[00:39] <DanaG> Argh, unity is completely broken for me.  As soon as I try to click anything, it hangs.... and then if I vt-switch away and back, the whole screen is blank white!
[00:39] <Volkodav> what do they plan for final kernel on the 16th ?
[00:42] <DanaG> UnknownMethodException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod: Unknown method: GetGroupProperties is not a valid method of interface org.ayatana.dbusmenu
[00:46] <DanaG> ERROR:dbus.connection:Unable to set arguments () according to signature u'vvvvv': <type 'exceptions.TypeError'>: More items found in D-Bus signature than in Python arguments
[00:46] <DanaG> That's me trying to d-feet (dbus debugger) dbusmenu.
[00:47] <DanaG> So not only does dbusmenu not work, it won't let you debug it to find out if that GetGroupProperties is really missing.
[01:00] <h00k> So, I keep having telepathy-butterfly crash on me, Empathy keeps respawning it, what's a good way to get a gdb backtrace on this?
[01:01] <h00k> Oh, hey, "Already running programs"
[01:01] <h00k> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Backtrace
[01:05] <h00k> Yeah, not sure that's going to work
[02:16] <brobinson_> does anyone know how to display japanese charaters in browsers on meerkat
[02:16] <brobinson_> ?
[03:19] <avi_> Is that PolicyKit bug fixed in the Beta?
[03:34] <switz_> Does anyone know whether the nvidia drover issue has been fixed in 10.10 yet?
[03:38] <bjsnider> it will not be fixed until the new 256.53 driver is uploaded tot he archive. that will happen soon probably
[03:55] <johnjohn101> when will nvidia be supported in 10.10?  I can't seem to get any driver to work
[03:55] <bjsnider> it will not be fixed until the new 256.53 driver is uploaded to the archive. that will happen soon probably
[03:56] <johnjohn101> within the next week or so?
[03:57] <johnjohn101> it's ok, i just miss my wobbly windows
[04:00] <bjsnider> within the next week certainly
[04:00] <johnjohn101> thanks...  I'm enjoying 10.10,  some crashes but otherwise ok
[04:04] <johnjohn101> so if I've downloaded all of Monday's updates am I close to the beta or will I have to wait until next week ( via upgrade)
[04:08] <avi_> Any reason I can't use Maverick Beta (when it's out) as my main OS? Any glaring issues with it?
[04:08] <bjsnider> the software is updated constantly. you will always have the latest packages if you do updates every few hours
[04:14] <johnjohn101> avi_: I'm not supporting ubuntu,  but if it's your personal and you're just messing around I'd say it's ok,  I wouldn't do it for any production or have to have machines
[04:15] <avi_> johnjohn101, Yeah, it's my personal machine. I'll probably wait for the RC/GM though.. It's not really worth the risk/hassle I don't think..
[04:16] <johnjohn101> i just upgraded my personal machine to 10.10.   it doesn't have nvidia, I had some problems with some apps crashing
[04:17] <johnjohn101> I love doing the upgrades throughout the development process.  beta  is much much more stable than alpha 3
[04:37] <johnjohn101> I was able to compile the lastest nvidia driver and it works with 10.10
[04:54] <edgy> Hi, I changed the resolution but every time I reboot my screen goes back to a default settings. why?
[05:04] <johnjohn101> edgy: what vid card are you using?
[05:04] <edgy> johnjohn101: ATI 5850
[05:06] <johnjohn101> do this  System -> Preferences -> Monitors  but say no to vendors tool
[05:06] <johnjohn101> and chose from there
[05:09] <edgy> johnjohn101: I am using kubuntu
[05:10] <edgy> johnjohn101: what's the command the launch the gnome version?
[05:11] <johnjohn101> gnome-display-properties
[05:23] <voss749> So whats been the experience so far with 10.10
[05:26] <S4ry> voss749, so far so good for me
[05:27] <S4ry> 10.10 is , lighter , fast  , stable ...
[05:31] <edgy> do fglrx works or not yet?
[05:42] <S4ry> edgy, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1520442
[05:42] <edgy> any one know how I label btrfs disk?
[05:43] <S4ry>  -L, --label name
[05:43] <S4ry>  , Specify a label for the filesystem.
[05:44] <S4ry> http://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org
[05:45] <edgy> S4ry: the problem is it's already created, I want to change it without removing data
[05:48] <edgy> S4ry: what comman you want me to pass -L to?
[05:48] <avi_> edgy, Can't gparted do that?
[05:48] <avi_> edgy, And that would be the mkfs command he's talking about,
[05:49] <edgy> avi_: no, gparted doesn't support btrfs, when the option is disabled
[05:49] <edgy> avi_: and mkfs would remove the data so what are my options?
[05:50] <avi_> edgy, Ah right. That's a toughie.. I'm not really sure about btrfs support.. It's not to be compatible fully with Ubuntu till Natty.. Might I ask what you've got a btrfs partition for?
[05:51] <avi_> because if it's mission-critical, you could always dd the partition and then mkfs and dd it back.
[05:51] <edgy> avi_: I just created my /home /backup partions in btrfs
[05:52] <avi_> hmm. So would it be possible to dd them?
[05:52] <avi_> Like I said, btrfs isn't supported in Maverick so it's probably best to stay away from btrfs entirely.
[05:52] <edgy> avi_: the problem is my /home and the backup partition is around 500G and I have no other drive to back it up
[05:52] <avi_> edgy, Yes that would be a problem :/
[05:53] <edgy> avi_: i heard its stable enough and would like to try it ;)
[05:53] <avi_> edgy, Well I honestly don't know how to go about helping you if that's the case.
[05:53] <avi_> edgy, Sorry :(
[05:53] <avi_> edgy, And yeah, it IS stable, but it's not *supported* yet.
[05:54] <avi_> edgy, Meaning most disk utilities won't support it, and iirc, you can't even grub directly to it..
[05:54] <edgy> avi_: np dear, I thought changing the label is very easy and google should return back a result easily but alas
[05:54] <avi_> edgy, You've gotta make some ext4 thing as a cover.
[05:54] <avi_> edgy, Yeah sure. Well I've gotta run. Good luck! :)
[05:54] <edgy> avi_: bye
[06:34] <DanaG> I've been using btrfs, and it's given me some kernel oopses sometimes.
[06:34] <DanaG> And even hard-locks on my btrfs usb stick, any time I tried a second time to mount (after an oops).
[06:37] <S4ry> DanaG, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/btrfs
[06:38] <DanaG> I do already have a backup system in place.
[06:39] <DanaG> So if Maverick btrfs dies, I boot Lucid from my HDD and restore SSD partition from backup.  Probably in ext4.
[06:42] <S4ry> DanaG, Okay.
[08:34] <Gumby> hi all.  Im looking to get vdpau working.  Is it just the restricted driver I need to enable or do I also need to install a vdpau specific driver?
[08:36] <S4ry> Mmm ,
[08:36] <S4ry> does it depends on witch software you will use for that
[08:37] <S4ry> You may also want to active your driver through ubuntu's restricted drivers
[08:38] <S4ry> I think mplayer may work
[08:38] <S4ry> And smplayer
[08:39] <Gumby> the restricted driver is enabled.
[08:40] <Gumby> I am trying to run mythfrontend
[08:40] <Gumby> and the error is "Failed to open VDPAU backend libvdpau_nvidia.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[08:42] <S4ry> the Drive is nvidia !
[08:45] <S4ry> it sounds like there's either a driver installation problem, libvdpau installation problem
[08:45] <S4ry> , or a packaging error
[08:45] <Gumby> I think I may have found the problem
[08:46] <Gumby> I chose an older nvidia driver from the restricted modules list
[08:46] <Gumby> will install and re-test
[08:46] <S4ry> Aha ,
[08:46] <S4ry> Okay.
[08:47] <S4ry> We must always active the 'Recommended Drive model'
[08:48] <S4ry> Should reboot too ..
[08:48] <Gumby> yes.  I got a bit confused there when setting up.
[08:48] <Gumby> normally I would
[08:48] <Gumby> not sure what I was thinking
[08:48] <S4ry> Ah , yeah
[08:48] <Gumby> or if I even was
[08:49] <S4ry> :) easy on yourself .. we all do miss up things
[08:49] <S4ry> Put your mind on free :D
[08:53] <Gumby> yep, that was the problem
[08:55] <S4ry> Yeah , it's always forgetting the simple things .. that whould take it to an issue or something
[11:16] <zetheroo1> is 10.10 going to have Gnome 3?
[11:17] <Sary> zetheroo1, not quite sure .. maybe in natty
[11:18] <Sary> Well , it looks like it wont
[11:18] <zetheroo1> yeah ... just got this link from someone
[11:18] <zetheroo1> http://techie-buzz.com/foss/ubuntu-10-10-will-not-have-gnome-shell.html
[11:19] <zetheroo1> that is great news
[11:37] <om26er> "Firefox will not make 10.10" what does that mean?
[11:38] <nigelb> om26er: meaning 4.0 will not make it
[11:39] <nigelb> maybe it needs updating
[11:40] <nigelb> jussi: can you add to the topic that "Firefox 4.0 will not make 10.10" instead of whats there?
[11:40] <jussi> lol
[11:40] <Sary> Whats up with that FF 4 hype :)
[11:41]  * nigelb hugs jussi :)
[11:41] <nigelb> jussi: thank you
[11:42] <jpds> jussi: I had no idea Firefox made releases happen.
[11:42] <nigelb> lol
[11:58] <sab0> i am almost new user in ubuntu linux,can any one please tell me how to setup skype from CLI
[11:58] <om26er> sab0, download skype from skype.com
[11:58] <sab0> om26er, then?
[11:59] <om26er> sab0, double click and it will be installed.
[11:59] <om26er> sab0, are you using 32-bit or 64-bit Ubuntu?
[12:00] <sab0> om26er, i mo not sure
[12:00] <sab0> om26er, can you please tell me how could i check my ubuntu version on my machine?
[12:00] <om26er> sab0, http://www.skype.com/intl/en-us/get-skype/on-your-computer/linux/
[12:02] <sab0> ok
[12:03] <sab0> i was also trying to apt-get update from cli but to download only 327.2MB it showing it will take 16 hours+,my internet connection is quite good then why its taking to much time?
[12:07] <om26er> sab0, skype installed?
[12:07] <sab0> om26er, not yet
[12:07] <sab0> om26er, please tell me after download how can i install it from cli
[12:08] <om26er> sab0, you dont need to install it from terminal. if you just double click it will open with the installer
[12:08] <om26er> sab0, if you are using Ubuntu 10.04 you can install skype from Softwar-Center
[12:09] <sab0> om26er, ok.I was just trying to lear
[12:09] <sab0> om26er, ok.I was just trying to learn...:)
[12:10] <S4ry> Cool
[12:11] <S4ry> You can also install it with a command line , sudo apt-get install skype
[12:11] <om26er> sab0, the place where you download skype. cd there from terminal and type sudo dpkg- i sky<tab>
[12:11] <sab0> om26er, ok
[12:11] <om26er> S4ry, in Lucid only :) its not in partners of Maverick yet I think
[12:12] <S4ry> Well , lemme check
[12:13] <S4ry> Wow
[12:13]  * om26er wishes for skype to support indicator-applet
[12:13] <Hew> anyone using UNE maverick know how to open file browser?
[12:13] <S4ry> E: Package 'skype' has no installation candidate
[12:13] <om26er> Hew, hm. open terminal and type nautilus and add it to the unity launcher
[12:14] <Hew> om26er, yea that's what I've been doing for every alpha/beta so far :S, I hope there's a high importance bug about this
[12:14] <nigelb> S4ry: enable parter repository from Software Sources
[12:15] <om26er> Hew, Ya dash only supports access to files. other files operations are a little difficult
[12:16] <S4ry> it's enable .. you mean the partner or the partner(Source Code ) ..
[12:16] <S4ry> enabled*
[12:17] <om26er> skype is not in Maverick Partners Yet: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/skype
[12:17] <Hew> well it displays a pretty layout of my empty home folder, but when the first thing I need to navigate to is /var/crash it's a real pain (especially when crashes are occurring while I'm trying to get there)
[12:18] <Hew> root (or "My Computer") should be an option under "Files and Folders"
[12:19] <S4ry> Guys , on Software sources .. does the murriane-daily/ppa partner(Source Code ) should be check!
[12:19] <S4ry> checked*
[12:20] <S4ry> i got this from the terminal output .. N: Ignoring file 'murrine-daily-ppa-maverick.list.save' in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension
[12:48] <Hew> om26er, do you know which package a bug should be filed against about this?
[12:51] <Hew> or anyone
[12:52] <nigelb> Hew: Places -> Computer?
[12:52] <nigelb> what more are you looking for?
[12:52] <nigelb> The bookmarks also should have a File System entry
[12:52] <Hew> nigelb, netbook edition
[12:53] <nigelb> Ah, sorry
[12:53] <Hew> np
[12:54] <yofel> S4ry: see bug 611925 for the .save files
[12:56] <S4ry> yofel, :) alright
[13:14] <JohnFlux> Hi all
[13:14] <JohnFlux> the ibus packages in 10.04  cause plasma-desktop to leak memory at a rate of about 250KB a minute.
[13:15] <JohnFlux> The ibus developers have fixed it, but ubuntu ships with the old packages
[13:17] <patdk-wk> hmm, I hadn't noticed that, and I do lots of ibus stuff
[13:17] <patdk-wk> but then I don't use plasma-desktop
[13:17] <patdk-wk> but this is the 10.10 channel anyways, and could care less about 10.04 :)
[13:18] <JohnFlux> patdk-wk: where do I talk to 10.04 developers?
[13:18] <patdk-wk> make a backport ticket on launchpad
[14:41] <JoshuaL> gwibber working for anyone else with twitter? :)
[14:44] <charlie-tca> JoshuaL: see this - http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/2116
[14:44] <JoshuaL> ty
[15:33] <Volkodav> hmm is google docs down or is it me ? can't upload anything for 2 days now
[17:34] <Volkodav> I have troubles with third-party repos lately - none of them seem to fetch and even when they work always get the message about in directory '/etc/apt/sources.list.d/' as it has an invalid filename extension
[17:34] <Volkodav> what's up with that ?
[17:35] <gnomefreak> Volkodav: we do not support 3rd party repos please see the authors of those repos
[17:36] <Volkodav> I mean they are all ppa repos
[17:36] <yofel> Volkodav: the messages are just apt being too verbose since recently
[17:36] <yofel> those file are created when the ppas are disabled on upgrade
[17:36] <Volkodav> ok I can ignore messages that';s fine
[17:37] <Volkodav> like .new or .old those I can remove/ignore
[17:38] <yofel> I'll look at it again, there's a setting to turn them off, but most users don't use the command line so it shouldn't be much of an issue
[17:38] <yofel> (there is about about them)
[17:38] <yofel> *is a bug
[17:39] <Volkodav> ppa's are disabled on each upgrade ?
[17:40] <gnomefreak> Volkodav: yes they are not official repos and can break things
[17:41] <gnomefreak> wouldnt the setting be in software sources menu
[17:51] <jpds> Volkodav: They should all end in .list I believe.
[17:51] <Volkodav> yes
[17:52] <yofel> jpds: yes, but disabled ppas have an empty .list file and the old .list file is saved as .list.save
[17:52] <yofel> (iirc)
[17:52]  * gnomefreak went through */sources.list and remove all # disabled.... update and everything works fine. mind you i have over 10 PPAs
[17:54] <yofel> right, but we're talking about files in sources.list.d
[17:55] <yofel> apt didn't complain before, but the new up is being uneccessary verbose :/
[17:55] <gnomefreak> i guess its a good thing i dont have any in there
[17:55] <gnomefreak> this was just upgraded on monday
[17:56] <gnomefreak> that would make 6 upgrades and 4 fresh installs and havent seen that issue ever
[17:58] <yofel> well of course, as that's new in apt 0.8
[17:58] <yofel> (or do you mean 6 upgrades to mav?)
[17:59]  * yofel handles all sources in sources.list too so I only saw that warning when I tried to reproduce an update-manager bug once ^^
[18:00] <kklimonda> disabling ppas on upgrade isn't really good enough - do we also downgrade all package to official versions before upgrading?
[18:01] <gnomefreak> kklimonda: no
[18:02] <gnomefreak> going from Lucid to Maverick it should only need to run up not down
[18:02] <kklimonda> I'd actually add something like /var/lib/warranty and first time user adds some PPA or 3rd party repository I'd delete this file ;)
[18:02] <kklimonda> and then I'd make it impossible to report bugs without this file or asking for help.. mmm.. a perfect world..
[18:03] <gnomefreak> problem alot of people have is they think PPAs are stable because they are from Ubuntu communilties and they are not stabole
[18:03] <yofel> haha, we already make sure apport doesn't report ppa bugs (can be overriden somehow I think though)
[18:04] <yofel> and now that ppa-purge is in the archive maybe we should work on embedding that into update-manager for natty
[18:05] <kklimonda> (removed CoC-violating comment about people as general)
[18:05] <gnomefreak> yofel: that was thought to be enabled at one point but hell you can file bugs on PPAs i just dont remember the link at least for mozilla team and apport should run *-collect and add the info. well did for gwibber and such
[18:05] <kklimonda> gnomefreak: heh, that's probably one of the problems - the other being that people want to run the latest and greatest
[18:06] <gnomefreak> kklimonda: yep and if you ant fix it or dont understand it DONT USE IT
[18:06] <gnomefreak> :) not you but people in general
[18:06] <yofel> gnomefreak: actually there are projects for mozilla or kde ppa's that are used for bug tracking, and iirc apport can be told to use those instead of ubuntu
[18:06] <kklimonda> the problem with PPAs is that there are PPAs created by Ubuntu developers and PPAs created by random people. Some of them may even be authors of software that is in PPA but they have no idea about packaging.
[18:07] <kklimonda> I still think we should have something like "Trusted PPA"
[18:08] <gnomefreak> if you cant fix it dont use it. If you dont understand it than dont use it. dont ev ery use it during devel cycle if the above apply
[18:08] <yofel> kklimonda: you might want to read the discussion about rejecting ubuntu-tweak in universe on the motu ML, they discussed preferring one ppa over others there too
[18:08] <gnomefreak> i trust my packaging. but like mozilla team daily PPa it is built by bots not people
[18:09] <kklimonda> gnomefreak: but some ppas like ~x-swat/x-updates or ~ubuntu-audio-dev/ppa are crucial for some users and the former is actually the only way of getting updated drivers on stable releases
[18:09] <gnomefreak> i have 5 or 6 PPAs that are not my personal that i can upload to :)
[18:09] <kklimonda> yofel: I did
[18:09] <gnomefreak> kklimonda: they can download the .debs ;)
[18:10] <gnomefreak> but can still break no matter how stable. you forget 1 depends and you can be in trouble
[18:10] <kklimonda> gnomefreak: but they are being tested by the same people that are responsible for X stack in ubuntu itself :)
[18:11]  * gnomefreak wonders if the sound one will fix my sound issue
[18:11] <gnomefreak> right
[18:11] <kklimonda> gnomefreak: or (in case of ~ubuntu-audio-dev) by people responsible for sound stack
[18:12] <yofel> IMHO ppa's aren't better or worse than -backports. As the only requisite for that is that it builds on the release it should be backported to
[18:12] <kklimonda> gnomefreak: and there are good reasons to use both of them - that's the second thing I recommend when people have problem with sound (first being installing linux-backports-modules-<release>-<kernel>_
[18:12] <kklimonda> yofel: -backports are done by MOTU, are limited only to "leaf packages" and are being tested for upgrades
[18:12] <yofel> ah
[18:13] <kklimonda> yofel: you can add some PPA with "elemental nautilus" and get a gazilion of libraries that either conflict now or later.
[18:13] <gnomefreak> if i dont know the people that upload to the PPAs and the userts wanting them it is unlikely that i will suggest them. the minute you get someone without a clue than you get blamed for giving it to them
[18:13] <yofel> right :/
[18:14] <gnomefreak> brb smoke than figure out googleearth-package.
[18:14]  * gnomefreak looking to not spend all day on packagin it if i can avoid it
[18:19] <gnomefreak> might be easier to grab for mediubuntu and customize it and add a PPA for it
[18:19] <gnomefreak> that is tomorrow during coffee i think
[19:32] <vish> hehe , i wonder why i read kklimonda mail to BC as "they just want to get their itch fixed"  ;p
[19:38] <tembrae> hello, can anyone help me with compiling screem? i get an error exit code saying GLIB version is incorrect but it says GLIB is wrong version. also its not in the repo, would the karmic one work? how would i add karmic repo?
[19:39] <tembrae> *it says GLIB package not found :)
[19:45] <antonpiatek> Anyone know how to install a maverick vserver on a debian box? upstart is causing it to fail
[20:23] <kklimonda> hmm.. ctrl+l to reply to list in Evo just broke o.O
[20:24] <kklimonda> hmm.. maybe because Evo doesn't recognize the message as originating from ML..
[21:00] <Sary> 'Sup Maverick
[22:03] <BUGabundo> bRoas
[22:06]  * guntbert tries to decipher that code ... in vain :)
[22:35] <bcurtiswx_> i have an issue with my comp that maybe people in here would be able to help with
[22:36] <guntbert> !ask
[22:36] <bcurtiswx_> im trying to install maverick alpha through CD rom.. i've verified the CD has burnt correctly (not a CD problem), but when attempting to load ubuntu, it gets to plymouth and the dots start going across when all the sudden my cd stops spinning and the dots stop moving
[22:37] <bcurtiswx_> guntbert, i was getting there, lots to type ;)
[22:37] <yofel> that sounds like X failing to start, or maybe it starts on vt8 but doesn't switch you there
[22:38] <bcurtiswx_> yofel, it freezes the entire computer, have to hard reboot
[22:38] <yofel> sysrq+k doesn't work?
[22:38] <bcurtiswx_> yofel, whats sysrq?
[22:39] <yofel> !sysrq
[22:39] <bcurtiswx_> i can try that, but any tips on debugging?
[22:39] <BUGabundo> wiki ?
[22:39] <BUGabundo> !xdebug
[22:39] <BUGabundo> !debugx
[22:39]  * bcurtiswx_ slaps BUGabundo with a large skyscarper
[22:39] <yofel> well, you could replace quiet splash in grub with --verbose, witch should make upstart show what it's doing when the system freezes
[22:39] <bcurtiswx_> skyscraper
[22:40] <bcurtiswx_> how do I access this from a live CD?
[22:40] <Daekdroom> I wish there was a Dichotomy variation of maverick's ambience..
[22:41] <yofel> good question, press left shift maybe? but I seriously don't know. anyone?
[22:41] <voidmage> will the oauthpocalypse fix for gwibber make it in 10.10?
[22:41] <bcurtiswx_> voidmage, yes, after beta tomorrow
[22:42] <voidmage> what about nvidia drivers 256.52 or 256.53?
[22:43] <bcurtiswx_> voidmage, that i do not know
[22:44] <yofel> 256.52 is available in the x-updates ppa and should be uploaded to the archive sometime after beta
[22:47] <bcurtiswx_> so nobody knows how to access grub menu from a live cd.. i'll have to give the shift key a try.. thx yofel
[22:48] <yofel> I haven't tried the *ubuntu* live disk since they changed the boot so I don't know sry
[22:48] <BUGabundo> no
[22:49] <BUGabundo> there's no grub in the live cd
[22:49] <BUGabundo> its just ubiquity
[22:49] <BUGabundo> grub is only on installed disked
[22:49] <bcurtiswx_> BUGabundo, so how would I disagnose my boot issues?
[22:49] <bcurtiswx_> from the liveCD
[22:50] <BUGabundo> hum?
[22:50] <BUGabundo> what !?
[22:50] <BUGabundo> from the live cds?
[22:50] <yofel> BUGabundo: how do you edit the kernel command line on the live dis
[22:50] <yofel> *disk
[22:50] <bcurtiswx_> yeah, look above for whats happening to me
[22:51] <yofel> exp. since the syslinux menu is hidden by default today
[22:51] <yofel> *esp.
[22:51]  * yofel is getting tired...
[22:51] <BUGabundo> yofel: F6
[22:51] <BUGabundo> advanced sub menu
[22:51] <BUGabundo> press ESC then, and edit at will
[22:51] <bcurtiswx_> so what would I edit?
[22:52]  * bcurtiswx_ is doing a network upgrade so has to wait about 40 more minutes to try
[22:52] <BUGabundo> no idei
[22:52] <BUGabundo> vesa?
[22:53] <bcurtiswx_> yofel, what TZ are you?
[22:53] <yofel> Europe/Berlin
[22:53] <yofel> meaning 12:53PM here ;)
[22:53] <bcurtiswx_> Ah, Germany
[22:53] <bcurtiswx_> you mean AM?
[22:54] <yofel> me being tired again... 11:53PM
[22:54] <bcurtiswx_> lol
[22:54] <bcurtiswx_> dinner time here in the states
[22:54] <yofel> (23:54)
[22:54] <bcurtiswx_> 17:54
[22:54] <bcurtiswx_> +02:00GMT ?
[22:54] <BUGabundo> 22:54
[22:55] <BUGabundo> gmt+1 here
[22:56] <yofel> right
[23:08] <charlie-tca> bcurtiswx_: will it boot to the live cd desktop
[23:08] <bcurtiswx_> charlie-tca, nope, this is all before
[23:09] <charlie-tca> hmm, much harder than. the beta is being tested for release tomorrow, it works better than the alpha did
[23:10] <charlie-tca> I think you can hit the shift key during the seconds the two symbols are at the bottom to access the menu
[23:11] <bcurtiswx_> OK, once my network upgrade is done i'll test that
[23:11] <bcurtiswx_> about 15-20 minutes left
[23:23] <brot> i am trying to bisect a bug in the kernel, and need to compile my own kernel packages to do so. running "make-kpkg --initrd --append-to-version=bisect1 kernel-image kernel-headers" for the vanilla kernel sources fails with: http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/398861/ . can someone tell me what i am doing wrong?
[23:25] <kklimonda> brot: you will have more luck if you ask in #ubuntu-kernel and use LC_ALL=C make-kpkg --initrd --append-to-version=bisect1 kernel-image kernel-headers so it's in English
[23:26] <brot> thanks for the informations kklimonda, i will try that.
[23:33] <bcurtiswx_> charlie-tca, OK, im in the menu after hitting shift.. where would I go here to try a verbose boot?
[23:35] <bcurtiswx_> found it
[23:37] <charlie-tca> hit F6, delete quiet splash from the end of the line that appears
[23:37] <bcurtiswx_> stdin: error 0
[23:39] <charlie-tca> and, if it fails, the /var/log/syslog should contain the errors
[23:40] <bcurtiswx_> charlie-tca, well it freezes.  so I can't go grab that
[23:41] <bcurtiswx_> im trying a pastebin.. and its not working.. LOL
[23:41] <Some_Person> How (un)stable is maverick at this stage?
[23:41] <bcurtiswx_> charlie-tca, http://paste.ubuntu.com/486991/
[23:42] <bcurtiswx_> i typed all that out... its frozen on my screen.. lol
[23:43] <bcurtiswx_> sysrq doesn't allow me to access the system
[23:44] <kklimonda> Some_Person: pretty stable but YMMV
[23:45] <Some_Person> Are intel graphics working for the new X server?
[23:45] <yofel> here yes, but I get some rendering issues with my 945GME and kwin compositing enabled
[23:46] <bcurtiswx_> hmm, it's trying to load btrfs, should i?
[23:48] <bcurtiswx_> should it*
[23:55] <bcurtiswx_> anyone know the differences between the netbook iso vs the desktop iso... because the netbook one is working fine so far
[23:59] <bcurtiswx_> is there a way I can start a wireless network up through command line?