[02:20] <ScottL> was someone looking for me about the -rt kernel?
[02:21] <nhandler> ScottL: 1283200465 15:34:25 < cjwatson> curious what they're going to do about the linux-headers-rt recommendation from ubuntustudio-desktop, given that linux-rt's been removed
[02:22] <ScottL> thanks nhandler
[02:52] <ScottL> cjwatson, hopefully tomorrow i'll take care of the linux-headers-rt recommendation in ubuntustudio-desktop
[03:04] <NCommander> cjwatson: that's fine, I fpassed out before I saw your message or I would have done it
[03:29] <slangasek> ^^ per mvo's request this morning; note that this bug only affects upgrades from systems that aren't up-to-date on lucid-updates, so may not be worth accepting before beta
[03:30] <persia> Depends on testing methodologies: lots of folks try to do the install/dist-upgrade trick on a VM, and may not remember to update first.
[07:45] <mvo> slangasek: \o/ for fixing the ifupdown #620956
[09:14] <Riddell> ev: the standalone installer seems to be working in Kubuntu but when clicking "Try Kubuntu" it goes to the slideshow rather than the live session
[09:14] <ara> morning all!
[09:15] <ara> when do we expect the first candidate images?
[09:15] <persia> cronjob was still enabled last I heard, so today's dailies should be candidates as they become available.
[09:16] <persia> I believe this will take at least two more hours, perhaps a bit more.
[09:16] <persia> Err, rather, I'm doing math wrong.  Should be any time now.
[09:29] <Riddell> ev: hum, the installer seems to freeze this VM
[09:35] <Riddell> ev: bug 625586 I guess
[09:35] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 625586 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ubiquity killed by OOM killer (affects: 2) (heat: 1154)" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/625586
[09:35] <Riddell> the install does complete fine for me if you ignore the UI freeze
[09:40] <ogra> hrm, lamont i cant reach sycamore or acorn through http, are they down ?
[09:40] <ogra> (builds failed as well it seems)
[09:53] <Riddell> bug 627284
[09:53] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 627284 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Try Kubuntu leads to slideshow not live CD (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/627284
[09:54] <ogra> lamont, hmm, in fact i cant reach *any* of the livefs builders
[09:54]  * ogra wonders whats going on here
[10:02] <ogra> sycamore.buildd starting at Tue Aug 31 10:02:07 BST 2010
[10:02] <ogra> ssh: connect to host sycamore.buildd port 22: No route to host
[10:02] <ogra> sycamore.buildd finished at Tue Aug 31 10:02:10 BST 2010 (failed)
[10:02] <ogra> geez
[10:02] <cjwatson> I can't reach acorn or sycamore either, but e.g. kapok is fine
[10:03] <ogra> are terranova and king still livefs builders ?
[10:03] <cjwatson> no
[10:03] <ogra> ah, k
[10:03] <cjwatson> cardamom weddell royal concordia all work fine.  clementine is reachable but doesn't have a ~buildd directory.
[10:03] <ogra> clementine is dead since maverick started
[10:03] <cjwatson> from which I infer that I forgot to update livefs-build-logs-mirror
[10:03] <ogra> acorn took over
[10:04] <ogra> and sycamore is a new one for omap4 builds only
[10:04] <cjwatson> well, that would be why you haven't been getting your logs on the web ;-)
[10:05] <cjwatson> I'd recommend asking #is about those hosts being down; lamont probably won't be around for a few hours yet
[10:05] <ogra> cjwatson, yeah, sorry, my fault i should have pinged you about it ... i personally look directly on the buildd nowadays so i forgot
[11:24]  * cjwatson wonders why the kubuntu daily has uninstallable packages
[11:25] <cjwatson> building updated kubuntu dvds since those wouldn't normally happen today
[11:32] <\sh> moins :) can some approve last zend-framework upload 1.10.8 (bug fix only upload -> bug #627319)
[11:32] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 627319 in zend-framework (Ubuntu) "zend-framework 1.10.8 (bugfix release) (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/627319
[11:44] <lamont> clementine is a recycled name (sorry) and not a livecd builder.  sycamore was down, is now back up <-- ogra, cjwatson
[11:44] <ogra> lamont, yeah, i'm alreday building on it again :)
[11:44] <Riddell> \sh: accepted
[11:45] <lamont> ogra: acorn was not on my list of hate as of last night, though.
[11:45] <ogra> it did build the dove and omap3 images but was dead when i tried to reach it today
[11:46] <lamont> must have gotten annoyed after I went offline
[11:46] <\sh> Riddell, thx...
[11:46] <ogra> heh, yeah, it needs its master :)
[11:47] <\sh> Riddell, when you are at it...could you review bug #627337 and think about it ?? :)
[11:47] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 627337 in ubuntu "[FFE] FAI 3.4 for Ubuntu Maverick (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/627337
[11:51] <cjwatson> acorn and sycamore build logs will now be mirrored
[11:51] <cjwatson> ogra: you want to kick rebuilds?
[11:52] <ogra> cjwatson, running since ~30min already
[11:52] <cjwatson> ok
[12:09] <Riddell> ogra: what ARM images are you expecting to build for beta?
[12:11]  * cjwatson starts sorting out the tracker
[12:13] <ara> cjwatson, thanks!
[12:13] <cjwatson> ubuntu alternates both oversized
[12:14] <cjwatson> hmm, why isn't "Maverick Beta" an option on http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/admin/addbuild ?
[12:15] <cjwatson> stgraber: ^- do you know?  I added it in http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/admin/milestone
[12:15] <ev> Riddell: I've committed a fix for bug 627284.  You're not in -installer, so I wasn't sure if you would notice.
[12:15] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 627284 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Try Kubuntu leads to slideshow not live CD (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/627284
[12:15] <cjwatson> ev: are there ubiquity fixes pending for beta?
[12:16] <ev> cjwatson: I was just going to ask.  What are my chances of getting a respin?
[12:16] <cjwatson> 'cos I was about to start posting desktops, once the tracker will let me
[12:16] <cjwatson> what's your timeframe?
[12:16] <ev> as yes, there are fixes I'd like to see in
[12:16] <cjwatson> can you upload right away?
[12:16] <ev> yes
[12:16] <cjwatson> please do then
[12:17] <ev> should I do the usual freeze exception dance, or are you happy to push it through?
[12:18] <cjwatson> please just upload it
[12:18] <cjwatson> I'll check it over in the queue
[12:18] <ev> will do, thanks
[12:18] <cjwatson> have we had a translations update recently?
[12:18] <cjwatson> ... apparently so
[12:27] <\sh> ScottK, thx
[12:28]  * cjwatson fixes Ubuntu alternate oversizedness
[12:28] <cjwatson> hm, there's been an issue updating the seed mirrors for the last week
[12:29] <cjwatson> actually it was probably ok, just slow
[12:31] <Riddell> thanks ev
[12:32] <ev> sure thing, sorry for the screw up there
[12:32] <ev> cjwatson: uploaded
[12:55] <cjwatson> ev: accepted (please push the debcommit -r bit to bzr?)
[12:56] <ev> cjwatson: done, thanks
[12:57] <Riddell> cjwatson: could you take a look at kdenetwork in unapproved?  it's needed to stop libavcodecs being pulled onto the CD
[12:58] <cjwatson> ok, is that what the uninstallables are about?
[12:58] <Riddell> cjwatson: yes
[12:59] <cjwatson> accepted
[13:00] <cjwatson> seb128: is there any of this gnome update that's beta-critical, as opposed to would-be-nice?
[13:00] <cjwatson> I wasn't available yesterday to review it and it doesn't look like others did, and I'd like to start building beta candidates v. soon
[13:01] <cjwatson> we have a slot for a small number of them if they're needed
[13:01] <seb128> cjwatson, hi
[13:01] <seb128> cjwatson, those are not beta stopper no
[13:02] <seb128> I pinged slangasek about the important ones yesterday
[13:02] <seb128> we might still want to get some unity changes in the next hour
[13:02] <cjwatson> ah, ok, so those went in?
[13:02] <seb128> do you think there is a margin to wait a bit for UNE?
[13:02] <seb128> cjwatson, yes
[13:02] <cjwatson> I can hold off on building netbook, yes
[13:02] <cjwatson> plenty of other stuff to do
[13:02] <seb128> would be nice, just for an hour
[13:02] <seb128> I want to sort the status with njpatel when he's online
[13:02] <cjwatson> I have to wait 1.5 hours or so for ubiquity and kdenetwork anyway
[13:03] <seb128> they are sprinting in canada this week
[13:03] <seb128> he should be there rsn
[13:03] <seb128> ok
[13:04] <cjwatson> I wonder if I can do anything about the powerpc desktop oversizedness
[13:04] <cjwatson> that's the only oversized thing left, I think
[13:04] <cjwatson> a
[13:05] <cjwatson> probably not a whole lot
[13:20] <persia> cjwatson, Given how long it's been since Windows worked on powerpc, the lupin and casper-lupin stuff could be dropped (although that might be deeper than you want to play today)
[13:25] <cjwatson> persia: thanks, done, though it won't make much difference
[13:26] <ogra> Riddell, ubuntu-netbook for omap3 and 4, kubuntu and kubuntu-mobile for omap3, no idea what NCommander's plans for dove are
[13:27] <NCommander> ogra: I'll attempt to test tomorrow, can't now
[13:27] <ogra> NCommander, what images do you plan to have rolled ofr beta was the question
[13:27] <ogra> *for
[13:28]  * persia doesn't see anything else obvious, seeing use cases for ntfs, and knowing the reasons libdrm-intel is there.
[13:28] <ogra> Riddell, nobody in the team will have time to test any of the kubuntu ones though, so testing these is up to the community
[14:25] <seb128> cjwatson, ok, do we still have a margin to have changes in before the end of the hour out of UNE or is late for that?
[14:25] <cjwatson> go ahead
[14:26] <seb128> cjwatson, the shotwell update has small changes and fix import issues and a crasher if you can review that, rather a would be nice to have
[14:27] <seb128> cjwatson, evo in the queue just fix some files installed at the wrong location, that should make the default signature work and have a menu entry in internet
[14:27] <seb128> cjwatson, I will upload rsn a telepathy-logger update with a recommends on libdconf0
[14:28] <seb128> seems we got bitten again by the "libglib2.0-0 recommends are not installed" I asked you about at the sprint
[14:28] <seb128> ie dconf doesn't get pulled on the iso which leads to have different programs falling back to use the default glib backend which has no storage
[14:29] <seb128> and I will have an unity update for UNE before end of the hour
[14:29] <seb128> I think that's it by checking with different desktop and dx people
[14:32] <ttx> ara, cjwatson: anything blocking using the current server ISO daily as the beta candidate ? Or are we waiting for something to show up to respin ?
[14:32] <ara> ttx, I don't know. I am waiting as well for images to appear in the tracker
[14:41] <cjwatson> ttx: I need help with the tracker, which is refusing to let me post images for Maverick Beta
[14:41] <cjwatson> 14:38 <agy> cjwatson: ara is probably the person to talk to about qatracker
[14:41] <cjwatson> ara: ^- can you help?
[14:42]  * ttx shakes its fist towards the tracker to see if it helps
[14:42] <ara> cjwatson, sure, what's  the issue?
[14:42] <cjwatson> 12:57 <cjwatson> Can somebody look at iso.qa.ubuntu.com for me?  I added a "Maverick Beta" milestone using http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/admin/milestone, but it's not showing up in the drop-down at the
[14:42] <cjwatson>                  bottom of http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/admin/addbuild
[14:42] <cjwatson> 12:57 <cjwatson> I'm wondering if it needs some kind of manual push
[14:42] <cjwatson> sigh, I wish seb128 had told me about those uploads when I asked earlier
[14:43] <ara> cjwatson, I'll have a look
[14:43] <cjwatson> I bet that'll mean another hour
[14:43] <ara> cjwatson, I see that milestone in the dropdown
[14:43] <ara> cjwatson, (the first of the list)
[14:44] <ara> cjwatson, the ordering of that list could be wiser, that's true
[14:44] <cjwatson> oh, sigh, ok
[14:44] <cjwatson> can you change the default?
[14:44] <cjwatson> which is currently Lucid 10.04.1
[14:45] <cjwatson> ttx: posted
[14:45] <ttx> cjwatson: thanks !
[14:47] <seb128> re, sorry system crash on user switching
[14:47] <ara> cjwatson, done
[14:47] <cjwatson> seb128: would have been nice to know earlier :-/, but shotwell and evolution accepted now
[14:47] <cjwatson> ara: thanks
[14:48] <cjwatson> might be 1530 UTC or so before I can start building candidates
[14:48] <seb128> cjwatson, sorry I was set on the "let them roll beta iso we can get those later", but somebody raised the dconf issue
[14:48] <seb128> cjwatson, so I figured we will need to get that anyway so...
[14:49] <cjwatson> how long will telepathy-logger be?
[14:49] <seb128> thanks
[14:49] <seb128> I'm uploading now
[14:49] <seb128> I was about when my box crashed
[15:00] <seb128> cjwatson, telepathy-logger shows up in the queue
[15:01] <cjwatson> accepted, thanks
[15:02] <seb128> thank you
[15:20] <Riddell> cjwatson: kdenetwork and ubiquity seem to be in, can I build kubuntu candidate CDs?
[15:20] <cjwatson> can I do it please
[15:20] <Riddell> sure
[15:22] <cjwatson> building
[15:22]  * cjwatson looks suspiciously at how all his jigdo attempts today yield checksum errors
[15:23] <cjwatson> wonder if there's a problem on my local mirror ...
[15:24]  * ttx expects a eucalyptus upload fixing a few beta-targeted bugs, that will generate a server ISO respin.
[15:37] <stgraber> cjwatson: is your issue fixed ?
[15:38] <cjwatson> stgraber: yes, thanks
[15:38] <cjwatson> seb128: is unity-asset-pool for beta, and is there anything else in that list?
[15:39] <seb128> cjwatson, yes and unity which is coming in 2 minutes
[15:39] <seb128> that's UNE only
[15:39] <seb128> and we should be done then
[15:39] <seb128> we are done for desktop already
[15:48] <ttx> hm, about server ISOs: looking at the potenial euca upload, there is nothing worth a respin there. So we won't respin over that one alone.
[16:49] <cjwatson> seb128: any news on unity?
[16:49] <seb128> cjwatson, hum, I uploaded an hour ago, let me see what happened
[16:50] <seb128> Rejected:
[16:50] <seb128> dpkg-source failed for unity_0.2.32-0ubuntu3.dsc [return: 29]
[16:50] <seb128> hum
[16:50] <seb128> cjwatson, can we change a source to format 3 in a new revision?
[16:51] <cjwatson> tar: data/trash.png: Cannot open: File exists
[16:51] <cjwatson> tar: data/files.png: Cannot open: File exists
[16:51] <cjwatson> tar: data/applications.png: Cannot open: File exists
[16:51] <cjwatson> yes
[16:51] <cjwatson> doesn't mean you can ship files in the .debian.tar.gz that exist in the .orig.tar.gz though
[16:51] <seb128> oh :-(
[16:52] <cjwatson> at least I don't think so
[16:52] <cjwatson> though actually that seems slightly odd
[16:52] <cjwatson> but can you stick them under debian/ instead as a workaround?
[16:52] <seb128> sure
[16:52] <seb128> weird that it works there
[16:53] <seb128> I can dpkg-source -x it
[16:53] <cjwatson> the dpkg-source -x failure is reproducible on cocoplum
[16:53] <cjwatson> dpkg-dev 1.15.5.6ubuntu1~1.IS.PATCHED.8.04
[16:54] <cjwatson> maybe it's a bug that was fixed since?
[16:54] <seb128> could be
[16:54] <seb128> in any case I'm going to fix that, sorry for the delay :-(
[16:55] <cjwatson> I don't see anything obvious in the dpkg changelog
[16:55] <cjwatson> maybe report a bug and attach the uploaded files
[16:55] <cjwatson> spinning other images in the meantime
[16:55] <seb128> ok, let me get a valid upload in first
[16:58] <ScottK> cjwatson: Where are we wrt spinning mythbuntu images?  The mythbuntu-common in the queue is desired, but not required for beta.
[16:59] <ScottK> I've reviewed it and it seems OK if it won't hurt ISO generation signfificantly.
[17:02] <cjwatson> $ echo ubuntu; for-project ubuntu cron.daily; buildlive ubuntu && for-project ubuntu cron.daily-live; echo xubuntu; for-project xubuntu cron.daily; buildlive xubuntu && for-project xubuntu cron.daily-live; echo ubuntustudio; for-project ubuntustudio cron.daily; echo mythbuntu; buildlive mythbuntu && for-project mythbuntu cron.daily-live
[17:02] <cjwatson> currently in Ubuntu daily-live
[17:02] <cjwatson> go ahead and accept it
[17:02] <cjwatson> may not quite make that build but we can respin quickly
[17:03] <ScottK> OK.  Thanks.
[17:04] <ScottK> Done.
[17:10] <ara> cjwatson, ubiquity is crashing for me on kubuntu
[17:10] <ara> bug 627489
[17:10] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 627489 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Ubiquity crashes in Kubuntu (Maverick Beta candidate) (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/627489
[17:11] <cjwatson> ev: ^-
[17:12] <ev> looking
[17:17] <ev> ugh, fixing
[17:23] <GrueMaster> I also saw this yesterday on the http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/ports/daily-preinstalled/20100830/maverick-preinstalled-desktop-armel+omap.img.gz image.
[17:23] <GrueMaster> Hadn't had time to look at it though.
[17:31] <seb128> cjwatson, unity uploaded again let's see how it goes this time
[17:32] <seb128> cjwatson, it's in the queue
[17:35] <cjwatson> damnit, desktops oversized again
[17:35] <cjwatson> quite dramatically - I wonder what happened
[17:38] <cjwatson> unity accepted
[17:40] <seb128> thanks
[17:42] <GrueMaster> ev: I'm not sure if I have the same kubuntu installer issue or not.  Could you quickly scan my logs at http://members.dsl-only.net/~tdavis/oem-config-crash.tgz?  This is on omap (armel) platform.
[17:42] <GrueMaster> If it isn't the same, I'll look into it more and file a bug asap.
[17:43] <cjwatson> oh, argh, oversized because we've just picked up the last week's worth of seed changes in one go
[17:43]  * cjwatson cries a little bit inside
[17:48] <cjwatson> and since the necessary change is in the live task, we'll need the usual publisher runs to fix it.  I'll try to speed it up a bit
[17:51] <cjwatson> (running 'LPCONFIG=ftpmaster-publish /srv/launchpad.net/codelines/current/cronscripts/publishing/cron.germinate' by hand as lp_publish@cocoplum, since we're at the right time for that to be a useful speedup)
[18:12] <cjwatson> BTW, Ubuntu alternate and Xubuntu alternate posted
[18:12] <charlie-tca> Thanks
[18:22] <charlie-tca> umm, those images don't exist for xubuntu alternate on http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/daily
[18:26] <charlie-tca> well, got them now
[18:26] <cjwatson> wait, it's just slow
[18:27] <charlie-tca> Thanks
[18:28]  * charlie-tca is in a hurry. It could a long time to sync them on his s-l-o-w connection now
[18:28] <cjwatson> xubuntu desktop posted
[18:28] <charlie-tca> Thanks
[18:28] <cjwatson> hey, I've been downloading a single poxy cd for a couple of hours
[18:30] <slangasek> maybe a non-poxy one would download faster
[18:30] <charlie-tca> oh! Maybe mine is just as good, then :-)
[18:30] <cjwatson> slangasek: if poxy == large :-)
[18:31] <slangasek> I dunno, maybe the pox causes packet fragmentation?
[18:31]  * cjwatson applies antibiotics to his ethernet port
[18:32] <cjwatson> ubuntustudio alternate posted
[18:33] <cjwatson> ev: any ETA on a ubiquity fix for Kubuntu?
[18:35] <Riddell> ev: my first test gave me the OOM issue again on Kubuntu
[18:35] <Riddell> testing again with a console running to get more info
[18:35] <ev> cjwatson: soonish.  I'm assuming we're only respinning for KDE, right?
[18:35] <ev> Riddell: ouch.
[18:36] <cjwatson> ev: I think so
[18:36] <cjwatson> (for the time being)
[18:36] <cjwatson> well, Ubuntu desktop does need a respin anyway, but I wasn't planning to wait for ubiquity
[18:37] <ev> can you?  Looking at the code, it will break in the GTK frontend if you enter a username with ^[0-9A-Za-z] in it.  I'd like to just ressurect the hostname box, reusing the old code making a minor change to make it fit the current flow.
[18:37] <Riddell> ev: yes lots of plugininstall.py instances running
[18:37] <ev> Riddell: ughhhhh
[18:38] <ev> Riddell: logs please
[18:38]  * cjwatson has a horrible thought
[18:38] <cjwatson> forgot to update OFFICIAL to say "Beta"
[18:38] <cjwatson> you can tell I haven't done this for a while
[18:40] <slangasek> at least that doesn't require respinning any livefses
[18:40] <cjwatson> done, but all images built until now will say "Alpha" instead.  I don't plan to respin just for this unless somebody tells me I have to
[18:40] <slangasek> I guess the noise it will cause with users is going to be fairly minimal
[18:40] <Riddell> ev: http://muse.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/syslog  http://muse.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/debug
[18:41] <cjwatson> I dunno, feel free to suggest I'm wrong, I know we've done differently in the past (but we had fewer images then)
[18:41]  * Riddell out for an hour
[18:42] <cjwatson> Ubuntu and Kubuntu desktops need to be respun anyway, and those are the highest-profile ones aside from perhaps Ubuntu server
[18:43] <charlie-tca> We can release note xubuntu, if no other respin is needed
[18:49] <slangasek> cjwatson: I don't feel strongly about it, particularly as none of the noise is going to be directed at me... :)
[18:49] <cjwatson> heh
[18:49] <cjwatson> wanna bet
[18:49] <slangasek> hah :)
[18:49] <cjwatson> respinning Ubuntu desktop
[18:50] <slangasek> TBH I've always found it a little bit bothersome that, in preparation of the milestone, we prepare a series of *candidate* images that all get labeled "Beta" or "RC"
[18:50] <cjwatson> also have commented out the crontab now that the day's normal ports builds have finished
[18:50] <cjwatson> well, yeah, have always agreed but never saw an alternative
[18:50] <slangasek> smarter on-the-fly ISO editing :-)
[18:50] <cjwatson> short of sedding the ISO which gives me the shivers
[18:50] <slangasek> I said smarter
[18:50] <slangasek> ;)
[18:50] <cjwatson> that was a metasyntactic sed :)
[18:51] <cjwatson> given that there's code that parses .disk/info ...
[19:11]  * cjwatson confirms that the mythbuntu desktop images have current mythbuntu-common, and posts
[19:20] <cjwatson> slangasek: do we customarily post the upgrade tests around this time?
[19:20] <slangasek> cjwatson: yes
[19:20] <cjwatson> what build id do you use?  just the current date?
[19:21] <cjwatson> ev: sorry, I didn't notice your comment above.  I can respin Ubuntu desktop again
[19:21] <ev> cjwatson: okay
[19:22] <ev> I've committed the hostname fix, just testing now
[19:22] <ev> then I'll try to reproduce Riddell's scary bug
[19:22] <ev> err and upload ubiquity, of course
[19:26] <slangasek> cjwatson: current date, yes
[19:31] <GrueMaster> Is there a respin planned for Ubuntu-Netbook on Arm?  If not, can we get them enabled in iso.qa.ubuntu.com?
[19:31] <cjwatson> respin planned
[19:31] <cjwatson> I'm just waiting for unity to publish
[19:31] <GrueMaster> ok.
[19:32] <cjwatson> I think just about all the candidates are up now except arm and DVDs, and of course the Ubuntu and Kubuntu desktop respins
[19:32] <cjwatson> (for ubiquity)
[19:33] <GrueMaster> Since there is a respin planned, is there a chance someone can tweak livecd to run /usr/lib/gdm/gdm-set-default-session une-efl prior to building squashfs for armel+dove?  Otherwise there is no way to boot past X.
[19:33] <cjwatson> I had a respin planned but in like ten minutes
[19:33] <cjwatson> I'm not sure how quick I can get a livecd-rootfs change in
[19:34] <cjwatson> can you propose a branch of livecd-rootfs for merging anyway, though?
[19:34] <cjwatson> is this beta-critical?  should I be building DVDs first, and waiting for this?
[19:34] <GrueMaster> I wouldn't know where to start.  NCommander is planning on doing it, but he's in China on assignment.
[19:35] <GrueMaster> This only affects armel+dove.
[19:35] <GrueMaster> No other platforms would be affected.
[19:35] <cjwatson> I mean, I can do it, but I'll probably get it slightly wrong
[19:35] <GrueMaster> (or should).
[19:36] <GrueMaster> ok.  Not sure how best to proceed then.
[19:36] <cjwatson> something like http://paste.ubuntu.com/486429/?
[19:36]  * GrueMaster hates being the only teammate on arm in the PST timezone.
[19:37] <cjwatson> er, except with chroot $ROOT
[19:37] <cjwatson> does gdm-set-default-session need $DISPLAY?
[19:38] <GrueMaster> No display needed.  Here's what we currently have in jasper for omap images.  It is run on first boot.
[19:38] <GrueMaster> if [ -e /root/usr/share/xsessions/une-efl.desktop ] && [ -e /root/usr/lib/gdm/gdm-set-default-session ];then
[19:38] <GrueMaster>     chroot /root /usr/lib/gdm/gdm-set-default-session une-efl >>$LOGFILE 2>&1 || true
[19:38] <GrueMaster> fi
[19:39] <NCommander> GrueMaster: cjwatson: I'd be glad to do it, but I'm not quite awake enough to trust myself with an editor, and my Dove board is locked at Marvell :-/
[19:40] <cjwatson> NCommander: does http://paste.ubuntu.com/486431/ seem plausible?
[19:42]  * GrueMaster likes line 14 of the patch.  :D
[19:42] <GrueMaster> The rest looks plausible to me, but I'm not familiar with the base code.
[19:45] <cjwatson> committed
[19:45] <cjwatson> lamont: do the buildds pull from bzr at the moment, or do I need to upload this livecd-rootfs change?
[19:46] <lamont> cjwatson: they dist-upgrade ... livecd-rootfs is the then-current-for-the-distroarchseries each build
[19:47] <cjwatson> ok, so the only delay is publication
[19:47] <lamont> except that BuildLiveCD.sh is a manual migration from inside the chroot to outside, and should be done via RT
[19:47] <cjwatson> that's not needed here
[19:48] <cjwatson> UNE i386 building
[19:56] <cjwatson> could somebody review livecd-rootfs 1.150 in the queue?  (there's also a 1.149 from earlier)
[19:58] <cjwatson> I guess I'll build some DVDs after UNE i386
[19:58] <cjwatson> oh, hell, will need to wait for ubiquity for that anyway, and respin UNE for it
[19:58] <cjwatson> ev: now blocked
[19:59] <ev> cjwatson: already uploaded
[19:59] <ev> haven't got the mail yet though
[19:59] <cjwatson> ah
[19:59] <cjwatson> should arrive in a minute or so
[20:01] <cjwatson> ev: po/Makefile.in seems to keep flipping back and forward between in the package and not in the package
[20:01] <cjwatson> might benefit from a better clean rule or something
[20:01] <ev> indeed, will do
[20:02] <cjwatson> accepted though
[20:12] <cjwatson> really must make publish-queue faster, by caching or something
[20:15] <NCommander> cjwatson: that looks sane, but probably needs a smoke test
[20:16]  * NCommander was going to implement it as a command line switch ...
[20:18] <cjwatson> I figure it should behave as we want it to behave by default
[20:19] <NCommander> cjwatson: well, if we ever get 3D, although it won't exist until natty at the earlist
[20:20] <cjwatson> guess we can worry about it then
[20:21] <NCommander> cjwatson: indeed. Thanks
[20:29] <cjwatson> dinnertime; will likely be at least an hour until more spins are usefully possible
[20:51] <kees> cjwatson: hi! do you have any plans to respin ISOs in the next day? I'm trying to coordinate a security publication. it's currently embargoed, but if you're going to respin, I'd like to get it out asap, otherwise I can wait until maverick is unfrozen.
[21:24] <cjwatson> kees: planning to respin Ubuntu and Kubuntu desktops shortly, plus all arm and DVDs
[21:25] <kees> cjwatson: define "shortly" ?
[21:25] <kees> I suspect I should just probably wait until beta unfreezes. :)
[21:25] <cjwatson> I thought it would be 10 minutes, but ubiquity needs another hotfix, so a couple of hours
[21:26] <cjwatson> msg me the details?
[21:28] <kees> sent
[21:37] <slangasek> cjwatson: do you want to hand off any of this to me so you can have an evening?
[21:44] <cjwatson> not sure yet, K is tired and might go to bed early
[21:53] <cjwatson> I think I'll want to hand some of it off, just not sure what yet
[21:54] <slangasek> ack
[21:59]  * slangasek wonders who's still passing around bad recommendations about installing the 'grub' package
[22:00] <cjwatson> the grub/Windows issues I blogged about recently are another source of this
[22:00] <cjwatson> grub legacy's stage 1.5 is smaller and so less likely to suffer from it, though it does still happen
[22:01] <cjwatson> (in fact I was thinking of backporting the workaround to legacy once I have it safely sorted out in 2)
[22:03] <slangasek> ah
[22:03] <slangasek> well whoever is telling people to install grub should tell them how to bloody configure it
[22:03] <slangasek> instead of just telling them to install the package, which doesn't help anything
[23:04] <cjwatson> I've added caching to publish-queue, so it's now MUCH quicker to run
[23:05] <cjwatson> as in seconds rather than approaching ten minutes
[23:10] <ScottK> Nice
[23:12] <ScottK> cjwatson: Do you still want the livecd-rootfs changes in?
[23:15] <cjwatson> yes please
[23:16] <ScottK> cjwatson: Done
[23:18] <cjwatson> thanks
[23:21] <cjwatson> server installations are failing to boot after installation (reported by marjo); investigating
[23:40] <marjo> thx cjwatson
[23:44] <cjwatson> I wonder if your netbook is PAE-capable
[23:44] <cjwatson> I see it in kvm, but kvm has given me grief with PAE in the past