatner, impersonations
[17:18] <JFo> Keybuk, true
[17:20] <lag> Keybuk: If you're into that sort of thing
[17:20] <lag> Keybuk: I'm more of a Jean-Luc Picard person myself
[17:22] <lag> Keybuk: I should say "Patrick Stewart" really, to keep it in context
[17:35] <kees> smb: fun catch with mlock. how did you notice it?
[17:35] <smb> kees, I was staring at the code long enough when trying to find out what made Hardy go bad with Xen
[17:36] <kees> ah-ha!
[17:38] <smb> kees, There was some discussion upstream I saw, where someone pointed Linus to the fact that Xen locks parts of the stack to do hypercalls. But due to a bug in the implementation it had not the crashing effect than our backport for Hardy that did the things sort of "right"
[17:39] <kees> ah, ew
[17:40] <smb> kees, By now two of the three places are fixed upstream and the next upload to proposed has these too. But I never heard of really bad effects (just that it could cause nothing to get mlocked in some cases)
[17:41] <kees> smb: yeah, very little reads its own maps file for stack operations (but some do).
[17:43] <smb> kees, The worse part is that when we have that split stack, the check for something hitting the vma below might trigger for anything but the lowest stack vma.
[17:43] <smb> I am just unsure how to force that case
[17:44] <sconklin> hey JFo, a bunch of kernel fixes are assigned to alsa-driver, which is OK, but they seem to use fix-committed to mean upstream commits.
[17:44] <JFo> hmmm
[17:44] <JFo> that is odd
[17:44] <sconklin> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/576160
[17:44] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 576160 in alsa-driver (Ubuntu) "[SigmaTel STAC9228] Recording problem (affects: 2) (heat: 36)" [Low,Fix committed]
[17:44] <sconklin> example
[17:44] <smb> kees, That was the last change that made a difference between xm_restore working or failing in Hardy
[17:45] <kees> yeah
[17:45] <JFo> sconklin, I think on these we need to add a kernel task, do you think?
[17:46] <JFo> that way we can use our task to show when we pull 
[17:46] <sconklin> oh, probably so. I haven't been
[17:46] <JFo> but I am open to suggestion if that is too cumbersome
[17:46] <sconklin> but we should. And we should ask the alsa-driver maintainers to do that so it is on our radar
[17:47] <JFo> yeah, otherwise things will get dropped
[17:47] <sconklin> I'll ping dchen about it
[17:49] <JFo> k
[17:49] <sconklin> JFo: could you approve https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/573120 for lucid?
[17:50] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 573120 in linux (Ubuntu) "acpi_backlight=video does not work (affects: 1) (heat: 10)" [Undecided,Fix released]
[17:50] <JFo> yep
[17:50] <sconklin> thanks!
[17:50] <JFo> no problem
[17:50] <JFo> done
[18:00] <ogasawara> ##
[18:00] <ogasawara> ## Kernel team meeting starting now in #ubuntu-meeting
[18:00] <ogasawara> ##
[18:14] <sconklin> JFo: , approve for lucid please? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/422994
[18:14] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 422994 in linux (Ubuntu) "sata_via hard resetting link / freeze: exception Emask 0x12 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x1000500 action 0x6 (affects: 12) (heat: 77)" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[18:16] <JFo> sconklin, done
[18:16] <sconklin> thx
[18:16] <JFo> np
[18:19] <sconklin> JFo, and also https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/599569 ?
[18:19] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 599569 in linux (Ubuntu) "No kernel support for Sierra Wireless 250U 3G/4G USB Dongle (affects: 4) (heat: 71)" [Undecided,Triaged]
[18:19] <sconklin> This is a heck of a process, right?
[18:20] <JFo> eh, it's ok :)
[18:20] <JFo> sconklin, done
[18:21] <JFo> at least with this I can feel like I accomplished something
[18:22] <sconklin> this should result in a number of bugs popping off the top list eventually
[18:26] <JFo> works for me
[18:37] <sconklin> JFo : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/619439
[18:37] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 619439 in linux (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "[ICH4 - Intel 82801DB-ICH4] ALSA test tone not correctly played back, don't get any audio (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Incomplete]
[18:45] <sconklin> JFo: approve for lucid please? ^^
[18:46] <JFo> done :)
[18:46] <JFo> sorry it took forever to load
[18:46] <sconklin> np
[18:54] <sconklin> JFo: please approve lucid for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/576160
[18:54] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 576160 in linux (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "[SigmaTel STAC9228] Recording problem (affects: 2) (heat: 14)" [Low,Invalid]
[18:56] <JFo> sconklin, done
[18:59] <tgardner> is there a sysctl that allows writes when using an NFS loopback mount?
[19:02] <sconklin> JFo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/580749 please?
[19:02] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 580749 in linux (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Pulseaudio is not running VT1708 (affects: 1) (heat: 12)" [Undecided,New]
[19:05] <JFo> sconklin, done
[19:13] <sconklin> JFo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/583983 plse
[19:13] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 583983 in linux (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Sound capture (microphone) works on LiveCD, but don't work after installation (affects: 4) (heat: 20)" [Undecided,New]
[19:14] <JFo> sconklin, done
[19:14] <sconklin> thanks, just run a tab . . .
[19:15] <JFo> heh
[19:17] <sconklin> JFo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/465942
[19:17] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 465942 in linux (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Hardware device disappearing from Sound Preferences on ASUS 0x104381b3 (affects: 8) (heat: 40)" [Undecided,New]
[19:18] <JFo> sconklin, done
[19:21] <sconklin> JFo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/551949
[19:21] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 551949 in linux (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "ubuntu-bug alsa-base Popping Clicking Pulse Audio crashing (affects: 4) (heat: 24)" [Undecided,New]
[19:21] <sconklin> I'm a button-pushing monkey
[19:21] <JFo> heh
[19:22] <JFo> done
[19:22]  * tgardner lunches
[19:24] <sconklin> JFo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/549560
[19:24] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 549560 in linux (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Mic input don't work after installation on hd (Toshiba A100-259/ATI IXP SB4x0 HD/ALC861) (affects: 2) (heat: 14)" [Undecided,New]
[19:26] <JFo> sconklin, done
[19:29] <sconklin> JFo: thanks, and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/587546
[19:29] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 587546 in linux (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Pulseaudio fails after several seconds (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New]
[19:30] <JFo> dude, no sweat
[19:30] <JFo> sconklin, done
[19:30] <sconklin> we're near the end
[19:30] <JFo> heh
[19:36] <sconklin> JFo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/586347
[19:36] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 586347 in linux (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "0x104d9069 needs LPIB quirk (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New]
[19:45] <JFo> sconklin, done
[19:47] <sconklin> JFo: thanks, all done
[19:51] <JFo> cool man
[19:56] <cnd> JFo, I've been watching a bug, and a community member has a patch
[19:57] <cnd> they've been attaching kernel modules for others to try
[19:57] <cnd> I've asked him to send his patch to our list and/or upstream, but nothing yet
[19:57] <cnd> do you think you could find someone on our team to take a look at it, cause I'm swamped
[19:57] <cnd> bug 550625
[19:57] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 550625 in linux (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 2 other projects) "Alps touchpad is recognized but synaptics clients and scrolling do not work (affects: 105) (dups: 9) (heat: 528)" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/550625
[19:57] <achiang> anyone know if the lucid kernel supports the TRIM command?
[20:00] <jolan> probably not since trim went into .33 and lucid is .32
[20:01]  * jjohansen -> lunch
[20:01] <achiang> hm, ok, thx
[20:02] <JFo> cnd, yeah
[20:02] <JFo> I'm on it
[20:02] <cnd> JFo, awesome, thanks!
[20:02] <JFo> np
[20:28]  * ogasawara lunch
[22:23] <GrueMaster> According to the kernel meeting minutes, there is a 2.6.35 kernel for omap4.  Is that going to be rolled into the beta image or after?
[22:35] <ogasawara> GrueMaster: I was under the impression we were told to hold off on uploading that kernel until after Beta
[22:35] <ogasawara> GrueMaster: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/kernel-team/2010-August/012475.html
[22:35] <GrueMaster> ok, just checking.
[22:41]  * GrueMaster goes back to his little world.