| gnomefreak | micahg: what was the reason for not shipping ff4 in Maverick? | 00:29 |
|---|---|---|
| gnomefreak | people were asking today | 00:29 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: not ready yet | 00:38 |
| gnomefreak | ok so 11.04 than | 00:39 |
| gnomefreak | thanks | 00:39 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: yeah, but it'll be in firefox-stable | 00:39 |
| gnomefreak | ok so i can send people there? | 00:39 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: yeah, well it won't be updated until 4.0 is released since 3.6.x is in all releases at the moment | 00:40 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: I'll have a beta up soon, just don't know when yet | 00:40 |
| gnomefreak | k | 00:41 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: I'll update /topic when I know more | 00:41 |
| micahg | I've been trying to keep it up to date with the latest stuff | 00:41 |
| gnomefreak | micahg: thanks. i may update #ubuntu+1 topic if more people ask | 00:41 |
| gnomefreak | i get updates every day or 2 | 00:42 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: they were spoiled with hardy and joaunty | 00:42 |
| micahg | *jaunty | 00:42 |
| gnomefreak | yeha but they are both close to EOL. should we really bother with them | 00:43 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: not what I meant | 00:43 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: hardy had 3.0 before release and jaunty had 3.5 | 00:44 |
| gnomefreak | oh yeah | 00:44 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: we won't be doing that anymore :) | 00:44 |
| gnomefreak | sorry forgot about that | 00:44 |
| micahg | we'll use the PPAs to give people early looks and save the archive maintainence | 00:45 |
| gnomefreak | we 3.6 is intended to run its course than EOL. only 4.0 will will continue the update cycle | 00:45 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: we're hoping to get to april 2011 so we don't need to update hardy and karmic | 00:46 |
| micahg | then jump lucid to the newest 4.x release | 00:46 |
| micahg | and maverick | 00:46 |
| gnomefreak | do we really want to reomve 3.6 | 00:46 |
| gnomefreak | remove | 00:46 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: what do you mean? | 00:47 |
| gnomefreak | jump lucid to 4.x is that with 3.6 still there | 00:47 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: no, that's why we move to unversioned source packages | 00:47 |
| micahg | xulrunner-1.9.2 will remain though for the apps w/out insecure coontent | 00:47 |
| gnomefreak | right so we are not going to wait for 3.6.x to reach EOL | 00:48 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: no, we will | 00:48 |
| gnomefreak | oh | 00:48 |
| micahg | we're hoping that won't happen until april 2011 though | 00:48 |
| gnomefreak | i thought 3.6 EOL was closer to this time next year | 00:48 |
| * gnomefreak checks to see what version i have | 00:49 | |
| micahg | gnomefreak: probably not, should be 6 months after 4.0 release | 00:49 |
| gnomefreak | 3.6.10~hg20100828r34553 | 00:49 |
| gnomefreak | i cant believe we are on 3.6.9 already | 00:49 |
| micahg | gnomefreak: well, it's been out for 7 months, 3.6.5 was skipped and 3.6.6/3.6.8 were chemspil releases | 00:50 |
| gnomefreak | yeah i remember 3.6.5 was skipped | 00:50 |
| gnomefreak | ok i cant view my bookmarks in chromium unless i go to bookmark manager | 00:53 |
| gnomefreak | not having fun with chromium today | 00:54 |
| gnomefreak | ok using the incognito window shows them as it should but normal window does not have a way to view them | 00:55 |
| gnomefreak | even safe mode doesnt show them. is there a setting im missing? | 00:56 |
| gnomefreak | found it | 00:57 |
| gnomefreak | ok here we go. crosses fingers and upgrades again | 01:00 |
| Dimmuxx | http://www.thewildernessdowntown.com/ pretty cool chrome demo site | 01:00 |
| gnomefreak | that is cool | 01:02 |
| gnomefreak | i stand by my word when i say update-manager sucks its way too slow | 01:04 |
| [reed] | where's asac when I need him | 03:34 |
| micahg | [reed]: idk, can I help with something? | 03:34 |
| [reed] | I need his mobile broadband skills | 03:35 |
| micahg | oh | 03:35 |
| [reed] | can't get my verizon mobile broadband working on my new work laptop | 03:35 |
| [reed] | works in windows, sadly :( | 03:36 |
| micahg | [reed]: is this relavent? http://www.linux.com/archive/articles/52729 | 03:39 |
| cherricerra | is it necessary to download latest thunderbird to upgrade from old one? | 03:42 |
| micahg | cherricerra: please be more specific? | 03:43 |
| cherricerra | i downloaded 3.1 and am trying to run it and cant seem to get it | 03:43 |
| micahg | cherricerra: from where? | 03:43 |
| micahg | cherricerra: what is your old version? | 03:44 |
| micahg | what version of Ubuntu? | 03:44 |
| cherricerra | 9.01 | 03:44 |
| micahg | cherricerra: we don't have an upgrade path yet from TB2 to 3.1, that's why it's not in the thunderbird-stable PPA yet, I hope to get to it soon | 03:45 |
| cherricerra | ok thanks so im out of luck | 03:46 |
| cherricerra | i guess i could still get the calendar add on though? | 03:46 |
| micahg | cherricerra: you can upgrade to 3.0.6 in the thunderbird-stable PPA, then you'll get the 3.1 upgrade when we push it | 03:46 |
| micahg | cherricerra: you have to download the calendar extension from mozilla at the moment, I can point you to the 64 bit build if you need | 03:47 |
| cherricerra | that would be great | 03:47 |
| micahg | cherricerra: sure, which build, 3.0 or 3.1? | 03:47 |
| cherricerra | does it have to match the version of tb i have now? | 03:48 |
| micahg | cherricerra: yes, unfortunately | 03:48 |
| cherricerra | no lie i'm a newb im not even sure which i have | 03:49 |
| micahg | cherricerra: go to about thunderbird | 03:49 |
| [reed] | micahg: well, I was hoping I could get network-manager to just work | 03:49 |
| [reed] | sigh | 03:49 |
| micahg | [reed]: you might be able to, I'm no n-m expert | 03:49 |
| cherricerra | 2.0.0.24 | 03:50 |
| micahg | cherricerra: you should just install from the repo then | 03:50 |
| micahg | cherricerra: it's called lightning-extension | 03:50 |
| cherricerra | ok thanks | 03:51 |
| cherricerra | i run into all kinds of problems not being able to upgrade to 10.04 is what i keep getting told | 03:52 |
| cherricerra | appreciate the help | 03:52 |
| micahg | cherricerra: np, come back anytime | 03:55 |
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| gnomefreak | micahg: any chance you can post the FF4.0 info <not making it into 10.10 before next cycle> i would like to have a link to refer people to. i added it to topic in #ubuntu+1 | 13:17 |
| gnomefreak | its not real important. atm i cant do it, not until i read guide on Mutt | 13:21 |
| chrisccoulson | gnomefreak, there isn't really anything written down anywhere for you to quote | 13:46 |
| chrisccoulson | it won't be in maverick because it isn't released in time ;) | 13:46 |
| gnomefreak | i know that i just cant fit that in /topic for +1 | 13:47 |
| chrisccoulson | why does it need to go in to the topic there? do people keep asking about it? | 13:47 |
| chrisccoulson | realistically, it never was really going to make it in to maverick | 13:48 |
| gnomefreak | yes and they are getting annoying with the questions | 13:48 |
| chrisccoulson | just ignore them ;) | 13:48 |
| chrisccoulson | lol | 13:48 |
| gnomefreak | lol | 13:48 |
| chrisccoulson | but, certainly don't send them in here ;) | 13:49 |
| gnomefreak | hell no | 13:49 |
| chrisccoulson | i would have thought it would have been obvious to most users why maverick ships with 3.6 | 13:49 |
| gnomefreak | its stable? | 13:49 |
| chrisccoulson | it's stable now, but still changing a lot ;) | 13:50 |
| gnomefreak | libgirepository1.0-0 is still an issue it seems | 13:51 |
| gnomefreak | oh | 13:51 |
| gnomefreak | i thought they pushed most if not all to 4.0 | 13:51 |
| chrisccoulson | well, there's certainly been quite a lot of under-the-hood changes in the last couple of weeks or so (because they completely broke our packaging) | 13:52 |
| chrisccoulson | IMO, it's too much of a moving target to consider even having it in universe | 13:52 |
| gnomefreak | oh nice of them to do that for us | 13:52 |
| chrisccoulson | (which some people have been asking for) | 13:52 |
| gnomefreak | we did that a while ago with 3.5 IIRC | 13:53 |
| gnomefreak | its was unstable version in universe and stable in main | 13:53 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, that was before PPA's were a viable alternative though | 13:53 |
| gnomefreak | yep | 13:53 |
| chrisccoulson | PPA's just suit the current workflow much better (we don't have to bother with freezes and other distro milestones) | 13:54 |
| gnomefreak | yep | 13:54 |
| gnomefreak | ill brb i need a damn smoke again | 13:55 |
| gnomefreak | !rtfm | 14:18 |
| ubot2 | Acronyms or statements like noob, jfgi, stfu, or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period. | 14:18 |
| gnomefreak | !no rtfm is <reply> Acronyms or statements like noob, jfgi, stfu, rtfm, or rtm are not welcome in this channel Period. | 14:19 |
| gnomefreak | !rtfm | 14:20 |
| ubot2 | Acronyms or statements like noob, jfgi, stfu, or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period. | 14:20 |
| gnomefreak | is there a reason why chromium keeps asking me if i want to set it to default when it already is? everytime i open chromium it asks | 14:30 |
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| micahg | chrisccoulson: I just poked the release approver for mozilla again about the NSPR bug | 19:38 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - thanks. yeah, we need to resolve this soon | 19:38 |
| chrisccoulson | so, has in-tree nss/nspr been upgraded to 3.12.7/4.8.6 in 1.9.2? | 19:39 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: yes, but it isn't actually required technically | 19:39 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: so if I don't get an answer, I'll patch it to work with NSPR 4.8 | 19:39 |
| micahg | and we can push in the morning to security PPA | 19:40 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, sounds ok. although i'm wondering if it would be safer to use the new version (to avoid having version skew between the different copies of nspr on the system) | 19:41 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm not sure if there are any plugins running in firefox that link against nspr | 19:41 |
| chrisccoulson | might be worth checking that and make sure you don't end up with 2 copies in memory | 19:42 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: enigmail links against nspr (thunderbird 3.1 also affected) | 19:42 |
| chrisccoulson | it would be worth checking that then | 19:42 |
| chrisccoulson | ah | 19:43 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: actually, that doesn't matter, your case does though since Firefox builds its own nspr | 19:43 |
| chrisccoulson | actually, thunderbird uses system nspr | 19:43 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: right :) | 19:43 |
| micahg | typing faster than brain... | 19:43 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, i'm thinking of cases where firefox pulls in it's own nspr, and then a plugin linking with nspr also pulls in the (different) system copy | 19:43 |
| chrisccoulson | although, LD_LIBRARY_PATH should stop that from happening | 19:44 |
| chrisccoulson | bbiab | 19:44 |
| chrisccoulson | heh, i just pushed the breakpad patch for our daily builds, and it's been pushed to mozilla-central now | 20:24 |
| * chrisccoulson backs it out again | 20:24 | |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: k, BTW, weave/sync is built against system nspr | 20:24 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: BTW, crashreporter failed on 3.6.x | 20:25 |
| micahg | dailies | 20:25 |
| chrisccoulson | oh, i will take a look at that then | 20:26 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: and I have the gnome-shell wrapper installing now, I just need to test it (not sure how until after I upgrade) | 20:29 |
| chrisccoulson | micahg - i suppose we can just add a version check and disable the crashreporter on the old releases | 20:29 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm not even submitting the symbols for the 3.6 dailies anyway | 20:29 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: k, but you are for the point releases | 20:29 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm only submitting 4.0 dailies for maverick, and 3.6 maverick release and lucid security | 20:29 |
| chrisccoulson | i'll ask ted if he's interested in 3.6 dailies | 20:30 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: k, can I make a beta 5 PPA then for Firefox 4.0 and you can push the symbols for that? | 20:30 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, can do | 20:30 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: beta 5 is scheduled for next monday, so I figure I'll push them all up that day, do you know if upstream uses official branding on the betas? | 20:31 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, i think they do | 20:32 |
| chrisccoulson | (they do on the windows build i tested anyway) | 20:32 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: oh, if I have time I'll rename to firefox-next, otherwise, I'll branch 4.0 to firefox-next.head so we have a PPA release branch | 20:32 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm not sure about the rename yet, as we need to work out how to do the profile migration | 20:33 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: why not the same way as before? | 20:33 |
| chrisccoulson | i think it gets more complicated when we don't use version numbers, so we need to figure that out | 20:33 |
| micahg | oh, we'd have to do firefox-trunk at the same time | 20:33 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: ah, the issue I can see if beta participation | 20:34 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, i think it gets more complicated to migrate users then | 20:34 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: I was thinking, maybe the profile and the binary link can be auto generated based on the first point version number (i,e 3.6, 4.0, 4.1) from debian/changelog | 20:35 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, possibly. i'll have a think about that | 20:36 |
| micahg | chrisccoulson: k, if you decide by the weekend, I'll prepare beta 5 :) | 20:36 |
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