[00:04] <pepperjack> soo now that gdmsetup is no more what is the 'standard' way of switching gdm themes?  do people just use cli?
[00:05] <pepperjack> im looking around in settings and dont see anything
[01:03] <owner> Hello, Anyone here that can help me with my speaker / sound issues?
[01:33] <cmecca> hey all -- is there a way to see the xubuntu boot screen when booting from the desktop cd?
[01:33] <cmecca> instead of just the xubuntu logo
[01:33] <cmecca> its sitting there forever.. and i wanna see where/how its failing
[01:40] <owner> @cmecca, if you press the ESC key on your keyboard, that showed me some scripts that it was running
[01:42] <cmecca> im running 'test memory' right now... ive been having the worst time getting linux on this box
[01:42] <cmecca> (tried xub alt, xub desk, debian netinst)
[01:43] <cmecca> all failures.
[01:45] <cmecca> there is no console i can alt+ to
[01:45] <cmecca> to see it boot?
[01:47] <knome> ctrl+alt+f1
[01:48] <cmecca> wow its like... totally messed up
[01:48] <cmecca> im gonna try burning the cd... for the 10th time
[01:48] <cmecca> (yes this is a differant download
[01:48]  * Dekkard thankx the xubuntu devs.... 
[01:48] <knome> if you think the cd is false, try burning with the lowest speed
[01:48] <knome> Dekkard, you are very welcome
[01:49] <Dekkard> :)))) slimmest ram footprint ever!!!136 meg...
[01:49] <cmecca> 10k squashFS errors flooding my screen
[01:54] <knome> that tells alot, right?
[01:55] <cmecca> wow no matter what machine i burn the CD's from.. my macbook pro says medium write error
[01:55] <cmecca> my windows laptop says OK.. the osx burns wont even boot.. the windows burns will boot but never get to the installer
[01:56] <cmecca> anyway thanks guys ill try and figure something out
[01:56] <Dekkard> gonna get ready for bed...
[04:23] <rhyfelwr> Good afternoon.
[04:26] <rhyfelwr> xubuntu is listed on xbox-linux.org as a distro that supports xbox.. Is it still supported?
[04:37] <pleia2> rhyfelwr: wrong xubuntu
[04:38] <pleia2> you're thinking of xUbuntu, not Xubuntu
[04:38] <pleia2> (quite unfortunate that they decided to give the xbox project pretty much the same name)
[04:38] <rhyfelwr> Alright..
[04:39] <rhyfelwr> But I got the irc room name from a site linked from the xbox linux wiki
[04:39] <rhyfelwr> I guess they have the link wrong.
[06:23] <iamm> hi everyone, i'm trying to open a port for deluge, i've already set it up on the router to portforward but i still get the port closed when i check
[08:24]  * dreamtraveler mera
[22:02] <goundy> Hi guys
[22:03] <goundy> alsamixer uses the correct sound card, but xfce4-mixer uses Dummy
[22:03] <goundy> It was working before, how could I solve that?
[22:03] <goundy> thanks :)
[22:10] <goundy> no hints ?
[22:53] <sam898889> hi guys~ thinking of trying out Xubuntu ~ can anyone tell me what are the biggest differences? is it better than gnome env? thanks.
[22:53] <charlie-tca> Xubuntu uses Xfce instead of Gnome
[22:53] <charlie-tca> There are more options for the user to set up than in Ubuntu
[22:54] <charlie-tca> for some it works much better than Gnome
[22:54] <sam898889> oh really/
[22:54] <charlie-tca> Is it better; you ask that in #xubuntu? Yes, it is far better!
[22:55] <sam898889> im using gnome now can i just install the xde interface without reinstalling the whole OS
[22:55] <charlie-tca> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[22:55] <knome> sam898889, xfce, not xde :)
[22:55] <sam898889> oops
[22:56] <sam898889> haha sorry my mums talking to me and im not thinking clearly.
[22:56] <charlie-tca> good catch, knome
[22:56] <sam898889> haha  xfce is what i want
[22:56] <sam898889> how big is the package BTW?
[22:56] <charlie-tca> it will install many packages.
[22:56] <charlie-tca> the amount it will install will depend on what is already installed
[22:57] <sam898889> ok
[22:57] <sam898889> but i can go and uninstall it all again right?
[22:57] <charlie-tca> not as easily
[22:57] <charlie-tca> !pure-gnome
[22:57] <charlie-tca> !puregnome
[22:57] <knome> sam898889, if you install from terminal, you will be told it uses X megs more, and you are prompted; do you want to install [y/n]
[22:57] <sam898889> ok ..
[22:58] <sam898889> let me give it a go then !
[22:58] <sam898889> 332
[22:58] <sam898889> MB
[22:58] <sam898889> hehe
[22:59] <sam898889> it looks nicer than gnome to be honest.
[22:59] <sam898889> :D
[23:01] <charlie-tca> of course it does. We have knome help us out with art
[23:01] <charlie-tca> Thanks, knome
[23:01]  * knome whistles and sips some of his drink
[23:01] <knome> charlie-tca, you're welcome. also thank ochosi, he's been building the new theme with me
[23:01] <charlie-tca> Thanks, ochosi
[23:02] <sam898889> knome?
[23:02] <sam898889>  u do the art work?
[23:02] <knome> sam898889? mum?
[23:02] <knome> yes, i do.
[23:02] <sam898889> well then hugs to u myfriend.
[23:02] <charlie-tca> sam898889: We have to give knome the credit for "looks nicer than gnome". He does seem to work magic sometimes
[23:02] <sam898889> he does
[23:02] <sam898889> i think it looks really nice.
[23:02] <sam898889> so hugs to him.  (or her)
[23:03] <knome> thanks for the compliments
[23:03] <knome> him, at least the last time i checked
[23:03] <sam898889> not compliments knome   its better than that
[23:03] <sam898889> it does look good ~ XXX
[23:03] <knome> well, thanks
[23:03] <sam898889> knome where u at?
[23:03] <knome> helsinki, capital of finland
[23:04] <sam898889> i know helsinki.
[23:04] <joshritger> what startup items can I safely disable to reduce memory usage?
[23:04] <sam898889> < im in cardiff knome.  u been here before?
[23:04] <knome> joshritger, if you don't use printers, at least cups would be a good thing to remove
[23:04] <knome> sam898889, no, not really. only in london of uk places.
[23:05] <sam898889> knome. hehe your welcome to come here anytime ~~
[23:05] <joshritger> knome: should I uninstall it, or just disable it somehow?
[23:05] <sam898889> ok im gonna log into xubuntu now guys !!
[23:05] <knome> joshritger, disabling should work.
[23:06] <joshritger> knome: do I need pulseaudio enabled?
[23:07] <knome> joshritger, well, kind of yes - you need alsa if you don't have pulseaudio. i don't know of any memory benchmarks for those, though.
[23:07] <joshritger> ok
[23:08] <joshritger> knome: any idea what the "Secret Storage Service" is?
[23:09] <knome> joshritger, um, no. i think it might be something about encrypted drives, but i'm not sure
[23:09] <knome> joshritger, ah, just read the description. it's the gnome keyring used to save passwords
[23:11] <joshritger> knome: then what is "Certificate and Key Storage"
[23:11] <knome> it's also gnome keyring stuff
[23:11] <joshritger> ok, I may disable and see what happens, I can always re-activate it
[23:11] <sam898889> back !!!
[23:12] <sam898889> in xubuntu now ~
[23:12] <sam898889> :D
[23:12] <charlie-tca> And it looks good!
[23:12] <knome> congratulations
[23:12] <sam898889> actually  it looks very similar to ubuntu gnome.  hahaha
[23:12] <sam898889> and everything works
[23:13] <knome> except in blue tones, i assume
[23:13] <sam898889> can u guys do something for me ?  if you would be so kind?
[23:13] <sam898889> yeah  its all blue and i love it
[23:13] <sam898889> :D
[23:13] <knome> !ask | sam898889
[23:13] <sam898889> can u all send me your screen shots so i can see what i can do with xubuntu....
[23:13] <sam898889> never really used it  (or KDE)  and wanna see how far i can go with it
[23:14] <knome> sam898889, what would you like to do then?
[23:14] <charlie-tca> can't get it all in
[23:14] <sam898889> dunno knome.  wanna see whats possible :D
[23:14] <sam898889> hehe
[23:15] <knome> sam898889, you're on lucid (10.04), right?
[23:15] <charlie-tca> xchat with 17 channels open, firefox with 40 something tabs open, claws-mail with 10000+ messages, liferea with 20 something accounts, vbox running maverick beta tests, 2 machines at a time
[23:16] <charlie-tca> and I run the default theme in maverick
[23:16] <knome> charlie-tca, my friend once said he drowns in tabs when he's working. i asked how many did he have. he said about 400-600.
[23:17] <knome> default theme in maverick == http://shimmerproject.org/files/2010/08/Bluebird-0.2.0.png
[23:17] <sam898889> knome yeah  10.04
[23:17] <charlie-tca> hmm, I don't why you would want to do that to yourself, but maybe it is needed by him.
[23:17] <knome> charlie-tca, yep, definitely. i can only think of how slow his machine is...
[23:19] <charlie-tca> Just to show off my clock - http://imagebin.org/112212
[23:26] <ridin> i misread clock
[23:27] <charlie-tca> lol
[23:28] <knome> ahem
[23:28] <charlie-tca> family channel?
[23:29] <knome> that
[23:29]  * charlie-tca thinks "clock" is clean, but the minds here might be questionable
[23:44] <ridin> my mind is questionable
[23:44] <ridin> chicken.
[23:50] <knome> ridin, for recipes and discussion about cooking, please refer to ##kitchen
[23:51] <ridin> aw, you don't get it :(
[23:51] <knome> no, you did not get the irony there
[23:51] <ridin> oh.
[23:53] <xubuntu641> heyyy
[23:53] <knome> ridin, anyway, let's try to keep the channel family friendly, right?
[23:53] <knome> xubuntu641, hello
[23:53] <ridin> mkay.