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[00:13] hrmm, in maverick I can't set chrome as my default browser via chrome like i was able to do before...any ideas would be helpful as i dig for a solution [00:16] no idea, if I try to set Chrome as default in System Settings, it does nothing like I would do it via Chrome [00:54] with maverick in freeze is 4.5.1 will be included in B1? [01:00] lucio: nope, won't make it for B1 [02:26] nixternal: I've seen the same problem. [02:29] apachelogger: FYI, you could go ahead and upload 4.5.1, it just won't get accepted until after the beta freeze is over. [02:39] wheee! maverick feels much snappier than lucid w/4.5 wow wow [05:50] Updated Kubuntu images needing testing: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/ [05:50] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily/current/ [05:51] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/dvd/current/ [05:51] http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/kubuntu/all === _LibertyZero is now known as LibertyZero [09:01] * Mamarok hugs apachelogger for having tried that KDE ONE client [09:03] * markey hugs too, for good measure [09:03] mh, the choqok version in karmic stopped working with twitter, since they made oauth mandatory [09:04] yep, I can confirm [09:10] errm, lucid i meant [09:10] yeah [09:10] it's know, though [09:10] known even [09:10] karmic and below is affected too of course ;) [09:16] apachelogger: you need to update /topic [09:16] there is birthday today :D [09:17] nigelb: who? [09:18] * Mamarok checks her Facebook [09:19] oh, Maco has her birthday today! [09:19] maco: Happy Birthday! [09:19] * Mamarok hugs maco [09:23] Mamarok: ah, I was away for a minute [09:23] Looks like you figured it out :) [09:24] maco: happy birthday! [09:25] Riddell: hi, any news on my amarok mpris update? [09:58] ah, building maverick's choqok and qoauth in karmic works just fine [09:59] meh, s/karmic/lucid/ [10:07] nigelb: we have an open topic policy here ;) [10:07] meaning everyone can change it ;) [10:12] apachelogger: ah === apachelogger changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: KDE 4.5.1 packaging http://xn--bdk.tv/4a | Beta candidates need testing http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/kubuntu/all | Maverick Beta Freeze is on - Universe still open for business | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | Milestoned bugs tagged Kubuntu http://tinyurl.com/33p7vu3 === apachelogger changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: KDE 4.5.1 packaging http://ツ.tv/4a | Beta candidates need testing http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/kubuntu/all | Maverick Beta Freeze is on - Universe still open for business | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | Milestoned bugs tagged Kubuntu http://tinyurl.com/33p7vu3 [10:13] * apachelogger giggles [10:13] * apachelogger hugs Mamarok and markey === apachelogger changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: KDE 4.5.1 packaging http://ツ.tv/4a | Beta candidates need testing http://ツ.tv/4b | Maverick Beta Freeze is on - Universe still open for business | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | Milestoned bugs tagged Kubuntu http://tinyurl.com/33p7vu3 === apachelogger changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: KDE 4.5.1 packaging http://ツ.tv/4a | Beta candidates need testing http://ツ.tv/4b | Maverick Beta Freeze is on - Universe still open for business | Todo: http://ツ.tv/4c | Milestoned bugs tagged Kubuntu http://tinyurl.com/33p7vu3 === apachelogger changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Happy birthday maco \o/ | KDE 4.5.1 packaging http://ツ.tv/4a | Beta candidates need testing http://ツ.tv/4b | Maverick Beta Freeze is on - Universe still open for business | Todo: http://ツ.tv/4c | Milestoned bugs tagged Kubuntu http://tinyurl.com/33p7vu3 [10:16] * Trouble unplugs apachelogger's keyboard :D [10:16] * apachelogger hugs maco and wishes her a happy and awesome birthday [10:28] hm [10:28] is it just me or is rekonq forgetting cookies? [10:41] agateau: updated patch is in https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amarok/2:2.3.1-1ubuntu7 [10:42] Riddell: great, thanks! [11:03] al: http://digitizor.com/2010/08/31/install-choqok-1-0-beta-2-from-ppa-kubuntu-10-04-10-10/ [11:03] check this [11:03] fixes the OAuth issues [11:06] hmm, we should get choqok backported [11:06] yep [11:07] shadeslayer: fancy investigating that ^^ ? [11:14] !find kvm-img [11:14] File kvm-img found in qemu-kvm [11:16] Riddell: http://aplg.kollide.net/images/avatar/snapshot5.png is that meant to happen with a kubuntu image? [11:20] doesnt even start -.- [11:21] is bug 613636 [11:21] Launchpad bug 613636 in plymouth (Ubuntu) "Kubuntu Maveric ISOs show purple "Ubuntu 10.10" boot splash instead of the blue Kubuntu one." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/613636 [11:21] not starting is a larger bug [11:21] well it could be testdrive's fault [11:22] it did not get is own dependencies right, that is always a bad sign [11:22] *its [11:24] mhhh, getting pulseaudio errors from qemu [11:26] Riddell: never mind that, it seems testdrive had stupid audio default setting that blocked qemu [11:26] tsk [11:42] hm [11:45] Riddell: say I have a file Foo.py and that contains a class Foo, how do I import Foo.py not as module (i.e. so I can call the class Foo directly without Foo. prefix) [11:45] from Foo import Foo no? [11:46] oh that works [11:46] Riddell: still a bit strange though ^^ [11:46] thanks [11:54] somehow login with qemu fails -.- [11:55] * apachelogger tries vbox [11:56] ahahahah [11:56] Icon=/usr/share/testdrivegtk/media/testdrive.png [11:56] I love desktop files like that [11:57] apachelogger what's thestdrive? :D [11:57] testdrive* [11:57] a reason to not follow best practise obviously [11:58] sheytan: it is supposed to help one test *buntu ISO images in that it rsyncs them and then launches a virtual machine [11:58] apachelogger, oh, ok ;) [11:59] Riddell: is it me or is login broken (inside a vm?) [11:59] qemu failed, vbox gets sensible colors but also fails... [12:00] apachelogger: from a live image? [12:00] yes [12:00] should boot up into ubiquity which lets you run 'Try Kubuntu' [12:01] yes, but then login does not work [12:01] splash comes up goes a couple of steps, then falls back to kdm [12:01] which sounds pretty much like X is crashin [12:01] works for me, check your Xsession logs I guess [12:04] ddxsiggiveup [12:22] Riddell: hmm sure as soon as im done with PIM [12:22] neversfelde: pong [12:27] shadeslayer: how did the exam go? [12:27] s/exam/exams [12:28] well.. [12:28] nigelb: 15-20/100 in the first one, 2nd one went better .. like 70-80 :P [12:29] shadeslayer: lol [12:29] i stuided for ~1 hour for both [12:29] maco: happy birthday :D [12:29] but we shall get grace marks [12:29] shadeslayer: be careful with that stuff when you say it in a logged channel :D [12:29] maco: happy birthday !! :D [12:30] nigelb: dude half the stuff was out of syllabus :P [12:30] Never know if your future employer is going to google you :D [12:30] and our teacher broke his leg [12:30] so we had no teacher for 2 weeks, and its only been 3 weeks into college [12:30] nigelb: id rather be self employed :P [12:31] than work under someone who "googles" me ^_^ [12:31] Riddell: choqok to go into lucid backports? [12:32] shadeslayer: hahaha [12:32] shadeslayer: Since it's totally broken, it should be fixed in an SRU [12:32] ScottK: oic :) [12:32] ScottK: twitter OAuth thing? [12:32] Yep [12:32] ScottK: OAuth needs backporting as well then [12:33] ill do that too :P [12:33] shadeslayer: Nope. It all needs to be done as an SRU (not backports) [12:33] yes thats what i meant... [12:33] backport to SRU [12:34] take mav package -> package for lucid -> ask for SRU [12:34] um, no [12:35] I think its take the patch that fixes and bug and request for sru, but I may be wrong [12:36] nigelb: Generally that's the case. [12:36] nigelb: whole new release :P [12:36] Sometimes exceptions get made and entire releases are done, but I'm not on the SRU team, so can't say if this is one of them. [12:37] ScottK: but since its entirely broken right now, it might be warranted, unless we have a clean patch [12:37] well [12:37] a) it is not broken for identica from what I understand [12:37] Agreed, but I'm not the one to decide. [12:37] b) there is still the twitter plasmoid [12:37] apachelogger: true, just twitter [12:37] c) choqok is not released as stable [12:38] nigelb: some of my friends call it tweeter :P [12:38] apachelogger: A whole bag of worms isn't it? [12:38] so IMHO the educated decision would be to get it into backports and once stable try SRU [12:38] apachelogger: We aren't supposed to use backports to fix SRU worthy problems. [12:39] ScottK: we are not fixing it we are patching it until a fix is available [12:39] also mind that libqoauth was not available in lucid [12:39] lol @ topic links [12:39] The usual result in such cases is then the fix is never available. [12:39] so apt-get update and kpk will not want to upgrade choqok with a new dep I suppsoe [12:40] We can get new packages into -proposed/updates if needed. [12:40] apachelogger: afaik choqok now deps on qoauth, so that should not be a problem [12:41] that does not change the fact that libqoauth is not available on any stock lucid system and if choqok was installed it will not be upgraded unless the user opts towards installing the new lib [12:41] quite frankly I think discussion here is rather pointless anyway ... propose the options to upstream, let upstream pick the one they want and then implement that one [12:42] ill be doing a SRU for qoauth as well [12:43] hmm [12:43] Choqok 1.0 Beta2 is very laggy here [12:43] interface is like molasses [12:43] hahaha :P [12:43] maybe check that before putting in backports [12:43] apachelogger: The same is required to upgrade kernels when the abi is bumped, so it should be ~fine. [12:44] * markey reads backlog :) [12:44] apachelogger: Upstream will want the latest version in all releases back to dapper. No need to bother asking what they'd want. [12:44] markey: its slow when fetching updates, works fine after the initial 2 mins of fetching backlog [12:44] oi [12:44] new choqok release [12:44] is it? been running for a while now [12:45] works for me :D [12:45] ubuntu one kde on the other had does not [12:45] apachelogger: *hint* *hint* [12:45] huh? [12:45] yeah [12:45] let the ship sink [12:46] * apachelogger does not give a foobar [12:46] apachelogger: if you ship ubuntuone-kde ill cry [12:46] we wont [12:46] seeing as it is broken [12:46] good [12:46] can you change the icon here : https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/choqok : to the new one? [12:47] ( the new ones green :P ) [12:47] ok im updating choqok then [12:48] shadeslayer: the logo has to be updated here https://edge.launchpad.net/choqok [12:48] sheytan: mtux can [12:48] nigelb: seeing that apachelogger registered it i asked him to do it [12:48] apachelogger: dude the project is registered by you :P [12:48] seeing that I transfered maintainership to mtux I do not ahve no control whatsoever [12:48] shadeslayer: no, I mean it has to be done at the upstream project [12:49] I'm pretty sure Mehrdad Momeny isn't apachelogger ;) [12:49] gah, it is registered by him [12:49] I should wear my glasses [12:50] apachelogger: oic :) [12:50] * apachelogger is wondering where he put the u1kde graphc [12:52] choqok beta 3 building [12:52] oh [12:53] OH!!! [12:53] this will require FFe :S [12:53] right? [12:53] for maverick? [12:53] of course [12:54] AAAAHAA [12:54] rekonq's urlbar drives me nuts [12:57] nigelb: airtel-- :/ [12:57] nigelb: also check out http://www.fakingnews.com/2010/09/with-just-over-a-month-to-go-terrorists-pull-out-of-cwg/ [12:57] shadeslayer: airtel rocks for me (so far) [12:58] nigelb: it rained so heavily here that my connection dropped to 15 KBps :P [12:58] its 70KBps otherwise [12:58] eh, there's Choqok Beta 3 now :) [12:58] either that or the indian mirror is SLOOOOOWWWW [12:59] * markey just upgraded to Beta 2 [12:59] markey: yeah its building :P [12:59] ( on my machine that is ) [12:59] shadeslayer: I never use Indian Mirror [12:59] There is an option to ping and find best mirror. Use that. [12:59] best thing about choqok .... it informs you that theres a new release of itself :P [13:00] lol [13:00] nigelb: i know, but indian mirror is now fast, it has push mirroring [13:00] jpds got a request from the server maintainer [13:03] !ninjas [13:03] Ninja Time! apachelogger, bulldog98, debfx, JontheEchidna, Lex79, maco, neversfelde, nhandler, Quintasan, rgreening, Riddell, ScottK, stalcup, txwikinger [13:03] 4.5.1 for lucid!!!! [13:04] apachelogger: It'd be good to go ahead and get it in queue for Maverick too. [13:04] ScottK: if someone fixes bindings [13:04] * ScottK looks at NCommander, then bindings meister in chief. [13:05] there is a patch already [13:05] but lex disappeared [13:06] uh oh, what broke? [13:07] NCommander: upstream not speaking cmake [13:07] HOLY GRAIL!!!! [13:07] the ubuntu wiki is freaking me out [13:07] why is it that all the shit we need to use is either slow, bugged or got no usibility whatsoever or all three of them [13:10] ScottK: the upload order does not matter anymore, does it? [13:10] apachelogger: No. I don't think so. [13:10] apachelogger: Also, it's going into unapproved, so it really doesn't matter. [13:10] *nod* [13:10] oh [13:10] new Qt [13:10] oh dear [13:10] that could take a while [13:10] :O [13:11] apachelogger: I vote new Qt after new KDE. [13:11] lex was supposed to return last week wasnt he? :P [13:11] what if there is ABI breakage? :S [13:11] then we need to rebuild KDE [13:11] i vote new qt and then new KDE [13:11] Then we'll find out. [13:11] well, but why would you want Qt after KDE? [13:12] Because Qt takes to long to build on the slow archs there's ~a day where we can't build KDE stuff at all on some archs [13:12] Between the time Qt finishes on i386 (and is published) and when it finishes (and is published) on the relevant arch. [13:13] give priority to qt* over gtk* ? :P [13:13] well then lets do it that way [13:13] * apachelogger moves shadeslayer to start on 451 for lucid [13:14] apachelogger: i already am working on choqok -> choqok for lucid -> kdepim beta 3 for maverick and lucid -> exams [13:14] add some rekonq in there somewhere too :P [13:15] shadeslayer: gtk is a legacy technology no longer much developed. I'm not sure people care about it much anymore. [13:15] ScottK: so gnome uses qt as well now? :D [13:15] Internal error in server [13:15] https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ppa/+files/meta-kde_63ubuntu5%7Eppa1.dsc [13:15] .... [13:15] ................... [13:15] * apachelogger takes a deep breath [13:15] apachelogger: yeah im getting that in lunchpad + kubuntu wiki [13:15] shadeslayer: Ask Gnome devs how they feel about the robustness of gtk development. [13:16] gnome has devs? :D [13:16] Apparently. [13:16] ScottK: apachelogger http://web.archive.org/web/20021108141525/http://www.illusionary.com/GNOMEvKDE.html [13:16] ehm [13:16] ohm [13:16] hum [13:16] in the name of the lord darth vader himself [13:17] OpenID transaction in progress [13:17] shadeslayer: As was already pointed out on kde promo, what Ubuntu ships really isn't much like Gnome at all. [13:17] launchpad in their openid craps can go and play foo [13:17] ScottK: kde promo? where? [13:17] apachelogger: I was having openid troubles earlier too, but it passed. [13:17] shadeslayer: kde promo mailing list. [13:18] oh i see.. will have to check it ;) [13:18] apachelogger: What is the error message that you get? I don't have permission to see that PPA, but it should work for you. [13:18] 4.5.1 is in maverick right? [13:18] or will be uploaded to maverick right? [13:18] wgrant: Internal error in server [13:18] https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ppa/+files/meta-kde_63ubuntu5%7Eppa1.dsc [13:19] Yes [13:19] that is it [13:19] no more than that [13:19] and that is coming from the browser actually [13:19] apachelogger: Can you produce a screenshot? [13:19] apachelogger: works for me now :) [13:19] That's a very odd message. [13:20] ScottK: What were the earlier OpenID troubles? [13:20] wgrant: http://aplg.kollide.net/images/avatar/snapshot6.png [13:20] (note, though, that the thing branded as the LP OpenID thing is not part of LP at all, but managed by Canonical ISD) [13:21] apachelogger: What if you visit that URL directly? [13:21] wgrant: what do you mean by directly? [13:21] apachelogger: Enter it in the address bar. [13:21] I click on the link, save-as-dialog pops up, I tell it where to save [13:21] Ah. [13:21] I see. [13:21] Another browser doesn't work? [13:22] then KDE tries to open a copy job for it which apparently fails [13:22] wgrant: let me install konqueror [13:22] * shadeslayer tries with chromium [13:22] The ibus packages the ubuntu ships with cause a memory leak in plasma-desktop at a rate of about 250KB/sec [13:23] There's a fix in the ibus ppa, but it seems fairly important to get these fixes out officially [13:23] hm [13:23] wgrant: it works in konqueror [13:23] man [13:23] -.- [13:23] apachelogger: Yeah, Chromium and Firefox too. [13:23] wgrant: what could be the reason? [13:23] wgrant: cookie missing? [13:24] apachelogger: A missing cookie would do it. [13:24] But I don't know how those bits of KDE work. [13:24] * shadeslayer runs in other direction [13:24] well, I blame rekonq [13:24] because the cookies are shared with konqueror [13:24] apachelogger: works in rekonq for me :P [13:24] and since opening the connection works with konqueror and not rekonq I could imagine where the problem is [13:25] apachelogger: http://imgur.com/oCpk0 [13:25] hello? [13:25] shadeslayer: save it [13:25] JohnFlux: yes we heard you :) [13:25] the file transfer fails [13:25] wgrant: I was logged out of LP today and when I tried to log in, it said the service was down. [13:25] not the save dialog [13:25] shadeslayer: so, now what? :-) [13:25] apachelogger: http://imgur.com/46OGa [13:26] ScottK: login.launchpad.net, or launchpad.net? [13:26] JohnFlux: youll need to file a bug report and then we can take it from there [13:26] shadeslayer: well [13:26] wgrant: I was logged out of LP and login.lp was down. [13:26] shadeslayer: where? [13:26] This was ~90 minutes ago. [13:26] ScottK: Aha. [13:26] ScottK: ENOTREALLYLP [13:27] JohnFlux: on launchpad of course, against ibus and mention that it affects kdebase [13:27] wgrant: The being logged out was really LP, right? [13:27] ScottK: Hm, possibly. [13:27] or hold on [13:27] apachelogger: ^ ibus issue [13:27] In any case, the normal level of service is such that I didn't consider it remarkable. [13:27] should the bug be filed against ibus or kdebase? [13:28] apachelogger, ScottK: So, feel free to complain about LP. But do so in a manner that can be noticed and handled usefully, please. [13:28] apachelogger: (and it's even better if it doesn't turn out to be a browser bug :P) [13:29] wgrant: If LP developers care (as a whole, not you) about how well their service worked, it would. They don't need me to tell them. [13:29] ScottK: Indeed. [13:31] wgrant: well ... broken client and broken service is a bit of an overkill for me :P [13:32] so [13:32] now that I have a working browser again [13:32] * apachelogger continues with 4.5.1 [13:33] shadeslayer: I found a bug there - it's been there for a month [13:33] JohnFlux: bug number please [13:33] ah right [13:33] shadeslayer: what is with ibus? [13:34] JohnFlux: ^ [13:35] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ibus/+bug/583954 [13:35] Launchpad bug 583954 in ibus (Ubuntu) "ibus-daemon applet leaks memory badly" [Undecided,New] [13:35] shadeslayer: ^ [13:35] JohnFlux: ill have a look after kdepim :) [13:35] gtk -> #ubuntu-desktop [13:36] apachelogger: also affects plasma-desktop [13:36] apparently.... [13:36] how is that? [13:36] shadeslayer: yeah I just spent the last 4 hours tracking it down from a plasma-desktop leak to ibuys [13:36] ibus [13:36] erm [13:36] hmm [13:36] JohnFlux: id say poke the guy who last uploaded ibus [13:37] I do not get it [13:37] what is leaking there [13:37] ibus [13:37] or the applet [13:37] or plasma [13:37] or gtk [13:37] or what? [13:37] how could it leak into plasma anyway? [13:38] ibus if i understand correctly [13:38] ibus, right [13:38] so the daemon itself is leaking? [13:38] apachelogger: or the ibus systray applet [13:38] apachelogger: I don't know how it appears in cause plasma-destop to leak [13:38] apachelogger: is there a script to file a FFe? [13:39] ScottK, Riddell: can one of you upload oxygen-icons ... with my connection it would take like half a day or so [13:39] but plasma-desktop has the systray, and the applet embeds into that [13:39] shadeslayer: not that I know of [13:39] also I could not imagine how such a script would work [13:39] * shadeslayer proceeds to file manually [13:39] apachelogger: Probably later today. [13:39] apachelogger: requestsync does have a FFe option [13:39] shadeslayer: anyway, please update the packages if you can [13:39] JohnFlux: the gtk applet? [13:40] apachelogger: yes [13:40] well, then do not use that :P [13:40] there is a perfectly fine plasmoid for ibus IIRC [13:40] JohnFlux: i cant really [13:40] !info plasma-widget-kimpanel-backend-ibus [13:40] plasma-widget-kimpanel-backend-ibus (source: kdeplasma-addons): addons for KDE 4 Plasma - universal input method widget. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.4.2-0ubuntu2 (lucid), package size 14 kB, installed size 96 kB [13:40] JohnFlux: ^ [13:41] shadeslayer: but the bug is 4 months old and has lots of people saying that it leaks - at what point do you update packages then? :-/ [13:41] shadeslayer: if the original guy was active he would have done it by now [13:41] Meh. This system is too old to boot to usb. [13:41] Need to burn an actual CD. [13:41] apachelogger: cool [13:42] ScottK: maybe a bios upgrade helps [13:42] cagibi uploaded [13:42] apachelogger: No. Circa 2006 Intel motherboard. [13:43] ScottK: 2006? that surely should have a bios upgrade for usb booting [13:43] I think it was out of support before such things were considered. [13:43] oh [13:43] ic [13:43] my 2006 asus board had usb booting out of the box IIRC === schmidtm_ is now known as schmidtm [13:46] freeflying: what do you make of bug 583954 ? [13:46] Launchpad bug 583954 in ibus (Ubuntu) "ibus-daemon applet leaks memory badly" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/583954 [13:47] Riddell also doesnt use vim ^^ [13:47] http://aplg.kollide.net/images/avatar/snapshot7.png [13:47] we vim uses know everything :P [13:48] stupid know-it-alls [13:48] lol [13:48] oh [13:48] there comes apport again [13:52] Riddell: apachelogger bug 628051 [13:52] Launchpad bug 628051 in choqok (Ubuntu) "FFe: Choqok choqok 0.9.90" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/628051 [13:53] uh oh [13:53] i didnt close the bug in changelog :/ [13:54] shadeslayer: is it suitable for backports too? [13:54] Riddell: for lucid? no [13:54] havent gotten around to backporting qoauth [13:54] ( thats next on my agenda ) [13:55] and is it final that it should go to backports? no SRU? [13:56] shadeslayer: Other way around. [13:56] ScottK: i dont understand ... [13:56]