hggdh | sbeattie: do we really need to have QRT-depends on sudo, lsb-release, ssl-certs, and openssl? | 00:09 |
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hggdh | at least sudo and lsb-release? | 00:09 |
hggdh | devildante: see if the references are indeed in the -dev | 00:10 |
devildante | hggdh: how do I do that? | 00:11 |
hggdh | devildante: did you run 'sudo apt-get builddep empathy'? | 00:11 |
hggdh | devildante: er... grep -R launchpad_integration_add_ui * | 00:12 |
hggdh | devildante: apt-get build-dep | 00:12 |
drew212_ | #ubuntu | 00:12 |
drew212_ | gah, i hate this web based IRC =X | 00:13 |
hggdh | drew212_: try weechat ;-) | 00:13 |
hggdh | oh, _web_ | 00:13 |
drew212_ | hggdh: yeah, i'm at school/work right now =P | 00:14 |
drew212_ | hggdh: i thought i would hop into chat in case one of my mentee's was online and had any questions... all i'm doing is HW right now. | 00:14 |
hggdh | heh | 00:15 |
hggdh | school/work? | 00:15 |
devildante | hggdh: yes, I ran build-dep | 00:15 |
drew212_ | hggdh: i work at school, i'm a computer lab assistant/supervisor | 00:16 |
hggdh | oh cool! | 00:16 |
hggdh | devildante: try the grep | 00:16 |
drew212_ | basically i sit at a terminal in the entryway to the lab and make sure nobody has drinks or food... | 00:16 |
hggdh | devildante: how did you grab the empathy source? | 00:16 |
devildante | hggdh: the grep doesn't spit anything (not even an error) | 00:17 |
hggdh | drew212_: oh. This is something I did not do while at school... | 00:17 |
drew212_ | hggdh: its pretty nice, $9 an hour to do my homework and triage bugs =) | 00:17 |
devildante | hggdh: bzr branch lp:ubuntu/empathy (I need to fix a bug introduced by a patch, it seems) | 00:17 |
hggdh | devildante: I never built empathy, so I am not sure you have the correct source | 00:18 |
devildante | hmm | 00:19 |
devildante | darn :p | 00:19 |
drew212_ | vish: how long do we wait to drop a mentee if no contact is made? | 00:24 |
hggdh | drew212_: wait some two/three weeks | 00:27 |
charlie-tca | hmm, I have to drop mine. One quit and one disappeared | 00:28 |
hggdh | heh. I think this seems to be the norm, not the exception, charlie-tca | 00:28 |
drew212_ | hggdh: yeah, I'm going to send him an email again at the end of this week just to make sure he got the last one. | 00:28 |
drew212_ | hggdh: that means i was an exception then? lol | 00:29 |
hggdh | drew212_: I would say a bit more than 50% | 00:29 |
drew212_ | hggdh: we should keep a running tally/list and document everything so we know how certain mentors are doing, and how the program is working, if its working at all | 00:30 |
charlie-tca | I win though. I got one half-trained before he dropped | 00:30 |
drew212_ | s/certain/well | 00:30 |
drew212_ | charlie-tca: my mentor went MIA, then i got accepted into bug-control and soon after became a mentor myself =P | 00:31 |
charlie-tca | yeah, that happens to, I guess | 00:32 |
drew212_ | charlie-tca: i doubt thats normal though... especially with someone so active in the community... i hope nothing bad happened =X | 00:33 |
hggdh | drew212_: we *do* keep looking at it | 00:35 |
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kermiac | is anyone else getting a few 'hit n runs' from this user? https://edge.launchpad.net/~muscovy | 12:45 |
nigelb | kermiac: 1137 bug karma isn't hit and run | 12:47 |
kermiac | hey nigelb... ok maybe it's not 'hit and run'. I'll just subscribe him to the bugs I noticed before I leave a comment | 12:50 |
nigelb | kermiac: Maybe he needs to be talked to, yes. | 12:50 |
kermiac | yeah, but it looks like he is trying to do the right thing :) | 12:51 |
nigelb | Yeah, his wiki page says he's trying to be part of bug control. | 12:51 |
kermiac | nigelb: ok, I'll send him a quick friendly note reminding him to subscribe to bug reports he comments on | 12:53 |
vish | kermiac: well, the easiest excuse people have for hit-n-run seeeeeeems to be that, they dint know they wouldnt be subscribed ;p | 12:53 |
kermiac | vish: yeah, i seem to remember that being discussed recently. I think it was in here | 12:53 |
* nigelb notes he made that mistake a few times. | 12:53 | |
vish | its one of micahg's bugs! i think he had filed it.. :) | 12:54 |
vish | the auto-subscribe commenters.. | 12:54 |
nigelb | first fix unsubscribing because you're subscribed to the package :p | 12:55 |
vish | hehe! | 12:55 |
yofel | fix both! (I don't care which one first...) | 12:55 |
nigelb | lol | 12:55 |
yofel | :P | 12:55 |
nigelb | I still get mails from old rhytmbox bugs! | 12:56 |
vish | no, i would rather prefer the subscribe commenter.. a lot of time i would comment to only realize the person i was answering to was not subscribed ;/ | 12:56 |
nigelb | true | 12:56 |
yofel | +1 | 12:56 |
nigelb | the coming from google and subscribing thing must irritate the hell out of kernel team | 12:56 |
nigelb | not sure how they deal with it | 12:56 |
nigelb | s/subscribing/commenting | 12:56 |
vish | then i sit and think! should i comment that again ! or do i hooooooope that after being subscribed that person replies back :( | 12:57 |
kermiac | vish: yeah, I've done that too | 12:57 |
kermiac | most of the time i just subscribe them when i realise they aren't subscribed & hope they look at the bug when they receive the 'you've been subscribed to a bug' email | 12:58 |
vish | yeah, thats a new feature though ;) | 12:59 |
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^arky^ | Is there bug related to NetworkManager set preferred networks option ? | 15:42 |
charlie-tca | bug 627902 ? | 15:46 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 627902 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "The list of available networks is blank (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 14)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/627902 | 15:46 |
ta_bu_shi_da_yu | so if I wanted to move a bug forward, how would I go about it? | 16:33 |
ta_bu_shi_da_yu | as in - I know what line of code is causing the problem, and I have a proposed fix | 16:33 |
nisshh | ta_bu_shi_da_yu: have you submitted a patch for the bug (link to the bug, please?) | 16:37 |
ta_bu_shi_da_yu | not yet... just putting this together now | 16:39 |
nisshh | ta_bu_shi_da_yu: ok, well, do that, then ill have a look if you tell me the bug number | 16:39 |
ta_bu_shi_da_yu | ummmm... actually, just looking at it again while trying to generate the patch | 16:40 |
ta_bu_shi_da_yu | not the issue I thought it was | 16:40 |
ta_bu_shi_da_yu | but at least I know the general reason | 16:41 |
ta_bu_shi_da_yu | bug 186366 | 16:41 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 186366 in cpio (Ubuntu) "cpio segfaults with "-E" on a non-existing file (heat: 2)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186366 | 16:41 |
nisshh | ah ok | 16:41 |
ta_bu_shi_da_yu | back to the drawing board :( | 16:45 |
hggdh | ta_bu_shi_da_yu: so you reported it to upstream? | 16:45 |
ta_bu_shi_da_yu | tried to... | 16:45 |
ta_bu_shi_da_yu | not sure if it happened or not, I sent an email to bug-cpio@gnu.org | 16:46 |
ta_bu_shi_da_yu | dunno if it got filed | 16:46 |
hggdh | ta_bu_shi_da_yu: I will check | 16:47 |
ta_bu_shi_da_yu | thanx | 16:48 |
ta_bu_shi_da_yu | my suggestion is bogus, btw | 16:48 |
hggdh | ta_bu_shi_da_yu: I found this already reported there -- https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?28954 | 16:49 |
hggdh | I will link it in | 16:49 |
ta_bu_shi_da_yu | thanks :-) | 16:49 |
hggdh | done | 16:50 |
ta_bu_shi_da_yu | ah! | 16:50 |
ta_bu_shi_da_yu | I know what it is now! | 16:50 |
ta_bu_shi_da_yu | that shouldn't be open_error that it's calling | 16:51 |
ta_bu_shi_da_yu | it should be open_fatal!!! | 16:51 |
ta_bu_shi_da_yu | er... how do I update a bug on savannah.gnu.org? | 16:51 |
drizzle | is there a way to tell whether or not a fix has been released or commited? | 16:52 |
hggdh | ta_bu_shi_da_yu: you register in, first; then you log in... then you update it | 16:52 |
ta_bu_shi_da_yu | :-) | 16:52 |
ta_bu_shi_da_yu | just did that | 16:52 |
hggdh | drizzle: ultimately only by looking at the changelog and the code | 16:53 |
drizzle | where does one look at that hggdh | 16:54 |
nigelb | drizzle: code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches is one place where you can look at both. | 16:56 |
nigelb | Also, packages.ubuntu.com if you're only intersted in changelog | 16:56 |
drizzle | thank you brotha | 16:58 |
dyfet | I think bug #622545 should be marked invalid | 17:02 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 622545 in anki (Ubuntu) "lacks 64-bit build (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/622545 | 17:02 |
jibel | drizzle, did you test that bug 616879 is fixed in lucid ? | 17:04 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 616879 in openoffice.org (Ubuntu Lucid) (and 1 other project) "Open Office splash screen's progress bar obscures the text (affects: 3) (heat: 18)" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/616879 | 17:04 |
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drizzle | no | 17:06 |
drizzle | i want to update my comment | 17:06 |
drizzle | but i cant find it | 17:06 |
drizzle | how to update it | 17:06 |
drizzle | i only tested it in 64 bit mav | 17:06 |
jibel | drizzle, you cannot modify comments, you can just add one. but well, it's already fixed in maverick and are looking for testers in lucid. | 17:08 |
ta_bu_shi_da_yu | hggdh, turns out the Fedora guys have a patch already | 17:10 |
ta_bu_shi_da_yu | it's actually better than mine :-) | 17:10 |
hggdh | ta_bu_shi_da_yu: yes, Ondrej did it (so it is probably correct ;-) | 17:10 |
ta_bu_shi_da_yu | dunno who he is, but his idea was certainly on the money :-) | 17:11 |
hggdh | I know who he is... | 17:11 |
ta_bu_shi_da_yu | someone expert in Redhat? Am I right? | 17:11 |
hggdh | and I can assure you: he is *much* better than I am | 17:11 |
hggdh | and yes, I think he is at RedHat | 17:11 |
ta_bu_shi_da_yu | well, he's better than me, for sure :-) | 17:12 |
ta_bu_shi_da_yu | I was just trying to work out how to debug segfaults | 17:12 |
ta_bu_shi_da_yu | it was an interesting exercise | 17:12 |
hggdh | well, this would be a nice exercise on that, certainly | 17:12 |
drosenbe | heh, welcome to crash analysis :) | 17:12 |
ta_bu_shi_da_yu | thanx... so far have worked out where two crashes have occured | 17:12 |
ta_bu_shi_da_yu | the other one was in sqlite3 | 17:12 |
drosenbe | it's even more tedious when you're causing the crashes on purpose | 17:13 |
ta_bu_shi_da_yu | lol! | 17:13 |
hggdh | keep on, man, keep on :-) | 17:13 |
ta_bu_shi_da_yu | I've learned an unbelievable amount of stuff so far | 17:13 |
ta_bu_shi_da_yu | I just look for segfaults in Launchpad and see if I can repro them | 17:14 |
ta_bu_shi_da_yu | then I poke around | 17:14 |
drosenbe | how's your asm doing? | 17:14 |
ta_bu_shi_da_yu | terrible :-( | 17:14 |
drosenbe | there's the holdup then :) | 17:14 |
ta_bu_shi_da_yu | lol x2! | 17:14 |
drosenbe | it makes crash analysis much easier | 17:14 |
ta_bu_shi_da_yu | yeah, I read the art of assembly, which was cool | 17:14 |
ta_bu_shi_da_yu | but I forgot it all | 17:15 |
drosenbe | although you can always re-compile with symbols | 17:15 |
ta_bu_shi_da_yu | that's basically what I do | 17:15 |
ta_bu_shi_da_yu | but... uh... try doing that on OpenOffice.org | 17:15 |
drosenbe | funny you should say that ;) | 17:15 |
ta_bu_shi_da_yu | that's when I learned about ddebs... | 17:15 |
ta_bu_shi_da_yu | :-) | 17:15 |
ta_bu_shi_da_yu | bloody life saver!!!!! | 17:16 |
drosenbe | i just finished a round of fuzz testing on OOo | 17:16 |
drosenbe | it was painful | 17:16 |
ta_bu_shi_da_yu | fuzz testing? | 17:16 |
hggdh | and, hopefully, also learned that apport-retrace can auto-install all needed ddebs... | 17:16 |
ta_bu_shi_da_yu | yah - absolutely :-) | 17:16 |
ta_bu_shi_da_yu | damn cool stuff | 17:16 |
drosenbe | ta_bu_shi_da_yu: basically, running a program repeatedly on deliberately malformed input to try to produce crashes, and then analyzing those crashes to check for exploitable conditions | 17:16 |
drosenbe | i do security testing | 17:17 |
ta_bu_shi_da_yu | ah... :-) | 17:17 |
ta_bu_shi_da_yu | funnily enough, I work for a software company that deals with Windows only | 17:17 |
bcurtiswx | ta_bu_shi_da_yu, you have the record for most underscores used in a username.. congrats... | 17:17 |
drosenbe | haha | 17:18 |
ta_bu_shi_da_yu | bcurtiswx, yeah, I can switch the nick if it annoys | 17:18 |
drosenbe | tab completion ftw | 17:18 |
ta_bu_shi_da_yu | lol! | 17:18 |
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tbsdy_lives | switched | 17:18 |
tbsdy_lives | I have to say, it's far more fun and interesting to troubleshoot an Ubuntu problem than a Windows one | 17:19 |
drosenbe | yeah, it's great what open source gives you in terms of transparency | 17:20 |
bcurtiswx | windows makes my grandmother look fast... | 17:20 |
tbsdy_lives | access to source code, for one :-) but I find that I actually like their perfmon tool | 17:20 |
tbsdy_lives | dunno if Linux has an equivalent | 17:21 |
drosenbe | top? | 17:21 |
tbsdy_lives | nah, top doesn't record the sort of counters that perfmon does | 17:21 |
tbsdy_lives | I'm sure there's something | 17:21 |
tbsdy_lives | Solaris has something and has it for a while, apparently | 17:22 |
drosenbe | i'm sure, there are lots of system monitoring tools | 17:22 |
tbsdy_lives | drosenbe, do you know if Linux has an equivalent to dtrace? | 17:22 |
drosenbe | strace | 17:23 |
drosenbe | if you're looking for system call tracing | 17:23 |
drosenbe | ltrace is for library calls | 17:23 |
drosenbe | strace is in binutils i believe | 17:23 |
drosenbe | nope, wrong | 17:24 |
drosenbe | it's in its own package | 17:24 |
yofel | there's also valgrind for a more intesive analyses (memory allocation, function calls, ...) | 17:24 |
drosenbe | definitely, i <3 valgrind | 17:24 |
tbsdy_lives | interesting... I'm still very much a newbie on all this stuff | 17:24 |
hggdh | sudo apt-get install apt-file; apt-file search $(whereis strace) | 17:24 |
tbsdy_lives | I've used strace, but don't think it's quite the equivalent to dtrace | 17:25 |
yofel | hggdh: you forgot the apt-file update :P - sudo apt-get install apt-file && sudo apt-file update && sudo apt-file search $(whereis strace) | 17:26 |
hggdh | yofel: I thought it did an auto update on install... | 17:26 |
tbsdy_lives | anyway, it's been fun folks :-) but it's about 2:30AM in my neck of the woods, so gotta go | 17:27 |
tbsdy_lives | night all! | 17:27 |
yofel | hggdh: hm, maybe now, didn't when I installed it last time | 17:27 |
* hggdh does not really know, just expected the obvious | 17:27 | |
* yofel wants contents.gz for ppas :'( | 17:34 | |
hggdh | that would be nice, yes | 17:41 |
yofel | hggdh: and yourself to bug 335161 | 17:53 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 335161 in soyuz "PPAs should export Contents-amd64.gz files (affects: 4)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/335161 | 17:53 |
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hggdh | yofel: done | 18:19 |
yofel | thx :) | 18:19 |
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devildante | bdmurray: around? | 19:23 |
bdmurray | devildante: yep | 19:24 |
devildante | bdmurray: why do you assign bugs to software-center, even though there are storage related? | 19:27 |
bdmurray | devildante: could you give me an example? | 19:28 |
bdmurray | devildante: so if it is bug 575617 I'm working on an automated script to look at no package bugs and that was reported by apport and the sourcepackage was software-center | 19:33 |
rsajdok | Hi, I have some questions about this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gogoc/+bug/622705 On the site http://packages.qa.debian.org/g/gogoc.html I can see "ubuntu 1 bug" Does it mean that bug was sent to upstream? Should I change the status to 'Triaged'? Should I add tag 'patch-forwarded-upstream' ? | 19:33 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 575617 in ubuntu "ERROR CDF2-6BE2 7.9 GB FLASH CAN NOT OPEN (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/575617 | 19:33 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 622705 in gogoc (Ubuntu) "wrong references in README.Debian to "gw6" (affects: 1) (heat: 497)" [Undecided,New] | 19:33 |
devildante | bdmurray: yes it was that one and bug 627480 | 19:36 |
ubot2 | Launchpad bug 627480 in linux (Ubuntu) "vfat file time incorrect on usb stick (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/627480 | 19:36 |
devildante | rsajdok: no, it's just that debian can track the number of bugs that an Ubuntu package have | 19:38 |
devildante | rsajdok: so you should forward the bug upstream | 19:38 |
rsajdok | devildante: thanks | 19:40 |
devildante | rsajdok: np, you're welcome! | 19:40 |
devildante | bdmurray: so with your scripts, we could possibly bring down the number of no package bugs to 0? | 19:41 |
devildante | if so, that's awesome! | 19:41 |
bdmurray | devildante: well, that's a bit optimistic but it might help | 19:42 |
devildante | bdmurray, shouldn't you try in staging lp? | 19:43 |
bdmurray | devildante: well, I think the script was doing the right thing and the reporter did the wrong thing. ;-) | 19:45 |
devildante | bdmurray, yeah :p | 19:45 |
devildante | bdmurray, this should help a lot :) | 19:45 |
* devildante will be afk for a while | 19:46 | |
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hggdh | QA meeting starting in 1 minute at #ubuntu-quality | 19:59 |
yofel | does anyone know https://edge.launchpad.net/~alex-harkema ? he's the one that added the no-redirect link at the top of the ReportingBugs page | 20:02 |
charlie-tca | Is he the same one arguing about it on the mailing list | 20:02 |
yofel | no, David Thombs was the one that started the discussion | 20:04 |
yofel | *David Tombs | 20:04 |
micahg | bdmurray: why are you reassigning random bugs to firefox? | 20:22 |
pedro_ | because we're going to assign all the bugs to you now? | 20:24 |
* pedro_ runs | 20:24 | |
* micahg starts throwing the bugs after pedro_ :) | 20:24 | |
thekorn_ | haha, this reminds me... micahg, what's the state of python xpcom ;) | 20:25 |
* thekorn_ tries to find the bug | 20:26 | |
micahg | thekorn: I don't know if we can take it, it's in unstable now, but we're not sure if we can support it | 20:26 |
micahg | chrisccoulson: ^^ anything to add? | 20:27 |
chrisccoulson | i don't think we'll be supporting it in maverick - it's not really supportable in its current form | 20:27 |
chrisccoulson | and with the transition to xulrunner-2.0 next cycle, it's probably just going to disappear again anyway | 20:28 |
chrisccoulson | heh, i just noticed the random bugs being assigned to firefox too | 20:28 |
thekorn_ | okidoki, thanks guys | 20:29 |
* micahg thinks a bdmurray bot is running amuck | 20:29 | |
bdmurray | micahg: it has stopped and the criteria was no package bug with the tag apport-bug and only comments from the reporter assign to the package listed in the apport content | 20:30 |
micahg | bdmurray: that's a bad script, since people commonly choose the wrong package and it gets removed with a needs-reassignment tag (or no tag) | 20:30 |
hggdh | !seen kangoroo | 20:31 |
ubot2 | I have no seen command | 20:31 |
hggdh | oh, this is not gnome ;-) | 20:31 |
bdmurray | micahg: it also checks for needs-reassignment so it should be less bad | 20:33 |
micahg | bdmurray: so only w/out the tag? | 20:33 |
bdmurray | micahg: the criteria was a no package bug with the tag apport-bug without the tag needs-reassignment and only comments from the reporter assign to the package listed in the apport content | 20:34 |
chrisccoulson | hopefully we should get less random bugs assigned to firefox now the apport menu entry has gone | 20:34 |
micahg | bdmurray: ah, ok | 20:34 |
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BUGabundo | bRoas | 22:03 |
kamusin | question: MootBoot-UK is saving irc logs? | 22:04 |
hggdh | kamusin: yes | 22:25 |
hggdh | for *some* channels | 22:25 |
kamusin | ohh would be nice if we can save history of ubuntu-quality channel :) | 22:30 |
charlie-tca | ogging for non-LoCo channels is done by ubuntulog, which is controlled by Canonical. Email rt at ubuntu dot com. | 22:34 |
charlie-tca | hmm, ogging is really logging | 22:35 |
hggdh | !info lighttpd | 22:58 |
ubot2 | hggdh: lighttpd (source: lighttpd): A fast webserver with minimal memory footprint. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.26-1.1ubuntu3 (lucid), package size 278 kB, installed size 956 kB | 22:58 |
hggdh | !info lighttpd maverick | 22:58 |
ubot2 | hggdh: lighttpd (source: lighttpd): A fast webserver with minimal memory footprint. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.26-3ubuntu1 (maverick), package size 278 kB, installed size 976 kB | 22:58 |
yofel | erm... that's wrong, maverick has 1.4.26-3ubuntu2 | 22:59 |
kamusin | aham.. thanks charlie-tca | 23:08 |
charlie-tca | You are welcome | 23:08 |
hggdh | sbeattie: apache was not installed | 23:21 |
sbeattie | hggdh: then, no, test-lighttpd.py is not expected to fail. | 23:24 |
* sbeattie digs in to see what's going on. | 23:24 | |
hggdh | sbeattie: failed both under checkbox and running alone | 23:24 |
sbeattie | hggdh: yeah, I think it's cuz some jerk tried to make it easier to setup test apache ssl environments. | 23:25 |
sbeattie | I thought I'd tested lighttpd after making my changes but apparently not. | 23:26 |
hggdh | sbeattie: I am happy :-) | 23:26 |
hggdh | I did not screw up ;-) | 23:26 |
hggdh | sbeattie: freeradius is still kaput, no? | 23:27 |
sbeattie | hggdh: I'm unaware of anything having been done with it. | 23:35 |
hggdh | sbeattie: K. I will try it on Maverick | 23:41 |
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